| 00:00:10 | paul__ | what browser are you using? |
| 00:00:41 | bryjen | paul__: seems to. Mozilla on linux w/ suns jdk 1.4.0 |
| 00:01:08 | bzdoug | IE works troo |
| 00:01:12 | bzdoug | too* |
| 00:01:15 | blackhound | btw, I didnt see the start call Widget, that is why I left at the beggining |
| 00:01:26 | blackhound | i was peeing myself |
| 00:01:33 | bzdoug | ? |
| 00:01:47 | blackhound | mozilla here too |
| 00:01:52 | bzdoug | IE 6 |
| 00:02:41 | blackhound | pretty cool the zooming effect on the applet |
| 00:04:00 | blackhound | bye guys, I am off |
| 00:04:07 | paul__ | bye - ta for testing. |
| 00:04:15 | paul__ | hmm... but why didnt mod_gzip gzip it... |
| 00:04:32 | paul__ | odd |
| 00:06:22 | paul__ | bryjen - can you do a shift+reload on that url? |
| 00:06:29 | bryjen | ok |
| 00:06:37 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:06:38 | bzdoug | cool |
| 00:07:59 | bryjen | reloaded any played with the date range a bit |
| 00:08:11 | paul__ | weird.. very weird. you havnt actually downloaded that applet. |
| 00:08:18 | bzdoug | I have |
| 00:08:19 | bryjen | ??? |
| 00:08:21 | paul__ | least not from your ip. |
| 00:08:29 | bzdoug | my ip? |
| 00:08:34 | bryjen | at all? that possible? |
| 00:08:43 | bzdoug | my ip is 208.147.39.133 |
| 00:09:30 | paul__ | you havnt |
| 00:09:36 | paul__ | neither has doug... |
| 00:09:38 | paul__ | odd |
| 00:10:25 | paul__ | ahhhh... |
| 00:10:27 | paul__ | no wonder. |
| 00:10:35 | paul__ | never mind. the applet is somewhere else. :) |
| 00:11:40 | paul__ | try: |
| 00:11:41 | paul__ | http://www.alphyra.com/java/ticker.class |
| 00:12:03 | bryjen | need html page |
| 00:12:13 | paul__ | i just want you to download it :) |
| 00:12:37 | bzdoug | downloaded |
| 00:12:38 | paul__ | i'm trying to figure out why mod_gzip says RESPONSE_CONTENT_TYPE_EXCLUDED for class files |
| 00:12:55 | bryjen | ok |
| 00:13:18 | bryjen | downloaded ok |
| 00:13:45 | Firewolf | god damnit, i think because i put my e-mail on my bzflag description, someone won't stop sending virus's |
| 00:14:16 | bryjen | email harvested by a web bot perhaps |
| 00:14:50 | bryjen | or somebody who looked at your info has a virus on their PC harvesting email addrs |
| 00:15:22 | bryjen | looked at the headers on the infected messages? |
| 00:16:08 | bzdoug | is that appet work for nasdaq? |
| 00:16:28 | bzdoug | is/will |
| 00:17:41 | Firewolf | this one says "meeting registration" from: hacker crash override<hacker crash override@hotmail.com> |
| 00:18:00 | Firewolf | they come like every day |
| 00:18:02 | bzdoug | its fake |
| 00:19:38 | Firewolf | norton just quaranteens them everytime but i don't wanna get caught without it running |
| 00:20:19 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 00:21:02 | Firewolf | can i just block that e-mail address? |
| 00:22:37 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 00:22:40 | bzdoug | nope |
| 00:22:47 | bzdoug | unless you have your own server... |
| 00:22:51 | bzdoug | mail server |
| 00:23:43 | Firewolf | i sent the sender a message to stop sending em, well anyways guys i gotta go |
| 00:24:02 | Widget | Bye, Firewolf. |
| 00:24:05 | bzdoug | cya |
| 00:24:16 | bryjen | you should still be able to look at the headers. the address you see on the "normal" from-to-subject is probly junk. I'm looking for the Recieved: from x by y |
| 00:24:29 | bryjen | where the mailserver were relaying it |
| 00:24:59 | Firewolf | what bryjen? |
| 00:25:15 | Firewolf | his or mine? |
| 00:25:54 | bryjen | there should be a section of headers at the top (normally hidden by the email prog) that has a few lines like "Recieved: from hismailserver by youmailserver" |
| 00:27:16 | Firewolf | i wrote his up a little |
| 00:27:19 | Firewolf | scroll up |
| 00:27:55 | bryjen | each server that handles the message add another line onto the top. |
| 00:29:17 | bryjen | nevermind. just let norton's keep canning them. and maybe remove your addr from that web page..... |
| 00:29:22 | Firewolf | your making me feel stupid here all i am seeing is who sent it, and my address |
| 00:29:39 | bryjen | what email program ? |
| 00:29:58 | Firewolf | shit i just had to change headers |
| 00:30:09 | bryjen | find 'em? |
| 00:30:43 | Widget | jbobacru vecu'u lo skami fonxa |
| 00:31:02 | bryjen | Uh, sure Widget, whatever you say :) |
| 00:31:06 | Firewolf | jesus this thing going everywhere |
| 00:32:08 | Firewolf | whats under return path or under recieved? |
| 00:32:35 | bryjen | ?? |
| 00:32:41 | Firewolf | using netscape |
| 00:33:11 | bryjen | version? |
| 00:33:35 | Firewolf | return path is: <rickdaniels@ecybermind.net> |
| 00:34:09 | Firewolf | 4.79 all updated ones were just glossier |
| 00:34:10 | bryjen | that may be more likely. what's the last "Recieved: from" |
| 00:35:19 | Firewolf | there are four addresses that seem to lead to mine, four different senders all going to my address |
| 00:36:33 | Firewolf | bright06.icomcast.net is one |
| 00:37:14 | Firewolf | nevermind i see now |
| 00:37:28 | Firewolf | it just goes through those four before it gets to me |
| 00:38:05 | bryjen | bottom up. each new server adds a line on to the top. the top Recieved: should be the last server, yours |
| 00:38:47 | Firewolf | yah it goes through four servers to get to me |
| 00:39:21 | bryjen | is the bottom one something.cybermind.net |
| 00:39:36 | Firewolf | yah |
| 00:39:49 | bryjen | sound like thats where it started then |
| 00:39:54 | Firewolf | ginsberg.ecybermind.bet |
| 00:40:07 | bryjen | you might try that return-path address |
| 00:40:15 | bryjen | since it seems to match up |
| 00:41:59 | Firewolf | well thank you but i do have to go |
| 00:45:13 | bryjen | I'm gone too |
| 00:52:53 | Widget | Someone needs to design an intelligent ducati bot. |
| 00:56:03 | paul__ | ok.. night. |
| 01:08:07 | Widget | ski: ! |
| 01:08:09 | Widget | ski: Congrats. |
| 01:08:16 | Widget | ski: Glückewüsche. |
| 01:16:02 | captain_proton | how goes MrApathyCream, Patlabor221 |
| 01:16:18 | Patlabor221 | well I can't say for the cream man, but I'm ok |
| 01:16:44 | Patlabor221 | I have tried to port the converter to no avail |
| 01:18:02 | captain_proton | i need to re-look-up all the #pragma pack stuff |
| 01:18:23 | Patlabor221 | for? |
| 01:22:00 | captain_proton | porting it :) |
| 01:22:12 | Patlabor221 | it shouldn't need the pack stuff |
| 01:22:45 | Patlabor221 | I got it sorta ported |
| 01:23:10 | Patlabor221 | it will only output things that are paramters in fprinf, nothing that's a literal |
| 01:23:14 | Patlabor221 | it's realy realy odd |
| 01:25:26 | Patlabor221 | the only thing it reads binary is the BMF format, and that's my own, so don't worrry anbout the byte packing. |
| 01:25:42 | Widget | I wish we had a more intelligent ducati bot. |
| 01:25:43 | captain_proton | ok :) |
| 01:26:02 | Patlabor221 | then make one widget :) |
| 01:26:44 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: the only things I saw in the code that needed to be changed for linux were some includes and a #define stricmp strcasecmp |
| 01:27:03 | Patlabor221 | cus you guys don't have stricmp damit !!! :) |
| 01:27:24 | captain_proton | you guys don't have strcasecmp! everyone else uses our syntax |
| 01:27:45 | Patlabor221 | mine is shorter |
| 01:27:53 | captain_proton | ours is more clear |
| 01:27:59 | Patlabor221 | and it's "MINE" so it's better :) |
| 01:28:13 | Patlabor221 | I will be redoing the entire class anyway |
| 01:28:24 | Patlabor221 | to fully suport all the stuff in a BZG and animations |
| 01:28:36 | Patlabor221 | OBJ does support fans and strips |
| 01:28:43 | Widget | Patlabor221: I don't know how to, nor how to learn how to. |
| 01:28:44 | Patlabor221 | so might as well bring those over |
| 01:29:04 | captain_proton | perhaps converting from bzg to something too |
| 01:29:10 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:29:29 | Patlabor221 | I can also add import of MD3 and UT |
| 01:29:40 | Patlabor221 | as they support animations like you use them |
| 01:29:46 | Patlabor221 | at least vertex animations |
| 01:30:05 | Patlabor221 | and there are a number of packages on the PC that will export them |
| 01:30:15 | Patlabor221 | GMax in particular |
| 01:33:44 | Patlabor221 | hmmm, I think I open the output file in binary that may be the problem |
| 01:35:11 | Patlabor221 | hey cap: the wikki page title looks like crap, what happend? |
| 01:35:38 | captain_proton | the yellow? i think it was that bastage MrApathyCream |
| 01:36:11 | captain_proton | err - title? |
| 01:36:21 | captain_proton | where what when? |
| 01:36:33 | M_A_C | hehe, couldn't read the dark on dark |
| 01:36:56 | captain_proton | M_A_C: you weren't -supposed- to read it |
| 01:37:05 | captain_proton | its rejected |
| 01:38:02 | Patlabor221 | no the blue title |
| 01:38:10 | Patlabor221 | it's like it's overlaped itself |
| 01:38:56 | MrApathyCream | i do like being a bastage tho |
| 01:39:12 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: hmm, strange - i didn't change anything - try reloading |
| 01:39:30 | Patlabor221 | ther it goes |
| 01:39:37 | Patlabor221 | musta been a glitch |
| 01:39:52 | Patlabor221 | did someone have a sample bot project? |
| 01:57:02 | ski | see widget |
| 01:57:08 | ski | there? |
| 01:57:12 | Widget | ski: Hi. |
| 01:57:15 | ski | hey |
| 01:57:20 | ski | sorry was playin |
| 01:57:27 | Widget | <ski> see widget |
| 01:57:33 | Widget | See Widget run. |
| 01:57:38 | Widget | Run, Widget, run! |
| 01:57:40 | ski | hehe |
| 01:57:46 | bzdoug | haha |
| 01:57:49 | ski | we won tonight |
| 01:57:55 | bzdoug | ever see spot run? |
| 01:58:06 | Widget | ski: I know. |
| 01:58:08 | ski | i didnt get a chance to attend though :( |
| 01:58:12 | Widget | ski: I reffed the game. |
| 01:58:19 | ski | cool, thx |
| 01:59:40 | ski | well, im goin to bed |
| 01:59:44 | Widget | Goodnight, ski. |
| 01:59:48 | bzdoug | me too |
| 01:59:50 | ski | cya later :) |
| 01:59:57 | bzdoug | cya |
| 02:00:01 | ski | cya |
| 02:05:38 | Widget | BRB. |
| 02:12:21 | jpablo | i'm off people i have to take a plane tomorrow early. |
| 02:14:33 | bzdoug | BZFlag!!! |
| 02:14:47 | BZFlag | hey |
| 02:21:05 | bzdoug | I hate transfering web domains... |
| 02:23:04 | BZFlag | bzdoug: to where? godaddy rocks. ;-) |
| 02:23:13 | bzdoug | yup |
| 02:23:25 | bzdoug | but I mean transfering a domain to a new ISP |
| 02:23:28 | bzdoug | :( |
| 02:23:36 | bzdoug | domain servers.. |
| 02:23:36 | bzdoug | etc |
| 02:23:45 | bzdoug | and finding the passwords!!!! |
| 02:25:19 | captain_proton | BZFlag! still not on vacation? |
| 02:26:30 | Nicole3 | 'lo |
| 02:27:10 | BZFlag | captain_proton: nope. the india trip got postponed, and it's not vacation anyway, it's work. though next week I will be on vacation in ny. |
| 02:27:44 | captain_proton | don't you dare tell me that a trip to india isn't at least a little bit vacation |
| 02:29:09 | BZFlag | captain_proton: that depends in whether I get sick or not. ;-) |
| 02:30:17 | Widget | BZFlag: I suppose you've had to get lots of shots. |
| 02:31:39 | captain_proton | i'm so happy |
| 02:31:50 | captain_proton | i finally found someone talented enough with hardware to do some really cool projects |
| 02:33:38 | captain_proton | plus i get to do kernel hacking because of it :) |
| 02:33:48 | captain_proton | Jul 28 15:50:10 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver coffee |
| 02:33:48 | captain_proton | Jul 28 15:50:10 localhost kernel: coffee.c: USB Coffee Pot Driver v0.1 |
| 02:34:13 | bzdoug | oh no! now a linux coffee pot!!! |
| 02:34:25 | Widget | Does anyone know what this means? |
| 02:34:26 | Widget | > // todo: - nicht aus Versehen auf Teammates schiessen |
| 02:34:26 | Widget | > // - beim Ausweichen nich tnur einen Schuss betrahcten |
| 02:34:27 | Widget | > // - Effizienz steigern, im Moment n-mal pro Sekunde kompletter Kram |
| 02:34:27 | Widget | > // - Chat-Bot :-) |
| 02:34:31 | bzdoug | put a web server on it and post it on slashdot... |
| 02:34:35 | captain_proton | no, the coffee pot is purely hardware |
| 02:34:38 | Widget | It's in the Chestal ducati bot source. |
| 02:34:42 | captain_proton | all the software parts are handled on the USB host |
| 02:34:46 | bzdoug | oh |
| 02:34:52 | bzdoug | on linux... |
| 02:34:59 | Widget | ibot: x de en nicht aus Versehen auf Teammates schiessen |
| 02:34:59 | bzdoug | Widget: stick it in google |
| 02:35:04 | | Widget: at Teammates do not shoot by mistake |
| 02:35:12 | bzdoug | or do that |
| 02:35:12 | Widget | ibot: x de en beim Ausweichen nich tnur einen Schuss betrahcten |
| 02:35:15 | | Widget: betrahcten when avoiding nich tnur a shot |
| 02:35:29 | captain_proton | but chances are once the pot is done we'll get on /. |
| 02:35:31 | Widget | ibot: x de en Effizienz steigern, im Moment n-mal pro Sekunde kompletter Kram |
| 02:35:34 | | Widget: Efficiency increase, for the moment n times per second complete stuff |
| 02:36:13 | captain_proton | just because of all the ooober features we're packing into it |
| 02:36:24 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 02:36:32 | captain_proton | wait BZFlag - when do you leave for ny? |
| 02:37:59 | Widget | What's this? A Linux coffee pot? |
| 02:38:20 | bzdoug | USB |
| 02:40:17 | Izto | No one on ducati.. |
| 02:40:28 | bzdoug | cyal8r |
| 02:40:55 | Widget | Izto: In a moment, we might have a bot to play with! |
| 02:41:01 | Izto | I wonder why is it all alone at night (American continent's night, I mean) |
| 02:42:05 | Izto | Is someone building one right now? :-) I'll be happy to test-explode it! |
| 02:42:14 | Widget | Izto: Chestal's bot. |
| 02:42:17 | Widget | Izto: It's not very bad. |
| 02:42:28 | Izto | Put it online! :) |
| 02:42:31 | Widget | It'll be connecting presently. |
| 02:42:38 | Widget | Patlabor221 has gotten it to work. |
| 02:43:00 | Widget | OK, let's go check. |
| 02:43:42 | Izto | server/port? |
| 02:44:02 | Widget | Hm.. it isn't there. |
| 02:44:09 | Widget | Wait. |
| 02:44:12 | Widget | Till it's up. |
| 02:44:25 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 02:44:26 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 02:44:30 | Patlabor221 | awwwww |
| 02:45:04 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 02:45:05 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 02:45:13 | BZFlag | captain_proton: friday morning I'm headed to Rochester for a week. |
| 02:45:37 | Patlabor221 | I did -mute -team red -callsign Voltron ducati.bzflag.org:5156 as the command line |
| 02:45:40 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ooh, i smell a web site |
| 02:46:02 | Widget | Patlabor221: Add -port 5156 |
| 02:46:07 | Widget | Patlabor221: Before the servername. |
| 02:46:27 | Patlabor221 | ok he's in |
| 02:46:29 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 02:46:30 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 02:46:32 | Widget | Fooey. |
| 02:46:33 | Patlabor221 | or not |
| 02:46:34 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 02:46:35 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 02:46:36 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 02:46:36 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 02:46:52 | Patlabor221 | I can't tell if it works from this end |
| 02:46:53 | Widget | What could be the problem? |
| 02:46:57 | Patlabor221 | does the server need UDP? |
| 02:47:01 | Widget | Yes. |
| 02:47:05 | Widget | It does. |
| 02:47:11 | Patlabor221 | perhaps I'm not using that |
| 02:47:19 | Patlabor221 | it is based on e2 |
| 02:47:30 | Widget | Hm.... is it possible to set up a server somewhere? |
| 02:47:32 | Widget | Without UDP? |
| 02:47:46 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure it is |
| 02:47:55 | Widget | No, is it feasable. |
| 02:48:05 | Widget | Can anyone set up such a server. |
| 02:48:18 | Izto | mmhh.. looks like we won't get a test drive of the bot today |
| 02:48:24 | Widget | Aw.... |
| 02:48:37 | Patlabor221 | where did 1.7e2 put it's config file on windows? |
| 02:48:52 | Widget | In My Documents? |
| 02:48:57 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 02:48:57 | Izto | Start->Find->Files =) |
| 02:50:42 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bzbot-e2.zip in 7 min |
| 02:50:49 | Patlabor221 | I will try it wiht e4 too |
| 02:51:05 | Widget | 500 Server Error |
| 02:51:19 | Patlabor221 | did you wait 7 min like I said |
| 02:51:28 | Patlabor221 | or 4 min from now |
| 02:51:36 | Widget | Oh. |
| 02:51:39 | Patlabor221 | cus it's not done |
| 02:51:43 | Widget | I thought you meant "for 7 minutes". |
| 02:51:48 | Patlabor221 | no no |
| 02:51:51 | Patlabor221 | for ever |
| 02:51:58 | Patlabor221 | I don't do that "remove it now" crap |
| 02:52:07 | Widget | It's not my webspace! |
| 02:52:07 | Patlabor221 | i gots my own 500 megs on the net :) |
| 02:53:14 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: are you the elf on my aim buddy list? |
| 02:53:31 | Patlabor221 | if he needs food badly that would be me |
| 02:53:55 | captain_proton | ok |
| 02:54:00 | captain_proton | good, i know everyone on the list |
| 02:54:14 | Patlabor221 | why wouldn't you? |
| 02:54:21 | Widget | captain_proton: Make aliases. |
| 02:54:52 | Patlabor221 | ok it's done uploading |
| 02:58:49 | Widget | cc1plus: warning: -fnonnull-objects is no longer supported |
| 02:58:53 | Widget | Nonfatal. |
| 02:58:54 | Widget | Hehe. |
| 02:58:57 | Widget | This is old...... |
| 02:59:00 | Patlabor221 | what does that mean |
| 03:00:06 | Patlabor221 | check ducati now |
| 03:00:15 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 03:00:16 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 03:00:18 | Widget | :) |
| 03:00:31 | Patlabor221 | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org |
| 03:00:37 | Widget | What port? |
| 03:00:40 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 03:00:41 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 03:00:46 | Patlabor221 | bahhhh |
| 03:01:37 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 03:01:49 | Patlabor221 | it works with 1.7e4 too if you make simlar changes |
| 03:02:08 | Widget | Let me try running the e2 version now. |
| 03:03:14 | Widget | Wait, do I still need to replace the files in the 1.7e2 version you have? |
| 03:03:19 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 03:03:24 | Patlabor221 | it's all predone |
| 03:03:27 | Widget | It seems to load normally.... |
| 03:03:32 | Widget | Not like a bot.... |
| 03:03:57 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you are not runing the correct executable |
| 03:04:13 | Patlabor221 | the only dif I saw was a completely black screen |
| 03:04:47 | Widget | And it returns the version 1.7e4. |
| 03:04:55 | Widget | I'm running the version I unzipped from you... |
| 03:05:07 | Patlabor221 | you built it tho right? |
| 03:05:12 | Widget | Yes. |
| 03:05:18 | Patlabor221 | I dono then |
| 03:05:23 | Widget | And in the config file, it says VERSIONID = 1.7e2 |
| 03:05:41 | Patlabor221 | I am thinking you are not running the correct thing |
| 03:07:21 | Widget | I'm running bin/bzflag from the root directory. |
| 03:08:07 | Patlabor221 | I dono how path things work in linux, but it realy sounds like your not runnign the right thing |
| 03:08:30 | Widget | Check the zip file. |
| 03:08:34 | Patlabor221 | if you had windows, you'd know cus you'd be clicking on it |
| 03:08:52 | Widget | Let me attempt to open it in KDE. |
| 03:09:20 | Patlabor221 | did the zip I sent have a file called "shortcut to bzflag" in the folder? |
| 03:10:00 | Widget | Shortcut to bzflag.exe.lnk |
| 03:10:10 | Patlabor221 | then that's the folder I ran |
| 03:10:20 | Patlabor221 | just wanted to make sure I zipped the right thing |
| 03:13:23 | Widget | Ah..... |
| 03:13:28 | Widget | It didn't manage to compile BZFlag. |
| 03:13:30 | Widget | /usr/bin/g++ -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE -DHALF_RATE_AUDIO -DXF86VIDMODE_EXT -DXIJOYSTICK -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -m486 -DVERSION=10705002 -DROBOT -DINSTALL_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/bzflag/data\" -I../../include -DNDEBUG -O2 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -fnonnull-objects -fexpensive-optimizations -c resources.cxx |
| 03:13:30 | Widget | `-m486' is deprecated. Use `-march=i486' or `-mcpu=i486' instead. |
| 03:13:31 | Widget | cc1plus: warning: -fnonnull-objects is no longer supported |
| 03:13:31 | Widget | In file included from ../../include/bzfio.h:26, |
| 03:13:32 | Widget | from resources.cxx:18: |
| 03:13:34 | Widget | /usr/include/g++-v3/backward/iostream.h:35: using directive `ostream' |
| 03:13:36 | Widget | introduced ambiguous type `ostream' |
| 03:13:40 | Widget | /usr/include/g++-v3/backward/iostream.h:36: using directive `istream' |
| 03:13:42 | Widget | introduced ambiguous type `istream' |
| 03:13:44 | Widget | resources.h: In function `std::ostream& operator<<(std::ostream&, const |
| 03:13:46 | Widget | ResourceDatabase&)': |
| 03:13:48 | Widget | resources.h:51: `BzfStringAList ResourceDatabase::names' is private |
| 03:13:50 | Widget | resources.cxx:125: within this context |
| 03:13:52 | Widget | resources.h:51: `BzfStringAList ResourceDatabase::names' is private |
| 03:13:55 | Widget | resources.cxx:127: within this context |
| 03:13:57 | Widget | resources.h:51: `BzfStringAList ResourceDatabase::names' is private |
| 03:13:58 | Patlabor221 | are you using a C++ compiler? |
| 03:13:59 | Widget | resources.cxx:128: within this context |
| 03:14:01 | Widget | resources.h:52: `BzfStringAList ResourceDatabase::values' is private |
| 03:14:02 | Widget | resources.cxx:130: within this context |
| 03:14:04 | Widget | make[3]: *** [resources.o] Error 1 |
| 03:14:06 | Widget | Eep. Sorry. |
| 03:14:07 | Patlabor221 | ok STOP |
| 03:14:11 | Widget | Yeah, g++. |
| 03:14:15 | Patlabor221 | for the love of god |
| 03:14:18 | Widget | STOP what? |
| 03:14:20 | Patlabor221 | should work then |
| 03:14:23 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 03:14:56 | Widget | Oh, well. |
| 03:15:01 | Widget | We can ask Chestal tomorrow. |
| 03:15:08 | Patlabor221 | that is true |
| 03:15:45 | Patlabor221 | it'll be nice when the client dosn't do any real game code |
| 03:16:14 | Patlabor221 | then it should be easy to just break out the net and world database stuff |
| 03:16:21 | Patlabor221 | and let that fly |
| 03:16:24 | Patlabor221 | as a bot |
| 03:17:20 | Widget | Hm... I wonder what I'm doing wrong. |
| 03:17:34 | Patlabor221 | did you taunt it"? |
| 03:18:56 | Widget | Hm... that sometimes works. |
| 03:19:04 | Patlabor221 | sometimes |
| 03:19:08 | Patlabor221 | but sometimes it angers it |
| 03:19:28 | Patlabor221 | and angry code is not good code |
| 03:19:37 | Patlabor221 | then you have to get a sword |
| 03:21:18 | Widget | Þingvellir |
| 03:21:32 | Patlabor221 | a what? |
| 03:23:23 | Patlabor221 | welcome back to the party |
| 03:23:49 | captain_proton | thankees |
| 03:27:39 | Patlabor221 | wow now that's good cell shading |
| 03:27:43 | Patlabor221 | http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1553094&object_id=12066&channel_id=59&page_title=Dragon%27s+Lair+3D+Hands-On&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%26channel%3Dpc%26site%3Dpc_hub%26channel%3Dpreviews%26type%3Dpartner |
| 03:28:23 | captain_proton | error 500 |
| 03:28:36 | Patlabor221 | realy |
| 03:28:43 | Patlabor221 | that sucks |
| 03:29:29 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/dirkassfire.com |
| 03:29:32 | Patlabor221 | gahhh |
| 03:29:35 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/dirkassfire.jpg |
| 03:32:51 | captain_proton | thats opengl? |
| 03:33:24 | Patlabor221 | so they say |
| 03:33:29 | Widget | <VEK> <K Ilona> Joel, ni estas samagxuloj, ecx ankaux similprofesiaj. Ankaux mi estas instruistino. |
| 03:33:29 | Widget | <VEK> <K Bernardo> Changlu , mi vivas en la germana urbo Erlangen kaj pli pri mi vi povas legi en mia hejmpagxo, kiu vi trovas en la reto sub: http://www.fen-net.de/~ea1448 |
| 03:33:29 | Widget | <VEK> <K Joel> Ne, Melville, mia ekrano ne aperigis vin. Nur nune. |
| 03:33:34 | Patlabor221 | nice huh |
| 03:33:53 | Widget | That can't be OpenGL... |
| 03:34:02 | Patlabor221 | its a pc game |
| 03:34:03 | Widget | Open GL is ugly and polygony. |
| 03:34:09 | Patlabor221 | so ether that or dx |
| 03:34:20 | Patlabor221 | only if you make it look ugly and polyugony |
| 03:34:31 | Patlabor221 | it's just an API |
| 03:34:47 | Patlabor221 | this is just fun with shaders |
| 03:35:02 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thats soo cool |
| 03:35:15 | Patlabor221 | very |
| 03:35:22 | Patlabor221 | best implementaion I've seen of it |
| 03:35:41 | Patlabor221 | they didn't cheap out on the outliner ether |
| 03:35:51 | Patlabor221 | I've used the cheap way |
| 03:35:56 | Patlabor221 | it's not to bad |
| 03:36:31 | Patlabor221 | http://www.dragonstone.com/ is who is making it |
| 03:37:05 | Patlabor221 | http://www.dragonstone.com/Images/ScreenShots/1024/Dirk_Castle1024x768.jpg |
| 03:37:19 | Patlabor221 | this one is realy good |
| 03:37:20 | Patlabor221 | http://www.dragonstone.com/Images/ScreenShots/1024/Dirk_Catapult1024x768.jpg |
| 03:41:43 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 03:44:35 | captain_proton | is impressed |
| 03:45:40 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:46:14 | Patlabor221 | you can do simple outlines by making a copy of your model, offset by you line thickness |
| 03:46:21 | Patlabor221 | then reverse the face order |
| 03:46:25 | Patlabor221 | and shade it baclk |
| 03:46:28 | Patlabor221 | black |
| 03:46:32 | Patlabor221 | and draw it first |
| 03:46:48 | captain_proton | thats cheap |
| 03:46:53 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 03:47:14 | Patlabor221 | but in a lot of cases it works ok |
| 03:47:28 | Patlabor221 | doubles the poly counnt tho |
| 03:49:30 | Patlabor221 | http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/info/quake3/honey/honey.shtml |
| 03:49:39 | Patlabor221 | that's an example of that type |
| 03:49:44 | captain_proton | how do you do it for real? |
| 03:49:55 | Patlabor221 | AAed that wouldn't be too bad |
| 03:50:34 | captain_proton | its awful |
| 03:50:45 | Patlabor221 | it's also over a year old |
| 03:50:54 | Patlabor221 | and done in an engine that wasn't suposed to suport it |
| 03:51:01 | Patlabor221 | that's whats impresive about it |
| 03:52:08 | Patlabor221 | there are better ways to do it of course |
| 03:54:33 | captain_proton | explain |
| 03:57:50 | Patlabor221 | what the better ways? |
| 03:57:57 | Patlabor221 | they all involve edge detection |
| 03:58:13 | Patlabor221 | there are a good set of articels in the GameDev mags |
| 03:59:18 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 03:59:20 | Patlabor221 | gamasutra has them I think |
| 04:01:32 | Patlabor221 | http://www.cs.utah.edu/npr/papers/Claes_IVCNZ2001.pdf |
| 04:01:48 | Patlabor221 | I think that's what most of them are based on |
| 04:04:26 | captain_proton | ooh, thats cool |
| 04:04:32 | captain_proton | i wanna make a cel shaded bzflag now |
| 04:05:48 | jawn | how much resources does running a bzflag server take? |
| 04:06:21 | captain_proton | right now? not too much in terms of processor - a 486 could take it easy |
| 04:06:26 | captain_proton | network connection is far more important |
| 04:07:10 | jawn | i see, thanks... i might run one then |
| 04:09:41 | BZFlag | runs on a mips cobalt qube2 that also runs mail, web, etc service. The server load is not the issue, the network latency is. |
| 04:10:29 | jawn | well, if i do run one, it will be run on a fractional T3; bandwidth and latency shouldn't be a problem |
| 04:11:35 | BZFlag | captain_proton: cel shaded? |
| 04:12:06 | Widget | http://www.dragonstone.com/Images/ScreenShots/1024/Dirk_Castle1024x768.jpg http://www.dragonstone.com/Images/ScreenShots/1024/Dirk_Catapult1024x768.jpg |
| 04:12:33 | jawn | what game is that? |
| 04:12:40 | jawn | i like |
| 04:13:37 | Patlabor221 | that is dragons lair3d |
| 04:14:00 | jawn | it looks like monkey island |
| 04:14:00 | Patlabor221 | there are some neat non photo redering techniques out there |
| 04:14:04 | Patlabor221 | well it's not |
| 04:14:26 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: have you ever seen "blueprint quake"? |
| 04:14:54 | BZFlag | wild. I still want a stereo goggle bzflag. |
| 04:15:09 | Patlabor221 | that wouldn't be too hard |
| 04:15:14 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i saw the screenshots, never played it |
| 04:15:24 | Patlabor221 | ohh it's toatly funny |
| 04:15:33 | Patlabor221 | the sketch one is great |
| 04:15:47 | Patlabor221 | it's like playing inside a bill plympton short |
| 04:15:49 | captain_proton | BZFlag: so, you never commented on my statement |
| 04:16:19 | BZFlag | http://home.iprimus.com.au/crbean/ |
| 04:16:41 | BZFlag | the new web site one? hmm. |
| 04:16:50 | jawn | Fisheye quake is nice... |
| 04:17:13 | BZFlag | I asked SF to upgrade python on the web farm and they said. "later". =( |
| 04:18:16 | BZFlag | I'll be fairly swamped this week, but perhaps. update /new first and let's play with it there, k? |
| 04:18:21 | jawn | Is quake free now? |
| 04:18:57 | BZFlag | jawn: the engine, yes. the data files, no. |
| 04:18:58 | captain_proton | BZFlag: well, the issue is that there are several references to /new that i already ripped out. i can throw them back in, but i can promise nothing will break (database is the same) |
| 04:19:20 | BZFlag | captain_proton: understood. |
| 04:19:31 | BZFlag | in any in cvs yet? |
| 04:19:44 | captain_proton | no, haven't put it in cvs |
| 04:19:48 | captain_proton | i probably should |
| 04:20:14 | BZFlag | yeah, make a "web" module or similar. k? |
| 04:20:24 | captain_proton | gotcha |
| 04:20:39 | captain_proton | i'll also throw in db dumps that create empty tables |
| 04:24:59 | MrApathyCream | i smell another illf8d map :) rosemeyers.net |
| 04:26:11 | BZFlag | captain_proton: good idea. |
| 04:32:21 | captain_proton | BZFlag: how about i throw it in /new, we go through 2 days of heavy review on content, then post? =} |
| 04:41:56 | BZFlag | captain_proton: sounds like a good plan. get to it. |
| 04:42:49 | captain_proton | ayeaye |
| 04:56:20 | captain_proton | hmm, i think we at least need renderer options for cel shading & sketch |
| 04:56:27 | captain_proton | BZFlag: you've seen sketchy quake? |
| 05:08:56 | fontenot | ah gcc 3.1.1 is out |
| 05:09:17 | Patlabor221 | needs sleep |
| 05:42:08 | captain_proton | halo! |
| 05:42:27 | halo | captain_proton!!! |
| 05:42:57 | halo | sup, i heard you guys played today?> |
| 05:43:05 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 05:43:08 | captain_proton | moles pasted us |
| 05:43:17 | halo | bummer |
| 05:43:24 | captain_proton | i didn't really expect any less |
| 05:43:32 | captain_proton | all of us haven't played for a while, plus i'm on dialup |
| 05:43:35 | captain_proton | moles play ctf all the time |
| 05:43:47 | halo | your whole crew was there/. |
| 05:43:49 | halo | ? |
| 05:43:54 | captain_proton | thats ALL they play (all ctf and no decks makes chestal a dull boy) |
| 05:43:57 | captain_proton | me, tank, & free |
| 05:44:19 | halo | i tried to connect, but my client keeps crashing, im using a sucky box |
| 05:44:31 | halo | spectator mode |
| 05:44:48 | captain_proton | ah, that sucks |
| 05:45:03 | halo | hopefully ill get my box fixed tommorrow |
| 05:48:54 | captain_proton | yes, hopefully |
| 05:49:15 | captain_proton | what do you think of this: i'm pushing to get some other rendering modes added to bz- cel shading, for instance |
| 05:50:23 | halo | cel shading? |
| 05:50:33 | captain_proton | a la http://www.dragonstone.com/Images/ScreenShots/1024/Dirk_Catapult1024x768.jpg |
| 05:52:31 | halo | nice |
| 05:52:38 | captain_proton | thats opengl :) |
| 05:52:49 | halo | dragons lair for xbox.... hmm |
| 05:55:49 | captain_proton | BZFlag: hmm, was that link a subtle hint that anaglyph rendering would be nifty? |
| 06:05:11 | captain_proton | taps the glass, in an effort to ascertain whether his connection is still alive |
| 06:13:20 | BZFlag | captain_proton: yes. ;-) and not so subtle. |
| 06:15:15 | captain_proton | whats your opinion on some of these other rendering tricks? |
| 06:21:26 | halo | captain_proton: wahts 'df'? |
| 06:25:32 | Gorb | Death Blossom (DB),nice idea |
| 06:26:14 | Gorb | Shoots all bullets avalible in a circular pattern from the tank. Just reminds me on Cells Cheat |
| 06:27:27 | Gorb | but i dont think its really a flag that bzflag needs |
| 06:29:35 | BZFlag | since cell == gorb that should not be tough, no? |
| 06:33:12 | Gorb | yes |
| 06:35:00 | BZFlag | heh. well opinions on the other flags that are on the list? |
| 06:36:04 | PerfectCell | i deninetly thing there are too many flags |
| 06:36:11 | PerfectCell | definetly |
| 06:39:48 | Gorb | I thing FS is really a great idea |
| 06:40:29 | BZFlag | must sleep. |
| 06:40:39 | ritchie_ | proton |
| 06:40:39 | ritchie_ | hi |
| 06:41:07 | captain_proton | 'lo ritchie_ |
| 06:41:14 | captain_proton | figured out how to fix the league security hole yet? =} |
| 06:41:42 | ritchie_ | i havent looked |
| 06:41:44 | ritchie_ | at that |
| 06:41:54 | ritchie_ | http://rpcharlton.d2g.com/bzctf/league/scr.gif |
| 06:42:18 | captain_proton | i saw that - dunno why it looks that way (left cell is width="125") |
| 06:42:24 | ritchie_ | yes |
| 06:42:33 | ritchie_ | maybe we should look into it |
| 06:42:37 | ritchie_ | it is not great |
| 06:42:39 | ritchie_ | :_) |
| 06:42:52 | ritchie_ | what shall we do about the pages (incs or whatever) |
| 06:42:52 | ritchie_ | ? |
| 06:43:10 | captain_proton | i don't know how to 'look into it' - looks fine here |
| 06:43:19 | ritchie_ | on which browser? |
| 06:43:29 | captain_proton | moz |
| 06:43:29 | ritchie_ | mozilla? |
| 06:43:30 | ritchie_ | yes |
| 06:43:34 | ritchie_ | it works fine in mozilla |
| 06:43:47 | ritchie_ | well it doesnt happen on the current league site |
| 06:44:18 | ritchie_ | so it must be a difference in the two |
| 06:44:19 | captain_proton | thats because the current league site isn't variable width |
| 06:44:25 | ritchie_ | ahah |
| 06:44:29 | ritchie_ | well thats it then |
| 06:44:35 | ritchie_ | i suppose if the main body text |
| 06:44:49 | ritchie_ | is not filling out the cell ie decides to make it smaller |
| 06:45:00 | ritchie_ | could we fix the right cell width? |
| 06:45:35 | ritchie_ | anyway |
| 06:45:36 | ritchie_ | must go |
| 06:45:42 | captain_proton | no, can't fix the right cell width |
| 06:45:46 | captain_proton | since thats what makes it dynamic width |
| 06:45:59 | ritchie_ | cant you set it as a percentage? |
| 06:46:09 | captain_proton | the entire table is a percentage |
| 06:46:11 | ritchie_ | or ="*" |
| 06:46:21 | captain_proton | * isn't valid |
| 06:46:30 | ritchie_ | is that just for frames then? |
| 06:46:41 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 06:46:43 | ritchie_ | ive done more work on the tournament - will get back to you later |
| 06:47:11 | ritchie_ | i am inclined to think that your document class idea is good |
| 06:47:57 | ritchie_ | neway |
| 06:48:12 | ritchie_ | thats something we could do - convert it to a nice format |
| 06:48:14 | ritchie_ | cya |
| 06:57:15 | strayer | hi |
| 06:57:36 | Widget | hihihi, strayer. |
| 06:58:43 | strayer | ?...drunken? ;) |
| 06:59:54 | Widget | is too young to drink. |
| 07:00:12 | strayer | oh....drugs? |
| 07:00:22 | Widget | Illegal. |
| 07:00:52 | strayer | hm....then U R quite funny... |
| 07:01:29 | Widget | Mir werde nicht erlaubt, Spiritus zu trinken. |
| 07:01:43 | Widget | Oder drogen... |
| 07:02:27 | strayer | hm...'werde'='wurde'? |
| 07:02:44 | Widget | Oh. |
| 07:03:12 | Widget | Ich slecht spreche Deutsch... |
| 07:03:34 | bomber_ | hi |
| 07:03:37 | Widget | hihihi, bomber_. |
| 07:03:42 | strayer | hi bomner |
| 07:03:50 | strayer | sry...bomber |
| 07:03:54 | Widget | Ich muß ueben. |
| 07:03:56 | bomber_ | n:o) |
| 07:04:01 | strayer | jep... |
| 07:04:02 | Widget | Moin, bomber_. |
| 07:04:16 | bomber_ | wie gehts |
| 07:04:30 | Widget | Jetzt... |
| 07:04:40 | bomber_ | ja...jetzt |
| 07:04:50 | Widget | Ich muß eine Mahlzeit essen.... |
| 07:04:55 | strayer | schlechten Leute gehts....jaja...immer gut |
| 07:05:04 | Widget | Abendessen! |
| 07:05:04 | bomber_ | haha |
| 07:05:06 | strayer | argh...ich meine Leuten |
| 07:05:16 | bomber_ | JETZT abendessen |
| 07:06:18 | Widget | ja.... ich wohne in Neuem Seeland. :) |
| 07:06:27 | Widget | bis bald |
| 07:06:38 | bomber_ | cu |
| 07:06:43 | strayer | cu |
| 07:07:23 | bomber_ | who stops Moles :o) |
| 07:07:50 | strayer | ...ein serverausfall....mehr wohl nicht... |
| 07:07:59 | strayer | @ bomber |
| 07:08:15 | bomber_ | haha |
| 07:09:42 | MrCooper-work | is away: I'm busy |
| 07:09:51 | MrCooper-work | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 07:39:33 | Pinguin | Moin bomber |
| 08:06:44 | bomber_ | hi Pinguin |
| 08:21:20 | Pinguin | Ah ... |
| 08:21:35 | Pinguin | Vital Signs from bomber ... still alive |
| 08:21:46 | Pinguin | How about your RAT? |
| 08:22:25 | Pinguin | Somebody: How to configure xchat to ring a bell when beeing talked to??? |
| 08:24:43 | bomber_ | my RAT is RATLOS :o)) |
| 08:25:01 | Pinguin | wo haengts? |
| 08:33:00 | Chestal | tag |
| 08:36:09 | strayer | hi chestal |
| 08:36:51 | captain_proton | Chestal: write that text! |
| 08:37:31 | strayer | hm... |
| 08:44:13 | Chestal | proton: actually I forgot what text exactly that is |
| 08:45:09 | captain_proton | Chestal: quickMessages |
| 08:45:25 | Chestal | captain_proton: ok,I remember that one, wasn't there something about a flag or two? |
| 08:45:46 | captain_proton | don't think so |
| 08:45:52 | captain_proton | we need to put the man pages up |
| 08:46:03 | Chestal | that's easy |
| 08:46:12 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 08:46:13 | Chestal | if you just cope with the output of man -Thtml |
| 08:46:30 | captain_proton | plan is to put the stuff in /new again, do heavy content review for 2 days, then post |
| 08:46:31 | Chestal | the man pages should include something about the config file, too I think |
| 08:46:50 | Chestal | I'm very busy these days, but I will try |
| 08:47:31 | Chestal | hmm, poor Resurrection lost all their matches yesterday |
| 08:48:09 | captain_proton | technically so did poor meq |
| 08:49:07 | Chestal | did you try to do another match? |
| 08:49:27 | captain_proton | never got to it |
| 08:49:47 | Chestal | well, meq should be able to beat most teams |
| 08:50:09 | captain_proton | perhaps if i had a real internet connection, and played more than once every couple weeks |
| 08:50:19 | Chestal | I guess you need more CTF training, I only see freelancer play CTF regularly |
| 08:51:03 | captain_proton | i need more everything training |
| 08:51:07 | captain_proton | i suck on the decks too |
| 08:51:52 | Chestal | but you lag was quite ok for dialup |
| 08:52:11 | captain_proton | soso |
| 08:52:13 | captain_proton | it was fluctuating |
| 08:53:13 | Chestal | I've seen much worse dialup lag. When will you be back to a fast connection? |
| 08:53:30 | captain_proton | aug 20 |
| 08:53:32 | captain_proton | abouts |
| 09:37:59 | Pinguin | is away: Hungry=>Lunch |
| 10:24:36 | Pinguin | is back (gone 00:46:37) |
| 11:57:57 | doughecka | lo MrApathyCream |
| 11:58:13 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 11:59:14 | strayer | hi MrApathyCream....U got my message? |
| 12:13:21 | MrApathyCream | emmm, don't recall |
| 12:14:11 | MrApathyCream | ah, ok here it is |
| 12:14:24 | [TeA] | lils |
| 12:15:43 | doughecka | hey, could anyone see if my server shows up in the list? |
| 12:16:26 | MrApathyCream | doughecka: name? |
| 12:16:31 | doughecka | hmm |
| 12:16:36 | doughecka | heck.no-ip.com |
| 12:16:46 | doughecka | it should say that |
| 12:16:56 | doughecka | abd breadhats server!!! |
| 12:17:10 | MrApathyCream | i don't see it |
| 12:17:15 | strayer | had not seen |
| 12:17:30 | MrApathyCream | strayer: There's a MsgQueryPlayer cmd you can send to a bzfs server to get players |
| 12:17:59 | doughecka | MrApathyCream: what is the command to get the server to show up in the list? |
| 12:18:09 | doughecka | I used your bat file maker |
| 12:18:16 | MrApathyCream | do yo -public? |
| 12:18:20 | doughecka | yup |
| 12:18:36 | MrApathyCream | strayer: there is a bzquery.pl file that shows how to do |
| 12:18:40 | doughecka | C:\Program Files\BZFlag>bzfs -p 5156 -pr 5157 -requireudp -public "Breadhats ser |
| 12:18:40 | doughecka | ver!!! STEALTH ONLY!!!!!" -publicaddr "heck.no-ip.com" -srvmsg "Welcome to the d |
| 12:18:40 | doughecka | umbest server on the planet... " -synctime -lagwarn 400 -lagdrop 1000 -maxidle 9 |
| 12:18:40 | doughecka | 99 -admsg "Register to win a new golf cart!!!!" -mo 9 +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f |
| 12:18:40 | doughecka | ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST -j -ms 5 +r -r -st 3 - |
| 12:18:40 | doughecka | sw 1 -fb -a -b -h -mp 15 -mts 200 -mps 200 -t +s 5 -s 99 -sa -passwd "rednoodle" |
| 12:18:48 | doughecka | there is my command line... |
| 12:19:00 | doughecka | hehe |
| 12:19:43 | doughecka | hmm |
| 12:19:47 | doughecka | I dont see anything wrong |
| 12:20:08 | doughecka | what about -publiclist "dghdfghgh" |
| 12:20:30 | doughecka | what do I put under -publiclist? |
| 12:20:53 | MrApathyCream | rikers ip |
| 12:20:57 | doughecka | ah |
| 12:20:59 | MrApathyCream | it's , hold on |
| 12:21:01 | doughecka | and that is... |
| 12:21:07 | doughecka | hrm |
| 12:21:33 | MrApathyCream | bzflist://166.70.15.250/ |
| 12:21:38 | doughecka | ok |
| 12:21:42 | doughecka | so just the ip? |
| 12:21:50 | doughecka | or the whole url? |
| 12:22:04 | MrApathyCream | i believe the whole url |
| 12:22:10 | doughecka | pol |
| 12:22:11 | doughecka | ok |
| 12:22:12 | doughecka | thx |
| 12:22:22 | doughecka | I like the java applet on your site.. |
| 12:22:27 | [TeA] | damn |
| 12:23:49 | strayer | MrApathyCream: where is this file? |
| 12:24:37 | MrApathyCream | strayer: in cvs -> bzflag/misc |
| 12:24:50 | doughecka | is there any special port I need to use? |
| 12:24:54 | doughecka | for the list server? |
| 12:25:02 | doughecka | its still not showing up... |
| 12:25:07 | MrApathyCream | hmm. |
| 12:25:24 | MrApathyCream | try this |
| 12:25:24 | MrApathyCream | http://www.BZFlag.org/list-server.txt |
| 12:25:39 | doughecka | um |
| 12:25:41 | doughecka | ok |
| 12:25:51 | doughecka | the only thing in there is the other link.. |
| 12:29:07 | [TeA] | [15:24] <doughecka> there is my command line... |
| 12:29:07 | [TeA] | [15:24] <doughecka> hehe |
| 12:29:07 | [TeA] | [15:25] <doughecka> hmm |
| 12:29:08 | [TeA] | [15:25] <doughecka> I dont see anything wrong |
| 12:29:08 | [TeA] | [15:25] <doughecka> what about -publiclist "dghdfghgh" |
| 12:29:08 | [TeA] | [15:25] <doughecka> what do I put under -publiclist? |
| 12:29:10 | [TeA] | [15:26] <MrApathyCream> rikers ip |
| 12:29:12 | [TeA] | [15:26] <doughecka> ah |
| 12:29:14 | [TeA] | [15:26] <MrApathyCream> it's , hold on |
| 12:29:16 | [TeA] | [15:27] <doughecka> ok |
| 12:29:18 | [TeA] | [15:27] <[TeA]> damn |
| 12:29:20 | [TeA] | [15:30] <doughecka> is there any special port I need to use? |
| 12:29:22 | [TeA] | oooooooops |
| 12:29:26 | [TeA] | sry |
| 12:29:37 | bzdougf | MrApathyCream: does my server show up now? |
| 12:30:01 | strayer | MrApathyCream: thx...have to go now....if there R further questions...I'll know who to ask for :) |
| 12:30:57 | bzdougf | I used -publiclist http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/list-server.txt |
| 12:31:04 | bzdougf | does it work? |
| 12:31:53 | bzdougf | aha, http://166.70.15.250/ need a port number |
| 12:31:56 | bzdougf | brb |
| 12:31:58 | bzdougf | breakfast |
| 12:58:19 | akira_ | moin |
| 12:58:58 | bzdougf | akira_: do you know what the command for a server to show up on the list is? |
| 13:00:32 | akira_ | bzflagquery ducati.unix-ag.org 5156 |
| 13:00:43 | akira_ | bzbotquery ducati.unix-ag.org 5156 |
| 13:00:48 | bzdougf | bzfquery |
| 13:00:54 | akira_ | bzfquery ducati.unix-ag.org 5156 |
| 13:00:55 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 13:01:02 | akira_ | ok, thats the syntax |
| 13:01:09 | bzdougf | yah |
| 13:01:15 | bzdougf | what is the list server? |
| 13:01:19 | bzdougf | and port? |
| 13:02:37 | akira_ | look in the bzc file |
| 13:02:50 | bzdougf | bzc? |
| 13:02:53 | bzdougf | oh |
| 13:02:53 | bzdougf | ok |
| 13:02:55 | akira_ | your config file |
| 13:04:07 | bzdougf | nope |
| 13:04:16 | bzdougf | a;; it says is http://BZFlag.SourceForge.net/list-server.txt |
| 13:04:21 | bzdougf | rats |
| 13:04:47 | akira_ | what do you want? |
| 13:04:57 | [TeA] | Waa |
| 13:05:04 | bzdougf | the port |
| 13:05:19 | bzdougf | I have to go... |
| 13:06:44 | akira_ | cu |
| 13:34:21 | [TeA] | hmm |
| 13:34:41 | akira_ | baeh |
| 15:47:25 | strayer | bzdougf: ...U R a funny one...:p |
| 15:47:29 | bzdougf | ;) |
| 15:51:29 | strayer | bzdougf: if U start Ur server...he should be in the list...not in the Rikers server-list but available over UDP |
| 15:51:37 | bzdougf | hmm |
| 15:51:43 | bzdougf | maybe |
| 15:51:48 | bzdougf | but I have a firewall... |
| 15:52:53 | strayer | oh...but the server-list.txt is refreshed after several hours...i thougt... |
| 15:53:06 | bzdougf | hmm |
| 15:54:01 | bzdougf | oh well |
| 15:54:11 | bzdougf | I guess I have to go fix my golfcart... |
| 15:54:20 | bzdougf | :) |
| 15:54:23 | strayer | bzdougf: but having a server without UDP possible sux |
| 15:54:29 | bzdougf | yea |
| 15:54:34 | bzdougf | patlabor221!~!!!!! |
| 15:54:44 | bzdougf | you know anything about listservers? |
| 15:54:45 | patlabor221 | jess? |
| 15:54:50 | patlabor221 | jess |
| 15:55:08 | patlabor221 | what about them? |
| 15:55:12 | bzdougf | hmm |
| 15:55:19 | bzdougf | my server does not show up in the list |
| 15:55:32 | bzdougf | I tried everthing |
| 15:55:33 | patlabor221 | ohh sorry bz list servers |
| 15:55:39 | patlabor221 | are you behind a nat? |
| 15:56:39 | bzdougf | yup, but I am DMZ |
| 15:56:39 | bzdougf | DMZ should work... |
| 15:56:44 | bzdougf | hmm |
| 15:56:52 | patlabor221 | that is true |
| 15:57:03 | bzdougf | dsl seems to be slowly dieing |
| 15:57:04 | patlabor221 | are you doing 1.8? or 1.7? |
| 15:57:05 | bzdougf | ;) |
| 15:57:07 | bzdougf | 1./7 |
| 15:57:09 | bzdougf | 1.7 |
| 15:57:25 | bzdougf | I even put -publiclist |
| 15:57:28 | patlabor221 | if you realy are the dmz then it should work |
| 15:57:32 | bzdougf | hmm |
| 15:57:36 | bzdougf | let me check.. |
| 15:58:51 | bzdougf | *-This feature should only be used by users with an extensive knowledge of TCP/IP. |
| 15:58:55 | bzdougf | yup, its on |
| 15:59:20 | patlabor221 | and the IP it's set to is the same IP your machine is set to? |
| 15:59:25 | bzdougf | yup |
| 15:59:35 | bzdougf | let me reboot the router |
| 15:59:41 | patlabor221 | your machine is NOT set to DHCP right? |
| 15:59:59 | patlabor221 | your machine is NOT set to DHCP right? |
| 16:00:15 | doughecka | ok |
| 16:00:17 | doughecka | rebooted it |
| 16:00:19 | doughecka | nope |
| 16:00:23 | doughecka | my ip is 192.168.123.3 |
| 16:00:48 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:00:50 | patlabor221 | and that is the exact specified DMZ address |
| 16:00:57 | doughecka | yup |
| 16:01:03 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:01:07 | doughecka | I know how to check it.. |
| 16:01:08 | patlabor221 | then it should work |
| 16:01:43 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:01:55 | doughecka | how do I check to see if I can get everything in |
| 16:02:47 | doughecka | nope |
| 16:02:52 | doughecka | I can see it on the list.. |
| 16:02:55 | doughecka | cant* |
| 16:03:09 | doughecka | oh |
| 16:03:10 | doughecka | wiat |
| 16:03:13 | doughecka | wait |
| 16:03:21 | doughecka | it has a dhcp client list |
| 16:03:24 | doughecka | and I am on it |
| 16:03:32 | doughecka | even though I have my ip set |
| 16:04:11 | doughecka | wierd |
| 16:04:15 | doughecka | my ip is set |
| 16:04:22 | doughecka | and its 192.168.123.3 |
| 16:04:26 | doughecka | but its on the dhcp list |
| 16:04:37 | doughecka | try, heck.no-ip.com |
| 16:04:44 | doughecka | you should get a webpage |
| 16:05:02 | patlabor221 | don't make the DMZ address be inside the DHCP range |
| 16:05:11 | doughecka | I dont have dhcp on |
| 16:05:25 | patlabor221 | I mean in the rounter |
| 16:05:31 | doughecka | I know |
| 16:05:34 | patlabor221 | I get a folder at that address |
| 16:05:38 | doughecka | yup |
| 16:05:40 | doughecka | thats good |
| 16:05:55 | doughecka | aha!!! |
| 16:06:00 | doughecka | dhcp IS on!! |
| 16:06:06 | patlabor221 | then turn it off |
| 16:06:07 | doughecka | I upgraded the firmware.. |
| 16:06:14 | doughecka | nasty cheap router |
| 16:08:33 | bzdougborken | bah |
| 16:09:01 | bzdougborken | ack |
| 16:09:16 | doughecka | ok |
| 16:09:43 | doughecka | bah |
| 16:09:47 | doughecka | still no server |
| 16:10:21 | doughecka | ok |
| 16:10:27 | doughecka | its says my ip is 192.168.123.130 |
| 16:10:39 | doughecka | but my ip in the control panel says 192.168.123.3 |
| 16:10:43 | doughecka | I checked |
| 16:10:56 | patlabor221 | open a command propmt |
| 16:11:00 | doughecka | ok |
| 16:11:01 | patlabor221 | and type ipconfig |
| 16:11:13 | doughecka | Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : |
| 16:11:13 | doughecka | IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.3 |
| 16:11:13 | doughecka | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 |
| 16:11:13 | doughecka | Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254 |
| 16:11:17 | doughecka | see? |
| 16:11:33 | patlabor221 | then that is your real IP |
| 16:11:36 | doughecka | ok |
| 16:11:39 | doughecka | but... |
| 16:11:46 | patlabor221 | perhaps you have multiple adapters defined in the controol panel? |
| 16:11:46 | doughecka | its still not letting me out |
| 16:11:49 | doughecka | nope |
| 16:11:50 | doughecka | only one |
| 16:12:02 | patlabor221 | this is 2K? |
| 16:12:05 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:13:03 | doughecka | here is what the router says |
| 16:13:04 | doughecka | 192.168.123.130 winpro 00-10-5A-C9-F0-4F |
| 16:13:10 | doughecka | in dhcp |
| 16:14:07 | doughecka | rebooting router |
| 16:16:26 | bzdoug | ok |
| 16:16:32 | bzdoug | here is ipconfig /all |
| 16:16:33 | bzdoug | Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-5A-C9-F0-4F |
| 16:16:33 | bzdoug | DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No |
| 16:16:35 | bzdoug | IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.3 |
| 16:16:37 | bzdoug | Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 |
| 16:16:39 | bzdoug | Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.123.254 |
| 16:16:41 | bzdoug | DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.135.64.3 |
| 16:16:43 | bzdoug | 216.135.64.2 |
| 16:16:47 | bzdoug | so the mac address is the same.. |
| 16:16:56 | patlabor221 | the mac never changes |
| 16:16:59 | bzdoug | yea |
| 16:17:01 | patlabor221 | it's part of the cardf |
| 16:17:10 | bzdoug | so at one time, it used dhcp |
| 16:17:12 | patlabor221 | open the net properties |
| 16:17:15 | bzdoug | ok |
| 16:17:33 | patlabor221 | get to the TCP/IP props |
| 16:17:35 | bzdoug | its open |
| 16:17:36 | bzdoug | ok |
| 16:17:48 | patlabor221 | what does it have for the static IP? |
| 16:17:54 | bzdoug | 192.168.123.3 |
| 16:18:22 | patlabor221 | and what is the IP in the router for DMZ? |
| 16:18:30 | bzdoug | 192.168.123.3 |
| 16:18:46 | bzdoug | 192.168.123.3 |
| 16:18:52 | patlabor221 | try making it something in the midle like 100 or something |
| 16:18:59 | bzdoug | the DMZ? |
| 16:19:02 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 16:19:07 | patlabor221 | and change the IP on the PC |
| 16:19:12 | bzdoug | ok.. |
| 16:19:14 | patlabor221 | what router is it? |
| 16:19:15 | bzdoug | do I need to reboot? |
| 16:19:17 | bzdoug | um |
| 16:19:23 | bzdoug | asante |
| 16:20:41 | patlabor221 | yes you must allways reboot the router after making a change |
| 16:26:39 | Quol | hello all |
| 16:27:31 | strayer | hi Quol |
| 16:36:53 | bzdoug_ | wierd |
| 16:36:55 | bzdoug_ | still here? |
| 16:40:09 | | bzdoug_? |
| 16:40:09 | bzdoug_ | ibot? |
| 16:40:10 | bzdoug_ | bah, the most unstable dsl in the world, and I have to have it |
| 16:47:10 | patlabor221 | move out of the hick state |
| 16:47:43 | patlabor221 | to some state that dosn't sue satalite company's for "beaming porn into there children's heads" |
| 16:48:38 | Quol | sorry strayer - was playing on ducati.... |
| 16:49:57 | strayer | np ;) |
| 16:50:54 | Quol | if anyone wants to join me - i am on the decks server - jzaun - or something like that........ |
| 16:51:07 | Quol | a couple of poeple are there already.... |
| 16:51:08 | Quol | later... |
| 16:51:27 | strayer | cu...maybe there |
| 16:53:53 | [TeA] | hui |
| 17:08:49 | bzdoug | ack |
| 17:08:52 | bzdoug | still not workin |
| 17:09:05 | bzdoug | at least the dhcp is fixed |
| 17:09:21 | | yes, bzdoug? |
| 17:09:21 | bzdoug | ibot? |
| 17:16:40 | bzdoug__ | patlabor221: you still here? |
| 17:17:50 | bzdoug__ | patlabor221: /msg about how the bzfs servers get onto the list... is it UDP, or does it talk to the bzfls server? |
| 17:17:54 | bzdoug__ | I have to go.. |
| 17:20:53 | xabbu | hallo |
| 17:20:58 | Oooo0 | hi |
| 17:21:13 | bryjen | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:21:14 | bzbot | Red: 3 players, score: -2 | Green: 4 players, score: -1 | |
| 17:22:04 | Oooo0 | xabbu: my team can probably get together around 24:00 UTC today |
| 17:23:11 | FantaZee | chestal |
| 17:23:15 | xabbu | OoooO: thats too late for us |
| 17:23:25 | Oooo0 | what times are good for you? |
| 17:23:31 | FantaZee | perfect cell is on ducati |
| 17:23:43 | Oooo0 | ban him |
| 17:23:54 | FantaZee | how ? |
| 17:24:00 | Oooo0 | I can |
| 17:24:05 | Oooo0 | isn't lupi on there? |
| 17:24:06 | FantaZee | do it |
| 17:24:18 | FantaZee | he must be on another server |
| 17:24:33 | FantaZee | he was there and jh and one loop |
| 17:24:53 | Oooo0 | ok, done |
| 17:24:55 | xabbu | between now and 20.00 |
| 17:24:58 | FantaZee | thx |
| 17:25:03 | Oooo0 | he'll be back though |
| 17:25:40 | Oooo0 | xabbu: that would be ok for us on the weekend, but not weekdays |
| 17:25:47 | Oooo0 | we're all located in the U.S. |
| 17:27:18 | xabbu | OoooO: and we are all Europeans... |
| 17:27:48 | Oooo0 | makes it difficult |
| 17:28:35 | Oooo0 | ok, well I'm off |
| 17:28:37 | Oooo0 | cu soon |
| 17:28:39 | xabbu | cu |
| 17:30:15 | bzdoug__ | *ahem* |
| 17:33:40 | akira_ | moin |
| 17:33:57 | bryjen | hmmm |
| 17:34:07 | bryjen | DNS funny business trying to get to ducati |
| 17:34:15 | akira_ | hallo FantaZee, patlabor221 and the rest of the schuetzenfest :) |
| 17:34:43 | FantaZee | hi akira |
| 17:34:49 | FantaZee | bin auf duc |
| 17:34:58 | strayer | akira: moin is gut... |
| 17:34:59 | akira_ | schoen fuer dich :) |
| 17:35:03 | akira_ | ich nich .. ich bin heme |
| 17:35:44 | bryjen | The list server sends each server's IP addr, but the client still resolves the DNS name on its own when you try to connect? |
| 17:36:18 | FantaZee | schade |
| 17:36:30 | akira_ | kann man nix machen fanta :) |
| 17:45:45 | [TeA] | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 17:45:46 | bzbot | Quol (Green):1 (3 wins, 2 losses). M1 (Red):8 (24 wins, 16 losses). Sniper 50 (Green):8 (61 wins, 53 losses). Zwei (Red):-9 (64 wins, 73 losses). |
| 17:46:32 | akira_ | tea, spielt ihr nun heute? |
| 17:58:06 | akira_ | bye all |
| 18:12:21 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:12:22 | bzbot | Freshman (Green):-3 (10 wins, 13 losses). fred' (Red):3 (12 wins, 9 losses). rover (Red):-4 (4 wins, 8 losses). happy birthday perfect cell (Green):4 (10 wins, 6 losses). rm -r (Red):0 (3 wins, 3 losses). |
| 18:32:36 | Widget | Es ist Geburtstag Cells. |
| 18:33:45 | Widget | Feiert ihr. |
| 18:34:38 | Cell | ja, ha be leider nur bischenfeiern können, bin leider schrecklich erkältet + starkes halsweh, dennoch schöner tag |
| 18:34:55 | [TeA] | cell bist deutsch ? |
| 18:34:59 | [TeA] | woher denn |
| 18:34:59 | Cell | ja |
| 18:35:04 | Cell | München |
| 18:35:05 | [TeA] | ich bin aus Muenchen :) |
| 18:35:09 | [TeA] | was |
| 18:35:13 | Cell | wirklich? |
| 18:35:14 | [TeA] | ich auch |
| 18:35:16 | [TeA] | ja |
| 18:35:19 | [TeA] | kennst du pullach |
| 18:35:23 | [TeA] | Solln |
| 18:35:30 | Cell | ja klar, ich wohne in Neuperlach |
| 18:35:38 | [TeA] | wie alt ? |
| 18:35:48 | Cell | gestern 24, heute 25 |
| 18:35:52 | Cell | .) |
| 18:35:56 | [TeA] | alles guten nachtraeglich |
| 18:36:00 | Cell | danke |
| 18:36:01 | Widget | Selbstverständlich ist Cell deutsch. |
| 18:36:09 | [TeA] | :( bin 24 vor ner woche geworeden |
| 18:36:16 | strayer | Cell: alles Gute! |
| 18:36:21 | [TeA] | Widget: du moechte gern deutsch sprecher |
| 18:36:22 | Cell | danke |
| 18:36:29 | [TeA] | ;) |
| 18:36:35 | strayer | TeA: alles Gtue nachtraeglich alter Sack |
| 18:36:50 | Cell | TeA:auch von mir alles Gute |
| 18:36:59 | Widget | ja, alles gut zum geburtstag |
| 18:37:24 | Cell | nun gibt es mich schon en viertel Jahrhundert, krass |
| 18:38:17 | Cell | mal sehen wie weit die computertechnologie in 25 jahren ist, haltet euch frisch Jungs |
| 18:38:27 | Cell | :) |
| 18:38:42 | strayer | ich hoffe dann versteh ich noch was... |
| 18:38:46 | [TeA] | strayer |
| 18:38:51 | [TeA] | dange ;) und cell ;) |
| 18:39:03 | strayer | schittebön |
| 18:39:04 | [TeA] | und danke an widget |
| 18:39:18 | [TeA] | #German-Lessons-with-TeA |
| 18:39:21 | Cell | ich hoffe ich brauche dann nicht mehr den computer zu verstehen sondern er versteht mich |
| 18:39:34 | Cell | hehe |
| 18:39:44 | [TeA] | ichj bekomm am donnerstang neuen :P |
| 18:39:54 | Widget | #Deutsche-Lektionen-mit-TeA |
| 18:40:01 | Cell | Athlon? |
| 18:40:05 | [TeA] | Widget |
| 18:40:07 | [TeA] | :) |
| 18:43:19 | Cell | Am Mittwoch schaue ich mal ins Festspielhaus, da soll so eine oben-ohne Party sein... |
| 18:43:42 | strayer | war klar dass du da auftauchst....mach ein paar fotos... |
| 18:44:05 | Ginku | Wo isn das Festspielhaus ? |
| 18:44:32 | Cell | Festspielhaus ist in München neben Alabama |
| 18:44:41 | Ginku | ahhh.. |
| 18:44:50 | Cell | wiso? |
| 18:45:10 | strayer | alabama....trinken bis zum tode...hehe |
| 18:45:36 | Cell | ich mache fotos, und tu sie dann hie rein :):) |
| 18:45:37 | Ginku | nur so....klang doch nicht schlecht: oben ohne...haette ja auch in LU sein koennen ;-) |
| 18:45:44 | Cell | ja genau |
| 18:45:51 | strayer | cell: ja bitte... :) |
| 18:46:00 | Cell | verlass dich drauf |
| 18:46:03 | Ginku | Chestal ? |
| 18:46:58 | [TeA] | chestal du dicker esel |
| 18:47:12 | [TeA] | wach auf die blinder maulwurf |
| 18:47:15 | [TeA] | ;) |
| 18:47:20 | Ginku | wieso dick ? |
| 18:47:21 | strayer | auf beleidingungen reagieren die meisten... |
| 18:47:26 | [TeA] | lol |
| 18:47:31 | [TeA] | ist doch ned erst ge,eint |
| 18:47:34 | [TeA] | gemein |
| 18:47:35 | [TeA] | t |
| 18:47:44 | | Chestal was last seen on #bzflag 9 hours, 54 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: I've seen much worse dialup lag. When will you be back to a fast connection? [Mon Jul 29 09:53:13 2002] |
| 18:47:44 | Ginku | ibot, seen Chestal |
| 18:47:54 | Ginku | naha |
| 18:48:05 | [TeA] | ginku du fettsack ;) |
| 18:48:09 | [TeA] | lol |
| 18:48:13 | [TeA] | nehm ich zurueck |
| 18:48:20 | [TeA] | nehm alles zurueck ;) |
| 18:48:25 | Ginku | naja..schlappe 94 kg |
| 18:48:42 | Cell | 94!!! Muskeln? |
| 18:48:52 | Ginku | ....wo ist die versteckte Kamera....verdammt.. |
| 18:49:09 | Ginku | Samenstraenge, selbstredend |
| 18:49:20 | Cell | hehe |
| 18:49:34 | Cell | schamhaare |
| 18:49:52 | Ginku | weiss jemand, ob es den chestal-akira-patch auch fuer Linux gibt ? |
| 18:49:57 | strayer | ihr seid KRANK |
| 18:49:58 | [TeA] | ja |
| 18:50:01 | [TeA] | naturlich |
| 18:50:04 | [TeA] | strayer ? |
| 18:50:08 | [TeA] | was geht mit dir ab |
| 18:50:11 | Ginku | ich finde nur diese dusselige exe-Datei |
| 18:50:17 | [TeA] | zip |
| 18:50:21 | [TeA] | zip `len |
| 18:50:29 | [TeA] | www.wirrehomepage.de |
| 18:50:33 | [TeA] | files |
| 18:50:36 | [TeA] | bzflag |
| 18:50:52 | Cell | hey pass auf keine exe dateien hier, sonst schick ich dir das love letter virus |
| 18:51:01 | [TeA] | cell °! |
| 18:51:08 | [TeA] | hoer moil aufi |
| 18:51:10 | [TeA] | ;) |
| 18:51:14 | Widget | Ginku: Ich dachte Sie war dänisch. |
| 18:51:24 | Ginku | ? |
| 18:51:25 | [TeA] | Cell gibs bei dir eigendlich diese halb starken kinder |
| 18:51:31 | [TeA] | Neuperlach |
| 18:51:37 | Cell | ja massenweise |
| 18:51:40 | [TeA] | die sich so auf fueren |
| 18:51:42 | [TeA] | aetzend |
| 18:51:46 | [TeA] | wiederlich |
| 18:51:49 | [TeA] | abartich |
| 18:51:53 | [TeA] | ichr ausdrucksweis |
| 18:51:56 | [TeA] | e |
| 18:52:03 | Cell | ja ich schaue immer ganz böse wenn ich über die Strasse gehe |
| 18:52:05 | Ginku | Widget, was sagtest Du ? |
| 18:52:20 | Widget | Ginku: Sie sagten, daß Sie dänisch waren. |
| 18:52:21 | [TeA] | cell :) |
| 18:52:30 | [TeA] | ich geh morgen in die city |
| 18:53:01 | [TeA] | was hoestn fuer music cell |
| 18:53:14 | Cell | ich muss morgen zum arzt, ansonsten habe ich semesterferien, endliiiiiiiich, und |
| 18:53:40 | strayer | was fuer ein arzt.....nerven-arzt?!? |
| 18:53:48 | Cell | nein psychiater |
| 18:54:11 | Widget | Liest jemand Tintin? |
| 18:54:13 | strayer | noch besser... |
| 18:54:27 | [TeA] | ? |
| 18:54:28 | Widget | Das Komischbuch. |
| 18:54:30 | [TeA] | Cell warum denn |
| 18:54:49 | [TeA] | Psyho ?? |
| 18:55:00 | Widget | Tim und Struppi. |
| 18:55:04 | Cell | ich hoere imbruglia, bob marley, fettes brot, und die anderen fallen mir jetzt nicht ein |
| 18:55:08 | [TeA] | lol |
| 18:55:14 | [TeA] | uhi |
| 18:55:17 | [TeA] | bobmarley |
| 18:55:21 | Cell | ja |
| 18:55:24 | [TeA] | :) |
| 18:55:26 | [TeA] | Nice music |
| 18:55:27 | Cell | bufallo soldier |
| 18:55:28 | Ginku | war jemand in MIB II ? |
| 18:55:32 | [TeA] | Ich |
| 18:55:32 | Widget | Niemand liest Tim und Struppi!?!? |
| 18:55:37 | Ginku | gut ? |
| 18:55:38 | Cell | doch ich |
| 18:55:41 | strayer | cih schon widget |
| 18:55:42 | [TeA] | naja |
| 18:55:45 | [TeA] | sehr witzig |
| 18:55:54 | [TeA] | haet besseres erwartet |
| 18:56:03 | Cell | aber es ist langweilig, weil tim alles überlebt deshalb unrealistisch |
| 18:56:11 | Ginku | Tim und Struppi habe ich vor 30 Jahren gelesen... |
| 18:56:15 | [TeA] | ja genaz cell |
| 18:56:18 | Cell | oh |
| 18:56:30 | [TeA] | ich geh danmn mal CTF`ln |
| 18:56:42 | Widget | Ich fand eine Kopie im Esperanto. |
| 18:57:02 | Widget | "Le crab aux pinces d'or"... |
| 18:57:14 | strayer | N8 @all... |
| 18:57:17 | Ginku | boah eye |
| 18:57:18 | Cell | he? |
| 18:57:20 | Widget | Goodnight, strayer. |
| 18:57:23 | Ginku | nacht |
| 18:58:04 | Cell | hey pass mal auf sonst batscherei ganz schnell dabei |
| 18:58:48 | Ginku | hehe |
| 18:59:09 | Cell | Erkan und Stefan |
| 18:59:15 | Ginku | ist bei Euch auch so scheiss warm ? |
| 18:59:23 | Cell | es geht |
| 18:59:31 | Ginku | wo gehts ? |
| 18:59:55 | Cell | bei mir ohne bunnies |
| 19:00:00 | Cell | ist nicht so warm |
| 19:00:08 | Ginku | in Muenchen ? |
| 19:00:13 | Cell | ja |
| 19:00:36 | Ginku | hostn Weissbier ? |
| 19:00:48 | Valoche | hi, there |
| 19:00:49 | captain_proton | tickles Valoche |
| 19:00:50 | Ginku | hey Valoche |
| 19:01:18 | Ginku | whats up with our team ? |
| 19:01:52 | Valoche | I think it's a dead one :( |
| 19:03:13 | Ginku | hmm...I thought so.. |
| 19:03:46 | Ginku | ...and your new house ? |
| 19:04:15 | Valoche | I'm working hard on it, that's why I don't have time to play BZflag as often as before |
| 19:04:43 | Ginku | hmm... thought so.... :-) |
| 19:05:17 | Valoche | (; |
| 19:05:19 | Cell | hey i move to thailand as soon as i collected some money |
| 19:05:49 | Valoche | wow, Cell, your lag is then going to be worse than ever (; |
| 19:05:58 | Cell | lol |
| 19:06:07 | Valoche | happy birthday BTW (a little late) |
| 19:06:11 | Cell | 1k connection also |
| 19:06:25 | Cell | thanks |
| 19:07:02 | Ginku | to Thailand you should travel alone (without girlfriend) ;-) |
| 19:07:05 | Cell | ipt packets are transported by one thaiwan hand to the next |
| 19:07:22 | Valoche | rotfl |
| 19:07:27 | Ginku | lol |
| 19:07:55 | Ginku | what does mean "rotfl" ? |
| 19:08:09 | Valoche | Roll On The Floor Laughing |
| 19:08:18 | Valoche | or maybe it's Rolling etc. |
| 19:08:19 | Ginku | lol |
| 19:08:31 | Cell | its rolling my lexicon says |
| 19:09:18 | Valoche | thx |
| 19:10:27 | Ginku | what about the wheather in Grenoble ? We`ve now 30 degree here ... |
| 19:10:37 | Cell | ibot help |
| 19:10:41 | Valoche | ditto |
| 19:10:46 | Valoche | very hot |
| 19:10:56 | Ginku | puh..indeed |
| 19:11:19 | Valoche | it was better this week-end: I was in Courchevel (: |
| 19:12:02 | | Cell: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 19:12:02 | Cell | ibot weather EDDM |
| 19:12:02 | Ginku | where is this town - French coast ? |
| 19:12:16 | patlabor221 | cap you got the CTF header with the new logo right? |
| 19:12:16 | Cell | k |
| 19:12:48 | Valoche | Ginku: it's in the Alps |
| 19:13:04 | captain_proton | patlabor221: ye, that i do |
| 19:13:06 | Ginku | ...aehem.....hehe....oops.... |
| 19:14:05 | Widget | patlabor221! Valoche! captain_proton! |
| 19:14:17 | Widget | Wo ist Chestal? |
| 19:14:21 | Valoche | Widget! |
| 19:14:33 | Cell | sleep time |
| 19:15:16 | Widget | patlabor221: I managed to compile the bot this time, and again it seems to work, but doesnae connect to the server. |
| 19:17:23 | Valoche | Ginku: http://www.courchevel.com (for your personal achievement (; ) |
| 19:17:32 | Ginku | thx :-) |
| 19:18:21 | Widget | Valoche: Is it possible that TFF will play again soon? |
| 19:18:58 | Valoche | Widget: dunno. I grant you the rights to plan matches whenever you want |
| 19:19:05 | Ginku | hm..seems to be very nice |
| 19:19:14 | Widget | The trouble is forcing the team to come. =P |
| 19:19:35 | captain_proton | BZFlag: almost finished replacing /new |
| 19:22:46 | Valoche | Widget, Ginku: please play league matches. Your goal is to reach ranking 1200 as fast as possible |
| 19:23:06 | Widget | Valoche: /me played two yesterday. |
| 19:23:16 | Widget | Valoche: I'm not on TFF. :) |
| 19:23:29 | Ginku | ??????????? |
| 19:23:51 | Ginku | I cannot fight alone te rest of the world :-) |
| 19:24:15 | Ginku | hello akira |
| 19:24:20 | Widget | Moin, akira_. |
| 19:24:53 | akira_ | abnd |
| 19:25:24 | akira_ | one of you know the procedere to chroot some stuff and take the /proc and the /dev into the chroot? |
| 19:25:29 | Widget | Wie geht es? |
| 19:26:20 | akira_ | danke der nachfrage, widget .. geht so, beschissen heiss hier, man schwitzt den ganze tag |
| 19:26:34 | akira_ | just to train a little bit your "german" :)) |
| 19:26:34 | Ginku | Valoche: are you able to play a league-game next Sunday |
| 19:26:54 | akira_ | hello ginku |
| 19:27:01 | doughecka | captain_proton: you here? |
| 19:27:03 | Ginku | halloele :-) |
| 19:27:06 | captain_proton | doughecka: perhaps |
| 19:27:08 | Widget | Was Temperatur? |
| 19:27:22 | doughecka | captain_proton: how does a server get added to the list? |
| 19:27:23 | Valoche | Ginku: well, I can schedule it for next Sunday, provided you gimme the time :) |
| 19:27:27 | doughecka | UDP? |
| 19:27:35 | Widget | akira_: Erhalten Sie einen Ventilator. |
| 19:27:39 | akira_ | Widget: so um die 30 grad |
| 19:27:57 | captain_proton | doughecka: if you add -public to the server command line, it adds itself to the list |
| 19:28:02 | doughecka | I did |
| 19:28:08 | doughecka | but it does not show up |
| 19:28:19 | doughecka | I have a server running right now.. |
| 19:28:23 | akira_ | Widget: "akira: besorg dir einen ventilator" -> go and get one -> Widget i already have one :) |
| 19:28:30 | Widget | Ah. |
| 19:28:40 | Ginku | shall I look for an opponent at 19 UTC ? |
| 19:28:41 | doughecka | but it does not show up.. |
| 19:28:55 | Valoche | Ginku: okay, I wrote it down |
| 19:29:01 | Ginku | k |
| 19:29:05 | doughecka | brb |
| 19:29:15 | Widget | Ginku: 1900 UTC Sunday? I think we can accomodate you. :) |
| 19:29:35 | doughecka | http://166.70.15.250:5156/ |
| 19:29:41 | doughecka | it does not show up there |
| 19:29:51 | doughecka | neither in the bzflag game |
| 19:29:53 | Ginku | why not widget :-) |
| 19:30:11 | Ginku | shall we fix it ? |
| 19:30:20 | akira_ | Widget: aber ich war den halben tag mit dem bike unterwegs und da fliesst das wasser in stroemen |
| 19:30:35 | doughecka | captain_proton: I am also DMZ host |
| 19:31:57 | bryjen | doughecka: log into/out of the server once to get it to send an update message to the list server |
| 19:32:13 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:32:17 | doughecka | k |
| 19:32:36 | Ginku | isses in MD auch so heiss wie hier in LU ? |
| 19:32:48 | bryjen | it should've sent a message on startup, but that message may have gotten lost |
| 19:33:06 | doughecka | I did |
| 19:33:11 | doughecka | but it still does not show up |
| 19:33:11 | Widget | akira_: Was ist die Temperatur in Deutschland während des Winters? |
| 19:33:38 | doughecka | try connecting to heck.no-ip.com 5156 |
| 19:33:48 | Widget | doughecka: Is it a 1.8 server? |
| 19:33:51 | doughecka | 1.7 |
| 19:33:53 | akira_ | Widget: haengt vom winter ab .. kalte winter: -20 warme winter +5 |
| 19:34:15 | bryjen | doughecka: what's its address |
| 19:34:20 | doughecka | 208.147.39.133 |
| 19:34:21 | bryjen | nm |
| 19:34:36 | doughecka | or heck.no-ip.com |
| 19:34:44 | Widget | akira_: Extreme (?) Temperaturen. |
| 19:36:00 | Ginku | -20 degree is a extreme temperature in Germany (Celsius) |
| 19:36:40 | Ginku | where are you from Widget ? |
| 19:36:45 | akira_ | Widget: in the winter -> cold -> north hemisphere ... |
| 19:36:57 | Valoche | akira: south pole |
| 19:37:01 | akira_ | at the moment its summer :) |
| 19:37:04 | akira_ | Valoche: :)) |
| 19:37:19 | akira_ | cu all |
| 19:37:23 | Valoche | bye |
| 19:37:26 | Ginku | bye akira |
| 19:37:41 | Ginku | Widget ? |
| 19:38:01 | Widget | Ginku: Hi. |
| 19:38:19 | Ginku | Widget: where are you from ? |
| 19:38:24 | Widget | Neues Seeland. |
| 19:38:37 | Ginku | what ...lol |
| 19:38:46 | doughecka | yea right |
| 19:38:56 | Widget | Ginku: You said you were from Denmark! How come you speak German, then? |
| 19:38:58 | Valoche | Oh my Widget, how many languages do yo uspeak? |
| 19:39:01 | doughecka | Widget: hwo cold is it there? |
| 19:39:05 | Widget | Valoche: Only three, fluently. |
| 19:39:08 | captain_proton | damnit! |
| 19:39:09 | Widget | doughecka: Hovers between 0 and 10. |
| 19:39:24 | Widget | doughecka: In the nights, slightly below 0. |
| 19:39:25 | Ginku | Widget: no i am from Germany |
| 19:39:25 | doughecka | nice captain_proton |
| 19:39:32 | doughecka | wow |
| 19:40:00 | Ginku | whats that ? |
| 19:40:02 | doughecka | Mmmm |
| 19:40:08 | Valoche | oh my, the new site is busy ;) |
| 19:40:14 | Widget | By "jupiter"? |
| 19:40:27 | Widget | Ooh, nice Wiki. |
| 19:40:33 | Widget | The "Moin, Moin" wiki. |
| 19:40:36 | Valoche | Widget: by jove, if you preffer |
| 19:40:39 | Widget | In tribute of akira_? |
| 19:40:59 | Valoche | http://bzflag.org/developers/ grrrrr |
| 19:41:20 | Widget | Par Toutatis! |
| 19:41:41 | Valoche | Widget: (; |
| 19:42:05 | Ginku | I have to go now (bedtime) cu all.. |
| 19:42:11 | Valoche | nite nite Ginku |
| 19:42:11 | Widget | Bye, Ginku. |
| 19:42:21 | Ginku | :-) |
| 19:42:22 | Widget | Ils sont fous ces romains! |
| 19:42:34 | Widget | Tim und Struppi. |
| 19:42:53 | Widget | Kuifje en Bobby. |
| 19:43:09 | Widget | hihihi, doughecka. |
| 19:43:11 | Valoche | Dogodor biendiengien Ginkudugu |
| 19:44:11 | Widget | Utzay.... Ejay emay uissay assécay amay ambejay. |
| 19:44:22 | Widget | Moin, MrCooper. |
| 19:44:47 | MrCooper | hi |
| 19:46:55 | Valoche | I'm going to train^H^H^H play a little, bye |
| 19:47:31 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:47:32 | bzbot | tankmann (Red):28 (55 wins, 27 losses). rover (Green):-5 (12 wins, 17 losses). gonna die (Red):-11 (4 wins, 15 losses). Jonny (Red):7 (13 wins, 6 losses). Dutch Mandrake (Green):-10 (3 wins, 13 losses). Wingding (Green):1 (23 wins, 22 losses). |
| 19:52:30 | doughecka | captain_proton: you here? |
| 19:53:17 | doughecka | pokes captain_proton |
| 19:55:59 | captain_proton | doughecka: what do you want? |
| 19:56:10 | doughecka | how about -publiclist? |
| 19:56:36 | doughecka | could I use that and force the server to list itself? |
| 19:57:17 | captain_proton | just using -public "description" will force it to list itself |
| 19:57:21 | captain_proton | -publiclist is different |
| 19:57:22 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:57:24 | doughecka | ok |
| 19:57:29 | doughecka | I have -public though |
| 19:57:48 | doughecka | -public "Breadhats server" |
| 19:58:12 | bryjen | try adding -publicaddr w.x.y.z |
| 19:58:24 | bryjen | with you IP |
| 19:58:45 | doughecka | I have -publicaddr "heck.no-ip.com" |
| 19:58:48 | captain_proton | fj33rs the big scary op :) |
| 19:59:02 | doughecka | that should get you kicked |
| 19:59:04 | doughecka | ;0 |
| 20:00:21 | bryjen | hehe, |
| 20:00:40 | bryjen | wonders if captain_proton had anything to do with that |
| 20:01:39 | captain_proton | haha |
| 20:03:57 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:04:06 | doughecka | my command line is bzfs -p 5156 -pr 5157 -requireudp -public "Breadhats server!!! STEALTH ONLY!!!!!" -publicaddr 208.147.39.133 -srvmsg "Welcome to the dumbest server on the planet... " -synctime -lagwarn 400 -lagdrop 1000 -maxidle 999 -admsg "Register to win a new golf cart!!!!" -mo 9 +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST +f ST -j -ms 5 +r -r -st 3 -sw 1 -fb -a -b -h -mp 15 -mts 200 -mps 200 -t +s 5 -s |
| 20:04:22 | doughecka | brb |
| 20:12:44 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 20:12:49 | captain_proton | get rid of -synctime |
| 20:17:36 | bryjen | -lagdrop 1000 ?!? |
| 20:18:18 | captain_proton | haha |
| 20:18:24 | captain_proton | good catch |
| 20:21:41 | bryjen | and i don't think you need +s or -s if you've explicitly listed +f 's |
| 20:23:09 | bryjen | hmmmm |
| 20:23:39 | bryjen | not use std port 5155. does -publicaddr need to be w.x.y.z:p ? |
| 20:26:31 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream! |
| 20:26:47 | captain_proton | yeah, it does need :5156 |
| 20:26:54 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:27:10 | doughecka | my lag sometimes hits 1000 on here |
| 20:27:13 | doughecka | ;) |
| 20:27:45 | captain_proton | doughecka: do you really want it to warn 1000 times before it lagkicks? |
| 20:27:52 | doughecka | erk |
| 20:27:56 | doughecka | noo |
| 20:28:00 | doughecka | I dont think I would |
| 20:28:03 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:28:09 | doughecka | that would be cool... |
| 20:28:18 | doughecka | DoS the person off |
| 20:28:19 | doughecka | ;) |
| 20:28:46 | doughecka | soo |
| 20:28:55 | doughecka | is there anything wrong with it? |
| 20:29:06 | doughecka | maybe I need to downgrade my server |
| 20:29:37 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 20:29:55 | Patlabor221 | did you get it to show up? |
| 20:29:59 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:30:01 | doughecka | not yet |
| 20:30:17 | doughecka | trying an older server |
| 20:30:17 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you should try it with just the minimum standard setings |
| 20:30:26 | Patlabor221 | just to see if it works |
| 20:30:28 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:30:29 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:30:33 | Patlabor221 | then worry about the fancy things |
| 20:30:38 | doughecka | k |
| 20:30:52 | bryjen | hmm, i thought i'd just found the relevant section of code, it look like it appends that port# if it doesn't match the std one.... |
| 20:31:11 | Patlabor221 | goug try it on the standard port first |
| 20:31:21 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:31:30 | Patlabor221 | then wory about cusotm ports |
| 20:31:49 | doughecka | yea, I used MrApathyCream's applet to make it |
| 20:31:55 | Patlabor221 | if it won't work on the standard then it won't work on a custom |
| 20:31:59 | doughecka | rats |
| 20:32:22 | Patlabor221 | and perhaps your router dosn't support DMZ of UDP |
| 20:32:25 | captain_proton | bryjen: didn't when i did it - had to add :port to -publiclist |
| 20:32:33 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:32:35 | doughecka | I know it does |
| 20:32:43 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:32:49 | Patlabor221 | how do you know? have you done this before? |
| 20:32:55 | doughecka | its running bzfs -public "TEST!!!!" |
| 20:33:01 | doughecka | basic |
| 20:33:09 | Patlabor221 | does that show up? |
| 20:33:17 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:33:28 | Patlabor221 | then you got other issues |
| 20:33:29 | doughecka | let me connect |
| 20:33:37 | bryjen | its inside an if block, maybe turned off by something else. |
| 20:33:46 | Patlabor221 | changing paramaters isn't going to change make it work |
| 20:34:38 | Patlabor221 | doughecka: did this use to work, then stop, or is this the first time you have tried to make a BZServer public? |
| 20:35:09 | doughecka | first time to get bzfs to work, but I did UDP stuff that only worked with DMZ |
| 20:35:36 | doughecka | rats! |
| 20:35:41 | doughecka | let me downgrade... |
| 20:37:12 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:37:16 | doughecka | e4 does not work |
| 20:37:21 | doughecka | but I know UDP works |
| 20:37:31 | doughecka | it does not kick other people when they shoot |
| 20:39:00 | Patlabor221 | can you ping the master server from your machine? |
| 20:39:09 | doughecka | master server? |
| 20:39:15 | bryjen | list server |
| 20:39:25 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:39:29 | doughecka | yea, I can get to it |
| 20:39:34 | doughecka | http://166.70.15.250:5156/ |
| 20:39:36 | doughecka | right? |
| 20:40:02 | bryjen | does your bzfs process spit out any error messages? |
| 20:40:27 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:40:39 | doughecka | C:\Program Files\BZFlagold>bzfs -public "TEST!!!!" |
| 20:40:39 | doughecka | accept() from 192.168.123.3:1749 on 476 |
| 20:40:41 | doughecka | thats it |
| 20:40:45 | doughecka | for e4 |
| 20:41:00 | bryjen | does this box have more than one NIC ? |
| 20:41:06 | doughecka | nope.. |
| 20:41:07 | Patlabor221 | it realy sounds like 1 of 2 thing |
| 20:41:08 | doughecka | only one |
| 20:41:13 | Patlabor221 | 1) you don't have UDP |
| 20:41:17 | doughecka | X |
| 20:41:18 | Patlabor221 | 2) the DMZ isn't workinfg |
| 20:41:21 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:41:27 | doughecka | well, I do have UDP |
| 20:41:31 | doughecka | ... |
| 20:41:37 | doughecka | and I know DMZ works... |
| 20:42:05 | Patlabor221 | but are you sure UDP is working wiht DMZ? |
| 20:42:12 | bryjen | try bzfs -public "TEST" -publiclist "bzflist://166.70.15.250/" |
| 20:42:15 | Patlabor221 | and on that port |
| 20:42:18 | doughecka | yup |
| 20:42:25 | Patlabor221 | how are you sure? |
| 20:42:33 | doughecka | positive |
| 20:42:37 | Patlabor221 | how? |
| 20:42:39 | doughecka | I think |
| 20:42:41 | doughecka | ;P |
| 20:42:43 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:42:58 | doughecka | it does not kick players when I have requier UDP on |
| 20:43:07 | doughecka | so UDP gets through |
| 20:43:22 | Patlabor221 | yes but that's outgoing not incoming |
| 20:43:34 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:43:38 | doughecka | bryjen: nope |
| 20:43:43 | Patlabor221 | does the DMZ know to rout incoming UDP packets to your internal IP |
| 20:43:45 | doughecka | bryjen: it just quits |
| 20:43:53 | doughecka | Patlabor221: that I dont know |
| 20:43:58 | doughecka | its a cheap router |
| 20:44:09 | Patlabor221 | does it have static routing tables? |
| 20:44:11 | doughecka | Patlabor221: let me email tech support |
| 20:44:19 | doughecka | Patlabor221: dunno |
| 20:44:20 | doughecka | brb |
| 20:44:23 | Patlabor221 | find out |
| 20:45:29 | Patlabor221 | the questions I would ask, are: what port and transport type does the comuntication with the master server use |
| 20:45:39 | bryjen | Patlabor221: Widget and I connected to it manually and I could the Widget and doughecka driving and shooting OK |
| 20:45:42 | Patlabor221 | : can people connect direclty to you |
| 20:45:52 | Patlabor221 | ok that's goood |
| 20:45:53 | bryjen | s/the/see |
| 20:45:56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: asking about connecting to the list server? |
| 20:46:05 | Widget | Patlabor221: What? |
| 20:46:07 | Widget | Er... |
| 20:46:09 | Widget | bryjen: What? |
| 20:46:11 | Patlabor221 | now what port and protocool does the list server use? |
| 20:46:22 | Patlabor221 | UDP or TCP? |
| 20:46:26 | captain_proton | TCP, port 5156 |
| 20:46:30 | bryjen | Widget: just talking about you while you weren't listening :) |
| 20:46:56 | captain_proton | http://list.bzflag.org:5156/ |
| 20:47:01 | Patlabor221 | doughecka: is there a block on that port on your router? |
| 20:47:13 | bryjen | the builtin list server URL is a http to sourceforge |
| 20:47:24 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:47:41 | Patlabor221 | what port is the game server on? |
| 20:48:05 | bryjen | if I start my server without -publiclist "bzflist://166.70.15.250/", I get "connecting to HTTP server: No route to host" |
| 20:48:25 | doughecka | ? |
| 20:48:34 | doughecka | let me try... |
| 20:48:46 | bryjen | doesn't mean it'll help you |
| 20:48:56 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:49:05 | doughecka | server started without errors |
| 20:49:07 | Patlabor221 | what port is the game server on? |
| 20:49:17 | bryjen | by default 5155 |
| 20:49:18 | doughecka | the default |
| 20:49:35 | doughecka | bzfs -public "TEST" -publiclist "bzflist://166.70.15.250/" is the command line |
| 20:49:53 | bryjen | client contacts the server at 5155, gets some info, the calls back on 5156 |
| 20:50:09 | Patlabor221 | I would add ports 5000-6000 as a static rout to your DMZ in the rout table |
| 20:50:09 | bryjen | right, captain_proton ? |
| 20:50:25 | doughecka | Patlabor221: cant, there is no such thing in the router |
| 20:50:34 | doughecka | its just DMZ on, ip? |
| 20:50:38 | Patlabor221 | get a real router |
| 20:50:46 | doughecka | right |
| 20:50:47 | doughecka | ;) |
| 20:50:52 | Patlabor221 | what model is it? |
| 20:51:17 | doughecka | asante FriendlyNet DSL router FR3005 |
| 20:51:19 | doughecka | er |
| 20:51:21 | doughecka | 3004 |
| 20:51:58 | Patlabor221 | 3004C or 3004LC? |
| 20:52:10 | bryjen | i still don't see you in the list |
| 20:52:12 | doughecka | umm |
| 20:52:29 | doughecka | Patlabor221: 3004 with out the printer and modem port |
| 20:52:43 | Patlabor221 | wow those are ugly |
| 20:52:44 | doughecka | so maybe C' |
| 20:52:52 | doughecka | Patlabor221: yup |
| 20:55:15 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:55:37 | bryjen | You router, she is friendly, but not too bright... |
| 20:55:44 | Patlabor221 | under port access cotnrol you have nothing set right? |
| 20:55:54 | doughecka | hehe |
| 20:56:04 | doughecka | yyeess |
| 20:56:11 | doughecka | I have full outgoing |
| 20:56:17 | Patlabor221 | what about incoming? |
| 20:56:29 | doughecka | ports 20-9000 |
| 20:56:35 | doughecka | me thinks |
| 20:56:47 | Patlabor221 | I would unblock them all for now |
| 20:57:42 | Patlabor221 | and add the BZ ports to the Virtual severs section under adavaced setup |
| 20:57:50 | Patlabor221 | that's the staic rout table |
| 20:58:45 | Patlabor221 | other then that I'd say go spend $35 on a D-Link router and watch it just work |
| 20:59:45 | captain_proton | hah |
| 20:59:57 | bryjen | angelina: hi |
| 21:00:26 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:02:23 | doughecka | ports 20-9000 are in the virtual servers |
| 21:03:09 | angelina | bryjen: hi, I'm stil depressed from yesterday! |
| 21:05:12 | bryjen | angelina: I'm a little disappointed too, but in the end, its only a game. I enjoyed playing. |
| 21:05:50 | angelina | yeah, it was fun...but it sux to be 4 and 0 |
| 21:05:50 | bryjen | paul__: hi there |
| 21:05:56 | paul__ | hiya bryjen.. |
| 21:05:59 | doughecka | it sux to be 17 and 0 |
| 21:06:01 | angelina | 0 and 4 |
| 21:06:05 | paul__ | did i miss a game? |
| 21:06:15 | bryjen | no |
| 21:06:22 | paul__ | phew.. |
| 21:06:38 | paul__ | i hate it when i miss getting a backside spanking |
| 21:06:46 | bryjen | kinky |
| 21:06:49 | angelina | hah, me too |
| 21:07:11 | paul__ | :) |
| 21:07:21 | paul__ | any more matches lined up? |
| 21:07:35 | angelina | did you guys get wings bzmessage? |
| 21:07:43 | paul__ | no - havnt checked yet. |
| 21:07:46 | angelina | bout strategy? |
| 21:07:56 | bryjen | I saw it. |
| 21:07:58 | doughecka | send that message to me too |
| 21:07:59 | doughecka | ;) |
| 21:08:17 | bryjen | That's about what we tried to do.... |
| 21:08:33 | paul__ | got home from work at 20:30, had food, then went out to fix a computer belonging to a guy who got my number of an old friend of mine who lives in sweden... |
| 21:08:38 | paul__ | is only just back |
| 21:09:16 | paul__ | aye - we're getting killed on strategy most of all |
| 21:09:39 | bryjen | paul__: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/apparel/388b.shtml |
| 21:09:45 | angelina | i kept forgetting to defend sometimes |
| 21:10:01 | paul__ | aye, we need more discipline. |
| 21:10:39 | paul__ | should bind those things to quick message keys too. |
| 21:10:49 | angelina | hmm....my puter locks up when i hit "find server" bzflag |
| 21:10:57 | doughecka | bummer |
| 21:11:11 | paul__ | bryjen: ha ha! yes - that's what i need. |
| 21:11:11 | angelina | well, X locks up i should say |
| 21:11:19 | bryjen | i setup the quick messages..... and never used them in the game :( |
| 21:11:29 | captain_proton | doughecka: OMG. what in the world persuaded you to post DEC wars in your league profile? |
| 21:11:31 | paul__ | angelina: your computer isnt locked up. bz blocked. |
| 21:11:42 | doughecka | captain_proton: is that wrong? |
| 21:11:43 | paul__ | bz is blocked waiting for network resp. |
| 21:11:48 | captain_proton | doughecka: its just, um, long |
| 21:11:55 | bryjen | captain_proton: have you seen DuKot's player info ? |
| 21:11:59 | paul__ | perhaps one of the bz code gurus could make lookup asynchronous? |
| 21:12:06 | doughecka | captain_proton: lol, maybe I shall replace it with a new story |
| 21:12:35 | angelina | paul__: but i cant exit bzflag, so i have to kill it from another console |
| 21:12:36 | paul__ | bryjen: though in case it was a bit of a sob story "wont start up - says read error and we've got files we need on it" |
| 21:12:50 | doughecka | paul__: classic |
| 21:12:50 | paul__ | angelina: yes - but its bz that isnt responding. |
| 21:12:54 | bryjen | paul__: I /think/ that was on the list for 1.8, along with a bazillion other things |
| 21:13:09 | paul__ | angelina: X is fine (notice the mouse still moves) |
| 21:13:22 | angelina | your right |
| 21:13:24 | paul__ | bryjen: fingers crossed - it really needs it. |
| 21:13:27 | bryjen | angelina: just kill or kill -9 bzflag |
| 21:13:49 | angelina | killall -9 is what i did |
| 21:13:56 | captain_proton | bryjen: dukot's isn't QUITE as bad |
| 21:14:04 | bryjen | you murderer! |
| 21:14:09 | captain_proton | bryjen: though i see he's discovered HTML is valid :) |
| 21:14:49 | bryjen | captain_proton: there's a saying, something about patting yourself on the back so hard you knock yourself down..... |
| 21:15:30 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 21:15:42 | captain_proton | 4/5 of meq's memebers are on dukot's 'admire' list :) |
| 21:15:45 | arathorn | hi all |
| 21:15:54 | paul__ | ah... aslan - crazy world. brilliant. |
| 21:16:07 | bryjen | captain_proton: isn't it good to be loved? |
| 21:16:16 | captain_proton | bryjen: hehe |
| 21:18:10 | paul__ | which team is this dukot on? |
| 21:18:14 | bryjen | I don't want to make too much fun. He seems like a decent guy and a good player. |
| 21:18:26 | bryjen | He leads RLF |
| 21:18:45 | paul__ | and which is doug on? |
| 21:19:03 | bryjen | doung leads annihilation |
| 21:19:51 | paul__ | hmm... this dukot sounds ok. he's into fast bikes anyway. |
| 21:20:01 | paul__ | and bsd and linux. |
| 21:20:20 | bryjen | Time for me to go home. I promised to cook dinner. Later All. |
| 21:20:22 | paul__ | (us auld fellas get a bit strange in our decrepit years) |
| 21:20:39 | angelina | bye brujen |
| 21:21:48 | paul__ | doug: do you even understand any of the story you have in profile? (it's a bit before your time...) |
| 21:23:09 | paul__ | (no offense - i'm just curious. its over my head too) |
| 21:25:00 | captain_proton | puts the web site in CVS |
| 21:34:21 | akira_ | abnd |
| 21:51:11 | angelina | any of you guys use mozilla browser? |
| 21:51:28 | jzaun | angelina: I have in the past |
| 21:51:33 | angelina | how do i get that history sidebar thingy? |
| 21:51:44 | jzaun | let me fire it up |
| 21:51:54 | angelina | mozilla 1.0 |
| 21:52:22 | jzaun | The history side bar is just there, did you turn it off? |
| 21:52:40 | angelina | i might have... |
| 21:52:49 | angelina | i must have! |
| 21:53:52 | jzaun | do you have the side bar at all? |
| 21:54:00 | angelina | no, nothing |
| 21:54:10 | angelina | no little grab bar either |
| 21:54:18 | jzaun | oh, no grab bar.... |
| 21:55:15 | jzaun | try F9 |
| 21:55:29 | angelina | bingo |
| 21:55:49 | jzaun | View menu/Show Hide submenu |
| 21:55:51 | jzaun | as well |
| 21:56:02 | jzaun | captain_proton: you here? |
| 21:56:09 | captain_proton | jzaun: that i am |
| 21:56:17 | jzaun | captain_proton: yay :-D |
| 21:56:37 | angelina | jzaun: Thnx |
| 21:57:39 | jzaun | http://justin.jzaun.com/world.bzw take a look at that, could I use the name: The Decks II? |
| 22:00:25 | captain_proton | jzaun: hmm |
| 22:00:37 | jzaun | If not, thats cool too |
| 22:00:41 | jzaun | Just not sure what to call it |
| 22:00:42 | captain_proton | you're not the first to make a new decksish world |
| 22:00:47 | jzaun | or how it would work out... |
| 22:01:07 | captain_proton | and its not my place to decide the name |
| 22:01:12 | captain_proton | ask admiral his opinion on it |
| 22:02:06 | jzaun | Will do :-) |
| 22:03:14 | jzaun | I'm thionking of opening 2 more ports on jzaun.com.... you like running 2 worlds :-) |
| 22:03:24 | akira_ | byall |
| 22:03:32 | captain_proton | if you can't track him down online i'll get you his email address |
| 22:03:49 | jzaun | I'll keep an eye out for him... not a big hurry |
| 22:04:25 | captain_proton | i'm so happy :) |
| 22:04:51 | jzaun | Congradulations!! What ya happy for? |
| 22:05:05 | captain_proton | i asked out the girl i've always been too shy to ask out :) |
| 22:05:43 | jzaun | I take it she said yes? |
| 22:05:57 | captain_proton | yepyep |
| 22:05:59 | captain_proton | :) |
| 22:06:22 | jzaun | :-) Wish I could build up the guts to ask Bethany out |
| 22:06:57 | Patlabor221 | why don't you just do it? |
| 22:07:01 | angelina | jzaun: just ASK....trust me |
| 22:07:22 | jzaun | Patlabor221: always afraid she would say no... |
| 22:07:27 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: argg. you don't know what its like =| |
| 22:07:29 | Patlabor221 | and if she does |
| 22:07:41 | Patlabor221 | are you f'en kiding I know exactly waht's it's like |
| 22:07:44 | captain_proton | start crying? =} |
| 22:07:47 | Patlabor221 | and you just have to |
| 22:07:55 | jzaun | Patlabor221: would be wonderfull, but she might say no... and if she did I would ***hate*** to loose her as a friend |
| 22:07:59 | Patlabor221 | if she says's no then you know |
| 22:08:17 | Patlabor221 | so ask all casual like, it's not like it's a make or break it thing |
| 22:08:30 | Patlabor221 | if she says no then you go on wiht your friendship |
| 22:08:34 | angelina | shes not going to hate you even if she says no! you'll still be pals |
| 22:08:44 | jzaun | we'll see, I gonin out to a club with her saturday |
| 22:09:07 | Patlabor221 | now if you go an get it on with her best friend right after that, she may get a bit peeved |
| 22:09:21 | Patlabor221 | ummm not that I know anything about that................ |
| 22:09:29 | jzaun | haha... |
| 22:09:30 | angelina | lol, thats a no no |
| 22:09:36 | Patlabor221 | now you tell me |
| 22:09:51 | Patlabor221 | why wasn't I informed of this like 8 years ago |
| 22:10:07 | angelina | you didnt get the memo? |
| 22:10:15 | Patlabor221 | no my e-mail has been down |
| 22:10:24 | Patlabor221 | and she hit on me |
| 22:10:33 | paul__ | Patlabor221: 8 years? you must have permanent scarring on your cheeks from all the slaps :) |
| 22:10:34 | angelina | never hit on her freinds or worse, her sister |
| 22:10:41 | Patlabor221 | no no slaps |
| 22:10:43 | jzaun | Still a no no, friends don't date friends.... |
| 22:10:53 | jzaun | I saw that on TV numerious times |
| 22:10:56 | paul__ | just date enemies :) |
| 22:11:05 | angelina | tv is always right |
| 22:11:07 | paul__ | keep your friends close, your enemies closer still. |
| 22:11:10 | Patlabor221 | now all the women run screaming |
| 22:11:26 | paul__ | Patlabor221: that happens to you too? |
| 22:11:27 | paul__ | :) |
| 22:11:45 | jzaun | captain_proton: How long have you liked her? |
| 22:11:51 | Patlabor221 | well all except the completly undateable ones |
| 22:12:02 | Patlabor221 | they become my very close friends |
| 22:12:07 | paul__ | Patlabor221: you're doing better than me so. |
| 22:12:25 | captain_proton | jzaun: hmm.... 13 years? we've been friends a long time |
| 22:12:27 | Patlabor221 | well I've allready been maried onece |
| 22:12:29 | jzaun | Patlabor221: I have a few of them types too... would do anything in the world for them |
| 22:12:33 | paul__ | Patlabor221: congrats |
| 22:12:42 | paul__ | captain_proton: congrats too! :) |
| 22:12:42 | Patlabor221 | no it was a bad thing |
| 22:12:53 | Patlabor221 | ended horibly |
| 22:13:12 | Patlabor221 | but I got a nice picture of me in a tux outa it |
| 22:13:17 | captain_proton | probably not much can come of it - she goes back to the east coast for school in the fall, but still |
| 22:13:17 | paul__ | Patlabor221: havnt been married, but i finished up a long-term relationship a few years ago that had gone very sour. |
| 22:13:32 | jzaun | well... I'm off to the store, bbiab. captain_proton: I've opened up 5157 and 34000 on jzaun.com too.. got that world running on it now though |
| 22:13:43 | paul__ | captain_proton: there's always the internet. even better - internet2 and video conferencing! |
| 22:13:57 | captain_proton | paul__: haha :) |
| 22:14:05 | Patlabor221 | it can work |
| 22:14:12 | captain_proton | i think both our schools are on internet2 |
| 22:14:15 | paul__ | captain_proton: for research purposes obviously.. testing latency :) |
| 22:14:15 | Patlabor221 | if you like driving |
| 22:14:31 | captain_proton | paul__: of course |
| 22:14:35 | paul__ | jzaun: ask!!!! |
| 22:15:10 | paul__ | jzaun: seriously, ask.. nothing worse than looking back and not knowing. |
| 22:18:15 | paul__ | carpe el diem and all that. |
| 22:18:28 | paul__ | (and he's not here either.. ah well) |
| 22:18:34 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 22:18:36 | Patlabor221 | well he said he was leaving |
| 22:18:45 | paul__ | isnt very observant |
| 22:19:15 | angelina | is the fear of being shot down really that bad? |
| 22:19:23 | paul__ | definitely. |
| 22:19:42 | Patlabor221 | for us |
| 22:19:44 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:19:54 | Patlabor221 | almost all consuming |
| 22:20:11 | Patlabor221 | you get this nasty knot in the middle of your chest |
| 22:20:14 | angelina | really? wow...you should just say to hell with it, cos for me anyhow, if he dosnt ask...then i will move on |
| 22:20:15 | Patlabor221 | and can't swalow |
| 22:20:40 | Patlabor221 | it would be niceer if more women asked |
| 22:20:42 | paul__ | hell.. |
| 22:21:02 | angelina | yeah, but then i feel like i am too forward and stuff |
| 22:21:04 | Patlabor221 | but the world isn't realy designed to be that easy to live in |
| 22:21:16 | Patlabor221 | tust me, we don't see it that way. |
| 22:21:32 | Patlabor221 | we see it as "wow she asked me out" |
| 22:21:36 | Patlabor221 | it makes us all happy |
| 22:21:39 | paul__ | yep |
| 22:21:46 | angelina | "oh...shes all over me..she wants my hot bod" etc etc |
| 22:21:53 | paul__ | LOL |
| 22:21:58 | Patlabor221 | that's only for the pig headad bastards |
| 22:22:05 | Patlabor221 | not everyone is like that |
| 22:22:10 | paul__ | no. |
| 22:22:10 | angelina | ye, i mean thats not everyone |
| 22:22:21 | Patlabor221 | we have the same thing with being shot down |
| 22:22:32 | Patlabor221 | like she will say "as if I would go out with someone like you" |
| 22:22:45 | paul__ | and you'd seem very foolish afterwards. |
| 22:23:02 | Patlabor221 | cus after that you just have to end your life |
| 22:23:03 | angelina | no but i like being courted a little, old fashioned style, lots of girls still appreciate that... |
| 22:23:04 | paul__ | Patlabor221: or even if she doesnt say it, you'd think she was thinking it. |
| 22:23:43 | angelina | no, if i dont like him(dating wise) i will white lie...sorry..i am seeing someone else |
| 22:23:45 | paul__ | angelina: true - but even with that there has to be a point at which it begins. |
| 22:23:50 | Patlabor221 | worst thing I have is asking somone not knowing if they are allready seeing somone |
| 22:23:55 | Patlabor221 | cus that's realy embarasing |
| 22:24:08 | paul__ | Patlabor221: ah no - that's the handiest. |
| 22:24:11 | angelina | i'd never say "god no, get away from me" |
| 22:24:21 | Patlabor221 | we fear that you will |
| 22:24:23 | paul__ | worse'd be if you knew they werent and you got knocked back. |
| 22:24:32 | Patlabor221 | that and saying "are you done yet?" |
| 22:24:36 | paul__ | LOL |
| 22:24:45 | angelina | hehha |
| 22:25:05 | angelina | get off me, your crushing my smokes |
| 22:25:06 | angelina | lol |
| 22:25:08 | paul__ | also, is it just me, or is it really difficult to get to know people in this modern world? |
| 22:25:12 | Patlabor221 | the make ego pretents to be all big and imposing, but realy it's a babby kitten |
| 22:25:24 | paul__ | yep. |
| 22:25:40 | angelina | it is hard to "trust" people more it seems |
| 22:25:54 | paul__ | well, to trust people you have to get to know them. |
| 22:26:15 | paul__ | and it seems, these days, i work, i go home late, eat, internet, sleep, work etc.. |
| 22:26:25 | paul__ | socialising consists of: |
| 22:26:33 | Patlabor221 | if you say IRC |
| 22:26:36 | paul__ | - going to pub with male friends |
| 22:26:38 | paul__ | or |
| 22:26:47 | angelina | hes gonna say irc |
| 22:26:49 | paul__ | - going out with mixed company |
| 22:26:53 | Patlabor221 | he was gonna |
| 22:26:56 | angelina | phew |
| 22:27:02 | Patlabor221 | he had to change it :) |
| 22:27:03 | jacques | cool there's a decks server again! |
| 22:27:04 | paul__ | (no i'm not big into irc) |
| 22:27:23 | paul__ | (mixed company -> people i know well and their sig others) |
| 22:27:26 | angelina | paul__: mixed company is your best bet |
| 22:27:38 | Patlabor221 | no not of they are all mared/dating |
| 22:27:44 | Patlabor221 | third wheel and all |
| 22:27:44 | paul__ | no it isnt - cause they're usually work colleagues. |
| 22:27:55 | angelina | i feel comfy if the guy i am meeting knows some one i do |
| 22:28:22 | angelina | that overcomes alot of "trust" stuff |
| 22:28:30 | Patlabor221 | same for us |
| 22:28:31 | paul__ | and you /really/ dont to try something there... (going into work with a hangover and hoping to god you did nothing stupid is a nightmare :) ) |
| 22:28:58 | paul__ | yeah... but.. i dont know. busy lives. dont meet many new people. |
| 22:28:59 | angelina | been there..office party fool..so embarresing |
| 22:29:01 | Patlabor221 | well there is a solution to that, don't get druck of your ass |
| 22:29:16 | paul__ | been there too. (oh god) |
| 22:29:50 | paul__ | Patlabor221: i live in ireland - you wouldnt believe how drunk people get when the job's paying for an open bar. :) |
| 22:29:59 | paul__ | there's much worse behaved than me. :) |
| 22:30:30 | paul__ | anyway.. modern world is screwy in a way. people rushing around and missing each other. |
| 22:30:42 | Patlabor221 | well that is true, seems most of those islands there are all about the drinkin |
| 22:31:09 | paul__ | (or the denser people live together, the less they know of each other) |
| 22:31:14 | Patlabor221 | at least you don't have trailer trash |
| 22:31:36 | paul__ | we do -> itinerants / knackers (sort of gypsies) |
| 22:32:07 | paul__ | except ours move their trailers round from public green to public green and leave gigantic messes behind them. |
| 22:32:24 | Patlabor221 | ohh for ours they don't live in trailers anymore |
| 22:32:25 | paul__ | (and then wonder why a draconian anti-tresspass act was passed recently) |
| 22:32:28 | Patlabor221 | it's just a mindset |
| 22:32:35 | paul__ | we have them. |
| 22:32:41 | Patlabor221 | everyone must |
| 22:32:57 | paul__ | however, you also find the best of people amongst them. |
| 22:33:21 | paul__ | anyway.. it's a funny world. |
| 22:33:33 | Patlabor221 | now If I could just find out if the cute girl at the movie store was seeing anyone |
| 22:33:39 | paul__ | :) |
| 22:33:48 | paul__ | pah.. here's a sob story. |
| 22:33:57 | paul__ | girl i know for a long time. |
| 22:34:20 | paul__ | girl i really should have asked out a few years ago. |
| 22:34:28 | angelina | Patlabor221: this should be good...:) |
| 22:34:39 | paul__ | met her again recently, and we got on great - just as ever. |
| 22:34:53 | paul__ | and we went out and had coffee, went for drinks.. |
| 22:34:54 | Patlabor221 | this is sounding soo familiar |
| 22:34:58 | paul__ | then i found out.. |
| 22:35:04 | paul__ | she's got a boyfriend. |
| 22:35:07 | paul__ | <bugger> |
| 22:35:16 | Patlabor221 | ohh ok not that faimlair |
| 22:35:17 | paul__ | seeing her tomorrow before she goes off on hols. |
| 22:35:36 | Patlabor221 | I had the same thing up to the part about the boyfrined |
| 22:35:41 | angelina | well, sorry but you blew it |
| 22:35:44 | Patlabor221 | then was the thing with her best friend |
| 22:35:48 | angelina | you shoulda ask |
| 22:35:50 | paul__ | you look back and kick yourself sometimes for opportunities you were too foolish to see in front of you. |
| 22:35:58 | paul__ | angelina: yep. |
| 22:36:03 | angelina | rught under yer nose.. |
| 22:36:25 | Patlabor221 | see I tried when I first met her but she wasn't interested |
| 22:36:26 | paul__ | Patlabor221: how did your story end? |
| 22:36:28 | Patlabor221 | then I gave up |
| 22:36:37 | Patlabor221 | and we were jsut very good friends |
| 22:36:45 | Patlabor221 | then I meet her friend |
| 22:36:52 | Patlabor221 | and we got allong very well |
| 22:37:00 | paul__ | (oh dear...) |
| 22:37:07 | angelina | heh |
| 22:37:10 | Patlabor221 | yes then I find out that she realy did like me |
| 22:37:19 | paul__ | ah.. |
| 22:37:20 | Patlabor221 | and then she was mad at me and her friend |
| 22:37:25 | paul__ | bit of competition :) |
| 22:37:31 | paul__ | aha.. |
| 22:37:43 | Patlabor221 | so that did not go weel |
| 22:37:53 | Patlabor221 | then her friend dumped me on my birthday |
| 22:38:04 | angelina | thats just wrong |
| 22:38:05 | paul__ | and so you ended up nowhere, and not friends with the good friend anymore. |
| 22:38:11 | paul__ | lovely. |
| 22:38:17 | Patlabor221 | after she gave me my present too |
| 22:38:20 | angelina | and alone on your bday |
| 22:38:36 | Patlabor221 | well I am still decent friends with the first girl |
| 22:38:42 | Patlabor221 | but not as good as it used to be. |
| 22:38:53 | paul__ | indeed. |
| 22:39:01 | paul__ | well... here's a good one. |
| 22:39:13 | paul__ | going out 3 years with a girl. |
| 22:39:17 | paul__ | wasnt going well. |
| 22:39:25 | paul__ | so we called it a day. |
| 22:39:29 | paul__ | but still friends. |
| 22:39:43 | paul__ | still emailed each other for a good few months after. |
| 22:39:56 | paul__ | (she moved away too) |
| 22:40:08 | paul__ | then one day she says she has to phone me to tell me something. |
| 22:40:10 | paul__ | ok... |
| 22:40:14 | paul__ | i can guess... |
| 22:40:20 | paul__ | she's with another fella. |
| 22:40:32 | paul__ | fair enough. but she sound right on the phone. |
| 22:40:34 | paul__ | anyway.. |
| 22:40:38 | Patlabor221 | did you expect her to not see anyone after you? |
| 22:40:58 | paul__ | sorry - but she doesnt sound right. i can tell she's not being totally honest. |
| 22:41:04 | paul__ | no - i had no problems with that. |
| 22:41:10 | paul__ | anyway.. i start to do some checking. |
| 22:41:22 | paul__ | do some digging.. |
| 22:41:28 | paul__ | and i find out: |
| 22:41:37 | paul__ | - she's just gotten engaged. |
| 22:41:48 | paul__ | - she was with him before she broke up with me. |
| 22:42:03 | angelina | shit, thats a bmmer paul |
| 22:42:15 | Patlabor221 | verily |
| 22:42:17 | paul__ | and i find out over 6 months later. sort of turned my whole view of the breakup upside down. |
| 22:42:48 | paul__ | (esp. when on odd occasions during the 6 months she'd send emails saying she missed me, was sorry about how it all went, etc..) |
| 22:42:50 | paul__ | anyway.. |
| 22:42:50 | Patlabor221 | at least you didn't mary her and then have her go off cheating after that |
| 22:43:02 | paul__ | Patlabor221: take it that's what happened to you? |
| 22:43:05 | paul__ | but yes - good thing. |
| 22:43:10 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:43:28 | Patlabor221 | I was told flat out by her that the only reason she maried me was to get out of her parents house. |
| 22:43:38 | paul__ | Patlabor221: urgg.... i have a fair idea of what that might be like. |
| 22:43:43 | angelina | cheating is the worst..it really hurts being on the bad end of that |
| 22:43:53 | captain_proton | relationships suck |
| 22:43:55 | captain_proton | =| |
| 22:44:08 | paul__ | captain_proton: ah you stay out of this - you're happy. |
| 22:44:12 | Patlabor221 | what are you complaining about you got a date skip |
| 22:44:16 | angelina | let us wallow |
| 22:44:17 | paul__ | captain_proton: come back when you're bitter like the rest of us. :) |
| 22:44:19 | captain_proton | paul__: for the time being |
| 22:44:42 | paul__ | captain_proton: they dont suck, they just can sometimes go really wrong. |
| 22:44:58 | bzdoug | *sniff* |
| 22:45:06 | Patlabor221 | I'm just happy I can say that I don't live with my parents anymore and have a good job, unlike the rest of my siblings and people I know |
| 22:45:22 | paul__ | Patlabor221: you hadnt had kids i presume? |
| 22:45:26 | Patlabor221 | no no |
| 22:45:32 | paul__ | lucky. |
| 22:45:33 | Patlabor221 | marage was less then a year |
| 22:45:54 | paul__ | (kids are good. but kids and then a bad breakup /really/ sucks) |
| 22:46:02 | Patlabor221 | I am of the opinion that kids should not be had untill you are ready for them |
| 22:46:09 | paul__ | agreed. |
| 22:46:12 | Patlabor221 | it's better for you and them |
| 22:46:53 | Patlabor221 | so, doug have you figured out that girls arn't "icky" yet? |
| 22:46:58 | paul__ | get the relationship bit sorted out first - before you even think of kids. |
| 22:47:00 | paul__ | LOL |
| 22:47:03 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ;) |
| 22:47:24 | bzdoug | /join #dating |
| 22:47:24 | paul__ | poor doug, he gets a lot of abuse. |
| 22:47:28 | paul__ | LOL |
| 22:47:32 | paul__ | bzdating |
| 22:47:38 | bzdoug | oh |
| 22:47:39 | Patlabor221 | now that would be scary |
| 22:47:42 | bzdoug | /join #bzdating |
| 22:47:44 | jacques | ROFL |
| 22:47:46 | paul__ | fellas on the red team, girls on the green team. |
| 22:47:54 | angelina | oh lord |
| 22:48:06 | bzdoug | haha |
| 22:48:07 | paul__ | but how would you do it? |
| 22:48:17 | paul__ | lock on and if you kill them you get a date? |
| 22:48:26 | bzdoug | hrm |
| 22:48:28 | paul__ | or does the person with highest points at end of match get first pick? |
| 22:48:31 | bzdoug | king of the hill |
| 22:48:31 | paul__ | :) |
| 22:48:34 | Patlabor221 | I remember onece we were playing a hockey game against an all girl team, and one of our forwards skated back to us saying, "wow they sure smell nice" |
| 22:48:42 | paul__ | hahaaa |
| 22:48:44 | paul__ | good one. |
| 22:49:00 | paul__ | in uni, we played a 5 a side football tourney. |
| 22:49:03 | Patlabor221 | so one by one we all had to take a shift on the fornt line L( |
| 22:49:09 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: haha |
| 22:49:10 | paul__ | :) |
| 22:49:18 | Patlabor221 | they did smell nice |
| 22:49:32 | paul__ | first sniff? |
| 22:49:33 | Patlabor221 | untill third period, and we all stank |
| 22:49:45 | paul__ | refrains from fish jokes |
| 22:49:52 | angelina | now now |
| 22:49:58 | Patlabor221 | see I don't get that |
| 22:50:01 | paul__ | i said i'd refrain!! :) |
| 22:50:05 | Patlabor221 | it don't smell like fish |
| 22:50:39 | Patlabor221 | bet a bunch of 12 year old's made that up |
| 22:50:43 | paul__ | Patlabor221: it /shouldnt/ |
| 22:51:01 | paul__ | but it can, sort of, believe me. |
| 22:51:07 | angelina | oh right, like guys smell like roses |
| 22:51:14 | paul__ | actually, guys stink. |
| 22:51:18 | paul__ | literally. |
| 22:51:18 | Patlabor221 | we do |
| 22:51:24 | angelina | paul__: damn right they do |
| 22:51:26 | Patlabor221 | rreak |
| 22:51:41 | paul__ | shower - half an hour later we stink again. |
| 22:51:57 | Patlabor221 | after a hockey game I can't even stand to be in a closed room myslef |
| 22:52:39 | paul__ | but you get a shower! |
| 22:52:47 | Patlabor221 | very very first thing |
| 22:52:50 | paul__ | imagine: hot day |
| 22:52:57 | angelina | Patlabor221: i had a hocket plaer bf, he stank pretty much all the time |
| 22:53:10 | paul__ | race track. |
| 22:53:17 | paul__ | full leathers |
| 22:53:20 | Patlabor221 | yeah if you don't wash your stuff right away it premiates everyting |
| 22:53:33 | Patlabor221 | I live in a semi-arid desert, I can image an hot day |
| 22:53:51 | angelina | he used to leave the nasthockey bag in my trunk, and forget to tell me |
| 22:53:59 | Patlabor221 | ohhh no |
| 22:54:05 | angelina | nasty..man oh man |
| 22:54:09 | Patlabor221 | I have bags that have been burned |
| 22:54:10 | paul__ | after a few hours of sweating, cooling down, sweating, cooling down (all collecting in your leathers) you stink pretty badly. |
| 22:54:22 | Patlabor221 | goalie gear is simiar |
| 22:54:33 | angelina | this is a really nice convo aint it? |
| 22:54:38 | paul__ | yep!! :) |
| 22:54:56 | Patlabor221 | how did it go from asking the girl to stinking to high heaven? |
| 22:55:00 | angelina | i see toilet jokes on the horizon |
| 22:55:01 | paul__ | no idea :) |
| 22:55:15 | Patlabor221 | that is a road I shall not go down |
| 22:55:20 | paul__ | are they approaching fast? |
| 22:55:22 | angelina | anyway...paul...just ask |
| 22:55:32 | Patlabor221 | yes just ask |
| 22:55:34 | paul__ | eh? it was jzaun who had to ask, wasnt it? |
| 22:55:36 | angelina | ask her, dont be shy next time |
| 22:55:45 | Patlabor221 | you said you wanted to ask too |
| 22:55:53 | angelina | yeah but you have said complex also |
| 22:55:55 | paul__ | ah indeed. too late for me though. |
| 22:56:14 | paul__ | angelina: aye but i've been burned a few times. |
| 22:56:40 | Patlabor221 | and it'll hapen more in life, you learn to deal with it |
| 22:56:41 | paul__ | (there's another story, but we'll save that for the next BzLonelyHearts session) |
| 22:56:48 | paul__ | Patlabor221: yep. |
| 22:57:30 | jzaun | I see you all were talking about me.... |
| 22:57:34 | paul__ | anyway.. i was going to go to bed over an hour ago. |
| 22:57:39 | angelina | well...i am going to play bz a bit |
| 22:57:44 | angelina | cya guys |
| 22:57:44 | paul__ | jzaun: yeah - you set a good topic. |
| 22:57:47 | paul__ | bye |
| 22:58:00 | jzaun | long time for the topic... |
| 22:58:00 | paul__ | i'm off to bed. |
| 22:58:02 | jzaun | bye |
| 22:58:05 | paul__ | night. |
| 22:59:04 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: any luck porting that converter? |
| 22:59:12 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: haven't really looked at it |
| 22:59:17 | captain_proton | busy writing a device driver |
| 22:59:24 | Patlabor221 | good god why? |
| 22:59:32 | Nicole3 | hello |
| 22:59:34 | captain_proton | Jul 29 18:04:30 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver coffee |
| 22:59:34 | captain_proton | Jul 29 18:04:30 localhost kernel: coffee.c: USB Coffee Pot Driver v0.1 |
| 22:59:36 | Patlabor221 | arn't there people who get paied good money to do that |
| 22:59:37 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 22:59:48 | captain_proton | =} |
| 23:00:07 | Patlabor221 | and this is more important then new spiffy keen, supper tanks? |
| 23:00:41 | captain_proton | cron-job coffee? yes |
| 23:01:49 | captain_proton | actually i'm just about finished up with the driver |
| 23:02:43 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 23:02:44 | bzbot | Red: 4 players, score: 8 | Green: 4 players, score: -8 | |
| 23:03:30 | Patlabor221 | lett talk, more tank |
| 23:03:35 | Patlabor221 | less talk more tank |
| 23:07:02 | Patlabor221 | now how does the cofie pot interface to the PC? |
| 23:07:14 | Patlabor221 | and how do I get my microwave on the net |
| 23:07:27 | Patlabor221 | I want an instant message when my burritos done |
| 23:08:17 | captain_proton | well, we're doing it over USB |
| 23:08:41 | captain_proton | so you'd have a daemon (coffeed) running on the PC, which could be network-aware |
| 23:09:11 | Patlabor221 | and it what just fires it up at desired intervals? |
| 23:09:28 | captain_proton | if you want |
| 23:09:34 | Patlabor221 | anything else? |
| 23:09:34 | captain_proton | you could set up a web interface for your office |
| 23:09:36 | captain_proton | cup-on-demand |
| 23:10:00 | Patlabor221 | wow that must be for the lasyest people on the planet :) |
| 23:10:01 | captain_proton | if we get all the servo stuff figured out it would swap out filters & replenish water & grinds |
| 23:10:15 | Widget | How do you get a microwave to interface via USB? |
| 23:10:28 | Patlabor221 | no microwave must be 10 base T |
| 23:10:31 | Widget | Or coffee machine, or whatever. |
| 23:10:37 | doughecka | ack |
| 23:10:40 | captain_proton | Widget: build control circuitry |
| 23:10:40 | doughecka | a storm is coming |
| 23:10:45 | doughecka | http://www.weather.com/weather/local/40272?whatprefs= |
| 23:10:47 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:10:52 | doughecka | nice and fast wind here |
| 23:10:58 | doughecka | time to shutdown the dsl... |
| 23:11:01 | Patlabor221 | what is weather? |
| 23:11:13 | doughecka | so we have no ZAP, then "no!!!!" |
| 23:11:17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: its that stuff in bzflag that uses particle systems |
| 23:11:24 | doughecka | uhuh |
| 23:11:34 | Patlabor221 | why can't he just turn it off |
| 23:11:39 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 23:11:48 | captain_proton | don't know why he'd have to shut off his DSL for it either |
| 23:11:59 | doughecka | brb |
| 23:12:43 | Patlabor221 | if he's shuting off the DSL how is he still here |
| 23:13:21 | Patlabor221 | now I could yse my lego mindstorms to work the mocrowave |
| 23:14:31 | captain_proton | it looks like the friends i'm doing this coffee pot with and I might have somewhat of a niche business |
| 23:14:36 | captain_proton | linuxatin' appliances |
| 23:15:11 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:15:24 | doughecka | captain_proton: dsl dont work too well with lighting |
| 23:15:31 | doughecka | oooohh |
| 23:15:35 | doughecka | tornado weather |
| 23:15:35 | captain_proton | your bzflag has lightning! |
| 23:15:37 | doughecka | cool |
| 23:15:50 | doughecka | captain_proton: expensive lighting.. |
| 23:16:31 | Patlabor221 | does the lightning cause too much latency |
| 23:16:42 | Patlabor221 | or upstream bandwiht usage? |
| 23:17:20 | Patlabor221 | sounds like you need a T1 or better for lightning |
| 23:17:31 | doughecka | how about underground ATM? |
| 23:17:44 | doughecka | ok |
| 23:17:50 | Patlabor221 | OC48 |
| 23:17:53 | doughecka | countdown until dsl is down... |
| 23:17:59 | doughecka | 5 min |
| 23:18:04 | doughecka | OC48? |
| 23:18:07 | doughecka | sounds fast |
| 23:18:09 | Patlabor221 | then what do you do, just play local? |
| 23:18:17 | Patlabor221 | or lan only |
| 23:18:24 | doughecka | Patlabor221: I am not addicted to bzflag like you are... |
| 23:18:26 | doughecka | ;) |
| 23:18:35 | Patlabor221 | pardon. |
| 23:18:38 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:18:40 | Patlabor221 | I don't even play |
| 23:18:52 | doughecka | I am taking pictures of laptops to sell on ebay |
| 23:18:54 | Patlabor221 | I just sit here and bitch about stuff |
| 23:18:57 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:19:02 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:19:07 | doughecka | and do all the hard programming |
| 23:19:13 | doughecka | while captain_proton plays |
| 23:19:14 | Patlabor221 | I'm serious |
| 23:19:19 | Patlabor221 | cap can vouch for that |
| 23:19:41 | Patlabor221 | no I just write easy stuff like converters |
| 23:19:46 | Patlabor221 | and editors |
| 23:19:48 | captain_proton | bwahahahaha |
| 23:19:49 | doughecka | ah, I see |
| 23:19:59 | doughecka | captain_proton gets all ythe glory |
| 23:20:01 | Patlabor221 | and I can talk the talk |
| 23:20:08 | doughecka | and talk |
| 23:20:19 | Patlabor221 | I'm the bets liar in the entire world |
| 23:20:31 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:20:32 | Patlabor221 | I'm realy an 18 year old girl |
| 23:20:41 | Patlabor221 | who does porn shoots |
| 23:20:57 | doughecka | uhuh |
| 23:20:59 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:21:13 | Patlabor221 | ohh no can't talk about porn, or your state will sue me |
| 23:21:20 | doughecka | cool, I see sky east, and west of me, but a black spot above me |
| 23:21:27 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ooh, i think i've got some of your photos here on my desktop... |
| 23:21:36 | Patlabor221 | damn right you do hot stuff |
| 23:22:19 | | *You* are, Mr Sexy-pants! |
| 23:22:19 | Patlabor221 | ibot: who is your daddy? |
| 23:22:26 | Patlabor221 | see even Igot knows |
| 23:23:08 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:23:08 | | *You* are, Mr Sexy-pants! |
| 23:23:08 | doughecka | ibot who is your daddy? |
| 23:23:08 | | *You* are, Mr Sexy-pants! |
| 23:23:08 | doughecka | ibot: who is your daddy? |
| 23:23:13 | doughecka | bah |
| 23:23:15 | doughecka | he rigged it up |
| 23:23:19 | doughecka | lier |
| 23:23:21 | doughecka | oh |
| 23:23:25 | doughecka | slow, AND dumb robot |
| 23:23:26 | Patlabor221 | aww crap now your state is going to sue ibot |
| 23:23:34 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:24:11 | Patlabor221 | there found my hover tank |
| 23:24:15 | Patlabor221 | now to just model it |
| 23:24:20 | doughecka | ??? |
| 23:24:23 | doughecka | for bzflag? |
| 23:24:28 | Patlabor221 | mmmmmmm |
| 23:24:31 | Patlabor221 | not exactly |
| 23:24:37 | doughecka | captain_proton: what is FS? |
| 23:24:55 | doughecka | I hear it talked about... |
| 23:25:02 | Patlabor221 | there will be BZ's and flags |
| 23:25:09 | captain_proton | doughecka: the flag? |
| 23:25:10 | Patlabor221 | but not nesisaraly at the same time |
| 23:25:24 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:25:26 | doughecka | dunno |
| 23:25:30 | doughecka | I guess.... |
| 23:25:34 | doughecka | the flyswatter? |
| 23:25:39 | captain_proton | yea |
| 23:25:40 | doughecka | hwo would that work? |
| 23:25:45 | captain_proton | swat! |
| 23:25:45 | doughecka | I would like a airstrike |
| 23:25:51 | doughecka | like P2501 |
| 23:25:55 | Patlabor221 | swat = boom right? |
| 23:26:03 | Patlabor221 | he got that from treadmarks |
| 23:26:06 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah, swat tanks, bullets |
| 23:26:10 | doughecka | swat = squish |
| 23:29:12 | Patlabor221 | tanks being made out of titaniam reinfoced steel alloy would proalby not go squish |
| 23:29:26 | Patlabor221 | I don't think they have a fairly high flud content |
| 23:29:38 | Patlabor221 | perhaps a crush |
| 23:29:43 | Patlabor221 | or crunch |
| 23:29:56 | Patlabor221 | or scraping sound at the most |
| 23:30:12 | Patlabor221 | and why are you stil here? |
| 23:31:44 | Patlabor221 | DSL get a repreive? |
| 23:36:43 | doughecka | nope |
| 23:36:44 | doughecka | ;) |
| 23:36:50 | doughecka | storm passed by |
| 23:37:31 | Patlabor221 | do you know what repreive means? |
| 23:37:38 | captain_proton | haha |
| 23:39:11 | Patlabor221 | I think every game needs somethign called a "valliant class strike carrier" |
| 23:39:19 | Patlabor221 | it just has a nice ring to it |
| 23:39:26 | Oooo0 | hola amigos! |
| 23:39:55 | Patlabor221 | hello, person who's name is made up of various sized rings |
| 23:40:07 | Widget | hihihi, Oooo0. |
| 23:40:17 | Oooo0 | funny Pat' |
| 23:40:18 | captain_proton | Oooo0: did akira show you his link? |
| 23:40:41 | Oooo0 | Cap Pro: link? http link? to what? |
| 23:40:45 | Patlabor221 | wow, a link, on the first date even, you 2 must be hitting it off |
| 23:40:47 | captain_proton | http://fotm.rotten.com/fotm/breakfast.html |
| 23:41:19 | Oooo0 | funny... |
| 23:41:21 | Oooo0 | i |
| 23:41:25 | Patlabor221 | well I'm ogg |
| 23:41:28 | Patlabor221 | off even |
| 23:41:28 | Oooo0 | i've seen that one before |
| 23:41:32 | Oooo0 | ciao |
| 23:41:38 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: vorbis! |
| 23:41:40 | Patlabor221 | time to go play the geekiest game in the known universe |
| 23:41:47 | doughecka | and that is... |
| 23:41:48 | captain_proton | zork! |
| 23:41:52 | Patlabor221 | close |
| 23:41:57 | Patlabor221 | not even on a computer |
| 23:42:03 | jacques | D&D |
| 23:42:08 | Patlabor221 | bingo |
| 23:42:28 | Patlabor221 | time to go pretend to be a 2'10" theif |
| 23:42:37 | doughecka | ugh |
| 23:42:38 | jacques | :-) |
| 23:42:55 | Patlabor221 | doughecka: you makin fun of my halfling? |
| 23:43:54 | Patlabor221 | WTF |
| 23:44:11 | Patlabor221 | sometimes I have X chat |
| 23:44:13 | Patlabor221 | see ya all |
