| 00:00:03 | Noodleman | i have 1.5 mbit cable... |
| 00:00:04 | bzdoug | k |
| 00:00:05 | bzdoug | 128 now |
| 00:00:11 | bzdoug | dsl is bad going out |
| 00:00:12 | bzdoug | :( |
| 00:00:32 | bzdoug | how is it now? |
| 00:00:42 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:00:51 | Noodleman | ok |
| 00:00:55 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:01:00 | bzdoug | its not skipping? |
| 00:01:02 | Noodleman | a lot better |
| 00:01:04 | bzdoug | rebuffering? |
| 00:01:05 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:01:06 | bzdoug | good |
| 00:01:13 | bzdoug | now |
| 00:01:22 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:01:31 | Noodleman | and i don't notice anything worse about the quality |
| 00:01:41 | bzdoug | it was at 198 |
| 00:01:44 | bzdoug | now 128 |
| 00:01:57 | Noodleman | where did you get this music? |
| 00:02:01 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:02:04 | Noodleman | i like it |
| 00:02:06 | bzdoug | my cd-roms |
| 00:02:11 | Noodleman | i see |
| 00:02:16 | Noodleman | geez!! |
| 00:02:23 | Noodleman | loony tunes |
| 00:02:37 | Noodleman | weird |
| 00:02:38 | bzdoug | haha |
| 00:02:43 | Widget | Yay. |
| 00:02:46 | Widget | I got it! |
| 00:02:52 | Widget | Star Wars? |
| 00:02:59 | bzdoug | yup |
| 00:03:07 | Noodleman | after listening to symphony # 41 in c, loony tunes is weird |
| 00:03:08 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:03:20 | bzdoug | haha |
| 00:03:25 | bzdoug | my mp3 coolection |
| 00:03:27 | bzdoug | and ogg |
| 00:03:40 | bzdoug | http://heck.no-ip.com:81 |
| 00:03:58 | Widget | Sort of choppy. |
| 00:04:11 | bzdoug | your in NZ, what do you expect? |
| 00:04:13 | Noodleman | is it legal to stream music like that? if it is, i'll try it |
| 00:04:14 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:04:18 | bzdoug | Noodleman: hmm |
| 00:04:21 | bzdoug | I guess so |
| 00:04:27 | captain_proton | haha - listen to the 3rd movement of Ferde Grofe's grand canyon suite - you'll be surprised that you know it |
| 00:04:30 | bzdoug | its not public |
| 00:04:41 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 00:04:58 | Widget | Brother, Where Art Thou |
| 00:05:01 | Noodleman | ok, let me set up one real quick... |
| 00:05:06 | bzdoug | k |
| 00:05:12 | bzdoug | Widget: :) |
| 00:06:02 | Widget | I hate your music! |
| 00:06:03 | bzdoug | ack |
| 00:06:04 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:06:13 | bzdoug | I am finding my what song... |
| 00:06:24 | bzdoug | http://heck.no-ip.com:81 lets you pick |
| 00:06:34 | Widget | Heehee. |
| 00:06:37 | Widget | Not Star Wars again. |
| 00:06:42 | bzdoug | nope |
| 00:06:44 | bzdoug | 2001 |
| 00:06:53 | Widget | That was just Star Wars! |
| 00:06:59 | Widget | OK, now it's 2001. |
| 00:07:03 | Widget | Maybe I clicked on Star Wars. |
| 00:07:15 | bzdoug | oops |
| 00:07:18 | bzdoug | wierd |
| 00:07:46 | Noodleman | compiling icecast... |
| 00:07:54 | bzdoug | Noodleman: hehe |
| 00:08:03 | Widget | Does Noatun support Icecast? |
| 00:08:24 | bzdoug | maybe |
| 00:08:29 | Noodleman | it should, don't you have xmms? |
| 00:08:36 | Widget | Eep, when I click on a title, it is added to the playlist. |
| 00:08:41 | Widget | How do I delete something from the playlist? |
| 00:08:47 | Widget | I have XMMS, but I prefer Noatun. |
| 00:08:55 | Noodleman | try right click, then delete? |
| 00:09:02 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:09:03 | bzdoug | I will |
| 00:09:11 | bzdoug | poof |
| 00:09:12 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:09:16 | bzdoug | I am admin |
| 00:09:17 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:10:13 | Widget | No! |
| 00:10:17 | Widget | Not 2001! |
| 00:10:26 | bzdoug | its starwars |
| 00:10:31 | bzdoug | you picked it |
| 00:10:37 | Widget | Oh, so it is. |
| 00:10:57 | captain_proton | haha |
| 00:11:14 | bzdoug | your not listening |
| 00:11:24 | bzdoug | Listener Peak: 2 |
| 00:11:56 | captain_proton | bzdoug: got any richard strauss? |
| 00:12:01 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:12:04 | bzdoug | I have a CD |
| 00:12:07 | bzdoug | but I have to rip it |
| 00:12:10 | bzdoug | taked awhile |
| 00:12:13 | bzdoug | takes |
| 00:12:18 | captain_proton | what piece(s)? |
| 00:12:22 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:12:25 | bzdoug | dunno |
| 00:12:25 | bzdoug | lots |
| 00:13:02 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:13:23 | Widget | Ick. |
| 00:13:27 | Widget | Fingernails on a blackboard? |
| 00:13:27 | bzdoug | :09 |
| 00:13:30 | bzdoug | haha |
| 00:13:36 | bzdoug | new you would see that |
| 00:13:39 | bzdoug | knew |
| 00:14:01 | Widget | captain_proton attempts to pass himself off as cultured. |
| 00:14:09 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 00:14:27 | bzdoug | I LOVE crossfading |
| 00:14:32 | captain_proton | Widget: i know a lot more classical music than you do |
| 00:14:52 | Widget | captain_proton: Where did I dispute that? |
| 00:14:58 | captain_proton | nowhere :) |
| 00:15:02 | Noodleman | my server is almost ready... |
| 00:15:16 | Widget | I'll have you know I got a 4 on the Music Theory AP examination! |
| 00:15:16 | bzdoug | Noodleman: you can host mine, right? |
| 00:15:22 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:15:32 | bzdoug | great! I found tomita! |
| 00:15:39 | Noodleman | please don't run yours on mine, it's only a 200 mhz |
| 00:15:41 | captain_proton | 'tanks and flags' is an impressive piece :) |
| 00:15:51 | bzdoug | Noodleman: haha |
| 00:15:56 | Noodleman | the server that you have acces too that is |
| 00:15:59 | bzdoug | it does not take mch |
| 00:16:15 | Noodleman | and it will use my bandwidth |
| 00:16:23 | Widget | bzdoug: Add Schindler's List to your movie themes. |
| 00:16:29 | bzdoug | all i needs is a retransmit, I send one stream, out goes a bunch |
| 00:16:43 | bzdoug | Widget: cant, audiogalaxy is gone |
| 00:16:47 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:16:47 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 00:16:54 | Widget | Use Gnutella. |
| 00:17:01 | bzdoug | ugh |
| 00:17:01 | captain_proton | crouching tiger = best movie sountrack |
| 00:17:07 | Widget | Yes, it's painfully slow. |
| 00:17:14 | Widget | And yes, it has limited selection. |
| 00:17:17 | Widget | But it works! |
| 00:17:19 | Widget | (Just) |
| 00:17:23 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 00:17:33 | Widget | captain_proton: The Chinese accents in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon were truly appaling. |
| 00:17:46 | captain_proton | Widget: so? it was one of the best movies i've ever seen |
| 00:17:56 | bzdoug | brb |
| 00:17:58 | Widget | Then again, I have no right to say anything about Chinese accents. |
| 00:18:25 | Widget | Mine sucks. |
| 00:18:47 | Widget | is away: Lunch. |
| 00:20:09 | bzdoug | heh |
| 00:22:32 | Widget | Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha. |
| 00:22:44 | bzdoug | cant wait until I get bzflag over laser beam |
| 00:23:02 | Widget | Stop adding stuff to my playlist!!! |
| 00:23:07 | bzdoug | I am not |
| 00:23:08 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 00:23:20 | Widget | Why are all these things appearing there then? |
| 00:23:24 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:23:25 | Widget | star wars - ewok song |
| 00:23:26 | bzdoug | dunno |
| 00:23:30 | bzdoug | my mouse |
| 00:23:31 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 00:24:04 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:24:09 | bzdoug | your song ist playing now |
| 00:24:19 | Widget | No. |
| 00:24:24 | Widget | Some weird song is playing now. |
| 00:24:26 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:24:28 | bzdoug | you picked it |
| 00:24:32 | bzdoug | oh |
| 00:24:33 | Widget | Did not! |
| 00:24:40 | Widget | 02-Flying Dutchman Overture _ Wagner is not playing. |
| 00:24:40 | bzdoug | your buffer is still playing it |
| 00:24:44 | bzdoug | now it is |
| 00:24:53 | bzdoug | wait for the buffer to empty |
| 00:24:59 | Widget | Now Star Wars. |
| 00:25:03 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:25:17 | bzdoug | I am playing dutchman song |
| 00:25:19 | Widget | There |
| 00:25:24 | bzdoug | see? |
| 00:25:31 | bzdoug | it tkaes awhile to get through |
| 00:26:44 | bzdoug | and this is ogg, going out as MP3 |
| 00:26:51 | bzdoug | so its kinda lossy |
| 00:28:22 | bzdoug | Noodleman: you done? |
| 00:28:34 | Noodleman | getting there |
| 00:28:40 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 00:29:49 | bzdoug | Widget: it sounds good? |
| 00:30:01 | Widget | bzdoug: Slightly choppy, but still good. |
| 00:30:07 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:30:14 | bzdoug | I could lower it abit more |
| 00:30:16 | sussudio | grr |
| 00:30:25 | bzdoug | woof woof |
| 00:30:28 | sussudio | there's some kind of cheatbot on lbdpc15.epfl.ch |
| 00:30:37 | sussudio | it has ALL flags at once |
| 00:30:38 | bzdoug | cheatbot? |
| 00:30:40 | sussudio | yes |
| 00:30:48 | Noodleman | try noodledom.no-ip.com:8000 in your mp3 software |
| 00:30:49 | sussudio | laser, shockwave, speed, etc |
| 00:30:59 | bzdoug | Noodleman: hmm, ok |
| 00:31:05 | bzdoug | Widget: server is going down... |
| 00:31:11 | sussudio | it came IN with a laser! |
| 00:31:19 | bzdoug | sussudio: ::( |
| 00:31:20 | Noodleman | working? |
| 00:31:20 | Widget | bzdoug: Nooooooooo!!!!! |
| 00:31:26 | Widget | bzdoug: It's fine, really. |
| 00:31:31 | bzdoug | Noodleman: I have to wait for Widget |
| 00:31:31 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:31:37 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:31:38 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:31:47 | bzdoug | unless I startup a second one... |
| 00:31:59 | sussudio | it's jumping like 100's of feet! |
| 00:32:10 | bzdoug | sussudio: then its cheating |
| 00:32:18 | sussudio | well yes, i came to that conclusion |
| 00:32:31 | sussudio | it has a number for a callsign |
| 00:32:32 | bzdoug | :( |
| 00:32:40 | bzdoug | cant start second client |
| 00:33:26 | Noodleman | anybody trying it yet? |
| 00:33:37 | bzdoug | Noodleman: not yet |
| 00:33:44 | bzdoug | almost onver this song is |
| 00:34:08 | bzdoug | dum |
| 00:34:17 | bzdoug | de |
| 00:34:17 | sussudio | can someone get rid of this thing? |
| 00:34:17 | bzdoug | dum |
| 00:34:29 | bzdoug | sussudio: nobody is admin there |
| 00:34:33 | sussudio | bah |
| 00:35:01 | sussudio | bzquery ldbpcl15.epfl.ch 5155 |
| 00:35:11 | sussudio | how did that work |
| 00:35:21 | bzdoug | its broke |
| 00:35:26 | sussudio | oh |
| 00:35:49 | bzdoug | almost done |
| 00:35:51 | sussudio | how about an option in the next version to kick and ban someone who shoots their teammates 2 times in a row |
| 00:35:56 | bzdoug | Widget: droping server now |
| 00:36:01 | Widget | OK. |
| 00:36:04 | Noodleman | my music is better than doug's anyway hehehe |
| 00:36:04 | sussudio | we had an asshole earlier that kept killing teammates |
| 00:36:08 | bzdoug | haha |
| 00:36:27 | sussudio | sploogepants cumstain or something |
| 00:36:34 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:36:42 | bzdoug | cool |
| 00:36:43 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:36:49 | bzdoug | Widget: you still on? |
| 00:36:56 | bzdoug | good |
| 00:36:58 | Noodleman | yup, i see you're on |
| 00:37:02 | bzdoug | you will get noodlemans server |
| 00:37:05 | Widget | I am still on. |
| 00:37:19 | bzdoug | I am sending back to Widget your server :) |
| 00:37:23 | bzdoug | er |
| 00:37:25 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:37:32 | bzdoug | Widget: isnow getting Noodlemans music |
| 00:37:43 | bzdoug | ugh |
| 00:37:53 | bzdoug | execpt its bad going in AND out now |
| 00:38:06 | bzdoug | what music? |
| 00:38:25 | bzdoug | Noodleman: what is it? |
| 00:38:33 | Widget | http://heck.no-ip.com:81/ |
| 00:38:38 | Widget | I still see Doug's music. |
| 00:38:54 | Noodleman | forgot his name, it's a choral ave maria |
| 00:38:59 | bzdoug | Widget: yea, but I am not streaming my music now, I am now streaming Noodlemans server |
| 00:39:14 | Noodleman | parsons is his name |
| 00:39:17 | Widget | So I can't select what I want to listen to!?!?!? |
| 00:39:31 | Noodleman | sorry, it's not shoutcast |
| 00:39:50 | bzdoug | Noodleman: nope |
| 00:39:55 | Noodleman | how would i do that with icecast? |
| 00:40:06 | bzdoug | Widget: you can, but it wont play until Noodleman kills his server |
| 00:40:17 | bzdoug | Noodleman: perl |
| 00:40:23 | bzdoug | Noodleman: CGI |
| 00:40:28 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:40:37 | bzdoug | or get php stuff |
| 00:40:39 | bzdoug | its free |
| 00:40:49 | Noodleman | ok |
| 00:40:54 | Noodleman | maybe later |
| 00:40:57 | bzdoug | play illingrass blah blah song |
| 00:41:02 | bzdoug | I forget |
| 00:41:16 | bzdoug | ack!!! |
| 00:41:18 | bzdoug | umm |
| 00:41:22 | bzdoug | Noodleman: your server is down? |
| 00:41:34 | Noodleman | no, what problem are you having? |
| 00:41:38 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:41:41 | bzdoug | its lost you |
| 00:41:45 | bzdoug | it lost* |
| 00:41:46 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:41:49 | bzdoug | now its back |
| 00:42:53 | Noodleman | Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough) |
| 00:43:00 | bzdoug | Noodleman: yup |
| 00:43:04 | Noodleman | that's what the log says about you, doug |
| 00:43:05 | bzdoug | I am streaming out and in |
| 00:43:07 | bzdoug | not goo |
| 00:43:08 | bzdoug | d |
| 00:43:16 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:44:40 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:44:49 | Noodleman | ouch |
| 00:44:53 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:45:06 | bzdoug | its too much for my connection |
| 00:45:18 | bzdoug | Noodleman: now you listen to me. :) |
| 00:45:22 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:45:29 | Noodleman | ok, url? |
| 00:45:34 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:45:42 | bzdoug | heck.no-ip.com:8000 |
| 00:46:39 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:46:46 | bzdoug | you hear it? |
| 00:46:57 | bzdoug | good? |
| 00:47:21 | Noodleman | i hear it |
| 00:47:23 | Noodleman | got it |
| 00:47:25 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:47:29 | Noodleman | kind of lossy |
| 00:47:37 | bzdoug | heck.no-ip.com:81 |
| 00:47:42 | bzdoug | to choose |
| 00:47:56 | Noodleman | ok |
| 00:48:46 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:48:51 | bzdoug | saw it pop in |
| 00:49:02 | Noodleman | .................. |
| 00:49:03 | bzdoug | playing |
| 00:49:16 | bzdoug | it takes awhile to get through your buffer |
| 00:49:19 | Noodleman | i don't have it yet |
| 00:49:24 | bzdoug | wait... |
| 00:49:30 | Noodleman | xmms hasn't popped up yet |
| 00:49:37 | bzdoug | ? |
| 00:49:58 | bzdoug | you disconnected |
| 00:50:04 | Noodleman | hmm |
| 00:50:13 | bzdoug | and Widget too |
| 00:50:20 | Noodleman | don't i just click on the some title? |
| 00:50:25 | bzdoug | yea |
| 00:50:27 | Noodleman | song* |
| 00:50:30 | bzdoug | its on the playlist |
| 00:50:35 | bzdoug | reconnect and listen |
| 00:51:17 | bzdoug | waits.. |
| 00:51:25 | bzdoug | your still not on... |
| 00:51:27 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 00:51:39 | Widget | I'm on. |
| 00:51:42 | bzdoug | your missing the good parts |
| 00:51:48 | bzdoug | I see you |
| 00:52:01 | Noodleman | i see |
| 00:52:12 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:52:14 | Noodleman | i choose on :81, then connect to :8000 |
| 00:52:20 | bzdoug | yes! |
| 00:52:22 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:52:25 | Noodleman | i missed the good parts |
| 00:52:27 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:52:32 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:52:41 | bzdoug | its almost over now... |
| 00:52:42 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:53:26 | bzdoug | who picked james bond? |
| 00:53:53 | Widget | Not me. |
| 00:53:58 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:53:59 | Noodleman | i don't know |
| 00:54:00 | bzdoug | Noodleman: ? |
| 00:54:05 | bzdoug | I did not |
| 00:54:07 | Noodleman | not me |
| 00:54:17 | Widget | It was bzdoug |
| 00:54:17 | bzdoug | *cough* |
| 00:54:23 | bzdoug | I did not! |
| 00:54:36 | Widget | You're the only one who likes James Bond! |
| 00:54:36 | bzdoug | hmm! |
| 00:54:39 | bzdoug | I dont! |
| 00:54:40 | Widget | I picked Lawrence of Arabia. |
| 00:54:45 | bzdoug | I see that |
| 00:55:06 | bzdoug | I love being admin |
| 00:55:07 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:55:10 | Noodleman | hey!!! |
| 00:55:10 | bzdoug | Noodleman: .... |
| 00:55:18 | bzdoug | haha, I knew it |
| 00:55:21 | Noodleman | you removed all the sound effects!! |
| 00:55:26 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 00:55:30 | bzdoug | you want them? |
| 00:55:30 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:55:48 | bzdoug | ok |
| 00:55:51 | bzdoug | they are back |
| 00:56:17 | Noodleman | thx |
| 00:56:18 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:56:24 | bzdoug | all of them |
| 00:56:24 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:56:32 | bzdoug | oh yea |
| 00:56:32 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:56:41 | bzdoug | the password for :81 is admin |
| 00:56:48 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:56:48 | bzdoug | type in /admin |
| 00:57:02 | bzdoug | gives you control over it |
| 00:57:16 | Noodleman | MUWAHAHAHA!!!! |
| 00:57:22 | bzdoug | HAHAHA |
| 00:57:29 | Widget | bzdoug: Bad call. |
| 00:57:43 | bzdoug | Widget: I can change it |
| 00:57:45 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:57:51 | bzdoug | I have Noodlemans password for root |
| 00:58:02 | Noodleman | yeah, what is it?? |
| 00:58:06 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:58:09 | Noodleman | smarty |
| 00:58:18 | bzdoug | er |
| 00:58:22 | bzdoug | for the username tad |
| 00:58:30 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:58:32 | captain_proton | tries to decide on a movie to watch |
| 00:58:41 | Widget | captain_proton: At a theatre? |
| 00:58:52 | captain_proton | Widget: no |
| 00:58:55 | bzdoug | divx? |
| 00:59:05 | captain_proton | yes |
| 00:59:20 | bzdoug | captain_proton: what movies do ya have? |
| 00:59:27 | Widget | Have the copyrights expired on all the movies? |
| 00:59:28 | bzdoug | hey! |
| 00:59:41 | Noodleman | muhahahaha! |
| 00:59:48 | captain_proton | Widget: perhaps... ;) |
| 00:59:49 | Widget | Borg? |
| 01:00:18 | bzdoug | you dont like jamebond do you? |
| 01:00:21 | Widget | Interesting. |
| 01:00:31 | Widget | For a moment two songs were playing at the same time. |
| 01:00:42 | bzdoug | Widget: yea, crossfading |
| 01:00:48 | Noodleman | if someone can find out my root password, i commend them |
| 01:00:53 | Noodleman | sorry doug |
| 01:00:54 | captain_proton | bzdoug: some of them are ok |
| 01:00:55 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:00:59 | Widget | But with my choppy connection, it was interesting. |
| 01:00:59 | captain_proton | except roger moore is fugly |
| 01:01:33 | captain_proton | hmm, there's dr who to choose from too... |
| 01:01:33 | bzdoug | MUAHAHAHA |
| 01:01:50 | Widget | Weird things are happening to the playlist. |
| 01:01:59 | bzdoug | its Noodleman |
| 01:02:00 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:02:07 | Noodleman | hehe, doug shouldn't have given out his password |
| 01:02:12 | Widget | Who keeps pitting James Bond up there? |
| 01:02:13 | Noodleman | not true! |
| 01:02:18 | bzdoug | Noodleman |
| 01:02:27 | Noodleman | i'm not doing it, i swear |
| 01:02:34 | bzdoug | uhuh |
| 01:02:36 | bzdoug | right |
| 01:02:37 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:02:45 | bzdoug | no swearing.. |
| 01:02:50 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 01:02:57 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:03:00 | Noodleman | ************* |
| 01:03:10 | Widget | I wanna listen to Mr. Holland's Opus. |
| 01:03:13 | bzdoug | @#%@#%%@#$@ |
| 01:03:13 | Widget | Woohoo! |
| 01:03:20 | bzdoug | THE LOAD IT |
| 01:03:23 | bzdoug | oops |
| 01:03:24 | bzdoug | caps |
| 01:03:37 | Widget | Move Mr. Holland's Opus to the top. |
| 01:03:42 | Noodleman | geez, another IE vulnerability |
| 01:03:50 | Widget | http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/8/6/143536/8836 |
| 01:03:51 | Widget | Yes. |
| 01:03:54 | Noodleman | what won't billy boy think up next |
| 01:04:03 | Widget | Mr. Holland's Opus! Now! |
| 01:04:05 | bzdoug | really? |
| 01:04:05 | Widget | Yay! |
| 01:04:29 | Widget | movie themes - Mr. Holland's Opus |
| 01:04:30 | Widget | NOW!!! |
| 01:04:34 | bzdoug | it is |
| 01:04:42 | Widget | OK. |
| 01:04:44 | Widget | It just started. |
| 01:05:08 | Widget | It's stopping and restarting. |
| 01:05:11 | Widget | Eep! What's this song!?!? |
| 01:05:12 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:05:20 | bzdoug | mr hollend opus |
| 01:05:29 | Widget | Good, it came. |
| 01:05:56 | Noodleman | i need to find some lowercase music |
| 01:06:29 | bzdoug | like... |
| 01:06:56 | Noodleman | lowercase music is that music with barely any sound at all |
| 01:07:02 | Widget | tomita - ballet of the chickens!?!? |
| 01:07:05 | bzdoug | my favorite! |
| 01:07:06 | captain_proton | Noodleman: hmm i heard about that |
| 01:07:07 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:07:11 | captain_proton | Noodleman: forward it my way when you find it ;) |
| 01:07:17 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:07:18 | Noodleman | ok |
| 01:07:21 | bzdoug | captain_proton: I can send blank emails too |
| 01:07:37 | captain_proton | Noodleman: hmm, did you hear ruudi's music? |
| 01:07:50 | captain_proton | the first half or so could be classified as lowercase |
| 01:07:55 | captain_proton | (at the right volume) |
| 01:07:59 | bzdoug | um |
| 01:08:03 | bzdoug | hey! |
| 01:08:06 | Noodleman | no |
| 01:08:07 | bzdoug | I was listeing to that |
| 01:08:10 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:08:11 | captain_proton | lemme find the url |
| 01:08:29 | captain_proton | http://www.valgamaa.ee/Ringtee/Skipheads/tanks_and_flags.mp3 |
| 01:08:38 | bzdoug | sounds liek a sub |
| 01:08:49 | captain_proton | bzdoug: sounds like music -for- a sub ;) |
| 01:08:57 | bzdoug | oh, right |
| 01:09:24 | Noodleman | that would be a good candidate for lowercase |
| 01:09:25 | bzdoug | I gonna delete bond if you wont stop |
| 01:10:38 | Widget | LOL |
| 01:10:40 | Widget | What happened? |
| 01:10:42 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:10:48 | bzdoug | Noodleman: keeps putting bond up |
| 01:11:06 | Widget | How do you get admin access? |
| 01:11:15 | bzdoug | /admin |
| 01:11:19 | Widget | Let him listen to it if he likes it that much. |
| 01:11:22 | Widget | Type /admin where? |
| 01:11:32 | bzdoug | after the :81 |
| 01:11:47 | bzdoug | http://hecl.no-ip.com:81/admin |
| 01:12:02 | Widget | Username and password? |
| 01:12:10 | bzdoug | admin and admin |
| 01:12:17 | Widget | God it. |
| 01:12:23 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:12:25 | bzdoug | het! |
| 01:12:30 | bzdoug | 13@#$$% |
| 01:13:06 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:13:10 | bzdoug | wierd did that comefrom |
| 01:13:18 | Widget | Wow. |
| 01:13:22 | Widget | James bond is finally playingh. |
| 01:13:27 | bzdoug | not any moer |
| 01:13:29 | bzdoug | blah |
| 01:13:44 | jacques | we have streaming music in bzflag now? |
| 01:13:55 | bzdoug | jacques: yup |
| 01:14:10 | jacques | how about some techno |
| 01:15:17 | Widget | Aah! James Bond is better than this horrible stuff!!1 |
| 01:15:22 | bzdoug | blah |
| 01:15:41 | captain_proton | jacques: not in bzflag |
| 01:15:48 | captain_proton | jacques: its just doug's server |
| 01:15:51 | Widget | In #bzflag |
| 01:15:56 | captain_proton | bwah |
| 01:15:58 | bzdoug | looky, I am delteing the song from ym drive |
| 01:16:02 | Widget | What's happening!?!?!? |
| 01:16:12 | Widget | Let it play. |
| 01:16:21 | bzdoug | wierd |
| 01:16:22 | bzdoug | huh? |
| 01:16:27 | bzdoug | 3 admins |
| 01:17:05 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:17:13 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 01:17:13 | jpablo | ibot: ducati ? |
| 01:17:19 | bzdoug | poof goes bond |
| 01:17:23 | Widget | bzbot isnae here. |
| 01:17:40 | Widget | Could not connect to heck.no-ip.com |
| 01:17:45 | bzdoug | try again |
| 01:17:54 | jpablo | dum dada dum, who want to play on ducati ? |
| 01:17:59 | Widget | I will. |
| 01:18:03 | bzdoug | reload the whole thing |
| 01:18:18 | jacques | captain_proton: heh ok |
| 01:18:18 | jpablo | ok, see you there. |
| 01:19:32 | bzdoug | Noodleman: what is the pass for your server? |
| 01:20:01 | Noodleman | which pass? |
| 01:20:07 | bzdoug | for icecast |
| 01:20:08 | captain_proton | yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 01:20:10 | captain_proton | time for star trek |
| 01:20:16 | bzdoug | captain_proton: hehe |
| 01:20:34 | Noodleman | you mean the password that winamp uses to feed audio to icecast? |
| 01:20:39 | bzdoug | yes |
| 01:20:41 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:20:49 | Noodleman | just a sec |
| 01:20:52 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:21:19 | bzdoug | I can get 2 streams going out, then kill the first, then widget an listen to you, with my stuff going through |
| 01:21:20 | bzdoug | it |
| 01:21:26 | Noodleman | 'rednoodle' |
| 01:21:30 | bzdoug | um |
| 01:21:33 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:22:22 | bzdoug | bah |
| 01:22:23 | bzdoug | nope |
| 01:22:42 | jacques | "his search pattern shows two dimensional thinking" |
| 01:22:46 | Noodleman | now try |
| 01:22:57 | bzdoug | nien |
| 01:23:04 | bzdoug | port? |
| 01:23:06 | jacques | as if a genetically engineered supra-genius could not grok that space is 3d |
| 01:23:08 | bzdoug | 8001? |
| 01:23:18 | Noodleman | 8000 |
| 01:23:24 | bzdoug | 8000 dont work |
| 01:23:39 | Noodleman | what error? |
| 01:23:41 | ski | is the server list down?! |
| 01:23:53 | bzdoug | I dont get one, it dont connect |
| 01:24:01 | Noodleman | hm |
| 01:24:08 | ski | :( |
| 01:24:30 | Noodleman | i don't know then.... |
| 01:24:34 | bzdoug | wierd |
| 01:24:36 | bzdoug | oh well |
| 01:25:13 | Noodleman | you can try listening again |
| 01:25:19 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:25:19 | bzdoug | k |
| 01:25:50 | ski | i want to play but the server list isnt working ;( |
| 01:25:56 | ski | damn! |
| 01:26:38 | bzdoug | cool |
| 01:26:43 | bzdoug | type this into browser |
| 01:26:44 | bzdoug | http://noodledom.no-ip.com:8000 |
| 01:26:53 | bzdoug | you get the mp3 streaming into the window |
| 01:26:54 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:27:02 | bzdoug | just read realllly fast |
| 01:27:06 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 01:27:35 | bzdoug | ack |
| 01:27:41 | bzdoug | buffering |
| 01:27:45 | bzdoug | anyway |
| 01:27:49 | bzdoug | its getting late... |
| 01:27:50 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:27:59 | bzdoug | http://www.wizards.de/~frank/project2501/Atomic_blast_1.jpg |
| 01:28:00 | Noodleman | ok, cya |
| 01:28:02 | bzdoug | check it out |
| 01:28:03 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:28:16 | bzdoug | wishI could get my music back to my room |
| 01:28:17 | ski | later |
| 01:28:44 | | yes, bzdoug? |
| 01:28:44 | bzdoug | ibot? |
| 01:28:47 | bzdoug | dsl is down |
| 01:28:53 | Noodleman | cool |
| 01:29:18 | bzdoug | ops |
| 01:29:20 | bzdoug | maybe not |
| 01:29:22 | bzdoug | http://www.wizards.de/~frank/project2501/ |
| 01:29:34 | bzdoug | check out the screen shots at the bottom |
| 01:29:42 | bzdoug | its all the atom bomb |
| 01:29:46 | jacques | dangit, I keep missing bzfrank - I wanna test p2501 too |
| 01:30:25 | bzdoug | ah well |
| 01:30:29 | bzdoug | bed time... |
| 01:30:38 | bzdoug | and my chair is hurting... |
| 01:30:41 | Noodleman | cya |
| 01:30:41 | bzdoug | :( |
| 01:30:58 | bzdoug | I am way up on a tall chair |
| 01:31:03 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:31:04 | bzdoug | so I am hurting... |
| 01:31:05 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:31:13 | bzdoug | and I do it all the time too |
| 01:31:13 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:35:10 | captain_proton | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 01:37:46 | captain_proton | kaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 01:40:31 | jacques | :-D |
| 01:40:31 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 01:40:44 | jacques | "let slip the dogs of war" |
| 01:41:16 | captain_proton | "you are in a position to demand nothing, sir. I, on the other hand, am in a position to grant...nothing" |
| 01:43:15 | jacques | heh |
| 01:48:24 | jpablo | dum dada dum. |
| 01:54:16 | jacques | arg how am I gonna survive 9 days without bzflag??? |
| 01:54:41 | captain_proton | jacques: its possible |
| 01:54:46 | captain_proton | difficult, but possible |
| 01:56:34 | jacques | :-( |
| 01:56:48 | jacques | i fel the shakes coming on already |
| 01:57:31 | Widget | captain_proton: Speak for yourself. |
| 01:57:58 | Widget | jacques: You're not going to make it. |
| 01:58:02 | Widget | jacques: Can I have your computer? |
| 01:58:46 | captain_proton | haha |
| 01:59:28 | jpablo | Widget: you can get his computer but the video card is mine (assuming it's a good card). |
| 02:00:27 | jpablo | also i want the girlfriend, i guess that's all. |
| 02:01:06 | jacques | you want my new dual athlon 1800+ with gf4 4200 overclocked to 300/540 ? |
| 02:01:19 | jacques | that gets > 200fps at 1280x1024x24 ? |
| 02:01:53 | jacques | i think there is a line |
| 02:04:56 | jacques | BIAW |
| 02:10:19 | ski | good night all |
| 02:10:21 | ski | cya |
| 02:28:47 | Widget | Does anyone have the Slashdot article about the guy who replaced a road sign? |
| 02:29:10 | jpablo | replaced it with what / |
| 02:29:11 | jpablo | ? |
| 02:29:48 | Widget | With his own less confusing version or something. |
| 02:30:21 | jpablo | humm. |
| 02:30:30 | Widget | Found it. |
| 02:31:19 | jpablo | give me the link ! |
| 02:32:11 | Widget | http://slashdot.org/articles/02/05/09/1610236.shtml?tid=99 |
| 03:40:11 | jp_zZZz | nights. |
| 03:40:17 | jacques | jzaun: where are you? |
| 03:52:44 | captain_proton | sup MrApathyCream? |
| 03:55:09 | MrApathyCream | hey mmm |
| 03:55:37 | MrApathyCream | cvs down? |
| 03:56:04 | captain_proton | lemme try |
| 03:57:28 | captain_proton | works fine here |
| 03:57:54 | MrApathyCream | oh ok, good, it's just that i haven't received any cvs checkin notification emails |
| 03:58:01 | MrApathyCream | perhaps just that part is down |
| 03:58:04 | captain_proton | since when? |
| 03:59:15 | MrApathyCream | last was jeff myers vorbis stuff 8/3 -- i'm sure you've checked in massive changes since then |
| 03:59:27 | captain_proton | heh... |
| 03:59:37 | captain_proton | ... you're sure? |
| 03:59:40 | MrApathyCream | wonders where vogon_jeltz is.... he would jump in here |
| 04:01:10 | | CRAZY 1.8 GUY MIA |
| 04:01:10 | MrApathyCream | ibot, vogon_jeltz? |
| 04:02:00 | MrApathyCream | WOW! |
| 04:02:03 | vogon | hah. |
| 04:02:14 | captain_proton | can summon vogon at will |
| 04:02:29 | MrApathyCream | vogon == captain_proton? |
| 04:02:37 | vogon | yes. |
| 04:02:37 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: nono |
| 04:02:42 | captain_proton | i just said i could summon him at will |
| 04:02:46 | vogon | I am a manifestation of his self-doubt. |
| 04:02:51 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 04:02:52 | captain_proton | and he doesn't want to admit that its true |
| 04:03:31 | MrApathyCream | were you be, vogon? |
| 04:03:42 | MrApathyCream | chasin' skirts? |
| 04:03:46 | vogon | no. |
| 04:04:07 | vogon | working on my own projects. |
| 04:18:12 | captain_proton | 'my own projects' |
| 04:18:17 | captain_proton | what a load of tripe |
| 04:18:30 | vogon | heh. |
| 04:18:42 | captain_proton | there is no world outside of bzflag |
| 04:18:48 | vogon | oh, yeah, and I'm a minister now. |
| 04:19:08 | captain_proton | ... figures |
| 04:19:23 | vogon | I've come to rape your children and wear weird hats. |
| 04:20:22 | captain_proton | and if i don't have children? |
| 04:20:47 | captain_proton | weird hats are all you've got, buddy |
| 04:20:59 | vogon | then I ask for 1/10 of your income and pretend to get a blessing from an invisible monster in the sky. |
| 04:21:33 | blair | sup |
| 04:22:17 | captain_proton | blair: listening to vogon preach about some hats or something |
| 04:22:19 | captain_proton | shrugs |
| 04:22:54 | blair | vogon? |
| 04:23:03 | blair | just reading through the primes in P paper |
| 04:23:18 | vogon | And, lo, the chosen people of Israel shall be graced with one-size-fits-all baseball caps, and they won't be those lame ones with the plastic adjustment things. |
| 04:23:38 | blair | flexphit |
| 04:24:19 | captain_proton | blair: see? |
| 04:24:39 | blair | yeah, wtf, i'm not a chosen one, what about me? |
| 04:24:59 | captain_proton | i'm sure he'll be happy to convert you |
| 04:25:01 | vogon | then you have to wear a fez for all eternity. |
| 04:25:09 | vogon | or, at your option, a cheese hat. |
| 04:25:24 | blair | i'll take the cheesehat |
| 04:25:27 | captain_proton | probably for some extremely reasonable processing fee |
| 04:25:46 | blair | cheesygoodness |
| 04:26:00 | vogon | captain_proton: 30 bucks buys you eternal salvation or triple your money back. |
| 04:27:14 | blair | ok i'm outta here |
| 04:30:46 | vogon | captain_proton: plus, you get a newsletter, bumper sticker, some pamphlets, and an official legal ordainment if you're over 18. |
| 04:31:12 | vogon | captain_proton: and a Doktorate in Forbidden Sciences. |
| 04:31:15 | captain_proton | i think i'll pass for now |
| 04:31:43 | vogon | and the Divine, All-Inclusive Excuse. |
| 04:31:44 | Widget | What? Is someone trying to convert someone to the freemasonry? |
| 04:31:59 | captain_proton | is currently pursuing the black art of microcontroller programming |
| 04:32:09 | vogon | Widget: Church of the SubGenius. |
| 04:32:13 | Widget | Ah. |
| 04:33:07 | vogon | oh, and you get a 2-for-1 ministerial deal with the Universal Life Church. |
| 04:33:19 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: do you switch between stuff on an hourly basis |
| 04:33:28 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: just about |
| 04:34:07 | captain_proton | i've only got 4 projects going on right now - quite reasonable |
| 04:34:56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: bza? |
| 04:37:11 | Patlabor221 | looking for it |
| 04:37:20 | Patlabor221 | the one ring was calling |
| 04:37:56 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 04:37:58 | captain_proton | :) |
| 04:38:28 | Patlabor221 | did you know there is only one ring |
| 04:38:38 | Patlabor221 | and that it's there to find them |
| 04:38:45 | Patlabor221 | and to pring them all |
| 04:38:55 | Patlabor221 | and in the darkness to bind them |
| 04:38:59 | Patlabor221 | I found that very interesting |
| 04:39:06 | captain_proton | yes, fascinating |
| 04:39:18 | Widget | Yes, strangely alluring. |
| 04:39:26 | CLQ | Somone to the Ducati server please? |
| 04:39:35 | Patlabor221 | wtf |
| 04:39:44 | Widget | I.... have to go to ducati..... |
| 04:39:47 | Widget | Can't...... resist.... |
| 04:41:57 | captain_proton | Sponcomm...introducing web-based blackboards and command line driven socks |
| 04:42:55 | Patlabor221 | gahhh I want faster uploads |
| 04:45:25 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I only have an older version of the test |
| 04:45:38 | captain_proton | what happened to the newer version? |
| 04:45:43 | Patlabor221 | at work |
| 04:45:56 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 04:46:37 | Patlabor221 | or perhaps not |
| 04:48:55 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/bzarena.zip |
| 04:48:59 | Patlabor221 | that's the first part |
| 04:49:05 | Patlabor221 | or I should say the last part |
| 04:49:10 | Patlabor221 | that is the current stuff |
| 04:49:14 | Patlabor221 | has no "game part" |
| 04:49:18 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 04:49:20 | Patlabor221 | but it's got the current libs |
| 04:49:40 | captain_proton | well what fun is that? |
| 04:49:46 | Patlabor221 | noting |
| 04:49:51 | Patlabor221 | it's not fun at all |
| 04:50:04 | Patlabor221 | the only thing that can be done in the hud test is drive around |
| 04:50:10 | Patlabor221 | and look at clouds |
| 04:50:14 | Patlabor221 | dosn't even read a map yet |
| 04:51:19 | Patlabor221 | I have a movement test that has everything execpt for the newer UI panels on the corners |
| 04:51:23 | Patlabor221 | want that? |
| 04:51:41 | captain_proton | why not |
| 04:52:08 | Patlabor221 | it's rather large |
| 04:52:46 | Patlabor221 | like on the 13 meg side |
| 04:53:09 | captain_proton | thats ok |
| 04:53:19 | Patlabor221 | I can trim it down |
| 04:53:23 | Patlabor221 | seems it's all skyboxes |
| 04:54:22 | Patlabor221 | down to 2.5 megs |
| 04:54:50 | Patlabor221 | it's at least got a good chunk of the movement |
| 04:54:52 | Patlabor221 | and the sky |
| 04:54:56 | Patlabor221 | and the choulds |
| 04:54:56 | captain_proton | nifty |
| 04:55:07 | Patlabor221 | and the cool spinny hut |
| 04:55:09 | Patlabor221 | hud |
| 04:55:15 | Patlabor221 | and third person |
| 04:55:19 | Patlabor221 | and jumping |
| 04:56:06 | Patlabor221 | I must find out where I have the linux stuff for the texture manager |
| 04:58:03 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/pockettanks.zip |
| 04:58:26 | Patlabor221 | that is "the stufff" |
| 04:58:36 | Patlabor221 | or as I like to call it, fun wiht DLLs |
| 04:59:38 | captain_proton | eep |
| 05:00:02 | Patlabor221 | you guys allways tell me that you can do DLL like code on linux :) |
| 05:00:47 | Patlabor221 | cus setin them up on win is cake |
| 05:00:58 | captain_proton | where's some of the DLL stuff (wanna see what you're doin') |
| 05:01:58 | Patlabor221 | what kind |
| 05:02:03 | Patlabor221 | static link or dynamic? |
| 05:02:30 | captain_proton | dynamic |
| 05:02:45 | Patlabor221 | hmm not in any of the stuff I sent you there |
| 05:02:54 | Patlabor221 | but I think I sent some to akira |
| 05:02:56 | Patlabor221 | one sec |
| 05:03:06 | Patlabor221 | all plugin style and all |
| 05:03:31 | Patlabor221 | http://wwwartemisgames.com/code/newent.zip |
| 05:03:34 | Patlabor221 | that does both |
| 05:03:44 | Patlabor221 | the managers are static linked |
| 05:04:03 | Patlabor221 | but the ent classes are loaded at run time from how ever many DLLs you hapen to have |
| 05:04:14 | Patlabor221 | that's what I need to do on linux |
| 05:05:25 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:05:32 | captain_proton | every class inherits from a common base? |
| 05:05:40 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 05:05:58 | captain_proton | how do you extract the classes from the lib? |
| 05:06:06 | Patlabor221 | then the DLL registers a name and a function to make new ones and deilete them |
| 05:06:11 | captain_proton | in linux you have to have two factory functions |
| 05:06:13 | Patlabor221 | multiples of that |
| 05:06:15 | captain_proton | create and destroy |
| 05:06:18 | captain_proton | :) |
| 05:06:19 | Patlabor221 | iyeah |
| 05:06:26 | Patlabor221 | one per class |
| 05:07:46 | Widget | 2<12Patlabor2212> I will not use GCC |
| 05:07:50 | Widget | 2<12Patlabor2212> I need a real compiler |
| 05:07:57 | Patlabor221 | unless i have to |
| 05:08:31 | captain_proton | haha |
| 05:08:49 | Patlabor221 | I hate that make file crap |
| 05:11:52 | Widget | captain_proton: Is there any tool for Linux that does class management, syntax checking and highlighting and debugging? |
| 05:11:57 | Widget | An IDE? |
| 05:12:03 | Patlabor221 | yes there are |
| 05:12:05 | Patlabor221 | that's what I use |
| 05:12:14 | Widget | What do you use? |
| 05:12:35 | Patlabor221 | kdeveop and that anjunta-whatever thing |
| 05:14:06 | captain_proton | anjuta = gorgeous |
| 05:14:18 | Patlabor221 | I wouldn't go that far |
| 05:14:21 | Widget | What is it an IDE for? |
| 05:14:24 | captain_proton | seriously |
| 05:14:28 | captain_proton | the interface kills |
| 05:14:28 | Patlabor221 | it's the best thing on linux I've seen |
| 05:14:33 | Widget | Oh. For C/C++. |
| 05:14:42 | Widget | It doesnae support Objective-C? |
| 05:14:42 | Patlabor221 | then you don't lookc around much |
| 05:14:50 | Patlabor221 | it should support any compiler |
| 05:15:04 | Widget | So why don't you use it with gcc? |
| 05:15:13 | Patlabor221 | neve said I didn't |
| 05:15:21 | Patlabor221 | but only when I have to |
| 05:15:34 | Patlabor221 | and dosn't mean I like it |
| 05:15:40 | Patlabor221 | that stuff is SLLLLLOOOOOWWWWWW |
| 05:16:06 | Patlabor221 | I have to see if there is a way to not have it show all the crap it does to get ready for a build |
| 05:16:18 | Patlabor221 | that's gota take time just to draw all that text |
| 05:18:46 | Patlabor221 | now codewarrior that was an IDE |
| 05:46:50 | MrApathyCream | CODEWARRIOR!! |
| 05:47:07 | Patlabor221 | DR1 man |
| 05:47:21 | MrApathyCream | i used dr1 |
| 05:47:32 | Patlabor221 | bugiest peioce of... on the planet :) |
| 05:47:42 | MrApathyCream | not as bad as symantec |
| 05:48:11 | Patlabor221 | ohhh man |
| 05:48:19 | Patlabor221 | don't get me started on that |
| 05:48:30 | captain_proton | what about borland? |
| 05:49:24 | Patlabor221 | we still have 1 thing that usees that |
| 05:49:50 | captain_proton | the old dos one? |
| 05:49:59 | Patlabor221 | no the first 95 one |
| 05:50:06 | captain_proton | with ... (ominous music) BGI :) |
| 05:50:22 | Widget | My dad's Macintosh Plus has Symantec C++. |
| 05:50:59 | captain_proton | Widget: stuff your parents use(d) doesn't count |
| 05:51:27 | Widget | Hey, I'm the only person who still uses the Mac Plus. |
| 05:51:31 | Widget | Who else would? |
| 05:51:46 | Patlabor221 | I have an SE30 as a doorstop |
| 05:52:25 | MrApathyCream | dad = OS 4.1 ? |
| 05:52:33 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 05:52:51 | Patlabor221 | dude update your dad man |
| 05:53:09 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:53:13 | captain_proton | earliest i remember using was 5 |
| 05:53:20 | Widget | It's very difficult to upgrade with versions that old. |
| 05:53:33 | MrApathyCream | i used 1.0 with the moonscape |
| 05:53:40 | MrApathyCream | (about box) |
| 05:53:47 | Widget | Oh, yes. I once went to a friend's house and they had a Mac SE running System 2.something. |
| 05:54:06 | Widget | I somehow managed to render it unusable (I was something like 5). |
| 05:56:39 | MrApathyCream | anyone for some dinner4six on jzaun? |
| 05:56:50 | captain_proton | yesyes |
| 05:56:58 | Patlabor221 | I sleep nopw |
| 05:56:59 | captain_proton | could you wait 15 minutes though? =P |
| 05:57:08 | Patlabor221 | cap don't go selling my code or antying |
| 05:57:15 | Patlabor221 | or making it all wierd :) |
| 05:57:20 | captain_proton | haha |
| 05:57:24 | captain_proton | me? make code weird? |
| 05:57:26 | captain_proton | never! |
| 05:57:28 | MrApathyCream | fixed the links and the laser bounce |
| 05:57:29 | Patlabor221 | pshhhhh naw |
| 05:57:48 | Patlabor221 | but if you want to make the texture manager work I would apriciate that |
| 05:57:57 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: can you wait? |
| 05:58:08 | MrApathyCream | spose |
| 05:58:25 | captain_proton | k |
| 05:58:27 | captain_proton | be back in 15 |
| 06:01:48 | Widget | is away: Dinner. |
| 06:03:23 | Widget | wants an iPod. |
| 06:20:09 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: back |
| 06:35:48 | Widget | has a new picture and description! |
| 06:36:27 | Widget | captain_proton: Get an image for your BZFlag league thing! |
| 06:55:24 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: up for deckz0r now? |
| 06:55:34 | MrApathyCream | sleepy time, me thinks |
| 06:55:41 | captain_proton | its only 4 am! |
| 06:55:58 | Widget | is back (gone 00:54:10) |
| 06:56:11 | MrApathyCream | gettin old |
| 06:56:20 | Widget | :( |
| 06:56:33 | Widget | captain_proton: This is a perfect opportunity to put up an image for captain_proton on the league site. |
| 06:57:37 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 07:33:28 | Wing_ | wow this is the fewest i have seen onthis server |
| 07:33:44 | Wing_ | uh.. channel |
| 07:33:55 | Wing_ | anyone willing to go one on one? |
| 08:05:55 | PerfectCell | just started implementing collision detection |
| 08:06:37 | PerfectCell | the most important part of my game |
| 08:07:55 | PerfectCell | supports concave objects |
| 08:08:40 | PerfectCell | because its using tight motion bboxes |
| 08:09:28 | PerfectCell | thats the plan for today: do the whole collision detection |
| 08:12:03 | PerfectCell | and drink a lot of fresh carrot juice made with http://www.top-getreidemuehlen.de/champion.shtml :)) |
| 08:12:59 | PerfectCell | in the breaks |
| 08:17:41 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 08:17:45 | captain_proton | wonders @ rcam.ws |
| 08:19:51 | PerfectCell | uz mean http://rcam.ws/ , i hope not |
| 08:20:46 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 08:20:48 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 08:20:53 | captain_proton | you missed the whole rcam incident |
| 08:21:08 | PerfectCell | what was it about? |
| 08:21:38 | captain_proton | guy calls up tim, wants to do some commercial releases of bz, offers a team of full-time employees and money flowing back into the development community |
| 08:21:42 | captain_proton | turns out to be some 14 year old kid |
| 08:21:59 | PerfectCell | haha |
| 08:22:13 | captain_proton | at at least until recently, http://rcam.ws/ was the website of his 'company' |
| 08:22:32 | PerfectCell | oh, and now it looks different |
| 08:22:43 | captain_proton | yes, you could say that |
| 08:22:49 | PerfectCell | someone of u |
| 08:22:59 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 08:23:01 | PerfectCell | did that to the poor kid |
| 08:23:11 | captain_proton | wasn't me |
| 08:23:22 | PerfectCell | i know |
| 08:24:04 | PerfectCell | k, i got to work |
| 09:36:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 10:23:34 | Cell_programming | shit how do i test if a set of points is koplanar, that is kinda difficult because of float precision |
| 10:28:52 | Cell_programming | i try as folows: |
| 10:29:22 | Cell_programming | first construct a regression plane: mean square method |
| 10:34:03 | Cell_programming | f(m1,m2,m3) = Sum[1..n]((m1*x[i]+m2*y[i]+m3-z[i])*(m1*x+m2*y+t-z[i])) = Min! |
| 10:37:51 | Cell_programming | then look if all points satisfy the ondition: m1*x[i]+m2*y[i]+m3-z[i] < eps |
| 10:38:27 | Cell_programming | where eps is a little tolerance value |
| 10:59:52 | Chestal | Cell: with up to 3 points, it's easy ;-) |
| 11:01:08 | Cell_programming | hehe, really? |
| 12:17:12 | doughecka | ? |
| 13:04:39 | doughecka | hey BZFlag |
| 13:07:46 | doughecka | ugh |
| 13:08:13 | BZFlagModem | yeah. |
| 13:14:27 | Cell_programming | first scale then rotate then translate, right? |
| 13:14:51 | akira_ | moin |
| 13:18:25 | BZFlagModem | sounds right, though the order of scale should not matter. |
| 13:19:09 | BZFlagModem | hmm. well that is provided scaling is object centered... scaling after translating might be a bad idea. |
| 13:24:10 | Cell_programming | but rotate first and scale on one axis is not the same as scale on the axis and then rotate |
| 13:24:14 | Cell_programming | i suppose |
| 13:25:04 | Cell_programming | just have to proofe that mathematically |
| 13:25:10 | doughecka | I say mix up the whole thing in a blender and throw it out |
| 13:25:35 | akira_ | Cell_programming: proove is easy |
| 13:25:49 | akira_ | matrix multiplikation isnt commutative ... |
| 13:25:54 | Cell_programming | just compute the matrix products |
| 13:26:01 | Cell_programming | but it can be |
| 13:26:11 | Cell_programming | in some cases |
| 13:26:14 | akira_ | it is for some special cases |
| 13:26:18 | akira_ | transformations |
| 13:26:23 | akira_ | uniform scaling |
| 13:26:34 | Cell_programming | yes |
| 13:27:59 | Cell_programming | i know there is also an easy way to get the inverse Matrix out of (T*R*S)^-1 |
| 13:28:29 | Cell_programming | R^1 is just R^T |
| 13:29:07 | akira_ | yep |
| 13:29:23 | akira_ | but to be sure you have to check some cells |
| 13:30:01 | Cell_programming | T^-1= T(tx/-tx,ty/-ty,tz/-tz) |
| 13:30:07 | Cell_programming | what cells |
| 13:30:30 | Cell_programming | "/" means substitute |
| 13:30:45 | Cell_programming | but what is S^-1 |
| 13:31:03 | akira_ | rotations just minipulate the upper 3x3 matrix .. the rest should be 0 in a rotmatrix .. but the [4][4] should be 1 |
| 13:31:17 | Cell_programming | yes,k |
| 13:33:25 | Cell_programming | just transforming the normal: apply only R no T and S |
| 13:34:26 | akira_ | why want you to scale ? |
| 13:34:32 | akira_ | for zoom? |
| 13:35:34 | jpablo | morning. |
| 13:35:51 | akira_ | hi |
| 13:36:51 | doughecka | moin |
| 13:36:53 | doughecka | greetings |
| 13:36:54 | doughecka | hi |
| 13:36:55 | doughecka | hey |
| 13:36:56 | Cell_programming | no for collision detection, i have to transform back to the object space |
| 13:36:58 | doughecka | hello |
| 13:37:43 | Cell_programming | and i also need and idea how to get the thightest convex hull of a set of points |
| 13:38:17 | akira_ | Cell_programming: :) much fun :)) |
| 13:39:36 | Cell_programming | yes i want to get my own game like bzflag runnig in one week, just a generic skeleton game would be enough |
| 13:40:12 | Cell_programming | and today is the collision detection imple. day, because everything other is build on it |
| 13:40:16 | akira_ | :) |
| 13:41:39 | Cell_programming | and i have a really nice colli ideas |
| 13:42:17 | Cell_programming | fast and at trilevel and supports concave objects |
| 13:43:10 | Cell_programming | right now im writing a 2d testing app, cause 3d is same just add z- Component |
| 13:43:32 | doughecka | waves his hands |
| 13:43:45 | doughecka | bangs his hand on the desk |
| 13:44:25 | akira_ | do that, i am leaving now for some sex |
| 13:44:27 | akira_ | do that, i am leaving now for some secs |
| 13:44:29 | akira_ | :)) |
| 13:47:00 | Cell_programming | he? |
| 13:47:55 | akira_ | what? |
| 14:52:02 | vincent | ok widget what can we win today and whats the question |
| 14:53:02 | vincent | hmmm thinkin or sleepin?? |
| 14:54:22 | vincent | well sweet dreams all of you, I m outta here! |
| 15:30:24 | jzaun | Should I splerge and buy it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2043090723 |
| 15:31:50 | jzaun | Add http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2044494664 to the case as well? |
| 15:40:43 | patlabor221 | WTF where is everyone? |
| 15:40:57 | patlabor221 | it's like the last day of school, noone is here |
| 16:10:09 | Cell_programming | max_dx = (float)Math.Abs(Math.Sin( Math.Abs(avel)+Math.Acos(dy/radius) )) * radius; |
| 16:10:28 | Cell_programming | just a calc of max x bmotion box extent |
| 16:10:33 | Cell_programming | :) |
| 16:30:37 | patlabor221 | what are you making? |
| 16:37:22 | Cell_programming | i try to make my bzflag style game in one week, today = day1 i do collision detection implementation, after a long and deep preparation |
| 16:38:30 | CLQ | You mean something lik bzflag? |
| 16:38:37 | Cell_programming | my detection is at trilevel if necessary and supports concave 3d objects. No need to make an extra collision hull for objects |
| 16:38:50 | Cell_programming | yes something like bzflag |
| 16:40:34 | CLQ | good luck |
| 16:41:34 | Cell_programming | im almost done with the moving against static geometry detection, and i use motion bboxis so there would be always an acurate collision detection for fas moving objects against small static and so on |
| 16:41:56 | patlabor221 | cell why not use libs that do this allready |
| 16:42:04 | patlabor221 | then you can be done faster |
| 16:43:34 | Cell_programming | no, im that happy with my code, and unique ideas, so i know what i use and dont have to rely on someones code, and its more fun |
| 16:44:02 | patlabor221 | true but it can take more time |
| 16:44:12 | patlabor221 | are you doing windows only? |
| 16:44:20 | Cell_programming | biside u have to spent lot of time getting used to an library |
| 16:44:43 | patlabor221 | well the one of the colision libs only has 4 functions :) |
| 16:45:03 | Cell_programming | no its plain C will run on everything that supports OpenGL |
| 16:45:13 | Cell_programming | wich one of the libs? |
| 16:45:18 | patlabor221 | then how are you rining up a window |
| 16:45:20 | patlabor221 | playing sound |
| 16:45:24 | patlabor221 | handaling net |
| 16:45:30 | patlabor221 | geting input ect... |
| 16:45:32 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 16:46:34 | patlabor221 | cap where was that lib |
| 16:46:40 | patlabor221 | it was the one frank used |
| 16:46:43 | patlabor221 | I will look |
| 16:47:21 | Cell_programming | oh im doing it all in c# now and translate it later to c to make it faster, use Fox Toolkit for UI, and the other one there are standard libs i think |
| 16:47:49 | patlabor221 | ok so fox is bringin up your windows |
| 16:47:56 | Cell_programming | yes |
| 16:48:02 | patlabor221 | but net is not standard by any long shot |
| 16:48:04 | patlabor221 | nor is sound |
| 16:48:42 | Cell_programming | then i look at bzflag source considering net and sound, but i do all in c# now with .net framework |
| 16:48:52 | patlabor221 | ok so windows only |
| 16:49:27 | Cell_programming | yes, but if someone ports :net to unix or linux it will not be |
| 16:49:40 | Cell_programming | and i would have no extra work |
| 16:49:45 | patlabor221 | and they port the libs you are using that tie onto driect X |
| 16:49:52 | patlabor221 | it's more then the language |
| 16:50:09 | Cell_programming | no im using opengl |
| 16:50:09 | patlabor221 | the lib I saw was coldet |
| 16:50:20 | patlabor221 | GL for display |
| 16:50:25 | patlabor221 | GL does not do sound |
| 16:50:30 | patlabor221 | GL does not do input |
| 16:50:36 | Cell_programming | yes for display |
| 16:50:37 | patlabor221 | gl Does not change the screen res |
| 16:50:57 | patlabor221 | what plays your sounds? |
| 16:50:59 | Cell_programming | i know but that is easy ported, i looked at nehe |
| 16:51:29 | patlabor221 | but if your C# then none of the libs I know of will help you |
| 16:51:53 | Cell_programming | They will |
| 16:51:53 | patlabor221 | be interesting to see if there is a speed dif |
| 16:52:00 | Cell_programming | me too |
| 16:52:27 | patlabor221 | do you have a game degign or are you just making it up in your head? |
| 16:52:29 | Cell_programming | but u can download my source code i done already after every day, |
| 16:52:41 | patlabor221 | I don't know c# |
| 16:53:17 | Cell_programming | firs i made it up in my head and paper since one month, thinking on every detail, and now im coding |
| 16:53:37 | patlabor221 | you have the design document online somwhere? |
| 16:54:04 | Cell_programming | no, its on my paper, and its not user friendly |
| 16:54:15 | patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 16:54:25 | patlabor221 | what model format you using? |
| 16:54:30 | Cell_programming | 3ds |
| 16:54:47 | patlabor221 | ahhhh, not bad, there are worse |
| 16:55:00 | Cell_programming | but world is in xml |
| 16:55:13 | Cell_programming | described |
| 16:55:50 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bza has a sample of my world format |
| 16:55:57 | Cell_programming | the good thing is i make the whole level in 3d studio max and load it and it runs |
| 16:56:10 | patlabor221 | that is indeed nice |
| 16:56:21 | patlabor221 | I plan on making a GMAX exporter for mine |
| 16:56:35 | Cell_programming | yes cause i can do some very nice and rapid levels |
| 16:57:12 | patlabor221 | untill you need to start seting data that is not avable in max |
| 16:58:40 | Cell_programming | yes, i place 3d action baxes in the world that trigger actions if they overlap with a tank or other object |
| 16:58:56 | patlabor221 | all my map elements can have game logic so they need paramaters in the map file |
| 16:59:10 | patlabor221 | so I need to be able to set abritary data per item |
| 16:59:12 | Cell_programming | my not |
| 16:59:29 | patlabor221 | everything in my world is just an instance of some class |
| 16:59:42 | patlabor221 | and those classes are plugins |
| 16:59:52 | Cell_programming | cool |
| 17:00:52 | patlabor221 | that way the world can be modified as much as posible with out changing the core app |
| 17:01:54 | Cell_programming | i use only action boxes and they have a interface that users can implement, so its too kinda plugin |
| 17:02:12 | Cell_programming | they have access to the global object env |
| 17:02:24 | Cell_programming | env hold severything they need |
| 17:02:26 | patlabor221 | plus anything that has to do with display setup/sound/net/etc.. is wraped in a class, so that they can be implemented on each OS |
| 17:02:44 | Cell_programming | nice idea |
| 17:02:47 | patlabor221 | yes that is similar |
| 17:03:00 | patlabor221 | encapulation is an old thing |
| 17:03:15 | Cell_programming | yes |
| 17:03:22 | patlabor221 | you allways want to make your OS specific stuff in one module |
| 17:03:50 | patlabor221 | are you going to do LOD? |
| 17:03:54 | Cell_programming | hmm thats difficult for me, have to think about that |
| 17:04:02 | Cell_programming | yes |
| 17:04:18 | patlabor221 | what's your target tri count for each sceene? |
| 17:04:25 | Cell_programming | LOD cause my objects have 1000 and more tris if they are near |
| 17:05:09 | patlabor221 | automatic LOD? |
| 17:05:28 | Cell_programming | no |
| 17:06:04 | Cell_programming | it will test for distance, and then decide which modell representation to choose |
| 17:06:23 | patlabor221 | static LOD |
| 17:06:26 | Cell_programming | yes |
| 17:06:30 | patlabor221 | it will have "poping then" |
| 17:06:36 | patlabor221 | but proalby aceptable |
| 17:07:22 | Cell_programming | but automatic LOD has slight visible changings, annoying me |
| 17:07:54 | patlabor221 | depends on how you implement it |
| 17:08:11 | patlabor221 | view dependet progresive meshes don't |
| 17:08:19 | patlabor221 | since they are based on pixels |
| 17:08:25 | Cell_programming | maybe, i dont know much about that now |
| 17:08:36 | Cell_programming | will look at it later |
| 17:08:50 | patlabor221 | yeah it will take a goodly amount of time for that |
| 17:09:09 | Cell_programming | thought so |
| 17:09:56 | patlabor221 | and if your like bz you won't have that many tris on the screen at one time |
| 17:10:23 | Cell_programming | ithink 30.000 tris per frame are ok |
| 17:11:14 | Cell_programming | but i will be configurable |
| 17:11:32 | Cell_programming | so use can choose what runs best for him |
| 17:12:20 | Cell_programming | but i have to continue now, dont want to runnig out of time |
| 17:15:33 | patlabor221 | 1.8 mill a sec, that's not bad, all modern hardwar can handle that |
| 17:15:42 | patlabor221 | good luck |
| 17:22:37 | akira_ | moin |
| 17:22:42 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:22:42 | akira_ | ibot ducati |
| 17:24:14 | akira_ | alles tod? |
| 17:24:18 | akira_ | naja. bis spaeter |
| 17:28:48 | patlabor221 | hey man |
| 17:29:12 | patlabor221 | how's it going? |
| 17:29:12 | oh | wow, not many people here today |
| 17:29:41 | oh | who you talking to? |
| 17:30:45 | patlabor221 | akira |
| 17:30:49 | patlabor221 | but no there isn't |
| 17:30:54 | patlabor221 | it's all quiet |
| 17:31:10 | patlabor221 | don't even have bzbot |
| 17:31:50 | oh | yeah |
| 18:16:02 | Widget | hihihi |
| 18:22:16 | [BZ]Ruudi | night |
| 18:24:46 | Widget | Good night. |
| 18:25:05 | strayer | hi all |
| 18:25:36 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: How come you don't have an image on the league page, eh!?!? |
| 18:25:51 | strayer | wow....Chestal is not here.... |
| 18:25:54 | Widget | A pessimist is an optimist with experiences... |
| 18:26:05 | strayer | hehe... |
| 18:26:12 | Widget | strayer: Get an image! |
| 18:26:49 | strayer | ;) |
| 18:27:07 | Widget | Je dirai même plus: Cules Jésar est arrivé en Gelbique! |
| 18:27:26 | strayer | ?!? |
| 18:27:37 | Widget | It's from Astérix. |
| 18:27:57 | strayer | aha....and that means? |
| 18:28:02 | Widget | It's when Dupont and Dupond (I dunno what they're called in German) from Tim und Struppi make a cameo appearance. |
| 18:28:18 | Widget | Astérix is a famous comic... Tim und Struppi is another famous comic. |
| 18:28:30 | Widget | (Tintin) |
| 18:28:40 | strayer | i know bot comics....i love comics |
| 18:28:45 | strayer | bot=both |
| 18:29:20 | Widget | Did you read Astérix chez les Belges (I dunno the German translation.... the English translation is "Asterix in Belgium") |
| 18:29:44 | strayer | jep...i did....but long long ago |
| 18:29:56 | strayer | "Asterix in Belgien" |
| 18:30:18 | Widget | Well, Dupont and Dupond (The two police officers in black hats who are always messing things up) make an appearance there. |
| 18:30:26 | Widget | Dressed up as Gauls. |
| 18:31:23 | Widget | And they say "Jules César est arrivé en Belgique" (Julius Caesar has arrived in Belgium), "Je dirais même plus: Cules Jésar est arrivé en Gelbique" (To be precise: Culius Jaesar has arrived in Gelbium) |
| 18:31:38 | Widget | http://www.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=playerinfo&id=73&sessionid=3e6620e12bbb5089f2f4f8fa193f8345 |
| 18:32:24 | strayer | hehe.... |
| 18:32:33 | strayer | R U from france? |
| 18:32:40 | Widget | Nope. |
| 18:32:57 | Widget | Note that they use the same font and style of cartoon bubble that Hergé used in Tintin. |
| 18:33:05 | strayer | hm....how many languages can U speak/write? |
| 18:33:11 | Widget | Fluently? Only 3. |
| 18:33:17 | strayer | argh... |
| 18:33:29 | strayer | ;) |
| 18:33:57 | Widget | Struppi is the best. |
| 18:34:04 | strayer | envies Widget... |
| 18:34:05 | Widget | Tim is always so puritan.... |
| 18:34:35 | strayer | hm....he looks like the ideal figure |
| 18:34:40 | Widget | I know. |
| 18:34:47 | Widget | He never drinks, or smokes.... |
| 18:34:56 | strayer | or has love.problems |
| 18:35:02 | strayer | ... |
| 18:36:16 | strayer | Widget: U R a quite interesting person.... |
| 18:36:34 | Nicole3 | hi |
| 18:36:45 | strayer | hi nicole3 |
| 18:36:49 | Nicole3 | hi |
| 18:37:54 | Widget | hihihi, Nicole3. |
| 18:38:02 | Nicole3 | hi |
| 18:38:13 | Nicole3 | how come all of you put the number in my name? |
| 18:38:21 | Widget | Because we use auto-complete. |
| 18:38:27 | Nicole3 | ah |
| 18:38:31 | Nicole3 | got it |
| 18:38:34 | Widget | I type N and press TAB and it expands to Nicole3. |
| 18:38:43 | Nicole3 | weird |
| 18:38:57 | Widget | You can change your nick to [ult]Nicole |
| 18:39:17 | Nicole3 | i could |
| 18:39:25 | Nicole3 | but i won't |
| 18:40:09 | FantaZee | hi there |
| 18:40:14 | Nicole3 | have the froot loops even been on at all since they didn't show up for the supposed match? |
| 18:40:17 | Nicole3 | hi |
| 18:40:21 | strayer | hi FantaZee |
| 18:40:39 | | Nicole3: excuse me? |
| 18:40:39 | Nicole3 | ibot: CapN |
| 18:40:42 | Nicole3 | opp |
| 18:40:43 | Nicole3 | s |
| 18:40:48 | | Capn was last seen on #bzflag 20 hours, 43 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying: yeah i missed jzaun today [Tue Aug 6 22:57:02 2002] |
| 18:40:48 | Nicole3 | ibot: seen Capn |
| 18:40:57 | Nicole3 | i guess so |
| 18:41:01 | Nicole3 | hmm |
| 18:41:14 | Nicole3 | Widget: is there a rule if a team doesn't show up for a match? |
| 18:41:23 | Nicole3 | that something happens to them? |
| 18:41:37 | Nicole3 | like they loose points? |
| 18:41:45 | FantaZee | yes :) 2000 |
| 18:41:51 | Nicole3 | really? |
| 18:42:05 | Nicole3 | cuz the froot loops didn't show up for our last match |
| 18:42:08 | FantaZee | no, sorry :(( |
| 18:42:19 | Nicole3 | ah dratz |
| 18:43:17 | | I haven't seen 'monkey', Nicole3 |
| 18:43:17 | Nicole3 | ibot: seen monkey boy |
| 18:43:23 | FantaZee | maybe you should talk with them. there must be a reason why. |
| 18:43:25 | Nicole3 | ah stupid mixed up name |
| 18:43:32 | Nicole3 | they must have forgot |
| 18:43:36 | Nicole3 | none of them showed up |
| 18:43:40 | patlabor221 | Widget!!!!!!! |
| 18:43:41 | Nicole3 | and they've done it before |
| 18:44:08 | Nicole3 | it's not fair. |
| 18:44:19 | Nicole3 | chestal should have a rule for that |
| 18:44:59 | Nicole3 | he really should |
| 18:45:31 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:45:31 | Nicole3 | ibot: ducati |
| 18:45:41 | patlabor221 | bzbot is gone |
| 18:45:46 | Nicole3 | why? |
| 18:45:54 | patlabor221 | dono |
| 18:46:01 | patlabor221 | got locked up one day |
| 18:46:02 | | Nicole3: sorry... |
| 18:46:02 | Nicole3 | ibot: bzfrequency on ducati |
| 18:46:11 | Nicole3 | weird... |
| 18:46:14 | patlabor221 | and I think it's running on Tims machine |
| 18:46:18 | Nicole3 | well, i gotta run, bye! |
| 18:46:18 | patlabor221 | and he is on vacation |
| 18:46:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm et image Widget...well i'm lazy as a died horse |
| 18:46:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | and i'm makin music if i get over it :) |
| 18:47:34 | metal_magic | Widget? |
| 18:49:24 | metal_magic | ibot: is Widget here? :-) |
| 18:50:13 | | metal_magic: i haven't a clue |
| 18:50:13 | metal_magic | ibot: are u here? |
| 18:50:51 | metal_magic | word of the day AUTENTIFIKATION? why? |
| 18:51:05 | patlabor221 | I dono |
| 18:51:28 | [BZ]Ruudi | well she got 12 minutes idle maybe she's in tank |
| 18:52:56 | metal_magic | [BZ]Ruudi: she? |
| 18:53:03 | metal_magic | [BZ]Ruudi: Widget is she? |
| 18:53:57 | strayer | jep...she is a she |
| 18:55:52 | metal_magic | strayer: hm, never thought it :-) |
| 18:56:45 | metal_magic | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:56:47 | strayer | now U know it.... |
| 18:56:52 | metal_magic | :-) |
| 18:57:01 | | metal_magic: huh? |
| 18:57:01 | metal_magic | ibot: bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:57:35 | | bugger all, i dunno, metal_magic |
| 18:57:35 | metal_magic | ibot: i wanna know who is on ducati :-) |
| 18:57:53 | | metal_magic: excuse me? |
| 18:57:53 | metal_magic | ibot: u don't know anything |
| 18:58:03 | | bugger all, i dunno, metal_magic |
| 18:58:03 | metal_magic | ibot: who is ibot? |
| 18:58:16 | | OK, metal_magic. |
| 18:58:16 | metal_magic | ibot: ibot is a stupid bot |
| 18:58:24 | | i don't know, metal_magic |
| 18:58:25 | metal_magic | ibot: who is metal_magic? |
| 18:58:45 | | OK, metal_magic. |
| 18:58:45 | metal_magic | ibot: metal_magic is the best bzflag player |
| 19:04:58 | metal_magic | flying chestal: http://www.inzine.sk/article.asp?art=7243 :-) |
| 19:05:19 | metal_magic | on the carpet :-) |
| 19:06:51 | strayer | hehe...nice |
| 19:09:12 | metal_magic | why does not work the bzfquerybot? |
| 19:10:50 | Cell_programming | hey mali krtko |
| 19:11:11 | Cell_programming | moja najlepsia rozprauka |
| 19:11:30 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: do u understand it? :-) |
| 19:11:51 | Widget | Hehe, that's cute. Send it to Chestal. :) |
| 19:11:58 | Cell_programming | yes i am from slovakia |
| 19:12:10 | metal_magic | tak to pak jo :-) |
| 19:12:16 | Cell_programming | i lived there 10 years |
| 19:12:29 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: a ten zbytek? |
| 19:12:51 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: staty? |
| 19:13:21 | Cell_programming | ja viam celkom dobre po slovenskie ked to pochujem ale pisat nevjem tak dobre |
| 19:13:51 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: so shall i write in english? :-) |
| 19:14:04 | Cell_programming | u are from bratislava? |
| 19:14:13 | metal_magic | brno :-) |
| 19:14:17 | Cell_programming | ah |
| 19:15:02 | Widget | Translation? :) |
| 19:15:03 | metal_magic | exactly said i am from Lan¹kroun, but have been studying in Brno for 4 years |
| 19:15:28 | Cell_programming | velmi dobre |
| 19:15:42 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: and i will probably stay here |
| 19:15:58 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: u are in states now? |
| 19:16:00 | Widget | Cell_programming: How far are you? |
| 19:16:09 | Cell_programming | mate tam amerikanske zustand 'conditions' |
| 19:16:21 | Cell_programming | fine, thanks |
| 19:16:29 | Widget | Cell_programming: No, how far. |
| 19:16:32 | Widget | Cell_programming: In the program. |
| 19:16:53 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: nerozumim |
| 19:17:20 | Widget | Hehe, Amerikanische Zustände. :) |
| 19:17:35 | metal_magic | ibot: x de en Zustände |
| 19:17:36 | | metal_magic: Zust |
| 19:17:41 | Cell_programming | i have done the collision detection today, now i almost finisched a 2d test app, that helps me test the collision algo, i hope i can tomorrow have a 3d world and move around with my tank and hopefully collide |
| 19:17:50 | Widget | ibot: x de en Amerikanische Zustaende |
| 19:17:51 | | Widget: American conditions |
| 19:17:56 | Cell_programming | right |
| 19:18:01 | Widget | It's what German politicians use to talk about bad situations. |
| 19:18:05 | Widget | :) |
| 19:18:11 | Cell_programming | slovakia has american conditions |
| 19:18:29 | Cell_programming | the stores are open all hours |
| 19:18:32 | metal_magic | i am not from slovakia, so i don't care :-0 |
| 19:18:34 | metal_magic | :-) |
| 19:18:41 | Cell_programming | k |
| 19:18:55 | Widget | metal_magic: But you were born in Czechoslovakia. |
| 19:19:13 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: u are in the States now? |
| 19:19:20 | metal_magic | Widget: yes, that is true |
| 19:19:25 | Cell_programming | no im in Munich, germany |
| 19:19:43 | Cell_programming | 5 hours from bratislava with the car |
| 19:19:59 | Widget | How far from Brno? |
| 19:20:10 | Cell_programming | i guess 6-7 hours |
| 19:20:27 | Cell_programming | but dont know exactly |
| 19:20:55 | Widget | What does "Musim to tu trochu vycistit" mean? |
| 19:21:18 | Widget | And.. |
| 19:21:19 | Widget | Spr?vn? auto nalo?en? spr?vnejma lidma |
| 19:21:19 | Widget | Spr?vn? lidi nalo?en? spr?vnejma v?cma |
| 19:21:22 | Cell_programming | I must clean it up a little bit here |
| 19:21:33 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: btw anglictina je pekne pitomej jazyk. az pred chvili jsem se dozvedel, ze Widget je holka :-) |
| 19:21:51 | Cell_programming | hahaha |
| 19:22:01 | Widget | What? anglictina = English? |
| 19:22:04 | Widget | Stoppit! |
| 19:22:13 | Cell_programming | yes u got it, wow |
| 19:22:29 | Widget | The only word I can recognise. |
| 19:22:34 | Widget | Chci se bavit. |
| 19:22:42 | metal_magic | wanna have fun :-) |
| 19:22:49 | Widget | Spr?vn? auto nalo?en? spr?vnejma lidma |
| 19:22:49 | Widget | Spr?vn? lidi nalo?en? spr?vnejma v?cma |
| 19:22:55 | doughecka | is back |
| 19:23:01 | | metal_magic: i'm not following you... |
| 19:23:01 | metal_magic | ibot: x cz en Chci se bavit |
| 19:23:01 | Widget | Musim to tu trochu vycistit? |
| 19:23:02 | Cell_programming | Widget:what are u doing? |
| 19:23:13 | metal_magic | he is stupid (ibot) |
| 19:23:23 | Widget | Cell_programming: Trying to get metal_magic to translate his description on the league page. |
| 19:23:39 | Cell_programming | where |
| 19:23:54 | metal_magic | Cell_programming: mam ji to prelozit? :-) |
| 19:23:54 | Widget | Cell_programming: http://www.bzflag.org/league/ |
| 19:24:09 | Cell_programming | and then |
| 19:24:09 | Widget | Cell_programming: Click on players. You can find their favourite pictures and descriptions. |
| 19:24:34 | captain_proton | omg |
| 19:24:42 | Widget | OMGOMGOMGLOL. |
| 19:24:43 | captain_proton | ibiblio has music for download |
| 19:24:45 | Widget | Oh. |
| 19:25:02 | metal_magic | btw Widget, i wanted to ask you, what do u dislike on my photo, but had quit from bzflag |
| 19:25:06 | metal_magic | Widget: well ... :-) |
| 19:25:13 | Widget | metal_magic: Nothing. I was just wondering. :) |
| 19:25:21 | Widget | "I cannot see red shots." |
| 19:25:21 | Widget | "Killed by lag." |
| 19:25:21 | Widget | "My radar is broken." |
| 19:25:21 | Widget | "My computer is too slow." |
| 19:25:45 | captain_proton | ncftp ...edia/chinese-music/MP3 > get YR05.Lament_to_Yellow_River.mp3 |
| 19:25:47 | captain_proton | :) |
| 19:26:00 | Widget | Oh, yes.. I have a friend who downloads many Communist songs from ther. |
| 19:26:12 | Widget | Check if they have "Dongfang hong" (The east is red, East getting red) |
| 19:27:25 | captain_proton | what category would it be in? |
| 19:27:40 | Widget | I guess under Chinese music. |
| 19:27:49 | Widget | What subcategories within that are there? |
| 19:28:08 | captain_proton | .cache Children/ Educated_Youth/ Long_March/ Pre_Liberation/ index-old.html |
| 19:28:10 | captain_proton | .i2crc Culture_Revolution/ Folk_Music/ MP3/ README index-old2.html |
| 19:28:10 | captain_proton | .nsr Current_Hits/ Foreign_Origin/ Modern_Pops/ Taiwan_Ceremonial/ index.html |
| 19:28:10 | captain_proton | 00.ls-lR Deng_LiJun/ Historical_Voices/ Northwestern_Wind/ Taiwan_HongKong/ |
| 19:28:13 | captain_proton | Beijing_Opera/ Dream_Of_Red_Mansion/ How_To_Play_Audio/ Post_Gang_Of_Four/ Traditional_Music/ |
| 19:28:14 | captain_proton | Ceremonial_Music/ East_Is_Red/ INDEX Post_Liberation/ |
| 19:28:24 | Widget | East_Is_Red |
| 19:28:41 | captain_proton | ah :P |
| 19:28:43 | Cell_programming | i saw taiwan |
| 19:28:56 | Widget | Become a Government Informer ... Betray your family and friends ... fabulous prizes to be won! |
| 19:29:02 | Widget | Cell_programming: Where did you go in Taiwan? |
| 19:29:18 | metal_magic | Widget: if u wanna know from where i have that sentences on my bzleague page, you can try: |
| 19:29:30 | metal_magic | http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/~xkolaja/tmp/ |
| 19:29:32 | Cell_programming | to the cd burner shop,but it was in thailand, sorry |
| 19:29:33 | metal_magic | shit |
| 19:29:37 | Widget | Ah. :) |
| 19:29:46 | metal_magic | http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/~xkolaja/tmp/13-Chci-se-bavit.mp3 |
| 19:30:25 | Widget | My grandfather visited a month back.... he had the radio on 24/7 to improve his English. |
| 19:30:33 | Cell_programming | just have to stop Lenny Kravitz and hearing: Do u want to have fun? |
| 19:31:28 | Widget | captain_proton: Where is this ebiblio Chinese music? |
| 19:31:41 | metal_magic | Widget: the translation could be: |
| 19:31:46 | Widget | captain_proton: Some of the Communist music is really funny, if you can understand it (or get a translation) |
| 19:31:47 | captain_proton | Widget: ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/multimedia |
| 19:32:15 | metal_magic | The right car loaded with the right people |
| 19:32:20 | Widget | Ah. :) |
| 19:32:32 | metal_magic | The right people loaded with the right things |
| 19:32:36 | Cell_programming | posnas zbirka |
| 19:32:41 | metal_magic | jasne |
| 19:33:06 | Widget | Cell_programming: You should join At nam vlaji vlasy. :) |
| 19:33:08 | Cell_programming | stara kazeta co uz dlho mam |
| 19:33:44 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 19:33:52 | captain_proton | they have taiwanese music too |
| 19:33:54 | Cell_programming | ;) im not that play licentiously |
| 19:34:08 | Widget | captain_proton: Yah... my dad has a tape of Taiwanese military songs. |
| 19:34:14 | Widget | captain_proton: What do they have? |
| 19:34:29 | captain_proton | Widget: look for yourself |
| 19:34:42 | Widget | It's not loading. |
| 19:34:48 | Widget | tries ftp. |
| 19:35:23 | Widget | All in au format? |
| 19:35:41 | captain_proton | most of it |
| 19:36:20 | Widget | Beijing Opera is funny. |
| 19:36:43 | Widget | Ah, they have the famous Taiwanese national anthem. |
| 19:37:00 | Widget | J01.ROC_National_Anthem.au |
| 19:37:09 | Widget | /pub/multimedia/chinese-music/Taiwan_Ceremonial |
| 19:37:24 | Widget | Interesting..... |
| 19:37:38 | Widget | Why do they have a song entitled J09.In_Memory_of_President_Jiang.au under "Taiwan_Ceremonial"? |
| 19:37:48 | metal_magic | i wonder wheter in taiwan or china are downloading american music and laughing :-) |
| 19:38:24 | patlabor221 | I'm sure they are |
| 19:38:46 | Widget | Hahahahaha, those people still believe in capitalism! |
| 19:39:20 | captain_proton | its a shame that china is largely a capitalist nation now :P |
| 19:39:32 | Widget | They still call themselves Communist though. |
| 19:39:47 | Widget | can play the Taiwanese national anthem on the harmonica. :) |
| 19:39:51 | captain_proton | right |
| 19:40:20 | Widget | San min zhuyi wu guo suo zong... yi jian min guo, yi jin Datong. |
| 19:40:35 | Widget | ^^^^ Communist romanisation |
| 19:40:35 | strayer | Widget seems to can do nearly everything |
| 19:40:40 | | metal_magic: i'm not following you... |
| 19:40:40 | metal_magic | ibot: x ch en San min zhuyi wu guo suo zong... yi jian min guo, yi jin Datong |
| 19:40:42 | Cell_programming | just a faq: if i jump and have angular velocity, do my mothion paht describe a curve, or is my motion paht a stright line? |
| 19:40:47 | Widget | metal_magic: Try zh. |
| 19:40:53 | | metal_magic: excuse me? |
| 19:40:53 | metal_magic | ibot: x zh en San min zhuyi wu guo suo zong... yi jian min guo, yi jin Datong |
| 19:41:01 | Widget | Oh, well. that didn't work either. |
| 19:41:04 | captain_proton | Cell_programming: only angular velocity or both angular and linear? |
| 19:41:11 | Cell_programming | both |
| 19:41:13 | captain_proton | if its only angular, you go straight up and fall straight down |
| 19:41:20 | Cell_programming | k |
| 19:41:22 | captain_proton | with both, your motion is a parabola |
| 19:41:23 | strayer | says: good night.... |
| 19:41:27 | captain_proton | but you're spinning through the parabola |
| 19:41:28 | Widget | Goodnight, strayer. |
| 19:41:28 | Cell_programming | sure? |
| 19:42:00 | Cell_programming | i mean the mothion path from frame x to frame x+1 |
| 19:42:28 | Cell_programming | if not jumping |
| 19:42:58 | captain_proton | when you jump, the path you go through is always a parabola |
| 19:43:04 | captain_proton | angular velocity doesn't apply |
| 19:43:26 | Cell_programming | strange? |
| 19:43:27 | Widget | Or nearly always. With large masses it's virtually always a parabola, but sometimes not... |
| 19:43:28 | Widget | :) |
| 19:43:56 | captain_proton | the angular velocity dictates what direction you'll be facing |
| 19:44:01 | captain_proton | but not the position of the tank |
| 19:44:08 | Cell_programming | because angular velocity only causes to rotate around the center of mass |
| 19:44:15 | Cell_programming | yes |
| 19:44:30 | Cell_programming | oh now i understan, k |
| 19:44:36 | captain_proton | Widget: air resistance can kiss my ass |
| 19:45:04 | Cell_programming | but facing direction changes,k |
| 19:45:14 | Cell_programming | thats why parabel |
| 19:45:55 | Widget | captain_proton: No, no, small particles often do not jump in a parabolic path. As their mass increases, it becomes much more likely that they follow a parabola, but there's still a small chance they they won't, yes? |
| 19:46:00 | captain_proton | wanders off to defrost some tamales |
| 19:46:32 | Widget | DFH27.Long_Live_Chairman_Mao.au |
| 19:46:42 | metal_magic | tamales? |
| 19:46:46 | metal_magic | what is it? |
| 19:46:56 | | i haven't a clue, widget |
| 19:46:56 | Widget | ibot: tamale? |
| 19:47:33 | metal_magic | Widget: how is it possible, that Widget is a female nick? :-) |
| 19:47:49 | metal_magic | Widget: it doesn't sound like a female nick :-) |
| 19:47:53 | Widget | It's neither. |
| 19:48:01 | Widget | It's a button or something in GTK+. |
| 19:48:02 | Cell_programming | spicy mexican dish wrapped in cornmeal dough and fried in corn husks |
| 19:48:27 | Cell_programming | of choppe dmeat |
| 19:48:52 | Widget | cornmeal dough rolled with ground meat or beans seasoned usually with chili, wrapped usually in corn husks, and steamed |
| 19:49:05 | Cell_programming | haha |
| 19:49:08 | Widget | Etymology: Mexican Spanish tamales, plural of tamal tamale, from Nahuatl tamalli steamed cornmeal dough |
| 19:49:20 | Cell_programming | haha |
| 19:49:21 | metal_magic | Widget: but i heard you are a girl :-) |
| 19:49:31 | Widget | metal_magic: So? |
| 19:49:43 | Cell_programming | name is a hint |
| 19:49:45 | Widget | metal_magic: Widget is a cool word. |
| 19:49:51 | Widget | Hehe, all these Communist songs are in the Beijing dialect. |
| 19:50:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | Avanti Poppolo |
| 19:50:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | spell it as latin :P |
| 19:50:14 | metal_magic | Widget: is not cool word :-) |
| 19:50:19 | Widget | Is so! |
| 19:50:24 | metal_magic | isnt :-) |
| 19:50:27 | Widget | Is! |
| 19:50:30 | [BZ]Ruudi | means Red Flag and its a nice communistic song |
| 19:50:35 | captain_proton | CocoaWidget |
| 19:50:36 | Widget | Ah. :) |
| 19:50:42 | metal_magic | is not :-) |
| 19:50:46 | Widget | [Xaw]Widget |
| 19:50:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | avanti poppolo alaris kossa pandero rossa triomfera |
| 19:50:52 | captain_proton | haha xaw |
| 19:51:17 | Widget | Xaw xaw xaw. |
| 19:51:56 | | metal_magic: excuse me? |
| 19:51:56 | metal_magic | ibot: x "some language" "some normal language" xaw |
| 19:52:20 | patlabor221 | cap: i shall be making more icons for you tongiht |
| 19:53:21 | metal_magic | what is with xaw? |
| 19:53:28 | Widget | Haha, "Long live Chairman Mao" is the funniest song ever. |
| 19:53:29 | metal_magic | it is a library, isn't it? |
| 19:53:35 | Widget | Xaw is X Athena Widgets. |
| 19:53:54 | metal_magic | athena ... our new server :-) |
| 19:53:59 | Widget | Mao zhuxi wan sui! |
| 19:54:12 | metal_magic | but will be aurora soon :-) |
| 19:54:14 | Widget | Zhongguo chu liao ge Mao Zedong! |
| 19:54:42 | Widget | I have to restart. |
| 19:54:46 | metal_magic | what the hell is this? do you speak chinese? |
| 19:54:52 | Widget | Yes. |
| 19:55:02 | patlabor221 | nihow |
| 20:00:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | is there some action in ducati? |
| 20:01:11 | captain_proton | returns |
| 20:01:20 | metal_magic | Widget: i thought to myself Zhang is not typical american name :-) |
| 20:01:26 | captain_proton | x athena widgets = ugliest farking toolkit ever created |
| 20:01:33 | Widget | This is true. |
| 20:01:37 | Widget | But it's universal! |
| 20:01:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | Zhang - arabic? |
| 20:01:41 | Widget | Everyone has Xaw. |
| 20:01:46 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: Zhang = Chinese |
| 20:01:46 | [BZ]Ruudi | china |
| 20:01:52 | captain_proton | Widget: i don't have xaw ;) |
| 20:01:52 | Widget | The most common last name in the world! |
| 20:01:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | nyeah |
| 20:02:01 | Widget | captain_proton: Well, you're just a contrarian. |
| 20:02:17 | [BZ]Ruudi | i got estonian name...but it comes from Daniel or something |
| 20:02:55 | Widget | metal_magic: Besides, I'm not American. |
| 20:02:58 | metal_magic | i am glad my name is not so common (everyone can find me on google than :-)) |
| 20:03:00 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: What's your name again? |
| 20:03:06 | metal_magic | Widget: and what? |
| 20:03:21 | Widget | metal_magic: /me is a Kiwi. |
| 20:03:23 | Widget | Hm. |
| 20:03:26 | captain_proton | mmmmm....lunch.... |
| 20:03:27 | Widget | http://www.imperialism.ca/ |
| 20:03:35 | Widget | It turns out the Canadians are trying to take over the world. |
| 20:03:38 | metal_magic | Widget: ha! you are from one team and dont know your names? :-) |
| 20:03:40 | Widget | This isn't good. |
| 20:03:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | Tanel |
| 20:03:49 | Widget | Ah. |
| 20:03:51 | Widget | Yes. |
| 20:03:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | and last name is Põld - means field |
| 20:04:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | field where you grow eating plants like potatoes and so on |
| 20:04:25 | Widget | Ah. :) |
| 20:04:29 | Widget | They grow potatoes in Estonia? |
| 20:04:44 | captain_proton | how come there are so many half-started open-source games out there? |
| 20:04:57 | Widget | How come there isn't more? |
| 20:05:46 | captain_proton | its just - people start something, code it to the point where it looks like it -could- be a kickass game, then abandon |
| 20:05:47 | metal_magic | so called estonia potatoes :-) |
| 20:05:54 | [BZ]Ruudi | Hmm potatoes yeah estonian eat lot of potatoes....i like em too Widget :) |
| 20:06:49 | Widget | has a project due later today. |
| 20:06:52 | Widget | ANd i haven't done my part. |
| 20:07:01 | Widget | Hopefully someone else will do the whole thing like last time. :) |
| 20:12:44 | [BZ]Ruudi | can bone sing through the flesh? |
| 20:12:47 | [BZ]Ruudi | :) |
| 20:16:57 | [BZ]Ruudi | let's pretend heavy shooters! |
| 20:17:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | show THE finger to the UFOs |
| 20:18:23 | [BZ]Ruudi | pick one? |
| 20:18:40 | metal_magic | finger ufo1@ufos.extraterrestial.intelligence :-) |
| 20:19:26 | Widget | finger xkolaja@triton.fi.muni.cz |
| 20:20:02 | metal_magic | Widget: fingerd should be filtered from out of muni.cz |
| 20:20:20 | Widget | [triton.fi.muni.cz] |
| 20:20:20 | Widget | Login: xkolaja Name: Marcel Kolaja |
| 20:20:20 | Widget | Directory: /home/xkolaja Shell: /bin/bash |
| 20:20:20 | metal_magic | Widget: have to try aurora.fi.muni.cz :-) |
| 20:20:26 | metal_magic | wow |
| 20:20:38 | Widget | Plan: |
| 20:20:38 | Widget | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 20:20:38 | Widget | Petition For A Software Patent Free Europe http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |
| 20:20:38 | Widget | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 20:20:41 | metal_magic | hm, it isn't :-) |
| 20:20:45 | metal_magic | nevermind :-) |
| 20:21:08 | Widget | Is Chestal thilo@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de ? |
| 20:21:31 | metal_magic | yes he is |
| 20:21:38 | metal_magic | i guess :-) |
| 20:21:49 | metal_magic | do you know what is interesting |
| 20:21:50 | metal_magic | ? |
| 20:21:51 | Widget | Hm.... I don't think they have fingerd running. |
| 20:21:53 | Widget | What? |
| 20:22:08 | metal_magic | i tried to find some people on google |
| 20:22:17 | metal_magic | Axelle Zhang |
| 20:22:34 | metal_magic | Jeff Myers |
| 20:22:40 | Widget | :) |
| 20:22:53 | metal_magic | Frank Thilo |
| 20:23:05 | Widget | Feank tThilo should be easy to find. |
| 20:23:07 | Widget | Yes. |
| 20:23:10 | metal_magic | but have found only Chestal |
| 20:23:12 | Widget | www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/english/ |
| 20:23:17 | metal_magic | and other .... nothing |
| 20:23:22 | metal_magic | how is it possible? |
| 20:23:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | needs some ram into hes box |
| 20:23:50 | Widget | They don't have webpages, and don't use newsgroups? |
| 20:24:03 | metal_magic | if you try to find marcel kolaja it is OK too |
| 20:24:08 | Widget | Wow.... speak of the devil. |
| 20:24:25 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:24:25 | Chestal | ibot, ducati |
| 20:24:27 | bzbot | damn (R): -10 (28-38). Jonny (R): -6 (18-24). Fanta (G): 1 (3-2). M1 (G): 50 (177-127). SGI (G): 8 (127-119). |
| 20:25:03 | metal_magic | is here anyone who doesn't have a webpage or doesn't use newsgroups? |
| 20:25:40 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:25:58 | captain_proton | argH! |
| 20:26:02 | captain_proton | too many ideas for games |
| 20:26:06 | captain_proton | patlabor221: here, you decide: |
| 20:26:24 | Widget | How come captain_proton and Chestal don't have fingerd running? |
| 20:26:32 | captain_proton | (a) pong (b) bza (c) take up 'bitstream' (starfox-like game) |
| 20:26:41 | Widget | Pong! |
| 20:27:29 | Chestal | widget: I think most machines do not have an (accesable) fingerd nowadays |
| 20:27:41 | Chestal | bza? |
| 20:27:51 | Widget | finger xkolaja@triton.fi.muni.cz |
| 20:28:04 | captain_proton | Chestal: http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/ |
| 20:29:24 | metal_magic | Widget: you don't answer not only to finger but to ping too :-) |
| 20:29:39 | patlabor221 | bza is prolaby the least furthest along |
| 20:29:52 | Widget | You can't run servers with citylink. |
| 20:29:55 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yes |
| 20:30:00 | captain_proton | but which to work on? |
| 20:30:16 | patlabor221 | what it closest to completion? |
| 20:30:26 | captain_proton | i'll be satisfied with the completeness of pong in a day or so, but i don't know whether to continue working on it or do something else |
| 20:30:28 | Chestal | hmm, www.artemisgames.com itself is a dead end? |
| 20:30:48 | patlabor221 | yeah I need to make a new home page |
| 20:30:55 | captain_proton | hmm, i dunno |
| 20:31:07 | captain_proton | bitstream was just started enough to make me think 'ooh, that would be cool' |
| 20:31:19 | captain_proton | i haven't yet seen bza |
| 20:31:37 | doughecka | hey patlabor221! |
| 20:31:41 | patlabor221 | jesss |
| 20:31:45 | doughecka | has the worse dsl on the planet |
| 20:31:51 | patlabor221 | well I sent you the code |
| 20:31:58 | doughecka | stays on for 10 min, off for 30 min |
| 20:32:16 | patlabor221 | get direct TV DSL it roxors the boxors |
| 20:32:32 | captain_proton | doesn't mean i've even started trying to compile it |
| 20:32:36 | doughecka | hmm, its not the ISP, its the phone line |
| 20:32:45 | patlabor221 | move :) |
| 20:32:51 | doughecka | haha |
| 20:32:55 | metal_magic | Chestal? |
| 20:32:57 | doughecka | maybe, just maybe... |
| 20:33:49 | patlabor221 | but I do hear that people on the fringe have issues |
| 20:33:57 | doughecka | yes |
| 20:34:09 | doughecka | I am way off the fringe too |
| 20:34:13 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:34:24 | doughecka | its really bad today |
| 20:35:39 | patlabor221 | I don't think there is anything you can specificly do |
| 20:35:44 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:35:52 | doughecka | hehe |
| 20:35:58 | captain_proton | bitstream would need to be completely rewritten (not a huge endeavor) |
| 20:36:00 | doughecka | get cable or fiber optic |
| 20:36:01 | patlabor221 | cap: I mean BZA was just a temp name |
| 20:36:03 | captain_proton | all the geometry is hard-coded |
| 20:36:12 | patlabor221 | ick |
| 20:36:17 | captain_proton | wanders off |
| 20:37:15 | patlabor221 | I hope to finsh BZA, but I don't know what it will be called |
| 20:37:21 | patlabor221 | game play will be difrent form BZ |
| 20:37:35 | patlabor221 | flags will only be used in CTF |
| 20:38:12 | patlabor221 | and ohhh whill they be prety flags |
| 20:38:24 | doughecka | hehe |
| 20:39:16 | patlabor221 | and it won't be one hit one kill |
| 20:40:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.valgamaa.ee/Ringtee/Skipheads/ -- Some tank music |
| 20:44:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | and someone wanna come into non ctf ducati i'm there... |
| 20:46:24 | Widget | OK. |
| 20:46:52 | Widget | You're not there! |
| 20:47:08 | [BZ]Ruudi | i'm there now i was ghost i guess |
| 20:50:54 | metal_magic | it's bedtime |
| 20:50:55 | metal_magic | cu |
| 20:55:00 | captain_proton | returns |
| 20:55:51 | patlabor221 | where did you wander too? |
| 20:56:03 | patlabor221 | widget how much of the mac API do you know? |
| 20:56:11 | captain_proton | had some stuff to take care of |
| 20:56:39 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 20:57:22 | patlabor221 | hates manualy duplicating an labaling CDs |
| 20:58:09 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:58:19 | captain_proton | i should burn some mp3s to cd for the weekend |
| 20:58:21 | captain_proton | (leaving) |
| 20:58:46 | patlabor221 | back to the school thing? |
| 20:58:50 | captain_proton | nah |
| 20:58:57 | captain_proton | going mountain biking over the weekend |
| 20:59:12 | patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 20:59:36 | captain_proton | going back to school means about a 10 minute drive |
| 21:02:24 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:02:30 | captain_proton | 5 extra cd's is probably enough :) |
| 21:05:47 | patlabor221 | you live at school or home? |
| 21:06:12 | captain_proton | live at home right now, live at school in a few weeks |
| 21:07:49 | patlabor221 | that close and you live at school |
| 21:07:54 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 21:08:04 | captain_proton | impossible to park on/near campus |
| 21:08:10 | captain_proton | and the internet connection is better ;) |
| 21:08:12 | patlabor221 | well you proalby get better bandwith |
| 21:09:02 | patlabor221 | hey bzbot it back |
| 21:10:04 | patlabor221 | I should proalby make a design doc for bza |
| 21:10:11 | patlabor221 | and think of a better name |
| 21:10:31 | patlabor221 | cap you could help cell on his "1 week bz replaement" :) |
| 21:11:18 | captain_proton | nah - there are better things to do ;) |
| 21:11:26 | patlabor221 | you sure |
| 21:11:41 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 21:11:42 | patlabor221 | his design is "helecopters and engery barrels" |
| 21:11:44 | captain_proton | like bitstream |
| 21:11:56 | patlabor221 | seems you've made up your mind |
| 21:12:12 | captain_proton | *nod* |
| 21:12:20 | patlabor221 | you think you can port my texture manager first tho? |
| 21:12:50 | captain_proton | lets take a lookie |
| 21:13:09 | patlabor221 | the only thing that is windows speciefic is the dir recursion |
| 21:13:26 | patlabor221 | and te Bitmap info headers |
| 21:14:19 | captain_proton | looks like its married to MFC too :P |
| 21:15:24 | patlabor221 | how? |
| 21:15:30 | captain_proton | CTextureManager...bleh |
| 21:15:37 | patlabor221 | ohh live iwth it |
| 21:15:45 | captain_proton | slaps patlabor221 with a unix manual |
| 21:15:49 | patlabor221 | it dosnt use MFC |
| 21:15:55 | patlabor221 | good thing I don't use linux |
| 21:15:58 | patlabor221 | or unitx |
| 21:16:06 | patlabor221 | code is code |
| 21:16:17 | patlabor221 | it will run anywhere regarless of name |
| 21:16:22 | captain_proton | sure i can't rename it to TextureManager? ;) |
| 21:16:28 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 21:16:31 | patlabor221 | it's a class |
| 21:16:39 | doughecka | waves at patlabor221 |
| 21:16:40 | patlabor221 | instanaces of it are oTextureMan |
| 21:16:44 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 21:16:50 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:16:56 | doughecka | dsl is very bad today |
| 21:17:01 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hungarian notation has no farking place in C++ |
| 21:17:04 | patlabor221 | can you get cable |
| 21:17:11 | doughecka | ugh |
| 21:17:12 | patlabor221 | sure it does |
| 21:17:12 | doughecka | slow |
| 21:17:29 | patlabor221 | if it helps the developer code faster and cleaner |
| 21:17:31 | patlabor221 | then it does |
| 21:17:46 | captain_proton | but it doesn't help! |
| 21:17:52 | captain_proton | it was invented because C wasn't type safe |
| 21:17:52 | patlabor221 | it helps me |
| 21:17:56 | Chestal | code using hungarian notation usually suffers from very bad naming of variables in my experience |
| 21:18:02 | captain_proton | and C++ is, and everybody things it still helps them |
| 21:18:26 | patlabor221 | well are my variable names bad otherwise |
| 21:18:39 | patlabor221 | cap: zellots don't get jobs in the real world |
| 21:18:55 | patlabor221 | when you are one of 10developers |
| 21:18:56 | captain_proton | patlabor221: i use it when its the standard on a project |
| 21:19:16 | patlabor221 | it's been standard on every project I have worked on |
| 21:19:29 | captain_proton | and employers don't ask your opinion on hungarian notation at the interview ;) |
| 21:19:37 | Chestal | it doesn't even matter if it's helpful or not: it's ugly - case closed .-) |
| 21:19:58 | patlabor221 | see but I don't use full notation |
| 21:20:35 | patlabor221 | just one or 2 letters |
| 21:20:37 | patlabor221 | usualy 1 |
| 21:21:06 | patlabor221 | cap how would you difirentiate between a class, an object, and a list of those classes? |
| 21:21:25 | captain_proton | patlabor221: classes have the first letter capitalized, variables do not |
| 21:21:39 | Chestal | hmm, a name clash between a class and an object is very rare IMHO |
| 21:21:40 | patlabor221 | ok, what about typedefs? |
| 21:21:44 | | 63.13 |
| 21:21:45 | doughecka | ibot 32.00 - 7.00 + 14.00 - 6.00 + 40.13 - 10.00 |
| 21:21:49 | captain_proton | typedefs are classes ;) |
| 21:21:51 | doughecka | Mmm |
| 21:21:53 | Chestal | object names should express the role of the object, not their type |
| 21:22:05 | patlabor221 | true |
| 21:22:12 | patlabor221 | but sometmes there role is there type |
| 21:22:13 | Chestal | why should I mix up class and object names? |
| 21:22:17 | patlabor221 | like a Texture manger |
| 21:22:36 | Chestal | singleton? |
| 21:22:47 | patlabor221 | there is usualy only 1 |
| 21:22:51 | patlabor221 | but I have used multiples |
| 21:22:56 | patlabor221 | on ocasions |
| 21:23:19 | Chestal | if I ca think of no good name I can just use a variation of the class name |
| 21:23:22 | patlabor221 | when there are multiple there names are there use |
| 21:23:31 | Chestal | I see no ral point in making a big convention f it |
| 21:23:34 | patlabor221 | my variation is replacing the C with an o |
| 21:23:41 | Chestal | thre are much more important issues IMHO |
| 21:23:47 | patlabor221 | I agree |
| 21:23:49 | captain_proton | goes to deencode these mp3s to wavs |
| 21:23:51 | | 99.23 |
| 21:23:51 | doughecka | ibot 32.00 - 7.00 + 14.00 - 6.00 + 40.13 - 10.00 + 44.10 -8 |
| 21:23:56 | doughecka | hoo |
| 21:23:58 | doughecka | almost |
| 21:23:59 | patlabor221 | so cap can you port it |
| 21:24:03 | patlabor221 | hello widget |
| 21:24:07 | doughecka | hey Widget |
| 21:24:11 | Chestal | and these more important issues are rarely stadardized |
| 21:24:32 | patlabor221 | I think as long as a project is consistent then there is no confusion |
| 21:24:50 | Chestal | luckily, at msot tiems, my code really is mine |
| 21:25:06 | Chestal | that is the part of a project I am working one, is in my rsponsibility |
| 21:25:11 | Chestal | and noone else messes with it anywa |
| 21:25:23 | Chestal | and when they do, they'd do the wrong things |
| 21:25:25 | patlabor221 | I just resent the impication that just cus my classes start with C that it's "maried" to MFC |
| 21:25:58 | doughecka | wonders if all programmers do is yell at each other about the code. |
| 21:26:08 | captain_proton | patlabor221: doesn't look too difficult |
| 21:26:10 | patlabor221 | I have to deal with windows and MFC on a daily basis, so it helps to have it all be the same |
| 21:26:12 | patlabor221 | yes we do |
| 21:26:16 | Chestal | dough: yep, that's because they consider themselves artists |
| 21:26:20 | captain_proton | patlabor221: bwahahaha |
| 21:26:23 | Chestal | and artists are very fond of their works usually |
| 21:26:24 | patlabor221 | then we bust out some code then go roller skating |
| 21:26:42 | doughecka | hehe |
| 21:26:43 | patlabor221 | well we work hard on this stuff |
| 21:27:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | bye |
| 21:27:08 | Chestal | bye ruuuudi |
| 21:27:08 | doughecka | cya |
| 21:27:22 | patlabor221 | now if you want crap naming and API implementaion |
| 21:27:34 | doughecka | , |
| 21:27:36 | patlabor221 | think of a port of the mac OS toolkit ported to DOS |
| 21:27:42 | captain_proton | ewwwwww |
| 21:27:42 | patlabor221 | then port that to windows |
| 21:27:45 | doughecka | yuk! |
| 21:27:51 | patlabor221 | then use it for the entire basis of you app |
| 21:28:10 | doughecka | haha, thats run under wine... |
| 21:28:31 | patlabor221 | don't think we can work in wine |
| 21:28:37 | doughecka | imagines a Beowulf cluster of those... |
| 21:28:38 | patlabor221 | we need a paralles port driver |
| 21:28:52 | doughecka | oh |
| 21:28:53 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:29:00 | patlabor221 | security device and all |
| 21:29:12 | doughecka | hehe |
| 21:29:56 | Chestal | someone recommend a book to me please |
| 21:29:57 | patlabor221 | well we did just make a magor change to our low level mac emualtion layer |
| 21:30:10 | doughecka | mac emulation? |
| 21:30:13 | patlabor221 | ringworld |
| 21:30:27 | doughecka | Mmm |
| 21:30:29 | doughecka | ok... |
| 21:30:31 | Chestal | hmm, what's that? scifi? fantasy? |
| 21:30:38 | patlabor221 | scifi |
| 21:30:48 | captain_proton | lubs ringworld |
| 21:30:57 | Chestal | Larry Niven, hmm |
| 21:31:02 | patlabor221 | the later ones started to be not so good |
| 21:31:07 | captain_proton | or anything by kathleen ann goonan |
| 21:31:10 | patlabor221 | but the first, most well done |
| 21:31:10 | doughecka | oh yea.. |
| 21:31:33 | patlabor221 | has been reding will gibson again and liking it |
| 21:32:01 | Chestal | maybe a little SciFI wouldn't hurt |
| 21:32:20 | Chestal | although I am more into classical literature right now |
| 21:32:22 | doughecka | hmm, http://www.theonion.com/onion3011/cola.html |
| 21:32:29 | captain_proton | patlabor221: go find some goonan - you'll be amazed :) |
| 21:33:00 | Chestal | anyne ever tried this: http://www.puttyworld.com/ ? |
| 21:33:30 | patlabor221 | ohh that one is soo oold doug |
| 21:33:41 | doughecka | yea yea |
| 21:37:13 | jzaun | yay :-) I finally got the terain for my next map done, jzaun.static.telerama.com:5155 if ya wanna check it out |
| 21:37:27 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:37:42 | doughecka | is the server up ojn the list? |
| 21:39:47 | sussudio | haaaa that was fun |
| 21:40:18 | sussudio | another day another map annoyed |
| 21:50:02 | doughecka | oh? |
| 21:53:49 | sussudio | yes |
| 21:54:15 | sussudio | my evil side, captain underpants |
| 21:55:43 | doughecka | thats you? |
| 21:55:44 | doughecka | oooh |
| 21:55:52 | sussudio | i drove them all away |
| 21:56:17 | sussudio | i think it was the combination of not giving a crap when being shot and my quoting of popsongs in CAPS every time someone shot me |
| 21:58:35 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:59:00 | sussudio | also my lag is much less now that i have a switch instead of a hub |
| 22:13:59 | patlabor221 | cap: port :)? |
| 22:16:36 | captain_proton | patlabor221: burning cds |
| 22:18:25 | doughecka | patlabor221: how about those drives? |
| 22:18:26 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:18:33 | doughecka | (this is called nagging) |
| 22:18:47 | doughecka | *cough* *cough* |
| 22:22:11 | captain_proton | patlabor221: since i'm porting this, any desire to work on this game? ;) |
| 22:26:47 | sussudio | using cheatbots will put you in hell you know... |
| 22:30:21 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:30:21 | doughecka | ibot ducati? |
| 22:30:22 | bzbot | [meq] freelancer (R): 0 (1-1). Jonny (G): 5 (46-41). #5 (G): -16 (47-63). M1 (R): 25 (107-82). Casualty (R): -14 (15-29). bzdoug (G): 0 (1-1). |
| 22:30:45 | | sussudio: huh? |
| 22:30:45 | sussudio | ibot jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:30:51 | sussudio | :-P |
| 22:31:05 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 22:31:05 | sussudio | ibot jzaun? |
| 22:31:06 | | doughecka: i'm not following you... |
| 22:31:06 | doughecka | ibot jzaoun |
| 22:31:07 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:31:23 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 22:31:23 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 22:31:24 | bzbot | Molybdenum (R): -1 (0-1). beef (P): 0 (0-0). aouzl (B): -8 (2-10). |
| 22:31:25 | sussudio | yes that's because everyone left with the shithead cheatbot there...... |
| 22:31:40 | sussudio | which i believe is in this channel |
| 22:31:46 | captain_proton | ? |
| 22:31:59 | sussudio | someone is being a dork |
| 22:32:01 | jzaun | what server? decks or the rotateing server? |
| 22:32:06 | sussudio | decks |
| 22:32:17 | captain_proton | if there's ever a cheatbot you can come grab me |
| 22:32:34 | sussudio | guided missiles in a level without flags....... |
| 22:32:52 | captain_proton | but what makes you think the person is here? |
| 22:32:52 | doughecka | eh? |
| 22:33:04 | sussudio | because they used my misspelled nick |
| 22:33:17 | patlabor221 | doug: I haven't been to that job in over a week, so I didn't get to test yours or caps |
| 22:33:26 | patlabor221 | or pick up the DVD that I'll send you |
| 22:33:29 | doughecka | patlabor221: hehe |
| 22:33:30 | patlabor221 | but they are there |
| 22:33:32 | doughecka | busy man |
| 22:33:33 | patlabor221 | cap what game |
| 22:33:38 | captain_proton | patlabor221: the starfox-like one |
| 22:33:38 | patlabor221 | yeah this last week was hell |
| 22:33:48 | patlabor221 | last week I worked 54 hours |
| 22:33:55 | sussudio | in a row? |
| 22:33:57 | patlabor221 | then 7.8 on that saturday |
| 22:34:06 | patlabor221 | no not in a row thankfully |
| 22:34:11 | patlabor221 | sorry 7.8 wunsay |
| 22:34:14 | patlabor221 | sunday |
| 22:34:31 | patlabor221 | cap: show me |
| 22:34:35 | sussudio | bah when we were young we worked 72 hours in a row and got 5 cents an hour |
| 22:34:52 | patlabor221 | well then when you were young, you were very very stupid |
| 22:35:14 | sussudio | well that could be from the inhaling of fumes |
| 22:35:19 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, you have a gl-enabled linux box? |
| 22:35:24 | jzaun | sussudio: the guy isn't on decks anymore... |
| 22:35:30 | sussudio | i have |
| 22:35:44 | patlabor221 | yes at home |
| 22:35:57 | captain_proton | patlabor221: tonight, tell me and i'll dcc ya the tarball |
| 22:35:58 | patlabor221 | more of a laptop then a box |
| 22:36:01 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 22:36:05 | patlabor221 | now windows version? |
| 22:36:17 | sussudio | i have a problem with linux..... when i do the 'best' linear setting the screen gets screwed up |
| 22:37:19 | captain_proton | sussudio: what video card? |
| 22:37:29 | sussudio | ati radeon 7200 aiw |
| 22:37:31 | captain_proton | patlabor221: naw, the thing i found is just a very basic start |
| 22:37:38 | captain_proton | hmm, can't help ya |
| 22:37:40 | sussudio | the walls disappear |
| 22:37:40 | captain_proton | ask in #dri |
| 22:38:34 | sussudio | well its not like i play much under linux |
| 23:29:27 | BZFrank | hi |
| 23:36:21 | patlabor221 | capL is there plan for windows on it? |
| 23:36:24 | patlabor221 | hey frank |
| 23:38:12 | patlabor221 | wow now that's a large AVI |
| 23:38:19 | patlabor221 | 737 megs |
| 23:39:42 | | sussudio: no idea |
| 23:39:42 | sussudio | ibot decks? |
| 23:39:51 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 23:39:51 | sussudio | ibot jzaun? |
| 23:39:53 | bzbot | captain underpants (P): -24 (26-50). Liquid Evil (r): -12 (10-22). adam (R): 0 (12-12). mlc (R): -4 (12-16). BuBu (r): 13 (26-13). |
| 23:40:03 | sussudio | oh yeah i'm on a winning streak |
| 23:40:46 | sussudio | streak as in shooting without pants |
| 23:43:12 | patlabor221 | cap: you got any screen shots of that thing? |
| 23:53:36 | patlabor221 | so frank how is P2501 goin? |
| 23:54:46 | jzaun | sussudio: How you on a winning streak if you in here? |
| 23:56:37 | patlabor221 | hmm it didn't look like a winning streak |
| 23:59:56 | patlabor221 | awww they are all leaving |
| 23:59:57 | BZFrank | back |
