| 00:00:37 | Widget | 08-16-02 06:01PM 5070292 JC(ENG).zip |
| 00:00:37 | Widget | 08-16-02 06:01PM 4039976 JC(ORG).zip |
| 00:00:37 | Widget | 08-16-02 06:02PM 8882771 JC(V2).zip |
| 00:00:37 | Widget | 08-16-02 06:01PM 4376134 JCII(JAP).zip |
| 00:00:42 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:00:48 | Patlabor221 | V2 is my favorate |
| 00:00:56 | Patlabor221 | but JCII is very good |
| 00:01:11 | Patlabor221 | eng is just plain hard to listen too |
| 00:01:19 | Patlabor221 | and they are all done by the exact same band |
| 00:02:18 | Patlabor221 | and if you want the most excelnt macross plus music it is in that other zip |
| 00:03:12 | captain_proton | ok, something is really messed up |
| 00:03:25 | captain_proton | if i remove the tga's from the data dir, it just infloops without a window |
| 00:03:53 | Patlabor221 | WTF |
| 00:04:12 | Widget | captain_proton: Hah! I knew LFS would let you down one day! |
| 00:04:13 | Patlabor221 | the textures should not change the LGE stuff |
| 00:04:30 | Patlabor221 | it should bail on the bind |
| 00:04:42 | Patlabor221 | when it tires to bind -1 |
| 00:04:58 | Patlabor221 | tries it with BZA |
| 00:05:08 | Widget | Oh, I need to download these in binary mode. |
| 00:05:53 | Patlabor221 | I get untextured planes |
| 00:06:07 | Patlabor221 | proalby for the best there widget |
| 00:06:20 | captain_proton | Widget: its not let me down, its just temporarily broken |
| 00:06:33 | Patlabor221 | what is LFS? |
| 00:06:48 | Widget | Linux from Scratch. |
| 00:07:09 | Patlabor221 | what does this mean? |
| 00:07:27 | captain_proton | all hand compiled |
| 00:07:29 | captain_proton | no distro |
| 00:07:51 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 00:07:54 | Widget | Patlabor221: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ |
| 00:07:57 | Patlabor221 | that would scare me |
| 00:08:23 | Patlabor221 | hahah I like the puzzle tux |
| 00:08:47 | Widget | Patlabor221: Why? |
| 00:08:57 | Widget | Patlabor221: Get captain_proton's spiffy iso! |
| 00:09:13 | Patlabor221 | still |
| 00:09:21 | Patlabor221 | I don't use lin for that much |
| 00:09:31 | Patlabor221 | and he seems to hate KDE |
| 00:09:43 | captain_proton | i don't hate |
| 00:09:45 | captain_proton | i just don't like |
| 00:10:33 | Widget | He uses... Gnome though. |
| 00:11:21 | captain_proton | i use gnome apps |
| 00:11:28 | captain_proton | i don't use the gnome session stuff |
| 00:11:51 | captain_proton | swallows some more blood |
| 00:12:35 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:12:38 | captain_proton | wonders... |
| 00:14:31 | Widget | Is that normal? |
| 00:15:06 | Patlabor221 | when you have had your teeth riped out.. yes |
| 00:15:18 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara jetstream]$ ./jetstream |
| 00:15:18 | captain_proton | Error! Couldn't find matching GLX visual |
| 00:15:26 | captain_proton | it was doing this before...how did i fix it... |
| 00:16:07 | Widget | Does it say Xlib: before it? |
| 00:16:20 | captain_proton | no |
| 00:16:21 | Widget | Xlib: Error! Couldn't find matching GLX visual ? |
| 00:16:26 | captain_proton | no |
| 00:16:30 | Widget | I had that error yesterday. |
| 00:16:31 | captain_proton | i created the 'Error! ' bit |
| 00:16:42 | captain_proton | the Couldn't... is from SDL |
| 00:16:42 | Widget | Or a similar one. |
| 00:17:11 | Patlabor221 | bit depth? |
| 00:17:20 | Patlabor221 | had that problem once too |
| 00:17:42 | captain_proton | hmm, perhaps |
| 00:18:57 | captain_proton | nope |
| 00:19:13 | captain_proton | i'll restart X soon |
| 00:21:05 | Patlabor221 | and now I shall bid you all adeau...... |
| 00:38:49 | captain_proton | growls |
| 00:39:12 | patlabor221 | like a freral growl, or one of those gutteral ones? |
| 00:39:25 | captain_proton | both |
| 00:39:31 | captain_proton | all rolled into one |
| 00:39:35 | patlabor221 | is that posible? |
| 00:39:44 | patlabor221 | with a human laryix? |
| 00:39:56 | captain_proton | apparently |
| 00:40:07 | patlabor221 | still no es bueno? |
| 00:40:26 | captain_proton | no |
| 00:40:30 | captain_proton | can't find the visual |
| 00:40:57 | patlabor221 | and I asume the error code is like "can't allocate the muttha" |
| 00:41:18 | captain_proton | something like that |
| 00:41:33 | captain_proton | woooooo |
| 00:41:34 | captain_proton | found it |
| 00:41:37 | patlabor221 | that was an actual error code in our software at one point |
| 00:41:49 | patlabor221 | that and "bad number of SHITs in part" |
| 00:41:59 | captain_proton | its all your SDL_GL_SetAttribute's |
| 00:42:14 | captain_proton | damnit, it wasn't gcc 3.2 after all |
| 00:42:21 | captain_proton | goes to re-upgrade to gcc 3.2 |
| 00:43:30 | patlabor221 | didn't I kill those? |
| 00:43:34 | patlabor221 | kill them |
| 00:43:37 | patlabor221 | wipe them out |
| 00:43:43 | patlabor221 | wipe them all out |
| 00:44:07 | captain_proton | what about SDL_GL_GetAttribute( SDL_GL_STENCIL_SIZE, &size); |
| 00:44:19 | captain_proton | looks unnecessary |
| 00:44:22 | patlabor221 | it was just in one of the samples |
| 00:44:56 | captain_proton | hmm, one strange thing |
| 00:45:08 | captain_proton | as the fade begins there's a frame with full opacity on the new panel |
| 00:45:23 | patlabor221 | odd |
| 00:45:39 | patlabor221 | that is not begoten here |
| 00:46:52 | captain_proton | decides its been too long since he's watched gladiator |
| 00:47:18 | patlabor221 | thinks that this is why debugers are usefull |
| 00:47:28 | captain_proton | i used a debugger |
| 00:47:29 | captain_proton | didn't help |
| 00:50:15 | captain_proton | well |
| 00:50:23 | captain_proton | now, to finish up this panel manager |
| 01:00:26 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, what are your thoughts about adding a font metric definition to the CUIFont stuff? |
| 01:04:09 | patlabor221 | I had thought about that |
| 01:04:15 | patlabor221 | I do not like the monospaced stuff |
| 01:10:25 | captain_proton | wants to use the papyrus font for everything |
| 01:10:42 | patlabor221 | and you can, for your game |
| 01:11:40 | captain_proton | right now, i can't ;) |
| 01:11:50 | patlabor221 | sure you can |
| 01:11:57 | patlabor221 | it'll just look like crap |
| 01:12:40 | captain_proton | heh |
| 01:12:59 | patlabor221 | I am not adverse to replacing it with something else |
| 01:13:07 | patlabor221 | as long as it's easy to make the font |
| 01:13:08 | patlabor221 | fast |
| 01:13:19 | patlabor221 | and can be hooked into that API |
| 01:13:23 | patlabor221 | and can take a color |
| 01:14:43 | captain_proton | c h i c k e n |
| 01:14:49 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:15:02 | patlabor221 | I just don't know what else to replace it with |
| 01:15:05 | captain_proton | is eating chicken |
| 01:15:11 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 01:15:13 | patlabor221 | chicken good |
| 01:32:49 | iLL_Away | anyone know offhand what would happen if I send the rand function the same values for low and high? |
| 01:33:02 | iLL_Away | will it return the same value or 0 or what |
| 01:33:08 | captain_proton | probably get that value back |
| 01:33:12 | iLL_Away | hmm |
| 01:33:13 | jzaun | iLL_Away: Should get that value back |
| 01:33:30 | iLL_Away | thanks |
| 01:33:34 | jzaun | though it depends on the implimentation of the rand funciton |
| 01:33:39 | iLL_Away | heh |
| 01:34:51 | iLL_Away | sheesh i'm making a quicky world generator in c++ |
| 01:35:03 | iLL_Away | seems that the command line parser is gonna be the bulk of the code =P |
| 01:37:47 | captain_proton | could use getopt or popt |
| 01:40:34 | iLL_Away | I thought of that but I like more descriptive switches |
| 01:40:37 | iLL_Away | not just one char |
| 01:40:45 | captain_proton | both of those support long options |
| 01:42:02 | iLL_Away | hmm |
| 01:44:38 | iLL_Away | hmm I thought getopt was for one char flags mostly |
| 01:44:50 | iLL_Away | like -x not -xmax -ymax |
| 01:45:35 | captain_proton | getopt does -x and --xmax |
| 01:45:41 | captain_proton | but not -xmax |
| 01:45:47 | iLL_Away | ah hmm |
| 01:46:03 | iLL_Away | does it have to have a short and a long for each? |
| 01:46:17 | iLL_Away | i'm reading the manpage as we speak |
| 01:46:22 | iLL_Away | just a bit cryptic |
| 01:46:42 | sussudio | you're actually READING a manpage?? |
| 01:46:45 | sussudio | oh my god |
| 01:47:00 | iLL_Away | heh well they can be quite helpful |
| 01:47:11 | sussudio | they're not meant for reading..... they're there to tell users to RTFM |
| 01:47:21 | captain_proton | now understands why sussudio seems to have so many problems with things |
| 01:47:34 | sussudio | do not |
| 01:47:42 | patlabor221 | there's a F*king manual??????????!???!?!? |
| 01:47:53 | sussudio | patlabor221: yes, it's called kama sutra |
| 01:48:08 | patlabor221 | for linux |
| 01:48:11 | patlabor221 | how odd |
| 01:48:21 | patlabor221 | didn't see anything in there about root |
| 01:49:56 | captain_proton | its all about the fscking |
| 01:50:16 | iLL_Away | hmm |
| 01:50:25 | iLL_Away | I think it'll be easier for me to stick with what i've got |
| 01:50:34 | iLL_Away | probably take me forever to figure out the long options |
| 01:50:35 | iLL_Away | heh |
| 01:50:37 | captain_proton | and depending on what you're into, maybe throw a cat in there once in a while |
| 01:57:25 | captain_proton | hmm, strange |
| 01:57:32 | captain_proton | PanelMngr.cpp:61: `fstream' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 01:59:51 | iLL_Away | srand(time(0));// generate random seed |
| 02:00:01 | iLL_Away | hmm for some reason in my c++ progie the compiler is complaining |
| 02:00:13 | captain_proton | try srand(time(NULL)); |
| 02:00:20 | iLL_Away | platform_new.cc:11: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `srand' with no type |
| 02:00:20 | iLL_Away | platform_new.cc:11: `int srand' redeclared as different kind of symbol |
| 02:00:20 | iLL_Away | /usr/include/stdlib.h:448: previous declaration of `void srand(unsigned int)' |
| 02:00:35 | iLL_Away | hmm |
| 02:00:43 | iLL_Away | trying now |
| 02:01:09 | iLL_Away | hmm |
| 02:01:11 | iLL_Away | still doesn't like it |
| 02:01:22 | captain_proton | show me what line 11 looks like |
| 02:01:39 | iLL_Away | thats the line |
| 02:01:41 | iLL_Away | srand(time(0));// generate random seed |
| 02:02:01 | captain_proton | what compiler?? |
| 02:02:54 | iLL_Away | neener@lucifer:~> g++ --version |
| 02:02:54 | iLL_Away | g++ (GCC) 3.1.1 |
| 02:03:09 | captain_proton | upgrade ;) |
| 02:03:15 | patlabor221 | it can't find fstream? |
| 02:03:24 | captain_proton | patlabor221: apparently |
| 02:03:31 | iLL_Away | hrm |
| 02:04:25 | captain_proton | oops |
| 02:04:30 | captain_proton | std::fstream |
| 02:04:33 | captain_proton | is a fool |
| 02:04:42 | iLL_Away | well i'm doing namespace action |
| 02:04:50 | iLL_Away | uhm |
| 02:04:56 | iLL_Away | using namespace std; |
| 02:05:28 | iLL_Away | doesn't know what fstream has to do with srand tho |
| 02:05:45 | captain_proton | nothing |
| 02:06:00 | iLL_Away | oh heh different problem heh |
| 02:07:42 | captain_proton | gcc 3.2 is sooo nice |
| 02:07:48 | captain_proton | terminate called after throwing a `std::logic_error' |
| 02:07:48 | captain_proton | what(): attempt to create string with null pointer |
| 02:08:09 | patlabor221 | that is nice |
| 02:10:09 | Widget | patlabor221: Can MSVC++ do that? |
| 02:10:17 | patlabor221 | I think so |
| 02:10:41 | patlabor221 | 7.0 I think does it |
| 02:10:54 | patlabor221 | it catches all kinds of stuff |
| 02:10:59 | patlabor221 | too bad it's slow |
| 02:11:13 | patlabor221 | boundshceker on 6 does it |
| 02:11:27 | patlabor221 | it'll catch it before you compile if you want it to |
| 02:12:08 | patlabor221 | sorry boundschecker |
| 02:12:16 | captain_proton | this is just setting the terminate function |
| 02:12:39 | patlabor221 | ahh an exeption then |
| 02:12:45 | patlabor221 | yed vc can do that |
| 02:12:45 | captain_proton | it'll demangle the name of whatever was thrown, and if it inherits from std::exception it'll print the what() |
| 02:15:57 | Widget | Are there obfuscators for C, like Java? |
| 02:16:16 | patlabor221 | i'm sure there are |
| 02:17:09 | Widget | bzbot come back! |
| 02:17:42 | patlabor221 | it just qit |
| 02:17:47 | patlabor221 | how can it be back |
| 02:21:55 | Widget | Hm... out of the 13 people here there should be about 1.1 left handers. |
| 02:21:59 | Widget | I constitute 1... |
| 02:22:02 | Widget | Where's the other .1? |
| 02:22:15 | patlabor221 | in the bin |
| 02:22:37 | Widget | bin? |
| 02:23:03 | Widget | Was ist ein bin? |
| 02:23:15 | patlabor221 | rubbish |
| 02:23:16 | patlabor221 | bin |
| 02:23:19 | patlabor221 | trash can |
| 02:23:20 | Widget | Oh. |
| 02:23:41 | patlabor221 | I am missing a bone in my left hand, maybe that's it |
| 02:37:22 | paul | i'm left handed |
| 02:40:50 | bzdoug | I am lefthanded |
| 02:41:03 | bzdoug | and its bed time |
| 02:43:25 | Widget | Wow. |
| 02:43:27 | Widget | 3/13. |
| 02:43:32 | Widget | :) :) |
| 02:43:41 | Widget | paul: Do you know the words to Het Wilhelmus? |
| 02:43:46 | Widget | paul: I know it!!!!! |
| 02:44:06 | paul | no, i dont. |
| 02:44:14 | paul | you know far too much Widget |
| 02:44:28 | paul | screws silencer on to his gloch |
| 02:44:36 | Widget | I can't pronounce it correctly... |
| 02:44:41 | Widget | But I can spell it. |
| 02:44:46 | paul | go on |
| 02:44:47 | Widget | Wilhelmus van Nassauwe... |
| 02:44:54 | Widget | Ben ik van Duitsen bloed..... |
| 02:45:18 | paul | is that it? |
| 02:45:18 | Widget | Den vaderland getrouwe.... |
| 02:45:25 | Widget | Blijf ik tot in den doed... |
| 02:45:45 | Widget | Een Prinse van Oranjan.... |
| 02:45:59 | Widget | Ben ik vrij onverveerd..... |
| 02:46:06 | Widget | Den Koning van Hispanje.. |
| 02:46:14 | Widget | Heb ik altijd geerd.. |
| 02:46:28 | Widget | In een groen groen groen groen knollen knollenland, daar zaten twee haasjes heel parmant. En de n die blies de luite fluite fluit en de ander sloeg de trom-mel. Toen kwam opeens een jager jagerman en die heeft er n ge-scho-ten. En dat heeft toen naar men denken denken kan, de ander zeer ver-dro-ten. |
| 02:46:33 | sussudio | daar komt swiebertje..... daar komt swiebertje..... |
| 02:46:46 | paul | :) |
| 02:47:21 | paul | even wachten.... pizza. |
| 02:48:00 | sussudio | willempie hoor je overal |
| 02:48:34 | sussudio | -|- (Toontje_Lager)_Stiekem_Gedanst.mp3 (3,439,120 bytes 128kbps Joint Stereo 3mins 35secs Genre:Pop Year:1983 Album:Stiekem Dansen |
| 02:48:49 | Widget | What is that song BTW? |
| 02:48:59 | sussudio | ? |
| 02:49:04 | paul | twas een eksterje en die beestje kon niet kakken, omdat een veertje aan zijn poepertje was blijven plakken, en hij zij verdit en hij zij verdat and hij zij verdommen, hoe is dat veertje aan mijn poepertje gekomen. |
| 02:49:17 | corndawg | hi hi hi |
| 02:49:35 | paul | god i should go to bed.. |
| 02:49:44 | sussudio | naar bed naar bed zei duimelot |
| 02:49:45 | paul | right.. |
| 02:49:47 | paul | bed. |
| 02:49:48 | Widget | kent vele Nederlandse liederen niet. |
| 02:50:02 | paul | ook niet |
| 02:50:29 | Widget | Wie is Duimlot? |
| 02:50:44 | sussudio | related to likkepot |
| 02:50:50 | paul | :) |
| 02:50:59 | Widget | Wie es likkepot!?!? |
| 02:51:34 | sussudio | family of lange jaap |
| 02:51:44 | paul | ha ha |
| 02:51:51 | paul | ik ga pitten. |
| 02:51:56 | paul | nacht allemaal. |
| 02:52:00 | paul | nighty night |
| 02:52:02 | sussudio | cu |
| 02:52:06 | Widget | Ga naar bed! |
| 02:52:13 | Widget | paul: Bye. |
| 02:52:15 | sussudio | -|- (Doe_maar)_Nachtzuster.mp3 (3,651,936 bytes 128kbps Joint Stereo 3mins 49secs Genre:Ska Year:1983 Album:4 us |
| 02:52:23 | corndawg | heh |
| 02:52:31 | corndawg | intresting mp3 script tho |
| 02:53:37 | sussudio | where's trilithium when you need it |
| 02:53:47 | sussudio | just when it starts to cool down a bit the damn sun is coming up again |
| 02:54:01 | corndawg | lol |
| 03:38:56 | Patlabor221 | hey cap: you got that logo for jestream still around? |
| 03:39:11 | Patlabor221 | I guess that is a no |
| 03:39:29 | Patlabor221 | or a yess |
| 03:39:37 | Patlabor221 | perhaps a maybe |
| 03:40:29 | Patlabor221 | hey cap: you got that logo for jestream still around? |
| 03:41:15 | captain_proton | hellll ya |
| 03:41:31 | Patlabor221 | perhaps can I see it again |
| 03:42:18 | captain_proton | lemme upload it to a different server (one it was on got crashed :P) |
| 03:42:38 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.flatirons.org/jetstream-1.png |
| 03:43:06 | Patlabor221 | got one without the flare? |
| 03:43:43 | captain_proton | oh hmm thats a screenshot |
| 03:43:46 | captain_proton | lemme try to find the logo |
| 03:44:07 | captain_proton | gonna have to re-export |
| 03:44:12 | Patlabor221 | it's ok |
| 03:44:15 | Patlabor221 | don't worry bout it |
| 03:44:18 | Patlabor221 | this is fine |
| 03:44:37 | captain_proton | whatcha want with it? |
| 03:45:01 | Patlabor221 | bwahahahahahahah |
| 03:45:24 | captain_proton | gets worried |
| 03:45:52 | Patlabor221 | ohh don't be |
| 03:46:00 | Patlabor221 | have I ever done anything realy realy evil? |
| 03:46:15 | captain_proton | yes |
| 03:46:19 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 03:46:22 | captain_proton | um... |
| 03:46:29 | captain_proton | hungarian notation in C++ |
| 03:46:37 | Patlabor221 | it was fake ungarian |
| 03:46:43 | Patlabor221 | and that's not evil |
| 03:47:32 | captain_proton | so what do you want with it? |
| 03:47:57 | Patlabor221 | you shall see |
| 03:48:03 | Patlabor221 | in like 5 min |
| 03:48:09 | captain_proton | fj33rs |
| 03:50:16 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:50:20 | captain_proton | xine 0.9.13 is a slick beast |
| 03:53:41 | corndawg | re |
| 03:55:03 | Patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com |
| 03:55:16 | captain_proton | continues fj33ring |
| 03:55:21 | Patlabor221 | ohh don't |
| 03:55:29 | captain_proton | hahahaha |
| 03:55:30 | captain_proton | niiiice |
| 03:55:31 | corndawg | hum... maybe i should change to muh bzflag nick |
| 03:55:32 | Patlabor221 | seee |
| 03:56:12 | Patlabor221 | I should put one of your ships flying overhead in BZA every so often |
| 03:56:23 | bandit | there heh |
| 03:56:31 | Patlabor221 | where is smokey |
| 03:57:06 | corndawg | maybe not... already owned |
| 03:57:54 | captain_proton | its smokey here |
| 03:58:01 | Patlabor221 | how about bzcorn |
| 03:58:28 | captain_proton | hmm, speaking of libraries |
| 03:58:36 | Patlabor221 | cap you need a little tag line for jestream |
| 03:58:38 | captain_proton | i should finish up this last little bit and coooode ya |
| 03:58:55 | Patlabor221 | like "jetstream: like starfox, but not" |
| 03:59:13 | captain_proton | haha |
| 03:59:19 | Patlabor221 | I will have a interm ship for you to use to test by this weekend |
| 03:59:24 | Patlabor221 | i didn't make it |
| 03:59:35 | Patlabor221 | but it will work enought for you to get codeing |
| 04:00:04 | Patlabor221 | I just have to seperate it all out into multiple parts so it will blow up for you |
| 04:00:14 | corndawg | code for bzflag? |
| 04:00:21 | captain_proton | corndawg: no |
| 04:00:26 | corndawg | ah.. k |
| 04:00:29 | Patlabor221 | it seems I have not been able to get the modeling grove on lately |
| 04:00:40 | Patlabor221 | it's code for something much more scarey |
| 04:00:48 | corndawg | lol uh oh |
| 04:00:50 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i'll come up with a tagline once my story-guy gets back to me |
| 04:01:10 | Patlabor221 | corn:www.artemisgames.com/bza |
| 04:01:21 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: you got one, very nice |
| 04:02:27 | Patlabor221 | works on a prefs class |
| 04:02:40 | Patlabor221 | I wonder if I could set up a CVS somewhere |
| 04:03:01 | corndawg | k... on muh way |
| 04:03:12 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I wonder if there is a sourcesafe client for lin |
| 04:03:45 | captain_proton | i can set up a CVS somewhere |
| 04:04:30 | corndawg | damn... that looks slick |
| 04:04:37 | corndawg | it for linux? |
| 04:04:48 | Patlabor221 | it will be for both |
| 04:04:52 | corndawg | ah |
| 04:04:55 | Patlabor221 | hence why cap is working on the libs |
| 04:05:01 | corndawg | <-- only wants linux version :) |
| 04:05:04 | captain_proton | platform-agnostic, as they say |
| 04:05:10 | corndawg | could careless bout winblows heh |
| 04:05:31 | Patlabor221 | well that's what it's bein made on |
| 04:05:48 | Patlabor221 | gotta get another lin machine |
| 04:05:54 | Patlabor221 | laptop don't cut it |
| 04:06:16 | Patlabor221 | proalby should find some mac hippie to port it to that too :) |
| 04:06:25 | captain_proton | Widget! you're needed! |
| 04:06:34 | corndawg | lol |
| 04:06:47 | Patlabor221 | I congure WIDGET!!!!! |
| 04:06:53 | captain_proton | not conjure |
| 04:06:56 | captain_proton | SUMMON! |
| 04:07:06 | captain_proton | lights a pentagram of flame |
| 04:07:14 | Patlabor221 | that is conguration |
| 04:07:26 | Patlabor221 | last time she abjured bzfrank |
| 04:07:33 | Patlabor221 | looks for material components |
| 04:07:50 | Patlabor221 | shouts in the general direction of new zeeland |
| 04:07:52 | captain_proton | feels like a farking blowfish right now |
| 04:08:06 | Patlabor221 | well you have had your face riped apart |
| 04:08:41 | Patlabor221 | hmmm widgets whois is difrent today |
| 04:10:14 | captain_proton | hmm, better just keep eating my ice cream |
| 04:10:34 | Patlabor221 | hmm I guess you confuse the hell outa the compiler when you give it a .xpp file |
| 04:10:40 | captain_proton | .xpp? |
| 04:10:44 | Patlabor221 | I mistyped |
| 04:10:51 | Patlabor221 | eXtreem C ++ :) |
| 04:11:39 | corndawg | ok.... bzflag time... bbl |
| 04:11:39 | Patlabor221 | must remember "case sensitive includes" |
| 04:11:51 | Patlabor221 | puts a sticky on his monitors |
| 04:12:42 | captain_proton | dances |
| 04:13:09 | Patlabor221 | ohh I know I'll screw it up at one point |
| 04:13:19 | Patlabor221 | but not that the libs work on lin |
| 04:13:29 | Patlabor221 | I can at least compile after I make stuff |
| 04:13:39 | Patlabor221 | and see for my self where I jones it |
| 04:14:05 | Patlabor221 | almost bought another athalon XP1700+ today for a good lin machine |
| 04:14:06 | captain_proton | ready to get all the source stuff for jetstream? |
| 04:14:13 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 04:14:44 | Patlabor221 | wow look at that fly |
| 04:15:10 | captain_proton | shaddup |
| 04:15:59 | captain_proton | bjorkey time |
| 04:16:10 | Patlabor221 | I found the bjork font :) |
| 04:16:35 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:16:42 | captain_proton | ponders adding font metrics |
| 04:18:39 | Patlabor221 | are widgets the pannel items? |
| 04:18:48 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 04:18:50 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 04:19:14 | captain_proton | the parse code is somewhat of a mess |
| 04:19:15 | Patlabor221 | can proalby remove that whole "SME load" crap from the texture manager |
| 04:19:15 | Widget | You called? |
| 04:19:22 | Patlabor221 | there you are |
| 04:19:24 | captain_proton | but its more fun that way |
| 04:19:31 | Patlabor221 | make us mac verisons |
| 04:19:51 | Patlabor221 | :):):):) |
| 04:20:44 | Patlabor221 | nothing makes SME files except for a custom photoshop plugin I have here |
| 04:20:51 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:20:59 | captain_proton | might as well leave it in |
| 04:21:01 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 04:21:20 | captain_proton | best part is all of this compiles in gcc 3.2 with no warnings |
| 04:21:37 | Patlabor221 | ohh don't worry I"ll add some :) |
| 04:21:41 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:21:50 | captain_proton | i'm sure |
| 04:22:07 | captain_proton | all your NULL vs '\0' thingies pissed me off |
| 04:22:20 | Patlabor221 | well it works here |
| 04:22:23 | Patlabor221 | and on mac |
| 04:22:32 | Patlabor221 | didn't know it wouldn't work there |
| 04:22:38 | captain_proton | oh, it works |
| 04:22:42 | captain_proton | just spits out warnings |
| 04:22:55 | Patlabor221 | warning against what? |
| 04:23:05 | Patlabor221 | what part of it is there to warn |
| 04:23:07 | captain_proton | assigning NULL to non-pointer value |
| 04:23:14 | Patlabor221 | NULL is zero |
| 04:23:20 | captain_proton | not necessarily |
| 04:23:23 | Patlabor221 | hence NULL terminated string |
| 04:23:31 | Patlabor221 | when isn't it? |
| 04:23:32 | captain_proton | its nul terminated, not NULL |
| 04:24:01 | captain_proton | for all practical purposes, NULL = 0. but ANSI specifies to use the symbol NULL for pointers only |
| 04:24:27 | | widget was last seen on #bzflag 2 minutes and 37 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Sat Aug 17 05:21:50 2002] |
| 04:24:27 | ski | ibot seen widget? |
| 04:24:29 | Patlabor221 | son of a |
| 04:24:47 | Patlabor221 | says I don't have gnuc++ |
| 04:25:15 | Patlabor221 | __gnu_cxx undelcared iedntifyer |
| 04:25:22 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 04:25:24 | captain_proton | kill that line |
| 04:25:31 | Widget | hihihi, ski. |
| 04:25:38 | captain_proton | that was for the exit handler |
| 04:25:53 | Widget | Oh. |
| 04:25:54 | Widget | He left. |
| 04:26:28 | Patlabor221 | widget would you be interested in making our little libs work on the Mac? |
| 04:26:43 | Widget | knows little about Macintosh programming. |
| 04:27:12 | Patlabor221 | help us widget you are our only hope |
| 04:27:19 | Widget | Ask eddienull. :) |
| 04:27:22 | captain_proton | oh well, guess we can't do mac |
| 04:27:26 | captain_proton | sobs |
| 04:27:50 | Patlabor221 | widget you busted out that map thing well enough |
| 04:28:02 | Patlabor221 | and it uses SDL |
| 04:28:10 | Widget | What map thing? |
| 04:28:12 | Widget | It uses SDL? |
| 04:28:15 | Patlabor221 | the mase thing |
| 04:28:20 | Patlabor221 | our stuff uses SDL |
| 04:28:32 | Patlabor221 | the onlything that would need the mac is the texture loader |
| 04:28:44 | captain_proton | hmm Patlabor221 - perhaps you can find the 1.0alpha frame bug |
| 04:28:59 | Patlabor221 | I shall look at it |
| 04:29:08 | Patlabor221 | I don't get that in my BZA |
| 04:29:15 | Patlabor221 | but then I don't have a pannel manager |
| 04:30:18 | Patlabor221 | whoot runs like compete crap on the laptop :) |
| 04:30:38 | Patlabor221 | now to winify this sucker |
| 04:30:40 | Widget | I don't know how SDL works. |
| 04:30:45 | Widget | And I don't know what a texture loader is. |
| 04:30:52 | Patlabor221 | we have code for it all |
| 04:30:54 | Widget | And all I know about libs is that I can apt-get them. |
| 04:31:09 | Patlabor221 | just need someone with a mac to try and make them |
| 04:31:13 | Patlabor221 | and see what happens |
| 04:31:18 | Patlabor221 | see what work needs to be done |
| 04:31:24 | Widget | OK. |
| 04:31:30 | Widget | You can send it, and I can try to make it. |
| 04:32:52 | Widget | Hm.... this means I'll have to download this onto my own computer somehow... |
| 04:33:01 | Widget | And the remote computer doesn't have ftpd running. |
| 04:34:46 | Patlabor221 | flopy |
| 04:34:57 | Patlabor221 | hitting F7 and praying |
| 04:35:22 | Patlabor221 | not bad cap, only 2 errors in LGE |
| 04:35:36 | captain_proton | what would those be? |
| 04:36:00 | Patlabor221 | one is a multiple redef of "i" in one of the file loaders |
| 04:36:11 | Patlabor221 | and the other is strcasecmp |
| 04:36:21 | Patlabor221 | easy to change for working on both systems |
| 04:36:31 | Patlabor221 | I just made i local to the func |
| 04:36:34 | captain_proton | hmm, thought i #define'd strcasecmp |
| 04:36:39 | Patlabor221 | yeah I'll check it |
| 04:37:14 | Patlabor221 | you did but you did it backwards :) |
| 04:37:18 | Patlabor221 | #define stricmp strcasecmp |
| 04:37:25 | Patlabor221 | not #define strcasecmp stricmp |
| 04:37:43 | Patlabor221 | cus you use strcasecmp in the code |
| 04:37:49 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:38:40 | Patlabor221 | there one LGE DLL |
| 04:39:18 | captain_proton | grins |
| 04:41:53 | Patlabor221 | there debug and release |
| 04:42:50 | Patlabor221 | now texman |
| 04:46:31 | captain_proton | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 04:46:40 | MrApathyCream | hi |
| 04:46:50 | Widget | hihihi, MrApathyCream. |
| 04:46:55 | MrApathyCream | see crs' email? pixar... lucky dog |
| 04:47:13 | Widget | Sag das Zauberwort und du hast die Macht, halt den Mondstein fest und spür die Kraft. |
| 04:51:56 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: yeah, i'm so jealous |
| 04:52:08 | captain_proton | notices a forboding silence from Patlabor221's corner of the room |
| 04:52:14 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: same i redeff in tex man |
| 04:52:29 | Patlabor221 | ohh just geting the DLLs to go the right place that's all |
| 04:52:35 | Patlabor221 | and making projects for them |
| 04:53:08 | mhall | Can someone help me with Windows video mode issues in 1.7e6? |
| 04:53:33 | mhall | It barely worked in 1.7e4 and in e6 BZFlag crashes my video. |
| 04:53:39 | Patlabor221 | what card? |
| 04:53:42 | Widget | Pokémon Komm schnapp' sie dir! |
| 04:53:55 | Widget | Pokémon Du mein bester Freund, komm' retten wir die Welt. |
| 04:53:56 | mhall | GeForce4 Ti4400 overclocked to Ti4600 |
| 04:54:05 | mhall | It's stable in Linux. |
| 04:54:06 | Patlabor221 | what drivers? |
| 04:54:16 | mhall | 29.42 NVidia Detonator |
| 04:54:21 | Patlabor221 | oft |
| 04:54:24 | mhall | is downloading 30.82 |
| 04:54:32 | Patlabor221 | those are the odest ones that support the 4 |
| 04:54:36 | Patlabor221 | yeah get the latest |
| 04:54:47 | Patlabor221 | yours varely support a GF4 |
| 04:54:59 | mhall | 29.42 is the second most recent after 30.82 |
| 04:55:10 | mhall | And 28.xx did GeForce4, albeit poorly. |
| 04:55:11 | MrApathyCream | 30.82? |
| 04:55:15 | MrApathyCream | goes and looks |
| 04:55:25 | mhall | But all three versions seem to be troublesome. |
| 04:55:41 | mhall | I am wondering how different the videomode code is between Lin and Win. |
| 04:55:50 | mhall | The Linux Detonators work great... |
| 04:56:09 | Patlabor221 | I have no problems on my GF4 4600 with the current drivers |
| 04:56:11 | mhall | MrApathyCream: Yeah. A new release. w00t! |
| 04:56:27 | mhall | Patlabor221: Well *hopefully* it works. |
| 04:56:29 | mhall | prays. |
| 04:56:33 | Patlabor221 | the win code uses Direct X to enumerate the vid modes |
| 04:56:36 | Patlabor221 | I wrote it |
| 04:56:47 | Patlabor221 | if your drivers are crap then it won't return good info |
| 04:57:11 | MrApathyCream | i used 29.42 with gef3 with no probs on windoz |
| 04:57:12 | mhall | Patlabor221: I wonder if something is tweaked besides the Detonators (not necessarily BZFlag) |
| 04:57:30 | mhall | Patlabor221: Maybe my monitor definition files are screwed? |
| 04:57:30 | MrApathyCream | downloads 30.82 |
| 04:57:32 | Patlabor221 | there isn't much else beside DX and the drivers |
| 04:57:41 | Patlabor221 | what DX you have installed? |
| 04:58:08 | mhall | The 8.1a |
| 04:58:11 | Patlabor221 | ok that's good |
| 04:58:27 | mhall | Like I think that's the newest. |
| 04:58:28 | Patlabor221 | does the display controol pannel know what monitor you have? |
| 04:58:32 | Patlabor221 | that is |
| 04:58:43 | Patlabor221 | and did you do antying to tweak it? |
| 04:58:54 | mhall | Patlabor221: Yeah I put in the definitions for it from the Sylvania website. |
| 04:58:58 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 04:59:06 | mhall | Patlabor221: I didn't screw with the monitor definitions. |
| 04:59:16 | Patlabor221 | ok then you should be fine |
| 04:59:25 | mhall | Patlabor221: They seemed to produce damn accurate color and good refresh rates out of the box. |
| 04:59:28 | Patlabor221 | you just have some serious crap drivers there |
| 04:59:41 | Patlabor221 | that's just the color def stuff |
| 04:59:49 | mhall | Patlabor221: My screen looks almost exactly like my printouts. I guess the monitor company did a good job. |
| 04:59:53 | Patlabor221 | all the modes are detected by the card anyay |
| 04:59:56 | corndawg | ok... wth is teamkiller? |
| 05:00:10 | Patlabor221 | just install those new ones |
| 05:00:24 | Patlabor221 | I didn't even bother with those old ones |
| 05:00:27 | mhall | Patlabor221: I know this monitor doesn't report some of its 85hz overdrive modes on EDID. |
| 05:00:29 | corndawg | anyone know? |
| 05:00:35 | mhall | Patlabor221: Will that goof up anything? |
| 05:01:19 | Patlabor221 | not it should not |
| 05:01:24 | mhall | ok |
| 05:01:27 | mhall | time to reboot then |
| 05:01:36 | mhall | will you be around another five minutes? |
| 05:01:37 | Patlabor221 | good luck |
| 05:01:45 | Patlabor221 | victory or death and all that |
| 05:01:46 | Patlabor221 | I shall |
| 05:01:50 | mhall | great |
| 05:01:52 | mhall | brb |
| 05:02:12 | Patlabor221 | tex man is done |
| 05:02:26 | captain_proton | woo |
| 05:02:36 | Widget | Patlabor221: Could you post that jetstream.tar on the web? |
| 05:02:43 | MrApathyCream | corndawg: what's the question? |
| 05:02:45 | captain_proton | fj33rs |
| 05:02:47 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: is that ok with you? |
| 05:03:04 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah, just don't give it out to everybody and their mother |
| 05:03:26 | Patlabor221 | Widget: sure just don't give it to your mom |
| 05:03:30 | captain_proton | i demand licensing fees! |
| 05:03:33 | Patlabor221 | no mater how much she askes |
| 05:03:42 | Patlabor221 | tell her it's for her own good |
| 05:03:48 | Patlabor221 | for what? cap? |
| 05:03:50 | captain_proton | (which it is) |
| 05:03:51 | corndawg | MrApathyCream: whos teamkiller? |
| 05:04:03 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: for the SME image format ;) |
| 05:04:13 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 05:04:16 | Patlabor221 | I made the thing |
| 05:04:23 | MrApathyCream | corndawg: dunno |
| 05:04:24 | corndawg | sob just joined... twas on the same team as me.. and shot the hell outta me |
| 05:04:29 | corndawg | damn idjit |
| 05:04:41 | captain_proton | grins |
| 05:04:49 | Patlabor221 | I wrote my own format plugin for photoshop based on there samples |
| 05:04:59 | Patlabor221 | it's a simple format |
| 05:05:05 | Patlabor221 | hence the "S" in it |
| 05:05:23 | Patlabor221 | can you make a gimp plugin? |
| 05:05:27 | Widget | Patlabor221: Where did you get the Sailor Moon Titelsong? Do they also have Pokémon? |
| 05:05:42 | Patlabor221 | I don't recall where I got it, I"m sorry |
| 05:05:45 | captain_proton | hmm, probably would not be too terribly hard to make a gimp plugin |
| 05:05:54 | Patlabor221 | I can try searching kazza |
| 05:06:13 | Widget | I wish KaZaA still had a Linux version... or a Mac OS X version. |
| 05:06:19 | corndawg | yea nk Widget |
| 05:06:34 | corndawg | winmx would be nice for linux to |
| 05:06:40 | Widget | Winmx? |
| 05:06:40 | corndawg | lopster just doesnt get everything |
| 05:06:46 | Widget | What's Winmx? |
| 05:06:51 | corndawg | winmx is like kazaa |
| 05:06:54 | corndawg | www.winmx.com |
| 05:07:10 | Patlabor221 | I am trying to download it now |
| 05:07:16 | Patlabor221 | there are 4 people with it |
| 05:07:17 | captain_proton | winmx is an opennap client |
| 05:07:19 | Patlabor221 | damn |
| 05:07:23 | corndawg | yea |
| 05:07:31 | corndawg | yall ever tried lopster? |
| 05:07:36 | Widget | Wow.... KaZaA actually HAD the Pokemon title song in German? |
| 05:07:39 | corndawg | its only for linux tho |
| 05:07:41 | Widget | Is Lopster available for Linux or OS X? |
| 05:07:47 | Widget | Does it have good selection? |
| 05:07:48 | corndawg | linux only Widget |
| 05:07:57 | corndawg | well... lopster can emulate winmx |
| 05:08:01 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: check the title on artemisgames.com |
| 05:08:06 | Widget | Ah, it's a GTK+ Napster client. |
| 05:08:10 | corndawg | so ya get more search results |
| 05:08:25 | corndawg | but not as many as ya get with winmx or kazaa |
| 05:08:44 | Widget | Downloading it now... |
| 05:08:45 | captain_proton | laments for audiogalaxy |
| 05:08:47 | corndawg | k |
| 05:08:56 | Widget | I know, Audiogalaxy is nice. |
| 05:09:02 | captain_proton | was |
| 05:09:02 | captain_proton | not is |
| 05:09:03 | corndawg | cap... i had a hard time with audiogalaxy |
| 05:09:04 | Widget | corndawg: It's a Napster client... so will it still work? |
| 05:09:08 | Patlabor221 | law suit |
| 05:09:11 | corndawg | yep Widget |
| 05:09:22 | corndawg | Widget: lopster uses the opennap servers |
| 05:09:24 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: looks like I'll have to define the long long thing |
| 05:09:34 | Widget | corndawg: Hm.... where can you get a Username and Password? |
| 05:09:41 | Widget | And which server to use? |
| 05:09:48 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ahh, just def to LONGLONG (i think was the name) |
| 05:09:50 | corndawg | just type one one Widget |
| 05:09:53 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:09:58 | corndawg | i use the servers with the most gigs of stuff |
| 05:10:10 | corndawg | generally the first 4-5 networks |
| 05:10:23 | Widget | corndawg: one and one as the username and password? |
| 05:10:31 | corndawg | ya can |
| 05:10:32 | Patlabor221 | allright widget you want it? |
| 05:10:39 | Widget | Patlabor221: Wow, you have it? |
| 05:10:45 | Patlabor221 | OMG |
| 05:10:49 | corndawg | most of the opennap servers dont require you to register |
| 05:10:51 | Patlabor221 | OMFG |
| 05:11:03 | Patlabor221 | ohh it's not the whole thing |
| 05:11:08 | mhall | prepares to test. |
| 05:11:08 | captain_proton | wonders what Patlabor221 is screaming about |
| 05:11:09 | Patlabor221 | that is not something that should be heard |
| 05:11:18 | Patlabor221 | pokemon theme song in german |
| 05:11:23 | Patlabor221 | it's just not right |
| 05:11:29 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:11:36 | Widget | Haha. |
| 05:11:50 | Patlabor221 | I mean it's worong on many many levels |
| 05:12:07 | Patlabor221 | I got the first half |
| 05:12:25 | mhall | Patlabor221 Pokemon is wrong on many, many levels in any language. |
| 05:12:31 | Patlabor221 | this is true |
| 05:12:37 | corndawg | heh |
| 05:12:43 | corndawg | pokemon just sucks |
| 05:12:46 | Widget | corndawg: Which servers do you use? |
| 05:12:49 | mhall | can talk German and shudders to think what German Pokemon would be like. |
| 05:12:58 | corndawg | Widget: djnap, searchynap |
| 05:13:03 | Widget | corndawg: The servers that appeared were server.napster.com and server5.dtype.org |
| 05:13:12 | mhall | Patlabor221: Now it flashes on the mode switch when it starts instead of just going black. |
| 05:13:13 | Patlabor221 | for the love of god I have to get this off my machine |
| 05:13:18 | mhall | Patlabor221: But it still doesn't work. |
| 05:13:19 | corndawg | darkservers is another good one |
| 05:13:29 | Patlabor221 | mhall wierd |
| 05:13:34 | corndawg | Widget: right click on server screen... hit refresh |
| 05:13:45 | corndawg | there should be bout 40 different networks that pop up |
| 05:13:46 | mhall | Patlabor221: So wierd it's weird. |
| 05:13:50 | Patlabor221 | what res you trying to choose? |
| 05:13:56 | Widget | corndawg: Ahhh. |
| 05:14:00 | mhall | Patlabor221: 1280x1024@85 |
| 05:14:07 | Patlabor221 | what happens if you chose the same res and refesh as your desktop? |
| 05:14:18 | corndawg | <-- just baught a new moniter today... still playin with it |
| 05:14:23 | mhall | Patlabor221: That is what happens before I can even choose the res. |
| 05:14:31 | mhall | Patlabor221: :-& |
| 05:14:34 | Patlabor221 | edit the config file |
| 05:14:38 | mhall | Patlabor221: how? |
| 05:14:50 | Widget | mhall: OK, I added it.... now how do I connect to it? |
| 05:14:52 | Patlabor221 | bzflag.bzc in your my docs folder |
| 05:14:52 | mhall | I tried to ask how to edit it before and never was told. |
| 05:15:00 | mhall | Widget: wrong dude |
| 05:15:06 | Widget | Whoops. :) |
| 05:15:13 | Widget | corndawg: OK, I added it.... now how do I connect to it? |
| 05:15:16 | captain_proton | so Patlabor221...what is BXArena? |
| 05:15:26 | Patlabor221 | ???? |
| 05:15:33 | Patlabor221 | where? |
| 05:15:41 | corndawg | open the network ya wanna connect to.... double click on the server ya wanna connect to |
| 05:15:43 | captain_proton | look at the <title> on artemisgames.com |
| 05:15:51 | corndawg | click on the chat tab and wait to connect |
| 05:15:53 | Patlabor221 | sone of a motherless goat hearder |
| 05:16:05 | Patlabor221 | that's the eXtreem version |
| 05:16:10 | Patlabor221 | directors cut and all |
| 05:16:13 | Widget | Hm.... no search results yet. |
| 05:16:22 | corndawg | Widget: you connected to a network? |
| 05:16:33 | Widget | corndawg: What do you mean? How can I check? |
| 05:16:45 | mhall | Patlabor221: Well this is complex. |
| 05:16:53 | corndawg | Widget: click on the chat tab... youll see it connect or try to |
| 05:16:54 | mhall | Patlabor221: I tweaked it to 800x600. |
| 05:17:03 | mhall | Patlabor221: Then I started bzflag again. |
| 05:17:07 | Widget | corndawg: I have one thing in the MOTD tab. |
| 05:17:18 | mhall | Patlabor221: Same old modeswitch click. Black screen. |
| 05:17:19 | Widget | corndawg: No connections to servers. |
| 05:17:19 | Patlabor221 | no tweak it to your exacct desktop res, bit depth and refresh |
| 05:17:32 | mhall | Patlabor221: It was at my exact desktop res already. |
| 05:17:41 | Patlabor221 | same refresh and bit depth? |
| 05:17:41 | corndawg | ok.. so ya havnt clicked on a server yet |
| 05:17:42 | mhall | Patlabor221: Still black. |
| 05:17:54 | mhall | Patlabor221: 1280x1024@85hz 32bpp |
| 05:18:11 | Patlabor221 | then I don't know |
| 05:18:23 | Patlabor221 | something is screwed withy you DX enumerations |
| 05:18:29 | corndawg | Widget: see the lil squar lookin thing on the side of the networks in the network tab? click that.. youll see servers for that network pop up.. double click on one |
| 05:18:31 | Widget | corndawg: I cicked on it, and it appeared under "Selected Server". |
| 05:19:17 | Widget | corndawg: I right clicked it and selected "Connect"... nothing seemed to happen |
| 05:19:40 | corndawg | k try this... double click on the network.. it should open a server list for that network |
| 05:19:48 | mhall | Patlabor221: I'm gonna fuck with driver settings for a while. |
| 05:19:49 | Widget | Yes. |
| 05:19:55 | mhall | Patlabor221: And other DX games work. |
| 05:20:02 | mhall | Patlabor221: BZFlag is the exception. |
| 05:20:10 | Patlabor221 | very odd |
| 05:21:28 | iLLf8d | cout << "#!name box-" << current_count << endl; |
| 05:21:28 | iLLf8d | cout << "box" << endl; |
| 05:21:28 | iLLf8d | cout << "position " << x_pos << " " << y_pos << " " << z_pos << endl; |
| 05:21:28 | iLLf8d | cout << "rotation " << rotation << endl; |
| 05:21:28 | iLLf8d | cout << "size " << width << " " << length << " " << height << endl; |
| 05:21:29 | iLLf8d | cout << "end" << endl; |
| 05:21:31 | iLLf8d | cout << endl; |
| 05:21:36 | mhall | Patlabor221: Something must be wrong here. |
| 05:21:41 | iLLf8d | hey all whats the easiest way to get this to work in all quadrants? |
| 05:21:49 | iLLf8d | I can put in a sign var |
| 05:21:54 | iLLf8d | seems a kludgey way to do it |
| 05:22:01 | Widget | Patlabor221: Did you manage to find a working copy? |
| 05:22:06 | iLLf8d | I need ++, +-, -+ and -- |
| 05:22:13 | Patlabor221 | it's coming down now widget |
| 05:22:44 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: for time I had to add |
| 05:22:44 | Patlabor221 | #ifndef WIN32 |
| 05:22:44 | Patlabor221 | #define LONGLONG long long |
| 05:22:44 | Patlabor221 | #endif |
| 05:23:15 | captain_proton | ifndef? |
| 05:23:17 | Patlabor221 | and for texturemngr.h I had to change TEXTURE_MNGR_EXPORTS to TEXTUREMNGR_EXPORTS |
| 05:23:18 | corndawg | looks like VBscript kinda |
| 05:23:28 | captain_proton | oh wait a minute |
| 05:23:34 | captain_proton | you changed the 'long long's in the code to LONGLONG? |
| 05:23:37 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:23:40 | captain_proton | eww |
| 05:23:46 | captain_proton | why not do it the other way round? |
| 05:23:51 | captain_proton | can't #def with a space? |
| 05:23:58 | Patlabor221 | cus I can't # define 2 words |
| 05:24:06 | Patlabor221 | into 1 word |
| 05:24:09 | Patlabor221 | can I? |
| 05:24:22 | mhall | Damn my folding@home team is going down in rank. |
| 05:24:42 | mhall | shoots his f@h team. |
| 05:24:50 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: can I typedef it? |
| 05:25:06 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: maybe... |
| 05:25:23 | Patlabor221 | I just went with the easyer way |
| 05:25:23 | mhall | reboots to play bzflag |
| 05:25:31 | mhall | antiw00t! |
| 05:25:45 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:25:50 | captain_proton | fj33rs the all-caps types |
| 05:26:02 | Patlabor221 | well you have to deal with them some times |
| 05:26:33 | captain_proton | i'd prefer we typedef int64 or something similar |
| 05:26:37 | corndawg | grrrr... brb.. time to place a k-line |
| 05:26:45 | Patlabor221 | well crap why don't we just use the U32 that the SDL thing returns |
| 05:26:59 | captain_proton | thats a good questionio |
| 05:27:03 | Patlabor221 | only reason I needed the long long was because that's what the query performance counter needed |
| 05:28:02 | Patlabor221 | I'm gonna make them unsigned ints |
| 05:28:27 | Patlabor221 | ohh look it compiles |
| 05:28:28 | Patlabor221 | done |
| 05:28:51 | Widget | It complies with being compiled. |
| 05:29:00 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 05:29:03 | corndawg | ok back |
| 05:29:04 | Patlabor221 | and with the API |
| 05:29:08 | Patlabor221 | so it's all good |
| 05:29:13 | captain_proton | changed to unsigned int over here |
| 05:29:43 | Patlabor221 | widget it's done |
| 05:29:48 | Widget | Patlabor221: Ooooh. |
| 05:29:52 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 05:29:57 | Patlabor221 | this is bad |
| 05:30:13 | captain_proton | wonders |
| 05:30:15 | Widget | How do you mean? |
| 05:30:18 | Widget | The song itself? |
| 05:30:23 | Patlabor221 | you will have to hear |
| 05:30:27 | Patlabor221 | it's not big |
| 05:30:31 | Patlabor221 | like 900k |
| 05:30:35 | captain_proton | ohh good you were talking about a song |
| 05:30:35 | Patlabor221 | uping now |
| 05:30:37 | captain_proton | and not my code |
| 05:30:38 | captain_proton | =) |
| 05:30:49 | Patlabor221 | yeah sorry man |
| 05:31:20 | captain_proton | resumes the download of MacPlus.zip |
| 05:31:24 | Widget | Pokemon! komm schnapp sie dir, nur ich und du... |
| 05:31:30 | Widget | in allem was ich auch tue! |
| 05:31:36 | Widget | ;) ;) |
| 05:31:52 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/pokemongerman.mp3 |
| 05:32:00 | Patlabor221 | may god have mercy on your soul |
| 05:32:09 | corndawg | lol |
| 05:32:40 | Widget | It's great! |
| 05:33:02 | Patlabor221 | and you said the other one was crap? |
| 05:33:22 | Widget | Well, it's not as good as the English version. |
| 05:33:26 | Widget | But yes, this is better! ;) |
| 05:34:29 | Patlabor221 | cap I'll have to send you the pannel manager back |
| 05:34:34 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ? |
| 05:34:37 | Patlabor221 | I have to make changes to it |
| 05:34:38 | captain_proton | ohh yeah of course |
| 05:34:41 | Patlabor221 | for the DLL and stuff |
| 05:36:34 | captain_proton | you mean you're not going to sit and port it right now? |
| 05:36:40 | Patlabor221 | you know what |
| 05:36:45 | Patlabor221 | I am gonna mmake that one a lib |
| 05:36:49 | Patlabor221 | screw the DLL |
| 05:37:00 | Patlabor221 | then I can leav the STL in there |
| 05:37:11 | Patlabor221 | I don't want to have to mess with the expresion stuff |
| 05:37:55 | Patlabor221 | oh I also renamed the TexutureManager folder to TextureMngr to match the files |
| 05:38:11 | Patlabor221 | but I can change it back if it's an issue |
| 05:38:18 | captain_proton | nah directory names don't matter at all |
| 05:40:47 | captain_proton | begins looking at the SDL joystick stuff |
| 05:41:41 | Patlabor221 | I sent you my input stuff right? |
| 05:41:43 | Patlabor221 | hmmm |
| 05:41:44 | Patlabor221 | I get |
| 05:41:45 | Patlabor221 | c:\documents and settings\administrator\desktop\jetstream\panelmngr\panelmngr.cpp(85) : error C2679: binary '>>' : no operator defined which takes a right-hand operand of type 'class CStaticImageItem *' (or there is no acceptable conversion) |
| 05:41:45 | Patlabor221 | c:\documents and settings\administrator\desktop\jetstream\panelmngr\panelmngr.cpp(97) : error C2679: binary '>>' : no operator defined which takes a right-hand operand of type 'class CHoverTextButton *' (or there is no acceptable conversion) |
| 05:41:45 | Patlabor221 | c:\documents and settings\administrator\desktop\jetstream\panelmngr\panelmngr.cpp(110) : error C2679: binary '>>' : no operator defined which takes a right-hand operand of type 'class CStaticTextItem *' (or there is no acceptable conversion) |
| 05:41:58 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:42:08 | captain_proton | i'm passing a reference to the pointer, but it could likely be changed |
| 05:42:11 | Patlabor221 | gahhh put F's in your float constants man |
| 05:42:53 | corndawg | lol funny script... doesnt read harddrive size right |
| 05:42:54 | Patlabor221 | 0.1 is a double 0.1f is a float |
| 05:44:49 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: it also seems that I don't have find(items.begin(), items.end(), item) |
| 05:45:00 | captain_proton | eww |
| 05:45:19 | captain_proton | write it :) |
| 05:45:31 | Patlabor221 | just counts em up? |
| 05:45:39 | captain_proton | finds item within the range |
| 05:45:40 | Patlabor221 | ohh it's pointer math |
| 05:45:49 | captain_proton | iterator |
| 05:46:08 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: haha, got a tagline for ya |
| 05:46:16 | captain_proton | "these ain't yer average housecats" |
| 05:46:17 | Patlabor221 | hmm looks like I have it just gotta find the header |
| 05:46:22 | Patlabor221 | okay |
| 05:46:29 | captain_proton | for now, anyway |
| 05:47:09 | Patlabor221 | ahhha #include <algorithm> |
| 05:47:14 | captain_proton | yaya |
| 05:48:11 | Patlabor221 | son of a |
| 05:48:17 | Patlabor221 | it's in there |
| 05:48:22 | Patlabor221 | but it says it's undefined |
| 05:48:27 | Patlabor221 | must be a namespace thing |
| 05:48:51 | Patlabor221 | yeah I have to put std:: infornt of it |
| 05:48:56 | Patlabor221 | is that ok for you? |
| 05:49:04 | captain_proton | sure |
| 05:49:49 | Patlabor221 | now all I have is this |
| 05:49:50 | Patlabor221 | panelmngr.cpp(85) : error C2679: binary '>>' : no operator defined which takes a right-hand operand of type 'class CStaticImageItem *' (or there is no acceptable conversion) |
| 05:49:55 | Patlabor221 | 4 of em |
| 05:51:17 | captain_proton | try changing the operators to take in just a * instead of a *& |
| 05:51:18 | Patlabor221 | everything else is fine |
| 05:51:39 | Patlabor221 | they just have are |
| 05:51:39 | Patlabor221 | file >> static_cast<CStaticImageItem*>(item); |
| 05:51:59 | Patlabor221 | no & in there |
| 05:53:55 | captain_proton | i mean in Widgets.(h|cpp) and BaseUI.(h|cpp) |
| 05:54:19 | Widget | captain_proton: You called? |
| 05:54:41 | Patlabor221 | yeah doing that now |
| 05:54:50 | captain_proton | Widget: no |
| 06:01:06 | Patlabor221 | cap is it just me or did you get gameloop and main mixed up? |
| 06:01:25 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you got them mixed up (in the bza stuff you sent) - i've been meaning to change them |
| 06:01:37 | Patlabor221 | I did |
| 06:01:47 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: if you can find a short clip of these 'anime missile trails', i'll figure out a way to generate them |
| 06:01:59 | Patlabor221 | I will have to digitize them |
| 06:06:16 | Patlabor221 | wheeeeeee look at it crash |
| 06:06:50 | Patlabor221 | m_PanelStack.back()->HoverPanel((float) x, m_pLGEngine->GetWinV() - (float) y); |
| 06:06:59 | Patlabor221 | m_PanelStack is empty |
| 06:07:30 | captain_proton | hmm, it should push on 'splash' |
| 06:07:35 | captain_proton | oooh |
| 06:07:38 | captain_proton | i bet i know whats wrong |
| 06:07:43 | captain_proton | / vs \ |
| 06:08:36 | Patlabor221 | what is it? |
| 06:08:51 | captain_proton | when it does LoadAll |
| 06:08:57 | captain_proton | on linux, it adds names with /'s |
| 06:09:01 | captain_proton | on win, it uses \'s |
| 06:09:15 | Patlabor221 | ohhh see you were suposed to change that |
| 06:09:19 | Patlabor221 | they should be the same |
| 06:09:25 | Patlabor221 | for the "name" part |
| 06:09:58 | Patlabor221 | everything els builds |
| 06:10:03 | captain_proton | should change for win - / is pretter than \\ |
| 06:10:33 | Patlabor221 | as long as they are the same |
| 06:10:40 | Patlabor221 | I'll make that change then |
| 06:11:06 | Patlabor221 | when there is the optonal VFS then it will realy be nice |
| 06:11:54 | Patlabor221 | still you should put some protection in there in case there isn't a pannel stack |
| 06:11:59 | Patlabor221 | it should not crash |
| 06:12:01 | captain_proton | yeah i should |
| 06:12:26 | captain_proton | it spits out an error if one panel references another unknown panel, but not on the initial panel |
| 06:12:26 | Patlabor221 | no it should bail out elegantly |
| 06:12:36 | Patlabor221 | I get puke o-rama |
| 06:12:37 | captain_proton | i should, not it should |
| 06:12:59 | Patlabor221 | it's dying the the pan manager tho |
| 06:13:10 | Patlabor221 | that should skip everything if the pannel stack is crap |
| 06:13:31 | captain_proton | yeah, ok |
| 06:13:32 | captain_proton | i can do that |
| 06:13:39 | Patlabor221 | I will fix the texture man thing tomrow |
| 06:13:42 | Patlabor221 | I am tired |
| 06:13:48 | Patlabor221 | but it's all compileing fine |
| 06:13:53 | Patlabor221 | so good job man |
| 06:14:01 | captain_proton | hit me with the updated stuff? |
| 06:14:14 | Patlabor221 | it'll be nice to have a set of cross plat libs |
| 06:14:23 | Patlabor221 | stnad by |
| 06:14:27 | Patlabor221 | zipping |
| 06:16:01 | Patlabor221 | I have not tried it on lin with the changes yet tho |
| 06:16:12 | captain_proton | thats what i'm here for |
| 06:17:06 | Patlabor221 | uping now |
| 06:17:17 | Patlabor221 | removed all the crap to make it smaller |
| 06:17:25 | Patlabor221 | all the VC temp files can get huge |
| 06:17:56 | captain_proton | really ought to do some HUD tests |
| 06:18:56 | Patlabor221 | you gonna put those little wingmen on the hud and have them allways say the EXACT same thing? |
| 06:19:14 | captain_proton | naw |
| 06:19:18 | captain_proton | well, maybe |
| 06:19:22 | captain_proton | not the same thing though |
| 06:19:31 | Patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/Jetstream/jetstream.zip |
| 06:19:41 | Patlabor221 | widget you can get it form there too |
| 06:19:44 | Patlabor221 | I'm off to bed |
| 06:20:08 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 06:31:09 | strayer | hi |
| 06:35:08 | corndawg | howdy |
| 06:35:16 | corndawg | hum... wonder if dns2go is worth it |
| 06:44:21 | Blind_Ambition | greetings |
| 06:45:46 | corndawg | mode -e? wassat? |
| 06:46:14 | corndawg | <-- dun have a mode -e on his irc network |
| 06:49:15 | corndawg | ok... im off ta bed |
| 06:49:18 | corndawg | nite all |
| 08:18:50 | captain_proton | ponders going to sleep with his face on ice |
| 08:45:25 | Cell_prog_insect | hi |
| 08:45:42 | Cell_prog_insect | i need a tool that can render html to an image, bitmap |
| 08:46:31 | Cell_prog_insect | may be someone knows |
| 11:45:51 | strayer | Chestal: here? |
| 11:51:38 | bomber | hi strayer |
| 11:54:46 | strayer | hi bomber |
| 11:54:58 | bomber | wie gehts |
| 11:55:19 | strayer | ...das Leben laeuft so an mir vobei ;) |
| 11:55:25 | strayer | und selber? |
| 11:55:35 | bomber | haha...warum bist du nicht draussen |
| 11:55:45 | bomber | ist so warm |
| 11:56:19 | strayer | jep...sag das meiner CPU....55°C |
| 11:56:20 | bomber | mir gehts prima....muss ich nur etwas programieren |
| 11:56:35 | strayer | muesste ich auch...aber hab keine Lust |
| 11:56:52 | strayer | hoffe ich schaffs noch bis zum Stichtag... |
| 11:56:56 | bomber | lust auf spiel ? |
| 11:57:05 | strayer | jep...immer ;) |
| 11:57:12 | bomber | ok..ducati |
| 11:57:17 | strayer | welcher? |
| 11:57:21 | bomber | ctf |
| 11:57:28 | strayer | ok... |
| 12:28:19 | bomber | nice game strayer |
| 12:49:46 | Cell_prog_insect | how many images does gluBuild2DMipmaps make??? |
| 12:55:44 | strayer | bomber: jep....but U were to predominant |
| 12:58:50 | bomber | i am training to beat moles :o)) |
| 12:59:48 | strayer | oh...then Ur teammates should be a least as good as U... ;) |
| 13:02:14 | bomber | not so important...its only game...:o) |
| 13:04:08 | strayer | jep...but U have to agree that winning is better than losing...hehe... |
| 13:06:00 | bomber | yes...but against moles then i need 3 very good players with good connection :o))) |
| 13:07:11 | strayer | hm...right.....Ur connection isn't that bad....and U R not that bad....U should clone Urself :) |
| 13:08:45 | bomber | haha...maybe bots.... |
| 13:09:34 | strayer | All is fair in love and war. :) |
| 13:10:49 | bomber | are you already in 1 team ? |
| 13:11:39 | strayer | ?...no, why? |
| 13:12:32 | strayer | U mean suffix '[avalon]' i use from time to time? |
| 13:14:01 | bomber | yes :o)))))) |
| 13:14:12 | bomber | why not ? |
| 13:14:38 | strayer | oh...this one has another meaning.. |
| 13:15:19 | strayer | i dunno....to lazy to write a request to a team or so.... |
| 13:15:35 | bomber | hahahahahahahahahaha |
| 13:15:52 | bomber | but you are looking for gooooood team ...or ? |
| 13:18:15 | strayer | hm....a better one...with only a few members....maybe a new team |
| 13:19:59 | strayer | dunno...the attraction of an fixed team isnt that great for me...i hope U know what i mean |
| 13:20:38 | bomber | yes i know... |
| 13:21:18 | bomber | oi have to go....cu |
| 13:21:26 | bomber | bye |
| 13:21:33 | strayer | bywe |
| 13:21:38 | strayer | arg...bye |
| 16:18:31 | | I haven't seen 'captan_proton', Patlabor221 |
| 16:18:31 | Patlabor221 | ibot seen captan_proton? |
| 17:00:37 | Widget | hihihi, paul. |
| 17:01:30 | | captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 8 hours, 42 minutes and 40 seconds ago, saying: ponders going to sleep with his face on ice [Sat Aug 17 09:18:50 2002] |
| 17:01:30 | bryjen | ibot: seen captain_proton ? |
| 17:02:09 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:02:30 | | bzbot was last seen on #bzflag 18 hours, 45 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: Red: 1 players, score: -14 | Green: 3 players, score: 40 | [Fri Aug 16 23:16:43 2002] |
| 17:02:30 | bryjen | ibot: seen bzbot ? |
| 17:02:36 | Widget | Hm... the default language of the Ireland Government webpage is English. |
| 17:04:58 | bryjen | yes.... is it not the common language there? |
| 17:05:06 | Patlabor221 | what should it be? |
| 17:07:19 | paul | Widget: hiya widget. |
| 17:07:40 | bzdoug | hey Patlabor221 |
| 17:07:41 | paul | english is what everyone speaks |
| 17:07:47 | paul | here |
| 17:07:58 | bzdoug | here.... |
| 17:08:08 | Patlabor221 | then I wanoder why widget finds it odd |
| 17:08:11 | Patlabor221 | hey doug |
| 17:08:44 | bryjen | maybe she expected Irish ( Gaelic ? ) |
| 17:09:40 | Widget | There is a link. |
| 17:09:42 | Widget | Gaelige. |
| 17:09:55 | Widget | And I thought all the government offices, etc. had Irish names. |
| 17:10:04 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure they do |
| 17:10:09 | Patlabor221 | but if most people speak english |
| 17:10:17 | bzdoug | :) |
| 17:10:18 | Patlabor221 | you have to cater to the LCD |
| 17:10:32 | bzdoug | sighs |
| 17:10:55 | Patlabor221 | ohh, just come out with it boyo |
| 17:10:59 | bzdoug | tufshop has not emailed me yet about my order... |
| 17:11:02 | bzdoug | :( |
| 17:11:12 | bzdoug | I do not know where to send the money |
| 17:11:19 | Patlabor221 | when did you order? |
| 17:11:24 | bzdoug | thursday |
| 17:11:26 | bzdoug | night |
| 17:11:39 | Patlabor221 | hmm they should have processed it friday you would thing |
| 17:11:44 | bzdoug | yes |
| 17:11:45 | Patlabor221 | send them an e-mail |
| 17:11:50 | Patlabor221 | perhaps they are buys |
| 17:11:51 | bzdoug | I did |
| 17:11:53 | Patlabor221 | busy |
| 17:11:57 | bzdoug | hrm, ye |
| 17:11:58 | bzdoug | s |
| 17:12:32 | Patlabor221 | well that fixed that |
| 17:12:44 | Patlabor221 | now lets see if she flys on lin still |
| 17:13:06 | bzdoug | hmm, a game with the minimum requirements of 750 Mhz runs on the 333 mhz computer fine, at 30 FPS |
| 17:13:12 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 17:13:15 | Patlabor221 | what game? |
| 17:13:22 | bzdoug | American Army |
| 17:13:27 | bzdoug | its free |
| 17:13:29 | bzdoug | :) |
| 17:13:37 | Patlabor221 | they are usualy high on the reqs |
| 17:13:41 | Patlabor221 | but 30 ick... |
| 17:13:49 | Patlabor221 | must studder like crap |
| 17:13:53 | bzdoug | 30 = good on 333 mhz comp |
| 17:13:55 | bzdoug | :) |
| 17:14:01 | Patlabor221 | it's all your video card |
| 17:14:05 | bzdoug | yes |
| 17:14:34 | bzdoug | but still, 333 mhz aint much to calculate the particals flying throught the air and stuff |
| 17:14:49 | Widget | Is it available for OS X or Linux? |
| 17:14:53 | bzdoug | and its at 800x400 res, so it aint bad |
| 17:14:57 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 17:14:58 | bzdoug | Widget: nope :( |
| 17:15:03 | Patlabor221 | that makes not sense |
| 17:15:08 | Patlabor221 | ether of you |
| 17:15:12 | bzdoug | AA is windows only |
| 17:15:18 | Patlabor221 | 1 doug it's 800x600 |
| 17:15:23 | bzdoug | but they will get a linux server out soon |
| 17:15:38 | bzdoug | I am running the game at 800x600 res |
| 17:15:47 | bzdoug | or what ever the standerd is |
| 17:15:47 | Patlabor221 | that's better the 800x400 |
| 17:15:54 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:15:58 | bzdoug | 800x400 then |
| 17:16:00 | bzdoug | I forget |
| 17:16:08 | Patlabor221 | *sigh* |
| 17:16:23 | Patlabor221 | 8008400 isn't a real rez |
| 17:16:28 | bzdoug | 800x600 then |
| 17:16:40 | bzdoug | 848x480 is |
| 17:16:47 | Patlabor221 | on a mac |
| 17:16:55 | bzdoug | on the PC |
| 17:17:09 | bzdoug | grins |
| 17:17:11 | Patlabor221 | only on screwed hardware |
| 17:17:22 | Widget | Like bzdoug's? |
| 17:17:25 | bzdoug | my apple monitor suppports it |
| 17:17:26 | Patlabor221 | must be |
| 17:17:32 | Patlabor221 | like I said on a mac |
| 17:17:38 | bzdoug | thats what is hooked up to the PC |
| 17:17:43 | Widget | I tried to play Vegastrike.. |
| 17:17:47 | Widget | It's so confusing! |
| 17:17:47 | bzdoug | the apple monitor |
| 17:17:49 | Widget | Confunding. |
| 17:17:51 | bzdoug | Widget: it is |
| 17:17:55 | Patlabor221 | yes then the PC will get it form the vexsa stuff |
| 17:17:58 | bzdoug | :( |
| 17:18:02 | bzdoug | yes |
| 17:18:11 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:18:32 | bzdoug | the GF4 card supports res. up to 2000+ |
| 17:18:42 | bzdoug | what monitors go that high? |
| 17:18:58 | Patlabor221 | 21's and 24's |
| 17:19:16 | Patlabor221 | I can do 1960 by something on my 21's |
| 17:19:23 | bzdoug | wow |
| 17:19:37 | Widget | Patlabor221 is spoiled. |
| 17:19:39 | Patlabor221 | but only at 60 hz so I don't do it |
| 17:19:44 | bzdoug | heh |
| 17:19:52 | Patlabor221 | not spoiled, I have to pay for all this |
| 17:20:00 | Patlabor221 | I just make sure I get what is most usefull |
| 17:20:06 | bzdoug | lol |
| 17:20:09 | Patlabor221 | and I know where to get hardware cheap |
| 17:20:28 | Patlabor221 | and most importantly, I have 2 jobs |
| 17:20:33 | bzdoug | ha |
| 17:20:34 | Patlabor221 | so I can pay for all that crap |
| 17:21:26 | Widget | But you have to work on Sundays. :) |
| 17:21:44 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:21:50 | Patlabor221 | I get saturday off |
| 17:21:59 | Patlabor221 | and I don't work allday on sunday |
| 17:22:03 | Patlabor221 | (tomrow for me) |
| 17:22:19 | Patlabor221 | usualy from 10 to 5 or 6 |
| 17:22:24 | bzdoug | hmmm |
| 17:23:26 | Patlabor221 | hmmm 1 warning so far |
| 17:23:32 | Widget | Warning? |
| 17:25:47 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:26:40 | Widget | Hm... the French overseas departments like Guadeloupe and Martinique are apparently not part of the EU. |
| 17:37:55 | Patlabor221 | mmmmmmmmm fading menus |
| 17:39:12 | paul | Widget: quite possible. |
| 17:39:35 | paul | they might be protectorates or colonies |
| 17:46:40 | Cell_prog_insect | hi |
| 17:46:50 | Patlabor221 | well I'll be damed, one set of cross plat libs |
| 17:46:52 | Patlabor221 | hi |
| 17:47:53 | Cell_prog_insect | question, how many images does gluBuild2DMipmaps |
| 17:47:59 | Cell_prog_insect | create, |
| 17:48:00 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 17:48:11 | Patlabor221 | as many as it needs |
| 17:48:13 | Cell_prog_insect | cause i want to draw to texture |
| 17:48:28 | Cell_prog_insect | with glTexSubImage2D |
| 17:48:36 | Patlabor221 | from your image size down by powers of 2 to a 1x1 texture |
| 17:48:49 | Cell_prog_insect | so many? |
| 17:48:49 | Patlabor221 | you have to define them all then |
| 17:48:58 | Patlabor221 | depends on your texture size |
| 17:49:04 | Patlabor221 | how big is your texture? |
| 17:49:10 | Cell_prog_insect | 256x256 |
| 17:49:16 | Patlabor221 | then 256 |
| 17:49:18 | Patlabor221 | 128 |
| 17:49:18 | Cell_prog_insect | 8 |
| 17:49:19 | Patlabor221 | 64 |
| 17:49:32 | Patlabor221 | 32 16 8 4 2 1 |
| 17:49:33 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:49:51 | Cell_prog_insect | then i have to write to all? |
| 17:49:56 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:50:05 | Cell_prog_insect | thats shit |
| 17:50:06 | Patlabor221 | if you want them to be changed |
| 17:50:20 | Patlabor221 | you can do your own mip |
| 17:50:26 | Patlabor221 | don'yt have to let GL do it for you |
| 17:50:29 | Cell_prog_insect | i want to dispaly an avi on it |
| 17:50:45 | Patlabor221 | you are asking it to make them, then you want to change them |
| 17:50:59 | Patlabor221 | then I would ether do you own mips |
| 17:51:02 | Patlabor221 | or don't mip |
| 17:51:08 | Cell_prog_insect | but i think then they dont go into video mem |
| 17:51:21 | Patlabor221 | yeah you can't bind this sucker |
| 17:51:32 | Patlabor221 | your changing it every frame |
| 17:51:46 | Cell_prog_insect | hats bad, directX is much better on that issue |
| 17:51:48 | Patlabor221 | your no reason to put it in vid mem |
| 17:51:52 | Patlabor221 | this is true |
| 17:52:07 | Patlabor221 | there are exensiuons that let you allocate AGP mem |
| 17:52:11 | Cell_prog_insect | yes every |
| 17:52:17 | Patlabor221 | check out the 1.3 extensions |
| 17:52:21 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 17:52:36 | Patlabor221 | thre was a tutorial on this somewhere let me check |
| 17:53:10 | paul | Cell_prog_insect: how do you put an AVI into vid mem? |
| 17:53:44 | Cell_prog_insect | i do not put it into video mem |
| 17:54:01 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:54:20 | Cell_prog_insect | look at http:\\nehe.gamedev.net at lesson35 |
| 17:54:56 | Cell_prog_insect | http://nehe.gamedev.net/tutorials/lesson.asp?l=35 |
| 17:55:11 | Cell_prog_insect | but the author does not use mipmaps |
| 17:55:20 | Patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 17:55:27 | Patlabor221 | the texture will be chanaging |
| 17:55:28 | Cell_prog_insect | so it looks cheap due to linear filtering |
| 17:55:47 | bzdoug | what are AVIs? |
| 17:55:54 | Patlabor221 | your shiting me |
| 17:56:02 | bzdoug | the movies? |
| 17:56:04 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:56:05 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 17:56:06 | bzdoug | file type? |
| 17:56:09 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:56:10 | Cell_prog_insect | *.avi |
| 17:56:11 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:56:18 | paul | i think as Patlabor221 points out, if you're rendering an animation onto a texture, then who cares if its in vid mem? |
| 17:56:23 | Patlabor221 | cell why are you not doing this in DX? |
| 17:56:27 | bzdoug | when was the totorial writen? |
| 17:56:43 | Cell_prog_insect | i dont know, two years ago |
| 17:56:46 | Patlabor221 | yeah you will flood the bus if you try to put all that in there |
| 17:56:47 | bzdoug | ah |
| 17:56:51 | bzdoug | explains it |
| 17:57:35 | paul | i think the answer is to get decent hardware. :) |
| 17:57:57 | paul | eg, a 5 year old O2 can easily display real-time video onto GL surfaces. |
| 17:57:57 | Cell_prog_insect | i will use directX if version 9,0 is out with .Net support, i use c# and the CsGL c# wrapper for opngl |
| 17:57:59 | paul | :) |
| 17:58:02 | Patlabor221 | like I say there are extension that would let you render to AGP mem |
| 17:58:09 | paul | cute. |
| 17:58:27 | bzdoug | I would like to see that |
| 17:58:33 | bzdoug | a demo |
| 17:58:41 | Patlabor221 | what? animated texture? |
| 17:58:46 | bzdoug | sure |
| 17:58:52 | Patlabor221 | ohh it's not that hard |
| 17:59:01 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:59:03 | Patlabor221 | that tutorial had an example |
| 17:59:08 | bzdoug | k |
| 17:59:19 | Patlabor221 | and I'm sure there is something on flipcode |
| 17:59:50 | Cell_prog_insect | what flipcode? |
| 18:00:22 | Patlabor221 | a web site |
| 18:00:32 | Cell_prog_insect | ah |
| 18:00:32 | Patlabor221 | you guys don't know aboue flipcode? |
| 18:00:37 | Cell_prog_insect | no |
| 18:00:41 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 18:00:47 | Cell_prog_insect | url plz |
| 18:00:57 | Patlabor221 | www.flipcode.com |
| 18:01:22 | bzdoug | interesting' |
| 18:01:55 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 18:02:00 | Cell_prog_insect | cool site |
| 18:02:07 | bzdoug | the avi textures |
| 18:02:08 | Patlabor221 | that it is |
| 18:02:18 | Patlabor221 | ohh theyve been dooing that for a while |
| 18:02:58 | bzdoug | now I would like to see my AVIs stuck on the sides of a cube |
| 18:03:01 | bzdoug | :) |
| 18:03:15 | bzdoug | and have it spinning |
| 18:03:23 | Cell_prog_insect | i too |
| 18:03:54 | Cell_prog_insect | thats why i try to do it |
| 18:03:55 | Patlabor221 | it's an interesting affect |
| 18:04:10 | Cell_prog_insect | i want to watch tv while playing |
| 18:04:13 | Patlabor221 | but it's realy a CPU/ram hog so you need to make sure its worth it |
| 18:04:20 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 18:04:31 | bzdoug | TV on the side of a building |
| 18:04:38 | bzdoug | and then you can t shoot it |
| 18:04:39 | Cell_prog_insect | yeah |
| 18:04:51 | bzdoug | hye captain_proton |
| 18:05:09 | Patlabor221 | there he is |
| 18:05:24 | Patlabor221 | I fixed your poping problem |
| 18:06:28 | bzdoug | haha |
| 18:06:36 | bzdoug | I got starways to play on a texture |
| 18:06:38 | Patlabor221 | uploading zip file now, it will be done in 2 min |
| 18:06:52 | bzdoug | starwars |
| 18:19:51 | Patlabor221 | ok cap: it's all done |
| 18:20:32 | Widget | When are we going to get a Linux driver for the Matrox Parhelia? |
| 18:20:33 | corndawg | hey hey all |
| 18:20:40 | captain_proton | it? |
| 18:20:45 | corndawg | cap... you ever sleep? |
| 18:20:46 | corndawg | heh |
| 18:20:56 | captain_proton | corndawg: sure, just woke up |
| 18:21:01 | corndawg | ahhhh |
| 18:21:15 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: yeah I updated the jetstream zip |
| 18:21:27 | Patlabor221 | works on win an lin |
| 18:21:40 | Patlabor221 | and fixed your pannel pop on tansition |
| 18:21:44 | corndawg | <--- found a good free dns provider last night... needa find an email server now |
| 18:21:44 | captain_proton | sweet |
| 18:22:00 | captain_proton | url me |
| 18:22:11 | corndawg | cap... www.dns2go.com |
| 18:22:25 | captain_proton | corndawg: not you, Patlabor221 |
| 18:22:26 | Patlabor221 | you had moved the thing that set bInTransition to inbetween the alpha calcs and the draw, I moved it to after the draw |
| 18:22:28 | corndawg | oh |
| 18:22:38 | Patlabor221 | same place as last time |
| 18:22:48 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 18:22:51 | Patlabor221 | my site /jestream/jetstream.zip |
| 18:23:16 | Patlabor221 | I redid all the load all parts |
| 18:23:30 | captain_proton | for which? win or lin? |
| 18:23:39 | Patlabor221 | both |
| 18:23:42 | Patlabor221 | didn't change waht they did |
| 18:23:49 | Patlabor221 | just repakced them |
| 18:24:03 | Patlabor221 | load all converts to a OS specific path |
| 18:24:12 | Patlabor221 | then calls WinLoadAll or LinLoadAll |
| 18:24:21 | Patlabor221 | and they just have to deal with OS paths |
| 18:24:38 | Patlabor221 | then the things that save a name all use "standard" paths ( unix ) |
| 18:24:44 | captain_proton | aha |
| 18:25:00 | Patlabor221 | so LoadAll allways takes a standard path |
| 18:25:04 | Patlabor221 | and Load Takes an OS path |
| 18:25:24 | Patlabor221 | I will make a LoadOne that takes a standard path and make Load protected |
| 18:25:36 | Patlabor221 | so that it will be posible to load a single |
| 18:25:57 | Patlabor221 | and now there isn't this intermixing of #defines in the load all |
| 18:26:01 | Patlabor221 | one func for each |
| 18:27:59 | Nicole3 | hi ppl |
| 18:28:07 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 18:28:31 | Nicole3 | are there any matches today? |
| 18:29:48 | Nicole3 | or not? |
| 18:32:21 | captain_proton | rCloud.vec = rCloudVec * (fCloudSpeed+(((float)rand()/((float)RAND_MAX*0.5f)-1.0f)*fCloudSpeedVariance) ); <-- nice use of whitespace |
| 18:32:40 | Patlabor221 | I made that? |
| 18:32:51 | bzdoug | C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\jetstream\jetstream\LGE\LGE.cpp(11) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'SDL/SDL.h': No such file or directory |
| 18:32:59 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 18:33:10 | Patlabor221 | doug why are you trying to make cap thing? |
| 18:33:19 | bzdoug | I dunno |
| 18:33:20 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 18:33:24 | Patlabor221 | wow I musta been drunk when I made that |
| 18:33:35 | Patlabor221 | doug: it's not for public consumption |
| 18:33:46 | bzdoug | *yum* |
| 18:33:55 | Patlabor221 | and it dosn't do anything |
| 18:33:56 | corndawg | lol |
| 18:33:59 | Patlabor221 | and your missing all the stuff |
| 18:34:05 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 18:34:09 | bzdoug | oh well |
| 18:34:24 | bzdoug | *poof* |
| 18:34:27 | bzdoug | its gone |
| 18:34:36 | Patlabor221 | cap all the code in pocket tanks was just bust it out test crap |
| 18:34:56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah yeah |
| 18:35:12 | Patlabor221 | I realy should have made a func for that rand thing |
| 18:35:22 | Patlabor221 | porlaby use it all over the pace |
| 18:37:00 | Patlabor221 | ohh cap I remeber why the main is in game loop |
| 18:37:13 | Patlabor221 | that was a file tht was not suposed to change from project to project |
| 18:37:28 | sussudio | the main in game falls mainly on the plane |
| 18:37:57 | Patlabor221 | and I made a file with the same name as the project to have all the game specific funcs |
| 18:38:41 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: aww you made the buttons flicker when you hit them |
| 18:38:57 | captain_proton | hum? |
| 18:39:11 | Patlabor221 | when you hit the menu butons the flicker onece |
| 18:39:43 | Patlabor221 | and I need to redo that back button |
| 18:40:01 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 18:40:06 | captain_proton | yes, back button looks funky |
| 18:40:11 | Patlabor221 | in the corners |
| 18:40:19 | Patlabor221 | should make it someting with a texture |
| 18:40:21 | Patlabor221 | that scales |
| 18:40:23 | Patlabor221 | crap |
| 18:40:30 | Patlabor221 | I have to go to a famialy thing |
| 18:41:00 | Patlabor221 | I'll be back later tho |
| 18:41:14 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 18:46:50 | Widget | Nicole3: I don't think so. |
| 18:48:35 | captain_proton | argh |
| 18:48:50 | captain_proton | my face is so swollen i can't fully close my mouth |
| 18:48:54 | captain_proton | :( |
| 18:49:02 | Widget | Pobrecito. :( |
| 18:58:33 | jpablo | bah, ducati just died. |
| 19:23:43 | strayer | hiho.. :) |
| 19:28:23 | Nicole3 | hi lo |
| 19:42:34 | Cell_prog_insect | whats a lumel? :) |
| 19:45:47 | Cell_prog_insect | its a 2d point in a lightmap, illuminated texture map, just like a texel is a point in a texture ;), just read that |
| 20:15:00 | strayer | hi iLLf8d |
| 20:15:37 | iLLf8d | lo |
| 20:15:39 | iLLf8d | how goes it |
| 20:16:08 | strayer | hm....solala |
| 20:16:20 | strayer | and U? |
| 20:23:05 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:23:12 | iLLf8d | ehh trying to figure out c++ |
| 20:23:17 | iLLf8d | been a while and I was never any good at it |
| 20:23:50 | strayer | hehe....i know C abit....but not C++ |
| 20:25:22 | strayer | and i am to lazy to get fit in it..... |
| 20:38:54 | Cell_prog_insect | whats the best text to speech prog? my eyes are tired and i would like to listen to endless articles? |
| 20:39:28 | corndawg | lol |
| 20:46:18 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:46:27 | iLLf8d | text to speech |
| 20:46:30 | iLLf8d | i'd guess ibms |
| 20:46:38 | iLLf8d | its voices are clean |
| 20:46:52 | iLLf8d | and it knows uhm... punctuation somewhat |
| 20:47:21 | iLLf8d | tho I thought I heard it needs input a phrase at a time |
| 20:47:36 | iLLf8d | up to 125 characters, or words |
| 20:47:39 | iLLf8d | I forget what I was told |
| 20:47:48 | iLLf8d | i've used festival |
| 20:47:57 | iLLf8d | works fine but its a word in word out kinda thing |
| 20:48:05 | iLLf8d | and the voice quality I could get outta of it was ehh |
| 20:48:13 | iLLf8d | tho I only went so far with it |
| 20:48:51 | iLLf8d | it got really annoying fast |
| 20:48:52 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:48:57 | iLLf8d | I had it reading irc to me |
| 21:06:16 | sussudio | man these guys on jzaun 5157 really suck bad |
| 21:06:21 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 21:06:21 | sussudio | ibot jzaun? |
| 21:06:34 | | sussudio: huh? |
| 21:06:34 | sussudio | ibot bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 21:06:42 | sussudio | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 21:06:42 | sussudio | ? |
| 21:48:02 | strayer | games.astercity.net.....there is a player called 131.... > if the admin is here....please kick him!!! |
| 21:51:22 | fontenot | AFAICT astercity has no admins |
| 21:51:37 | fontenot | that's why there are so many cheaters there |
| 21:51:59 | strayer | oh....hm...stupid situation... |
| 21:52:28 | strayer | but...ty |
| 22:02:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | night! |
| 22:02:37 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 22:02:37 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 22:02:50 | jzaun | hrmf... no bzbot :-( |
| 22:13:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 22:18:51 | Chestal | hah, my new spam filter filtered the 1st mail which passed my old filters |
| 22:19:37 | corndawg | lol |
| 22:20:04 | corndawg | man.... |
| 22:20:11 | corndawg | mpgs are a pain in the ass |
| 22:20:24 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 22:20:24 | sussudio | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 22:20:25 | bzbot | MrApathyCream (G): 1 (2-1). BZFrag Bait (R): -2 (0-2). NICK (r): 2 (3-1). jzaun (R): 1 (2-1). Death (R): 0 (1-1). Postal Worker (G): -1 (0-1). a cannon (R): -1 (0-1). |
| 22:20:35 | sussudio | can it show the mapname too? |
| 22:23:00 | corndawg | wonder what would make a mpg go blue on linux... but shows the video on winblows |
| 22:23:42 | sussudio | install the right codec or something |
| 22:24:11 | corndawg | ive got all the codec |
| 22:24:17 | corndawg | shouldnt really matter tho |
| 22:24:20 | sussudio | appearently not |
| 22:24:41 | sussudio | people have been distributing quicktime and mpeg2 with extension mpg too..... |
| 22:24:43 | corndawg | compiling zine... maybe thatll work |
| 22:24:49 | corndawg | yea |
| 22:24:51 | corndawg | i noticed |
| 22:24:58 | sussudio | they should be shot. |
| 22:25:01 | corndawg | this is mpg extension tho |
| 22:32:21 | corndawg | bbiab |
| 22:48:30 | captain_proton | my jaw feels like its going to explode |
| 22:48:40 | Chestal | maybe it is |
| 22:48:44 | Chestal | what did you do? |
| 22:49:00 | captain_proton | had my wisdom teeth cut out |
| 22:49:07 | Chestal | uhoh |
| 22:49:16 | sussudio | oh that's fun |
| 22:49:50 | captain_proton | i was doing pretty well the last couple days but today has been awful |
| 22:50:06 | sussudio | i'm suing my dentist for fucking that up |
| 22:50:24 | captain_proton | howso |
| 22:50:27 | sussudio | dentists are liars. |
| 22:50:38 | sussudio | "no, that bit we left in won't bother you" |
| 22:50:50 | sussudio | "no, your jaw will adjust itself after we forcefully dislocated it" |
| 22:51:12 | sussudio | fuckers |
| 22:51:12 | captain_proton | my dentist won't touch wisdom teeth with a 10 foot pole |
| 22:53:40 | paul | is away: I'm busy |
| 22:54:04 | captain_proton | and everything seems to have gone as well as can be expected, but right now it hurts like a bitch |
| 22:54:34 | sussudio | yeah and it wont go away for a while either |
| 22:55:15 | Widget | captain_proton: Are you still on pain medication? |
| 22:55:19 | captain_proton | Widget: yes |
| 22:55:36 | sussudio | too much pain meds only make it worse |
| 22:55:41 | Widget | Autsch. |
| 22:55:49 | captain_proton | not on too much |
| 22:56:13 | sussudio | not to mention the crap they tried to push to get a commission |
| 22:56:35 | sussudio | lemme see where it is...... |
| 22:56:53 | sussudio | arthrotec |
| 22:57:15 | sussudio | imagine being on wide angle + high speed for about 6 hours |
| 22:57:18 | sussudio | same effect |
| 22:58:39 | Widget | Oooh.... London has SMS and WAP updates on its public transportation. |
| 22:59:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | is that something weird? |
| 22:59:52 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: http://mobile.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/html/jp/index.jsp?js=PV7kkWF3fVs7hfj6 |
| 23:00:15 | Widget | You can plan routes on your cellphone! |
| 23:00:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | well here you can even ask for water temperatur with sms |
| 23:01:21 | Widget | But can you plan a route on the Tallinn subway? |
| 23:01:30 | Widget | Or find the location of any car at a given time? |
| 23:01:39 | Widget | And access schedules? |
| 23:01:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | schedules? |
| 23:01:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | tallinn got no subway :P |
| 23:01:57 | Widget | Does Tallinn have a subway? |
| 23:01:58 | Widget | Oh. |
| 23:02:00 | Widget | :) |
| 23:02:04 | Widget | OK, bus schedules? |
| 23:02:41 | Widget | sõiduplaan |
| 23:02:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno there is lot of wap portals news info all sort of stuff |
| 23:02:54 | Widget | For buses. |
| 23:03:37 | Widget | Hm... the population of Tallinn is 442,000 people. |
| 23:03:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | yes |
| 23:03:52 | Widget | And a lot of Russians live there. |
| 23:04:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | yes there are |
| 23:04:03 | Widget | 42% of the residents are Russians. |
| 23:06:04 | Widget | Is Tallinn the biggest city in Estonia? |
| 23:07:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | yes |
| 23:07:57 | captain_proton | hmm, they had WAP service on the train from narita to yokohama |
| 23:07:58 | [BZ]Ruudi | it is |
| 23:08:13 | captain_proton | err |
| 23:08:15 | captain_proton | not WAP |
| 23:08:25 | captain_proton | 802.11b |
| 23:08:35 | Widget | Ah. |
| 23:09:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | cellphone car parking we got here...no coins needed :P |
| 23:10:40 | Widget | Yes, Japan has really nice public transportation. |
| 23:10:54 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: In London, there _is_ no parking that can be purchased for coins. |
| 23:11:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno is it good or bad |
| 23:11:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | someone got no phone |
| 23:12:54 | Widget | No, I mean that it's too expensive. |
| 23:13:10 | Widget | Hm... is 442,000 the population of Tallinn proper or its metropolitan area? |
| 23:13:44 | paul | is back (gone 00:20:05) |
| 23:13:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | well it might be right 1.5 milj in estonia at all |
| 23:13:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | seems ok |
| 23:14:03 | Widget | paul: What is the population of Dublin? |
| 23:15:27 | sussudio | wow |
| 23:15:39 | sussudio | dublin, ireland? |
| 23:15:56 | Widget | Yes. |
| 23:16:09 | paul | just over 1M iirc. |
| 23:16:16 | paul | something like 1.1 or 1.2M |
| 23:16:16 | sussudio | 300,000 |
| 23:16:25 | Widget | Wow..... so one third of the whole population? |
| 23:16:34 | sussudio | hm |
| 23:16:40 | Widget | sussudio: That's Dublin proper, yes? |
| 23:16:42 | sussudio | WHITELAW’S 1798 CENSUS OF DUBLIN |
| 23:16:43 | paul | yep. population in ireland is heavily biased round dublin. |
| 23:16:43 | Widget | sussudio: Not the metropolitan area? |
| 23:16:56 | sussudio | 182,370 even |
| 23:16:56 | paul | dublin county. |
| 23:17:09 | paul | iirc |
| 23:17:23 | sussudio | Widget: google is your friend |
| 23:17:45 | sussudio | The population of Dublin county is estimated as just over 1 million, or 29 per cent of the national population. |
| 23:17:45 | Widget | So Dublin is about the size of Auckland. |
| 23:18:28 | sussudio | http://www.ireland.com/explore/counties/dublin.htm |
| 23:18:35 | paul | however, the urban sprawl of dublin has now reached into surrounding counties, eg i live in kildare. |
| 23:18:51 | sussudio | yawns |
| 23:19:17 | Widget | Hm... is Dublin Gaelic? It doesn't sound so? |
| 23:19:59 | paul | Widget: lot of irish place names are anglicised versions of the irish. |
| 23:20:02 | Widget | replaces the mark of interrogation with a full stop. |
| 23:20:09 | paul | eg dublin -> an dubh linn (the black pool) |
| 23:20:23 | paul | proper irish name is baile atha cliath. |
| 23:20:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | linn - means what? |
| 23:20:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | linn means city in estonian |
| 23:20:38 | Widget | Oh, I see. |
| 23:20:46 | Widget | Hm.. how coincidental. :) |
| 23:21:14 | paul | linn means pool in irish. |
| 23:21:23 | paul | baile is town in irish. |
| 23:21:36 | sussudio | linn has no meaning in dutch. |
| 23:21:46 | Widget | Lynn is a name in English. |
| 23:23:33 | Widget | Hm.... "Lynn" is also Welsh for lake. |
| 23:23:42 | Widget | Thus the origin of the name. |
| 23:24:00 | BZFrank | hi |
| 23:24:06 | Widget | hihihi, BZFrank. |
| 23:24:17 | BZFrank | hi widget! |
| 23:24:46 | Widget | And Frank was the type of spear a Germanic tribe of Europe used to use, which later became the name of their tribe. |
| 23:25:03 | BZFrank | really? |
| 23:25:05 | Widget | sussudio: You're right, Google is amazing. |
| 23:25:17 | sussudio | Widget: tried www.everything2.com ? |
| 23:25:25 | BZFrank | wow ;) |
| 23:25:52 | Widget | sussudio: Yes, I'm a noder there. |
| 23:25:58 | BZFrank | gets himself a tea |
| 23:25:58 | Widget | sussudio: But I won't tell you which one. ;) |
| 23:26:07 | Widget | sussudio: But, I'm level 3. That's enough of a hint. |
| 23:26:14 | sussudio | Frank (?), a. [Compar Franker (?); superl. Frankest.] [F. franc free, frank, L. Francus a Frank, fr. OHG. Franko the name of a Germanic people on the Rhine, who afterward founded the French monarchy; cf. AS. franca javelin, Icel. frakka. Cf. Franc, French, a., Franchise, n.] |
| 23:26:31 | Widget | See, franca javelin. |
| 23:26:52 | Widget | sussudio: Are you a noder as well? |
| 23:27:04 | sussudio | no |
| 23:27:13 | sussudio | i dont get the primary meaning of frank |
| 23:27:16 | sussudio | "pigsty"? |
| 23:27:40 | Widget | It says Obsolete. |
| 23:27:43 | Widget | [Obs.] |
| 23:27:51 | Widget | And that was in 1913, too. |
| 23:28:11 | Widget | The fourth definition is the main one. |
| 23:28:54 | BZFrank | is back |
| 23:30:22 | BZFrank | actually my full name is Frank Martin, my sister wanted Martin my mother Frank, so they found a compromise ;) |
| 23:30:47 | Widget | BZFrankMartin? |
| 23:31:01 | BZFrank | Sure ;) |
| 23:31:55 | BZFrank | but I use this mostly for officia correspondence - so I see from the letter head the origin ;) |
| 23:31:59 | sussudio | well at least your last name isnt furter |
| 23:32:07 | Widget | From the Roman name Martinus, which was derived from Martis, the genitive case of the name of the Roman god MARS. |
| 23:32:10 | Widget | sussudio: Haha. |
| 23:32:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm where comes Tanel from :? |
| 23:32:30 | sussudio | hmm wasnt that from the rocky horror show? |
| 23:32:37 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Daniel? |
| 23:32:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i guess so |
| 23:33:14 | sussudio | hm not on everything2 |
| 23:33:35 | BZFrank | Frank Martin Siegert, quite warlike I was told a while ago (Sieg = Victory in German, Martin is derived from Mars, the god of war and frank, well ;)) |
| 23:33:58 | sussudio | Tim Curry .... Doctor Frank-N-Furter (A Scientist) |
| 23:34:05 | Widget | Which is why you make tank games. :) |
| 23:34:15 | BZFrank | sure! that is the war god in me ;) |
| 23:34:21 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm tanel põld from google kives me for first 3 seartch |
| 23:34:25 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: What does Eesti isikunimed mean? |
| 23:34:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | gives |
| 23:34:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | estonian names |
| 23:34:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | isik is like |
| 23:34:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | person or something |
| 23:35:01 | Widget | What does Otsi/Näita mean? |
| 23:35:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | Seartch/Show |
| 23:35:37 | Widget | on üks suvaline täht; * on null või mitu suvalist tähte (nagu DOS-is) |
| 23:35:37 | Widget | Vaikimisi otsitakse tervet sõna, tähejada otsimiseks küsi *jada* |
| 23:35:37 | Widget | |
| 23:35:37 | Widget | |
| 23:35:37 | Widget | |
| 23:38:35 | BZFrank | is looking for a host name for his new computer, any suggestions? |
| 23:38:45 | Widget | Oooh. |
| 23:38:49 | Widget | Try "ieyasu" |
| 23:38:50 | BZFrank | OOch? |
| 23:39:06 | BZFrank | ieyasu? what does it mean? |
| 23:39:14 | [BZ]Ruudi | or try alajaam :P |
| 23:39:16 | Widget | Tokugawa Ieyasu founded the Edo shogunate. |
| 23:39:26 | Widget | He unified Japan for the first time. |
| 23:39:32 | Widget | One of the greatest generals who ever lived. |
| 23:39:40 | BZFrank | ah! a good name then := |
| 23:39:41 | BZFrank | :) |
| 23:39:44 | BZFrank | thanks! |
| 23:39:51 | Widget | :) |
| 23:40:25 | sussudio | my all-purpose-debian-box is called ferret |
| 23:41:16 | BZFrank | This is an l like 'L' right? not an I? |
| 23:41:29 | BZFrank | Or an I like i |
| 23:41:32 | Widget | I. |
| 23:41:34 | Widget | Ieyasu. |
| 23:41:54 | BZFrank | Ieyasu |
| 23:41:56 | sussudio | gesundheit |
| 23:42:02 | Widget | Hehe. |
| 23:42:02 | BZFrank | leyasu |
| 23:42:18 | Widget | It's pronounced "eyasu" |
| 23:42:45 | BZFrank | found some info http://www.jinjapan.org/kidsweb/japan/i/q6.html |
| 23:43:49 | Widget | The Edo period was the period just before the Meiji period, I think. |
| 23:44:00 | Widget | (In which Japan rapidly modernised) |
| 23:44:30 | BZFrank | ok, hostname set |
| 23:44:50 | Widget | Woohoo! I feel honoured. :) |
| 23:45:44 | BZFrank | be honored and thanks! ;) |
| 23:57:55 | BZFrank | this install takes forever... |
| 23:58:20 | captain_proton | what are you installing? |
| 23:58:35 | BZFrank | xp (don't hurt me ;)) |
| 23:58:42 | captain_proton | hurts BZFrank |
| 23:58:53 | BZFrank | one partition xp, one partition linux |
| 23:59:02 | Widget | Is it impossible to install XP on a computer that doesn't have internet access? |
| 23:59:04 | captain_proton | what flavor of linux? |
| 23:59:07 | BZFrank | autch! |
| 23:59:16 | captain_proton | Widget: yeah, you have to call up MS |
| 23:59:26 | BZFrank | no, you just need to call Mickysoft by phone |
| 23:59:31 | BZFrank | redhat 7.3 |
| 23:59:42 | captain_proton | hmm, not too bad |
| 23:59:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | beehive linux is best i have seen |
