| 00:00:01 | doughecka | oh? |
| 00:00:06 | patlabor221 | no my bad |
| 00:00:07 | patlabor221 | he does |
| 00:00:13 | doughecka | whew |
| 00:00:23 | patlabor221 | he has 3 days to respond |
| 00:00:30 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:00:33 | doughecka | and then what? |
| 00:01:00 | patlabor221 | well then if he can't file a non pyaing bidder against you |
| 00:01:07 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:01:15 | patlabor221 | it's is responsibilty to send you info first |
| 00:01:25 | patlabor221 | they may just be backed up |
| 00:01:45 | doughecka | but what if my email blocks him or something? I have had that happen before... |
| 00:01:54 | patlabor221 | well |
| 00:02:01 | patlabor221 | why would you block email |
| 00:02:06 | doughecka | not me |
| 00:02:11 | doughecka | the ISP |
| 00:02:21 | patlabor221 | why does your ISP block mail? |
| 00:02:26 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:02:31 | doughecka | open relay I think |
| 00:02:36 | doughecka | or something |
| 00:02:41 | patlabor221 | that is for spammers |
| 00:02:50 | patlabor221 | if it's going to you then they should not block it |
| 00:03:29 | patlabor221 | if you don't see antying by tomorow send him another message and include a difrent address he can use in case yours does not work. |
| 00:03:31 | doughecka | well, I did once, sent an email from heckamangroup.com to heckaman.com (2 isps) and it bounced back |
| 00:03:45 | doughecka | patlabor221: hmm, k |
| 00:03:47 | patlabor221 | what was the reason for the bounce? |
| 00:03:58 | doughecka | let me try sending one |
| 00:06:04 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:06:30 | doughecka | wierd |
| 00:06:47 | doughecka | it got through this time |
| 00:07:04 | patlabor221 | perhaps it was having issues at one point |
| 00:07:08 | doughecka | but the mail program said something like I am blocked or something, and then it let me through |
| 00:07:13 | patlabor221 | do you remember the bounce reason? |
| 00:07:23 | doughecka | no |
| 00:07:25 | patlabor221 | that makes no sense |
| 00:07:30 | doughecka | it was a while ago |
| 00:07:40 | doughecka | but I remember it would bounce back |
| 00:07:45 | patlabor221 | if it was bounced then you would get a reply mail from the mail server |
| 00:07:55 | doughecka | ahh |
| 00:08:03 | doughecka | yes, I never got a email saying that |
| 00:08:05 | patlabor221 | if the app gave you an error then it was something wrong with your SMTP server |
| 00:08:19 | patlabor221 | you were proalby trying to use the other mailserver to send |
| 00:08:23 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:08:31 | doughecka | fudge: yum |
| 00:08:35 | patlabor221 | usualy you can only send fomr the server that you are directly connected to you |
| 00:09:11 | doughecka | I just sent an email now |
| 00:09:24 | doughecka | from heckamangroup.com pop3 server |
| 00:09:40 | patlabor221 | you don't send through pop servers |
| 00:09:46 | patlabor221 | you send throuh SMTP servers |
| 00:09:46 | doughecka | er |
| 00:09:50 | doughecka | yea |
| 00:09:51 | patlabor221 | pop is for receving |
| 00:10:02 | patlabor221 | perhaps they changed there policy |
| 00:10:08 | doughecka | hrm |
| 00:10:10 | doughecka | maybe |
| 00:11:19 | doughecka | ah well |
| 00:11:30 | doughecka | I am off to solder my laser together |
| 00:11:45 | fudge | is there a match going on now? |
| 00:11:56 | doughecka | fudge: nope |
| 00:11:57 | patlabor221 | god I love derived classes |
| 00:12:08 | doughecka | patlabor221: hmm |
| 00:13:00 | patlabor221 | hmmm? |
| 00:13:03 | patlabor221 | why hmmmm? |
| 00:13:11 | doughecka | I said hmm |
| 00:13:19 | patlabor221 | and I asked why? |
| 00:13:23 | doughecka | not Hmmmm, thats what bees do |
| 00:13:44 | doughecka | ;) |
| 00:13:45 | patlabor221 | still, you skirt the question... why? |
| 00:13:53 | doughecka | patlabor221: becuase |
| 00:14:17 | patlabor221 | that is not an valid answer |
| 00:14:19 | m0nkey_b0y | wow i left irc on |
| 00:14:31 | m0nkey_b0y | howdy folks ;) |
| 00:14:41 | doughecka | patlabor221: because I did |
| 00:14:55 | doughecka | patlabor221: hmm |
| 00:14:56 | | bryjen: wish i knew |
| 00:14:56 | bryjen | ibot: doughecka ? |
| 00:15:02 | | ACTION grins and yells the date Tue Aug 6 01:15:02 2002 |
| 00:15:02 | doughecka | ibot bzdoug? |
| 00:15:18 | bzdoug | cool |
| 00:15:22 | patlabor221 | but is he truly "BZ"? |
| 00:15:27 | | ACTION laughs at bzdoug |
| 00:15:27 | bzdoug | ibot bzdoug? |
| 00:15:32 | | ibot slashdot |
| 00:15:32 | bzdoug | ibot bzdoug? |
| 00:15:47 | | bzdoug: no idea |
| 00:15:47 | bzdoug | ibot bzdoug? |
| 00:15:51 | bzdoug | wierd |
| 00:15:53 | | bzdoug: bugger all, i dunno |
| 00:15:53 | bzdoug | ibot bzdoug? |
| 00:15:58 | bzdoug | hey!!! |
| 00:16:01 | | bzdoug: I forgot all |
| 00:16:01 | bzdoug | ibot forget all |
| 00:16:05 | bzdoug | there |
| 00:16:17 | patlabor221 | did you just wipe Ibot clean? |
| 00:16:40 | | bobots is Bobots are everywhere! Game over man! |
| 00:16:40 | patlabor221 | ibot: bobots |
| 00:16:43 | bzdoug | ha |
| 00:16:45 | patlabor221 | pheeeew |
| 00:16:51 | bzdoug | I love logs |
| 00:16:53 | bzdoug | bzdoug is <action> laughs at $who|<action> grins and yells the date $date|<reply> ibot slashdot |
| 00:16:53 | | jacques, I didn't have anything matching 'everything' |
| 00:16:53 | jacques | ibot: forget everything |
| 00:16:59 | patlabor221 | I think I ibot likes you |
| 00:17:01 | | OK, bzdoug. |
| 00:17:01 | bzdoug | ibot bzdoug is <action> laughs at $who|<action> grins and yells the date $date|<reply> ibot slashdot |
| 00:17:06 | | ibot slashdot |
| 00:17:06 | bzdoug | ibot bzdoug? |
| 00:17:10 | | ACTION laughs at bzdoug |
| 00:17:10 | bzdoug | ibot bzdoug? |
| 00:17:13 | | ACTION grins and yells the date Tue Aug 6 01:17:13 2002 |
| 00:17:13 | bzdoug | ibot bzdoug? |
| 00:17:13 | | Since Fri Aug 2 20:21:57 2002, there have been 56 modifications and 273 questions. I have been awake for 3 days, 4 hours, 55 minutes, 16 seconds this session, and currently reference 83943 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 00:17:13 | jacques | ibot: status |
| 00:17:25 | bzdoug | wow |
| 00:17:31 | | it has been said that bzbot is better than you |
| 00:17:31 | bzdoug | ibot bzbot? |
| 00:17:35 | bzdoug | har har |
| 00:17:36 | patlabor221 | ok enough with the ibot |
| 00:17:41 | | Sorry, bzdoug, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 00:17:41 | bzdoug | ibot shutup |
| 00:17:42 | patlabor221 | do it in a msg to him |
| 00:17:44 | bzdoug | k |
| 00:18:40 | | i don't know, bzdoug |
| 00:18:40 | bzdoug | ibot bzbot? |
| 00:18:49 | bzdoug | blah |
| 00:19:06 | m0nkey_b0y | monkey_b0y has cable :)))) |
| 00:19:12 | bzdoug | m0nkey_b0y: woohoo |
| 00:19:16 | m0nkey_b0y | ;) |
| 00:19:24 | bzdoug | welcome to the world of broadband |
| 00:19:28 | m0nkey_b0y | now i need my puter...laptop is a no go |
| 00:19:34 | bzdoug | haha |
| 00:19:48 | m0nkey_b0y | this is as fast as my machine at work |
| 00:19:53 | m0nkey_b0y | line speed |
| 00:19:58 | bzdoug | wow |
| 00:20:00 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 00:20:06 | bzdoug | do you work at home? |
| 00:20:11 | bzdoug | heh |
| 00:20:13 | m0nkey_b0y | no more 19.9 modem |
| 00:20:33 | bzdoug | ugh, ick, yuk, phoowy |
| 00:20:46 | m0nkey_b0y | i saw a modem for 5$ |
| 00:20:51 | m0nkey_b0y | almost bought it :) |
| 00:20:52 | bzdoug | is SP3 for windows 2000 good? |
| 00:20:58 | bzdoug | m0nkey_b0y: modem? |
| 00:21:02 | patlabor221 | haven't tried it yet |
| 00:21:02 | m0nkey_b0y | hehe |
| 00:21:05 | bzdoug | what is a modem? |
| 00:21:10 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 00:21:22 | captain_proton | sp3 gives MS rights to administrative access to your computer |
| 00:21:49 | patlabor221 | WTF? |
| 00:22:00 | patlabor221 | where did you hear this? |
| 00:22:01 | captain_proton | all in the EULA |
| 00:22:32 | captain_proton | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/04/132221&mode=thread&tid=109 |
| 00:22:35 | m0nkey_b0y | i will kick some gates ass if he comes to work on my puter |
| 00:24:36 | captain_proton | patlabor221: iconies? |
| 00:24:40 | bryjen | they won't come there. they reserve the right to embed things in service packs/updates including utils to automatically download more service packs/updates |
| 00:24:42 | patlabor221 | no |
| 00:24:48 | patlabor221 | been teaching class all day |
| 00:24:57 | m0nkey_b0y | i go to them |
| 00:24:59 | patlabor221 | I'm still at work |
| 00:25:02 | bzdoug | captain_proton: ye ayea |
| 00:25:06 | m0nkey_b0y | uoloading monkey info |
| 00:25:24 | bryjen | ewwww, m0nkey bits |
| 00:25:27 | bzdoug | captain_proton: I dont really care |
| 00:25:32 | patlabor221 | I'll work more oh them when I get home |
| 00:25:41 | captain_proton | bzdoug: your choice, i suppose |
| 00:25:54 | bzdoug | captain_proton: hee |
| 00:26:10 | patlabor221 | that part of the ula has been in there before with other updates |
| 00:26:50 | patlabor221 | it's allpart of the thing you have to agree to to get auto updates. |
| 00:26:52 | captain_proton | patlabor221: the WMP security update had it, but thats the only one before this |
| 00:27:22 | patlabor221 | the ula in the ms update site is argualbly similar |
| 00:27:39 | captain_proton | patlabor221: except -you- are initiating the update |
| 00:27:48 | captain_proton | i will never allow auto-updates to my computer |
| 00:27:48 | patlabor221 | no not allways |
| 00:28:01 | patlabor221 | I don't think linux would ever do it |
| 00:28:29 | patlabor221 | it's a difrent world. |
| 00:28:37 | patlabor221 | most windows users don't give a rats ass |
| 00:28:45 | patlabor221 | they just want tehre shit to work |
| 00:28:48 | captain_proton | there are some things -like- windows update in the linux world |
| 00:28:55 | bzdoug | patlabor221: exacly |
| 00:28:57 | captain_proton | such as up2date, apt-get or red-carpet |
| 00:29:03 | patlabor221 | I know, but I don't think they would go auto |
| 00:29:15 | captain_proton | but updating things automatically has the huge capacity to break things beyond belief |
| 00:29:34 | patlabor221 | linux users are a difrent user then the average windows user |
| 00:29:44 | captain_proton | true |
| 00:29:54 | bryjen | and what happens if someone manages to insert a trojan update ? |
| 00:29:56 | captain_proton | but MS is forcing auto-updates down everybodies throats |
| 00:30:08 | bzdoug | bryjen: yah yah |
| 00:30:11 | captain_proton | its not an opt-out thing |
| 00:30:20 | patlabor221 | then shit will break |
| 00:30:23 | paul | captain_proton: i run apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade -y on a bunch of servers every night. |
| 00:30:29 | paul | captain_proton: no probs to date. |
| 00:30:31 | patlabor221 | just like it does not for those vb viruses |
| 00:30:32 | captain_proton | paul: but you choose to |
| 00:30:37 | paul | captain_proton: apart from one bind breakage once. |
| 00:30:43 | captain_proton | paul: and debian handles their packages fairly well |
| 00:30:45 | paul | captain_proton: due to a bad conf file. |
| 00:30:49 | bryjen | captain_proton: i believe you can turn off auto updates in XP , and not install that piece onto 2k |
| 00:30:52 | paul | captain_proton: this is on redhat :) |
| 00:31:01 | captain_proton | paul: weirdo |
| 00:31:30 | patlabor221 | I'd like to see somone get a bogus update in there |
| 00:31:32 | paul | captain_proton: i like RH, i think apt is the best package maint. tool. so i run RH and apt (ported to rpm) |
| 00:31:32 | paul | :) |
| 00:31:33 | patlabor221 | that would be neat |
| 00:31:40 | m0nkey_b0y | who is pvt. first class monkey?? |
| 00:31:48 | captain_proton | my philosophy is that if it ain't broke... |
| 00:31:50 | paul | patlabor221: that's the danger indeed. |
| 00:32:02 | patlabor221 | but I wonder if anyone can pull it off |
| 00:32:14 | paul | captain_proton: that philosophy will get you rooted pretty quickly. |
| 00:32:17 | patlabor221 | sure people say they can, but has it been atempted |
| 00:32:30 | paul | util-linux was trojaned. |
| 00:32:41 | captain_proton | paul: i consider security holes to be 'broke' |
| 00:32:42 | paul | openbsd's ssh was trojaned just last week. |
| 00:32:42 | patlabor221 | I mean on a MS update site |
| 00:32:59 | paul | captain_proton: haha :) |
| 00:33:04 | captain_proton | i subscribe to bugtraq, keep track of what i need to update |
| 00:33:05 | patlabor221 | seems it easy for that to happen in linux then |
| 00:33:10 | paul | captain_proton: but how do you stay ahead of security updates? |
| 00:33:35 | paul | captain_proton: and if you go on holiday? |
| 00:33:42 | bryjen | the ssh programs themselves weren't. the build scripts. only affected people when compiling their own binaries |
| 00:33:52 | paul | captain_proton: if you run debian stable, apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade -y nightly should do no harm. |
| 00:34:02 | paul | bryjen: yep. |
| 00:34:14 | captain_proton | paul: i restrict remote access to my computer from a single other (trusted) computer, and if i go away my computer usually isn't on |
| 00:35:24 | paul | captain_proton: but i have about 7ish servers out on the net, all of which require bind, sendmail and squid to be accessible. |
| 00:35:46 | captain_proton | paul: and in that case, it can be a good idea to upgrade |
| 00:35:51 | paul | captain_proton: plus our internal machines require security updates too. |
| 00:35:57 | paul | captain_proton: we consider our internal network hostile. |
| 00:36:04 | m0nkey_b0y | rackshack |
| 00:36:09 | bryjen | i saw an article a while back, about a guy running really ancient versions of stuff, as long as its bugs are patched or worked around, the script kiddies tools won't work on his stuff 'cause their exploits are for new stuff |
| 00:36:14 | captain_proton | i'm saying i will never auto-upgrade my own machines |
| 00:36:45 | paul | bryjen: yeah - saw that too. :) |
| 00:36:56 | bzdoug | oh great, I started a flame war |
| 00:37:15 | patlabor221 | where? |
| 00:37:21 | paul | captain_proton: no disrespect, but i think you dont admin a significant number of machines. :) |
| 00:37:23 | bzdoug | in ehre |
| 00:37:33 | patlabor221 | that's not a flame war |
| 00:37:43 | patlabor221 | noone is cussing |
| 00:37:46 | patlabor221 | it's just a discusion |
| 00:37:47 | bzdoug | they are bickering about whether or not to autoupdate |
| 00:37:49 | paul | captain_proton: on the other hand, we have a bunch of machines which we /never/ update. |
| 00:38:00 | bzdoug | paul: like the 3 year computer? |
| 00:38:06 | bryjen | paul: 8086 ? |
| 00:38:10 | patlabor221 | if you think that's "bickering" then you ain't seen nothing |
| 00:38:16 | paul | captain_proton: cause they sit behind 2 firewalls. |
| 00:38:18 | patlabor221 | I have not seen the word "biach" |
| 00:38:21 | paul | patlabor221: :) |
| 00:38:25 | bzdoug | patlabor221: haha |
| 00:38:46 | patlabor221 | this is just people goin off |
| 00:38:49 | paul | bzdoug: yeah, the 3 year machine. RH6.1 - never been touched. |
| 00:38:50 | patlabor221 | on tangetnts |
| 00:38:59 | patlabor221 | I've done it plenty of times :) |
| 00:38:59 | bzdoug | haha |
| 00:39:03 | paul | (2.5year actually) :) |
| 00:39:14 | bzdoug | ah |
| 00:39:18 | bzdoug | amazing |
| 00:39:26 | bzdoug | windows NT HAS to reboot every 40 days |
| 00:39:32 | captain_proton | paul: experienced the 485-day uptime bug on it? |
| 00:39:32 | patlabor221 | beeeatch! |
| 00:39:43 | bryjen | bzdoug: no it doesn't |
| 00:39:44 | captain_proton | or was that only 2.4? |
| 00:39:49 | bzdoug | *gasp* |
| 00:40:01 | paul | captain_proton: anyway, i see your point, but it's all relative. there's a certain point where risk of breakage is worth the lower overhead on manual maintenance of security updates. |
| 00:40:03 | patlabor221 | we had NT servers runnig for hears |
| 00:40:07 | patlabor221 | years |
| 00:40:07 | paul | captain_proton: nope - didnt notice at all. |
| 00:40:14 | bzdoug | patlabor221: oh? |
| 00:40:14 | paul | captain_proton: and it's 497 iirc. :) |
| 00:40:17 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:40:19 | bzdoug | patlabor221: no reboot? |
| 00:40:23 | patlabor221 | no |
| 00:40:34 | patlabor221 | NT 4.0 just worked |
| 00:40:45 | paul | captain_proton: the machine is going to jiffie wrap for the /second/ time in about 50ish days iirc. |
| 00:40:45 | patlabor221 | where did you get 40 days? |
| 00:40:53 | bzdoug | patlabor221: hmm |
| 00:41:16 | bzdoug | anyway |
| 00:41:26 | bzdoug | I gonna to ripa ll my cds to ogg |
| 00:41:42 | patlabor221 | I'm guessing you got it somwhere around ohhh say "your ass". |
| 00:41:55 | patlabor221 | see now that would be more like flame war stuff |
| 00:42:07 | captain_proton | patlabor221: haha you biatch |
| 00:42:14 | patlabor221 | punk |
| 00:42:31 | bzdoug | ouch |
| 00:42:44 | captain_proton | crack kills. or in this case, just injures enough to make patlabor221 talk on IRC |
| 00:42:44 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 00:42:58 | patlabor221 | damn right assclown |
| 00:43:13 | captain_proton | haha are we even flaming about anything? |
| 00:43:26 | bryjen | captain_proton: does it matter? |
| 00:43:32 | captain_proton | bryjen: not really |
| 00:43:38 | patlabor221 | yep, freak |
| 00:43:57 | paul | chocolate jockey |
| 00:44:04 | patlabor221 | fudge packer |
| 00:44:13 | paul | jabber jockey |
| 00:44:24 | patlabor221 | jiz mopper |
| 00:44:26 | captain_proton | ooh, jabber sucks |
| 00:44:36 | patlabor221 | what is jabber? |
| 00:44:39 | paul | patlabor221: jiz mopper? LOL! |
| 00:44:44 | captain_proton | meta-IM protocol/client |
| 00:44:51 | bzdoug | mr hocky puck |
| 00:44:51 | paul | patlabor221: sorry - jobber (jobby -> shit) |
| 00:44:53 | patlabor221 | that's gotta be a cap job |
| 00:45:01 | patlabor221 | ahhhhh |
| 00:45:06 | patlabor221 | soprry crap not cap |
| 00:45:12 | patlabor221 | that would be mean :( |
| 00:45:14 | paul | captain_proton: meta-IM protocol/client? ouch!! |
| 00:45:17 | paul | :) |
| 00:45:27 | captain_proton | paul: yeah - they're trying to wrap everything - its sooooo disgusting |
| 00:45:40 | patlabor221 | mr. hockey puck... that's the best you can do? |
| 00:45:55 | bzdoug | patlabor221: mr donkey poop gatherer |
| 00:46:14 | patlabor221 | wow |
| 00:46:21 | captain_proton | haha |
| 00:46:22 | bzdoug | ok ok |
| 00:46:29 | | bzdoug is nothing but a vapid mound of fly-bitten Stimpy-drool. |
| 00:46:29 | bryjen | ibot: insult bzdoug |
| 00:46:42 | bryjen | cause he's not worth my cycles |
| 00:46:49 | patlabor221 | LOL |
| 00:46:55 | patlabor221 | delegation is a good thing |
| 00:47:03 | bzdoug | patlabor221: dancing donkey with a goat chasing it around and around |
| 00:47:30 | patlabor221 | WTF is that? |
| 00:47:47 | patlabor221 | you cna't have an insult that long |
| 00:47:50 | patlabor221 | that's just silly |
| 00:47:59 | captain_proton | only ibot can pull it off |
| 00:48:03 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:48:09 | paul | captain_proton: i dont want to know. :) |
| 00:48:14 | patlabor221 | it's gotta be short and to the point |
| 00:48:15 | | everybody in the world is nothing but a loggerheaded assload of porous poopy. |
| 00:48:15 | bzdoug | ibot insult everybody in the world |
| 00:48:20 | bryjen | who writes those things anyway ? |
| 00:48:28 | bryjen | .... including bzdoug |
| 00:48:32 | patlabor221 | random for a list I think |
| 00:48:35 | paul | captain_proton: you'd reckon they'd ferkin' agree on 1 true IM protocol and bloody well submit an RFC.. but no. |
| 00:48:43 | | this channel. is nothing but an hacked-up accumulation of reeky Sun IPC manuals. |
| 00:48:43 | KublaiKhan | ibot insult this channel. |
| 00:48:44 | bzdoug | infinit monkeys out side |
| 00:48:50 | KublaiKhan | Ooh...... |
| 00:48:59 | captain_proton | paul: well...in the ietf there's one group thats working on a real IM protocol, then there's the jabber group |
| 00:49:45 | paul | captain_proton: dont keep abreast of IM news, but from what i gather the whole thing is borked. |
| 00:50:11 | paul | captain_proton: at this stage even if they do come up with an IETF sanctioned protocol - it's too late. AIM, ICQ have the market share. |
| 00:50:22 | bryjen | Without being an AOL, Yahoo, or ICQ, does anyone have the pull to introduce a new protocol with connecting to the others ? |
| 00:50:36 | bzdoug | bryjen: apple |
| 00:51:02 | captain_proton | paul: well - there might be an effort for convergence :P |
| 00:51:10 | bryjen | No, really, someone with an existing user base ? (oops forgot M$) |
| 00:51:20 | paul | captain_proton: he.. how though? :) |
| 00:51:47 | bzdoug | bryjen: dunno |
| 00:51:56 | | I'm into SOFTWARE! |
| 00:51:56 | bzdoug | ibot yow |
| 00:52:01 | captain_proton | paul: well, the people who are working on the protocols are those who have a vested interest - people who work for mirabilis, or AOL, etc |
| 00:52:12 | captain_proton | paul: and hey, it worked for IP |
| 00:52:24 | paul | captain_proton: ah then perhaps there is a chance. |
| 00:53:35 | bzdoug | ibot message for ibot: dork |
| 00:53:43 | bzdoug | hi dang |
| 00:53:51 | bzdoug | I bet your patlabor221 |
| 00:53:57 | paul | arg.. some bastard didnt type the cd i'm ripping into freecdb. |
| 00:54:04 | dang | hi doug, all. |
| 00:54:07 | bzdoug | paul: me too |
| 00:54:10 | paul | now /i/ have to type it in. ungrateful swine. |
| 00:54:18 | paul | bzdoug: yeah, horrible isnt it? |
| 00:54:19 | bzdoug | paul: and I dont have the case |
| 00:54:24 | bzdoug | :) |
| 00:54:30 | bzdoug | yea |
| 00:54:41 | patlabor221 | what doug? |
| 00:54:44 | paul | bzdoug: i mean what's the point of using freecdb if my cd isnt in there? |
| 00:54:51 | bzdoug | haha |
| 00:54:52 | paul | bzdoug: sucks doesnt it? |
| 00:54:53 | paul | :) |
| 00:54:59 | bzdoug | yup |
| 00:55:07 | paul | stops trying to get bzdoug to incriminate himself. |
| 00:56:24 | bzdoug | Mmmm |
| 00:56:45 | bryjen | bzfquery 63.147.94.149 |
| 00:56:48 | bryjen | ack |
| 00:56:58 | bryjen | bzfquery 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 00:56:59 | bzbot | Rogue: 2 players, score: 0 | Red: 1 players, score: 16 | Green: 1 players, score: 7 | Blue: 2 players, score: -9 | Purple: 1 players, score: -2 | |
| 00:57:15 | bzdoug | ooh |
| 00:57:24 | captain_proton | dang,dangit,darn - kill the clones please |
| 00:57:31 | KublaiKhan | Red's cleaning it up....... |
| 00:57:40 | bzdoug | captain_proton: stop cussin |
| 00:57:51 | captain_proton | bzdoug: shut the hell up |
| 00:57:52 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 00:58:09 | dang | i'm no clone, i'm the real dang! |
| 00:58:10 | KublaiKhan | Bloody hell, then language in this channel is foul.......*winks* |
| 00:58:42 | bryjen | bzfquerylong 63.147.94.149 5155 |
| 00:58:43 | bzbot | yada (r): -1 (16-17). Jack (G): 7 (20-13). barney (P): -1 (7-8). WPNG (B): -4 (0-4). BZFrag Bait (R): 15 (23-8). |
| 00:58:56 | captain_proton | awww |
| 00:59:01 | captain_proton | i didn't get to see the response |
| 00:59:09 | KublaiKhan | <bzbot> yada (r): -1 (16-17). Jack (G): 7 (20-13). barney (P): -1 (7-8). WPNG (B): -4 (0-4). BZFrag Bait (R): 15 (23-8). |
| 00:59:15 | captain_proton | KublaiKhan: i mean doug's response |
| 00:59:24 | dang | dang.i.missed that is |
| 00:59:25 | bzdoug | I did not respond |
| 00:59:33 | dum | dang: dork |
| 00:59:34 | captain_proton | bzdoug: ok |
| 00:59:37 | darn | dang: dork |
| 00:59:41 | dangit | dang: dork |
| 00:59:49 | KublaiKhan | Dork? |
| 01:00:12 | bzdoug | it IS foul |
| 01:00:30 | KublaiKhan | gives bzdoug a yellow card for use of the word foul. |
| 01:00:40 | dang | why dork, noone here knows me |
| 01:00:46 | bzdoug | I meant chickens |
| 01:00:57 | KublaiKhan | tars and feathers bzdoug |
| 01:00:57 | patlabor221 | ahhh I can just see the maturity level in here |
| 01:00:59 | bzdoug | dang: right... |
| 01:01:02 | KublaiKhan | smirks. |
| 01:01:40 | bzdoug | grins like a monkey |
| 01:01:53 | bryjen | patlabor221: its that layer of haze right above the floor |
| 01:02:02 | bzdoug | bryjen: fog? |
| 01:02:09 | patlabor221 | somone open the door |
| 01:02:17 | patlabor221 | and air the room out |
| 01:02:23 | bzdoug | patlabor221: the fog is from outside |
| 01:02:36 | patlabor221 | man does he have no clue |
| 01:02:38 | captain_proton | patlabor221: kinda oozing down the walls, no? |
| 01:02:49 | bzdoug | yah yah |
| 01:03:07 | patlabor221 | that would mean the fog is colder and more dense |
| 01:03:20 | patlabor221 | well at least more dense |
| 01:03:32 | bryjen | heh. dense. sounds right. |
| 01:03:51 | dang | so is this where the ctf league matches are coordinated ? |
| 01:03:59 | captain_proton | dang: sorta kinda |
| 01:04:05 | bzdoug | dang: darn |
| 01:04:06 | captain_proton | dang: better to coordinate through the challenges forum |
| 01:04:11 | bryjen | and on the web pages / forums |
| 01:04:37 | dang | ok, this is the social club i suppose |
| 01:04:37 | bryjen | irc is used as a meeting place/waiting room |
| 01:04:50 | bzdoug | dang: and mad house |
| 01:05:05 | patlabor221 | only when you ar here doug |
| 01:05:05 | dang | a little bit, but it seems well padded |
| 01:05:13 | captain_proton | dang: technically this is a place for development discussion |
| 01:05:21 | bzdoug | patlabor221: cuz of you |
| 01:05:24 | captain_proton | which actually occurs once in a while |
| 01:05:33 | bzdoug | like a bluemoon |
| 01:05:33 | patlabor221 | meeeeeeeeeee? |
| 01:05:36 | bryjen | captain_proton: really ? ;) |
| 01:05:46 | bzdoug | patlabor221: you even sound guilty |
| 01:05:48 | dang | a fog seems to be developing... |
| 01:05:58 | patlabor221 | hey I did some like ...ummmm...... like.... yesterday or something |
| 01:06:19 | bryjen | manana |
| 01:06:31 | dang | fog would be cool in bz, is it possible in openGL ? |
| 01:06:32 | bzdoug | I eat yesterday |
| 01:06:34 | bryjen | with a ~ in there somewhere |
| 01:06:41 | patlabor221 | yes it is |
| 01:06:45 | bzdoug | ski!!! |
| 01:06:49 | ski | hi |
| 01:06:52 | bzdoug | ski: ever ski? |
| 01:06:58 | patlabor221 | at least GL fog is easy |
| 01:07:01 | captain_proton | dang: yeah, would be in 1.8 already if i wasn't quite so lazy as i am |
| 01:07:03 | ski | as much as possible |
| 01:07:06 | ski | :) |
| 01:07:11 | patlabor221 | volumetric is more dificult |
| 01:07:23 | patlabor221 | yeah, cap, do that instead of buging me for icons |
| 01:07:26 | dang | in ironcad fog is only available with software rendering, not openGL |
| 01:07:27 | ski | u? |
| 01:07:41 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm. i added all the calls into gstate, but never exposed the interface ;) |
| 01:07:42 | bzdoug | ski: once |
| 01:08:03 | ski | <-------favorite sport |
| 01:08:04 | patlabor221 | whonders when he became the BZ artist. |
| 01:08:05 | bzdoug | whoooops |
| 01:08:08 | bzdoug | gosh |
| 01:08:12 | bzdoug | I thought ogg was small |
| 01:08:15 | bzdoug | not 25 megs |
| 01:08:20 | bzdoug | each |
| 01:08:21 | patlabor221 | depends on your setings |
| 01:08:23 | dang | * r |
| 01:08:25 | patlabor221 | just like MP3 |
| 01:08:28 | bzdoug | yea |
| 01:08:32 | bzdoug | I set mine at MAX |
| 01:08:36 | patlabor221 | wellllllll |
| 01:08:41 | patlabor221 | dumbass |
| 01:08:45 | bzdoug | FLAME!!!! |
| 01:08:50 | | bzdoug: what? |
| 01:08:50 | bzdoug | ibot flame |
| 01:08:51 | patlabor221 | seee |
| 01:09:06 | | bryjen was last seen on #bzflag 2 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: with a ~ in there somewhere [Tue Aug 6 02:06:34 2002] |
| 01:09:06 | ski | ibot seen bryjen ? |
| 01:09:14 | patlabor221 | realy tho, you don't need to have it set at the max |
| 01:09:20 | bryjen | ski: Yes? |
| 01:09:26 | patlabor221 | 25 is still a lot smaler then the raw would be |
| 01:09:34 | bzdoug | patlabor221: what would be good? |
| 01:09:39 | bzdoug | 7.5? |
| 01:09:42 | ski | nothin, just surprised to see yua still here:) |
| 01:09:52 | patlabor221 | how long is the song? |
| 01:10:01 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, we really ought to find a real artist |
| 01:10:06 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:10:07 | patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 01:10:12 | bzdoug | danube |
| 01:10:14 | patlabor221 | but I'll do what I can |
| 01:10:17 | bzdoug | 10 min |
| 01:10:18 | patlabor221 | it's no problem |
| 01:10:22 | ski | im on and off |
| 01:10:27 | patlabor221 | that would be like 9.5 megs MP3 |
| 01:10:32 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:10:38 | captain_proton | haha @ the indie game jam games |
| 01:10:42 | captain_proton | i like "angry god bowling" |
| 01:11:05 | patlabor221 | indie game jam? |
| 01:11:10 | patlabor221 | the GDC thing? |
| 01:11:19 | captain_proton | i think its GDC |
| 01:11:25 | captain_proton | but yeah |
| 01:11:29 | captain_proton | they're all based around 100,000 sprites at once |
| 01:11:39 | bzdoug | wow |
| 01:11:39 | captain_proton | in the bowling game, you roll rocks at crowds |
| 01:11:48 | captain_proton | and they start following 'prophets' when they get scared |
| 01:12:01 | patlabor221 | I can't beilve how many card games go to the finals every year |
| 01:12:28 | patlabor221 | that does sound funny |
| 01:12:40 | patlabor221 | last time I went there, there wasn't much good for the awwards |
| 01:12:47 | patlabor221 | but there was free beer |
| 01:13:33 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:13:48 | captain_proton | another where you have to protect the jesus' from the mobs who want to crucify them |
| 01:13:53 | captain_proton | #define MAX_CHRISTS 5 |
| 01:14:01 | patlabor221 | ha |
| 01:14:27 | captain_proton | i wanna participate in this next year ;) |
| 01:14:38 | patlabor221 | and I thoought it was funy when I had to make a vector of e bay bidders |
| 01:14:42 | patlabor221 | the bidderitter |
| 01:14:47 | bzdoug | ? |
| 01:14:49 | bzdoug | how? |
| 01:15:02 | patlabor221 | you just send in a submison in may or something |
| 01:15:04 | captain_proton | hmm, i like 'dueling machine' too |
| 01:15:15 | captain_proton | "Based on a book by Ben Bova. The game looks like a first-person shooter, but with a twist. You are in a city full of thousands of pedestrians, you have exactly one bullet, and you have to find and kill a single unique fugitive." |
| 01:15:25 | patlabor221 | then if you make simi finals you go to san jose |
| 01:15:27 | bzdoug | captain_proton: cool |
| 01:15:31 | patlabor221 | and get free beer |
| 01:15:58 | patlabor221 | and try to win the awward that is named after my old emplyers son. |
| 01:16:21 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 01:16:25 | captain_proton | dueling machine is 2-player network |
| 01:16:26 | captain_proton | =) |
| 01:16:27 | patlabor221 | and then they give you a computer |
| 01:16:36 | patlabor221 | and you meet john carmac |
| 01:17:17 | captain_proton | patlabor221: what did you make the bidderitter for? |
| 01:17:28 | patlabor221 | to iterate bidders |
| 01:17:38 | captain_proton | iterate bidders -in what- ? |
| 01:17:46 | patlabor221 | I am making e-bay auction managermnt software for a friend of mine |
| 01:17:52 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 01:17:56 | patlabor221 | horibly booring |
| 01:18:00 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:18:08 | captain_proton | we should think up something for the GDC contest |
| 01:18:18 | patlabor221 | BZA :) |
| 01:18:18 | captain_proton | perhaps develop ultimate pong into a monster |
| 01:18:21 | bzdoug | patlabor221: you gonna sell it? |
| 01:18:32 | patlabor221 | my friend is |
| 01:18:42 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:18:58 | captain_proton | hmm, they open-sourced the cg compiler yet> |
| 01:18:59 | captain_proton | ? |
| 01:19:11 | patlabor221 | yeah they did |
| 01:19:14 | captain_proton | envisions a furry ping pong ball |
| 01:19:31 | patlabor221 | cap: why you want to go to San Jose and meet John Carmac? |
| 01:19:50 | captain_proton | patlabor221: naw, just wanna enter into the contest ;) |
| 01:20:09 | patlabor221 | it is cool they set you up wiht a little booth in the entry hall :) |
| 01:20:20 | captain_proton | going to the finals would be a good resume bullet |
| 01:20:26 | patlabor221 | that it would |
| 01:20:31 | patlabor221 | and you get like 100k |
| 01:20:34 | patlabor221 | if you win |
| 01:20:54 | bzdoug | hurry! fix up bzflag!! |
| 01:21:08 | patlabor221 | don't know if it would fly |
| 01:21:09 | bzdoug | we shall split the money!! |
| 01:21:12 | patlabor221 | treadmarks did win |
| 01:21:15 | bzdoug | oh |
| 01:21:20 | patlabor221 | it may |
| 01:21:27 | patlabor221 | but it had deformable terain |
| 01:21:41 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:21:46 | captain_proton | chants pong pong pong! |
| 01:21:47 | patlabor221 | the ones that win are the ones that are most polished it seems |
| 01:21:54 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 01:22:05 | bzdoug | could anyone try my streaming serveR? |
| 01:22:20 | patlabor221 | well time to go home |
| 01:22:24 | bzdoug | cya |
| 01:22:36 | bzdoug | heck.no-ip.com:8000 |
| 01:22:36 | patlabor221 | ohh it's not that far |
| 01:22:39 | patlabor221 | I can see it from here |
| 01:22:49 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:23:14 | patlabor221 | techcialy I never have to leave "the road" ... ever |
| 01:23:20 | bzdoug | heh |
| 01:23:39 | patlabor221 | but sometimes you do have to leave the road |
| 01:23:48 | patlabor221 | just because |
| 01:23:57 | bzdoug | because... |
| 01:24:01 | bzdoug | I see |
| 01:24:03 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:24:07 | patlabor221 | to see something else |
| 01:24:24 | patlabor221 | I live and work on the same road |
| 01:24:31 | patlabor221 | and there are stores on the road too |
| 01:24:33 | bzdoug | well, can anyone see if my server works? |
| 01:24:37 | bzdoug | patlabor221: ah |
| 01:24:41 | patlabor221 | I could live without leaving |
| 01:24:45 | bzdoug | patlabor221: lazy |
| 01:24:47 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 01:24:56 | patlabor221 | no, that's why I leave the road |
| 01:25:00 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:25:00 | patlabor221 | I can try it when I get home |
| 01:25:01 | bzdoug | I see |
| 01:25:05 | bzdoug | heh |
| 01:25:07 | patlabor221 | unless it's got crap music |
| 01:25:15 | patlabor221 | it's not crap is it? |
| 01:25:21 | bzdoug | nooo |
| 01:25:25 | patlabor221 | what is it? |
| 01:25:26 | bzdoug | classical |
| 01:25:37 | patlabor221 | no tthe blue danube |
| 01:25:40 | bzdoug | blue danube... lalalalala |
| 01:25:48 | patlabor221 | crap |
| 01:25:58 | bzdoug | go home allready would you? |
| 01:26:00 | bzdoug | :P |
| 01:26:04 | patlabor221 | anime soundtracks man |
| 01:26:08 | bzdoug | ugh |
| 01:26:09 | bzdoug | ugh |
| 01:26:11 | bzdoug | ick |
| 01:26:12 | bzdoug | ick |
| 01:26:14 | bzdoug | I am |
| 01:26:16 | patlabor221 | it's all about the shouting japaneese chick :) |
| 01:26:19 | bzdoug | tpying this to to music!! |
| 01:26:20 | patlabor221 | see ya |
| 01:26:25 | bzdoug | lla |
| 01:26:26 | bzdoug | laaa |
| 01:26:28 | bzdoug | lla |
| 01:26:29 | bzdoug | la |
| 01:26:30 | bzdoug | laa |
| 01:26:33 | bzdoug | cya |
| 01:26:41 | bzdoug | lalaala |
| 01:26:41 | bzdoug | alaa |
| 01:26:43 | bzdoug | alaaalaa |
| 01:26:46 | bzdoug | k |
| 01:27:21 | captain_proton | richard strauss owns jonny any day |
| 01:27:28 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 01:28:16 | bzdoug | you gonna try it? |
| 01:28:22 | bzdoug | blah |
| 01:28:24 | captain_proton | nope |
| 01:28:35 | bzdoug | thoight so |
| 01:28:53 | captain_proton | currently listening to something else |
| 01:28:58 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:29:14 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/sacrifice.mp3 |
| 01:29:40 | bzdoug | jmmm |
| 01:29:50 | bzdoug | wow, its big |
| 01:29:57 | bzdoug | what is it? |
| 01:30:12 | captain_proton | this is a song worth having in 256kbps |
| 01:30:18 | captain_proton | song from 'duality' (lisa gerrard) |
| 01:30:19 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 01:30:22 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:30:25 | bzdoug | k |
| 01:31:18 | bzdoug | 13 megs good for a ogg song 10 min ling? |
| 01:31:41 | captain_proton | sounds like pretty high quality |
| 01:31:48 | bzdoug | yup |
| 01:31:58 | captain_proton | 128kbps mp3 is usually 1:1 for min:meg |
| 01:31:59 | captain_proton | so... |
| 01:32:09 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:38:36 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:38:44 | bzdoug | is there anyway to stream ogg? |
| 01:38:50 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:38:51 | captain_proton | bzdoug: sure there is |
| 01:38:57 | captain_proton | icecast can do it i believe |
| 01:38:59 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:39:04 | bzdoug | icecast works on windows? |
| 01:39:11 | bzdoug | winamp? |
| 01:39:12 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 01:39:22 | Patlabor221 | put the file in a playlist |
| 01:39:27 | Patlabor221 | as a relitive path |
| 01:39:35 | bzdoug | yea, but it streamsin in mp3 |
| 01:39:40 | Patlabor221 | then put the file and the playlist on a server |
| 01:39:46 | bzdoug | ooh |
| 01:39:52 | Patlabor221 | then people link to the playlist |
| 01:39:56 | Patlabor221 | then it will play |
| 01:40:07 | Patlabor221 | at least in winamp |
| 01:40:09 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 01:40:21 | captain_proton | bwahaha |
| 01:40:27 | captain_proton | <-- teachin' C++ to a cute lady online |
| 01:40:28 | bzdoug | that ice cast need to be compiled |
| 01:40:36 | bzdoug | captain_proton: hehe |
| 01:40:37 | Patlabor221 | how do you know she is cute? |
| 01:40:49 | jacques | LOL I was just going to ask the same thing |
| 01:40:56 | captain_proton | she's continually putting photos online |
| 01:41:00 | jacques | along with how do you know it's a she |
| 01:41:00 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:41:06 | Patlabor221 | 45 year old single fat male |
| 01:41:12 | bzdoug | (like that would narrow it down) |
| 01:41:22 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: well, some people thought about that so she took a pic holding a sign |
| 01:41:24 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 01:41:31 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 01:41:57 | Patlabor221 | givin up on your other hottie allrady? |
| 01:42:05 | jacques | is this the german jazz chick? |
| 01:42:33 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i can't expect her to maintain a long-distance relationship |
| 01:42:40 | Patlabor221 | wuss |
| 01:43:21 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm |
| 01:43:25 | Patlabor221 | I have 2 choices |
| 01:43:30 | Patlabor221 | 1) make the icons |
| 01:43:34 | captain_proton | she deserves to be taken out, etc |
| 01:43:38 | captain_proton | and i couldn't provide that |
| 01:43:38 | Patlabor221 | or 2) play the Halp |
| 01:43:43 | captain_proton | from where i am |
| 01:43:44 | captain_proton | Halp? |
| 01:43:47 | bzdoug | Halp? |
| 01:43:50 | Patlabor221 | or 2 play the Halo |
| 01:44:03 | bzdoug | jacques: say Halp? |
| 01:44:08 | bzdoug | Halo? |
| 01:44:14 | Patlabor221 | H A L O |
| 01:44:23 | bzdoug | H A L O? |
| 01:44:30 | Patlabor221 | she is calling me |
| 01:44:31 | captain_proton | well, you know my suggestion |
| 01:44:35 | Patlabor221 | it has been soo long |
| 01:44:42 | bzdoug | anyway |
| 01:44:46 | bzdoug | I am off to bed |
| 01:44:53 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 01:44:59 | bzdoug | cya |
| 01:45:28 | jacques | sorry was afk |
| 01:45:44 | captain_proton | swings a pocket watch in front of Patlabor221 - you want to make icons, you want to make icons |
| 01:46:01 | Patlabor221 | the Halo she is strong |
| 01:46:04 | Patlabor221 | I am weak |
| 01:46:16 | Patlabor221 | it has guns |
| 01:46:32 | Patlabor221 | and those little grunt dudes |
| 01:46:51 | Patlabor221 | and those grenades that stick to peoples foreheads |
| 01:46:55 | captain_proton | increases the period of the pocket watch |
| 01:47:02 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmmmm and the jeep |
| 01:47:14 | Patlabor221 | sexy naugy jeep |
| 01:47:21 | Patlabor221 | mmmm inverse kenimatics |
| 01:47:25 | bryjen | .o0O |
| 01:49:16 | Patlabor221 | now cap, if it was like a cookie instead of a stopwatch.... then maybe |
| 01:49:36 | captain_proton | ties a cookie on a string |
| 01:49:46 | Patlabor221 | wouldn't it break? |
| 01:49:54 | captain_proton | depends how i tied it on |
| 01:50:45 | bryjen | or you could try the HALO CDROM |
| 01:50:52 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:50:56 | Patlabor221 | it's a DVD |
| 01:51:10 | bryjen | whatever. shiny disc thingy. |
| 01:51:18 | Patlabor221 | it's not realy that shiny |
| 01:51:22 | paul | night |
| 01:51:24 | bryjen | :P |
| 01:51:26 | Patlabor221 | they have this undercoating thing |
| 01:51:37 | Patlabor221 | and if he had HALO he'd be playing it |
| 01:51:43 | Patlabor221 | and driving the jeep |
| 01:51:48 | captain_proton | yaaay |
| 01:51:50 | bryjen | captain_proton: see he's even fixated on it already |
| 01:51:57 | captain_proton | is planning to go out and buy the new star trek dvd tomorrow |
| 01:52:08 | jacques | kaaaaaahhhn!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:52:19 | captain_proton | jacques: ;) |
| 01:52:21 | Patlabor221 | will do the same when he gets LOTR |
| 01:52:42 | bryjen | oh well, bedtime. |
| 01:57:22 | Patlabor221 | making icons isn't as fun as HALO |
| 01:57:39 | captain_proton | swings the cookie in front of Patlabor221 |
| 01:57:50 | Patlabor221 | MG GM and SW are done |
| 01:58:05 | Patlabor221 | and laser |
| 01:58:15 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: wherefore? |
| 02:00:24 | Patlabor221 | on my local system |
| 02:00:32 | captain_proton | can you put them on the web? |
| 02:00:33 | Patlabor221 | just did rico |
| 02:00:39 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 02:00:41 | captain_proton | i can add them in to bz as you make them |
| 02:00:55 | Patlabor221 | let me add jump real quick |
| 02:05:20 | Patlabor221 | and color then and save them |
| 02:05:37 | captain_proton | :) |
| 02:11:25 | Patlabor221 | what color should Jump be? |
| 02:11:44 | captain_proton | dark teal |
| 02:11:52 | captain_proton | everybody and their mother should make things dark teal |
| 02:12:28 | Patlabor221 | got the RGB for that? |
| 02:13:15 | captain_proton | hang on a sec |
| 02:13:45 | captain_proton | try #28839a |
| 02:14:47 | Patlabor221 | bahhh web colors |
| 02:15:06 | Patlabor221 | hex is for girls |
| 02:15:12 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmmmm |
| 02:15:17 | Patlabor221 | but girls smell nice |
| 02:15:21 | captain_proton | ok |
| 02:15:26 | captain_proton | 40 131 154 |
| 02:15:43 | Patlabor221 | unsigned chars are for girls |
| 02:15:54 | Patlabor221 | I did it |
| 02:15:56 | captain_proton | how can you have negative RGB? |
| 02:15:58 | Patlabor221 | I'm ulping it now |
| 02:16:07 | Patlabor221 | floats man |
| 02:16:11 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 02:16:11 | Patlabor221 | it's all about 0 - 1 |
| 02:16:37 | Patlabor221 | real men have to look at colors and go "WTF is that" |
| 02:16:56 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bzicons.zip |
| 02:17:02 | Patlabor221 | very basic ones |
| 02:17:29 | Patlabor221 | I think they need shading |
| 02:18:00 | Patlabor221 | all TGAs with alpha |
| 02:18:05 | captain_proton | yes, definitely need shading |
| 02:18:31 | Patlabor221 | I'll shade them all after eveyone agrees on the images |
| 02:19:06 | captain_proton | coo |
| 02:20:02 | Patlabor221 | hmmm do I make somehing for dinner |
| 02:20:09 | Patlabor221 | or just eat this cake? |
| 02:20:35 | Patlabor221 | mmmmm cake |
| 02:20:58 | captain_proton | just eat the cake |
| 02:22:36 | Patlabor221 | somehow I'm guessing that this isn't toatly healthy |
| 02:23:27 | captain_proton | heh |
| 02:24:04 | Patlabor221 | checks for the latest StronBadEmail while he eats his cake bases dinner http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html |
| 02:31:18 | Patlabor221 | must go make something meat based, before the sugar rush subsides |
| 02:38:55 | Patlabor221 | is away: Somebody get this freakin duck away from me!! |
| 02:39:35 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:39:43 | captain_proton | tag decided to move to america |
| 02:39:44 | captain_proton | ? |
| 02:41:57 | Patlabor221 | who? |
| 02:42:04 | Patlabor221 | is back (gone 00:03:09) |
| 02:42:35 | captain_proton | chestal's pet duck |
| 02:42:36 | captain_proton | tag |
| 02:42:43 | Patlabor221 | ahhhhhhh |
| 02:42:52 | Patlabor221 | no I don't think it's his |
| 02:45:15 | Patlabor221 | hmmm dinner looks a little scarry |
| 02:45:27 | Patlabor221 | perhaps I should not have used an entire can of peas |
| 02:46:43 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 02:46:53 | captain_proton | whoa strange |
| 02:46:59 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara pong]$ ./pong |
| 02:46:59 | captain_proton | out of memory |
| 02:46:59 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 02:47:10 | Patlabor221 | you need a gig of ram |
| 02:47:13 | captain_proton | pong quits |
| 02:47:27 | captain_proton | and i've got about 600 mb free including swap |
| 02:48:26 | Patlabor221 | time for the debugin |
| 02:51:29 | Patlabor221 | hmm what Icon to do next? |
| 02:52:00 | jpablo | dum de dum, my jukebox is getting pretty, it now supports oggs. |
| 02:53:12 | captain_proton | hmm, strange |
| 02:53:39 | captain_proton | my skybox isn't appearing |
| 02:53:45 | Patlabor221 | backwards? |
| 02:53:55 | captain_proton | not that |
| 02:54:09 | captain_proton | it shows up for an instant but then as soon as new frames start drawing it goes away |
| 02:54:34 | Patlabor221 | oddd |
| 02:54:36 | Patlabor221 | indeed |
| 02:54:57 | captain_proton | sky.draw(0, 0, 0, 600, 600, 600); |
| 02:54:57 | captain_proton | scene.draw(); |
| 02:54:57 | captain_proton | ui.draw(); |
| 02:55:00 | captain_proton | looks right to me |
| 02:55:32 | Patlabor221 | every frame? |
| 02:55:36 | captain_proton | yep |
| 02:55:52 | Patlabor221 | does UI draw put it back into perspective? |
| 02:56:01 | captain_proton | oooh |
| 02:56:06 | captain_proton | scene puts it in perspective |
| 02:56:10 | captain_proton | and ui puts it in ortho |
| 02:56:11 | captain_proton | :P |
| 02:56:14 | Patlabor221 | there ya go |
| 02:56:46 | captain_proton | oooh pretty |
| 02:58:35 | Patlabor221 | so when do we all get to see this wonderfull thing |
| 02:59:57 | captain_proton | as soon as i have it to the same functionality as the messy one |
| 03:05:41 | captain_proton | argg |
| 03:05:44 | captain_proton | the AI aims for powerups |
| 03:05:57 | Patlabor221 | wicked little git |
| 03:08:11 | Patlabor221 | FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!! |
| 03:08:20 | Patlabor221 | how can they do this!!! |
| 03:08:27 | Patlabor221 | http://www.comixtreme.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Marvel%20Universe/Marvel%20Mangaverse&image=Mangaverse%20New%20Dawn%20-%20Cover%20001.jpg&img=&tt=img |
| 03:08:36 | Patlabor221 | you can't make iron man a girl |
| 03:08:40 | Patlabor221 | that's just not right |
| 03:09:27 | Patlabor221 | ok but this one is ok |
| 03:09:27 | Patlabor221 | http://www.comixtreme.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Marvel%20Universe/Marvel%20Mangaverse&image=Mangaverse%20Avengers%20-%20Cover%20001.jpg&img=&tt=img |
| 03:15:07 | Patlabor221 | ok icon block |
| 03:15:10 | Patlabor221 | halo calling |
| 03:15:18 | Patlabor221 | HALLLLOOOOOOOO |
| 03:15:21 | Patlabor221 | is away: Somebody get this freakin duck away from me!! |
| 03:15:49 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:15:55 | captain_proton | icon block...there's a new term for ya |
| 03:41:40 | captain_proton | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 03:42:23 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 03:43:09 | captain_proton | seems there's a bug in flag zones when the list of flags between two zones overlap |
| 03:43:15 | captain_proton | it should choose a zone at random, no? |
| 03:43:55 | MrApathyCream | random, yes, but weighted by the size of the zones |
| 03:44:11 | captain_proton | it seems to choose the first zone always |
| 03:45:07 | captain_proton | zones are same size |
| 03:45:47 | MrApathyCream | hmm, sounds like a bug, yes |
| 03:47:54 | Patlabor221 | is back (gone 00:32:33) |
| 05:00:24 | Patlabor221 | see ya all |
| 06:40:35 | akira_ | moin |
| 07:55:48 | | Test Failed! |
| 07:55:48 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 08:39:20 | Chestal | hmm, that tie did a major score change of +1/-1 :-) |
| 08:46:24 | _paulj | Chestal: the resurrection/avengers tie? |
| 08:47:15 | Chestal | yes |
| 08:48:43 | _paulj | is that +1 resurrection, -1 everyone else? |
| 08:48:45 | _paulj | :) |
| 08:49:01 | _paulj | quietly hands chestal a brown envelope |
| 08:51:04 | captain_proton | looks inquisitively at the envelope |
| 08:52:23 | paulj | captain_proton: brown envelopes are a popular tool of irish politics |
| 08:52:36 | captain_proton | paulj: i see |
| 08:52:59 | paulj | captain_proton: eg, buy some land and it can be magically rezoned for housing |
| 08:53:19 | paulj | captain_proton: bid on irelands 2nd mobile operator licence, and it can be yours |
| 08:53:33 | paulj | just use the brown envelope... |
| 08:53:40 | captain_proton | haha |
| 08:54:26 | captain_proton | wonders why he didn't get one |
| 08:55:06 | paulj | hands capn a brown envelope |
| 08:55:13 | captain_proton | bwahaha |
| 08:55:26 | paulj | looks at the league web page and wonders when resurrections score is going to go up |
| 08:57:35 | captain_proton | is off to bed |
| 08:57:37 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 09:48:55 | akira_ | moin |
| 10:00:48 | akira_ | bzfsquery ducati.unix-ag.org 5156 |
| 10:00:56 | akira_ | bzfquery ducati.unix-ag.org 5156 |
| 10:00:57 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: 0 | Green: 2 players, score: 0 | |
| 10:33:16 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:33:16 | Chestal | ibot: ducati? |
| 10:33:17 | bzbot | The Meat (R): -1 (14-15). [KIM] Soft (G): -7 (16-23). greenmonkey (G): 24 (44-20). Pichula (R): -42 (28-70). |
| 10:33:45 | akira_ | oha |
| 10:33:50 | akira_ | Chestal: nett sache das |
| 10:33:54 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:33:54 | akira_ | ibot ducati |
| 10:33:55 | bzbot | The Meat (R): 2 (17-15). [KIM] Soft (G): -9 (16-25). greenmonkey (G): 24 (46-22). Pichula (R): -43 (29-72). |
| 10:46:59 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:46:59 | akira_ | ibot ducati |
| 10:47:00 | bzbot | The Meat (R): 0 (12-12). bolz (R): -14 (7-21). [KIM] Soft (G): -3 (43-46). greenmonkey (G): 50 (90-40). Pichula (R): -68 (34-102). Master Blaster (G): -1 (2-3). MIRELLA (G): 3 (3-0). |
| 11:35:31 | Cell | seems like there are no indexed vertex arrays possible in OpenGL!? |
| 11:37:00 | Cell | if that is true, i ask myself why its possible in DirectX |
| 11:37:53 | Cell | if i want to draw a quad face composed out of 2 triangles and 4 vertices |
| 11:39:21 | akira_ | what? |
| 11:39:43 | akira_ | no indexed vertex arrays? |
| 11:39:51 | akira_ | fairy tale? |
| 11:40:04 | Cell | float vertices[4*3] = {1,1,0 ,1,-1,0, -1,-1,0, -1,1,0}; |
| 11:40:12 | akira_ | ok |
| 11:40:48 | Cell | glVertexPointer(3,GL_FLOAT,0,vertices ); |
| 11:40:51 | akira_ | ok |
| 11:41:46 | Cell | glDrawArrays(GL_TRIANGLES,0,?); |
| 11:41:57 | Cell | ??? |
| 11:42:18 | akira_ | aahh .. |
| 11:42:37 | akira_ | do you want to mix up tris and quads? |
| 11:42:57 | akira_ | http://ask.ii.uib.no/ebt-bin/nph-dweb/dynaweb/SGI_Developer/OpenGL_PG/ |
| 11:42:57 | Cell | no i want to draw indexed triangles |
| 11:43:25 | Cell | and only put a vertex into an vertex array once |
| 11:43:43 | akira_ | http://ask.ii.uib.no/ebt-bin/nph-dweb/dynaweb/SGI_Developer/OpenGL_PG/@Generic__BookTextView/4466;cs=fullhtml;pt=4466;lang=de#X |
| 11:43:46 | Cell | if for example two or more triangles share a common vertex |
| 11:44:07 | akira_ | you put every vertex in a ONE vertexarray and use then multiple index arrays for your stuff |
| 11:44:49 | Cell | thank u for the links, i put a look at them now |
| 11:44:53 | akira_ | you could call the whole vertex array at once OR send different index arrays which specify the primitives ... |
| 11:45:08 | akira_ | lets assume you want to use triangles |
| 11:45:21 | Cell | but what is the name for the method to create an indexarray |
| 11:45:27 | akira_ | unsigned int index[4]= { 0, 1, 2, 3 }; |
| 11:45:36 | Cell | k |
| 11:46:30 | akira_ | glDrawElements(GL_TRIANGLES, 4, UNSIGNED_BYTE, index); |
| 11:46:32 | akira_ | thats it |
| 11:46:56 | Cell | ahhhhh, stupido me, thank u :)) |
| 11:47:15 | akira_ | bookmark the reference .. the redbook :) |
| 11:47:27 | Cell | done already, thanks |
| 11:47:29 | akira_ | so, cu .. got to go work now :) |
| 11:47:30 | akira_ | bye |
| 12:32:21 | | Test Failed! |
| 12:32:21 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 12:49:54 | akira_ | huhu |
| 13:02:08 | akira_ | re |
| 13:09:41 | strayer | hi |
| 13:10:01 | akira_ | re |
| 13:10:19 | strayer | btw...schoenen gruss von TeA |
| 13:11:17 | CLQ | Bye all |
| 13:13:00 | strayer | akira_: hast du zeit, mir nochn paar lektionen zu geben? |
| 13:16:18 | strayer | bzbot: arouse akira |
| 13:16:33 | strayer | schade....geht nicht... |
| 13:16:36 | akira_ | ne |
| 13:16:38 | akira_ | grade nich |
| 13:16:41 | akira_ | bin arbeiten |
| 13:16:45 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:16:45 | akira_ | ibot ducati |
| 13:16:46 | bzbot | nobody (G): 1 (4-3). doppy (R): -3 (3-6). MONA- (G): 0 (0-0). |
| 13:17:06 | strayer | ok...vielleicht mal spaeter irgendwannn |
| 13:17:17 | akira_ | heute eher unwahrscheinlich |
| 13:17:35 | strayer | hab ich mir fast schon gedacht :( |
| 13:22:28 | jpablo | morning. |
| 13:22:54 | akira_ | moin |
| 13:51:49 | Nicole3 | hey |
| 14:01:22 | strayer | hi nicole |
| 14:01:57 | Nicole3 | hola |
| 14:03:18 | akira_ | huhu |
| 16:10:16 | Cell | hi, how about making tanks hit box/volume size depending on their connection lag. If a tank has a big lag and is moving faster his hit box/volume grows to compansate lag. Of course if he is standing then his hit box has normal size.I think it may help out with lag. |
| 16:11:17 | Chestal | we are currently thinking of doing the collision checks in the serevr for 1.8 I guess |
| 16:11:30 | Cell | yes but that wont remove lag |
| 16:11:44 | Cell | and the problems remain |
| 16:11:52 | Chestal | well, the problems will be different |
| 16:11:58 | Chestal | if A has low lag and B high lag |
| 16:12:11 | Chestal | currently it's difficult for A to hit B and vice versa |
| 16:12:18 | Chestal | (I'll neglect jitter for now) |
| 16:12:21 | Cell | yes |
| 16:12:46 | Chestal | with a server-side detection, A will be able to hit B much easier and B will have provlems evading shots |
| 16:13:04 | Chestal | so A will then have the advantage |
| 16:13:05 | strayer | do U want to do it like the devs did with quake? |
| 16:13:18 | Chestal | I don't know what quake did |
| 16:13:42 | Cell | i dont know too, never played it |
| 16:14:58 | strayer | i think the hits are recognized by the server and the server 'calls' the client the hit |
| 16:15:18 | strayer | its so with quake i think |
| 16:15:29 | Cell | i think server side detection + enlarging bounding boxes depending on velocity and lag would do very well |
| 16:15:48 | Chestal | hmm, I don't see the need for the enlargement when the detection is moved to the server |
| 16:16:09 | strayer | jep |
| 16:16:32 | Chestal | with server-side detection, a lagged tnak will be as easy to hit as a non-lagged one, in fact, easier |
| 16:17:18 | Chestal | Fionn: nur in .de oder auch schon daheim? |
| 16:17:19 | Chestal | oops |
| 16:17:28 | Chestal | hi Fant |
| 16:17:34 | FantaZee | hallo chestal |
| 16:17:43 | FantaZee | ducati wieder up ? |
| 16:17:48 | Cell | i have to rething it |
| 16:18:21 | Chestal | Fant: ja, fileserver laeuft wieder mit halber Kraft, wird morgen nochmal kurz (?) weg sein |
| 16:18:47 | CLQ | bye |
| 16:18:49 | FantaZee | schoen zu hoeren :) |
| 16:20:00 | FantaZee | later |
| 16:21:30 | doughecka | greetings! |
| 16:22:02 | Cell | the bad thing is if i shoot a tank having high lag to the server it will be difficult too hit it because the detection takes place on the server my lag time later. So the opponent with a low lag may have been moved away from my shot during this time. So no hit occurs even if it looks on my client asthe bullet went right trough the tank |
| 16:22:49 | Chestal | Cell: hmm, this problem will only be significant when you (the shooter) are the lagging tank |
| 16:22:58 | Cell | yes |
| 16:23:04 | Chestal | hi dinah, wrong channel? ;-) |
| 16:23:31 | dinah | Chestal: im just looking for someone |
| 16:24:30 | Cell | no same problem if i have low lag and others have high lag |
| 16:24:38 | Chestal | hmm, no |
| 16:24:47 | Chestal | the lag of your opponent is no concern to you |
| 16:24:52 | jpablo | dum de dum, drs is gonne, now the guglmty is not complete again :-( |
| 16:25:13 | Chestal | Cell: it might only concern you, because a lagger will have more problems tryign to evade your shots |
| 16:25:34 | Chestal | Cell: when your lag is low, the server's view will be very similar to your own view |
| 16:25:42 | Cell | yes |
| 16:26:12 | Cell | k understand |
| 16:26:21 | Cell | u are right |
| 16:26:24 | doughecka | hey Widget! |
| 16:26:37 | strayer | Chestal: but isn't it circuitous (or so..)...because thats a totaly new concept for the severs.... |
| 16:26:58 | jpablo | hey [NS]Widget. |
| 16:27:06 | Chestal | strayer: please rephrase that :-) |
| 16:27:36 | doughecka | Mmm |
| 16:27:47 | strayer | hm...pf... aber aber eine serverseitige treffererkennung ist doch ein neues konzept, oder? |
| 16:27:56 | strayer | @Chestal |
| 16:28:08 | Chestal | strayer: ja, ist schon ne groessere Aenderung, klar |
| 16:28:14 | Chestal | strayer: ist halt angedachtund sollte getestet werden |
| 16:28:44 | strayer | Chestal: hui...dann viel spass beim umsetzen....ich koennte das nicht... |
| 16:28:52 | Widget | hihihi, doughecka, jpablo. |
| 16:28:56 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:29:01 | doughecka | and dinah too |
| 16:29:13 | Widget | Curses. Another problem. Restart. |
| 16:29:22 | doughecka | linux... |
| 16:30:54 | Chestal | strayer: ist prizipiell sogar recht einfach |
| 16:31:19 | Chestal | strayer: Hauptproblem ist, dass der Server imMoment weder die Position von Panzern noch von Shcuessen kennt, letzteres ist das schwierigste |
| 16:31:55 | strayer | Chestal: ach, das ist doch, worauf es lediglich ankommt, oder? |
| 16:32:06 | strayer | lediglich=eigentlich |
| 16:33:23 | strayer | Chestal: ihr mausschubser (entwickler) macht das schon irgendwie.... ;) |
| 16:33:38 | Chestal | ist mehr ne Fleissfrage :-) |
| 16:33:55 | Cell | shit, hab nicht auf die uhr geschaut: DragonballZ läuft gerade auf rtl2,tv Karte mach dich nützlich ;) |
| 16:34:12 | Widget | OK. |
| 16:34:14 | Widget | This works. |
| 16:34:22 | doughecka | what did you do? |
| 16:34:23 | strayer | Cell:....hat Zeit....grade werbung angelaufen |
| 16:34:31 | Cell | hm ok |
| 16:34:39 | Cell | stimmt das dauert immer |
| 16:34:47 | strayer | eben |
| 16:34:54 | Cell | ganz ruhig |
| 16:35:36 | strayer | Chestal: aber fleissarbeit macht doch nicht wirklich jemand gerne....die neuerung wird also noch ne weile auf sich warten lassen |
| 16:36:56 | strayer | has his dinner now.... |
| 16:37:16 | Cell | hoffentlich |
| 16:38:10 | Cell | dann kann ich noch ab und zu cheaten |
| 16:39:56 | Cell | hat jemand schon red skorpion gesehen? |
| 16:40:36 | Widget | Der ist ein Film? |
| 16:40:42 | Cell | ja |
| 16:41:06 | Cell | mit so einem blonden hochgeschossenem Blonden Supermuskelmann |
| 16:41:22 | doughecka | supermuskelmann? |
| 16:41:36 | Cell | ja |
| 16:41:47 | doughecka | and that means... |
| 16:41:48 | Cell | super muscle man |
| 16:41:56 | doughecka | I thought so... |
| 16:42:07 | doughecka | and a blond one too? |
| 16:42:19 | doughecka | blonden? |
| 16:42:23 | Cell | yes from norwegen or finnland i think |
| 16:42:30 | doughecka | and hochgeschossenem means... |
| 16:42:37 | Cell | very tall |
| 16:42:42 | doughecka | gosh |
| 16:42:48 | doughecka | very long too I guess |
| 16:42:53 | Cell | yes |
| 16:43:58 | Cell | Dolph Lundgren |
| 16:45:54 | Chestal | what a great actor ;-) |
| 16:46:02 | Cell | hehe |
| 16:46:23 | Chestal | Captain on the Bridge! |
| 16:47:26 | captain_proton | at ease! |
| 16:47:39 | doughecka | captain_proton: eh? |
| 16:47:44 | doughecka | greetings captain_proton |
| 16:48:03 | captain_proton | doughecka: ignore it - something before you arrived |
| 16:48:03 | Widget | doughecka: [05:51:57] 2<11Chestal2> Captain on the Bridge! |
| 16:48:15 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:48:35 | doughecka | walks past captain_proton |
| 16:55:25 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 16:55:41 | Widget | hihihi, Rudolf. |
| 16:56:02 | Cell | hey is the shot position managed by the server too? |
| 16:56:05 | [BZ]Ruudi | :) |
| 16:57:51 | captain_proton | Cell: not at the moment |
| 16:58:15 | captain_proton | right now even player position isn't known to the server |
| 16:59:30 | paulj | captain_proton: you going to bump up resurrections score or are you going to give that brown envelope back? :) |
| 17:00:09 | captain_proton | what was the result of the match? |
| 17:00:50 | Chestal | paulj: don't complain,you gained one point :-) |
| 17:00:58 | paulj | captain_proton: just joking.. 'twas 6-6 iirc - but i think chestal already did the score. |
| 17:01:05 | captain_proton | that he did |
| 17:01:13 | captain_proton | hides the envelope |
| 17:01:14 | paulj | Chestal: how did we gain a point from a draw? |
| 17:01:25 | captain_proton | paulj: the other team was rated higher than you to begin with |
| 17:01:33 | paulj | captain_proton: ah - clever. |
| 17:15:47 | Cell | is it possible to make a game like bzflag in one week or one day? |
| 17:18:05 | captain_proton | very much doubt it |
| 17:18:15 | Cell | i have prepared everything and start tomorrow, lets look how far i will be tomorrow and a week later... |
| 17:19:47 | Cell | an i code all in C |
| 17:20:02 | Cell | no get set shit calls |
| 17:20:40 | Chestal | in plain C? good luck |
| 17:20:41 | Cell | i know what i need and where i need it noo need for objects, just quick data structures |
| 17:21:34 | Cell | function pointers are the most powerful thing in C |
| 17:22:11 | captain_proton | but not terribly useful outside of specific situations |
| 17:22:40 | Cell | what situations? |
| 17:22:52 | captain_proton | like DSO-style plugins |
| 17:23:08 | Cell | DSO?, sorry |
| 17:23:23 | captain_proton | dynamic shared object |
| 17:23:24 | captain_proton | *.so |
| 17:23:37 | Cell | never heard, dont need that |
| 17:23:51 | Chestal | well, they're useful for callbacks or maps of handling fucntions, too |
| 17:24:09 | Cell | k |
| 17:24:11 | captain_proton | Chestal: true |
| 17:24:18 | captain_proton | and opengl extensions :) |
| 17:24:22 | Chestal | but a C++ functor can do even more |
| 17:24:55 | Cell | functor? |
| 17:25:02 | Cell | never heard either |
| 17:25:37 | Chestal | in C++, that's the name for a function object, i.e. an object with the function call operator defined |
| 17:25:47 | Chestal | more or less, its just a function pointer with additonal state |
| 17:25:55 | captain_proton | class x { |
| 17:25:58 | captain_proton | void operator (); |
| 17:25:59 | captain_proton | } |
| 17:26:11 | Cell | k, shit |
| 17:26:12 | Chestal | to post something useful: |
| 17:27:11 | Chestal | struct mult {double f; mult(double f_=1) : f(f_) {} double operator()(double a) const {return f*a;}}; |
| 17:27:19 | Cell | x my = new x() // constructor or function? |
| 17:27:40 | captain_proton | Cell: that'd be a constructor |
| 17:27:48 | Cell | thought so |
| 17:27:48 | captain_proton | then if you called my(), it'd be a function |
| 17:27:57 | Cell | its shit, as i said |
| 17:28:01 | Chestal | Cell: that's an error |
| 17:28:18 | Chestal | becasue type of new x() is x* |
| 17:28:27 | Chestal | or is it java? |
| 17:28:33 | Cell | k i know |
| 17:28:38 | Cell | just to much c# |
| 17:28:54 | Chestal | ok, c# and java is just about the samew :-) |
| 17:29:02 | Cell | yes |
| 17:29:36 | Cell | define a member function pointer, who can do without looking in abook? |
| 17:29:51 | Chestal | they are rarely used |
| 17:30:07 | Cell | but very powerful in some situations |
| 17:30:13 | Chestal | andI have no books here, so I have to do without ;-) |
| 17:30:21 | Cell | k, try |
| 17:31:18 | Chestal | well, be more specific |
| 17:31:25 | Chestal | about types |
| 17:31:26 | captain_proton | is sad that compilers mangle the names of member function pointers |
| 17:31:53 | Cell | some do, i know |
| 17:32:05 | Chestal | they magnle everything, what's esepcially bad about mangling with memfunps? |
| 17:32:22 | captain_proton | Chestal: it prevents you from doing something like this: |
| 17:32:24 | captain_proton | class x { |
| 17:32:34 | captain_proton | static int main(int argc, char **argv); |
| 17:32:37 | captain_proton | }; |
| 17:32:50 | Chestal | hmm, what language is that? |
| 17:32:53 | Chestal | ah, ok |
| 17:32:56 | Chestal | I misread it |
| 17:33:19 | captain_proton | (x::int)(*main)(int argc, char **argv); |
| 17:33:22 | captain_proton | err |
| 17:33:26 | captain_proton | = x::main |
| 17:33:42 | captain_proton | could do a pure object oriented program |
| 17:34:39 | Chestal | ehm, I cannot parse that line |
| 17:35:02 | captain_proton | bleh - its been a while since i was trying to do this |
| 17:35:12 | captain_proton | basically defining main as a function pointer to a static member of a class |
| 17:35:14 | Chestal | I don't even know what you're trying to do ;-) |
| 17:35:48 | Chestal | hmm, what's so cool about that? |
| 17:35:51 | captain_proton | but of course the compiler mangles it to something like __x_main_128471928 so then __start can't call it |
| 17:36:01 | Chestal | well, it has to |
| 17:36:14 | Chestal | the problem is not the name mangling |
| 17:36:29 | captain_proton | yes it is |
| 17:36:30 | Chestal | problem is that with C/C++ and normal environemnts, a free main function is called |
| 17:36:41 | Chestal | no |
| 17:36:52 | captain_proton | it calls the -symbol- '_main' |
| 17:36:53 | Chestal | you woudl have to specify the A for A::main |
| 17:37:01 | Chestal | as you have to do in java |
| 17:37:39 | Cell | hey just dont call it (*main) |
| 17:37:43 | Chestal | but that's really not an issue |
| 17:37:53 | Chestal | what does it buy you to have main as part of a class? |
| 17:38:14 | captain_proton | it buys you nothing |
| 17:38:22 | captain_proton | but it would be a nifty trick :) |
| 17:39:42 | Cell | class C{ void F(){}; void *(C::pF)();} //thats it |
| 17:40:01 | captain_proton | right |
| 17:40:17 | Chestal | no |
| 17:40:26 | Cell | sure |
| 17:40:50 | captain_proton | err |
| 17:40:51 | Chestal | its void (C::*pF)(); |
| 17:41:04 | Chestal | vor a pointer to a methof of class C takign no parameters and returning void |
| 17:41:09 | Cell | VC++ compiles it without errors |
| 17:41:19 | Chestal | that proves, that it's wrong ;-) |
| 17:42:43 | Cell | now u can konfigure a class with the right functions, so they are prepared to master every changing situation of their environment |
| 17:43:19 | Cell | just reconfigure if env changes, no if else statements |
| 17:43:48 | Cell | just like u configure a web server or a driver |
| 17:44:24 | Chestal | void *(C::pF)(); isn't valid C++ |
| 17:44:33 | viperman973 | hello |
| 17:44:37 | Widget | hihihi |
| 17:44:46 | viperman973 | how ya doin |
| 17:44:47 | Cell | and dont forget ur body configures to every situation to have optimal energy handling |
| 17:44:51 | Chestal | hi viperman |
| 17:45:01 | viperman973 | hey ches |
| 17:45:21 | Cell | but takes time |
| 17:45:42 | viperman973 | got everything restored chestal |
| 17:46:38 | Cell | its void (C::*pF)(); // ilike that better too |
| 17:47:00 | CLQ | Takes time to read everything quite interested realy, but busy. Thank god for logs! |
| 17:47:26 | Chestal | a fucntion returning and takign a member function pointer withotu typedefs looks really nice ;-) |
| 17:47:30 | Chestal | viperman: restored? |
| 17:47:46 | viperman973 | yep |
| 17:48:07 | Cell | tankgod thats my gamename favority |
| 17:48:12 | viperman973 | lost a lot but everything working a ok |
| 17:48:37 | viperman973 | im hoping that they will teach linux in college |
| 17:49:41 | Cell | i hoped i could use MS in uni but all i get was solaris, and now im happy about it, but dont like development software |
| 17:50:01 | captain_proton | solaris is nice if you slap gnu on it |
| 17:50:03 | captain_proton | :) |
| 17:51:00 | Cell | yes, maybe |
| 17:52:01 | Cell | int[] array; would be better then int array[]; |
| 17:52:19 | Cell | IMHO |
| 17:53:43 | captain_proton | so use java |
| 17:54:04 | Chestal | Cell: but I think it doesn't fit in with the type declaration synatx of C++ |
| 17:54:27 | Chestal | can be used in Java or C# because the type syntax is less complicated there |
| 17:56:07 | Cell | k thats true |
| 17:58:24 | Cell | i try to do everything, every action, is trigerred by a bbox overlapp with a action box overlapp |
| 17:59:16 | Cell | and if tank moves or shot the bbox of movement is constructed |
| 17:59:44 | Cell | ensuring fast objects dont go through small |
| 18:01:34 | Cell | dont know now how bzflag handels it, i think it does not construct a bbox of movement in [t,t+dt] |
| 18:05:10 | captain_proton | yaaaaay lunch |
| 18:05:18 | Cell | so if a chopper bbox overlaps with a spezific action bbox then a fuction is called that checks if chopper is on polygon(notflying) and begins filling with energy the chopper |
| 18:08:30 | Cell | believe me design is the most terrible thing, coding is fun then |
| 18:08:57 | Cell | and i design in my head, every detail |
| 18:09:22 | Widget | In Java (or C++) does 'new' allocate memory for the object's instance variables, etc.? |
| 18:09:43 | Cell | sure |
| 18:10:39 | Widget | So it's the objective C equivalent of: id newInstance = [[previousClass alloc] init]; ? |
| 18:11:56 | Cell | he? |
| 18:13:00 | Cell | objective C, whats that for a shit language? |
| 18:13:17 | Widget | ??? |
| 18:13:52 | Widget | doesnae understand. |
| 18:13:53 | Cell | objective C is that a script language with c syntax |
| 18:14:02 | Widget | No. |
| 18:14:05 | jpablo | escuse me, but object is not a shit language. |
| 18:14:12 | jpablo | it's a pretty good languaje. |
| 18:14:13 | Widget | jpablo: Thank you. |
| 18:14:28 | jpablo | in my opinion it's better than c++. |
| 18:14:48 | Cell | is it an extension of c++ to immitate java |
| 18:15:02 | Widget | It's a superset of C. |
| 18:15:14 | Widget | Not an extention of C++. |
| 18:15:24 | jpablo | objc has nothing to do with c++. |
| 18:15:37 | Cell | k but not widely used |
| 18:15:49 | Widget | Outside of Mac OS X, no. |
| 18:15:51 | jpablo | it is widely used. |
| 18:15:54 | jpablo | in the mac world. |
| 18:16:03 | jpablo | see linux's GNUStep too. |
| 18:16:10 | Cell | mac worl = kak world for me |
| 18:16:11 | Widget | Because Mac users are smarter. :) |
| 18:16:41 | Cell | i hate mac and i hate apple |
| 18:16:55 | jpablo | humm, cause you sucks. |
| 18:16:56 | jpablo | applet makes good hardware. |
| 18:17:09 | jpablo | his OS sucks, but that's another thing :P |
| 18:17:24 | eddienull | heh, why does the OS suck? |
| 18:17:37 | jpablo | well, i don't like it, maybe other people do. |
| 18:17:56 | Cell | but i like the mac video player |
| 18:18:00 | eddienull | it's UNIX, it rocks |
| 18:18:14 | jpablo | i don't linux UNIX, i like GNU :-) |
| 18:18:41 | jpablo | when i sit on a unix machine the fist thing i do is install the gnu tool chain. |
| 18:18:50 | Cell | i like unix too |
| 18:19:07 | Cell | and quick time player |
| 18:19:07 | eddienull | alot of the gnu tools are bundled with os x |
| 18:19:36 | Cell | cause unix is so simple |
| 18:20:06 | Cell | user friendly |
| 18:20:30 | jpablo | unix sucks, i like bash, not that sh,csh or ksh thingy :P |
| 18:20:45 | captain_proton | bash = sh ;) |
| 18:20:50 | captain_proton | tcsh,csh,ksh suck |
| 18:20:51 | Cell | i love ssh |
| 18:21:36 | jpablo | bash != original(sh) |
| 18:21:54 | eddienull | i assume you like vi as well? |
| 18:22:00 | Cell | but i hate xemacs |
| 18:22:04 | Cell | but like pine |
| 18:22:05 | jpablo | vi sucks. |
| 18:22:21 | jpablo | i like gnu emacs. |
| 18:22:50 | eddienull | i like BBEdit :) |
| 18:23:03 | Cell | why? |
| 18:23:40 | jpablo | i hate vi [command mode,edit mode] thing. |
| 18:24:17 | eddienull | it a powerful mac-native text editor. that's why I like os x. I can use the mac-apps i'm used to using on my unix config files, or my ftp or nfs mounted volumes :) |
| 18:25:36 | Cell | whats the regular url for url strings |
| 18:25:47 | Cell | regular expression |
| 18:28:03 | jpablo | a large one. |
| 18:28:06 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 18:28:18 | Cell | thought so |
| 18:28:30 | jpablo | look at the gnome-terminal source, i guess there's a regexp for that. |
| 18:28:30 | metal_magic | hello to everyone |
| 18:28:52 | captain_proton | 'http\:\/\/[a-zA-z0-9\.]*\.(com|org|net|biz)\/.*' is my best guess |
| 18:29:34 | captain_proton | but thats bad |
| 18:29:42 | metal_magic | regexp for what do you search? |
| 18:29:47 | Cell | url |
| 18:29:56 | captain_proton | instead of .* at the end you need something like [a-zA-z0-9\%]* |
| 18:30:07 | captain_proton | and add / to that too :) |
| 18:30:16 | Cell | k, try it |
| 18:30:30 | metal_magic | what about (https?|ftp)://[\-\/%~_:?=\#a-zA-Z0-9&] |
| 18:30:44 | metal_magic | sorry again: |
| 18:30:53 | metal_magic | (https?|ftp)://[\-\/%~_:?=\#a-zA-Z0-9&]+ |
| 18:30:54 | Cell | oh dont need that detail |
| 18:31:13 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 18:31:30 | captain_proton | metal_magic: need \. in there too |
| 18:31:35 | Cell | yes |
| 18:32:01 | metal_magic | ah yes, i was looking for bad part of regexp |
| 18:32:07 | metal_magic | it should be: |
| 18:32:11 | metal_magic | (https?|ftp)://[\-\.\,/%~_:?=\#a-zA-Z0-9&]+ |
| 18:32:50 | metal_magic | i have: |
| 18:33:08 | metal_magic | color body brightblue default (https?|ftp)://[\-\.\,/%~_:?=\#a-zA-Z0-9&]+[\-\/%~_:?=\#a-zA-Z0-9&]+ |
| 18:33:15 | metal_magic | in my muttrc :-) |
| 18:33:49 | metal_magic | but the last part is for that reason, if you write an on the end of the sentence |
| 18:34:02 | metal_magic | so it doesn't count that '.' to the url |
| 18:34:30 | metal_magic | hope i have explained it right :-) |
| 18:35:13 | Cell | yes nice |
| 18:38:02 | metal_magic | well, going to have a beer, anyone going with me? :-) |
| 18:38:34 | Cell | i dont drink, sorry |
| 18:39:23 | strayer_zZ | Cell: so U never go into the Alabama |
| 18:39:25 | metal_magic | but there will be 4 members of At nam vlaji vlasy team there ... :-) |
| 18:39:39 | Cell | no not alabama |
| 18:39:46 | Cell | i dont drinc alc |
| 18:39:55 | strayer_zZ | ohr...but the cheap alk.... |
| 18:40:05 | strayer_zZ | hm....strange Cell.... |
| 18:40:13 | Cell | yes but i have to be fit the next day |
| 18:40:22 | Cell | i have fun without alc |
| 18:40:37 | jpablo | alcohol is good, there's nothing like fucking up your brain a little once in a while. |
| 18:41:09 | Cell | but dont like the day after the alcohol session |
| 18:41:31 | jpablo | well it's just one day. |
| 18:41:51 | metal_magic | well, i'll tell my team no one wanted to go :-) |
| 18:41:59 | Cell | ich habe mal so viel alcohol in der lunalounge getrunken das ich die ganze ubahn vollgekotzt habe, |
| 18:42:10 | Widget | jpablo: Are there OpenGL bindings for Objective-C? |
| 18:42:23 | metal_magic | ibot: x de en ich habe mal so viel alcohol in der lunalounge getrunken das ich die ganze ubahn vollgekotzt habe |
| 18:42:24 | Cell | aber leider hatte ich danach einen unangenehmen Mandelabszest, |
| 18:42:27 | | metal_magic: I have times so much Alco-get into lunalounge drunk which I the whole ubahn vollgekotzt |
| 18:42:44 | metal_magic | grr! |
| 18:43:04 | metal_magic | i wanted that ubahn vollgekotzt translated! |
| 18:43:08 | Widget | metal_magic: Write a "How to tell if you're Czech" section for that website. |
| 18:43:10 | | ...but ibot is a bitch... |
| 18:43:10 | metal_magic | ibot: you are stupid |
| 18:43:24 | Cell | i have drunk so much alc that i puked the whole underground train |
| 18:43:47 | metal_magic | uff, puked -- what does it mean? |
| 18:43:57 | Cell | im not Czech |
| 18:44:15 | metal_magic | Widget: don't have time to do it |
| 18:44:18 | Cell | puked = expelled the contents of the stomach |
| 18:44:36 | metal_magic | ah, vomit |
| 18:44:45 | Cell | mit whisky |
| 18:45:07 | metal_magic | ibot: x de en aber leider hatte ich danach einen unangenehmen Mandelabszest |
| 18:45:10 | | metal_magic: but unfortunately I had thereafter an unpleasant Mandelabszest |
| 18:45:44 | Cell | almond abszess |
| 18:45:44 | metal_magic | ah, that is not good :-( |
| 18:46:07 | Cell | yes i know |
| 18:46:32 | Cell | but i survived it, and i have my almonds still as before |
| 18:47:12 | metal_magic | well, if no one wants to go, i will have to leave you ... cu :-) |
| 18:47:28 | Cell | bcu |
| 18:47:30 | Cell | cu |
| 18:49:53 | Cell | tommor i will start coding at 8 o'clock |
| 18:50:30 | Widget | ftp everything up every hour. |
| 18:51:27 | Cell | still waiting for directX9,0, then i could reject CSGL, a c# opengl wrapper |
| 18:52:36 | Cell | but openGL really is great |
| 18:53:29 | Cell | after i get used to it, i reallized its clean architecture |
| 18:53:41 | Cell | client server modell is nice |
| 18:55:20 | Cell | Take a look at Lloyd's http://csgl.sourceforge.net/ if u like |
| 18:55:50 | captain_proton | opengl isn't client server |
| 18:57:02 | Cell | its not? |
| 18:57:46 | Cell | but i thought u send the data +commands to the server |
| 18:58:25 | Cell | and the server puts it all trough the rendering pipeline |
| 19:01:56 | captain_proton | X windows is client server |
| 19:02:05 | captain_proton | and glx is an interface through that |
| 19:02:11 | captain_proton | but opengl itself is just a state machine |
| 19:03:36 | Cell | yes the server part is a state machine |
| 19:04:21 | captain_proton | but the only client-server architecture is internal to glx |
| 19:04:26 | captain_proton | the rest is just an API |
| 19:04:51 | Cell | k |
| 19:05:33 | captain_proton | the entire point of X and glx is that you don't have to care if the program is running locally or not |
| 19:06:06 | Cell | so its good for terminalls |
| 19:07:59 | Cell | would bzflag be a success if it did not support win32 |
| 19:08:26 | captain_proton | probably not as much |
| 19:08:33 | captain_proton | bzflag was a success even when it only ran on SGI's |
| 19:09:03 | Cell | oh,k |
| 19:11:25 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 19:11:33 | Cell | what about putting some background music, or winner honoring, i suggest: tina turner u are the best |
| 19:11:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | hahaa tina turner into bzflag :? |
| 19:12:14 | Cell | yes would sound geat;) |
| 19:12:36 | Cell | u are the best, after every sucessful hit |
| 19:12:49 | [BZ]Ruudi | i just made an ambient song and i'll name it tanks and flags :) |
| 19:13:06 | Cell | ur own song? |
| 19:13:09 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: hmm, care to send it here? |
| 19:13:13 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah |
| 19:13:14 | captain_proton | we're looking for bzflag music :) |
| 19:13:29 | Cell | cool |
| 19:13:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | well it's not something to put into bz but i'll upload it if i'll find any wav to mp3 thing |
| 19:14:15 | Cell | its *.wav? |
| 19:14:28 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: can you do .ogg? |
| 19:14:43 | captain_proton | and not something to put into bz? :P |
| 19:14:58 | captain_proton | (if you didn't know, we're looking for composers to make music for bz) |
| 19:15:17 | Widget | Ooh. |
| 19:15:25 | Widget | To play in the background or somesuch? |
| 19:15:29 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 19:15:40 | captain_proton | if you choose, downloaded from the server |
| 19:16:06 | Cell | i hate the laughing when team flag is dropped |
| 19:16:22 | Cell | it shocks me everytime |
| 19:16:37 | [BZ]Ruudi | no wavelab have no ogg output |
| 19:16:55 | Cell | make it nicer |
| 19:17:02 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: if you've got a .wav, you can use oggenc to make a vorbis file |
| 19:17:11 | Widget | [BZ]Ruudi: What was your bwepage again? http://www.ut.ee/...? |
| 19:17:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | yeah i know there is lot ogg thingies...but nevermind i'll upload mp3 at first |
| 19:17:37 | Widget | Cell: doughecka created some new sounds. |
| 19:17:45 | Widget | Cell: http://heckamangroup.com/files/sound.zip |
| 19:18:31 | [BZ]Ruudi | my webpage erasmus.cs.ut.ee/~ruudi |
| 19:18:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | but i'll drop that ambient link here as soon i got it loaded... |
| 19:19:11 | Cell | k |
| 19:19:28 | [BZ]Ruudi | it's not so song it's like high feaver slowmotion tank driving :) |
| 19:20:20 | [BZ]Ruudi | it will be parto of my live project i got to do at the end of august...(live bass and trumpet playing will be added) |
| 19:21:00 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 19:21:06 | captain_proton | had almost forgotten how good nightwish is |
| 19:21:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | öösoov :) |
| 19:22:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | öö - night soov- wish |
| 19:22:13 | captain_proton | soov? |
| 19:22:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | wish something -> soovi midagi |
| 19:22:35 | [BZ]Ruudi | thats my native :P |
| 19:22:45 | captain_proton | i see |
| 19:23:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | most beautiful native there is :) |
| 19:23:12 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:23:20 | captain_proton | what language is it? |
| 19:23:27 | [BZ]Ruudi | estonian |
| 19:23:31 | Cell | much pleasant sound from doughecka |
| 19:26:59 | Cell | estonia didnt u win last years EUROVISION contest |
| 19:27:09 | [BZ]Ruudi | but it wasn't me :P |
| 19:27:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.valgamaa.ee/Ringtee/Skipheads/tanks_and_flags.mp3 -- ok i'll turn it on and try some bz with that now :) |
| 19:28:02 | Cell | oh, too bad |
| 19:28:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | what's bad? |
| 19:29:04 | Cell | its a pitty = too bad that u was not the one who won |
| 19:29:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | hahaa i'm really not big pop fan :P |
| 19:29:18 | Cell | so everithing is all right |
| 19:30:59 | Cell | tanks_and_flags.mp3 sounds like a submarine moving slowly through the deepest darkest sea :) |
| 19:32:46 | captain_proton | only 17 more minutes till its finished downloading =P |
| 19:33:03 | Cell | what? |
| 19:33:13 | captain_proton | that mp3 |
| 19:33:16 | captain_proton | kicks his modem |
| 19:33:20 | Cell | oh |
| 19:34:27 | sussudio | why is bzflag so fucking buggy |
| 19:34:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | oh dialup not an mp3 thingie |
| 19:34:36 | Cell | buggy? |
| 19:34:40 | Cell | its not |
| 19:34:54 | sussudio | yes, buggy like locking up win2000 when i'm trying to connect to jzaun.com |
| 19:35:00 | [BZ]Ruudi | bz submarin patch needed sussudio |
| 19:35:07 | doughecka | same here |
| 19:35:13 | doughecka | i locks up on jzaun |
| 19:35:18 | sussudio | buggy like in locking up my keyboard and/or throwing garbage on my screen under debian gnu/linux....... |
| 19:35:30 | Cell | first connetion is blocking |
| 19:35:33 | doughecka | I am on windows 2000 and it locks up on jzaun |
| 19:35:48 | [BZ]Ruudi | jzaun is evil |
| 19:35:53 | sussudio | i had to use the reset button under windows 2000... NEVER had to do that before with ANY program. |
| 19:35:57 | Cell | euler too |
| 19:36:13 | doughecka | sussudio: I did the cntrl alt delte thingy |
| 19:36:16 | doughecka | I got out OK |
| 19:36:17 | Cell | i had too use the task manager often |
| 19:36:21 | doughecka | it just freezes bzflag |
| 19:36:22 | sussudio | doughecka: it didnt work |
| 19:36:24 | Cell | too kill bzflag |
| 19:36:28 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:36:34 | doughecka | I dunno what is with it |
| 19:36:38 | doughecka | maybe the maps? |
| 19:36:59 | sussudio | under kde/debian its much more responsive than under win2000 too except it either screws up my sound or video |
| 19:38:26 | captain_proton | seems to be an issue that the server crashes somehow and causes blocking behavior when clients try to connect |
| 19:38:46 | doughecka | captain_proton: but the server is running OK |
| 19:38:55 | doughecka | right? |
| 19:39:07 | captain_proton | doughecka: if nobody can connect without freezing? no |
| 19:39:27 | doughecka | doughecka: hmm, wierd |
| 19:41:22 | captain_proton | reproducable bugs are easy to fix |
| 19:41:35 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:41:48 | doughecka | its the servers problem |
| 19:41:56 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 19:41:56 | doughecka | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 19:42:10 | doughecka | I think it crashes bzbot too |
| 19:44:23 | captain_proton | wonderful |
| 19:44:29 | captain_proton | starts downloading the mp3 again |
| 19:44:39 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:44:48 | doughecka | gotta love dial-up |
| 19:44:52 | akira_ | moin |
| 19:45:03 | doughecka | moin akira_ |
| 19:46:59 | sussudio | blah. there's either 12 people on a server (which is too much for my connection) or NOBODY on a server |
| 19:47:15 | doughecka | ha |
| 19:47:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | man get yourself a normal downloader even opera can do it :) |
| 19:47:30 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: http cannot be resumed |
| 19:47:36 | sussudio | captain_proton: can too |
| 19:47:42 | doughecka | captain_proton: I have done it |
| 19:47:46 | sussudio | use wget |
| 19:47:56 | [BZ]Ruudi | but you can resume downloads in opera |
| 19:48:05 | captain_proton | sussudio: i AM using wget |
| 19:48:09 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:48:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | even if they not ftp |
| 19:48:11 | captain_proton | the PROTOCOL doesn't support it |
| 19:48:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | and wget can resume http |
| 19:48:27 | doughecka | then get a real computer |
| 19:48:42 | captain_proton | ftp supports resume |
| 19:48:45 | captain_proton | http does not |
| 19:48:45 | [BZ]Ruudi | well protocol doesn't but you can do it i dont know how |
| 19:49:19 | captain_proton | the only way you can do it is via some weird services that download it to a temporary machine then ftp it down to you |
| 19:50:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | well i download same file with opera that you do...i quit opera and then run again and just do resume for file and it works |
| 19:51:06 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 19:51:09 | doughecka | same in IE too |
| 19:51:10 | captain_proton | that means you're also using opera ;) |
| 19:51:15 | doughecka | it starts in the middle |
| 20:03:06 | doughecka | 2000 crashed |
| 20:08:21 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: ooh this ambient rocks :) |
| 20:08:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | thnx :) |
| 20:08:42 | [BZ]Ruudi | ambient rocks first time i hear :P |
| 20:09:26 | captain_proton | willing to become a bz composer? :) |
| 20:09:57 | doughecka | put classical in it too |
| 20:10:11 | [BZ]Ruudi | if you can imagine there a trumpet and bass in open ear in real calm nature all playing loud up on the hill that was an old defence for people...then you will get what's it gonna be :) |
| 20:10:33 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:10:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | bz composer :P nice title |
| 20:11:02 | doughecka | what we need is the ability to broadcast music FROM the tank, so anyone near it can hear it, but not near |
| 20:11:04 | doughecka | er |
| 20:11:11 | doughecka | but not far from it |
| 20:11:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | that would be cool |
| 20:11:24 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:11:28 | captain_proton | doughecka: clients and/or server ops will be able to specify any music |
| 20:11:33 | captain_proton | but we want some original bz-only stuff |
| 20:11:37 | doughecka | it would wast bandwidth |
| 20:11:43 | [BZ]Ruudi | bzradio should be there :) kind of playlist in tank maybe |
| 20:11:45 | doughecka | ohh |
| 20:11:56 | doughecka | so the server will upload a song to the game? |
| 20:12:04 | captain_proton | doughecka: something like that |
| 20:12:09 | Widget | watches the slow transformation of BZFlag from multiplayer tank game to glorified ogg player. |
| 20:12:11 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:12:16 | doughecka | Widget: :) |
| 20:12:18 | captain_proton | if the client wants to download it |
| 20:12:22 | [BZ]Ruudi | http://www.hanila.ee/turism_vatla_maalinn.php3 - on that place will be that music played |
| 20:12:29 | [BZ]Ruudi | on that hill |
| 20:12:48 | doughecka | captain_proton: yes, but could the client have sound along with the avatar? |
| 20:13:03 | doughecka | so they press a button, and it honks and stuff |
| 20:13:05 | captain_proton | doughecka: explain |
| 20:13:11 | doughecka | or play music |
| 20:13:11 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:13:19 | doughecka | hopes |
| 20:13:21 | captain_proton | could possibly build in client-triggered sound effects |
| 20:13:27 | captain_proton | but i doubt the tank itself would play music |
| 20:13:30 | captain_proton | because of the bandwidth load |
| 20:13:34 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:13:35 | doughecka | well |
| 20:13:48 | doughecka | people with high lag could have it auto off |
| 20:13:53 | doughecka | so no sounds |
| 20:14:04 | doughecka | just spoil us dsl and cable people |
| 20:14:05 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:19:23 | Widget | Are there Objective-C bindings for OpenGL? |
| 20:23:14 | sussudio | now that i've attracted every bug in the neighbourhood with my 3 lightbulbs and open window...... what to do with them.... |
| 20:23:34 | doughecka | sussudio: dinner of course! |
| 20:24:05 | Widget | Ewwww. |
| 20:24:16 | doughecka | ;) |
| 20:24:20 | sussudio | hm i wonder how micro beetles taste |
| 20:25:14 | doughecka | yum.... toasted on a processor :) |
| 20:25:35 | sussudio | that might be a problem... the processor is vertical |
| 20:26:48 | BZFrank | hi |
| 20:27:02 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:27:06 | doughecka | HEY BZFrank!!! |
| 20:27:12 | doughecka | you got the OS X yet? |
| 20:27:22 | BZFrank | working on it, linux is ready ;) |
| 20:27:42 | doughecka | darn, but linux is ready eh? I cant wait for my new grafics card... |
| 20:27:50 | doughecka | then I could try it out... |
| 20:28:21 | BZFrank | yep, when will you get it? |
| 20:28:32 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:28:35 | BZFrank | ordered a new system today |
| 20:28:41 | doughecka | hopefull in the next few weeks |
| 20:28:54 | doughecka | I got it off of ebay, so I have to wait for a reply email |
| 20:28:59 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:29:12 | BZFrank | let me know and I send you the linux version (only 500 kByte for the binaries) |
| 20:29:17 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:29:19 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:29:20 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:29:49 | doughecka | hmm, but I would like to really see it on OS X |
| 20:29:51 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:29:54 | BZFrank | hey monkey!! :) |
| 20:29:56 | m0nkey_b0y | hi all |
| 20:29:59 | doughecka | I dunno what card it has though |
| 20:30:01 | m0nkey_b0y | howdy frank! |
| 20:30:01 | doughecka | hi m0nkey_b0y |
| 20:30:12 | BZFrank | will do it, but as told it will take some days - have real work to do |
| 20:30:27 | doughecka | hehe |
| 20:30:35 | BZFrank | real == paid ;) |
| 20:30:41 | m0nkey_b0y | $$$ |
| 20:30:50 | BZFrank | lot of $$$$ :) |
| 20:30:57 | m0nkey_b0y | oh yeah? |
| 20:31:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | oh work hell i need to do it too :( |
| 20:31:43 | BZFrank | my new system will be the shuttle SS51G with P4 2.5 Gz, GF4600 and a - hold your breath - 23 inch TFT screen that needs some bucks to buy ;) |
| 20:31:46 | doughecka | wow |
| 20:31:51 | doughecka | WOW |
| 20:32:00 | m0nkey_b0y | yikes |
| 20:32:02 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm nice |
| 20:32:14 | doughecka | W (dash) O (dash) W |
| 20:32:19 | [BZ]Ruudi | i would buy mac with two 1Gz G4 :) |
| 20:32:19 | strayer_zZ | want to have such an TFT too! |
| 20:32:28 | m0nkey_b0y | ew |
| 20:32:33 | BZFrank | costs 3500 Euro here (incl. VAT) |
| 20:32:33 | m0nkey_b0y | hehe |
| 20:32:39 | [BZ]Ruudi | but i only WOULD :P |
| 20:32:53 | doughecka | and I am gonna get duron 1.3 mobo to upgrade my comp |
| 20:32:56 | m0nkey_b0y | proton you there? |
| 20:33:21 | strayer_zZ | oh...very expensive |
| 20:33:32 | doughecka | strayer_zZ: get mack in bed... |
| 20:33:32 | m0nkey_b0y | proton and patlabor were throwing some words last nite eh? |
| 20:33:39 | doughecka | m0nkey_b0y: yup |
| 20:33:45 | BZFrank | why? |
| 20:33:48 | doughecka | impressive |
| 20:33:50 | m0nkey_b0y | did it get worse? |
| 20:33:52 | doughecka | BZFrank: for fun |
| 20:33:59 | BZFrank | ah |
| 20:33:59 | doughecka | m0nkey_b0y: I dunno, I left for bed |
| 20:34:06 | m0nkey_b0y | they were not serious were they? |
| 20:34:14 | doughecka | m0nkey_b0y: I dont think so |
| 20:34:23 | doughecka | checks logs |
| 20:34:26 | m0nkey_b0y | was a little ugly frank. |
| 20:34:38 | m0nkey_b0y | i rather see people get along. |
| 20:34:47 | BZFrank | me too |
| 20:35:07 | m0nkey_b0y | too easy for people to NOT get along these days. |
| 20:36:19 | m0nkey_b0y | hi bzgirl |
| 20:36:38 | bzgirl | hi m0nkey_b0y, hows that laptop? |
| 20:36:48 | m0nkey_b0y | its sucky |
| 20:36:49 | doughecka | BZFrank: Mmmm, I suppose you tested it on a gf2 MX400 right? |
| 20:37:09 | BZFrank | hi bzgirl |
| 20:37:29 | bzgirl | hey Frank, hows it going? |
| 20:37:41 | BZFrank | doug: GF2MX not the GF4MX440 which is more like a GF2GTS |
| 20:37:55 | doughecka | greetings and salutatings bzgirl, welcome to the land of BOZ, bow down and pay tribute to the king! |
| 20:38:06 | BZFrank | bzgirl: ok, my father is still is hospital but he regained consciousness again and it looks better |
| 20:38:10 | doughecka | BZFrank: and the gf2gts is good? |
| 20:38:22 | bzgirl | wow, awesome!! |
| 20:38:25 | BZFrank | its ok, should be cheap on ebay |
| 20:38:25 | m0nkey_b0y | sorry to hear your father is ill frank |
| 20:38:38 | doughecka | BZFrank: hehe |
| 20:38:43 | doughecka | yea me too |
| 20:38:47 | bzgirl | thats so good Frank, better at least.. |
| 20:39:08 | bzgirl | i couldnt get the demo thing to run :( |
| 20:39:10 | doughecka | whats a good bitrate for streaming through out a dsl connectiong... |
| 20:39:15 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm how to burn bin file in win2000 ? |
| 20:39:16 | BZFrank | about 2 weeks ago he broke down with a brain haemorrage, I took him to hospital for an emergency surgery, he went into coma for 14 days |
| 20:39:26 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: get a mac |
| 20:39:34 | [BZ]Ruudi | it's for mac only? |
| 20:39:37 | doughecka | BZFrank: wow |
| 20:39:45 | doughecka | [BZ]Ruudi: no, but its easyer |
| 20:39:47 | m0nkey_b0y | yikes. he is improved bigtime then frank. |
| 20:39:52 | BZFrank | thats also the reason why p2501 is a bit delay - I needed the time for my family |
| 20:40:05 | m0nkey_b0y | 2501 |
| 20:40:10 | m0nkey_b0y | makes me smile |
| 20:40:17 | doughecka | grins |
| 20:40:35 | doughecka | grins till his grin freezes and falls off |
| 20:40:54 | BZFrank | monkey: got my first test story on http://holarse.wue.de/index.php?content=p2501 :) :) :) |
| 20:41:01 | [BZ]Ruudi | hmm bin to iso converter maybe will help... |
| 20:41:17 | doughecka | I thought a ISO WAS a bin |
| 20:41:21 | m0nkey_b0y | i look now frank. |
| 20:41:24 | doughecka | er |
| 20:41:25 | BZFrank | it the german "Playing on Linux" portal so the article is in german |
| 20:41:28 | doughecka | bin IS a was |
| 20:41:32 | doughecka | was/iso |
| 20:41:39 | BZFrank | but Bender did like it very much :) |
| 20:41:53 | doughecka | http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fholarse.wue.de%2Findex.php%3Fcontent%3Dp2501&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools |
| 20:41:59 | BZFrank | monkey: you run linux, yes? |
| 20:42:10 | m0nkey_b0y | yes i do frank |
| 20:42:16 | bzgirl | corel :) |
| 20:42:26 | m0nkey_b0y | har |
| 20:42:33 | BZFrank | then I'll send you the new linux release of p2501 including a working linux server |
| 20:42:41 | m0nkey_b0y | woohoo! |
| 20:42:46 | m0nkey_b0y | very awesome |
| 20:42:46 | BZFrank | I finished it two days ago |
| 20:42:51 | doughecka | BZFrank: hehe |
| 20:42:56 | BZFrank | bzgirl: you too? |
| 20:43:02 | bzgirl | omg yes!!!! |
| 20:43:08 | Widget | Ooh, lucky. |
| 20:43:19 | doughecka | BZFrank: ack, might as well add me too |
| 20:43:22 | m0nkey_b0y | widget speaks. |
| 20:43:29 | doughecka | BZFrank: I am gonna get a card some time... |
| 20:43:44 | Widget | just fakes it well. |
| 20:43:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | lucky people who can run linux.... |
| 20:44:03 | m0nkey_b0y | linux runs me. |
| 20:44:06 | BZFrank | bzgirl: ok :) |
| 20:44:18 | BZFrank | monkey: you got mail |
| 20:44:23 | m0nkey_b0y | ;) |
| 20:44:27 | bzgirl | BZFrank: thanks alot.. |
| 20:44:44 | m0nkey_b0y | working server frank? ready for play? |
| 20:45:48 | doughecka | wow! |
| 20:45:52 | m0nkey_b0y | yummy...a new toy. |
| 20:45:55 | doughecka | nice screen shots on the artical |
| 20:46:11 | doughecka | mines blowing up |
| 20:46:35 | BZFrank | monkey: yes, there is still a scroring bug, but the server should allow up to 128 clients to connect in a game |
| 20:46:48 | doughecka | BZFrank: wow |
| 20:47:15 | BZFrank | well, much more than 32 does not make sense, except in a LAN envirnment ;) |
| 20:47:28 | BZFrank | also it is getting a bit crowded on teh gamefield |
| 20:47:30 | BZFrank | :) |
| 20:47:37 | m0nkey_b0y | hehe |
| 20:47:44 | doughecka | BZFrank: can you have a huge gamefield? |
| 20:47:44 | Widget | Fooey. Debian doesn't have a 3Dstep package. |
| 20:48:09 | Widget | is away: Just away. |
| 20:48:30 | BZFrank | doug: yes, up to 10000x10000 meters |
| 20:48:41 | doughecka | BZFrank: coool |
| 20:48:48 | m0nkey_b0y | that is really cool |
| 20:48:50 | BZFrank | it is a world option, just set the size |
| 20:48:51 | doughecka | thats, big |
| 20:49:06 | m0nkey_b0y | can have some interesting game styles |
| 20:49:10 | doughecka | hehe |
| 20:49:12 | BZFrank | also the fog level is a world options, just set it for the server and all clients get the fog ;) |
| 20:49:20 | doughecka | like 2 citys against ech other |
| 20:49:27 | doughecka | BZFrank: coool |
| 20:49:37 | BZFrank | KTB game mode will use it ;) |
| 20:49:38 | m0nkey_b0y | have to villages go to battle ctf style...with 32 players... |
| 20:49:40 | m0nkey_b0y | hmmm |
| 20:49:44 | BZFrank | KTB = KickTheBottle/Ball |
| 20:49:58 | BZFrank | tanks playing soccer freestyle ;) |
| 20:50:02 | m0nkey_b0y | kick the monkey |
| 20:50:12 | bzgirl | even better.. |
| 20:50:13 | doughecka | kicks the monkey |
| 20:50:22 | m0nkey_b0y | man |
| 20:50:42 | BZFrank | each team gets a goal instead of a base and you need to kick the ball in the others goal to score |
| 20:50:50 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:50:55 | BZFrank | so in essence - soccer with tanks |
| 20:51:01 | doughecka | you can shoot the ball? |
| 20:51:06 | m0nkey_b0y | i am good at both ;) |
| 20:51:10 | doughecka | or run agaist it? |
| 20:51:17 | BZFrank | yes, GM will give it a great kick otherwise a small |
| 20:51:17 | doughecka | m0nkey_b0y: where are you located? |
| 20:51:19 | BZFrank | yes |
| 20:51:24 | m0nkey_b0y | usa doug |
| 20:51:30 | doughecka | BZFrank: how about a atom bomb? |
| 20:51:34 | doughecka | :Z |
| 20:51:44 | BZFrank | also a tank can jump while kicking a ball it will then fly longer and wider |
| 20:51:48 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:51:56 | BZFrank | doug: well, useful to clear the path |
| 20:52:04 | doughecka | BZFrank: haha |
| 20:52:55 | BZFrank | doug: see the project page: http://www.wizards.de/~frank/project2501/ I have included screenshots for the Abomb effect |
| 20:53:10 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:53:12 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:53:19 | BZFrank | at the bottom - labled 'what to see the light?' ;) |
| 20:53:24 | BZFrank | want |
| 20:53:29 | doughecka | HAHAHHAA |
| 20:53:35 | doughecka | thats looks great! |
| 20:53:37 | doughecka | wow |
| 20:54:22 | BZFrank | and you should see it on screen and hear the sound ;) |
| 20:54:29 | captain_proton | BZFrank: send me leenox 2501! |
| 20:54:42 | BZFrank | ah, captain my captain |
| 20:54:44 | doughecka | BZFrank: sounds? |
| 20:54:49 | BZFrank | SOUNDS! |
| 20:54:49 | doughecka | sound? |
| 20:55:08 | BZFrank | abomb in 44kHz taken from the old Test movies ;) |
| 20:55:14 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:55:26 | doughecka | I hear no sounds |
| 20:55:26 | doughecka | ;) |
| 20:55:31 | BZFrank | :) |
| 20:55:36 | captain_proton | pokes BZFrank |
| 20:55:39 | captain_proton | i wanna play :) |
| 20:55:52 | captain_proton | erk |
| 20:55:55 | doughecka | whoops |
| 20:56:00 | doughecka | haha |
| 20:56:03 | BZFrank | ups |
| 20:56:28 | captain_proton | wb BZFrank |
| 20:57:29 | BZFrank | captain: whats you email address again? |
| 20:57:39 | captain_proton | BZFrank: jupiter at babylonia dot flatirons dot org |
| 20:57:53 | m0nkey_b0y | captain |
| 20:58:10 | m0nkey_b0y | you and patlabor make up? |
| 20:58:16 | captain_proton | m0nkey_b0y: hum? |
| 20:58:31 | m0nkey_b0y | you guys were slanging some words last nite. |
| 20:58:38 | captain_proton | it was all joking |
| 20:58:39 | m0nkey_b0y | was that serious? |
| 20:58:43 | m0nkey_b0y | ahh ok |
| 20:58:57 | captain_proton | doughecka thought he started a flame war, so pat & i decided to show him what a real one looked like |
| 20:59:00 | captain_proton | but it was about nothing |
| 20:59:06 | m0nkey_b0y | ok |
| 20:59:09 | doughecka | captain_proton: hehe |
| 20:59:16 | m0nkey_b0y | you two had me worried |
| 20:59:29 | BZFrank | captain: you got mail |
| 20:59:35 | m0nkey_b0y | i thought i might have to flex my muscles |
| 20:59:36 | BZFrank | bzgirl: you got mail |
| 20:59:50 | captain_proton | BZFrank: thankees |
| 20:59:53 | bzgirl | hugs frank |
| 21:00:14 | BZFrank | captain: let me know if it works for you, my linux tests were limited to my box for now |
| 21:00:27 | BZFrank | bzgirl: thx :) |
| 21:00:31 | doughecka | BZFrank: woo, I cant wait for OS X |
| 21:00:35 | m0nkey_b0y | hey frank...want a hug from me too????? |
| 21:00:37 | m0nkey_b0y | hehehe |
| 21:00:45 | BZFrank | monkey: buy me a beer ;) |
| 21:00:53 | m0nkey_b0y | for sure! |
| 21:01:04 | m0nkey_b0y | if i can get a trip out there, we will party. |
| 21:01:17 | BZFrank | next time in Albu, maybe I visit again in Spring |
| 21:01:22 | m0nkey_b0y | i will drag chestal out with us too. |
| 21:01:26 | BZFrank | heehee |
| 21:01:30 | doughecka | m0nkey_b0y: after he is done with OS X |
| 21:01:31 | m0nkey_b0y | i hope you do. |
| 21:01:44 | doughecka | ;) |
| 21:01:55 | m0nkey_b0y | let me know if you need help finding a place frank. |
| 21:02:09 | doughecka | BZFrank: the sounds, sound nice |
| 21:02:11 | m0nkey_b0y | doug: os XXX |
| 21:02:25 | BZFrank | thanks! I think I can stay with Andrew (my business partner), he has a farm near the Rio Grande |
| 21:02:25 | doughecka | m0nkey_b0y: nah |
| 21:02:43 | BZFrank | but I'll keep it in mind ;) |
| 21:02:54 | m0nkey_b0y | anytime frank |
| 21:02:57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:03:03 | doughecka | we could have a bzconfrence! |
| 21:03:12 | m0nkey_b0y | where are you from doug? |
| 21:03:26 | BZFrank | BZCon! |
| 21:03:38 | m0nkey_b0y | bzcon! |
| 21:03:39 | doughecka | m0nkey_b0y:blah, cant sppeeel kentucky, LY |
| 21:03:42 | BZFrank | now that is a plan ;) |
| 21:03:46 | m0nkey_b0y | ahhh |
| 21:03:51 | doughecka | BZFrank: then again, maybe not |
| 21:03:59 | m0nkey_b0y | bzcon...location suggestions? |
| 21:04:00 | BZFrank | would be nice for sure! |
| 21:04:08 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:04:09 | doughecka | m0nkey_b0y: louisville |
| 21:04:13 | strayer | ...but where? |
| 21:04:18 | doughecka | central |
| 21:04:22 | captain_proton | we woulda had an e6 release party at OLS if anybody other than tim was there :) |
| 21:04:28 | BZFrank | Germany, I know a nice biergarten around here ;) |
| 21:04:29 | doughecka | hha |
| 21:04:39 | strayer | hehe |
| 21:04:44 | captain_proton | BZFrank: oof - since all the data is the same, don't you just have a package with binaries & such? |
| 21:04:48 | doughecka | BZFrank: how about heidelberg? |
| 21:04:54 | doughecka | BZFrank: its nice |
| 21:04:58 | strayer | no...not germany |
| 21:05:02 | BZFrank | cp: the data was repacked, use the full version pelase |
| 21:05:03 | m0nkey_b0y | i would love to go to germany |
| 21:05:25 | captain_proton | BZFrank: mmmmk |
| 21:05:29 | strayer | no....wanna go out of germany....what about australia? |
| 21:05:29 | BZFrank | go rid of 3 MB debris inside the deta.zip (old stuff) |
| 21:05:31 | doughecka | me too |
| 21:05:38 | captain_proton | 42 minutes left on the download :P |
| 21:05:40 | doughecka | strayer: the moon |
| 21:05:42 | BZFrank | australia sounds ok too |
| 21:05:50 | BZFrank | fidji! |
| 21:05:55 | strayer | jep |
| 21:05:58 | m0nkey_b0y | thailand |
| 21:06:00 | doughecka | new screen shots? |
| 21:06:00 | BZFrank | good for scuba diving too! |
| 21:06:21 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:06:26 | doughecka | lets get back to p2501 |
| 21:06:30 | doughecka | shall we? |
| 21:06:32 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:06:33 | BZFrank | a few |
| 21:06:34 | strayer | U like diving bzfrank? |
| 21:06:39 | BZFrank | yep |
| 21:06:48 | strayer | hm...tea too |
| 21:06:49 | BZFrank | doug: see the page |
| 21:06:55 | doughecka | cool |
| 21:07:18 | BZFrank | was in Martinique this spring on the 'Sir Robert' (Sailing and Diving Cruises) |
| 21:07:21 | doughecka | the dust and clouds look great |
| 21:07:57 | strayer | bzfrank: ...*envious* |
| 21:08:01 | BZFrank | and all without any special extensions ;) should run on most any card as long as it is fast enough |
| 21:08:02 | doughecka | weee, neeed DaBomb in bzflag |
| 21:08:09 | strayer | no... |
| 21:08:12 | doughecka | BZFrank: like the gf2 MX400? |
| 21:08:19 | BZFrank | yes, for sure |
| 21:08:29 | doughecka | wow, I cant wait |
| 21:08:35 | BZFrank | it even runs on a TNT2 ;) |
| 21:08:52 | captain_proton | BZFrank: but can it do this?: http://bzflag.org/anaglyph.jpg |
| 21:09:00 | doughecka | hoo, he emailed me for the card!!! |
| 21:09:07 | doughecka | dances for joy |
| 21:09:14 | doughecka | about time too |
| 21:09:59 | BZFrank | captain: no, but can you do this? http://www.wizards.de/~frank/project2501/Atomic_blast_1.jpg :) |
| 21:10:10 | doughecka | captain_proton: PLEASE!!! |
| 21:10:13 | doughecka | ;) |
| 21:10:32 | captain_proton | growls |
| 21:10:47 | doughecka | captain_proton: you can do it!! |
| 21:10:48 | doughecka | ;) |
| 21:10:54 | BZFrank | lol :) |
| 21:11:21 | BZFrank | captain: no worries, bzflag has its place and so has p2501 |
| 21:11:29 | doughecka | sighs |
| 21:11:34 | captain_proton | BZFrank: i suggest you take the time to add anaglyph stereo - its only about 5 minutes |
| 21:11:45 | doughecka | BZFrank: please!!! |
| 21:11:46 | doughecka | ;) |
| 21:14:13 | BZFrank | doug: shut up! :) |
| 21:14:13 | m0nkey_b0y | hehe |
| 21:14:13 | BZFrank | captain: ok, but only 5 minutes! |
| 21:14:13 | doughecka | BZFrank: ;) |
| 21:14:13 | doughecka | all right! |
| 21:14:13 | captain_proton | BZFrank: looks like there may be a third too! |
| 21:14:13 | BZFrank | third? |
| 21:14:13 | doughecka | why not give captain_proton: a very small part of the code |
| 21:14:13 | doughecka | so he can do it |
| 21:14:13 | captain_proton | BZFrank: http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/ |
| 21:14:14 | doughecka | oops, hes lazy |
| 21:14:14 | BZFrank | he shall have it all, as soon as it is cleaned up and ready ;) |
| 21:14:14 | doughecka | I fergot |
| 21:14:14 | doughecka | BZFrank: cool |
| 21:14:14 | captain_proton | BZFrank: it all? including the super-sekret authentication layer? =} |
| 21:14:14 | doughecka | captain_proton: of course not |
| 21:14:14 | doughecka | lo MrApathyCream!!! |
| 21:14:18 | captain_proton | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 21:14:34 | BZFrank | no, SE SUUPPERR SEKRET AUTENTIFIKATION LAAAYER STTAYYS MINEEEE HEHEHE :) |
| 21:14:41 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 21:14:50 | BZFrank | sorry ;) inside scientist mode off ;) |
| 21:14:54 | doughecka | mr evil BZFrank |
| 21:14:59 | doughecka | :P |
| 21:15:14 | doughecka | lo M_A_C!! |
| 21:15:18 | MrApathyCream | yo |
| 21:15:41 | BZFrank | captain: i have no troubles giving you also the authentification stuff, if you do not give it anyone else without my consent, ok? |
| 21:15:57 | captain_proton | BZFrank: of course |
| 21:16:13 | BZFrank | I really believe you are not in the business for making cheating clients.. :) |
| 21:16:19 | captain_proton | signs his name in doughecka's blood |
| 21:16:24 | m0nkey_b0y | heh |
| 21:16:36 | m0nkey_b0y | you can use my blood |
| 21:16:42 | m0nkey_b0y | its tasty |
| 21:16:54 | captain_proton | m0nkey_b0y: then i don't get to bleed doughecka... |
| 21:17:09 | BZFrank | captain: it is enough to send me a a DNA sample :) |
| 21:17:12 | m0nkey_b0y | true...lets bleed him |
| 21:17:37 | captain_proton | fj33rs the cappy-clones |
| 21:17:46 | BZFrank | btw you know www.villainsupply.com - great stuff! |
| 21:17:50 | m0nkey_b0y | i can get that DNA signature quicker than a PGP key |
| 21:17:57 | captain_proton | BZFrank: yes yes! |
| 21:18:02 | BZFrank | monkey - that I belive! |
| 21:18:19 | m0nkey_b0y | hehe |
| 21:19:36 | BZFrank | do you know if the bza will also be opensource? |
| 21:19:48 | captain_proton | BZFrank: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA5897FB9 |
| 21:20:21 | captain_proton | BZFrank: dunno - right now its just patlabor's testbed. if it ends up existing, i'm pretty sure it'd be gpl |
| 21:21:15 | BZFrank | nice hud, but it seems limited to only primitives (sphere, box, pyramid) |
| 21:21:55 | [BZ]Ruudi | what's bza? |
| 21:22:15 | BZFrank | http://www.artemisgames.com/bza/ |
| 21:22:24 | [BZ]Ruudi | thnx |
| 21:22:28 | doughecka | captain_proton: I am armed |
| 21:22:46 | doughecka | I have a whole battery of tanks in my town |
| 21:22:51 | captain_proton | doughecka: and legged too |
| 21:22:53 | [BZ]Ruudi | based on bz engine? |
| 21:23:00 | doughecka | captain_proton: and... |
| 21:23:03 | captain_proton | [BZ]Ruudi: nope |
| 21:23:10 | [BZ]Ruudi | looks nice anyway |
| 21:24:01 | captain_proton | if patlabor decides to make a real game i think i'd like to see it filled with shaders :) |
| 21:24:25 | BZFrank | for sure! |
| 21:24:44 | captain_proton | envisions a furry tank |
| 21:26:26 | BZFrank | captain: http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pgpkey.html |
| 21:26:43 | doughecka | BZFrank: is it up on the servers? |
| 21:27:03 | BZFrank | nope |
| 21:27:10 | doughecka | k |
| 21:28:50 | doughecka | could you sign it for me? |
| 21:28:52 | doughecka | :P |
| 21:28:53 | bzgirl | BZFrank: i downloaded it, thnx |
| 21:29:22 | BZFrank | bzgirl: ok, try it and tell me the results! |
| 21:29:28 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:29:45 | BZFrank | should be started wth 'p2501 -24bit' on Linux |
| 21:29:46 | captain_proton | will fix all of BZFrank's bugs with a hex editor! |
| 21:29:55 | BZFrank | *grins* |
| 21:30:04 | BZFrank | then prepare for some ;) |
| 21:30:36 | BZFrank | porting to Linux actually revealed two memory bugs that never surfaced on windows, now that is nice! |
| 21:30:56 | doughecka | hmm, cant wait for OS X's bugs (what bugs?) |
| 21:31:03 | m0nkey_b0y | i don't remember memory |
| 21:31:28 | sussudio | yeah... apple is real good at making OS'es that don't crash *cough*cough* |
| 21:31:36 | BZFrank | bugs in P2501... not in Linux ;) |
| 21:31:48 | doughecka | sussudio: yup |
| 21:31:57 | doughecka | sussudio: its the software |
| 21:32:08 | sussudio | doughecka: it was unsubtle sarcasm |
| 21:32:11 | doughecka | BZFrank: is CAPer compilable in windows? |
| 21:32:24 | doughecka | sussudio: he |
| 21:32:30 | BZFrank | CAPer? the old NeXTSTEP Appletalk suite I did years ago? |
| 21:32:37 | doughecka | BZFrank: yea |
| 21:32:38 | Widget | slaps captain_proton around with a hex editor. |
| 21:32:42 | BZFrank | don'T think so ;) |
| 21:32:49 | Widget | is back (gone 00:44:40) |
| 21:32:55 | captain_proton | slaps Widget with a mackerel |
| 21:33:08 | m0nkey_b0y | slap with tuna please |
| 21:33:17 | BZFrank | It needs NFS (mounting through local loopback) and other UNIX specific stuff |
| 21:33:21 | sussudio | slaps m0nkey_b0y around a bit with a wet towel |
| 21:33:22 | doughecka | slaps Widget and captain_proton with a large tuna fish from the deep sea |
| 21:33:35 | doughecka | BZFrank: ooh |
| 21:33:39 | BZFrank | watches the show :) |
| 21:33:47 | m0nkey_b0y | wet towel...hmmmmm |
| 21:33:53 | m0nkey_b0y | must be from france? |
| 21:33:55 | m0nkey_b0y | hehehehehe |
| 21:33:57 | captain_proton | haha |
| 21:34:11 | sussudio | dude. that's just offensive. do i smell that bad? |
| 21:34:24 | doughecka | slaps m0nkey_b0y with a large dead cat |
| 21:34:28 | sussudio | *sniff* *sniff* |
| 21:34:34 | m0nkey_b0y | hehe |
| 21:34:37 | m0nkey_b0y | gotta run |
| 21:34:42 | m0nkey_b0y | kisses and hugs!!!! |
| 21:34:42 | m0nkey_b0y | ew |
| 21:34:43 | m0nkey_b0y | ew |
| 21:34:43 | doughecka | *ssssnnnnnniiiiifffffff* |
| 21:34:43 | m0nkey_b0y | ew |
| 21:34:44 | bzgirl | bye mb |
| 21:34:55 | Widget | Bye m0nkey_b0y. |
| 21:35:00 | sussudio | that wasnt funny doughecka :-( my cat died 3 weeks ago |
| 21:35:07 | doughecka | sussudio: oh |
| 21:35:13 | Widget | is always too late. |
| 21:35:13 | strayer | |
| 21:35:17 | strayer | jep |
| 21:35:18 | strayer | :) |
| 21:35:22 | doughecka | supresses a laugh |
| 21:35:31 | doughecka | *cough* |
| 21:35:41 | Widget | Too late to get p2501 too. |
| 21:35:50 | doughecka | Widget: get it now |
| 21:35:51 | sussudio | my cat's ghost will haunt you now. |
| 21:35:57 | Widget | Does it run on a TNT2? |
| 21:36:01 | doughecka | sussudio: oooh, I am sooo scared |
| 21:36:03 | bzgirl | BZFrank: gzip -d and gunzip say unknown suffix --ignored |
| 21:36:05 | doughecka | Widget: yup |
| 21:36:11 | captain_proton | Widget: he already said it did |
| 21:36:22 | doughecka | CapN: !!!! |
| 21:36:23 | CapN | howdy |
| 21:36:23 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 21:36:25 | BZFrank | bzgirl_ use 'unzip' not gunzip! part of the info-zip archive |
| 21:36:29 | captain_proton | CapN is a confirmed loop |
| 21:36:33 | Widget | captain_proton: I've been away for the past 45 minutes. |
| 21:36:33 | BZFrank | hi capn |
| 21:36:39 | Widget | All the loops are confirmed. |
| 21:36:42 | captain_proton | Widget: scroll up |
| 21:36:48 | doughecka | al the loopholes are too |
| 21:36:59 | CapN | just go look at our logo , no big secret |
| 21:37:05 | bzgirl | BZFrank: thnx, everything good now :) |
| 21:37:06 | captain_proton | Widget: oh? musta been whilst i was on the other side of the world |
| 21:37:19 | CapN | chk it out captain |
| 21:37:23 | captain_proton | trots off to look at the loops' logo |
| 21:37:29 | CapN | :) |
| 21:37:48 | Widget | captain_proton: No need, you just tol dme. |
| 21:38:21 | Widget | We have the best logo. |
| 21:38:32 | doughecka | I have the best logo |
| 21:38:46 | captain_proton | meq has the best logo |
| 21:39:07 | doughecka | captain_proton: can you add flash to the logos? |
| 21:39:14 | captain_proton | for only meq's logo has a reference to red dwarf |
| 21:39:18 | captain_proton | doughecka: nope |
| 21:39:23 | captain_proton | flash = lame |
| 21:39:24 | doughecka | blah |
| 21:39:32 | doughecka | captain_proton why? |
| 21:39:39 | CapN | so what you think captain |
| 21:39:46 | BZFrank | later, need some hours sleep |
| 21:39:56 | doughecka | cya |
| 21:40:10 | captain_proton | CapN: aha! |
| 21:40:13 | captain_proton | 'night BZFrank |
| 21:40:13 | BZFrank | cu |
| 21:40:46 | Widget | http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/bzflag/teammole.jpg <-- so cute |
| 21:41:17 | Widget | http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/bzflag/mole.jpg <-- And this |
| 21:41:19 | doughecka | makes me want to shoot a mole with a 22 |
| 21:41:42 | Widget | "I cannot see red shots." |
| 21:41:42 | Widget | "Killed by lag." |
| 21:41:42 | Widget | "My radar is broken." |
| 21:41:42 | Widget | "My computer is too slow." |
| 21:42:27 | doughecka | Widget: get a new cimnputer |
| 21:42:39 | Widget | doughecka: See Chestal's description. |
| 21:42:48 | captain_proton | my radar was sabotaged |
| 21:42:54 | Widget | /alstats |
| 21:42:54 | Widget | /latgstat |
| 21:42:54 | Widget | /lgastast |
| 21:42:54 | Widget | /lagstats |
| 21:43:15 | captain_proton | hah |
| 21:43:25 | captain_proton | /playerlist |
| 21:43:40 | captain_proton | /ban 12.234.138.157 2 |
| 21:43:53 | Widget | /passwprd admin |
| 21:43:55 | doughecka | /shutdown |
| 21:43:57 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:43:59 | Widget | /psasword admin |
| 21:44:00 | doughecka | stopped ya |
| 21:44:05 | Widget | /apssword admin |
| 21:44:17 | doughecka | /apspsswrd admin |
| 21:44:43 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:44:43 | doughecka | ibot ducati? |
| 21:48:08 | Widget | http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/bzflag/ |
| 21:48:16 | Widget | When was this tournament, and how come Zig was eliminated? |
| 21:50:01 | Widget | Jeder sollte Englisch sprechen. |
| 21:50:09 | | chestal was last seen on #bzflag 3 hours, 55 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: can be used in Java or C# because the type syntax is less complicated there [Tue Aug 6 18:54:27 2002] |
| 21:50:09 | Widget | ibot: seen chestal |
| 21:50:41 | doughecka | slaps Widget with a large smoked chicken |
| 21:51:22 | Widget | Is lupinator's description from Monty Puthon? |
| 21:51:25 | Widget | Dennis Moore? |
| 21:52:00 | Widget | Stand and deliver! Drop that gun!, etc. |
| 21:52:16 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:53:19 | Widget | "I want you to hand over all the lupins you've got." |
| 21:55:29 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 21:55:29 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 21:55:42 | doughecka | bzbot is dead again |
| 21:55:54 | doughecka | your so called "server" crashed it |
| 21:56:21 | jzaun | he... cause sompin happened to my server... might of rebooted in last nights storm |
| 21:56:31 | doughecka | eh? |
| 21:56:33 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:57:02 | CapN | yeah i missed jzaun today |
| 21:58:00 | strayer | good night... |
| 22:00:06 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5157 |
| 22:00:06 | jzaun | ibot jzaun-rotate |
| 22:00:35 | jzaun | hmm... bzbot can't handle it when the server isn't up it looks like.... as my server is back up |
| 22:00:47 | captain_proton | Widget: hmm, that tournament was around nov 2001 i think |
| 22:01:26 | doughecka | hey jpablo! |
| 22:01:41 | Widget | has another verse of lupinator's song. |
| 22:01:43 | jpablo | hey doughecka. |
| 22:01:45 | Widget | In my description. |
| 22:01:49 | doughecka | hehe |
| 22:02:13 | captain_proton | yaaay |
| 22:02:20 | captain_proton | 5 minutes till i finish the p2501 download |
| 22:02:23 | Widget | Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore |
| 22:02:26 | Widget | Is not in this bit. |
| 22:02:36 | jpablo | cp: where's it ? |
| 22:02:38 | doughecka | chears on captain_proton! |
| 22:02:48 | doughecka | jpablo: tsk, he cant tell |
| 22:02:56 | captain_proton | jpablo: dunno if frank wants me to be broadcasting that - gotta email him about it |
| 22:03:05 | captain_proton | frank at wizards dot de |
| 22:03:18 | jpablo | oh. |
| 22:04:11 | jpablo | wonders why bzfrank don't release the code. |
| 22:04:26 | Widget | captain_proton: I don't think ibot records all email addresses and sells it to spammers. |
| 22:04:30 | doughecka | he not done yet |
| 22:04:54 | captain_proton | Widget: no, but logs are posted online |
| 22:05:05 | captain_proton | Widget: so spiders would find them and harvest them |
| 22:05:05 | Widget | Ah. |
| 22:05:25 | Widget | One would think the spiders would be clever enough to read frank at wizards dot de. |
| 22:05:34 | captain_proton | one would think |
| 22:06:00 | captain_proton | but i think its so easy to just use x@blah and get enough results that it isn't worth it |
| 22:07:12 | jpablo | spamerscangetthis@dumdedum.com |
| 22:07:27 | jpablo | well, i just made a spamer get some shit on his db :P |
| 22:10:18 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 22:10:23 | captain_proton | gets to recompile zlib now |
| 22:12:06 | Widget | I always wondered what lupinator meant until today. |
| 22:15:07 | captain_proton | oof |
| 22:27:32 | Widget | foo |
| 22:27:35 | Widget | ççççççç |
| 22:27:36 | Widget | çççççç |
| 22:27:37 | Widget | çççç |
| 22:27:37 | Widget | ç |
| 22:27:41 | Widget | ñññññ |
| 22:27:42 | doughecka | Æ |
| 22:27:45 | Widget | ñññññ |
| 22:27:46 | Widget | ñññññññ |
| 22:27:58 | Widget | ááá'aááááá'aáááá'aááá |
| 22:33:32 | sussudio | how do i get rid of an asshole in bzflag? |
| 22:35:47 | sussudio | fuck this stupid game |
| 22:37:32 | kuit | man |
| 22:37:35 | doughecka | howdy! |
| 22:37:40 | kuit | I got creamed |
| 22:37:44 | doughecka | what might your trouble be today! |
| 22:37:47 | kuit | -27 |
| 22:37:59 | kuit | how do I keep from getting killed? |
| 22:38:08 | doughecka | dont respawn |
| 22:38:23 | kuit | why does it seam that some bullets track me? |
| 22:38:40 | doughecka | kuit: your imagination |
| 22:38:44 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:38:45 | kuit | people shooting me while they are in the air and the bullet comming down and killing me |
| 22:38:50 | doughecka | ummm |
| 22:38:55 | doughecka | that should not happen |
| 22:38:56 | captain_proton | bullet coming down? |
| 22:38:59 | kuit | yeah |
| 22:39:00 | doughecka | down? |
| 22:39:01 | captain_proton | (GM perhaps?) |
| 22:39:03 | Widget | Is it guided missile? |
| 22:39:04 | kuit | down |
| 22:39:13 | kuit | is there a flag with that? |
| 22:39:17 | doughecka | yea |
| 22:39:19 | kuit | COOL |
| 22:39:24 | kuit | i need to find that |
| 22:39:28 | kuit | it was creepy |
| 22:39:42 | doughecka | well |
| 22:39:45 | doughecka | have fun |
| 22:39:48 | kuit | people with lasers blasting me into space |
| 22:39:52 | doughecka | and read the help page |
| 22:39:54 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:40:06 | doughecka | ibot tell kuit about bzflag |
| 22:40:41 | kuit | bzflag rocks |
| 22:41:22 | doughecka | yup |
| 22:41:27 | | bzflag is nothing but a tickle-brained assload of evil dung. |
| 22:41:27 | doughecka | ibot insult bzflag |
| 22:41:40 | kuit | whatever |
| 22:41:51 | kuit | its fun |
| 22:41:54 | kuit | free |
| 22:41:57 | kuit | open |
| 22:42:03 | doughecka | hehe |
| 22:43:24 | doughecka | hey patlabor221!! |
| 22:43:28 | patlabor221 | lo |
| 22:43:30 | doughecka | hows the classes today! |
| 22:43:36 | patlabor221 | uggggggg |
| 22:44:49 | doughecka | I see |
| 22:44:50 | captain_proton | patlabor221: regarding bza...source me |
| 22:45:10 | doughecka | waves his hand |
| 22:45:18 | patlabor221 | explaining coordinate system definitions via vectors is a pain |
| 22:45:24 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:45:29 | patlabor221 | well you see the thing about bza |
| 22:45:56 | patlabor221 | it's not exactly in one piece |
| 22:46:07 | doughecka | mmmm |
| 22:46:15 | jzaun | anyone with 1.8 want to tell me how many FPS they get on the "test" server? |
| 22:46:24 | captain_proton | explain |
| 22:46:24 | patlabor221 | what you want out of it? |
| 22:46:24 | doughecka | 5 FPS |
| 22:46:29 | captain_proton | jzaun: which? |
| 22:46:29 | patlabor221 | it's in 3 parts |
| 22:46:36 | patlabor221 | 1) the world test |
| 22:46:46 | patlabor221 | 2) the Hud/phisics test |
| 22:46:53 | jzaun | captain_proton: "test" is the name |
| 22:46:56 | Widget | I don't see any test servers. |
| 22:47:04 | Widget | jzaun: hostname and port? |
| 22:47:06 | patlabor221 | 3) the current app, that only has menus |
| 22:47:11 | jzaun | jzaun.static.telerama.com |
| 22:47:24 | Widget | 5155? |
| 22:47:26 | jzaun | yah |
| 22:48:07 | captain_proton | jzaun: hmm, anywheres from 50 to 170 depending on the direction i'm facing ;) |
| 22:48:50 | jzaun | captain_proton: Thats a big differance... |
| 22:48:53 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, how about all? ;) |
| 22:49:30 | Widget | About 40-50. |
| 22:49:32 | Widget | With a TNT2. |
| 22:49:48 | jzaun | Widget & captain_proton: is that adverage for you? |
| 22:49:51 | patlabor221 | what are you gonna do with it? |
| 22:49:58 | captain_proton | patlabor221: look at it |
| 22:50:06 | Widget | jzaun: On ducati, on good days I get about 50-60. |
| 22:50:31 | jzaun | ok... wonder what it will be when the world is done :-) |
| 23:00:30 | patlabor221 | caP: only if you port myTexture manager for me :) |
| 23:02:17 | captain_proton | patlabor221: deal |
| 23:03:11 | patlabor221 | I"ll get it all packed up |
| 23:03:19 | patlabor221 | the 2 tests arn't purdy code tho |
| 23:03:23 | patlabor221 | not in the least |
| 23:05:18 | patlabor221 | and the old stuff is heavaly windows based |
| 23:05:30 | patlabor221 | new stuff uses SLD |
| 23:05:34 | patlabor221 | gah SDL |
| 23:05:41 | patlabor221 | at least for the window |
| 23:06:00 | Widget | -10-11- dinah has changed the topic to: dinah has a working cd-rw and loves captain_proton!! :-) |
| 23:06:01 | captain_proton | yaaay for SDL |
| 23:06:21 | patlabor221 | I've got the setup lib working on linux |
| 23:06:41 | captain_proton | Widget: you know it |
| 23:07:28 | patlabor221 | I think it' time to go spend some money |
| 23:07:40 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:07:43 | captain_proton | who all is there? |
| 23:08:12 | captain_proton | time to spend money? |
| 23:08:17 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:08:21 | patlabor221 | movie store |
| 23:08:24 | patlabor221 | DVDs and all |
| 23:08:43 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 23:08:48 | captain_proton | you ever ship that drive? =} |
| 23:09:18 | patlabor221 | no |
| 23:09:25 | patlabor221 | never went in to test it this weekend |
| 23:09:31 | patlabor221 | was here at work all weekend |
| 23:09:38 | captain_proton | ahh, no problem |
| 23:09:39 | patlabor221 | 9 hours each day |
| 23:09:49 | patlabor221 | class prep and all |
| 23:10:03 | patlabor221 | well I'm off |
| 23:10:13 | patlabor221 | i'll get that code ziped when I get home |
| 23:10:19 | patlabor221 | see ya |
| 23:17:16 | kuit | what are the hints for being good in bzflag |
| 23:17:22 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:17:23 | captain_proton | practice |
| 23:17:31 | captain_proton | and learn to play with the mouse |
| 23:20:09 | kuit | i can |
| 23:20:31 | doughecka | Mmm |
| 23:20:37 | doughecka | learn how NOT to jump |
| 23:24:01 | kuit | why is that? |
| 23:24:36 | captain_proton | when you jump its easy to kill you on the way down |
| 23:24:42 | kuit | how else do you get out of the way of bullets? |
| 23:24:46 | captain_proton | dodge |
| 23:24:52 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:25:03 | jacques | only jump to get up somewhere or as a last resort |
| 23:25:20 | jacques | i still havent gotten out of the jumping habit |
| 23:25:46 | captain_proton | though jumping from deck to deck on the decks is good :) |
| 23:25:52 | kuit | no defense in bzflag |
| 23:26:02 | doughecka | play ducati until you learn |
| 23:26:25 | jacques | i need friends |
| 23:26:30 | jacques | so we can have a regular game |
| 23:26:31 | captain_proton | play decks :P |
| 23:26:40 | doughecka | no jump! |
| 23:26:42 | doughecka | jump bad! |
| 23:26:45 | doughecka | bad bad |
| 23:26:48 | jacques | because I am so tired of playing with the rablle |
| 23:26:54 | jacques | rablle |
| 23:26:56 | jacques | rabble |
| 23:27:14 | captain_proton | doughecka: lets see you play decks without jumping |
| 23:27:18 | jacques | last night some guy took my name and put a space at the end and started teamkilling |
| 23:27:25 | jacques | on my team |
| 23:27:52 | captain_proton | ooh i hate that |
| 23:28:14 | captain_proton | but i try to play only on servers that i have admin to, sooo.... |
| 23:28:20 | Widget | jacques: Put an email in your .bzflag. |
| 23:28:23 | jacques | captain_proton: yeah well I would too |
| 23:29:13 | jacques | Widget: what does tht do? |
| 23:29:53 | Widget | jacques: Puts it in parenteses after your name. |
| 23:30:03 | Widget | jacques: Usually, people won't go that far to try to steal your identity. |
| 23:30:09 | jacques | Widget: ah interesting I'll have to try that |
| 23:30:22 | jacques | tho I wont be anonymous anymore |
| 23:30:41 | captain_proton | Widget: but when people -do- go that far you get spammed with complaints |
| 23:30:49 | jacques | lol, last night I was a rogue and there were 9 reds |
| 23:31:03 | jacques | why do ppl have to gang u plike that |
| 23:31:16 | jacques | before tht there were 7 blue and no other teams |
| 23:31:28 | captain_proton | they don't like to lose |
| 23:31:33 | jacques | thn there were 4 green so I goined green and the guy started teamkilling |
| 23:31:39 | jacques | and all the blue left |
| 23:31:44 | jacques | sometimes I hate ppl |
| 23:32:00 | jacques | I think the teamkiller was an ex-blue |
| 23:32:30 | jacques | if they cant have overwhelming odds and GM, they dont want to play |
| 23:32:46 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:32:53 | jacques | :-\ |
| 23:33:34 | jacques | but the most fun was when I had the high score as a rogue and there were 9 reds and all but 1 were negative |
| 23:33:51 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:34:36 | kuit | ha |
| 23:34:49 | doughecka | we need a why to share admin passwords |
| 23:34:55 | jacques | i can feel myself getting addicted again - I played for like 5 hours straight last night without even noticing time pass |
| 23:34:55 | doughecka | why/way |
| 23:35:23 | kuit | you already are addicted |
| 23:35:35 | doughecka | more addicted |
| 23:35:46 | kuit | you gunna play 12 hours next time? |
| 23:35:48 | jacques | just when I thought I was out, e6 pulled me back in! |
| 23:36:07 | jacques | kuit: I think the longest I have played in one sitting is 9 hours |
| 23:36:10 | jacques | on decks |
| 23:36:19 | kuit | how long can you usually stay in the game without getting killed? |
| 23:36:36 | jacques | without getting killed? lol I'm not that good |
| 23:37:04 | jacques | depends on how many other players and how good they are, map, weps, sometimes I get killed within a second of spawning |
| 23:37:22 | jacques | I have never been one of those ppl who could go long without getting killed - I am too agreesive |
| 23:37:30 | kuit | i do that all the time |
| 23:37:38 | jacques | my # of kills is high but my # of deaths is also high |
| 23:37:50 | kuit | what is the ratio? |
| 23:37:53 | kuit | thats what counts |
| 23:38:10 | jacques | there was one guy GM camping last night that got u pto like 33-0 |
| 23:38:12 | kuit | mine is 1/12 |
| 23:38:19 | kuit | wow |
| 23:38:19 | jacques | wow that's amzing |
| 23:38:31 | kuit | 1 kill for every 12 deaths |
| 23:38:33 | kuit | :) |
| 23:38:37 | jacques | that was when he was on the blue team with 7 ppl |
| 23:38:42 | jacques | and 4 had GM |
| 23:38:54 | jacques | kuit: heh I thoght you meant the other way around :-) |
| 23:39:01 | kuit | I know |
| 23:39:08 | kuit | thats why I made it clear |
| 23:39:36 | jacques | :-) |
| 23:39:53 | jacques | anyone know what happened to jzaun's rotation server? |
| 23:40:00 | jacques | I could not find it last night |
| 23:41:07 | kuit | is there any way to shoot down at people from up top on a ridge? |
| 23:41:16 | captain_proton | find GM, or climb up |
| 23:41:16 | jacques | only with GM |
| 23:41:48 | kuit | ok |
| 23:41:57 | jacques | or, get a friend to join their team, get G, and kill him |
| 23:42:09 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:42:12 | captain_proton | decks seem to be down |
| 23:42:36 | jacques | captain_proton: jzaun's decks was up last night, but not the rotation server |
| 23:42:50 | captain_proton | goes to restart the decks |
| 23:43:42 | captain_proton | anybody up for a game on the decks? |
| 23:43:53 | jacques | would LOVE to, but am at work :-\ |
| 23:43:58 | jacques | and my boss is here |
| 23:43:58 | kuit | me too |
| 23:44:07 | jacques | we share an office |
| 23:44:18 | kuit | what do you do? |
| 23:44:43 | jacques | unix sysadmin |
| 23:44:48 | kuit | ok |
| 23:45:12 | kuit | are there any other multiplayer battle games for linux besides bzflag? |
| 23:45:37 | captain_proton | doesn't know =} |
| 23:45:42 | jacques | hmm I looked and did not really find anything, assuming you mean open source |
| 23:45:49 | kuit | yup |
| 23:46:01 | kuit | i dog fighting flight sim would be cool |
| 23:46:02 | jacques | I would not mind a combat flight sim, but did not find one |
| 23:46:06 | jacques | LOL |
| 23:46:14 | jacques | same second |
| 23:46:38 | captain_proton | supposedly armagetron can be played over a network |
| 23:46:40 | captain_proton | shrugs |
| 23:47:09 | jacques | ugh, I suck at tron games |
| 23:47:24 | captain_proton | if you care to cram 4 people together at a keyboard gltron is fun :) |
| 23:47:35 | | bzfrank was last seen on #bzflag 2 hours, 7 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: cu [Tue Aug 6 22:40:13 2002] |
| 23:47:35 | jacques | ibot: seen bzfrank |
| 23:47:41 | jacques | D'OH |
| 23:48:29 | kuit | what is ibot? |
| 23:48:32 | kuit | who is ibot? |
| 23:48:45 | | i am a bitch |
| 23:48:45 | jacques | ibot: what are you? |
| 23:49:02 | | Since Fri Aug 2 20:21:57 2002, there have been 77 modifications and 388 questions. I have been awake for 4 days, 4 hours, 27 minutes, 5 seconds this session, and currently reference 83952 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 23:49:02 | jacques | ibot: status |
| 23:49:19 | | i guess i am a bitch |
| 23:49:19 | kuit | ibot: what are you? |
| 23:49:25 | | well, i am a bitch |
| 23:49:25 | kuit | ibot: what are you? |
| 23:49:28 | | i am a bitch |
| 23:49:28 | kuit | ibot: what are you? |
| 23:49:36 | | sugar quote OKFA |
| 23:49:36 | kuit | ibot: shut up! |
| 23:49:43 | jacques | ibot is an infobot |
| 23:49:51 | | ...but ibot is a bitch... |
| 23:49:51 | jacques | ibot: you are an infobot |
| 23:49:55 | | kuit: i'm not following you... |
| 23:49:55 | kuit | ibot: whatever |
| 23:49:59 | | okay, jacques. |
| 23:49:59 | jacques | ibot: you are also an infobot |
| 23:50:13 | | jacques? |
| 23:50:13 | jacques | ibot? |
| 23:50:18 | | i am probably a bitch or an infobot |
| 23:50:18 | jacques | ibot: what are you? |
| 23:50:19 | | yes, kuit? |
| 23:50:19 | kuit | ibot? |
| 23:50:34 | | i haven't a clue, kuit |
| 23:50:34 | kuit | ibot: whats your favorite hobby? |
| 23:50:42 | jacques | (about 20 seconds til someone complains about ppl playing with ibot) |
| 23:50:50 | | favorite color is yellow |
| 23:50:50 | kuit | ibot: favorite color? |
| 23:51:01 | | i don't know, kuit |
| 23:51:01 | kuit | ibot: favorite game? |
| 23:51:02 | | jacques: what? |
| 23:51:02 | jacques | ibot: weathre ksjc |
| 23:51:11 | | jacques: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 23:51:11 | jacques | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 23:51:16 | | kuit: sorry... |
| 23:51:16 | kuit | ibot: you stink |
| 23:51:43 | kuit | wow |
| 23:51:45 | kuit | pretty cool |
| 23:51:52 | | kuit: excuse me? |
| 23:51:52 | kuit | ibot: tell me my future |
| 23:52:28 | | ...but no ibot is always clueless AND stupid... |
| 23:52:28 | doughecka | ibot no ibot is a infobot |
| 23:52:41 | doughecka | no, ibot, ibot is a infobot |
| 23:52:45 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:52:53 | | doughecka: I forgot ibot |
| 23:52:53 | doughecka | ibot forget ibot |
| 23:53:11 | | kuit, I didn't have anything matching 'doughecka' |
| 23:53:11 | kuit | ibot forget doughecka |
| 23:53:20 | | Did I do an INCORRECT THING?? |
| 23:53:20 | doughecka | ibot yow |
| 23:53:25 | | doughecka: filesystem not big enough for Jumbo Kernel Patch |
| 23:53:25 | doughecka | ibot excuse |
| 23:53:32 | kuit | doughecka: your important! :) |
| 23:53:39 | | it has been said that bzdoug is insignificant |
| 23:53:39 | doughecka | ibot bzdoug |
| 23:53:43 | doughecka | hrm |
| 23:53:55 | kuit | ha |
| 23:53:56 | | doughecka: I forgot bzdoug |
| 23:53:56 | doughecka | ibot forget bzdoug |
| 23:53:56 | | OK, doughecka. |
| 23:53:56 | doughecka | ibot bzdoug is the leader! |
| 23:53:58 | | kuit: excuse me? |
| 23:53:58 | kuit | ibot ha |
| 23:54:37 | | kuit: bugger all, i dunno |
| 23:54:37 | kuit | ibot: play bzflag? |
| 23:54:47 | | kuit: huh? |
| 23:54:47 | kuit | ibot: your worthless |
| 23:54:49 | | i guess bzflag is TimRiker, CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) and the maintainer of the 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming interruptions. |
| 23:54:49 | bzdoug | ibot bzflag? |
| 23:54:54 | | bzdoug: i haven't a clue |
| 23:54:54 | bzdoug | ibot Noodleman? |
| 23:55:01 | | no idea, kuit |
| 23:55:01 | kuit | ibot: worthless? |
| 23:55:05 | | kuit is nothing but an unmuzzled mound of festering cat bladders. |
| 23:55:05 | jacques | ibot: insult kuit |
| 23:55:17 | | OK, bzdoug. |
| 23:55:17 | bzdoug | ibot Noodleman is making your replacement |
| 23:55:20 | | jacgues is nothing but an hacked-up ass-full of puny cat-hair-balls. |
| 23:55:20 | kuit | ibot: insult jacgues |
| 23:55:24 | | jacques: The UPS doesn't have a battery backup. |
| 23:55:24 | jacques | ibot: excuse |
| 23:55:26 | kuit | ohh |
| 23:55:30 | | jacques: It's not RFC-822 compliant. |
| 23:55:30 | jacques | ibot: excuse |
| 23:55:38 | | eight ball is Yes |
| 23:55:38 | jacques | ibot: eight ball |
| 23:55:44 | | ACTION kills all the morons |
| 23:55:44 | bzdoug | ibot kill |
| 23:55:48 | | bzdoug: sorry... |
| 23:55:48 | bzdoug | ibot kill me |
| 23:55:49 | | bye bye |
| 23:55:49 | kuit | ibot: bye! |
| 23:55:56 | | kuit: excuse me? |
| 23:55:56 | kuit | ibot: see ya! |
| 23:56:12 | Noodleman | hey |
| 23:56:20 | bzdoug | hey Noodleman! |
| 23:56:36 | | Yay for smack ramen! |
| 23:56:36 | jacques | ibot: botsmack |
| 23:56:46 | bzdoug | Noodleman: can you get streaming audio? |
| 23:56:59 | Noodleman | yes, why? |
| 23:57:23 | bzdoug | try this: http://heck.no-ip.com:8000 |
| 23:57:32 | Noodleman | ok, icecast? |
| 23:57:34 | bzdoug | click das listen link |
| 23:57:38 | bzdoug | shoutcast |
| 23:57:40 | bzdoug | windows |
| 23:57:44 | Noodleman | i see |
| 23:57:55 | bzdoug | icecast is on windows? |
| 23:58:15 | Noodleman | i don't know |
| 23:58:19 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 23:58:28 | bzdoug | you listening? |
| 23:58:44 | Widget | Wait. |
| 23:58:48 | Noodleman | just a sec |
| 23:58:58 | bzdoug | Widget speaks! |
| 23:59:20 | Noodleman | got it |
| 23:59:24 | bzdoug | seeing what is my max out |
| 23:59:30 | bzdoug | good |
| 23:59:42 | Noodleman | constantly rebuffering |
| 23:59:46 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 23:59:49 | bzdoug | let me lower it |
