| 00:06:35 | captain_proton | Doughecka: am now |
| 00:21:25 | Widget | Huh? |
| 00:21:34 | Widget | captain_proton: I was playing ducati |
| 00:21:46 | Widget | captain_proton: Want to play decks? jzaun.com? |
| 00:22:01 | captain_proton | Widget: well, i just was, but sure |
| 00:23:59 | captain_proton | Widget: coming? |
| 00:25:55 | BzAce | hey |
| 00:25:57 | Widget | captain_proton: OK. |
| 00:26:17 | Widget | captain_proton: I see you not. |
| 00:26:19 | Widget | Hi, bzAce. |
| 00:26:29 | Widget | captain_proton: You weren't there! |
| 00:27:20 | captain_proton | Widget: i'm there now |
| 00:31:29 | bzAce | is otherwise known as Ace |
| 00:51:15 | Widget | I guesses. |
| 00:51:17 | Widget | Guessed. |
| 00:51:32 | jpablo | what's up Widget? |
| 00:51:39 | jpablo | seen my desktop http://people.gnulinux.org.mx/jpablo/stuff/mydesktop4.png ? |
| 00:51:49 | Widget | jpablo: captain_proton wants to change the league to include (shudder) decks and stuff! |
| 00:52:07 | captain_proton | Widget: i'm saying its possible |
| 00:52:08 | jpablo | oh, Bad Thing(tm) :-P |
| 00:52:29 | Widget | Why are the icons so big? |
| 00:52:32 | Widget | Espcially trash? |
| 00:52:48 | captain_proton | jpablo: gnome2? |
| 00:52:54 | jpablo | captain_proton: yeah. |
| 00:53:06 | jpablo | Widget: cause i like my Trash :). |
| 00:53:18 | captain_proton | what gtk theme is that? it looks thinicy |
| 00:53:32 | Widget | Is that Nautilus? |
| 00:53:56 | captain_proton | Widget: yes |
| 00:54:19 | jpablo | cleannce2. |
| 00:54:23 | jpablo | captain_proton: cleanice2. |
| 00:56:01 | jpablo | i got if from apt-get ... |
| 00:56:15 | Widget | Wow.... you certainly have a lot of anime. |
| 00:56:22 | Widget | captain_proton uses LFS. |
| 00:56:36 | jpablo | Widget: and that's not all. |
| 00:56:50 | Widget | jpablo: Oh. |
| 00:56:55 | captain_proton | attempts to fix the goofy texture coords |
| 00:57:08 | captain_proton | jpablo: hmm - i'll look for it on sunshineinabag |
| 00:57:20 | Widget | The other pictures don't look as nice. |
| 00:57:55 | jpablo | captain_proton: ok. |
| 00:58:16 | jpablo | Widget: what other pictures ? |
| 00:58:29 | Widget | jpablo: mydesktop.png, mydesktop2.png, etc. |
| 00:59:31 | jpablo | yeah, my desktop is envolving :). |
| 00:59:47 | Widget | http://www.lucidus.uklinux.net/gtk/aquax-screenshot.jpg |
| 00:59:51 | Widget | I like the panel buttons there. |
| 01:00:10 | Widget | The Aqua like buttons look horrible, but the jeweled icons on the left part of the panel. |
| 01:01:28 | jpablo | humm, looks good. |
| 01:01:38 | jpablo | no really for me :-P |
| 01:02:03 | Widget | But the desktops pictured in http://www.kde-look.org/ look better. :) |
| 01:02:30 | jpablo | bah. |
| 01:02:49 | Widget | http://www.lucidus.uklinux.net/metathemes/adept.jpg |
| 01:02:52 | Widget | I like this one the best. |
| 01:02:55 | Widget | Of the Gnome themes. |
| 01:03:02 | captain_proton | i don't understand this whole fascination with panels and such |
| 01:03:20 | Widget | I don't have a panel. I have a dock. :) |
| 01:03:30 | bzAce | http://www.liquid2k.com/misterdan/madcity.jpg |
| 01:03:31 | bzAce | :) |
| 01:03:41 | jpablo | captain_proton: where else can i run wanda the fish !? |
| 01:03:50 | bzAce | that's why i hate playing madcity... |
| 01:04:13 | captain_proton | eeks at no gamma correction |
| 01:04:44 | Widget | http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=2489-1.jpg |
| 01:04:49 | Widget | My God. Someone running KDE under OS X. |
| 01:05:01 | bzAce | captain.. that was right after i had died. .the screen was dark cause of that |
| 01:05:19 | bzAce | plus jpeg compression kinda changed it.. |
| 01:05:34 | captain_proton | bzAce: plus no gamma |
| 01:05:40 | jpablo | needs a thank icon for bzflag. |
| 01:05:52 | Widget | http://www.kde-look.org/content/files/2482-gentoo.png |
| 01:05:55 | Widget | Ooh, that looks cool. |
| 01:06:45 | jpablo | let's see. |
| 01:07:53 | captain_proton | Widget: not really |
| 01:08:02 | Widget | captain_proton: It's a matter of taste. |
| 01:08:05 | Widget | captain_proton: I like it. |
| 01:08:27 | jpablo | yeah, i don't really like it either. |
| 01:08:44 | captain_proton | i like my desktop to look clean and sleek |
| 01:08:46 | captain_proton | not bubbly |
| 01:09:01 | Widget | captain_proton: Do you succeed in either? :) |
| 01:09:07 | captain_proton | Widget: both |
| 01:09:17 | Widget | I wish the panel there weren't so violently blue. |
| 01:09:34 | captain_proton | haha |
| 01:09:36 | captain_proton | gkrellm on top of kde |
| 01:09:44 | Widget | Oh, yes. I don't like that either. |
| 01:09:53 | jpablo | 'Mac OS X: your bubbly desktop'. |
| 01:10:20 | Widget | They have GTK themes on KDE-Look.org. |
| 01:10:23 | captain_proton | jpablo: ;) |
| 01:11:18 | Widget | captain_proton: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=1444-1.png You might like this better. |
| 01:11:19 | Widget | captain_proton: No panel. |
| 01:11:25 | Widget | captain_proton: And nothing "bubbly". |
| 01:12:46 | jpablo | wow, thoses usa folders are ugly :-P |
| 01:13:01 | Widget | jpablo: Replace them. |
| 01:13:09 | Widget | jpablo: Someone ported Gnome's gorilla over. |
| 01:13:41 | jpablo | Gorila to kde ? |
| 01:13:59 | captain_proton | Widget: somewhat nicer |
| 01:14:07 | jpablo | i don't really like gorila, but i like that scalable icons idea. |
| 01:14:08 | Widget | jpablo: Yes. |
| 01:14:22 | captain_proton | gorila is the svg theme? |
| 01:14:29 | jpablo | captain_proton: yeah. |
| 01:14:53 | captain_proton | ximian's got a cool lead artist |
| 01:15:07 | captain_proton | he wrote a tutorial on creating gnomish icons |
| 01:15:32 | jpablo | who, tigert or jimmac ? |
| 01:15:38 | captain_proton | jimmac i think |
| 01:16:14 | jpablo | yeah, jimmac work is beating tigert :). |
| 01:18:34 | jpablo | captain_proton: show a ss of your desktop. |
| 01:19:55 | captain_proton | with or without apps open? |
| 01:20:17 | Widget | With. |
| 01:20:20 | Widget | Last one was without. |
| 01:20:50 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/screenie2.png |
| 01:23:16 | jpablo | nice, what is the thing drawing the icons ? |
| 01:23:21 | jpablo | nautilus ? |
| 01:25:25 | captain_proton | daseine |
| 01:25:36 | captain_proton | draws the background and those monitors lower right too |
| 01:26:03 | Widget | Why is glade giving errors? |
| 01:26:12 | jpablo | oh. |
| 01:26:25 | captain_proton | Widget: because i took the screenshot whilst in the process of setting up gnome2 |
| 01:26:33 | captain_proton | all of those have since been fixed |
| 01:26:38 | jpablo | also Gnumeric r0cks :). |
| 01:27:43 | captain_proton | boggles |
| 01:27:48 | captain_proton | why are these texcoords sooo screwed up? |
| 01:30:08 | captain_proton | ooh, think i may have found the culprit |
| 01:32:45 | captain_proton | woo |
| 01:32:56 | Widget | Woowoo. |
| 01:38:18 | jpablo | i'm off. |
| 01:38:27 | captain_proton | see yas |
| 02:27:37 | Widget | captain_proton: Do you have/use Gaim? |
| 02:27:44 | captain_proton | yes |
| 02:28:22 | Widget | Do you have an ICQ UIN? |
| 02:28:37 | captain_proton | yeah, but i don't use it |
| 02:28:41 | Widget | Oh. |
| 02:28:45 | Widget | A Jabber sn, then? |
| 02:29:17 | captain_proton | nono jabber sucks |
| 02:29:25 | Widget | Jabber is wonderful. |
| 02:29:52 | captain_proton | you wouldn't say that if you had seen the BOF meeting on it at the ietf |
| 02:31:15 | Widget | So what protocol _do_ you use? |
| 02:34:28 | captain_proton | <Widget> captain_proton: Do you have/use Gaim? |
| 02:34:28 | captain_proton | <captain_proton> yes |
| 02:35:03 | Widget | So which protocols? |
| 02:35:18 | captain_proton | aim] |
| 02:35:39 | Widget | OK. That wasn't obvious. |
| 03:20:07 | captain_proton | tim! |
| 03:22:08 | captain_proton | sup |
| 03:33:56 | BZFlag | hanging |
| 03:34:44 | captain_proton | coo' |
| 03:34:51 | captain_proton | there was something i wanted to ask you but i have no clue what it was |
| 03:35:17 | BZFlag | bummer. 1.7e6 did not make the cut for debian 3.0 |
| 03:35:31 | BZFlag | the answer must be "no" then. ;-) |
| 03:35:34 | captain_proton | debian has releases? |
| 03:35:56 | BZFlag | yeah. 3.0 released yesterday. woody is now "stable" |
| 03:36:35 | captain_proton | whoa. and here i was thinking that debian was just some ephemeral mess of packages |
| 03:38:32 | Widget | BZFlag: Are you really Bill Gates? |
| 03:39:15 | BZFlag | Widget: just a poor relative. |
| 03:39:33 | captain_proton | evil twin? |
| 03:39:47 | Widget | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/Bill-Tim.jpg |
| 03:39:50 | Widget | You be the judge. |
| 03:39:53 | BZFlag | captain_proton: was stable=potato,testing=woody,unstable=sid |
| 03:40:04 | Widget | Sid is always unstable. |
| 03:40:12 | BZFlag | captain_proton: now it's stable=woody,testing=sarge,unstable=sid |
| 03:41:22 | captain_proton | BZFlag: oh, looks like there's a good number of people who want to kill jabber too |
| 03:41:29 | iLL_Away | huh? |
| 03:41:32 | iLL_Away | whats sarge? |
| 03:41:40 | Widget | The new testing dist. |
| 03:41:48 | BZFlag | iLLf8d: sarge is the new testing dist. |
| 03:41:52 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 03:41:58 | iLLf8d | so woodys out? |
| 03:42:13 | iLLf8d | doesn't know why deb stays so behind the times with their shit |
| 03:42:13 | BZFlag | captain_proton: yeah a meta im standard seems like a Bad Thing. |
| 03:42:19 | BZFlag | iLLf8d: yesterday |
| 03:42:23 | Widget | On discovering that the testing distribution would be code-named "sarge" after the release of woody, Josip Rodin [*] contributed these technical details: |
| 03:42:28 | captain_proton | BZFlag: most of them use the excuse that its just duplicating work being done in impp |
| 03:42:29 | Widget | characters not used from Toy Story (yet): |
| 03:42:35 | iLLf8d | you always gotta run testing to get the new packages |
| 03:42:37 | Widget | The Green Plastic Army Men |
| 03:42:37 | Widget | Andy (the kid) |
| 03:42:37 | Widget | Draw (the blackboard), or was it Esck? |
| 03:42:37 | Widget | Snake |
| 03:42:37 | Widget | Robot |
| 03:42:38 | Widget | Scud (Sid's dog) |
| 03:42:46 | Widget | and additional characters from Toy Story 2, also not yet used: |
| 03:42:53 | Widget | Jessie (the Yodelling Cowgirl) |
| 03:42:53 | Widget | Zurg (the Emperor) |
| 03:42:53 | Widget | Wheezy (the penguin) |
| 03:42:53 | Widget | Hannah (owner of Jessie) |
| 03:42:53 | Widget | Stinky Pete the Prospector (the old fat guy) |
| 03:42:54 | Widget | Mrs. Davis (Andy's Mom) |
| 03:42:56 | Widget | Sarge |
| 03:42:58 | Widget | Barbie |
| 03:43:10 | iLLf8d | zurg would be a cool release name |
| 03:43:11 | Widget | I bet andy will be the next testing. |
| 03:43:11 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 03:43:29 | Widget | Yes, zurg would make Debian a lot more popular. |
| 03:43:33 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 03:44:32 | BZFlag | I'll put in my vote for zurg ;-) |
| 03:44:38 | iLLf8d | that or buzz |
| 03:45:10 | iLLf8d | who came up with sarge anyway |
| 03:45:48 | BZFlag | I've not been on debian-public lately. I would guess there was some discussion there. |
| 03:46:28 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 03:46:51 | iLLf8d | got any idea why they don't bother making newer isos? |
| 03:47:06 | BZFlag | buzz was used. |
| 03:47:10 | iLLf8d | seems like everyone I try to get to try debian installs this sorry ass old shit |
| 03:47:28 | iLLf8d | then they get all pissy when I tellem to role it up to testing |
| 03:47:42 | iLLf8d | or when I tellem to install the base then jump to testing right away |
| 03:47:50 | BZFlag | iLLf8d: feel free to join in and help out. |
| 03:47:51 | iLLf8d | they're all like shit'll break blah blah |
| 03:48:04 | BZFlag | lives on unstable. |
| 03:48:17 | iLLf8d | unstable or testing? |
| 03:48:21 | iLLf8d | I was sid before |
| 03:48:29 | captain_proton | ponders |
| 03:48:32 | iLLf8d | tho I deuced it out gotta resintall |
| 03:48:40 | iLLf8d | running gentoo atm |
| 03:52:26 | captain_proton | BZFlag: could you look up the people who have thus far subscribed to bzflag-league for me? |
| 03:55:10 | BZFlag | captain_proton: I thought I left the list open so subscribers could get the list? |
| 03:55:30 | captain_proton | BZFlag: not in mailman - lemme try through majordomo |
| 03:57:01 | captain_proton | oh whoop |
| 03:57:06 | captain_proton | it is available to subscribers |
| 03:57:26 | BZFlag | not very long so far. :-/ |
| 03:57:33 | captain_proton | no |
| 03:57:36 | captain_proton | just me and the archiver |
| 03:58:19 | Widget | captain_proton: What you need is advertising. |
| 03:58:27 | captain_proton | Widget: i spammed bzflag-dev and bzflag-users |
| 03:58:53 | captain_proton | an ad on the league site would probably be in order |
| 03:58:57 | Widget | captain_proton: Spam the EZBoard and the league board too. |
| 03:59:00 | Widget | captain_proton: Yes. |
| 04:01:05 | captain_proton | the league needs a poll system |
| 04:01:10 | captain_proton | specifically for the art contest |
| 04:01:33 | Widget | captain_proton: BZMessage Valoche. |
| 04:09:14 | Widget | BZFlag: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/lub2.jpg |
| 04:09:21 | Widget | BZFlag: Guess who that person is. |
| 04:11:22 | iLL_Afk | art contest for what? |
| 04:11:40 | Widget | iLL_Afk: Do you know who this person is? http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/lub2.jpg |
| 04:11:44 | Widget | iLL_Afk: Team logos. |
| 04:11:50 | captain_proton | iLL_Afk: no, not team logos |
| 04:11:51 | captain_proton | t-shirts |
| 04:11:53 | iLL_Afk | i'm guessing its cell |
| 04:11:55 | Widget | Oh. |
| 04:11:57 | Widget | Ignore me. |
| 04:11:58 | iLL_Afk | considering its his site |
| 04:12:03 | Widget | iLL_Afk: Oh. Yes. |
| 04:12:08 | Widget | iLL_Afk: That is true. |
| 04:12:21 | iLL_Afk | tshirts hmm |
| 04:12:45 | iLL_Afk | submits his we don't need no stinkin flags jumping or new code |
| 04:12:50 | captain_proton | way to make open-source profitable: give away the game, sell the shirts ;) |
| 04:12:58 | iLL_Afk | why make it fun |
| 04:13:08 | captain_proton | thinkgeek is rolling in it |
| 04:13:15 | Widget | iLL_Afk: That's my line. |
| 04:13:21 | iLL_Afk | or maybe bzflag opensource closed minds |
| 04:13:28 | iLL_Afk | heh |
| 04:13:30 | iLL_Afk | or perhaps |
| 04:13:34 | Widget | laughs! |
| 04:13:42 | iLL_Afk | bzflag where the cheaters roam free |
| 04:13:49 | captain_proton | iLL_Afk: have you ever submitted code that was rejected? no. |
| 04:14:20 | iLL_Afk | bzflag sarcasm as thick as it gets, wade through it try to shake it off your boots, man these tanks smell like shit |
| 04:14:36 | iLL_Afk | heh |
| 04:15:17 | captain_proton | i like tad's "the new iTank" but apple wouldn't let us do that |
| 04:15:52 | Widget | Hehe, yes. That was interesting. |
| 04:15:55 | iLL_Afk | tanks are dabomb |
| 04:16:09 | Widget | But how could they raise trouble for "The new iTank"? |
| 04:16:19 | captain_proton | the execution sucked but the concept was cool |
| 04:16:32 | captain_proton | Widget: because they can say they do the whole iMac, iBook thing |
| 04:16:38 | iLL_Afk | I think apple owns all the vowels |
| 04:16:46 | captain_proton | "The new iMac" was a BIG tagline for them |
| 04:16:49 | Widget | captain_proton: So? Then iLL_Afk is infringing on copyright. |
| 04:16:56 | iLL_Afk | you have to type in consonates now |
| 04:16:59 | Widget | The new iLLf8d |
| 04:17:05 | iLL_Afk | LLf8d =) |
| 04:17:21 | iLL_Afk | [mq] tnknstn |
| 04:17:37 | captain_proton | and Widget: |
| 04:17:39 | Widget | cptn_prtn |
| 04:17:42 | captain_proton | apple has more lawyers than you do |
| 04:17:52 | Widget | Well, they won't be suing me. |
| 04:17:54 | Widget | So I don't care. |
| 04:18:25 | captain_proton | hah |
| 04:19:17 | Widget | Wenn ihr gegen die ZeeBrothers antreten wollt .. Mail an FantaZee! |
| 04:19:56 | Widget | hihihi, Patlabor221. |
| 04:19:59 | Patlabor221 | hi |
| 04:20:48 | captain_proton | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 04:20:54 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 04:21:22 | Widget | Is "lo" meant to be the opposite of "hi"? |
| 04:21:35 | captain_proton | perhaps |
| 04:21:52 | Patlabor221 | and why not "mid" |
| 04:22:09 | Widget | GUGL MTY has a cute icon. |
| 04:22:13 | captain_proton | because 'mid' can't be mangled into a greeting |
| 04:22:17 | Widget | http://www.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=teaminfo&id=23&sessionid=284fcdd16ce8f491d53f8531d2b30a2e |
| 04:22:25 | Widget | Grupo de Usuarios de GNU/Linux de Monterrey |
| 04:23:04 | Widget | I wonder who designed it. |
| 04:24:57 | captain_proton | damn |
| 04:25:03 | captain_proton | i seem to have lost my ezboard account |
| 04:25:25 | Widget | Pobrecito. |
| 04:26:39 | Widget | iLL_Afk: Still here? |
| 04:27:16 | captain_proton | i don't want to have to create an account just to spam them |
| 04:27:35 | Widget | Are you trying to drop a hint? |
| 04:27:49 | Widget | "GIVE ME YOUR EZBOARD ACCOUNTS NOW, YOU PATHETIC FOOLS!" |
| 04:28:06 | captain_proton | "POST FOR ME NOW, YOU PATHETIC FOOLS!" |
| 04:28:33 | Widget | Nah. |
| 04:30:07 | Widget | Sigh. |
| 04:30:17 | Widget | I've got monomaniacal friends. |
| 04:30:56 | Patlabor221 | I've not nonmagical friends. |
| 04:30:58 | Widget | (17:33:54) Me: hihihihihi |
| 04:30:59 | Widget | (17:34:04) Allen Han: want to play? |
| 04:30:59 | Widget | (17:34:16) Me: NO!!!!! GET OFF YOUR SINGLE MINDED PURSUIT OF GO!!!!!!!! |
| 04:30:59 | Widget | (17:34:23) Allen Han: *sigh* |
| 04:31:43 | Widget | This scene has repeated itself several times during the day. |
| 04:31:51 | captain_proton | haha |
| 04:32:37 | iLL_Afk | me? |
| 04:32:41 | Widget | iLL_Afk: You. |
| 04:32:44 | Widget | iLL_Afk: Let's play ducati. |
| 04:32:46 | iLL_Afk | what |
| 04:33:02 | iLL_Afk | ok |
| 04:33:09 | Widget | See you there. |
| 04:33:51 | Widget | You're not there! |
| 04:34:22 | Widget | ? |
| 04:35:20 | Widget | iLL_Afk: Hellooooo? |
| 04:39:18 | BZFlag | Widget: I love those short urls |
| 04:41:59 | ski | hi all |
| 05:25:13 | BZFlag | http://www.linuxjournal.com/rc2002 <- vote now! |
| 05:25:33 | captain_proton | voted |
| 05:26:21 | BZFlag | sweet. |
| 05:26:32 | captain_proton | hmm: opinion on this: |
| 05:26:47 | captain_proton | should bzfs config be xml or more of an apacheish thing? |
| 05:26:53 | captain_proton | name value |
| 05:28:00 | BZFlag | bzdb is not heirarchtical [sp?] so name value would be better imho. |
| 05:28:12 | captain_proton | gotcha |
| 05:28:22 | BZFlag | or perhaps we think bzdb will be enhanced at some point so it can be? |
| 05:28:32 | captain_proton | doubt it |
| 05:28:37 | BZFlag | me too. |
| 05:28:44 | captain_proton | i think expressions will be as 'hierarchal' as it'll get |
| 05:29:09 | BZFlag | on the other hand, we have an xml parser... |
| 05:29:31 | captain_proton | thats why i was wondering |
| 05:30:19 | BZFlag | simple xml might make sense. I'm not too concerned. ask crs if he has an opinion. |
| 05:35:07 | Widget | Hm. |
| 05:50:24 | captain_proton | does +f good -f bad seem kinda backwards to anyone else? |
| 05:51:04 | captain_proton | in that -f GM prevents GM from popping in, but -f WA -makes- it pop in? |
| 06:06:13 | BZFlag | captain_proton: huh? +f WA should make if pop in, no? |
| 06:09:33 | captain_proton | well |
| 06:09:35 | captain_proton | +f bad |
| 06:09:42 | captain_proton | explain that ;) |
| 06:18:42 | BZFlag | hmm.. +f bad does not giv you a map with all the bad flags? |
| 06:18:57 | captain_proton | -f bad adds all the bad flags |
| 06:19:01 | captain_proton | i have no clue what +f bad does |
| 06:20:25 | BZFlag | hmm. not valid. I think it _should_ give you a map with just bad flags. ;-) |
| 06:21:03 | captain_proton | yes |
| 06:21:06 | captain_proton | but instead its -f bad |
| 06:24:09 | BZFlag | -f bad removes bad flags, no? |
| 06:25:12 | BZFlag | yeah, -f bad is only effective with -s or +s |
| 07:06:59 | iLL_Afk | night all |
| 07:18:18 | Widget | Good evening, pragma. |
| 07:18:37 | pragma | Hi, Widget |
| 07:22:52 | Widget | In Mexico it must now be past midning. |
| 07:22:55 | Widget | pragma: Go to bed! |
| 07:23:02 | Widget | Midnight. |
| 07:27:21 | Widget | México? |
| 07:27:28 | Widget | Méjico? |
| 07:27:41 | pragma | lol, actually its 3:30 am... but I guess U know how the Geek life is =) |
| 07:28:25 | Widget | http://www.artemisgames.com/bz/people/ |
| 07:28:39 | Widget | Go find a picture and email it to Patlabor221, so he can add you up. |
| 07:29:27 | pragma | lol jpablo... |
| 07:30:12 | Widget | You have to change the gnulunux in he URL to gnulinux. |
| 07:30:17 | Widget | Patlabor221 made a mistake. |
| 07:30:20 | pragma | pat... is jeffm@gibbscam.com? |
| 07:30:28 | Widget | Yes. |
| 07:30:33 | Widget | http://people.gnulinux.org.mx/jpablo/stuff/grenudo-loco.png |
| 07:30:57 | Widget | I think. |
| 07:31:15 | Widget | So where do you have your picture? On the web? |
| 07:32:08 | pragma | noup... nowhere... in the computer at my house... |
| 07:32:19 | pragma | but |
| 07:32:29 | | i heard But was anyone working on these ipaq distros a debian developer? |
| 07:32:29 | Widget | But? |
| 07:32:34 | pragma | ill send him the picture so he can add me... |
| 07:32:36 | | Widget: I forgot but |
| 07:32:36 | Widget | ibot: forget but |
| 07:34:00 | pragma | You signing in there as well? |
| 07:34:07 | Widget | Maybe. |
| 07:34:11 | Widget | Then again, maybe not. |
| 07:34:14 | Widget | I scanned in a picture. |
| 07:34:27 | Widget | However, I am hamletting as to whether or not to give it to Patlabor221. |
| 07:34:47 | captain_proton | Widget: you can't fucking heckle people to submit their pictures if you don't fucking submit your own |
| 07:35:02 | Widget | captain_proton: I never asked him to submit it. |
| 07:35:07 | Widget | captain_proton: Well.. I did. |
| 07:35:23 | Widget | captain_proton: But seeing it is enough, and I showed you my picture. |
| 07:35:25 | Widget | captain_proton: So there. |
| 07:35:27 | captain_proton | <Widget> Go find a picture and email it to Patlabor221, so he can add you up. |
| 07:35:43 | Widget | captain_proton: OK. But.... |
| 07:35:47 | Widget | captain_proton: <captain_proton> Widget: you can't fucking heckle people to submit their pictures if you don't fucking submit your own |
| 07:35:49 | Widget | captain_proton: I can so. |
| 07:35:57 | captain_proton | Widget: everyone else puts up their photo for the world to see, but only a couple people get to see yours? |
| 07:36:05 | Widget | captain_proton: I can. |
| 09:09:06 | akira_ | abnd |
| 09:23:45 | akira_ | moin |
| 09:23:47 | arathorn | hi all |
| 09:25:01 | arathorn | ibot.seen almogaver |
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| 09:25:16 | arathorn | ibot:seen almogaver |
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| 09:25:43 | arathorn | ibot:seen t-34 |
| 09:26:13 | arathorn | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:26:15 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 09:26:38 | akira_ | wanne play he? |
| 09:26:39 | arathorn | any here want go on ducati? |
| 09:26:46 | arathorn | :))) |
| 09:26:46 | akira_ | me not |
| 09:26:51 | akira_ | i am at home |
| 09:26:52 | arathorn | :(((( |
| 09:27:14 | akira_ | perhaps later the storm is over and the rain is gone and i finished to paint the living room at home |
| 09:27:20 | arathorn | ok :(( |
| 09:27:44 | arathorn | good:))) |
| 09:27:55 | akira_ | you are from his or? |
| 09:44:41 | akira_ | cu |
| 11:09:57 | [TeA] | hiiiiii |
| 11:39:48 | BeZee | hi |
| 11:40:16 | PerfectCell | widht and breath semms to be measured from bottom center of boxbuilding and is half of building real width |
| 11:40:36 | PerfectCell | i meant breadth |
| 11:41:55 | PerfectCell | or am i wrong , naming seems little bit irratating |
| 11:45:05 | PerfectCell | also using h for breadth is not good |
| 11:45:19 | PerfectCell | i change that |
| 11:54:45 | PerfectCell | testRectInRect looks kinda strange, why do we need the transformation? |
| 11:55:38 | akira_ | hello BeZee |
| 11:55:43 | akira_ | and rest |
| 11:55:50 | BeZee | hallo |
| 11:56:01 | akira_ | wann sind die zees bereit fuer nen molematch? |
| 11:56:19 | BeZee | keine ahnung .. fanta kommt heute bestimmt noch |
| 11:56:43 | BeZee | er wollte sich auch darum bemühen, dass ein anderer zee auch noch kommt |
| 11:56:50 | akira_ | welcher? |
| 11:57:08 | BeZee | keine ahnung .. er wollte - glaub ich - alle ansprechen |
| 11:57:22 | akira_ | aha |
| 11:57:33 | akira_ | schon vom versagen der loops gehoert? |
| 11:57:39 | akira_ | also "versagen" |
| 11:57:51 | BeZee | gegen wen? |
| 11:57:56 | akira_ | gegen bz |
| 11:57:59 | akira_ | 3 : 3 |
| 11:58:10 | akira_ | dabei haben sie 8 punkte miese gemacht |
| 11:58:25 | BeZee | hehe... ist aber auch ein starkes team |
| 11:58:41 | | i guess wer is lupinator |
| 11:58:41 | akira_ | wer? |
| 11:58:45 | akira_ | bz oder die loops? |
| 11:58:53 | | akira_: i'm not following you... |
| 11:58:53 | akira_ | ibot sei leise |
| 11:58:59 | | akira_: huh? |
| 11:58:59 | akira_ | ibot geh kacken :) |
| 11:59:13 | | akira_: what? |
| 11:59:13 | akira_ | ibot .. na du weisst schon, klo, hose runter und dann druecken |
| 11:59:23 | | akira_: excuse me? |
| 11:59:23 | akira_ | ibot: du verstehst mich einfach nich was |
| 12:00:34 | akira_ | BeZee: die haben ja ein lustiges teambildchen |
| 12:00:49 | BeZee | aeh .. wer? |
| 12:01:19 | BeZee | froots? |
| 12:01:47 | akira_ | genau |
| 12:01:54 | akira_ | http://www.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=teaminfo&id=7&sessionid=1320f6b773a30c527722eb583cca646d |
| 12:02:06 | akira_ | wer ist denn eigentlich kono? |
| 12:02:09 | BeZee | habs gerade auf dem schirm .. wirklich gut |
| 12:02:31 | akira_ | die anderen 3 kenn ich ja, gerbil is raus ... |
| 12:02:34 | doughec | ha |
| 12:02:35 | akira_ | aber wer ist kono? |
| 12:02:40 | doughec | I can do better than that |
| 12:02:44 | BeZee | kono .. nie gehört |
| 12:02:47 | doughec | I will make a flash logo |
| 12:02:49 | doughec | ;) |
| 12:04:14 | akira_ | for what? |
| 12:04:30 | doughec | for a bzflag team |
| 12:04:57 | akira_ | for what team? |
| 12:05:04 | doughec | my team |
| 12:05:06 | doughec | Annihilation |
| 12:05:50 | akira_ | keep practising instead of making logos :)) |
| 12:05:57 | doughec | hehe |
| 12:06:48 | BeZee | akira: warum ist gerbil eigentlich raus |
| 12:16:08 | akira_ | cu all |
| 12:28:36 | [TeA] | lalalalala |
| 12:28:53 | [TeA] | huhu |
| 12:54:01 | Quol | hello all |
| 13:13:16 | doughec | lo captain_proton |
| 13:14:50 | Chestal | oh, those young people not knowing kono... |
| 13:15:01 | captain_proton | whom? |
| 13:17:24 | Chestal | you're joking, right? |
| 13:18:07 | captain_proton | i mean who doesn't know about kono? |
| 13:19:26 | Chestal | akira + bezee obviously |
| 13:33:46 | [TeA] | billa |
| 13:40:23 | captain_proton | Chestal: hmm |
| 13:40:49 | captain_proton | oma is proud to officially be an urban legend |
| 13:41:52 | PerfectCell | hi is there a site where i can see what is planned or done in 1.8 |
| 13:42:01 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 13:42:03 | captain_proton | not really |
| 13:42:26 | captain_proton | for planned, reading TODO and doc/* is really all we've got |
| 13:42:33 | captain_proton | in terms of whats done already, good luck ;) |
| 13:42:41 | captain_proton | maybe read a cvs log from when the split happened |
| 13:42:43 | PerfectCell | k |
| 13:44:55 | PerfectCell | how is the level data stored during the game? |
| 13:45:13 | PerfectCell | just to much code |
| 13:45:58 | captain_proton | right now it transmits the world the same as in 1.7, then generates what the visual geometry will look like and puts that in the scene graph |
| 13:46:14 | captain_proton | though that will change once obstacles are done |
| 13:46:18 | Chestal | who is Replacement Killer? |
| 13:47:03 | PerfectCell | what is the advantage of the scen graph? |
| 13:48:24 | captain_proton | PerfectCell: advantage? its necessary |
| 13:48:39 | PerfectCell | but why? |
| 13:48:52 | captain_proton | its what stores the scene |
| 13:48:58 | captain_proton | by traversing the graph, you draw |
| 13:49:21 | PerfectCell | but does it fasten view frustum culling |
| 13:49:31 | PerfectCell | thats what i meant |
| 13:50:06 | captain_proton | its nearly as fast as any other scene storage |
| 13:50:29 | captain_proton | BSP or octrees don't really make sense in an outdoor game |
| 13:50:34 | captain_proton | since you can see so much of the scene at once |
| 13:50:58 | PerfectCell | and collision detection is it O(n)? |
| 13:51:52 | captain_proton | O(log N) |
| 13:52:01 | captain_proton | it does a spatial search for obstacles |
| 13:52:02 | PerfectCell | lets consider a shot, is it tested against all obstacles |
| 13:52:05 | PerfectCell | k |
| 13:52:15 | captain_proton | (obstacles are stored separately from visual geometry) |
| 13:52:21 | PerfectCell | k |
| 13:53:00 | PerfectCell | u mean only the bounding box |
| 13:53:36 | captain_proton | ? |
| 13:54:16 | PerfectCell | i mean is collision detection done on plylevel or bBox level only |
| 13:54:47 | captain_proton | right now neither |
| 13:55:06 | captain_proton | but when the new collision stuff is done, it will be per-polygon (even per-edge and vertex) |
| 13:55:24 | PerfectCell | so how does it test if a tank hits a pyramid |
| 13:56:27 | captain_proton | at the moment? check the code |
| 13:56:51 | PerfectCell | i did |
| 13:57:08 | PerfectCell | but its kinda strange |
| 13:57:20 | captain_proton | thats an understatement :) |
| 14:00:50 | PerfectCell | its just almost impossible to implement new features |
| 14:02:59 | captain_proton | not at all |
| 14:03:03 | [TeA|TrEE] | hhmmmmm |
| 14:03:07 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmmhmmmhmmmm |
| 14:03:16 | captain_proton | you just need to play with the code long enough to where you know where things happen |
| 14:03:30 | [TeA|TrEE] | can some one html ? |
| 14:03:37 | PerfectCell | yes |
| 14:03:48 | [TeA|TrEE] | you can ? |
| 14:03:54 | PerfectCell | everybody can |
| 14:05:03 | PerfectCell | what do u need in html |
| 14:05:10 | doughec | bryjen: lo |
| 14:05:27 | bryjen | hi all |
| 14:08:08 | [TeA|TrEE] | ehm |
| 14:08:11 | [TeA|TrEE] | question |
| 14:08:22 | [TeA|TrEE] | were can i see my soundcard ? |
| 14:08:26 | [TeA|TrEE] | Son windows |
| 14:08:28 | [TeA|TrEE] | on |
| 14:08:43 | [TeA|TrEE] | which version it is ........ |
| 14:09:02 | [TeA|TrEE] | (^)({)(})(^) |
| 14:09:46 | [TeA|TrEE] | (x)(z)(g)(g)(z)(x) |
| 14:11:37 | [TeA|TrEE] | (x)(z)(l)(k)(k)(grin)(k)(k)(l)(z)(x) |
| 14:13:37 | captain_proton | wow |
| 14:13:46 | captain_proton | this infix to prefix algorithm i'm using SUCKS |
| 14:16:32 | PerfectCell | a+b = +ab u mean that |
| 14:16:49 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 14:17:03 | captain_proton | but it fails badly when you have things like '-5' as the equation |
| 14:17:40 | PerfectCell | oh, i used that, but its so long ago |
| 14:17:56 | captain_proton | time to hunt for a new algorith, |
| 15:14:34 | captain_proton | woohoooooooooooooooooooo |
| 15:14:50 | paulj | go on say 'w00t', you know you want to. |
| 15:15:11 | captain_proton | i can do better |
| 15:15:13 | captain_proton | sw00t~!!! |
| 15:15:22 | paulj | oooh... impressive. :) |
| 15:15:26 | | rumour has it dinah is sad read her book at http://www.artemisgames.com/dinah/ |
| 15:15:26 | paulj | where's dinah? |
| 15:15:27 | paulj | :) |
| 15:16:16 | captain_proton | BZDB now does expression evaluation for numeric values |
| 15:16:39 | paulj | BZDB? |
| 15:16:55 | captain_proton | hmm how to explain |
| 15:17:06 | paulj | in words preferably. |
| 15:17:09 | paulj | :) |
| 15:17:17 | captain_proton | in 1.8, all important values are kept in a name:value table called BZDB |
| 15:17:42 | paulj | ok.. |
| 15:18:20 | paulj | so now one can put '1+1' in there? |
| 15:19:11 | Chestal | grmpf |
| 15:19:19 | Chestal | I shouldn't play CTF withotu my team anymore |
| 15:19:28 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 15:19:34 | captain_proton | or you could put 1 + _jumpVelocity |
| 15:19:36 | Chestal | people just do not understand basic techniques |
| 15:21:02 | captain_proton | yeah :( |
| 15:21:47 | paulj | Chestal: such as? |
| 15:22:12 | akira_ | moin |
| 15:22:37 | akira_ | lupinator: wollen wir ein bisschen trainieren? |
| 15:23:08 | Chestal | paulj: looking at radar to know the curent situation and where to drive to |
| 15:23:24 | Chestal | paulj: always know where the flags are and donot simpyl attack a random player |
| 15:23:39 | paulj | Chestal: basic enough. |
| 15:23:39 | akira_ | paulj: just be a mole :)))) |
| 15:24:42 | Chestal | it's just annyoign when you try everythign so safe the flag and feel liek you get no support from your team |
| 15:25:23 | akira_ | oh kuckt mal |
| 15:25:29 | akira_ | halb bezeebrothers sind da |
| 15:25:38 | paulj | flag comes first - definitely. |
| 15:25:40 | Chestal | die zees wollen nachher wohl spielen |
| 15:25:56 | Chestal | ich hab heute aber eigentlich keine Zeit+Lust |
| 15:26:10 | akira_ | is ok |
| 15:26:12 | Chestal | und lupi hat irgendwas von nem Fest erzaehlt |
| 15:26:18 | akira_ | schulfest :) |
| 15:26:23 | akira_ | der alte partyhengst der |
| 15:26:33 | akira_ | na, wenn ihr all suckt, geh ich wahrcheinlich zu anja |
| 15:27:20 | captain_proton | is away: breakfast |
| 15:27:32 | FantaZee | ihr luschen ihr |
| 15:27:41 | akira_ | selber lusche |
| 15:27:51 | FantaZee | nee lutscher ;) |
| 15:27:58 | akira_ | selber lutscher :)) |
| 15:28:09 | BeZee | das niveau steigt |
| 15:28:16 | Widget | Moin. |
| 15:28:21 | akira_ | wollen wir mal nen zeebrothermolemix machen mit akira als support gegen wen auch immer? |
| 15:28:42 | FantaZee | ajax kommt auch gleich wieder |
| 15:28:54 | FantaZee | nix los in letzer zeit hier |
| 15:29:18 | BeZee | eigentlich bräuchten die zees mal wieder nen punktelieferanten |
| 15:29:20 | akira_ | also wir haben 10 spiele gemacht |
| 15:29:55 | Widget | 10? Bereits? |
| 15:29:59 | Chestal | evtl.sidn spaeter am Abend Gegner da |
| 15:31:04 | BeZee | von wem wird eigentlich http://sigkill9.tripod.com/bzflag.html erstellt? |
| 15:31:10 | akira_ | Widget: ok, bereits "koennte" man noch zusaetzlich einschieben, um dem ganzen etwas mehr ausdruck zu verleihen |
| 15:31:11 | Widget | Wie heißt das auf Englisch? " Wenn ihr gegen die ZeeBrothers antreten wollt .. Mail an FantaZee!" |
| 15:31:32 | akira_ | Widget: if you wanne fight zees, contact fanta |
| 15:31:38 | BeZee | if you want to play against zees ... |
| 15:31:49 | BeZee | oder so |
| 15:32:11 | akira_ | by word its something like: if you have an armee, then row them up in a row and .. :))) |
| 15:32:13 | [TeA] | lila |
| 15:32:17 | [TeA] | huhu @LL |
| 15:32:19 | paulj | is 'ihr' you or plural you? |
| 15:32:24 | paulj | ie singular or plural |
| 15:32:26 | [TeA] | they |
| 15:32:32 | Widget | Plural. |
| 15:32:34 | akira_ | paulj: ja |
| 15:32:36 | lupinator | guten abend liebe kinder |
| 15:32:43 | | what's up, BeZee |
| 15:32:43 | BeZee | hi |
| 15:32:52 | Widget | paulj: du/Sie is singular you, ihr is plural, I think. |
| 15:32:56 | [TeA] | guten abend ieber lupi du Grießnockal |
| 15:33:03 | [TeA] | lol |
| 15:33:04 | BeZee | haeh |
| 15:33:09 | paulj | Widget: i thought so. so the sentence translates to: |
| 15:33:21 | [TeA] | BeZee := |
| 15:33:35 | paulj | "those who wish fight zeebrothers, mail fantazee" |
| 15:34:03 | akira_ | thats not correct :) |
| 15:34:04 | Chestal | ibot, x de en Wenn ihr gegen die ZeeBrothers antreten wollt ... Mail an FantaZee! |
| 15:34:05 | | Chestal: If against the ZeeBrothers want to begin it... Mail at FantaZee! |
| 15:34:08 | paulj | akira_: no? |
| 15:34:12 | Widget | I think antreten means to begin. |
| 15:34:17 | Widget | akira_: Right? |
| 15:34:29 | Widget | Oh. ibot knew that. |
| 15:34:37 | akira_ | paulj: because you forget the "wenn" .. thats an if ... a condition ... |
| 15:34:48 | Chestal | Widget: hmm, more like 'compete' |
| 15:35:11 | akira_ | paulj: your sentence backtranslated would be something like : "alle, die gegen die zees kaempfen moechten ... " |
| 15:35:19 | paulj | antreten doesnt literally mean fight - i know that. (not sure what it means. "present against" perhaps. dutch has a similar word) |
| 15:35:28 | paulj | akira_: ah of course, yes. |
| 15:36:06 | Widget | akira_: What does "gegen" mean? Against? |
| 15:36:11 | paulj | yes |
| 15:36:23 | paulj | "tegen" in a real language, eg dutch. |
| 15:36:24 | paulj | :) |
| 15:36:28 | Chestal | ibot: x en de If you want to compete with the ZeeBrothers, mail Fantazee |
| 15:36:29 | | Chestal: Wenn Sie mit dem ZeeBrothers konkurrieren möchten, verschicken Sie Fantazee |
| 15:36:30 | akira_ | paulj: antreten means to make yourself ready for a challenge |
| 15:36:36 | Chestal | hmm :-) |
| 15:36:51 | paulj | akira_: yes, that's sort of what i meant with "present against". |
| 15:37:02 | paulj | in nederlands zegen we "aantreden" |
| 15:37:04 | Widget | akira_: What is the word for "When", if "wenn" is if? |
| 15:37:09 | paulj | "als" |
| 15:37:20 | paulj | (least if the german is the same as dutch) |
| 15:37:30 | akira_ | Widget: depends on |
| 15:37:46 | paulj | or "of" |
| 15:37:47 | Chestal | yes, 'als' or 'wann' |
| 15:37:55 | paulj | (least if the german is the same as dutch) |
| 15:38:13 | paulj | is "of" used in german?? |
| 15:39:08 | Widget | paulj: Well... in titles they use "von", right? |
| 15:39:13 | Widget | paulj: Like Otto von Bismarck. |
| 15:39:29 | akira_ | Widget: yes |
| 15:39:35 | paulj | Widget: :) i mean "if" german "von" -> dutch "van" |
| 15:40:13 | paulj | in dutch "of" is "if". |
| 15:40:37 | paulj | Widget: and congrats on not capitalising the 'von'. |
| 15:41:20 | paulj | lot of people dont know that... eg, people in US with german or dutch names capitalise their 'V{o,a}n' |
| 15:41:28 | paulj | Dick Van Dyke |
| 15:41:33 | paulj | is an exmaple. |
| 15:41:42 | paulj | (should be Dick Van Dijk) |
| 15:41:58 | FantaZee | we are looking for the best translation "Wenn ihr gegen die ZeeBrothers antreten wollt .. Mail an FantaZee!" |
| 15:42:12 | FantaZee | winner will get a price |
| 15:44:36 | paulj | "if ye want to go up against the ZeeBrothers... Mail Fantazee" |
| 15:45:22 | Widget | Can you also write "Wenn ihr wollt antreten gegen die ZeeBrothers .. Mail an FantaZee"? |
| 15:45:30 | FantaZee | send me per mail. we will pubish it on our page |
| 15:45:53 | Widget | paulj: Ye is the accusative of "you". |
| 15:46:01 | akira_ | FantaZee: ihr habt ne page? |
| 15:46:06 | paulj | arg... (should be Dick van Dijk) |
| 15:46:06 | akira_ | zeebrothers.de? |
| 15:46:12 | Widget | paulj: It should be "you" if you're using the polite form, or "thou" for the familiar. |
| 15:46:18 | paulj | Widget: ah... |
| 15:46:23 | paulj | learn something every day. |
| 15:46:27 | Widget | At least in Middle English. |
| 15:46:38 | paulj | i thought "ye" was the old plural form of "you". |
| 15:46:46 | paulj | eg "hear ye, hear ye" |
| 15:46:52 | paulj | and we still use in ireland. |
| 15:46:59 | Widget | I think that's because "ye" is in the accusative. |
| 15:47:10 | akira_ | me only knows "you" |
| 15:47:24 | Widget | So if you were using "thou", you would write "hear thee, hear thee". But probably you/ye is used as the plural. |
| 15:47:31 | paulj | well, we might still say "if ye are going to foo, can ye tell me" |
| 15:47:32 | Chestal | "thou" is old style, isn't it? |
| 15:47:43 | Widget | Yah. |
| 15:47:48 | Widget | English used to have a familiar pronoun. |
| 15:47:55 | Widget | But the English became too polite, and no one used it. |
| 15:47:55 | Chestal | "Where hast thou been, sister?" "Killing pigs." |
| 15:48:12 | Widget | Hehe. |
| 15:48:14 | PerfectCell | haha |
| 15:48:20 | Widget | Do not bring back memories. |
| 15:48:20 | Widget | Gah. |
| 15:48:26 | Chestal | the German translation I know, is very cute |
| 15:48:28 | Widget | Killing swine. |
| 15:48:36 | Chestal | ah, yes |
| 15:48:42 | Widget | Wotwot? german translation? |
| 15:48:51 | Chestal | in my Germantranslation hier, the answer is "Schweine gewürgt." |
| 15:49:08 | PerfectCell | haha |
| 15:49:26 | Chestal | Widget: well, yes, there are translations of Shakespeare's works out there :-) |
| 15:49:27 | akira_ | HARHAHR |
| 15:49:35 | akira_ | schweine gewuergt .. muhahahr |
| 15:49:37 | paulj | Widget: according to gdict: ye == "The plural of the pronoun of the second person in the |
| 15:49:37 | paulj | nominative case." |
| 15:49:48 | Chestal | even Joyce' works have been translated to German |
| 15:49:50 | Widget | paulj: Ah, I didn't know that. :) |
| 15:50:21 | Widget | What does gewürgen mean? |
| 15:50:25 | Widget | And why is it used in the third person? |
| 15:50:35 | PerfectCell | its passiv |
| 15:50:39 | Widget | Oh. |
| 15:50:45 | paulj | although gdict notes that in later useage ye and you became interchangeable. |
| 15:50:49 | Widget | So Pigs were whatever? |
| 15:50:59 | Chestal | no, it's not passive |
| 15:51:09 | Chestal | it's a short form for 'Ich habe Schweine gewürgt." |
| 15:51:10 | PerfectCell | it is |
| 15:51:36 | Chestal | so, the time used is 'perfect' |
| 15:51:39 | paulj | current useage today (least scotland, northern ireland and rural ireland) is as a plural form of you |
| 15:51:41 | akira_ | ich bin schweine wuergen gewesen |
| 15:51:52 | akira_ | ich war schweine wuergen gewesen und habs genossen :) |
| 15:52:14 | paulj | off for a smoke |
| 15:52:15 | Chestal | 'gewuergt' is Partizip I think |
| 15:52:18 | Chestal | it's been a long time |
| 15:52:44 | Widget | Perfect, as in actions that have already been completed? |
| 15:52:50 | Chestal | and participle is used for the perfect time and for passive |
| 15:52:59 | PerfectCell | no if it was Partizi p it had to be gewürgte Schweine |
| 15:53:13 | akira_ | ah shut up |
| 15:53:19 | akira_ | just slay these pigs |
| 15:53:43 | lupinator | it's partizip perfekt |
| 15:53:48 | Widget | once read a Chinese translation of Jabberwocky in which in place of the nonsense words they substituted made-up characters. |
| 15:54:16 | PerfectCell | es ist 1.vergangenheit passiv |
| 15:54:31 | PerfectCell | ihr lahmbacken |
| 15:54:35 | | was is probably were cool-beans |
| 15:54:35 | lupinator | was? |
| 15:54:43 | | Widget: I forgot was |
| 15:54:43 | Widget | ibot: forget was |
| 15:54:51 | Chestal | Cell: ne, den sie wollte nicht sagen'Das Schwein wurde gewürgt" |
| 15:54:55 | akira_ | lupinator knows what he says .. he comes direct from scool |
| 15:55:03 | lupinator | ich habe wuergend die schweine gewuergt |
| 15:55:16 | PerfectCell | ah ja stimmt |
| 15:55:28 | PerfectCell | hehe |
| 15:55:44 | Chestal | damn redhat gcc 2.96 |
| 15:55:48 | akira_ | ich habe voller freude die kettensaege durch die schweine, welche noch lebendig waren, wie das messer durch die butter gefuehrt und hatte meinen spass |
| 15:55:52 | | redhat is nothing but a milk-livered mass of gorbellied poop. |
| 15:55:52 | Chestal | ibot: insult redhat |
| 15:56:09 | akira_ | hahra |
| 15:56:37 | Widget | Meanwhile, Debian has 2.95.4 or somesuch. |
| 15:56:41 | Widget | That hasn't even been released. |
| 15:56:54 | akira_ | debian sux |
| 15:57:09 | Chestal | Debian 3.0 has been released |
| 15:57:11 | akira_ | their new woody has got the brand new stuff .. 4.1 x |
| 15:57:11 | Widget | I dare you to go to #debian and tell them that. |
| 15:57:13 | Chestal | Debian ruuuuleezzzzzz |
| 15:57:14 | akira_ | kde 2.2 |
| 15:57:22 | akira_ | all the old crap |
| 15:57:24 | Widget | akira_ uses KDE!?!? |
| 15:57:26 | Widget | Heehee. |
| 15:57:26 | akira_ | slackware rulez |
| 15:57:38 | akira_ | simplicity is divine :) |
| 15:58:09 | akira_ | is someone from england out there who wants to visit berlin or germany in the next months? |
| 15:58:29 | PerfectCell | for what |
| 15:58:52 | akira_ | ok, i wanne buy a book from amazon but dont want to pay the shipping |
| 15:58:55 | lupinator | schweine wuergen? |
| 15:59:40 | PerfectCell | no u want to eat Sauerkraut + Semmelknödel mit Schweinshaxen |
| 16:03:23 | paulj | anyone fancy a quick game? |
| 16:05:17 | Widget | akira_: Ask dinah. :) |
| 16:05:20 | Widget | paulj: OK. |
| 16:05:30 | paulj | Widget: where? |
| 16:05:37 | Widget | paulj: Port 59999, ducati? |
| 16:05:41 | paulj | (no direct http access here) |
| 16:05:46 | paulj | 59999 ducati it is. |
| 16:05:53 | paulj | be there in 2 min. |
| 16:06:25 | Widget | OK. |
| 16:06:29 | Widget | Tell me when you're there. |
| 16:06:43 | akira_ | Widget: dinah? will he/she come to europe? |
| 16:06:51 | Widget | akira_: She might,. |
| 16:06:56 | Widget | akira_: If you ask nicely. |
| 16:07:12 | akira_ | harhar |
| 16:08:13 | Widget | Hm.... so the UK is not Europe? |
| 16:08:21 | akira_ | ah |
| 16:08:22 | Widget | Funny ways you've got on the continent. |
| 16:08:30 | akira_ | dont know where she comes from |
| 16:08:38 | Widget | London. |
| 16:08:39 | akira_ | AND .. uk is not in the eu |
| 16:08:42 | Widget | The largest city in Europe. |
| 16:08:45 | Widget | The UK is in the EU. |
| 16:08:49 | Widget | They're just not in the Eurozone. |
| 16:08:57 | Widget | Neither is Sweden or Denmark, but they're both in the EU as well. |
| 16:09:20 | Widget | 15 member nations: |
| 16:09:30 | Widget | Germany, France, Italy, Sweden, Denmark... |
| 16:09:31 | akira_ | but they dont use the euro .. damn britishs :) |
| 16:09:39 | paulj | Widget: they /were/ n the eurozone, but they pulled out before the launch of the currency. |
| 16:09:49 | Widget | Greece, UK, Ireland, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg..... |
| 16:10:02 | Widget | Austria. |
| 16:10:09 | paulj | let me pull out a coin and see.. |
| 16:10:14 | Widget | Finland. |
| 16:10:19 | Widget | Wait. |
| 16:10:25 | Widget | I want to see if I can remember them all., |
| 16:10:27 | paulj | finland, norway, spain |
| 16:10:27 | Widget | And Spain. |
| 16:10:29 | Widget | And Portugal. |
| 16:10:32 | Widget | paulj: Norway isn't in it. |
| 16:10:38 | Widget | I got them all, I think. |
| 16:10:40 | Widget | All 15. |
| 16:10:56 | paulj | Widget: sure? then why are they on the coin? |
| 16:11:03 | Widget | Sweden, Denmark and Finland are in the EU (though the first two are not in the Eurozone). But Norway isn't. |
| 16:11:11 | Widget | paulj: Er... you mean the map of Europe? |
| 16:11:17 | paulj | ah sorry - sweden |
| 16:11:20 | Widget | paulj: It would be sort of awkward to cut one country out. |
| 16:11:40 | Widget | paulj: I have a few euros, and I heard the picture cut Finland off. |
| 16:12:23 | paulj | hmm.. i thought the map only had those countries who were in the euro on it. |
| 16:12:31 | paulj | but looking at it now, the UK is on it, so... |
| 16:12:40 | Widget | paulj: Nope. Note that there's countries like Switzerland on it. |
| 16:12:56 | Widget | It's pretty weird to have a map of europe with the UK or Norway gone. |
| 16:13:00 | paulj | der schweiz is not on it. |
| 16:13:04 | Widget | It is so. |
| 16:13:13 | Widget | Only the countries are not marked by lines. |
| 16:13:24 | Widget | But it's there, just as much as France is. |
| 16:13:40 | paulj | is not - that's austria just below germany and above italy. |
| 16:13:47 | paulj | no switzerland |
| 16:14:00 | paulj | its not a map cause the countries are exploded out. |
| 16:14:02 | Widget | Er... the countries are not demarcated with lines, are they? |
| 16:14:18 | paulj | (eg Northern Ireland is seperated from Ireland) |
| 16:14:39 | paulj | its an exploded map of EU countries i think. |
| 16:14:44 | paulj | so no schweiz. |
| 16:14:49 | Widget | Yes, there are small boundaries. |
| 16:15:04 | paulj | eh, no. |
| 16:15:15 | Widget | Yes. There's a small division between each country. |
| 16:15:17 | Widget | A small groove. |
| 16:15:22 | paulj | small? |
| 16:15:30 | paulj | aer you looking at a coin right now? |
| 16:15:33 | Widget | Yeah. |
| 16:15:40 | Widget | It looks like the countries are pushed close together, but not touching. |
| 16:15:43 | paulj | there's no way it is geographical. |
| 16:15:50 | Widget | It isn't. |
| 16:15:55 | Widget | At least on the 50 Euro cent note. |
| 16:16:07 | paulj | germany is pushed away from france, as is italy. |
| 16:16:18 | Widget | Spain is pushed away from France. |
| 16:16:26 | Widget | I think it shows the EU countries, not the Eurozone countries. |
| 16:16:49 | paulj | i guess you could say the non-raised metal in between italy france austria and germany is CH.. |
| 16:16:56 | Widget | Hehe. |
| 16:16:57 | paulj | but you could say it's lichtenstein too. |
| 16:17:08 | Widget | Liechtenstein is not that small. |
| 16:17:20 | paulj | and the long seperated bit in between france and spain must be andorra? |
| 16:17:26 | paulj | (come off it now widget.. :) ) |
| 16:18:08 | paulj | liechtenstein is tiny. :) |
| 16:18:14 | Widget | So Ireland is the only English speaking nation to use the Euro, are they? |
| 16:18:25 | paulj | yep |
| 16:18:50 | paulj | Widget: bonus point if you tell me what CH means. |
| 16:18:55 | paulj | (no googling) |
| 16:19:02 | Widget | Confederation Helvetique. |
| 16:19:13 | Widget | Or something else in other languages. |
| 16:19:18 | Widget | Confederation Helvetica in Latin. |
| 16:19:29 | paulj | confederacia helvetica iirc |
| 16:19:57 | paulj | gives widget his bonus point. |
| 16:20:03 | paulj | i cant get into ducati 59999 |
| 16:20:24 | Widget | The Latin name is Confederatio Helvetica, I'm pretty sure. |
| 16:20:29 | Chestal | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 16:20:30 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 16:20:30 | paulj | ah.. that's the one. |
| 16:20:48 | Widget | Or.... Conf½deratio Helvetica. |
| 16:20:56 | paulj | "confederatio" |
| 16:21:12 | Widget | They have the digraph ½ in there, methinks. |
| 16:21:27 | paulj | is there anything you /dont/ know widget? |
| 16:21:29 | paulj | :) |
| 16:22:01 | Widget | I know all the wrong answers. |
| 16:22:03 | paulj | :) |
| 16:22:33 | Widget | paulj: What happens when you try to connect to ducati 59999? |
| 16:22:38 | paulj | nothing.. |
| 16:22:43 | paulj | firewall probably. |
| 16:22:59 | Chestal | uhm, strange |
| 16:23:11 | Widget | Does your firewall block UDP or something? |
| 16:23:24 | Chestal | paulj: the other ducatis work? |
| 16:23:31 | paulj | ah no - never mind. |
| 16:23:36 | paulj | routing problem. |
| 16:23:45 | Widget | Oh. |
| 16:23:55 | Widget | Want to try cell.unm.edu? |
| 16:24:17 | paulj | bzfquery cell.unm.edu 5155 |
| 16:24:19 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 16:24:25 | paulj | widget - lets go! |
| 16:24:26 | Widget | See you there. |
| 16:27:24 | | what's up, [TeA] |
| 16:27:24 | [TeA] | hi |
| 16:31:52 | | [TeA]: what? |
| 16:31:52 | [TeA] | ibot: Du Grießnockal dua |
| 16:33:02 | | Chestal: I forgot wer |
| 16:33:02 | Chestal | ibot: forget wer |
| 16:33:28 | FantaZee | tea: was ist mit eurem team heute ? |
| 16:33:53 | [TeA] | fanta |
| 16:33:55 | [TeA] | k.q. |
| 16:33:57 | [TeA] | k.a. |
| 16:34:05 | [TeA] | Skipp hab ich noch nicht gesehen |
| 16:34:17 | [TeA] | Quol war 10 sec in IRC oder so |
| 16:34:31 | FantaZee | schade |
| 16:34:37 | [TeA] | aber geplant war eigentlich |
| 16:34:47 | [TeA] | 17:00 UTC annihilation vs ult |
| 16:35:06 | Chestal | wie gut, dass keins der Teams da war ;-) |
| 16:35:24 | [TeA] | :) |
| 16:35:32 | [TeA] | Chestal bin grad am Homepage bastln |
| 16:35:39 | Chestal | ohje |
| 16:35:42 | [TeA] | www.ult-bzflag.tk |
| 16:35:44 | [TeA] | lol |
| 16:35:50 | Chestal | wasn .tk? |
| 16:35:59 | Chestal | Tuerkei? |
| 16:36:13 | [TeA] | nein |
| 16:36:17 | [TeA] | k.a. was das ist |
| 16:36:22 | [TeA] | www.dot.tk |
| 16:36:25 | [TeA] | kostenlos |
| 16:36:34 | [TeA] | = de.vu |
| 16:36:38 | [TeA] | ähnich |
| 16:38:00 | | a german gent that enjoys croissant with his pet duck, Tag |
| 16:38:00 | [TeA] | chestal ? |
| 16:38:17 | [TeA] | tea ? |
| 16:38:20 | [TeA] | oooooooooh |
| 16:38:22 | [TeA] | :( |
| 16:42:35 | [TeA] | .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:::::::...:::::::...:....:::.. |
| 16:43:15 | akira_ | ascii art? |
| 16:43:17 | akira_ | :) |
| 16:43:21 | akira_ | bis spaeter alle |
| 16:43:25 | akira_ | moles 4 ever :) |
| 16:43:34 | akira_ | dig dig dig |
| 16:43:36 | Chestal | bye akira |
| 16:43:47 | akira_ | moles killing the pig pig pig :) |
| 16:43:50 | akira_ | muhar |
| 16:43:54 | akira_ | winke winke |
| 16:46:29 | Widget | Where is jh and Zig? |
| 16:46:43 | Chestal | Zig is on 5156 |
| 16:56:53 | [TeA] | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:56:54 | bzbot | p a r a m o u n t (Green):-11 (24 wins, 35 losses). freight train (Red):0 (45 wins, 45 losses). themacboy (Green):-93 (52 wins, 145 losses). @Zig (Blue):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). [TLZ] FantaZee (Red):31 (69 wins, 38 losses). Chestal (Green):1 (7 wins, 6 losses). @Widget (Blue):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). b-ball (Red):26 (72 wins, 46 losses). lool (Green):-15 (20 wins, 35 losses). rusty (Red):-11 (10 wins, 21 losses). |
| 17:05:14 | Widget | hihihi |
| 17:26:01 | [TeA] | hihihi |
| 17:33:08 | jzaun | captain_proton: What are all the varibles that can go into an <if name="" value=""> tag? |
| 17:33:39 | captain_proton | jzaun: anything in BZDB |
| 17:34:12 | captain_proton | a lot of the stuff you can see in the console by typing 'set' |
| 17:34:23 | captain_proton | there are hidden vars, but most of those are just backend things |
| 17:34:54 | jzaun | I was looking at the set command but didn't see what I'm looking for, where is BZDB at so I can have a look? |
| 17:36:00 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 17:36:07 | captain_proton | its not really 'at' any place |
| 17:36:15 | captain_proton | just do 'set' with no arguments |
| 17:36:29 | jzaun | right, there is not for alive/dead |
| 17:36:32 | jzaun | that I saw |
| 17:37:22 | captain_proton | lemme take a look |
| 17:39:00 | captain_proton | hmm, apparently not |
| 17:39:02 | captain_proton | add one ;) |
| 17:39:11 | jzaun | hehe... ok I will, how? :-P |
| 17:39:44 | jzaun | There may be more I would want to add down the road, so I might as well learn |
| 17:39:52 | captain_proton | well, its a simple API - BZDB->set(name, value) [both are std::string's] |
| 17:40:18 | captain_proton | probably modifying the LocalPlayer class to set the BZDB entry depending on state |
| 17:40:34 | jpablo | hi. |
| 17:43:08 | jzaun | captain_proton: I'll pay around with it and see what I can do. Thanks for the info |
| 17:56:34 | Chestal | hi tank |
| 17:56:39 | Chestal | wie wars? |
| 17:56:49 | tankmann | guten abend |
| 17:57:24 | tankmann | bis auf schlechtes wetter und schlechte strände wars gut... |
| 17:57:45 | Chestal | oh, schade |
| 17:58:05 | tankmann | naja, nicht so schlimm, in 10 jahren fahr ich bestimmt mal wieder in urlaub :) |
| 17:58:36 | Chestal | jo, nachm Studium :-) |
| 17:59:28 | tankmann | es war mir eine freude, die match results zu begutachten! |
| 18:01:23 | tankmann | sind schon irgendwelche spiele geplant in den nächsten tagen? |
| 18:01:29 | Chestal | von uns keine |
| 18:12:32 | Chestal | hmm, eighentlich wollt ich heut nicht spielen, aber wir sind ja jetzt doch zu dritt hier |
| 18:12:35 | Chestal | bloss kein Gegner |
| 18:12:39 | paulj | bywe |
| 18:12:47 | [TeA] | hui |
| 18:12:48 | [TeA] | hui |
| 18:12:54 | captain_proton | whoops |
| 18:13:17 | [TeA] | Who wants to challege us ore type what ever please go to the ult site to the guestbook |
| 18:13:29 | [TeA] | http://www.ult-bzflag.tk |
| 18:13:32 | [TeA] | :) |
| 18:16:24 | captain_proton | - is a crappy operator |
| 18:16:55 | captain_proton | yikes [TeA] - get rid of the flash navigation menu (or at least duplicate with links) |
| 18:19:11 | [TeA] | captain ?? |
| 18:19:54 | captain_proton | ponders |
| 18:22:05 | FantaZee | lupi |
| 18:22:16 | FantaZee | tankman |
| 18:22:21 | FantaZee | tankmann |
| 18:23:19 | PerfectCell | just verified that P' = q*P*q-1 , where P' is P rotated with angle theta about arbitrary axis a and q is the corresponding quaternion |
| 18:23:32 | Chestal | hi fant |
| 18:23:36 | PerfectCell | f man that was a hart calculation |
| 18:24:02 | PerfectCell | hard |
| 18:24:56 | captain_proton | Chestal: what was the NaN value again? |
| 18:25:44 | Chestal | uh, something like numeric_limits<float>::signaling_NaN() |
| 18:26:34 | PerfectCell | not a number |
| 18:27:03 | captain_proton | Chestal: hmm, i'll google |
| 18:27:08 | BeZee | chestal: habt ihr lust auf ein spiel |
| 18:27:11 | jzaun | captain_proton: does Player::setVelocity(const float* _velocity) set the speed of the tank, and if so is _velocity the tanks speed? |
| 18:27:37 | Chestal | or quiet_NaN() |
| 18:27:50 | PerfectCell | floats can be +0, -0, +Infinity, -Infinity, NaN |
| 18:27:55 | Chestal | bezee: so richtig oder nur so? |
| 18:28:05 | BeZee | klar |
| 18:28:18 | Chestal | klar was? :-) |
| 18:28:30 | BeZee | ja klar :-) |
| 18:28:54 | captain_proton | jzaun: looks right |
| 18:28:55 | BeZee | so richtig mit punkten .. hoch offiziell |
| 18:29:14 | captain_proton | PerfectCell: yes yes i know - i just needed the value to return if the result was NaN |
| 18:29:23 | Chestal | BeZee: muss ich mal fragen, weil wir nix geplant hatten |
| 18:29:40 | BeZee | ok .. |
| 18:29:45 | jzaun | captain_proton: seeing as I'm not very famillrar with the code yet, would you know how to change that into MPH? |
| 18:29:47 | PerfectCell | so having a division with zero |
| 18:30:00 | captain_proton | jzaun: MPH? |
| 18:30:04 | captain_proton | ooh, wonderful |
| 18:30:12 | captain_proton | gcc 2.85 does not have a <limits> header |
| 18:30:23 | Chestal | proton: 2.95, I assume? yes, that's too old |
| 18:30:31 | jzaun | captain_proton: Miles Per Hour. |
| 18:30:37 | Chestal | what do you need NaN for anyway? |
| 18:31:08 | PerfectCell | 2.0/0.0 is NaN |
| 18:31:22 | PerfectCell | i think |
| 18:31:28 | captain_proton | Chestal: i'm building this expression parser, and if a variable isn't found in BZDB, it should return NaN |
| 18:31:41 | Chestal | ah, hmm |
| 18:31:49 | PerfectCell | BZDB |
| 18:31:58 | Chestal | in-band signaling is evil :-) |
| 18:32:09 | captain_proton | i'll just settle with throwing a runtime_error() |
| 18:32:28 | PerfectCell | u shoul call the global name value table DBZ = Dragon Ball Z :) |
| 18:32:43 | PerfectCell | better to remember |
| 18:32:44 | Chestal | bezee: also sieht so aus als wollten sie spielen |
| 18:33:07 | BeZee | sehr gut .. wann? sofort? |
| 18:33:12 | captain_proton | PerfectCell: erk. no. |
| 18:33:33 | Chestal | bezee: lupi ist kurz weg, wollte aber sofort weider da sein |
| 18:33:46 | Chestal | ichmus smalmeien Berechnugn anhalten hier,hmm |
| 18:34:03 | captain_proton | so much for user-friendly config formats =) |
| 18:34:08 | captain_proton | crs just voted on xml |
| 18:34:19 | BeZee | ok.. ist 59000 aktuell? |
| 18:34:25 | Chestal | 59999 |
| 18:34:28 | BeZee | ok |
| 18:34:34 | BeZee | bis gleich |
| 18:34:40 | Chestal | jo |
| 18:35:17 | Chestal | bezee: Farben? |
| 18:35:38 | Chestal | ich geh mal auf 59999 |
| 18:35:40 | BeZee | wir in grün |
| 18:36:39 | captain_proton | hold on to your pants everyone! |
| 18:36:59 | Patlabor221 | pants? what are those? |
| 18:37:14 | captain_proton | heh |
| 18:37:32 | captain_proton | 2 more things to do, then this is gonna rock :) |
| 18:38:14 | captain_proton | prevention of circular references (easy), and lazy caching |
| 18:38:18 | captain_proton | cacheing that is |
| 18:39:07 | PerfectCell | yes |
| 18:40:04 | captain_proton | twiddles his thumbs, waiting for the commit to finish |
| 18:40:26 | Patlabor221 | cap what did you just change? |
| 18:40:36 | captain_proton | beautiful: { "_tankRadius", "0.72 * _tankLength", false, StateDatabase::Locked}, |
| 18:40:51 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: added expression parsing for numeric values in BZDB |
| 18:40:57 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 18:43:08 | PerfectCell | nix kapito |
| 18:43:59 | Chestal | upcoming match on 59999 |
| 18:45:10 | captain_proton | where are my teammates?! |
| 18:45:12 | Patlabor221 | anyone know what a dencet model viewer is for linux? |
| 18:45:16 | captain_proton | wants to play!! |
| 18:45:19 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: bzgview ;) |
| 18:45:33 | Patlabor221 | what dos it read? just bx models? |
| 18:45:38 | Patlabor221 | zorry bz |
| 18:45:40 | captain_proton | yep |
| 18:46:04 | Patlabor221 | was kinda looking for something that did more formates, before I make BZGs outa them |
| 18:46:58 | captain_proton | looking to write a conversion utility? |
| 18:47:06 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 18:47:18 | Patlabor221 | but I want a viewer first so I can see what models look like |
| 18:47:22 | Patlabor221 | something that reads OBJ |
| 18:47:32 | PerfectCell | 3d studio |
| 18:47:45 | Patlabor221 | on linux |
| 18:47:49 | PerfectCell | no |
| 18:47:55 | Patlabor221 | got tons of moodlers on windows |
| 18:48:02 | Patlabor221 | and max's interface blows |
| 18:48:04 | captain_proton | moodlers! |
| 18:48:14 | Patlabor221 | special modelers |
| 18:48:23 | Patlabor221 | hence the extra o |
| 18:48:32 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream! |
| 18:48:36 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 18:48:37 | PerfectCell | dont ever seen one on linux |
| 18:48:37 | captain_proton | sup dawg |
| 18:48:49 | MrApathyCream | no much homey |
| 18:49:16 | captain_proton | you should see the beautiful new values in src/game/global.cxx |
| 18:50:16 | MrApathyCream | cul |
| 18:52:34 | captain_proton | omg |
| 18:52:44 | captain_proton | vc++ has support for a standard header that gcc 2.95 does not |
| 18:53:35 | Patlabor221 | what one? |
| 18:53:39 | Chestal | hi T-34 |
| 18:53:43 | Patlabor221 | <VECTOR> ? |
| 18:53:45 | T-34 | Hello everybody! |
| 18:53:45 | Chestal | upcoming match on 59999 |
| 18:53:57 | T-34 | Hello Chestal! |
| 18:53:58 | captain_proton | <limits> |
| 18:54:02 | T-34 | Aainst ? |
| 18:54:15 | T-34 | Against who? |
| 18:54:15 | captain_proton | everybody and their mother supports <vector> |
| 18:54:31 | Chestal | moles vs. Zees |
| 18:54:33 | Patlabor221 | the compiler I got dosn't seem to |
| 18:54:38 | T-34 | oops |
| 18:54:41 | T-34 | again? |
| 18:54:43 | captain_proton | hmm - its on MSDN |
| 18:55:27 | MrApathyCream | lots o compile errors,,... will fix in a bit, but gotta go |
| 18:55:46 | Chestal | T-34: yes, the revenge, Ihope :-) |
| 18:55:52 | T-34 | :) |
| 18:56:03 | T-34 | You deserve that! |
| 18:56:07 | T-34 | I go for now |
| 18:56:11 | T-34 | bye |
| 18:58:45 | strayer | hi @all |
| 19:04:01 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:04:02 | bzbot | Red: 3 players, score: 6 | Green: 4 players, score: -12 | |
| 19:04:04 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 19:04:04 | bzbot | Red: 3 players, score: 1 | Green: 3 players, score: -1 | |
| 19:04:25 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 19:04:25 | bzbot | Chestal (Red):1 (17 wins, 16 losses). [TLZ] FantaZee (Green):-5 (17 wins, 22 losses). lupinator (Red):3 (12 wins, 9 losses). [TLZ] BeZee (Green):-5 (9 wins, 14 losses). [TLZ] Ajax (Green):-4 (10 wins, 14 losses). tankmann (Red):4 (18 wins, 14 losses). @bryjen (Purple):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). |
| 19:05:03 | strayer | widget....moles against TLZ? |
| 19:09:11 | captain_proton | ritchie_: subscribed to bzflag-league yet? |
| 19:18:21 | Gorb | what |
| 19:19:23 | w339 | hi all |
| 19:29:11 | [TeA] | Moles vs Zee`s 8:1 |
| 19:29:44 | FantaZee | 339 |
| 19:30:14 | [TeA] | ? |
| 19:30:28 | Chestal | I thinkjhe's on 5156 now |
| 19:30:43 | FantaZee | chestal: again ? |
| 19:30:57 | bryjen | Chestal: was that 7:1 or 8:1 ? |
| 19:31:15 | FantaZee | 7:1 |
| 19:31:37 | bryjen | ok, that's what i thought |
| 19:31:41 | Chestal | 7:1 |
| 19:32:00 | | a german gent that enjoys croissant with his pet duck, Tag |
| 19:32:00 | FantaZee | chestal ? |
| 19:32:16 | Chestal | FantaZee: uh, a rematch right now? another official one? |
| 19:32:39 | Chestal | I'm quite tired after a match :-) |
| 19:32:43 | FantaZee | next official |
| 19:32:57 | FantaZee | me too, but i want to ply |
| 19:33:11 | Chestal | too bad that no other team is here |
| 19:33:19 | captain_proton | curses meq |
| 19:33:19 | FantaZee | yes |
| 19:33:25 | TLZAjax | ola |
| 19:34:14 | | Howdy Bub |
| 19:34:14 | TLZAjax | hello? |
| 19:34:26 | strayer | hi ajax |
| 19:34:29 | TLZAjax | hi |
| 19:34:40 | FantaZee | ajax |
| 19:34:41 | TLZAjax | fanta here? |
| 19:34:54 | FantaZee | talking with 339 |
| 19:34:57 | TLZAjax | ok |
| 19:35:02 | | a german gent that enjoys croissant with his pet duck, Tag |
| 19:35:02 | TLZAjax | chestal? |
| 19:35:06 | FantaZee | he tried port 59000 |
| 19:35:12 | Chestal | looks like we cannot gather 3 players now |
| 19:35:25 | TLZAjax | hmm shame, who left? |
| 19:35:58 | TLZAjax | 59000 was the usual port |
| 19:36:13 | Chestal | yes,it was 59000, but I had to move to 59999 |
| 19:36:17 | TLZAjax | chestal, who left? |
| 19:36:21 | Chestal | tankmann cannot make it for another match |
| 19:36:32 | TLZAjax | akira around? |
| 19:36:52 | Chestal | no, he's with his girlfriend I guess, earlier this day I assumed that we wouldn't play, so he left |
| 19:36:58 | Chestal | and COmanche is still on vacation I think |
| 19:37:03 | TLZAjax | i see |
| 19:37:15 | TLZAjax | comanche seems to be on holiday all the time... |
| 19:37:24 | TLZAjax | but comanche is frogs right? |
| 19:37:35 | FantaZee | ajax, come to 5156 as observer |
| 19:37:57 | TLZAjax | i will |
| 19:38:16 | Chestal | no, Comamche is a Mole |
| 19:39:42 | TLZAjax | zig, jh or sniper50 present |
| 19:40:28 | Chestal | bz have a game scheduled in 3 hours, but that's probably too late |
| 19:41:58 | tankmann | have to leave you now |
| 19:42:04 | tankmann | have a good day/night, bye |
| 19:42:49 | captain_proton | tries to think of seomthing to hack at |
| 19:43:23 | TLZAjax | captain can you raise your team? |
| 19:43:37 | captain_proton | TLZAjax: not unless they come here of their own accord |
| 19:43:46 | TLZAjax | i see |
| 19:44:10 | TLZAjax | anyone else around interested for a match that can raise his team? |
| 19:44:19 | TLZAjax | that = who |
| 19:44:53 | TLZAjax | fnata? |
| 19:44:59 | ritchie_ | proton |
| 19:45:00 | ritchie_ | hi |
| 19:45:06 | TLZAjax | fanta that is |
| 19:45:12 | FantaZee | ajax |
| 19:45:20 | ritchie_ | chestal hi |
| 19:45:24 | FantaZee | come to 59999 in red, now |
| 19:46:04 | Chestal | hi ritchie |
| 19:46:34 | FantaZee | chestal |
| 19:47:08 | kitchen | do sw's kill gm's? |
| 19:47:13 | kitchen | or can they? |
| 19:47:40 | Chestal | shots are never killed, it's an interestign idea, though |
| 19:47:50 | kitchen | I'm just a big GM target |
| 19:47:52 | kitchen | sighs |
| 19:48:00 | strayer | hehe |
| 19:49:00 | kitchen | it'd be nice to do in GM campers |
| 19:49:07 | bryjen | of course you can still use SW to kill the TANK that has GM. best if you can get somewhere where they don't have line-of-sight to you, but your SW reaches them |
| 19:49:25 | kitchen | heh, yeah, done that a few times |
| 19:58:35 | jzaun | captain_proton: you around? |
| 19:58:45 | captain_proton | jzaun: yep |
| 19:59:05 | jzaun | just did a cvs update, failin to compile in StateDatabase.h |
| 19:59:15 | jzaun | ../../include/StateDatabase.h:175: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `istream' with no type |
| 19:59:29 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:59:34 | Chestal | jzaun: missing std:: ? |
| 19:59:43 | jzaun | well there is a bunch... lemmie msg it to you |
| 19:59:45 | captain_proton | that i am! |
| 20:00:41 | captain_proton | have it fixed in a jiffie |
| 20:00:46 | jzaun | np |
| 20:01:48 | jzaun | I've been working on the view.bzc a good bit... just need to figure out how to make the tank velosity human readable and I'll show ya what I got :-) |
| 20:08:41 | captain_proton | jzaun: ok, update |
| 20:09:05 | jzaun | ok... |
| 20:09:42 | jzaun | about 3 screens of errors :-) |
| 20:09:45 | jzaun | first one is: |
| 20:09:50 | jzaun | StateDatabase.cxx: In function `std::istream& operator>>(std::istream&, StateDatabase::ExpressionToken&)': |
| 20:10:04 | jzaun | StateDatabase.cxx:389: no match for `std::basic_istream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& >> char&' operator |
| 20:10:44 | captain_proton | wtf? |
| 20:14:28 | FantaZee | 339 ? |
| 20:14:46 | FantaZee | w339 ? |
| 20:24:04 | MrApathyCream | cappy... do you want this? |
| 20:24:07 | MrApathyCream | StateDatabase.cxx |
| 20:24:09 | MrApathyCream | case ExpressionToken::oper: |
| 20:24:09 | MrApathyCream | if (evaluationStack.size() == 0) |
| 20:24:09 | MrApathyCream | ; // syntax error |
| 20:24:09 | MrApathyCream | lvalue = evaluationStack.top(); evaluationStack.pop(); |
| 20:24:09 | MrApathyCream | if (evaluationStack.size() == 0) |
| 20:24:10 | MrApathyCream | unary = true; // syntax error or unary operator |
| 20:24:12 | MrApathyCream | if (!unary) { |
| 20:24:14 | MrApathyCream | rvalue = evaluationStack.top(); evaluationStack.pop(); |
| 20:24:16 | MrApathyCream | } |
| 20:24:19 | MrApathyCream | (empty if statement) |
| 20:24:27 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: sorta kinda |
| 20:24:34 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: technically it should have some sort of error there |
| 20:26:13 | captain_proton | perhaps we should just throw a catch(std::runtime_error) in main and throw wherever |
| 20:27:44 | MrApathyCream | at least change it to {} , semi's look like an error here |
| 20:36:12 | strayer | any games going on? |
| 20:36:42 | strayer | guess not... |
| 20:39:00 | jzaun | captain_proton: Any idea on the error I got? |
| 20:39:27 | captain_proton | jzaun: not at all =/ |
| 20:39:52 | jzaun | Would that update require a make clean? |
| 20:48:55 | Widget | hihihi, Zig. |
| 20:49:07 | Widget | Zig: Ready for the game in 2 hours? |
| 20:49:32 | [TeA] | lol |
| 20:51:14 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:51:25 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:51:36 | Widget | It appears to have crashed. |
| 20:52:07 | Widget | Odd.... 5156 is down. |
| 20:52:11 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 20:52:11 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 20:53:57 | [TeA] | Widget |
| 20:54:01 | | salut, [TeA] |
| 20:54:01 | [TeA] | hello |
| 20:54:13 | | widget is A very intellifent and discerning person that eats robots |
| 20:54:13 | [TeA] | widget ? |
| 20:54:14 | Zig | .... |
| 20:54:14 | Widget | [TeA] |
| 20:54:16 | Zig | ? |
| 20:54:16 | Widget | hello |
| 20:54:17 | [TeA] | ah |
| 20:54:21 | [TeA] | 5156 works |
| 20:54:23 | Widget | hihihi, Zig. |
| 20:54:25 | [TeA] | i was just on it |
| 20:54:27 | Widget | Ready for the match in 2 hours? |
| 20:54:31 | Zig | vs who |
| 20:54:40 | [TeA] | depends on my team if they are there |
| 20:54:47 | [TeA] | thats 2:00 am for me |
| 20:54:49 | [TeA] | lol |
| 20:54:49 | Zig | k ;) |
| 20:54:55 | [TeA] | i took of work for that |
| 20:54:56 | Zig | thats 8 pm |
| 20:55:09 | [TeA] | Widget and Zig ?? |
| 20:55:16 | Widget | Zig: TLZ or Avengers. |
| 20:55:26 | Zig | .. |
| 20:55:29 | Widget | Anyone who's there. |
| 20:55:31 | [TeA] | Avengers |
| 20:55:32 | Zig | k |
| 20:55:33 | Widget | I think avengers meant to play us then. |
| 20:55:34 | [TeA] | i will kill them |
| 20:55:43 | Zig | avengers.. |
| 20:55:44 | [TeA] | #blabla |
| 20:55:46 | [TeA] | join |
| 20:56:02 | Zig | hmm |
| 20:56:08 | | i heard zig was my worst nightmare? |
| 20:56:08 | [TeA] | zig ? |
| 20:56:15 | Zig | yep |
| 20:56:17 | [TeA] | join |
| 20:56:20 | Zig | why |
| 20:56:25 | [TeA] | chan #blabla |
| 20:56:27 | [TeA] | talk |
| 20:56:30 | Zig | why not here |
| 20:56:38 | [TeA] | dunno |
| 20:56:39 | [TeA] | ;) |
| 20:56:42 | Widget | Let's talk here. |
| 20:56:52 | [TeA] | ok |
| 20:56:59 | [TeA] | i just wanted to tell you |
| 20:57:09 | [TeA] | and you can tell that your team |
| 20:57:23 | Zig | about |
| 20:57:40 | [TeA] | ult has a homepage were you can challenge them in the guestbook |
| 20:57:54 | [TeA] | if we are not on the league site :) |
| 20:58:04 | Zig | ;0 |
| 20:58:06 | Widget | cult |
| 20:58:18 | Widget | The true nature of ult is revealed!!! |
| 20:58:27 | Zig | what was hidden |
| 20:58:31 | Zig | the cult? |
| 20:58:33 | Zig | :0 |
| 20:58:42 | [TeA] | www.ult-bzflag.tk |
| 20:58:48 | [TeA] | not that g00d the site |
| 20:58:53 | [TeA] | but never mind |
| 20:58:57 | Zig | okay |
| 20:59:01 | [TeA] | use guestbook for challenges ore so |
| 20:59:05 | [TeA] | just wanted to tell |
| 20:59:06 | Zig | widget, what we need are some new names |
| 20:59:09 | Zig | to confuse ;0 |
| 21:00:36 | Widget | [TeA]: Übersetzst du es. |
| 21:01:03 | Zig | ? |
| 21:01:18 | Widget | [TeA]: Zum Deutsch. |
| 21:01:25 | Zig | English please |
| 21:01:40 | [TeA] | widget: warum |
| 21:01:47 | [TeA] | zig: ... why i said |
| 21:01:52 | Widget | [TeA]: Behebst Sie mein Deutsche. |
| 21:01:58 | [TeA] | ? |
| 21:02:02 | [TeA] | widget |
| 21:02:06 | [TeA] | whats that |
| 21:02:07 | Widget | [TeA]: Bitte. |
| 21:02:15 | [TeA] | what does that mean |
| 21:02:22 | Widget | Isn't "Beheben" "to correct"? |
| 21:02:23 | [TeA] | behebst |
| 21:02:27 | [TeA] | yes |
| 21:02:35 | [TeA] | correct is : |
| 21:02:47 | [TeA] | Koennen sie mein Deutsch verbessern |
| 21:03:02 | [TeA] | #German-Lesson-with-TeA |
| 21:03:03 | Widget | I thought "sie" was "she". |
| 21:04:01 | Widget | That means "can you improve my German", right? |
| 21:04:11 | Widget | But I was talking about correcting my previous sentences. |
| 21:18:04 | Widget | Hi, twee_. |
| 21:18:12 | | hello, twee_ |
| 21:18:12 | twee_ | hi |
| 21:18:25 | Widget | Le Confédération Helvetique? |
| 21:18:37 | twee_ | si |
| 21:18:43 | twee_ | tu? |
| 21:19:09 | Widget | Je suis neozelandese. |
| 21:19:38 | twee_ | quoi? |
| 21:19:42 | [TeA] | hallo twee na wie gehts |
| 21:19:42 | Widget | Hm.... tu parles italien? |
| 21:19:52 | arathorn | hi all |
| 21:19:54 | twee_ | non, pas trop;-) |
| 21:19:54 | Widget | Ou l'allemand suisse? |
| 21:20:02 | twee_ | oi;-) |
| 21:20:05 | twee_ | oui |
| 21:20:11 | Widget | Ou le plus belle langue.... le français. :) |
| 21:20:15 | Widget | Er.... |
| 21:20:17 | Widget | Le plus beau. |
| 21:20:28 | Widget | [TeA] est allemand. |
| 21:20:29 | twee_ | la lague, non? |
| 21:20:32 | twee_ | langue |
| 21:20:37 | Widget | Le langue. |
| 21:20:42 | Widget | C'est masculin, je croix. |
| 21:20:55 | twee_ | t'est sur? |
| 21:20:58 | arathorn | Widget:tu parli italiano? |
| 21:21:07 | Widget | arathorn: Non. := |
| 21:21:19 | twee_ | [TeA]: gut, und dir? |
| 21:21:21 | arathorn | Widget:pecato |
| 21:21:27 | Widget | twee_: Oh.... non. |
| 21:21:42 | twee_ | alors, je vais voir;-) |
| 21:21:49 | Widget | twee_: J'ai fair une erreur. |
| 21:21:53 | Widget | fait |
| 21:22:05 | | almogaver was last seen on #tuxscreen 12 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Tue Jul 9 01:24:13 2002] |
| 21:22:05 | arathorn | ibot:seen almogaver or t-34 |
| 21:22:11 | [TeA] | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:22:12 | bzbot | b-ball (Green):4 (40 wins, 36 losses). @rcy (Red):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). Creatix (Red):0 (5 wins, 5 losses). M1 (Red):31 (169 wins, 138 losses). Zig (Red):4 (23 wins, 19 losses). nobody (Green):-28 (34 wins, 62 losses). |
| 21:22:41 | | t-34 was last seen on #bzflag 2 hours, 26 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: bye [Sun Jul 21 19:56:11 2002] |
| 21:22:41 | arathorn | ibot:seen t-34 |
| 21:22:48 | Widget | L'allemand suisse, c'est très different que l'allemand parlé en Allemagne? |
| 21:22:56 | arathorn | dam i miss him:(( |
| 21:23:51 | twee_ | oui, je dirais |
| 21:24:27 | twee_ | alors, c'est LA langage;-) |
| 21:24:39 | twee_ | feminin |
| 21:25:04 | twee_ | Widget: tu parles combien de langages? |
| 21:25:05 | Widget | Oui, j'ai dit que j'ai fait une erreur. |
| 21:25:20 | twee_ | un erreur;-) |
| 21:25:34 | Widget | Non, une erreur. |
| 21:25:43 | Widget | Je suis sûr. |
| 21:25:52 | twee_ | oui, t'as raison... |
| 21:26:00 | twee_ | ;-) |
| 21:26:20 | Widget | Ma mére est née en Suisse. Prés de Lausanne. |
| 21:26:35 | twee_ | ah oui? c'est ou je fais mes etudes! |
| 21:27:14 | Widget | Tu habites à Lausanne maintenant? |
| 21:27:49 | captain_proton | admires the tournament ladder |
| 21:28:01 | twee_ | oui. ou moins de temps a temps;-) |
| 21:28:15 | twee_ | et toi, tu habite ou? |
| 21:28:19 | twee_ | habites |
| 21:28:36 | Widget | twee_: En Nouvelle-Zélande. |
| 21:28:41 | Widget | twee_: Invercargill. |
| 21:28:53 | Widget | twee_: Si tu veux practiquer ton italien, tu peux parler avec arathorn ici. :) |
| 21:28:57 | twee_ | ah oui,, j'ai oublie. pardon. |
| 21:29:58 | Widget | twee_: Les étudiants en Suisse.... ils apprennent tous les trois langues nationales? |
| 21:31:02 | Widget | hihihihi, paul. |
| 21:31:09 | twee_ | hmm, en fete, je suis heureux si je comprends quelques mots en italien;-) |
| 21:33:38 | Widget | Hm.... c'est le premier fois que t'as visité ce canal? |
| 21:33:43 | Zig | ferme la bouche |
| 21:33:49 | Zig | espece d'idiote? |
| 21:33:50 | Widget | Haha. |
| 21:33:52 | twee_ | Widget: non, italien pas;-( c'est facultativ. tu appris francais parce que ta mere parle? |
| 21:33:57 | twee_ | tu as appris |
| 21:34:02 | Zig | heh |
| 21:34:18 | twee_ | qoui Zig? |
| 21:34:27 | Zig | ..? |
| 21:34:31 | twee_ | Widget: non;-) |
| 21:34:50 | twee_ | Zig: t'as dit aoi??? |
| 21:34:50 | Widget | twee_: Et aussi, quelques relations.. |
| 21:34:52 | twee_ | qoi |
| 21:34:58 | Zig | scroll up |
| 21:35:15 | Zig | ferme la bouche |
| 21:35:15 | Zig | <Zig> espece d'idiote? |
| 21:35:15 | Zig | <Widget> Haha. |
| 21:35:16 | Zig | <twee_> Widget: non, italien pas;-( c'est facultativ. tu appris francais parce que ta mere parle? |
| 21:35:16 | Zig | <twee_> tu as appris |
| 21:35:16 | Zig | <Zig> heh |
| 21:35:18 | Zig | <twee_> qoui Zig? |
| 21:35:20 | Zig | *** jzaun has joined #BZFlag |
| 21:35:22 | Zig | <Zig> ..? |
| 21:35:24 | Zig | <twee_> Widget: non;-) |
| 21:35:26 | Zig | <twee_> Zig: t'as dit aoi??? |
| 21:35:28 | Zig | <Widget> twee_: Et aussi, quelques relations.. |
| 21:35:30 | Zig | <twee_> qoi |
| 21:35:32 | Zig | <Zig> scroll up |
| 21:35:34 | Zig | fuck |
| 21:35:36 | Zig | too many |
| 21:35:37 | captain_proton | jzaun: any progress? |
| 21:35:38 | Zig | rofl |
| 21:35:41 | Zig | ferme la bouche |
| 21:35:42 | Zig | <Zig> espece d'idiote |
| 21:35:45 | Zig | there we go |
| 21:35:49 | Widget | Zig montre son maîtrise de français. := |
| 21:35:50 | jzaun | captain_proton: nope still won't compile |
| 21:35:56 | Zig | no |
| 21:35:57 | Zig | english |
| 21:36:02 | jzaun | StateDatabase.cxx: In function `std::istream& operator>>(std::istream&, StateDatabase::ExpressionToken&)': |
| 21:36:03 | jzaun | StateDatabase.cxx:389: no match for `std::basic_istream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& >> char&' operator |
| 21:36:03 | jzaun | StateDatabase.cxx:385: candidates are: std::istream& operator>>(std::istream&, StateDatabase::ExpressionToken&) |
| 21:36:03 | jzaun | ../../include/StateDatabase.h:176: std::string& operator>>(std::string&, StateDatabase::ExpressionToken&) |
| 21:36:11 | twee_ | Zig: pas mal... |
| 21:36:16 | Widget | Zig: English? C'est quoi, ça? |
| 21:36:23 | Zig | a better language |
| 21:36:29 | Zig | or i can use my limited korean slang |
| 21:36:35 | twee_ | Zig: ;-) |
| 21:36:36 | Zig | english is too gosu for french, |
| 21:36:40 | Zig | french is hasu |
| 21:36:52 | Widget | Qui est parlé par 6.8% de la population du monde. := |
| 21:37:03 | Zig | and english? |
| 21:37:09 | Widget | Non, c'est l'anglais. |
| 21:37:11 | Zig | English is the international language |
| 21:37:19 | twee_ | Widget: ton amie/femme parle francais? |
| 21:37:20 | Widget | Or so the English speakers would like to believe. |
| 21:37:24 | Zig | yes |
| 21:37:42 | twee_ | well, every language is nice;-) |
| 21:37:55 | twee_ | german too |
| 21:38:02 | Zig | ;0 |
| 21:38:09 | twee_ | Zig: ;-) |
| 21:38:16 | twee_ | sure |
| 21:38:21 | Zig | twee_: :0 |
| 21:38:26 | Widget | twee_: Non, je suis le seul dans ma lycée. (excepté les étudiants qui prennaient le français). |
| 21:38:42 | Zig | why would learn french is new zealand |
| 21:38:45 | Zig | you |
| 21:38:47 | Widget | Zig: 6.8% of the world's population speaks English. That means 93.2% don't. |
| 21:38:56 | jzaun | captain_proton: I haven't even see an error anything like that before.... whats it mean? |
| 21:38:56 | Widget | Zig: My mom's from Switzerland. |
| 21:39:02 | Zig | ah |
| 21:39:19 | Widget | Zig: Why would you speak Korean in America? |
| 21:39:20 | Zig | 6.8% is more than french |
| 21:39:24 | captain_proton | jzaun: its something having to do with sgi iostreams - misplacing the >> char function |
| 21:39:27 | paul | Widget: that statistic: is that for first language? |
| 21:39:28 | Widget | Zig: Ça, c'est vrai. |
| 21:39:31 | Widget | paul: No. |
| 21:39:31 | Zig | no, i speak bad korean slang |
| 21:39:39 | Widget | paul: Non-native speakers included. |
| 21:39:54 | paul | Widget: i reckon english must one of the most popular /second/ languages. |
| 21:39:55 | Widget | paul: If they conform to US Foreign Service proficiency level of 4 or above. |
| 21:39:55 | jzaun | captain_proton: does it compile for you? |
| 21:40:00 | Widget | paul: That is true. |
| 21:40:00 | Zig | what about the monkey that learned sign language |
| 21:40:04 | Widget | paul: Well.... Maybe not. |
| 21:40:12 | Widget | paul: Many Cantonese, etc. in China learned Mandarin. |
| 21:40:17 | paul | spanish and french the other most popular second languages. |
| 21:40:21 | twee_ | hmm, i don't know, but i think frech is also very widely spoken => africa |
| 21:40:26 | Zig | pff |
| 21:40:27 | Zig | english more |
| 21:40:29 | twee_ | french |
| 21:40:32 | Widget | Well, I speak Chinese, English and French so I can communicate with more people than all of you! |
| 21:40:40 | paul | Widget: :) |
| 21:40:43 | Zig | yep |
| 21:40:45 | twee_ | u're sure, Widget ? |
| 21:40:47 | Zig | but i can speak very bad sign language |
| 21:40:50 | paul | but you studied linguistics or somesuch didnt you? :) |
| 21:40:53 | Widget | twee_: Of what? |
| 21:40:54 | Zig | so ican communicate with select chimpanzees |
| 21:41:01 | Zig | so there ;0 |
| 21:41:07 | twee_ | ...than all of you...? |
| 21:41:15 | twee_ | Zig: ;-) |
| 21:41:27 | Widget | Well, a milliard of people speak Chinese. |
| 21:41:31 | Widget | More than that. |
| 21:41:37 | Zig | how much is a milliard |
| 21:41:41 | Widget | American billion. |
| 21:41:46 | Zig | ah |
| 21:41:50 | Widget | International billion, actually. |
| 21:41:51 | Zig | i thought it was a thousand million |
| 21:41:54 | paul | ok... but /second/ language. obviously everyone who can speak has a native language. |
| 21:41:55 | Widget | But I just like using "milliard". |
| 21:41:55 | twee_ | well yes, u're right |
| 21:41:59 | Widget | Yes, it's a thousand million. |
| 21:42:03 | captain_proton | english is more geographically spread than any other language |
| 21:42:12 | Widget | captain_proton: That's hard to measure. |
| 21:42:20 | twee_ | captain_proton: no |
| 21:42:23 | Widget | captain_proton: After all, you have people in Vietnam speaking French. |
| 21:42:23 | captain_proton | 1/5 of the world's population may speak chinese, but most of them happen to live in china |
| 21:42:37 | captain_proton | in general |
| 21:42:44 | Widget | captain_proton: And people in S. America speaking Spanish. And French, in French Guyana. |
| 21:42:56 | Zig | pff |
| 21:42:56 | twee_ | Africa: french |
| 21:43:02 | Zig | no |
| 21:43:04 | captain_proton | there are pockets of similar languages |
| 21:43:04 | Zig | #$ |
| 21:43:10 | captain_proton | but english is -everywhere- |
| 21:43:12 | twee_ | europe: french |
| 21:43:13 | Zig | yes |
| 21:43:15 | Zig | NO |
| 21:43:20 | Widget | Seulement le part du nord. |
| 21:43:23 | Zig | just france and a select few |
| 21:43:30 | Widget | And Switzerland, and Belgium. |
| 21:43:34 | Zig | Europe has tons of languages |
| 21:43:38 | Widget | And... schoolkids in Germany learn it too. |
| 21:43:43 | Widget | You can take either French or Latin. |
| 21:43:46 | Widget | Most people take French. |
| 21:43:46 | twee_ | well, yes... and english isn't everywhere, too! |
| 21:43:50 | Zig | or Chimpanzee |
| 21:43:52 | Widget | Contrarians like Chestal take Latin. |
| 21:44:04 | paul | if you go to a country, chances are that other than the native language (presuming it is not a former colony of france, england, spain or portugal) your best chance of communication is english. |
| 21:44:14 | Zig | yep |
| 21:44:15 | Widget | You know what one of the biggest English speaking nations is? India. And in India, only 5% of the population speaks English. |
| 21:44:18 | twee_ | paul: true |
| 21:44:24 | Zig | no |
| 21:44:25 | Widget | However, that 5% is larger than the populations of Australia and NZ combines. |
| 21:44:28 | Widget | Combined. |
| 21:44:31 | paul | wow. |
| 21:44:31 | Zig | wrong |
| 21:44:34 | Widget | 5% of a billion. |
| 21:44:42 | Widget | Zig: Right. |
| 21:44:44 | Zig | what about US |
| 21:44:49 | Zig | they are largest english speaking nation |
| 21:44:50 | paul | aha... |
| 21:44:52 | paul | course |
| 21:44:53 | Zig | like 99.9% |
| 21:44:55 | Widget | Zig: I said _one_ of the biggest. |
| 21:44:56 | paul | no.. hang on |
| 21:44:56 | Zig | 300 mil |
| 21:44:59 | Widget | Zig: Not the biggest. |
| 21:45:02 | paul | that's only 280M or so. |
| 21:45:16 | twee_ | Widget: biggest = nr. of inhabitants? |
| 21:45:18 | Widget | 285 million, or os. |
| 21:45:19 | Zig | pff |
| 21:45:21 | Widget | twee_: Yes. |
| 21:45:21 | captain_proton | Widget: however, its not like the other 95% all speak the same language |
| 21:45:25 | jzaun | captain_proton: Can that line be split into 2 lines? |
| 21:45:30 | Widget | captain_proton: 45% speak Hindi, though. |
| 21:45:35 | paul | Widget: would there be more than 300M english speakers in india and pakistan? |
| 21:45:38 | Zig | stop with your statistics |
| 21:45:43 | Widget | paul: Probably not. |
| 21:45:45 | Zig | all biased in your own way |
| 21:45:48 | paul | then its USA. |
| 21:45:56 | Widget | What, it was just an interesting tidbit. |
| 21:45:59 | captain_proton | Widget: 'hindi' comprises about 300 different toungues |
| 21:46:02 | Zig | 2% of India doesnt even speak |
| 21:46:09 | Zig | see i can manipulate statistics too |
| 21:46:09 | Widget | captain_proton: Er... no it doesn't. |
| 21:46:19 | twee_ | Zig: come on |
| 21:46:24 | Zig | what |
| 21:46:25 | Zig | its true |
| 21:46:32 | twee_ | it's NOT true |
| 21:46:35 | paul | and of course, the most geographically diverse people after the chinese (there being chinese restaurants all over the globe) are the irish. |
| 21:46:36 | Zig | yes |
| 21:46:40 | Widget | captain_proton: Hindi is the Official Language of the states of Delhi, Uttar Pradesh (UP) and Madhya Pradesh. |
| 21:46:41 | Zig | Lots of people cant talk |
| 21:46:42 | captain_proton | Widget: they're all similar, but yes, it dies |
| 21:46:52 | Zig | you're not born with speech you know ;) |
| 21:46:54 | Widget | captain_proton: If they're intellegible, they're dialects, not languages. |
| 21:46:55 | twee_ | Zig: but never 2% in India |
| 21:47:05 | Widget | captain_proton: The standard dialect is called Khari Bholi. |
| 21:47:09 | twee_ | Zig: nice one, then;-) |
| 21:47:09 | Zig | im saying 2% havent learned speech yet |
| 21:47:13 | Widget | captain_proton: Ap Hindi bolte haim? |
| 21:47:28 | Widget | Zig: Yes, you're right, English is very prevalent... especially on the Internet. |
| 21:47:35 | [TeA] | how about a little game on 59999 |
| 21:47:36 | captain_proton | goes to do something more productive, like banging his head against the wall |
| 21:47:38 | Zig | ;0 |
| 21:47:42 | Zig | yep |
| 21:47:44 | Widget | Zig: I was just noting that it's amazing that in India, where 5% of the population speaks English.... |
| 21:47:47 | [TeA] | Widget and i vs zig and twee |
| 21:47:53 | Widget | Zig: We have more English speakers than Australia and NZ combined. |
| 21:48:03 | Zig | you are Indian? |
| 21:48:03 | [TeA] | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 21:48:04 | paul | Widget: who's 'we'? |
| 21:48:04 | twee_ | stop it, plz |
| 21:48:04 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 21:48:06 | Widget | Oz has 17 million people... We have 3.5. |
| 21:48:10 | jzaun | captain_proton: don't hurt your brain yet... 1.8 isn't out :-P |
| 21:48:22 | [TeA] | jazaun ? |
| 21:48:22 | Zig | yes |
| 21:48:22 | paul | 3.5? same amount of people as here in eire. |
| 21:48:23 | Widget | No, I was using the... er.... |
| 21:48:27 | Widget | Non real person "we". |
| 21:48:30 | [TeA] | Zig jzaun and widget |
| 21:48:32 | Zig | tsk tsk |
| 21:48:36 | [TeA] | 59999 |
| 21:48:36 | Widget | The... "we" as equivalent to "one". |
| 21:48:39 | [TeA] | meat ya there |
| 21:48:41 | [TeA] | ok |
| 21:48:47 | Widget | paul: You have only 3.5 million people too? |
| 21:48:52 | Widget | OK. |
| 21:48:55 | paul | not including NI - yes. |
| 21:48:56 | Widget | Shall we play [TeA] on ducati? |
| 21:49:00 | [TeA] | yes |
| 21:49:00 | paul | about 1.5 to 2M in NI. |
| 21:49:01 | Zig | i have 30 mil, and a 50k army |
| 21:49:03 | Zig | stay away |
| 21:49:03 | [TeA] | 59999 |
| 21:49:07 | paul | go on zig! :) |
| 21:49:15 | [TeA] | c ya there |
| 21:49:18 | [TeA] | 59999 |
| 21:49:19 | Zig | our 50 000 soldiers will fight you off |
| 21:49:22 | jzaun | How many people in here can speak Gernam? |
| 21:49:24 | Widget | paul: Wow. |
| 21:49:28 | twee_ | ich |
| 21:49:30 | Zig | uh |
| 21:49:32 | Zig | ja?? |
| 21:49:32 | Widget | paul: And the UK has over 60 million. |
| 21:49:40 | paul | Widget: the strange thing is that ireland has far fewer people now than it did over a hundred years ago. |
| 21:49:44 | jzaun | wish I still could :-( |
| 21:49:59 | twee_ | Zig: u speak german, too???? |
| 21:50:03 | Zig | ja |
| 21:50:07 | Widget | Zig spricht nicht Deutsch. |
| 21:50:11 | paul | population of southern ireland was about 6M in the mid 1800s. |
| 21:50:15 | Zig | .. |
| 21:50:16 | paul | now it's 3.5M |
| 21:50:16 | Zig | ja |
| 21:50:27 | twee_ | Zig: hmm... |
| 21:50:29 | Widget | paul: CIA factbook says 3.8. |
| 21:50:33 | Zig | NO |
| 21:50:34 | Zig | rofl |
| 21:50:36 | Zig | cia.gov |
| 21:50:37 | [TeA] | ??? |
| 21:50:38 | Zig | i hate that thing |
| 21:50:38 | Widget | paul: Is it because of the blight, or somesuch? |
| 21:50:42 | [TeA] | were now |
| 21:50:45 | paul | Widget: could well be, yes. |
| 21:50:46 | [TeA] | were are ya |
| 21:50:58 | Zig | I used CIA factbook too :) |
| 21:51:00 | Widget | WHo wants to crush [TeA]? |
| 21:51:08 | Zig | im eating soon |
| 21:51:11 | Widget | Curses. |
| 21:51:14 | Zig | ja |
| 21:51:16 | Widget | Eating? |
| 21:51:19 | Zig | ja |
| 21:51:22 | Widget | I will be eating soon too. |
| 21:51:23 | paul | Widget: yes. during the potato famines about 1M or more died, lot more went to US. |
| 21:51:27 | [TeA] | ducati.bzflag.org:59999 [TeA|TrEE] and Widget ( ReD) vs Zig and paul ore so GREEN |
| 21:51:32 | Zig | wait |
| 21:51:35 | [TeA] | ok ? |
| 21:51:37 | Zig | Is this official bz matcH? |
| 21:51:39 | Zig | or for fun |
| 21:51:40 | Widget | No. |
| 21:51:40 | [TeA] | no |
| 21:51:42 | Widget | Just for fun. |
| 21:51:44 | [TeA] | dun |
| 21:51:46 | [TeA] | fun |
| 21:51:47 | twee_ | i come, too |
| 21:51:47 | Zig | okay, until i have to eat |
| 21:51:54 | [TeA] | ok c ya there |
| 21:51:56 | [TeA] | twee come aswell |
| 21:52:00 | Widget | paul: What's the land area of Ireland? |
| 21:52:15 | Widget | paul: 68,890 sq km |
| 21:52:20 | Widget | paul: According to CIA factbook. |
| 21:52:41 | paul | guess it must be. |
| 21:52:41 | twee_ | ireland is a very nice country... |
| 21:52:44 | Widget | paul: Wow.... NZ is smaller than Ireland. |
| 21:52:49 | paul | yep.. |
| 21:52:53 | Widget | Wow. I thought Ireland was quite large. |
| 21:52:55 | paul | most of ireland is empty |
| 21:53:03 | twee_ | but it's nice;-) |
| 21:53:07 | paul | (hundred years it wasnt) |
| 21:53:11 | paul | (hundred years ago it wasnt) |
| 21:53:15 | Widget | hihihi ^john |
| 21:53:24 | paul | twee_: yeah i like ireland :) |
| 21:53:26 | Widget | ^john: Zig went to eat dinner 5 minutes ago. |
| 21:53:31 | paul | twee_: you been here i take it? |
| 21:53:31 | ^jh^ | oh |
| 21:53:42 | ^jh^ | hour to go right? |
| 21:53:48 | Widget | ^jh^: I think. |
| 21:53:57 | Widget | paul is a Hibernian. |
| 21:54:03 | paul | :) |
| 21:54:12 | paul | you did a whois on me then? :) |
| 21:54:22 | Widget | No. But I read Asterix. |
| 21:54:30 | paul | haha |
| 21:54:35 | Widget | Up with the Pax Romana! Down with the Caledonians, Gauls and Hibernians! |
| 21:54:38 | paul | Caledonia is? |
| 21:54:43 | Widget | Scotland. |
| 21:54:57 | paul | where did St. Patrick come from? |
| 21:55:03 | Widget | Ireland, I suppose? |
| 21:55:06 | paul | wales. |
| 21:55:09 | Widget | Oh. |
| 21:55:13 | Zig | ;0 |
| 21:55:20 | Zig | <--- food |
| 21:55:22 | Widget | St. George's cross is England's symbol, yes? |
| 21:55:37 | paul | taken as a slave by the romans, and either the romans brought him to ireland and he escaped, or he escaped and went to ireland. |
| 21:55:39 | Widget | And St. Andrew's is Scotlands? |
| 21:55:43 | paul | think so, yes. |
| 21:55:58 | Widget | S P Q R |
| 21:56:07 | Widget | Senatus Populusque Romanus |
| 21:56:11 | paul | aha.. |
| 21:56:30 | captain_proton | haha pax romana is such an oxymoron |
| 21:56:44 | Widget | Ave Cæsar! |
| 21:56:59 | Widget | captain_proton: Latinam doctum es, nonne? |
| 21:57:06 | paul | who was the gaul that led them against the romans (and was defeated) |
| 21:57:12 | Widget | Vercingetorix. |
| 21:57:16 | captain_proton | Widget: no |
| 21:57:21 | paul | another one from asterix :) |
| 21:57:23 | Widget | captain_proton: Yes, it was Vercingetorix. |
| 21:57:32 | captain_proton | Widget: wrong question |
| 21:57:35 | Widget | captain_proton: Oh. |
| 21:57:35 | captain_proton | <Widget> captain_proton: Latinam doctum es, nonne? |
| 21:57:38 | Widget | Ah. |
| 21:57:51 | paul | it was.. romans built a huge palisade round where he was dug in and starved him out |
| 21:58:00 | paul | iirc |
| 21:58:10 | Widget | paul: Have you read Asterix chez les Britons? |
| 21:58:13 | Widget | paul: That was the best. |
| 21:58:16 | paul | long time ago |
| 21:58:26 | Widget | paul: "Je dis, plutôt" |
| 21:58:38 | paul | i would probably have read it in dutch. |
| 21:58:39 | Widget | paul: It isn't funny unless you read the French version. |
| 21:58:45 | Widget | Do you read Tintin? |
| 21:58:47 | Widget | Kuifje? |
| 21:59:02 | paul | kuifje: only one or two. |
| 21:59:14 | Widget | Bobby. |
| 21:59:14 | paul | my favourite was 'Suske en Wiske' (red cover) |
| 21:59:24 | Widget | Where did they come up with the name Kuifje? |
| 21:59:25 | ^jh^ | 2 bots in here? |
| 21:59:31 | Widget | What is the translation of Suske en Wiske? |
| 21:59:36 | Widget | ^jh^: Haha. |
| 21:59:46 | ^jh^ | what |
| 21:59:53 | paul | a 'kuifje' is best translated as "cow's lick" - that flicked up lock of hair he has. |
| 21:59:54 | Widget | ^jh^: Yes. bzbot and ibot. |
| 22:00:00 | Widget | Ah.. hehe. |
| 22:00:04 | Widget | They should have used Tintin. |
| 22:00:06 | ^jh^ | what about chanserv |
| 22:00:09 | Widget | Thought themselves clever, did they? |
| 22:00:13 | Widget | ^jh^: Oh. That makes three. |
| 22:00:22 | paul | "Suske en Wiske" -> just 2 names. It was a belgian 'comic'. |
| 22:00:28 | Widget | paul: Ah. |
| 22:00:34 | Widget | paul: Which Kuifjes did you read? |
| 22:01:09 | Widget | Les bds belges sont les meilleurs. :) |
| 22:01:10 | paul | Suske en Wiske where a brother and sister, and there was Sidona (mother), Lambik en Jerome (2 friends of Sidone) and a professor whose name i cant remember. |
| 22:01:20 | paul | i remember the one where they where in a desert.. |
| 22:01:30 | paul | and one where they went to space (kuifje now) |
| 22:01:43 | paul | but it was a long time ago.. |
| 22:01:55 | Widget | Le crabe aux pinces d'or took place in the desert. |
| 22:02:00 | paul | that's the one. |
| 22:02:09 | Widget | And the ones where they went to space.. it was a two book series. |
| 22:02:10 | paul | something to do with a crab alright. |
| 22:02:20 | paul | http://suskeenwiske.library.uu.nl/ |
| 22:02:26 | Widget | Objectif Lune.... |
| 22:02:38 | paul | might have been it. |
| 22:02:46 | Widget | And On a marché sur la lune. |
| 22:02:49 | Widget | Sequels. |
| 22:03:06 | Widget | The English titles are "Destination Moon" and "Explorers on the Moon". |
| 22:03:14 | paul | dont remember... i would have been maybe 7 or 8 when i read it. so its a long time ago. :) |
| 22:03:19 | Widget | Hehe. |
| 22:03:59 | twee_ | paul: sorry, was away. no, i don't live in Ireland! |
| 22:04:18 | paul | twee_: but you've been here, was my question? |
| 22:04:36 | twee_ | sorry. yes, i was in Ireland. do you live there? |
| 22:04:53 | paul | i think so, yes :) |
| 22:04:59 | paul | where did you go? |
| 22:05:23 | twee_ | that's nice! i was in dublin and galway |
| 22:05:54 | Zig | . |
| 22:05:56 | twee_ | not much... but i liked it |
| 22:06:21 | ^jh^ | hey zig |
| 22:06:45 | twee_ | paul: u live where? |
| 22:06:54 | twee_ | ;-( |
| 22:06:55 | paul | leixlip, kildare. |
| 22:07:16 | twee_ | what? and that's in ireland? |
| 22:07:21 | paul | irelands a grand place, as long as you dont mind rain. |
| 22:07:26 | paul | about 20km west of dublin. |
| 22:07:33 | twee_ | ahm thanks;-) |
| 22:07:39 | Zig | hi jh |
| 22:07:44 | Widget | Yay. |
| 22:07:46 | Widget | Whole team here. |
| 22:07:53 | Widget | Now where are those cowardly avengers? |
| 22:07:54 | paul | leixlip -> norse for 'Salmon's Leip' i believe. |
| 22:07:59 | twee_ | yes... it's a bit rainy, but... it doesn't matter |
| 22:08:04 | Zig | rain is nice |
| 22:08:06 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:08:06 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:08:12 | paul | you get used to it. |
| 22:08:17 | Widget | You haven't seen Rain unless you've been to Dunedin. |
| 22:08:18 | Zig | it beats snow |
| 22:08:19 | Widget | (In NZ) |
| 22:08:36 | paul | dunedin? (NZ?) |
| 22:08:37 | twee_ | paul: i think so. does it rain +/- every day? |
| 22:08:50 | paul | not /every/ day. :) |
| 22:08:57 | Zig | heh |
| 22:08:58 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 22:08:58 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:09:06 | twee_ | Zig: _nothing_ beats snow;-) |
| 22:09:09 | paul | but it rains a lot. we've had one of the wettest summers on record this year. |
| 22:09:17 | Zig | unless you deal with it for 4-5 months a year |
| 22:09:28 | paul | Widget: so what's so special about dunedin wrt to rain? |
| 22:09:35 | twee_ | Zig:u live in the north of the usa?` |
| 22:09:41 | Zig | Ottawa, Canada |
| 22:09:48 | Zig | ;0 |
| 22:09:52 | Widget | paul: It's horrible. |
| 22:10:04 | paul | http://www.met.ie/climate/ |
| 22:10:08 | twee_ | Uff, Canada! |
| 22:10:20 | Zig | yes ;) |
| 22:10:29 | Widget | paul: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=366867 |
| 22:10:33 | twee_ | Zig: have cousin there |
| 22:10:39 | Zig | what city |
| 22:10:41 | twee_ | i'd like to go someday |
| 22:10:45 | Zig | or area |
| 22:10:51 | twee_ | vancouver |
| 22:11:14 | Zig | ah |
| 22:11:17 | Zig | other side of the country |
| 22:11:21 | paul | Widget: what's the yearly rainfall? |
| 22:11:22 | twee_ | yes;-) |
| 22:11:45 | Zig | heh, the irony is Vancouver gets one of the highest amounts of rain per year |
| 22:11:47 | Zig | in Canada |
| 22:11:54 | Widget | paul: 660 ms. |
| 22:12:02 | paul | pah... |
| 22:12:08 | twee_ | Zig: so u can snowboard ... |
| 22:12:16 | paul | Widget: http://www.met.ie/climate/rainfall.asp |
| 22:12:39 | Widget | Eep. |
| 22:12:40 | paul | "Most of the eastern half of the country has between 750 and 1000 millimetres (mm) of rainfall in the year. Rainfall in the west generally averages between 1000 and 1250 mm." |
| 22:12:43 | Widget | Well, at least it's not as cold. |
| 22:12:59 | Widget | For instance, what temperature is it now? |
| 22:13:07 | twee_ | don't trust any statistics which u haven't maniulated for yourself... |
| 22:13:07 | paul | some places get more than 2000mm of rain per year. |
| 22:13:32 | paul | at the moment, according to the EIDW METAR it is 14 degrees C |
| 22:13:44 | Widget | Here, it's about 0. |
| 22:14:00 | paul | twee_: those statistics are from the irish meteorological service. |
| 22:14:15 | twee_ | paul: ;-) |
| 22:14:26 | paul | Widget: yeah, but at least it's not raining where you are! :) |
| 22:14:43 | Widget | paul: It rained two weeks ago. All week. |
| 22:14:55 | Widget | paul: In any case, I wouldn't mind the rain, if it would get a bit warmer. |
| 22:15:05 | twee_ | Widget: What is the T.min. you achive in NZ? |
| 22:15:08 | ^jh^ | BRB |
| 22:15:10 | paul | Widget: only for a week? |
| 22:15:17 | jzaun | captain_proton: #C++ seems to think "Looks like you need to overload operator>> for your data types." in regards to the errors |
| 22:15:28 | paul | Widget: its winter where you are right? |
| 22:15:34 | Widget | paul: Yes. |
| 22:15:52 | jzaun | captain_proton: "std::istream & operator>>(std::istream & in, YourClass & obj);" |
| 22:16:04 | jzaun | captain_proton: That function may need to be a friend of YourClass. |
| 22:16:15 | jzaun | if any of that makes sense to you... |
| 22:16:25 | paul | Widget: well come to ireland in the winter/spring if you want /really/ want to experience rain. :) |
| 22:16:30 | captain_proton | jzaun: it is a friend |
| 22:16:37 | twee_ | Widget: how cold does it get in NZ? |
| 22:16:48 | captain_proton | friend std::istream& operator >> (std::istream& src, ExpressionToken& dst); |
| 22:16:51 | Widget | twee_: At the coldest... perhaps -5 º? |
| 22:17:15 | Widget | twee_: Much colder a bit north of here. |
| 22:17:18 | [TeA] | 1:22 am here |
| 22:17:24 | Zig | owned |
| 22:17:25 | twee_ | paul: and in Ireland? |
| 22:17:25 | Widget | twee_: Where it it mountanous. |
| 22:17:38 | twee_ | Widget: how heigh are the mountains? |
| 22:17:56 | Widget | twee_: I have no idea. |
| 22:18:03 | twee_ | Widget: ;-) |
| 22:18:20 | twee_ | paul: do you have snow in the winter? |
| 22:18:25 | paul | rare.. |
| 22:18:38 | twee_ | not even in the north? |
| 22:18:39 | paul | every couple of years we might get a day of snow. |
| 22:18:51 | paul | more in the north and in high places obviously. |
| 22:18:52 | Widget | twee_: Ah, 3800 m is the highest point, it seems. |
| 22:19:05 | captain_proton | jzaun: pm me the error again |
| 22:19:09 | twee_ | wow. |
| 22:19:33 | Widget | Nothing compared to the Swiss Alps. |
| 22:19:54 | Mime | or the Himalayas |
| 22:20:10 | Widget | But never forget that Sir Edmund Hillary was a Kiwi! |
| 22:20:13 | twee_ | Widget: hmm, the alps aren't much higher |
| 22:20:16 | Widget | And so is Russell Crowe. |
| 22:20:28 | paul | pah... |
| 22:20:30 | twee_ | Widget: yes, it was Hillary;-) |
| 22:20:56 | paul | computers, the internet, etc.. |
| 22:21:05 | paul | all built on Boolean logic. |
| 22:21:05 | Widget | In fact.... |
| 22:21:14 | Widget | Yesterday was Sir Edmund Hillary's 83rd Birthday! |
| 22:21:22 | paul | And Boole was anglo-irish. (his house is still in Cork) |
| 22:21:24 | Widget | Happy Birthday, Sir Edmund Hillary! |
| 22:21:48 | paul | didnt his sherpa do most of the hard work :) |
| 22:21:53 | twee_ | Widget: m is the highest point in CH4634 |
| 22:22:02 | paul | (what was the sherpa's name again???) |
| 22:22:33 | Widget | Norgay. |
| 22:22:34 | Widget | I think. |
| 22:22:42 | Widget | Tenzing Norgay? |
| 22:22:46 | paul | yeah, that sounds familiar. |
| 22:22:58 | twee_ | yes, it was Tenzing |
| 22:23:12 | paul | what's a gurkree? |
| 22:23:18 | twee_ | he broke the contract with hillary |
| 22:23:21 | paul | (hope i spelled that right) |
| 22:23:23 | Widget | paul: A gurkha? |
| 22:23:34 | paul | it's the knife they carry. |
| 22:23:39 | Widget | Yes. |
| 22:23:45 | Widget | paul: A Nepalese tribe. And also a division in the British Army. |
| 22:23:53 | Widget | paul: It is also used to describe the knife they carry. |
| 22:24:09 | Widget | Whenever they take out their knife, they must draw blood somewhere. |
| 22:24:18 | Widget | So if they show it to someone, they nick their own finger before they put it back. |
| 22:24:33 | paul | no, the knife has a slightly different name. (i can pronounce it, but cant remember the spelling, sounds like gurkree anyway) |
| 22:24:42 | paul | Widget: ouch. :) |
| 22:25:02 | Zig | pwned |
| 22:25:06 | Widget | I think kinds like to repeatedly ask them to show them the knife. |
| 22:25:18 | paul | 'kinds'? |
| 22:25:38 | Widget | Kids. |
| 22:25:43 | twee_ | next summer i plan to go to nepal |
| 22:25:46 | paul | ah.. evil bastards. :) |
| 22:25:52 | twee_ | Widget: u were there? |
| 22:25:56 | Widget | twee_: Nope. |
| 22:26:22 | Widget | twee_: But I have some Indian friends, and many Gurkha's work as guards/police officers etc. in India. |
| 22:26:35 | Widget | Or in the Gurkha regiment. |
| 22:26:45 | Widget | paul: Do you mean a kukri? |
| 22:26:52 | Widget | paul: That is what the knife is called. |
| 22:27:06 | Widget | paul: It was in Tintin as well. :) |
| 22:27:30 | twee_ | Widget: then have been to India? |
| 22:27:36 | Widget | twee_: Nope. |
| 22:27:45 | twee_ | ;-( |
| 22:28:15 | twee_ | Widget: must also be a interesting country |
| 22:28:24 | Widget | Yah. |
| 22:28:31 | Widget | Really big, though. |
| 22:28:35 | twee_ | yes |
| 22:29:52 | twee_ | is slowely getting tired |
| 22:30:13 | paul | Widget: yeah 'kukri' that's it.. i have a terrible memory. |
| 22:30:51 | twee_ | time to get some sleep. cu everyone! |
| 22:31:00 | Widget | Bye, twee_. |
| 22:31:44 | ^jh^ | where are our opponents |
| 22:32:02 | Widget | I donnae know. |
| 22:32:04 | ^jh^ | and is ducati pen? |
| 22:32:07 | ^jh^ | open |
| 22:32:08 | Widget | 15 minutes. |
| 22:32:15 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:32:15 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:32:17 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 22:32:18 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:32:20 | Widget | Yea. |
| 22:32:21 | twee_ | Widget: salue, bien le bonjour a ta mere! |
| 22:32:23 | Zig | who are we playing |
| 22:32:47 | Widget | twee_: Merci, bonne nuit. |
| 22:32:53 | Widget | Er. |
| 22:32:55 | Widget | Bon nuit. |
| 22:33:00 | Zig | ha |
| 22:33:02 | twee_ | Widget: bonne nuit;-) |
| 22:33:04 | Zig | masculin |
| 22:33:07 | Widget | Haha. |
| 22:33:11 | Widget | Feminin. |
| 22:33:18 | captain_proton | checks to see if he's still in #bzflag |
| 22:33:20 | twee_ | feminin |
| 22:33:23 | Widget | Bonne nuit. |
| 22:33:24 | Zig | non |
| 22:33:28 | Zig | ah |
| 22:33:29 | Zig | who cares |
| 22:33:31 | Widget | Ah, t'as raison. |
| 22:33:44 | Widget | Im Kampf gegen Korruption will der madagassische Präsident Marc Ravalomanana die Minister-Gehälter verzehnfachen. Die Gehälter der Amtsträger sollen auf August von derzeit umgerechnet 300 auf 3500 Dollar erhöht werden. |
| 22:34:15 | twee_ | quoi???? |
| 22:34:49 | twee_ | Widget: german? |
| 22:34:57 | Widget | Swiss German. |
| 22:35:06 | twee_ | no, german |
| 22:35:10 | twee_ | ;-) |
| 22:35:12 | Widget | It's from tiscali.ch. |
| 22:35:17 | Zig | Im Kampf gegen Korruption will der madagassische Präsident Marc Ravalomanana die Minister-Gehälter verzehnfachen. Die Gehälter der Amtsträger sollen auf August von derzeit umgerechnet 300 auf 3500 Dollar erhöht werden. |
| 22:35:22 | Zig | ?? |
| 22:35:23 | twee_ | nice:-) |
| 22:35:25 | Zig | what the hell is that? |
| 22:35:30 | Widget | Hallitsetko logojen tai kuvaviestien piirtämisen vaikka unissasi? Ota osaa kuukauden kilpailuun täällä ja voita ylläripalkinto! Viime kuukauden oikea vastaus: Raketin ensimmäiset SMS -palvelut julkaistiin |
| 22:35:36 | Zig | okay |
| 22:35:42 | Zig | Warum sollte ich für die Gehälter irgendeines Präsidenten mich interessieren? |
| 22:35:52 | twee_ | but u know: swiss german isn't written, we use german;-) |
| 22:36:01 | Zig | cough |
| 22:36:03 | Zig | pardon my grammar |
| 22:36:17 | Widget | How about Romansch? |
| 22:36:26 | Widget | How many people speak it? |
| 22:37:00 | Widget | 10 minutes for Annihlation. |
| 22:37:04 | twee_ | well, hard to say... not too many, maybe 3000-5000. u know much (!) about switzerland! |
| 22:37:07 | Widget | Or avengers. |
| 22:37:08 | Widget | Whoever. |
| 22:37:13 | Zig | pff |
| 22:37:19 | Zig | we can beat them |
| 22:37:23 | Zig | I hope ;) |
| 22:37:32 | Widget | Yah. Let's not underestimate them. |
| 22:37:41 | Widget | It'll be a rum do after all your trash talk. |
| 22:37:45 | Zig | loops underestimated us |
| 22:37:46 | Widget | To be beaten 16-1 or something. |
| 22:37:55 | Zig | Dont worry, ill be quiet |
| 22:38:12 | Zig | Weil ich anordne |
| 22:38:43 | Widget | Zig: Wo erlernten Sie Deutsch? |
| 22:39:13 | twee_ | Widget: wow. |
| 22:39:26 | Zig | wait |
| 22:39:34 | twee_ | but i'm gone now. cu! |
| 22:39:34 | Zig | translator.dictionary.com isn't that great |
| 22:39:36 | Zig | cya |
| 22:39:40 | Widget | Bye, twee_! |
| 22:39:54 | twee_ | Zig: it's a correct sentence! |
| 22:41:31 | Zig | Das Internet |
| 22:41:44 | Widget | Die Webseite. |
| 22:42:24 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:42:25 | Zig | http://translator.dictionary.com/text.html |
| 22:42:25 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:42:55 | Widget | Kaipaatko matkaseuraa? Tarvitsetko kyytiä jonnekin? Tutustu Raketin Kimppakyyti -palveluun. |
| 22:43:09 | Zig | thats not german is it |
| 22:43:16 | Widget | No. |
| 22:43:16 | ^jh^ | finnish |
| 22:43:25 | Zig | k |
| 22:43:27 | Widget | Let's all go to ducati. |
| 22:43:30 | Zig | pff |
| 22:43:33 | Widget | Suomea. |
| 22:43:40 | Zig | I want to either watch Simpsons or do a match. |
| 22:43:42 | Zig | :) |
| 22:43:42 | Widget | See you on ducati. |
| 22:44:02 | captain_proton | phbbblffff |
| 22:55:07 | Widget | jh! |
| 22:55:11 | Widget | It's 1900 UTC MONDAY!!!! |
| 22:55:14 | Widget | Curses. |
| 22:55:15 | Widget | he left. |
| 22:55:26 | Zig | its 2400 monday |
| 22:55:29 | Zig | not 1900 |
| 22:55:33 | Widget | Oh, yah. |
| 22:55:36 | Widget | That's what I meant. |
| 22:57:04 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:57:05 | bzbot | Green: 2 players, score: -4 | |
| 22:57:10 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:57:13 | bzbot | M1 (Green):-4 (9 wins, 13 losses). Vigadu (Green):-2 (1 wins, 3 losses). |
| 22:58:15 | ^john | great |
| 23:01:09 | Widget | It's tomorrow. |
| 23:01:12 | Widget | We read it wrong. |
| 23:01:17 | ^john | ooohhh |
| 23:01:17 | Widget | It was Monday 2400 UTC. |
| 23:01:20 | Widget | Nicole3: Is your team here? |
| 23:01:23 | ^john | as i said |
| 23:02:20 | Widget | ZIg will return in half an hour. |
| 23:02:27 | ^john | so what |
| 23:03:42 | Widget | We are available for a challenge Monday 24:00utc.. We also sent out a challenge to resurection also for that time so first come first game... we can prob play a second game after the first if we have two opposing teams :) |
| 23:04:06 | paul | widget, which team are you in? |
| 23:04:15 | Widget | paul: bz |
| 23:04:25 | paul | might see you tomorrow so. |
| 23:04:31 | paul | (fingers crossed laz turns up) |
| 23:04:38 | Widget | paul: Ah, you're on Resurrection. |
| 23:05:07 | paul | yep |
| 23:05:08 | captain_proton | laz is out of practice |
| 23:05:13 | paul | is he? |
| 23:05:15 | paul | drat.. |
| 23:05:29 | paul | (cause widget whipped my backside earlier today in a friendly) |
| 23:06:40 | paul | captain_proton: but laz is still good, right? |
| 23:07:25 | paul | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 23:07:25 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 23:07:28 | paul | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 23:07:29 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 23:07:35 | paul | anyone fancy a quick game? |
| 23:09:17 | captain_proton | paul: yes, still pretty good |
| 23:10:18 | paul | captain_proton: <phew> |
| 23:10:36 | paul | who else is on the 'bz' team? |
| 23:10:43 | captain_proton | shrugs |
| 23:10:45 | captain_proton | look it up |
| 23:11:50 | Widget | jh, Ruudi, Me, Sniper 50 and Zig. |
| 23:12:05 | paul | aha.. your record? |
| 23:12:17 | Widget | 1 Draw, 1 win, 2 losses. |
| 23:12:29 | paul | hmm.. |
| 23:13:08 | Widget | Both losses to the moles, draw to the loops, win against ult. |
| 23:13:32 | paul | who did the moles to? (moles: 10 wins 1 loss) |
| 23:13:44 | paul | sorry: who did the moles /lose/ to? |
| 23:13:59 | Widget | TLZ. |
| 23:15:16 | paul | reet... well if laz turns up monday - you're dead meat. :) |
| 23:15:36 | Widget | We'll see. |
| 23:15:41 | Widget | Wait. |
| 23:15:43 | paul | :) |
| 23:15:48 | Widget | I can't come at 2400 UTC tomorrow. |
| 23:15:54 | Widget | Wait. |
| 23:15:55 | Widget | I can. |
| 23:15:57 | Widget | Never mind. |
| 23:17:08 | paul | anyone fancy a game? |
| 23:17:28 | paul | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 23:17:28 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 23:17:32 | paul | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5999 |
| 23:17:32 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 23:17:35 | paul | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 23:17:35 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 23:17:43 | Widget | OK, sure. |
| 23:17:47 | Widget | Port 5156? |
| 23:17:51 | paul | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 23:17:52 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: -4 | Green: 2 players, score: 0 | |
| 23:17:57 | paul | what game is it? |
| 23:18:00 | paul | ctf no jump? |
| 23:18:03 | Widget | Yes. |
| 23:18:09 | Widget | I donnae play anything else. |
| 23:18:09 | paul | ok.. 5156 it is. |
| 23:18:22 | paul | b there in 1 min |
| 23:20:38 | [TeA] | bye all |
| 23:20:42 | [TeA] | 2:30 am here |
| 23:20:51 | [TeA] | im not tired but never mind |
| 23:20:56 | [TeA] | bye |
| 23:25:54 | captain_proton | tickles BZFlag |
| 23:31:04 | captain_proton | ook, response regarding config, time to implement |
| 23:32:08 | BZFlag | cracks up hehehehehe |
| 23:32:27 | doughec | puts BZFlag back together |
| 23:36:49 | BZFlag | feels better |
| 23:37:03 | doughec | dont sniff the glue |
| 23:37:17 | doughec | ;) |
| 23:42:57 | captain_proton | BZFlag: no -pr in 1.8, correct? |
| 23:53:24 | Izto | Hi |
| 23:53:29 | paul | Widget: i did a wee bit better against you this time :) |
| 23:53:44 | Widget | paul: A lot better. :) |
| 23:55:00 | Widget | Hm. The Isle of Man has its own domain abbreviation. |
| 23:58:51 | Widget | paul: Why do the Irish Euros have just one picture on all their faces? (the harp) |
| 23:58:54 | Widget | paul: Have some variety. |
| 23:59:37 | paul | cause the coins have the standard symbol on one face and the countries symbol on the other. |
| 23:59:46 | Widget | I know, all of them do. |
| 23:59:51 | paul | each country has just one symbol. |
| 23:59:56 | Widget | No... |
| 23:59:58 | paul | hey i didnt design them :) |
| 23:59:58 | Widget | France has 3. |
