| 00:15:04 | Oooo0 | hola |
| 00:15:19 | jpablo | hola amigo. |
| 00:15:39 | Oooo0 | doesn't look like any one is up for a match eh? |
| 00:16:41 | arathorn | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 00:16:42 | bzbot | .o0o0o. (Red):5 (5 wins, 0 losses). 2 bad (Green):-10 (20 wins, 30 losses). .0ooo0. (Red):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). .0o0o0. (Red):17 (26 wins, 9 losses). Flynn (Green):-13 (7 wins, 20 losses). |
| 00:17:33 | jacques | what are all those 0o0o0o0o... names? |
| 00:17:53 | Oooo0 | they're my teammates, playing on ducati ctf now |
| 00:19:40 | jpablo | hehe. |
| 00:21:26 | jacques | how do you tell them apart? |
| 00:23:09 | jacques | or is that the point? |
| 00:26:39 | iLLf8d | jacques long time no see |
| 00:27:01 | iLLf8d | the loops are all those people who wanted to be on 2 teams but couldn't |
| 00:27:19 | iLLf8d | so they made 0o0o0o to skirt the issue |
| 00:27:36 | iLLf8d | or 2 have 2 chances =P |
| 00:27:38 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 00:33:40 | jacques | iLLf8d: hi! :-) |
| 00:33:45 | jacques | sorry was talking to someone here |
| 00:33:56 | iLLf8d | howya been |
| 00:59:59 | dinah | hmmmm |
| 01:00:17 | Oooo0 | interesting assumption iLLf8d, interesting, but nonetheless wrong :) |
| 01:00:48 | Oooo0 | good night all |
| 01:05:00 | jacques | iLLf8d: I've been good. how are you? |
| 01:05:16 | jacques | iLLf8d: I started playing bzflag again a couple of weeks ago when I saw that e6 had come out |
| 01:06:20 | dinah | oh no e6 is old... get 1.8 or e7 ;) |
| 01:13:26 | jacques | e7 is out? wow |
| 01:13:40 | jacques | oh heh e7 is a devel |
| 01:13:56 | jacques | i really like the e6 look |
| 01:13:59 | dinah | oh out for some time, but without the new chestal/akira patch its not worth getting |
| 01:14:23 | jacques | i went back to e4 to debug a udp problem and was shocked at how old it looked :-) |
| 01:15:01 | jacques | dinah: what's the Chestal/Akira patch? |
| 01:15:21 | dinah | it adds menue options for all the display fetures |
| 01:20:23 | jacques | oh yeah - I gotta have opacity control over the radar |
| 01:20:35 | dinah | it gives you that |
| 01:20:39 | jacques | i cant hang with the transparent radar :-) |
| 01:20:48 | jacques | cool |
| 01:21:20 | dinah | optional colour/uncolour shots as well |
| 01:27:19 | jacques | i like the new colored SW |
| 01:27:31 | dinah | ummmm SW? |
| 01:28:03 | jacques | shockwave |
| 01:28:16 | jacques | isnt that the flag name? |
| 01:28:46 | dinah | ohhhh yes i see |
| 01:30:49 | jacques | :-) |
| 01:31:22 | dinah | i think it was coloured in e5 as well... but i dont remember |
| 01:31:51 | jacques | probably, I never used e5 |
| 01:32:03 | jpablo | e5 was the cvs version. |
| 01:32:12 | jpablo | it wasn't coloured in e4. |
| 01:32:20 | dinah | so e7 is cvs as well |
| 01:32:25 | jpablo | yeah. |
| 01:32:43 | jpablo | e8 will be the next release, if it is ever made. |
| 01:33:04 | dinah | 1.8 was supossed to be the "next release" |
| 01:33:32 | jacques | heh |
| 02:32:43 | ski | always quiet in here |
| 02:36:54 | Nicole3 | hi hi everyone |
| 02:37:27 | Nicole3 | (@) |
| 02:37:55 | jpablo | hey Nicole |
| 02:38:13 | Nicole3 | hey |
| 02:38:16 | Nicole3 | sup? |
| 02:46:56 | jpablo | nothing. |
| 02:47:29 | Nicole3 | same |
| 03:04:55 | captain_proton | yaay its me |
| 03:05:04 | Nicole3 | hello |
| 03:05:26 | captain_proton | hmm, no tim or MAC |
| 03:14:44 | captain_proton | 2 |
| 03:14:46 | captain_proton | eek |
| 04:35:08 | Widget | What's the command to get 1.7 again? |
| 04:59:25 | jpablo | ? |
| 04:59:41 | jpablo | cvs -z3 co -r bzflag_1_7 bzflag |
| 04:59:45 | jpablo | or something like that. |
| 04:59:55 | jpablo | i don't remember the tag. |
| 05:00:15 | jpablo | cvs -z3 co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 05:00:17 | jpablo | that's it. |
| 05:00:28 | jpablo | cvs -z3 co -r v1_7 -d bzflag_1_7 bzflag |
| 05:00:41 | jpablo | if you want it to end in the bzflag_1_7 dir. |
| 05:13:31 | jpablo | is away: I'm busy |
| 05:13:40 | Widget | OK, thanks. |
| 05:13:48 | jpablo | is back (gone 00:00:07) |
| 05:16:11 | Widget | Wo ist Chestal? |
| 05:17:02 | Widget | jpablo: What processes in startup can I not safely background? |
| 05:24:23 | jpablo | humm. |
| 05:24:37 | jpablo | dunno. |
| 05:33:49 | captain_proton | 'lo all |
| 05:35:32 | jpablo | hey cap. |
| 05:38:56 | Widget | Hey.... |
| 05:38:58 | Widget | WHat are you doing here? |
| 05:39:08 | Widget | captain_proton: Shoo! Shoo! |
| 05:39:26 | Widget | captain_proton: Dammit, I lost your iso. Is it still somewhere on babylonia.flatirons? |
| 05:40:10 | captain_proton | Widget: perhaps |
| 05:40:20 | Widget | captain_proton: What was the filename you saved it under? |
| 05:40:22 | captain_proton | Widget: sitting on my dad's laptop listening to people talk about ipv6 |
| 05:40:34 | Widget | Sitting on it? That can't be good for it. |
| 05:41:01 | Widget | What was the filename of the ISO? |
| 05:41:22 | Widget | hihihi, akira_. |
| 05:41:28 | akira_ | moin |
| 05:41:31 | Widget | Guten morgen. |
| 05:42:09 | jpablo | hey akira |
| 05:42:19 | Widget | Wo ist Chestal? |
| 05:42:45 | captain_proton | Widget: dunno |
| 05:42:49 | captain_proton | Widget: probably quack.iso |
| 05:42:51 | Widget | captain_proton: Curses. |
| 05:43:02 | akira_ | Chestal schlaeft |
| 05:43:04 | captain_proton | if i had some motivation, i could look |
| 05:43:11 | Widget | :) |
| 05:43:14 | Widget | The file or directory http://babylonia.flatirons.org/quack.iso does not exist. |
| 05:43:15 | akira_ | its 7:48 here .. in the morning :) |
| 05:43:17 | Widget | :( |
| 05:43:24 | akira_ | hello captain_proton |
| 05:43:28 | captain_proton | Widget: wasn't it in ftp::filetran? |
| 05:43:28 | Widget | akira_: Yah, I sign on here at 6 AM! |
| 05:43:33 | captain_proton | akira_: 'lo |
| 05:43:42 | Widget | The file or directory http://babylonia.flatirons.org/ftp/filetran/quack.iso does not exist. |
| 05:43:49 | Widget | Oh, wait. |
| 05:44:14 | Widget | I logged in as ftp. |
| 05:44:18 | Widget | I see it not there, though. |
| 05:44:20 | akira_ | someone knows the name of the all in one apachebuild source? |
| 05:44:29 | captain_proton | Widget: user filetran? |
| 05:44:34 | Widget | captain_proton: User ftp. |
| 05:44:44 | captain_proton | Widget: log in as filetran:filetran |
| 05:45:02 | Widget | Ah, it's here! |
| 05:45:04 | Widget | Thanks! |
| 05:46:09 | Patlabor221 | heya cap |
| 05:46:36 | akira_ | moin Patlabor221 |
| 05:46:50 | captain_proton | heya Patlabor221 |
| 05:47:05 | Patlabor221 | I finaly got that linux install going again |
| 05:47:11 | Widget | Ooooooooh. |
| 05:47:22 | Widget | is too scared to try to install LFS without a boot CD. |
| 05:47:46 | Patlabor221 | and I installed the kernel source RPM this time but those nvidia drivers still won't build |
| 05:47:57 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: bizzare |
| 05:48:06 | akira_ | error messages? |
| 05:48:14 | Patlabor221 | can't find headers |
| 05:48:35 | Patlabor221 | fixmap.h and others |
| 05:48:46 | akira_ | kernel is placed in /usr/src/linux ? |
| 05:49:00 | Patlabor221 | I just ran the RPM I don't know where it put it |
| 05:49:09 | akira_ | go for /usr/src |
| 05:49:11 | akira_ | and wathc |
| 05:49:21 | Patlabor221 | no linuz folder int there |
| 05:49:34 | akira_ | but? |
| 05:49:45 | Patlabor221 | just a redhat folder |
| 05:49:54 | akira_ | called? |
| 05:49:58 | Patlabor221 | redhat |
| 05:50:02 | akira_ | go in there |
| 05:50:04 | Patlabor221 | /usr/src/redhat |
| 05:50:23 | akira_ | these damn idiot should install the kernel somewhere shouldnt they? |
| 05:50:27 | akira_ | :) |
| 05:50:30 | Patlabor221 | it's got build, RPMS sources specs adn srpms |
| 05:51:13 | akira_ | you got a fast connection? try downloading the source from kernel.org and deinstall this rpm |
| 05:51:28 | Patlabor221 | how do I deinstall and rpm? |
| 05:51:44 | akira_ | use the redhat packagesystem i guess |
| 05:52:10 | akira_ | try a "locate linux.h" first |
| 05:54:18 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you installed kernel-source-version-release.i386.rpm? |
| 05:54:40 | Patlabor221 | I installed what was on the source CD2 that was with the 7.3 CDs I got |
| 05:54:43 | akira_ | never understands red hat |
| 05:54:46 | Patlabor221 | same CDs I installed |
| 05:55:14 | akira_ | what did "locate linux.h" says? |
| 05:55:20 | Patlabor221 | well the RPM manager killed the thing |
| 05:55:26 | Patlabor221 | ohh there it goes |
| 05:55:36 | Patlabor221 | that thing sucks some CPU |
| 05:55:55 | Patlabor221 | tyring locate now |
| 05:56:39 | akira_ | so you deleted the package now? |
| 05:56:45 | Patlabor221 | not yet |
| 05:56:48 | akira_ | ok |
| 05:56:50 | Patlabor221 | doing the locate first |
| 05:56:53 | akira_ | ok |
| 05:57:02 | Patlabor221 | I was just trying to open the RPM manager |
| 05:57:13 | akira_ | /usr/src/linux-2.4.18/drivers/acpi/include/platform/aclinux.h |
| 05:57:16 | akira_ | /usr/src/linux-2.4.18/drivers/char/rio/rio_linux.h |
| 05:57:16 | akira_ | /usr/src/linux-2.4.18/include/linux/coda_linux.h |
| 05:57:20 | Patlabor221 | there s one of em |
| 05:57:29 | akira_ | thats the output from my locate ... |
| 05:57:31 | Patlabor221 | in /usr/share/splint/lib |
| 05:57:37 | akira_ | where is the one? |
| 05:57:55 | akira_ | ah, fuck that package up .. just delete it ... |
| 05:58:04 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 05:58:21 | Patlabor221 | it's still trying to read all the packages |
| 05:58:26 | akira_ | download a kernel from kernel.org, unpack it and then come again :) |
| 05:58:28 | Patlabor221 | not exactly peppy |
| 05:58:37 | Patlabor221 | what kernel? |
| 05:58:49 | Patlabor221 | 2.4.18? |
| 05:58:51 | captain_proton | akira_: that won't work for building nvidia drivers |
| 05:59:09 | captain_proton | akira_: it needs the source to your running kernel |
| 05:59:14 | akira_ | i never understand this packagemanagers.. a configure; make; make install always be enough |
| 05:59:18 | Patlabor221 | just wants the tanks to go fast |
| 05:59:42 | Patlabor221 | what's wrong with installers that just work? |
| 05:59:53 | akira_ | captain_proton: i said "download a kernel from kernel.org unpack it and come again" .. coz then we need at least to configure the kernel right to use the nvidialibs |
| 06:00:41 | akira_ | captain_proton: i KNOW what the nvidialibs need ... and first of all a propper kernel and the standard place for the kernel _is_ in fact the /usr/src/linux ... |
| 06:02:18 | Widget | http://www.germanotaku.net/ |
| 06:02:42 | Widget | Star Wars -- Eine neue Hoffnung |
| 06:02:45 | captain_proton | akira_: however, properly installing the kernel-source package will be much less painful for a newbie than building a new kernel |
| 06:02:59 | Widget | Ich wünsche mir, dass eine Göttin wie du den Rest meines Lebens bei mir bleibt. |
| 06:03:13 | akira_ | captain_proton: but you see that THIS package from Patlabor221 didnt work |
| 06:03:28 | Patlabor221 | well it dosn't look like it installed |
| 06:03:34 | Patlabor221 | I don't see it in the package list |
| 06:03:42 | akira_ | Patlabor221: then try to install it again |
| 06:04:03 | Patlabor221 | what I got was kernel-4.2.18-3.src.rpm |
| 06:04:12 | Patlabor221 | that's what was on the source CD |
| 06:04:36 | akira_ | i cant help you installing this with a packetmanager ... |
| 06:04:59 | akira_ | try rpm --install or something like this, if you want to do this by yourself |
| 06:05:16 | Patlabor221 | well I did rpm -iuv <package> |
| 06:05:21 | Patlabor221 | didn't use the package man to install |
| 06:07:03 | akira_ | then try to use the packetmanager if it is still open |
| 06:08:08 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: wrong rpm |
| 06:08:34 | Patlabor221 | that was the only one that said source and kernel that I could find |
| 06:08:46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: on the i386 rpms cd (one of them), install kernel-source-4.2.18-3.xxx.rpm (xxx could be i386, maybe not) |
| 06:08:59 | Patlabor221 | ok I'll look for it |
| 06:09:35 | akira_ | ok, good luck |
| 06:09:55 | akira_ | cu all |
| 06:11:25 | Patlabor221 | gotta be on disk 1 then |
| 06:19:01 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: ! |
| 06:21:27 | Patlabor221 | there is that bastartd file |
| 06:21:29 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 06:21:34 | Patlabor221 | it's not on the source CD!!!!! |
| 06:21:43 | Patlabor221 | it's in the midle of the regular ones |
| 06:22:35 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thats because its not technically a source rpm |
| 06:22:45 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: fixed ogg yet? ;) |
| 06:24:40 | captain_proton | anyhoo, i'll probably have burrow implemented soon, but i can't test anything here, so you get to test |
| 06:27:25 | MrApathyCream | they are |
| 06:27:28 | Patlabor221 | if they are there then it won't work |
| 06:27:36 | Patlabor221 | it will only work if it dosn't have them |
| 06:27:42 | Patlabor221 | way bugged |
| 06:27:42 | MrApathyCream | ah. |
| 06:27:54 | MrApathyCream | Why's that? |
| 06:27:58 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 06:28:06 | Patlabor221 | somethings wrong wiht the sound stuff |
| 06:28:12 | Patlabor221 | haven't have a change to debug |
| 06:28:23 | Patlabor221 | but I'm not the only one who gets it |
| 06:28:36 | MrApathyCream | sounds don't even load... :) |
| 06:28:59 | Patlabor221 | I"m just saying what happens when I try to run current CVS |
| 06:29:08 | captain_proton | for vorbis, you gotta use CVS - they fixed a lot of bugs since 1.0rc3 |
| 06:29:35 | MrApathyCream | ah... |
| 06:29:42 | captain_proton | and yes, sound is pretty broken right now |
| 06:29:42 | Patlabor221 | I got it today at noon |
| 06:29:45 | MrApathyCream | i yanked 1.0rc3 |
| 06:30:03 | captain_proton | well, sounds still don't load |
| 06:30:11 | captain_proton | but if they did, they fail badly with 1.0rc3 |
| 06:30:20 | MrApathyCream | have the cvs line per chance? |
| 06:31:09 | captain_proton | nope - i can look |
| 06:32:00 | captain_proton | http://xiph.org/cvs.html |
| 06:32:56 | captain_proton | they have a nightly tarball available for download (simpler) |
| 06:35:27 | captain_proton | supposedly they're going to release either 1.0 or rc4 imminently, so... |
| 06:39:23 | MrApathyCream | i removed ogg files and problem is still there |
| 06:39:41 | captain_proton | problem? |
| 06:40:00 | MrApathyCream | earth to captain_proton, earth to captain_proton: come in please |
| 06:40:47 | MrApathyCream | the entire hud is black, except radar, and maxmove boxes |
| 06:41:42 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: when what how? |
| 06:42:00 | captain_proton | (i can't run anything) |
| 06:42:07 | | captain_proton is nothing but an impure ass-full of measled seagull puke. |
| 06:42:07 | MrApathyCream | ibot, insult captain_proton |
| 06:42:43 | MrApathyCream | something in the last set of checkins, causes the entire hud to be black when you start up. Firing a shot causes you to crash |
| 06:44:05 | captain_proton | entire hud is black would be a bad scene node |
| 06:44:17 | captain_proton | (oh fark, i might have checked in thief) |
| 06:44:30 | captain_proton | lemme take a quickie look |
| 06:45:25 | captain_proton | yep, have the boog fixed in a moment |
| 06:45:42 | captain_proton | gotta rewrite the shot-T.bzg file and check it in |
| 06:45:49 | captain_proton | care to make a thief.png ad add? |
| 06:47:25 | Patlabor221 | well damn The nvidia kernel is built and installed |
| 06:47:44 | Patlabor221 | what now cap? |
| 06:49:22 | jacques | nvidia kernel? |
| 06:49:45 | Patlabor221 | drivers |
| 06:51:57 | MrApathyCream | cappy: what's the option to check in a binary file? |
| 06:53:07 | captain_proton | cvs add -kb file |
| 06:53:45 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: it should say 'Driver "nv"' somewhere in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 06:53:53 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: change it to 'Driver "nvidia"' |
| 06:53:55 | Patlabor221 | I made the changes to my X11 config file like the nvidia docs said |
| 06:54:03 | Patlabor221 | did that |
| 06:54:04 | captain_proton | ok, then just start X |
| 06:54:18 | Patlabor221 | it's runing now, so how do I stop it |
| 06:54:36 | Patlabor221 | I think I know how |
| 06:57:11 | MrApathyCream | cappy: png added |
| 06:58:34 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: coo', i'll have shot-T.bzg in there just a sec |
| 06:58:44 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ctrl+alt+backspace kills X |
| 06:59:27 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 06:59:32 | Patlabor221 | but now it's buggerd |
| 06:59:44 | MrApathyCream | cappy: latest ogg src has same effect |
| 06:59:45 | Patlabor221 | just keeps flashing text mode when it's trying to load it |
| 07:01:22 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: modprobe NVdriver |
| 07:01:41 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: same effect?? (huh?) |
| 07:02:22 | Patlabor221 | said that loading it would taint the kernel |
| 07:02:33 | Patlabor221 | but then it looks like it loaded |
| 07:03:00 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: lsmod |grep NVdriver |
| 07:03:10 | Patlabor221 | I just started x |
| 07:03:15 | Patlabor221 | and it's making pictures |
| 07:03:24 | Patlabor221 | of some kind :) |
| 07:03:27 | captain_proton | pictures good or bad? |
| 07:03:32 | Patlabor221 | got a big nvidia logo |
| 07:03:33 | captain_proton | (pretty colors?) |
| 07:03:47 | Patlabor221 | puuuurrrrdy colors :) |
| 07:03:48 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: excellect |
| 07:04:03 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: the log can be turned off if you like |
| 07:05:05 | Patlabor221 | do I have to so anything so that it will start the driver every time now? |
| 07:07:28 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you should have a '/etc/rc.d/rc.local' |
| 07:07:32 | captain_proton | right? |
| 07:07:39 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: does 1.8 work now? |
| 07:07:44 | captain_proton | i use the term loosely |
| 07:08:32 | MrApathyCream | WOOOOT! |
| 07:08:38 | MrApathyCream | fix0red |
| 07:08:49 | Patlabor221 | yeah I have that |
| 07:09:00 | captain_proton | wow MrApathyCream ...you sound like vogon |
| 07:09:10 | MrApathyCream | i'm giggy with it. |
| 07:09:11 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 07:09:18 | MrApathyCream | bah, ok, well it's better |
| 07:09:26 | MrApathyCream | shooting shuts down the clien |
| 07:09:27 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: whence i return, i shall check in my new thief.rgb - will make you drool |
| 07:09:38 | MrApathyCream | kul |
| 07:09:42 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: debug time? |
| 07:09:47 | MrApathyCream | spose |
| 07:11:11 | captain_proton | just wanna check - you get lots of OggAudioFile errors on startup? |
| 07:13:30 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, maybe it's working (cept sound) |
| 07:13:49 | MrApathyCream | one sec, lemme see what the ogg errors are |
| 07:16:07 | captain_proton | hey, question in burrow: |
| 07:16:22 | captain_proton | what is the whole 'const_cast<float*>(p)[2] = 0.0f' about? |
| 07:19:08 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, with new libs just built from cvs get error at |
| 07:19:10 | MrApathyCream | if(ov_open_callbacks(in, &file, NULL, 0, cb) < 0) { |
| 07:19:10 | MrApathyCream | std::cout << "OggAudioFile() failed: call to ov_open_callbacks failed\n"; |
| 07:19:18 | MrApathyCream | i don't think that occurred before with rc3 |
| 07:19:30 | MrApathyCream | error ff7f |
| 07:20:08 | MrApathyCream | ((const float *)(p))[2] = 0.0f; |
| 07:20:18 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: rc3 failed baaad on small files (like we have) |
| 07:20:42 | captain_proton | error ff7f..hmm |
| 07:20:51 | MrApathyCream | rc3 returned no error here |
| 07:21:02 | MrApathyCream | lemme put it back to that |
| 07:21:28 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: can you find where that is getting set? it 'fails' when i return 0 in the read callback, indicating EOF. however, its thinking there's an error because the "by-thread errno(??)" is getting set |
| 07:22:08 | captain_proton | so whats this 'float height = p[2];' and the const_cast and all do? i can't see what its supposed to mean? |
| 07:24:28 | MrApathyCream | checking height...... code |
| 07:26:10 | MrApathyCream | ah this code is to make sure when burrowing you can't go under buildings that are on the ground |
| 07:26:25 | MrApathyCream | so it temporarily sets the z pos to 0 if your burrowed to check obstacle collision |
| 07:26:27 | MrApathyCream | then sets it back |
| 07:27:27 | MrApathyCream | back to checking ogg |
| 07:28:54 | captain_proton | aha, ok |
| 07:32:09 | Patlabor221 | well pigs must be flying cus the tanks are fast now |
| 07:34:22 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ? |
| 07:34:33 | Patlabor221 | it works :) |
| 07:34:41 | Patlabor221 | now I just need to get sound to work |
| 07:35:06 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: don't expect 1.8 sound to work ^_^ |
| 07:35:17 | Patlabor221 | no I mean in general |
| 07:35:26 | Patlabor221 | right now I got no sound in the OS at all |
| 07:35:34 | Patlabor221 | I may not even have sound in windows |
| 07:35:38 | Patlabor221 | I have to check |
| 07:35:45 | Patlabor221 | the sound card may be bad |
| 07:36:09 | Patlabor221 | and all I did was build 1.7e6 |
| 07:36:50 | Patlabor221 | is there gonna be another 1.7? cus if there is, that texture streching problem on the boxes needs to be fixed |
| 07:37:25 | captain_proton | i think there has to be, with the superjump boog and all |
| 07:37:31 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 07:38:05 | Patlabor221 | what about all the radar stuff, are any of the patches that are out there gonna be CVSed? |
| 07:38:30 | Patlabor221 | like the user setable transperancy |
| 07:40:05 | captain_proton | probably - i imagine chestal will garrot tim if they don't make it in |
| 07:40:05 | MrApathyCream | ok cappy here's the gig |
| 07:40:19 | captain_proton | is all ears |
| 07:40:36 | MrApathyCream | reading fire.ogg, which is 13,247 bytes |
| 07:40:46 | MrApathyCream | first it reads 8500 bytes from offset 0 |
| 07:40:47 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:41:10 | MrApathyCream | then a read of 8500 bytes from offset 4747 |
| 07:41:11 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:41:36 | MrApathyCream | then a read of 8500 bytes from offset 11098 |
| 07:41:37 | MrApathyCream | bad |
| 07:41:51 | MrApathyCream | eof fails and you return 0 from OAFRead |
| 07:42:24 | captain_proton | ok, so the eof behavior needs to be modified? |
| 07:42:44 | captain_proton | check if the tell offset is = 0, if so, return eof, if not, return the partial read? |
| 07:43:17 | MrApathyCream | not sure what your trying to do here? |
| 07:43:30 | captain_proton | ok, the normal ogg stuff uses FILE* |
| 07:43:39 | captain_proton | but MediaFile uses C++ streams |
| 07:43:44 | MrApathyCream | yupyup |
| 07:44:08 | captain_proton | so it needs to have functions that act like f* |
| 07:44:23 | MrApathyCream | why are you trying to read off the end of the file? |
| 07:44:33 | captain_proton | i'm not - partial reads are ok |
| 07:44:45 | MrApathyCream | then why are you testing for eof? |
| 07:44:59 | captain_proton | because it needs to - lemme try something else |
| 07:45:03 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:46:39 | captain_proton | cvs up and test |
| 07:46:43 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:47:00 | captain_proton | (i soo wish i had my own lappie here to test stuff) |
| 07:47:16 | captain_proton | but alas, i have no money to buy such a thing |
| 07:49:21 | MrApathyCream | nogo |
| 07:49:26 | MrApathyCream | in OAFRead |
| 07:49:27 | MrApathyCream | size_t bytesRead = pos2 - pos1; |
| 07:49:51 | MrApathyCream | when you read off the end, bytesRead is a hugh number because pos2 is offset -1 pos 0 |
| 07:50:21 | captain_proton | wait - when at eof, what is pos2? |
| 07:50:43 | MrApathyCream | pos2 is { offset = SEEK_END, pos = 0} |
| 07:51:05 | MrApathyCream | not sure how pos math works |
| 07:51:25 | MrApathyCream | lemme step thru that code |
| 07:51:27 | MrApathyCream | holdon |
| 07:52:37 | MrApathyCream | operator streamoff() const |
| 07:52:37 | MrApathyCream | {return (_Off + _FPOSOFF(_Fpos)); } |
| 07:52:37 | MrApathyCream | streamoff operator-(const _Myt& _R) const |
| 07:52:37 | MrApathyCream | {return ((streamoff)*this - (streamoff)_R); } |
| 07:52:52 | captain_proton | i need to find the class definition for streampos |
| 07:53:47 | captain_proton | hmm yukyuk |
| 07:54:00 | captain_proton | typedef _IO_off64_t streampos |
| 07:54:26 | captain_proton | tell is supposed to return the total file size at eof |
| 07:55:12 | MrApathyCream | pos_type tellg() |
| 07:55:13 | MrApathyCream | {if (!fail()) |
| 07:55:13 | MrApathyCream | return (rdbuf()->pubseekoff(0, cur, in)); |
| 07:55:13 | MrApathyCream | else |
| 07:55:13 | MrApathyCream | return (streampos(_BADOFF)); } |
| 07:55:21 | MrApathyCream | in this case it's returning the else part |
| 07:55:40 | captain_proton | vc++ broken? |
| 07:56:00 | MrApathyCream | does in->read return bytes read? |
| 07:56:11 | captain_proton | no, it doesn't (grr) |
| 07:56:23 | captain_proton | http://www.cplusplus.com/ref/iostream/istream/tellg.html |
| 07:57:16 | MrApathyCream | why not just do |
| 07:57:16 | MrApathyCream | is.seekg (0, ios::end); |
| 07:57:16 | MrApathyCream | length = is.tellg(); |
| 07:57:19 | captain_proton | ok, lets try casting to 'streamoff' when assigning pos1 and pos2 |
| 07:57:21 | MrApathyCream | at beginning |
| 07:57:35 | captain_proton | uhm - that returns the entire file length |
| 07:57:43 | captain_proton | we need to return bytes read from OAFRead |
| 07:57:44 | MrApathyCream | right, then you can keep track yourself of reads |
| 07:58:07 | MrApathyCream | (lengths) |
| 07:58:13 | MrApathyCream | lame, but... |
| 07:59:23 | captain_proton | new OggAudioFile.cxx |
| 07:59:39 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 08:00:18 | captain_proton | hmm - looks like it might be gcc 2.95 thats broken |
| 08:00:27 | captain_proton | perhaps just differing systems |
| 08:00:34 | captain_proton | s/systems/implementations |
| 08:00:58 | MrApathyCream | std::streamoff :) |
| 08:02:16 | captain_proton | yesyes |
| 08:02:30 | MrApathyCream | no help. |
| 08:02:34 | captain_proton | no? |
| 08:02:46 | MrApathyCream | prob is that in->tellg() after eof read returns bad |
| 08:03:01 | MrApathyCream | pos_type tellg() |
| 08:03:01 | MrApathyCream | {if (!fail()) |
| 08:03:01 | MrApathyCream | return (rdbuf()->pubseekoff(0, cur, in)); |
| 08:03:01 | MrApathyCream | else |
| 08:03:01 | MrApathyCream | return (streampos(_BADOFF)); } |
| 08:03:07 | MrApathyCream | fail bit is on |
| 08:03:16 | MrApathyCream | so it returns streampos(_BADOFF) |
| 08:03:24 | captain_proton | uggg |
| 08:03:37 | captain_proton | thats not what is supposed to happen! |
| 08:03:42 | MrApathyCream | heh. |
| 08:03:52 | MrApathyCream | need to keep track of length yourself |
| 08:04:23 | MrApathyCream | if read goes past, call seekg end, 0 |
| 08:04:32 | MrApathyCream | lame |
| 08:04:52 | captain_proton | ok, so in the constructor grab the length, if it wants to read too far, only read n bytes, then if at end, return 0 |
| 08:05:12 | MrApathyCream | right |
| 08:05:39 | captain_proton | argg, can't do that |
| 08:06:00 | captain_proton | since we only get 'datasource' in OAFRead |
| 08:06:04 | captain_proton | static int? |
| 08:06:50 | MrApathyCream | could derive a class from std::ifstream |
| 08:06:53 | MrApathyCream | uugly |
| 08:07:15 | MrApathyCream | or, define struct like |
| 08:07:19 | MrApathyCream | struct { |
| 08:07:20 | captain_proton | nono, we are NOT deriving from ifstream |
| 08:07:24 | MrApathyCream | void *datasource; |
| 08:07:28 | MrApathyCream | int length; |
| 08:07:29 | MrApathyCream | { |
| 08:07:35 | MrApathyCream | then pass address of struct |
| 08:07:41 | MrApathyCream | and find the length in OAFRead |
| 08:07:52 | captain_proton | i like that better |
| 08:07:54 | MrApathyCream | er, |
| 08:07:57 | MrApathyCream | struct |
| 08:07:57 | MrApathyCream | { |
| 08:08:05 | captain_proton | allocate in the constructor, dallocate in ov_clear (follows spec) |
| 08:08:11 | MrApathyCream | yeh |
| 08:08:16 | MrApathyCream | like that :) |
| 08:08:55 | MrApathyCream | but heah, at least it draws now |
| 08:09:03 | MrApathyCream | stumbles off to bed |
| 08:09:14 | captain_proton | only 2 am there? |
| 08:09:22 | MrApathyCream | 4:13 |
| 08:09:34 | captain_proton | ooh wait, got confused |
| 08:09:58 | captain_proton | ok, guess i'll have to find another tester for me |
| 08:10:02 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 08:10:03 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 08:10:06 | MrApathyCream | cu |
| 08:30:50 | captain_proton | anybody awake? |
| 08:36:10 | jpablo | i |
| 08:36:18 | jpablo | but i'm just on my way to bed. |
| 08:37:04 | captain_proton | hmm fine |
| 08:37:09 | captain_proton | will find someone else |
| 09:09:00 | | iLLf8d was last seen on #bzflag 8 hours, 35 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: howya been [Tue Jul 9 01:33:56 2002] |
| 09:09:00 | teA_ | ibot seen iLLf8d |
| 11:36:50 | metal_magic | does anyone wanna go play CTF on ducati now? |
| 11:39:55 | metal_magic | hmm, probably no one :-) |
| 11:41:47 | teA_ | HeLLO |
| 12:39:17 | dinah | compiles v1.8 :) |
| 12:43:45 | dinah | what is bzgview? |
| 12:51:14 | dinah | well it has a g in it must be a gnome thing right? |
| 12:58:07 | dinah | oh no! theres no option to turn of depth buffer!!!??? :( |
| 12:58:48 | dinah | is anyone here? anyone at all? im actually having bzflag related problems!! |
| 13:03:15 | Chestal | looks like doug messed around a little too much this time |
| 13:03:45 | dinah | points to her earlier questions |
| 13:03:54 | dinah | :( |
| 13:04:02 | Chestal | bzgview is jsut a viewer for the model files |
| 13:04:14 | Chestal | didn't see any other question |
| 13:04:19 | dinah | oh well what about the no depth buffer off option |
| 13:04:37 | Chestal | I have no idea, is it important for you? |
| 13:04:43 | dinah | if i have depth buffer on i can't see buildings |
| 13:04:58 | dinah | i get a big square of blindness in front of me |
| 13:05:29 | Chestal | uh? strange |
| 13:05:32 | dinah | and i can only see things in my periferal vision |
| 13:06:31 | dinah | :( |
| 13:25:34 | dinah | so who would i talk to about getting depth buffering removed from 1.8? |
| 13:29:28 | Chestal | hmm, crs23, captain proton, BZFlag, MrApathyCream? |
| 13:30:18 | dinah | MrApathyCream seems to be the only one around... so how about it luv? |
| 13:35:16 | FrootLoop | good morning |
| 13:35:40 | dinah | bollocks |
| 13:35:46 | DOUGY | bah |
| 13:35:51 | DOUGY | ?? |
| 13:35:56 | DOUGY | chestal? |
| 13:36:09 | | chestal was last seen on #bzflag 6 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: hmm, crs23, captain proton, BZFlag, MrApathyCream? [Tue Jul 9 14:29:28 2002] |
| 13:36:09 | FrootLoop | ibot: seen chestal |
| 13:36:54 | Chestal | hmm |
| 13:37:12 | FrootLoop | hi chestal |
| 13:37:43 | Chestal | hi |
| 13:37:58 | Chestal | hmm, I would liek to play the Avengers, but not that late |
| 13:38:11 | FrootLoop | Us first!! |
| 13:43:36 | FrootLoop | different? |
| 13:46:25 | MrApathyCream | you've obviously confused me with someone with any say :) |
| 13:47:11 | DougHecka | ? |
| 13:47:24 | Chestal | MAC: is't readsome() a standard function doign the same as read but returnign the number of characters read? |
| 13:47:25 | FrootLoop | Chestal: and now? |
| 13:47:34 | Chestal | ame as before, mjbradley |
| 13:47:38 | FrootLoop | grrr |
| 13:47:58 | DougHecka | Chestal: that bot code you gave does not work |
| 13:48:10 | DougHecka | got lots of errors |
| 13:48:10 | Chestal | DougHecka: it did |
| 13:48:19 | DougHecka | it did? |
| 13:48:20 | DougHecka | lol |
| 13:48:23 | Chestal | DougHecka: was written for 1.7e4 or something |
| 13:48:28 | DougHecka | oh |
| 13:48:33 | DougHecka | let me get that |
| 13:48:40 | DougHecka | FrootLoop: what are you doing? |
| 13:48:43 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: dunno checking |
| 13:49:03 | FrootLoop | doughecka: just trying to fix some settings on Mirc, sorry! |
| 13:49:16 | MrApathyCream | hmm looks good |
| 13:49:58 | DougHecka | ah |
| 13:51:10 | DougHecka | sourceforge down? |
| 13:51:12 | FrootLoop | hi again |
| 13:51:16 | DougHecka | ah |
| 13:51:19 | DougHecka | no |
| 13:51:39 | DougHecka | ah breakfast |
| 13:58:10 | dinah | so anyone know about that depth buffer thingy or not eh? |
| 13:59:26 | FrootLoop | sorry dinah, not I |
| 14:10:25 | dinah | looks for info about depth buffers in the doc's |
| 14:25:17 | Chestal | thunderstorm closing in |
| 14:25:37 | dinah | really? got a bit of one here aswell |
| 14:42:00 | DougHecka | bah |
| 14:42:15 | DougHecka | the bot code sill gets errors even with e4 |
| 14:42:38 | DougHecka | bzflag.exe - 15 error(s), 5 warning(s) |
| 14:42:51 | dinah | has discovered other people with depth buffer probs in the forum |
| 14:42:55 | DougHecka | here is one: c:\moved\bzflagg\bzflag-1.7e4\bzflag\src\bzflag\localplayer.h(146) : error C2065: 'FLT_MAX' : undeclared identifier |
| 14:42:59 | DougHecka | ?? |
| 14:45:12 | DougHecka | Chestal: do I need to copy the bzflag.cxx? |
| 14:50:13 | DougHecka | bah |
| 14:50:16 | DougHecka | I still get error |
| 14:50:17 | DougHecka | s |
| 14:54:41 | DougHecka | bzflag.exe - 15 error(s), 5 warning(s) |
| 14:56:16 | teA__ | lalalalalalalalala |
| 14:57:32 | dinah | DougHecka: just boot linux already |
| 14:57:39 | DougHecka | heh |
| 14:59:01 | [TeA] | hello you 2 |
| 14:59:07 | [TeA] | =) |
| 15:01:10 | DougHecka | depth buffer problem? |
| 15:01:31 | DougHecka | bah |
| 15:01:32 | dinah | does not speak to Doug |
| 15:01:39 | DougHecka | I give up on compiling it |
| 15:03:49 | DougHecka | wow |
| 15:04:01 | DougHecka | I have a folder that is 4.76 gigs |
| 15:04:11 | DougHecka | with 29,486 files |
| 15:04:15 | DougHecka | hehe |
| 15:18:18 | DougHecka | lo Patlabor221 |
| 15:18:33 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 15:18:45 | DougHecka | I have a folder that is 4.76 gigs with 29,486 files |
| 15:19:04 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 15:19:12 | Patlabor221 | I have more then that on my desktop |
| 15:19:24 | DougHecka | lol |
| 15:24:46 | Patlabor221 | so doug you cleaning up that drive? thowing away all the porn? |
| 15:24:52 | DougHecka | heh |
| 15:25:00 | DougHecka | sheesh |
| 15:25:16 | DougHecka | all I have is about 3 diferent linux ISOs on here |
| 15:25:22 | DougHecka | each on is baout 3 cds full |
| 15:25:43 | Patlabor221 | you might want to put those on CDs then |
| 15:25:48 | DougHecka | lol |
| 15:25:52 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 15:26:12 | DougHecka | and all the zip files I have ever downloaded |
| 15:27:38 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 15:27:50 | DougHecka | trying to see what grafic card I have |
| 15:28:05 | DougHecka | its a intel 810 |
| 15:28:28 | DougHecka | but there is a 810e, 810em 810ep etc |
| 15:28:30 | DougHecka | :) |
| 15:29:37 | Patlabor221 | ummm that's not a real card |
| 15:29:43 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:29:44 | DougHecka | :( |
| 15:29:49 | DougHecka | onboard stuff |
| 15:29:50 | Patlabor221 | that's your southbridge pretending to be a card |
| 15:29:55 | DougHecka | lol |
| 15:29:57 | DougHecka | true |
| 15:29:59 | Patlabor221 | those things suck |
| 15:30:02 | Patlabor221 | hardcore |
| 15:30:03 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:30:15 | DougHecka | I need to get a RADEON™ 7000 Video Card, PCI, 32MB DDR |
| 15:30:17 | Patlabor221 | get a real computer |
| 15:30:21 | Patlabor221 | PCI? |
| 15:30:25 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:30:25 | DougHecka | :( |
| 15:30:29 | DougHecka | no AGP slot |
| 15:30:36 | Patlabor221 | good luck then |
| 15:30:45 | DougHecka | but I have a system here with a very good motherboard |
| 15:30:51 | DougHecka | and a real AGP slot |
| 15:31:46 | Patlabor221 | then why not use that? |
| 15:31:54 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 15:32:00 | DougHecka | no harddrive nor cdrom |
| 15:32:09 | DougHecka | but its got lots af ram |
| 15:32:15 | DougHecka | 786 megs |
| 15:32:16 | DougHecka | :) |
| 15:32:21 | Patlabor221 | that's all? |
| 15:32:26 | DougHecka | but only a 333 Mhz chip |
| 15:32:28 | DougHecka | hehe |
| 15:32:43 | DougHecka | its a rack mount server |
| 15:32:58 | DougHecka | but, hey, it works as a game computer ok.... |
| 15:33:12 | Patlabor221 | rack mount with agp, that's odd |
| 15:34:28 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:34:42 | DougHecka | its a gigabyte motherboard |
| 15:34:48 | DougHecka | I think thats a good one |
| 15:35:03 | DougHecka | supports upto 650 Mhz Pentium III |
| 15:35:18 | DougHecka | my current is a 600 Mhz celeron |
| 15:35:28 | Patlabor221 | it's just a PC100 mb |
| 15:35:39 | Patlabor221 | ewww 66 mhz buss |
| 15:35:51 | DougHecka | ugh |
| 15:35:52 | Patlabor221 | pithch it all and get an Athalon XP |
| 15:35:52 | DougHecka | :) |
| 15:35:59 | DougHecka | lol |
| 15:36:02 | DougHecka | wish I could |
| 15:36:03 | Patlabor221 | they are realy cheap |
| 15:36:03 | DougHecka | :) |
| 15:36:06 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:36:08 | Patlabor221 | maybe you can save your allowance |
| 15:36:12 | DougHecka | heh |
| 15:37:13 | DougHecka | I get payment in ram |
| 15:37:30 | Patlabor221 | man I won't even use 333's for servers |
| 15:37:34 | DougHecka | I do little things (like linux stuff) and I get ram back |
| 15:37:49 | Patlabor221 | but PC100 ram is pointless |
| 15:37:58 | DougHecka | Patlabor221: yea, thats why I am going to upgrade the prossesor |
| 15:38:01 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:38:11 | DougHecka | now I am pushing for a grafics card |
| 15:38:12 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 15:38:13 | Patlabor221 | to what, your max is a 650 |
| 15:38:18 | DougHecka | 650 |
| 15:38:22 | DougHecka | or 600 |
| 15:38:32 | DougHecka | 600 is about 40 bucks on ebay |
| 15:38:42 | DougHecka | or $60 |
| 15:38:46 | DougHecka | I forget |
| 15:39:22 | DougHecka | this a good card: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=290263 ?? |
| 15:39:22 | Patlabor221 | man you can get an XP1500+ for $65 |
| 15:39:28 | DougHecka | I can? |
| 15:39:30 | DougHecka | hmmmm |
| 15:39:32 | Patlabor221 | and a durron for a lot cheaper |
| 15:39:42 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 15:39:42 | Patlabor221 | I won't even look at that page |
| 15:39:47 | Patlabor221 | it starts with compusa |
| 15:39:51 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:39:57 | DougHecka | compusa is the only thing around |
| 15:40:03 | Patlabor221 | order online |
| 15:40:04 | DougHecka | other than bestbuy |
| 15:40:08 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 15:40:25 | DougHecka | I'd better get a job.... |
| 15:40:46 | Patlabor221 | that card is $40 online |
| 15:40:52 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 15:41:00 | DougHecka | is that a good card? |
| 15:41:09 | Patlabor221 | it is a good little radion |
| 15:41:15 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:41:17 | DougHecka | cheap |
| 15:41:20 | Patlabor221 | http://www.pricewatch.com |
| 15:41:24 | DougHecka | cheap is good |
| 15:41:32 | DougHecka | oh cool |
| 15:42:00 | DougHecka | is voodoo card good? |
| 15:42:30 | Patlabor221 | OMG |
| 15:42:37 | Patlabor221 | leave this place at once |
| 15:42:37 | DougHecka | ? |
| 15:42:41 | Patlabor221 | go. |
| 15:42:47 | DougHecka | um |
| 15:42:50 | DougHecka | why? |
| 15:43:16 | DougHecka | what place? |
| 15:43:27 | DougHecka | pricewatch? |
| 15:45:00 | Patlabor221 | go........ |
| 15:45:07 | Patlabor221 | you mentioned the evil |
| 15:45:11 | DougHecka | lol |
| 15:45:15 | Patlabor221 | what does it look like |
| 15:45:15 | DougHecka | the v word? |
| 15:45:25 | DougHecka | ok |
| 15:45:25 | Patlabor221 | goooooooo....!!!!!!! now. |
| 15:45:32 | Patlabor221 | you are tained |
| 15:45:37 | Patlabor221 | you must be clensed |
| 15:45:40 | DougHecka | lol |
| 15:45:46 | Patlabor221 | purged of the evil |
| 15:45:51 | DougHecka | ok |
| 15:45:56 | DougHecka | reconnecting... |
| 15:46:14 | DougHecka | ok |
| 15:46:34 | DougHecka | its fixed |
| 15:46:36 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 15:47:23 | DougHecka | bah |
| 15:47:27 | DougHecka | its all AGP |
| 15:47:28 | Patlabor221 | somehow I doubt it |
| 15:47:33 | DougHecka | heh |
| 15:47:46 | DougHecka | I know the V card is bad |
| 15:47:53 | DougHecka | buts its cheap.... |
| 15:47:59 | DougHecka | lke $14 |
| 15:48:03 | Patlabor221 | ether get the radion or a GF |
| 15:48:13 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:48:22 | DougHecka | GF is the one I am looking at |
| 15:48:24 | Patlabor221 | I'm not talking about a GeForce |
| 15:48:28 | DougHecka | ? |
| 15:48:33 | DougHecka | ooohhhh |
| 15:52:03 | DougHecka | Visiontek Geforce2 MX200 32MB |
| 15:52:03 | DougHecka | is that a good one? |
| 15:52:18 | Patlabor221 | it's just a 2 |
| 15:52:23 | DougHecka | oh |
| 15:52:26 | DougHecka | just a 2? |
| 15:52:32 | Patlabor221 | but I'll bet it's cheap |
| 15:52:32 | DougHecka | is that better than a intel? |
| 15:52:36 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 15:52:37 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:52:41 | DougHecka | its 22 |
| 15:52:43 | DougHecka | er |
| 15:52:46 | DougHecka | $22 |
| 15:52:49 | Patlabor221 | everything is better then a MB shipset pretending to be a video card |
| 15:52:57 | DougHecka | lol |
| 15:53:03 | Patlabor221 | you know it's slowing everything down when you use it for video right |
| 15:53:04 | DougHecka | good point |
| 15:53:07 | DougHecka | yea |
| 15:53:41 | DougHecka | I can barely get 10 FPS at max settings in bzflag, WITH no shadows or lighting |
| 15:53:48 | DougHecka | hehe |
| 15:54:25 | DougHecka | so get a Geforce4? |
| 16:03:50 | DougHecka | back |
| 16:05:36 | Patlabor221 | if you can affort it |
| 16:05:51 | Patlabor221 | I get 85 fps, at 1600x1200 with evertying on |
| 16:06:01 | Patlabor221 | BZ does not stress a modern system |
| 16:06:32 | [TeA] | YEEEEEES |
| 16:07:14 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 16:07:37 | DougHecka | heh |
| 16:08:38 | bryjen | Patlabor221: Windoze? |
| 16:08:47 | DougHecka | heh |
| 16:10:24 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:10:29 | Patlabor221 | on my work PC |
| 16:10:51 | Patlabor221 | XP on a 2.0 ghz wiht a P4, wiht a GF4 |
| 16:11:02 | DougHecka | VISIONTEK GEFORCE4 MX 420 64MB PCI XTASY = $82.95 |
| 16:11:14 | Patlabor221 | MX = M-ASS |
| 16:11:21 | DougHecka | ah |
| 16:11:25 | DougHecka | so no MX? |
| 16:11:27 | Patlabor221 | MX is not a real GF4 |
| 16:11:29 | DougHecka | oh |
| 16:11:32 | DougHecka | rats |
| 16:11:41 | Patlabor221 | your lookin at least 200 |
| 16:11:44 | Patlabor221 | for a 4 |
| 16:11:46 | DougHecka | oh |
| 16:11:51 | bryjen | ahhhh ecks-pee |
| 16:12:05 | Patlabor221 | it runs just fine |
| 16:12:14 | DougHecka | heh |
| 16:12:20 | Patlabor221 | once you turn all the extra crap off and make it look like 2k |
| 16:12:29 | DougHecka | lol |
| 16:12:32 | DougHecka | yea |
| 16:12:56 | DougHecka | XP is great, but it too new person helpfull |
| 16:13:02 | DougHecka | if you get my meaning |
| 16:13:04 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 16:13:18 | Patlabor221 | no I don't |
| 16:13:25 | DougHecka | um |
| 16:13:34 | DougHecka | heh, never mind |
| 16:13:47 | DougHecka | ok... |
| 16:13:52 | DougHecka | found the video card |
| 16:13:54 | DougHecka | nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600, 128MB 2.8ns DDR,Dual DVI Display! TV-OUT, W/ PCI firewire card. ti4600 |
| 16:13:57 | DougHecka | price? |
| 16:14:04 | DougHecka | $334.00 |
| 16:14:08 | DougHecka | lol |
| 16:14:09 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:14:14 | Patlabor221 | good card |
| 16:14:19 | DougHecka | what is wrong with MX? |
| 16:14:28 | Patlabor221 | it's just a fast GF2 MX |
| 16:14:31 | Patlabor221 | no shaders |
| 16:14:33 | bryjen | does it make your toast at breakfast time too? |
| 16:14:36 | DougHecka | lol |
| 16:14:38 | DougHecka | I hope so... |
| 16:14:51 | DougHecka | no shaders? |
| 16:14:51 | Patlabor221 | less blend modes |
| 16:14:54 | DougHecka | oh |
| 16:14:55 | Patlabor221 | less texture units |
| 16:14:59 | DougHecka | I need that? |
| 16:14:59 | bryjen | ... hmmm, take the heat-sink off... and maybe.... |
| 16:15:00 | Patlabor221 | less speed, less features |
| 16:15:06 | DougHecka | so??? |
| 16:15:09 | Patlabor221 | you plan on playing Doom3? |
| 16:15:13 | DougHecka | no |
| 16:15:17 | DougHecka | never will |
| 16:15:18 | Patlabor221 | then maybe not |
| 16:15:23 | DougHecka | costs money |
| 16:15:24 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 16:15:28 | Patlabor221 | more games in the future will be using them |
| 16:15:34 | DougHecka | but I play operation flashpoint.... |
| 16:15:54 | DougHecka | thats a grafics card hungry game |
| 16:15:56 | Patlabor221 | and the pokimon game |
| 16:15:59 | Patlabor221 | no it's not |
| 16:16:05 | Patlabor221 | it's just baldy writen |
| 16:16:08 | DougHecka | yea |
| 16:16:17 | DougHecka | but its more than bzflag |
| 16:16:49 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 16:17:02 | DougHecka | so dont get a MX, get a geforce2? |
| 16:17:18 | Patlabor221 | a 4 mx will be slightly faster then a 2 |
| 16:17:24 | DougHecka | ah |
| 16:17:25 | DougHecka | ok |
| 16:17:32 | DougHecka | and they are sorta te same price |
| 16:17:33 | Patlabor221 | the starit 2 dosn't have the pixel shaders ether |
| 16:17:37 | bryjen | spending more money now generally makes your hardware "good" for longer, but if you don't HAVE the money NOW..... |
| 16:17:39 | DougHecka | oh |
| 16:17:39 | DougHecka | ok |
| 16:17:52 | DougHecka | bryjen: hmm good point |
| 16:17:53 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 16:18:04 | Patlabor221 | actual;y none of these cards will realy matter on that little computer |
| 16:18:10 | DougHecka | yea |
| 16:18:22 | DougHecka | but if I can get dual monitors.... |
| 16:18:32 | DougHecka | :) |
| 16:18:34 | Patlabor221 | you don't have the speed to send them enought data to max any of them out |
| 16:18:39 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 16:18:43 | Patlabor221 | the MXs do dual monitors ver y well |
| 16:18:47 | Patlabor221 | as do the ATIs |
| 16:18:59 | DougHecka | does it have dual monitors built in? |
| 16:19:01 | Patlabor221 | I have used both |
| 16:19:06 | DougHecka | ? |
| 16:19:13 | Patlabor221 | the ATI's have 2 connectors |
| 16:19:18 | bryjen | what CPU? Or is missing the AGP slot the problem? |
| 16:19:24 | DougHecka | AGP slot |
| 16:19:25 | Patlabor221 | the MX's you have to get one that has a VGA and DVI connector |
| 16:19:28 | DougHecka | oh |
| 16:19:29 | Patlabor221 | then get an adaptor |
| 16:19:35 | DougHecka | oh goody |
| 16:19:36 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 16:19:37 | Patlabor221 | they are all gonna be AGP |
| 16:19:41 | DougHecka | yea |
| 16:19:44 | Patlabor221 | welcome to this century |
| 16:19:47 | DougHecka | heh |
| 16:20:20 | DougHecka | I should sell both and get a amdXP |
| 16:20:21 | DougHecka | ? |
| 16:20:24 | DougHecka | er |
| 16:20:30 | DougHecka | or a duron? |
| 16:21:17 | DougHecka | not a pentium IIII? |
| 16:22:19 | DougHecka | gives up and orders and PowerMacintosh G4 dual prossesor with 1.5 gigs of ram |
| 16:22:24 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 16:22:26 | bryjen | AMD usually beats the pants of Intel for price/performance |
| 16:22:30 | DougHecka | yea |
| 16:23:09 | DougHecka | Complete sys - AMD Athlon XP 2100 1.733GHz Win98se OR WIN ME 1Year Warr.... is that a good computer? |
| 16:23:21 | DougHecka | its only $415 |
| 16:24:08 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 16:26:06 | DougHecka | ack |
| 16:26:12 | DougHecka | how do I pick a motherboard? |
| 16:26:21 | DougHecka | they have about 30 of them |
| 16:26:32 | DougHecka | ok, only 10 |
| 16:28:17 | Patlabor221 | if you go XP make sure to get one with a VIA kT266a chipset |
| 16:28:33 | Patlabor221 | and do you think you can get $4oo for those 2 crap computers? |
| 16:28:45 | DougHecka | ah |
| 16:28:56 | DougHecka | um |
| 16:28:58 | DougHecka | why not? |
| 16:29:01 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 16:29:41 | Patlabor221 | you think that if you can get a new computer for 400 someone will pay that mutch for a 333? |
| 16:29:55 | DougHecka | heh |
| 16:29:57 | Patlabor221 | well you are in hick town |
| 16:30:05 | DougHecka | perfect... |
| 16:30:07 | DougHecka | :) |
| 16:30:08 | Patlabor221 | so maybe they will think it's a tractor or something |
| 16:30:14 | DougHecka | hey, hey |
| 16:30:18 | DougHecka | its not THAT hick |
| 16:30:30 | DougHecka | they know a 486 when they see one |
| 16:30:34 | DougHecka | :D |
| 16:30:43 | Patlabor221 | I've been there, it's that hick |
| 16:30:51 | DougHecka | heh |
| 16:31:04 | DougHecka | I sold a 486 to guy in a yard sale |
| 16:31:18 | DougHecka | he said he was using it to surf the net |
| 16:31:22 | DougHecka | ack |
| 16:31:26 | Patlabor221 | for $1? |
| 16:31:39 | DougHecka | 20 buck |
| 16:31:41 | DougHecka | s |
| 16:32:01 | DougHecka | VIA VT8361? is that good? |
| 16:32:27 | DougHecka | oops |
| 16:32:30 | DougHecka | never mind |
| 16:32:35 | DougHecka | dont have a AGP slot |
| 16:32:56 | Patlabor221 | KT266a |
| 16:33:03 | DougHecka | ok |
| 16:33:19 | Patlabor221 | ECS k7s5a is a good board for durrons too |
| 16:33:25 | DougHecka | ok |
| 16:33:49 | DougHecka | ECS K7S5A SOCKET-A 266FSB WITH DDR & SDRAM SUPPORT? |
| 16:34:10 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 16:34:14 | DougHecka | cool |
| 16:34:19 | Patlabor221 | if you get a durron it will use your old ram |
| 16:34:30 | DougHecka | thats only $75 |
| 16:34:32 | DougHecka | ok |
| 16:34:33 | DougHecka | good |
| 16:34:40 | DougHecka | I have a extra ram chip here too |
| 16:34:53 | Patlabor221 | that MB sould be 50 |
| 16:35:10 | DougHecka | oh |
| 16:35:17 | DougHecka | they only sell an XP too |
| 16:35:19 | DougHecka | :( |
| 16:35:20 | DougHecka | rats |
| 16:35:23 | DougHecka | I have to go.... |
| 16:35:31 | Patlabor221 | awww |
| 16:35:41 | DougHecka | bookmarking it all.... |
| 16:35:57 | Patlabor221 | have fun milking the cows |
| 16:36:08 | DougHecka | heh |
| 17:25:11 | teA_ | HELP !!!! |
| 17:25:46 | strayer | ...U...why? |
| 17:25:57 | dinah | lol |
| 17:26:08 | Patlabor221 | is something on fire or somehing? |
| 17:26:14 | DougHecka | heh |
| 17:26:17 | Patlabor221 | cus I only help when there's fire involved |
| 17:26:20 | Patlabor221 | or muffins |
| 17:26:27 | DougHecka | lol |
| 17:26:31 | DougHecka | or food |
| 17:26:40 | Patlabor221 | muffins are food baka |
| 17:26:42 | strayer | hm....muffins |
| 17:28:14 | Patlabor221 | so does the help entail muffins teA? |
| 17:28:27 | DougHecka | guess not |
| 17:33:57 | Patlabor221 | anyone know where I can get some info ( like a simple sample ) on how to bring up an OpenGL window in X? |
| 17:34:46 | Patlabor221 | without using GLUT |
| 17:34:54 | DougHecka | dunno |
| 17:35:13 | Patlabor221 | the BZ code is nasty when it comes to that part |
| 17:35:26 | DougHecka | heh |
| 17:36:04 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure Akira will know |
| 17:36:12 | DougHecka | yea |
| 17:38:49 | DougHecka | oops |
| 17:41:13 | CGI698 | ? |
| 17:41:22 | Patlabor221 | ! |
| 17:41:32 | Patlabor221 | Damn right |
| 17:41:36 | DougHecka | what? |
| 17:41:51 | Patlabor221 | you've never seen shaft have you? |
| 17:42:06 | DougHecka | um |
| 17:42:08 | DougHecka | I guess not |
| 17:42:14 | DougHecka | a movie? |
| 17:42:17 | Patlabor221 | before your time |
| 17:42:26 | DougHecka | ah |
| 17:42:54 | Patlabor221 | you were born after 1980 wern't you? |
| 17:43:01 | DougHecka | yup |
| 17:43:07 | Patlabor221 | god |
| 17:43:10 | DougHecka | ever seen 2001? |
| 17:43:33 | DougHecka | lo BZFlag |
| 17:43:38 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:43:43 | DougHecka | heh |
| 17:44:05 | Patlabor221 | damn that makes me feel old |
| 17:44:17 | DougHecka | lol |
| 17:44:26 | DougHecka | I think its cool |
| 17:44:35 | DougHecka | how about 2010? |
| 17:44:37 | Patlabor221 | what the fact that your 15? |
| 17:44:48 | Patlabor221 | yes I saw that too |
| 17:44:50 | Patlabor221 | when it came out |
| 17:44:53 | Patlabor221 | in the theaters |
| 17:44:54 | DougHecka | wow |
| 17:45:08 | DougHecka | how did you find my age? |
| 17:45:09 | Patlabor221 | saw star wars in the theater when it came out too |
| 17:45:21 | Patlabor221 | it's not that hard to guess |
| 17:45:26 | DougHecka | wow, that was along time ago |
| 17:45:34 | DougHecka | heh |
| 17:45:36 | Patlabor221 | not realy |
| 17:45:37 | DougHecka | kidding |
| 17:45:38 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 17:45:42 | DougHecka | dinah told you? |
| 17:45:49 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 17:45:55 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 17:46:13 | Patlabor221 | like I said it's not that hard to guess |
| 17:46:18 | DougHecka | he |
| 17:46:19 | DougHecka | hehe |
| 17:47:02 | Patlabor221 | hey BZflag, do you know where I could find some simple examples of how to bring up an OpenGL window in X without using GLUT? |
| 17:49:54 | teA_ | i do |
| 17:50:15 | Patlabor221 | where would I find something like that |
| 17:54:14 | CGI784 | what is bzflag? sounds really neat |
| 17:54:26 | DougHecka | um |
| 17:54:35 | DougHecka | look at www.bzflag.org |
| 17:54:50 | CGI784 | is it free? |
| 17:54:53 | DougHecka | yup |
| 17:55:00 | CGI784 | ok |
| 17:55:02 | CGI784 | thanks |
| 17:55:25 | Patlabor221 | mmmmm what's with all the CGI clones? |
| 17:55:48 | DougHecka | clones? |
| 17:56:26 | Patlabor221 | notice that 2 of the people who have just poped in here are all CGI names |
| 17:56:34 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 17:56:39 | Patlabor221 | and running on a java web client |
| 17:57:06 | DougHecka | maybe its a client like this: http://chat.ircnet.org/ |
| 17:57:13 | DougHecka | strayer uses it |
| 17:57:14 | Patlabor221 | it is |
| 17:57:30 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 18:27:24 | dinah | is still looking for a way to disable the depth buffer in v1.8 |
| 18:31:33 | dinah | is away: back soon |
| 18:41:02 | DougHecka | ? |
| 18:41:05 | DougHecka | game today? |
| 18:41:14 | Oooo0 | what team? |
| 18:41:27 | DougHecka | the OoOoO |
| 18:44:58 | Oooo0 | who are you? |
| 18:45:04 | DougHecka | me? |
| 18:45:06 | Oooo0 | your team, i know my team |
| 18:45:11 | DougHecka | oh |
| 18:45:16 | DougHecka | *a* |
| 18:45:24 | Oooo0 | annhilation? |
| 18:45:26 | DougHecka | I am breadhat |
| 18:45:27 | DougHecka | yup |
| 18:45:30 | Oooo0 | ahh |
| 18:45:33 | FrootLoop | aaaah, think we played you right? hi breadhat |
| 18:45:39 | Oooo0 | you want a match today? |
| 18:45:39 | DougHecka | yea |
| 18:45:42 | DougHecka | no no!!! |
| 18:45:48 | FrootLoop | geez |
| 18:45:56 | DougHecka | just wondering if you guys where having a game |
| 18:45:58 | Oooo0 | changed your mind awfully quick |
| 18:46:02 | Oooo0 | oh, not yet |
| 18:46:05 | Oooo0 | trying |
| 18:46:06 | DougHecka | heh |
| 18:46:40 | jzaun | menuptr.bzg (30,1): unexpected data outside field <-- Whats that mean? (CVS) |
| 18:46:42 | Oooo0 | you were redhat before breadhat, right? |
| 18:46:53 | DougHecka | yup |
| 18:47:00 | Oooo0 | adios |
| 18:47:10 | DougHecka | um, cya |
| 18:58:16 | dinah | is back (gone 00:26:43) |
| 19:01:13 | teA_ | <- |
| 19:01:20 | teA_ | -> |
| 19:32:18 | BeZee | hi all |
| 19:33:01 | dinah | hello there |
| 19:44:21 | DougHecka | fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty Bag filled with vegetable soup. |
| 19:47:46 | akira_ | hello |
| 19:48:08 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 19:48:11 | akira_ | BZFlag: how could i tell the tanknode his "name" ? |
| 19:48:35 | akira_ | Patlabor221: everything went fine with captain proton and your kernel? |
| 19:48:41 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's workin |
| 19:48:49 | akira_ | fine |
| 19:48:55 | akira_ | wrong package he? |
| 19:49:01 | Patlabor221 | might you know where I would find an example on how to bring up a GL window in X |
| 19:49:03 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:49:08 | Patlabor221 | it wasn't on the source CD |
| 19:49:14 | Patlabor221 | it was on disk 2 |
| 19:49:37 | akira_ | glwindow in x? |
| 19:49:40 | akira_ | use glut |
| 19:49:52 | akira_ | or just start bzflag :) |
| 19:49:53 | Patlabor221 | I don't want to use glut |
| 19:50:06 | Patlabor221 | I want to know how to do it in code |
| 19:50:07 | akira_ | why you dont want to use glut? |
| 19:50:16 | Patlabor221 | I know how in win, wanted to see linux |
| 19:50:19 | tankmann | hey akira |
| 19:50:23 | akira_ | hallo tankmann |
| 19:50:27 | tankmann | akira: weißt du, ob chest da is? |
| 19:50:38 | akira_ | Patlabor221: you want to setup native gl in native x? |
| 19:50:40 | tankmann | akira: zees wollen uns testen... |
| 19:50:43 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:50:48 | akira_ | tankmann: er ist away in meinem icq |
| 19:50:58 | akira_ | tankmann: und ich bin zu hause und kann eh nicht mitmachen |
| 19:51:00 | tankmann | akira: in meinem auch :) |
| 19:51:07 | tankmann | akira: mist |
| 19:51:08 | akira_ | tankmann: die zees wollen nen offizielles match? |
| 19:51:10 | Patlabor221 | akira: the BZ code was realy hard to folow at that level |
| 19:51:23 | tankmann | akira: nein, die pflunzen trauen sich nur inoffiziell :) |
| 19:51:49 | akira_ | haha |
| 19:51:59 | FantaZee | los ihr schwaetzer |
| 19:52:03 | akira_ | dann mal ne ansage an die zees: hey, wimps, traut euch mal offiziell |
| 19:52:06 | tankmann | da isser ja |
| 19:52:08 | tankmann | der erste zee |
| 19:52:10 | BeZee | schickschnack .. eine niederlage der moles reicht fuers erste |
| 19:52:30 | akira_ | BeZee: dann brauchts ja keine angst zu haben |
| 19:52:50 | FantaZee | ich bin noch kalt heute |
| 19:53:01 | akira_ | Patlabor221: i would check out the glut source ... |
| 19:53:11 | FantaZee | los jetzt |
| 19:53:17 | tankmann | fanta: wo? |
| 19:53:19 | FantaZee | wir warten auf 59000 |
| 19:53:22 | tankmann | ok |
| 19:53:23 | akira_ | Patlabor221: another nice source check would be fox-toolkit, fltk and so on |
| 19:53:29 | akira_ | FantaZee: da koennt ihr lange warten :) |
| 19:53:30 | BeZee | akira: keine angst .. das ist mitleid :-)) |
| 19:53:33 | akira_ | tankmann: ist lupi da? |
| 19:53:41 | akira_ | BeZee: das haben wir ja letztens gesehen :) |
| 19:53:55 | BeZee | bin ja schon ruhig |
| 19:54:05 | FantaZee | und ? kommt ihr ? |
| 19:54:20 | akira_ | FantaZee: ich bin zu hause ueber modem |
| 19:54:34 | Patlabor221 | I was just hoping for a sample, i don't need a toolkit |
| 19:54:35 | FantaZee | egal |
| 19:54:47 | akira_ | wenn also lupi tank comanche (ich glaub der ist im urlaub) oder chestal nich da sind .. |
| 19:54:54 | akira_ | FantaZee: ich hab 1sec lag |
| 19:55:07 | FantaZee | tank war doch da |
| 19:55:12 | FantaZee | und lupi auch |
| 19:55:25 | akira_ | Patlabor221: that was just to show you some toolkits. you could examine THEIR way to set up opengl ... |
| 19:56:40 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 19:57:09 | akira_ | i never use native stuff .. only toolkits :) |
| 19:57:16 | akira_ | but i read a bit in foxlibs |
| 19:57:25 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't look like it's that easy to set up a window |
| 19:58:10 | akira_ | but its almost the same way it is under win32 ... |
| 19:58:20 | akira_ | create a context and bind it to the window :))) |
| 19:58:37 | Patlabor221 | well the concept is the same between the two |
| 19:58:46 | Patlabor221 | the implementaion on linux seems larger |
| 19:59:14 | akira_ | Patlabor221: not linux -> x |
| 19:59:19 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:59:32 | Patlabor221 | no windows in straight lin |
| 20:00:51 | akira_ | love love bananajuice :) |
| 20:15:07 | akira_ | cu all guys |
| 20:15:12 | akira_ | moles for ever :) |
| 20:36:10 | BeZee | moles forever :-) 3:4! |
| 20:50:36 | tad | ? |
| 21:12:19 | arathorn | heya all |
| 21:12:29 | Widget | hihihi, arathorn. |
| 21:12:54 | arathorn | :))) widget |
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| 21:14:35 | arathorn | ibot:seen T-34 |
| 21:14:53 | DougHecka | lo Patlabor221 |
| 21:15:19 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 21:15:23 | DougHecka | :) |
| 21:15:58 | arathorn | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:15:59 | bzbot | Fanta (Green):9 (18 wins, 9 losses). y o y o x (Green):68 (151 wins, 83 losses). Jonny (Red):2 (159 wins, 157 losses). aadrar (Red):-55 (76 wins, 131 losses). Nicson (Green):9 (85 wins, 76 losses). snail (Green):4 (15 wins, 11 losses). nobody (Red):-9 (7 wins, 16 losses). #5 (Red):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). |
| 21:16:26 | FantaZee | hi ara |
| 21:16:36 | arathorn | heya fanta:)))) |
| 21:17:14 | FantaZee | come to duc |
| 21:17:23 | arathorn | yep i will:)) |
| 21:17:37 | arathorn | cya later all |
| 21:17:47 | arathorn | go to ducati:) |
| 21:20:05 | Widget | Wow... ce clavier neuf est parfait! |
| 21:20:49 | DougHecka | ?? |
| 21:21:24 | dinah | DougHecka: i will say this once, sod off |
| 21:21:31 | DougHecka | ? |
| 21:21:37 | DougHecka | what? |
| 21:21:41 | dinah | DougHecka = trula |
| 21:21:50 | DougHecka | ?? |
| 21:22:07 | DougHecka | I do not know anyone named trula |
| 21:22:26 | DougHecka | much less impersonate it... |
| 21:22:51 | Widget | I don't think trula is DougHecka. |
| 21:23:03 | DougHecka | why would she think that? |
| 21:23:14 | Widget | Well.... |
| 21:23:21 | Widget | Most of the weird people who come here are really you. |
| 21:23:33 | DougHecka | hmm |
| 21:23:34 | Patlabor221 | and you are often anying as hell |
| 21:23:45 | DougHecka | often? |
| 21:23:50 | DougHecka | not very often |
| 21:23:54 | DougHecka | only on mondays |
| 21:23:56 | Patlabor221 | when you get your bots |
| 21:23:56 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 21:24:00 | DougHecka | ah |
| 21:24:00 | Patlabor221 | like now |
| 21:24:02 | DougHecka | the bots.... |
| 21:24:12 | DougHecka | like a one hour hobby |
| 21:24:43 | DougHecka | it is boring... |
| 21:24:49 | DougHecka | er, was |
| 21:25:47 | Widget | I loooove my new Spanish keyboard. |
| 21:25:52 | Widget | I hope I can play BZFlag in it, though. |
| 21:26:11 | DougHecka | now, for an example of wierd people, take Widget |
| 21:26:14 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 21:26:36 | Patlabor221 | the best way for you to defend your self is it grow up and behave |
| 21:26:44 | DougHecka | heh |
| 21:26:51 | DougHecka | well..., I am.. |
| 21:27:14 | DougHecka | finger is tingling |
| 21:29:06 | Widget | Yah! |
| 21:29:15 | Widget | He's growing at the rate of one year per year! |
| 21:29:20 | DougHecka | yea |
| 21:29:22 | Widget | Though sometimes I'm led to wonder... |
| 21:29:27 | DougHecka | heh |
| 21:29:45 | Widget | God I love my keyboard. |
| 21:29:48 | Widget | It smells so nice. |
| 21:29:50 | DougHecka | heh |
| 21:29:59 | Widget | *sniiiiiiiiiiiiiifff* |
| 21:30:07 | DougHecka | I like my qwerty keyboard |
| 21:30:17 | Widget | Et maintenant, je peux taper des àccênts. |
| 21:30:24 | Widget | This is a QWERTY keyboard. |
| 21:30:29 | DougHecka | oh? |
| 21:30:32 | Widget | Spanish keyboard are mostly QWERTY. |
| 21:30:33 | DougHecka | oh |
| 21:30:36 | DougHecka | I know |
| 21:30:48 | Widget | is away: For a moment. |
| 21:30:49 | DougHecka | I can type in german accents |
| 21:30:56 | Widget | ÿ? |
| 21:31:09 | DougHecka | for like, german.... |
| 21:32:43 | DougHecka | ;) |
| 21:35:22 | dougheck | bah |
| 21:35:27 | dougheck | who registered my name? |
| 22:11:38 | FantaZee | zees still complete |
| 22:11:45 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:11:52 | FantaZee | heh ? |
| 22:11:57 | doughecka | hehe |
| 22:12:15 | FantaZee | where's your tem ? |
| 22:12:20 | FantaZee | team |
| 22:12:21 | doughecka | um |
| 22:12:23 | doughecka | dunno |
| 22:12:30 | doughecka | I stay here 24 hours a day |
| 22:12:34 | FantaZee | you should |
| 22:12:40 | FantaZee | 24 ? |
| 22:12:46 | doughecka | um |
| 22:12:47 | FantaZee | why ? |
| 22:12:54 | doughecka | I stay connected 24 hours a day |
| 22:13:02 | FantaZee | nice |
| 22:14:11 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:14:18 | doughecka | I am a op |
| 22:14:20 | doughecka | ;) |
| 22:26:39 | BeZee | hi froot, zees waiting on ducati |
| 22:28:31 | FantaZee | loop |
| 22:29:21 | FantaZee | ooooo |
| 22:29:49 | FantaZee | frootloop |
| 22:32:02 | FantaZee | no frootloop here |
| 22:32:10 | doughecka | heh |
| 22:32:18 | FantaZee | german ? |
| 22:32:34 | doughecka | me? |
| 22:32:39 | FantaZee | yes |
| 22:32:41 | FantaZee | you |
| 22:32:45 | doughecka | nien |
| 22:32:59 | FantaZee | tell me |
| 22:33:07 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:33:11 | doughecka | nope |
| 22:33:15 | doughecka | I am in the US |
| 22:33:18 | doughecka | not in germany |
| 22:33:29 | doughecka | nor do I speak german |
| 22:34:27 | FantaZee | aha |
| 22:34:42 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:35:05 | FantaZee | if any loop like ooooo or ooooo ;) will be here next time send him to 59000 |
| 22:35:17 | doughecka | ok... |
| 22:35:20 | FantaZee | thx |
| 22:35:43 | doughecka | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 22:35:44 | bzbot | supercharged tank (Red):12 (30 wins, 18 losses). Widget (Red):5 (27 wins, 22 losses). T-34 (Green):-6 (64 wins, 70 losses). @Gen. Rommel (Blue):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). [TLZ] Ajax (Green):-2 (2 wins, 4 losses). [TLZ] BeZee (Green):-7 (7 wins, 14 losses). @@@@ (Blue):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). [TLZ] w339 (Red):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). |
| 23:13:38 | doughecka | hello PercyM |
| 23:13:51 | PercyM | whats all this then? |
| 23:14:01 | Quol | chestal - you listening?? |
| 23:14:14 | doughecka | PercyM: ?? |
| 23:14:31 | PercyM | bugger all, and you might be? |
| 23:14:40 | doughecka | um |
| 23:14:46 | doughecka | doug hecka |
| 23:14:57 | doughecka | I was just saying hi |
| 23:15:26 | PercyM | well doug hecka your perhaps the giver of the least helpfull answeres on earth. you know that dont you? ;) |
| 23:15:35 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:17:02 | PercyM | anymore im here cause dear sweet dinah hates you. know that? |
| 23:17:13 | doughecka | sighs |
| 23:17:15 | doughecka | yes |
| 23:17:35 | PercyM | well now what'ca do then eh? |
| 23:17:53 | doughecka | I dont know really... |
| 23:18:13 | doughecka | she left in a fluff, saying she dont want to be in here when I am in here |
| 23:18:32 | PercyM | di in a fluff i cant imagine |
| 23:18:40 | doughecka | er whatever |
| 23:18:53 | akira_ | cya all |
| 23:19:53 | PercyM | so you know mate im debating wether or not to teach her how to "remove" you, so to speak |
| 23:20:00 | PercyM | i wanted to hear your side |
| 23:20:04 | doughecka | oh |
| 23:20:39 | doughecka | all I did was start a bot to let someone see it... |
| 23:20:45 | doughecka | and then I quit it |
| 23:20:54 | PercyM | hmmm were boggin up the forum lets clear out ;) |
| 23:28:20 | Widget | Interesting game. |
| 23:28:32 | FantaZee | you think so ? |
| 23:28:38 | Widget | Yes. |
| 23:28:51 | Widget | FantaZee: You acted like you panicked after the loops scored a few times. |
| 23:29:14 | Widget | Salve, w339. |
| 23:29:21 | FantaZee | no, i didn't but i can't understand why every shot hits |
| 23:29:23 | doughecka | heh |
| 23:29:42 | w339 | hi all |
| 23:29:47 | Widget | FantaZee: Based on the time I have played the loops, I think the best strategy is _not_ to try to dodge the shots. |
| 23:29:50 | jzaun | Hello |
| 23:29:54 | FantaZee | saw never someone with this score on ducati |
| 23:29:55 | Widget | FantaZee: But to continue as you would have. |
| 23:30:33 | FantaZee | nthey're stronger tan the moles |
| 23:30:34 | w339 | the battlefield also sucked - IMO |
| 23:30:42 | doughecka | heh |
| 23:30:44 | Widget | FantaZee: No, they're not. I've played both teams. |
| 23:30:55 | FantaZee | i don't know, but ther must be something other |
| 23:31:10 | FantaZee | we played moles this evening |
| 23:31:11 | Widget | yoyox: Hello. |
| 23:31:15 | FantaZee | nhi |
| 23:31:21 | Widget | FantaZee: Score? |
| 23:31:27 | w339 | they're stronger then we thought, but not like the moles. |
| 23:31:35 | FantaZee | i mean kill ratio |
| 23:31:58 | Widget | The moles adapted to the Loops' strategy very quickly. |
| 23:32:05 | w339 | I think they had a better teamplay |
| 23:32:10 | Widget | Yah. |
| 23:32:24 | FantaZee | but who could they be ? |
| 23:32:39 | Widget | Chestal and captain_proton know. |
| 23:32:42 | | Chestal was last seen on #bzflag 9 hours, 7 minutes and 26 seconds ago, saying: thunderstorm closing in [Tue Jul 9 15:25:16 2002] |
| 23:32:42 | Widget | ibot: seen Chestal |
| 23:33:18 | FantaZee | i played bzflag for 2 years, but saw realy never so strong players. each of them |
| 23:33:46 | FrootLoop | what happened here |
| 23:33:50 | Widget | FrootLoop: Glückwünsche. |
| 23:33:55 | FrootLoop | ? |
| 23:33:55 | FantaZee | we talk about you |
| 23:34:07 | doughecka | oh |
| 23:34:07 | FrootLoop | english please :-) |
| 23:34:14 | doughecka | network splite |
| 23:34:17 | FrootLoop | is chestal still up |
| 23:34:19 | Widget | FrootLoop: Ask a German. |
| 23:34:22 | doughecka | the server disconnected |
| 23:34:23 | Widget | FrootLoop: No, I think not. |
| 23:35:21 | FrootLoop | darn, the match wont get posted tonight huh, captain proton is away |
| 23:35:39 | Widget | 10-0, was it? |
| 23:35:45 | doughecka | LOL |
| 23:35:46 | doughecka | er |
| 23:35:49 | doughecka | nice job |
| 23:35:51 | Widget | is back (gone 02:05:04) |
| 23:35:53 | doughecka | ; |
| 23:35:55 | Widget | doughecka-- |
| 23:36:04 | doughecka | hey hey |
| 23:36:10 | Widget | doughecka: Bad form. |
| 23:36:10 | | doughecka: i haven't a clue |
| 23:36:10 | doughecka | ibot karma for doughecka? |
| 23:36:14 | FrootLoop | yes widget |
| 23:38:02 | arathorn | hi all |
| 23:39:13 | arathorn | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 23:39:13 | bzbot | Red: 4 players, score: -36 | Green: 4 players, score: 39 | |
| 23:39:34 | FrootLoop | hi ara |
| 23:39:47 | arathorn | hi loop |
| 23:41:46 | FrootLoop | alright, i;m gone, thx again widget for reffing. |
| 23:41:50 | arathorn | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 23:41:50 | bzbot | Dmao (Green):0 (2 wins, 2 losses). kheb (Red):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). M1 (Red):48 (192 wins, 144 losses). duce (Red):12 (65 wins, 53 losses). [BRE]Drastic Elf (Green):-6 (12 wins, 18 losses). Guardian (Green):-84 (53 wins, 137 losses). |
| 23:42:09 | FrootLoop | thats a cool feature |
| 23:42:16 | doughecka | heh |
| 23:42:18 | arathorn | yep:) |
| 23:42:23 | FrootLoop | bye guys |
| 23:42:33 | doughecka | cya |
| 23:42:33 | arathorn | i was see first time before 2 days |
| 23:42:43 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:49:00 | | almogaver was last seen on #tuxscreen 23 hours, 24 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Tue Jul 9 01:24:13 2002] |
| 23:49:00 | arathorn | ibot:seen almogaver |
| 23:49:36 | | t-34 was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 1 hours, 25 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying: Skipp:night kiss to Nico [Mon Jul 8 23:24:28 2002] |
| 23:49:36 | arathorn | ibot:seen t-34 |
| 23:50:51 | | captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 15 hours, 13 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying: will find someone else [Tue Jul 9 09:37:08 2002] |
| 23:50:51 | Widget | ibot: seen captain_proton |
| 23:51:14 | | ibot was last seen on #zaurus 155 days, 18 hours, 42 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: BZFlag: what ? [Mon Feb 4 05:08:46 2002] |
| 23:51:14 | doughecka | ibot seen ibot |
| 23:51:19 | doughecka | heh |
| 23:51:27 | doughecka | #zaurus? |
| 23:51:28 | doughecka | cool |
| 23:51:39 | arathorn | very cool |
| 23:51:43 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:51:44 | doughecka | quite |
| 23:51:55 | doughecka | run bzflag on it yet? |
| 23:52:05 | arathorn | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 23:52:06 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: -37 | Green: 1 players, score: -1 | |
| 23:52:20 | arathorn | widget:ducati? |
| 23:53:00 | arathorn | cya all |
| 23:53:15 | doughecka | cya |
| 23:55:01 | FantaZee | bye all. thx widget for your work ;) |
| 23:55:32 | doughecka | cya |
| 23:55:33 | Widget | FantaZee: Good night. |
| 23:55:36 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 23:56:14 | w339 | I'm going to sleep, cya all! |