| 00:03:01 | bzdug | brings up the subject of motherboards again |
| 00:03:26 | Widget | Join #chineseroom and stay there whenever you sign on! |
| 00:03:26 | patlabor221 | pulls out his gun |
| 00:03:38 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:03:41 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 00:03:49 | Widget | So that it will become popular. |
| 00:03:58 | bzdug | hides behind a QBasic manual |
| 00:04:08 | Widget | JOIN #chineseroom NOW!!!! |
| 00:04:24 | bzdug | hmm |
| 00:04:34 | Widget | We're up to two people! |
| 00:04:38 | Widget | patlabor221: You can be the third! |
| 00:04:42 | Widget | captain_proton: And you the fourth! |
| 00:04:50 | captain_proton | refuses |
| 00:04:59 | Widget | captain_proton: You cannot. |
| 00:04:59 | bzdug | ok, I got 2 choices in mobos: http://www.tufshop.com/store/product1070.html and http://www.target-sale.com/tusa/items/combo/i03095.html |
| 00:09:12 | patlabor221 | cap: I think you should atempt to disbeleive |
| 00:09:28 | captain_proton | attempt to disbelieve? |
| 00:15:21 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:15:30 | patlabor221 | cap you never played D&D did you? |
| 00:15:46 | captain_proton | played a couple times |
| 00:19:35 | patlabor221 | you could atempt to disbeilve illusions |
| 00:22:33 | patlabor221 | cap what do you use to burn CDs on lin? |
| 00:22:49 | captain_proton | cdrecord |
| 00:22:57 | captain_proton | (command-line tool) |
| 00:24:16 | Widget | I thought everybody used cdrecord. |
| 00:24:19 | Widget | Or some frontend thereof. |
| 00:24:22 | captain_proton | yes |
| 00:24:29 | patlabor221 | ok, what about something graphical |
| 00:24:31 | captain_proton | i don't use a frontend though |
| 00:24:33 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:24:38 | captain_proton | try xcdroast maybe? |
| 00:31:31 | patlabor221 | ok next question |
| 00:31:38 | patlabor221 | how do I configure the nic? |
| 00:32:20 | patlabor221 | isn't there something like netconfig |
| 00:32:23 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:32:36 | bzdougy | in redhat there is |
| 00:32:55 | bryjen | that's probably distribution specific |
| 00:33:04 | captain_proton | yes, it is somewhat distribution specific |
| 00:33:05 | patlabor221 | ok what is normal then |
| 00:33:15 | patlabor221 | well i got redhat and I forgot |
| 00:33:30 | patlabor221 | and we don't seem to have the gnome controol pannel for it |
| 00:33:32 | captain_proton | looks like it is netconfig |
| 00:33:45 | patlabor221 | k thanks |
| 00:34:08 | bryjen | there's always ifconfig |
| 00:34:19 | captain_proton | question for ya patlabor221 |
| 00:34:35 | captain_proton | should i make the panel manager a dll thingy like the texture manager? |
| 00:35:16 | patlabor221 | you can |
| 00:35:31 | captain_proton | i know i can, i asked if i should |
| 00:37:19 | captain_proton | perhaps move all the UI stuff into its own little lib |
| 00:37:21 | captain_proton | ? |
| 00:38:32 | Widget | Are there nVidia drivers for FreeBSD? |
| 00:38:46 | captain_proton | someone's ported the kernel driver |
| 00:39:37 | bzdug | patlabor221 you here? |
| 00:40:46 | patlabor221 | I am now |
| 00:41:05 | patlabor221 | It would not be a bad ida |
| 00:41:13 | bzdug | what is your ebay id? |
| 00:41:19 | patlabor221 | our company? |
| 00:41:25 | bzdougy | yea |
| 00:41:25 | patlabor221 | rgpsales |
| 00:41:28 | bzdougy | ok |
| 00:42:50 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, for dlls can i include stl members? i see you always use void* |
| 00:43:16 | bzdug | haham your sellin my dvd burner? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2045564186 |
| 00:43:20 | bzdug | :) |
| 00:44:10 | bzdug | no, wrong one.. |
| 00:44:18 | bzdug | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2045564767 |
| 00:45:26 | patlabor221 | no you can't |
| 00:45:38 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 00:45:41 | patlabor221 | I know |
| 00:45:48 | patlabor221 | that's what I was complaining about |
| 00:45:56 | bzdug | lol |
| 00:45:57 | patlabor221 | yo can't export templates |
| 00:47:25 | patlabor221 | no doug that's a difrent one |
| 00:47:47 | patlabor221 | that's is a dvr-r |
| 00:47:48 | patlabor221 | not a ram |
| 00:48:05 | patlabor221 | yeah that ram is the last of them |
| 00:48:07 | bzdug | oh |
| 00:48:10 | bzdug | :) |
| 00:48:16 | patlabor221 | I can't ship anything this week tho |
| 00:48:22 | bzdug | oh |
| 00:48:26 | patlabor221 | my shiping girl is on vactaion |
| 00:48:37 | bzdug | hehe |
| 00:49:03 | bzdug | where do you get french OS 9 cds? |
| 00:49:19 | bryjen | france ? |
| 00:49:56 | Widget | La francophonie. |
| 00:50:17 | bryjen | or canada |
| 00:50:28 | bzdug | hehe |
| 00:50:30 | bzdug | french |
| 00:50:36 | bzdug | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2045316983 |
| 00:50:51 | patlabor221 | yeah so |
| 00:52:26 | bzdug | Widget: !!! |
| 00:52:37 | bzdug | please voice and op me ;) |
| 00:54:02 | bryjen | Here's a GUI linux CDR app: http://arson.sourceforge.net/ Donno if its any good. Just saw the name and liked that. |
| 00:54:12 | bzdug | :) |
| 00:54:42 | patlabor221 | thanks |
| 00:55:38 | bryjen | hmmmm, version *0*.9.6 ... and for KDE.... errrr |
| 00:55:45 | bryjen | oh well |
| 00:58:08 | captain_proton | time for code reuse! |
| 00:58:19 | patlabor221 | hell yeah |
| 00:59:29 | captain_proton | expression evaluation in the panel description files :) |
| 01:00:09 | captain_proton | x = ($screenWidth / 2) - 256; |
| 01:00:09 | captain_proton | y = ($screenHeight / 2) - 128; |
| 01:00:09 | captain_proton | w = 512; |
| 01:00:09 | captain_proton | h = 256; |
| 01:00:12 | bzdougy | bah |
| 01:00:19 | Widget | bzdougy: Hehe. :) |
| 01:00:22 | bzdougy | well take it off |
| 01:00:24 | bzdougy | ;) |
| 01:00:45 | bzdougy | not really |
| 01:01:27 | bryjen | ?porque dos "dug"s ? |
| 01:01:47 | bryjen | !Ayee! !Tres! |
| 01:04:15 | Widget | ¡Hola, bryjen! |
| 01:05:07 | bryjen | Hola, Widget. |
| 01:05:33 | bryjen | with your fancy multi-lingual keyboard |
| 01:05:34 | Widget | ¿Qué pasa? |
| 01:05:42 | bryjen | Nada |
| 01:06:06 | bryjen | careful, or I'll run out of words soon |
| 01:06:19 | Widget | Talk to jpablo. |
| 01:06:19 | bryjen | tries to remember |
| 01:06:26 | Widget | I don't speak Spanish. |
| 01:06:50 | jpablo | hola. |
| 01:06:57 | Widget | El español es lengua materna de jpablo. |
| 01:07:01 | Widget | hihihi, jpablo. |
| 01:07:09 | patlabor221 | quantos questa or un burrito? |
| 01:07:27 | bzdoug | celupa |
| 01:07:36 | bryjen | here to stay, jpablo? you seem to be having difficulty. |
| 01:08:09 | bryjen | patlabor221: heh. i figured that last word would be cervesa |
| 01:08:27 | bryjen | if i spelled that right |
| 01:08:27 | patlabor221 | thought I'd variy it up a bit |
| 01:08:39 | bzdoug | ¡el hahaha, widget no sabe español! Aposté que patlabor221 no lo sabe... |
| 01:08:46 | jpablo | bryjen: yeah, a power failiure partialy fucked up my filesystem. |
| 01:08:58 | bzdoug | ¿el jpablo sabe esto? |
| 01:08:58 | jpablo | bryjen: but looks like everythig is back to normal now. |
| 01:09:07 | bryjen | and that's why they call is fsck :( |
| 01:09:20 | jpablo | claro que si, y mejor que tu :-P |
| 01:09:32 | bzdoug | ¿bryjen no saben español? |
| 01:09:39 | bryjen | un poco |
| 01:09:55 | bzdoug | clear that if, and better than your |
| 01:10:09 | bryjen | bzdoug knows babelfish |
| 01:10:13 | bzdoug | no |
| 01:10:16 | bzdoug | google |
| 01:10:18 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:10:24 | bryjen | same diff |
| 01:10:25 | bzdoug | lo jzaun! |
| 01:10:31 | jzaun | Hey all |
| 01:10:35 | jzaun | hi bzdoug |
| 01:10:50 | bzdoug | ¡hey jzaun! ¿usted sabe español? |
| 01:11:09 | jzaun | nope, just ein bischen Deutch |
| 01:11:20 | bzdoug | ¡Haha, puedo utilizar el google!! |
| 01:11:51 | bzdoug | ah so können Sie dieses lesen? gut, cuz, das ich kippe |
| 01:12:13 | jzaun | I don't speak that much or that well in German |
| 01:12:17 | bzdoug | ah così potete leggere questo? buon, perché smusso |
| 01:12:27 | bzdoug | oh ainsi vous pouvez lire ceci? bon, parce que je biseaute |
| 01:12:31 | jpablo | puta verga que weba tengo. |
| 01:12:35 | bzdoug | ah assim você pode ler este? bom, porque eu cant |
| 01:12:54 | jzaun | you both compleatly lost me now... :-( |
| 01:13:21 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:13:27 | bzdoug | puta yard that weba I have.? |
| 01:13:38 | patlabor221 | prepares to initalise "plissfull silence mode" (tm) |
| 01:13:53 | patlabor221 | ahhhhhh |
| 01:13:54 | bzdoug | patlabor221: its call, /part |
| 01:13:56 | bryjen | s/pliss/bliss |
| 01:14:42 | bzdoug | ¡Sé español! ¡Sé español! ¡Sé el google! ¡Sé alemán! |
| 01:14:58 | bzdoug | Ich spreche spanisch! Ich spreche spanisch! Ich kenne google! Ich spreche deutsch! |
| 01:15:08 | patlabor221 | yes it shouls |
| 01:15:17 | patlabor221 | gahh why can't I type |
| 01:15:26 | jpablo | bzdoug: no tienes ni idea ! |
| 01:15:39 | patlabor221 | see thats the silence part :) |
| 01:15:44 | jzaun | I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae a han noston ne 'wilith. |
| 01:15:44 | bzdoug | (sending through google |
| 01:15:54 | patlabor221 | cap: can you send me what you have? |
| 01:15:56 | jzaun | ^^ I know a language you all don't :-( |
| 01:15:58 | bzdoug | you do not have nor idea! |
| 01:16:02 | jzaun | :-P that is :-) |
| 01:16:16 | bzdoug | Is to love rendering aen, are mathon ne nen, are mathon ne chae to are noston ne ' wilith. |
| 01:17:23 | bzdoug | Ichway eiwayß etwasway irklichway ierdway! |
| 01:17:31 | jzaun | Anyone know what: "I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae a han noston ne 'wilith." says? I'm thinking of getting a tattoo of it in the proper script |
| 01:17:47 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:18:09 | patlabor221 | elvish? |
| 01:18:28 | jzaun | patlabor221: you google search it? yes it is Elvish |
| 01:18:35 | patlabor221 | no |
| 01:18:42 | bzdoug | AgbZFlay isway away ultiplayermay 3DAY anktay attlebay amegay. It'sway oneway ofway ethay ostmay opularpay amesgay everway |
| 01:18:42 | bzdoug | onway Iliconsay Aphicsgray ystemssay. Eckchay outway ethay eviewsray andway eesay ethay atestlay ewsnay. |
| 01:18:44 | jzaun | patlabor221: bonos question, what version of Elvish? |
| 01:18:45 | patlabor221 | I just know these thigs :) |
| 01:18:53 | patlabor221 | that I don't know |
| 01:18:55 | patlabor221 | drow? |
| 01:19:00 | patlabor221 | just a guess |
| 01:19:21 | jzaun | Tengwar |
| 01:19:24 | patlabor221 | looks like tolkien |
| 01:19:39 | patlabor221 | tengwar gandal love that font |
| 01:19:53 | jzaun | Its Tolkien's earliest version of Elvish |
| 01:19:55 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:20:21 | jzaun | I want to get the tattoo in Tengwar Cursive (The font that was used on The One Right) |
| 01:20:27 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:20:45 | patlabor221 | ohh the dark version of elvish |
| 01:20:52 | jzaun | Though Tengwar Quenva is an easier read |
| 01:20:53 | patlabor221 | used by the fallen miar |
| 01:22:01 | jzaun | BTW, it says "The world is changed, I feel it in the water, I feel it in the Earth, I smell it in the air." |
| 01:23:00 | captain_proton | patlabor221: what i have? for what? |
| 01:23:30 | patlabor221 | code |
| 01:23:50 | jzaun | Hello captain_proton |
| 01:23:52 | patlabor221 | awww that's just the intro to the movie |
| 01:24:15 | jzaun | patlabor221: Yah, but its cool... and fitting to the world today |
| 01:24:31 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:24:32 | captain_proton | code for... ? |
| 01:24:46 | ski | hi all |
| 01:24:56 | jzaun | Hello ski |
| 01:24:59 | ski | hi |
| 01:25:09 | ski | anyone for play on ducati? |
| 01:25:15 | ski | apache and I are on now |
| 01:25:27 | jzaun | patlabor221: You buy the DVD yet? |
| 01:25:32 | patlabor221 | code for that wahat you work on |
| 01:25:45 | patlabor221 | for the pannel stuff and texture manangert and all that |
| 01:25:58 | ski | anyone interested: we'll be there for a little while |
| 01:25:59 | ski | cya |
| 01:26:00 | patlabor221 | jzaun: day it came out got 3 |
| 01:26:06 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 01:26:14 | captain_proton | lemme flesh out the panel manager a little more |
| 01:26:19 | patlabor221 | k |
| 01:26:37 | jzaun | patlabor221: Got 2 Full and Wide screen, Can't wait for the expanded verion. 30 Extra min. |
| 01:26:53 | patlabor221 | bah fullscreen |
| 01:26:55 | patlabor221 | = ass |
| 01:27:00 | jzaun | patlabor221: You watch the "The Two Towers" preview/makeing of? |
| 01:27:07 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:27:20 | jzaun | patlabor221: Yah I agree... I actually bought it by acsident |
| 01:27:41 | patlabor221 | return them |
| 01:27:41 | captain_proton | so patlabor221 when am i getting my second trinitron? |
| 01:27:49 | jzaun | I can't wait to see it, Already got my tickets to every showing that day |
| 01:27:57 | patlabor221 | cap: 2015 |
| 01:28:02 | captain_proton | patlabor221: damn |
| 01:28:17 | patlabor221 | ok Jzuan that's just damned freaky |
| 01:28:28 | patlabor221 | cap: but you get your DVD next week |
| 01:28:34 | bzdoug | woohoo |
| 01:28:43 | patlabor221 | shing dept at work is on vacation |
| 01:28:50 | patlabor221 | I can't send anything this weel |
| 01:29:16 | jzaun | patlabor221: I had the full movie on my computer 4 months ago.. still have it for that matter. A friend of mine ripped the screener. |
| 01:29:16 | captain_proton | patlabor221: sweet :) |
| 01:29:35 | patlabor221 | so did we |
| 01:29:36 | jzaun | patlabor221: You know if Elvish grammer is the same as English? |
| 01:29:44 | patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 01:31:51 | patlabor221 | I just guessed based on the words :) |
| 01:32:08 | patlabor221 | whoooooot! |
| 01:32:23 | patlabor221 | one down |
| 01:32:39 | bz_doug | one up |
| 01:32:39 | captain_proton | heh |
| 01:32:58 | patlabor221 | adjust the sights on the sniper rifle |
| 01:33:24 | bz_doug | adjusts the sights on his pulse EMP cannon |
| 01:33:38 | bz_doug | impressive eh? |
| 01:34:00 | captain_proton | my precious... |
| 01:34:21 | patlabor221 | stop calling your video card that |
| 01:34:32 | captain_proton | i was referring to my poptarts |
| 01:34:38 | patlabor221 | same thing |
| 01:34:46 | bz_doug | grins and evil grin, as he heaves the cannon to his sholder |
| 01:34:59 | patlabor221 | just don't put the poptarts on your finger |
| 01:35:09 | patlabor221 | trust me, it never turns out good |
| 01:35:39 | captain_proton | you've tried this? |
| 01:36:08 | patlabor221 | no comment |
| 01:36:33 | patlabor221 | .uumm it's just what I hear... yeah.. what I hear.... |
| 01:36:52 | Widget | Hm... my dad's old computer stopped working. |
| 01:36:54 | captain_proton | snickers |
| 01:36:59 | Widget | I wonder if I can convince him to donate a video card. |
| 01:37:13 | Widget | Of course, I have no idea how to install it, but there are howtos online probably. |
| 01:37:18 | patlabor221 | jsut go get a scredriver and gank it |
| 01:37:27 | bzdoug | bed time, I give patlabor221 the ability to tak with out my (valubal) comments |
| 01:37:29 | patlabor221 | you put it in and turn it on |
| 01:37:34 | patlabor221 | and it goes "bing" |
| 01:37:34 | Widget | But you have to touch the power supply first. |
| 01:37:46 | jpablo | uh, why ? |
| 01:37:55 | patlabor221 | "static" |
| 01:38:03 | jpablo | bah. |
| 01:38:04 | patlabor221 | you toucht he case that's fine |
| 01:38:13 | patlabor221 | you do that when you crack it open |
| 01:38:20 | Widget | But the books say "power supply". |
| 01:38:30 | jpablo | Widget: don't trust in books :-P |
| 01:38:30 | bryjen | skewdwiver |
| 01:38:56 | Widget | Trust in jpablo instead. |
| 01:38:57 | patlabor221 | bah books are for girls |
| 01:39:06 | Widget | :) |
| 01:39:14 | patlabor221 | unplug it and take off the side cover |
| 01:39:21 | patlabor221 | and yank that thing |
| 01:39:23 | jpablo | yeah, just open the machine and start plugin everything you can. |
| 01:39:28 | Widget | I don't know how to take off the side cover! |
| 01:39:33 | patlabor221 | yeah strip it clean |
| 01:39:34 | Widget | And I don't know which thing is the video card! |
| 01:39:38 | jpablo | damn. |
| 01:39:43 | jpablo | that's ugly. |
| 01:39:45 | patlabor221 | the one closest to the powersupply |
| 01:39:55 | patlabor221 | what kind of PC is it? |
| 01:39:59 | jpablo | Widget: what videocard your dad have? |
| 01:40:02 | Widget | A Dell. |
| 01:40:03 | bryjen | the one the monitor's connected to |
| 01:40:12 | Widget | jpablo: I don't know. I think some sort of Geforce 4. |
| 01:40:12 | patlabor221 | is it a decnetly new one? |
| 01:40:16 | Widget | jpablo: Better than mine. |
| 01:40:19 | Widget | jpablo: That's all I know. |
| 01:40:19 | jpablo | humm. |
| 01:40:23 | patlabor221 | get screwdriver NOW |
| 01:40:27 | Widget | patlabor221: It's... 2 years old or so. |
| 01:40:28 | patlabor221 | it's the topmost one |
| 01:40:30 | Widget | I think. |
| 01:40:33 | patlabor221 | then it aint a GF4 |
| 01:40:38 | patlabor221 | not if it's stock |
| 01:40:44 | jpablo | yeah, it is not a gf4. |
| 01:40:47 | patlabor221 | but still it's the topmost card |
| 01:40:57 | patlabor221 | all AGP slots are there |
| 01:40:57 | bryjen | skew-dwive-ah |
| 01:41:09 | patlabor221 | make with the ganking |
| 01:41:34 | Widget | patlabor221: Wait, mine or my dad's. |
| 01:41:35 | Widget | patlabor221: ? |
| 01:41:41 | Widget | patlabor221: My dad's is a few months old. |
| 01:41:51 | jpablo | oh. |
| 01:41:53 | patlabor221 | ohhh then your dads proalby has one |
| 01:41:55 | Widget | patlabor221: And it stopped working, so he is using a different computer, and he says he will fix it later. |
| 01:41:56 | bryjen | Widget: a few months and its dead ? |
| 01:41:58 | jpablo | then mayne you have a gf4 :-P |
| 01:42:08 | Widget | bryjen: Yes. Apparently the friend who built it did something bad. |
| 01:42:10 | patlabor221 | go.. sneak in all stealthy like |
| 01:42:29 | patlabor221 | and steal |
| 01:42:33 | bryjen | Widget: are you sure you want parts from such a .....reliable.... source ? |
| 01:42:51 | patlabor221 | how do you do something "bad" |
| 01:42:54 | Widget | bryjen: I doubt the video card is responsible.... if so, then too bad for me. |
| 01:42:58 | patlabor221 | there are like 5 things in there |
| 01:43:14 | patlabor221 | and only 3 of them move |
| 01:43:27 | patlabor221 | all the rest just humm |
| 01:43:28 | jpablo | maybe he did something bad like putting cheap memory :-P |
| 01:43:29 | bryjen | patlabor221: overclock w/o adding heatsinks / fans ? |
| 01:43:31 | patlabor221 | and get hot |
| 01:43:35 | patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 01:43:43 | patlabor221 | proalby overheated |
| 01:43:56 | jpablo | that's another posibility. |
| 01:44:00 | patlabor221 | cheap ram can suck |
| 01:44:37 | Widget | Yes, he probably bought inferior parts and pocketed the dividends. |
| 01:45:19 | jpablo | he pocketed the money of the fans :P |
| 01:46:50 | patlabor221 | or pocketed the fans |
| 01:47:04 | jpablo | :\ |
| 01:52:50 | patlabor221 | wonders how to make anime style missle paths |
| 01:53:11 | jzaun | wonders how to spli on ' ' and /n in perl |
| 01:54:12 | captain_proton | anime style missile paths? |
| 01:54:26 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:54:35 | patlabor221 | have you seen any anime in space? |
| 01:54:58 | Widget | Some interesting selections from the ibiblio archive of Chinese music. |
| 01:55:03 | Widget | S03.Why_Roses_Red.au |
| 01:55:06 | Widget | S06.Socialism_Good.au |
| 01:55:12 | Widget | S08.Dear_Party_Mama.au |
| 01:55:32 | patlabor221 | party mama? |
| 01:55:57 | captain_proton | nope |
| 01:56:04 | Widget | I think they mean the Communist party. |
| 01:56:06 | | blackhound was last seen on #bzflag 8 days, 2 hours, 5 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: see you guys, good game [Tue Aug 6 00:50:36 2002] |
| 01:56:06 | ski | ibot seen blackhound? |
| 01:56:16 | Widget | I shoudl play communist music when playing green. |
| 01:56:16 | patlabor221 | cap: they follow this odd psudosinal path |
| 01:56:24 | patlabor221 | and allways intermix |
| 01:56:26 | patlabor221 | you'd have to see it |
| 01:56:40 | captain_proton | psudosinal? |
| 01:56:45 | captain_proton | you mean sinusoidal? |
| 01:56:58 | patlabor221 | yeah sorry |
| 01:57:08 | ski | widget: care for a challenge someday soon? |
| 01:57:21 | patlabor221 | or I ould be right, it's like a sine wave but not realy |
| 01:57:30 | Widget | Wow ducati emptied really fast. |
| 01:57:34 | Widget | ski: Sure, a rematch? |
| 01:57:40 | ski | yeah |
| 01:57:54 | captain_proton | gaussian curves? |
| 01:57:59 | ski | is during the week 24:00utc ok? |
| 01:58:12 | patlabor221 | no I think just a regular decresing linar osolation |
| 01:58:26 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 01:58:43 | ski | maybe thursday? |
| 01:59:25 | Widget | We are usually here on Sundays. |
| 01:59:32 | Widget | 2400 UTC.... Hm... |
| 01:59:32 | ski | evenings? |
| 01:59:38 | Widget | That is very late for most of the members of the team. |
| 01:59:52 | Widget | Sniper is GMT+2, but he is on vacation. |
| 01:59:57 | Widget | jh and Ruudi are all GMT+3. |
| 02:00:01 | Widget | Which makes that 3 AM for them. |
| 02:00:06 | ski | ow |
| 02:00:25 | ski | hehe |
| 02:00:29 | ski | maybe a weekend then |
| 02:00:52 | ski | ill talk w/ the team and get back to ya |
| 02:01:00 | bryjen | patlabor221: that corkscrew-like effect ? |
| 02:01:04 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:01:05 | ski | maybe i can get some of us earlier |
| 02:01:08 | Widget | OK. |
| 02:01:12 | ski | cool |
| 02:01:14 | patlabor221 | but with the intermixing of a multiple launch |
| 02:01:25 | ski | cya all later! :) |
| 02:02:05 | bryjen | probly 'cause drawing the traveling in a straight line to their target is boring |
| 02:02:13 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:02:44 | patlabor221 | need to find an example of that do show cap |
| 02:03:15 | bryjen | hmmm |
| 02:03:21 | patlabor221 | tells cap to go out an see eposoded of macross |
| 02:03:34 | bryjen | imagines that effect on the 10-shot decks servers |
| 02:03:38 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you can send it to me on the 22nd |
| 02:03:59 | patlabor221 | if I had them in digital format |
| 02:04:08 | patlabor221 | got mac pluss somewhere tho |
| 02:05:06 | patlabor221 | cap: all those plane designs were from macross |
| 02:05:28 | patlabor221 | and those were the non variable ones |
| 02:07:42 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 02:08:02 | patlabor221 | cat girls in transforming mecha :) |
| 02:08:08 | patlabor221 | that will sell :) |
| 02:08:30 | captain_proton | heh |
| 02:08:37 | Widget | Wow... |
| 02:08:40 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 02:08:44 | Widget | I found the Communist Internationale in Chinese! |
| 02:08:45 | captain_proton | you want the character modelling job? |
| 02:08:48 | Widget | I only know the French version. |
| 02:09:01 | patlabor221 | I'm not the best modeler |
| 02:10:03 | patlabor221 | proabalby get some of the polycount people to do ittho |
| 02:11:40 | captain_proton | i know for sure i'll need a female about "20 yrs old" (not overly sexy), and a male about 15 or 16 |
| 02:13:03 | patlabor221 | they have a requests board there you can ask for it |
| 02:13:13 | patlabor221 | and I know how to read in the formats they are used to |
| 02:18:47 | captain_proton | oof |
| 02:18:56 | captain_proton | i'd forgotten how much code i had for this expression evaluation stuff |
| 02:38:44 | patlabor221 | time for homeness |
| 02:42:07 | Widget | A classic is something that everyone wants to have readand nobody wants to read.-- Mark Twain, "The Disappearance of Literature" |
| 03:08:39 | Patlabor221 | takes the one ring and in the darkness binds them...... then realises that it makes a prety crapy texture |
| 03:09:46 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/SplashLogo.png =D |
| 03:10:13 | Patlabor221 | spiffy |
| 03:10:26 | Patlabor221 | that inpiles that it's all planitary |
| 03:10:33 | captain_proton | Forgive me if this is the booze talking, but shall we go back to my jail and do ourselves? |
| 03:10:57 | Patlabor221 | umm I think that is the bozze there man |
| 03:11:09 | captain_proton | a friend of mine installed a program that generates pickup lines |
| 03:11:10 | captain_proton | :) |
| 03:11:15 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 03:11:28 | captain_proton | I know you don't know me, but that's a nice keister - you selling timeshares? |
| 03:11:39 | Patlabor221 | so you take yourPC top bars for refrence |
| 03:15:25 | Widget | Writing the Debian CD with XFS right now. |
| 03:15:42 | Patlabor221 | what is XFS and what makes it so cool? |
| 03:15:45 | Widget | I want to reformat my hard drive because my previous partitions were woefully inadequate. |
| 03:15:53 | Widget | And also, I want to downgrade to sarge. |
| 03:15:55 | captain_proton | XFS is the SGI high-performance filesystem |
| 03:16:00 | Widget | XFS is a journaling file system, and it's fast. |
| 03:16:06 | captain_proton | journalling, ACL's, fastest thing out there |
| 03:16:31 | Widget | In fact, it outperforms ext3 and ReiserFS at everything but deleting large numbers of files. |
| 03:16:44 | Widget | Yay. |
| 03:16:46 | Widget | All done. |
| 03:16:49 | Widget | That was fast. |
| 03:17:04 | Widget | Yes, I want to downgrade to sarge, and fix a lot of broken things with this install. |
| 03:17:12 | Patlabor221 | what is sarge? |
| 03:17:13 | Widget | So I decided it would be easier to start off from a clean slate. |
| 03:17:21 | Widget | sarge is the current testing branch of Debian. |
| 03:17:38 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 03:18:03 | Patlabor221 | I am unwize in the ways of things not windows |
| 03:20:41 | Widget | How can I find out how large each of my partitions are? |
| 03:20:59 | captain_proton | df -h |
| 03:33:07 | Widget | There are so many gripes that I want fixed when I reinstall everything. |
| 03:33:17 | Widget | Supporting the mouse wheel... |
| 03:33:26 | Widget | Full Euro support.... |
| 03:33:47 | Widget | Getting my USB printer to work with CUPS (isn't that what KDE uses?) |
| 03:34:03 | captain_proton | fj33rs this error |
| 03:34:10 | Widget | Which? |
| 03:34:26 | captain_proton | PanelManager.cpp:153: passing `const map<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,less<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > >,allocator<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > > >' as `this' argument of `class string & map<basic_string<char,string_char_tr |
| 03:34:27 | captain_proton | aits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,less<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > >,allocator<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > > >::operator [](const string &)' discards qualifiers |
| 03:35:17 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 03:35:24 | captain_proton | tomorrow i get my mouth cut open |
| 03:35:48 | Widget | Aua. |
| 03:35:49 | Widget | Why? |
| 03:36:10 | Widget | If you wrote code nicely and commented properly, the programming gods would smile upon you and you wouldn't get errors like this. |
| 03:36:21 | captain_proton | i fixed the error |
| 03:36:23 | captain_proton | had to kill a const |
| 03:36:27 | Widget | :( |
| 03:36:31 | captain_proton | wisdom teeth removal |
| 03:36:40 | Widget | Aua. |
| 03:36:48 | Widget | Where's your screenshot again? |
| 03:36:55 | captain_proton | screenshot of... |
| 03:37:01 | Widget | Your desktop. |
| 03:37:14 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/screenie.png or screenie2.png |
| 03:38:00 | captain_proton | BZFlag: timmy! i was beginning to think you had abandoned us |
| 03:38:23 | Widget | Hm... how do you get that terminal to be without decorations and just a siple square? And can you drop icons on that space? |
| 03:38:38 | captain_proton | um...i wrote it ;) |
| 03:38:42 | captain_proton | its part of the background itself |
| 03:38:45 | Widget | Oh. |
| 03:38:50 | Widget | But is it a working terminal? |
| 03:38:52 | captain_proton | almost |
| 03:38:57 | Widget | How, almost? |
| 03:39:16 | captain_proton | it doesn't fully support vt220 codes |
| 03:39:24 | Widget | Oh, you wrote the terminal? |
| 03:39:38 | captain_proton | yes |
| 03:39:47 | Widget | Wow. |
| 03:39:49 | captain_proton | some day once i get some more motivation i'll finish up the terminal |
| 03:40:01 | Widget | Do you usually open up a new terminal, or use the one on your desktop? |
| 03:40:40 | captain_proton | the one on the desktop is just meant for persistant notes |
| 03:40:51 | captain_proton | if it was fully functional i'd leave it in vim all the time |
| 03:41:08 | Widget | Persistent notes? |
| 03:41:08 | Widget | Ah. |
| 03:41:13 | Widget | That's very neat. |
| 03:41:21 | captain_proton | besides, its far too small to get any real work done in a terminal that size |
| 03:41:36 | Widget | So it's just for show? |
| 03:42:09 | captain_proton | well, as i said, for notes |
| 03:42:17 | captain_proton | like "buy more coke" |
| 03:42:20 | Widget | Ah. |
| 03:42:34 | Widget | Can you drag icons and leave it there? |
| 03:43:02 | captain_proton | no dragging icons |
| 03:43:06 | captain_proton | its all done through a config file |
| 03:43:18 | Widget | What is? |
| 03:43:22 | Widget | Oh. |
| 03:43:23 | captain_proton | the icons and layout |
| 03:43:25 | Widget | Drawing the icons? |
| 03:43:29 | Widget | So you can't drag the icons? |
| 03:43:43 | captain_proton | i wanted something fast, not something with useless (to me) features like dragging icons |
| 03:45:01 | Widget | How slowly do you think KDE 3 will run on a Pentium III 498.862 MHz with 122.68 MB RAM? |
| 03:45:18 | captain_proton | you might as well go out back and shoot yourself now |
| 03:45:35 | Widget | I compiled it and it runs quite quickly now. |
| 03:45:44 | Widget | But will it run significantly slower if I install it from packages? |
| 03:47:47 | captain_proton | likely so |
| 03:48:12 | Widget | Really? On Slashdot I have read that it really makes no difference. |
| 03:48:30 | Widget | And I noticed no speed gain when I started running the compiled version of Gaim from when I was running Gaim from packages. |
| 03:48:46 | captain_proton | gaim is a small app |
| 03:48:58 | Widget | Will Gnome run appreciably faster? |
| 03:49:03 | captain_proton | yes |
| 03:49:25 | Widget | Why? |
| 03:50:20 | captain_proton | because gnome is large enough that having it all compiled for your architecture will be noticible |
| 03:50:36 | Widget | No, no, I meant will Gnome be appreciably faster than KDE? |
| 03:50:43 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 03:50:47 | captain_proton | they're probably about the same |
| 03:51:09 | captain_proton | i just feel that KDE's interface is too dumbed-down for me |
| 03:51:36 | Widget | And Gnome's isn't? :) |
| 03:51:44 | Widget | GTK+ is nice though. |
| 03:51:44 | captain_proton | well |
| 03:51:47 | captain_proton | gnome programs aren't |
| 03:52:04 | Widget | Do you use GTK--? |
| 03:52:09 | captain_proton | nope |
| 03:52:21 | captain_proton | i just use plain gtk+ inside of C++ programs |
| 03:52:36 | captain_proton | once Inti is done i'll probably use that |
| 03:52:43 | Widget | What's inti? |
| 03:53:05 | captain_proton | an attempt to wrap gtk+ in C++ classes that actually reduces the amount of code |
| 03:53:13 | captain_proton | rather than GTK--, which increases the amount you have to write |
| 03:53:19 | jpablo | humm, i think inti is dead. |
| 03:53:35 | jpablo | havoc is not working on it anymore. |
| 03:54:37 | Widget | BZFlagIndia is in India? What time is it there, 10:30? |
| 03:54:59 | captain_proton | jpablo: hmm, sad |
| 03:55:05 | jpablo | yeah. |
| 03:55:19 | jpablo | anyway i'm going to bed. |
| 03:55:23 | Widget | jpablo: How slow would Gnome be from Debian packages.... |
| 03:55:27 | Widget | jp_zZz: Bye. |
| 03:58:14 | BZFlagIndia | Widget: yep. 10:34 |
| 03:59:09 | Widget | You're in Bombay right now? |
| 04:02:49 | BZFlagIndia | Bangalore |
| 04:27:49 | Widget | hihihi, mandy. |
| 04:28:13 | mandy | hihihi,widget |
| 05:01:50 | Widget | hihihi, mandy. |
| 05:05:03 | mandy | hihihi,widget |
| 05:08:06 | mandy | bleh |
| 05:13:55 | Widget | Bleh yourself. |
| 05:17:00 | mandy | Bleh yourself too |
| 05:25:13 | Widget | Bleh yourself too as well. |
| 05:27:32 | mandy | Grrrr |
| 05:27:38 | mandy | lol |
| 05:27:43 | mandy | Bleh bleh bleh |
| 05:40:40 | Widget | hihihi, akira_. |
| 05:40:41 | akira_ | moin |
| 05:40:49 | mandy | lol |
| 05:40:53 | akira_ | ah, one of the bzs :) |
| 05:41:01 | Widget | Ya. |
| 05:41:04 | Widget | You heard about the loops? |
| 05:41:16 | Widget | My, isn't akira_ up early to-day? |
| 05:41:33 | akira_ | yes and nope |
| 05:41:38 | akira_ | its 08:47 here |
| 05:42:01 | Widget | I know. |
| 05:42:09 | Widget | That's early for Europeans, according to Ruudi. |
| 05:42:18 | Widget | Who says no one gets up in Estonia until 11! |
| 05:42:23 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:42:26 | captain_proton | i don't get up until 1 |
| 05:42:34 | Widget | captain_proton is nocturnal. |
| 05:42:45 | captain_proton | at least until school starts and/or i get a job |
| 05:44:37 | Widget | sleeps about 4 hours a day, and wakes up at slight noises. |
| 05:44:41 | Widget | the insomniac. |
| 06:03:00 | Widget | Hm... |
| 06:03:04 | Widget | #bzflag quiz |
| 06:03:10 | Widget | What's your favourite book and movie? |
| 06:03:16 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:03:20 | mandy | hmm |
| 06:03:24 | captain_proton | favorite book: kafka's 'the trial' |
| 06:03:28 | captain_proton | favorite movie...dunno |
| 06:03:38 | Widget | I have not read that book. |
| 06:03:40 | Widget | But I should. |
| 06:03:44 | Widget | What sort of book is it? |
| 06:03:51 | mandy | book= In Harm's Way |
| 06:04:00 | captain_proton | fairly short novel |
| 06:04:16 | Widget | What genre? |
| 06:04:22 | mandy | fav movie of all time= Wizard of Oz |
| 06:04:24 | captain_proton | um...'kafka' ;) |
| 06:04:37 | mandy | best movie of all time |
| 06:04:40 | Widget | Ah. |
| 06:04:53 | Widget | Wizard of Oz concerns the gold standard, right? |
| 06:04:57 | captain_proton | bank executive gets arrested and goes through his entire trial trying to figure out what crime he's committed |
| 06:05:03 | Widget | It's pushing for the abolition of the gold standard? |
| 06:05:07 | captain_proton | ignore the man behind the curtain! |
| 06:05:17 | Widget | Since you have a yellow brick road that leads to a fake wizard... |
| 06:05:25 | Widget | But Dorothy's silver slippers take her home? |
| 06:05:35 | Widget | Support the Silver Standard! |
| 06:05:42 | Widget | Or so Frank Baum meant it. |
| 06:05:52 | Widget | But the movie changed the silver slippers to ruby ones! |
| 06:05:53 | captain_proton | the slippers weren't silver |
| 06:05:58 | Widget | Since it looked better on Technicolor. |
| 06:06:07 | captain_proton | true |
| 06:06:07 | Widget | captain_proton: In the book they were. |
| 06:06:24 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 06:06:30 | captain_proton | run to the library and score yourself a copy of the trial |
| 06:06:34 | Widget | My favourite book is Alice in Wonderland. |
| 06:07:02 | mandy | lmao |
| 06:07:11 | mandy | Thats a good movie too |
| 06:07:18 | Widget | I haven't seen the movie. |
| 06:07:22 | captain_proton | not really |
| 06:07:25 | captain_proton | the movie can't compare |
| 06:07:30 | Widget | I know. |
| 06:07:34 | mandy | Well i've never read the book |
| 06:07:34 | Widget | The book is just... great. |
| 06:07:38 | captain_proton | disney butchered it |
| 06:07:38 | Widget | You must. |
| 06:07:40 | mandy | So...yeah |
| 06:07:41 | Widget | And also the sequel. |
| 06:07:44 | Widget | Through the Looking Glass. |
| 06:07:48 | mandy | Maybe I will |
| 06:08:06 | captain_proton | Widget: ever played the game 'alice' ? |
| 06:08:15 | Widget | captain_proton: Nope. |
| 06:08:18 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 06:08:31 | captain_proton | find it and play (you'll need a win box to play it though) |
| 06:08:43 | captain_proton | its one of the better interpretations of the story that i've seen |
| 06:08:51 | Widget | Will it run under wine? |
| 06:08:51 | captain_proton | very dark |
| 06:09:02 | captain_proton | -possibly- winex |
| 06:09:13 | Widget | I can try Virtual PC. |
| 06:09:15 | Widget | On the Mac. |
| 06:09:36 | captain_proton | will that do accelerated 3d? |
| 06:11:14 | Widget | Yes, it should. |
| 06:11:29 | Widget | My favourite movie is Schindler's List. |
| 06:11:35 | Widget | That movie made me cry. |
| 06:12:08 | captain_proton | movies are hard to categorize |
| 06:12:21 | captain_proton | if i had to say favorite comedy, it would likely be "american astronaut" |
| 06:12:50 | Widget | Haven't seen it. |
| 06:14:03 | captain_proton | space western rock&roll musical |
| 06:15:05 | captain_proton | black and white artsy film |
| 06:41:24 | Widget | What sort of partitioning scheme do you reccoment for a 25 GB hard drive? |
| 06:41:30 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:41:33 | captain_proton | used as a mail server? |
| 06:41:38 | Widget | No. |
| 06:41:41 | Widget | As my computer. |
| 06:41:52 | captain_proton | well, some people run mail servers on their computers ;) |
| 06:41:59 | Widget | That's true. |
| 06:42:05 | Widget | But I get mail from hotmail. |
| 06:42:14 | Widget | Or I could get it from my ISP, ihug, but I don't. |
| 06:42:21 | captain_proton | 256mb for /var, 30mb for /boot, 2x your ram as swap, and the rest on / |
| 06:42:48 | Widget | I have 128 MB ram. |
| 06:42:55 | Widget | What is stored in /var? Just logs? |
| 06:42:56 | captain_proton | so 256mb for swap |
| 06:43:09 | captain_proton | logs, state files, pid files |
| 06:43:13 | Widget | Swap = /tmp? |
| 06:43:16 | captain_proton | named zone files if you swing that way |
| 06:43:17 | captain_proton | no |
| 06:43:19 | captain_proton | swap = swap |
| 06:43:21 | Widget | Oh. |
| 06:43:25 | Widget | Hm. |
| 06:43:32 | Widget | No separate /usr partition? |
| 06:43:37 | captain_proton | i don't see the need |
| 06:44:13 | captain_proton | i can see the benefit of sticking /home on a separate partition for production systems, but for a home box i usually just throw everything on one partition |
| 06:45:00 | Widget | Hm, yes. |
| 06:53:06 | Widget | We don't have any labs left in CS... but I'm scared to reformat my hard drive. |
| 06:53:11 | Widget | Things always go wrong with Linux. |
| 06:53:39 | captain_proton | is apparently a good linux support guy |
| 06:54:14 | Widget | captain_proton: Of course. |
| 06:54:14 | bomber | moin |
| 06:54:19 | Widget | Moin, bomber. |
| 06:54:37 | Widget | Es ist Morgen in Deutschland? |
| 06:54:47 | bomber | 10:03 |
| 06:55:30 | bomber | wie ist das Wetter in NZ ? |
| 06:55:52 | Widget | Es regnet. |
| 06:55:55 | Widget | akira_! |
| 06:56:39 | Widget | akira_ Rueckkehr. |
| 06:57:16 | akira_ | genau |
| 06:57:17 | Widget | bomber: In ich haerte dort bin Fluten Prag und Wien. |
| 06:57:24 | akira_ | hoerte |
| 06:57:32 | Widget | Er... hoerte, ja. |
| 06:57:40 | akira_ | dort waeren |
| 06:57:51 | akira_ | and "in" what? |
| 06:57:58 | akira_ | in tv . in radio .. |
| 06:58:04 | Widget | TV. |
| 06:58:05 | Widget | BBC. |
| 06:58:11 | akira_ | but the rest is ok :)) |
| 06:58:21 | bomber | Widget: auch bei uns in der Slowakei.... |
| 06:58:34 | Widget | Es regnete am Sonntag in Deutschland? |
| 06:58:47 | akira_ | jap |
| 06:59:03 | akira_ | bomber: du bist tscheche / slowake? |
| 06:59:11 | bomber | slowake |
| 06:59:38 | bomber | aber jetzt bin ich wieder in DE |
| 06:59:39 | Widget | bomber: Aber du wohnst in Frankfurt AM? |
| 06:59:50 | bomber | ja |
| 07:00:11 | Widget | Keine Fluten in DE? |
| 07:00:47 | Widget | Viele Tschechen und Slowaken wohnen in DE? |
| 07:00:48 | bomber | Passau |
| 07:01:04 | bomber | immer mehr und mehr ...:o) |
| 07:01:29 | Widget | Hm... keine Evakuierungen? |
| 07:01:42 | bomber | green card specialist |
| 07:01:59 | Widget | No evacuations in Germany? |
| 07:02:36 | akira_ | nope |
| 07:02:39 | Widget | Ah, das ist gut. |
| 07:02:48 | bomber | no...i think not...but in Austria its bad |
| 07:03:03 | Widget | Yes.... 6 people killed according to the BBC. |
| 07:03:09 | Widget | And people were evacuated from Prague. |
| 07:03:18 | Widget | And many historic districts flooded and perhaps damaged. |
| 07:03:32 | Widget | Metal Magic says it's raining heavily in Brno, but no floods there. |
| 07:04:32 | bomber | und jetzt wird die Flutwelle weiter gehen |
| 07:04:58 | bomber | Donau und Elbe werden kritisch sein |
| 07:05:08 | Widget | Was ist ein Flutwelle? |
| 07:05:19 | bomber | tsunami ...:o)) |
| 07:05:27 | Widget | Ah. |
| 07:06:00 | bomber | ok back to work... |
| 07:06:09 | Widget | Hm...... |
| 07:06:11 | Widget | Question: |
| 07:06:16 | bomber | ok |
| 07:06:29 | Widget | How come in the Deutschlandlied... it says "Von der Maas bis an die Memel"? |
| 07:06:39 | Widget | Germany does not extend to the Meuse (Maas), right? |
| 07:06:42 | akira_ | :) |
| 07:06:45 | akira_ | old times |
| 07:06:52 | Widget | Not even in old times. |
| 07:07:01 | Widget | The Meuse has always been within French territory. |
| 07:07:10 | akira_ | thats a political uncorrect version or verse in the song |
| 07:07:16 | Widget | Except for a few years in the 1940s. |
| 07:07:21 | akira_ | i mean .. the lyrics are from older days |
| 07:07:24 | Widget | And the Deutschlandlied is older than that. |
| 07:07:43 | akira_ | this verse wont be sung |
| 07:08:01 | Widget | But even when it was composed, the Meuse was in French territory. Germany has extended to the Belt and to the Adige (if you count Austria) and to the Memel... |
| 07:08:05 | Widget | But never to the Maas. |
| 07:08:16 | akira_ | old times |
| 07:08:26 | akira_ | ambitions etc |
| 07:08:29 | Widget | Oh, ja.. es ist verboten? |
| 07:08:56 | Widget | Die ersten zwei Verses (?). |
| 07:09:16 | akira_ | i think only first one |
| 07:09:21 | Widget | Oh. |
| 07:09:32 | Widget | But only the third one is sung? |
| 07:09:38 | Widget | On state occasions? |
| 07:09:38 | akira_ | yep |
| 07:10:03 | akira_ | http://www.brandenburghistorica.com/page5.html |
| 07:10:08 | Widget | strayer says the first two are forbidden.... it isn't allowed to even sing them within Germany. |
| 07:11:33 | akira_ | just read the stuff |
| 07:11:37 | akira_ | it explains everything |
| 07:12:25 | Widget | It's serious? The first verse is forbidden? |
| 07:12:31 | Widget | Illegal? |
| 07:12:42 | akira_ | think so |
| 07:14:40 | Widget | Does anyone still use Auferstanden aus Ruinen? |
| 07:14:49 | akira_ | nope |
| 07:14:54 | akira_ | but i think its the better song |
| 07:15:20 | Widget | Yes. Me too. :) |
| 07:15:26 | Widget | Well, I llike the lyrics better. |
| 07:15:53 | akira_ | the cool thing is, you could sing the one lyrics to the melody of the other |
| 07:15:58 | Widget | I know. |
| 07:16:01 | Widget | It mentioned that. |
| 07:16:15 | Widget | Does anyone do that? |
| 07:16:19 | akira_ | never understood, why the hell arent the both songs mixed together in 1989 |
| 07:16:26 | Widget | Oh, god, that's freaky. |
| 07:16:42 | Widget | It's because the GDR was absorbed into West Germany, not the other way around. :) |
| 07:17:46 | akira_ | i know .. i was there :)) |
| 07:18:02 | Widget | Were you on top of the Berlin Wall? |
| 07:19:43 | akira_ | nope |
| 07:19:56 | akira_ | at home at tv .. i was ... 12 or something like that |
| 07:20:00 | akira_ | 11 |
| 07:20:04 | akira_ | now i am 24 |
| 07:20:06 | Widget | Wow. |
| 07:20:10 | Widget | Very historic moment. :) |
| 07:20:10 | akira_ | then i was .. 11 |
| 07:20:15 | akira_ | i assume ... |
| 07:20:38 | Widget | Did you live in Magdeburg then too? |
| 07:21:02 | akira_ | very historic .. but the east germans had no backbone and no real selfesteem |
| 07:21:19 | akira_ | they kicked the old government to let theirself occupy from the next one ... |
| 07:21:39 | akira_ | spineless |
| 07:22:24 | Widget | Is that really bad? |
| 07:22:32 | akira_ | yep |
| 07:23:25 | Widget | Auferstanden aus Ruinen was written after WWII? |
| 07:23:34 | akira_ | Widget: yep |
| 07:23:35 | Widget | hihihi, bomber. |
| 07:23:42 | Widget | I thought so. |
| 07:23:51 | Widget | akira_: Were things better under the GDR? |
| 07:24:21 | akira_ | Widget: some |
| 07:24:23 | bomber | question: printing in OpenGL to Postscript |
| 07:24:26 | akira_ | but that was not the point |
| 07:24:31 | akira_ | bomber: www.opengl.org |
| 07:25:01 | akira_ | bomber: you only want to grab the screen? or really interpret the openglcalls to pscalls? |
| 07:25:23 | bomber | really interpret |
| 07:25:36 | akira_ | the search on www.opengl.org |
| 07:25:39 | akira_ | i read this once |
| 07:26:13 | bomber | i found GLP library but i have some problems to install it |
| 07:33:02 | Widget | Yay, I memorised it. |
| 07:33:13 | Widget | This is much better than the Deutschlandlied. |
| 07:33:16 | Widget | It is now on my playlist. |
| 07:58:37 | Widget | This was in the topic for #germany on EFNet... what does it concern? http://hbar.physik.uni-oldenburg.de/jens/text/jpg00026.jpg |
| 07:59:32 | Widget | German cows... uh.... go under? |
| 07:59:34 | Widget | What does that mean? |
| 08:01:48 | akira_ | ah ... what a crap |
| 08:01:51 | akira_ | cu .. gotto go |
| 08:33:01 | Widget | hihihi, MrCooper. |
| 08:37:29 | MrCooper | hi Widget |
| 10:11:03 | akira_ | moin |
| 11:30:02 | akira_ | tach |
| 11:40:45 | bomber | i tea |
| 11:40:47 | [TeA] | tach |
| 11:40:50 | bomber | hi |
| 11:40:54 | [TeA] | hihi |
| 11:41:04 | [TeA] | ich renovier dan mein haus weiter |
| 11:41:06 | [TeA] | bye |
| 11:45:36 | bz_doug | is away - 5 minute autoAWAY (SKiLLZ) |
| 11:45:36 | bz_doug | is away (5 minute autoAWAY (SKiLLZ)) @ Wed Aug 14 08:45:28 2002 - Pager is on. |
| 11:55:57 | bzdoug | wow |
| 11:56:04 | bzdoug | chanserv is dead |
| 12:01:20 | strayer | hi :) |
| 12:01:53 | akira_ | tach |
| 12:02:30 | strayer | hast Lust mir heut noch was beizubringen? |
| 12:03:07 | akira_ | worueber? |
| 12:04:05 | strayer | spielen |
| 12:04:18 | akira_ | ahso |
| 12:04:21 | akira_ | ne, grade arbeit |
| 12:04:26 | strayer | alles andre is mir wurst...komm naehmlich grad von Arbiet |
| 12:04:32 | akira_ | vielleicht in 2 stunden |
| 12:04:37 | strayer | oki... |
| 12:07:20 | Pinguin | Bomber? |
| 12:22:41 | | Pinguin: what? |
| 12:22:41 | Pinguin | ibot last seen bomber |
| 12:22:48 | | bomber was last seen on #bzflag 41 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying: hi [Wed Aug 14 12:40:50 2002] |
| 12:22:48 | Pinguin | ibot seen bomber |
| 12:38:37 | | bomber is experimenting with meshing algorithms (triangels) for bots!!! |
| 12:38:37 | Pinguin | ibot bomber |
| 12:42:32 | bomber | hi Pinguin |
| 12:43:34 | | Pinquin is a well dressed gent that can't spell |
| 12:43:34 | bomber | ibot Pinguin |
| 12:46:23 | akira_ | ? |
| 12:46:29 | akira_ | no comment |
| 12:50:57 | | akira_ is thinking about the way, the playernames could be displayed in observer/normal mode |
| 12:50:57 | bzdoug | ibot akira_? |
| 12:51:06 | bzdoug | yes |
| 12:51:56 | bzdoug | akira_: where is the chestal-akira bzflag binary? |
| 12:52:01 | bzdoug | the patched one |
| 12:52:44 | | 1.7e7m is at http://www.wirrehomepage.de -> files -> bzflag |
| 12:52:44 | Chestal | ibot, 1.7e7m |
| 12:53:17 | bzdoug | thanks |
| 12:56:24 | akira_ | HAR |
| 12:56:27 | akira_ | grooooovy :)) |
| 12:56:41 | akira_ | thats nice chestal :) |
| 12:58:53 | jpablo | morning. |
| 12:59:21 | strayer | hi jpablo... |
| 13:01:16 | jpablo | hey strayer. |
| 13:23:10 | Pinguin | bomber? |
| 13:23:42 | akira_ | strayer: heute wirds nix mehr ... |
| 13:23:47 | akira_ | vielleicht next weekend |
| 13:23:58 | akira_ | bye all |
| 13:25:23 | bomber | Pinguin |
| 13:44:52 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:44:52 | jpablo | ibot: ducati ? |
| 13:44:54 | bzbot | short timer (R): 6 (12-6). T-34 (G): -2 (16-18). bomber (penguins) (R): 18 (42-24). Gercha, Mr Dawg (R): 1 (3-2). rm -r (R): -2 (12-14). tankity-tank-tank (G): -3 (3-6). egg (G): 0 (6-6). |
| 14:31:25 | strayer | pinguin? |
| 14:32:10 | Pinguin | Yes? |
| 14:32:24 | Widget | Pinguin! |
| 14:32:25 | Widget | strayer! |
| 14:32:29 | strayer | hi widget |
| 14:33:02 | strayer | Pinguin: would U tell me Ur playing-nick? |
| 14:33:23 | Pinguin | strayer: My playing nick is Pinguin ... |
| 14:33:45 | strayer | hm... |
| 14:33:57 | Widget | strayer: I learned a new song a few hours ago. |
| 14:34:04 | Pinguin | is confused |
| 14:34:11 | Widget | strayer: Auferstanden aus Ruinen. :) |
| 14:34:29 | strayer | Widget: das ist schon lange her... |
| 14:34:46 | strayer | Pinguin: sry...my fault...i was confused..hehe |
| 14:35:07 | Pinguin | Maybe because i was a long time not playing ... |
| 14:35:30 | strayer | possible....why not? |
| 14:35:37 | Widget | strayer: I read there were proposals to combine the anthems.... why did they not do it in the end? |
| 14:37:48 | strayer | ?...they did... |
| 14:38:15 | strayer | i mean they finished this one... |
| 14:38:47 | Widget | They didn't, but akira showed me a website that sais they were going to combine the Deutschlandlied and Auferstanden aus Ruinen. |
| 14:39:10 | Widget | How do you say "typo" in German? |
| 14:39:47 | strayer | typo...is this a mistake in typing? |
| 14:39:51 | Widget | Yes. |
| 14:39:54 | Widget | Typing mistake. |
| 14:40:02 | strayer | german: Tippfehler |
| 14:40:42 | Widget | Ah, thanks. |
| 14:40:46 | strayer | now i know what U were meaning with Ur question... |
| 14:41:13 | Widget | Auferstanden aus Ruinen... |
| 14:41:20 | strayer | i think its stupid to combine the 2 anthems..... |
| 14:41:21 | Widget | und der Zukunft zugewandt |
| 14:41:45 | Widget | strayer: Well, Auferstanden aus Ruinen can be sung to the tune of the Deutschlandlied, right? |
| 14:41:55 | strayer | right... |
| 14:42:09 | Widget | So that would make it easier to combine.. |
| 14:42:31 | strayer | hm...but that doesnt match i think... |
| 14:42:39 | Widget | What doesn't? |
| 14:43:15 | strayer | hm...every text is cosed in itsself... |
| 14:43:31 | Widget | Auferstanden aus Ruinen fits the music of the Deutschlandlied perfectly. |
| 14:43:39 | strayer | and? |
| 14:43:50 | Widget | Just add it on. |
| 14:44:19 | strayer | U mean one text with the other tune? |
| 14:44:25 | Widget | Ya. |
| 14:44:28 | Widget | Lass uns dir zum Guten dienen |
| 14:44:34 | Widget | Deutschland, einig Vaterland... |
| 14:44:38 | strayer | hm...no |
| 14:45:09 | strayer | i would prefer one or the other...not both mixed |
| 14:45:40 | Widget | I like Auferstanden aus Ruinen, but das Deutschlandlied was the original. |
| 14:45:59 | Widget | So I suppose it should have been the one selected. |
| 14:46:31 | strayer | hm...dunno.... |
| 15:07:32 | strayer_ | widget? |
| 15:24:54 | Cell_prog_insect | puh i done my 3d max to my xml format world map exporter, that was a hard piece of work, but now i can build new maps at light speed |
| 15:36:05 | patlabor221 | wow maps at the speed of light, how does he see them? |
| 15:38:24 | vincent | linux user here???? |
| 15:39:13 | vincent | WAKE UP!!!! sorry for yelling |
| 15:39:35 | vincent | not all at the same time please!! |
| 15:39:41 | jpablo | uh? |
| 15:39:56 | vincent | there s something alive |
| 15:40:00 | vincent | hi! |
| 15:40:55 | vincent | pablo> not a linux user i suppose? |
| 15:41:20 | jpablo | i'm a linux user. |
| 15:41:36 | vincent | using kde 3? |
| 15:41:43 | jpablo | hell no. |
| 15:42:05 | vincent | why not and what are u using |
| 15:45:05 | Chestal | I am not using kde either |
| 15:45:16 | vincent | hmm |
| 15:45:52 | vincent | what, is it bad or what, like it, only one anoying thing. |
| 15:47:15 | vincent | some assistant popping up each login, asking for some prefferences, but think giving info once is enough |
| 15:51:42 | Chestal | hmm, I have no idea, sorry |
| 15:51:53 | Chestal | I am a more of a hardcore Unix user, no fancie desktops forme |
| 15:53:13 | patlabor221 | I have KDe 3 here and it runs fine |
| 15:54:25 | Pinguin | first guess would be: Disk full or no write permissions ... kde cannot store and askes very often |
| 15:57:06 | vincent | disk not full at all so write permissions most likely. |
| 15:57:20 | patlabor221 | what is it asking for? |
| 15:58:13 | vincent | animation speed, which style desktop etc |
| 15:58:37 | vincent | language! |
| 15:58:41 | patlabor221 | hmm that's all the first time run stuff |
| 15:58:47 | vincent | yep |
| 15:58:58 | patlabor221 | are you loging in as a real user? |
| 15:59:26 | vincent | yeah but have the same stuff with root |
| 15:59:38 | Pinguin | start new, take an terminal and type "ps axu", identify the programm and start it by hand in terminal => watch error messages is terminal ... |
| 15:59:46 | patlabor221 | hmmm, then it has to be something with the home dirs |
| 16:00:59 | vincent | pretty new with linux so haven t got a clue, works great only this thing after i upgrade kde2 |
| 16:01:24 | patlabor221 | oh, well I started with 3 |
| 16:01:30 | patlabor221 | came with the redhat |
| 16:02:16 | vincent | got redhat 7.3 to but not using it now |
| 16:02:42 | vincent | there s a kde3 included i noticed |
| 16:03:14 | vincent | but i got Mandrake 8.2 before the 3 release |
| 16:03:40 | vincent | like Mandreke the most |
| 16:03:48 | vincent | Mandrake offcourse |
| 16:04:30 | patlabor221 | tries to figure out SDL sound |
| 16:06:44 | vincent | pretty idiot proof ;-) |
| 16:08:36 | patlabor221 | yeah but it's not very well set up |
| 16:08:50 | patlabor221 | no way to preload the samples that I can see |
| 16:08:55 | vincent | meaning, what isnt? |
| 16:09:32 | patlabor221 | ahh there is is |
| 16:09:45 | vincent | huh can t follow you on the preload think |
| 16:09:48 | vincent | thing |
| 16:10:23 | patlabor221 | my sound class preloads all samples |
| 16:10:36 | patlabor221 | then plays them when needed |
| 16:10:47 | patlabor221 | multiple times if needed |
| 16:11:03 | vincent | ok |
| 16:11:27 | patlabor221 | just gor confused, they don't have a "play" function |
| 16:11:27 | strayer_away | vincent: hi |
| 16:11:31 | vincent | anyway i hate this pop up :-( |
| 16:11:36 | patlabor221 | jsut a decode |
| 16:11:38 | vincent | hi strayer |
| 16:13:28 | vincent | patlabor221> don t know much bout linux, but i now it s a lot less total crash |
| 16:14:26 | strayer | hm...my windows crashes only 2 times a month...maximum |
| 16:15:00 | vincent | mine at that time 10 times a day at least |
| 16:15:17 | patlabor221 | then you got something messed up man |
| 16:15:24 | strayer | bad configured maybe :) |
| 16:15:24 | patlabor221 | or you are running a 9x base |
| 16:15:30 | vincent | i know i was rough to him but |
| 16:15:55 | vincent | liked 98se the most 2000pro (yak) |
| 16:16:08 | patlabor221 | 98x is crap |
| 16:16:17 | patlabor221 | not evern a 32 bit kernel |
| 16:16:25 | strayer | xp well-configured is cool |
| 16:16:27 | patlabor221 | no real mem manangment |
| 16:16:38 | patlabor221 | 2k pro works well too |
| 16:16:40 | strayer | jep...pat is right |
| 16:17:03 | vincent | not witch me behind the machine |
| 16:17:10 | vincent | with |
| 16:17:16 | patlabor221 | well don't go fugin with is |
| 16:17:20 | patlabor221 | it not is |
| 16:17:54 | patlabor221 | in XP I don't crash, unless my app realy realy realy realy messes something up |
| 16:18:14 | patlabor221 | and for that I have to try reather hard |
| 16:18:26 | strayer | jep |
| 16:18:52 | vincent | ok so you like windows, got the message :) |
| 16:19:03 | strayer | hehe.... |
| 16:19:07 | patlabor221 | I like things about lin an win |
| 16:20:10 | patlabor221 | hmm lets take a look at SDL mixer |
| 16:20:12 | vincent | did that to, and still, but can t have more then one machine in this chicken cage |
| 16:20:16 | strayer | for me linux is better used for servers and real workstations |
| 16:20:57 | vincent | and mutple system isn tnice either |
| 16:21:04 | vincent | multiplr |
| 16:21:12 | vincent | darn you know |
| 16:21:20 | strayer | hehe...yep.. |
| 16:22:12 | patlabor221 | damnit mixer dosn't do oogs |
| 16:22:49 | vincent | open the window and through it out!! |
| 16:23:02 | patlabor221 | it's a piece of code |
| 16:23:10 | vincent | solves things most times |
| 16:23:10 | patlabor221 | it can't be thrown |
| 16:23:17 | patlabor221 | all it is is magnetic fields |
| 16:23:32 | vincent | meant the whole thing |
| 16:23:45 | vincent | just kidding |
| 16:23:45 | patlabor221 | the computer, not bloddy well likely |
| 16:24:01 | patlabor221 | it's got my GF4 in it |
| 16:24:20 | patlabor221 | bzdoug: you dicide on your mobo yet? |
| 16:32:35 | jp_school | i'm off. |
| 17:35:14 | Risolino | hallo |
| 17:35:21 | Risolino | some probs in freebsd |
| 17:35:28 | Risolino | it doesn't compile |
| 17:56:56 | vincent | strayer |
| 17:59:32 | vincent | hela hola adios |
| 18:00:36 | Widget | ¡Hola, vincent? |
| 18:00:39 | Widget | ! |
| 18:00:47 | vincent | hola |
| 18:01:07 | vincent | what s happening |
| 18:01:16 | Widget | Nothing. |
| 18:01:29 | vincent | hmmm |
| 18:01:34 | vincent | remember me? |
| 18:01:58 | Widget | Jep. |
| 18:02:05 | vincent | huh how |
| 18:02:12 | vincent | used another name |
| 18:02:25 | Widget | kbl-gs6085.zeelandnet.nl |
| 18:02:50 | vincent | ao yeah right, what was i thinkink |
| 18:03:21 | vincent | little diffuculty finding the wright keys |
| 18:03:32 | vincent | difficulty |
| 18:03:45 | vincent | wanna chat |
| 18:03:54 | strayer | ... |
| 18:09:32 | metal_magic | word of the day: malaria? hm, strange. |
| 18:09:57 | Widget | hihihihi, metal_magic. |
| 18:10:08 | Widget | Wenn ir bruederlich uns einen |
| 18:10:14 | Widget | Schlagen wir des Volkes feind.... |
| 18:10:28 | strayer | kannst es nicht lassen, oder Widget? |
| 18:10:45 | metal_magic | Widget: listen, you are always laughing ... :-) |
| 18:10:55 | metal_magic | ibot: x de en Wenn ir bruederlich uns einen |
| 18:10:57 | | metal_magic: If IR like brothers us one |
| 18:11:17 | metal_magic | ibot: x de en Wenn ir bruederlich uns einen Schlagen wir des Volkes feind |
| 18:11:19 | | metal_magic: If IR like brothers us striking we the people enemy |
| 18:11:27 | Widget | Wot¡s wenn wir. |
| 18:11:30 | Widget | Typo. |
| 18:11:35 | strayer | bad translation |
| 18:11:47 | Widget | ibot x de en Wenn wir bruederlich uns einen, Schlagen wir des Volkes feind. |
| 18:11:50 | | Widget: If we like brothers us one, striking we the people enemy. |
| 18:11:52 | metal_magic | ibot: x de en Wenn wir bruederlich uns einen Schlagen wir des Volkes feind |
| 18:11:57 | | metal_magic: If we like brothers us striking we the people enemy |
| 18:12:19 | freelancer | hi all |
| 18:12:23 | vincent | alsof mij het wat interesseerd |
| 18:12:24 | metal_magic | ibot: x de en kannst es nicht lassen, oder Widget? |
| 18:12:36 | | metal_magic: can't it leave, or Widget? |
| 18:12:38 | strayer | freelancer: hi |
| 18:12:57 | metal_magic | hm, stejne tomu nerozumim |
| 18:13:18 | Widget | nerozumim = I don't understand? |
| 18:13:24 | metal_magic | yeah |
| 18:13:26 | vincent | hi |
| 18:13:31 | Widget | hihihi, vincent. |
| 18:13:36 | freelancer | hi |
| 18:13:48 | vincent | metal you don t understand |
| 18:13:56 | vincent | but i understand you |
| 18:14:21 | vincent | hmm phone |
| 18:14:31 | metal_magic | ich verstehe den deutschen satze nicht |
| 18:14:41 | | no idea, freelancer |
| 18:14:41 | freelancer | ibot have you seen Captain Proton? |
| 18:14:53 | | captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 11 hours, 21 minutes and 14 seconds ago, saying: is apparently a good linux support guy [Wed Aug 14 07:53:39 2002] |
| 18:14:53 | metal_magic | ibot: seen captain_proton |
| 18:15:30 | metal_magic | vincent: you understand czech? |
| 18:15:47 | freelancer | thnxhi Captain get my message |
| 18:16:12 | strayer | metal_magic: no vincent doesn't |
| 18:16:19 | vincent | no but understand bit slavisch like russian polan and kroatian |
| 18:16:27 | metal_magic | ah |
| 18:16:54 | captain_proton | freelancer: don't think so |
| 18:16:59 | vincent | pitsk ti matterna |
| 18:17:11 | freelancer | check your bzmessages |
| 18:17:20 | metal_magic | vincent: eh? |
| 18:18:08 | vincent | razumis i dont now to write them well and offcourse there is a difference |
| 18:18:14 | metal_magic | is sawfish better than window maker? |
| 18:18:31 | vincent | dunno |
| 18:18:42 | vincent | necer used either one |
| 18:18:47 | vincent | never |
| 18:19:03 | captain_proton | freelancer: hmm, saturday may not work terribly well |
| 18:19:18 | captain_proton | i will likely be here, but drugged |
| 18:19:32 | metal_magic | uff irix :-) |
| 18:19:38 | freelancer | no problem just letting you know when i;ll be around |
| 18:19:48 | vincent | shake hands (captain_proton) |
| 18:20:10 | metal_magic | wow 2.4.19 |
| 18:20:46 | metal_magic | uff, perl client |
| 18:21:23 | vincent | don t have a clue which kernel i m running from ;-) |
| 18:21:42 | vincent | it just works |
| 18:23:06 | metal_magic | well, i am going to try sawfish ... |
| 18:23:15 | freelancer | bye all have to go and take care of something be back in a couple of hours |
| 18:23:35 | metal_magic | bye freelancer |
| 18:23:35 | vincent | ciao |
| 18:49:47 | Widget | Wilhelmus van Nassouwe... |
| 18:49:55 | Widget | ben ick van Duytschen bloedt. |
| 18:50:31 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 18:56:20 | Widget | What does "steigt ein frei Geschlecht empor" mean? |
| 18:56:24 | captain_proton | wtf? freenode? what kind of name is that? |
| 18:56:48 | Chestal | Widget: uhm, that's old language |
| 18:56:59 | Widget | Oh. |
| 18:57:26 | Chestal | Widget: somethign like '... ascends a free gender' |
| 18:57:36 | Chestal | sounds liek it is from an odl poem or soemthing |
| 18:57:36 | Widget | But it was composed in 1949... was it written to sound old? |
| 18:57:54 | Widget | It's from 'Auferstanden aus Ruinen'. |
| 18:58:02 | Chestal | ah, I got it as .ogg here :-) |
| 18:58:11 | Chestal | well, it's made to sound "big" |
| 18:58:16 | strayer | jep |
| 18:58:25 | Widget | Ah, they aimed for an archaic style? |
| 18:58:49 | Widget | Where do you manage to find oggs? I found an mp3, but oggs are rare on the internet. |
| 18:59:03 | Chestal | I converted an mp3 to ogg :-| |
| 18:59:15 | Widget | Oh. :) What's the point of that? |
| 18:59:44 | captain_proton | smaller file size perhaps |
| 19:00:07 | Chestal | yes, smaller file size |
| 19:00:09 | Widget | But will it lower quality? |
| 19:00:15 | Chestal | and ideological reasons |
| 19:00:17 | captain_proton | same quality if you encode from mp3 |
| 19:00:22 | Widget | Ah. |
| 19:00:26 | Widget | What did you use to convert? |
| 19:00:27 | captain_proton | which isn't saying much |
| 19:00:39 | strayer | Chestal: ideological?...why? |
| 19:00:44 | Widget | Patents? |
| 19:00:47 | Chestal | strayer: because ogg is free and better |
| 19:01:03 | strayer | its quite newer of course |
| 19:01:16 | strayer | so it should be better... |
| 19:01:35 | Widget | What do you use to convert from mp3 to ogg? |
| 19:01:35 | Chestal | yes, but ogg will have a hard time |
| 19:01:42 | Chestal | because everyoen is using mp3 |
| 19:01:55 | Widget | Chestal will single handedly bring about the ogg revolution. :) |
| 19:01:55 | Chestal | widget: mpg321 | oggenv |
| 19:02:10 | strayer | but isn't ogg not also planned vor movies? |
| 19:02:36 | Widget | BZFlag uses oggs! |
| 19:02:45 | Chestal | I always get the terms mixued up |
| 19:02:46 | Widget | So when BZFlag takes over the world... |
| 19:02:49 | Widget | Everyone will use oggs. |
| 19:02:51 | Chestal | part of the technology is the contsainer format |
| 19:02:57 | Chestal | the other is the audio compression |
| 19:03:08 | strayer | aha |
| 19:03:10 | Chestal | and I think they are workign on video compression, too |
| 19:03:16 | Widget | Really? |
| 19:03:17 | strayer | ok |
| 19:03:24 | Chestal | and then there already are other codecs which plan to use the ogg container |
| 19:04:08 | Widget | Wait, what is oggenv? |
| 19:04:24 | Chestal | a typo |
| 19:04:26 | Chestal | oggenc |
| 19:04:27 | Widget | Oh. |
| 19:04:34 | Widget | Oh, I see. |
| 19:04:37 | Widget | Thanks. |
| 19:04:43 | Chestal | mpg321 -q -w - "$1" | oggenc -Q - -o "`basename "$1" mp3`ogg" |
| 19:05:40 | Chestal | well, I'll gohome I think, cu |
| 19:05:59 | Widget | See you. |
| 19:08:28 | mandy | Hi people |
| 19:08:33 | Widget | hihihi |
| 19:08:43 | mandy | hihihi |
| 19:09:06 | Widget | hihihi, metal_magic. |
| 19:09:12 | metal_magic | well, tried sawfish ... |
| 19:09:35 | metal_magic | i thought it to be better |
| 19:10:17 | mandy | hmm |
| 19:11:06 | metal_magic | think i'll keep my window maker |
| 19:13:49 | Widget | But Window Maker is _ugly_. |
| 19:13:55 | metal_magic | huh |
| 19:13:58 | metal_magic | it isn't |
| 19:14:24 | mandy | hmm |
| 19:15:34 | mandy | strayer get your ass back here |
| 19:16:12 | captain_proton | 'lo patlabor221 |
| 19:16:23 | patlabor221 | lo |
| 19:16:40 | patlabor221 | I am not liking SDL_Sound |
| 19:16:50 | captain_proton | whyso |
| 19:17:03 | patlabor221 | just seems funky |
| 19:17:21 | patlabor221 | seems it more designed for , Open a file and play it, kind of things |
| 19:17:28 | captain_proton | ah |
| 19:20:25 | captain_proton | panel manager is starting to actually look like a worthwhile piece of code |
| 19:20:49 | patlabor221 | very nice |
| 19:21:00 | patlabor221 | I need to hook the particle system up into it |
| 19:21:48 | captain_proton | i'm thinking of just handing the panel manager a callback for swirly stuff |
| 19:22:26 | patlabor221 | shouldn't be a need for that |
| 19:22:33 | metal_magic | well tell me, is window maker ugly?: http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/~xkolaja/tmp/wmaker.jpeg |
| 19:22:50 | patlabor221 | just call the pannel manager after the current BG scence draws |
| 19:22:59 | patlabor221 | so that it can go ontop of anything |
| 19:23:09 | Widget | metal_magic: Ick. |
| 19:23:31 | Widget | metal_magic: ;) |
| 19:23:31 | captain_proton | metal_magic: yes, its ugly |
| 19:23:42 | metal_magic | no no no, window maker is great |
| 19:23:46 | metal_magic | ! |
| 19:23:47 | patlabor221 | that is a lot of buttons |
| 19:24:04 | mandy | ok brb |
| 19:24:26 | Widget | Are mp3s and oggs lossy? |
| 19:24:31 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:24:34 | metal_magic | yes, they are |
| 19:24:36 | Widget | Then how come..... |
| 19:24:44 | Widget | captain_proton said that if you convert an mp3 to an ogg... |
| 19:24:45 | patlabor221 | but usualy it's not perceptibal unless you go too low |
| 19:24:54 | patlabor221 | ogg is better then MP3 |
| 19:25:00 | patlabor221 | oog sorry |
| 19:25:01 | Widget | The ogg won't be lower quality than the mp3? |
| 19:25:27 | patlabor221 | cus oog is less lossy then mp3 |
| 19:25:42 | metal_magic | this is not oog but ogg |
| 19:25:45 | captain_proton | if you do a conversion at the same bitrate as the mp3, you'll get a smaller file without any additional loss |
| 19:25:54 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:26:07 | metal_magic | ogg is better |
| 19:26:14 | metal_magic | and has better license :-) |
| 19:26:15 | patlabor221 | mp3s converted sound worse then ogg right from the uncompresses source too |
| 19:26:33 | captain_proton | xpenguins! |
| 19:26:45 | metal_magic | what with them? |
| 19:26:48 | metal_magic | they are cool |
| 19:28:00 | captain_proton | i remember hacking in additional actions for it :) |
| 19:28:03 | captain_proton | a looong time ago |
| 19:28:51 | metal_magic | :-) |
| 19:29:17 | metal_magic | what wm do you use? |
| 19:29:21 | captain_proton | sawfish |
| 19:29:46 | metal_magic | hm, i tried it a moment ago ... |
| 19:29:50 | metal_magic | ... but ... |
| 19:30:00 | metal_magic | i did't like it |
| 19:30:08 | captain_proton | what didn't you like? |
| 19:30:15 | captain_proton | everything is super-customizable |
| 19:30:17 | metal_magic | maybe i am unable to configure it |
| 19:30:23 | patlabor221 | that it is |
| 19:30:24 | captain_proton | try running sawfish-ui |
| 19:30:37 | metal_magic | i ran sawfish |
| 19:30:42 | metal_magic | whats the differnce? |
| 19:30:53 | captain_proton | metal_magic: sawfish-ui is the config utility |
| 19:31:01 | metal_magic | ah |
| 19:31:28 | metal_magic | i think i tried it |
| 19:31:46 | metal_magic | a friend of mine told me it is super-customizable |
| 19:31:52 | metal_magic | so i wanted to try it |
| 19:31:58 | captain_proton | and if you find something you can't change through there, everything is written in lisp, so you can hack at it easily |
| 19:32:18 | metal_magic | but with that configuration utility is not possible configure more than in window maker |
| 19:32:37 | metal_magic | i guess window maker is very flexible too |
| 19:33:43 | metal_magic | but some things i don't like |
| 19:34:33 | metal_magic | i am very demanding on my wm |
| 19:35:19 | metal_magic | but cannot believe some can say window maker is ugly |
| 19:35:26 | metal_magic | fvwm is ugly :-) |
| 19:35:46 | captain_proton | in the grand scheme of things, window maker is ugly ;) |
| 19:36:29 | Widget | How do you change your Window Manager? |
| 19:36:37 | Widget | Edit the .xsession? |
| 19:36:39 | metal_magic | vim .xsession |
| 19:36:42 | Widget | ~/.xsession |
| 19:36:44 | Widget | ? |
| 19:36:53 | Widget | But that's only if you're using xdm, right? |
| 19:36:58 | captain_proton | or startx |
| 19:37:01 | metal_magic | no |
| 19:37:12 | Widget | What if you're using kdm? |
| 19:37:13 | metal_magic | xdm, gdm, kdm and so on |
| 19:37:20 | Widget | Oh, all of them use .xsession? |
| 19:37:21 | captain_proton | gdm uses its own session handling |
| 19:37:22 | metal_magic | i am using kdm at home |
| 19:37:31 | metal_magic | and gdm at school |
| 19:37:39 | metal_magic | i use .xsession too |
| 19:38:27 | metal_magic | in gdm you find in the menu |
| 19:38:27 | Widget | The older versions of X use .xinitrc ? |
| 19:38:38 | metal_magic | .xinitrc is used by startx |
| 19:38:48 | metal_magic | startx doesnt use .xsession |
| 19:38:48 | captain_proton | ahh yes thats it |
| 19:38:49 | captain_proton | :P |
| 19:39:08 | Widget | See! I told you! |
| 19:39:09 | metal_magic | in kdm ... i don't remember, but it is possible too |
| 19:39:10 | Widget | I told yoU! |
| 19:39:11 | Widget | I told you! |
| 19:39:21 | metal_magic | told what??? |
| 19:39:39 | mandy | i told you too |
| 19:39:44 | mandy | :oP |
| 19:39:49 | mandy | :P |
| 19:39:52 | mandy | even |
| 19:39:54 | mandy | lol |
| 19:39:59 | metal_magic | can anyone explain me WHAT? |
| 19:40:07 | Widget | Oh, by "that's only if you're using xdm" I meant "not if you're using startx". |
| 19:40:47 | metal_magic | yes, but i have .xinitrc as a symbolic link to .xsession :-) |
| 19:41:05 | Widget | Clever, clever. |
| 19:41:20 | metal_magic | yes i am, hahahahahaha :-) |
| 19:41:25 | Widget | kdm uses the .xsession as well? |
| 19:41:42 | metal_magic | in some way it does, but cannot remember how |
| 19:41:57 | Widget | I thought you could change between Window Managers in the control centre. |
| 19:41:59 | metal_magic | i think if you have .xsession, it uses it |
| 19:42:12 | metal_magic | if you don't have it runs KDE or something |
| 19:43:36 | Widget | Is there any way to pick what desktop environment you want at the kdm login window? |
| 19:43:51 | Widget | Or choose a Window Manager without a desktop environment? |
| 19:44:01 | jzaun | Widget: use gdm :-) |
| 19:44:25 | jzaun | gdm is better :-) |
| 19:44:32 | Widget | It tries to install this ugly thing called Gnome though, when I get it from Debian. |
| 19:44:36 | Widget | Well, no it doesn't. |
| 19:44:40 | Widget | But it tries to! |
| 19:45:26 | jzaun | Gnome is 1000 times better than KDE |
| 19:45:38 | jzaun | :-P |
| 19:45:44 | Widget | Why? I don't see that much or a marked improvement in either. |
| 19:45:46 | Widget | Oh, no. |
| 19:45:50 | Widget | It's KDE vs. Gnome again? |
| 19:46:24 | jzaun | well KDE is slow on my dual 500Mhz system |
| 19:46:39 | jzaun | Gnome is very nice, and I like the way I have mine setup to look |
| 19:46:45 | iLLf8d | jzaun: you gotta build it properly |
| 19:46:51 | jzaun | KDE is very good for people coming from Windows though |
| 19:46:51 | Widget | But it's quite fast on my single processor 500 MHz computer. |
| 19:46:57 | Widget | Just turn off the visual goodies. |
| 19:47:00 | iLLf8d | in freebsd and on my debian box kde was ok |
| 19:47:04 | iLLf8d | 500k6-2 non dual |
| 19:47:06 | iLLf8d | tho I hate it |
| 19:47:09 | iLLf8d | the speed was decent |
| 19:47:23 | iLLf8d | only issue I had was populating the file dialogs |
| 19:47:26 | iLLf8d | those were slow as shit |
| 19:47:54 | jzaun | heh GNOME2 is speedy for me |
| 19:47:57 | iLLf8d | lo jz and widge |
| 19:48:04 | Widget | hihihi, iLLf8d. |
| 19:48:12 | jzaun | hey iLLf8d |
| 19:48:12 | metal_magic | do you know, what i like on bzflag here? |
| 19:48:14 | iLLf8d | I can't get into either gnome or kde |
| 19:48:16 | iLLf8d | dunno why |
| 19:48:25 | metal_magic | huh, not like but LOVE :-) |
| 19:48:39 | metal_magic | many people here uses Debian |
| 19:49:49 | iLLf8d | I like how troublefree and easily configured fluxbox and bb are |
| 19:50:12 | jzaun | I like E, used it originally when I first came to Linux |
| 19:50:16 | iLLf8d | tho the last time I used kde I could see why ms is getting nervous |
| 19:50:22 | iLLf8d | E? ewww |
| 19:50:29 | iLLf8d | I can't stand E |
| 19:50:35 | Widget | So... slow. |
| 19:50:43 | Widget | So... trying to be a desktop environment... |
| 19:50:44 | Widget | And failing. |
| 19:50:45 | jzaun | Its a little expensive in PA though, much cheeper in Hawaii |
| 19:50:48 | captain_proton | i liked E at first |
| 19:50:54 | iLLf8d | actually the speed would get to me it was the 5billion configuration options |
| 19:50:56 | captain_proton | then i realized a window manager need not take 15 seconds to start |
| 19:50:58 | iLLf8d | thats the part I didn't like |
| 19:52:06 | anaconda | Widget: who says they are failing with E17? |
| 19:52:10 | jzaun | heh, E takes about 10 min. to kick in for me... where you get your E iLLf8d? |
| 19:53:36 | metal_magic | what is E? |
| 19:53:41 | jzaun | oh, ok so noone got my joke :-( |
| 19:53:50 | anaconda | enlightenment window manager |
| 19:53:52 | jzaun | E = a drug or a window manager |
| 19:54:02 | metal_magic | ah, enlightenment |
| 19:54:09 | metal_magic | yeah it is hardcore :-) |
| 19:54:47 | metal_magic | but if you have such a machine i am sitting on now, you can run E :-) |
| 19:55:23 | jzaun | What you sitting on? |
| 19:55:56 | metal_magic | Intel Pentium 4 @ 2GHz, 1 GiB RAM |
| 19:56:08 | jzaun | metal_magic: Wanna swap? |
| 19:56:29 | metal_magic | how do you think it? |
| 19:56:43 | jzaun | metal_magic: yes... ok I /msg you my address :-D |
| 19:57:18 | metal_magic | what nice do you have? |
| 19:57:33 | anaconda | metal_magic: at least fast enough for bzflag;-) |
| 19:57:44 | metal_magic | if you have some really cool program, i have a better machine here :-) |
| 19:57:46 | jzaun | hmm... I got a Dual 500Mhz Celeron 196 Meg o ram |
| 19:58:33 | anaconda | metal_magic: but the noise of this machines - whoaaa;-( |
| 19:58:53 | metal_magic | Dual Pentium 4 Xeon @ 2.2 GHz with hyperthreading (you can see it as 4 CPUs), 4 GiB RAM |
| 19:59:15 | metal_magic | the noise is terrible ... HALOOOO, WHAT DO YOU SAY .. ;-) |
| 19:59:27 | anaconda | metal_magic: ;-) |
| 19:59:47 | metal_magic | it starts up and shuts down like a space shuttle |
| 20:00:42 | jzaun | well the space shuttle uses less than a P166 to run everything |
| 20:00:55 | anaconda | metal_magic: the only problem the p4 has is IMHO is that it's optimized for MHZ and not for instructions/MHZ |
| 20:01:10 | anaconda | jzaun: right. |
| 20:01:55 | metal_magic | anaconda: don't know but this machine is really quick :-) |
| 20:02:06 | anaconda | jzaun: is better like that - imagine a bug in the CPU revision. U better stick with an old, proven one. |
| 20:02:50 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:02:51 | metal_magic | and that is why they are using Pentiums :-) |
| 20:02:54 | anaconda | metal_magic: yes, sure! but a AMD with 2GHZ (real frequency) whould be much faster. |
| 20:02:54 | jzaun | anaconda: very true... and it really don't need the power |
| 20:02:55 | iLLf8d | sorry was in another weeno |
| 20:03:05 | iLLf8d | I haven't used E in a long long time |
| 20:03:14 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 20:03:14 | iLLf8d | the wm |
| 20:03:25 | metal_magic | anaconda: don't think so |
| 20:03:29 | captain_proton | at least for the time being, i'm gonna stick with intel |
| 20:04:01 | metal_magic | this machine is optimised for server use |
| 20:04:27 | metal_magic | no one was able to make such a good AMD server for us |
| 20:04:27 | anaconda | metal_magic: amd has also disadvantages, of course... power consumation, for example |
| 20:04:55 | captain_proton | heat |
| 20:05:15 | anaconda | captain_proton: well, yes, this is the result. |
| 20:05:47 | anaconda | a 1.4GHZ thunderbirds eats approx. 60W! |
| 20:06:15 | captain_proton | i could cluster 10 coldfire's together and still not use thatmuch |
| 20:07:08 | anaconda | captain_proton: well, amd should definitely shrink the die... |
| 20:07:24 | anaconda | die size, i mean |
| 20:08:14 | metal_magic | well friends, have to go, it's bed time |
| 20:08:41 | metal_magic | i will be probably on vacation next week |
| 20:08:56 | metal_magic | so i will not be on bzflag :-) |
| 20:09:04 | metal_magic | maby |
| 20:09:14 | metal_magic | ^H^H^H^H |
| 20:09:26 | anaconda | metal_magic: ciao |
| 20:09:36 | metal_magic | maybe i will show for a while tommorrow :-) |
| 20:09:40 | metal_magic | cu |
| 20:10:23 | Widget | Bye. |
| 20:11:15 | Risolino | XWindow.h:38: libusb.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:11:16 | Risolino | *** Error code 1 |
| 20:11:16 | Risolino | Stop in /usr/ports/games/bzflag/work/bzflag-1.7e6/src/platform. |
| 20:11:21 | Risolino | why? |
| 20:11:26 | Risolino | captain_proton: |
| 20:11:33 | Risolino | are you here? |
| 20:12:54 | Risolino | link libusb.h to usb.h or change the source code, this is the problem |
| 20:15:54 | captain_proton | Risolino: yes i know |
| 20:16:04 | Risolino | captain_proton: it still doesn't work |
| 20:16:17 | captain_proton | Risolino: i haven't changed anything, this is why |
| 20:16:32 | Risolino | captain_proton: what is exactly the problem? |
| 20:16:48 | captain_proton | Risolino: older versions of freebsd used 'libusb.h' instead of the more common 'usb.'h |
| 20:16:57 | captain_proton | so for ALL freebsd's, it uses libusb.h |
| 20:17:05 | captain_proton | even though they changed it in 4.6 |
| 20:17:07 | Risolino | i tried to link usb to libusb |
| 20:17:19 | Risolino | it doesn't compile |
| 20:18:26 | Risolino | maybe usb.h is really different... |
| 20:18:35 | anaconda | jzaun: btw.: Are you sure the space shuttle is equipped with p166 processors and not with some risc-cpus? |
| 20:19:16 | jzaun | anaconda: yah 100% sure... well all except for the Endevor - they upgraded it when it was built |
| 20:19:36 | jzaun | Hell the apollos used less than a TRS-80 to go to the moon |
| 20:20:16 | anaconda | jzaun: yes - and they managed to get there;-) |
| 20:24:46 | anaconda | jzaun: i'm not sure, but i think the iss is using very low perfomance cpu's, too. i think they would have problems with the x-ray conctration which would destroy the cpu structures. you know more about this? |
| 20:24:55 | iLLf8d | bbl |
| 20:25:20 | jzaun | anaconda: Yah, I got to run to the store though, I'll be back in a few min. |
| 20:25:56 | anaconda | jzaun: ok;-) but i have tzo go, too... another time then! cu! |
| 20:26:03 | jzaun | anaconda: My mother is a member of Teachers In Space, I was actually at the last Flyers convention that was held in the US... know all about space stuff |
| 20:26:18 | anaconda | jzaun: wow, nice;-) |
| 20:30:18 | anaconda | i'm off... cu everyone! |
| 20:56:11 | captain_proton | kicks the panel manager |
| 20:57:07 | sussudio | piece of crap bzedit |
| 21:00:31 | Widget | Wilhelmus van Nassouwe.... |
| 21:00:36 | Widget | Ben ik van Duitsen bloed... |
| 21:00:51 | mandy | lol |
| 21:01:02 | mandy | still singing that? |
| 21:01:08 | patlabor221 | what is wrong with der pannel manager |
| 21:01:15 | Risolino | i need to switch to linux to play bzflag...damn |
| 21:01:19 | sussudio | den vaderland getrouw ben ik tot in den dood |
| 21:01:23 | Widget | Yes. |
| 21:01:27 | Widget | Het Wilhelmus. |
| 21:01:28 | captain_proton | parse code isn't working quite right |
| 21:01:36 | Risolino | will it be a port to freebsd? |
| 21:01:38 | patlabor221 | damnit who keeps puting the iron chef theme song in my playlist! |
| 21:02:00 | Widget | Een Prinse van Oranje! |
| 21:02:09 | Widget | Ben ik vrij onverveerd.... |
| 21:02:21 | sussudio | TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO |
| 21:02:26 | Widget | De Koning van Hispanje heb ik altijd geerd. |
| 21:02:44 | patlabor221 | isnt' there are BSD BZ |
| 21:02:44 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 21:03:23 | patlabor221 | wonders if his bzedit will work under wine |
| 21:03:44 | patlabor221 | oh crap I need to CVS mine too, Tim asked if I could |
| 21:03:49 | Risolino | captain_proton: given that freebsd can excute the linux binaries, is there a way to obtain them in that format (with ALL the libraries linked in the a file)? |
| 21:03:54 | sussudio | bzedit doesnt even work under windows |
| 21:04:01 | captain_proton | Risolino: doubtfly |
| 21:04:03 | captain_proton | sussudio: oh really? |
| 21:04:14 | captain_proton | sussudio: btw, where did you obtain the version you're using? |
| 21:04:16 | sussudio | yes really |
| 21:04:20 | patlabor221 | sussudio: the one i Cvs don't mine does |
| 21:04:21 | captain_proton | if you got CVS, thats old |
| 21:04:40 | sussudio | BZEditW3201-01-02.zip |
| 21:04:50 | Risolino | patlabor221: there's no working bzflag for freebsd |
| 21:05:02 | patlabor221 | that version damned well should work in windows |
| 21:05:08 | patlabor221 | what don't work? |
| 21:05:12 | sussudio | nothing |
| 21:05:26 | captain_proton | smirks |
| 21:05:27 | patlabor221 | that one is mine |
| 21:05:47 | Risolino | patlabor221: who are you talking to? |
| 21:05:47 | sussudio | pops up an error box |
| 21:05:54 | patlabor221 | that sys? |
| 21:06:01 | sussudio | windows 2000 |
| 21:06:12 | patlabor221 | hmmmm, what is the erro |
| 21:06:26 | patlabor221 | rislo: sussudio |
| 21:06:40 | sussudio | oh same old shit...... |
| 21:06:53 | patlabor221 | when you launch or when you open something? |
| 21:06:58 | sussudio | it's caused by too long a filename or something according to some obscure ms faq |
| 21:07:11 | patlabor221 | that shouldn't mater |
| 21:07:11 | sussudio | launch. all i get it the error box |
| 21:07:17 | patlabor221 | hmmmm |
| 21:08:14 | patlabor221 | hmm I'm not doing anything special on launch |
| 21:08:20 | patlabor221 | just initing GL |
| 21:08:39 | sussudio | snort. |
| 21:09:15 | mandy | lalalala |
| 21:09:16 | patlabor221 | all the DLLs in there? there should be 2 and the exe? |
| 21:09:33 | sussudio | whatever's in the zip |
| 21:10:31 | patlabor221 | grabs the zips |
| 21:11:59 | patlabor221 | damn I didn't think anyone was using the thing |
| 21:12:26 | sussudio | *shrug* |
| 21:12:29 | captain_proton | boggles |
| 21:12:35 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 21:12:52 | captain_proton | its not infinite looping, but its not exiting the loop |
| 21:12:58 | patlabor221 | cap: you mean that game where you make up words from letter in that little bubble? |
| 21:13:12 | patlabor221 | would that not be infinate then? |
| 21:14:36 | Widget | Wow. |
| 21:14:39 | Widget | The rarely seen captain_pistachi... |
| 21:15:25 | patlabor221 | shhh that's his secret identity |
| 21:15:43 | Risolino | hahahaha |
| 21:15:45 | Risolino | here i am |
| 21:16:43 | mandy | lol |
| 21:17:42 | patlabor221 | ok sussudi I have a new one for you to try |
| 21:17:47 | patlabor221 | can I DCC it to you? |
| 21:18:10 | jzaun | patlabor221: Your app run on linux? |
| 21:18:20 | patlabor221 | the editor? |
| 21:18:21 | Widget | sussudio: What does "den koning van hispanje heb ik altijd geëerd" mean? |
| 21:18:35 | patlabor221 | the editor does not run on linux |
| 21:18:36 | jzaun | patlabor221: The game your workin on? you were updating it to |
| 21:18:38 | Widget | sussudio: The King of Spain I hold highly? Why? |
| 21:18:57 | patlabor221 | yes: cap is helping me get the libs going good on linux |
| 21:19:27 | patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/Code/BZ/Edit/BZEdit32_1.5.zip |
| 21:19:37 | sussudio | Widget: brown-nosers |
| 21:19:39 | patlabor221 | that is a bin only of the latest BZEditW32 |
| 21:19:53 | patlabor221 | bleeding edge and all that |
| 21:20:22 | Widget | sussudio: But hadn't the Netherlands gained independence by that time? |
| 21:20:42 | sussudio | *shrug* nobody sings it anyway |
| 21:20:55 | Widget | Ajax knew it. |
| 21:21:22 | captain_proton | yay |
| 21:21:24 | captain_proton | progress |
| 21:22:33 | patlabor221 | should change your name to cap_progress |
| 21:24:55 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:25:01 | captain_proton | need to come up with a naming schema |
| 21:25:22 | patlabor221 | for? |
| 21:25:50 | captain_proton | UI elements |
| 21:26:00 | captain_proton | i think i'll just add another field for the name |
| 21:26:09 | sussudio | how about pants-based names |
| 21:26:21 | Nicole3 | hi pplz |
| 21:26:53 | sussudio | plpfz |
| 21:27:05 | captain_proton | sussudio: crack kills |
| 21:27:16 | sussudio | that's why there are pants |
| 21:27:18 | sussudio | to cover your crack |
| 21:29:36 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 21:29:40 | Nicole3 | hi |
| 21:30:09 | patlabor221 | cap: I can not comment on any thing about the pannel manager as I have not seen it |
| 21:30:24 | patlabor221 | but I'l bet it's got that stupid indentaion style |
| 21:30:33 | patlabor221 | :) |
| 21:31:51 | Nicole3 | ibot is back! |
| 21:31:55 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 21:32:03 | patlabor221 | yes he is |
| 21:32:07 | Nicole3 | yay! |
| 21:32:21 | | mandy was last seen on #bzflag 15 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: lol [Wed Aug 14 22:16:43 2002] |
| 21:32:21 | Nicole3 | ibot: seen mandy |
| 21:32:31 | Nicole3 | woa |
| 21:32:38 | patlabor221 | she left right as you got here |
| 21:32:46 | Nicole3 | o |
| 21:32:50 | Nicole3 | makez sense |
| 21:33:01 | patlabor221 | is she your nemisis? |
| 21:33:09 | Nicole3 | nope |
| 21:33:09 | patlabor221 | or your secret identity? :) |
| 21:33:11 | Nicole3 | why? |
| 21:33:17 | Nicole3 | no |
| 21:33:22 | patlabor221 | just cus you said makes sense that's all |
| 21:33:28 | Nicole3 | o |
| 21:33:34 | Nicole3 | makez sense cuz i didn't see her |
| 21:33:39 | Nicole3 | but she was just here |
| 21:33:43 | patlabor221 | noone ever sees clark kent and superman at the same time :) |
| 21:33:46 | Nicole3 | and you said that she left right as i got on |
| 21:33:55 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:33:58 | Nicole3 | you see mandy and i at the same time |
| 21:34:12 | patlabor221 | there are ways to log in twice :) |
| 21:34:21 | Nicole3 | but i don't know how |
| 21:34:28 | Nicole3 | cuz i'm not a comp person |
| 21:34:37 | Nicole3 | and you see her on bzflag when i'm on |
| 21:34:44 | patlabor221 | well I am just jesting. |
| 21:34:51 | Nicole3 | ok |
| 21:34:54 | Nicole3 | jeez |
| 21:34:54 | Widget | So you would have us believe. |
| 21:35:03 | patlabor221 | no realy I am |
| 21:35:06 | patlabor221 | she |
| 21:35:09 | patlabor221 | see |
| 21:35:13 | patlabor221 | hahahaha :) |
| 21:35:18 | Nicole3 | ok then |
| 21:35:30 | patlabor221 | haven't seen doug today |
| 21:35:39 | patlabor221 | wonder if he picked his motherborad |
| 21:35:46 | Nicole3 | blah |
| 21:35:50 | Nicole3 | doing homework |
| 21:36:03 | Nicole3 | er * /me is doing homework |
| 21:36:07 | Nicole3 | doesn't work then |
| 21:36:08 | Nicole3 | ok fine |
| 21:37:19 | Widget | Hm... Home Secretary Blunkett says drugs will be treated just as leniently as illegally possessing sleeping pills. |
| 21:37:45 | Widget | Like in Europe. |
| 21:37:55 | Nicole3 | ok...... |
| 21:38:13 | Widget | He wants to institute national ID cards too. |
| 21:45:43 | sussudio | i say institute name tags and funny hats |
| 21:45:51 | sussudio | that way everyone looks like they work at burger king |
| 21:46:44 | sussudio | souffles gout fromage |
| 21:48:09 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 21:48:10 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 21:48:12 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:48:12 | Widget | ibot: ducati |
| 21:51:04 | Widget | Are there any portable ogg players? |
| 21:51:48 | sussudio | Widget: depends on how big your shovel is |
| 21:52:02 | Widget | ? |
| 21:52:15 | sussudio | anything is portable in some way |
| 21:53:49 | Widget | I meant something of the sort of the portable (as in one can carry it comforably in their hand) MP3 players. |
| 21:53:54 | Widget | And I daresay you knew that. ;) |
| 21:54:06 | sussudio | i was eating cheesy things |
| 21:58:37 | Widget | ½ |
| 22:11:27 | mandy | hihihi |
| 22:11:39 | bryjen | bzfquerylong 63.147.94.145 5155 |
| 22:12:06 | bryjen | drat. wrong addr. |
| 22:12:19 | bryjen | bzfquerylong 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 22:12:19 | mandy | brb |
| 22:12:56 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:13:17 | bryjen | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:13:18 | bzbot | jdoe (G): -92 (364-456). greenmonkey (G): -25 (13-38). Obiwankenobi (G): 1 (96-95). M1 (R): 85 (216-131). HardAttack (R): -65 (118-183). [meq] freelancer (R): 30 (103-73). brat (G): -12 (39-51). lone wolf (R): 25 (61-36). @Widget (B): 0 (0-0). |
| 22:14:28 | Widget | Does anyone want to play p2501? |
| 22:16:56 | sussudio | what the x is p2501 |
| 22:17:13 | Widget | http://www.wizards.de/~frank/project2501 |
| 22:17:54 | sussudio | plays debbie gibson mp3's during bzflag.... feel the pain |
| 22:21:56 | Risolino | widget? |
| 22:22:03 | Widget | Risolino? |
| 22:23:01 | Risolino | idoes it work? |
| 22:23:37 | Risolino | where can i download it? i can't find the source |
| 22:23:44 | Widget | Oh.. you have to ask BZFrank. |
| 22:24:02 | sussudio | i dont see a download link |
| 22:24:44 | Risolino | who do you want to play with? |
| 22:25:20 | Widget | I was wondering if any of you had it already. |
| 22:25:37 | sussudio | hrmpf |
| 22:26:10 | Risolino | Widget: do you have it? |
| 22:26:38 | Widget | Risolino: Yes. |
| 22:26:54 | Risolino | is it good? |
| 22:27:14 | Widget | Yes, but buggy. |
| 22:27:36 | Risolino | is it better than bzflag? |
| 22:28:23 | Widget | It's different. |
| 22:29:30 | Risolino | who gave it to you? |
| 22:29:42 | Widget | Frank. Email him and ask him if you can test it. |
| 22:29:54 | Risolino | ok |
| 22:33:41 | sussudio | emails frank drebin |
| 22:36:44 | captain_proton | who is frank drebin? |
| 22:37:28 | sussudio | ... |
| 22:38:14 | Widget | Hahaha. |
| 22:38:24 | Widget | Yes, who is Frank Drebin? |
| 22:38:35 | sussudio | barbarians |
| 22:38:53 | sussudio | http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/1018/policesquad/drebin.html |
| 22:41:26 | Widget | "barbarians"? |
| 22:41:29 | Widget | You sound like Assurancetourix |
