| 00:00:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | no rpm mess up and real clean and fast |
| 00:01:03 | BZFrank | wel,, rpms can be handy sometimes |
| 00:01:54 | BZFrank | but sometimes I hate the dependency hell, when installing stuff |
| 00:03:43 | Widget | BZFrank: http://www.artemisgames.com/pokemongerman.mp3 ;) |
| 00:05:13 | captain_proton | hmm, i think the swelling is starting to go down |
| 00:05:17 | BZFrank | AHHHHHHH! POKEMON! IN GERMAN!!! AAAHIII! :) |
| 00:05:53 | Widget | And if that's not bad enough, Patlabor221 also has this: http://www.artemisgames.com/Sailor_Moon(German_Techno_Remix).mp3 |
| 00:07:39 | BZFrank | needs an aspirin *eg* |
| 00:07:50 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:09:01 | Widget | How popular is/was Pokemon in Germany? |
| 00:09:48 | Widget | Mondstein flieg und sieg! Es ist soweit! |
| 00:09:58 | Widget | brbs. |
| 00:09:58 | BZFrank | widely! the three kids of my sister collected them like crazy |
| 00:11:23 | sussudio | i got some pokemon buttons whatever |
| 00:11:29 | sussudio | got em with groceries. |
| 00:11:32 | sussudio | dont even collect them |
| 00:11:42 | BZFrank | neither do I |
| 00:11:56 | Widget | BZFrank: I wonder if the German translations lag behind the Japanese ones, like the English ones doo. |
| 00:11:56 | BZFrank | collects PC and workstations :) |
| 00:12:12 | BZFrank | I am sure they do |
| 00:12:22 | Widget | The English season happened in Japan a season ago, |
| 00:13:05 | BZFrank | like almost anything, we also get the startrek episodes a year late or so |
| 00:14:22 | captain_proton | hmm, my sister is nice |
| 00:14:23 | sussudio | umm there's only 1 series running |
| 00:15:07 | BZFrank | boots linux - on his xbox! :) |
| 00:16:02 | BZFrank | guess I need another hostname... |
| 00:16:19 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:16:42 | captain_proton | dijkstra |
| 00:18:09 | BZFrank | mhmm, guess this has to wait it is just a 'boot from cd' - no hd install |
| 00:19:28 | captain_proton | you're modchipped? |
| 00:20:14 | BZFrank | sure, took me 2 hours to solder this little beast in |
| 00:20:28 | BZFrank | 29 wires |
| 00:20:47 | BZFrank | all for linux! :) |
| 00:21:11 | captain_proton | hmm, according to microsoft you're a criminal |
| 00:21:19 | BZFrank | according to me they are too |
| 00:21:38 | BZFrank | modchps are perfectly legal here |
| 00:22:58 | BZFrank | I can't speak for the US of A but there is no law in Germany against modifying by legally bought stuff |
| 00:23:25 | BZFrank | and I have not seens an EULA when I opened the XBOX ;) |
| 00:23:33 | captain_proton | i'm not sure about whether the DMCA could be interpreted as protecting hardware |
| 00:24:20 | BZFrank | the DMCA is an american law, it does not apply in this jurisdiction |
| 00:24:32 | captain_proton | yeah, i know |
| 00:24:48 | captain_proton | UCITA can definitely be interpreted to disallow modchips |
| 00:25:10 | captain_proton | but luckily most people seem to be realizing that its utter crap |
| 00:25:35 | captain_proton | and fritz whatshisname should be shot |
| 00:25:52 | BZFrank | hollingsworth, the puppet of the MPAA ;) |
| 00:26:20 | BZFrank | still we will get a new copyright law soon enough here |
| 00:26:51 | captain_proton | EU seems to be somewhat sensible in their copyright laws |
| 00:27:32 | BZFrank | it will disallow 'commercial' modifications, but still 'end users' may modify their equipment or even copy their music as long as it is for personal use |
| 00:28:09 | captain_proton | which is acceptable |
| 00:28:42 | captain_proton | it seems to me our government has completely forgotten about fair use |
| 00:29:08 | BZFrank | yep, problem is they makes laws for whoever pays them best, so it seems to me |
| 00:29:13 | Patlabor221 | did they pass theregod awful thing? |
| 00:30:19 | BZFrank | not yet I believe |
| 00:30:44 | Patlabor221 | well that's good |
| 00:30:51 | BZFrank | I keep looking for the USA because they tend to export their laws also to the old world - or at least try to do |
| 00:30:59 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:33:08 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: hmm, this macross plus music seems to be every conceivable genre |
| 00:33:20 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:33:29 | Patlabor221 | ms. kanno can go ALL over the place |
| 00:34:28 | Patlabor221 | you must watch it when you return to the land of bandwith |
| 00:34:43 | captain_proton | yes |
| 00:34:52 | captain_proton | thursday |
| 00:36:00 | bryjen | bzfquerylong 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 00:36:02 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 00:36:42 | captain_proton | ponders a requirements doc for jetstream |
| 00:53:42 | BZFrank | later folks! |
| 00:55:33 | Patlabor221 | see ya frank |
| 00:55:41 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: can you explain someting to me? |
| 00:55:54 | Patlabor221 | regarding pannel manager |
| 00:55:57 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: shoot |
| 00:56:39 | Patlabor221 | how are click events handaled that are not something that takes you somewhere else? |
| 00:56:49 | Patlabor221 | like a click that changes a seting? |
| 00:57:11 | captain_proton | right now they're not really |
| 00:57:15 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 00:57:23 | captain_proton | a widget has an 'action' string associated with the click |
| 00:57:30 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:57:34 | captain_proton | when its clicked, it calls panelManager->DoAction() and passes the string |
| 00:57:41 | captain_proton | then its up to the panel manager to do with it what it will |
| 00:57:48 | Patlabor221 | but we need something outside of the pannel manager to handal it |
| 00:57:54 | Patlabor221 | like a callback |
| 00:58:06 | Patlabor221 | or derive off a pannel manger in the "game" part |
| 00:58:14 | captain_proton | yeah, i need to clean up all the action stuff |
| 00:58:39 | Patlabor221 | and it would be nice to be able to make pannels in code, with no file |
| 00:59:33 | captain_proton | hmm, perhaps just add a method in the panel manager to add a named panel |
| 00:59:35 | Patlabor221 | high score lists, server lists and cush |
| 00:59:51 | Patlabor221 | yeah and get that pannel's class |
| 01:00:05 | captain_proton | panel's class? |
| 01:00:23 | Patlabor221 | get the panels class so you can add or change items on it |
| 01:00:31 | Patlabor221 | it's object |
| 01:00:31 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 01:00:36 | captain_proton | simple enuf |
| 01:00:55 | captain_proton | hmm, i feel so much better now that i've eaten something |
| 01:02:02 | Patlabor221 | that's good |
| 01:02:05 | Nicole3 | hi hi ppl |
| 01:02:09 | Patlabor221 | hello nichole3 |
| 01:02:33 | Nicole3 | what's up here? |
| 01:02:51 | Patlabor221 | not much |
| 01:03:01 | Nicole3 | that's cool |
| 01:03:48 | Patlabor221 | how about with you? |
| 01:04:02 | Patlabor221 | needs to find a new word for today |
| 01:04:03 | Nicole3 | takin an easy weekend |
| 01:04:08 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 01:04:09 | Nicole3 | yeah |
| 01:04:15 | Nicole3 | went biking this mornin though |
| 01:04:21 | Nicole3 | that was fun. |
| 01:04:33 | Patlabor221 | that it can be |
| 01:04:33 | captain_proton | ooh my turn to wordify |
| 01:04:39 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 01:04:40 | Patlabor221 | have at it skip |
| 01:06:21 | Patlabor221 | but what finger? |
| 01:06:26 | Nicole3 | have you seen the new Calvin and Hobbes server? |
| 01:06:33 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:06:41 | Nicole3 | on BZFlag |
| 01:06:46 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 01:06:48 | Nicole3 | it's really cool |
| 01:06:59 | Nicole3 | it's called the Calvin and Hobbes server |
| 01:07:05 | Nicole3 | go check it out, it's so awesome |
| 01:07:07 | captain_proton | goes to take a look |
| 01:07:20 | Nicole3 | i dunno if it's up right now |
| 01:07:25 | Nicole3 | but i liked it a lot |
| 01:07:29 | captain_proton | hmm, i can't get a server list |
| 01:07:33 | captain_proton | my dns is screwed up |
| 01:07:43 | Nicole3 | that sucks |
| 01:07:49 | Patlabor221 | I realy do need to put 1.7 back on here |
| 01:08:26 | Nicole3 | lol |
| 01:08:44 | Nicole3 | i played this afternoon and discovered how out of it i am |
| 01:10:07 | captain_proton | doesn't even want to think how bad he is right now |
| 01:10:17 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 01:10:22 | Nicole3 | yeah |
| 01:10:42 | Patlabor221 | dosn't seem to be up |
| 01:10:57 | Nicole3 | that's too bad |
| 01:11:49 | captain_proton | 'Myung Theme Instrumental' rocks my world |
| 01:12:05 | Patlabor221 | that is a good one |
| 01:12:23 | Patlabor221 | how did you get that zip |
| 01:12:30 | Patlabor221 | on a dialup? |
| 01:12:49 | captain_proton | overnight |
| 01:12:53 | Patlabor221 | oft |
| 01:13:10 | captain_proton | first i zipped it down to a server |
| 01:14:38 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 01:16:06 | Nicole3 | hmmm..... |
| 01:16:27 | Nicole3 | need to find a good song to listen to...... |
| 01:19:32 | Patlabor221 | well dont' ask widget or she will make you listen to the pokemon theme song in german |
| 01:19:44 | Patlabor221 | and don't ask me cus all I have is crap |
| 01:19:45 | Nicole3 | dear god no! |
| 01:21:04 | Patlabor221 | it was horible |
| 01:21:11 | Nicole3 | i bet |
| 01:21:12 | captain_proton | it was very horrible |
| 01:21:14 | Nicole3 | i'm sorry |
| 01:21:17 | Patlabor221 | made the speakers catch fire |
| 01:21:18 | captain_proton | scared my sister to near-death |
| 01:21:38 | Patlabor221 | and what's worse was that I went and found it for her |
| 01:22:08 | Nicole3 | isn't Widget a he? |
| 01:22:22 | Patlabor221 | I think not |
| 01:22:26 | Nicole3 | er......... |
| 01:22:57 | Patlabor221 | has referd to herself as "she" and "herself" |
| 01:23:05 | Patlabor221 | thatn that's freaky |
| 01:23:21 | Nicole3 | hmmm....... |
| 01:23:32 | Nicole3 | ask er....it |
| 01:24:04 | Nicole3 | mabe it was a typo? |
| 01:24:10 | Patlabor221 | liek 15 times |
| 01:24:18 | Nicole3 | hmmmmmm.......... |
| 01:24:35 | Patlabor221 | dmaned andrdgos names |
| 01:24:47 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 01:25:18 | Patlabor221 | At least I put my real name i the thing for a whois |
| 01:26:19 | Patlabor221 | maybe there is 2 of them |
| 01:26:28 | Patlabor221 | like the wonder twins or something |
| 01:27:06 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 01:27:08 | Nicole3 | mabe.... |
| 01:27:15 | Nicole3 | think of the possiblities ;-) |
| 01:27:56 | Patlabor221 | I know s/he is 15 |
| 01:28:39 | Nicole3 | can't be |
| 01:28:48 | Patlabor221 | starts adding virtual functions to the pannel manager |
| 01:29:05 | Patlabor221 | said so him/herself |
| 01:29:13 | Nicole3 | that must have been someone pretending to be Widget |
| 01:29:24 | Patlabor221 | on multiple ocasions |
| 01:29:31 | Nicole3 | very possible |
| 01:29:37 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 01:29:55 | Nicole3 | very |
| 01:30:12 | Patlabor221 | I know s/he's in school, we helped with a project |
| 01:30:34 | Patlabor221 | and there was a photo shown at one point |
| 01:30:54 | captain_proton | goes to lay down for a while to try to shake this fever |
| 01:51:36 | Patlabor221 | goes off to fix things |
| 02:16:22 | Nicole3 | everyone fall asleep? |
| 02:17:10 | sussudio | ... |
| 02:17:18 | sussudio | There once was a fat admin called lilo |
| 02:17:19 | sussudio | who lives in a unused missle silo |
| 02:17:19 | sussudio | he talks about crap on O P N |
| 02:17:20 | sussudio | comes across with an IQ of 10 |
| 02:17:21 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 02:17:22 | sussudio | He begs in the street |
| 02:17:23 | sussudio | but still feels elite |
| 02:17:26 | sussudio | that stinky fat admin called lilo |
| 02:17:38 | Nicole3 | ok then |
| 02:26:43 | sussudio | god.damned. |
| 02:26:55 | sussudio | bzflag crashed again while connecing to a server |
| 02:32:34 | bryjen | bzfquery 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 02:32:35 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 02:38:16 | sussudio | bzfquery 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 02:38:17 | bzbot | Green: 1 players, score: 0 | Blue: 1 players, score: 0 | |
| 02:40:05 | captain_proton | http://cgi.ebay.com@195.92.253.3/~ben/lilo/ebay.html |
| 02:40:58 | sussudio | hm? |
| 02:55:57 | Nicole3 | now i'm asleep |
| 02:55:59 | Nicole3 | jeez........ |
| 03:22:45 | Widget | Stop changing the topic each time you enter!!!! |
| 03:22:55 | Patlabor221 | not every time |
| 03:23:10 | Patlabor221 | and this time I waited like 7min. |
| 03:23:18 | Patlabor221 | and dougs URL was bad |
| 03:23:41 | Widget | captain_proton: You're evil. |
| 03:23:46 | Widget | captain_proton: That "ebay" site. |
| 03:23:52 | Patlabor221 | why is he evil? |
| 03:24:29 | Patlabor221 | was it the "i will kick your ass" one? |
| 03:24:50 | Widget | http://cgi.ebay.com@195.92.253.3/~ben/lilo/ebay.html |
| 03:25:04 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 03:25:28 | Patlabor221 | and it had a reserve too |
| 03:25:36 | Widget | http://cgi.ebay.com@195.92.253.3/~ben/lilo/ebay.html |
| 03:25:38 | Widget | Whoops. |
| 03:25:40 | Widget | High bid: |
| 03:25:45 | Widget | william_gates |
| 03:26:08 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's nice how ebay will rerout a request for you |
| 03:26:41 | Patlabor221 | hey no shiping |
| 03:26:45 | Patlabor221 | that's nice |
| 03:26:50 | Patlabor221 | and no tax |
| 03:29:12 | Patlabor221 | need beverage |
| 03:30:01 | Widget | Patlabor221: Are you thinking of placing a bid? |
| 03:30:15 | Patlabor221 | no don't need any kids |
| 03:30:15 | Widget | Patlabor221: The other bidders seem to have deep pockets. |
| 03:30:29 | Widget | But the older one can hack Linux kernels! |
| 03:30:35 | Patlabor221 | yes but I know how to haxor e-bay |
| 03:30:47 | Patlabor221 | what do I need a hacked up lin kernal for |
| 03:30:59 | Patlabor221 | day to day is done on windows |
| 03:31:19 | Patlabor221 | and if for some inane reason I wanted a hacked up kernal, then there is cap |
| 03:31:47 | Widget | But his daughter can probably do it without messing up glibc. |
| 03:32:06 | Patlabor221 | cap didn't mess up GlibC |
| 03:32:10 | Patlabor221 | it was something else |
| 03:32:12 | Patlabor221 | in the code |
| 03:32:40 | Widget | And who told you that? captain_proton? ;) |
| 03:32:50 | Patlabor221 | seems lin SDL can't hack the atribue settings I was calling |
| 03:32:57 | Patlabor221 | no I tried it here too |
| 03:53:19 | captain_proton | Widget: it was trying to init textures when GL wasn't initialized, which causes problems |
| 03:53:57 | captain_proton | puts on his ice-hood |
| 03:54:11 | Widget | captain_proton: How is your jaw? |
| 03:54:38 | captain_proton | Widget: hmm, in pain, swollen, and now bruised |
| 03:54:50 | Patlabor221 | it will subside |
| 03:54:51 | Widget | :( Why bruised? |
| 03:55:00 | Patlabor221 | proalby internal bleeding |
| 03:55:15 | captain_proton | yep |
| 03:55:32 | Patlabor221 | should take a bout a week iirc |
| 03:55:36 | captain_proton | thats what their little post-op card blames it on anyhoo |
| 03:56:00 | Patlabor221 | you know they were just punching you while you were out right |
| 03:56:24 | captain_proton | i don't bruise that much from punching ;) |
| 03:56:33 | Patlabor221 | "and that's for making us fill out your crappy insureance forms" |
| 03:56:41 | Patlabor221 | ok baseball bat |
| 03:56:56 | captain_proton | hmm, yes, that might do the trick |
| 03:57:09 | Patlabor221 | boot to the head |
| 03:58:01 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 03:58:15 | captain_proton | hmm, i've got that mp3 lying around somewhere |
| 03:58:31 | Widget | captain_proton: The perfect solution is a game of go. |
| 03:59:20 | Patlabor221 | you too shall be honored to learn a lesson |
| 03:59:21 | captain_proton | no, the perfect solution is the khan dvd my mom should be buying for me tomorrow ;) |
| 04:01:22 | captain_proton | ahh, tae kwon leap, the truest of the martial arts |
| 04:01:31 | Widget | ibot: x de en Ich will der allerbeste sein. |
| 04:01:32 | | Widget: I want to be the very best. |
| 04:02:08 | Widget | ibot: x de en wie keiner vor mir war. |
| 04:02:11 | | Widget: as none was before me. |
| 04:02:12 | Widget | That no one ever was.... |
| 04:02:17 | Widget | Aha! |
| 04:02:18 | Patlabor221 | is there any reason you don't typedef your vectors? |
| 04:02:23 | Widget | A difference from the English version! |
| 04:02:28 | Widget | captain_proton doesn't like typedef. |
| 04:02:36 | captain_proton | wow, i don't think i've listened to this since i stopped hanging out in #martial |
| 04:02:44 | Patlabor221 | yeah well I get sick of typing std::vector<CBaseUIPanel*> |
| 04:02:52 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: hmm, i copypaste |
| 04:02:59 | Patlabor221 | I typedef |
| 04:03:08 | Patlabor221 | that way if I have to cange it, I hit it once |
| 04:03:15 | captain_proton | feel free to typedef, makes no difference to me |
| 04:03:18 | Patlabor221 | meantance an all that |
| 04:03:22 | Patlabor221 | I think I shall |
| 04:03:26 | captain_proton | :%s/CBaseUIPanel/NewName/g |
| 04:03:46 | Patlabor221 | I just make the pannel manager virtualised |
| 04:04:05 | Patlabor221 | and added a LoadOne to it and the Texture manager |
| 04:04:10 | captain_proton | LoadOne? |
| 04:05:06 | Widget | How do I find my monitor resolution in Pixels/millimetre? |
| 04:05:11 | Widget | Or Pixels/inch, for that matter. |
| 04:05:26 | captain_proton | hmm, xvidtune should tell ya |
| 04:05:54 | captain_proton | alternatively, measure the viewable size and divice |
| 04:05:55 | Patlabor221 | yeah LoadOne takes a standard path and will just load one panel or texture |
| 04:05:56 | captain_proton | divide* |
| 04:06:08 | Widget | captain_proton: Where does it tell you in xvidtune? |
| 04:06:09 | Patlabor221 | not an entire folder |
| 04:06:44 | captain_proton | hmm, it doesn't |
| 04:07:08 | captain_proton | why does Widget need to know this? |
| 04:07:27 | Widget | captain_proton: For GIMP. |
| 04:08:36 | captain_proton | ahh, just use the default 72 |
| 04:08:54 | captain_proton | my sister and i both gave my dad a death-glare today :) |
| 04:09:32 | captain_proton | he suggested that tomorrow we could go out to breakfast because "scrambled eggs are soft" |
| 04:09:51 | Patlabor221 | you 2 don't want to be going out. |
| 04:10:03 | captain_proton | mustof shrunk about 3 inches with the stares he got |
| 04:10:20 | Patlabor221 | there now we have a manual way to add a panel |
| 04:10:38 | captain_proton | yay |
| 04:11:19 | captain_proton | oh, just so you're aware |
| 04:11:35 | captain_proton | as i port libs, the API may change ever-so-slightly, due to the fact that i fix your speeling errors |
| 04:11:48 | Patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 04:12:02 | captain_proton | like 'pannel' ;) |
| 04:12:08 | Patlabor221 | that's why I allways just grab yours and make changes to it |
| 04:12:18 | Patlabor221 | so I pick up your fixes |
| 04:12:31 | Patlabor221 | I'm just gonna dich my old ones |
| 04:12:36 | Patlabor221 | and use these |
| 04:12:42 | captain_proton | coo,coo |
| 04:12:45 | Patlabor221 | then the world won't laugh at me |
| 04:13:54 | Patlabor221 | mmmmmmmm better context senstive coloring :):) |
| 04:14:03 | Patlabor221 | visual assist rocks |
| 04:15:02 | Widget | Ooh, today's chapter 114 of Hikaru no Go was good. |
| 04:15:31 | Patlabor221 | looks rather girly to me |
| 04:15:46 | Patlabor221 | wasn't able to get into it |
| 04:15:54 | Widget | You haven't even read it!!! |
| 04:16:03 | Patlabor221 | I tired to |
| 04:16:07 | Widget | It's above you. :P |
| 04:16:08 | Patlabor221 | but I was also tired |
| 04:16:23 | Widget | It gets much better after the first chapter. |
| 04:16:44 | Patlabor221 | they told me that about the wheel of time books to |
| 04:17:01 | Widget | But this one actually DOES get better! |
| 04:17:04 | Patlabor221 | all the covers remind me of kirro kanno |
| 04:17:22 | Widget | What's a kirro kanno? |
| 04:17:26 | Patlabor221 | an anime |
| 04:17:36 | Patlabor221 | I porlaby spelled it wrong |
| 04:17:53 | Patlabor221 | translates to "he said/ she said" |
| 04:17:58 | Patlabor221 | or something like that |
| 04:18:15 | Widget | captain_proton watched some of the anime! |
| 04:18:19 | Widget | So it must be good! |
| 04:18:23 | Patlabor221 | had a definate lack of missles |
| 04:18:36 | Widget | Missiles? Yuk. |
| 04:18:50 | Widget | Manga with missiles have no plot. |
| 04:18:57 | Patlabor221 | everything in anime can be solved with a rocket launcher |
| 04:19:04 | Patlabor221 | may not be the best solution |
| 04:19:09 | Patlabor221 | but it gets solved |
| 04:19:20 | Widget | But this is manga, not anime! |
| 04:19:27 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:19:36 | Patlabor221 | in manga you have to use railguns |
| 04:19:38 | captain_proton | the anime of hokaru no go is good |
| 04:19:43 | captain_proton | hikaru* |
| 04:19:55 | captain_proton | i have a religious aversion to manga |
| 04:20:02 | Patlabor221 | hmmm X had no missles or railguns and I liked that |
| 04:20:15 | Widget | Patlabor221: See? Told you! |
| 04:20:25 | Patlabor221 | ohh wait it had swords |
| 04:20:38 | Patlabor221 | swords are still the coolest weapon |
| 04:21:17 | Patlabor221 | actualy my favorate anime donsn't even have guns in it |
| 04:21:29 | Widget | captain_proton: Why do you not like manga? |
| 04:21:40 | captain_proton | Widget: its evil |
| 04:21:51 | Widget | captain_proton: Elaborate. |
| 04:21:52 | captain_proton | hmm, you get to see my snood |
| 04:21:57 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.flatirons.org/snood.jpg |
| 04:22:15 | Patlabor221 | wow man you are jacked up |
| 04:22:17 | Widget | What is a snood? |
| 04:22:26 | captain_proton | looks riduculoso |
| 04:22:55 | Patlabor221 | looks like you forgot to pay your loan shark |
| 04:23:13 | Widget | Snood: The fillet which binds the hair of a young unmarried woman, and is emblematic of her maiden character. [Scot.], A short line (often of horsehair) connecting a fishing line with the hook; a snell; a leader. |
| 04:23:39 | captain_proton | this ice pack is shaped like a snood |
| 04:23:55 | Widget | Ah. |
| 04:24:16 | Widget | You're glaring at the camera too. |
| 04:24:20 | Patlabor221 | widget I can't realy say I only like things with missles tho. I've been reading chobits and it 's realy good |
| 04:24:35 | Widget | Patlabor221: Read Hikaru No Go! |
| 04:24:56 | captain_proton | Widget: i'm glaring at everything right now |
| 04:25:01 | Patlabor221 | Widget: need it in dead tree format |
| 04:25:25 | Widget | Patlabor221: http://www.mangazero.com/ |
| 04:25:48 | Patlabor221 | ohh I'll check for it at the anime cart tomrow |
| 04:26:07 | Widget | Anime cart? |
| 04:26:21 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 04:26:26 | Patlabor221 | cart of anime |
| 04:26:28 | Patlabor221 | at the mall |
| 04:26:34 | Widget | I doubt they will have it. |
| 04:26:39 | Patlabor221 | he has everything |
| 04:26:52 | Widget | He won't have Hikaru no Go. |
| 04:26:58 | Patlabor221 | do not doubt the cart guy |
| 04:27:05 | Patlabor221 | so he can get it |
| 04:27:12 | Widget | He can't. |
| 04:27:21 | Patlabor221 | and why is that? |
| 04:27:28 | captain_proton | hmm, getting dehydrated |
| 04:27:29 | Widget | I'll bet you whatever you wish. |
| 04:27:35 | captain_proton | goes off to get a big glass of water |
| 04:27:43 | Widget | Knowing that should I lose, it would be most inconvenient for you to force payment. |
| 04:27:52 | Patlabor221 | well I'm not gonna bet |
| 04:27:56 | Patlabor221 | so just tell me |
| 04:28:16 | Patlabor221 | is it not out yet? |
| 04:28:17 | Widget | It's very rare in the English speaking world. |
| 04:28:32 | Widget | It is out yet! You can order it from http://www.mangazero.com/ |
| 04:28:39 | Patlabor221 | well ether him or the full blown anime store can get it |
| 04:28:47 | Widget | We shall see. |
| 04:29:06 | Patlabor221 | if its that hard to get then it must not be goog |
| 04:29:09 | Patlabor221 | good |
| 04:29:18 | Patlabor221 | if it was that good why is it not everwhere? |
| 04:29:31 | Patlabor221 | like cowboy beebop or love hina? |
| 04:29:38 | Patlabor221 | that stuff is everywhere |
| 04:29:52 | Patlabor221 | or did a crap company pick up the US distro right? |
| 04:30:16 | captain_proton | hikaru no go hasn't been licensed yet |
| 04:30:24 | Widget | There is no US distro yet. |
| 04:30:27 | Patlabor221 | then who translated it? |
| 04:30:31 | Widget | Hopefully, Shonen Jump will pick it up! |
| 04:30:50 | captain_proton | all the anime stuff are fansubs |
| 04:30:55 | Widget | captain_proton: http://195.92.253.3/~ben/lilo/ <<---- This website you found is so cruel. |
| 04:31:28 | Patlabor221 | that was soo funny |
| 04:31:36 | Patlabor221 | sold his house to get 4 supercomputers |
| 04:31:43 | Patlabor221 | now lives in the boxes |
| 04:31:56 | Widget | I know. |
| 04:32:09 | Widget | That's exceeding the bounds of good taste. |
| 04:32:20 | Patlabor221 | so if it's fansub who did the english layout and printing? |
| 04:32:22 | captain_proton | Widget: its a valid parody. lilo needs to get a job, instead of expecting people to donate money for him to ircop all day |
| 04:32:34 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: fansubs on the anime. i don't touch the manga stuff |
| 04:32:38 | Widget | Patlabor221: There is no printed English version. |
| 04:32:45 | Widget | captain_proton: I know, but it needn't be so cruel. |
| 04:33:04 | Patlabor221 | sure it does, it's a parody. |
| 04:33:17 | Patlabor221 | Widget: no dead tree format. bahh |
| 04:33:24 | Patlabor221 | maga is meant to be read siting outside |
| 04:33:35 | Patlabor221 | or on at a buss stop |
| 04:33:48 | Widget | Patlabor221: Bring a laptop. |
| 04:33:49 | Patlabor221 | not infront of the pasty white boy machine |
| 04:34:28 | Patlabor221 | I need to get 5 star stories in pring too |
| 04:37:21 | Patlabor221 | and rayearth 3 |
| 04:37:38 | captain_proton | goes to lay down for a bit |
| 04:37:58 | Patlabor221 | things it's time for bed |
| 04:38:13 | Patlabor221 | have to help my friend move tomorow |
| 04:38:17 | Patlabor221 | see ya all |
| 04:38:19 | Patlabor221 | get better cap |
| 04:38:22 | Widget | Bye, Patlabor221. |
| 04:38:23 | Widget | Bye, captain_proton. |
| 04:38:29 | Widget | captain_proton: Good luck on your jaw. |
| 04:57:03 | Widget | It's fun to play the Estonian and Finnish anthems at the same time, since they have the same tune.- |
| 05:04:25 | Widget | is easily amused. |
| 05:31:07 | Widget | Hm... [BZ]Ruudi should show up soon. |
| 05:32:47 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:33:05 | captain_proton | aside from my cheeks being swelled up like nobody's business, it appears to be healing fairly well |
| 05:33:14 | Widget | Yay. :) |
| 05:33:18 | Widget | You'll be better by Monday? |
| 05:33:45 | captain_proton | i hope so |
| 05:34:01 | Widget | Why did you have to have your wisdom teeth removed? |
| 05:35:57 | captain_proton | i had to have them removed because the way they were growing they would take out my 2nd molars |
| 05:36:30 | Widget | Ugh.. good luck on your recovery. |
| 05:37:30 | Widget | Hm.... Estonian news anchors stutter a lot. |
| 05:38:51 | captain_proton | ... why are you watching estonian news? |
| 05:39:33 | Widget | I'm listening to it. |
| 05:39:37 | Widget | I happened to get it on radio. |
| 05:39:44 | captain_proton | my question is still valid |
| 05:40:13 | Widget | Because nothing good is on any shortwave band. |
| 05:44:11 | Widget | Doesn't everybody listen to Estonian radio every once in a while? |
| 05:44:30 | captain_proton | no |
| 05:44:39 | captain_proton | i have a hard time believing there's nothing good on shortwave |
| 05:45:01 | Widget | Well, nothing good that isn't horribly staticky. |
| 05:45:27 | Widget | Radio Kuku is suprisingly clear. |
| 05:46:21 | captain_proton | you don't get any good propaganda stations there? |
| 05:47:14 | Widget | Radio China stopped broadcasting shortwave. :( |
| 05:47:34 | Widget | Before we used to get it very clear.. many of the tourists used to listen to it. |
| 05:47:48 | captain_proton | don't get anything from the middle east? |
| 05:48:01 | Widget | Nothing recognisable as such. |
| 05:48:44 | Widget | If I can't get anything from Europe, I probably won't be able to get anything from the Middle East. |
| 05:50:22 | Widget | Wow! |
| 05:50:25 | Widget | They have something in English! |
| 05:50:35 | Widget | A selection from some movie it sounds like. |
| 05:50:52 | captain_proton | hmm, true |
| 05:51:08 | Widget | And English music. |
| 05:51:11 | captain_proton | we can get pretty clear reception on stuff from the middle east - just good bouncing i suppose |
| 05:51:22 | Widget | Ooh, that would be interesting. |
| 05:51:37 | Widget | It would be even funnier to be able to understand it. |
| 05:52:01 | Widget | Is it in Arabic or Farsi? |
| 05:52:03 | Widget | Or Hebrew? |
| 05:52:42 | Widget | Moohahahaha! The Estonians cannot resist the cultural imperialism of the English speaking world! |
| 05:53:18 | captain_proton | hmm, i think its mostly farsi |
| 05:53:26 | captain_proton | could be arabic |
| 05:53:29 | captain_proton | not hebrew |
| 05:53:34 | Widget | How can you tell? |
| 05:54:01 | Widget | Hm.. this is an add for Riverdance, it seems.... it's playing in the background, and he keeps referring to Riverdance. |
| 05:54:09 | Widget | With accent on the first syllable. RIverdance. |
| 05:54:24 | Widget | Oh, we got a Farsi programme here some time ago... it was all about movies though. |
| 05:58:19 | Widget | hihihi, pragma. |
| 05:59:36 | Widget | Hm... they're playing La Marseillaise. |
| 05:59:40 | Widget | I wonder why. |
| 06:00:06 | Widget | Oh! They mentioned Napoleon Bonaparte. |
| 06:00:12 | Widget | Hm... I should have something better to do. |
| 06:00:24 | Widget | Hm... I left my book in the car... but I'll probably stub my toe in the dark or something. |
| 06:00:58 | Widget | Hm... he said "Liberté, égalité fraternité." |
| 06:03:06 | Widget | I wish Ruudi were here to translate. |
| 06:08:16 | Widget | hihihi, MrApathyCream! |
| 06:23:30 | captain_proton | well, seeing as i'm running a fever and its only getting worse, i'm off to bed |
| 06:24:15 | Widget | Wow... |
| 06:24:17 | Widget | captain_proton, going to bed. |
| 06:24:19 | Widget | Goodnight, captain_proton. |
| 06:24:24 | Widget | Hope it gets better. |
| 06:43:13 | corndawg | hi hi hi |
| 06:43:35 | corndawg | does a happy dance! finally got my geforce 4 video card workin |
| 06:44:34 | Widget | Oooooooh. |
| 06:44:37 | Widget | Lucky. :P |
| 06:45:29 | corndawg | hell yea |
| 06:45:37 | corndawg | lol bzflag has a totally new look |
| 06:45:48 | Widget | What did you have before? |
| 06:45:56 | corndawg | hah i810 crap |
| 06:54:29 | corndawg | lol that was fun... tuxracer flys now |
| 06:54:52 | Widget | Oooooh. |
| 06:54:54 | Widget | I need to get it. |
| 06:58:10 | corndawg | heh |
| 06:58:21 | corndawg | Widget: its a 64meg vid card |
| 06:58:33 | Widget | Sigh... :( |
| 06:58:36 | Widget | Don't rub it in! |
| 06:58:40 | corndawg | lol |
| 10:36:09 | strayer | Chestal: ...bist grad da? |
| 10:38:20 | Chestal | ja |
| 10:40:16 | strayer | hast meine message gestern bekommen?....bzflag/league........hat nähmlich ne fehlermeldung angezeigt.... |
| 10:43:59 | Chestal | ja, kam aber an |
| 10:44:14 | strayer | ok...das wollt ich bloss wissen |
| 10:44:27 | Chestal | was fürn Fehler kam denn? |
| 10:46:40 | strayer | naja...weniger ein Fehler....hab angefangen die mail zu schreib...mußte dann weg...und als ich se dann abgeschickt hab, war ich ausgeloggt...(Fehler war einfach einfacher zu sagen als das was ich eben schrieb...bin halt faul...) |
| 10:46:47 | Chestal | ach so, das kenn ich |
| 10:47:20 | strayer | :) |
| 10:48:14 | Chestal | zu deiner Mail: an sich hast du recht, nur macht das so ein Turnier halt noch aufwendiger. Kann mich im Moment eh nur nebenher drum kümmern |
| 10:48:57 | strayer | ja, aber ist doch doof, aus zweierlei Hinsicht.... |
| 10:49:38 | strayer | wenn gut gegen gut und schlecht gegen schlecht spielt, dann können gute teams schon zu anfang rausfliegen |
| 10:49:49 | Chestal | ne, gerade das passiert ja nciht |
| 10:49:55 | strayer | ? |
| 10:49:57 | Chestal | sondern es wird gut eggen schlecht sein in der ersten Runde |
| 10:50:08 | Chestal | wenn man ein normales TUrniersystem verwendet mit gesetzten Teams |
| 10:50:22 | strayer | toll...dann sind alle schlechteren Team nur zum Rauswerfen da...ein spiel...toll |
| 10:50:23 | Chestal | da spielt der erste gegen den letzuten etc. |
| 10:50:32 | Chestal | ist halt normales Turniervorgehen |
| 10:51:14 | strayer | ich fände es aber fies... |
| 10:51:23 | Chestal | naaj, das Gegenteil ist aber auch sinnlos |
| 10:51:32 | strayer | stimmt leider auch |
| 10:51:38 | Chestal | man kanns natuerlich rein zufällgi machen |
| 10:51:49 | Chestal | oder halt Minigruppen, wie du vorschlaegst, nur erhoeht das die ANazhl der SPiele drastisch |
| 10:52:05 | strayer | jep....dauert dann eben länger |
| 10:52:18 | Chestal | ich seh halt einfach das Problem, die Leute zusammenzukriegen |
| 10:52:47 | Chestal | im Moment tut sich n der LIga ja nicht mehr viel |
| 10:52:58 | strayer | hm...ja....stimmt |
| 10:53:11 | strayer | ziemlich wenige Spiele zur Zeit |
| 10:53:31 | MrCooper | Sommerloch? |
| 10:53:50 | strayer | hm...aber so viele haben momentan eh keinen Urlaub |
| 10:53:51 | Chestal | z.T: wohl schon |
| 10:54:00 | pnm | afternoon |
| 10:54:11 | Chestal | hi pnm |
| 10:54:29 | strayer | hi |
| 10:56:15 | Chestal | well, I'm off for now, later |
| 10:56:30 | pnm | later |
| 10:56:32 | MrCooper | cya |
| 10:56:59 | strayer | bye C |
| 11:45:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 11:46:00 | strayer | hi [BZ]Ruudi |
| 11:46:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | lets take some action in ducati? |
| 11:47:02 | strayer | if U want....which one? |
| 11:47:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | ctf |
| 11:47:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | i'm there |
| 11:47:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | red one |
| 11:47:45 | strayer | ok |
| 14:21:17 | Nicole3 | hi ppl |
| 14:29:42 | Nicole3 | or not........ |
| 14:34:22 | Chestal | hi Nicole |
| 14:34:27 | Nicole3 | hola |
| 14:34:44 | Chestal | what's new? |
| 14:34:51 | Nicole3 | not much |
| 14:34:53 | Nicole3 | too early |
| 14:34:54 | Nicole3 | though |
| 14:38:16 | Chestal | time for tea |
| 14:55:09 | Nicole3_ | grr, stupid phone |
| 14:55:13 | Nicole3_ | now there is two of me jeez |
| 14:57:23 | Nicole3_ | thatz good |
| 15:06:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 15:52:04 | Cell_prog_insect | haa |
| 16:14:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | any tournamets today? |
| 16:15:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 16:15:33 | Fanta | hi |
| 16:15:52 | Fanta | any matches today ? |
| 16:19:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno |
| 16:19:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | just asked it before you stepped in here |
| 16:23:11 | strayer | i think nothing will happen before 19.00 UTC or so... |
| 16:25:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah 19 utc at today seems kind of regular |
| 16:36:26 | ^jh | widget? |
| 16:36:40 | Chestal | hi jh |
| 16:36:44 | ^jh | hi |
| 16:36:54 | ^jh | games tonight? |
| 16:37:16 | Chestal | hmm, maybe |
| 16:37:22 | Chestal | soem frogs want to be here later |
| 16:37:28 | ^jh | frogs |
| 16:37:29 | ^jh | ok |
| 16:37:36 | Chestal | probably no match for bz |
| 16:37:42 | Chestal | zees would be more interesting |
| 16:37:57 | ^jh | yeah will they be here? |
| 16:38:06 | Chestal | no idea, fanta was here some minutes ago |
| 16:38:12 | ^jh | i see |
| 16:38:39 | Fanta | i'm still here :) |
| 16:38:50 | ^jh | are u able to play tonight? |
| 16:39:27 | Fanta | don't know. talked with 339 and ajax this week. maybe they'll be here soon |
| 16:39:36 | ^jh | ok |
| 16:39:39 | Chestal | bezee still on holiday? |
| 16:39:59 | Fanta | yes still next week |
| 16:40:18 | Risolino | damn... |
| 16:40:25 | Risolino | i want bzflag on freebsd!! |
| 16:40:37 | Chestal | I wonder where Comanche has been, he was goign on a 3 week vacation, but that must have been 6 weeks ago |
| 16:40:46 | ^jh | hehe |
| 16:46:45 | [TeA|TrEE] | huhu |
| 16:57:14 | Widget | ^jh: hi |
| 17:00:01 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: I'm listening to Raadio Kuku. It's very... interesting. |
| 17:00:21 | ^jh | ic |
| 17:00:28 | ^jh | finnish radio? |
| 17:00:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | hehee |
| 17:00:40 | ^jh | or german? |
| 17:00:52 | ^jh | or what |
| 17:01:01 | Widget | Estonian. |
| 17:01:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | kuku radio in estonia i dare to listen only one radio and even that when i'm not in home :P |
| 17:01:09 | ^jh | shall we play tonight? |
| 17:01:12 | Widget | A lot of the songs are in English. |
| 17:01:16 | Widget | I might have to go somewhere. |
| 17:01:23 | [BZ]Ruudi | well most of pop in english |
| 17:01:30 | ^jh | oh really |
| 17:01:30 | Widget | And there was one thing in French. |
| 17:01:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | europe pop |
| 17:01:42 | ^jh | who else is going to be here? |
| 17:01:43 | Widget | ^jh: If we have a planned match, I can stay. |
| 17:01:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | but i'ts all crap as i put it :P |
| 17:01:54 | ^jh | no plans so far |
| 17:02:06 | ^jh | zeebrothers is a maybe |
| 17:02:12 | Widget | And then there was a programme with La Marseillaise playing in the background, and he mentioned "Napoleon Bonaparte" a lot, and "Corsica". Then there was an ad about Riverdance. |
| 17:02:15 | Widget | BRB. |
| 17:02:15 | ^jh | big maybe |
| 17:02:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah riverdance is here now |
| 17:04:02 | bzgirl | hi |
| 17:04:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | we will have a match today? |
| 17:04:32 | ^jh | not sure yet |
| 17:04:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | i like that sunday bzday 19utc all come to gether here :) |
| 17:04:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | i got time about after one hour or so |
| 17:05:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | i'm cookin |
| 17:05:04 | ^jh | frogs and zbrothers might be here |
| 17:05:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | well frogs would be nice so as zee's |
| 17:05:24 | ^jh | yes |
| 17:20:58 | Widget | returneth. |
| 17:23:15 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: 90% of your pop songs seem to be in English. |
| 17:23:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | Widget by the way how do you like estonin sounding? |
| 17:23:26 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: And another 5% in French. |
| 17:23:36 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: It sounds... unusual. :) |
| 17:23:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | heh depends abotu radio |
| 17:23:44 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: I can't understand a word. |
| 17:23:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | hehee :) |
| 17:23:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | there is estonian songs only radio |
| 17:24:06 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: With most European languages (except Finnish and Hungarian) you can understand some stuff. |
| 17:24:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | there is classical and about 15 more stations or so |
| 17:24:12 | Widget | It sounds a lot like radio here. |
| 17:24:19 | Widget | The news, etc. |
| 17:24:37 | Widget | Only the news anchors seem to speak faster and say "ummm" sometimes. |
| 17:24:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | well here is lot of local radios on saaremaa there is own radio |
| 17:24:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | and so |
| 17:24:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | hehee :) |
| 17:25:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | umm is good international world :P |
| 17:25:20 | Widget | Up with English cultural imperialism! ;) |
| 17:25:37 | Widget | Hm... we should get Estonian songs here. |
| 17:26:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | estonian pop is worst even uf you dont understand it |
| 17:26:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | but we got some real classical music heros here |
| 17:26:27 | [BZ]Ruudi | Pärt, Erki-Sven Tüür and so on |
| 17:26:50 | ^jh | any sign of zees or forgs? |
| 17:26:53 | ^jh | frogs |
| 17:27:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | and lot of orchestra directors (dunno the word those guys who whipe with stick) come from estonia |
| 17:27:13 | Widget | We can't play the frogs again. |
| 17:27:18 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Conductors. |
| 17:27:28 | ^jh | why is that? |
| 17:27:36 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: http://www.online.ee/realaudio/kuku.ram |
| 17:27:38 | ^jh | we have played moles about 10 times |
| 17:27:42 | Widget | ^jh: It would be unfair. |
| 17:27:48 | Widget | ^jh: Three, to be exact. :) |
| 17:28:01 | ^jh | well nm then |
| 17:28:09 | Widget | ^jh: Look, against the frogs, we already know who would win. We should aim for even matches. Like against TLZ. |
| 17:28:25 | ^jh | yes |
| 17:28:29 | ^jh | but i like to win |
| 17:28:30 | ^jh | haha |
| 17:28:43 | Widget | ^jh: :P |
| 17:29:07 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: What are they saying? |
| 17:29:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | Widget this one who speaks right now got saaremaa dialect :) |
| 17:29:26 | Widget | Hehe. |
| 17:29:29 | Widget | The man? |
| 17:29:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | they talkin about makin an instrument an playin on it and instrument is kannel |
| 17:29:59 | [BZ]Ruudi | and about culture and so on |
| 17:30:07 | Widget | Hm... he pauses a lot in midsentence. Is it because the Estonians themselves forget how to use some of the more obscure cases sometimes? ;) |
| 17:30:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | no not that |
| 17:30:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | he's speakin like that slow and more pauses and not so soft couse hi's from saaremaa |
| 17:30:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | estonians never think about cases :) |
| 17:31:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | and we all bit shy in tv or radio |
| 17:31:38 | Widget | Suuuure. I bet he forgot how exactly the Inessive works. ;) |
| 17:31:42 | Widget | You have to forget sometimes! |
| 17:32:24 | Widget | Hm. Vastama, vastata, vastan, vastatud. |
| 17:32:26 | ^jh | ruudi u live in estonia? |
| 17:32:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | yes i do |
| 17:32:35 | Widget | Meeldima, meeldid, meeldin, meelditud. |
| 17:32:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | you cant forget a case :! |
| 17:33:06 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Is Tartu a big city? |
| 17:33:25 | Widget | ^jh: Do all Finnish kids learn Swedish in school? |
| 17:33:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | nop |
| 17:33:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | about 100 000 |
| 17:33:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | maybe some more/less |
| 17:33:56 | ^jh | yes widget |
| 17:34:00 | Widget | Bigger than my city (Invercargill). |
| 17:34:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | tartu is second after tallinn |
| 17:34:19 | Widget | Paistma, paista, paistan, paistetud. |
| 17:34:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | heh you do em by yourself widget :? |
| 17:34:35 | ^jh | it's a lot same like finnish |
| 17:34:38 | Widget | silma paista. |
| 17:34:53 | ^jh | vitut |
| 17:35:15 | Widget | http://muhu.cs.helsinki.fi/By_Subject/Language/Estonian_Finnish_similarity -- How similar are Estonian and Finnish? |
| 17:35:26 | ^jh | looks like zees are not here |
| 17:35:35 | Widget | Mina tulen, sina tuled, tema tuleb. |
| 17:35:44 | Widget | Meie tuleme, teie tulete, nemad tulevad. |
| 17:35:53 | ^jh | too few teams play these days |
| 17:35:58 | Widget | I know! |
| 17:36:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | mina olen, sina oled, tema on, meie oleme, teie olete, nemad on |
| 17:36:20 | Widget | Mina olin, sina olid, tema oli. |
| 17:36:21 | Widget | See oli. |
| 17:36:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | we ase most active team i guess |
| 17:36:28 | Widget | Meie olime, teie olite, nemad olid. |
| 17:36:40 | Widget | With BAMF, we will be able to play in American timezones as well. |
| 17:36:44 | Widget | freelancer! |
| 17:36:49 | Widget | freelancer: Is meq coming? |
| 17:36:52 | freelancer | hi widget |
| 17:36:56 | Widget | iLLf8d and freelancer are here. |
| 17:37:09 | Widget | captain_proton is recovering from having his wisdom teeth removed. :( |
| 17:37:25 | Widget | Apparently it hurts a lot. |
| 17:37:51 | freelancer | had mine removed was ok 2 hours later |
| 17:38:12 | Widget | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.net/snoot.jpg |
| 17:38:28 | Risolino | i want bzflag on freebsd!! |
| 17:38:33 | Widget | Whoops. |
| 17:38:36 | Widget | Wrong URL. |
| 17:39:19 | iLLf8d | ehh |
| 17:39:27 | freelancer | so does that mean Proton won't be here to play?? |
| 17:39:30 | iLLf8d | wisdom teeth can be cake or a bitch |
| 17:39:35 | Widget | Hopefully he'll be better by now. |
| 17:39:40 | Widget | But yesterday he was really bad. |
| 17:39:44 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 17:39:46 | Widget | He had internal bleeding. |
| 17:39:55 | iLLf8d | lol |
| 17:39:55 | Widget | And he was on painkillers. |
| 17:40:01 | freelancer | he told me he was going to take lots of drugs |
| 17:40:03 | iLLf8d | you make it sound like he was run over by a bus |
| 17:40:35 | Widget | iLLf8d: He showed a picture withi his bandage.. he looked really bad :( |
| 17:41:41 | iLLf8d | oh sorry to hear it |
| 17:41:52 | iLLf8d | yeah he won't be in a flaggin mood then |
| 17:42:03 | Widget | And he has a job interview tomorrow. |
| 17:42:10 | Widget | He had to postpone it from Friday. |
| 17:42:45 | freelancer | meq should stand for mia |
| 17:42:54 | iLLf8d | tell me about it |
| 17:43:09 | ^jh | mia? |
| 17:43:48 | freelancer | missing in action |
| 17:43:54 | ^jh | oh yes |
| 17:47:17 | Widget | Hm.. Estonian sounds sort of like Hindi- |
| 17:47:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm dunno about hindi |
| 17:47:53 | corndawg | hi hi hi |
| 17:48:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | widget you learn estonian |
| 17:48:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | it's not so bad as they talk :) |
| 17:48:20 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: It's impossible to learn! |
| 17:48:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | well estonian crammatics are real mess...but i can write without mistakes |
| 17:49:14 | corndawg | sup Widget |
| 17:49:15 | Widget | Hm.. I know, English orthography sucks. |
| 17:49:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | i never got estonian grammar in school |
| 17:49:19 | Widget | hihihi, corndawg. |
| 17:49:29 | Widget | Apparently it's worse than any language besides Scots Gaelic. |
| 17:49:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | i mean i never didn't bother to learn it |
| 17:49:56 | Widget | Well, you learnt it because you grew up in Estonia. |
| 17:50:12 | Widget | I don't even have any native speakers to practice with. |
| 17:50:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah..that's right too |
| 17:50:28 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: How many Swedish speakers are in Estonia? |
| 17:50:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | well you can practice with me by writing |
| 17:50:50 | corndawg | estonia? wheres that at? |
| 17:50:56 | Widget | Then I'll learn to write it, but not pronounce it. |
| 17:51:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | swedish not mutch one of my friends speak dunno |
| 17:51:03 | Widget | corndawg: North of Latvia. |
| 17:51:06 | Widget | corndawg: East of Russia. |
| 17:51:11 | Widget | corndawg: Er.. |
| 17:51:13 | Widget | corndawg: West of Russia. |
| 17:51:17 | Widget | corndawg: Southeast of Finland. |
| 17:51:21 | Widget | corndawg: Northeast Europe. |
| 17:51:23 | corndawg | ahh |
| 17:51:31 | corndawg | lol so somewhere waaaaaay out there |
| 17:51:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | well if you will learn all leter names you can pronaunce |
| 17:52:06 | Widget | Well, there are letters like õ.... |
| 17:52:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | there is no eny of thiss mess lik ein german that two different letters are pronaunced as one whitch not none of em two |
| 17:52:21 | [BZ]Ruudi | damn sentens i made now :P |
| 17:52:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | õ is lik eö but more like nazal |
| 17:52:34 | Widget | No, German has a nice orthography. |
| 17:52:36 | Widget | English has a bad one. |
| 17:52:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | through the nose |
| 17:53:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | well estonian compared to german is same as german compared to english |
| 17:53:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | all you write you spell same |
| 17:53:18 | Widget | Rechtschreibung. |
| 17:53:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | not like cat you write and dog you say |
| 17:53:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | and listengin helps pronauncing well |
| 17:53:44 | Widget | Moin, Ginku. |
| 17:53:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi ginku |
| 17:54:00 | Widget | Rili? |
| 17:54:01 | Ginku | hallo :-) |
| 17:54:25 | Widget | Meibi wi shud iuz Estonian orthografi. |
| 17:54:49 | Ginku | lol |
| 17:55:01 | Widget | hihihi, MrCooper. |
| 17:55:20 | Ginku | /nick [TFF]Ginku |
| 17:55:31 | Ginku | hm |
| 17:55:42 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: But all your arguments about Estonian's good orthography also apply to Finnish, and more people speak Finnish. ;) |
| 17:55:52 | Ginku | doesn´t work |
| 17:55:53 | Widget | /nick [TFF]Ginku |
| 18:01:19 | Risolino | italian orthography is the best :-) |
| 18:02:57 | Widget | But how come "C" is pronounced "ch" in "ciao", but "k" in "come stai"? |
| 18:03:37 | Widget | c in ca, co, cu, che, chi sounds different from c in ci ce. |
| 18:03:51 | Widget | And g in ga, go, gu, ghe, ghi, from gi, ge. |
| 18:04:02 | Risolino | "ch"= english "k" |
| 18:04:06 | Widget | Ya. |
| 18:04:13 | Widget | But I meant "ch" as in English. |
| 18:04:23 | Widget | c changes its pronunciation based on what follows it. |
| 18:04:34 | Risolino | "sc"=english "ch" |
| 18:04:48 | Widget | Ya. |
| 18:04:59 | Risolino | mmm well..it depends.. |
| 18:05:02 | Risolino | for example |
| 18:05:18 | Risolino | "change" is pronounced as "ciange" |
| 18:05:24 | Widget | In Finnish and Estonian a letter is pronounced the same everywhere |
| 18:05:27 | Risolino | "change" is pronounced as "ceinge" |
| 18:06:10 | Risolino | in italian too |
| 18:06:20 | Risolino | you speak as you write |
| 18:06:39 | Widget | I know, but a given letter in Finnish and Estonian is pronounced the same everywhere. |
| 18:07:07 | Widget | In Italian, if a c is followed by i or e, it is pronounced like the English first sound in "change". |
| 18:07:08 | Risolino | i still don't understand what you mean |
| 18:07:29 | Widget | An Italian letter changes its pronunciation based on the vowel following it. |
| 18:07:47 | Risolino | yes |
| 18:07:56 | Risolino | well noi |
| 18:07:58 | Risolino | no |
| 18:08:01 | Risolino | no no |
| 18:08:12 | Widget | In Italian, if a c is followed by i or e, it is pronounced like the English first sound in "change". |
| 18:08:26 | Widget | And if it is followed by a, o, you or h, it sounds like the English letter "k". |
| 18:08:32 | Risolino | no. listen to me. |
| 18:08:48 | Risolino | ok |
| 18:08:59 | Risolino | in estonian? |
| 18:09:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | in estonian English begins with e as estonian :) |
| 18:09:14 | [BZ]Ruudi | good sentens again :P |
| 18:09:17 | Widget | eesti keel |
| 18:09:34 | Widget | suomea |
| 18:09:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | will play with frogs today? |
| 18:09:58 | Widget | Probably not. |
| 18:10:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | suomea there is long o ? |
| 18:10:17 | [TFF]Ginku | maybe, when Dutch_Mandrake arrives |
| 18:10:18 | Widget | It's pronounced as it would be pronounced in Estonian, probably. |
| 18:10:23 | [BZ]Ruudi | no |
| 18:10:26 | Fanta | be back in an hour |
| 18:10:33 | Risolino | "uil plei uiv frogs todei" |
| 18:10:36 | [TFF]Ginku | later |
| 18:10:51 | Widget | uiv? |
| 18:11:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | well suomea in finnish pronauncing would be estonian suoomea |
| 18:11:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | long o |
| 18:11:26 | Risolino | Widget: yes..something between "uiv" and "uid" |
| 18:11:28 | Widget | I think it's a short o in Finnish as well... but I don't know. |
| 18:11:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | in estonian you just write two os |
| 18:11:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i dunno too |
| 18:11:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | maybe it is |
| 18:11:51 | Widget | Risolino: It should be uif or uit, because the sound in unvoiced. |
| 18:12:07 | Widget | Risolino: The combination "th" has two pronunciations in English, depending on which word it's in. |
| 18:12:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | what sounds uiv? |
| 18:12:14 | Widget | "with" |
| 18:12:24 | Risolino | t is very strong in italian |
| 18:12:53 | Risolino | i think something like "uif" or "uiv" or "uid" is better |
| 18:13:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | widget if you know how fish in russian you will understand the õ letter :) |
| 18:13:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | sure girillic got other letter for that |
| 18:14:10 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Estonian has a perfect orthography, but so does Finnish, and more people speak it. ;) |
| 18:14:49 | Risolino | we never put the tongue between the theeves |
| 18:14:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | well if you learn finnish then it's not hard to learn estonian |
| 18:14:57 | Risolino | it's hard to do |
| 18:15:01 | ^jh | so no games tonight eh |
| 18:15:06 | Widget | Theeves? |
| 18:15:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | lot of tallinn people speak finnish just they listen finnish radio or something |
| 18:15:23 | Risolino | Widget: emm..."theeth"? |
| 18:15:29 | Widget | Oh. |
| 18:15:30 | Widget | Teeth. |
| 18:15:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | Hammas |
| 18:15:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | Hammbad |
| 18:16:23 | Widget | Zähne. |
| 18:16:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | die zähne? |
| 18:16:55 | Widget | Ya. |
| 18:17:04 | Risolino | also the "r" is hard to pronounce. i thought it was simple but a canadian friend of mine says i am not able to pronounce it. |
| 18:17:08 | Widget | Es ist plural. |
| 18:17:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | lot of words ending with e got die ? |
| 18:17:31 | Widget | Risolino: In many dialects of English, the 'r' isn't pronounced a lot in many position. |
| 18:17:36 | Widget | Risolino: But in North American dialects it is. |
| 18:17:48 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: No, it's plural. |
| 18:17:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah i see |
| 18:17:54 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Plurals are always in die. |
| 18:17:58 | [BZ]Ruudi | ok |
| 18:18:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeas i remember now :) |
| 18:18:56 | Widget | I got a recording of the Estonian anthem. |
| 18:19:02 | Widget | And I played it at the same time as the Finnish anthem. |
| 18:20:19 | Widget | Eesti hümn |
| 18:20:38 | Risolino | and i usually spend a lot of energy to pronounce words like "here" |
| 18:21:05 | Widget | Risolino: In North American dialects, they pronounce the r... in most other dialects, they don't. |
| 18:21:22 | Risolino | Widget: the problem now is the "h" :-) |
| 18:21:43 | Widget | Ah. :) |
| 18:23:32 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: http://www.schneeland.com/sound/maamme.mp3 You can hear the Finnish pronunciation of Suomi. |
| 18:23:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i cant pronaunce polak or sort of that languages...do they can by themself :? |
| 18:24:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | heh i belive it's short o :) |
| 18:24:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | well suoomi there is still :) |
| 18:24:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | but it's a song anyway |
| 18:25:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | how about maori Widget you speak it? |
| 18:25:44 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Nope. I just know "Kia Ora". |
| 18:25:48 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: It's a greeting. |
| 18:25:57 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Most Maoris don't even speak Maori anymore. |
| 18:26:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | i see |
| 18:26:25 | [BZ]Ruudi | is it white cloud land - new zealand in maori |
| 18:26:33 | Widget | Aotearoa. |
| 18:26:33 | Widget | Yes. |
| 18:26:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | thats beautyful |
| 18:27:05 | Widget | I once read somewhere that it was a mistranslation though. |
| 18:27:29 | Widget | I have to go to breakfast.... see you. |
| 18:27:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | cu |
| 18:27:37 | ^jh | cu |
| 18:27:42 | doughecka | grins |
| 18:27:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | i had just my luntch :P |
| 18:27:52 | doughecka | I am going to eat lunch :P |
| 18:27:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | or something i had some food just :P |
| 18:28:00 | MrApathyCream | 'here' starts with a sigh |
| 18:28:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | it's allmost midnight and i had meat and poataoes :P |
| 18:28:20 | doughecka | hey MrApathyCream! |
| 18:28:24 | doughecka | rum |
| 18:28:25 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 18:28:26 | doughecka | er |
| 18:28:27 | doughecka | yum |
| 18:29:27 | [BZ]Ruudi | Flanger - So What - rules |
| 18:29:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | flaresound radio is best internet radio there is |
| 18:30:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | but seems like left channel of my amplifier or soundcard is bit broken...left is allway slouder |
| 18:30:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | louder |
| 18:31:28 | captain_proton | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 18:31:30 | captain_proton | how goes? |
| 18:33:08 | freelancer | hi Captain\ |
| 18:33:25 | captain_proton | yo |
| 18:33:42 | freelancer | how ya feeling |
| 18:34:01 | captain_proton | soso |
| 18:36:27 | freelancer | so any matches today anyone |
| 18:37:34 | MrApathyCream | yo |
| 18:38:59 | freelancer | be back later cu |
| 18:39:25 | captain_proton | hmm, patlabor been in today? |
| 18:59:20 | Widget | returneth. |
| 19:15:04 | Widget | hihihi, [TeA|TrEE]. |
| 19:33:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm 32X cd writing is nice |
| 19:35:10 | Risolino | can i use the joystick to play bzflag? |
| 19:40:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | come all ducati non ctf lets have some action...turns music volume up |
| 19:40:50 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: I can't. |
| 19:40:57 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Low framerate. :( |
| 19:57:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm my rates not soo good too tnt is getting old |
| 19:58:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | anyways i get to bed now |
| 19:58:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | go to :P |
| 19:58:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | ncu |
| 19:58:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | hah n like in bz |
| 20:02:18 | mandy | hihihi |
| 20:02:34 | doughecka | ih ih ih |
| 20:02:48 | mandy | lol |
| 20:03:36 | sussudio | how do i get the framerate in bzflag |
| 20:03:50 | doughecka | press s |
| 20:03:53 | doughecka | er |
| 20:03:56 | doughecka | press t |
| 20:03:57 | sussudio | s er? |
| 20:04:06 | doughecka | no |
| 20:04:10 | doughecka | press t to get it |
| 20:05:28 | sussudio | ok its around 200... is that good or bad |
| 20:05:32 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:05:36 | doughecka | bad |
| 20:05:39 | doughecka | its better to get around 1000 |
| 20:05:40 | doughecka | ;) |
| 20:05:41 | sussudio | bad? |
| 20:05:49 | doughecka | kidding |
| 20:05:54 | doughecka | 200 is GREAT! |
| 20:06:00 | sussudio | its a friggin ati radeon |
| 20:06:02 | doughecka | what kind of video card do you have? |
| 20:06:06 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:06:13 | sussudio | 7200 aiw |
| 20:06:15 | doughecka | 200 is better than what I get |
| 20:06:22 | doughecka | I get around 60 |
| 20:06:30 | doughecka | with a GF2MX400 |
| 20:06:37 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:06:56 | sussudio | my mom has a tnt2.... its not really slow but butt-ugly compared to my radeon |
| 20:07:05 | doughecka | hehe |
| 20:07:06 | doughecka | yes |
| 20:07:11 | doughecka | tnt is ooollllddd |
| 20:07:24 | sussudio | well it's about 8 months old |
| 20:07:31 | sussudio | riva or something |
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| 20:07:33 | doughecka | ibot ducati? |
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| 20:07:33 | doughecka | ibot jzaun-rotate |
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| 20:07:36 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 20:07:39 | doughecka | hmmm |
| 20:07:44 | doughecka | ye |
| 20:07:44 | doughecka | s |
| 20:07:56 | doughecka | but still, get a GF4ti card |
| 20:07:58 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:08:05 | sussudio | i dont think so |
| 20:08:06 | doughecka | get about 500 FPS maybe... |
| 20:08:10 | sussudio | nvidia sux0rs |
| 20:08:10 | doughecka | hehe |
| 20:08:22 | doughecka | nah |
| 20:08:27 | sussudio | and i cant capture with it either probably |
| 20:08:33 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:08:39 | doughecka | ATI is good for that k9ind of sdtuff |
| 20:08:55 | sussudio | yeah too bad their software programmers are a bunch of retarded baboons |
| 20:08:59 | sussudio | maybe its a canadian thing |
| 20:09:00 | doughecka | haha |
| 20:09:09 | sussudio | same with gravis..... |
| 20:09:18 | doughecka | heh |
| 20:09:18 | sussudio | good hardware, CRAP software |
| 20:09:25 | doughecka | nvidia has great drivers |
| 20:10:06 | Widget | has a TNT 2. |
| 20:10:37 | doughecka | haaa |
| 20:10:47 | doughecka | ibot tell sussudio about x |
| 20:11:50 | doughecka | thats a ibot there |
| 20:12:42 | sussudio | hmm where's my jar of simms... |
| 20:13:15 | doughecka | hehe |
| 20:13:17 | doughecka | same for me |
| 20:13:21 | doughecka | I have lots |
| 20:20:28 | doughecka | whois apt |
| 20:21:42 | MrApathyCream | man, calvin & hobbs, is nice! |
| 20:28:41 | sussudio | anyone know what 7 beeps on post means? |
| 20:31:22 | Widget | iLLf8d: Still there? |
| 20:31:32 | doughecka | sussudio: on bootup? |
| 20:31:40 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 20:31:51 | doughecka | you would need to get the manual for your motherboard |
| 20:31:54 | sussudio | yeah post... power on self test |
| 20:32:08 | doughecka | you would need to get the manual for your motherboard |
| 20:32:10 | sussudio | no... beeps are the same for bioses |
| 20:32:16 | doughecka | oh |
| 20:32:23 | doughecka | then get the manual for your BIOS |
| 20:32:30 | doughecka | I dont have them memorized |
| 20:32:32 | doughecka | ;) |
| 20:32:46 | sussudio | i just got these 2 boards from someone...... dont have manuals. |
| 20:32:46 | doughecka | grins |
| 20:32:50 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:33:12 | doughecka | the mobo should say somthine on teh board about what kind of BIOS is has |
| 20:33:23 | doughecka | then look it up on google |
| 20:34:37 | [TeA|TrEE] | well tomorrow im gone for 2 weeks |
| 20:34:50 | fontenot | maybe search on "bios beep codes" |
| 20:34:54 | doughecka | eh? |
| 20:36:27 | sussudio | anyone seen my stapler? |
| 20:36:32 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:36:36 | doughecka | behind ya |
| 20:36:46 | sussudio | the red swingline stapler? |
| 20:36:52 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:36:59 | doughecka | that one is up on the shelf |
| 20:42:45 | Widget | Why are all the Europeans still awake? |
| 20:43:35 | Nicole3 | hi ppl |
| 20:44:15 | paul | Widget: its only 2300 here. |
| 20:44:25 | doughecka | only.... |
| 20:44:45 | paul | doughecka: we're allowed to stay up past 2100 |
| 20:44:46 | paul | :) |
| 20:45:06 | Widget | Everyone's so mean to doughecka. :P |
| 20:45:26 | Widget | Ya, but it's um... midnight in Europe, right? |
| 20:45:39 | Widget | Central Europe. |
| 20:45:42 | paul | Widget: depends what part of europe.. |
| 20:45:46 | Widget | Not Iberia or the British Isles. |
| 20:45:54 | paul | iberia is CST |
| 20:45:56 | Widget | Or Finland, or Russia or the Baltic states. |
| 20:45:56 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:46:08 | Widget | paul: Spain is CST. |
| 20:46:11 | Widget | paul: Portugal isn't. |
| 20:46:16 | doughecka | kentucky is EST |
| 20:46:19 | paul | i believe finland and baltic are cst too. |
| 20:46:25 | doughecka | if you where wonderin |
| 20:46:29 | Widget | doughecka: Nope, Kentucky is EDT. |
| 20:46:32 | Widget | paul: They're not. |
| 20:46:34 | paul | Widget: sure about portugal being not being in CST? |
| 20:46:36 | Widget | paul: They are GMT+3. |
| 20:46:40 | doughecka | EDT? |
| 20:46:49 | Widget | Eastern Daylight Time. |
| 20:46:57 | doughecka | oh, yes |
| 20:47:02 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:47:16 | paul | Widget: baltic states are GMT+3? wow. |
| 20:47:25 | paul | Widget: what about portugal? |
| 20:47:28 | Widget | paul: Sun Aug 18 22:53:08 2002 |
| 20:47:36 | Widget | paul: It's GMT+1 right now, same as you. |
| 20:48:01 | paul | was in portugal last year, but cant remember whether there was an hours difference or not when phoning home |
| 20:48:14 | Widget | paul: And Finland/Estonia/Lativa/Lithuania are all GMT+3. |
| 20:48:29 | paul | like i said before widget, you know too much. |
| 20:48:38 | paul | now... email and spam filtering.. |
| 20:48:39 | Widget | No, this is for match planning. |
| 20:48:43 | Widget | Ruudi is Estonian... |
| 20:48:49 | Widget | jh is Finnish. |
| 20:48:52 | Widget | Sniper 50 is Swedish. |
| 20:49:19 | paul | ah |
| 20:49:39 | Widget | paul: Did you build your own implementation of that spam filter like Chestal? |
| 20:49:57 | Widget | hihihi, MrCooper. |
| 20:50:04 | Widget | hihihi, MrCooper_. |
| 20:50:13 | MrCooper_ | hi Widget |
| 20:51:15 | paul | Widget: i have my own regex spam filter, which catches most spam. |
| 20:51:30 | captain_proton | whats the address for calvin&hobbes? |
| 20:51:39 | Widget | paul: Ooh. How does it work? |
| 20:51:42 | paul | Widget: will look at the probability filter, but it requires regular maintenance (like all filters) |
| 20:51:50 | Widget | paul: Ah. |
| 20:51:57 | Widget | paul: Yes. |
| 20:52:14 | Widget | paul: Chestal is having to feed it English mails so that it will not think that English mail = Spam. |
| 20:52:50 | | [BZ]Ruudi was last seen on #bzflag 53 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: hah n like in bz [Sun Aug 18 20:58:57 2002] |
| 20:52:50 | Widget | ibot: seen [BZ]Ruudi |
| 20:53:13 | paul | Widget: a file with about 6k regular expressions. of which approx 450 are 'generalised' regexs that i've made. the rest are quite specific regexs lifter from the nl.linux.org CVS tree. |
| 20:53:33 | paul | uses the procmail scoring filter facility. |
| 20:53:35 | paul | man procmailsc |
| 20:54:36 | paul | Widget: yes, the probability filter needs mail fed to it. |
| 20:54:46 | Widget | procmailsc - procmail weighted scoring technique |
| 20:55:07 | paul | Widget: further it needs to know which are good are which are not. |
| 20:55:38 | paul | i might talk to chestal about it a bit more. |
| 20:57:37 | Widget | kylpyhuone |
| 20:58:01 | Widget | MrCooper_ is now known as MrCooper. |
| 20:58:35 | Widget | Wow. |
| 20:58:39 | MrCooper | Widget: too early ;) |
| 20:58:59 | Widget | MrCooper: Too late. :P |
| 20:59:08 | MrCooper | heh |
| 21:02:05 | sussudio | fine. dont even beep at me. no dessert for you, muthaboard. |
| 21:29:45 | Fluffy_bz | hello |
| 21:41:14 | T-34 | Hello everybody!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:41:34 | T-34 | Bye |
| 22:32:34 | Nicole3 | pretty colorz |
| 22:32:35 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 22:32:55 | Widget | Wait.,... Fluffy_bz? |
| 22:33:09 | Widget | Did Fluffy join our team without telling me!? |
| 22:34:54 | sussudio | how do you set a team anyway |
| 22:35:10 | Widget | Set a team? |
| 22:35:19 | sussudio | yeah like inbetween the ()'s |
| 22:35:39 | Widget | Add the line email <teamname> to .bzflag. |
| 22:35:51 | sussudio | windows has a .bzflag? |
| 22:36:01 | sussudio | looks |
| 22:36:03 | Widget | In My Documents. |
| 22:37:37 | sussudio | bzflag.bzc there, but no .bzflag |
| 22:37:57 | Widget | Is there a bzflag? |
| 22:39:14 | sussudio | hm that didnt do it |
| 22:41:29 | MrCooper | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:41:31 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:41:34 | Risolino | i'd really like a freebsd version of bzflag |
| 22:41:51 | MrCooper | there is none? |
| 22:41:58 | Risolino | no |
| 22:42:06 | MrCooper | why not? :) |
| 22:42:09 | Risolino | there's port...but is borken |
| 22:42:13 | Risolino | groken |
| 22:42:18 | Risolino | damn...broken |
| 22:42:26 | MrCooper | heh, I figured |
| 22:42:29 | Risolino | don't know why |
| 22:43:01 | MrCooper | can't you use the Linux version on FreeBSD? |
| 22:43:26 | Risolino | MrCooper: yes, if it exists some place where can i download the binary file |
| 22:43:41 | captain_proton | Risolino: why don't you just compile by hand? |
| 22:43:55 | Risolino | captain_proton: it doesn't compile.. |
| 22:44:09 | Widget | Risolino: Not even the Linux version? |
| 22:44:35 | captain_proton | Risolino: so post a bug on sf with the errors it generates |
| 22:44:37 | Risolino | Widget: the linux one...work greatly, but i am on freebsd now.. |
| 22:44:54 | Widget | Oh. |
| 22:45:17 | Risolino | (and i can't copy the binary file from linux to freebsd) |
| 22:45:34 | Risolino | just a place where can i download the binary file (and related dir) |
| 22:45:55 | captain_proton | could pull it out of the rpm with rpm2cpio |
| 22:46:16 | Risolino | captain_proton: how can uncompress those rpms? |
| 22:46:39 | Risolino | captain_proton: rpm should have to be installed to work properly (i guess) |
| 22:47:25 | Risolino | i just need a dir like mine in /home/Risolino/bzflag1.7e6 in linux |
| 22:47:32 | captain_proton | Risolino: you may have to reorganize a bit after pulling out from the rpm, but it ought to work |
| 22:48:44 | Risolino | can someone compile it for a i386 (or i686) machine and then give me the dir? :-) |
| 22:50:45 | captain_proton | hmm, wait |
| 22:50:54 | captain_proton | why can't you just copy it from a linux system? |
| 22:51:25 | Risolino | i can't |
| 22:51:30 | Risolino | i don't have a burner |
| 22:51:39 | Risolino | and i can't mount the partiotion |
| 22:51:52 | captain_proton | can't you mount the fbsd partition under linux? |
| 22:52:03 | Risolino | damn! how stupid i am! |
| 22:52:25 | Risolino | captain_proton: no...but i can email the dir to myself |
| 22:52:58 | Risolino | from linux.. |
| 22:53:10 | captain_proton | heh |
| 22:53:39 | doughecka | 1025053 |
| 22:53:55 | Risolino | bytes? |
| 22:54:11 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:54:19 | doughecka | dsl flickerd |
| 22:59:57 | sussudio | lightning....... weaaaaaak. |
| 23:00:26 | sussudio | i got an idea for an annoying bad flag |
| 23:04:25 | Widget | What? |
| 23:06:11 | bryjen | hrm. bzflag keeps segfaulting. |
| 23:07:39 | bryjen | i was on jzuan.com earlier. now i can't connect. says its still the same map. |
| 23:08:46 | bryjen | i wonder if it has rolled over and died |
| 23:09:25 | sussudio | blanks.... they would just bounce off off other tanks |
| 23:10:04 | bryjen | i think "duds" has been proposed |
| 23:10:13 | sussudio | hmm |
| 23:10:32 | sussudio | what about a watercannon |
| 23:10:46 | sussudio | or oilslick |
| 23:10:48 | bryjen | http://www.bzflag.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/FlagList |
| 23:11:31 | bryjen | water cannon might be a neat visual effect, but what would it do ? |
| 23:12:17 | sussudio | dunno. just push other tanks away |
| 23:12:31 | sussudio | might do something similar with a shockwave |
| 23:12:57 | doughecka | tidal wave |
| 23:13:05 | sussudio | something like that |
| 23:13:15 | doughecka | fire hose |
| 23:13:40 | doughecka | is away: auto 4 sec away |
| 23:14:40 | | jzaun was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes and 50 seconds ago, saying: hrmf... no bzbot :-( [Sat Aug 17 23:02:50 2002] |
| 23:14:40 | bryjen | ibot: seen jzaun ? |
| 23:14:57 | bryjen | hmm |
| 23:15:05 | bryjen | bzfquery jzaun.com 5157 |
| 23:15:06 | bzbot | Rogue: 3 players, score: 0 | Red: 1 players, score: -26 | Purple: 1 players, score: 23 | |
| 23:15:15 | bryjen | maybe its just me then. |
| 23:15:34 | bryjen | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 23:15:35 | bzbot | Jasper (P): 23 (32-9). molybdenum heavy metal (R): -7 (5-12). [*a*] Noodleman (r): 2 (3-1). Gerbil, King of the Jungle (r): 9 (29-20). mystery girl (r): -1 (2-3). |
| 23:18:50 | bryjen | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 23:18:52 | bzbot | [*a*] Noodleman (r): 0 (3-3). Jasper (P): -1 (3-4). Casey Jones (Molybdenum) (R): 0 (3-3). |
| 23:19:30 | bryjen | new map |
| 23:22:17 | bryjen | what is smoothing ? |
| 23:22:33 | | bryjen: no idea |
| 23:22:33 | bryjen | ibot: smoothing ? |
| 23:22:55 | | captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 29 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying: heh [Sun Aug 18 23:53:10 2002] |
| 23:22:55 | bryjen | ibot: seen captain_proton ? |
| 23:25:17 | BZig | hi |
| 23:27:10 | bryjen | hi |
| 23:27:23 | BZig | where is everyone?! |
| 23:27:38 | jolly | hello |
| 23:27:48 | bryjen | its usually quiet in here |
| 23:27:54 | BZig | hrm |
| 23:27:58 | BZig | is there a match going on? |
| 23:28:06 | BZig | hi jolly |
| 23:28:12 | jolly | don't think so |
| 23:28:17 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 23:28:18 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 23:28:27 | bryjen | no league game on ducati |
| 23:28:49 | BZig | jolly: 1v1 ? |
| 23:28:55 | jolly | ummmm |
| 23:29:04 | jolly | sure i guess |
| 23:29:08 | BZig | 5155 |
| 23:29:14 | jolly | k |
| 23:31:29 | Widget | Ooh! |
| 23:31:31 | Widget | I want to watch! |
