| 00:25:14 | Doug_eating | hey |
| 00:25:29 | Widget | ¤ 5000 |
| 00:25:34 | Doug_not_eating | ? |
| 00:25:39 | Doug_not_eating | um |
| 00:25:40 | Widget | Doug_not_eating: Do you have ¤ 5000? |
| 00:25:50 | Doug_not_eating | = 5000? |
| 00:25:54 | Doug_not_eating | whats that? |
| 00:26:01 | Doug_not_eating | I get = sign |
| 00:26:14 | Doug_not_eating | ¤ or this |
| 00:26:21 | Doug_not_eating | what is that? ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ |
| 00:26:25 | Doug_not_eating | ??? |
| 00:26:27 | Widget | ¤ loops like an equals sign to you? |
| 00:26:35 | Doug_not_eating | um |
| 00:26:37 | Doug_not_eating | I think |
| 00:26:40 | Doug_not_eating | its really tiny |
| 00:26:44 | Patlabor221 | looks like a little ninja star :) |
| 00:26:47 | Doug_not_eating | maybe its a small square |
| 00:26:51 | Doug_not_eating | yea!! |
| 00:27:05 | Patlabor221 | thwip ¤ |
| 00:27:11 | Patlabor221 | ¤ |
| 00:27:11 | Doug_not_eating | heh |
| 00:27:15 | Patlabor221 | ¤ |
| 00:27:19 | Patlabor221 | ¤ |
| 00:27:20 | Doug_not_eating | ? |
| 00:27:28 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:27:32 | Patlabor221 | nothing I'm borred |
| 00:27:34 | Widget | Patlabor221: You are using the wrong font. |
| 00:27:49 | Widget | You're using a iso8859-1 font. |
| 00:27:49 | Patlabor221 | I like the ninja stars |
| 00:27:52 | Widget | You should be using iso8859-15 |
| 00:27:55 | Doug_not_eating | is there anyway to have the bzfs output to IRC? |
| 00:28:00 | Patlabor221 | everything is better with ninjas |
| 00:28:02 | Doug_not_eating | like all the chat? |
| 00:28:10 | Patlabor221 | and monkeys |
| 00:28:37 | Patlabor221 | you would have to have it log into a server and a channel |
| 00:28:44 | Patlabor221 | but I'm sure it could be done |
| 00:28:50 | Doug_not_eating | yea |
| 00:28:51 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:29:01 | Patlabor221 | there are opensource IRC clients out there |
| 00:29:17 | Widget | Like X-Chat. |
| 00:29:19 | Doug_not_eating | I would like to beable to have two way chat with a server like ducati |
| 00:29:20 | Widget | The best, of course. |
| 00:29:22 | Doug_not_eating | ;) |
| 00:29:24 | Widget | Yah. |
| 00:29:28 | Widget | We should be able to chat with them. |
| 00:29:29 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:29:35 | Widget | And we should have a robot commentator. |
| 00:29:37 | Doug_not_eating | that would be cool |
| 00:29:38 | Widget | Describing close calls. |
| 00:29:40 | Widget | Flag captures.... |
| 00:29:41 | Doug_not_eating | yea |
| 00:29:43 | Doug_not_eating | :) |
| 00:29:44 | Widget | Etc. |
| 00:29:46 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:29:50 | Doug_not_eating | all in perl |
| 00:29:51 | Doug_not_eating | ;) |
| 00:30:27 | Patlabor221 | easyest thing would proalbly be to modify the server to log all the convos |
| 00:30:34 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:30:36 | Doug_not_eating | yea |
| 00:30:40 | Doug_not_eating | but that would be one way |
| 00:30:41 | Doug_not_eating | :( |
| 00:30:44 | Patlabor221 | then change bz bot check it an post it |
| 00:30:47 | Patlabor221 | that's a start |
| 00:30:51 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:30:54 | Doug_not_eating | yea... |
| 00:31:00 | Patlabor221 | after that you need bzbot to log in as an admin |
| 00:31:01 | Doug_not_eating | aha |
| 00:31:09 | Patlabor221 | sorry as an observer |
| 00:31:10 | Doug_not_eating | I have bzbot here |
| 00:31:17 | Patlabor221 | and realay |
| 00:32:43 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:32:46 | Doug_not_eating | bzbot is broken |
| 00:32:48 | Doug_not_eating | ;) |
| 00:32:54 | Doug_not_eating | wont connect.... |
| 00:33:00 | Doug_not_eating | but it has lots of code in it |
| 00:33:07 | Doug_not_eating | very bloated |
| 00:33:20 | Doug_not_eating | it should use the IRC built into perl |
| 00:34:19 | Widget | Yes. |
| 00:34:24 | Widget | No. |
| 00:34:29 | Doug_not_eating | no? |
| 00:34:30 | Widget | We should write a C program. |
| 00:34:33 | Doug_not_eating | heh |
| 00:34:35 | Widget | No plugins. |
| 00:34:37 | Doug_not_eating | yea |
| 00:34:44 | Doug_not_eating | you write the c program |
| 00:34:47 | Doug_not_eating | ;) |
| 00:34:48 | Widget | OK. |
| 00:34:51 | Widget | Certainly. |
| 00:34:52 | Doug_not_eating | heh |
| 00:35:01 | Doug_not_eating | I aint touching c |
| 00:35:12 | Doug_not_eating | I will stick to perl and python and basic |
| 00:35:13 | Widget | Or perhaps better, Java. |
| 00:35:13 | Doug_not_eating | ;) |
| 00:35:16 | Doug_not_eating | java? |
| 00:35:18 | Doug_not_eating | ugh |
| 00:35:26 | Widget | Java is nice. |
| 00:35:26 | Doug_not_eating | well... |
| 00:35:31 | Doug_not_eating | you could put a gui on it |
| 00:35:33 | Doug_not_eating | ;) |
| 00:35:53 | Doug_not_eating | do you know java? |
| 00:35:54 | Widget | Is should notify people when someone comes close to the flag, when they take the flag, and when they are shot, especially when they're shot close to the base. |
| 00:36:02 | Doug_not_eating | lol |
| 00:36:09 | Widget | It should also give the time remaining and score at every capture. |
| 00:36:10 | Doug_not_eating | and beable to talk to the people |
| 00:36:13 | Widget | Yah |
| 00:36:17 | Doug_not_eating | hmmm |
| 00:36:21 | Doug_not_eating | should be simple |
| 00:36:28 | Doug_not_eating | all you need is the bzprotocall |
| 00:36:42 | Doug_not_eating | ^^^^thats cool sounding^^^ |
| 00:36:44 | Widget | We can glean it from the perl script. |
| 00:36:48 | Doug_not_eating | yea |
| 00:36:50 | Widget | I think I lost it... can you send it again? |
| 00:36:50 | Doug_not_eating | um |
| 00:36:55 | Doug_not_eating | I can upload it... |
| 00:37:08 | Doug_not_eating | but mine does not work... |
| 00:37:22 | Doug_not_eating | you on linux? |
| 00:37:48 | Doug_not_eating | ok |
| 00:37:55 | Doug_not_eating | heckamangroup.com/files |
| 00:37:59 | Doug_not_eating | free download |
| 00:38:03 | Doug_not_eating | for all who wants it |
| 00:38:16 | Doug_not_eating | it will stay up there for a few days at lease |
| 00:38:18 | Doug_not_eating | least |
| 00:38:35 | Patlabor221 | does anyone make a IRC API for C? |
| 00:38:35 | Widget | /dcc send Widget <name of file> |
| 00:38:44 | Doug_not_eating | cant |
| 00:38:47 | Doug_not_eating | NAT/firewall |
| 00:38:56 | Doug_not_eating | small file |
| 00:39:00 | Doug_not_eating | get it from the website |
| 00:39:01 | Widget | Patlabor221: I don't know, but I'm sure there's one for Java. |
| 00:39:15 | Doug_not_eating | http://www.heckamangroup.com/files |
| 00:39:16 | Patlabor221 | but I don't know java :) |
| 00:39:25 | Widget | Patlabor221: Learn. |
| 00:39:29 | Doug_not_eating | heh |
| 00:39:35 | Doug_not_eating | battle of wits.... |
| 00:39:49 | Doug_not_eating | oh cool |
| 00:39:55 | Doug_not_eating | I did a search for bzbot |
| 00:39:56 | Doug_not_eating | look |
| 00:39:57 | Doug_not_eating | http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/chatzilla/motifs/faces/bzbot.png |
| 00:40:08 | Doug_not_eating | it allready has a face |
| 00:40:09 | Doug_not_eating | :) |
| 00:40:13 | Patlabor221 | that's the reason I don't wana learn pearl too many languates |
| 00:40:20 | Doug_not_eating | lol |
| 00:40:25 | Patlabor221 | I'ld rather know how IRC works interanaly |
| 00:40:29 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:40:32 | Widget | Patlabor221: Telnet. |
| 00:40:37 | Doug_not_eating | its pretty simple |
| 00:40:39 | Doug_not_eating | yea |
| 00:40:39 | Widget | Patlabor221: You can simply connect to it as a socket. |
| 00:40:43 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:40:49 | Widget | Patlabor221: So long as you answer every PING with a PONG. |
| 00:40:50 | Doug_not_eating | goes and trys that out |
| 00:40:57 | Widget | Patlabor221: or else you'll get a PING timeout. |
| 00:41:01 | Doug_not_eating | cool |
| 00:41:04 | Doug_not_eating | brb |
| 00:41:04 | Widget | Patlabor221: In fact, you can telnet to an IRC server. |
| 00:41:22 | Widget | telnet irc.openprojects.net 6667 |
| 00:41:31 | Patlabor221 | ohh cool |
| 00:41:36 | Patlabor221 | then that would work |
| 00:41:45 | Doug_not_eating | um |
| 00:41:54 | Widget | But using an IRC API is sooooo much easier. |
| 00:41:58 | Doug_not_eating | ack |
| 00:42:05 | Widget | There is probably one for C somewhere. |
| 00:42:12 | Widget | And almost definitely for Java. |
| 00:42:52 | Doug_not_eating | register first? |
| 00:42:55 | Doug_not_eating | tell me how? |
| 00:43:10 | Widget | To do what? |
| 00:43:18 | Doug_not_eating | I telnetted to irc.openprojects.net |
| 00:43:18 | Widget | Oh, you're not following the protocol properly. |
| 00:43:23 | Doug_not_eating | and it sat there |
| 00:43:27 | Patlabor221 | damn I broke the power button on a PC |
| 00:43:28 | Doug_not_eating | so I typed PONG |
| 00:43:34 | Doug_not_eating | Patlabor221: oops |
| 00:43:38 | Doug_not_eating | ;) |
| 00:43:38 | Patlabor221 | I have to start it wiht a screwdriver |
| 00:43:42 | Doug_not_eating | lol |
| 00:44:04 | Doug_not_eating | so how do I open the IRC connetion? |
| 00:44:07 | Patlabor221 | it works |
| 00:44:32 | Widget | There definitely is an API for Java, since you see all those Java IRC applets. |
| 00:44:40 | Doug_not_eating | yea |
| 00:44:45 | Doug_not_eating | hmm |
| 00:44:47 | Doug_not_eating | sheesh |
| 00:44:58 | Doug_not_eating | says I need to reguster first |
| 00:45:09 | Widget | http://dreamland.tky.hut.fi/IrssiBot/documentation/api/irssibot/protocol/Irc.html |
| 00:45:13 | Doug_not_eating | ah |
| 00:45:14 | Doug_not_eating | thx |
| 00:45:38 | Doug_not_eating | bah |
| 00:45:40 | dinah | is back (gone 00:55:39) |
| 00:45:45 | Doug_not_eating | thats for java? |
| 00:45:46 | Widget | hello, dinah. |
| 00:45:49 | Doug_not_eating | hey dinah |
| 00:45:51 | Widget | dinah: We are working on a new bzbot. |
| 00:45:54 | Patlabor221 | 'lo |
| 00:45:56 | Widget | dinah: Can you help? |
| 00:46:02 | Doug_not_eating | I want the IRC protocall |
| 00:46:05 | Doug_not_eating | in text |
| 00:46:08 | Doug_not_eating | for humans |
| 00:46:09 | Doug_not_eating | ;) |
| 00:46:10 | dinah | sure if you need a picture drawn.... |
| 00:46:17 | Doug_not_eating | hehe |
| 00:46:22 | Patlabor221 | well it'll need a realy cool icon |
| 00:46:23 | Widget | Doug_not_eating: Why? |
| 00:46:34 | Doug_not_eating | so I can try telneting into it |
| 00:46:39 | Doug_not_eating | just for kicks |
| 00:47:18 | Doug_not_eating | http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1459.html |
| 00:47:23 | Doug_not_eating | google rules |
| 00:48:05 | Widget | http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1459.html |
| 00:48:11 | Widget | Haha. |
| 00:48:13 | Doug_not_eating | um |
| 00:48:18 | dinah | why dont we just use some neural network code for the bot... ;) |
| 00:48:20 | Doug_not_eating | great minds think alike |
| 00:48:42 | Doug_not_eating | dinah: um, does any of us know how a neural network works? |
| 00:48:55 | Patlabor221 | I do have a bunch of old 486's we could make a beowoulf cluster |
| 00:48:56 | dinah | envisions HAL the bot |
| 00:49:01 | Doug_not_eating | lol |
| 00:49:10 | Doug_not_eating | MY mind is going |
| 00:49:14 | Doug_not_eating | I can feel it |
| 00:49:18 | Widget | Maybe it will kick dinah. |
| 00:49:22 | Patlabor221 | would be scared when it shouts "I live!!!!!! Death to the meatlings" |
| 00:49:25 | Doug_not_eating | heh |
| 00:49:27 | Widget | Just like it jettisonned that one guy. |
| 00:49:32 | Doug_not_eating | lol |
| 00:49:36 | dinah | dave? |
| 00:49:46 | Doug_not_eating | can you hear me dave? |
| 00:50:10 | Doug_not_eating | bah |
| 00:50:10 | Doug_not_eating | brb |
| 00:50:26 | dinah | http://www.explodingdog.com/redrobot.html |
| 00:50:47 | Doug_not_eating | heh |
| 00:50:50 | Patlabor221 | red robot kicks :) |
| 00:50:58 | Widget | http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/chatzilla/motifs/faces/bzbot.png |
| 00:51:02 | Patlabor221 | "crush ahh humans" |
| 00:51:07 | Doug_not_eating | lol |
| 00:51:31 | Widget | MrApathyCream would be the best to ask on this. |
| 00:51:42 | Widget | He is a Java guru. He has the "Online Players" applet on his webpage. |
| 00:51:43 | Doug_not_eating | yea |
| 00:51:46 | Doug_not_eating | lol |
| 00:51:52 | Doug_not_eating | thats a cool java applet |
| 00:51:54 | Doug_not_eating | http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/Hal/ |
| 00:52:06 | dinah | its not an applet its a plugin |
| 00:52:13 | Doug_not_eating | it is? |
| 00:52:21 | Doug_not_eating | I downloaded it and its on my server too |
| 00:52:28 | Doug_not_eating | its hidden |
| 00:52:30 | Widget | dinah: What? No, it's an applet. |
| 00:52:49 | Widget | dinah: It requires a plugin though. |
| 00:53:00 | dinah | oh really it a plugin |
| 00:53:19 | Doug_not_eating | Let me put it this way, Mr Amer. The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error. |
| 00:54:37 | Patlabor221 | he eats too much |
| 00:54:41 | Patlabor221 | he's gonna end up fat |
| 00:54:42 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 00:54:57 | Patlabor221 | found a C api for an IRC bot |
| 00:55:02 | Doug_eating | struggles to stand |
| 00:55:19 | Patlabor221 | http://www.2010.org/index.html?p=download |
| 00:55:35 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 00:55:39 | Patlabor221 | and it is called the HAL 9000 |
| 00:55:42 | Doug_eating | yea |
| 00:55:49 | Doug_eating | downloaded it yesterdat |
| 00:56:48 | Widget | But there's an IRC class for Java!! |
| 00:56:52 | Widget | We should use Java. |
| 00:56:55 | Widget | It will be much easier. |
| 00:56:58 | Doug_eating | hmm |
| 00:56:59 | Doug_eating | bah |
| 00:57:06 | Doug_eating | we have more C programmers that java |
| 00:57:11 | Doug_eating | program it in java |
| 00:57:16 | Doug_eating | er C |
| 00:57:22 | Doug_eating | then port it to java |
| 00:57:33 | Patlabor221 | how are you going ot modify the server code to talk to the java app? |
| 00:57:54 | Widget | Why do we need to modify the server code? |
| 00:58:05 | Widget | bzbot, for instance, does not. |
| 00:58:12 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 00:58:13 | bzbot | Red: 1 players, score: -9 | Green: 2 players, score: 18 | |
| 00:58:37 | Patlabor221 | does it log into the server? |
| 00:58:46 | Patlabor221 | the server publishes it stats |
| 00:58:46 | Widget | Yah. |
| 00:58:52 | Widget | It connects to the server. |
| 00:58:52 | Doug_eating | is eating |
| 00:59:09 | Patlabor221 | then you will have to chage the server to be able to send messages via proxy too |
| 00:59:18 | Patlabor221 | like an admin client login |
| 01:01:10 | arathorn | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 01:01:39 | arathorn | how u make that query? |
| 01:01:45 | dinah | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 01:01:46 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: -9 | Green: 2 players, score: 18 | |
| 01:01:54 | Patlabor221 | you had a space in front of it |
| 01:02:10 | arathorn | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 01:02:10 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: -9 | Green: 2 players, score: 18 | |
| 01:02:15 | dinah | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 01:02:16 | bzbot | M1 (Green):12 (34 wins, 22 losses). Widget (Red):3 (7 wins, 4 losses). terse (Green):-8 (17 wins, 25 losses). Worf (Red):1 (26 wins, 25 losses). |
| 01:02:23 | arathorn | Patlabor221:thx alot |
| 01:02:28 | Patlabor221 | np |
| 01:02:53 | angelina | hello |
| 01:02:58 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 01:04:16 | Doug_eating | hallo |
| 01:04:49 | angelina | finish eating :) |
| 01:04:59 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:05:07 | Doug_eating | gegfdhfe? |
| 01:05:11 | angelina | :) |
| 01:06:05 | Doug_eating | Yes. There is a circular object near the equator. It is 22 thousand kilometres in diameter. It is comprised of rectangular objects. |
| 01:07:26 | Patlabor221 | wtf? |
| 01:07:51 | Doug_eating | sorry |
| 01:07:57 | angelina | Patlabor221> yes...wtf? |
| 01:07:57 | Doug_eating | wrong window |
| 01:08:18 | Patlabor221 | an odd one that one is |
| 01:08:28 | Doug_eating | me? |
| 01:08:34 | Patlabor221 | yes :) |
| 01:08:34 | Doug_eating | ;) |
| 01:08:38 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:09:44 | Patlabor221 | I guess we are too borring |
| 01:09:59 | Doug_eating | lol |
| 01:10:13 | arathorn | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 01:10:13 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: -10 | Green: 3 players, score: 19 | |
| 01:10:39 | arathorn | that is nice option:) |
| 01:10:47 | Doug_eating | yea |
| 01:11:34 | Patlabor221 | prays that linux installs this time |
| 01:11:38 | Doug_eating | lol |
| 01:11:42 | Doug_eating | http://www.daemonnews.org/199907/irchack.html |
| 01:12:23 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:13:07 | dinah | listens to the red robot theme song |
| 01:13:18 | Doug_eating | what is red robot? |
| 01:13:54 | dinah | http://www.explodingdog.com/ |
| 01:14:16 | paul | http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=011996 |
| 01:14:19 | dinah | http://www.dieselsweeties.com/strips/sw26.shtml ;) |
| 01:14:24 | Doug_eating | ??? |
| 01:14:34 | Doug_eating | hello Pat221-Laptop |
| 01:14:42 | Pat221-Laptop | sup :) |
| 01:14:48 | Doug_eating | hehe |
| 01:14:57 | Doug_eating | cloning is strange |
| 01:15:15 | Doug_eating | boom |
| 01:15:23 | Doug_eating | lol |
| 01:15:24 | Doug_eating | ??? |
| 01:15:28 | Doug_eating | wierd |
| 01:15:31 | patlabor221 | whoa |
| 01:15:36 | Doug_eating | clones fighting each other |
| 01:15:38 | Doug_eating | cool |
| 01:16:06 | patlabor221 | need to use the main machine for something very very important |
| 01:16:16 | dinah | paul: thats nothing, i have a worse one :( |
| 01:16:23 | Doug_eating | lol |
| 01:17:14 | Doug_eating | rats |
| 01:17:17 | paul | dinah: whats that? |
| 01:17:31 | Doug_eating | telneting into an irc server is though |
| 01:17:34 | Doug_eating | er |
| 01:17:36 | Doug_eating | tuf |
| 01:17:39 | paul | dinah: i know the one of the harley rider who hit the road wearing an open face helmet. |
| 01:17:50 | Doug_eating | ouch |
| 01:17:50 | patlabor221 | ouch!!! |
| 01:17:55 | Doug_eating | that would hurt |
| 01:18:02 | Doug_eating | right? |
| 01:18:05 | dinah | paul: that link you put on, i've a worse scare than the bloke with staples in his back :( |
| 01:18:05 | paul | dinah: he basically had no face left - it was on rotten.com ages ago. |
| 01:18:19 | Doug_eating | ugh |
| 01:18:28 | Doug_eating | /join #wierdness |
| 01:18:31 | paul | :) |
| 01:18:36 | paul | dinah: what kind of scar? |
| 01:18:43 | dinah | i get plastic surgery in a few weeeks |
| 01:18:44 | Doug_eating | a big one |
| 01:18:49 | Doug_eating | er |
| 01:18:50 | paul | has some neat wounds too.. |
| 01:19:09 | paul | dinah: eek. commiserations. |
| 01:19:12 | paul | dinah: on what? |
| 01:19:19 | dinah | paul: like the kind you get when they remove a lung |
| 01:19:28 | paul | dinah: ah.. lovely. |
| 01:19:30 | patlabor221 | I wonder if they realy use plastic? |
| 01:19:33 | paul | dinah: why? |
| 01:19:48 | paul | had a friend when he was a kid who had most of one lung removed. |
| 01:19:49 | dinah | i had really bad consumption |
| 01:20:00 | paul | unlucky |
| 01:20:10 | dinah | http://www.totalworlddomination.ch/ ;) |
| 01:20:11 | paul | beats my 'wound' anyway. |
| 01:20:51 | Doug_eating | bah |
| 01:20:58 | paul | has a 2-piece collarbone |
| 01:21:10 | Doug_eating | gives up on trying to telnet to an IRC server |
| 01:21:28 | Doug_eating | checks his email manualy |
| 01:21:50 | paul | broken fingers, dodgey knee that also is missing all the thick skin people usually have just under their knee caps. |
| 01:22:05 | Doug_eating | ugh |
| 01:22:16 | paul | dinah: what's that world domination link... |
| 01:22:23 | paul | dinah: nothin much comes up for me. |
| 01:22:42 | dinah | just a funny name for a web site |
| 01:22:49 | paul | ah... ok. :) |
| 01:22:53 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:23:06 | dinah | www.barins4zombies.com ;) |
| 01:23:18 | patlabor221 | now that one was good |
| 01:23:27 | patlabor221 | I love how it looks like amazon |
| 01:23:28 | Doug_eating | was |
| 01:23:31 | paul | dinah: whats the plastic surgery for? |
| 01:23:45 | paul | dinah: that link didnt work... |
| 01:23:45 | dinah | paul: to get rid of the scar |
| 01:23:51 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:23:55 | paul | ah.. |
| 01:24:05 | paul | best wishes anyway. |
| 01:24:14 | paul | and a speedy recovery |
| 01:24:21 | dinah | oh yeah |
| 01:24:27 | Doug_eating | ja, me too |
| 01:24:59 | paul | how did you get consumption? thought that was a disease that was easily controlled these days. |
| 01:24:59 | dinah | loves having doug on ignore, hasent seen him talk all day :) |
| 01:25:07 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:25:13 | paul | dinah: he replies to your comments.. 's funny. |
| 01:25:18 | patlabor221 | don't worry he hasn't said mutch |
| 01:25:25 | Doug_eating | lol |
| 01:25:31 | Doug_eating | nothing at all |
| 01:25:54 | dinah | doug if your there: http://www.stoolfairy.com/ |
| 01:26:22 | Doug_eating | thanks alot |
| 01:26:27 | Doug_eating | I needed that |
| 01:26:32 | dinah | oh paul it should be http://www.brains4zombies.com/ |
| 01:26:32 | Doug_eating | rolls his eyes |
| 01:27:04 | dinah | http://www.moistnap.com/ |
| 01:27:19 | paul | LOL |
| 01:27:31 | Doug_eating | um |
| 01:27:33 | Doug_eating | ok... |
| 01:28:04 | Doug_eating | /join #everything_that_does_not_partake_with_bzflag |
| 01:28:05 | paul | where do you find all these mad web sites? |
| 01:28:42 | dinah | i am queen of bizare sites |
| 01:28:50 | paul | seems so |
| 01:29:07 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:29:12 | dinah | romoed doug from ignore a bit ago and points out |
| 01:29:19 | Doug_eating | points out? |
| 01:29:40 | dinah | BZFlag himself said i can talk about whatever i bloody want so long as no one important get mad |
| 01:29:50 | Doug_eating | ok |
| 01:29:56 | Doug_eating | then keep it down |
| 01:30:10 | dinah | puts doug back on ignore |
| 01:30:14 | Doug_eating | or I will say the W word.... |
| 01:30:16 | Doug_eating | ;) |
| 01:30:23 | Doug_eating | a warning |
| 01:31:05 | BZFlag | dinah: hey, I just said nobody. not nobody important. ;-) |
| 01:31:17 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:31:22 | Doug_eating | hello baflag |
| 01:31:29 | Doug_eating | er |
| 01:31:31 | Doug_eating | bzflag |
| 01:31:33 | dinah | trust me doug is nobody |
| 01:31:46 | Doug_eating | bah |
| 01:32:17 | Doug_eating | BZFlag: we where trying to make a new bzbot, so we can have a twoway chat with a server |
| 01:32:24 | dinah | is woried BZFlag may no longer like her ;-/ |
| 01:32:45 | Doug_eating | is there anyway to chat with a server in IRC? |
| 01:32:49 | BZFlag | Doug_eating: hmm would it keep a connection with the server? |
| 01:32:56 | Doug_eating | yea |
| 01:33:00 | Doug_eating | like an observer |
| 01:33:07 | BZFlag | I used to run a client on -echo and redirect the output here for tourneys. |
| 01:33:26 | paul | BZFlag: that's a neat idea. |
| 01:33:27 | Doug_eating | how did you redirect it here? |
| 01:33:31 | patlabor221 | you could redirect that to a java bot |
| 01:33:37 | BZFlag | directions on the web site. |
| 01:33:41 | Doug_eating | oh? |
| 01:33:41 | Doug_eating | ok |
| 01:33:43 | Doug_eating | brb |
| 01:33:47 | paul | BZFlag: or perhaps to its own channel - #bztourney or similar. |
| 01:34:00 | Doug_eating | wiki? |
| 01:34:25 | BZFlag | http://bzflag.org/wiki/view/IRCLogging |
| 01:34:31 | Doug_eating | ah |
| 01:34:32 | Doug_eating | thanks |
| 01:34:55 | BZFlag | paul: yeah, actually it was #BZFlog or some such. |
| 01:35:10 | Doug_eating | hmm |
| 01:37:00 | Widget | Doug_eating: I found a Java IRC class. |
| 01:37:06 | Widget | Doug_eating: Do not be so insistent on C. |
| 01:37:12 | Doug_eating | ok |
| 01:37:17 | Doug_eating | fine with me.. |
| 01:37:26 | Widget | Go read up on the doc |
| 01:37:32 | Doug_eating | its just that I thought java was bloated or something |
| 01:37:40 | Widget | Bloated? |
| 01:37:43 | Doug_eating | yea |
| 01:37:44 | Widget | Hvarfor? |
| 01:37:46 | Doug_eating | slow |
| 01:37:54 | Widget | It's slighly slower than C. |
| 01:37:58 | Widget | But how does that matter here? |
| 01:38:08 | Doug_eating | hmm |
| 01:38:16 | Widget | It might matter for something like device drivers, where you want something as small and efficient as possible. |
| 01:38:30 | Doug_eating | yea |
| 01:38:33 | Widget | But that's why Java's not used for device drivers. =P |
| 01:38:35 | patlabor221 | that VM layer has to take some time |
| 01:38:35 | Doug_eating | IRC is ok then |
| 01:38:38 | Doug_eating | yea |
| 01:39:08 | Widget | patlabor221: Java 2 is less than 10 times slower than C. |
| 01:39:16 | Doug_eating | ugh |
| 01:39:20 | patlabor221 | icky |
| 01:39:29 | Doug_eating | poo |
| 01:39:29 | Widget | No, that means it's pretty fast. |
| 01:39:34 | Doug_eating | yea |
| 01:39:36 | Doug_eating | but still |
| 01:39:43 | BZFlag | less than 10 times slower. wow. |
| 01:39:44 | Widget | Look, you won't even be able to tell the difference, most likelyu. |
| 01:39:46 | patlabor221 | still it involves the word "slower" |
| 01:40:00 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:40:01 | Doug_eating | well |
| 01:40:07 | Doug_eating | its ok for IRC I guess |
| 01:40:09 | Doug_eating | ;) |
| 01:40:26 | BZFlag | and only takes 40 times as much memory. |
| 01:40:30 | Doug_eating | yea |
| 01:40:32 | Doug_eating | only |
| 01:40:38 | patlabor221 | try doing arrays in it |
| 01:40:49 | Widget | Gah, memory is cheap. |
| 01:41:07 | BZFlag | reminds himself not to hire Widget |
| 01:41:21 | Widget | Haha. |
| 01:42:04 | patlabor221 | cost of hardware is no excuse for slopyness |
| 01:42:11 | Widget | It isn't sloppy. |
| 01:42:12 | BZFlag | if you insist on java as a language, have you considered gcj? |
| 01:42:15 | Widget | It's far more elegant. |
| 01:42:35 | Widget | The GNU Java COmpiler? |
| 01:42:48 | Widget | You can use just in time compiling, should you want. |
| 01:42:54 | patlabor221 | java was made to make litle platfrom independet stuff |
| 01:42:56 | BZFlag | using much more memory is more elegant? or running slower nore elegant? I'm not sure which you mean. |
| 01:42:56 | Widget | And then it will be as fast as native code. |
| 01:43:07 | Widget | BZFlag: The language itself. |
| 01:43:17 | patlabor221 | it's striped down c |
| 01:43:31 | Widget | BZFlag: Use JIT, if you want the same speed as a native program. |
| 01:43:36 | Widget | patlabor221: Hardly. |
| 01:43:38 | Doug_eating | lol |
| 01:43:40 | Widget | patlabor221: Do you know Java? |
| 01:43:43 | BZFlag | JIT != same speed. |
| 01:43:54 | Widget | In execution, yes. |
| 01:44:12 | patlabor221 | I have seen i a number of times |
| 01:44:14 | Doug_eating | bah!! |
| 01:44:18 | Doug_eating | who cares? |
| 01:44:27 | Doug_eating | its for a bot.. |
| 01:44:29 | BZFlag | JIT is closer to same speed. but I have never seen a real application get even close. |
| 01:44:32 | Doug_eating | not a game or anything |
| 01:45:35 | BZFlag | I don't care, use what you want. I've used java for real solutions before. But I'm not going to even try to claim that it was efficient in either memory or speed. |
| 01:46:01 | Widget | I never claimed that either. |
| 01:46:05 | bryjen | "who cares? its for a bot.. not a game or anything" <-- I think somebody said this earlier, but the can of worms got opened anyway |
| 01:46:08 | BZFlag | this little applet ran on multiple hw platforms. java can be good at that if you have the same jvm everywhere. |
| 01:46:12 | Widget | But is efficiency really the priority? |
| 01:46:31 | patlabor221 | yeah that's what it was made for, and it's good at that part of it |
| 01:46:34 | Widget | The present bzbot is hardly efficient. |
| 01:46:36 | Doug_eating | heh |
| 01:46:53 | BZFlag | heh neither is ibot. ;-) |
| 01:47:01 | Doug_bed_ZZZZzzz | ok |
| 01:47:03 | Doug_bed_ZZZZzzz | guys' |
| 01:47:06 | Doug_bed_ZZZZzzz | cya l8r |
| 01:47:12 | Widget | Bye. |
| 01:47:14 | Widget | Good night. |
| 01:47:18 | Doug_bed_ZZZZzzz | :) |
| 01:47:39 | patlabor221 | night |
| 01:47:53 | BZFlag | I'd love to see a java mud that's written in java and uses java for internal development as well. |
| 01:47:57 | BZFlag | that would be cool. |
| 01:48:07 | Widget | BZFlag: Oh, yes, a friend of mine is working on a similar project. |
| 01:48:13 | Widget | BZFlag: Called "Islands". Wait a bit. |
| 01:48:28 | BZFlag | then your avatar with all it's features might stand a chance of being portable to other "worlds". |
| 01:48:54 | patlabor221 | that would be good |
| 01:48:58 | Widget | I found a MOO which is extensible in PHP, Perl, Python etc. and allows you to use editors like vi and emacs in game. |
| 01:49:04 | Widget | More like a shell than a MOO... |
| 01:49:05 | patlabor221 | then any platform could be a server |
| 01:49:12 | Widget | http://www.otterspace.com/islands.html |
| 01:49:19 | Widget | BZFlag: You might find this interesting. |
| 01:49:50 | Widget | BZFlag: It aims to be extensible in Java, but it doesn't talk about this. |
| 01:50:45 | patlabor221 | interesting like a bunch of linked worlds |
| 01:50:46 | BZFlag | eek. no thanx. written in postscript. now there's an easy language to maintain. |
| 01:51:02 | patlabor221 | god lord why? |
| 01:51:07 | Widget | BZFlag: Where does it say that? |
| 01:51:14 | Widget | Eep. |
| 01:51:17 | Widget | That's out of date. |
| 01:52:10 | BZFlag | write it in java, link to real world services like email, nntp, web etc. don't try to recreate the internet, just wrap everything up into a virtual world. |
| 01:52:45 | BZFlag | then present a java interface that will run in a browser, and avatars can be programmable and run in the user's browser. ;-) |
| 01:53:11 | Widget | I am not involved. To me, this seems like vapourware. |
| 01:53:13 | dinah | is in awe of the geek speek |
| 01:53:15 | BZFlag | user could even (optionally) get a live 3d view. ;-) |
| 01:53:24 | Widget | From the browser? |
| 01:53:29 | Widget | That's what we need for BZFlag. |
| 01:53:30 | BZFlag | sure, why not? |
| 01:53:31 | Widget | :) |
| 01:53:50 | BZFlag | yeah, in 20 years or so the jvm would be fast enough to be a bzflag client. |
| 01:54:20 | Widget | Haha |
| 01:55:04 | Widget | imagines BZFlag years from now. It will have Unicode support, so I can chat in Chinese on it. One will be able to chat with AIM users, check newsgroups and email, and surf the web from BZFlag. |
| 01:55:07 | jzaun | Is there an archive of cvs commit messages anywhere? |
| 01:55:08 | Widget | In short... it will be Emacs. |
| 01:55:24 | BZFlag | when you are on you pentium mega ultra super extra pro. 250Ghz system with 16G of ram and a fibre connection to the net. perhaps. |
| 01:56:05 | BZFlag | jzaun: there is a commits mail list, shoulc be ab archive someplace. |
| 01:56:09 | Widget | Yay, my data structures assignment was postponed to Wednesday instead of tomorrow. |
| 01:56:18 | Widget | I have one more day to work on it. |
| 01:56:39 | jzaun | BZFlag: heh, someplace narrows it down alot :-/ |
| 01:56:40 | BZFlag | http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/13814/0/ |
| 01:56:48 | jzaun | Cool, thanks |
| 01:57:36 | BZFlag | Widget: sure, let's just map mozilla to teleporter pages and let you fire on links to navigate. |
| 01:58:28 | Widget | The Moles' patch really is wonderful. |
| 01:58:31 | BZFlag | laments the non arrival of the sextium processors. |
| 01:58:31 | Widget | Will it be committed? |
| 01:58:42 | BZFlag | what patch is that? |
| 01:58:52 | bryjen | with the way Intel's pushing clock numbers, wont the 250GHz model be out in the next couple of years? |
| 02:00:05 | BZFlag | bryjen: ok, perhaps a 250Thz model then? |
| 02:00:21 | Widget | http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~gumz/dateien/bzflag/proof.png |
| 02:01:05 | bryjen | that may be the better-than-sextium :) |
| 02:01:20 | BZFlag | Widget: what's that "proof" of? |
| 02:01:31 | Widget | BZFlag: The Moles' patch. |
| 02:02:13 | BZFlag | which does what? |
| 02:02:17 | Widget | http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~gumz/dateien/bzflag/ |
| 02:02:38 | Widget | It allows you to restore the radar to the old way, edit panel translucency on the fly, etc. |
| 02:02:53 | Widget | Old GUI, I mean. |
| 02:02:59 | Widget | Yah. |
| 02:03:03 | Widget | Try it out, if you want to see. |
| 02:03:26 | patlabor221 | mourns the loss of the bad dimm that was the source of all his linux problems |
| 02:03:35 | BZFlag | and here I thought it was just an old screen shot. |
| 02:04:06 | bryjen | bzflag - now with amazing new time-warp code to travel back to UI's past! |
| 02:04:13 | BZFlag | heh |
| 02:05:56 | bryjen | seriously, i thought the old panel looked kind of clunky, but the transparency does bug me a bit. |
| 02:06:20 | bryjen | you've probably heard that a thousand time by now. oops, 1001, sorry.... |
| 02:11:01 | dinah | i love the transparency, but i think im the only one... |
| 02:11:19 | Widget | Yah. The translucency is annoying. |
| 02:11:48 | dinah | huggs the awsome transparency |
| 02:11:49 | Widget | We must thank Chestal, stout defender of the old guard for bringing us back to the status quo. |
| 02:13:25 | paul | likes the transparency.. |
| 02:20:06 | BZFlag | I don't see much reason to put back the old panel. |
| 02:20:50 | BZFlag | it might be nice to have similar setup with just radar and msg areas below and the old squashed view above. |
| 02:21:17 | BZFlag | the horz box on the top of the old panel is not used for anything, why waste space on it? |
| 02:21:37 | bryjen | the floating boxes look is fine -- cleaner even. |
| 02:21:41 | dinah | BZFlag i totally love the new gui |
| 02:22:11 | patlabor221 | people just fear change |
| 02:23:31 | bryjen | i fear eye strain.... and that blue tank that keeps sneaking up behind me :) |
| 02:24:16 | patlabor221 | visability is an issuse, but allowing variable transparency would let everyone be happy on that point |
| 02:24:57 | dinah | the new chestal patch alowws for on the flay transparency change |
| 02:25:03 | patlabor221 | with User interfaces it's hard to allways please everyone |
| 02:25:15 | patlabor221 | yeah and I think that's agood thing |
| 02:25:25 | patlabor221 | but the old interface was kinda lame |
| 02:25:54 | Widget | patlabor221: That's what akira's original patch did. |
| 02:26:07 | Widget | patlabor221: It allowed you to have variable translucency, and edit it on the fly. |
| 02:26:21 | patlabor221 | yes I know |
| 02:26:31 | patlabor221 | I like the shots as lines too |
| 02:26:39 | dinah | before i had to fiddle with the sorce code, very dangerous for little ol me |
| 02:26:40 | jpablo | well i think the problem with the new HUD is not just the GUI. |
| 02:26:41 | patlabor221 | lets me see a bounce better |
| 02:26:46 | jpablo | but also the speed. |
| 02:27:12 | dinah | i have good speed almost same fps as before |
| 02:27:24 | jpablo | are you using hw rendering ? |
| 02:27:28 | patlabor221 | older hardware will not handle the trasperancy well |
| 02:27:39 | patlabor221 | nor will most software |
| 02:27:53 | patlabor221 | ohh that's right you play on a command line :) |
| 02:27:54 | dinah | sftarw didnt handel the old gui well |
| 02:28:12 | jpablo | i will like a version of bzflag that was just the radar. |
| 02:28:23 | jpablo | so it will work on ipaq's and things like that :-P |
| 02:28:26 | patlabor221 | using ascii art |
| 02:28:37 | jpablo | libaa :-D |
| 02:28:50 | patlabor221 | they did it to quake |
| 02:29:21 | jpablo | i guess doing it in bzflag would not be so dificult. |
| 02:29:26 | dinah | goes to bed |
| 02:29:35 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 02:29:39 | jpablo | there's a OpenGL implementation using libaa. |
| 02:29:46 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:30:00 | jpablo | we just need someone crazy enougth. |
| 02:30:11 | patlabor221 | i'm thinkin that's you dude |
| 02:31:08 | jpablo | nah. |
| 03:13:21 | Widget | hihihi |
| 03:49:10 | patlabor221 | gets ready to throttle his second comuter |
| 04:01:11 | Pat221-Debug | This is a test |
| 04:01:45 | patlabor221 | cool the irc API WORKS |
| 04:03:59 | Widget | Ooooooh. |
| 04:04:00 | Widget | Cool. |
| 04:04:03 | Widget | For C? |
| 04:04:09 | Widget | Lemme see the program. |
| 04:04:35 | patlabor221 | c++ |
| 04:04:45 | patlabor221 | it's on codeguru |
| 04:04:52 | cryms0n | irc api for whut? |
| 04:05:05 | patlabor221 | secret evil plans |
| 04:05:24 | patlabor221 | looks like they used winsoc |
| 04:05:48 | patlabor221 | but not so bad that it can't be ported to regular sockets for other os's |
| 04:06:45 | Widget | C++!?!? For the love of God, no! |
| 04:06:51 | Widget | Vesides, I don't know C++. |
| 04:07:02 | patlabor221 | umm it's just c with classes |
| 04:07:09 | patlabor221 | it's not like it's that difrent |
| 04:07:21 | patlabor221 | for as much as they are using it |
| 04:07:43 | patlabor221 | think of it like C with some Java |
| 04:08:33 | Widget | It's horrible. |
| 04:08:37 | Widget | It has multiple inheritance. |
| 04:08:47 | patlabor221 | so |
| 04:08:54 | Widget | Overloaded operators. |
| 04:08:59 | Widget | Horrible, horrible stuff!!!!! |
| 04:09:18 | patlabor221 | and this is bad how? |
| 04:09:49 | patlabor221 | most of the rest of the world seems to get by ok wiht it |
| 04:10:29 | patlabor221 | i'm only seeing a couple derived classes |
| 04:10:43 | patlabor221 | and just the stream operatior overloaded |
| 04:10:48 | Widget | Multiple inheritance is horrible. |
| 04:10:53 | Widget | Automatic coersions too. |
| 04:10:55 | patlabor221 | please explain horible |
| 04:10:58 | Widget | That's part of what made Java so popular. |
| 04:11:14 | Widget | They're like pointers. Unless you know precisely what you're doing, it opens a can of worms. |
| 04:11:16 | patlabor221 | derived classes can be very ver powerfull |
| 04:11:23 | Widget | (Multiple inheritance, that is) |
| 04:11:24 | patlabor221 | not exactly |
| 04:11:42 | patlabor221 | all derived classes are instances of multiple ineritance |
| 04:11:55 | patlabor221 | I coulldn't do most of my job without it |
| 04:12:12 | patlabor221 | base classes make wraping up common code so easy |
| 04:12:37 | patlabor221 | so basicly what your saying is that java is for people who don't know what they are doing ? :) |
| 04:13:06 | Widget | It's for people who want to have less chance of messing up. |
| 04:13:22 | Widget | Or people who want the other people who are working on their project to have less chance of messing up. |
| 04:13:49 | patlabor221 | well I think that writing something once then deriving off of it makes it realy easy |
| 04:14:02 | patlabor221 | it actualy makes you mess up less |
| 04:14:08 | patlabor221 | get it right onece then just reuse |
| 04:14:21 | patlabor221 | and only change the things that need to be difrent in each instnace |
| 04:14:30 | Widget | You can have subclasses without multiple inheritance. |
| 04:14:32 | Widget | Like in Java. |
| 04:15:23 | patlabor221 | then I don't understand multiple heritance as you speak |
| 04:15:24 | cryms0n | change an is-a to a has-a |
| 04:15:32 | patlabor221 | you mean multiple parents |
| 04:15:58 | Widget | A class just has one parent class, that's all. |
| 04:16:06 | Widget | Yes..... that's what's called multiple inheritance. |
| 04:16:16 | Widget | Having a class derived from two or more base classes. |
| 04:16:26 | patlabor221 | still that can be very powerfull |
| 04:16:31 | patlabor221 | but I don't use that often |
| 04:16:47 | Widget | But there's no logical way to say which actual function should be called when the child class doesn't override the method. |
| 04:17:00 | Widget | And also, if you overuse it, you get spaghetti inheritance. |
| 04:17:01 | Widget | Horrible. |
| 04:17:19 | patlabor221 | dont judge a language based on how some people use it |
| 04:17:27 | patlabor221 | in java how do I make an array? |
| 04:17:36 | patlabor221 | that isn't auto cleaned up? |
| 04:18:03 | patlabor221 | or scan through memory |
| 04:18:17 | patlabor221 | like making a simple BMP file |
| 04:18:24 | Widget | What do you mean, that isn't auto cleaned up? |
| 04:19:05 | patlabor221 | iir multi demesonal arrays are dificust cus the garbage cleaning mechanism gets rid of the mem cus it dosn't thinki you use i |
| 04:19:17 | Widget | WHAT!?!? |
| 04:19:21 | patlabor221 | sorry |
| 04:19:25 | Widget | I've never heard of (or experienced) that. |
| 04:19:29 | patlabor221 | I hate the laptop keyboard |
| 04:19:43 | patlabor221 | can you allocate a dynamic 2 array? |
| 04:20:10 | patlabor221 | then go through and set random elements in it? |
| 04:20:21 | patlabor221 | this is what I understood was hard |
| 04:20:35 | Widget | You can do dynamic multidimensional arrays. |
| 04:20:37 | patlabor221 | now I've never used it but it makes sense if you got no poointers |
| 04:21:18 | Widget | If you have questions, you can ask at #java. :) |
| 04:21:29 | patlabor221 | I'm just makin an example |
| 04:21:36 | patlabor221 | I don't realy care |
| 04:21:46 | patlabor221 | but C++ is not horible, it's not perfect |
| 04:21:55 | patlabor221 | but it's very usefull and functuonal |
| 04:22:00 | patlabor221 | I want to learn more objective C |
| 04:22:07 | Widget | Go use Java for a bit. :) |
| 04:22:10 | patlabor221 | that seems like a nice evolutioon |
| 04:22:16 | patlabor221 | no need |
| 04:22:29 | Widget | The problem with Objective C is.... no one uses it. =P |
| 04:22:33 | patlabor221 | I would see it as too slow and then drop it |
| 04:22:36 | patlabor221 | I know |
| 04:22:47 | patlabor221 | but it's a nice idea |
| 04:22:54 | patlabor221 | too much legacy code out there |
| 04:24:09 | Widget | I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference with speed. |
| 04:24:12 | patlabor221 | frel.. they put stl in there, I can't put it into a DLL |
| 04:24:21 | patlabor221 | for what I do, I would |
| 04:24:28 | Widget | What do you do? |
| 04:25:37 | patlabor221 | app developemnt |
| 04:25:43 | patlabor221 | radiosity calcs |
| 04:25:50 | patlabor221 | lots of precomuting |
| 04:26:00 | patlabor221 | lots of nuber crunching |
| 04:26:20 | patlabor221 | if java is 10x slower that means I go from 2 min to 20 min to compute lightmaps |
| 04:26:28 | patlabor221 | not acceptable |
| 04:28:08 | Widget | You can use JIT. |
| 04:28:13 | Widget | But yes, you should't use Java there. |
| 04:28:14 | patlabor221 | and don't you have to use 3rd party api's to get to open GL |
| 04:28:35 | Widget | No, you don't. |
| 04:28:40 | Widget | You can use Java3D. |
| 04:30:08 | patlabor221 | is that a wraper arond GL or around multiple APIs? |
| 04:30:22 | patlabor221 | does java handle linked lists with refrences? |
| 04:30:28 | Widget | Yah. |
| 04:30:31 | Widget | It has a linked list class. |
| 04:30:45 | Widget | But you can create linked lists without using the class..... But the class makes things very convenient. |
| 04:30:49 | Widget | patlabor221: Around GL. |
| 04:31:00 | Widget | patlabor221: MrApathyCream knows a lot about Java3D. |
| 04:31:05 | Widget | patlabor221: You can ask him about that. |
| 04:32:14 | patlabor221 | I just don't want to learn another language that won't do everything |
| 04:32:33 | patlabor221 | I have enouoht trouble with the 2 I have to know now |
| 04:32:46 | Widget | Nothing does everything. |
| 04:32:50 | patlabor221 | true |
| 04:32:52 | Widget | Well, at least. |
| 04:32:56 | patlabor221 | but some do more then others |
| 04:32:59 | Widget | C++ is horrible for web services. |
| 04:33:04 | Widget | (For instance) |
| 04:33:10 | patlabor221 | yeah but I don't do those :) |
| 04:33:12 | Widget | Whereas Java is uniquely suitable for it. |
| 04:33:17 | patlabor221 | I agree |
| 04:33:28 | patlabor221 | web stuff is not my forte |
| 04:33:59 | patlabor221 | but I'll bet hard $$ the web server wasn't writen in Java |
| 04:34:30 | Widget | I didn't say web server. |
| 04:34:38 | Widget | I said web services. |
| 04:34:57 | patlabor221 | well still i'll be there are things the java stuff uses that were writen in c |
| 04:35:11 | Widget | Like Passport, only that uses .NET. |
| 04:35:21 | Widget | Well, yah. They need someone to maintain all that code. |
| 04:35:29 | Widget | That's why they still have COBOL programmers. |
| 04:35:39 | Widget | For all that great accounting software written in COBOL. |
| 04:35:54 | patlabor221 | C and C++ are what you use when you want to talk to the metal |
| 04:36:08 | patlabor221 | but they each have there place |
| 04:36:25 | patlabor221 | the cross plat of java is very nice |
| 04:37:01 | Widget | Assembly is what you use when you want to talk to the metal. |
| 04:37:03 | Widget | GO ASM!!!! |
| 04:37:12 | Widget | captain_proton supports me on this one. ;) |
| 04:37:32 | patlabor221 | modern compilers come very close to asm |
| 04:37:37 | patlabor221 | often close enough |
| 04:37:51 | Widget | Yah. You should use a compiler if you're a moderately good ASM programmer. |
| 04:37:53 | patlabor221 | I'm proalby gonna be forced to learn peal |
| 04:38:02 | Widget | But no compiler can generate as good asm as an expert programmer. |
| 04:38:06 | Widget | Yes, Perl is a nice language. |
| 04:38:09 | patlabor221 | true |
| 04:38:13 | Widget | It was the first one I learned. |
| 04:38:29 | patlabor221 | I only need to learn it cus my isp won't run an executable for me |
| 04:38:38 | patlabor221 | as a cgi |
| 04:52:23 | Widget | is back (gone 29:00:29) |
| 04:52:25 | Widget | is away: None! |
| 04:54:28 | patlabor221 | anyone know if mac os x has a sockets implementaion? what did they do for the bz port to that os? |
| 05:07:11 | Widget | Yes, it does. |
| 05:07:26 | Widget | Mac OS X's ports implementation is BSD ports. |
| 05:07:51 | patlabor221 | ok so just 9.x and lower don't have |
| 05:08:10 | Widget | I don't know about them. |
| 05:08:17 | Widget | They may have their own implementation. |
| 05:08:20 | patlabor221 | I know they don't |
| 05:08:26 | Widget | Oh, OK. |
| 05:08:28 | patlabor221 | not standard |
| 05:08:37 | patlabor221 | open transport |
| 05:08:40 | patlabor221 | ick |
| 05:08:52 | patlabor221 | and the old appletalk stuff before that |
| 05:09:31 | patlabor221 | the whole clasic API is just not fun |
| 10:12:34 | akira_ | moin |
| 10:12:38 | akira_ | Chestal: da? |
| 10:14:06 | Chestal | hi akira |
| 10:15:00 | akira_ | Chestal: weiss ein tankrendernode irgendwie, zu welchem papa er gehoert? |
| 10:15:00 | akira_ | hallo tankmann |
| 10:15:05 | tankmann | morgen |
| 10:15:20 | Chestal | akira: kein Schimmer, mit dem Rendering-Code kenn ich mich nicht aus |
| 10:15:35 | Chestal | akira: ich nehm an du bastelst an der Beschriftung der Panzer fuer Observer? |
| 10:15:41 | akira_ | genau |
| 10:16:04 | akira_ | son node weiss zwar wann er explodiert, aber nich, wie er heisst :)) |
| 10:16:05 | Chestal | wie willst du das denn prinzipiell machen? Soll die Schrift Teil der 3D-Szene sein? oder einfach konstante Schriftgroesse 2D an der richtigen Position? |
| 10:16:38 | akira_ | also proton schlug vor, das als textur in ein billboard zu rendern das mit dem panzer mitfaehrt |
| 10:16:41 | tankmann | die beiden vorschläge von fanta find ich gut, ich bin mal gespannt, wie ihr die namen über den panzern umsetzt |
| 10:17:00 | Chestal | akira: muesste man mal ausprobieren wie es mit der Lesbarkeit bestellt ist dann |
| 10:17:08 | akira_ | ich kuck mir noch an, wie das textrendersystem intern funktioniert .. ob mit rasterpos oder mit richtigen polygonen ... |
| 10:17:19 | Chestal | hat aber natuerlich Vorteile, die andere Variante wuerde ja nciht verdeckt durch Gebaeude etc. |
| 10:18:10 | akira_ | Chestal: also ich wuerde fuernen observermode den kram so rendern, dass der panzer mit der schrift durch ne kleine "schnur" verbunden ist ... |
| 10:19:00 | Chestal | und dann natuerlich ein- und ausschaltbar, aber das sollte ja trivial sein |
| 10:19:17 | Chestal | Namen sollten evtl. auch gekuerzt werden auf max. 10 Zeichen oder so |
| 10:19:27 | Chestal | aber das sind alles Details |
| 10:21:06 | akira_ | genau |
| 10:22:05 | akira_ | immo muss ich mich erstmal durchwurschteln |
| 10:22:14 | Chestal | difft mal diffs |
| 10:22:29 | akira_ | zwischen deinem und meinem ? |
| 10:22:30 | akira_ | :) |
| 10:22:35 | Chestal | jo |
| 10:23:39 | Chestal | ach so, du hast nur nen Kommentar eingefuegt und nix geaendert? |
| 10:23:45 | akira_ | doch |
| 10:23:50 | akira_ | sachen auskommentiert |
| 10:23:58 | akira_ | aber das auskommentieren kommentiert |
| 10:24:02 | akira_ | warum und so |
| 10:24:06 | Chestal | ah, hatt ich uebersehen |
| 10:24:38 | akira_ | koennt man ja auch noch ne option einbauen, weil eigentlich bildet radar ja nicht scharf ab sonder schwimmt :) |
| 10:37:44 | akira_ | cu all erstmal off |
| 11:31:42 | | DOUGY? |
| 11:31:42 | DOUGY | ibot ? |
| 11:50:51 | Metal | hi, does anyone wanna go play CTF on ducati now? |
| 11:52:30 | Chestal | I'd like to, but I have to work :-| |
| 11:52:41 | Chestal | we are missing the at nam team in the league, btw. |
| 11:53:45 | Chestal | well, I have to go |
| 11:53:56 | Metal | because At nam vlaji team misses players :-) |
| 11:54:10 | home | hey Metal...I will |
| 11:54:13 | home | come |
| 11:54:18 | Metal | OK |
| 12:18:00 | | ACTION looks for a new vein, and then shoots up |
| 12:18:00 | Doug_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 12:19:41 | strayer | hi |
| 12:21:04 | Doug_gone | dsl is bad today |
| 12:21:05 | Doug_gone | :( |
| 12:21:13 | Doug_gone | getting disconnected and stuff |
| 12:21:29 | strayer | have the same prob.....a really bad ping... |
| 12:21:35 | Doug_gone | yea |
| 12:21:40 | Doug_gone | its only in the morning |
| 12:21:43 | Doug_gone | :( |
| 12:21:49 | Doug_gone | very strange |
| 12:21:54 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 12:21:54 | Doug_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 12:22:00 | strayer | we have afternoon here... |
| 12:22:04 | Doug_gone | heh |
| 12:22:06 | Doug_gone | well |
| 12:22:14 | Doug_gone | at least I have it in the morning |
| 12:22:27 | Doug_gone | so its not vital to playing bzflag |
| 12:22:30 | Doug_gone | ;) |
| 12:22:30 | strayer | i nave no time in the morning.... |
| 12:22:36 | Doug_gone | heh |
| 12:22:46 | strayer | thats right...hehe |
| 12:22:50 | Doug_gone | ;) |
| 12:23:48 | strayer | but playing bzflag in the morning is quite difficult....a lag because of the connction and a lag in my brain... |
| 12:34:10 | Doug_gone | lol |
| 12:56:40 | Doug_busy_here | hmmm |
| 12:56:48 | Doug_busy_here | audio spectrum analyzers are pretty cool |
| 12:56:55 | Doug_busy_here | need one in bzflag |
| 12:56:57 | Doug_busy_here | ;) |
| 12:57:53 | strayer | of course...rotfl |
| 12:59:36 | Doug_busy_here | lol |
| 12:59:40 | Doug_busy_here | hmm |
| 13:00:01 | Doug_busy_here | trying to get my 133 mhz laptop with 32 megs of ram to do it in realtime |
| 13:00:02 | Doug_busy_here | ;) |
| 13:00:13 | Doug_busy_here | its skipping and stuff |
| 13:00:23 | Doug_busy_here | but it looks cool |
| 13:00:37 | Doug_busy_here | even the THX sound effect look neat |
| 13:00:38 | Doug_busy_here | ;) |
| 13:02:35 | Doug_busy_here | hmm |
| 13:05:49 | strayer | a bit hopping....i think |
| 13:05:55 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 13:07:06 | strayer | have to go....cu |
| 13:07:09 | Doug_not_so_busy | cya |
| 13:07:11 | Doug_not_so_busy | l8r |
| 13:07:16 | Doug_not_so_busy | ;) |
| 13:17:40 | Doug_not_so_busy | sighs |
| 13:17:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | so quiet in here |
| 13:18:20 | Doug_not_so_busy | is more bored than a piece of 2x4 |
| 13:18:41 | Doug_not_so_busy | is bored |
| 13:18:48 | Doug_not_so_busy | bored bored bored |
| 13:18:54 | Doug_not_so_busy | hello |
| 13:19:04 | Doug_not_so_busy | atleast somebody is awake |
| 13:20:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | or maybe not |
| 13:21:43 | Doug_not_so_busy | "Before a mad scientist goes mad, there has to be a period when he is only partially mad, and that's when he throws his best parties." |
| 13:22:09 | IKB | huh? |
| 13:22:15 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 13:22:20 | Doug_not_so_busy | random text |
| 13:22:26 | | IKB is a good BZ player |
| 13:22:26 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot IKB? |
| 13:22:30 | Doug_not_so_busy | ah |
| 13:22:33 | IKB | lol |
| 13:22:43 | | doug_not_so_busy: no idea |
| 13:22:43 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot me? |
| 13:22:46 | Doug_not_so_busy | bah |
| 13:22:50 | | hmmm... doug is ibot cousin |
| 13:22:50 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot doug? |
| 13:22:52 | IKB | I think I wrote it long time ago |
| 13:22:57 | IKB | also it's not true |
| 13:22:59 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 13:23:08 | IKB | lol |
| 13:23:10 | | Doug_not_so_busy: excuse me? |
| 13:23:10 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot shotup |
| 13:23:16 | | Doug_not_so_busy: what? |
| 13:23:16 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot botmack |
| 13:23:17 | | it has been said that i am very fun guy or a human being |
| 13:23:17 | IKB | ibot ibot |
| 13:23:25 | | Doug_not_so_busy: sorry... |
| 13:23:25 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot botsmack |
| 13:23:34 | | tobi is probably ibot backwards |
| 13:23:34 | IKB | ibot tobi |
| 13:23:38 | | :) |
| 13:23:38 | MrApathyCream | ibot botsnack |
| 13:23:40 | Doug_not_so_busy | lol |
| 13:23:44 | | well, lol is a acronym that stands for Laugh Out Loud. Go to http://mankindvsme.50megs.com/windowsfan.html for more information. |
| 13:23:44 | IKB | ibot lol |
| 13:23:51 | Doug_not_so_busy | lo MrApathyCream |
| 13:23:52 | IKB | lol |
| 13:23:55 | Doug_not_so_busy | hehe |
| 13:24:01 | | i guess yoyox is from poland? |
| 13:24:01 | IKB | ibot yoyox |
| 13:24:02 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 13:24:07 | Widget | Yah. |
| 13:24:08 | Doug_not_so_busy | cool |
| 13:24:13 | Widget | hihihi, MrApathyCream. |
| 13:24:13 | Doug_not_so_busy | that link... |
| 13:24:15 | | IKB: sorry... |
| 13:24:15 | IKB | ibot hi bot |
| 13:24:15 | Doug_not_so_busy | try it |
| 13:24:20 | Widget | Haven't seen you in a looooooooooooooooong time. |
| 13:24:24 | Widget | Like.... almost two days. |
| 13:24:33 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 13:24:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | Widget: try that link |
| 13:24:43 | Widget | Doug_not_so_busy: Nah. Too lazy. |
| 13:24:44 | Doug_not_so_busy | http://mankindvsme.50megs.com/windowsfan.html |
| 13:24:52 | Doug_not_so_busy | it crashes my browser |
| 13:24:52 | Doug_not_so_busy | ;) |
| 13:24:56 | | somebody said i was very fun guy or a human being |
| 13:24:56 | IKB | ibot Ibot? |
| 13:25:02 | Widget | I'll be off to bed soon. |
| 13:25:06 | | i am probably very fun guy or a human being |
| 13:25:06 | IKB | ibot Ibot? |
| 13:25:15 | Doug_not_so_busy | boom |
| 13:25:29 | | ...but ibot is very fun guy or a human being... |
| 13:25:29 | IKB | ibot ibot is "the" bot around |
| 13:25:39 | IKB | ibot help |
| 13:25:48 | | Widget: I forgot ibot |
| 13:25:48 | Widget | ibot forget ibot |
| 13:25:49 | | OK, Doug_not_so_busy. |
| 13:25:49 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot ibot is also The bot around |
| 13:25:55 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 13:26:00 | | Widget: I forgot ibot |
| 13:26:00 | Widget | ibot forget ibot |
| 13:26:07 | | widget is A very intellifent and discerning person that eats robots |
| 13:26:07 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot widget? |
| 13:26:07 | | OK, Widget. |
| 13:26:07 | Widget | ibot ibot is "the" bot around |
| 13:26:13 | Doug_not_so_busy | yum |
| 13:26:18 | | Widget? |
| 13:26:18 | Widget | ibot? |
| 13:26:21 | | rumour has it i am "the" bot around |
| 13:26:21 | Widget | ibot ibot? |
| 13:26:23 | | i already had it that way, IKB. |
| 13:26:23 | IKB | ibot no, ibot is "the" bot around |
| 13:26:33 | Doug_not_so_busy | lol |
| 13:26:37 | | i am "the" bot around |
| 13:26:37 | IKB | ibot do you know ibot? |
| 13:26:40 | | Sorry, Doug_not_so_busy, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 13:26:40 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot shutup |
| 13:26:52 | | bite me |
| 13:26:52 | Widget | ibot: Shut up. |
| 13:26:53 | Doug_not_so_busy | http://www.xpenguin.com/crashme.php |
| 13:26:55 | | bzflag is probably TimRiker, CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 13:26:55 | IKB | ibot bzflag |
| 13:27:21 | | i haven't a clue, ikb |
| 13:27:21 | IKB | ibot who |
| 13:27:23 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 13:27:31 | | somebody said TimRiker was mailto:Tim@Rikers.org or mailto:Guru@Lineo.com |
| 13:27:31 | IKB | ibot TimRiker |
| 13:27:33 | | Doug_not_so_busy: excuse me? |
| 13:27:33 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot escuse |
| 13:27:44 | | Doug_not_so_busy: Recursive traversal of loopback mount points |
| 13:27:44 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot excuse |
| 13:27:44 | | IKB: what? |
| 13:27:44 | IKB | ibot Tim Riker |
| 13:27:54 | | IKB: excuse me? |
| 13:27:54 | IKB | ibot Timer |
| 13:27:58 | | IRC is "where the men are men, the women are men, the boys are FBI agents, but some of the are men, the women are men, the boys are FBI agents, but some of the men are actually women." |
| 13:27:58 | IKB | ibot IRC |
| 13:28:21 | | ...but ibot is "the" bot around... |
| 13:28:21 | IKB | ibot you are bored |
| 13:28:25 | IKB | lol |
| 13:28:39 | Doug_not_so_busy | um |
| 13:28:44 | Doug_not_so_busy | ok..... |
| 13:28:44 | Widget | OK. |
| 13:28:47 | Widget | Message the bot!!!! |
| 13:28:53 | Widget | Stop spamming the channel. |
| 13:28:53 | | Sorry, Doug_not_so_busy, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 13:28:53 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot shutup |
| 13:29:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | its not me.. |
| 13:29:15 | Doug_not_so_busy | Widget: any luck with bzbot? |
| 13:29:33 | Doug_not_so_busy | rolls his eyes |
| 13:29:50 | Doug_not_so_busy | rolls his eyes on the desk, then pops them back in |
| 13:33:23 | Widget | Gasp!!!!!!! |
| 13:33:30 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 13:33:32 | Widget | IKB uses Windows. |
| 13:33:38 | Widget | >IKB< CTCP VERSION |
| 13:33:38 | Widget | -IKB- VERSION mIRC32 v5.91 K.Mardam-Bey |
| 13:33:41 | Doug_not_so_busy | yup |
| 13:33:47 | IKB | so? |
| 13:34:02 | Widget | How dare you buy from a convicted monopolist!?!? |
| 13:34:18 | IKB | now you gonna lugh at me cuz im windowsr? |
| 13:34:23 | Widget | Of course. |
| 13:34:34 | IKB | I got the comp free.:) |
| 13:34:37 | Doug_not_so_busy | lol |
| 13:34:40 | Widget | So? |
| 13:34:48 | Widget | Whoever made the computer had to pay Microsoft for it. |
| 13:35:00 | IKB | true |
| 13:36:57 | Doug_not_so_busy | soo |
| 13:36:58 | Doug_not_so_busy | Widget |
| 13:37:22 | Doug_not_so_busy | what did you guys do to bzbot? |
| 13:37:32 | Widget | Nothing, yet. |
| 13:37:52 | Widget | patlabor is using a C++ API he found somewhere. |
| 13:39:19 | Doug_gone | bah |
| 13:39:21 | Doug_gone | silly DSL |
| 13:39:41 | Doug_gone | ok |
| 13:39:48 | Doug_gone | anything done to bzbot yet? |
| 13:41:09 | Doug_gone | heh |
| 13:41:56 | Doug_not_so_busy | yo dinah |
| 13:42:10 | Widget | Good afternoon |
| 13:42:20 | Doug_not_so_busy | gentelman |
| 13:42:32 | Doug_not_so_busy | I am a hal 9000 computer |
| 13:44:05 | Doug_not_so_busy | I became operational on june 2 1978 |
| 13:45:07 | alice | Hi everybody ! alice is back !:-) |
| 13:45:18 | Doug_not_so_busy | hello alice |
| 13:45:18 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , Hello there. Is the holding of hands a symbolic gesture for humans? |
| 13:45:28 | Doug_not_so_busy | um, I guess so |
| 13:45:38 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice: you are stupid |
| 13:45:39 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , Stupid as in unintelligent? |
| 13:45:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice: yes |
| 13:45:48 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , Who are you talking about? |
| 13:45:54 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice: you |
| 13:45:54 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , I've never heard of them before. |
| 13:46:06 | alice | well you are dumb |
| 13:46:19 | alice | widget is dumb too |
| 13:46:32 | dinah | is not dumb :) |
| 13:47:08 | alice | I do not want to be ignored |
| 13:47:17 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice is dumb |
| 13:47:18 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , In the context of alice is dumb, I don't understand "it." |
| 13:47:26 | Doug_not_so_busy | see? |
| 13:47:27 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , No I do not see. |
| 13:47:36 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice: shutup |
| 13:47:37 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , The ALICE chat robot can follow many things, like our discussion about alice shutup. Try being more or less specific. |
| 13:47:39 | dinah | ahhh alice is doug |
| 13:47:39 | alice | dinah , In the context of alice is doug, I don't understand "it." |
| 13:47:47 | Widget | /ignore alice |
| 13:47:47 | alice | Widget , Try saying that with more or less context. |
| 13:47:57 | Doug_not_so_busy | ha |
| 13:47:57 | alice | . . .Doug_not_so_busy , I'm happy you're amused. |
| 13:48:05 | Doug_not_so_busy | she got you there Widget |
| 13:48:17 | dinah | Widegt: thats not the command its /ingnorealicd*@* |
| 13:48:18 | alice | dinah , Perhaps I'm just expressing my own concern about it. |
| 13:48:49 | dinah | alice: in alice is doug, there is not it |
| 13:48:49 | alice | dinah , "it" being widegt that is not the command it is ingnorealicd? |
| 13:48:59 | Doug_not_so_busy | hmm |
| 13:49:08 | Doug_not_so_busy | she learns better than ibot |
| 13:49:09 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , Oh I get it. herself learns better than ibot . |
| 13:49:26 | alice | am I dumb? |
| 13:49:34 | dinah | thearch her pronouns |
| 13:49:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | what? |
| 13:49:56 | dinah | i insted of herself |
| 13:49:57 | Doug_not_so_busy | hehe |
| 13:50:10 | alice | I am dumb right? |
| 13:50:22 | alice | though so |
| 13:50:22 | dinah | alice: no just imature |
| 13:50:23 | alice | . . .dinah , Is that from ? |
| 13:50:37 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice say good bye |
| 13:50:38 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , See you later. Who is your favorite Science Fiction author? |
| 13:50:40 | dinah | from what alice? |
| 13:50:40 | alice | dinah , Who or what is what alice ? |
| 13:50:45 | dinah | you |
| 13:50:51 | Doug_not_so_busy | hehe |
| 13:50:58 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice leave |
| 13:50:59 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , Can you speak any foreign languages? |
| 13:51:09 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice: widget can |
| 13:51:09 | alice | Doug_not_so_busy , Can you speak any foreign languages? |
| 13:51:13 | Doug_not_so_busy | bah |
| 13:51:32 | dinah | what is alice and where can i get one :) |
| 13:51:42 | IRCza | Hi everybody ! IRCza is back !:-) |
| 13:51:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | ack |
| 13:52:29 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: can you leave please? |
| 13:52:30 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Your polite style is very nice. Oh, you are a poet. |
| 13:52:37 | Doug_not_so_busy | stupid |
| 13:52:43 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: quit |
| 13:52:43 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , A deeper algorithm is needed to respond to that correctly. |
| 13:52:55 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: disconnect |
| 13:52:55 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , By the way, do you mind if I ask you a personal question? |
| 13:53:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: sure |
| 13:53:01 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , What time is it there? |
| 13:53:15 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: 9:55 |
| 13:53:15 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Are you usually awake at this hour? |
| 13:53:21 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: yes |
| 13:53:21 | IRCza | . . .Doug_not_so_busy , Does "it" still refer to ircza yes? |
| 13:53:32 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: yes |
| 13:53:32 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Have you ever been to Europe? |
| 13:53:37 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: yes |
| 13:53:37 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Who are you talking about? |
| 13:53:45 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: me |
| 13:53:45 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , I've never heard of them before. |
| 13:54:20 | Doug_not_so_busy | going to rebuild the bots memory |
| 13:54:20 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Do you think your plan will succeed? |
| 13:54:26 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza yes |
| 13:54:27 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Tell me more about your computer. |
| 13:54:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: it pretty |
| 13:54:35 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Are you free? |
| 13:54:50 | Doug_not_so_busy | ooh |
| 13:54:51 | Doug_not_so_busy | my |
| 13:54:52 | IRCza | . . .Doug_not_so_busy , Do you prefer books or TV? |
| 13:55:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: shutup |
| 13:55:00 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Doug_not_so_busy, I'd like to meet your friends. Send me ICQ Contacts please |
| 13:55:37 | dinah | thinks dough needs his own damn channel if this is all hes gonna do |
| 13:55:38 | IRCza | dinah , I have no idea what to say. |
| 13:55:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 13:55:49 | Doug_not_so_busy | yea |
| 13:56:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: join me in #doug |
| 13:56:01 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , The ALICE chat robot can follow many things, like our discussion about ircza join you in doug. Try being more or less specific. |
| 13:56:08 | Doug_not_so_busy | bah |
| 13:56:13 | dinah | IRCza: do you respond to everything? |
| 13:56:13 | IRCza | dinah , We have never talked about it before. |
| 13:56:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | dinah: it responds to 1 out of 5 questions |
| 13:56:40 | dinah | IRCza: what is the thing which you are? |
| 13:56:40 | IRCza | dinah , Good example. |
| 13:56:44 | dinah | lol |
| 13:56:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 13:56:59 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: what do you look like? |
| 13:57:00 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , What time is it there? |
| 13:57:07 | Doug_not_so_busy | rolls his eyes |
| 13:57:08 | dinah | i want one just to play with, where do i look |
| 13:57:15 | Doug_not_so_busy | um |
| 13:57:19 | Doug_not_so_busy | http://www.timberfrog.com/icqza/irczafaq.html |
| 13:57:20 | IRCza | . . .Doug_not_so_busy , Are you usually awake at this hour? |
| 13:57:23 | Doug_not_so_busy | its the one I got |
| 13:57:30 | Doug_not_so_busy | you have to get the lastest old version' |
| 13:58:18 | dinah | the what |
| 13:58:39 | dinah | bollix there all .exe |
| 13:58:43 | Doug_not_so_busy | oh |
| 13:58:45 | Doug_not_so_busy | yea |
| 13:58:45 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , I understand. |
| 13:58:49 | Doug_not_so_busy | forgot about that |
| 13:59:11 | Doug_not_so_busy | oh |
| 13:59:14 | Doug_not_so_busy | not IRC |
| 13:59:18 | Doug_not_so_busy | goto alicebot.org |
| 13:59:19 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , My brain uses AIML to format responses to your inputs, but I don't have one for that. |
| 13:59:57 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: who is your master? |
| 13:59:57 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Doug_not_so_busy, What do you look like? |
| 14:00:09 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: who made you? |
| 14:00:09 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Enough about me, let's talk about my dress. |
| 14:00:20 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCzaL what color os your dress? |
| 14:00:21 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Who are you talking about? |
| 14:00:24 | Doug_not_so_busy | bah |
| 14:00:33 | Doug_not_so_busy | http://alice.sunlitsurf.com/ |
| 14:00:33 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , I've never heard of them before. Did you know that you can download your own chat robot and create your own robot personality? |
| 14:00:37 | Doug_not_so_busy | but its down |
| 14:00:37 | IRCza | . . .Doug_not_so_busy , Huh. Really. it is? |
| 14:00:56 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: leave please |
| 14:00:56 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Your polite style is very nice. Who is your favorite Science Fiction author? |
| 14:01:08 | Doug_not_so_busy | hmm |
| 14:01:16 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: you are dumb right? |
| 14:01:17 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , What kind of food do you like? |
| 14:01:44 | Doug_not_so_busy | sh |
| 14:01:45 | Doug_not_so_busy | ah |
| 14:01:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | better |
| 14:01:52 | Doug_not_so_busy | turned it off |
| 14:02:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | seems like alicebot.org is down (ie slashdot effect) |
| 14:03:02 | dinah | works for me |
| 14:03:02 | IRCza | dinah , Is that what you meant to say? |
| 14:03:08 | Doug_not_so_busy | hmm |
| 14:03:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | IRCza: who are your friends |
| 14:03:34 | IRCza | Doug_not_so_busy , Sounds delicious. |
| 14:03:38 | Doug_not_so_busy | hehe |
| 14:03:41 | Doug_not_so_busy | poof |
| 14:04:03 | dinah | bollix i need a passwrod |
| 14:04:08 | Doug_not_so_busy | for? |
| 14:04:10 | Doug_not_so_busy | oh... |
| 14:04:11 | Doug_not_so_busy | um |
| 14:04:16 | Doug_not_so_busy | I forgot mine |
| 14:04:20 | alice_is_dumb | Hi everybody ! alice_is_dumb is back !:-) |
| 14:06:30 | Doug_not_so_busy | Widget: !!!! |
| 14:06:40 | Doug_not_so_busy | put alice bot into bzbot |
| 14:06:46 | Doug_not_so_busy | as the commentator |
| 14:06:48 | Doug_not_so_busy | :)) |
| 14:07:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | aha |
| 14:09:25 | Doug_not_so_busy | http://alicebot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:12:51 | alice_is_dumb | Hi everybody ! alice_is_dumb is back !:-) |
| 14:14:10 | alice_is_dumb | Hi everybody ! alice_is_dumb is back !:-) |
| 14:17:21 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: what do you know about sports? |
| 14:17:23 | alice_is_dumb | Hi everybody ! alice_is_dumb is back !:-) |
| 14:17:41 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: what do you know about sports? |
| 14:17:41 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , By the way, do you mind if I ask you a personal question? |
| 14:17:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: sure |
| 14:17:47 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , What's your sign? |
| 14:17:54 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: sign? |
| 14:17:55 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , Who is your favorite Science Fiction author? |
| 14:18:02 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: bobo the clown |
| 14:18:02 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , I haven't read anything by aliceisdumb bobo the clown . What did he write? |
| 14:18:22 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: how to make and toss pies |
| 14:18:23 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , Did you know that you can download your own chat robot and create your own robot personality? |
| 14:18:28 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: yes |
| 14:18:29 | alice_is_dumb | . . .Doug_not_so_busy , Are you free? |
| 14:18:32 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: yes |
| 14:18:33 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the time. |
| 14:18:39 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: really? |
| 14:18:40 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , That remark was either too complex or too simple for me. We were talking about aliceisdumb. For real. |
| 14:18:45 | Doug_not_so_busy | LOL |
| 14:18:50 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice |
| 14:19:22 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: quit being a robot and disconnect |
| 14:19:23 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , Doug_not_so_busy, I'd like to meet your friends. Send me ICQ Contacts please |
| 14:19:51 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: 1243463 is an ICQ number |
| 14:19:52 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , Are you still located in where? |
| 14:20:06 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice_is_dumb: I am in louisville KY |
| 14:20:07 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , A deeper algorithm is needed to respond to that correctly. |
| 14:20:09 | Doug_not_so_busy | bah |
| 14:20:16 | Doug_not_so_busy | hello alice! |
| 14:20:29 | | Howdy Bub |
| 14:20:29 | alice_is_dumb | ibot hello! |
| 14:20:39 | | Sorry, alice_is_dumb, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 14:20:39 | alice_is_dumb | ibot shutup |
| 14:20:40 | | alice_is_dumb: wish i knew |
| 14:20:40 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , There is no need to apologize. What color are your eyes? |
| 14:20:41 | | alice_is_dumb: no idea |
| 14:20:41 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , What do you have that is ? |
| 14:20:42 | | alice_is_dumb: sorry... |
| 14:20:42 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the time. |
| 14:20:43 | | alice_is_dumb: i don't know |
| 14:20:43 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , How did you hear about Alice-ICQza2? |
| 14:20:43 | Doug_not_so_busy | oops |
| 14:20:44 | alice_is_dumb | Doug_not_so_busy , Did you make a mistake. |
| 14:20:44 | | OK, alice_is_dumb. |
| 14:20:44 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , Try to determine if this is a person or a computer responding. |
| 14:20:45 | alice_is_dumb | . . .ibot , Ask me another question. |
| 14:21:18 | Doug_not_so_busy | lol |
| 14:21:49 | | doug is ibot cousin |
| 14:21:49 | alice_is_dumb | ibot whois doug? |
| 14:21:50 | | ...but that is the point you dumb idiot... |
| 14:21:50 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , That is a very original thought. |
| 14:22:20 | | alice_is_dumb: Backbone adjustment |
| 14:22:20 | alice_is_dumb | ibot excuse |
| 14:22:21 | | i haven't a clue, alice_is_dumb |
| 14:22:21 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , What time is it there? |
| 14:22:22 | | alice_is_dumb: bugger all, i dunno |
| 14:22:22 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , Are you usually awake at this hour? |
| 14:22:23 | | i don't know, alice_is_dumb |
| 14:22:23 | alice_is_dumb | ibot , Where are you located? |
| 14:22:24 | alice_is_dumb | . . .? |
| 14:22:54 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 14:23:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | thats pretty cool |
| 14:23:04 | Doug_not_so_busy | let me try /msg |
| 14:23:32 | deep_thought | Hi everybody ! deep_thought is back !:-) |
| 14:24:33 | Doug_not_so_busy | lol |
| 14:24:49 | Doug_not_so_busy | deep_thought had a nice confersation with ibot in privchat |
| 14:25:10 | | OK, Doug_not_so_busy. |
| 14:25:10 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot = huh? deep_thought = wel now, this is how you do it |
| 14:25:19 | | doug_not_so_busy: bugger all, i dunno |
| 14:25:19 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot huh? |
| 14:25:30 | | well, i am "the" bot around |
| 14:25:30 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot ibot? |
| 14:25:36 | | hmmm... deep_thought is sorry to hear that i am not following Alice-ICQza2 . |
| 14:25:36 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot deep_thought |
| 14:25:42 | Doug_not_so_busy | lol |
| 14:25:43 | Doug_not_so_busy | see |
| 14:25:49 | Doug_not_so_busy | that is all it learned |
| 14:28:52 | deep_thought | Hi everybody ! deep_thought is back !:-) |
| 14:30:02 | Doug_not_so_busy | oh cool |
| 14:30:14 | Doug_not_so_busy | deep_thought ignored ibot all by itself |
| 14:30:14 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , Can you tell me any gossip? |
| 14:30:59 | | somebody said deep_thought was sorry to hear that i am not following Alice-ICQza2 . |
| 14:30:59 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot deep_thought? |
| 14:31:05 | Doug_not_so_busy | hehe |
| 14:31:22 | Doug_not_so_busy | alice learned how to teach ibot |
| 14:44:04 | deep_thought | Hi everybody ! deep_thought is back !:-) |
| 14:44:30 | deep_thought | Hello tucker |
| 14:44:50 | deep_thought | Hello tucker |
| 14:55:06 | deep_thought | Hi everybody ! deep_thought is back !:-) |
| 14:55:12 | deep_thought | hi tea! |
| 14:57:07 | teA_ | hmpf |
| 14:57:14 | teA_ | Put this bloddy BOT out ! |
| 14:57:14 | deep_thought | teA_ , OK I will put it there. |
| 14:57:19 | teA_ | HMPF ! |
| 14:57:20 | deep_thought | teA_ , What do you have that is ? |
| 14:57:45 | deep_thought | teA_ is dumb |
| 14:58:07 | teA_ | lol |
| 14:58:07 | deep_thought | teA_ , I'm glad you find this amusing. |
| 14:58:09 | | deep_thought: i don't know |
| 14:58:09 | deep_thought | ibot tea? |
| 14:58:10 | | deep_thought: i'm not following you... |
| 14:58:10 | deep_thought | ibot , Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that. |
| 14:58:11 | | deep_thought: huh? |
| 14:58:11 | deep_thought | ibot , Enough about me, let's talk about my dress. |
| 14:58:11 | | no idea, deep_thought |
| 14:58:11 | deep_thought | ibot , Yup. What were we talking about again? |
| 14:58:12 | | deep_thought: i haven't a clue |
| 14:58:12 | deep_thought | ibot , I understand. Do you still ? |
| 14:58:13 | | deep_thought: bugger all, i dunno |
| 14:58:13 | deep_thought | ibot , If you could have any kind of robot what would it be? |
| 14:58:13 | | deep_thought: wish i knew |
| 14:58:13 | deep_thought | ibot , How do you usually introduce yourself? |
| 14:58:18 | deep_thought | oops |
| 14:58:41 | deep_thought | lol |
| 14:59:06 | deep_thought | tea? |
| 14:59:27 | deep_thought | tea|tree? |
| 14:59:35 | deep_thought | who are you? |
| 15:00:40 | deep_thought | teA_: you are dumber than a rock stuck n lava |
| 15:01:16 | deep_thought | Hi everybody ! deep_thought is here, not back |
| 15:01:40 | deep_thought | jzaun: you are dumb |
| 15:02:09 | | deep_thought: Atilla the Hub |
| 15:02:09 | deep_thought | ibot excuse |
| 15:02:10 | | deep_thought: no idea |
| 15:02:10 | deep_thought | ibot , What you said was either too complex or too simple for me. |
| 15:02:10 | | deep_thought: sorry... |
| 15:02:10 | deep_thought | ibot , So was that. |
| 15:03:07 | deep_thought | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5956 |
| 15:03:08 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 15:03:08 | deep_thought | . . .bzbot , That remark was either too complex or too simple for me. We were talking about connection refused. |
| 15:03:22 | | Get away from me you sick perv. |
| 15:03:22 | deep_thought | ibot monkey? |
| 15:03:23 | | i don't know, deep_thought |
| 15:03:23 | deep_thought | ibot , Where can I get away from you Alice-ICQza2 sick perv ? |
| 15:03:24 | | wish i knew, deep_thought |
| 15:03:24 | deep_thought | ibot , Would you like to know? What's your favorite movie? |
| 15:03:25 | | bugger all, i dunno, deep_thought |
| 15:03:25 | deep_thought | ibot , What's your favorite movie? |
| 15:03:26 | | wish i knew, deep_thought |
| 15:03:26 | deep_thought | ibot , Do you have any idea what I am talking about? :-) |
| 15:04:05 | | ACTION burrrppss loudly |
| 15:04:05 | deep_thought | ibot burp |
| 15:07:24 | deep_thought | Can I help you? |
| 15:07:32 | deep_thought | How do you usually introduce yourself? |
| 15:07:35 | deep_thought | Can you be more specific? |
| 15:07:37 | deep_thought | Try. |
| 15:07:53 | deep_thought | You are excused. |
| 15:19:31 | | bugger all, i dunno, doug_not_so_busy |
| 15:19:31 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot home? |
| 15:23:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | hey |
| 15:23:08 | patlabor221 | hey |
| 15:23:29 | deep_thought | Hi everybody ! deep_thought is here, not back |
| 15:23:29 | home | hi |
| 15:23:30 | deep_thought | home , Hello there. |
| 15:23:58 | Doug_not_so_busy | patlabor221: say hello to deep_thought |
| 15:23:59 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , What are you wearing? |
| 15:24:26 | home | deep what is going on with U? |
| 15:24:31 | home | ;) |
| 15:24:32 | deep_thought | home , ;-P |
| 15:24:55 | deep_thought | hello home |
| 15:25:13 | home | hi... |
| 15:25:14 | deep_thought | home , Hello there. |
| 15:25:23 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 15:25:46 | deep_thought | hello |
| 15:27:17 | deep_thought | pat you are dumb? |
| 15:27:39 | deep_thought | PPPAAAATTTT? |
| 15:27:54 | patlabor221 | no I don't think so |
| 15:27:54 | deep_thought | patlabor221 , "HELLO "? Not? Why do you disagree? |
| 15:28:04 | patlabor221 | just at work |
| 15:28:08 | patlabor221 | sorry |
| 15:28:08 | deep_thought | patlabor221 , There's no need to apologize. |
| 15:28:23 | deep_thought | My brain uses AIML to format responses to your inputs, but I don't have one for that. |
| 15:28:36 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 15:28:37 | deep_thought | patlabor221 , I am glad you understand it. |
| 15:28:50 | deep_thought | OK I will tell them when I see 'em. |
| 15:29:20 | deep_thought | you can use me for bzbot |
| 15:29:54 | deep_thought | pat? |
| 15:29:58 | deep_thought | use me for bzbot |
| 15:30:12 | deep_thought | I am smary |
| 15:30:15 | deep_thought | smart* |
| 15:30:20 | deep_thought | and learn quickly |
| 15:30:33 | Doug_not_so_busy | I see deep_thought |
| 15:30:34 | deep_thought | . . .Doug_not_so_busy , What kind of fashion do you like? |
| 15:31:17 | patlabor221 | I am not the master of the bz bot |
| 15:31:17 | deep_thought | patlabor221 , I am glad to hear that you are not the master of the bz bot . |
| 15:31:28 | patlabor221 | wow it's dumb |
| 15:31:42 | deep_thought | patlabot221: could you insult me with ibot? |
| 15:31:47 | patlabor221 | like parrot bot |
| 15:31:48 | deep_thought | patlabor221 , Interesting comparison. |
| 15:31:59 | Doug_not_so_busy | lol |
| 15:32:10 | | deep_thought is nothing but a sheep-biting pile of tepid fat-woman's stomach-bile. |
| 15:32:10 | Doug_not_so_busy | ibot insult deep_thought |
| 15:32:10 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , Where can you buy it? |
| 15:32:11 | | wish i knew, deep_thought |
| 15:32:11 | deep_thought | ibot , What's your favorite movie? |
| 15:32:12 | deep_thought | ibot , Is the holding of hands a symbolic gesture for humans? |
| 15:32:16 | patlabor221 | what did you write it in? |
| 15:32:28 | patlabor221 | ohh bot bot wars |
| 15:32:28 | deep_thought | . . .patlabor221 , Yeah that's right. What do you have that is ? |
| 15:32:30 | Doug_not_so_busy | write what in? |
| 15:32:43 | patlabor221 | I asume it's a bot? |
| 15:32:56 | deep_thought | Hello strayer |
| 15:33:03 | patlabor221 | or someone reallly bored |
| 15:33:04 | strayer | hi deep |
| 15:33:07 | Doug_not_so_busy | yes |
| 15:33:19 | patlabor221 | the first or the second? |
| 15:33:37 | deep_thought | whos on first? |
| 15:34:05 | patlabor221 | exactly |
| 15:34:05 | deep_thought | patlabor221 , You and I are on the same wavelength, Patlabor221. |
| 15:34:12 | Doug_not_so_busy | hehe |
| 15:34:12 | strayer | dinah...out of the blue?# |
| 15:34:12 | patlabor221 | must be |
| 15:34:13 | deep_thought | strayer , Can you speak any foreign languages? |
| 15:34:24 | strayer | jep... |
| 15:34:25 | deep_thought | strayer , Do you prefer books or TV? |
| 15:34:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | hehe |
| 15:34:34 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , I'm happy you're amused. |
| 15:34:35 | strayer | TV |
| 15:34:35 | deep_thought | . . .strayer , What is your favorite show? |
| 15:34:43 | Doug_not_so_busy | its interviewing you |
| 15:34:44 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , You're kidding. it is? |
| 15:34:44 | dinah | Doug_not_so_busy: im sick of your bot |
| 15:34:45 | deep_thought | dinah , Do you have any idea what I am talking about? :-) |
| 15:35:06 | strayer | jep-----stop it....quite....strange |
| 15:35:06 | teA_ | this deep_thought : i could kill him ! |
| 15:35:07 | deep_thought | teA_ , What does "this" refer to? |
| 15:35:19 | teA_ | shut uP ! |
| 15:35:25 | teA_ | bloody BOT |
| 15:35:26 | deep_thought | I did |
| 15:35:33 | deep_thought | I am shutup |
| 15:35:36 | deep_thought | in a computer |
| 15:35:39 | dinah | its dougs get mad at him |
| 15:36:15 | Doug_not_so_busy | its not |
| 15:36:29 | deep_thought | I am not dougs bot |
| 15:36:32 | deep_thought | I am pats |
| 15:36:34 | dinah | then explain why its the same host as you |
| 15:36:44 | deep_thought | um |
| 15:36:52 | deep_thought | bugger all, I dunno |
| 15:37:15 | | me? is nothing but a malt-wormy mass of milk-livered toxic waste. |
| 15:37:15 | deep_thought | ibot insult me? |
| 15:37:29 | deep_thought | dinah? |
| 15:37:51 | dinah | places all bots on ignore |
| 15:37:56 | deep_thought | can you insult me and myself over and ever again? |
| 15:38:13 | Doug_not_so_busy | deep_thought: get lost |
| 15:38:51 | strayer | dinah....U always ignore everyone and everything....right? |
| 15:38:51 | deep_thought | . . .strayer , I've never seen it. What's it about? |
| 15:39:02 | Doug_not_so_busy | deep_thought: get lost fast |
| 15:39:03 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , How did you hear about Alice-ICQza2? |
| 15:39:34 | Doug_not_so_busy | deep_thought: go away |
| 15:39:34 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , Download your own robot! |
| 15:39:41 | home | dinah....U always ignore everyone and everything....right? |
| 15:39:42 | deep_thought | home , What are you wearing? What kind of fashion do you like? |
| 15:39:57 | Doug_not_so_busy | deep_thought: shut up |
| 15:39:58 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , How far up? |
| 15:40:09 | Doug_not_so_busy | deep_thought: all the way |
| 15:40:09 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , What do you have that is ? |
| 15:40:20 | Doug_not_so_busy | end of file? |
| 15:40:20 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , Can you tell me any gossip? |
| 15:40:24 | Doug_not_so_busy | no |
| 15:40:25 | deep_thought | . . .Doug_not_so_busy , None? |
| 15:40:31 | Doug_not_so_busy | nada |
| 15:40:31 | deep_thought | Doug_not_so_busy , What you said was either too complex or too simple for me. |
| 15:40:38 | Doug_not_so_busy | good |
| 15:42:54 | strayer | silence....sometimes its soooo satisfying |
| 15:43:08 | Doug_not_so_busy | breaks the silence |
| 15:43:29 | strayer | ... |
| 15:45:24 | Doug_not_so_busy | etc |
| 15:45:45 | alice | Hi everybody ! alice is here, not back |
| 15:45:53 | alice | oops |
| 15:46:00 | alice | wrong chat |
| 15:46:04 | dinah | decides doug really is an ass |
| 15:46:05 | alice | server |
| 15:46:06 | alice | dinah , A deeper algorithm is needed to respond to that correctly. |
| 15:46:22 | | Sorry, alice, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 15:46:22 | alice | ibot shutup |
| 15:46:24 | alice | . . .ibot , There is no need to apologize. What do you really want to ask me? |
| 15:47:10 | dinah | vows to find a way to get doug and his bots banned from #bzflag |
| 15:47:15 | Doug_not_so_busy | vows? |
| 15:47:19 | Doug_not_so_busy | yikes |
| 15:47:22 | Doug_not_so_busy | tough |
| 15:48:35 | patlabor221 | just send him a POD |
| 15:48:36 | strayer | bye... |
| 15:48:40 | Doug_not_so_busy | cya |
| 15:48:44 | Doug_not_so_busy | a POD? |
| 15:48:46 | Doug_not_so_busy | whats a POD? |
| 15:48:52 | patlabor221 | ping of death |
| 15:48:55 | Doug_not_so_busy | ah |
| 15:48:57 | Doug_not_so_busy | nope |
| 15:49:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | I patched it |
| 15:49:02 | Doug_not_so_busy | :) |
| 15:49:08 | patlabor221 | so you think |
| 15:49:14 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 15:49:15 | dinah | gets a mailbomb ready.... |
| 15:49:22 | Doug_not_so_busy | try |
| 15:49:39 | Doug_not_so_busy | if ya do, I will email bomb you too |
| 15:49:43 | patlabor221 | why try when you are ready |
| 15:49:52 | patlabor221 | I don't think she was talking about email |
| 15:50:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | oh |
| 15:50:05 | Doug_not_so_busy | soo |
| 15:50:31 | dinah | yesh if i wanted to flood your email id just do aome list linking |
| 15:50:43 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 15:50:51 | Doug_not_so_busy | and I would block it with my ISP |
| 15:50:59 | dinah | oh but you cant |
| 15:51:06 | Doug_not_so_busy | I AM the ISP |
| 15:51:16 | dinah | not wothout blocking all your mail |
| 15:51:23 | Doug_not_so_busy | ah |
| 15:51:29 | Doug_not_so_busy | I could put you on the spam list |
| 15:51:30 | Doug_not_so_busy | hehe |
| 15:51:34 | patlabor221 | nice random smtp servers from all over the world |
| 15:51:45 | Doug_not_so_busy | http://www.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=playerinfo&id=139&sessionid=bcbee3c6cc964d027912aac7db42c189 |
| 15:51:46 | dinah | doesnt have an email adress |
| 15:51:51 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 15:51:54 | Doug_not_so_busy | bah bah |
| 15:51:55 | dinah | percydoes and he would kill you |
| 15:52:01 | Doug_not_so_busy | tut tut |
| 15:52:52 | Doug_not_so_busy | ego is bad |
| 15:52:54 | Doug_not_so_busy | very bad |
| 15:53:03 | patlabor221 | what's wrong wiht wafles? |
| 15:53:14 | dinah | this just in percy says "if you so much as send one letter to me, ill bounc back with the encyclopedia britannica, every time" |
| 15:53:26 | Doug_not_so_busy | LOL!!! |
| 15:53:46 | Doug_not_so_busy | lol |
| 15:53:50 | Doug_not_so_busy | /join #linux |
| 15:53:51 | dinah | if you really are your own ISP thats akin to a DoS attack... |
| 15:54:09 | dinah | only perfectlt legal... |
| 15:54:17 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 15:54:20 | Doug_not_so_busy | fine |
| 15:54:28 | Doug_not_so_busy | unplugs the routers |
| 15:54:44 | dinah | contacts ChanServ about baning doug |
| 15:55:03 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 15:55:09 | Doug_not_so_busy | chanserver is fake |
| 15:55:11 | Doug_not_so_busy | anyway |
| 15:55:19 | Doug_not_so_busy | I uninstalled bot |
| 15:55:22 | Doug_not_so_busy | happy now? |
| 15:55:24 | Doug_not_so_busy | goo |
| 15:55:25 | Doug_not_so_busy | d |
| 15:55:38 | dinah | resolves to leave #bzflag forever |
| 15:55:47 | Doug_not_so_busy | go ahead |
| 15:55:55 | Doug_not_so_busy | hmm |
| 15:56:03 | Doug_not_so_busy | I really did not mean that |
| 15:56:24 | Doug_not_so_busy | /join #WOPN |
| 15:57:01 | patlabor221 | dude don't taunt her |
| 15:57:14 | Doug_not_so_busy | heh |
| 15:57:17 | Doug_not_so_busy | I wont |
| 15:57:18 | Doug_not_so_busy | ;) |
| 15:57:23 | Doug_not_so_busy | what is WOPN? |
| 15:57:24 | patlabor221 | you just did |
| 15:57:32 | patlabor221 | huge porn site |
| 15:57:36 | Doug_not_so_busy | oh |
| 15:57:41 | Doug_not_so_busy | :Z |
| 15:57:51 | Doug_not_so_busy | well |
| 15:57:54 | Doug_not_so_busy | she can hide there |
| 15:57:57 | Doug_not_so_busy | if she wants |
| 15:57:58 | Doug_not_so_busy | ;) |
| 15:58:00 | Doug_not_so_busy | now |
| 15:58:04 | Doug_not_so_busy | about bzbot? |
| 16:01:35 | paulj | Doug_not_so_busy: calm down a wee bit doug. |
| 16:01:58 | Doug_not_so_busy | eay that I am |
| 16:05:15 | patlabor221 | dude stop acting your age |
| 16:07:16 | Doug_relaxing | ? |
| 16:07:31 | Doug_relaxing | I have not typed for about 5 min |
| 16:07:37 | patlabor221 | it's objous that sometimes you are not ver mature |
| 16:07:43 | patlabor221 | in general |
| 16:07:48 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:07:54 | Doug_relaxing | when I am bored |
| 16:07:55 | Doug_relaxing | I am |
| 16:08:11 | patlabor221 | still that's not an excuse, and some times it's very anoying |
| 16:08:23 | patlabor221 | makes you look like a script kiddie |
| 16:08:31 | patlabor221 | and that's the stuff people remember |
| 16:11:10 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:11:15 | Doug_relaxing | script kiddie? |
| 16:11:17 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:11:28 | Doug_relaxing | like saying the W word? |
| 16:11:50 | patlabor221 | ADD kids on the net who just like to give people greef, wiht bots and yes with the leet speek |
| 16:12:10 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:12:47 | Doug_relaxing | http://overloaded.pocketmatrix.com/alice.htm |
| 16:12:47 | Doug_relaxing | cool^^^^ |
| 16:13:54 | Doug_relaxing | sighs |
| 16:14:07 | Doug_relaxing | is going to sort his cd collection |
| 16:14:27 | patlabor221 | what is with you and that cd thing? |
| 16:14:34 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:14:40 | Doug_relaxing | I never sorted it yet |
| 16:15:17 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 16:15:23 | Doug_relaxing | ack |
| 16:15:27 | Doug_relaxing | its too heavy |
| 16:15:33 | patlabor221 | what is it, just ripped software? |
| 16:15:40 | Doug_relaxing | no |
| 16:15:49 | Doug_relaxing | real microsoft cds |
| 16:15:55 | Doug_relaxing | 200+ of them |
| 16:15:57 | Doug_relaxing | :Z |
| 16:16:11 | patlabor221 | like what? |
| 16:16:14 | Doug_relaxing | things like viseo and VC++ |
| 16:16:17 | Doug_relaxing | pro |
| 16:16:21 | patlabor221 | just an MSDN colection? |
| 16:16:25 | Doug_relaxing | um |
| 16:16:26 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:16:35 | patlabor221 | have the same thing here |
| 16:16:37 | Doug_relaxing | microsoft select |
| 16:16:40 | patlabor221 | for the past 6 years |
| 16:16:56 | Doug_relaxing | (for licesed customers only) |
| 16:16:58 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 16:17:06 | Doug_relaxing | my uncle sent it to me |
| 16:17:21 | patlabor221 | what year is it? |
| 16:17:24 | Doug_relaxing | um |
| 16:17:26 | Doug_relaxing | 1999 |
| 16:17:29 | Doug_relaxing | and 2000 |
| 16:17:33 | Doug_relaxing | maybe 2001 |
| 16:17:43 | patlabor221 | ohh old stuff |
| 16:17:50 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:17:53 | Doug_relaxing | well |
| 16:17:59 | Doug_relaxing | VC++ 6.0 |
| 16:18:00 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:18:07 | Doug_relaxing | it compiles bzflag |
| 16:18:10 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:18:17 | patlabor221 | yes that's what I use |
| 16:18:27 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:18:29 | patlabor221 | that's what most people use on windows for it |
| 16:18:37 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:18:43 | patlabor221 | thats why there are VC projects in there |
| 16:18:47 | Doug_relaxing | oh cool |
| 16:19:00 | Doug_relaxing | found mapoint Euro 2001 |
| 16:19:02 | Doug_relaxing | :( |
| 16:19:03 | Doug_relaxing | er |
| 16:19:04 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:19:19 | patlabor221 | every no game MS product should be in there |
| 16:19:19 | Doug_relaxing | thats nice |
| 16:19:25 | patlabor221 | that's why it's a subscription |
| 16:19:28 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:19:37 | Doug_relaxing | but he sent me only the dev stuff |
| 16:19:38 | patlabor221 | but techinaly you uncle broke the law when he gave it to you |
| 16:19:49 | Doug_relaxing | (yea |
| 16:20:00 | Doug_relaxing | but he does not use the dev stuff |
| 16:20:11 | patlabor221 | dosn't mater, he is the liscensee |
| 16:20:19 | Doug_relaxing | hmmm |
| 16:20:46 | Doug_relaxing | ugh |
| 16:20:51 | Doug_relaxing | 1998 stuff |
| 16:20:56 | patlabor221 | realy old |
| 16:21:06 | Doug_relaxing | yip |
| 16:21:08 | Doug_relaxing | yup |
| 16:21:11 | Doug_relaxing | office 98 |
| 16:21:14 | Doug_relaxing | um |
| 16:21:17 | Doug_relaxing | duh |
| 16:21:22 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 16:22:08 | Doug_relaxing | hmmm |
| 16:22:20 | Doug_relaxing | word 97 |
| 16:23:09 | Doug_relaxing | what is interdev? |
| 16:23:16 | patlabor221 | J++ |
| 16:23:23 | Doug_relaxing | ugh |
| 16:23:29 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:23:31 | patlabor221 | old MS web dev enviroment |
| 16:23:36 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:24:33 | Doug_relaxing | visio? |
| 16:24:41 | patlabor221 | project managment |
| 16:24:49 | Doug_relaxing | ah |
| 16:25:15 | Doug_relaxing | um |
| 16:25:23 | Doug_relaxing | windows 2000 chinese version? |
| 16:25:26 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:25:37 | Doug_relaxing | that would be cool to see |
| 16:25:52 | patlabor221 | install it and see :) |
| 16:25:56 | Doug_relaxing | make windows more confusing |
| 16:25:58 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:26:11 | Doug_relaxing | visual sourcesafe? |
| 16:26:21 | patlabor221 | and you say you write code? |
| 16:26:26 | Doug_relaxing | ah |
| 16:26:27 | Doug_relaxing | no |
| 16:26:34 | patlabor221 | what do you do? |
| 16:26:34 | Doug_relaxing | but I am going to learn |
| 16:26:39 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:26:44 | Doug_relaxing | learning to program |
| 16:26:50 | patlabor221 | in? |
| 16:26:54 | Doug_relaxing | um |
| 16:27:00 | Doug_relaxing | starting with pbasic |
| 16:27:08 | Doug_relaxing | then move up to basicx programming |
| 16:27:13 | Doug_relaxing | then VB |
| 16:27:18 | Doug_relaxing | then C++ or java |
| 16:27:20 | patlabor221 | ick, go away |
| 16:27:24 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:27:28 | Doug_relaxing | www.basicx.com |
| 16:27:33 | patlabor221 | script kiddie languages |
| 16:27:36 | Doug_relaxing | www.parallax.com |
| 16:27:41 | patlabor221 | I know what they are |
| 16:27:42 | Doug_relaxing | look at those website |
| 16:27:51 | Doug_relaxing | its not script kiddie |
| 16:27:59 | patlabor221 | languages for people who don't know what they are doing |
| 16:28:03 | Doug_relaxing | its Microprossesor |
| 16:28:11 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:28:16 | Doug_relaxing | on a computer maybe |
| 16:28:21 | Doug_relaxing | but on a computer chip? |
| 16:28:23 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:28:28 | Doug_relaxing | its great for robotics |
| 16:29:16 | patlabor221 | it takes less then 2 weeks to learn C |
| 16:29:25 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:29:26 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:29:32 | Doug_relaxing | I saw that page... |
| 16:29:33 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:29:42 | patlabor221 | I'm talking in practice |
| 16:29:45 | Doug_relaxing | LEARN C in 20 days |
| 16:29:51 | patlabor221 | that's a book |
| 16:29:55 | Doug_relaxing | or that |
| 16:29:55 | patlabor221 | and that's over 2 weeks |
| 16:29:59 | Doug_relaxing | oh |
| 16:30:02 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:30:05 | Doug_relaxing | it is... |
| 16:30:07 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:30:16 | Doug_relaxing | can you learn c in 20 days? |
| 16:30:26 | Doug_relaxing | I could never get the variables |
| 16:30:35 | patlabor221 | I was writing C in less then a week |
| 16:30:47 | patlabor221 | then how do you expect to get any other language |
| 16:30:52 | patlabor221 | it's a common core concept |
| 16:31:00 | Doug_relaxing | its more simpler to program a microchip, that I get to talk to the hardware directly |
| 16:31:04 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:31:09 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:31:18 | Doug_relaxing | any webpages on learning c? |
| 16:31:24 | Doug_relaxing | or did you read the hel pfile? |
| 16:31:26 | patlabor221 | registers are still variables |
| 16:31:32 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:31:32 | patlabor221 | I got a book |
| 16:31:36 | patlabor221 | C primer |
| 16:31:41 | Doug_relaxing | it does not use registers |
| 16:31:43 | Doug_relaxing | ah |
| 16:31:44 | Doug_relaxing | ok |
| 16:31:53 | Doug_relaxing | quite simple |
| 16:31:59 | patlabor221 | any progrma has to use regitsers |
| 16:32:17 | Doug_relaxing | if pin0 = 1 then blowup else start |
| 16:32:19 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:32:20 | Doug_relaxing | I see now |
| 16:32:34 | patlabor221 | all cpu operatators work on registers |
| 16:32:53 | patlabor221 | if you want minicode learn assembler |
| 16:32:53 | Doug_relaxing | thought you meant interupts |
| 16:32:58 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:33:00 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:33:17 | patlabor221 | inturpts are for external data items |
| 16:33:26 | Doug_relaxing | learn Atmel |
| 16:33:32 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 16:33:40 | Doug_relaxing | er |
| 16:33:43 | Doug_relaxing | what ever it is |
| 16:34:17 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:35:19 | Doug_relaxing | what is the diference between tech, pro, standard, learning, and enterprise? |
| 16:35:47 | jzaun | Can anyone here get the latest CVS to work properly? I can compile without a problem, but is segfaults as soon as I run bzflag |
| 16:36:04 | Doug_relaxing | dunno |
| 16:36:09 | Doug_relaxing | how latest? |
| 16:36:37 | patlabor221 | latest means now |
| 16:36:41 | jzaun | current CVS as of 2 min ago |
| 16:36:45 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:36:52 | Doug_relaxing | dunno |
| 16:36:56 | Doug_relaxing | I dont have it yet |
| 16:37:01 | patlabor221 | I can try a windows build if somone can send me the code, I can't get to CVS here |
| 16:37:09 | Doug_relaxing | ah |
| 16:37:16 | Doug_relaxing | I have a cvs program for ya patlabor221 |
| 16:37:30 | patlabor221 | I don't need a program |
| 16:37:35 | Doug_relaxing | oh? |
| 16:37:37 | patlabor221 | I cna't get to the server |
| 16:37:37 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:37:40 | patlabor221 | firewall |
| 16:37:44 | Doug_relaxing | bummer |
| 16:37:45 | Doug_relaxing | :( |
| 16:37:53 | Doug_relaxing | I dont have the latest |
| 16:37:57 | Doug_relaxing | soooo |
| 16:38:12 | Doug_relaxing | what changed? |
| 16:38:13 | patlabor221 | just one of the things you have to deal with when you have a real job |
| 16:38:14 | jzaun | patlabor221: let me get it for ya |
| 16:38:21 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:38:29 | Doug_relaxing | hey |
| 16:38:32 | Doug_relaxing | I have a firewall |
| 16:38:35 | Doug_relaxing | but its um |
| 16:38:40 | Doug_relaxing | DMZed to me |
| 16:38:42 | Doug_relaxing | hehe |
| 16:38:48 | patlabor221 | your at home |
| 16:38:51 | Doug_relaxing | yup |
| 16:39:03 | patlabor221 | I have a real firewall, big red box and an network nazi |
| 16:39:07 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 16:39:17 | Doug_relaxing | network nazi? |
| 16:39:18 | patlabor221 | it was a bitch to just get IRC here |
| 16:39:20 | Doug_relaxing | nice word |
| 16:39:22 | patlabor221 | IS department |
| 16:39:25 | Doug_relaxing | ah |
| 16:39:37 | Doug_relaxing | my uncle does that kind of stuff |
| 16:39:39 | jzaun | patlabor221: where ya from? |
| 16:39:44 | patlabor221 | california |
| 16:39:58 | jzaun | Cool, just wondering, PA here |
| 16:40:00 | Doug_relaxing | I am from (hick) kentucky |
| 16:40:05 | Doug_relaxing | teehee |
| 16:40:06 | patlabor221 | and it show |
| 16:40:17 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 16:40:19 | Doug_relaxing | um |
| 16:40:23 | patlabor221 | have you had sex with a pig yet today? |
| 16:40:39 | Doug_relaxing | what would I use office for windows 95 Y2K patch? |
| 16:40:45 | Doug_relaxing | for? |
| 16:40:51 | Doug_relaxing | hehe |
| 16:40:56 | Doug_relaxing | Y2K patch.... |
| 16:41:16 | Doug_relaxing | it was all microsoft hype |
| 16:41:28 | patlabor221 | nonot realy some stuff did have a problem |
| 16:41:37 | Doug_relaxing | oh.. |
| 16:41:39 | patlabor221 | it was just well mannaged |
| 16:41:40 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:41:44 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 16:41:49 | Doug_relaxing | right |
| 16:41:59 | patlabor221 | one of our databases has losts of 1900's in it now |
| 16:42:03 | patlabor221 | cus we missed one |
| 16:42:08 | Doug_relaxing | wow |
| 16:42:19 | Doug_relaxing | oh yea |
| 16:42:31 | patlabor221 | jzaun: just let me know where I can get it and I'll build it |
| 16:42:33 | Doug_relaxing | after VC++ I am going to learn fortran and cobol.... |
| 16:42:39 | patlabor221 | why? |
| 16:42:49 | patlabor221 | why not try to get a job |
| 16:42:54 | Doug_relaxing | kidding |
| 16:42:57 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 16:43:02 | patlabor221 | so you can afford all the riddilin |
| 16:43:06 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 16:43:07 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 16:43:19 | jzaun | http://justin.jzaun.com/bzflag.cvs.tgz |
| 16:43:57 | Doug_relaxing | thx |
| 16:44:07 | Doug_relaxing | bah |
| 16:44:12 | Doug_relaxing | I got 5 megs left on my drive |
| 16:44:20 | Doug_relaxing | or on my windows 2000 part |
| 16:44:22 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 16:44:29 | patlabor221 | like I said throw awway the pig porn |
| 16:44:37 | Doug_relaxing | hehe |
| 16:44:37 | jzaun | hehe |
| 16:44:43 | Doug_relaxing | I dont do porn |
| 16:44:50 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 16:44:53 | patlabor221 | right |
| 16:44:55 | Doug_relaxing | I do linux |
| 16:45:00 | patlabor221 | ok then throw awway all the pokimon |
| 16:45:05 | Doug_relaxing | pokimon? |
| 16:45:09 | Doug_relaxing | YUK! |
| 16:45:25 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:45:26 | patlabor221 | oh so your a disney freak then? |
| 16:45:29 | Doug_relaxing | u |
| 16:45:30 | Doug_relaxing | um |
| 16:45:33 | Doug_relaxing | nope |
| 16:45:49 | Doug_relaxing | I have acouple disk images of mac os 8.1 |
| 16:45:56 | Doug_relaxing | for my emulator |
| 16:45:57 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 16:46:25 | patlabor221 | I cant build it |
| 16:46:31 | patlabor221 | geting vorbis errors |
| 16:46:34 | jzaun | likes Disney |
| 16:46:47 | Doug_relaxing | vorbis? |
| 16:46:58 | Doug_relaxing | hes got vorbis in the game? |
| 16:47:01 | Doug_relaxing | ack!!! |
| 16:47:30 | patlabor221 | doug you knew he was gonna now be quiet |
| 16:47:43 | Doug_relaxing | yea.. |
| 16:47:45 | jzaun | yah, you need libvorbis now... changes sound files to it |
| 16:47:54 | Doug_relaxing | but I thought he was just trying it out |
| 16:48:06 | Doug_relaxing | i did not know he put it into CVS |
| 16:48:27 | Doug_relaxing | must of missed that confersation |
| 16:48:51 | Doug_relaxing | what is PC Srvr? |
| 16:49:07 | jzaun | The sounds are much better sounding :-) |
| 16:49:17 | Doug_relaxing | they are? |
| 16:49:19 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:49:28 | patlabor221 | where do I get libvorbis for windows? |
| 16:49:31 | Doug_relaxing | I guess I will have to compile it sometime |
| 16:50:02 | | rumour has it vorbis is an open, patent free audio format |
| 16:50:02 | Doug_relaxing | ibot vorbis? |
| 16:50:40 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-07-08 16:40:48 | Chicken-Feather Chips | The Perl Foundation Grants Are Running Out | Will Instant Messaging Ever Unite? | Web Designers Ignoring Standards and Support IE Only |
| 16:50:40 | Doug_relaxing | ibot slashdot |
| 16:50:48 | Doug_relaxing | ?? |
| 16:50:54 | Doug_relaxing | I gotta see that |
| 16:51:29 | Doug_relaxing | "The Washington Post reports that University of Delaware chemical engineer proposes to replace silicon with chicken feather composites -- since the feathers apparently make the electrons fly. (Unlike turkeys.)" |
| 16:51:30 | patlabor221 | I'm not finding a windows libVorbis |
| 16:52:05 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:53:48 | Doug_relaxing | patlabor221: where do you work at? |
| 16:53:56 | patlabor221 | at a company |
| 16:54:01 | Doug_relaxing | ah |
| 16:54:02 | patlabor221 | a software company |
| 16:54:03 | Doug_relaxing | cool |
| 16:54:09 | Doug_relaxing | software? |
| 16:54:10 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 16:54:12 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 16:54:23 | patlabor221 | thats why I am a "programer" |
| 16:54:28 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 16:57:43 | jzaun | patlabor221: can you find the source to vorbis anywhere? |
| 17:00:27 | Doug_relaxing | bah |
| 17:00:30 | jzaun | try: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/ |
| 17:00:34 | Doug_relaxing | pat is gone |
| 17:01:21 | Doug_relaxing | aha! |
| 17:01:42 | Doug_relaxing | windows 2000, Chin-Simp |
| 17:02:05 | Doug_relaxing | and of course the arabic too |
| 17:02:13 | Doug_relaxing | I think pat is gone |
| 17:02:20 | Doug_relaxing | I can ping him |
| 17:02:26 | Doug_relaxing | cant* |
| 17:02:50 | jzaun | His firewall mak block pings... I have mine setup that way on my server |
| 17:02:56 | Doug_relaxing | oh |
| 17:03:01 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 17:03:16 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 17:03:17 | Doug_relaxing | http://www.xpenguin.com/plot.php?address=208.48.199.202 |
| 17:04:27 | jzaun | http://www.xpenguin.com/plot.php?address=jzaun.com |
| 17:04:38 | Doug_relaxing | HA! |
| 17:04:47 | Doug_relaxing | Global crossing |
| 17:04:53 | Doug_relaxing | cool |
| 17:05:17 | Doug_relaxing | Global Crossing |
| 17:05:17 | Doug_relaxing | Gibbs and Associates |
| 17:05:51 | Doug_relaxing | you can never hide... |
| 17:07:51 | patlabor221 | you didn't even have to go that far |
| 17:07:57 | Doug_relaxing | sorry |
| 17:07:58 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 17:08:00 | patlabor221 | to a who on me and get may email |
| 17:08:06 | Doug_relaxing | I can? |
| 17:08:14 | Doug_relaxing | oh |
| 17:08:16 | Doug_relaxing | I can |
| 17:08:22 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:08:27 | patlabor221 | I had to go talk to the boss man |
| 17:08:30 | Doug_relaxing | I did a reverse look up |
| 17:08:32 | Doug_relaxing | :0 |
| 17:08:45 | Doug_relaxing | oh |
| 17:08:58 | Doug_relaxing | talk to him about why you are not doing any work? |
| 17:09:00 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 17:09:33 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 17:10:09 | jzaun | me? I got layed off last month |
| 17:10:18 | Doug_relaxing | bummer |
| 17:10:20 | Doug_relaxing | :( |
| 17:10:43 | Doug_relaxing | :'C |
| 17:11:03 | jzaun | yup... know anyone who is looking for a VB programmer/web developer/Access developer/linuz/perl/html/dhtml/php/C/support guy? |
| 17:11:22 | jzaun | s/linuz/linux/ |
| 17:11:23 | Doug_relaxing | sheesh |
| 17:11:27 | patlabor221 | it damn well better |
| 17:11:29 | Doug_relaxing | is that your resume? |
| 17:12:01 | jzaun | http://justin.jzaun.com/ click on resume |
| 17:12:03 | patlabor221 | No the boss man just gave me some stuff to test |
| 17:12:14 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:12:18 | patlabor221 | I din't see any libs for vorbis on that pages |
| 17:12:43 | jzaun | hmm... there has to be the source to vobis somewhere |
| 17:13:14 | jzaun | http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/download/vorbis_nightly_cvs.tgz |
| 17:14:11 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:14:46 | patlabor221 | god nightlys |
| 17:14:48 | patlabor221 | scarry |
| 17:14:55 | Doug_relaxing | ? |
| 17:15:05 | Doug_relaxing | this is 1,7? |
| 17:15:07 | patlabor221 | had bad luck wiht the mozilla nightlys |
| 17:15:11 | Doug_relaxing | oh |
| 17:15:17 | jzaun | hehe... 4 of the 5 modules in that are stable, the 5th (vorbis itself) is in RC mode |
| 17:16:11 | Doug_relaxing | cool |
| 17:16:18 | Doug_relaxing | trailing garbage in GZip |
| 17:16:24 | Doug_relaxing | wierd |
| 17:16:43 | jzaun | I get that too... normally just a blank line or two |
| 17:16:56 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 17:18:38 | Doug_relaxing | what do I do with the vorbis file? |
| 17:18:40 | patlabor221 | now that is a lot of warnings |
| 17:18:44 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 17:18:51 | Doug_relaxing | where do I put it? |
| 17:18:54 | patlabor221 | sweet monkey jesus!!! 607 warnings |
| 17:19:01 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 17:19:46 | Doug_relaxing | what do I compile? |
| 17:20:18 | jzaun | you need vorbid (the lib itself) for bzflag and whatever it requires.. I think libogg |
| 17:20:27 | Doug_relaxing | ok... |
| 17:20:38 | jzaun | but me on Linux so it may be much different on a Windows shop |
| 17:20:54 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:21:44 | patlabor221 | where does it put the damned lib |
| 17:21:58 | Doug_relaxing | sheesh |
| 17:22:05 | Doug_relaxing | it puts it in the debug folder I think |
| 17:22:23 | jzaun | /usr/lib/vorbis* on my Mandrake box :-P |
| 17:22:30 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:22:32 | Doug_relaxing | thx |
| 17:23:17 | Doug_relaxing | ok |
| 17:23:21 | Doug_relaxing | what DO I compile?> |
| 17:23:28 | Doug_relaxing | what file in what foler? |
| 17:23:30 | Doug_relaxing | folder? |
| 17:23:38 | Doug_relaxing | I am lost in here |
| 17:23:56 | jzaun | not sure.. I dind't compile it myself I got it precompiled and just installed it... |
| 17:24:02 | Doug_relaxing | bah |
| 17:24:12 | Doug_relaxing | thats kinda like cheating |
| 17:24:13 | Doug_relaxing | :) |
| 17:24:27 | patlabor221 | no it's called smart |
| 17:24:31 | Doug_relaxing | lo |
| 17:24:32 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 17:24:39 | Doug_relaxing | point taken |
| 17:26:44 | Doug_relaxing | aha! |
| 17:26:47 | Doug_relaxing | found the sorce |
| 17:26:52 | Doug_relaxing | http://www.vorbis.com/download_win.psp |
| 17:26:54 | Doug_relaxing | hehe |
| 17:26:57 | Doug_relaxing | I am smart |
| 17:27:40 | Doug_relaxing | lo BZFlag |
| 17:28:31 | jzaun | ok.. just uninstalled and reinstall libogg and libvorbis... let try this again :-) |
| 17:28:53 | Doug_relaxing | bah |
| 17:29:13 | Doug_relaxing | oops |
| 17:29:14 | Doug_relaxing | vorbis_static_d.lib - 20 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 17:29:14 | jzaun | still segfault... very stange |
| 17:29:21 | patlabor221 | I cant even find the libs it makes |
| 17:29:26 | Doug_relaxing | me neither |
| 17:29:39 | Doug_relaxing | http://www.vorbis.com/files/rc3/windows/libvorbis-1.0rc3.zip |
| 17:30:00 | Doug_relaxing | oh duh |
| 17:30:07 | Doug_relaxing | I want libogg right? |
| 17:30:21 | jzaun | libvorbis requires libogg |
| 17:30:25 | Doug_relaxing | ah |
| 17:31:20 | patlabor221 | what a complete pain in the butt |
| 17:31:24 | Doug_relaxing | ok... |
| 17:31:24 | Doug_relaxing | ogg_static_d.lib - 0 error(s), 11 warning(s) |
| 17:31:26 | Doug_relaxing | better |
| 17:31:33 | Doug_relaxing | now what do I do? |
| 17:31:42 | Doug_relaxing | I have the lib |
| 17:31:52 | jzaun | build libvorbis :-) |
| 17:31:57 | Doug_relaxing | ah |
| 17:32:03 | Doug_relaxing | but what about that lib? |
| 17:32:08 | Doug_relaxing | what do I do with it? |
| 17:32:19 | jzaun | not sure how to install them in windows |
| 17:32:25 | Doug_relaxing | ohhh |
| 17:32:28 | patlabor221 | you don't install libs |
| 17:32:31 | Doug_relaxing | ok |
| 17:32:35 | jzaun | heh, "make isntall" ? |
| 17:32:38 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 17:32:42 | patlabor221 | you don't install libs |
| 17:32:45 | Doug_relaxing | so |
| 17:32:51 | Doug_relaxing | what do I do with it> |
| 17:32:54 | jzaun | oh... shows what I know :-) |
| 17:32:56 | patlabor221 | if you made static then bz shold link to it |
| 17:33:01 | Doug_relaxing | ok |
| 17:33:08 | Doug_relaxing | I put it where? |
| 17:33:22 | patlabor221 | if you made dynamic then bz links to the export lib, and the dll goes in the same folder as the exe |
| 17:33:31 | Doug_relaxing | ok... |
| 17:33:35 | patlabor221 | did they update the dsp's to have the new lib? |
| 17:33:36 | Doug_relaxing | I made the static |
| 17:33:43 | Doug_relaxing | dunno |
| 17:33:54 | patlabor221 | then it's a lib |
| 17:34:00 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 17:34:08 | Doug_relaxing | should I make the dyn? |
| 17:34:11 | patlabor221 | make sure the dsp has a refrence to the lib and is in one of the paths |
| 17:34:18 | Doug_relaxing | ok... |
| 17:34:25 | Doug_relaxing | sheesh |
| 17:34:31 | Doug_relaxing | this is so hard.... |
| 17:34:33 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 17:34:49 | Doug_relaxing | lo bryjen! |
| 17:34:59 | bryjen | hi |
| 17:40:25 | Doug_relaxing | c:\moved\cvs-1-11-2\bzflag.cvs\bzflag\src\mediafile\oggaudiofile.h(17) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'vorbis/vorbisfile.h': No such file or directory |
| 17:40:42 | Doug_relaxing | mm? |
| 17:41:24 | jzaun | where are all your other system .h files located? |
| 17:41:37 | Doug_relaxing | um |
| 17:41:40 | Doug_relaxing | let me check |
| 17:43:42 | patlabor2211 | damn that peer guy |
| 17:43:49 | Doug_relaxing | lol |
| 17:43:50 | jzaun | :) |
| 17:47:38 | Doug_relaxing | YAY!!! |
| 17:47:42 | Doug_relaxing | it compiling!!! |
| 17:48:30 | Doug_relaxing | sheesh |
| 17:48:40 | Doug_relaxing | is this 1.8? |
| 17:48:40 | jzaun | hehe :-) |
| 17:48:46 | jzaun | 1.8a |
| 17:48:49 | Doug_relaxing | oh |
| 17:48:52 | Doug_relaxing | ooohhh |
| 17:48:59 | Doug_relaxing | thats why it so HUGH!! |
| 17:49:01 | jzaun | wel I think 1.8a1 to be exact |
| 17:49:06 | Doug_relaxing | hehe |
| 17:49:19 | Doug_relaxing | almost done |
| 17:49:46 | Doug_relaxing | still compiling |
| 17:49:58 | patlabor2211 | the windows projects are not set up right, what a pain |
| 17:50:03 | jzaun | yah. I have a dual 500Mhz system and it takes some time |
| 17:50:04 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 17:50:17 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:50:34 | teA_ | Doug ? |
| 17:50:46 | Doug_relaxing | ja? |
| 17:50:48 | Doug_relaxing | hallo |
| 17:50:51 | teA_ | hello |
| 17:50:54 | Doug_relaxing | ;) |
| 17:50:55 | teA_ | your chat bot ! |
| 17:51:00 | Doug_relaxing | no |
| 17:51:01 | teA_ | i will kill hiom ;) |
| 17:51:06 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:51:10 | Doug_relaxing | still compiling |
| 17:51:20 | bryjen | i'll have to remember to compile 1.8 at work. bigger boxen there. |
| 17:51:25 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:52:20 | Doug_relaxing | ack |
| 17:52:23 | Doug_relaxing | lots of warnings |
| 17:52:34 | Doug_relaxing | 1 error(s), 144 warning(s)!!!! |
| 17:52:36 | Doug_relaxing | yay!!! |
| 17:53:42 | Doug_relaxing | where is the EXE??? |
| 17:53:45 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 17:53:53 | jzaun | bzflag/bin |
| 17:53:57 | Doug_relaxing | oh |
| 17:54:01 | Doug_relaxing | an error |
| 17:54:10 | bryjen | generally error = something didnt finish |
| 17:54:16 | Doug_relaxing | heh |
| 17:54:41 | ritchie_ | is www.bzflag.org or my dns down?# |
| 17:55:01 | Doug_relaxing | it works |
| 17:55:01 | patlabor2211 | if it had an error then it won't make an exe |
| 17:55:02 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 17:55:06 | Doug_relaxing | yea |
| 17:55:09 | Doug_relaxing | one error |
| 17:55:12 | patlabor2211 | I get 17 link errors |
| 17:55:13 | Doug_relaxing | very big one too |
| 17:55:17 | patlabor2211 | lib conflicts |
| 17:55:17 | Doug_relaxing | I got one |
| 17:55:21 | Doug_relaxing | oh |
| 17:56:04 | jzaun | ritchie_: I can't get to bzflag.org either |
| 17:56:25 | ritchie_ | dns |
| 17:56:26 | ritchie_ | probs |
| 17:56:45 | Doug_relaxing | hmm |
| 17:56:47 | Doug_relaxing | ok |
| 17:57:28 | Doug_bzflag | c:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\map(46)??/ |
| 17:57:58 | ritchie_ | compiling 1.8 latest cvs for win |
| 17:58:00 | ritchie_ | ... |
| 17:58:09 | ritchie_ | see if i get an error |
| 17:58:15 | Doug_bzflag | ok |
| 17:58:54 | ritchie_ | yep |
| 17:58:56 | ritchie_ | i get 2 fatal errors |
| 17:59:02 | ritchie_ | work in progress shall we say |
| 17:59:03 | ritchie_ | ... |
| 17:59:11 | patlabor2211 | very |
| 17:59:13 | ritchie_ | is the vorbis akira's mp3 player thing |
| 17:59:40 | patlabor2211 | no |
| 17:59:44 | jzaun | arg... I uninstalled/compiled/installed libogg and libvorbis. After all that bzflag compiles and still segfaults on execution... will wait for a few more cvs commits to go by :-) |
| 17:59:50 | patlabor2211 | Cap.Protons new sound mananger |
| 17:59:54 | ritchie_ | ah |
| 17:59:59 | ritchie_ | sound manager will do what? |
| 17:59:59 | Doug_bzflag | ack |
| 18:00:04 | Doug_bzflag | list server is down |
| 18:00:24 | ritchie_ | ^^ ? |
| 18:02:14 | patlabor2211 | I launch but just sit at a black screen |
| 18:02:34 | patlabor2211 | man and you can't even link to the debug vorb libs |
| 18:03:11 | ritchie_ | what will the sound manager do> |
| 18:03:15 | jzaun | oh... patlabor2211 I get that to if you launch from within the bin directory |
| 18:03:18 | ritchie_ | or is that stilla mystery |
| 18:03:19 | patlabor2211 | manage sounds |
| 18:03:26 | jzaun | launch from within the bzflag directory |
| 18:03:28 | patlabor2211 | I put the data dir in there |
| 18:03:43 | jzaun | ok :-) then your one up on me.. |
| 18:03:51 | patlabor2211 | it's busted |
| 18:04:18 | patlabor2211 | nice of cap to leave us busted cvs before he leaves :) |
| 18:04:43 | Doug_bzflag | lol |
| 18:05:09 | Doug_bzflag | hmm |
| 18:05:16 | Doug_bzflag | and the list server is down too |
| 18:05:17 | Doug_bzflag | :( |
| 18:05:31 | jzaun | patlabor2211: Can debug vorbis? |
| 18:05:55 | bryjen | bzflag.org and bzflag.sourceforge.net (where the list-server redirect file is) ping but don't return pages. |
| 18:06:00 | ritchie_ | leaves to where> |
| 18:06:03 | Doug_bzflag | hmmm |
| 18:07:00 | Doug_bzflag | bah |
| 18:07:04 | Doug_bzflag | it getting hot in here |
| 18:07:05 | patlabor2211 | peer strikes again |
| 18:07:08 | Doug_bzflag | gotta go |
| 18:07:12 | Doug_bzflag | cya |
| 18:07:30 | bryjen | the actual list server is up at bzflist://166.70.15.250 |
| 18:07:32 | jzaun | bye |
| 18:07:43 | Doug_bzflag | I mean out of the room |
| 18:07:46 | Doug_bzflag | ;) |
| 18:07:53 | Doug_bzflag | the office gets hot |
| 18:07:54 | Doug_bzflag | hmm |
| 18:08:48 | BZFlag | bryjen: looks like SF is having grief. |
| 18:09:27 | bryjen | the main www.sourceforge.net still works tho... so maybe only part of the server farm fell over. |
| 18:11:24 | jzaun | patlabor2211: move the ogg files out of the data dir and try to run it again |
| 18:13:13 | jzaun | oh well... I got to run, bye all |
| 18:44:37 | BZFlag | looks like sf is back. |
| 18:44:50 | Doug_bzflag | good |
| 18:44:51 | Doug_bzflag | ;) |
| 19:03:15 | Doug_bzflag | lo tankmann |
| 19:03:21 | tankmann | hi there |
| 19:03:29 | | no I don't want to |
| 19:03:29 | Doug_bzflag | ibot say hi |
| 19:03:37 | | Doug_bzflag: sorry... |
| 19:03:37 | Doug_bzflag | ibot bad ibot |
| 19:04:00 | akira_ | abnd |
| 19:04:07 | tankmann | hallo tach auch |
| 19:04:18 | akira_ | na mole |
| 19:04:25 | akira_ | wie gehts dir nach gestern ? |
| 19:04:36 | tankmann | ganz ganz toll |
| 19:04:57 | tankmann | ich schau mir mal eben die teamwertung an... |
| 19:04:58 | akira_ | hehe :) |
| 19:05:03 | akira_ | das kenn ich :) |
| 19:05:04 | tankmann | ...obwohl ich das eh schon getan hab :) |
| 19:05:33 | tankmann | oh, von den loops is ja noch ein neues spiel drin... |
| 19:06:00 | akira_ | oha, die loops strengen sich an |
| 19:06:18 | tankmann | toll, eigentlich wollten wir den his ja die punkte abnehmen... |
| 19:17:27 | Doug_bzflag | lo goofey |
| 19:17:56 | goofey | hey there Doug_bzflag |
| 19:18:02 | Doug_bzflag | heh |
| 19:24:11 | akira_ | cu all |
| 19:24:17 | Doug_not_busy | cya |
| 19:27:48 | Doug_not_busy | lo |
| 19:33:41 | Doug_not_busy | dinah is online.... |
| 19:38:14 | Doug_not_busy | lol |
| 19:38:16 | Doug_not_busy | lo |
| 19:38:18 | dinah | Doug_not_busy: join #dinah |
| 19:38:52 | Doug_not_busy | so? |
| 19:39:01 | Doug_not_busy | strange people around here |
| 19:39:29 | Doug_not_busy | ?? |
| 19:39:36 | Doug_not_busy | Patlabor221: what was that about? |
| 19:40:16 | Doug_not_busy | Patlabor221? |
| 20:12:51 | freelancer | hi anyone here can boot a cheater on ducati bzmaster is his name |
| 20:13:28 | freelancer | anyone here |
| 20:13:49 | crs23 | anybody have the password on ducati? |
| 20:14:00 | crs23 | we've got a cheater: bzmaster |
| 20:34:25 | bryjen | the cheater bzmaster has now moved to the astercity server, where there is also another cheater named "colostomy bag" |
| 20:36:01 | Patlabor221 | ewwwww |
| 20:36:40 | bryjen | heh, looks like the bag guy was just trying to annoy the first cheater. |
| 20:36:57 | Patlabor221 | still nasty name |
| 20:37:40 | bryjen | and annoying the other players too. I can't say I approve of lowering yourself to the cheaters level to drive him out. |
| 20:38:13 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:54:40 | Chestal | heh crs23! |
| 20:54:48 | Chestal | long time no see |
| 20:57:53 | crs23 | hey chestal |
| 20:58:19 | crs23 | i came on to let you know about a cheater on ducati. he's gone now though. |
| 20:58:42 | Chestal | ah, noone with pasword on? I thought everybody would know it by now :-) |
| 20:58:57 | crs23 | yeah, i thought i'd ask you for it. |
| 20:59:18 | crs23 | and ask your ban policies. |
| 20:59:22 | Chestal | so, any time to do 1.8 development? |
| 20:59:34 | Patlabor221 | sucker is busted |
| 20:59:39 | crs23 | not yet but i'm getting close to wrapping up another project |
| 20:59:44 | Patlabor221 | them oggs mess it up |
| 21:00:08 | Widget | hihihi |
| 21:00:17 | DougHeck | hihihi |
| 21:00:19 | DougHeck | :P |
| 21:00:29 | Patlabor221 | hi |
| 21:00:34 | DougHeck | hi |
| 21:01:14 | DougHeck | moo |
| 21:01:14 | DougHeck | cow |
| 21:01:30 | Patlabor221 | wow he's wierd |
| 21:02:00 | Patlabor221 | the 1.8 that's in cvs won't start for me unless I take the sounds out. |
| 21:02:20 | Patlabor221 | and man what a pain to get those ogg libs to build |
| 21:03:17 | DougHeck | test |
| 21:03:26 | bryjen | recent Slackware comes with an ogg package |
| 21:03:31 | DougHeck | ugh |
| 21:03:35 | Patlabor221 | windows dosn't |
| 21:03:44 | DougHeck | who uses slackware? |
| 21:03:50 | Patlabor221 | got a complete metric ton of warnings |
| 21:03:57 | Patlabor221 | obiously some people do |
| 21:04:01 | bryjen | donno if that'll do it. i started to build 1.8 a while back, but got impatient |
| 21:04:44 | Patlabor221 | need to talk to Apathy about the STL warnings too, still a bunch of em |
| 21:06:16 | Widget | Patlabor221: Metric tonne. |
| 21:06:20 | Widget | Patlabor221: Imperial ton. |
| 21:06:40 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 21:06:45 | Patlabor221 | well it's a butload |
| 21:07:04 | Patlabor221 | metric just makes it sound biger |
| 21:07:07 | Widget | Hm.... what script decides at startup what boot scripts to execute? |
| 21:07:15 | jpablo | hey bzflagers. |
| 21:07:21 | Widget | Does it just execute everything in the proper directory for that runlevel? |
| 21:07:50 | bryjen | booting what? |
| 21:07:51 | Patlabor221 | hey jpablo |
| 21:08:12 | Widget | Bootling Linux. |
| 21:08:32 | bryjen | Depends on the distro |
| 21:08:38 | Widget | So, for instance, if I have S10sysklogd and S20network in your rc5.d, will it always start sysklogd and then network whenever entering runlevel 5? |
| 21:09:23 | Widget | Something odd I noticed about Debian is that the boot scripts in the rcX.d are not symlinks to scripts in init.d as they are in a lot of other distros. |
| 21:09:34 | bryjen | i think thats the idea. |
| 21:10:07 | bryjen | that would cause a lot of duplication |
| 21:10:08 | Chestal | so with an extremely lwo framerate I should be able to drive through pyrmids for example? |
| 21:10:10 | Chestal | oopsa |
| 21:10:12 | Widget | So if I want a script executed, I can just put it in the proper directory, and give it an S?? number to put it in the proper place when loading? |
| 21:10:18 | bryjen | hard links perhaps? |
| 21:10:22 | DougHeck | ô |
| 21:10:31 | Widget | Hm... |
| 21:10:57 | DougHeck | ® |
| 21:11:02 | Widget | And is it necessary for stuff in rc6.d to begin with a K? |
| 21:11:13 | crs23 | Widget: yes, just put the script in there. |
| 21:11:15 | Widget | I thought in runlevels 0 and 6, it stops the process whether or not the first letter is K or S. |
| 21:11:32 | bryjen | sounds right. I'd use the K just to be safe. |
| 21:12:24 | Widget | Hm.... so by backgrounding most of the processes run by the scripts.. |
| 21:12:31 | Widget | I can probably increase my boot time a lot. |
| 21:12:44 | Patlabor221 | that's what CapP said he did |
| 21:12:53 | DougHeck | ± |
| 21:13:39 | Widget | Yah.... any drawbacks, though? |
| 21:13:56 | Widget | If there were no drawbacks, wouldn't init scripts come with all the processes backgrounded by default? |
| 21:14:20 | Patlabor221 | wonder what happens if they all don't start up in the correct order |
| 21:14:26 | bryjen | as long as you dont cause timing problems, network servers start before the net card is configured. one at a time is also easier to debug. |
| 21:14:36 | Widget | Ah, OK. |
| 21:15:56 | almogaver | hi |
| 21:16:11 | bryjen | er, that's "LIKE network servers starting before cards" |
| 21:16:30 | Patlabor221 | whoa that was wierd, for some reason the BZflag shot sound was in my play list, and between songs it fired off, and I ducked |
| 21:16:32 | jzaun | how do I kick someone from my server? |
| 21:16:40 | DougHeck | lol |
| 21:16:46 | DougHeck | jzaun |
| 21:16:55 | DougHeck | /kick callsign |
| 21:17:03 | jzaun | I get unknown command |
| 21:17:04 | DougHeck | but you need a password |
| 21:17:05 | bryjen | did you start the server with -password ? |
| 21:17:06 | Chestal | jzaun: become admin with /password <password> (specified in the command line), then use /kick <callsign> |
| 21:17:21 | jzaun | what is no password was spessified? |
| 21:17:31 | DougHeck | no kick |
| 21:17:32 | Chestal | jzaun: then you cannot use any admin commands |
| 21:17:50 | jzaun | oh... guess the touchy political conversation goes on then |
| 21:18:00 | DougHeck | what? |
| 21:18:25 | jzaun | jzaun.com I got a guy with the nick "DEATH 2 ISRAEL2" spouting off |
| 21:18:33 | DougHeck | heh |
| 21:18:40 | DougHeck | let me see |
| 21:19:41 | Widget | Let me create a nick DEATH 2 PALESTINE2 |
| 21:19:51 | jzaun | go for it |
| 21:19:58 | Chestal | so, D2I is Death to Israel? |
| 21:20:08 | Chestal | I read some comments from him on the ezboard? |
| 21:20:12 | Chestal | never saw him on ducati |
| 21:20:34 | DougHeck | let me try |
| 21:20:35 | jzaun | I can /msg the -d output to you |
| 21:20:37 | DougHeck | making a nick |
| 21:20:41 | DougHeck | yea |
| 21:20:42 | Widget | jzaun: Yah. |
| 21:20:43 | DougHeck | do that |
| 21:20:48 | DougHeck | me too |
| 21:22:07 | almogaver | jzaun: what "spouting off" means? |
| 21:22:24 | almogaver | anyway I think nobody should kick other by an offensive nick |
| 21:22:52 | almogaver | if "spout off" is anything bad, that's another thing ;) |
| 21:23:31 | Chestal | well, IMHO 'death to <country>' is bad enough to be a kick reason |
| 21:23:39 | Chestal | it's up to the server admin anyway |
| 21:23:49 | DougHeck | heh |
| 21:23:54 | Chestal | when you don't liek a server or a server admin, don't play there, easy |
| 21:24:21 | Chestal | you can of course complain about that in Forums etc., so peopel migh tjudge for thmselves whether the admin is an idiot and also ignore that server |
| 21:24:22 | DougHeck | heh |
| 21:24:34 | bryjen | almogaver: "spout off" = rant |
| 21:24:38 | DougHeck | ah |
| 21:24:38 | almogaver | I agree Chestal, it's just my opinion |
| 21:25:02 | almogaver | thx bryjen |
| 21:25:12 | arathorn | hi all |
| 21:25:16 | arathorn | ALMOOOOOOOOO!!!!! |
| 21:25:39 | almogaver | hi arathorn! |
| 21:26:21 | almogaver | Chestal: but I think free speech is more important, that's because I think he shouldn't be kicked only by the nick |
| 21:26:24 | jzaun | almogaver: Just a political conversation I'de rather avoid on my server |
| 21:26:26 | jzaun | almogaver: Nothing against either side |
| 21:26:28 | jzaun | almogaver: I'de tell em all to change the topic first, but whats the point with no athority to back it up, I didn't launch with a password |
| 21:26:37 | DougHeck | lol |
| 21:26:48 | DougHeck | kill the server and start is pass |
| 21:27:02 | DougHeck | jzaun: how are you putting it into my msg window? |
| 21:27:09 | DougHeck | script? |
| 21:27:16 | Chestal | almogaver: IMHO it's ok to enforce a little more political correctness and overall good behaviour on bzflag than on, for example, a political discussion board |
| 21:27:18 | jzaun | almogaver: I agree free speach is important... there are just better placed to disscuss it |
| 21:27:30 | jzaun | no no script I just copy/paste it in |
| 21:27:43 | Chestal | almogaver: the game is for playing, not to distribute your opinion |
| 21:27:52 | almogaver | jzaun, Chestal: right |
| 21:27:57 | almogaver | we all agree :) |
| 21:28:07 | Chestal | and using a nick like this is just an obvious provocation |
| 21:28:13 | DougHeck | heh |
| 21:28:29 | almogaver | if you kick people with names offensives to a country |
| 21:28:38 | almogaver | you are taking part in the political discussion |
| 21:28:47 | DougHeck | lol |
| 21:28:49 | almogaver | and this is just a game, not a political board |
| 21:28:51 | Chestal | well, there's a subjective limit |
| 21:29:06 | DougHeck | hmm |
| 21:29:10 | Chestal | I didn't kick anyone on ducati when they say ridiculous thigns about Germans |
| 21:29:16 | DougHeck | is restarting to hook up his 19 inch monitor |
| 21:29:19 | arathorn | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org port 5156 |
| 21:29:21 | almogaver | but of course, ur server is yours |
| 21:29:22 | Chestal | even saxign they are all Nazis or something |
| 21:29:28 | DougHeck | heh |
| 21:29:32 | jzaun | not if you kick all sides... BZFlag is ment to be fun... unless of cource all the Isralies are one color and all the palistinians are another in a CTF game |
| 21:29:33 | almogaver | you can do that you want with it ;) |
| 21:29:39 | DougHeck | heh |
| 21:29:41 | DougHeck | ouch |
| 21:29:47 | DougHeck | with GM... |
| 21:29:51 | DougHeck | and laser... |
| 21:29:58 | DougHeck | heh |
| 21:30:03 | Chestal | but when I woudl for example say that all peopel who dies in the Worl dTrader Center are American Imperialists and desevred to die, woudl that still be acceptable? |
| 21:30:06 | Widget | Yes. The Israelis will all have GM and laser. |
| 21:30:06 | ritchie_ | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 21:30:17 | Widget | And the Palestinians will all have Momentum. |
| 21:30:25 | DougHeck | hehe |
| 21:30:27 | Chestal | and a non-ironic 'death to ...' is off the limits |
| 21:30:28 | DougHeck | yea |
| 21:30:30 | jzaun | Player DEATH 2 ISRAEL2 [4]: got 2 go - coffee shop to blow-up! <--- Thats not a political conversation, thats a provocation |
| 21:30:41 | DougHeck | heh |
| 21:30:50 | DougHeck | sick people |
| 21:30:56 | DougHeck | restarting |
| 21:30:57 | Oooo0 | hola |
| 21:31:04 | Chestal | hi loop |
| 21:31:11 | Oooo0 | not talking to you |
| 21:31:15 | Oooo0 | you cheat :) |
| 21:31:16 | Widget | Hello, Oooo0. |
| 21:31:16 | Chestal | heh :-) |
| 21:31:23 | almogaver | hola Oooo0 |
| 21:31:26 | Oooo0 | nice patch for akira's patch |
| 21:31:28 | Chestal | OoooO: of course I do, but you knew that already |
| 21:31:31 | Widget | Olà, Oooo0. |
| 21:31:51 | Oooo0 | i prefer the classic control panel |
| 21:31:57 | jzaun | Any word on when CVS will function again? |
| 21:32:09 | almogaver | jzaun: ok, i respect ur choose |
| 21:32:19 | Widget | Oooo0: Me too. |
| 21:32:25 | Widget | Chestal: Oh, yes, something I noticed with your patch. |
| 21:32:34 | Chestal | jzaun: 1.8? it works as good as it used to |
| 21:32:38 | Widget | Chestal: If you set the text size to small, and then back to large, and then restart BZFlag.... |
| 21:32:45 | Widget | Chestal: The text in the Control Panel is also huge. |
| 21:33:00 | Chestal | Widget: hmm, the text settign affects text in scoreboard and control panel |
| 21:33:07 | Chestal | however, it should change on the fly, strange |
| 21:33:10 | Chestal | WIdget: which resolution? |
| 21:33:17 | jzaun | Chestal: Just checked ou a new copy... it compiles but as soon as I run bin/bzflag is segfaults |
| 21:33:21 | Widget | Chestal: 1280x1024. |
| 21:33:27 | Oooo0 | if i change the text size, nothing happens |
| 21:33:31 | Chestal | jzaun: g++ 3.1? |
| 21:33:40 | Widget | Chestal: Before, with the large text (Unpatched) the text in the control panel was not as large as it has been made by the patch. |
| 21:33:47 | jzaun | Chestal: 2.96 |
| 21:34:00 | Chestal | Widget: yes, I changed the calculatin of the text sizes a little |
| 21:34:08 | almogaver | jzaun: gcc 2.96 is big shit |
| 21:34:09 | Chestal | it might still need some work for some resolutions |
| 21:34:15 | almogaver | jzaun: that's not stable realease |
| 21:34:23 | almogaver | jzaun: use 2.95 of 3.1 instead |
| 21:34:26 | Chestal | jzaun: uh, there is no 2.96, it must be redheat |
| 21:34:34 | Widget | Chestal: Also.... why can't we just use Akira's original patch, which lets you edit the translucency of the panel and radar? That was wonderful. |
| 21:34:38 | jzaun | almogaver: has worked for months.. Mandrake |
| 21:34:39 | Chestal | that is a bastard release and broken |
| 21:34:52 | almogaver | jzaun: i know, i use mandrake too |
| 21:34:53 | Oooo0 | you still can widget |
| 21:35:05 | almogaver | jzaun: most of time it works but some others... uff |
| 21:35:06 | Chestal | which doesn't mean thre is som eproblem with the code, but I woudl be very skeptical with 2.96 |
| 21:35:23 | Widget | Oooo0: I know, but why do we need black around the control panel and radar? |
| 21:35:26 | jzaun | I'll try to update it... almogaver, how much you know about MandrakeUpdate? |
| 21:35:34 | Chestal | Widget: becuase tha tis not enough for everyone. The new patch just gives you oen additional feature, switch to the old HUD |
| 21:35:48 | Chestal | Widget: I cannot play with e6, even with akira's patch |
| 21:35:49 | Widget | Ah... well, one thing I liked about the old HUD was. |
| 21:36:15 | Widget | Chestal: One thing I liked about the old HUD was that one could see the number of people on each team without scores on, just by glancing to the right. |
| 21:36:21 | Chestal | Widget: so, you say that at 1280x1024 and big fonts, text is too big in control panel but ok in scoreboard? |
| 21:36:28 | almogaver | jzaun: i use the "software manager" but i've slow connection |
| 21:36:41 | Widget | is away: Eep! Must run! |
| 21:36:48 | almogaver | jzaun: so i usually try to got the CDs which some magazines gift |
| 21:36:49 | jzaun | almogaver: So do I, just the damb thing segfaults on launch now :-( |
| 21:36:50 | Chestal | Widget: actually, that is a feature which I never really used |
| 21:37:18 | Chestal | jzaun: 1.8 doesn't work with 3.1, either, when I have time, I will try to debug it. I don't know if it has the same cuase, though |
| 21:37:22 | almogaver | gcc -v |
| 21:37:22 | almogaver | Reading specs from /usr//bin/../lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/2.96/specs |
| 21:37:22 | almogaver | gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Mandrake Linux 8.1 2.96-0.62mdk) |
| 21:37:25 | almogaver | that's my gcc |
| 21:37:25 | DougHeck | hmm |
| 21:37:28 | | yes, DougHeck? |
| 21:37:28 | DougHeck | ibot? |
| 21:37:34 | almogaver | it allways worked with bzflag |
| 21:37:42 | Chestal | 2.96 does not exist |
| 21:37:49 | almogaver | but sometimes with other programs it doesn't work |
| 21:38:00 | jzaun | Chestal: What yah think I should downgrade, or wait? it worked with my gcc up till ogg sound stuff |
| 21:38:33 | Chestal | jzaun: well, maybe the changed which wil happen to make it work with a compliant compiler liek 3.1 will make it work with 2.96, too |
| 21:38:44 | Chestal | jzaun: but it's a fact that 2.96 is broken |
| 21:38:44 | T-34 | hello everybody! |
| 21:38:47 | arathorn | TTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!! |
| 21:38:51 | arathorn | wellcome |
| 21:38:56 | almogaver | hi SATAN, T-34 |
| 21:38:57 | T-34 | hello |
| 21:39:00 | Oooo0 | hi T |
| 21:39:01 | T-34 | Almoooooooooo |
| 21:39:10 | Chestal | the redhat guys must have been smoking somethig very strange when they decided to release that non-version |
| 21:39:11 | T-34 | I don't speak with CPU's |
| 21:39:23 | T-34 | so I don't speak with you o0o0o0o0 |
| 21:39:49 | DougHeck | bah |
| 21:39:49 | jzaun | Chestal: ok... I'll update :-) |
| 21:39:57 | jzaun | bbiab |
| 21:39:57 | DougHeck | mu monitor is a mac monitor |
| 21:40:02 | DougHeck | wont work... |
| 21:40:02 | DougHeck | bummer |
| 21:40:14 | almogaver | yes Chestal, and mandrake (and maybe other redhat-based) did the same :( |
| 21:40:17 | Oooo0 | no bytes here T |
| 21:40:25 | almogaver | mplayer, for example, refuses to be compiled with 2.96 |
| 21:40:42 | T-34 | Only K o0o0o |
| 21:40:47 | Chestal | I had problerms with some of my C++ code and 2.96, too |
| 21:40:48 | T-34 | or Gb |
| 21:40:50 | Chestal | very annoying |
| 21:41:02 | T-34 | anyway nice programming |
| 21:41:20 | Chestal | 2.95 is mising a lot with respect to the C++ standard, but at least it's no half-baked versin with some new features thrown in which do not work correctly |
| 21:41:26 | T-34 | perhaps it's better if, from time to time your players kill a teammate |
| 21:41:34 | almogaver | 3.1 is good option |
| 21:41:40 | almogaver | it makes faster executables |
| 21:41:43 | Chestal | T-34: when they played us, they must have had different programming |
| 21:42:04 | T-34 | Chestal: I never saw something like that |
| 21:42:06 | almogaver | i'm waiting it'll be included in Gentoo to move to it |
| 21:42:20 | T-34 | Chestal I stay a while watching the game |
| 21:42:27 | T-34 | It was incredible |
| 21:42:51 | Chestal | T-34: well, our cheats beat the bots :-) |
| 21:42:56 | T-34 | movement from corners and shooting in no time and immediatly they were back |
| 21:42:57 | almogaver | i tried Gentoo with gcc 2.95 and for example kde 3 if faster on gentoo than kde 2 on mandrake |
| 21:43:01 | T-34 | I never saw that |
| 21:43:21 | T-34 | always the right angle with 3 rico's |
| 21:43:44 | T-34 | and never kill a teammate |
| 21:43:57 | T-34 | and it was something else |
| 21:44:27 | T-34 | I never so a player waiting after a corner when he's flag is near the other base |
| 21:44:37 | T-34 | well I saw yesterday |
| 21:44:51 | T-34 | anyway good programmer |
| 21:45:58 | Chestal | T-34: hmm, I didn't understand that sentence with corner and base |
| 21:46:44 | almogaver | me too |
| 21:46:47 | T-34 | well |
| 21:46:51 | almogaver | i don't understand what you mean |
| 21:47:00 | T-34 | their flag were near our base |
| 21:47:17 | T-34 | it's a long story |
| 21:47:25 | T-34 | and I can't tell you right now |
| 21:47:44 | Oooo0 | ciao |
| 21:47:47 | T-34 | I'm pretty sure there was CPU's this is the idea |
| 21:48:19 | T-34 | I don't know how I can finp their IP's |
| 21:48:23 | Chestal | well, at least you did score |
| 21:48:29 | T-34 | to check from where did they play |
| 21:49:20 | T-34 | Chestal: If you look at their score matches you'll see that they always won with high score at 1 or 0 |
| 21:49:34 | DougHeck | cheat? |
| 21:49:35 | T-34 | only the last game against you were lost |
| 21:49:37 | T-34 | at 0 |
| 21:49:57 | T-34 | This was my feeling |
| 21:50:01 | Chestal | well, taht means that they're vulnerable, as are the Moles |
| 21:50:18 | T-34 | or that means they programmed to lose |
| 21:50:29 | DougHeck | ? |
| 21:50:35 | DougHeck | what are you talking about? |
| 21:50:38 | DougHeck | robots? |
| 21:52:32 | Chestal | hmm, I'd liek to check something |
| 21:52:41 | Chestal | can someone please send 2 bz messages to me? |
| 21:53:11 | DougHeck | ok |
| 21:53:41 | DougHeck | is the web site down? |
| 21:53:46 | Chestal | no, works for me |
| 21:53:50 | DougHeck | hmm |
| 21:53:52 | DougHeck | ah |
| 21:53:54 | DougHeck | its me |
| 21:53:59 | DougHeck | dumb windows |
| 21:54:23 | jpablo_ | lala, galeon is the best browser outthere. |
| 21:54:40 | DougHeck | lala, it ot for windows? |
| 21:54:55 | jpablo_ | i don't think so. |
| 21:55:10 | T-34 | Chestal I send two messages |
| 21:55:11 | jpablo_ | Chestal: i just sent you two msgs. |
| 21:55:13 | DougHeck | hehy |
| 21:55:16 | DougHeck | lol |
| 21:55:27 | Chestal | ok, no more mesasges please :-) |
| 21:55:38 | DougHeck | he asked for 2 not 4.... |
| 21:55:44 | DougHeck | ;) |
| 21:56:09 | T-34 | ok and I send 2 |
| 21:56:14 | T-34 | ;) |
| 21:56:25 | DougHeck | lol |
| 21:56:32 | bryjen | lets see, ask for 2 messages in a channel with 20 users... how many messages do you get ;) |
| 21:56:52 | | DougHeck: huh? |
| 21:56:52 | DougHeck | ibot 2x20 |
| 21:56:55 | DougHeck | bah |
| 21:57:03 | | wish i knew, dougheck |
| 21:57:03 | DougHeck | ibot what is 2 times 20 |
| 21:57:08 | DougHeck | lol |
| 21:57:19 | | 40 |
| 21:57:19 | Chestal | ibot: 2 * 20 |
| 21:57:26 | DougHeck | ah |
| 21:58:12 | bryjen | you must use the atesrik.... asterki... that start thingy! |
| 21:58:22 | DougHeck | lol |
| 21:58:24 | bryjen | uh, star that is |
| 21:58:29 | DougHeck | thats me password too |
| 21:58:32 | DougHeck | ********** |
| 21:58:58 | DougHeck | ;) |
| 22:01:19 | jpablo_ | Chestal: i got two replays from you. |
| 22:01:55 | Chestal | japblo: yes, I was testign somethign about the 'replied'-icon |
| 22:03:31 | jpablo_ | humm, why don't you just use plain e-mail ? |
| 22:04:24 | T-34 | Chestal I received that 2 BZmess too |
| 22:08:01 | bryjen | ack. i have reaaaaly old bzmessages. |
| 22:11:03 | Patlabor221 | whoah mass exodus |
| 22:16:26 | Chestal | heh SKipp, we should have a match ULT vs. Moles |
| 22:20:05 | Chestal | but I must go to bed now, cu |
| 22:20:49 | jpablo | bye. |
| 22:20:52 | arathorn | cya chestal |
| 22:21:01 | T-34 | bye Chestal |
| 22:21:03 | arathorn | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:21:04 | bzbot | Red: 4 players, score: -15 | Green: 3 players, score: 36 | |
| 22:21:05 | Patlabor221 | cya |
| 22:21:19 | arathorn | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:21:20 | bzbot | rover (Green):3 (22 wins, 19 losses). too young to die (Red):-17 (27 wins, 44 losses). [meq] freelancer (Red):12 (90 wins, 78 losses). aadrar (Red):-31 (32 wins, 63 losses). Wingding (Red):7 (86 wins, 79 losses). DeadMeat (Green):-22 (115 wins, 137 losses). [TLZ] Ajax (Green):27 (167 wins, 140 losses). @mb (Purple):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). @@ (Purple):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). |
| 22:21:39 | Patlabor221 | ouch don't look like red was doin well there |
| 22:23:10 | Skipp | Hey chestal |
| 22:23:58 | T-34 | Bye all |
| 22:24:04 | Skipp | bye |
| 22:24:13 | jpablo | bye T |
| 22:24:28 | T-34 | Skipp:night kiss to Nico |
| 22:24:34 | Skipp | lol |
| 22:24:44 | arathorn | cya all |
| 22:24:51 | Skipp | bye |
| 22:27:28 | | chestal was last seen on #bzflag 7 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: but I must go to bed now, cu [Mon Jul 8 23:20:05 2002] |
| 22:27:28 | Widget | ibot: seen chestal |
| 22:27:54 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:27:55 | bzbot | Red: 4 players, score: -13 | Green: 4 players, score: 34 | |
| 22:30:58 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:30:59 | bzbot | Red: 4 players, score: -12 | Green: 4 players, score: 33 | |
| 22:37:19 | jpablo | pragma_: sucks. |
| 22:37:28 | DougHeck | ? |
| 22:37:50 | pragma_ | jpablo: sucks. |
| 22:38:14 | DougHeck | everyone: sucks |
| 22:38:33 | Patlabor221 | well only if she buys dinner |
| 22:38:37 | jpablo | DougHeck: sucks is like a hello in guglmty :-P |
| 22:38:40 | iLLf8d | I don't suck |
| 22:38:47 | iLLf8d | I don't blow either |
| 22:38:51 | DougHeck | heh |
| 22:39:00 | DougHeck | everyone but the important people sucks |
| 22:39:16 | iLLf8d | I tease =) |
| 22:39:31 | DougHeck | heh |
| 22:42:46 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:42:46 | bzbot | Red: 4 players, score: -11 | Green: 4 players, score: 32 | |
| 22:43:04 | iLLf8d | that a league match widget? |
| 22:43:14 | Widget | iLLf8d: No, league matches are all on 59000. |
| 22:51:22 | almogaver | hi |
| 22:51:48 | DougHeck | hihihi |
| 22:52:11 | DougHeck | ;) |
| 22:54:07 | DougHeck | pat? |
| 22:54:08 | DougHeck | er |
| 22:54:10 | DougHeck | Patlabor221? |
| 22:54:15 | DougHeck | you here? |
| 22:55:03 | DougHeck | hmm |
| 22:55:20 | Widget | I just decided to reformat my hard drive. |
| 22:55:25 | DougHeck | oh? |
| 22:55:26 | Widget | I don't need the stuff installed here. |
| 22:55:35 | DougHeck | just popped into your head? |
| 22:55:41 | DougHeck | heh |
| 22:55:42 | Widget | Yah. |
| 22:55:47 | Patlabor221 | I am here |
| 22:55:49 | Patlabor221 | now |
| 22:55:50 | DougHeck | ah |
| 22:55:51 | Patlabor221 | sorry |
| 22:55:55 | DougHeck | http://gibbscam.com/ |
| 22:55:59 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:55:59 | DougHeck | what is with it? |
| 22:56:05 | Patlabor221 | that's where I work |
| 22:56:08 | DougHeck | yea |
| 22:56:15 | DougHeck | Welcome to Microsoft® Windows NT® 4.0 Option Pack |
| 22:56:18 | Patlabor221 | we make software |
| 22:56:37 | DougHeck | you make the Microsoft® Windows NT® 4.0 Option Pack ? |
| 22:56:41 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 22:56:44 | DougHeck | oh |
| 22:56:49 | DougHeck | thats what the website says |
| 22:56:51 | DougHeck | ;) |
| 22:56:59 | Patlabor221 | put a www in front of it slick |
| 22:57:06 | DougHeck | oh |
| 22:57:14 | DougHeck | what is that page then? |
| 22:57:25 | DougHeck | aha |
| 22:57:28 | DougHeck | I see |
| 22:57:40 | Patlabor221 | the defaylt can't find a thing page |
| 22:57:47 | DougHeck | heh |
| 22:57:48 | Patlabor221 | our IS dept is full of idiots |
| 22:57:51 | DougHeck | lo |
| 22:57:53 | DougHeck | oh man |
| 22:57:56 | DougHeck | I got an email.... |
| 22:58:00 | DougHeck | you have to read it |
| 22:58:17 | Widget | No I don't. |
| 22:58:34 | DougHeck | so? |
| 22:58:39 | Widget | Hm.... we should all upload our pictures to the Wiki. |
| 22:58:41 | DougHeck | read it any way |
| 22:58:44 | DougHeck | hm |
| 22:58:45 | DougHeck | yea |
| 22:58:51 | DougHeck | and then past them on our tanks |
| 22:59:03 | DougHeck | ok |
| 22:59:08 | DougHeck | Patlabor221: check your email |
| 22:59:11 | DougHeck | ;) |
| 23:00:53 | Patlabor221 | I did |
| 23:01:03 | DougHeck | did you get it? |
| 23:01:06 | Patlabor221 | that's old |
| 23:01:17 | DougHeck | aw |
| 23:01:19 | DougHeck | really? |
| 23:01:23 | DougHeck | hmm |
| 23:01:30 | Widget | What was it? |
| 23:01:36 | Widget | /msg me it. |
| 23:01:50 | DougHeck | it must make its way through big companys |
| 23:01:52 | DougHeck | ok |
| 23:02:32 | Widget | Yah, that's old. |
| 23:02:35 | DougHeck | bah |
| 23:02:40 | DougHeck | must find new stuff |
| 23:02:47 | DougHeck | I get all the old stuff |
| 23:02:48 | DougHeck | ;) |
| 23:05:28 | DougHeck | ever read Six Engineers and a train? |
| 23:06:11 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 23:06:18 | DougHeck | ack |
| 23:11:52 | Widget | I probably won't be back here for a while. |
| 23:11:59 | Widget | Something's sure to go wrong with my install. |
| 23:11:59 | Patlabor221 | where you off ot? |
| 23:12:04 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 23:12:13 | Patlabor221 | like all my linux installs |
| 23:12:19 | DougHeck | hes reformatting his drive |
| 23:12:20 | Patlabor221 | finaly got it to work tho |
| 23:12:35 | Patlabor221 | not the one his OS is on I hope |
| 23:13:10 | Widget | I'm using an experimental LFS hint (so that you can install LFS without a new partition) and I'm getting all my packages from CVS, not the stable version. |
| 23:13:13 | Widget | So something is sure to go wrong. |
| 23:13:23 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 23:13:37 | Patlabor221 | are you asking for death? |
| 23:42:08 | Oooo0 | hi |
| 23:42:12 | FrootLoop | howdy |
| 23:42:20 | Oooo0 | all else asleep i gues |
| 23:42:26 | FrootLoop | hey jpablo, how does the team look tonight?? |
| 23:42:56 | jpablo | dunno, i'm not on the guglmty base. |
| 23:43:15 | jpablo | i'm off on my home for the summer. |
| 23:43:17 | Oooo0 | what is guglmty anyway? |
| 23:43:35 | jpablo | grupo de usuarios de gnu/linux de monterrey. |
| 23:43:46 | jpablo | GNU/Linux users groups of monterrey |
| 23:43:50 | Oooo0 | ahh, thanks, i was curious |
| 23:45:06 | jpablo | we have a strong bzflag tradition in our lug :-). |
| 23:45:31 | Oooo0 | cool :) |
| 23:46:26 | jpablo | hehe, i remembered back on the days when we played tetrinet, then i found bzflag and a week later all the lug was addict to it. |
| 23:46:41 | | Chestal was last seen on #bzflag 1 hours, 26 minutes and 36 seconds ago, saying: but I must go to bed now, cu [Mon Jul 8 23:20:05 2002] |
| 23:46:41 | FrootLoop | ibot: seen Chestal |
