| 00:11:35 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 00:58:04 | fdgs | weee |
| 00:58:13 | fdgs | ?? |
| 00:58:16 | fdgs | fdgs??? |
| 00:58:41 | Zig | gah |
| 00:58:45 | Zig | BZig wont log off |
| 01:00:11 | Zig | heh, there he goes |
| 01:23:49 | blair | sup |
| 01:24:20 | captain_proton | noooooooom |
| 01:24:25 | captain_proton | i require your mad web page skillz |
| 01:24:40 | blair | i drop mad webstyle |
| 01:24:52 | blair | just checking out /new now... |
| 01:25:06 | captain_proton | i want to make a page lobbying for the faith-based missile defense system |
| 01:25:36 | blair | wtf is a faith-based missile defense system, like god launches your missiles for you? |
| 01:25:45 | captain_proton | god protects us from missiles |
| 01:26:01 | blair | i see. your government is pursuing this programme? |
| 01:26:06 | captain_proton | no, but they should be |
| 01:26:22 | captain_proton | right now they're spending billions of dollars on some technical solution |
| 01:26:33 | captain_proton | but if they just were to remember that god loves america more than any other nation, they'd be set |
| 01:26:37 | blair | oh, you want them to divert it to the church then? |
| 01:27:17 | blair | i say we do a "technical mumbo jumbo star wars vs. faith based" demo |
| 01:27:30 | blair | like have that screensaver of the game from the 80s |
| 01:27:40 | blair | ya know, the one the kid plays on "terminator 2" |
| 01:27:50 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:27:55 | blair | then we have gods face appear out of nowhere and kick ass |
| 01:28:26 | blair | sound good? |
| 01:28:57 | captain_proton | yes, its got potential... |
| 01:29:56 | blair | i wonder... |
| 01:30:14 | blair | you guys actually typed up some docs for flag networking... |
| 01:30:32 | captain_proton | here's the brilliance of this plan: the government leaders who claim to believe in god MUST support us! |
| 01:30:56 | captain_proton | because if they say 'thats the biggest load of tripe i've ever seen,' they're proving that they in fact DO NOT believe in god! |
| 01:30:58 | blair | that is true. especially true if god loves you more than he loves us... |
| 01:31:15 | blair | of course, that kinda goes against that impartial and perfect god idea... |
| 01:31:40 | blair | faithbasedmissiledefense.org? |
| 01:31:55 | captain_proton | checks to see if its available |
| 01:33:01 | captain_proton | woohoo |
| 01:33:02 | captain_proton | it is |
| 01:33:27 | captain_proton | and apparently 'efaithbasedmissiledefense' is open too |
| 01:34:41 | blair | ok, lets get it |
| 01:34:53 | blair | i gots ta go to me x-gf's place for a movie |
| 01:35:07 | blair | but we will figure this out later |
| 01:35:15 | captain_proton | you're leaving me? |
| 01:35:22 | captain_proton | i knew you didn't love me! |
| 01:35:24 | captain_proton | pouts |
| 01:35:29 | blair | proton: check out appletviewer http://24.69.64.70/~blair/java/blab.html |
| 01:35:41 | blair | i still love your proton |
| 01:35:55 | blair | i'm trying to do a java desktop site... |
| 01:36:18 | blair | hold on, i may have taken it down... |
| 01:36:29 | blair | bah, later when i get it finished i'll show it to ya... |
| 01:36:41 | blair | maybe we should have some animation for it tho? |
| 01:36:56 | captain_proton | hmm, possibly |
| 01:37:06 | captain_proton | maybe have both a flash version and a normal html one |
| 01:38:23 | blair | can i create flash with linux? |
| 01:38:46 | captain_proton | not really |
| 01:38:52 | captain_proton | php can create stuff on-the-fly |
| 01:39:26 | blair | really... |
| 01:39:30 | blair | anyway, i'm out |
| 01:39:40 | blair | later prot, btw, hows /dev/coffee? |
| 01:40:09 | blair | bzflag client/client is hard real-time... |
| 01:40:13 | captain_proton | yo |
| 01:40:18 | captain_proton | said anything since my php comment? |
| 01:40:37 | blair | yeah, php can suck my rather large and sometimes embarassing dang. |
| 02:10:16 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: where ya been>? |
| 02:10:41 | Patlabor221 | helping a frend move house |
| 02:10:50 | Patlabor221 | there is masive soreness now |
| 02:11:08 | Patlabor221 | but I did get a new keyboard while i was out there :) |
| 02:11:11 | captain_proton | fun |
| 02:12:04 | Patlabor221 | no not realy |
| 02:12:28 | fontenot | sometimes I have linux |
| 02:13:09 | fontenot | HATE |
| 02:13:19 | doughecka | 123456879 |
| 02:13:46 | captain_proton | 01234 |
| 02:14:01 | doughecka | 987654321 |
| 02:15:41 | captain_proton | goes off to drink a big glass of salt water |
| 02:15:46 | fontenot | HATE HATE HATE |
| 02:16:14 | Patlabor221 | and why is this? |
| 02:17:10 | fontenot | because the stable kernel isn't |
| 02:17:19 | fontenot | they keep changing gigantic things |
| 02:17:22 | fontenot | like VM |
| 02:17:22 | sussudio | whine whine |
| 02:17:23 | fontenot | and IDE |
| 02:17:27 | fontenot | ? |
| 02:17:33 | fontenot | you think I dont have a valid complaint? |
| 02:17:37 | sussudio | nope. |
| 02:17:38 | fontenot | please enlighten me |
| 02:17:49 | sussudio | you're just being a sunday whiner |
| 02:18:02 | sussudio | i've never had problems with 2.2.20 or 2.4.18 |
| 02:18:16 | fontenot | your point being? |
| 02:18:25 | sussudio | i think i made my point |
| 02:18:39 | fontenot | no, you have not |
| 02:18:53 | sussudio | oh wait. you're a troll. |
| 02:19:27 | fontenot | uh, no |
| 02:19:29 | sussudio | boooring. |
| 02:19:41 | fontenot | asshole |
| 02:19:47 | Patlabor221 | if you don't like it why do you use it? |
| 02:22:02 | fontenot | oh great, another illogical person |
| 02:22:35 | Patlabor221 | just curious |
| 02:22:59 | fontenot | i never said I dont like it |
| 02:23:03 | fontenot | i said sometimes I hate it |
| 02:23:12 | fontenot | I have specific problems |
| 02:23:15 | Patlabor221 | ahhh the love hate thing |
| 02:23:23 | fontenot | which should not be happening in the stable kernel |
| 02:23:27 | Patlabor221 | I do think they change stuff to much too |
| 02:23:39 | Patlabor221 | and noone can agree on a consistent interface |
| 02:23:39 | fontenot | I would no tbe complaining if this was happening with 2.5 |
| 02:23:59 | fontenot | now IDE is fucked up |
| 02:24:11 | fontenot | and in 2.4.20-pre3 my machine wont even boot |
| 02:24:24 | fontenot | severl as in at least 5 ppl have posted exact problem on l-k and nobody has responded |
| 02:24:55 | fontenot | i was using 2.4.19-rc1 but decided to jump to latest -pre because they screwed up 2.4.19 badly from what I hear |
| 02:25:13 | fontenot | I needed to update to see if my highpoint controller problems were driver related |
| 02:25:54 | fontenot | I cant really go backward to 2.4.18 because my southbridge is no supported |
| 02:26:27 | Patlabor221 | rock[you]hardplace |
| 02:26:33 | captain_proton | fontenot: hmm, they haven't changed the VM since 2.4.7 |
| 02:27:18 | Patlabor221 | loves the fact that he can now hit a single button on the keyboard and get to the next song |
| 02:27:50 | captain_proton | hmm, i've got buttons like those |
| 02:28:00 | fontenot | captain_proton: the VM was just an example of gigantic things they have changed in 2.4 series |
| 02:28:03 | captain_proton | i should write a little proggie that plays music and uses them |
| 02:28:11 | fontenot | now they are reorganizing the IDE code |
| 02:28:22 | captain_proton | hmm, i haven't had any problems with 2.4.19 |
| 02:28:26 | Patlabor221 | ohhh and one that brings up the calualator right next to the numeric pad :) |
| 02:28:46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you have a new panel manager for me? :) |
| 02:28:52 | fontenot | well my IDE problem might only be for ppl with the highpoint 372 ide controller |
| 02:28:54 | Patlabor221 | not done yet |
| 02:29:02 | Patlabor221 | what was I gonna do on it today? |
| 02:29:18 | fontenot | but my non-boot problem with -pre3 is definitely not just me |
| 02:29:56 | Patlabor221 | uggg I hope my fingers work |
| 02:30:08 | Patlabor221 | I moved stuff fromf 10 to 6 |
| 02:30:12 | captain_proton | is now coherent enough to really work on code |
| 02:30:20 | Patlabor221 | is not |
| 02:32:58 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah the pannel iterator |
| 02:33:12 | captain_proton | panel iterator? |
| 02:33:35 | Patlabor221 | yeah get the panel count |
| 02:33:52 | Patlabor221 | and methods to get the panel objects |
| 02:34:02 | Patlabor221 | ether by ID or name |
| 02:34:18 | Patlabor221 | there done |
| 02:36:55 | fontenot | hm -pre2 is also screwed in same way on my ide controller |
| 02:36:57 | Patlabor221 | and now each panel knows it's name |
| 02:37:34 | Patlabor221 | and I spelled panel right :) |
| 02:38:10 | captain_proton | yay |
| 02:38:34 | captain_proton | hmm, my face looks almost normal |
| 02:39:09 | Patlabor221 | hmmm does that find func work on maps? |
| 02:39:19 | Patlabor221 | I want to get the Nth thing in a map |
| 02:39:47 | captain_proton | hmm, map has its own find() function |
| 02:39:59 | Patlabor221 | yeah but I dopn't have they key |
| 02:40:27 | Patlabor221 | in fact I am trying to get all the keys |
| 02:40:32 | captain_proton | gets out the stl web site |
| 02:40:47 | Patlabor221 | hits F1 |
| 02:41:57 | captain_proton | use begin() and end() |
| 02:42:03 | captain_proton | the key is iterator->first |
| 02:42:10 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:42:24 | Patlabor221 | but I don't want to itertate throuh all of them |
| 02:42:33 | Patlabor221 | I want to get an iterator to the nth one |
| 02:43:43 | captain_proton | i don't think there's really a concept of 'nth' |
| 02:43:49 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:43:54 | Patlabor221 | but you can iterate through them |
| 02:44:00 | Patlabor221 | guess I'll just do that |
| 02:44:36 | Patlabor221 | don't think anyone will use it outside debuging anyway |
| 02:45:16 | captain_proton | probably not |
| 02:46:50 | Patlabor221 | ok you want just the panel manager and texture manager? or the entire thing? |
| 02:47:00 | Patlabor221 | oh and I made you an icon for windows |
| 02:47:03 | Patlabor221 | it's horible |
| 02:47:08 | captain_proton | just the stuff thats changed |
| 02:47:32 | captain_proton | if its easiest just to zip up that works too |
| 02:47:48 | Patlabor221 | well crap I changed the win projects |
| 02:47:53 | Patlabor221 | I have to do it all |
| 02:47:58 | Patlabor221 | all but the data dir |
| 02:48:09 | Patlabor221 | I made my folder names match your lin names |
| 02:48:14 | Patlabor221 | include instead of inc |
| 02:48:32 | Patlabor221 | and PannelManager instead of PanelMngr etc.. |
| 02:48:46 | captain_proton | PanelManager ;) |
| 02:48:52 | Patlabor221 | yeah yeah |
| 02:48:56 | Patlabor221 | I just type too fast |
| 02:49:06 | Patlabor221 | it's spelled right in the folder |
| 02:49:43 | captain_proton | you could type it even faster if you left out the additional n |
| 02:49:46 | captain_proton | grins |
| 02:49:49 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 02:49:54 | Patlabor221 | I don't know why I do it |
| 02:50:26 | captain_proton | hmm, tomorrow i think i go buy a tv tuner card |
| 02:50:38 | Patlabor221 | 177 K ok for a DCC? |
| 02:50:50 | captain_proton | yeah, sure |
| 02:51:43 | Patlabor221 | it's nice to have them all consistent now |
| 02:52:05 | Patlabor221 | I do copy the headers into include, as I don't have a link think like you do |
| 02:52:21 | captain_proton | yeah i noticed |
| 02:52:21 | Patlabor221 | well not that works in VC6 |
| 02:52:34 | Patlabor221 | 7 wil take shortcusts |
| 02:52:49 | Patlabor221 | but 7 is not the stableset thing |
| 02:52:53 | Patlabor221 | for C and C++ |
| 02:53:25 | Patlabor221 | not when we tried to compile our templates and it crashed the copiler |
| 02:53:30 | captain_proton | hmm, jetstream.NET? |
| 02:53:39 | Patlabor221 | ohh god |
| 02:53:56 | Patlabor221 | it's not a game it's a web service |
| 02:54:41 | Patlabor221 | hell MFC in .net dosn't even have the ".net" look that office does |
| 02:54:53 | Patlabor221 | we are having to get another framework that does that |
| 02:55:08 | Patlabor221 | seems MS don't use MFC for the core apps |
| 02:55:46 | captain_proton | 'course not |
| 02:55:53 | captain_proton | MFC is a slow piece of crap |
| 02:56:02 | Patlabor221 | it's not that slow |
| 02:56:07 | Patlabor221 | it is a leaky bitch tho |
| 02:56:33 | Patlabor221 | we are geting something that's basicly a fixed up version of MFC |
| 02:56:36 | Patlabor221 | looks nice |
| 02:57:00 | Patlabor221 | keeps the good things, throws out the bad thing |
| 02:57:05 | Patlabor221 | bad things |
| 02:57:15 | captain_proton | hmm, from whome? |
| 02:57:16 | captain_proton | whom* |
| 02:57:30 | Patlabor221 | crap I don't remember |
| 02:57:36 | Patlabor221 | it's called BCG tho |
| 02:58:25 | Patlabor221 | and it's not exensive |
| 02:58:37 | Patlabor221 | only about 300 per dev seat no royalties |
| 02:59:08 | captain_proton | nice |
| 02:59:48 | Patlabor221 | sad thing is the intal implentation in our software will be calling it from our own version of the mac API |
| 03:00:00 | Patlabor221 | talk about going through hoops |
| 03:00:48 | Patlabor221 | and sad for a prduct that is no longer made on or for the mac |
| 03:03:33 | captain_proton | what product? |
| 03:03:49 | Patlabor221 | our cam stuff |
| 03:03:57 | Patlabor221 | GibbsCAM :) |
| 03:04:10 | Patlabor221 | slowly we are removing the mac calls |
| 03:07:08 | captain_proton | hmm, i should try to pull some strings and get a job at spatial |
| 03:07:22 | Patlabor221 | on ACIS? |
| 03:07:25 | Patlabor221 | we use that |
| 03:07:32 | Patlabor221 | just for import tho |
| 03:07:51 | Patlabor221 | we use parasolid for out modeling and internals |
| 03:08:19 | captain_proton | ya, know a guy there |
| 03:09:16 | Patlabor221 | where are they located? |
| 03:09:48 | captain_proton | broomfield i think |
| 03:09:52 | captain_proton | closeby here |
| 03:11:19 | fontenot | ah im finding ppl having same problem as me |
| 03:11:28 | fontenot | but from march :-\ |
| 03:11:31 | fontenot | bad sign |
| 03:11:48 | captain_proton | hmm, perhaps just run 2.4.18 |
| 03:16:10 | captain_proton | whoa you're right |
| 03:16:12 | captain_proton | that icon IS ugly |
| 03:16:52 | Patlabor221 | told you |
| 03:17:08 | Patlabor221 | I just wanted to make sure it had a resource script in the DSW |
| 03:17:46 | Patlabor221 | ok I sleep now |
| 03:17:54 | Patlabor221 | before I pass out |
| 03:17:55 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 03:18:07 | fontenot | captain_proton: I cant run 2.4.18 because it does not support my southbridge |
| 03:18:17 | fontenot | but maybe these posts will give me some hints |
| 03:20:47 | fontenot | nope, last post m=by andre hedrick on mar 19th saying he has a client paying him to develop that driver |
| 03:23:23 | fontenot | hmm, some stuff on the highpoint site |
| 03:30:03 | fontenot | hmm, the soyo site killed galeon while I was downloading from the highpoint site |
| 03:30:07 | fontenot | not my day in many ways |
| 03:32:08 | fontenot | and galeon's not smart enough to resume the download |
| 03:35:15 | fontenot | sigh it did it again, guess I will use wget to dl |
| 03:46:02 | jp_zZzZzz | nigths. |
| 04:16:18 | Widget | Eep. |
| 04:16:19 | Widget | Netsplit. |
| 04:21:21 | captain_proton | fears the netsplits |
| 04:22:02 | Widget | Wow. captain_proton didn't say fj33r.... |
| 04:24:43 | captain_proton | fj33rs it too |
| 04:43:16 | Widget | hihihi, captain_pistachi. |
| 05:00:57 | captain_proton | trots off to shower |
| 05:11:19 | Widget | Where are the logs for this channel located? |
| 05:18:05 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 05:18:08 | iLLf8d | no life tonight |
| 05:18:56 | Widget | Nope. |
| 05:19:32 | fontenot | holy crap it f-ing works!!! |
| 05:20:20 | Widget | You obviously use Linux or somesuch. ;) |
| 05:22:58 | captain_proton | haha |
| 05:23:26 | fontenot | an -ac patch and an andre patch did the trick! |
| 05:27:41 | | http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/~timr/<channelname>/ |
| 05:27:41 | BZFlag | ibot logs |
| 05:29:13 | Widget | Danke. |
| 05:29:30 | | fontenot: no idea |
| 05:29:30 | fontenot | ibot: are you a spy? |
| 05:35:29 | Widget | Does this just log connects and disconnects? |
| 05:40:32 | BZFlag | Widget: if you don't looks in the channel directory, then yes. |
| 05:40:43 | BZFlag | http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/~timr/bzflag/ |
| 05:43:05 | captain_proton | how come when i take a break from bzflag there's no development? :P |
| 05:54:09 | captain_proton | ponders going to bed early again |
| 05:55:21 | Widget | Wow... captain_proton might actually develop normal sleeping habits. |
| 05:55:43 | captain_proton | doubtful |
| 05:55:47 | captain_proton | i just gotta heal |
| 05:56:12 | Widget | Good luck on your interview tomorrow. |
| 05:56:20 | captain_proton | thankees |
| 06:33:57 | captain_proton | is off to bed |
| 06:44:18 | Widget | Dum dum. |
| 06:55:36 | bomber_ | moin |
| 06:58:33 | Widget | Morgen, bomber_. |
| 07:31:37 | Widget | Dinnertime, BRB. |
| 07:58:29 | [TeA|TrEE] | g |
| 07:58:37 | [TeA|TrEE] | ho |
| 08:22:53 | bomber_ | hi tea |
| 08:23:13 | Widget | hihihi |
| 08:23:28 | Widget | I'm going to bed. |
| 08:23:39 | Widget | hihihi, SRRIndia. |
| 08:23:43 | SRRIndia | Hi BZFlag |
| 08:24:05 | | BZFlag was last seen on #uclibc 1 hours, 55 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: reading [Mon Aug 19 07:28:14 2002] |
| 08:24:05 | Widget | ibot: seen BZFlag |
| 08:24:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | hihihi, widget |
| 08:24:16 | Widget | hihihi, [TeA|TrEE]. |
| 08:24:22 | [TeA|TrEE] | he is here ! |
| 08:24:27 | [TeA|TrEE] | eidget |
| 08:24:27 | [TeA|TrEE] | widget |
| 08:24:32 | Widget | BZFlag may be sleeping now... it's very early in the US. |
| 08:24:33 | [TeA|TrEE] | BZFlag is op |
| 08:24:42 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 08:24:49 | [TeA|TrEE] | 11:30 am here |
| 08:24:53 | Widget | I know. |
| 08:24:56 | Widget | And 9:30 PM here. |
| 08:25:03 | Widget | I'm going to bed.. see you. |
| 08:25:12 | [TeA|TrEE] | bye |
| 08:25:57 | BZFlag | I'm headed to bed. |
| 08:26:38 | BZFlag | what's up SRRIndia? Still Sunday here, I've not gotten my hardware setup again. (ok, monday morning ;-) |
| 08:27:24 | BZFlag | SRRIndia: oh, and tell Devesh he's sneaky, but I _loved_ the ticket upgrade! |
| 08:27:25 | SRRIndia | ok thanks and good noght |
| 08:27:34 | SRRIndia | You are welcome |
| 08:27:50 | BZFlag | I'm spoiled now, sheesh. ;-) |
| 08:28:00 | SRRIndia | Hope the flight back was good |
| 08:28:12 | BZFlag | it was fine. Matt and I slept well. |
| 08:28:23 | SRRIndia | will make sure you get more spoilt |
| 08:28:35 | BZFlag | heh. sounds like fun. ;-) |
| 08:29:11 | SRRIndia | I will the s/w gap across by evening today so that it will be with you tomorow ie monday |
| 08:33:24 | BZFlag | ok, I'll reply tomorrow. well, must sleep. night (or afternoon in your case) |
| 08:33:39 | [TeA|TrEE] | brb |
| 08:38:53 | Chestal | hmm, no matches yesterday? |
| 08:38:58 | [TeA|TrEE] | no |
| 08:39:13 | [TeA|TrEE] | im gone 2 weeks this evening |
| 08:57:25 | pnm | guten tag |
| 08:58:39 | pnm | buongiorno |
| 09:06:52 | iLLf8d | night all |
| 11:27:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 12:55:08 | akira_ | moin |
| 13:01:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | tere |
| 13:43:03 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Terve. |
| 14:37:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | huh sleepin on daytime makes head thick... |
| 14:37:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | and if there 25C outside.... |
| 14:38:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | Widget winter there? |
| 14:55:29 | paulj | Chestal: your code for the probability thingy, would you make it open source? i wouldnt mind having a look at it, if you feel so inclined. |
| 15:10:21 | m0nkeyb0y | anyone here? |
| 15:10:34 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 15:10:48 | m0nkeyb0y | heh |
| 15:11:04 | m0nkeyb0y | how do i query a bz server from here? |
| 15:11:17 | patlabor221 | wonders why none of is favoate old sound APIs have bee updated to suppport OGG |
| 15:11:27 | | server is turkey moongroup, i hope one of u is it's admins. |
| 15:11:27 | patlabor221 | what server? |
| 15:11:36 | m0nkeyb0y | any of them... |
| 15:11:45 | m0nkeyb0y | ducati.unix-ag.org |
| 15:11:47 | | patlabor221: huh? |
| 15:11:47 | patlabor221 | Ibot has some shortcts |
| 15:11:52 | | patlabor221: excuse me? |
| 15:11:52 | patlabor221 | ibot jzuan |
| 15:12:08 | | m0nkeyb0y: i'm not following you... |
| 15:12:08 | m0nkeyb0y | ibot jzaun.com:5157 |
| 15:12:14 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:12:14 | patlabor221 | ibot ducati |
| 15:12:15 | bzbot | bomber (penguins) (R): 16 (51-35). xabbu (G): -16 (50-66). The Meat (G): 0 (13-13). [TeA|TrEE] (G): 14 (26-12). Gustav (G): 1 (19-18). monkey (R): -1 (1-2). MIRELLA (R): -2 (4-6). |
| 15:12:17 | m0nkeyb0y | bzbot |
| 15:12:20 | patlabor221 | there s is |
| 15:12:31 | m0nkeyb0y | ahh thanx! |
| 15:12:37 | patlabor221 | no problem |
| 15:13:05 | patlabor221 | mmmmmm miles sound system..... |
| 15:15:23 | | m0nkeyb0y: i'm not following you... |
| 15:15:23 | m0nkeyb0y | ibot ducati 5156 |
| 15:15:33 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:15:33 | m0nkeyb0y | ibot ducati |
| 15:15:34 | bzbot | bomber (penguins) (R): 18 (58-40). [TeA|TrEE] (R): 0 (3-3). xabbu (G): -15 (56-71). The Meat (G): -7 (17-24). bzgirl (R): 0 (5-5). @ (R): 0 (0-0). Gustav (G): -2 (25-27). MIRELLA (R): -6 (9-15). |
| 15:15:36 | | patlabor221: sorry... |
| 15:15:36 | patlabor221 | ibot wont take a port |
| 15:15:56 | patlabor221 | if you want a difrent port you have to do the bzfquery yourself |
| 15:16:01 | m0nkeyb0y | this is weird, i can traceroute to ducati, i get about 130ms |
| 15:16:09 | m0nkeyb0y | but i cannot connect, says i time out |
| 15:16:18 | m0nkeyb0y | no server list for me either |
| 15:16:20 | m0nkeyb0y | hmmm |
| 15:16:36 | patlabor221 | are you port blocked? |
| 15:16:47 | m0nkeyb0y | i checked they look fine |
| 15:17:00 | m0nkeyb0y | strange... |
| 15:18:33 | captain_proton | well, i'm off to go get the job i shoulda had 3 months ago |
| 15:18:36 | patlabor221 | well it sounds like something is blocked |
| 15:19:00 | m0nkeyb0y | it does. |
| 15:19:12 | m0nkeyb0y | captain you have a job? |
| 15:20:49 | captain_proton | not right now |
| 15:21:51 | m0nkeyb0y | oh |
| 15:22:03 | m0nkeyb0y | ok i am off to figure out this damn prob |
| 15:22:23 | patlabor221 | how goes the jawline cap? |
| 15:23:28 | captain_proton | still hurts, but i no longer feel like killing everyone |
| 15:23:39 | patlabor221 | well that's good |
| 15:23:46 | captain_proton | i should go |
| 15:23:55 | patlabor221 | hopefully you can drive to that job interview today |
| 15:24:01 | captain_proton | yep, off the perc |
| 15:24:14 | captain_proton | see yas in an hour and a half or so |
| 15:24:37 | patlabor221 | see ay |
| 15:45:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | someone have tried UHU Linux? |
| 16:31:54 | | niihau, [BZ]Ruudi |
| 16:31:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 16:37:00 | | Sorry, patlabor221, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 16:37:00 | patlabor221 | ibot shutup |
| 16:37:13 | patlabor221 | cap you back yet? |
| 16:37:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | hah windows mediaplayer is impossible! |
| 16:38:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | it can't even remember playlist sort options! |
| 16:38:36 | patlabor221 | use winamp |
| 16:38:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | winamp can play divx? |
| 16:38:49 | patlabor221 | onn no |
| 16:39:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | wll i mean movies list |
| 16:39:14 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 16:39:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | too bad i must use win at all :( |
| 16:39:35 | paulj | chestal? |
| 16:39:37 | patlabor221 | why must you? |
| 16:39:46 | jpablo | patlabor221: ever seen spirited away ? |
| 16:39:54 | patlabor221 | no I have not |
| 16:39:58 | [BZ]Ruudi | couse of soft i use there is nothing like that for linux |
| 16:40:06 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 16:40:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | and can't afford a mac |
| 16:40:14 | jpablo | humm, it looks good, i'm downloading it rigth now. |
| 16:40:29 | jpablo | [BZ]Ruudi: what soft ? |
| 16:40:36 | patlabor221 | jpablo: I just got a new shiro DVD called gundress, looks good, havent watched it yet |
| 16:40:57 | jpablo | patlabor221: cool. |
| 16:41:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | logic audio, wavelab... jpablo |
| 16:41:39 | jpablo | humm. |
| 16:41:39 | patlabor221 | jpablo: and a new el hazard DVD :):):) |
| 16:41:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | those pro music apps should go into QNX then there would be a normal music makin platform for pc too |
| 16:42:04 | jpablo | patlabor221: what seasson ? |
| 16:42:09 | patlabor221 | OVA |
| 16:42:15 | patlabor221 | seond OVA I think |
| 16:42:32 | patlabor221 | where fugisawa gets maried |
| 16:42:48 | patlabor221 | haven't found first OVA on DVD yet |
| 16:42:53 | patlabor221 | that's the best one |
| 16:42:59 | jpablo | oh, i haven't seen nothing of el hazard :\ |
| 16:43:09 | patlabor221 | you should |
| 16:43:16 | patlabor221 | it is my all time fav |
| 16:43:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | i haven't even heard about those things... |
| 16:43:39 | patlabor221 | it's anime |
| 16:43:40 | jpablo | i have it right here, i'll watch some eps when i found time. |
| 16:43:53 | patlabor221 | don't watch the TV series frist |
| 16:43:59 | patlabor221 | not as agood |
| 16:44:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | hentai? |
| 16:44:08 | patlabor221 | no no |
| 16:44:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | i have seen ghost in cell...but not big anime fan anyway |
| 16:44:42 | patlabor221 | ghost in the shell was an exelent example of animation |
| 16:44:52 | patlabor221 | but they killed it from the manga |
| 16:45:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno about manga |
| 16:45:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | oh and i have seen that F.A.K.K |
| 16:45:21 | [BZ]Ruudi | all crap it was |
| 16:45:34 | patlabor221 | that's not anime |
| 16:45:35 | patlabor221 | that's crap |
| 16:45:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | yea |
| 16:45:42 | patlabor221 | made by US company |
| 16:46:21 | jpablo | what's FAKK ? |
| 16:46:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | is getting pissed to that win2000 |
| 16:46:39 | patlabor221 | if you get a chance watch cowbly beebop, it's the best anime for people who don't like anime |
| 16:46:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | XP is any better :? |
| 16:46:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | ok i'll remember that |
| 16:47:00 | patlabor221 | XP is nicer, but it depends onw what you are trying to do |
| 16:47:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | should check into my divx servers |
| 16:47:15 | patlabor221 | jpable: fakk was heavey metal 2 basicly |
| 16:47:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | heavymetal 1 wasn't any better |
| 16:47:32 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:48:07 | jpablo | hehe. |
| 16:48:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | got Vertigo on hdd old good Alfred :) |
| 16:49:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | anyone have seen Pi? |
| 16:49:46 | patlabor221 | saw parts of it |
| 16:49:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | best film in movies history :) |
| 16:51:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | damn i got german film with no subtitles :( |
| 16:53:20 | jp_school | bye. |
| 16:53:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | ncu |
| 16:57:47 | captain_proton | returns |
| 17:00:09 | patlabor221 | huzzzzah |
| 17:00:30 | patlabor221 | cap: who dealocates the ponters in the panelmap? |
| 17:01:00 | captain_proton | patlabor221: um, nothing ;) |
| 17:01:19 | patlabor221 | that explains the leak then |
| 17:01:40 | captain_proton | ahh yes, you windows people don't get memory back when the program quits |
| 17:01:58 | patlabor221 | no we do |
| 17:02:06 | patlabor221 | it's just considerd bad form |
| 17:02:23 | patlabor221 | win3.1 didn't get it back |
| 17:02:34 | captain_proton | win 95/98/me doesn't get it back |
| 17:02:47 | patlabor221 | like I said win 3.1 :) |
| 17:03:04 | patlabor221 | debuger tells me when mem is left hangin |
| 17:03:13 | patlabor221 | I shall add a cleanup |
| 17:03:56 | patlabor221 | things we need a font manager |
| 17:04:19 | captain_proton | yes |
| 17:04:23 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm i got no mem problems in win2000 |
| 17:04:50 | patlabor221 | 2k is NT based |
| 17:04:55 | patlabor221 | mem manager dosn't stuck |
| 17:04:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | but i got all sort of "lets make user's life a horrorshow clickin hell" bads |
| 17:05:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | and i got no nice lookin desktop :P |
| 17:05:39 | patlabor221 | so fix it |
| 17:05:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | downloads new QNX Photon is best lookin desktop i have ever seen |
| 17:05:54 | patlabor221 | get XP it has more customisations |
| 17:05:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | well you can't make win lookin mutch better |
| 17:06:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | XP looks soo damend at the first point that i don't dare to toutch it :P |
| 17:06:32 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: qnx photon? link me |
| 17:06:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | www.qnx.com but i'll find screenshots page |
| 17:07:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | QNX needs soft and it would be best OS for pc |
| 17:07:53 | patlabor221 | you don't have to use that crap XP paltnum theme |
| 17:07:55 | patlabor221 | there are others |
| 17:08:10 | patlabor221 | or as it's called "my first windows" |
| 17:08:12 | captain_proton | haha |
| 17:08:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | hehee |
| 17:08:18 | patlabor221 | I have mine looking exactly like 2k |
| 17:08:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | tleel tubbies theme |
| 17:08:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | tele i mean |
| 17:08:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | tv.. |
| 17:15:45 | patlabor221 | cap: I am guesing I shouldn't call the paramaer that we pass to the panel items as alpaha |
| 17:15:52 | patlabor221 | it could be used for any paramater |
| 17:15:59 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, true |
| 17:16:12 | patlabor221 | it realy is the transition progress |
| 17:16:29 | patlabor221 | thingks of menus that fly in and out, as they fade |
| 17:17:50 | captain_proton | heh |
| 17:17:57 | patlabor221 | that would be neat |
| 17:18:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://skins.solardreamstudios.com/screenshots/qnx-real-6.1.jpg |
| 17:19:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://skins.solardreamstudios.com/screenshots/qnx-real-6.0.jpg QNX shots |
| 17:19:33 | captain_proton | hmm, SDL runs on qnx |
| 17:20:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | should be bud i had problems in 6.1 now i'm downloading 6.2 |
| 17:20:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | i think bzflag for qnx needed :P so you can play it in your mercedes :P |
| 17:21:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | but dunno about that gl stuff... |
| 17:21:42 | captain_proton | hmm, yes, that is pretty |
| 17:22:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | it's possible to boot up from cd and use it |
| 17:23:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | it only creates kind of swap file you need a little room on hdd |
| 17:29:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://media.fastclick.net/w/get.media?t=s&sid=1044&m=1&f=a&v=1.2&c=432&j=1280|1024|32||||N|Y|&r=http%3A//pcdesktops.emuunlim.com/ns31-35.shtml&d=f |
| 17:29:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | pc desktops |
| 17:33:31 | akira_ | moin |
| 17:34:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | moan :P |
| 17:34:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 17:42:56 | akira_ | na kleinner |
| 18:05:50 | home | hi |
| 18:35:44 | Cell_prog_insect | if the wall is close to the right of my tank and i have no velocity and try to rotate it does not rotate, almost like in reality, cool |
| 18:40:40 | Cell_prog_insect | can there be find a transformation function that transforms all obstacles in the gane into one box like region in 3D and all legal movement area in the outside of the 3d box/region, would be nice |
| 19:17:52 | patlabor221 | cell you can make axis aligned BBs for everything |
| 19:28:55 | Cell_prog_insect | yes but thats not enough |
| 19:30:05 | Cell_prog_insect | mdk used a cylinder that completly encapsulated the charecter for collision detection, but thats somehow to difficult |
| 19:33:52 | Cell_prog_insect | the main problem is the movement bbox interpolation from one frame to the other to avoid an fast object passing to anything it should not.This is getting just more complicated due to angular velocity |
| 19:35:56 | patlabor221 | full colisions are complicated |
| 19:36:06 | patlabor221 | that's why post people simplify them |
| 19:36:49 | patlabor221 | and ture real world colisions in game sometimes would be frustraiting, as the player dosn't allways have a good "feel" for how his avitar is shaped |
| 19:36:50 | Cell_prog_insect | so what id do now is: build the thightest frame to frame motion bbox, then check if any polygons interfere with that bbox and collect them |
| 19:37:18 | patlabor221 | for the fast thing, you should check the path, not the postion at each frame |
| 19:37:30 | Cell_prog_insect | the path? |
| 19:37:34 | patlabor221 | es |
| 19:37:35 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:37:44 | patlabor221 | the path the thing follows between the frames |
| 19:38:02 | Cell_prog_insect | but a tank does not have a path |
| 19:38:06 | patlabor221 | sure it does |
| 19:38:14 | patlabor221 | last frame it was in one point |
| 19:38:21 | patlabor221 | this frame it was at another |
| 19:38:26 | Cell_prog_insect | k, but that does not change anything |
| 19:38:31 | patlabor221 | the simpletst path is a the line between the points |
| 19:38:54 | Cell_prog_insect | oh u mean that would be eough, i doubt it |
| 19:38:59 | patlabor221 | if you test all along that path then you get any posible colison no mater how long the path is |
| 19:39:20 | Cell_prog_insect | all what? |
| 19:40:38 | Cell_prog_insect | dont understand |
| 19:41:24 | patlabor221 | alll I'm saying is don't look at the things as being stoped in time at each frame, know that there was a path of motion from one frame to the next |
| 19:41:47 | patlabor221 | but I don't know your exact situation so I can't realy say |
| 19:42:19 | Cell_prog_insect | dont understan u even more now |
| 19:43:02 | patlabor221 | you said you had a problem with very fast things going through stuff |
| 19:43:07 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, you changed the default transition time to 1.5s? |
| 19:43:20 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 19:43:20 | patlabor221 | yeah, just to test |
| 19:43:28 | captain_proton | hmm, .5 is nicer |
| 19:43:41 | patlabor221 | cap: my new one allows it to be set exernaly |
| 19:44:17 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, newer than the version you sent yesterday? |
| 19:44:24 | patlabor221 | cell: this can only be a problem when you make colision tests on each frame, just on the endpoint of the movement path |
| 19:45:13 | patlabor221 | cap: yes. I have continued to work on it to allow the manager to be derived so that it can process events that are not perv/next panel. |
| 19:45:26 | Cell_prog_insect | i dont, as i said, i make the motion box |
| 19:45:55 | Cell_prog_insect | wait i show u a picture |
| 19:46:14 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, i've got the version with the virtual functions, but i don't see a method for setting the transition time - is it just something expected in inheriting? |
| 19:46:55 | patlabor221 | cell: ahh I see, I misunderstood |
| 19:47:21 | patlabor221 | cell: then you wouldn't have a problem wiht fast thigns like that as loong as you first did a box/box intersection test |
| 19:47:43 | Cell_prog_insect | i have no probs with fast things, therefore i did it |
| 19:48:13 | Cell_prog_insect | but i have a prob with many other things |
| 19:48:39 | Cell_prog_insect | mostly due to angular velocity |
| 19:49:25 | patlabor221 | yes that' can be a problem |
| 19:49:32 | patlabor221 | we had a problem wiht that on treadmarks |
| 19:49:52 | patlabor221 | we were unable to do true "real" physics becasue of it |
| 19:49:54 | Cell_prog_insect | i show u a picture with my biggest problems |
| 20:02:24 | captain_proton | yaay i've got email again |
| 20:02:37 | captain_proton | <-- starts sweating when his mailserver goes down |
| 20:20:01 | PerfectCell | shit i was out due to connection sharing |
| 20:20:18 | PerfectCell | it never works really good |
| 20:21:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 20:22:50 | PerfectCell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/images/collprobA.gif |
| 20:23:04 | PerfectCell | patlabor221:here is my coll prob |
| 20:25:43 | Chestal | re |
| 20:26:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | is going to try out QNX 6.2 |
| 20:27:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 20:27:17 | mandy | hihihi |
| 20:27:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | what it's going to be then eh... |
| 20:27:54 | mandy | hmm? |
| 20:28:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | bezoomny night sitin in tank...:P |
| 20:28:30 | mandy | lol |
| 20:28:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | have you red clockwork orange? |
| 20:29:02 | mandy | no... |
| 20:29:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | you should |
| 20:29:29 | mandy | i see |
| 20:29:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | may be hard to understand all for a regular american but not so |
| 20:30:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | i mean there is lot of words took from russian |
| 20:30:10 | mandy | ohh |
| 20:31:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | heh and american version of that book have no last chapter... |
| 20:31:23 | mandy | you calling us stupid? |
| 20:31:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | no why stupid? |
| 20:31:44 | mandy | hmm |
| 20:31:54 | mandy | I guess I took that wrong |
| 20:32:27 | Chestal | Ruudi: I didn't read it either, but I love the movie |
| 20:32:28 | [BZ]Ruudi | well thats a moranous thing to cut out last chapter from book that writer made..but that doesn't make you fool :P |
| 20:32:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | well movie got no that last chapter too.. |
| 20:32:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | movie is made by american book |
| 20:32:54 | Chestal | hmm, what happens in that last chapter? |
| 20:32:55 | mandy | stupif |
| 20:33:00 | mandy | stupid* |
| 20:33:03 | Chestal | maybe I ashould just read the book |
| 20:33:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | actualy that last chapter is point of whole that story |
| 20:33:08 | mandy | stupid stupid stupid |
| 20:33:30 | Chestal | that's 'naughty naught naughty' :-) |
| 20:33:37 | Chestal | forgot one 'y' |
| 20:33:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | in last chapter guy understands that that was young age that gave him all that rage and so he just grows up |
| 20:34:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | read it it's even more juicy than film |
| 20:34:32 | mandy | naughty naughty naughty chestal |
| 20:34:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | we were siting in carowa milk bar :P |
| 20:35:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | they were selling milk plus...and so on |
| 20:35:08 | mandy | :P |
| 20:35:41 | Chestal | the bst thing about the movie is the music |
| 20:35:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | mandy pticha ;) |
| 20:35:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | old ludviga van |
| 20:36:05 | mandy | bleh |
| 20:36:17 | patlabor221 | cell: sorry had to go to a meeting |
| 20:36:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | ok i'm going to boot up QNX now |
| 20:36:40 | patlabor221 | looks like you need to make detect that colisoon before it becomes entrant |
| 20:37:25 | patlabor221 | that's why I usualy use spheres or cylinders, it's not as realistic but it makes this calc easyer, and the game easer to play |
| 20:37:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm no need to boot i see |
| 20:39:02 | patlabor221 | cap: I change the ProcessPage func to just return a bool if it should quit |
| 20:39:29 | patlabor221 | if anything else speical needs to be done then it can be handaled in a derived version |
| 20:39:43 | patlabor221 | and I hate passing strings around. |
| 20:47:43 | Widget | An dieser Website wird gerade gebaut. Bald gibt's neues!!! |
| 20:51:40 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, ok |
| 20:51:51 | Cell_prog_insect | oh its already midnight in two min, i need to go to bed now, bye |
| 20:52:28 | patlabor221 | cap: do you think we need a font amanger? |
| 20:52:36 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, could be useful |
| 20:52:46 | captain_proton | i'd at least like to make the fonts keep track of metrics |
| 20:52:46 | patlabor221 | so that all the classes could just ask for a font by name |
| 20:52:53 | patlabor221 | yeah that's what I'm thinking |
| 20:53:10 | patlabor221 | cus I'd like to be able to specify a font for an item |
| 20:53:20 | patlabor221 | as an option |
| 20:53:32 | patlabor221 | if it dosn't spec one the it just uses the managers fornt |
| 20:55:24 | captain_proton | there are probably more important things though |
| 20:55:54 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:56:05 | patlabor221 | but this is just the order I am thinking of them in |
| 20:56:36 | patlabor221 | I'm geting ready to test the ability to actualy set game data from the thing now |
| 21:09:16 | patlabor221 | is very happy, he has made his first panel |
| 21:09:35 | captain_proton | first panel? |
| 21:09:51 | patlabor221 | first one made by me |
| 21:09:55 | patlabor221 | I've been using yours |
| 21:10:13 | patlabor221 | BZA now uses the pannel manager :) |
| 21:10:34 | captain_proton | fun |
| 21:11:05 | patlabor221 | I didn't want mess with your app while I did the work to make it set data |
| 21:11:50 | patlabor221 | what is an XCF file? |
| 21:12:13 | captain_proton | gimp |
| 21:12:24 | sussudio | my pc case mod.... "board on top of empty cardboard box" http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/board.jpg |
| 21:12:24 | patlabor221 | k |
| 21:12:24 | captain_proton | thats the version of my logo w/ all the layers |
| 21:12:30 | patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 21:12:54 | patlabor221 | hey I got one of those cases too |
| 21:13:09 | patlabor221 | but I call mine "crap on a table with power" |
| 21:13:13 | sussudio | damn someone beat me to the nocase-mod |
| 21:13:30 | patlabor221 | wel you got the box |
| 21:13:37 | patlabor221 | I am using 2 paperback books |
| 21:13:57 | sussudio | yeah been there. |
| 21:14:14 | patlabor221 | or on one machine I don't have a powerswich |
| 21:14:28 | patlabor221 | so I have to bare wires that you have to touch |
| 21:15:18 | sussudio | yeah i had something similar once.... dont take off rubber things, they're good for something |
| 21:16:19 | patlabor221 | best when you have to boot it by hiting the contacts with a scredriver |
| 21:17:11 | sussudio | uh huh. |
| 21:17:32 | sussudio | or you could touch your tongue to the speaker contacts and feel the beeps |
| 21:24:22 | doughecka | sets up the 933 mhz dual P3 comp |
| 21:24:37 | patlabor221 | is it for you? |
| 21:24:40 | doughecka | *sigh* |
| 21:24:44 | doughecka | its huge and heavy |
| 21:24:52 | patlabor221 | why dualies? |
| 21:24:52 | doughecka | and has 2 power supplies |
| 21:25:00 | patlabor221 | must be a server |
| 21:25:05 | doughecka | its a Dell poweregde |
| 21:25:10 | patlabor221 | server |
| 21:25:13 | doughecka | for my dad to leanr software |
| 21:25:18 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:25:28 | captain_proton | wonders when he's getting the next panel manager |
| 21:25:31 | doughecka | I would take it, but it costs 3 grand |
| 21:25:36 | patlabor221 | in aobut 20 min |
| 21:25:37 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:25:51 | doughecka | bah |
| 21:25:52 | patlabor221 | 3 grad for 933's I doubt it |
| 21:26:00 | mandy | bleh |
| 21:26:07 | doughecka | goes and gets the dual power cables for it |
| 21:26:23 | patlabor221 | merft |
| 21:26:23 | doughecka | its a split power cable |
| 21:26:31 | doughecka | and I am usin it for the comps... |
| 21:26:41 | doughecka | it WAS 3 grand! |
| 21:26:44 | doughecka | hehe |
| 21:26:54 | doughecka | hmmm, brb |
| 21:27:06 | doughecka | have to pull the power calbes off this computer |
| 21:27:15 | patlabor221 | I'm very happy for you |
| 21:27:23 | patlabor221 | then they got riped |
| 21:27:40 | doughecka | hmm, it was a rather good deal I heard |
| 21:27:46 | paul | 3 grand? |
| 21:27:49 | paul | pah.. |
| 21:27:50 | doughecka | maybe it was somethin like 2 grand |
| 21:27:50 | patlabor221 | how many drives? |
| 21:27:52 | captain_proton | do i get a snapshot of bza along with it? =} |
| 21:27:54 | doughecka | 3 raid |
| 21:27:59 | patlabor221 | yes you do cap |
| 21:28:02 | patlabor221 | how big? |
| 21:28:11 | doughecka | 3 36 gig I think |
| 21:28:16 | doughecka | setup as a raid |
| 21:28:19 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:28:21 | doughecka | I forget |
| 21:28:25 | patlabor221 | SCSI |
| 21:28:29 | doughecka | yup |
| 21:28:42 | doughecka | and 3 ethernet cards |
| 21:28:45 | doughecka | I dunno why |
| 21:28:50 | doughecka | but 3 |
| 21:28:53 | doughecka | wierd |
| 21:28:58 | patlabor221 | so it can be on 3 networks |
| 21:29:03 | patlabor221 | it's a webserver |
| 21:29:04 | paul | doughecka: you've obviously never had to buy Sun or IBM kit.. |
| 21:29:05 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:29:18 | doughecka | paul hope I dont have to |
| 21:29:22 | doughecka | no |
| 21:29:28 | doughecka | its a trueflow server |
| 21:29:40 | doughecka | for prepress stuff, blah blah blah |
| 21:29:42 | paul | sun: 150 quid for a 1m crossover cable. |
| 21:29:49 | doughecka | whoa |
| 21:29:53 | patlabor221 | what ever, it's used for it set up like a webserver |
| 21:29:59 | doughecka | hrm |
| 21:30:04 | doughecka | cool |
| 21:30:21 | doughecka | its gard guessing which card its gonna use for it though |
| 21:30:25 | doughecka | gard/hard |
| 21:30:33 | doughecka | hehe |
| 21:30:49 | doughecka | brb |
| 21:30:52 | patlabor221 | they don't even sell a powerdege wiht 933's anymore |
| 21:30:57 | doughecka | yes |
| 21:30:58 | doughecka | its old |
| 21:31:03 | doughecka | BRB |
| 21:33:49 | patlabor221 | cap: just need to add a client click then it's ready |
| 21:34:17 | | doughecka? |
| 21:34:17 | doughecka | ibot? |
| 21:34:19 | doughecka | wow |
| 21:34:25 | doughecka | I shutdown and rebooted |
| 21:34:30 | doughecka | and its still live |
| 21:35:19 | captain_proton | coo, coo |
| 21:36:20 | captain_proton | gets ready to bust out a makefile |
| 21:36:39 | patlabor221 | LOL the panel dosn't know about it's manager :) |
| 21:37:02 | Widget | How is the ATI Radeon 7500? |
| 21:37:07 | patlabor221 | decent |
| 21:37:07 | captain_proton | it doesn't? /me wipes a tear |
| 21:37:22 | patlabor221 | well I just find it funny that the item does |
| 21:37:25 | Widget | Better than a TNT2 I hope? |
| 21:37:35 | sussudio | Widget: ummmmm HELL YEAH |
| 21:37:42 | patlabor221 | yes yes |
| 21:37:47 | patlabor221 | much better |
| 21:37:51 | captain_proton | hmm, true |
| 21:37:57 | Widget | Good. |
| 21:38:14 | captain_proton | but the Widgets need to know about the manager, the panels don't :) |
| 21:38:48 | mandy | blehhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 21:38:52 | patlabor221 | it does now |
| 21:39:00 | patlabor221 | pffppfhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht |
| 21:39:15 | patlabor221 | sorry, gas |
| 21:39:27 | mandy | lmao |
| 21:39:32 | mandy | bad pat |
| 21:39:53 | patlabor221 | wow that musta been bad, he had to leave the room |
| 21:40:19 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:40:38 | captain_proton | tries to find out if videolan does v4l |
| 21:41:34 | doughecka | /join #vlc |
| 21:41:39 | doughecka | and ask away! |
| 21:41:42 | doughecka | ;) |
| 21:42:18 | captain_proton | first i'm gonna research doing it with gstreamer first |
| 21:42:23 | captain_proton | because gstreamer is sexier :) |
| 21:42:50 | doughecka | ? |
| 21:42:53 | doughecka | never heard of it |
| 21:43:02 | doughecka | its linux only? |
| 21:43:29 | captain_proton | gstreamer is an API for writing streaming things |
| 21:43:53 | doughecka | oh |
| 21:45:01 | doughecka | wonders of the circut breaker will trip when he turns the server on |
| 21:46:15 | doughecka | woo |
| 21:46:18 | doughecka | noisy thing |
| 21:48:32 | captain_proton | goes to take an advil |
| 21:50:02 | captain_proton | wow, sourceforge is gaining mirrors left and right |
| 21:51:40 | doughecka | yes |
| 21:53:11 | patlabor221 | hmmm geting a buffer overrun in the expresion evalutation |
| 21:53:57 | Widget | What's all this complicated stuff you talk about all day? |
| 21:54:26 | patlabor221 | just your every day compicated stuff |
| 21:55:23 | Widget | Wow... Debian has a lot of packages for libsdl. |
| 21:55:37 | Widget | Do I just need libsdl1.2-dev to write programs that use it' |
| 21:56:25 | patlabor221 | I think so |
| 21:56:26 | captain_proton | likely |
| 21:57:10 | Widget | They have weird packages like libsdl1.2debian, libsdl1.2debian-arts, libsdl-mm0.1, libsdl-image1.2-dev... |
| 21:57:18 | Widget | Wait, do I need libsdl-image1.2-dev? |
| 21:57:31 | captain_proton | if you have anything that uses SDL_image, yes |
| 22:02:46 | captain_proton | waits patiently for bza |
| 22:03:02 | patlabor221 | wonder what he changed to make it break |
| 22:05:38 | captain_proton | show me where its breaking? |
| 22:06:07 | patlabor221 | just ofund it |
| 22:06:10 | patlabor221 | forgot to set the font |
| 22:08:11 | captain_proton | that would do it |
| 22:08:28 | patlabor221 | well I made it so it woudln't crash tho :) |
| 22:08:30 | patlabor221 | just no text |
| 22:08:52 | captain_proton | hum |
| 22:11:40 | captain_proton | should write new float parsers to allow the semicolon directly after the last color field |
| 22:17:45 | patlabor221 | ok cap it's done |
| 22:17:51 | patlabor221 | let me upload it |
| 22:17:55 | sussudio | why do i need 3 friggin fans to cool this house |
| 22:17:58 | patlabor221 | this one's a bit larger |
| 22:18:06 | patlabor221 | you need AC |
| 22:18:12 | sussudio | yeah i need AC cash |
| 22:18:38 | sussudio | initial purchase: about $500 |
| 22:18:52 | sussudio | reaction after getting your first electrical bill: priceless |
| 22:19:02 | patlabor221 | I got a window one for like $85 |
| 22:19:14 | patlabor221 | and it's only added about $10 the the bill |
| 22:19:30 | sussudio | i can not get an AC for under $400 |
| 22:19:38 | sussudio | €400 even |
| 22:19:45 | patlabor221 | wow that sucks |
| 22:19:54 | sussudio | theyre just not sold |
| 22:20:05 | patlabor221 | I know they have portable ones at sears for like %150 |
| 22:20:08 | sussudio | i paid like €60 for this tower fan |
| 22:20:09 | patlabor221 | and you can get them online |
| 22:20:22 | sussudio | hm let's see. no sears on this continent..... |
| 22:20:27 | sussudio | and no credit card...... |
| 22:20:30 | patlabor221 | move :) |
| 22:20:37 | sussudio | although the shipping would be about $400 |
| 22:20:50 | patlabor221 | cap: it's gonna be like 9 megs for the bza snapshot |
| 22:20:58 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, i can handle that |
| 22:21:03 | captain_proton | whats so big? |
| 22:21:06 | patlabor221 | I'll make you a smaler one of the pannel manager |
| 22:21:08 | patlabor221 | music |
| 22:21:16 | patlabor221 | BZA has the soundmanager |
| 22:21:37 | captain_proton | ahh nifty |
| 22:21:41 | captain_proton | works in leenoox? |
| 22:21:49 | patlabor221 | ohh no |
| 22:21:53 | patlabor221 | no leenox |
| 22:22:02 | patlabor221 | just cus of the sound manager tho |
| 22:22:04 | captain_proton | pouts |
| 22:22:22 | patlabor221 | I am trying to figure out SLD_Mixer |
| 22:22:26 | patlabor221 | it supports oggs it says |
| 22:22:44 | patlabor221 | SDL sorry |
| 22:23:00 | sussudio | bzflag sounds like ass under kde |
| 22:23:41 | captain_proton | sussudio: thats because arts is crap |
| 22:23:50 | sussudio | grunts |
| 22:24:16 | captain_proton | patlabor221: uff. you firewalled? |
| 22:24:23 | patlabor221 | damit |
| 22:24:28 | patlabor221 | forgot I'm at work |
| 22:25:05 | patlabor221 | then it's all at..... |
| 22:25:33 | patlabor221 | I am guessing you will want the smaller one first |
| 22:25:52 | captain_proton | i'll zap down bza to a server |
| 22:26:15 | patlabor221 | yes it's mamoth |
| 22:46:45 | captain_proton | pokes patlabor221 |
| 23:00:12 | bryjen | bzfquery 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 23:00:13 | bzbot | Blue: 1 players, score: 0 | |
| 23:00:21 | bryjen | bzfquerylong 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 23:00:23 | bzbot | beef (B): 0 (0-0). |
| 23:01:29 | captain_proton | hmm, i have to start practicing the decks to prepare for my return to the land of bandwidth |
| 23:02:45 | sussudio | i dont think you'll be allowed to enter the land of bandwith again after that prank with the false bomb scare |
| 23:03:01 | doughecka | ?? |
| 23:03:19 | sussudio | splashes some cold water on doughecka |
| 23:03:30 | doughecka | firehoses sussudio |
| 23:03:42 | captain_proton | sussudio: damn, you sound more drugged than me |
| 23:03:56 | sussudio | banana cream soda |
| 23:04:14 | doughecka | SUGER! |
| 23:04:23 | captain_proton | ewe |
| 23:04:38 | sussudio | baah |
| 23:04:49 | doughecka | wonders if POVRAY supports SMP |
| 23:05:31 | captain_proton | looks like videolan supports v4l a tiny bit, and gstreamer has full support |
| 23:05:41 | doughecka | what ist v4l? |
| 23:06:05 | captain_proton | video 4 linux |
| 23:06:09 | doughecka | bah @ linux |
| 23:06:11 | doughecka | ;) |
| 23:06:14 | doughecka | get a mac |
| 23:06:16 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:06:24 | sussudio | macs give me indigestion |
| 23:06:32 | doughecka | then dont think about the, |
| 23:06:34 | captain_proton | a mac wouldn't allow me to stream TV to my roommate's computer ;) |
| 23:06:52 | sussudio | i think i'll watercool a mac by throwing it into a damn ditch |
| 23:06:52 | doughecka | hmm, yes it would.... |
| 23:06:56 | doughecka | using vlc |
| 23:07:42 | doughecka | sussudio: wow, then upgread from your Apple ][ and get a iMac |
| 23:07:56 | sussudio | imac. dude. |
| 23:08:07 | sussudio | how lame a computer can you get. |
| 23:08:12 | doughecka | ok then, get a powermac |
| 23:08:18 | doughecka | or a powerbook Ti |
| 23:08:20 | sussudio | why the fsck would i want any mac |
| 23:08:59 | doughecka | Why would I argue with you? |
| 23:09:02 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:09:11 | sussudio | i can ALREADY see the insides of my pc..... |
| 23:09:11 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/board.jpg |
| 23:09:31 | doughecka | yes |
| 23:09:38 | doughecka | and I feel sorry for you |
| 23:09:47 | doughecka | get a real case |
| 23:09:49 | doughecka | ;) |
| 23:09:51 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:09:51 | sussudio | bah |
| 23:09:55 | sussudio | i HAVE cases. |
| 23:10:00 | patlabor221 | best case if your working on things |
| 23:10:03 | doughecka | wow, I love RAIDS |
| 23:10:20 | sussudio | i think i'm building a fort out of cases |
| 23:10:22 | patlabor221 | doug what are you gonna do with POV ray? |
| 23:10:32 | patlabor221 | make me some skyboxes :) |
| 23:10:35 | doughecka | hm |
| 23:10:44 | captain_proton | hmm, we need new wordage |
| 23:10:46 | sussudio | patlabor221: you want a GM with that? |
| 23:10:49 | doughecka | I gonna see how fast I can get it to render |
| 23:11:02 | patlabor221 | a GM? |
| 23:11:03 | captain_proton | yes, skyboxes! |
| 23:11:08 | doughecka | skyboxes? |
| 23:11:24 | sussudio | patlabor221: yeah. sitting up high with a GM. camping. |
| 23:11:27 | patlabor221 | make us highresoulution skyboxes |
| 23:11:33 | captain_proton | hmm, bryce would probably be better for skyboxes |
| 23:11:46 | patlabor221 | the interface on bryce blows goats |
| 23:11:49 | doughecka | yes |
| 23:11:52 | patlabor221 | the best is teragen |
| 23:12:06 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yeah, but it renders pretty skies |
| 23:12:16 | patlabor221 | so does teragen |
| 23:12:19 | patlabor221 | and it's free |
| 23:12:28 | doughecka | wonders why the hub aint going at full speed |
| 23:12:33 | doughecka | teregen? |
| 23:12:37 | doughecka | windowS? |
| 23:12:40 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:12:40 | sussudio | doughecka: because it's a hub? |
| 23:12:41 | doughecka | googles |
| 23:12:45 | captain_proton | anybody up for getting their ass handed to them on the decks? |
| 23:12:48 | patlabor221 | you know tera, the name of our planet |
| 23:12:54 | patlabor221 | gen as in "to make" |
| 23:13:02 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:13:09 | captain_proton | or 'tera' as in 'terrain' |
| 23:13:33 | patlabor221 | witch was derived form tera |
| 23:14:01 | doughecka | great, latin now |
| 23:14:20 | patlabor221 | it's the techical name for the panet you are on |
| 23:14:36 | captain_proton | yeah, yeah |
| 23:14:52 | patlabor221 | Frank did all his skyboxes in teragen |
| 23:15:06 | patlabor221 | and there's even a plugin that makes the 6 images for you |
| 23:15:09 | patlabor221 | it's rather nice |
| 23:15:10 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:15:19 | captain_proton | wonders why the decks aren't up |
| 23:25:34 | captain_proton | hmm, sussudio does not lose gracefully |
| 23:25:42 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:25:47 | patlabor221 | most humans do not |
| 23:26:13 | captain_proton | this is true |
| 23:26:55 | sussudio | the truth hurts, doesnt it |
| 23:27:38 | captain_proton | no, not really |
| 23:27:38 | doughecka | lo jacques! |
| 23:28:01 | jacques | hi :-) |
| 23:28:09 | captain_proton | my jaw hurts a hell of a lot more than the truty |
| 23:28:12 | captain_proton | truth* |
| 23:31:56 | sussudio | trut |
| 23:35:56 | captain_proton | comments out all the soundmanager stuff to build bza |
| 23:36:48 | patlabor221 | or you could implement it in lin for me * wink * |
| 23:37:05 | patlabor221 | and it shows less menus then yours does |
| 23:37:37 | patlabor221 | builds "the ultimate anime CD of power" |
| 23:41:05 | captain_proton | your fades take too long :) |
| 23:41:11 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:41:16 | patlabor221 | I need to adjust them |
| 23:41:21 | patlabor221 | I did not set that yet |
| 23:41:29 | patlabor221 | but theres a function to do it :) |
| 23:41:44 | patlabor221 | I also need a "whoosh" sound |
| 23:43:40 | doughecka | "whoosh" eh? |
| 23:43:55 | patlabor221 | yes whoosh |
| 23:44:26 | patlabor221 | or more of a "kerwhosh" |
| 23:44:26 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:44:49 | doughecka | how 'bout a "Click" |
| 23:44:58 | patlabor221 | I have a click for the buttons |
| 23:44:59 | doughecka | or a "Klick" |
| 23:45:09 | patlabor221 | but I need a whosh for the panel transitions |
| 23:45:33 | doughecka | cool |
| 23:45:38 | doughecka | is there a new binary up? |
| 23:46:22 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 23:46:37 | patlabor221 | at leat not one that does more then the last one |
| 23:49:10 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:49:26 | patlabor221 | but soon young one, soon |
| 23:51:12 | captain_proton | considers portage of the sound manager |
| 23:51:51 | patlabor221 | I don't care what the back end is, even on windows |
| 23:52:01 | patlabor221 | I just used the API I knew |
| 23:52:18 | patlabor221 | I think the class is abstract enough |
| 23:52:34 | patlabor221 | and I don't need MP3 as loon as there is ogg to replace it |
| 23:53:24 | patlabor221 | but now I need to go away for a bit |
| 23:53:38 | patlabor221 | I shall return later |
