| 00:00:22 | doughecka | ( said the blind man) |
| 00:01:23 | Patlabor221 | is that your only joke? |
| 00:01:51 | doughecka | hmm, yup |
| 00:01:55 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 00:01:57 | doughecka | I need to get out more |
| 00:02:03 | Patlabor221 | this is very very true |
| 00:02:09 | doughecka | yah |
| 00:02:46 | doughecka | well, we made the rounds today, askin for a power supply extender, the guy swore that compusa had them |
| 00:03:02 | doughecka | but compusa is like 25 miles away |
| 00:03:05 | doughecka | ;) |
| 00:03:50 | doughecka | best buy really aint that good... |
| 00:03:57 | doughecka | after seeing the prices on ebay... |
| 00:03:59 | doughecka | :) |
| 00:04:33 | doughecka | 14 bucks for a cheesy keyboard, we found a black IBM keyboard for 5 bucks... |
| 00:04:40 | doughecka | on ebay,,, |
| 00:11:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm |
| 00:12:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | ahha here you are |
| 00:12:07 | mandy | yeah |
| 00:12:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | too bad there is no les channel in openprojects :P |
| 00:12:19 | mandy | grr |
| 00:12:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | where ya from anyway? |
| 00:12:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | deutch? |
| 00:12:33 | mandy | >:( |
| 00:12:40 | mandy | lol |
| 00:12:40 | Patlabor221 | doughecka: they may be thinging of the regular power extender for drives |
| 00:12:53 | doughecka | yes |
| 00:12:54 | doughecka | no |
| 00:12:57 | mandy | I'm from the U.S.A |
| 00:13:11 | doughecka | he looked right at the drive thingy |
| 00:13:20 | doughecka | and saud, nope, we dont have one of those |
| 00:13:27 | Patlabor221 | doughecka: and remember don't look at ebay bids as prices, look at what things colose for |
| 00:13:30 | doughecka | but the guys at compusa might have one |
| 00:13:44 | doughecka | the keyboard was closing in 4 min |
| 00:13:51 | mandy | bleh |
| 00:13:51 | Patlabor221 | good |
| 00:14:28 | Patlabor221 | how mean ruudi |
| 00:15:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | mean what mean who's mean why mean? |
| 00:15:10 | Patlabor221 | you |
| 00:15:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | why ? |
| 00:15:38 | Patlabor221 | make the gilrs frown |
| 00:15:43 | Patlabor221 | thats not nice :) |
| 00:16:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm just happens so sometimes..i'm a good boy don't arrest me mama rised no bad boy |
| 00:16:47 | Patlabor221 | well I am catagoricly evil, but I don't make the girls frown |
| 00:17:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | frown i don't even know what does that mean! |
| 00:17:32 | Patlabor221 | :( |
| 00:17:36 | Patlabor221 | make the sad face |
| 00:17:40 | Patlabor221 | be not happy |
| 00:17:58 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah i see well i have made girls happy too :P |
| 00:18:17 | mandy | lol |
| 00:18:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | but well then some other girl do this :( i never get it right |
| 00:18:27 | mandy | hmm |
| 00:18:36 | mandy | bleh |
| 00:18:52 | Patlabor221 | bleh don't sound like a happy sound |
| 00:19:19 | mandy | bleh bleh bleh |
| 00:19:27 | [BZ]Ruudi | damn headphones makin ears wet...bleh is nice sound bleeeh bliih bhiih and so on |
| 00:19:37 | Patlabor221 | ick that's nasty man |
| 00:19:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | you know |
| 00:19:49 | Patlabor221 | mandy are you allways boored? |
| 00:19:50 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:19:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | nasty man you just think nasty ways |
| 00:20:01 | mandy | yes i'm always bored |
| 00:20:04 | sussudio | hm maybe you shouldve spent more than $10 on headphones |
| 00:20:09 | mandy | I have a boring life |
| 00:20:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | i know some guys read bleeh and think about nasty things there is lot of them |
| 00:20:18 | sussudio | you have A life???? |
| 00:20:30 | Patlabor221 | no, I htink that no mater how you thingk about it if you have wet ears and anrn't in the bath or pool, that's nasty |
| 00:20:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | mandy move into eastern europe lot of vodka and life is fun :P |
| 00:20:41 | mandy | yes i do |
| 00:20:53 | mandy | hmmm |
| 00:20:56 | sussudio | yeah, it's one big swimmingpool at the moment |
| 00:20:58 | mandy | w/e ruddi |
| 00:21:03 | mandy | ruudi* |
| 00:21:04 | doughecka | ea |
| 00:21:06 | doughecka | yea |
| 00:21:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | mm |
| 00:21:22 | Patlabor221 | we have vodka in the US too |
| 00:21:28 | Patlabor221 | and all sorts of other things |
| 00:21:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | come on move over here we got nice life cheap and all :P |
| 00:21:37 | Patlabor221 | where? |
| 00:21:53 | mandy | lol |
| 00:21:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | well but if you got no lot of fun people to drink vodka with no point to have any vodka |
| 00:22:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | where...i'm in estonia |
| 00:22:07 | mandy | I'll just move in with you Ruudi |
| 00:22:14 | Patlabor221 | where is that? |
| 00:22:15 | doughecka | ugh |
| 00:22:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | with me well i'f you like my wife :P |
| 00:22:26 | Patlabor221 | is that one of those warm beer countrys? |
| 00:22:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | Pat...you had geography in school :? |
| 00:22:53 | Patlabor221 | yes but that was a long while ago |
| 00:22:57 | sussudio | hm americans and geography |
| 00:23:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | warm beer no way man 33C and warm beer doesn't fit |
| 00:23:03 | sussudio | "HERE THERE'S TEXAS" |
| 00:23:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | hahaa |
| 00:23:09 | sussudio | "AND THAT'S ALL" |
| 00:23:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | right! |
| 00:23:21 | Patlabor221 | well europe keeps changing |
| 00:23:33 | Patlabor221 | and you got all those little ones |
| 00:24:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | yea yea and lot of different peoples and nice languages :) |
| 00:24:16 | Patlabor221 | and texas ain't all that it's cracked up to be |
| 00:24:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | well you know finland? |
| 00:24:40 | sussudio | for some reason german tourists think that now that they can pay in euros everywhere people will suddenly speak german too |
| 00:24:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | where's nokia from :P |
| 00:24:48 | Patlabor221 | yes I know where finaland is fomr |
| 00:25:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | hehee people getting ill |
| 00:25:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | well 80km south from finland and there is estonia |
| 00:25:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | over the sea |
| 00:25:44 | doughecka | yuk |
| 00:25:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | was part of soviet union |
| 00:25:54 | sussudio | bah when i was at school there was no estonia |
| 00:26:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah same here |
| 00:26:05 | doughecka | and there is internet there? |
| 00:26:08 | doughecka | wow |
| 00:26:12 | doughecka | must be packet |
| 00:26:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | hahaa man i got dsl line in home |
| 00:26:27 | Patlabor221 | doug your state was the last one in the world to get net |
| 00:26:36 | doughecka | yes |
| 00:26:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | and every fucking countryman got net in home |
| 00:27:03 | mandy | yawns |
| 00:27:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | in woods there is public net point signs :P |
| 00:27:04 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: *ahem* sooo, its got dsl into every home, but no way out? |
| 00:27:07 | sussudio | Patlabor221: theyre still waiting for them new things called cars'n'fridges |
| 00:27:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | way out? |
| 00:27:20 | doughecka | sussudio: eh? what is them? |
| 00:27:25 | Patlabor221 | they got them they are just siting on the front lawn |
| 00:27:29 | sussudio | them louisiana, chere |
| 00:27:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | there is all sort of connections you can have |
| 00:27:53 | doughecka | oh yes, those "blocks"? |
| 00:27:55 | Patlabor221 | I think I live the bandwith state |
| 00:28:06 | doughecka | Patlabor221: and the power state too |
| 00:28:11 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: ;) |
| 00:28:17 | Patlabor221 | well your state is where all those redneck jokes come from |
| 00:28:23 | doughecka | (hic) |
| 00:28:26 | Patlabor221 | no we don't got no power |
| 00:28:30 | Patlabor221 | we have to steal it |
| 00:28:32 | mandy | hums a song |
| 00:28:39 | Patlabor221 | what song? |
| 00:28:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | haa what song is it? |
| 00:28:40 | doughecka | or get it from veggii gas |
| 00:28:43 | sussudio | i thought you made power from pig poop |
| 00:28:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | is a mucician |
| 00:28:50 | sussudio | like in mad max 3 |
| 00:28:53 | Patlabor221 | is a critic |
| 00:28:53 | doughecka | nope, vegie gas |
| 00:29:01 | mandy | i dunno |
| 00:29:09 | mandy | a song i guess |
| 00:29:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | but what kind of music you prefere? |
| 00:29:18 | Patlabor221 | is it lake mmmmm mmmmm mmmmmmm mm mmm mmmm mmmm ? |
| 00:29:23 | Patlabor221 | cus I love that song |
| 00:29:32 | sussudio | i think it goes kaduum mmm boom blah |
| 00:29:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | thinks english speakin is so not smooth |
| 00:29:50 | doughecka | Mmmmmmmmmmm! |
| 00:29:55 | doughecka | boom crash bang! |
| 00:29:55 | Patlabor221 | only speaks bad english |
| 00:30:00 | mandy | lol |
| 00:30:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | m mm mmm mm m mm mmm m mmm m rap |
| 00:30:06 | doughecka | bum bummmm buuuuummmmmm! |
| 00:30:16 | doughecka | rap? |
| 00:30:20 | doughecka | whered that come form? |
| 00:30:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | mm mm mm m m mm mm yo |
| 00:30:33 | doughecka | wasaaaabi! |
| 00:30:37 | sussudio | -|- (Blur)_Song_2.mp3 (1,930,262 bytes 128kbps Joint Stereo 2mins 1sec Genre:Rock |
| 00:30:39 | mandy | weird people |
| 00:30:40 | sussudio | woo-ooh! |
| 00:30:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | no mina kah kurat ei tea mis mõla see on |
| 00:30:51 | doughecka | mandy: only USA people |
| 00:30:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | vot sedasi |
| 00:30:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | vat kui hakkan segast vihuma |
| 00:30:59 | mandy | hey!! |
| 00:30:59 | Patlabor221 | nothing good ever comes from being with normal people |
| 00:31:07 | mandy | grrr |
| 00:31:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | tõlkige seda nüüd ise kui tahate |
| 00:31:18 | doughecka | woof |
| 00:31:19 | Patlabor221 | doug you live in kentucky so shut up |
| 00:31:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | some local for you |
| 00:31:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm sun comes up soon i guess |
| 00:31:53 | doughecka | lalala, kentucky is a techonogy time loop |
| 00:32:01 | sussudio | nooooooooo! the yellow thing in the sky that hurtz! |
| 00:32:15 | Patlabor221 | mandy where are you in the US? |
| 00:33:06 | mandy | Indiana |
| 00:33:13 | doughecka | sussudio: you ever stare at it? |
| 00:33:18 | doughecka | mandy: eh? |
| 00:33:20 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:33:28 | mandy | i said Indiana |
| 00:33:31 | mandy | lol |
| 00:33:32 | Patlabor221 | ahh in the middle |
| 00:33:33 | doughecka | ok, hot |
| 00:33:42 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:33:57 | mandy | blehhhh |
| 00:34:01 | Patlabor221 | don't think I've ever been to tht state |
| 00:34:03 | doughecka | indiana is like a cup of coffee |
| 00:34:07 | Patlabor221 | been to dougs, it's crap |
| 00:34:12 | Patlabor221 | nice trees tho |
| 00:34:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | hey guys what languages you got in chool there i mean you must learn whitch ones? |
| 00:34:19 | doughecka | the foam at the top, the dregs at the bottum |
| 00:34:23 | Patlabor221 | spanish |
| 00:34:27 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi german |
| 00:34:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm |
| 00:34:41 | Patlabor221 | you can't not know spanish here |
| 00:34:43 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: alianeish |
| 00:34:51 | doughecka | hihihi Widget! |
| 00:35:02 | mandy | hihihi |
| 00:35:07 | mandy | :P |
| 00:35:11 | Widget | hihihi, doughecka, mandy. |
| 00:35:21 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Did you stay up all night!?!? |
| 00:35:23 | Patlabor221 | wow you all are way too happy |
| 00:35:25 | [BZ]Ruudi | i see...russian nado for usa schools :P |
| 00:35:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | well yeah it's too damn hot to sleep |
| 00:35:37 | Patlabor221 | there are some that haveit |
| 00:35:41 | Patlabor221 | our high school did |
| 00:36:03 | doughecka | happy happy happy talk! talk about things you like to say! |
| 00:36:19 | Patlabor221 | too many pixie stix today doug? |
| 00:38:26 | doughecka | naw, its the, (hic) air |
| 00:39:42 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 00:42:21 | Widget | Ooh, I just found a cool sun clock. |
| 00:42:29 | Widget | It is currently night time in most of the US. |
| 00:42:30 | doughecka | yah> |
| 00:42:33 | doughecka | ? |
| 00:42:33 | Widget | Except for the Western part. |
| 00:42:34 | doughecka | cool |
| 00:42:43 | Widget | And a lot of canada is in daylight, because it is so far north. |
| 00:42:59 | Widget | We're right in the middle of the patch of sun that is on the earth right now. |
| 00:43:24 | Widget | In India and the midle east it is daybreak. |
| 00:43:39 | Widget | In Africa and Europe, it's still night time. Not for long in Europe, though. |
| 00:43:49 | Patlabor221 | day here |
| 00:43:56 | Patlabor221 | will get dark soon |
| 00:44:02 | doughecka | its night time here |
| 00:44:18 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: 3:50 AM in Estonia? Go to bed! |
| 00:44:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | 4:52 |
| 00:44:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | too late for bed |
| 00:45:11 | Patlabor221 | damned dailight savings |
| 00:45:12 | mandy | lol Ruudi |
| 00:45:39 | Widget | But it says Tallinn is 3:52. |
| 00:45:55 | Patlabor221 | what tiem does it say for CA? |
| 00:45:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah those am pm stuff you never know |
| 00:46:10 | Widget | 6:52. |
| 00:46:16 | Patlabor221 | well that is dead on |
| 00:47:08 | Widget | And it has the correct time for London. |
| 00:47:19 | Widget | And for Helsinki. |
| 00:47:29 | Widget | And even for Riga! |
| 00:47:35 | Widget | But not for Vilnius or Tallinn. |
| 00:47:49 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Where in Estonia do you live? |
| 00:47:51 | Patlabor221 | perhaps they do not do daylight savings |
| 00:48:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | Tartu |
| 00:48:21 | Widget | It has different times for Riga, Vilnius and Tallinn, even though they are in the same timezone. |
| 00:48:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah well we do this daylight savings i guess |
| 00:48:37 | Widget | Obviously, Riga is correct, and Vilnius and Tallinn are wrong for some reason. |
| 00:49:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | but i never know thid date and day and month type of things |
| 00:49:02 | Widget | Hm... Estonia's Baltic neighbours _are_ in the same timezone, yes? |
| 00:49:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | should be |
| 00:49:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | same as finland |
| 00:49:14 | doughecka | l |
| 00:49:16 | doughecka | | |
| 00:49:23 | Widget | Yes, Finland has the correct time. |
| 00:49:28 | Widget | But Estonia is an hour behind. |
| 00:49:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | and we dont? |
| 00:49:41 | Widget | Yes.... this program is faulty. |
| 00:49:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | well what ever sun comes up in same time anyway |
| 00:49:49 | Widget | Hehe. |
| 00:49:54 | doughecka | I hope |
| 00:49:57 | doughecka | ;) |
| 00:50:01 | doughecka | yup never know |
| 00:50:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | i really don't care :P i must not to go work :) |
| 00:50:06 | Widget | In Northern Finland it's daytime right now. |
| 00:50:08 | doughecka | it might fail |
| 00:50:13 | Widget | Because they are so far north. |
| 00:50:29 | Widget | Northern Scandinavia is still light... they're light for most of the night. |
| 00:50:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | well polar day stuff they got a lot of this day time :P |
| 00:50:35 | Widget | Except at midnight. |
| 00:50:48 | Widget | And then during the Northern Hemisphere winter, all night time. |
| 00:51:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | Widget you from? |
| 00:51:23 | Widget | New Zealand. |
| 00:51:28 | [BZ]Ruudi | no way? |
| 00:51:33 | Patlabor221 | Widget: did you turn in the project? |
| 00:51:38 | Widget | Patlabor221: Yep. :) |
| 00:51:42 | Patlabor221 | how did it go? |
| 00:51:48 | Widget | Not graded yet. |
| 00:52:04 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure it will do well, you are super genius and all |
| 00:52:07 | Widget | Patlabor221: And I figured out how to construct an implementation of A*. |
| 00:52:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | i'm allways wanted to move into new zealand anyway |
| 00:52:24 | Widget | Patlabor221: But... it wouldn't work in my project. |
| 00:52:36 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Don't. It's the most boring place you'll ever find. |
| 00:52:45 | Widget | I always wanted to move to Estonia. :) |
| 00:52:53 | Patlabor221 | then you canimplement it in the bot API :) |
| 00:53:14 | Widget | What is the bot supposed to do? |
| 00:53:20 | doughecka | hnn |
| 00:53:28 | Widget | Hm.. it started raining again. |
| 00:53:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | Widget well boring or not but nice anyway |
| 00:53:39 | Widget | It's been raining off and on for the whole day. Really annoying. |
| 00:53:44 | Widget | And tomorrow, it's going to pour. |
| 00:53:51 | Patlabor221 | the bot finds paths to it |
| 00:53:56 | Patlabor221 | 's targets |
| 00:54:00 | Patlabor221 | and moves around thing |
| 00:54:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | well in estonia is ok anyway |
| 00:54:29 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Unless you like skiing, you probably won't like South Island that much... it's very rainy and cold. |
| 00:54:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | northen should be better i guess |
| 00:54:46 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Australia is a lot warmer than NZ. They're further north. |
| 00:55:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | well dunno australia doesnt seem so nice... |
| 00:55:06 | Widget | Ya, North Island is pretty nice. That's why everyone lives there. |
| 00:55:15 | Widget | Australia has a lot of deserts. |
| 00:55:20 | Widget | New Zealand has a lot of mountains. |
| 00:55:23 | [BZ]Ruudi | anyway one day i want to travel there even if i must come back :P |
| 00:55:43 | Widget | How well can you get around in Estonia with English? |
| 00:55:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah i know stuff about new zealand and australia... |
| 00:56:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | with english all younger people talk english i think bit better than me |
| 00:56:30 | Widget | I don't know much about Estonia. :) Except that Estonian is a Finno-Ugric language, closely related to Finnish. |
| 00:56:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah languages sound bit same... |
| 00:56:53 | Widget | Can you get by with English and Russian? |
| 00:57:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | sure |
| 00:57:22 | Patlabor221 | makes his way back home and learns to fly |
| 00:57:23 | Widget | How is the weather (in summer and winter)? |
| 00:57:36 | Widget | I wouldn't have expected so northerly a country to have such hot summers. |
| 00:57:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | you can't get a tourist if you don't know english or russian :) |
| 00:58:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | well right now its 30C on daytime |
| 00:58:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | and it's really hot |
| 00:58:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | but 20-25C is normal |
| 00:58:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | and winter 0--20C |
| 00:58:39 | Widget | Hm... I hear there is a lot of rain in Central-Eastern Europe... is it expected in Estonia soon? |
| 00:58:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | here in my town it's more like dry and colder on islands its warmer and more moist |
| 00:58:51 | Widget | It can reach up to 20C in winter!?!? |
| 00:59:01 | Widget | Islands? Saaremaa, etc.? |
| 00:59:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | Saaremaa yeah i was born there real beauty place... |
| 00:59:28 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah it goes sometimes 25 below zero here on winter |
| 00:59:35 | Widget | So the Islands are populated? |
| 00:59:46 | Widget | Eep.... 25 below 0... |
| 01:00:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | well biggest town on saaremaa got 15000 people i guess |
| 01:00:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | maybe more |
| 01:00:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | but not so populated that you cant find a lot of lonly places |
| 01:00:49 | Widget | What is the total population of Estonia? |
| 01:01:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno 1.7 milj i guess |
| 01:01:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | on north east region there live lot of russians |
| 01:01:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | you got about 4.2 there? |
| 01:02:06 | Widget | More like 9-10 now. |
| 01:02:15 | Widget | Oh. |
| 01:02:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | so mutch? |
| 01:02:17 | Widget | Population? |
| 01:02:20 | Widget | :P |
| 01:02:24 | Widget | 3.5. |
| 01:02:26 | [BZ]Ruudi | population i mean :) |
| 01:02:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah so less then :! |
| 01:02:41 | Widget | Same as Ireland. |
| 01:03:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.prn.ee/margit/saaremaa/saaremaa.html some pics from my home island |
| 01:03:17 | Widget | Wow... |
| 01:03:23 | Widget | I really want to visit Estonia now. :) |
| 01:03:54 | Widget | Why is Estonian such a difficult language!?!? |
| 01:04:08 | Widget | I bet you laugh at all the foreigners trying to learn it. |
| 01:04:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah here is some nice nature you can see nowhere else |
| 01:04:38 | Widget | How old are the towns pictured? |
| 01:04:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | heh well we got lot of those mormon guys here from utah or what ever and they speak a bit real fast |
| 01:05:01 | Widget | They actually managed to learn it? And it's not their native language? |
| 01:05:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | language is really sounds good and well it's hard but beautyful |
| 01:05:33 | Widget | It sounds like Finnish with all the word endings shortened. |
| 01:05:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | well they try to learn it but they wont do it with 2 years i guess :P |
| 01:06:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah it sounds bit more like italian finnish is like slower or more muddy |
| 01:06:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.prn.ee/margit/index.html -- maybe you found that allready...estonian towns and other stuff |
| 01:06:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | tourists photo book :) |
| 01:06:57 | Widget | Finnish sounds sort of like ancient Estonian. |
| 01:07:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | mm yeha maybe...finnish got own word for all things :) even sport is not sport :) |
| 01:08:42 | Widget | What is it... urheilu? |
| 01:08:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | in estonia i like most those little islands where only some people live on...like 10 or so :) |
| 01:08:52 | Widget | You're exaggerating? |
| 01:09:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:09:10 | doughecka | do those 10 people have dsl? |
| 01:09:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | exaggerating? what does that mean? |
| 01:09:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i dunno about dsl :PP |
| 01:09:26 | doughecka | internet? |
| 01:09:31 | doughecka | fast internet? |
| 01:09:37 | doughecka | if it does, sign me up |
| 01:09:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | nono i dunno about theyr internet :) |
| 01:09:43 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: liialdama |
| 01:10:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | liialdama - hmm hard to translate it into english |
| 01:10:08 | Widget | It means exxagerate. |
| 01:10:12 | Widget | Er.. |
| 01:10:14 | Widget | exaggerate. |
| 01:10:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | ahha :P |
| 01:10:35 | Widget | doughecka: NZ has really fast internet access. But it's really expensive. :( |
| 01:10:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | you mean i liialdan with 10 people |
| 01:10:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | there is some islands only 10 people live on |
| 01:11:12 | Widget | Exaggeration means like when you make the story bigger than it is. Like... "the man was big as a house". |
| 01:11:22 | Widget | He really wasn't, but you say it for dramatic effect. |
| 01:11:40 | Widget | Hm... how do 10 people manage to produce all the things they need? Do they ship most of their things in? |
| 01:11:47 | sussudio | wtttffff |
| 01:11:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | sure they ship in |
| 01:12:26 | Widget | chargeren |
| 01:12:38 | Widget | Wow. Only 10 people. |
| 01:12:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | they just like to live in theyr old home sure young people go out but those who old or those who do that nature protect thing they live and work in those places |
| 01:12:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | well you got a boat it's ok then |
| 01:13:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.saared.ee/teejuht/islands/vilsandi.html |
| 01:13:46 | Widget | BRB, have to run some errands. |
| 01:13:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | about island that got 20 population |
| 01:13:59 | doughecka | where is my gamma settings? |
| 01:14:02 | doughecka | they are gone! |
| 01:14:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | i bet it's smaller on winters |
| 01:16:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | no gamma anymore! novel: man who lost his gamma |
| 01:32:24 | doughecka | captain_proton!!! |
| 01:32:27 | doughecka | howdY! |
| 01:32:34 | doughecka | greetings and salutations! |
| 01:32:37 | doughecka | welcome! |
| 01:32:39 | doughecka | hi! |
| 01:32:40 | doughecka | hello! |
| 01:32:49 | doughecka | audiose! |
| 01:32:52 | doughecka | amigo1 |
| 01:33:19 | doughecka | and I am off to bed! |
| 01:33:23 | sussudio | uses the tranq darts on doughecka |
| 01:33:42 | doughecka | reflects them off and right back to sussudio |
| 01:34:00 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:36:32 | sussudio | they dont reflect |
| 01:36:53 | doughecka | stops them with his force field |
| 01:37:08 | doughecka | then throws them back |
| 01:37:44 | captain_proton | 'lo patlabor221 |
| 01:37:48 | captain_proton | is all drugged up |
| 01:37:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | yoyou all you tankers |
| 01:37:52 | patlabor221 | on? |
| 01:37:55 | doughecka | patlabor221!!! |
| 01:38:07 | doughecka | why cant I get to me gamme settings? |
| 01:38:10 | patlabor221 | yes that is my hastaly chosesn psudonim |
| 01:38:13 | doughecka | its missing... |
| 01:38:20 | patlabor221 | for what? |
| 01:38:29 | patlabor221 | you must identify what you speak? |
| 01:39:17 | doughecka | ordered the mobo |
| 01:39:29 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:39:36 | patlabor221 | how does thathave to do with game settings? |
| 01:39:58 | doughecka | nothin |
| 01:40:02 | doughecka | you where wonderin |
| 01:40:19 | doughecka | anyway, the whole geforce control panel is gone |
| 01:40:32 | doughecka | I cant find the opengl srttings |
| 01:40:45 | doughecka | and the gamma settings |
| 01:40:49 | patlabor221 | you runnin latest drivers? |
| 01:40:55 | doughecka | yup |
| 01:41:00 | doughecka | from nvidia |
| 01:41:05 | patlabor221 | version? |
| 01:41:27 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:41:54 | doughecka | 3.11.0130 |
| 01:42:01 | patlabor221 | tht's your bios version |
| 01:42:02 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:42:05 | doughecka | yes |
| 01:42:13 | patlabor221 | not the driver version |
| 01:42:14 | doughecka | ah |
| 01:42:23 | doughecka | 3.0.8.2 |
| 01:42:33 | patlabor221 | that is latets |
| 01:42:38 | doughecka | ok... |
| 01:42:44 | patlabor221 | search for NnTweak |
| 01:42:49 | patlabor221 | sorry nvtweak |
| 01:42:52 | doughecka | 7/16/2002 |
| 01:42:54 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:42:58 | patlabor221 | but what were you gonna change? |
| 01:43:06 | patlabor221 | you almost never need to go in there? |
| 01:43:09 | doughecka | gamma |
| 01:43:12 | doughecka | for a video |
| 01:44:01 | doughecka | nope |
| 01:44:08 | doughecka | nothin on my drive |
| 01:44:28 | patlabor221 | I don't have gama |
| 01:44:41 | patlabor221 | I have color management |
| 01:44:41 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:45:00 | patlabor221 | perhaps they removed it |
| 01:45:08 | doughecka | its under adapter, advanced |
| 01:45:16 | doughecka | patlabor221: I saw it there the otehr day! |
| 01:45:20 | doughecka | :( |
| 01:45:32 | patlabor221 | there is no advanced button on adapter |
| 01:45:36 | doughecka | bah |
| 01:45:41 | patlabor221 | there is on the GeForece2MX pane |
| 01:45:42 | doughecka | it was there a few days ago |
| 01:45:45 | sussudio | someone should really fix that connect hanging shit |
| 01:45:49 | doughecka | where is that? |
| 01:45:55 | patlabor221 | it's a tab |
| 01:45:58 | doughecka | what gefirce pane? |
| 01:46:01 | doughecka | nope |
| 01:46:06 | doughecka | I dont have that |
| 01:46:11 | patlabor221 | reinstall |
| 01:46:14 | doughecka | I did |
| 01:46:14 | patlabor221 | I do |
| 01:46:18 | doughecka | twice |
| 01:46:24 | patlabor221 | then you got somthing fugged |
| 01:46:26 | patlabor221 | what OS? |
| 01:46:28 | doughecka | 2000 pro |
| 01:46:34 | patlabor221 | dono man I got it |
| 01:46:43 | doughecka | I got the right driver... |
| 01:46:45 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:46:49 | patlabor221 | perhaps it knows that you have a pussy PC |
| 01:46:55 | sussudio | probably just got the stock win2000 driver |
| 01:46:58 | doughecka | how do I uninstall it? |
| 01:47:07 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:47:07 | patlabor221 | remove the device |
| 01:47:09 | sussudio | not the utils |
| 01:47:11 | doughecka | digital signer... |
| 01:47:23 | doughecka | hrm |
| 01:47:23 | patlabor221 | remove the device in hardware manager |
| 01:47:23 | doughecka | k |
| 01:47:25 | sussudio | download a driver from nvidia or something |
| 01:47:37 | sussudio | you REALLY dont wanna do that. |
| 01:47:48 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:47:48 | doughecka | puts sussudio on ignore |
| 01:47:55 | doughecka | ;) |
| 01:47:56 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:47:58 | patlabor221 | why would he not? |
| 01:47:59 | sussudio | removing a video driver from win2000.... |
| 01:48:03 | patlabor221 | works fine |
| 01:48:05 | sussudio | ok, do it.. find out why |
| 01:48:11 | doughecka | yea, all you do it remove it... |
| 01:48:12 | patlabor221 | I've done it lots of times |
| 01:48:19 | patlabor221 | it'll reaquire it on the restart |
| 01:48:23 | sussudio | under 2000? |
| 01:48:23 | patlabor221 | and reinstall the driver |
| 01:48:24 | doughecka | done it dozens of times |
| 01:48:25 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:48:32 | doughecka | gasp |
| 01:48:33 | patlabor221 | NT had issues |
| 01:48:35 | doughecka | rebooting... |
| 01:48:50 | doughecka | or click the uninstall butten? |
| 01:48:56 | doughecka | *click* |
| 01:49:04 | patlabor221 | now he's fugged |
| 01:49:14 | doughecka | rebooting it now... |
| 01:49:14 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:49:23 | sussudio | stops talking |
| 01:49:26 | doughecka | have to resort the the keyboard that is hooked up |
| 01:49:31 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:49:36 | patlabor221 | that usualy helps there sport |
| 01:49:39 | doughecka | I was using the WIN2VNC |
| 01:49:42 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:49:47 | patlabor221 | sussudio what issues have you had? |
| 01:49:56 | doughecka | from the GF comp to the emachine |
| 01:49:59 | sussudio | pwetty bluescreens'n'shit |
| 01:50:04 | patlabor221 | hmmm |
| 01:50:07 | doughecka | 2 comps, 1 mouse/keyboard |
| 01:50:07 | patlabor221 | never seen that |
| 01:50:17 | doughecka | cool |
| 01:50:17 | patlabor221 | ok doug, that's very nioce |
| 01:50:18 | doughecka | ie crashed |
| 01:50:18 | sussudio | it really hates it when you remove videodrivers under 2000 |
| 01:50:23 | patlabor221 | it's caled a VWM switch |
| 01:50:27 | doughecka | no |
| 01:50:37 | patlabor221 | I know what you are doing |
| 01:50:37 | doughecka | its called win2VNC |
| 01:50:46 | patlabor221 | yes but KVMs are better |
| 01:50:55 | doughecka | yea, but its money.. |
| 01:51:01 | patlabor221 | get a job |
| 01:51:04 | patlabor221 | nothingis free |
| 01:51:09 | doughecka | blah |
| 01:51:09 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:51:10 | patlabor221 | just restart |
| 01:51:14 | doughecka | it is |
| 01:51:28 | doughecka | http://www.hubbe.net/~hubbe/win2vnc.html |
| 01:51:36 | patlabor221 | doug: I don't care |
| 01:51:39 | doughecka | gets a drink |
| 01:52:00 | patlabor221 | sussudio: I have allways restarted after removing the device |
| 01:52:05 | patlabor221 | and it's been fine |
| 01:52:11 | patlabor221 | I've never tried to just remove the driver |
| 01:52:16 | patlabor221 | just the device |
| 01:52:20 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:52:27 | doughecka | how do I get rid of the checking drive thingy? |
| 01:52:35 | patlabor221 | let it check the drive |
| 01:52:38 | doughecka | it crashes everytime it boots |
| 01:52:43 | patlabor221 | ummm |
| 01:52:44 | doughecka | when it starts checking it |
| 01:52:46 | patlabor221 | then you have other issues |
| 01:52:48 | doughecka | bah |
| 01:52:55 | patlabor221 | is your drive OK? |
| 01:52:58 | doughecka | orders a 200 gig drive |
| 01:53:01 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:53:06 | patlabor221 | then you better get a card for it |
| 01:53:15 | doughecka | came out of a emachine |
| 01:53:16 | doughecka | ;) |
| 01:53:16 | patlabor221 | unless you only want to see 137 gigs of it |
| 01:53:23 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:53:25 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:53:27 | patlabor221 | I am serious |
| 01:53:34 | patlabor221 | you need mode 6 for that |
| 01:53:35 | doughecka | yes |
| 01:53:45 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:53:48 | doughecka | driver is gone! |
| 01:53:55 | doughecka | installing driver... |
| 01:53:56 | patlabor221 | now reinstall |
| 01:54:19 | doughecka | hmm! |
| 01:54:26 | doughecka | its detecting the new driver... |
| 01:54:34 | patlabor221 | please give more info the "hmmm" |
| 01:54:38 | patlabor221 | ok and...? |
| 01:54:41 | patlabor221 | this means? |
| 01:54:56 | doughecka | it was auto detecting the card |
| 01:55:01 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:55:01 | doughecka | I want to run the setup right? |
| 01:55:04 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:55:14 | doughecka | installing |
| 01:55:25 | patlabor221 | thank youfor the momemnt by moment update |
| 01:55:34 | doughecka | 27$ |
| 01:55:39 | patlabor221 | please |
| 01:55:40 | doughecka | 100% |
| 01:55:42 | doughecka | ;) |
| 01:55:46 | doughecka | rebooting |
| 01:55:47 | patlabor221 | don't make me ignore you again |
| 01:56:00 | doughecka | mutes |
| 01:56:23 | doughecka | samsung drive? |
| 01:56:33 | doughecka | = bad? |
| 01:56:44 | patlabor221 | do you know how to form sentances |
| 01:56:45 | sussudio | oh yeah. |
| 01:56:47 | patlabor221 | like |
| 01:56:53 | doughecka | k |
| 01:56:54 | patlabor221 | hey is a samsung drive bad? |
| 01:56:55 | sussudio | samsung very bad |
| 01:57:09 | doughecka | grins |
| 01:57:13 | patlabor221 | or is a samsung cdrom not soo good? |
| 01:57:20 | patlabor221 | and K is not a sentnace |
| 01:57:22 | doughecka | samsung drive |
| 01:57:28 | patlabor221 | hard or CDrom |
| 01:57:32 | sussudio | *shrug*. i think it's all OEM stuff so a cdrom is probably a different brand than the hd |
| 01:57:34 | doughecka | Hard |
| 01:57:46 | doughecka | woo, the driver is workin OK |
| 01:57:58 | patlabor221 | I shall not answer till you form a proper sentance. |
| 01:58:26 | patlabor221 | like See Dick run. |
| 01:58:38 | doughecka | The GeforceMX400 AGP driver for intel CPUs on windows 2000 pro and XP is working to the fullest extent |
| 01:58:43 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:59:04 | patlabor221 | I'm very happpy for you |
| 02:36:10 | Widget | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 02:36:10 | Widget | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 02:36:10 | Widget | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 02:36:14 | Widget | What does this mean? |
| 02:41:53 | jpablo | humm. |
| 02:42:05 | jpablo | you aren't loading the glx module. |
| 02:42:25 | Widget | modprobe: Can't locate module glx |
| 02:42:25 | jpablo | check your XF86Config |
| 02:42:33 | jpablo | it's a x module not a kernel module. |
| 02:42:37 | Widget | Oh. |
| 02:42:44 | Widget | For my X driver, I loaded "nv". |
| 02:42:58 | jpablo | no, you need a x module not a x driver. |
| 02:43:38 | Widget | Where do I get the module, and what do I add to the XF86Config-4¿? |
| 02:44:01 | jpablo | the module is included in X. |
| 02:44:11 | jpablo | check the "Modules" section. |
| 02:44:13 | jpablo | just add glx. |
| 02:44:37 | Widget | Load "glx" |
| 02:44:40 | Widget | It's there. |
| 02:45:01 | Widget | Load "dbe" |
| 02:45:01 | Widget | # Load the glx module. |
| 02:45:01 | Widget | Load "glx" |
| 02:45:01 | Widget | Load "extmod" |
| 02:45:01 | Widget | Load "type1" |
| 02:45:02 | Widget | Load "freetype" |
| 02:45:04 | Widget | EndSection |
| 02:45:20 | jpablo | humm. |
| 02:45:26 | jpablo | then you are fucked up :P |
| 02:45:32 | Widget | And when compiling BZFlag, I get the error: |
| 02:45:33 | Widget | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glxext.o): In function `__glXGetCurrentContext': |
| 02:45:34 | Widget | glxext.o(.text+0x1a): undefined reference to `pthread_key_create' |
| 02:45:34 | Widget | glxext.o(.text+0x31): undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific' |
| 02:45:56 | Widget | BZFlag worked earlier today... does it have something to do with the nvidia-glx-src package? |
| 02:46:01 | jpablo | just add -lptrhead to the compilation line. |
| 02:46:15 | jp_7_11 | brb. |
| 02:47:26 | sussudio | http://www.google.nl/search?q=cache:9OlX4ULxb8kC:distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/XFree86-4.0.2-SuSE/+%22Xlib:++extension+%22GLX%22+missing+on+display+%22:0.0%22.%22+nvidia&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 02:50:34 | Widget | This is bad. |
| 02:50:48 | Widget | I tried reinstalling the debs for nvidia-kernel-src and nvidia-glx-src. |
| 02:51:13 | sussudio | apt-get install nvidia-kernel-src nvidia-glx-src --reinstall |
| 02:51:50 | Widget | No difference. |
| 02:55:51 | Widget | OK, when I start X... |
| 02:56:16 | Widget | It has a fatal error (signal 4) when calling GlxExtentionInit. |
| 02:56:43 | sussudio | signal 4? |
| 02:56:46 | Widget | Yes. |
| 02:57:07 | Widget | "Caught signal 4. Server aborting." |
| 02:57:10 | jpablo | Widget: are you using the nv driver? |
| 02:57:21 | jpablo | Widget: is not the nvidia driver called 'nvidia' ? |
| 02:57:28 | jpablo | and the X stock one nv ? |
| 02:58:26 | Widget | The kernel module is NVdriver. |
| 02:58:26 | sussudio | Sig 4 usually happens in one of two cases. 1) Trying to execute |
| 02:58:26 | sussudio | non-executable code (like a bad function pointer might do). 2) A |
| 02:58:26 | sussudio | broken compiler or building with incompatible options (like building |
| 02:58:26 | sussudio | for a 686 architecture on a 586). |
| 02:58:35 | Widget | And the X one is nv |
| 02:58:41 | jpablo | Widget: humm, are you sure ? |
| 02:58:49 | jpablo | Widget: nv is the stock X one ... |
| 02:58:58 | Widget | Driver "nv" |
| 02:59:03 | Widget | In the XF86Config-4. |
| 02:59:11 | jpablo | yeah, that's the stock driver. |
| 02:59:20 | jpablo | you want the propetary nvdia driver. |
| 02:59:23 | jpablo | called 'nvidia'. |
| 02:59:24 | Widget | Oh. |
| 02:59:32 | Widget | Hm... that's what I had before, but it didn't work. |
| 02:59:33 | jpablo | did you read a INSTALL file before doing something ? |
| 03:00:00 | Widget | Oh, interesting. It worked. |
| 03:00:07 | Widget | I just installed the packages. |
| 03:00:17 | jpablo | humm. |
| 03:00:27 | jpablo | go and read the INSTALL. |
| 03:00:33 | jpablo | you need to changue others things in your config. |
| 03:08:55 | Widget | Yay, it works. |
| 03:09:16 | Widget | Except adding -lpthread to that line which generated errors in BZFlag compilation just resulted in fewer errors. |
| 03:09:31 | Widget | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(dri_glx.o): In function `OpenDriver': |
| 03:09:32 | Widget | dri_glx.o(.text+0x297): undefined reference to `dlopen' |
| 03:09:32 | Widget | dri_glx.o(.text+0x2a6): undefined reference to `dlerror' |
| 03:09:32 | Widget | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(dri_glx.o): In function `Find_CreateScreenFuncs': |
| 03:09:32 | Widget | dri_glx.o(.text+0x3a5): undefined reference to `dlsym' |
| 03:09:33 | Widget | dri_glx.o(.text+0x3d2): undefined reference to `dlclose' |
| 03:10:00 | Widget | But it got rid of these errors: |
| 03:10:01 | Widget | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a(glthread.o): In function `_glthread_InitTSD': |
| 03:10:01 | Widget | glthread.o(.text+0x21): undefined reference to `pthread_key_create' |
| 03:16:08 | Widget | hihihi, Patlabor221. |
| 03:16:11 | Patlabor221 | hi |
| 03:16:29 | Widget | Linux is so evil. |
| 03:16:40 | Patlabor221 | difrent not evil |
| 03:16:43 | Patlabor221 | just like windows |
| 03:16:54 | jpablo | Widget: also add -ldl |
| 03:16:58 | Widget | Oh. |
| 03:17:07 | Patlabor221 | what are you atempting to do? |
| 03:17:25 | Widget | I reinstalled Linux.. I think nearly everything is fixed now though. |
| 03:17:34 | jpablo | Patlabor221: he, mac + music ... ? |
| 03:17:52 | Widget | jpablo: Is there a way to not have to add those arguments? |
| 03:17:57 | Patlabor221 | it was 180 megs of it |
| 03:18:09 | Patlabor221 | had to clear off space today |
| 03:18:18 | jpablo | : |
| 03:18:20 | jpablo | :\ |
| 03:18:34 | Patlabor221 | should be upladed by tomorow |
| 03:18:44 | jpablo | ok, thanks. |
| 03:19:05 | jpablo | Widget: humm, yeah, but i don't know off hand. |
| 03:19:16 | jpablo | you need to relink that lib. |
| 03:19:53 | Widget | I don't know what that means. :) |
| 03:20:07 | jpablo | : |
| 03:20:09 | jpablo | :\ |
| 03:20:22 | Patlabor221 | bahhhh DIVX in X seesm to suck |
| 03:20:38 | jpablo | no, it rules ! |
| 03:20:44 | jpablo | what are you using ? |
| 03:20:53 | Widget | xine? |
| 03:20:57 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:21:05 | Patlabor221 | craps out after like 50 rames |
| 03:21:16 | jpablo | xine sucks, |
| 03:21:18 | jpablo | get mplayer. |
| 03:21:33 | Patlabor221 | or just move the file to my real computer |
| 03:22:04 | jpablo | also get mplayer, it is better. |
| 03:22:36 | Widget | What package is mplayer in? |
| 03:22:58 | jpablo | no packaged yet. |
| 03:27:51 | Widget | áááááááᦥ¥¥jpablo: What font do you use for xchat? |
| 03:28:05 | jpablo | the defaul one in 1.9.x |
| 03:28:17 | Widget | What is it? I messed it up :( |
| 03:28:35 | jpablo | Sans 12 |
| 03:28:59 | jpablo | but i'm using 1.9.x (gtk 2). |
| 03:29:10 | Widget | Hm, ya. |
| 03:29:15 | Widget | You compiled it yourself? |
| 03:29:25 | jpablo | yes. |
| 03:29:33 | Widget | Gasp! I thought jpablo never compiled anything, and got everything from packages! |
| 03:30:04 | jpablo | haha, dude i havd the whole gnome2 compiled from source 1 year ago :P. |
| 03:30:25 | jpablo | (yeah it sucked that time :P). |
| 03:32:37 | captain_proton | is back |
| 03:32:46 | Widget | Nooooo! |
| 03:33:12 | Widget | áááá¥Odd... all the fonts I select for X-Chat have no accents. |
| 03:34:24 | Widget | captain_proton: What font do you use for xchat? |
| 03:34:40 | Widget | jpablo: It's probably worse than Gnome 1. |
| 03:34:58 | Widget | jpablo: Just get Gnome 2 from sid! (If it's there) |
| 03:35:50 | jpablo | gnome2 is better. |
| 03:36:15 | captain_proton | Widget: i just use fixed(misc) |
| 03:36:19 | Patlabor221 | ok jpablo, that is a lot og boob bouncing |
| 03:36:25 | Patlabor221 | a bit too much |
| 03:36:35 | jpablo | Patlabor221: uh ? |
| 03:36:41 | Patlabor221 | golden boy |
| 03:36:41 | Widget | According to my sunclock, daylight is now spreading over Europe and Africa... in a bit, it will be ádaytime in London. |
| 03:36:52 | jpablo | Patlabor221: it rules :). |
| 03:37:02 | jpablo | Patlabor221: did you see all that already ? |
| 03:37:04 | Widget | captain_proton: OK, but there are no accents still. |
| 03:37:12 | Patlabor221 | just tried to watch it |
| 03:37:19 | jpablo | Widget: you need a iso-9thingy-1 font. |
| 03:37:20 | captain_proton | Widget: so? i don't speak a language that uses accents |
| 03:37:25 | Patlabor221 | I like a bit more deopth then shouting an bobies |
| 03:37:39 | jpablo | Patlabor221: oh, but it's a comedy. |
| 03:37:44 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 03:37:48 | Patlabor221 | just not my type |
| 03:37:51 | jpablo | Patlabor221: keep looking :P |
| 03:37:54 | Widget | It is currently iso10646 |
| 03:38:05 | Widget | Patlabor221: The best Manga/anime ever is Hikaru no Go! |
| 03:38:19 | Patlabor221 | in englishy |
| 03:38:27 | jpablo | nah, the best anime/manga ever made is Ah Megamisama! |
| 03:38:32 | Widget | They have English version. |
| 03:38:40 | Widget | Patlabor221: http://www.toriyamaworld.com |
| 03:38:45 | Patlabor221 | I would say yes it was good, I have them all |
| 03:38:48 | Patlabor221 | but not the best |
| 03:38:58 | Widget | jpablo: Hvarfor you use the Japanese name? |
| 03:39:16 | jpablo | Widget: i use whatever i feel like at the time i say it :P |
| 03:39:33 | jpablo | ah megamisama !, oh my goddes ! all them all rules ! |
| 03:39:46 | Widget | No! Hikaru no Go! |
| 03:39:51 | Patlabor221 | ts808 airbats is prety good too |
| 03:39:58 | jpablo | OH MY GODDESS ! |
| 03:39:58 | Patlabor221 | widget what is that in eng? |
| 03:40:08 | Patlabor221 | so I know of waht you speak? |
| 03:40:27 | Widget | Patlabor221: Something like "Hikaru of Go".... I don't know how to translate "no", it's the equivalent of Chinese "zi". |
| 03:40:32 | Widget | jpablo: Do you know? |
| 03:40:45 | jpablo | no really. |
| 03:41:12 | Patlabor221 | http://hometown.aol.com/dreamcaptor/WakiYamato.html |
| 03:41:13 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 03:41:18 | Widget | Even the English translation uses "Hikaru no Go" as its title. |
| 03:41:31 | Patlabor221 | There Goes the Modern Girl? |
| 03:41:34 | jpablo | http://omg.tfenet.com/ |
| 03:42:02 | Patlabor221 | hmmm widget never seen it |
| 03:42:09 | Widget | http://www.toriyamaworld.com/hikago/ |
| 03:42:11 | Patlabor221 | still don't look like my type |
| 03:42:14 | Widget | You can read it there. |
| 03:42:20 | Widget | One of the greatest Go players in history, Fujiwarano Sai, has been trapped inside a goban for many many years. A young boy, Shindo Hikaru, has the power to free Sai, and by doing so, opens a spot in his mind for Sai to stay. Hikaru trains so that he may catch up to his rival, Touya Akira, while Sai wishes only to attain "The Hand of God." |
| 03:42:20 | Widget | |
| 03:42:20 | Widget | |
| 03:42:20 | Widget | |
| 03:42:21 | Widget | |
| 03:42:23 | Widget | |
| 03:42:25 | Widget | |
| 03:42:39 | Patlabor221 | that don't tell me much |
| 03:42:50 | Widget | It's a wonderful manga. |
| 03:42:50 | jpablo | i also like miyazaky's work like: Grave of the fireflies and Naussica of the valley of the wind, that anime rules ! |
| 03:42:56 | Widget | Start reading it, it's free! |
| 03:43:14 | Widget | jpablo: What ISO thingummy do I need? |
| 03:43:31 | jpablo | Widget: iso-9something-1 |
| 03:44:10 | captain_proton | is upgrading all his gnu stuff |
| 03:44:21 | Widget | ISO-8859-1? |
| 03:44:29 | Patlabor221 | ohh no now he won't be able to compile ANYTHING |
| 03:44:49 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: hum? |
| 03:44:58 | Widget | Curses. It's probably some xfonts package I don't have. |
| 03:45:03 | jpablo | Widget: that. |
| 03:45:23 | Patlabor221 | just a joke, it seems that people have problems everytime there is a new GCC released |
| 03:46:31 | jpablo | just with c++ :P |
| 03:47:35 | Patlabor221 | you gotta work with what ya got |
| 03:47:57 | Patlabor221 | not everyone has time to re-write there stuff in emerging languages. |
| 03:51:38 | Patlabor221 | I sleep now |
| 03:52:33 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:52:38 | captain_proton | LGE.cpp:40: invalid static_cast from type `void (*)(void*)' to type `void*' |
| 03:54:14 | jpablo | well i'm off to bed. |
| 03:54:42 | Widget | Bye, jp_ZZZ. |
| 03:56:27 | Widget | hihihi, BZFlag. |
| 04:03:44 | BZFlagIndia | hey |
| 04:11:47 | captain_proton | woozes |
| 04:30:03 | captain_proton | how goes BZFlag? |
| 04:55:46 | Blind_Ambition | hiya meq |
| 04:56:11 | Blind_Ambition | anyone want to try 'Slack World' - i'm testing performance optimizations. |
| 04:56:34 | Blind_Ambition | 66.229.146.1 port 5158 |
| 05:01:14 | Blind_Ambition | anyone home? |
| 05:01:17 | Widget | Ya. |
| 05:01:24 | Blind_Ambition | hiya widget. |
| 05:01:30 | Widget | hihihi, Blind_Ambition. |
| 05:01:39 | Blind_Ambition | come check out 66.229.146.1 port 5158 |
| 05:01:49 | Widget | Is it on the server list? |
| 05:01:54 | Blind_Ambition | yes, it's called 'slack world' |
| 05:02:25 | Blind_Ambition | i'm testing a program that makes maps out of pictures - it will bring your graphics cards to its knees |
| 05:02:40 | Blind_Ambition | but the map is kind of funny |
| 05:02:51 | Widget | It crashes when I try. |
| 05:03:03 | Widget | I only have a TNT2. |
| 05:03:33 | Blind_Ambition | damn. |
| 05:04:18 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 05:05:09 | Widget | iLLf8d: Can you enter it? |
| 05:07:16 | Widget | The server doesnae allow observers. |
| 05:07:23 | Widget | hihihi, yoyoxIBM. |
| 05:08:48 | yoyox | Widget: ;> |
| 05:10:08 | Widget | yoyox: Czy mowi pan polski? |
| 05:10:40 | yoyox | Widget: Hyhy> Pewnie. |
| 05:11:07 | yoyox | Pewnie = Tak. |
| 05:11:14 | Widget | Ah. :) |
| 05:11:23 | yoyox | Mmnt. |
| 05:11:36 | Widget | Nie rozumiem... |
| 05:11:53 | Widget | Where in Poland are you from? |
| 05:12:23 | yoyox | Widget: Wroclaw. |
| 05:12:59 | Widget | yoyox: In the south-east? |
| 05:13:16 | yoyox | Yes. |
| 05:16:03 | Widget | Welcome back, yoyox. |
| 05:16:11 | yoyox | Widget: Hi ;> |
| 05:17:31 | yoyox | away (work ;-') |
| 05:18:13 | Widget | Wow, so early. |
| 05:18:33 | Widget | Oh, it's 8:25 in Poland. |
| 05:18:40 | yoyox | Yhy;> |
| 05:51:54 | fontenot | home again, home again |
| 05:56:45 | Blind_Ambition | who's on? |
| 06:05:32 | Blind_Ambition | join tank and me: 66.229.146.1 5158 |
| 06:41:15 | corndawg | hum... anyone alive? |
| 06:54:13 | bomber_ | moin |
| 07:14:06 | _Tamara_ | hm, just dont get it, the centrifugal force, dont understand that, its fictiv, but strange |
| 07:27:09 | bomber_ | whats problem with the centrifugal force ? |
| 07:45:22 | Cell_prog_insect | it simply does not exist, its strange to me |
| 07:46:57 | fontenot | centripetal, now that's a real force |
| 07:47:59 | Cell_prog_insect | if i do the following motion in x-y plane: X(t) = (r*cos(t),r*sin(t) ) , where t =[0,2pi[, X(t) is the position vector/fuction at t |
| 07:49:34 | Cell_prog_insect | then i get the centripetal force: A(t) = d^2/dt^2X(t) = (-r cos(t), -r sin(t)) |
| 07:49:43 | bomber_ | but when you have motion in a line but you use radial coordination system...you need it, for motion in are |
| 07:50:34 | Cell_prog_insect | write it down pls |
| 07:50:34 | Cell_prog_insect | so that i can see the centrifugal forse |
| 07:57:12 | bomber_ | force m(d²r/dt²)-mv²/r=qvxB_long...for example....particle in B field |
| 07:57:53 | bomber_ | but its only in radial...or better curvature coordinate system |
| 07:58:16 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 07:59:31 | Cell_prog_insect | so -mv^2/r is the centrifugal force, in rotating frame coordinates |
| 08:00:13 | bomber_ | you know that particle moving in straight line without force....but in radial coordinate system you need therefore centrifugal force |
| 08:00:21 | bomber_ | yes |
| 08:01:19 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 08:02:30 | Cell_prog_insect | how do u type v^2 the better way |
| 08:02:31 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 08:03:53 | bomber_ | v=r*omega=r*(dphi/dt) |
| 08:04:56 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 08:05:14 | bomber_ | or in your case....phi=t |
| 08:06:39 | | 9 |
| 08:06:39 | BZFlag | ibot 3 ** 2 |
| 08:07:51 | captain_pistachi | 'lo BZFlag |
| 08:07:55 | captain_pistachi | how goes/ |
| 08:07:55 | captain_pistachi | ? |
| 08:07:58 | | bzfrank was last seen on #bzflag 2 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying: later, need to work a bit... [Tue Aug 13 22:17:41 2002] |
| 08:07:58 | fontenot | ibot: seen bzfrank |
| 08:08:23 | BZFlag | captain_pistachi: fine fine. having another identity crisis? |
| 08:08:41 | captain_pistachi | BZFlag: huh? |
| 08:08:47 | BZFlag | pistachi |
| 08:08:53 | captain_pistachi | oh |
| 08:08:58 | captain_pistachi | whoops |
| 08:09:04 | BZFlagIndia | heh |
| 08:09:10 | captain_proton | apparently so |
| 08:09:11 | fontenot | india? |
| 08:09:29 | fontenot | i think i misses something while in vegas |
| 08:09:39 | captain_proton | right now i'm on an upgrading binge |
| 08:10:47 | captain_proton | BZFlagIndia: gotten some sightseeing done i hope? |
| 08:10:51 | BZFlagIndia | fontenot: yeah, I'm india working with infomart on the kaii pda coming out soon |
| 08:11:03 | BZFlagIndia | captain_proton: little. but lots of good food. |
| 08:12:58 | fontenot | BZFlagIndia: cool :-) |
| 08:13:06 | Cell_prog_insect | hm, india, thaz reminds me that im hungry => i make some rice now |
| 08:36:52 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 08:37:02 | captain_proton | anybody know about the status of gaim & gtk2? |
| 08:38:25 | fontenot | captain_proton: not I, but I usually ask on #gaim |
| 08:38:43 | fontenot | last I heard it was still broken a couple of weeks ago |
| 09:55:02 | bomber_ | is away: ham ham |
| 09:56:40 | MrCooper-work | does anyone know sharp or Exile1 |
| 09:56:42 | MrCooper-work | ? |
| 09:58:54 | Chestal | players? |
| 09:59:14 | MrCooper-work | yep, they joined DDD |
| 09:59:58 | Chestal | oh? they just joined without talking to you first? |
| 10:00:05 | Chestal | I think I've seen Exile before |
| 10:00:24 | MrCooper-work | well, we also joined without talking to AnachronyX :) |
| 10:00:44 | MrCooper-work | not that we'd have gotten any response likely |
| 10:01:11 | MrCooper-work | Chestal: please tell me he's as good as you are ;) |
| 10:02:04 | Chestal | hm, I don't really remember |
| 10:03:33 | MrCooper-work | let's see |
| 10:04:37 | Chestal | quite hot here today, hard to do work |
| 10:05:03 | MrCooper-work | what temperature? |
| 10:05:43 | Chestal | hmm, not sure, maybe 28C, so it's not that hot, but for weeks the temperature hasn't been over 21C |
| 10:06:44 | MrCooper-work | one week in June it was round 35 degrees here, terrible without air condition |
| 10:06:58 | Chestal | yes, same here, two very hot days |
| 10:07:07 | Chestal | of course there's no air condition here |
| 10:07:20 | Chestal | I'm on the 8th level, right below the roof |
| 10:07:25 | MrCooper-work | ouch |
| 10:07:26 | Chestal | and windows facing south |
| 10:07:41 | Chestal | actually, it's not that bad today, I'mprobably just lazy |
| 10:07:56 | MrCooper-work | we're not quite that lucky here, but it was very bad |
| 10:08:25 | MrCooper-work | you need to play a bit :) |
| 10:08:36 | Chestal | at least I can wear casual clothes, like shorts and sandals here |
| 10:28:42 | bomber_ | is back (gone 00:33:40) |
| 12:30:52 | strayer | hi all |
| 12:48:19 | strayer | jpablo: dont wanna pkay? |
| 12:48:23 | strayer | play |
| 12:58:07 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 12:58:07 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 12:58:09 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 13:24:06 | doughecka | ping! |
| 13:27:02 | jzaun | pong! |
| 13:27:09 | doughecka | wow |
| 13:27:17 | doughecka | pretty bad lag! |
| 13:27:24 | jzaun | heh |
| 13:27:25 | doughecka | like 60+ s |
| 14:28:44 | patlabor221 | jpablo you there? |
| 14:29:48 | jpablo | yeah. |
| 14:29:52 | jpablo | sup? |
| 14:30:00 | patlabor221 | you can get those mac + stuff at |
| 14:30:01 | patlabor221 | ftp://ftp.gibbscam.com/pub/outgoing/Vizkit/MacPlus.zip |
| 14:30:06 | jpablo | nice. |
| 14:30:11 | patlabor221 | 186 meg zip |
| 14:30:30 | jpablo | already downloading. |
| 14:30:49 | jpablo | 41k/s |
| 14:31:13 | patlabor221 | yeah it's my company T1 so there are customers using it too |
| 14:31:50 | jpablo | 41k/s is good, my adls gives my 52kb/s max. |
| 14:32:02 | patlabor221 | when that's done you can grab OS1.bin in the same folder |
| 14:32:13 | patlabor221 | it's the first ep of outlaw star |
| 14:32:21 | patlabor221 | jus rename it AVI |
| 14:32:27 | jpablo | ok. |
| 14:32:30 | patlabor221 | I can't have an AVI on the logs so.... |
| 14:32:45 | jpablo | hehe :) |
| 14:47:13 | doughecka | hey patlabor221! |
| 14:47:18 | patlabor221 | hye |
| 14:48:07 | doughecka | 17 KB |
| 14:48:19 | doughecka | ;) |
| 14:48:26 | patlabor221 | looks like I can get a XP 177 w/ mb and fan for 130 :) |
| 14:48:39 | doughecka | woah? |
| 14:48:42 | doughecka | where? |
| 14:49:02 | doughecka | buildone? |
| 14:49:03 | patlabor221 | econo PC |
| 14:49:08 | doughecka | ahh |
| 14:49:36 | patlabor221 | but that is a DDR MBobo |
| 14:49:44 | patlabor221 | I need a new second PC |
| 14:49:45 | doughecka | is that a good mobo? |
| 14:49:53 | doughecka | in it? |
| 14:49:56 | patlabor221 | yeah it's the one I have in my XP now |
| 14:49:59 | doughecka | cool |
| 14:50:13 | doughecka | hmm, coaston buildt PCS |
| 14:50:23 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 14:50:24 | doughecka | cool |
| 14:50:38 | doughecka | custom bult PCs |
| 14:53:14 | doughecka | hmm |
| 14:53:52 | doughecka | $369.55 for a 1.33 XP |
| 14:54:07 | doughecka | and a 20 gig drive and 64 megs of PC133 ram |
| 14:54:18 | doughecka | CD-rom |
| 14:54:28 | doughecka | and the K7s5a mobo |
| 14:56:06 | Widget | hihihi |
| 14:56:12 | doughecka | lo |
| 14:59:20 | Widget | Ruudi was up all night because it was 30C out.. I never thought northern Europe got this hot. |
| 14:59:38 | patlabor221 | hello widget |
| 14:59:43 | patlabor221 | up early I see |
| 14:59:43 | doughecka | hey Widget! |
| 14:59:46 | Widget | hihihi patlabor221. |
| 14:59:50 | Widget | I have to go tot he airport soon. |
| 14:59:58 | patlabor221 | for? |
| 15:00:01 | doughecka | what for? |
| 15:00:07 | doughecka | ... |
| 15:00:09 | Widget | Cousins. They're visiting. |
| 15:00:22 | doughecka | is that good or bad? |
| 15:00:32 | Widget | :) |
| 15:00:35 | Widget | No comment. |
| 15:00:40 | doughecka | I see |
| 15:00:42 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:01:25 | patlabor221 | hmm do I realy care about saving $6 |
| 15:01:33 | doughecka | yyyeesss |
| 15:01:38 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 15:01:47 | doughecka | its $6! |
| 15:01:57 | doughecka | imagin what you could do with it! |
| 15:02:07 | patlabor221 | yes but for $6 I get a 1700 and 2 more ddr ram slots |
| 15:02:07 | doughecka | like, buy gas or sometin |
| 15:02:12 | doughecka | lunch |
| 15:02:16 | Widget | Well, a few days ago, I was wondering whether to pick up a few $10,000 biñlls I had dropped on the pavement. |
| 15:02:19 | doughecka | woah, or that |
| 15:02:34 | doughecka | Widget: gosh, what did ya do? |
| 15:02:37 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:02:42 | Widget | I thought, "Well, what's a few $10,000 bills?". |
| 15:02:47 | Widget | But then I thought... |
| 15:02:50 | doughecka | hhaa |
| 15:02:51 | Widget | This sort of money can add up. |
| 15:02:56 | Widget | So I picked it up. |
| 15:03:08 | doughecka | 10,000 eh? |
| 15:03:13 | doughecka | in NZ money I guess |
| 15:03:25 | Widget | So? The NZD is strong. |
| 15:03:35 | doughecka | I was thinkin of US dollars |
| 15:03:36 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:03:47 | Widget | It's probably stiñll a lot in USD. |
| 15:03:50 | patlabor221 | doug check the conversion rate first |
| 15:04:07 | patlabor221 | widget must be rich she's super genius |
| 15:04:13 | doughecka | right.... |
| 15:04:26 | patlabor221 | graduated high school at 15 |
| 15:04:29 | doughecka | AI specialist, .inc |
| 15:04:33 | doughecka | inc. |
| 15:04:48 | Widget | 10,000.00 NZD New Zealand Dollars = 4,668.12 USD |
| 15:05:04 | Widget | 1 USD = 2.14219 NZD |
| 15:05:07 | doughecka | woah, you handle that much all the time? |
| 15:05:11 | Widget | No. |
| 15:05:13 | Widget | I don't. |
| 15:05:15 | Widget | I lied. :( |
| 15:05:16 | patlabor221 | that would buy a number of GF4s |
| 15:05:25 | doughecka | A number... |
| 15:05:26 | Widget | ;) |
| 15:05:32 | doughecka | like a couple dozen |
| 15:06:14 | patlabor221 | hmm to click the buy button or not? |
| 15:06:28 | doughecka | *click* |
| 15:06:32 | doughecka | there, I done it for ya |
| 15:06:45 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:06:57 | doughecka | why not get one of the redhat computers you are sellin |
| 15:07:02 | patlabor221 | I don't know about your computer, but on mine a click does not make text in the form of *click* |
| 15:07:04 | Widget | Hm.. |
| 15:07:11 | patlabor221 | they are just durrons |
| 15:07:12 | Widget | 1 USD = 32,799.20 ROL |
| 15:07:20 | doughecka | ROL = ? |
| 15:07:25 | Widget | Romanian Lei. |
| 15:07:29 | doughecka | yes |
| 15:07:34 | doughecka | I have a couple around here |
| 15:07:35 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:07:41 | Widget | I bet no one would pick up 100 ROL if you dropped it on the street. |
| 15:07:41 | doughecka | a couple lie |
| 15:07:41 | doughecka | lei |
| 15:07:55 | patlabor221 | bet they don't even make that in a coin |
| 15:08:06 | doughecka | hehe |
| 15:08:10 | Widget | A friend tells me the 100 Lei notes are impossible to get. |
| 15:08:18 | Widget | And they'e worthless. |
| 15:08:23 | patlabor221 | hmm I'll wait and see what Fry's has in the sunday add |
| 15:08:30 | doughecka | bet you would need a wheel barrow to move it wround |
| 15:08:35 | Widget | And if you go to Mcdonalds.... |
| 15:08:38 | doughecka | yum |
| 15:08:39 | Widget | And they owe you a few 100 Lei change... |
| 15:08:41 | patlabor221 | ick |
| 15:08:51 | Widget | They give you a basket of ketchup packets or something. |
| 15:08:53 | doughecka | ick = ick |
| 15:08:59 | doughecka | haha |
| 15:09:10 | Widget | BRB. |
| 15:09:11 | patlabor221 | yes doug, you have figured out equality very good |
| 15:09:25 | doughecka | is smart, aint he? |
| 15:09:32 | Widget | Yes, yesterday FantaZee told me "ick = ich". |
| 15:09:39 | Widget | He hasn't figured out equality yet. |
| 15:09:48 | Widget | Then again, maybe he was trying to correct my German. ;) |
| 15:09:53 | patlabor221 | damned public schools |
| 15:09:56 | doughecka | heh |
| 15:10:08 | doughecka | I dont go to no publik shcool |
| 15:10:12 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:10:39 | patlabor221 | yeah you go to kentycky school, those are specal. |
| 15:10:53 | doughecka | aint that right! |
| 15:11:12 | patlabor221 | so are you gonna get a new case for that P4? |
| 15:13:49 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:13:50 | doughecka | dunno |
| 15:13:57 | doughecka | he aint done called me yet |
| 15:14:10 | doughecka | switches out of redneck mode |
| 15:14:33 | doughecka | hmm, I guess hes gonna talk to his friend |
| 15:14:39 | doughecka | cuz he got the same computer |
| 15:14:42 | patlabor221 | proalby for the best |
| 15:14:44 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:16:04 | doughecka | hmm, my mouse is stuck on the wrong computer... |
| 15:16:07 | doughecka | and I cant get it back |
| 15:16:17 | patlabor221 | KVMS man |
| 15:16:17 | doughecka | ah, there it goes |
| 15:16:21 | patlabor221 | I'm telling ya |
| 15:16:40 | doughecka | bah, is KVM good video quality? |
| 15:16:44 | doughecka | like gaming and stuff? |
| 15:16:56 | patlabor221 | it's a swich |
| 15:16:59 | patlabor221 | hardware |
| 15:17:05 | patlabor221 | so what goes in comes out |
| 15:17:06 | doughecka | yes |
| 15:17:15 | doughecka | like those 18 buck ones? |
| 15:17:22 | doughecka | witht he big fat old switch? |
| 15:17:32 | doughecka | on front? or the digital ones? |
| 15:17:32 | patlabor221 | ohh no, those suck |
| 15:17:35 | doughecka | k |
| 15:17:36 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:17:42 | patlabor221 | digital 4 port ones |
| 15:17:43 | patlabor221 | like $60 |
| 15:17:45 | doughecka | ugh |
| 15:17:48 | doughecka | 60? |
| 15:17:49 | doughecka | where? |
| 15:17:49 | patlabor221 | with USB |
| 15:17:58 | patlabor221 | fry's |
| 15:18:08 | doughecka | bah! |
| 15:18:48 | doughecka | mumbles about moving out west, jusrt becuase there is a frys store |
| 15:21:35 | patlabor221 | there are places online with just as good prices |
| 15:21:41 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:21:50 | patlabor221 | I'm seeing 2 port ones for $49 |
| 15:22:01 | doughecka | all I need is 2 port |
| 15:23:50 | patlabor221 | now that was a good song "bananna moon love" |
| 15:24:33 | doughecka | if you say so |
| 15:25:08 | doughecka | are durons the same size as pentiums 4s? |
| 15:25:19 | patlabor221 | no P4's are larger |
| 15:25:27 | doughecka | larger? |
| 15:25:37 | doughecka | the one I put in was ahte size of a quarter... |
| 15:25:39 | patlabor221 | durrons and athalons are a the same size as P3s and cellys |
| 15:25:46 | doughecka | hmm, ok |
| 15:26:05 | patlabor221 | the P4 package is supposed to be larger |
| 15:26:15 | patlabor221 | but I don't know much about the newer P4s |
| 15:26:22 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:26:26 | patlabor221 | perhaps the new socket is smaller |
| 15:26:34 | doughecka | it sure seemed like it was small |
| 15:26:40 | patlabor221 | if could be if they got awway from the "ring of pins" thing |
| 15:26:51 | patlabor221 | and went with a full grid |
| 15:26:54 | doughecka | ring of pins? |
| 15:26:57 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 15:26:59 | doughecka | yea, its still there |
| 15:27:05 | doughecka | its not all pins |
| 15:27:19 | patlabor221 | wait he had a1.5 ? |
| 15:27:25 | doughecka | its got a empty spot near the center |
| 15:27:27 | patlabor221 | that's the older one I thing |
| 15:27:27 | doughecka | yea |
| 15:27:30 | doughecka | k |
| 15:27:50 | patlabor221 | all I know is that P4s take difrent fans becasue they are a difrent size |
| 15:28:01 | doughecka | hehe |
| 15:28:17 | patlabor221 | socket a is a difrent pin arangement then celly and P3 |
| 15:28:26 | patlabor221 | but they are the same size on top |
| 15:28:26 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:28:32 | doughecka | ok, like hwo big? |
| 15:28:36 | doughecka | how* |
| 15:28:46 | doughecka | about the siza of a half doller? |
| 15:28:51 | patlabor221 | like about an inch an 3/4 square |
| 15:28:55 | patlabor221 | larger |
| 15:28:58 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:28:59 | patlabor221 | not not much |
| 15:29:10 | doughecka | ok |
| 15:29:12 | patlabor221 | standard socket 390 size |
| 15:29:34 | patlabor221 | now are you talking packager size or die size? |
| 15:29:44 | doughecka | pack |
| 15:29:59 | patlabor221 | the P4 package was quartersized? |
| 15:30:05 | patlabor221 | that would heat like a mother |
| 15:30:19 | patlabor221 | no wonder they run hotter then the sun |
| 15:30:52 | doughecka | yes |
| 15:31:02 | doughecka | the heat sink is huge |
| 15:31:13 | patlabor221 | has to be to suck the heat outof that little thing |
| 15:31:30 | patlabor221 | second law of thermo dynamics and all |
| 15:31:35 | doughecka | yea, would it run better if it had a heatsink UNDER the mobo? |
| 15:31:53 | patlabor221 | no |
| 15:31:55 | doughecka | I bet the mobo gets hot too with the chip ontop |
| 15:32:04 | patlabor221 | then the heat has to go through the mobo |
| 15:32:15 | patlabor221 | it woudl run better if the damed pack was larger |
| 15:32:20 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:32:21 | doughecka | ok |
| 15:32:28 | patlabor221 | then the die dosn't get as hot |
| 15:32:32 | patlabor221 | and it's all good |
| 15:32:37 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:32:58 | patlabor221 | that's why durrons are rated to 90c core die temp |
| 15:33:05 | patlabor221 | and jusaly run around 40c |
| 15:33:15 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:33:18 | patlabor221 | the larger pack helps pull heat |
| 15:33:27 | doughecka | could durons run without the heat sink? |
| 15:33:32 | patlabor221 | no |
| 15:33:33 | doughecka | without melting down? |
| 15:33:39 | doughecka | I mean, would it shut of? |
| 15:33:41 | patlabor221 | it would not "melt" |
| 15:33:49 | patlabor221 | the materitals are stronger then that |
| 15:33:54 | doughecka | it would smoke |
| 15:33:58 | patlabor221 | no |
| 15:34:02 | patlabor221 | it woudl shut down |
| 15:34:09 | patlabor221 | there is nothing to burn |
| 15:34:19 | doughecka | good |
| 15:34:23 | patlabor221 | the CPU would stop working before it hit 450f |
| 15:34:29 | doughecka | well, I saw a toms hardware review |
| 15:34:34 | doughecka | they took the heatsink off a athlon |
| 15:34:40 | doughecka | and it smoked |
| 15:35:02 | patlabor221 | prolaby just the ink that is used for the leterting |
| 15:35:09 | patlabor221 | and the pac fiber |
| 15:35:10 | doughecka | but took the heat sink off a P4 and it clocked way down |
| 15:35:23 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:35:36 | patlabor221 | yes P4s can do that |
| 15:35:39 | patlabor221 | amds can't |
| 15:35:58 | patlabor221 | moslty cus P4's run hoter then hell |
| 15:36:11 | patlabor221 | so intell slows them down when they get hot |
| 15:36:24 | patlabor221 | I think they should have just fixed the heating problem |
| 15:36:36 | doughecka | hehe |
| 15:37:46 | patlabor221 | I think it's time too hook up sound support into BZA |
| 15:38:01 | doughecka | cheers |
| 15:38:16 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:38:21 | doughecka | ok... |
| 15:38:22 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 15:38:27 | patlabor221 | all it has is menus now |
| 15:38:29 | doughecka | where do you see a KVM for $49? |
| 15:38:42 | patlabor221 | the same answer as allways |
| 15:38:46 | patlabor221 | PRICEWATCH |
| 15:38:49 | doughecka | do the menus work? |
| 15:38:49 | doughecka | do anything? |
| 15:38:53 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 15:39:00 | doughecka | ooh, right |
| 15:39:06 | doughecka | I see |
| 15:39:12 | patlabor221 | dosn't even let you drive around anymore |
| 15:39:23 | doughecka | no? |
| 15:39:29 | doughecka | what does it do? |
| 15:39:50 | patlabor221 | shows 2 menus and a spinning textured plane |
| 15:39:54 | | yes, doughecka? |
| 15:39:54 | doughecka | ibot? |
| 15:40:06 | doughecka | cool |
| 15:40:13 | patlabor221 | but it runs on linux damnit :) |
| 15:40:28 | doughecka | haha |
| 15:40:37 | patlabor221 | or so cap tells me |
| 15:40:45 | patlabor221 | I have not seen the code |
| 15:41:03 | doughecka | hehe |
| 15:42:25 | patlabor221 | hey widget |
| 15:42:52 | patlabor221 | I found the orcistrated stuper metroid too |
| 15:42:54 | doughecka | hmm, I dont see KVM on pricewatch |
| 15:43:40 | patlabor221 | do a search for KVM and USB |
| 15:43:46 | patlabor221 | use the power that was given to you |
| 15:43:46 | | yes, doughecka? |
| 15:43:46 | doughecka | ibot? |
| 15:43:58 | doughecka | hmm, dsl seems to be very slow today |
| 15:44:51 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:44:51 | doughecka | File . Unspecified error |
| 15:44:57 | doughecka | from pricewatch |
| 15:45:07 | doughecka | I entered in KVM and USB |
| 15:45:14 | patlabor221 | you ahve issues |
| 15:45:29 | patlabor221 | sometimes you just have to figure things out for yourself |
| 15:45:34 | patlabor221 | think... try... |
| 15:45:36 | doughecka | I do |
| 15:45:57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:48:09 | doughecka | whoa, a 24 inch LCD $3559 |
| 15:48:37 | doughecka | then again, 50 inch plasma for $6445 |
| 15:48:41 | | doughecka? |
| 15:48:41 | doughecka | ibot? |
| 15:48:55 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 15:48:59 | doughecka | one of us is laggin |
| 15:49:01 | patlabor221 | doug do that in a private message to him |
| 15:49:05 | patlabor221 | so we don't have to see |
| 15:49:09 | patlabor221 | be considerate |
| 15:49:17 | doughecka | yes |
| 15:49:25 | patlabor221 | 50 plasmas are just TVs |
| 15:49:30 | patlabor221 | low res |
| 15:49:39 | doughecka | oh |
| 15:49:45 | patlabor221 | for presnetations |
| 15:49:48 | doughecka | good for dvds? |
| 15:49:53 | patlabor221 | they are TVs |
| 15:49:57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 15:49:59 | patlabor221 | like a very nice 50 TV |
| 15:50:02 | doughecka | k |
| 15:50:31 | doughecka | very ince expensive huge and heavy TV |
| 15:51:40 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 15:52:02 | doughecka | whoah |
| 15:52:17 | doughecka | [12:51] *** CTCP PING reply from patlabor221: 7 seconds |
| 15:52:17 | doughecka | :) |
| 15:53:06 | doughecka | hmm, $36 for a GF4 TI 4400 |
| 15:53:39 | doughecka | bah, its 3D glasses |
| 15:54:25 | jpablo | HA ! |
| 15:54:32 | jpablo | that mac + music is here ! |
| 15:54:41 | patlabor221 | information high man |
| 15:54:49 | doughecka | I have 2 hours left |
| 15:54:57 | patlabor221 | if we get the transient facts |
| 15:55:32 | doughecka | *** CTCP PING reply from Chestal: 10 seconds |
| 15:55:42 | doughecka | *sigh* |
| 15:55:49 | patlabor221 | yes your DSL sucks we all know this |
| 15:56:18 | doughecka | hmm, is the GF4MX like a GF3? |
| 15:56:32 | doughecka | hey Widget! |
| 15:56:45 | doughecka | [12:56] *** CTCP CLOAK: Ignoring CTCP PING request from Widget. |
| 15:57:07 | doughecka | ping heck.no-ip.com |
| 15:57:20 | patlabor221 | no a MX has no shaders |
| 15:57:27 | patlabor221 | it's slower then a 3 |
| 15:57:51 | patlabor221 | the 4mx is just a faster 2mx |
| 15:57:51 | doughecka | what does shaders do? |
| 15:57:55 | doughecka | pixal shaders? |
| 15:58:01 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 15:58:03 | patlabor221 | doom 4 |
| 15:58:08 | doughecka | oh, cool |
| 15:58:10 | patlabor221 | all about the shaders |
| 15:58:18 | patlabor221 | MX = no shaders |
| 15:58:19 | doughecka | like I play doom |
| 15:58:23 | doughecka | doom = ugh |
| 15:58:33 | patlabor221 | have you seen doom 4? |
| 15:58:47 | doughecka | yea |
| 15:58:51 | doughecka | its nasty |
| 15:58:55 | doughecka | grafics = ugh |
| 15:59:01 | patlabor221 | are you on crack |
| 15:59:03 | doughecka | grins |
| 15:59:17 | patlabor221 | that's one of the best uses of modern hardware |
| 15:59:18 | patlabor221 | out there today |
| 15:59:35 | doughecka | yah yah, a huge wast 'o time |
| 15:59:40 | doughecka | ;) |
| 15:59:52 | patlabor221 | thems fihgten words boy |
| 16:00:06 | doughecka | you play it? |
| 16:00:14 | patlabor221 | it's not out yet |
| 16:00:17 | patlabor221 | you know nothing |
| 16:00:24 | doughecka | er, yes |
| 16:00:28 | doughecka | will you play it? |
| 16:00:36 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 16:00:48 | patlabor221 | but I look more forward to quake 4 |
| 16:00:49 | doughecka | there is hope for you yet! |
| 16:00:53 | doughecka | *sigh* |
| 16:01:00 | doughecka | and I have to go... |
| 16:01:02 | patlabor221 | it will have better game design |
| 16:01:05 | patlabor221 | yay |
| 16:01:09 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:01:11 | patlabor221 | does a little dance |
| 16:01:13 | doughecka | quake 4 eh? |
| 16:01:16 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 16:01:22 | patlabor221 | raven is doing it |
| 16:01:26 | doughecka | I liked team fortress in quake |
| 16:01:28 | patlabor221 | very good design house |
| 16:01:38 | doughecka | that runs fun |
| 16:01:40 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:01:41 | doughecka | yes |
| 16:01:44 | doughecka | myst? |
| 16:01:51 | patlabor221 | go awway |
| 16:01:51 | doughecka | I think... |
| 16:02:08 | doughecka | is befuddeld |
| 16:02:15 | patlabor221 | not a game ,it's a hypercard stack |
| 16:02:22 | patlabor221 | get used to it |
| 16:02:31 | doughecka | yea, but I mean the new myst |
| 16:02:38 | doughecka | real myst |
| 16:02:41 | doughecka | or what ever |
| 16:02:53 | patlabor221 | still crap |
| 16:02:59 | patlabor221 | it was a good idea |
| 16:03:03 | patlabor221 | but failed in execution |
| 16:03:04 | doughecka | I have my myst cd... |
| 16:03:09 | doughecka | for the mac only |
| 16:03:09 | doughecka | ;) |
| 16:03:23 | patlabor221 | like I said hypercard stack |
| 16:04:01 | doughecka | yup |
| 16:04:10 | doughecka | hypercord rules! |
| 16:04:12 | patlabor221 | but I'll bet you don't even know what that is |
| 16:04:16 | doughecka | card* |
| 16:04:27 | doughecka | my mom programmed in hypercard... |
| 16:07:13 | patlabor221 | jpablo don't forget to get that ep of outlaw star |
| 16:09:57 | patlabor221 | ahhhhhhh BGM in a game, it's a good thing |
| 16:11:31 | | Widget? |
| 16:11:31 | Widget | ibot? |
| 16:11:36 | jpablo | patlabor221: already got 35MB of that :). |
| 16:11:47 | patlabor221 | cool |
| 16:13:59 | jpablo | wow, that mac + music rules. |
| 16:14:16 | jpablo | bah, i have to go to school ;\ |
| 16:14:23 | jpablo | needs a portable mp3 player. |
| 16:15:21 | Widget | jpablo listens to mp3s!?!? |
| 16:15:23 | Widget | And not oggs? |
| 16:16:07 | jpablo | i listen whatever i have. |
| 16:16:12 | jpablo | and it happends to be in mp3. |
| 16:16:37 | jpablo | but you are rigth i need a mp3/ogg portable player :-) |
| 16:17:28 | Widget | I think the Sharp Zaurus has an ogg and mp3 player. |
| 16:18:58 | patlabor221 | computers are tools, not sttements about personal options on liscense agreements |
| 16:19:27 | Widget | But oggs take up less space! |
| 16:19:31 | patlabor221 | since ogg just hit 1.0 I don't think there will be many plaers that are ready to support them |
| 16:19:32 | Widget | For the same bitrate. |
| 16:19:45 | patlabor221 | yes but everyone know about MP3 |
| 16:20:04 | patlabor221 | it's the VHS beta thing |
| 16:20:40 | jpablo | hehe, i rip all my cd's in ogg. |
| 16:20:50 | jpablo | the qulity is better and less space. |
| 16:21:08 | patlabor221 | I'm gonna keep my existing MP3 |
| 16:21:21 | patlabor221 | I don't wnat to go back and rip all my CDs again |
| 16:21:22 | jpablo | me too. |
| 16:21:25 | jpablo | :P |
| 16:21:32 | patlabor221 | that would take eons |
| 16:21:42 | jpablo | also some people convert mp3->ogg that's a crime ! |
| 16:21:54 | patlabor221 | no it just soudns like crap |
| 16:22:32 | jpablo | anyone who convers mp3->ogg should be in jail. |
| 16:22:38 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 16:22:38 | Widget | listens to Waltzing Matilda. |
| 16:22:42 | Widget | jpablo: Chestal does it! |
| 16:22:51 | jpablo | cause it sound UGLY. |
| 16:23:04 | patlabor221 | well supid peopole should't breed but they do |
| 16:23:10 | patlabor221 | deal with it |
| 16:23:11 | jpablo | hehe. |
| 16:23:31 | Widget | Waltzing Matilda is the best song ever. |
| 16:23:44 | Widget | Though it is an Ozzy song.. |
| 16:23:47 | patlabor221 | I have a had good luck using winamp to make the mp3 into a wav with output processing |
| 16:24:04 | patlabor221 | then make that into an ogg |
| 16:24:20 | Widget | Isn't that how everyone converts it? |
| 16:24:25 | Widget | I thought oddenc only turned wavs into oggs. |
| 16:24:28 | patlabor221 | not as clean as a raw rip but pasaable for most things |
| 16:24:36 | Widget | And you can have mpg321 output as a wave. |
| 16:24:39 | patlabor221 | not there are converters that have crap mp3 decoders |
| 16:24:57 | patlabor221 | and I run a cleanup pass on them |
| 16:25:21 | patlabor221 | but I only do that for thigns that have to be in ogg, like for the sound libs on lin. |
| 16:25:47 | patlabor221 | I wish there was a version of gaudio for lin |
| 16:26:05 | patlabor221 | looks for sound effects |
| 16:27:33 | jpablo | use wine baby :P |
| 16:27:48 | patlabor221 | wine for a lib? |
| 16:28:00 | jpablo | oh ... |
| 16:28:06 | patlabor221 | it's a sound lib |
| 16:28:09 | patlabor221 | not a n app |
| 16:28:18 | jpablo | you can do that also. |
| 16:28:19 | patlabor221 | very clean API |
| 16:28:30 | patlabor221 | I don't want my lin version to require wine |
| 16:28:42 | patlabor221 | and I don't have the source to gaudio |
| 16:28:59 | jpablo | then write a free, portable close :-) |
| 16:29:07 | patlabor221 | I'll get get cap to hook up my wraper API into SDL |
| 16:29:14 | patlabor221 | I have a class |
| 16:29:32 | patlabor221 | I just don't know SDLmixer engouht to hook it in |
| 16:29:57 | Widget | Australia: Land of Football, Meat Pies, Kangaroos, and Holden Cars. |
| 16:31:13 | jpablo | HAAAAA! |
| 16:31:23 | jpablo | dub ! |
| 16:31:36 | jpablo | patlabor221: DUB ! |
| 16:31:46 | jpablo | :\ |
| 16:31:52 | jpablo | i'm a sub zealot. |
| 16:32:02 | patlabor221 | you will live |
| 16:32:07 | patlabor221 | I made that myself |
| 16:32:17 | patlabor221 | and I don't know how to do the subs yet |
| 16:32:34 | patlabor221 | the voice acting is rather good on this one |
| 16:32:42 | patlabor221 | same team that did cowboy beebop |
| 16:32:45 | jpablo | oh. |
| 16:32:54 | jpablo | well i'll see it when i get back from school |
| 16:32:57 | jpablo | i'm off. |
| 16:33:41 | patlabor221 | bah at zellots |
| 16:33:48 | patlabor221 | proalby thinks akira is the best thing ever |
| 16:34:02 | patlabor221 | and if he want's a comedy try geobreeders |
| 16:34:16 | doughecka | grins |
| 16:36:28 | patlabor221 | awwyeah |
| 16:36:40 | patlabor221 | salrom moon theme song ... IN GERMAN |
| 16:36:44 | patlabor221 | where did I get that |
| 16:37:05 | patlabor221 | crap... it's not half bad |
| 16:37:05 | doughecka | wonders how much dust is allowed to cover a celly befor it dies |
| 16:37:16 | Widget | Does the US have a cricket team? |
| 16:37:18 | patlabor221 | 4.6 inchhes |
| 16:37:24 | Widget | I know they never play, but do they have one? |
| 16:37:25 | patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 16:37:29 | doughecka | ok, its not that far yet |
| 16:37:35 | doughecka | Widget: I hope not |
| 16:37:40 | doughecka | ;) |
| 16:38:16 | Widget | doughecka: Yes, you'd be rotten at it. |
| 16:38:27 | doughecka | grins |
| 16:38:33 | doughecka | at least I can play pool |
| 16:39:01 | patlabor221 | pool is easy |
| 16:39:01 | Widget | Americans never play sports that other countries play! |
| 16:39:06 | patlabor221 | it's just base mechanics |
| 16:39:15 | patlabor221 | hockey |
| 16:39:17 | patlabor221 | socker |
| 16:39:19 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:39:22 | doughecka | ,and fun too |
| 16:39:29 | doughecka | hockey is fun |
| 16:39:33 | doughecka | socker is fun |
| 16:39:39 | doughecka | basiball is boooring |
| 16:39:46 | patlabor221 | it's not a sport |
| 16:39:50 | patlabor221 | it's an activity |
| 16:39:50 | doughecka | baseball is borking |
| 16:39:59 | Widget | Americans only play ice hockey, which no one else plays. |
| 16:39:59 | doughecka | hmm, yes |
| 16:40:01 | patlabor221 | stop while your ahead man |
| 16:40:12 | patlabor221 | candada does |
| 16:40:16 | patlabor221 | and rusha |
| 16:40:18 | doughecka | k, I ran out of sports |
| 16:40:34 | patlabor221 | and sking |
| 16:40:56 | patlabor221 | what do you guys play? |
| 16:41:07 | Widget | Yes, the fifty first state also plays ice hockey. |
| 16:41:14 | Widget | So? |
| 16:41:45 | patlabor221 | they should just be a state |
| 16:41:56 | doughecka | who? russia? |
| 16:42:01 | Widget | Canada. |
| 16:42:02 | doughecka | or canada? |
| 16:42:02 | patlabor221 | *sigh* |
| 16:42:09 | doughecka | oh |
| 16:42:10 | Widget | http://www.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/educational/Lumpy_politicalmap.jpg |
| 16:42:14 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:42:41 | doughecka | haha |
| 16:43:10 | patlabor221 | bad, but very funny |
| 16:43:46 | doughecka | So,ething awful, the internet makes you stupid |
| 16:44:39 | patlabor221 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ proof of concept^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 16:44:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 16:44:58 | doughecka | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ true^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 16:45:05 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: hihihi |
| 16:48:17 | Widget | hihihi, [BZ]Ruudi. |
| 16:48:25 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Does Estonia have a football team? |
| 16:48:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah we have one |
| 16:49:04 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno mutch about it not any good i guess |
| 16:49:04 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: does estonia have a national anthom? |
| 16:49:10 | Widget | doughecka: Yes, they do. |
| 16:49:15 | Widget | doughecka: Same tune as the Finnish one. |
| 16:49:18 | Widget | doughecka: But different lyrics. |
| 16:49:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | national anthem sure we got even same tune with finnalnd :P |
| 16:49:28 | doughecka | what is the finish one? |
| 16:49:37 | doughecka | gah |
| 16:49:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | dunno who had that tune first :) |
| 16:49:42 | doughecka | google... |
| 16:49:43 | Widget | Mu isamaa, mu õnn ja rõõm, |
| 16:49:54 | Widget | Hm. |
| 16:49:59 | [BZ]Ruudi | My father land my luck and lust :P |
| 16:50:02 | Widget | kui kaunis oled sa! |
| 16:50:15 | Widget | Ei leia mina ilal tÑääl |
| 16:50:40 | [BZ]Ruudi | tääl - is kind of agient word not used mutch on nowdays |
| 16:50:58 | Widget | Does eesti keeles mean "In Estonian"? |
| 16:51:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | yes |
| 16:51:13 | doughecka | hhee |
| 16:51:19 | Widget | Doesn't it have a case marking? |
| 16:51:22 | doughecka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~jnuotio/mids/hymn_en.html |
| 16:51:33 | doughecka | My native land, my joy, delight, |
| 16:51:33 | doughecka | How fair thou art and bright! |
| 16:51:33 | doughecka | And nowhere in the world all round |
| 16:51:33 | doughecka | Can ever such a place be found |
| 16:51:33 | doughecka | So well beloved as I love thee, |
| 16:51:34 | doughecka | My native country dear! |
| 16:51:35 | Widget | Like in Finnish, Suomea is Finnish and Suomeksi is "in Finnish". |
| 16:51:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | case marking? what is case marking i know what case is but.. |
| 16:52:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | eesti keel - eesti keeles |
| 16:52:07 | doughecka | Mu isamaa, mu õnn ja rõõm, |
| 16:52:08 | doughecka | kui kaunis oled sa! |
| 16:52:08 | doughecka | Ei leia mina iial tääl, |
| 16:52:08 | doughecka | see suure laia ilma pääl, |
| 16:52:08 | doughecka | mis mull' nii armas oleks ka, |
| 16:52:08 | doughecka | kui sa, mu isamaa! |
| 16:52:09 | Widget | Why doesn't the ending of "eesti" change instead of adding the "keeles".... Like in Finnish, Suomea is Finnish and Suomeksi is "in Finnish". |
| 16:52:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | estonian - in estonian |
| 16:52:23 | Widget | Ohh...... eesti keel is Estonian language? |
| 16:52:24 | doughecka | hehe |
| 16:52:33 | [BZ]Ruudi | yes |
| 16:52:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | the word language - keel changes the ending |
| 16:52:54 | doughecka | EESTI HÜMN |
| 16:52:54 | doughecka | Music: F. Pacius |
| 16:52:55 | doughecka | Lyrics: J.V. Jannsen |
| 16:53:02 | doughecka | HUMN |
| 16:53:04 | Widget | The Finnish version is not the Finnish anthem.. it is just a translation of the Estonian words. But the real Finnish anthem uses the same tune. |
| 16:53:31 | doughecka | so finnish stole it? |
| 16:53:36 | Widget | No. |
| 16:53:41 | Widget | It was written by a Finn. |
| 16:53:44 | Widget | Fredrik Pacius. |
| 16:53:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | those cases in estonian are real bad to learn all words go in cases theyr own way and there is 14 cases :P |
| 16:53:56 | doughecka | oh |
| 16:54:19 | doughecka | grins |
| 16:54:19 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: I know.. it's like Finnish. _Every_ word takes cases in its own way? |
| 16:54:24 | BZFrank | hi |
| 16:54:25 | doughecka | what is NZ HUMN? |
| 16:54:27 | Widget | BZFrank! |
| 16:54:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | yes |
| 16:54:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | like finnish |
| 16:54:36 | Widget | It's "God Defend New Zealand". |
| 16:54:37 | doughecka | hey BZFrank! |
| 16:54:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | and they got 16 cases if i know right |
| 16:54:42 | BZFrank | hi widget, doug! :) |
| 16:54:46 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: So none of the case endings are the same? |
| 16:54:51 | doughecka | get OS X out yet? |
| 16:54:51 | doughecka | ;) |
| 16:54:53 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: For different words? |
| 16:54:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | but we got no gender and got no future and stuff like that |
| 16:55:05 | BZFrank | no, no time yet - but fixed some network bugs |
| 16:55:19 | patlabor221 | hey frank |
| 16:55:19 | doughecka | new version out? |
| 16:55:21 | BZFrank | forgot to update in some cases ;) |
| 16:55:29 | BZFrank | hey pat |
| 16:55:32 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:55:39 | Widget | doughecka: "Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light" |
| 16:55:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | well there is sure same endings but there is lot of tifferent types...no way to learn em you must feel it and just speak a lot |
| 16:56:02 | doughecka | Widget: hmm |
| 16:56:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | by the dawns of early light hmm |
| 16:56:10 | doughecka | Widget: sorta sounds like the same |
| 16:56:12 | BZFrank | soon, currently I am most busy a) proparing a prototype for a presentatiion 24. August and b) build a new pc |
| 16:56:14 | [BZ]Ruudi | i dont get it right in english maybe |
| 16:56:21 | Widget | doughecka: No, that's your anthem, right? |
| 16:56:31 | Widget | Ooh, presentation? |
| 16:56:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah i'm messed :P |
| 16:56:36 | Widget | To whom? |
| 16:56:44 | doughecka | yah |
| 16:56:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | those anthems i guess they all basicli same |
| 16:57:08 | BZFrank | not p2501, a prepress system to converted preseparated PostScript to composite PDF for newpapers and publishing houses |
| 16:57:17 | BZFrank | my 'real' work ;) |
| 16:57:40 | patlabor221 | ahhh, that's kinda cool |
| 16:57:40 | doughecka | you do that stuff? |
| 16:57:46 | BZFrank | yep |
| 16:57:52 | doughecka | how far are you from heidelberg? |
| 16:57:58 | BZFrank | ca. 100 km |
| 16:58:04 | BZFrank | why? |
| 16:58:08 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:58:25 | doughecka | I know a guy there, that is getting his own press running |
| 16:58:39 | Widget | doughecka: http://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/sounds/mp3/Estonia.mp3 |
| 16:58:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | ill go ducati |
| 16:58:47 | Widget | OK. |
| 16:58:56 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:59:03 | BZFrank | there are some, but mostly I sell to the biggies, they tend to pay better and faster these days ;) |
| 16:59:22 | doughecka | cool |
| 16:59:30 | doughecka | hehe |
| 16:59:53 | doughecka | do you make stuff for the mac? |
| 17:00:11 | BZFrank | sort of - I build the core component and my buddy Andrew does the GUI and stuff |
| 17:00:22 | BZFrank | see http://www.stone.com |
| 17:00:24 | doughecka | oh, cool |
| 17:00:33 | doughecka | for OS X, but what about OS 9 and stuff? |
| 17:00:33 | doughecka | ok |
| 17:00:52 | BZFrank | we even presented on MacWorld, large booth, even dancers ;) |
| 17:00:59 | doughecka | E Ihoa, Atua, |
| 17:01:00 | doughecka | O nga Iwi! Matoura. |
| 17:01:00 | doughecka | Ata whaka rongona; |
| 17:01:00 | doughecka | Me aroha noa. |
| 17:01:06 | doughecka | eh? |
| 17:01:06 | doughecka | haha |
| 17:01:07 | patlabor221 | whooot booth babes!!!! |
| 17:01:11 | BZFrank | no MacOS, it is largly dead now anyway (the market) |
| 17:01:23 | doughecka | gotta have those, I guess |
| 17:01:26 | doughecka | BZFrank: yes |
| 17:01:37 | BZFrank | well, I had no time for NY but Andrew told me it was nice ;) |
| 17:01:39 | BZFrank | cu |
| 17:01:46 | doughecka | cya |
| 17:01:48 | BZFrank | ups, wrong window ;) |
| 17:01:50 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:02:08 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:02:16 | doughecka | is there a new p2501 out? |
| 17:02:20 | doughecka | for downloading |
| 17:02:22 | doughecka | ? |
| 17:02:28 | BZFrank | no, only internally |
| 17:02:38 | doughecka | ah, pl |
| 17:02:38 | BZFrank | this stencil shadows |
| 17:02:40 | doughecka | ok |
| 17:02:51 | BZFrank | with... |
| 17:02:54 | patlabor221 | hates it when he overwrites newer versionos of projects with older ones from zip disks |
| 17:02:57 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:03:12 | doughecka | backups are great! |
| 17:03:26 | BZFrank | pat: yeah, that keep me bumping on the desk also |
| 17:03:39 | BZFrank | one reason I do a backup each day |
| 17:03:53 | doughecka | Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit, |
| 17:03:55 | doughecka | Für das deutsche Vaterland! |
| 17:03:57 | patlabor221 | ohh I have backups |
| 17:04:13 | BZFrank | there will be no new version until I got this new PCy running |
| 17:04:17 | patlabor221 | now I can add sound the correct verion of BZA |
| 17:04:23 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:04:34 | BZFrank | Shuttle SS51G, P4 2.4 Ghz, Matrox Parhelia 512 |
| 17:04:36 | doughecka | hmm AUGUST HEINRICH HOFFMANN VON FALLERSLEBEN is a llonng name |
| 17:04:46 | doughecka | wow |
| 17:04:46 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:04:56 | patlabor221 | how much? |
| 17:05:07 | BZFrank | well, they used to have such names some centuries ago ;) |
| 17:05:26 | BZFrank | 1000 Ueor for the barebone, CPU and 512 MB DDR333 memory |
| 17:05:34 | BZFrank | Uero = Euro |
| 17:05:45 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:05:55 | BZFrank | and 900 for the DVD-RW, Matrox and 120 GB hd |
| 17:06:05 | patlabor221 | not knowing the conversion I have to say... "ahhh" |
| 17:06:09 | doughecka | ooh |
| 17:06:21 | BZFrank | the Parhelia sells for 399 Euro here |
| 17:06:53 | doughecka | when are you going to put it together? |
| 17:07:00 | BZFrank | still more than the GF4400 but I'd like to have a card different from nVidia and ATI drivers sucks big time ;) |
| 17:07:04 | patlabor221 | $315 us here |
| 17:07:15 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:07:16 | BZFrank | 399 inkl VAT ;) |
| 17:07:29 | Widget | doughecka: No one knows that version anymore. |
| 17:07:33 | BZFrank | in Europe all prices are inclusive |
| 17:07:44 | BZFrank | doug: this weekend |
| 17:07:44 | patlabor221 | VAT? |
| 17:07:56 | BZFrank | Value Added Tax, 16% |
| 17:07:59 | patlabor221 | ouch |
| 17:08:00 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:08:10 | patlabor221 | we don't pay tax on stuff from other states |
| 17:08:14 | BZFrank | you may call it sales taxtes |
| 17:08:18 | doughecka | heh |
| 17:08:19 | patlabor221 | so I sould pay $315 |
| 17:08:28 | patlabor221 | pluss shiping |
| 17:08:47 | patlabor221 | I'm showing Ti4400's at about $190 |
| 17:08:51 | BZFrank | well, 399 isn't that bad either |
| 17:09:13 | BZFrank | the cheapest GF4 4400 are about 229 Euro here |
| 17:09:21 | Widget | What is a Parhelia? |
| 17:09:23 | patlabor221 | yeah I wouldn't mind geting one of the matrox cards |
| 17:09:27 | BZFrank | new gfx card from matrox |
| 17:09:30 | patlabor221 | it's matrox's new card |
| 17:09:34 | patlabor221 | it's very nice |
| 17:09:43 | Widget | How are the Linux drivers? |
| 17:09:44 | Widget | hihihi, captain_proton. |
| 17:09:48 | patlabor221 | hardware splacement maping |
| 17:09:49 | patlabor221 | sortof |
| 17:09:57 | BZFrank | Parhelia is actually a reflection of the sun in the athomsphere |
| 17:10:03 | BZFrank | hi captain |
| 17:10:14 | BZFrank | no linux drivers yep, but on the way |
| 17:10:15 | patlabor221 | simmone bato! |
| 17:10:37 | BZFrank | http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/parhelia512/home.cfm |
| 17:11:03 | BZFrank | the tripple screen feature is nice - this will go into p2501! |
| 17:11:05 | patlabor221 | ok cap here is the song for people who say anime music is crap |
| 17:11:06 | Widget | How good will the Linux drivers be? |
| 17:11:15 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/tank.mp3 |
| 17:11:21 | BZFrank | unknown to date - they say they will be good ;) |
| 17:11:37 | doughecka | oh? |
| 17:11:44 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:12:17 | Widget | BZFrank: Why do you want something different from nvidia? |
| 17:12:32 | patlabor221 | it's got some realy neat features |
| 17:12:38 | patlabor221 | that nv dosn't have yet |
| 17:12:50 | doughecka | like 3 monitors? |
| 17:13:02 | BZFrank | because I need to test p2501 on other cards ;) and the 10 bit color depth is really nice for my kind of job |
| 17:13:05 | patlabor221 | like hardware subdivvison surfaces and siplacement |
| 17:13:21 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:13:22 | patlabor221 | it realy is a realy good card |
| 17:13:28 | BZFrank | also the signal quality of the nvidia gf4 is quite bad |
| 17:13:42 | BZFrank | and tripple screens! ;)) ;)) |
| 17:13:56 | doughecka | DVI? |
| 17:14:01 | doughecka | get 3 DVI LCDS |
| 17:14:03 | BZFrank | 3 dvi |
| 17:14:03 | doughecka | ;) |
| 17:14:09 | doughecka | woo |
| 17:14:23 | doughecka | send me one |
| 17:14:25 | BZFrank | 3 x 23' costs.... well 3500 Euro x 3 = 10500 Euro |
| 17:14:26 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:14:46 | doughecka | woah |
| 17:14:48 | BZFrank | for three 23 inch TFT in sourround mode ;) |
| 17:15:01 | doughecka | k, one DVI and 2 VGA |
| 17:15:01 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:15:02 | BZFrank | well, I guess I have to wait a bit ;) |
| 17:15:03 | iLLf8d | hey all anyone know what the scoop is with c++ documentation? for most c functions I can man function, tho with c++ do I need to install a package to pickup those man pages? |
| 17:15:03 | doughecka | wow |
| 17:15:25 | Widget | 3500 EUR =.... |
| 17:15:29 | doughecka | BZFrank: gotta hate that |
| 17:15:32 | iLLf8d | for example I was looking for ofstream |
| 17:15:34 | Widget | 7377.13 NZD. |
| 17:16:03 | BZFrank | you can exclude 16% from that price if you ship to outside Europe |
| 17:16:09 | BZFrank | still a lot money |
| 17:16:20 | doughecka | lots |
| 17:16:26 | Widget | No kidding. |
| 17:16:29 | BZFrank | iLLf8d - no such man pages |
| 17:16:45 | doughecka | wants one |
| 17:17:10 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 17:17:11 | BZFrank | well, I have already 24' CRT and two 19' CRTs around, all SGIs |
| 17:17:19 | iLLf8d | is there an easy way to browse the infos then? |
| 17:17:21 | BZFrank | so I guess the analog output mustdo |
| 17:17:30 | iLLf8d | infos meaning perhaps a progie to look at the modules |
| 17:17:47 | doughecka | woah |
| 17:17:57 | doughecka | 24 inch? |
| 17:17:57 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 17:17:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | so action is done |
| 17:18:05 | doughecka | what res do you get with it? |
| 17:18:20 | BZFrank | 1600x1200 |
| 17:18:23 | BZFrank | it is 16:9 |
| 17:18:35 | BZFrank | so 1600:1024 is more reasonable |
| 17:18:38 | doughecka | heh |
| 17:18:38 | doughecka | WOW! |
| 17:18:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | oh 24" i need that to run logic! |
| 17:18:44 | doughecka | see the new apple powermac! |
| 17:18:47 | doughecka | http://www.apple.com/powermac/ |
| 17:19:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | and powermac i need too! |
| 17:19:01 | BZFrank | it is quite a monster screen, refurbished SGI |
| 17:19:11 | doughecka | yes yes! |
| 17:19:18 | doughecka | BZFrank: how much do those cast? |
| 17:19:25 | BZFrank | wasn'T so expensive either - paid 900 DU = 450 USD on eBay |
| 17:19:28 | BZFrank | DM |
| 17:19:30 | captain_proton | feels somewhat like a chipmunk |
| 17:19:39 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:19:42 | doughecka | cost |
| 17:20:05 | BZFrank | http://www.cplusplus.com/ref/iostream/ostream/ |
| 17:20:07 | [BZ]Ruudi | huh sun is gone... |
| 17:20:09 | doughecka | The dual 1.25GHz PowerPC G4 processors — with a combined performance of 18 billion floating point operations per second, or 18 gigaflops — put this fearsomely fast Power Mac G4 squarely in the lead as the ultimate high-end graphics workstation. The twin-engined 1.25GHz G4 runs professional applications like Adobe Photoshop up to 90 percent faster than a 2.53GHz Pentium 4-based PC. To harness all this power required the new system controll |
| 17:20:12 | mandy | hihihi |
| 17:20:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | but mandy is here :! |
| 17:20:22 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: funny eh |
| 17:20:24 | mandy | nyeah i'm here! |
| 17:20:30 | mandy | yeah*even |
| 17:20:39 | BZFrank | iLLf8d: got the URL? |
| 17:20:41 | [BZ]Ruudi | man that mac is my dream |
| 17:20:49 | doughecka | yes |
| 17:20:54 | doughecka | :)))) |
| 17:20:55 | mandy | =\ |
| 17:21:01 | mandy | hehe |
| 17:21:12 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:21:15 | doughecka | The dual 1GHz and 1.25GHz models come with SuperDrive, while the dual 867MHz offers the Combo DVD/CD-RW drive — and space for a second optical drive. |
| 17:21:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | my music program wount be done for win anymore :( |
| 17:21:20 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:21:28 | Widget | doughecka: Are you still researching anthems? |
| 17:21:42 | mandy | lol |
| 17:21:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | man that mac costs same as 2 room apartment! |
| 17:21:57 | mandy | wow ruudi |
| 17:22:00 | doughecka | As a build to order option you can go completely over the top with the NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti graphics card and its 128MB frame buffer of DDR SDRAM, which lets it perform 1.23 trillion operations per second. Each card comes with both ADC and DVI connectors for dual monitor support without an extra PCI card. |
| 17:22:24 | mandy | brb |
| 17:22:33 | doughecka | where do they fit both processors? |
| 17:22:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | eats watermelon |
| 17:22:49 | BZFrank | doug: here is a nice anthem page - also with some Mp3 - great to load in the car radio and drive around the city ;) http://www.funet.fi/pub/culture/russian/html_pages/soviet.html |
| 17:22:58 | mandy | mmm watermelon |
| 17:23:05 | doughecka | the stunning 23-inch (1920-by-1200-pixel resolution) Apple Cinema HD Display |
| 17:23:09 | doughecka | BZFrank: cool |
| 17:23:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | watermelon is too damn cheap right now :P |
| 17:23:18 | mandy | u p00head |
| 17:23:23 | Widget | Oh, I know the Soviet anthem. |
| 17:23:26 | mandy | uhg brb |
| 17:23:31 | doughecka | yes |
| 17:23:34 | Widget | "Soyuz nerushimiy respublik svobodnykh". |
| 17:23:40 | Widget | Also two other communist anthems. |
| 17:23:42 | doughecka | BZFrank: *sigh* |
| 17:23:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | i now the tune :) of soviet |
| 17:23:51 | Widget | "Auferstanden aus Ruinen und der zukunft zugewandt" |
| 17:23:52 | doughecka | BZFrank: got there before yah, hehe |
| 17:24:03 | iLLf8d | yeah thanks |
| 17:24:17 | Widget | "Lass uns dir zum guten dienen, Deutschland einig Vaterland!" |
| 17:24:19 | BZFrank | likes the choirs, like hunt for red october ;) |
| 17:24:28 | doughecka | BZFrank: I have that movie |
| 17:24:33 | BZFrank | me too |
| 17:24:36 | doughecka | in divx |
| 17:24:38 | doughecka | ;) |
| 17:24:39 | BZFrank | in DVD |
| 17:24:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | hunt for red october? hmm havn't seen |
| 17:24:44 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:24:52 | doughecka | very good movie |
| 17:24:52 | [BZ]Ruudi | some hollywood soviet pseudo? |
| 17:25:02 | doughecka | yah yah, the usual |
| 17:25:05 | doughecka | ;) |
| 17:25:26 | jzaun | Hello captain_proton |
| 17:25:32 | BZFrank | the movie is better than the book, clancy os often sooo "horray USA' (no pun intended but it gets on your nerves when you read it all the time... ;)) |
| 17:25:35 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 17:25:35 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 17:25:37 | bzbot | ServoTrooper (B): 0 (0-0). |
| 17:25:40 | doughecka | BZFrank: know where I can find those choirs of the russian anthom? |
| 17:25:51 | doughecka | BZFrank: hehe |
| 17:25:53 | BZFrank | doug: yep - wait a moment |
| 17:25:58 | patlabor221 | lun ch time |
| 17:26:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | some have read clockwork orange? |
| 17:26:05 | captain_proton | hi jzaun |
| 17:26:05 | doughecka | yum |
| 17:26:08 | BZFrank | yep |
| 17:26:09 | Widget | doughecka: ftp ftp.ibiblio.com |
| 17:26:14 | Widget | doughecka: Go to pub/multimedia |
| 17:26:18 | doughecka | k |
| 17:26:23 | Widget | doughecka: They have the Soviet anthem there. |
| 17:26:34 | Widget | doughecka: But the DDR anthem is better. :) |
| 17:26:36 | doughecka | k |
| 17:26:42 | doughecka | DDR? |
| 17:26:45 | jzaun | captain_proton: I've been trying to come up with a way to allow each world to use its own settings on jzaun-rotate... have any ideas on how to accomplish that? |
| 17:27:07 | Widget | doughecka: DDR ¿= Die Deutsche Demokratische Republik |
| 17:27:10 | doughecka | that would be nice |
| 17:27:18 | doughecka | some maps have 10 shot |
| 17:27:21 | doughecka | Widget: ah |
| 17:27:23 | BZFrank | here are some real good ones - http://www.skazka.no/anthems/ |
| 17:27:26 | doughecka | downloaded that too |
| 17:27:28 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:27:30 | jacques | BZFrank: !!!! |
| 17:27:35 | doughecka | thanks |
| 17:27:36 | captain_proton | jzaun: hmm, write a little program that reads a config for each world file? |
| 17:27:39 | BZFrank | hi jaques |
| 17:27:39 | jacques | BZFrank: I keep missing you |
| 17:27:41 | Widget | doughecka: La Marseillaise is also a very nice anthem. |
| 17:28:00 | jacques | BZFrank: I would like to help test p2501 if possible |
| 17:28:02 | captain_proton | jzaun: you could have a list of the command line options in world.conf, while the world itself was world.bzw |
| 17:28:02 | doughecka | k |
| 17:28:05 | captain_proton | then: |
| 17:28:10 | captain_proton | for file in `ls *.bzw` |
| 17:28:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | thinks that anthem should be some real nice tune not some easy to remember moelody :P |
| 17:28:22 | BZFrank | jacques - sure as soon as the next test release will be ready |
| 17:28:31 | doughecka | anthom for russia, or soviet unian? |
| 17:28:32 | BZFrank | I can send you the link also |
| 17:28:45 | Widget | doughecka: They have the same tune. |
| 17:28:50 | Widget | doughecka: Just different lyrics. |
| 17:28:51 | jzaun | captain_proton: That would work... I'm doing that now for the -public text world.bzw and world.msg could just add a world.cfg |
| 17:28:58 | captain_proton | do bzfs <blah> $(cat $(basename $file).conf) |
| 17:28:58 | doughecka | oh |
| 17:28:59 | BZFrank | get the 'Red Army Choir' version |
| 17:29:15 | doughecka | :) ok |
| 17:29:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | Red Army Choir is power! |
| 17:29:20 | Widget | doughecka: http://ogeechee.litphil.gasou.edu/GDR/song-words.html |
| 17:29:27 | Widget | doughecka: They have a link to an MP3 at the bottom. |
| 17:29:34 | doughecka | ok |
| 17:29:40 | mandy | bleh bleh bleh |
| 17:29:48 | BZFrank | oh, no not the DDR anthem ;) |
| 17:29:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | mandy get stoned or something :? |
| 17:30:02 | BZFrank | they have stolen it from 'good bye jonny' ya know ;) |
| 17:30:02 | mandy | ....maybe... |
| 17:30:10 | mandy | i'm gettin highhhhhh |
| 17:30:17 | mandy | ahahaha |
| 17:30:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | my friend came just from hemp fields :P |
| 17:30:22 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:30:48 | mandy | lolz |
| 17:30:52 | Widget | BZFrank: What does "Steigt ein frei Geschlecht empor." mean? (The anthem seems to be written in an archaic style) |
| 17:30:54 | doughecka | * in lefT! |
| 17:31:01 | jacques | BZFrank: cool, do you need an email address from me or anything? |
| 17:31:15 | doughecka | jacques: hmm |
| 17:31:33 | BZFrank | Widget: loosely translated: the people will rise to be free |
| 17:31:39 | BZFrank | and they did ;) |
| 17:32:05 | BZFrank | jacques: yep, send me an email to frank@wizards.de |
| 17:32:06 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:32:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | will blow his head with sooo good music |
| 17:32:35 | Widget | Let's see how ibot translates it. |
| 17:32:42 | BZFrank | rather archaic, but such old german stuff can be nice to talk |
| 17:32:44 | mandy | right ruudi |
| 17:32:51 | Widget | ibot: x de en Steigt ein frei Geschlecht empor. |
| 17:32:55 | | Widget: Freely a sex climbs. |
| 17:32:59 | BZFrank | LOL |
| 17:33:00 | mandy | brb again =\ |
| 17:33:04 | doughecka | HAHAHA |
| 17:33:23 | doughecka | who broke ibot? |
| 17:33:26 | doughecka | ;) |
| 17:33:40 | Widget | Does it really mean that, literally? |
| 17:33:40 | BZFrank | yeah - this anthem is all about free sex and hemp ;) |
| 17:34:00 | BZFrank | Geschlecht = sex OR line of heritage |
| 17:34:12 | BZFrank | loosely: people (volk) |
| 17:34:29 | BZFrank | and not clibs, more like rise |
| 17:34:34 | BZFrank | climbs |
| 17:34:54 | BZFrank | so in a very literal sense ibot is right ;) |
| 17:34:59 | jacques | BZFrank: ok, email sent |
| 17:35:07 | | Since Mon Aug 12 19:44:19 2002, there have been 70 modifications and 318 questions. I have been awake for 3 days, 22 hours, 50 minutes, 48 seconds this session, and currently reference 83997 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 17:35:07 | jacques | ibot: status |
| 17:35:09 | mandy | computers =\ |
| 17:35:16 | Widget | Ya, Steigen means "to rise", right? |
| 17:35:31 | Widget | So it means "A free people rise up"? |
| 17:35:50 | BZFrank | yes |
| 17:36:01 | mandy | bleh |
| 17:36:04 | doughecka | yuk, the compression is terrible.. |
| 17:36:09 | doughecka | mp3s = ugh |
| 17:36:21 | mandy | brb |
| 17:36:27 | BZFrank | got a Red Army Choir" CD - better quality |
| 17:36:42 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:36:45 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:37:03 | doughecka | andI have the movie = worse quality |
| 17:37:06 | Widget | Debout, les damnes de la terre! |
| 17:37:14 | Widget | Debouts les forçats de la faim! |
| 17:37:16 | mandy | okkk |
| 17:37:35 | doughecka | anyone seen K19 yet? |
| 17:37:40 | doughecka | another russian movie |
| 17:37:45 | Widget | La nation ont table rase! C'est l'eruption de la fin! |
| 17:37:56 | Widget | L'internationale. |
| 17:37:57 | BZFrank | only the trailer |
| 17:38:01 | Widget | Communisme. |
| 17:38:18 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:38:26 | doughecka | its pretty god |
| 17:38:58 | doughecka | good |
| 17:39:04 | BZFrank | widget: yep, good to get your little red porsche out and drive through the city showing the people your car hifi ;) |
| 17:39:39 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:39:49 | doughecka | you have a porche? |
| 17:39:50 | Widget | Yes, it wouldn't have the same effect with any other colour. |
| 17:40:15 | BZFrank | sort of - http://www.wizards.de/~frank/mycar.html |
| 17:40:27 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:40:42 | Widget | Do German Polizisten really drive Porsches? |
| 17:40:53 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:40:59 | BZFrank | no - they drive mercedes or Volkswagen ;) |
| 17:41:01 | jacques | wow nice |
| 17:41:09 | Widget | Wow.... |
| 17:41:14 | jacques | rear drums? |
| 17:41:42 | BZFrank | drums? you mean the brakes? |
| 17:42:14 | jacques | yep |
| 17:42:43 | BZFrank | yep, like the original |
| 17:43:24 | jacques | what's the weight? |
| 17:43:25 | BZFrank | no problem, this car only weights 400kg, so the brakes are oversized anyway |
| 17:43:33 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:43:33 | jacques | WOW |
| 17:43:47 | BZFrank | goes like a motor cycle ;) |
| 17:43:51 | jacques | and I thought an Elise was light |
| 17:43:52 | doughecka | what plays mpga files... |
| 17:44:35 | Widget | In New Zealand we used to have British and Australian cars (Austins, Holdens, etc.).... now all Japanese. |
| 17:44:41 | Widget | You can't get any other sort of car. |
| 17:44:43 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:44:59 | BZFrank | why? too expensive to ship them or? |
| 17:45:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm here they all ride with BMW and Audi And Merc... |
| 17:45:56 | Widget | Because they're more expensive and less reliable, and so no one sells them. |
| 17:46:01 | Widget | You can import them, of course. |
| 17:46:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | and sure lot of those toyotas and kias and stuff too |
| 17:46:34 | Widget | Oh, and Holden doesn't exist any more... the only Australian car company was bought by an American company. |
| 17:46:44 | BZFrank | some japanese cars can be seens here also, but most low/mid-end stuff |
| 17:47:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | interesting here pople buy lot of new german cars..dunne where from that money comes |
| 17:47:31 | BZFrank | anyone with some money gets a prosche, mercedes or an italian sportscar or jaguar |
| 17:47:50 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:47:51 | Widget | Everyone knows Japanese cars are superior! :) |
| 17:47:52 | bryjen | some japanese cars are BUILT here. |
| 17:47:57 | doughecka | or a ford |
| 17:48:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i think car is a car...if you must dirt your hands with oil then it's ok |
| 17:48:04 | Widget | Japanese cars are built in Australia too. |
| 17:48:14 | BZFrank | but these are too expensive to hold, the tax and insurance will eat you up |
| 17:48:40 | Widget | Oh, yes... we still have Minis too. |
| 17:48:43 | BZFrank | Ruudi - so I see it, also I like unconventional cars ;) |
| 17:48:46 | Widget | Yes, the Mini is very popular. |
| 17:48:59 | BZFrank | yes, here to - the new Mini can be seens often |
| 17:49:27 | [BZ]Ruudi | unconventional? what's that? |
| 17:49:39 | Widget | doughecka: I hear the Mini was recently released in the US as well? |
| 17:49:47 | doughecka | yes |
| 17:49:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | ahh that ugly yellow mini :P |
| 17:49:52 | doughecka | very cool looking |
| 17:49:57 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:50:06 | [BZ]Ruudi | wont fit into mini |
| 17:50:06 | doughecka | woo |
| 17:50:07 | BZFrank | well, the Porsche 550 kitcar is certainly not often seen ;) also my other car am Opel Calibra with Targa mod is unique |
| 17:50:10 | doughecka | mpga sounds better |
| 17:50:11 | Widget | doughecka: Get one. ;) |
| 17:50:24 | doughecka | WidgetL I have a chevy truck |
| 17:50:25 | captain_proton | returns with soup |
| 17:50:26 | Widget | Back in the 80s, the Mini was wildly popular in NZ. |
| 17:50:27 | doughecka | and a golfcart |
| 17:50:36 | doughecka | and a Mazda MPV |
| 17:50:38 | doughecka | . |
| 17:50:46 | Widget | Wow.... two cars!?! |
| 17:50:48 | BZFrank | the new mini is more a BMW than an English car |
| 17:50:53 | doughecka | Widget: you remmeber it? |
| 17:50:53 | Widget | Wait.. you can drive at 15 in the US? |
| 17:50:59 | jacques | yeah the mini is wildly popular here right now - the Cooper S has a 1 year wait I hear |
| 17:51:00 | doughecka | Widget: somestates |
| 17:51:09 | Widget | BZFrank: Shuttup! Rule, Britannia! |
| 17:51:10 | doughecka | I dont think so anymore though |
| 17:51:16 | BZFrank | LOL |
| 17:52:17 | jacques | i have a miata and a jeep wrangler |
| 17:52:51 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:52:57 | Widget | How expensive is petrol in Europe? |
| 17:53:00 | Widget | And the US? |
| 17:53:05 | doughecka | 1.33 here |
| 17:53:08 | doughecka | gallon |
| 17:53:22 | BZFrank | 1.08 Euro per Liter here in germany (Super, unleaded) |
| 17:53:27 | Widget | How many litres to the gallon? |
| 17:53:34 | BZFrank | 3.something |
| 17:53:40 | Widget | BZFrank: Wow... that's expensive. |
| 17:53:44 | doughecka | 1.33 is non super |
| 17:53:46 | BZFrank | tax |
| 17:53:46 | jacques | I pay 1.86 for premium, I guess regular is about 1.66 |
| 17:53:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | hm litre is here like 0.6 euros |
| 17:54:05 | Widget | About $1.20 per litre here. |
| 17:54:14 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:54:16 | Widget | Hm.. and cheap in the US. |
| 17:54:24 | doughecka | for leaded stuff |
| 17:54:26 | BZFrank | we pay about 70% taxes for petrol |
| 17:54:27 | doughecka | or what ever |
| 17:54:30 | doughecka | woah |
| 17:54:59 | captain_proton | Widget: everything is cheap in the US |
| 17:55:08 | BZFrank | should get money in the states pockets and help to force people buy cars with less consumption |
| 17:55:09 | Widget | captain_proton: Not Kiwis! |
| 17:55:10 | doughecka | exept computers on the east coust |
| 17:55:16 | doughecka | and kiwis |
| 17:55:24 | bryjen | because we consume in massive quantity |
| 17:55:24 | BZFrank | or computers in New Mexico |
| 17:55:28 | BZFrank | and bananas |
| 17:55:34 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:55:40 | doughecka | and moon dust |
| 17:55:52 | jacques | and rent in silicon valley |
| 17:55:53 | BZFrank | well.. ;) |
| 17:56:03 | BZFrank | and a sandwich at subways ;) |
| 17:56:06 | corndawg | hi all |
| 17:56:12 | captain_proton | eww @ subway |
| 17:56:14 | BZFrank | hi |
| 17:56:20 | doughecka | subways rules! |
| 17:56:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | haven't been in a subway :P |
| 17:56:36 | Widget | Well, 70% isn't that much.... they are going to increase our petrol tax to $1 a litre perhaps. |
| 17:56:40 | BZFrank | better than MacD or Burgerqueen ;) |
| 17:56:46 | doughecka | yes |
| 17:56:46 | captain_proton | not when i can get a real deli sandwich for just about a dollar more |
| 17:56:49 | doughecka | very |
| 17:57:02 | Widget | I shall have to use the tube a lot in London. |
| 17:57:04 | doughecka | captain_proton: this is kentucky |
| 17:57:10 | doughecka | Widget: cool |
| 17:57:17 | BZFrank | london is nice |
| 17:57:24 | Widget | It's not as convenient as the Paris metro. :( |
| 17:57:25 | captain_proton | doughecka: right |
| 17:57:26 | BZFrank | great city to shop |
| 17:57:30 | doughecka | The Tube |
| 17:57:46 | doughecka | captain_proton: subway IS the deli |
| 17:57:56 | captain_proton | paris metro is great, tokyo underground is even better |
| 17:57:57 | BZFrank | in kentucky... |
| 17:58:06 | corndawg | anyone arround that knows how to set up a bzflag server? |
| 17:58:13 | Widget | captain_proton: The Paris metro has improved a _lot_ recently. |
| 17:58:16 | captain_proton | corndawg: ask away |
| 17:58:21 | corndawg | cool |
| 17:58:21 | Widget | captain_proton: Trains every three minutes. |
| 17:58:28 | doughecka | ask captain_proton: hes the genius |
| 17:58:31 | BZFrank | well, I still prefer to drive a car at least from here to swizerland, empty autobahn and NO speedlimit ;) |
| 17:58:34 | corndawg | ive got the server installed... but cant connect for nothin |
| 17:58:35 | captain_proton | Widget: hmm, sounds like tokyo ;) |
| 17:58:40 | doughecka | BZFrank: yea! |
| 17:58:42 | Widget | captain_proton: And all the route planning is computerised. |
| 17:58:51 | Widget | BZFrank: What is the normal speedlimit in Europe? |
| 17:58:55 | doughecka | BZFrank: I would like to go on eit some time... |
| 17:58:55 | corndawg | ive also checked all the manual pages online and offline and still cant find my prob |
| 17:58:57 | BZFrank | depends |
| 17:58:58 | corndawg | any idears? |
| 17:59:04 | BZFrank | 100-130 km/h |
| 17:59:05 | captain_proton | corndawg: what port(s) are you using? |
| 17:59:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | normal speedlimit 90km/h |
| 17:59:08 | jacques | i cant remember the last time I saw an empty freeway |
| 17:59:10 | corndawg | 5100 |
| 17:59:12 | captain_proton | actually |
| 17:59:13 | captain_proton | first: |
| 17:59:16 | captain_proton | what version of the server? |
| 17:59:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | nhmm we live slow :P |
| 17:59:20 | Widget | On all roads!?!? |
| 17:59:21 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:59:23 | Widget | Or just highways? |
| 17:59:23 | corndawg | newest version |
| 17:59:30 | BZFrank | in germany - none ;) |
| 17:59:31 | doughecka | all roads |
| 17:59:35 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:59:47 | Widget | No speed limit at all in Germany? |
| 17:59:49 | Widget | Eep... |
| 17:59:55 | Widget | Even in cities? |
| 18:00:00 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:00:00 | BZFrank | still my opel tops out a 235 km/h need a better motor I guess |
| 18:00:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | just press it! |
| 18:00:12 | doughecka | bah |
| 18:00:15 | captain_proton | cities are too conjested to drive fast |
| 18:00:16 | doughecka | only goes* |
| 18:00:17 | BZFrank | in cities 50 km/h |
| 18:00:34 | doughecka | rebooting |
| 18:00:40 | BZFrank | normal roads 100 km/h, autobahn - free ride |
| 18:00:48 | doughecka | fast ride |
| 18:00:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm can neverwinter nights run in window? |
| 18:00:56 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: dont care |
| 18:00:58 | doughecka | ;) |
| 18:01:02 | BZFrank | still some are often congested... |
| 18:01:02 | Widget | Hm... in NZ 50 on normal roads, 100 on highways. |
| 18:01:11 | jacques | what???? is the NWM linux client out??? |
| 18:01:11 | Widget | Nearly the same in England, I think. |
| 18:01:14 | jacques | NWN |
| 18:01:16 | BZFrank | yep |
| 18:01:17 | doughecka | we have 65 max on freeways |
| 18:01:19 | Widget | It is!?!?!? |
| 18:01:24 | jacques | ??????????????????????? |
| 18:01:25 | doughecka | I think |
| 18:01:29 | BZFrank | mines/h |
| 18:01:29 | corndawg | oh captain_proton.. iv also got my router setup for the server... should work with no probs |
| 18:01:29 | doughecka | right? |
| 18:01:31 | BZFrank | miles |
| 18:01:34 | Widget | doughecka: That's mph? |
| 18:01:35 | doughecka | MPH |
| 18:01:36 | [BZ]Ruudi | whola there is linux nwn? |
| 18:01:37 | BZFrank | we are talking km/h ;) |
| 18:01:37 | doughecka | yes |
| 18:01:47 | Widget | 2.2 km = 1 mi |
| 18:01:49 | doughecka | yah yah, MPH in us |
| 18:01:58 | BZFrank | 65 = 108 km/h or so |
| 18:02:02 | doughecka | you should drive in greece |
| 18:02:02 | Widget | I know! When we visited canada from the US... |
| 18:02:04 | bryjen | most states have gone to 70+ mph on limited access highways. KY stuck with 65 |
| 18:02:04 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:02:08 | doughecka | thats fun! |
| 18:02:15 | doughecka | yes :( |
| 18:02:17 | Widget | There were signs that told people how to convert from American to metric. |
| 18:02:19 | corndawg | bryjen... ltns.. lol ya was kickin my rear last night |
| 18:02:21 | Widget | But no signs the other way round! |
| 18:02:25 | corndawg | <--- bandit |
| 18:02:34 | Widget | Do Americans think all Canadians will be able to figure out American? |
| 18:02:57 | doughecka | americans are smarter! they dont NEED signs |
| 18:03:00 | doughecka | :P |
| 18:03:07 | BZFrank | hear hear :) |
| 18:03:12 | captain_proton | corndawg: well, lets go step by step - first, what version? |
| 18:03:27 | BZFrank | germany do neither - they drive too fast to read them anyway :) |
| 18:03:30 | Widget | My sun clock tells me that it is night time in all of Europe... except in the UK and the Iberian penninsula. |
| 18:03:32 | corndawg | cap.. bzflag-1.7e6 |
| 18:03:40 | jacques | 75mph in NM and AZ |
| 18:03:45 | doughecka | woo |
| 18:03:48 | doughecka | yes |
| 18:03:55 | doughecka | cuz its falt and strait |
| 18:03:59 | Widget | And the US is in the middle of the patch of sun. |
| 18:04:01 | doughecka | flat^ |
| 18:04:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | midnight comes on slowly |
| 18:04:06 | doughecka | its 3:00 |
| 18:04:08 | Widget | BZFrank: But does Germany have many mountains? |
| 18:04:13 | BZFrank | 21:00 here |
| 18:04:15 | doughecka | Widget: umm |
| 18:04:18 | BZFrank | in the south yes |
| 18:04:22 | captain_proton | corndawg: ok, and what command line are you giving it? |
| 18:04:29 | Widget | BZFrank: And still no speed limit? |
| 18:04:49 | BZFrank | great fun driving up the hills I can tell you! ;) |
| 18:04:56 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:05:07 | doughecka | in greece, there IS no right of way |
| 18:05:17 | Widget | NZ is all mountains. |
| 18:05:21 | doughecka | you drive in the emergency lane, and pass in the main lane |
| 18:05:21 | Widget | And it snows in South Island. |
| 18:05:29 | Widget | So that's why the speed limit isn't so high. |
| 18:05:41 | BZFrank | no, the highway 81 through the black forrest to the south is quite steep at some place but no limit whatever |
| 18:05:50 | doughecka | going down? |
| 18:05:52 | Widget | But does it snow'? |
| 18:05:52 | doughecka | ;) |
| 18:05:53 | corndawg | cap bzfs -p 5156 -j -a -b -t +r -h -r -mp 8 -ms 4 -public -publicaddr 24.131.245.105:5156 +s 50 -sa -st 15 -sw 1 -passwd blah -lagwarn 500 -requireudp |
| 18:06:06 | BZFrank | not so often - germany is wet but not cold |
| 18:06:22 | Widget | See? That's why! |
| 18:06:25 | BZFrank | last winter we got only 2 weeks with snow around here |
| 18:06:29 | doughecka | hehe |
| 18:06:31 | doughecka | same in ekntucky |
| 18:06:38 | captain_proton | corndawg: ok, you need -pr 5157, and you need to open up that port on the router/firewall |
| 18:06:49 | corndawg | ah |
| 18:06:56 | corndawg | that should do it then eh? |
| 18:07:01 | mandy | lalallalallaa |
| 18:07:05 | BZFrank | my dad told me that in 1940 winters did go on from october to march. but now the climate is much warmer and wetter |
| 18:07:07 | captain_proton | you'll also need udp port 5156 open |
| 18:07:11 | corndawg | i wouldnt need the bzflagrelay would i? |
| 18:07:16 | bryjen | captain_proton: isnt that just for older clients? does e6 client need it ? |
| 18:07:27 | jacques | looks like bioware is still saying november for linux client |
| 18:07:29 | captain_proton | bryjen: yes, all 1.7 stuff uses the reconnect |
| 18:07:30 | doughecka | installs the Army soldier game while listening to the russian Red Army |
| 18:07:41 | BZFrank | gets his pudding! |
| 18:07:45 | doughecka | yum |
| 18:07:48 | doughecka | I am hungry |
| 18:07:51 | doughecka | and its 3 |
| 18:07:54 | BZFrank | cya all, time for some sweets! |
| 18:07:54 | doughecka | no lunch |
| 18:07:57 | doughecka | cya |
| 18:07:58 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:08:03 | doughecka | drive fast! |
| 18:08:25 | BZFrank | die glorious (well, maybe drive fast will be enough... ;)) |
| 18:08:30 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:08:34 | doughecka | ;) |
| 18:08:58 | mandy | u guys type fast =\ |
| 18:09:03 | doughecka | y |
| 18:09:03 | doughecka | e |
| 18:09:04 | corndawg | k brb tryin |
| 18:09:04 | doughecka | s |
| 18:09:05 | doughecka | w |
| 18:09:06 | doughecka | e |
| 18:09:07 | doughecka | d |
| 18:09:07 | doughecka | o |
| 18:09:15 | captain_proton | doughecka: stop that now |
| 18:09:19 | doughecka | o |
| 18:09:20 | doughecka | k |
| 18:09:42 | doughecka | grins at captain_proton |
| 18:18:26 | corndawg | hum... nope |
| 18:18:29 | corndawg | connection failed |
| 18:18:46 | patlabor221 | doug never learns does he |
| 18:19:19 | doughecka | what? |
| 18:20:05 | doughecka | ??? |
| 18:21:57 | captain_proton | needs to leave to interview for the job he was supposed to have 3 months ago |
| 18:22:02 | captain_proton | bye fellas |
| 18:22:11 | doughecka | hehe |
| 18:22:12 | doughecka | cya |
| 18:22:44 | patlabor221 | gimmem code cap |
| 18:22:49 | patlabor221 | cooooooddddddddeeeeeeeee :) |
| 18:23:04 | corndawg | oh well ill mess with it later |
| 18:23:06 | doughecka | now he threating ya |
| 18:23:12 | corndawg | bryjen: you playin bzflag atm? |
| 18:23:37 | patlabor221 | and good luck on the interview |
| 18:27:34 | bryjen | no. i'm at work. |
| 18:27:52 | doughecka | I suppose a game with the minimum system req. at 900 mhz wont work on a 333 mhz... |
| 18:28:33 | bryjen | it would work. just dont say it would /run/ |
| 18:28:43 | doughecka | haha |
| 18:28:54 | doughecka | it owuld work slowly |
| 18:40:50 | Cell_prog_insect | hm, coldet reports the triangles and the point of intersection if two meshes collide, but if they collide what do u do then, do u go one frame back and try if collision would also be reported at frame/2 forward in time, go back again if so, and try to go frame/4 forward, i wonder how BZFrank solves this mess cause as he says he is using coldet |
| 18:42:33 | Cell_prog_insect | i wonder if BZfrank's game has lot of collision errors, and if not it must be really rough i guess |
| 18:43:12 | Cell_prog_insect | but maybe im wrong,never had the honor to test it |
| 18:44:53 | doughecka | haha |
| 18:45:05 | doughecka | never shoot your drill sargent |
| 18:45:11 | doughecka | you get put in jail |
| 18:45:12 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:46:19 | Cell_prog_insect | dont understand u |
| 18:55:48 | doughecka | : |
| 18:55:59 | Patlabor221 | | |
| 18:56:13 | doughecka | _ |
| 18:56:43 | Patlabor221 | I see so that's whow you feel |
| 18:56:52 | doughecka | :/ |
| 18:57:11 | Patlabor221 | I allways thought of you as being straigt but ok, what ever floats your boat |
| 18:57:22 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:59:37 | Patlabor221 | the german salor moon theme song rocks |
| 19:00:00 | Cell_prog_insect | salor moon??? |
| 19:00:02 | Patlabor221 | I have no clue what they are saying tho |
| 19:00:22 | Patlabor221 | yup gheyeset anime in the world |
| 19:00:52 | Patlabor221 | buy they they put a good beat on this song |
| 19:01:05 | Cell_prog_insect | what song? |
| 19:01:14 | Patlabor221 | the salor moon theme song |
| 19:01:19 | captain_proton | i thought gravitation was the gayest anime in the world |
| 19:01:29 | captain_proton | =} |
| 19:01:38 | Cell_prog_insect | can i get it somewhere |
| 19:01:43 | Widget | No, it's "Oh, my goddess" |
| 19:01:48 | Patlabor221 | I have it |
| 19:01:54 | Cell_prog_insect | i have the zsnes sailor moon rom |
| 19:01:59 | Cell_prog_insect | rpg game |
| 19:02:01 | Widget | Patlabor221: Where is the German sailor moon theme? |
| 19:02:20 | Patlabor221 | one sec |
| 19:02:23 | Patlabor221 | I will upload |
| 19:02:29 | Cell_prog_insect | :) |
| 19:02:45 | Widget | On what server is artemisgames.com hosted? |
| 19:03:59 | Patlabor221 | web server type? |
| 19:04:03 | Patlabor221 | I think it's IIS |
| 19:05:18 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/Sailor_Moon(German_Techno_Remix).mp3 |
| 19:05:21 | Widget | No, no.... where is it? |
| 19:05:23 | Widget | Do you rent it? |
| 19:05:34 | Patlabor221 | crap one seco n the upload |
| 19:05:46 | Patlabor221 | I pay yearly for webspace |
| 19:05:49 | Patlabor221 | I dono where it is |
| 19:05:55 | Widget | To whom? |
| 19:06:05 | Cell_prog_insect | does not work :( |
| 19:06:10 | Patlabor221 | I know one sec |
| 19:06:12 | captain_proton | wonderful |
| 19:06:14 | captain_proton | i can't get to my interview |
| 19:06:19 | Patlabor221 | a company called readyhopsting |
| 19:06:23 | Widget | captain_proton: Why not? |
| 19:06:26 | Widget | captain_proton: Job interview? |
| 19:06:29 | captain_proton | Widget: yes |
| 19:06:36 | Widget | captain_proton: Uh oh... |
| 19:06:39 | Widget | captain_proton: When is it? |
| 19:06:53 | captain_proton | because i can't drive (pain meds for -my- wisdom teeth), and my dad can't drive me there because my sister just had hers out and she's having lots of trouble |
| 19:07:02 | Patlabor221 | taxi |
| 19:07:10 | Widget | Yes, call a cab. |
| 19:07:48 | Patlabor221 | ok now |
| 19:07:48 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/Sailor_Moon(German_Techno_Remix).mp3 |
| 19:07:55 | Widget | Yep, already downloading. ;) |
| 19:08:02 | Widget | captain_proton: Hm... going to an interview on pain medication? |
| 19:08:08 | Chestal | activates his new stochastic spamfilter |
| 19:08:13 | Chestal | http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html |
| 19:08:16 | Widget | Stochastic? |
| 19:08:38 | Chestal | someone gave me that URL today, so I implemented a prototype, let's see how it perfoms |
| 19:08:52 | Widget | Oooh. |
| 19:08:53 | Chestal | a-z: hast du an den Parametern was gedreht? bei eingien weiss ich nicht sorecht |
| 19:08:55 | Chestal | oops |
| 19:09:02 | Patlabor221 | widget, I don't know where my server is |
| 19:09:25 | Cell_prog_insect | das kenne ich |
| 19:09:31 | Cell_prog_insect | von rtl2 |
| 19:09:46 | Cell_prog_insect | aber nicht die techon version |
| 19:09:49 | captain_proton | Widget: it only affects my response time |
| 19:09:52 | Cell_prog_insect | techno |
| 19:09:57 | captain_proton | so i'm 'strongly discouraged' from driving |
| 19:09:58 | Widget | Was bedeutet "eingien"? |
| 19:10:11 | Widget | captain_proton: Call a cab. |
| 19:10:24 | Patlabor221 | yeah how far is it, or take the buss |
| 19:10:29 | Widget | captain_proton: Yes, how far? |
| 19:10:39 | captain_proton | 15 minute drive |
| 19:10:46 | Patlabor221 | taxi |
| 19:10:47 | captain_proton | no busses take me from here to there |
| 19:10:53 | Patlabor221 | $6 |
| 19:11:03 | captain_proton | its at the point where i'd already be late, so i'll just reschedule |
| 19:11:07 | captain_proton | i've got a better excuse than most |
| 19:11:12 | Patlabor221 | this is true |
| 19:11:13 | Cell_prog_insect | go afoot |
| 19:11:17 | Cell_prog_insect | as i do it |
| 19:11:30 | Patlabor221 | ok one more thing to try: do you own a horse? |
| 19:11:35 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: 'fraid not |
| 19:11:35 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:11:47 | Patlabor221 | ok then you are screwed |
| 19:11:47 | doughecka | segway? |
| 19:11:48 | Cell_prog_insect | fast walking |
| 19:11:55 | Widget | Hahaha, this German remix is so funny. |
| 19:12:01 | Widget | "Sag das zauberwort und du hast die macht" |
| 19:12:01 | Patlabor221 | seeee |
| 19:12:04 | captain_proton | Cell_prog_insect: too far to go in too short a time |
| 19:12:11 | doughecka | run |
| 19:12:12 | Widget | "halt den mondstein fest und spuer die kraft" |
| 19:12:14 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 19:12:18 | Patlabor221 | I have no clue what they are saying |
| 19:12:31 | Widget | Hm... look for the lyrics. |
| 19:12:40 | captain_proton | doughecka: can't exercise (cannot raise my blood pressure) |
| 19:12:48 | Cell_prog_insect | hold the moonstone and feel its power... |
| 19:12:53 | Chestal | now I need mails + spam to test it |
| 19:12:54 | Widget | Patlabor221: Here, found something: http://www.lyricmoon.org/lyrics/german.html |
| 19:12:59 | Patlabor221 | yeah otherwise his jaw willsxplde |
| 19:13:02 | Widget | Chestal: Sure. ;) |
| 19:13:32 | Chestal | my simple rules already caught about 70% of spam |
| 19:13:32 | Cell_prog_insect | shit i hate stochastic |
| 19:13:38 | Chestal | I hope I will now catch >95% |
| 19:13:50 | Widget | "Du kannst es tun, Sailor Moon!" ;) |
| 19:13:59 | Chestal | without a false positive maybe once a month |
| 19:13:59 | Cell_prog_insect | ja genau |
| 19:14:02 | Widget | Mondstein flieg und sieg! Es ist soweit! |
| 19:14:08 | Cell_prog_insect | haha |
| 19:14:09 | Widget | is laughing so hard. |
| 19:14:26 | Patlabor221 | bets widget has a salor moon costume :) |
| 19:14:30 | Chestal | grmpf, I wasted all day implementing this |
| 19:14:48 | Chestal | when I had just finished the first version and was about to test it, I accidentaly deleted everything |
| 19:14:59 | Widget | Deleted what? |
| 19:15:02 | Widget | Your spam program? |
| 19:15:10 | Chestal | everythign I had coded untilthen |
| 19:15:17 | Widget | Today? |
| 19:15:19 | Chestal | so I had to restart from scratch, but 2nd time it's easier :-) |
| 19:15:23 | Widget | Ah. |
| 19:15:37 | Widget | Chestal: What's your email address? I can forward spam. ;) |
| 19:15:49 | Cell_prog_insect | that would not happen on windows, dont use rm |
| 19:16:13 | Widget | Windows has rm too. |
| 19:16:16 | Chestal | I had foo.cc and wanted torename it to bar.cc |
| 19:16:23 | Chestal | and then remove foo* (temporary files, executable) |
| 19:16:33 | Chestal | but I reconsidered and thogh foobar.cc would be a better name, so... |
| 19:17:05 | captain_proton | ouch |
| 19:17:06 | Cell_prog_insect | bu its not deletet from ure hard disk, just try to recover it |
| 19:17:12 | Cell_prog_insect | i quess |
| 19:17:13 | Chestal | Widget: my address is inthe server list :-) thilo@unix-ag.org, but it needs to be tested with real world mails I guess |
| 19:17:18 | Chestal | I'll just observe it |
| 19:17:40 | Widget | I have some spam I can forward. |
| 19:17:57 | Cell_prog_insect | i have the love letter virus, cell version |
| 19:17:59 | Chestal | no, don't |
| 19:17:59 | Widget | Does "halt" mean "hold" or "stop"? |
| 19:18:03 | Chestal | it will also look at the headers |
| 19:18:06 | Widget | Oh. |
| 19:18:13 | Chestal | it might learn that only spam comes from your address :-) |
| 19:20:21 | Widget | Hm... you could use your program. |
| 19:20:26 | Widget | Or, as the article suggestes.... |
| 19:20:35 | Widget | You could hire someone to read your email and discard spam. |
| 19:20:44 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: explain me this: |
| 19:20:56 | captain_proton | #0 0x40279d12 in __strtod_internal () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 19:20:56 | captain_proton | #1 0x4010a1c1 in closestFit () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 |
| 19:20:56 | captain_proton | #2 0x4010c412 in gluBuild2DMipmaps () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 |
| 19:20:56 | captain_proton | #3 0x08057e8d in CTextureManager::LoadTGA(char const*, trTextureInfo*, bool) () |
| 19:20:56 | captain_proton | #4 0x08057390 in CTextureManager::LoadFile(trTextureInfo&) () |
| 19:20:58 | Cell_prog_insect | hm, i serach the web for a 3d modell of myself, maybe i find one would make me happy |
| 19:20:59 | captain_proton | #5 0x08054bbc in CTextureManager::GetID(char*) () |
| 19:21:02 | captain_proton | #6 0x0804b28d in onInitGame() () at main.cpp:35 |
| 19:21:03 | captain_proton | #7 0x0804b04a in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffffcb4) at gameloop.cpp:20 |
| 19:21:05 | captain_proton | #8 0x4025e571 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 19:21:06 | captain_proton | segfault |
| 19:21:18 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: Of Cell, the character, or of you yourself? |
| 19:21:50 | Cell_prog_insect | the charecter of coz, i think noone has made a modell of myself :) |
| 19:22:34 | Patlabor221 | cap what is all that form? |
| 19:22:54 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: backtrace of the segfault when i try to run jetstream, after compiling w/ gcc 3.2 |
| 19:23:06 | mandy | hihihi |
| 19:23:18 | Widget | hihihi |
| 19:23:28 | mandy | :P |
| 19:23:30 | Patlabor221 | it dies INSIDE the mip??!?!?! |
| 19:23:44 | captain_proton | yep |
| 19:24:06 | Patlabor221 | sounds like your GL and system are using difrent std libs |
| 19:24:08 | captain_proton | hmm, perhaps if i rebuild nvidia_GLX |
| 19:24:18 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 19:24:25 | Patlabor221 | if lin is so pickey about that |
| 19:24:28 | Patlabor221 | it may |
| 19:25:00 | captain_proton | hmm, dies just the same |
| 19:25:32 | Patlabor221 | man that is wierd |
| 19:25:40 | captain_proton | lemme rebuild binutils |
| 19:27:53 | Widget | http://www.harvard-magazine.com/archive/00ja/ja00.conan.html |
| 19:28:55 | Patlabor221 | ohh just reimplement bitstream |
| 19:29:04 | Patlabor221 | shound't take more the 15 min :) |
| 19:29:39 | Cell_prog_insect | i hate harvard |
| 19:29:43 | Patlabor221 | wow this sound lib stucks |
| 19:30:36 | Patlabor221 | like verily with a crand sucking |
| 19:30:44 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: Why? |
| 19:31:22 | Cell_prog_insect | because they cakk theirselfs elite, dont like that |
| 19:31:22 | captain_proton | there we go, interview rescheduled for monday |
| 19:31:31 | Patlabor221 | very good |
| 19:31:37 | Patlabor221 | what kinda company? |
| 19:31:39 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: Well, they do have very strict criteria for admission. |
| 19:32:16 | Cell_prog_insect | i dont care, i dont like it anyway |
| 19:32:55 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: group on campus, does sys/network admin & tool development for all the computer science labs & research |
| 19:33:27 | Patlabor221 | ahhh very cool |
| 19:33:36 | Patlabor221 | they should get you right in there |
| 19:33:46 | captain_proton | was supposed to work for them over the summer but they ran into funding troubles |
| 19:34:00 | Cell_prog_insect | shit i did not find any modell of cell in 3d, i quess i must construct it by nyself |
| 19:34:20 | Patlabor221 | cell check the bid for power mode |
| 19:34:22 | Patlabor221 | mod |
| 19:34:41 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 19:34:51 | Patlabor221 | quake 3 mode called bid for power |
| 19:34:56 | Patlabor221 | all DBZ crap |
| 19:35:13 | Patlabor221 | and let me check |
| 19:35:22 | Patlabor221 | I htink I know of a couple q3 models |
| 19:35:28 | Cell_prog_insect | really, cell breaths very fast, where can i get it plz???? |
| 19:35:29 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 19:35:38 | Patlabor221 | search |
| 19:35:50 | Patlabor221 | check planet quake |
| 19:35:53 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 19:36:21 | captain_proton | waits patiently for binutils to compile |
| 19:37:31 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: Odd that you should say you didn't like Harvard. ;) Here's a quote from that speech. |
| 19:37:34 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: What else can you expect in the real world? Let me tell you. As you leave these gates and re-enter society, one thing is certain. Everyone out there is going to hate you. Never tell anyone in a roadside diner that you went to Harvard. In those situations, the correct response to, "Where did you go to school?" is "School? I never had much in the way of book learnin' and such." And then get in your BMW and get the hell out of the |
| 19:37:34 | Widget | re. Go. |
| 19:37:38 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I'm not seeing cell, just ohther characters |
| 19:39:25 | Patlabor221 | nope no cells I know some were being made, but they do not seem to be released |
| 19:41:48 | Cell_prog_insect | tell me url pls, there is no search button/field on that site |
| 19:42:08 | Patlabor221 | www.polycount.com |
| 19:42:17 | Patlabor221 | check the model databased |
| 19:42:21 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 19:42:27 | Patlabor221 | for Q3 and Q2 |
| 19:42:37 | Patlabor221 | but there are no Cell models there |
| 19:42:43 | Cell_prog_insect | widget are u at harvard |
| 19:42:46 | Patlabor221 | other DBZ but no cell |
| 19:42:52 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: Nope. |
| 19:42:53 | Cell_prog_insect | shit, no cell |
| 19:42:59 | Patlabor221 | that's what I said |
| 19:43:06 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: I start university at LSE in two months, though. |
| 19:44:11 | Cell_prog_insect | k, but i mean, i dont know why the harvard ppl get payed that much as i dont know why some managers ge tpaid that much |
| 19:44:19 | Patlabor221 | http://www.planetquake.com/bidforpower/ |
| 19:44:27 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: The Harvard name. |
| 19:44:43 | Cell_prog_insect | oh thanks pat |
| 19:44:48 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: So you can say "I went to Harvard"... in that Harvard accent. |
| 19:45:30 | Patlabor221 | but they won't have a cell, they almost got suied by funmation |
| 19:45:40 | Cell_prog_insect | oh |
| 19:45:52 | jzaun | Is there anyway to send 2 entrace messages? |
| 19:46:44 | captain_proton | ok, this is bizzare |
| 19:46:48 | captain_proton | pong runs fine |
| 19:46:59 | Cell_prog_insect | i think in 30 -50 yers nobody needs to work anymore of course he could do if he/she likes |
| 19:47:59 | Patlabor221 | ahh the slacker vision of the future |
| 19:48:30 | Cell_prog_insect | no just robots could do all the things |
| 19:49:13 | Patlabor221 | yeah then people turnin to slackers |
| 19:49:18 | Patlabor221 | no motivation |
| 19:49:58 | Cell_prog_insect | no they do sports, play tennis, learn, and have fun |
| 19:50:11 | Patlabor221 | but they won't |
| 19:50:17 | Cell_prog_insect | why? |
| 19:50:24 | Patlabor221 | humans are lazy |
| 19:50:39 | Widget | Besides, why would people learn? |
| 19:50:49 | jzaun | so true... we are lazy overall :-) |
| 19:50:49 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:50:56 | captain_proton | and who designs the robots? |
| 19:51:01 | Widget | And what about the people who maintained the robots? |
| 19:51:07 | Patlabor221 | and builds them |
| 19:51:07 | Widget | What if they crashed? |
| 19:51:10 | Patlabor221 | and fixes them |
| 19:51:11 | Cell_prog_insect | the robots design each other |
| 19:51:24 | Cell_prog_insect | they fix each other |
| 19:51:24 | Patlabor221 | then what do they need us for? |
| 19:51:34 | captain_proton | ices his face |
| 19:51:45 | jzaun | Patlabor221: slaves? |
| 19:51:58 | Cell_prog_insect | i dont know :) |
| 19:51:58 | Widget | Why should the robots need humans? |
| 19:51:59 | Patlabor221 | grease |
| 19:52:00 | jzaun | Patlabor221: Entertainment |
| 19:52:05 | Widget | My computer doesn't need me. |
| 19:52:10 | jzaun | oohh.... Bateries :-) |
| 19:52:14 | Cell_prog_insect | haha |
| 19:52:17 | captain_proton | hmmm... |
| 19:52:23 | Widget | It will be like in the Matrix. |
| 19:52:27 | captain_proton | advil or percodan? |
| 19:52:35 | Patlabor221 | perc |
| 19:52:36 | Widget | captain_proton: Both. |
| 19:52:38 | corndawg | hum... bzflag needs to quit dropin ya in someones line of fire |
| 19:52:39 | jzaun | who knows... we could be int eh "Matrix" right now |
| 19:52:41 | Patlabor221 | allways the perc |
| 19:52:46 | Patlabor221 | and jolt cola |
| 19:53:02 | Widget | jzaun: But in the Matrix the year is 1997. |
| 19:53:06 | Widget | jzaun: And it's 2002. |
| 19:53:09 | Cell_prog_insect | the situation in the matrix is not bad |
| 19:53:15 | Widget | I know. |
| 19:53:18 | Cell_prog_insect | because u think u are fien |
| 19:53:21 | Widget | There was nothing wrong with it. |
| 19:53:24 | jzaun | Widget: So we've been in it for a few years now... |
| 19:53:24 | Patlabor221 | and using people for power is stupid |
| 19:53:36 | Patlabor221 | we use more food then we make in juice |
| 19:53:41 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, they have no power |
| 19:54:05 | Cell_prog_insect | that could be used for energy or something |
| 19:54:17 | Patlabor221 | we do, just not much |
| 19:54:20 | Patlabor221 | we have heat |
| 19:54:22 | Patlabor221 | and electricity |
| 19:54:26 | Patlabor221 | but we use it |
| 19:54:27 | Widget | jzaun: But in the Matrix, time is fixed at 1997... it said they made the Matrix "at the golden age of human civilisation". |
| 19:54:45 | Patlabor221 | and this was 97? |
| 19:54:59 | Cell_prog_insect | then the film was made 96 |
| 19:55:01 | Cell_prog_insect | or? |
| 19:55:20 | Patlabor221 | time would have to move on, or the people inside would figure something was up |
| 19:56:17 | jzaun | I want to send clients connecting to my server 2 messages, any way to accompish that? |
| 19:56:39 | Cell_prog_insect | its strange this world, could be a sim, some animals eat what they walk over, and we are all chemical, its crazy |
| 19:57:02 | captain_proton | argg |
| 19:57:07 | captain_proton | wants to send Patlabor221 code, but cannot |
| 19:57:23 | captain_proton | ponders rebuilding glibc |
| 19:57:27 | jzaun | wants a mill. dollars, but can't get it |
| 19:59:48 | Cell_prog_insect | and ppl would try to answer the question, what is behind the universe, or what has created it all, and thats the main force that activates all the scientific research in the humans, but can simulated creatures ever tell what is outside their simulation, or on what device its running on, just a philosophical thought of cell |
| 20:01:18 | captain_proton | chokes on the water associated with his pill |
| 20:02:26 | Patlabor221 | I keep telling you jolt cola |
| 20:02:44 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: is all your stuff NFG? |
| 20:02:52 | captain_proton | NFG? |
| 20:03:05 | Patlabor221 | first word NO last workd Good |
| 20:03:08 | Patlabor221 | fill in the rest |
| 20:03:14 | Patlabor221 | we use that in our bug reports :) |
| 20:03:23 | Patlabor221 | File..Open NFG |
| 20:03:40 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 20:03:59 | Patlabor221 | how many of the teeth ere pulled? |
| 20:04:02 | Patlabor221 | all 4? |
| 20:04:02 | captain_proton | 4 |
| 20:04:18 | Patlabor221 | I was lucky I only had to have 2 removed |
| 20:04:22 | Patlabor221 | and only one at a time |
| 20:04:30 | Patlabor221 | didn't even go under |
| 20:04:44 | Patlabor221 | they just grabed plyers and "yank" |
| 20:04:51 | captain_proton | eww |
| 20:05:04 | Patlabor221 | they wern't impacted |
| 20:05:09 | Patlabor221 | just not coming in right |
| 20:05:12 | captain_proton | mine all were |
| 20:05:14 | Patlabor221 | so no surgery |
| 20:05:30 | Patlabor221 | still got my lowers |
| 20:05:36 | Patlabor221 | "bonus" teeth |
| 20:05:48 | captain_proton | umm |
| 20:05:55 | captain_proton | gets very scared |
| 20:05:58 | Patlabor221 | but I'm also missing a bone in my hand so I guess that make sup for it |
| 20:06:02 | captain_proton | error building glibc |
| 20:06:11 | Patlabor221 | that's not good |
| 20:06:14 | Cell_prog_insect | it was really a hard time for me when a thooth of me was pulled |
| 20:06:37 | Patlabor221 | what error cap? |
| 20:06:41 | Cell_prog_insect | i just cant imagine if it were 4 |
| 20:07:17 | Cell_prog_insect | but why did they pull u the teeth |
| 20:07:54 | Patlabor221 | on him, his wisdom teeth were impacted ( they were coming in on top of other teeth). |
| 20:08:01 | Patlabor221 | it's common to get all 4 pulled |
| 20:08:23 | Patlabor221 | I was lucky to only have 2 removed |
| 20:09:30 | Cell_prog_insect | they were coming in on top of other teeth, dont understand that plz explain |
| 20:09:56 | Patlabor221 | wisdom teeth are the backmost 4 teeth |
| 20:10:05 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 20:10:08 | Patlabor221 | they don't come in untill later in life |
| 20:10:17 | Cell_prog_insect | come in? |
| 20:10:21 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:10:25 | Patlabor221 | grow |
| 20:10:37 | Cell_prog_insect | they grow??? |
| 20:10:40 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:10:43 | captain_proton | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/errlist.c:41: weak declaration of `_old_sys_nerr' must precede definition |
| 20:10:47 | Cell_prog_insect | uncredible |
| 20:10:58 | Patlabor221 | they are do not come in at the same time as the regular adult teeth |
| 20:11:10 | Patlabor221 | on a lot of people they come in at an angle |
| 20:11:17 | Patlabor221 | and hit other teeth |
| 20:11:24 | Patlabor221 | so they have to be removed |
| 20:11:29 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, k |
| 20:11:41 | Patlabor221 | or they will break or pinch other teeth |
| 20:11:49 | Patlabor221 | not everyone has it like that tho |
| 20:11:56 | Cell_prog_insect | that will never happen to me, iquess |
| 20:12:04 | Patlabor221 | how old are you? |
| 20:12:07 | Cell_prog_insect | 25 |
| 20:12:14 | Patlabor221 | allready happend prolaby then |
| 20:12:24 | Patlabor221 | they just came in stright |
| 20:12:43 | Cell_prog_insect | but i have no probs with my wisdom teeth |
| 20:12:54 | Patlabor221 | usualy happens in late teens early 20's |
| 20:13:00 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 20:13:30 | Patlabor221 | proalby your body's way of saying "ok man I'm done growin, get out there and get a job" |
| 20:13:49 | Cell_prog_insect | hahaha |
| 20:14:18 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:14:19 | bzbot | Red: 3 players, score: -8 | Green: 4 players, score: 34 | |
| 20:14:22 | Cell_prog_insect | i need a job where i can be the chief |
| 20:14:45 | Patlabor221 | cheif? you mean boss or presendent? |
| 20:14:52 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, |
| 20:14:57 | captain_proton | i think he means chef |
| 20:14:59 | Patlabor221 | start your own company |
| 20:15:06 | Patlabor221 | ohh you want to cook |
| 20:15:11 | Patlabor221 | like shimp and stuff |
| 20:15:17 | Cell_prog_insect | yes but where to ge money |
| 20:15:29 | Patlabor221 | investors |
| 20:15:31 | Cell_prog_insect | i need to hire ppl |
| 20:15:37 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:15:44 | Cell_prog_insect | so i need money |
| 20:15:49 | Patlabor221 | that's why you work a reglular job first |
| 20:15:55 | Patlabor221 | TANSTAFL |
| 20:16:26 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, but i dont want to be a pc slave |
| 20:16:34 | Patlabor221 | then don't |
| 20:16:39 | captain_proton | tries to remember what TANSTAFL means |
| 20:16:45 | Patlabor221 | you better know |
| 20:16:50 | Patlabor221 | I know you know |
| 20:16:56 | Cell_prog_insect | who? |
| 20:17:01 | Patlabor221 | cap |
| 20:17:03 | Cell_prog_insect | i dont know |
| 20:17:26 | Patlabor221 | how you are in your job is all how you chose to do it |
| 20:17:26 | captain_proton | oh you left out an A |
| 20:17:32 | captain_proton | TANSTAAFL |
| 20:17:37 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:17:38 | Patlabor221 | damnit |
| 20:17:43 | Patlabor221 | RLE :) |
| 20:17:50 | Cell_prog_insect | what does it mean? |
| 20:18:35 | Cell_prog_insect | RLE = run length encoded thats what may lexicon says |
| 20:18:44 | Patlabor221 | There Aint no such thing as a free lunch |
| 20:19:11 | Cell_prog_insect | free lunch but cell its only raw things, only fruits |
| 20:19:15 | Patlabor221 | read ringworld |
| 20:19:25 | Cell_prog_insect | nothing else |
| 20:19:27 | Patlabor221 | soo you still have to pay for food |
| 20:19:31 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 20:19:33 | Patlabor221 | or grow it yourslef |
| 20:19:42 | Patlabor221 | it means everything has a cost |
| 20:19:44 | captain_proton | hmm, not from ringworld |
| 20:19:46 | Cell_prog_insect | no to much work |
| 20:19:48 | captain_proton | tries to remember the book |
| 20:19:50 | Patlabor221 | even if it's nit imideate apernat |
| 20:19:57 | Patlabor221 | it was in ringworld |
| 20:20:07 | captain_proton | 'the moon is a harsh mistress' |
| 20:20:09 | Patlabor221 | it may have been mentioned before |
| 20:20:16 | Cell_prog_insect | but in the world in reallity everithin is for free, |
| 20:20:17 | Patlabor221 | yes I think that was first |
| 20:20:20 | captain_proton | heinlein |
| 20:20:26 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:20:36 | Patlabor221 | no it's not cell |
| 20:20:41 | Patlabor221 | it just sometinmes seems that way |
| 20:20:42 | Cell_prog_insect | yes it is |
| 20:21:06 | Patlabor221 | it's not allways a monitary cost |
| 20:21:07 | Cell_prog_insect | money and work is an invention oif ppl, dont forget that |
| 20:21:16 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 20:21:16 | Cell_prog_insect | food is free like water and air |
| 20:21:37 | Patlabor221 | yes but there still is an enviromental cost |
| 20:21:45 | Patlabor221 | you use oxegen |
| 20:21:52 | Patlabor221 | and plants convert it back |
| 20:21:55 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 20:21:58 | Patlabor221 | if they are not in balance |
| 20:22:04 | Patlabor221 | then we have to work to make it be so |
| 20:22:17 | Patlabor221 | all the plant energy comes from the sun |
| 20:22:18 | Cell_prog_insect | if we can |
| 20:22:18 | Widget | Ya, it's from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. |
| 20:22:31 | Patlabor221 | but it was also in ringworld |
| 20:22:35 | Cell_prog_insect | but we cant only heal the smalles illness |
| 20:22:42 | Cell_prog_insect | at once |
| 20:22:48 | Patlabor221 | the sun is a finate source of energy it will run out |
| 20:22:51 | Widget | Patlabor221: I think "tanj" was in Ringworld. |
| 20:22:55 | Patlabor221 | everything has cost |
| 20:22:57 | Patlabor221 | it was |
| 20:23:04 | Cell_prog_insect | everything is free |
| 20:23:06 | Patlabor221 | and he gave where it came from |
| 20:23:12 | Patlabor221 | I read it alast month |
| 20:23:27 | Cell_prog_insect | but ppl make it cost |
| 20:23:36 | Patlabor221 | the universe makes it cost |
| 20:23:42 | Cell_prog_insect | no |
| 20:23:54 | Patlabor221 | look at the big picture |
| 20:24:11 | Patlabor221 | where do the plants get the nutrients to make the things you eat? |
| 20:24:25 | Cell_prog_insect | from sun and earth |
| 20:24:39 | Patlabor221 | so we allready know the sun is finite |
| 20:24:49 | Patlabor221 | the earth is also finite |
| 20:24:53 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, but its for free |
| 20:25:02 | Patlabor221 | it does not cost money yes |
| 20:25:10 | Patlabor221 | but when we take from it |
| 20:25:16 | Patlabor221 | we have to work to do so |
| 20:25:24 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 20:25:26 | Patlabor221 | food will not just apear for you |
| 20:25:35 | Patlabor221 | it's not free |
| 20:25:38 | Patlabor221 | you have to do something |
| 20:25:44 | Patlabor221 | now in this simple case |
| 20:25:47 | Cell_prog_insect | k |
| 20:25:47 | Patlabor221 | it's very very very cheap |
| 20:25:53 | Patlabor221 | but not fee |
| 20:26:07 | Patlabor221 | cost does not allways mean money |
| 20:26:10 | Cell_prog_insect | ok, convinced |
| 20:26:19 | Patlabor221 | of course your not |
| 20:26:25 | Patlabor221 | ohh you are :) |
| 20:26:26 | Patlabor221 | opps |
| 20:26:29 | captain_proton | heh |
| 20:26:40 | Patlabor221 | I hate it when then train won't stop |
| 20:27:09 | Patlabor221 | I did like how niven grouhgt that thing from heinlen |
| 20:27:13 | Patlabor221 | thought that was neat |
| 20:27:45 | bryjen | patlabor221: it's good you're not an accountant. you'd drive 'em nuts usings high precision numbers to the n-th decimal place. .00000000000000000001 != 0 |
| 20:28:01 | Patlabor221 | and I'd just screw it up :) |
| 20:28:10 | Patlabor221 | but yeah it don't |
| 20:28:22 | Patlabor221 | it all eventualy adds up |
| 20:28:40 | Patlabor221 | if you look outside the scope of a normal lifespan |
| 20:28:48 | bryjen | very very very very cheap != free. |
| 20:29:17 | Patlabor221 | it's like the airlines |
| 20:29:35 | Patlabor221 | they save a millon dollars a year by removing 3 peanuts from each package |
| 20:29:35 | Cell_prog_insect | lim->00 cheap = free |
| 20:29:43 | Cell_prog_insect | :) |
| 20:30:07 | Patlabor221 | it all depends on your volume |
| 20:30:30 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: You mean lim cost->0 ¿¿= free? |
| 20:30:52 | Patlabor221 | wonder what the engergy cost for a human is over it's lifetime |
| 20:31:04 | captain_proton | limit caring -> 0 = /me goes off to do something else |
| 20:31:22 | | I haven't seen 'chestañl', Widget |
| 20:31:22 | Widget | ibot: seen chestañl? |
| 20:31:24 | Patlabor221 | cap how goes the lib problem? |
| 20:31:29 | | chestal was last seen on #bzflag 1 hours, 13 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying: it might learn that only spam comes from your address :-) [Fri Aug 16 20:18:13 2002] |
| 20:31:29 | Widget | ibot: seen chestal? |
| 20:31:37 | Widget | Chestal: Still here? |
| 20:31:37 | Patlabor221 | or is just that version of GCC crap? |
| 20:31:38 | Cell_prog_insect | Widget:yes |
| 20:31:42 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: workin' on it |
| 20:31:50 | captain_proton | looks like it didn't install libstdc++ quite right |
| 20:31:59 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 20:32:11 | Patlabor221 | that reminds me I need the latest platform SDK |
| 20:33:16 | Cell_prog_insect | evil bastard was downloaded >10000, but cannot find cell 3d model |
| 20:34:14 | Patlabor221 | well there are 2 reasons for that |
| 20:34:32 | Patlabor221 | 1) the modelers who make them are usualy laughed out of the forums |
| 20:34:47 | Patlabor221 | 2) they get sued by funmation. |
| 20:34:53 | Cell_prog_insect | why its a cool character |
| 20:35:05 | Patlabor221 | sure for 10 year olds |
| 20:35:14 | Cell_prog_insect | i involve it in my game TankiTank |
| 20:35:23 | Patlabor221 | it's in the same realm as pokimon for most people |
| 20:35:30 | Patlabor221 | then don't sell that game |
| 20:35:44 | Cell_prog_insect | i will be for free of coz |
| 20:35:51 | Patlabor221 | still you may have issues |
| 20:36:05 | Patlabor221 | I don't know who owns the liscense in germany |
| 20:36:22 | Cell_prog_insect | oh i dont care |
| 20:36:26 | Patlabor221 | but funmation does not want anyone impinging on there intelecutal property here |
| 20:36:33 | Patlabor221 | I know you don't |
| 20:36:45 | Patlabor221 | but that won't save you from the lawers |
| 20:37:26 | Cell_prog_insect | hehe, because i used my own cell modell |
| 20:37:35 | Cell_prog_insect | ridiculous |
| 20:38:47 | Patlabor221 | still his likeness is copyright |
| 20:39:07 | Patlabor221 | you don't own it, nor have permisions to use it |
| 20:39:15 | Patlabor221 | they do seem to go overboard on it |
| 20:39:36 | Cell_prog_insect | but i will do at monster haevy full |
| 20:39:38 | Patlabor221 | that's why that bid for power thing dosn't say DBZ in it anywhere |
| 20:41:09 | Cell_prog_insect | hey they have garfiled as modell there :), funny to get killed by garfield |
| 20:41:56 | Cell_prog_insect | homer looks cool too |
| 20:42:10 | T-34 | Hello everybody! |
| 20:43:19 | Widget | Does anyone know if gcj (GNU Java Compiler) is any good? |
| 20:43:21 | Widget | hihihi, T-34. |
| 20:44:09 | Cell_prog_insect | would be nice if i could find some case studies of miamato the super mario developer, he mades mario interact with the 3d world so incredible, that i asked myself how they did it |
| 20:44:29 | Widget | Cell_prog_insect: Go ask him. |
| 20:46:28 | Cell_prog_insect | no i dont have enough confidence to do that |
| 20:53:27 | Cell_prog_insect | i just wrote a 3d max script that explodes a mesh into near planar submeshes and applays planer mapping to them,as descriped in an gamasutra article, but after the light texture mapping is done, i think i have to render each submeht from the texture map plane and then merge the submaps all together, hm its still not that easy |
| 20:53:36 | corndawg | gcj? hum.. never heard of it i dun think |
| 20:55:43 | captain_proton | gcj = gnu compiler for java |
| 20:55:56 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 20:55:59 | captain_proton | Widget already said so |
| 20:56:03 | captain_proton | Widget: i'd just use the jdk |
| 20:56:11 | Widget | There's no Debian package for it. |
| 20:56:20 | Widget | But jikes with kaffe seems to work fine. |
| 20:56:43 | Widget | I am trying applets now. |
| 20:56:48 | mandy | hihihi |
| 20:56:52 | Widget | hihihi |
| 20:57:00 | mandy | :P |
| 20:57:25 | captain_proton | --- Received a CTCP MP3 Creed - One Last Breath.mp3 from corndawg (to #bzflag) |
| 20:57:27 | Widget | Curses! It won't display applets! |
| 20:57:44 | mandy | 34!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:58:00 | corndawg | lol cap |
| 20:58:04 | corndawg | its the script i use |
| 20:58:08 | mandy | condom boyyyy |
| 20:58:23 | T-34 | Hey Mandy |
| 20:58:33 | T-34 | I was looking for something |
| 20:58:33 | mandy | hehehe |
| 20:58:36 | T-34 | sorry |
| 20:58:39 | mandy | its ok |
| 20:58:41 | mandy | lol |
| 20:58:42 | T-34 | Glad to see you again |
| 20:58:46 | mandy | Yeah' |
| 20:59:04 | mandy | I just like being a pest |
| 20:59:05 | T-34 | No condoms mandy, no condoms |
| 20:59:10 | mandy | lol |
| 20:59:19 | corndawg | <--- affraid to ask :P |
| 20:59:31 | T-34 | Ask ask ask |
| 20:59:35 | mandy | hehehe |
| 20:59:37 | T-34 | ask Mandy |
| 20:59:43 | mandy | why me? |
| 20:59:49 | corndawg | lol |
| 20:59:51 | T-34 | you started |
| 20:59:56 | mandy | nu uh |
| 21:00:00 | T-34 | with that guy |
| 21:00:04 | T-34 | remember? |
| 21:00:07 | Patlabor221 | jesus I leave for a sec and look what you all do |
| 21:00:13 | mandy | ohh |
| 21:00:26 | mandy | the guy named condon |
| 21:00:43 | mandy | switched his name to condoms |
| 21:00:45 | T-34 | Condom Mandy, please |
| 21:00:56 | mandy | lol |
| 21:01:07 | T-34 | well; please anyone from US here? |
| 21:01:11 | Patlabor221 | whya re you the rubber girl now? |
| 21:01:16 | T-34 | I have a really big problem |
| 21:01:22 | Patlabor221 | I am |
| 21:01:25 | corndawg | <-- lives in the us |
| 21:01:30 | T-34 | Please tell me something |
| 21:01:37 | Patlabor221 | something |
| 21:01:47 | mandy | hmm |
| 21:01:49 | T-34 | Do you hear anything about imports of cow meat from Romania? |
| 21:01:59 | mandy | ick |
| 21:02:00 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 21:02:07 | T-34 | Is a cow disease here in Romania? |
| 21:02:08 | Patlabor221 | don't we have engouth cows? |
| 21:02:33 | T-34 | a friend told me that heard on US that the romanian cow meat it's not good |
| 21:02:45 | Patlabor221 | I hae not heard that |
| 21:02:47 | mandy | condoms |
| 21:02:52 | T-34 | my little daughter is in hospital and we don't know what she eat |
| 21:02:52 | mandy | rubber girl =\ |
| 21:02:55 | Patlabor221 | and why do we need to import beef |
| 21:02:59 | bryjen | patlabor221: and enough of our own cow disease. |
| 21:03:05 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:03:08 | mandy | brb |
| 21:03:15 | Patlabor221 | geting more condoms? |
| 21:03:30 | T-34 | please do you heard anything about this? |
| 21:03:47 | Patlabor221 | search on it |
| 21:03:54 | Patlabor221 | use the power of the internet |
| 21:03:57 | T-34 | I can't find anything |
| 21:04:10 | T-34 | I search and search and search |
| 21:04:14 | T-34 | all us news |
| 21:04:30 | Patlabor221 | then I am guessing that there sin't anything |
| 21:04:32 | T-34 | perhaps my friend from US is dreaming or telling lies |
| 21:04:33 | corndawg | welp... bbl |
| 21:04:50 | Patlabor221 | seem that they have lifed there ban on eu beef |
| 21:05:11 | Patlabor221 | thats all I can see |
| 21:05:21 | Patlabor221 | an why would we need more beef |
| 21:05:35 | bryjen | patlabor221: we eat too much ? |
| 21:05:51 | Patlabor221 | yeah but I thought we still made enought to export |
| 21:06:00 | T-34 | ok, thx Patlabor |
| 21:06:01 | Widget | Gr..... why does my Java not work!?!? |
| 21:06:12 | Patlabor221 | cus it sucks :) |
| 21:06:39 | T-34 | widget: GOD knows! |
| 21:06:40 | Widget | Patlabor221: No, applets don't load. |
| 21:06:49 | Patlabor221 | do you have to install stuff to get get java to work on debian? |
| 21:06:49 | bryjen | i saw a litle blub in the newspaper the other day that we IMPORTed $50M in US FLAGS last year. $30M from China. |
| 21:07:03 | Patlabor221 | that I will belive |
| 21:07:32 | bryjen | and mostly in October. |
| 21:07:44 | Patlabor221 | makes more sense |
| 21:09:02 | bryjen | goes to change the backup tapes |
| 21:14:30 | Nicole3 | hi pplz |
| 21:14:41 | | doughecka? |
| 21:14:41 | doughecka | ibot? |
| 21:14:41 | strayer | hi and bye Nicole |
| 21:14:48 | bryjen | T-34: maybe some news sites here: http://dir.yahoo.com/Regional/Countries/Romania/News_and_Media/ |
| 21:15:52 | | bryjen: i don't know |
| 21:15:52 | bryjen | ibot doughecka ? |
| 21:16:35 | | bryjen: i'm not following you... |
| 21:16:35 | bryjen | ibot: tell me it's late and i should go home. |
| 21:16:42 | bryjen | hehe |
| 21:16:45 | bryjen | Good. |
| 21:16:58 | T-34 | thx bryjen |
| 21:17:04 | T-34 | I go now |
| 21:17:13 | bryjen | me too. later all. |
| 21:17:17 | T-34 | I just find a few about that |
| 21:17:20 | Nicole3 | bye ppl |
| 21:17:36 | T-34 | Nicole?; 3? |
| 21:17:45 | T-34 | bye all |
| 21:17:49 | T-34 | and thx again |
| 21:17:53 | Chestal | bye T-34 |
| 21:18:29 | Widget | Bye. |
| 21:18:31 | Widget | Too late. |
| 21:41:35 | Patlabor221 | prepares to spend money on things he does not need |
| 21:41:42 | Chestal | like? |
| 21:41:53 | captain_proton | a new monitor for me |
| 21:41:56 | captain_proton | =} |
| 21:41:58 | Patlabor221 | lord of the rings CCG cards |
| 21:42:12 | Patlabor221 | I don't have any monitors |
| 21:42:34 | captain_proton | Chestal: why is my proggie segfaulting inside of glibc? |
| 21:42:58 | Patlabor221 | we lost our damned refurb suplyer cus the boss was stupid |
| 21:43:25 | Chestal | proton: my guess is that you corrupted the heap earlier |
| 21:45:52 | captain_proton | it worked fine with gcc 2.95 |
| 21:46:06 | captain_proton | now that i've upgraded, it seg's inside of __strtod_internal |
| 21:48:39 | Chestal | hmm, maybe apply somethign like efence |
| 21:49:06 | Chestal | overload global new/delete operators with simple guards at beginning and end of each memory block |
| 21:49:26 | Chestal | compilers like visual c++ probably have something fancy for this already |
| 21:49:36 | captain_proton | why would changing compilers create a heap overflow? |
| 21:49:47 | Chestal | of course it _might_ also be a bug in a library etc., but usually it isn't |
| 21:50:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 21:50:12 | Chestal | there's probably just some error which causes writing to a place in memory you're not supposed to write to |
| 21:50:14 | Chestal | this might go unnticed |
| 21:50:17 | Widget | Chestal: Post the results of your implementation of the spam filter to Slashdot. :) |
| 21:50:20 | Widget | hihihi, [BZ]Ruudi |
| 21:50:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | ah nice game it was in ducati |
| 21:50:33 | Chestal | Widget: still in early testing here |
| 21:50:43 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: It's 3 AM in Estonia? |
| 21:50:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | 2 |
| 21:50:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | at night |
| 21:50:58 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Oh, yes. |
| 21:51:03 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Go to bed! |
| 21:51:03 | Chestal | furthermore as I rad it, the guy that did that website implemneted it, too (probably in lisp) |
| 21:51:29 | Chestal | Widget: and my implementation is a bit slow, hmm |
| 21:51:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i'll go soon...i got concert tomorrow and i will sleep there if i dont stay into dreams till half a day |
| 21:51:40 | Widget | Chestal: What do you mean? |
| 21:51:45 | Widget | Chestal: Yes, he did. |
| 21:54:07 | Chestal | reading in the wordlist from an ascii file and building the map data structure each time takes a significant amount of CPU time |
| 21:54:14 | Chestal | I wonder whether a hashmap would be faster |
| 21:54:33 | Chestal | I could also have a spamcheck daemon running all the time |
| 21:54:39 | Chestal | that would be a very efficient solution |
| 21:56:00 | paul | Chestal: take it you're talking about the probability filtering? |
| 21:56:13 | paul | (ie from that /. article earlier) |
| 21:56:54 | Widget | Chestal: BTW, what was your mp3 to ogg shell script? |
| 21:58:34 | Chestal | paul: ah, didn't know it was on ./, a friend of mine gave me the URL this afternoon |
| 21:58:45 | Chestal | mpg321 -q -w - "$1" | oggenc -Q - -o "`basename "$1" mp3`ogg" |
| 21:59:05 | paul | Chestal: and you're writing an implementation as a daemon? |
| 21:59:36 | Chestal | paul: just an idea, I implemented a quick solution in C++ today, but it coudl use a little less CPU |
| 21:59:48 | Widget | Chestal: Thanks. |
| 21:59:54 | Chestal | paul: >95% of CPU is needed to read in the word list and build the internal map everytime |
| 21:59:57 | paul | (daemon as in? an MTA? sendmail milter? standalone daemon that agents talk to via net or IPC?) |
| 22:00:02 | paul | Chestal: eek. |
| 22:00:17 | Chestal | paul: so I thought I'd do this step only once and feed the mails to this process |
| 22:00:50 | paul | Chestal: could you not mmap a file and dump the in-core data structure to it? |
| 22:01:00 | Chestal | right now, it takes about 1s to check one mail on this machine here (which isn't the fastest on earth) |
| 22:01:11 | paul | hmm.. |
| 22:01:15 | Chestal | paul: hmm, not really with C++ |
| 22:01:23 | paul | ah. |
| 22:01:25 | Chestal | it can be done of course, but I don't like it |
| 22:01:49 | captain_proton | dumping anything std:: is a pain in the ass |
| 22:02:00 | Chestal | hmm, just noticed that my implementation differs from what is describe don that page, hmm |
| 22:02:02 | paul | avoids C++... |
| 22:02:41 | paul | PS: re spam.. |
| 22:02:52 | paul | feel free to bounce/redirect any spam to: |
| 22:02:55 | paul | spam@dishone.st |
| 22:03:15 | Widget | What is that? |
| 22:03:16 | paul | *redirect* mail - dont forward!! forward is of 0 use. |
| 22:03:25 | Widget | And why is it in Sao Tome and Principe? |
| 22:03:26 | paul | spam trap address of mine. |
| 22:03:32 | captain_proton | swallows some blood |
| 22:03:40 | Widget | Ewww. |
| 22:04:22 | paul | anything to that address will be reported to Vipuls Razor, all MTA ips in headers will have relay checkers run against them (and reported if open relay) and spam also reported to spamcop. |
| 22:04:25 | Chestal | my implemantation avoid duplets when calculating the 15 most interestign words, his doesn't |
| 22:05:18 | paul | Widget: its in .st cause st. is a cheap registrar and my dictionary domain name checking script told me it was free. |
| 22:05:35 | Widget | paul: Is it really free? |
| 22:05:38 | paul | (remove the . from dishone.st, what's left?) |
| 22:05:46 | Widget | Ah. |
| 22:05:46 | paul | Widget: not since i registered it. :) |
| 22:05:49 | Widget | Haha. :P |
| 22:06:03 | Widget | How much does it cost now? |
| 22:06:19 | paul | there was a really cool domain free in ac. but ac. is $200 a year. |
| 22:06:36 | Widget | Free in ac? |
| 22:06:47 | Widget | What country is .ac? |
| 22:06:50 | paul | Widget: dont remember, something less than $30. |
| 22:07:10 | paul | Widget: no idea. |
| 22:07:24 | Widget | /country ac |
| 22:07:28 | Widget | ac = Unknown |
| 22:08:20 | paul | http://www.rs250.org/rs250-mondello.png |
| 22:10:38 | [BZ]Ruudi | night |
| 22:12:26 | Chestal | one problem I hav ehere is that mots spam is in English, and most private mails to me are German |
| 22:12:39 | Chestal | so it might learn that any English mail is spam |
| 22:12:56 | Widget | :) |
| 22:13:01 | Chestal | I guess I'll feed it with some bzflag ml |
| 22:13:14 | Chestal | on my tests I had to false positives |
| 22:13:19 | Chestal | but those were very tough ones |
| 22:13:26 | paul | Chestal: if you can figure out a way to maintain state, i can run your code against my spam archive. |
| 22:13:44 | paul | and possible against english list mail |
| 22:13:54 | Chestal | paul: well, it depends on what you want to achieve |
| 22:14:00 | paul | just realised that - yes. |
| 22:14:19 | Chestal | paul: to build the word list, state is maintained of course |
| 22:14:24 | Chestal | so that#s one batch run |
| 22:14:47 | Chestal | but of course a larger word list will make checking an individual mail take more time righ tnow |
| 22:15:00 | paul | true. |
| 22:15:18 | paul | how do you check for the words? |
| 22:15:35 | Chestal | hmm, what do you mean exactly? |
| 22:15:47 | Widget | paul: KMail has two options, Redirect and Bounce.... which one is appropriate? |
| 22:15:59 | Widget | paul: Never mind. |
| 22:16:02 | paul | by what mechanism? strncmp, regcomp, etc.. |
| 22:16:04 | Widget | paul: Bounce returns to sender. |
| 22:16:13 | paul | Widget: redirect so. :) |
| 22:16:33 | Widget | paul: What does your spam trap do? |
| 22:16:36 | Chestal | paul: on what step? when I analyze a single mail? |
| 22:16:42 | MrCooper | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:16:43 | bzbot | Red: 1 players, score: -14 | Green: 3 players, score: 40 | |
| 22:16:51 | paul | Chestal: yes. when you check an incoming mail |
| 22:17:08 | Chestal | paul: I am using a map data structure for the big word list |
| 22:17:17 | Chestal | then I just do lookups in that map |
| 22:17:17 | paul | presumably you have your word list, and you go through the mail, doing: |
| 22:17:22 | Chestal | using c++ string class |
| 22:18:03 | paul | for mword in mailwords ; for lword in listwords ; compare lword and mword ; done ; done |
| 22:18:15 | Chestal | nono, that would be too slow |
| 22:18:16 | paul | by what mech do you do that? |
| 22:18:22 | Chestal | I use the map |
| 22:18:25 | paul | ok. |
| 22:18:26 | Chestal | it's a tree internally |
| 22:18:33 | Chestal | so lookup is fast |
| 22:18:39 | Chestal | bulding the tree isn't so fast, though |
| 22:18:51 | paul | so its |
| 22:19:06 | paul | for mword in mailwords ; do lookup mword in tree ; <actions> ; done |
| 22:19:14 | Chestal | yes |
| 22:19:31 | paul | Chestal: and you cant dump this tree? |
| 22:19:48 | paul | eg, what about using berkely db files? |
| 22:20:04 | Chestal | never used them |
| 22:20:25 | Chestal | my solution is small and pretty |
| 22:20:38 | Chestal | and when I extend it to a daemon it will be pretty fast |
| 22:20:45 | paul | also, larry mcvoy has a very fast db library. tdb iirc. |
| 22:20:47 | paul | samba uses it. |
| 22:20:48 | Chestal | it's fast enough already for most situations |
| 22:20:56 | paul | except for building the tree. :) |
| 22:21:10 | Chestal | well, currently 1s on this computer here |
| 22:21:14 | paul | ah. |
| 22:21:18 | Chestal | no problem for me, I don't get many mails |
| 22:21:27 | paul | vipuls razor is very good too. |
| 22:21:30 | Chestal | but it woudl be too slow fo rpeople with a huge amount of mails |
| 22:22:11 | paul | hmm.. |
| 22:22:17 | Chestal | makign it a servcie should be easy |
| 22:22:19 | Chestal | could use a fifo |
| 22:22:30 | Chestal | so I'd only have to add liek 5-10 lines of code |
| 22:22:30 | Patlabor221 | thre goes $150 down the craper |
| 22:22:46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: whatcha get? |
| 22:22:53 | Patlabor221 | paper |
| 22:22:56 | Patlabor221 | and ink |
| 22:23:06 | captain_proton | $150 worth? |
| 22:23:09 | Patlabor221 | and tin foil |
| 22:23:17 | captain_proton | ooh make a hat |
| 22:23:30 | Patlabor221 | yup, in a versy specific arangmenet |
| 22:23:47 | Patlabor221 | http://www.thecardvault.com/product.asp?0=203&1=305&3=2408 |
| 22:24:25 | Patlabor221 | 2 boxes |
| 22:24:56 | Patlabor221 | and I'll proalby get another athalon XP next week |
| 22:25:00 | Patlabor221 | when I can find a good deal |
| 22:25:38 | Widget | Hm.... in Newfoundland it's night time. |
| 22:27:50 | Patlabor221 | isnt' that one of those cold places on your map? |
| 22:28:40 | Patlabor221 | hmmm the instumental verion of the super metroid theme sounds like it should be in a movie |
| 22:30:05 | Patlabor221 | double cap |
| 22:31:15 | captain_proton | yep |
| 22:31:21 | captain_proton | tryin' to get xchat 1.9.2 working |
| 22:31:27 | captain_proton | not sure if its worth it yet |
| 22:31:59 | Patlabor221 | how is it out there? |
| 22:31:59 | captain_proton | singapore now? |
| 22:32:07 | BZFlagSingapore | heh, yep. ;-) |
| 22:32:18 | BZFlagSingapore | fine, I'm on the trip home now. |
| 22:32:19 | Patlabor221 | I am not that impresed with x-chat |
| 22:32:27 | BZFlagSingapore | airport wireless. ;-) |
| 22:32:33 | Patlabor221 | keen |
| 22:33:03 | captain_proton | xchat on linux is nice |
| 22:33:12 | Patlabor221 | on windows not so hot |
| 22:33:14 | captain_proton | but it looks like 1.9.2 is not quite up to par yet |
| 22:33:21 | captain_proton | so i will forgo the make install |
| 22:33:21 | Patlabor221 | it don't like 2 monitors |
| 22:33:44 | paul | whats the attribute for the HTML img tag to give an image a descriptive text? |
| 22:33:54 | Patlabor221 | alt: |
| 22:33:57 | Chestal | alt="foo" |
| 22:33:59 | paul | (that most browsers will popup on mouseover?) |
| 22:34:02 | paul | ah. thanks! |
| 22:34:04 | Patlabor221 | alt |
| 22:34:42 | Patlabor221 | I'm amased I rememberd that |
| 22:35:05 | Chestal | hehm I received two spam mails |
| 22:35:12 | Patlabor221 | out of? |
| 22:35:14 | bzdoug | dsl.... |
| 22:35:21 | Chestal | out of 2 :-) |
| 22:35:32 | Patlabor221 | is that good or bad? |
| 22:35:34 | paul | chestal - bounce them on! |
| 22:35:54 | Chestal | my simple spam filters caught them, but the new filter woudl also have detected them |
| 22:36:07 | BZFlagSingapore | anyone tried crs's project out? |
| 22:36:26 | Chestal | that mouse etc. sharing? nope |
| 22:36:26 | captain_proton | hmm, lemme find it again |
| 22:36:30 | BZFlagSingapore | uses x2x, xmove, hydra, etc. for same thing on X. |
| 22:36:52 | bzdoug | what project? |
| 22:36:53 | Chestal | hmm, I once used x2x, it's evil |
| 22:37:01 | Chestal | never heard of xmove of hydra |
| 22:37:14 | paul | my procmail anti-spam filter: http://hibernia.jakma.org/~paul/procspam |
| 22:37:25 | BZFlagSingapore | older projects with similar capabilities. |
| 22:37:53 | BZFlagSingapore | xmove runs a proxy X server and then allows you to redirect any client to different servers. |
| 22:37:56 | doughecka | ? |
| 22:38:15 | Chestal | I cannot read procmailrc, does it use scoring? |
| 22:38:19 | doughecka | I missed it |
| 22:38:19 | BZFlagSingapore | ie: run xmove at work, and then get home and xmove all your apps to your home machine, then xmove them back when you are done. |
| 22:38:31 | Chestal | ah, I used that or somethgn similar once |
| 22:38:35 | paul | Chestal: how do you mean cannot read? |
| 22:38:35 | Chestal | worked with restrictions |
| 22:38:40 | paul | Chestal: and yes, it's scoring. |
| 22:38:49 | Chestal | paul: I do no treally know the format |
| 22:38:55 | paul | Chestal: i include that file into my main procmailrc. |
| 22:39:10 | paul | Chestal: score^weight regex |
| 22:39:16 | paul | Chestal: man procmailsc |
| 22:39:33 | Chestal | what does ^1 or ^2 mean? |
| 22:39:50 | paul | ^1 - same score added every match |
| 22:40:06 | paul | ^2 - score added doubles on each match. |
| 22:40:16 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: my existing sound lib blows, what woudl you sugugest? |
| 22:40:46 | Chestal | paul: hmm, so you added all this manually? |
| 22:40:54 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: hmm... |
| 22:41:05 | captain_proton | openal? |
| 22:41:13 | Patlabor221 | and I mean bhhhhuuullowws |
| 22:41:23 | paul | Chestal: yes, manual, over the course of the last year. |
| 22:42:01 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: you know if it plays ogg? |
| 22:42:13 | paul | Chestal: its at about 400 odd regexs, going to add a couple of thousand more regexs (though very specific regexs) from the nl.linux.org cvs. |
| 22:42:27 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: openal doesn't *load* any files, it does all the 3d stuf |
| 22:42:34 | captain_proton | for loading, just use libvorbisfile |
| 22:42:46 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmm I don't need the 3d styuff |
| 22:42:48 | paul | Chestal: altogether i have 3 different kinds of anti-UCE systems checking my mail |
| 22:43:12 | paul | 1. rbl-milter with lots of DNSBls configured (adds a header if any IP in received headers is blacklisted) |
| 22:43:17 | Chestal | we're using a from-based mail filter in sendmail hre |
| 22:43:19 | paul | 2. vipuls razor |
| 22:43:30 | Chestal | don't know if this is very effective these days, though |
| 22:43:31 | paul | 3. scoring procmail filter |
| 22:43:40 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: don't need 3d audio? WHAT KIND OF MONSTER ARE YOU? |
| 22:43:58 | Patlabor221 | was gonn do it myself |
| 22:44:11 | doughecka | hehe |
| 22:44:11 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:44:26 | captain_proton | well, if you just wanna load samples, libvorbisfile couldn't be easier |
| 22:44:26 | paul | Chestal: doubt it.. though DNSbl + razor + score filter catches above 95% of my spam. |
| 22:44:27 | Patlabor221 | dont' need complex 3d audio would be more precise |
| 22:44:41 | paul | (but with a few false positives) |
| 22:44:48 | Patlabor221 | I want to load, and play both wave and ogf |
| 22:44:56 | Patlabor221 | and be able to play multiples of the same sample |
| 22:45:01 | Chestal | paul: well, I have no stats for how much sendmail blocks |
| 22:45:14 | Patlabor221 | and be able to controol there vol and pan speratly |
| 22:45:26 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:45:26 | Chestal | my 3 simply procmail rules caught about 80% of what came through I guess |
| 22:45:29 | Patlabor221 | I love the API for my lib, it's just buggyer then hell |
| 22:45:32 | Patlabor221 | and no linux |
| 22:45:39 | Chestal | I have big hopes for the new filter :-) |
| 22:45:39 | paul | Chestal: and they are? |
| 22:45:39 | Patlabor221 | so I know it needs to ber placed |
| 22:45:59 | Chestal | paul: one which matches lots of consecutive paces in subject lines |
| 22:46:09 | Patlabor221 | looks at "the list"(tm) |
| 22:46:10 | paul | aha... how many? |
| 22:46:23 | doughecka | is there such a thing as a windows 2000 driver for S3 trio cards? |
| 22:46:25 | Chestal | paul: hmm, I guess it's 5 right nw, othe rpeopel use 10 or 12 |
| 22:46:31 | Patlabor221 | yes it comes with windows |
| 22:46:37 | doughecka | bah |
| 22:46:42 | doughecka | it does not work with mine |
| 22:46:45 | doughecka | :( |
| 22:46:47 | Chestal | paul: another rule searches for strange non ASCII-characters which I only get from asian spam |
| 22:46:48 | paul | is always looking for new things to add to procmail, eg like 'color=' or 'ff0000' |
| 22:46:53 | captain_proton | tries to figure out whats going on with his compiler again |
| 22:46:58 | Patlabor221 | get new card |
| 22:46:59 | Chestal | paul: and the most effective rule searchef for mails which are html only |
| 22:47:04 | paul | Chestal: yeah, i have a lot of those kinds of rules. |
| 22:47:13 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:47:17 | doughecka | smart guy |
| 22:47:28 | doughecka | if your paying... |
| 22:47:30 | paul | Chestal: aye, that'd be a good rule. but i cant think how to safely create a regex that will match html only mails |
| 22:47:36 | Chestal | the html onyl / no tetx/plain rule catche d70% all alone |
| 22:47:54 | Chestal | I didn't do it myself :-) |
| 22:47:56 | paul | aha - so you look for absence of text/plain? |
| 22:48:58 | captain_proton | sadly downgrades to 2.95.3 |
| 22:49:07 | Patlabor221 | cap:http://audiere.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:49:12 | doughecka | ever hear of Number nine video cards? |
| 22:49:29 | captain_proton | i've got a number nine in my ole' 486 |
| 22:49:29 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:49:33 | Patlabor221 | they were ok |
| 22:49:39 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:49:40 | captain_proton | that was a damn good card |
| 22:49:44 | captain_proton | supported virtual resolutions :) |
| 22:49:53 | Patlabor221 | I had a #9 agp that was decent |
| 22:50:00 | doughecka | I got a number nine trio card |
| 22:50:08 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 22:50:11 | doughecka | bah |
| 22:50:14 | doughecka | I cant find a driver |
| 22:50:26 | Patlabor221 | the trio is an S# chiposet |
| 22:50:28 | Patlabor221 | s3 |
| 22:50:33 | doughecka | yes |
| 22:50:35 | Patlabor221 | check sonicblue.com |
| 22:50:41 | Patlabor221 | that's what becoem of S3 |
| 22:50:42 | doughecka | but S3 drivers dont work |
| 22:50:45 | doughecka | ok |
| 22:50:52 | Patlabor221 | you sure it's a trio then? |
| 22:50:57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:51:01 | doughecka | pretty sure |
| 22:51:01 | Patlabor221 | and is it AGP or PCI |
| 22:51:06 | doughecka | it says so on the card |
| 22:51:07 | doughecka | PCI |
| 22:51:15 | Patlabor221 | dono man |
| 22:51:22 | Patlabor221 | I tink #9 is dead |
| 22:51:33 | doughecka | it is |
| 22:51:39 | doughecka | but he still has the dirvers up |
| 22:52:05 | doughecka | windows 3.1 and 95 drivers up |
| 22:52:07 | doughecka | ;) |
| 22:52:12 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: gimme the API for the sound lib |
| 22:52:24 | Patlabor221 | my wraper |
| 22:52:33 | Patlabor221 | or that what it wraps? |
| 22:52:48 | captain_proton | your API |
| 22:53:20 | Patlabor221 | stand by.. making as small as pisble for bandwith disabled |
| 22:53:33 | doughecka | haha |
| 22:54:13 | Patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/soundmngr.zip |
| 22:54:54 | Patlabor221 | my API should look rather familair |
| 22:55:03 | Patlabor221 | it's based on the same ideas as the texture manager |
| 22:56:54 | Patlabor221 | hmmm this audiere uses smart pointers |
| 22:58:59 | captain_proton | smart pointers? |
| 22:59:04 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:59:07 | Patlabor221 | they are neat |
| 22:59:23 | Patlabor221 | they deelte themselves when they are completely out of scope |
| 22:59:32 | Patlabor221 | they know when you make copies of them too |
| 22:59:41 | Patlabor221 | and keep a count |
| 22:59:50 | captain_proton | basically just reference counted? |
| 22:59:56 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:00:19 | Patlabor221 | they are suposed to be part of the next STL spec |
| 23:01:12 | Chestal | boost? |
| 23:01:43 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 23:02:48 | Patlabor221 | bahhh that API will not do what I want |
| 23:02:53 | Patlabor221 | 1 file 1 play |
| 23:12:26 | captain_proton | wtf |
| 23:12:28 | Patlabor221 | LOL a feature of a player here is : "Balls-on accurate - plays the way nature intended " |
| 23:12:36 | captain_proton | i downgraded compilers and it STILL is crashing in __strtod_internal |
| 23:13:06 | Patlabor221 | did you rebuild all your libs? |
| 23:13:31 | captain_proton | yep |
| 23:15:13 | Patlabor221 | and your nvidias? |
| 23:15:29 | captain_proton | hmm, now |
| 23:15:31 | captain_proton | no |
| 23:15:35 | captain_proton | rebuilds nvidias |
| 23:15:47 | Patlabor221 | just thinking of all the things you changed before |
| 23:15:49 | captain_proton | nope, no change |
| 23:15:54 | Patlabor221 | so that you can put them back |
| 23:16:05 | Patlabor221 | are the paramaters correct? |
| 23:16:10 | Patlabor221 | for the func? |
| 23:16:53 | captain_proton | it was working fine yesterday morning |
| 23:16:58 | captain_proton | didn't touch it last night |
| 23:17:04 | captain_proton | then today, after gcc it dead |
| 23:17:25 | Patlabor221 | very very very bizare |
| 23:17:37 | Patlabor221 | wnat me to try it here? |
| 23:17:44 | Patlabor221 | on my lin machine? |
| 23:17:59 | Patlabor221 | ohh wait no real GL |
| 23:19:43 | Widget | Why is .za the country code for South Africa? |
| 23:19:57 | Risolino | Zouth Africa |
| 23:20:08 | Widget | Haha. |
| 23:20:28 | Patlabor221 | maybe all the other good ones were taken |
| 23:20:40 | captain_proton | because .sa is already taken? |
| 23:20:53 | Widget | But why the z? |
| 23:21:24 | Widget | Hm... |
| 23:21:29 | Widget | http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/16/1722229.shtml?tid=126 |
| 23:21:32 | captain_proton | is thinking of trying a glibc overhaul again |
| 23:21:38 | Widget | Why in New Zealand? (Score:4, Funny) |
| 23:21:38 | Widget | by GuyMannDude on Friday August 16, @05:25PM (#4085677) |
| 23:21:38 | Widget | (User #574364 Info) |
| 23:21:38 | Widget | Why do they need an autonomous grass-cutting machine in NZ? Can't you just tie a sheep to a pole in the center of your yard and have him eat the grass for you? |
| 23:21:40 | Widget | Grrr...... |
| 23:21:57 | Patlabor221 | sheep don't have constant depth setings |
| 23:22:01 | Widget | Re:Why in New Zealand? (Score:4, Funny) |
| 23:22:01 | Widget | by rediguana (red@nospam.rediguana.co.nz) on Friday August 16, @05:59PM (#4085917) |
| 23:22:01 | Widget | (User #104664 Info) |
| 23:22:01 | Widget | Can't you just tie a sheep to a pole in the center of your yard and have him eat the grass for you? |
| 23:22:01 | Widget | Cause sheep have a habit of shitting on the lawn:) Oh, and tied to a pole, your sheep would be easy pickings for any passing Australian, especially that Crocodile Hunter bloke... |
| 23:22:17 | Widget | "Crikey! Now he's REALLY pissed off! I won't be using my thumb this time, though..." |
| 23:22:18 | jacques | bah |
| 23:22:32 | jacques | (no pun intended) |
| 23:22:36 | jacques | :-\ |
| 23:22:45 | Widget | Haha. |
| 23:27:57 | captain_proton | decides to go for a glibc compile |
| 23:28:57 | Patlabor221 | can't hurt can it? |
| 23:29:16 | captain_proton | yes it can |
| 23:29:23 | Patlabor221 | how? |
| 23:29:58 | captain_proton | if glibc gets messed up, everything dies |
| 23:30:14 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 23:30:29 | Patlabor221 | well if your glib is messed up dosn't that mean you are sorta hosed anyway? |
| 23:30:47 | captain_proton | right now glibc mostly works |
| 23:30:56 | Patlabor221 | mostly? |
| 23:31:32 | captain_proton | all except for this __strtod_internal thing |
| 23:31:52 | Patlabor221 | called by anthing that mip maps |
| 23:32:05 | captain_proton | right |
| 23:32:11 | Patlabor221 | BZA's texture manager calls that does it crap out too? |
| 23:32:26 | captain_proton | jetstream uses the same texture manager |
| 23:32:50 | Patlabor221 | duh |
| 23:32:59 | Patlabor221 | well you called it bitstream once |
| 23:33:04 | Patlabor221 | so I wasn't sure |
| 23:33:11 | captain_proton | bitstream is the other guy's thing |
| 23:33:20 | Patlabor221 | yeah, hence my confusion |
| 23:41:08 | Widget | What sort of Linux program can play mpgs? |
| 23:41:18 | captain_proton | like video mpgs? |
| 23:41:22 | Widget | Yes. |
| 23:41:25 | captain_proton | xine |
| 23:41:29 | captain_proton | or mplayer |
| 23:41:50 | Widget | mplayer isn't packaged yet. |
| 23:42:06 | captain_proton | poor baby |
| 23:43:48 | Widget | Does the new version of wget use curses? |
| 23:43:59 | captain_proton | believe so |
| 23:44:33 | captain_proton | ooh, good word |
| 23:44:50 | Patlabor221 | thought you would like iut |
| 23:45:22 | Patlabor221 | so it this one : sesquipedalian |
| 23:45:51 | Patlabor221 | it's a nice way of saying about a foot and a half |
| 23:46:13 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 23:46:13 | sussudio | ibot jzaun? |
| 23:46:30 | jacques | I've told you the definition for chiliad a thousand times. |
| 23:46:41 | sussudio | is there any way of not having bzflag lock up when it cant connect to a server like jzaun? |
| 23:46:46 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 23:46:54 | sussudio | lol? |
| 23:47:03 | Patlabor221 | for the thing before |
| 23:47:05 | Patlabor221 | I am sorry |
| 23:47:11 | Patlabor221 | I find no humor in your plight |
| 23:47:19 | jacques | sussudio: I have same problem :-\ |
| 23:47:24 | Patlabor221 | it should just time out? |
| 23:47:48 | sussudio | there's 2 apps that can lock up windows 2000...... exact audio copy in some cases and bzflag |
| 23:47:54 | sussudio | yeah it SHOULD timeout but it doesnt |
| 23:47:55 | Patlabor221 | or does someone need to a "don't crash" option for the command line? |
| 23:48:08 | sussudio | especially with jzaun |
| 23:48:12 | Patlabor221 | like bxflag.exe -dc |
| 23:48:20 | Patlabor221 | or -dfc |
| 23:48:25 | sussudio | -kfc |
| 23:48:27 | Patlabor221 | if you realy mean it |
| 23:48:35 | jacques | yeah I have same problem and it's on linux - doesnt lock up whole OS, just bzflag |
| 23:48:39 | Patlabor221 | that's only for doug |
| 23:48:53 | sussudio | hey someone should make a hidden commandline for that... -khc turns everyone into chickens instead of tanks |
| 23:48:56 | BZFlag | ooks like the map on jzaun is buggy. |
| 23:49:01 | BZFlag | er looks. |
| 23:49:03 | Patlabor221 | CTC |
| 23:49:10 | BZFlag | bzfs needs better checking on that front. |
| 23:49:12 | Patlabor221 | variation of CTF |
| 23:49:18 | captain_proton | BZFlag: buggy how? |
| 23:49:36 | BZFlag | usually it's bad teleporter links that cause it. |
| 23:49:53 | BZFlag | I've been meaning to walk it in more detail and fix it on the server. |
| 23:50:03 | sussudio | what's good bzflag music? |
| 23:50:07 | Patlabor221 | or have the client not crash |
| 23:50:21 | Patlabor221 | salor moon theme song in GERMAN |
| 23:50:22 | captain_proton | BZFlag: the assert(>= 0 && < t * 2) ? |
| 23:50:27 | BZFlag | listens to genesis while playing. does that count? |
| 23:50:40 | sussudio | i've been playing "I will survive" for a while now but it doesnt really seem to work |
| 23:50:44 | BZFlag | captain_proton: sounds about right, yeah. |
| 23:51:02 | Widget | Patlabor221: That theme song was horrible. |
| 23:51:03 | sussudio | "mr self destruct", however, works very well |
| 23:51:09 | BZFlag | sussudio: try the tracks from "command and conqueror". they work well. ;-) |
| 23:51:14 | Patlabor221 | yes yes it was |
| 23:51:34 | Patlabor221 | if I convice everyone to use it, then they will play worse making me look better :) |
| 23:51:41 | sussudio | plays debbie gibson mp3's..... feel the pain |
| 23:52:18 | Patlabor221 | plays anime songs translated into english yet sung by japanese people.... that can be pain. |
| 23:53:32 | Patlabor221 | some people shold just stick to singingin in there native language |
| 23:54:10 | Widget | sussudio: I heard you the first time. :) |
| 23:54:16 | Widget | Patlabor221: ooh, where can I get this? |
| 23:54:19 | sussudio | wha? |
| 23:54:35 | Patlabor221 | what my horible ainme songs? |
| 23:54:41 | Widget | Yes. |
| 23:54:48 | Patlabor221 | just conunication by 2mix english verion |
| 23:55:01 | Patlabor221 | or the regular good japanese version that roxors |
| 23:55:19 | Widget | Both! |
| 23:55:25 | Patlabor221 | un momoento |
| 23:55:53 | Patlabor221 | sorts throuh the 43 2mix files |
| 23:57:35 | sussudio | hums "electric youth"..... |
| 23:57:45 | captain_proton | what. the. fuck. |
| 23:57:52 | captain_proton | new glibc, still crashing |
| 23:59:33 | Patlabor221 | widget ftp to ftp.gibbscam.com\pub\outgoing\Vizkit |
| 23:59:40 | Patlabor221 | then get the JC zip files |
| 23:59:53 | Patlabor221 | those are 4 variations |
