| 00:00:27 | akira_ | then we need an index array as big as the quota is |
| 00:00:43 | akira_ | or better particles * vertices per particle |
| 00:01:09 | akira_ | ok ? |
| 00:01:29 | captain_proton | i see one big problem |
| 00:01:34 | akira_ | tell me |
| 00:01:44 | captain_proton | whenever a particle is born or one dies, you have to completely recompute the index array |
| 00:01:48 | akira_ | nope |
| 00:01:52 | akira_ | not true |
| 00:02:02 | captain_proton | how not? say one in the middle of the array dies |
| 00:02:03 | akira_ | whats the way the particles will be born or die ? |
| 00:02:12 | captain_proton | each particle has a TTL |
| 00:02:15 | captain_proton | and each emitter has a rate |
| 00:02:18 | akira_ | a what ? |
| 00:02:24 | captain_proton | time to live |
| 00:02:26 | akira_ | ok |
| 00:02:37 | akira_ | and how do you check the particle is dead ? |
| 00:03:01 | captain_proton | each tick it checks how much time has passed, removes dead particles, creates new ones |
| 00:03:39 | akira_ | so you go through all living particles and "update" the clock right ? |
| 00:03:51 | captain_proton | right |
| 00:04:19 | akira_ | :) |
| 00:04:43 | akira_ | you could then tell the particle to register its vertices in the indexarray |
| 00:05:01 | akira_ | and do not create or destroy any particles |
| 00:05:05 | akira_ | just mark them as dead |
| 00:05:17 | captain_proton | how does it know its position in the index array? |
| 00:05:31 | akira_ | you take 2 counters / pointers |
| 00:06:04 | captain_proton | so you recompute the index array every tick |
| 00:07:09 | akira_ | but you have to travers the particles always ... |
| 00:07:28 | akira_ | so its the same step .. |
| 00:08:08 | captain_proton | i'll think about it |
| 00:08:15 | akira_ | at the moment i am thinking about minimizing access |
| 00:08:16 | captain_proton | right now particles are not my primary focus |
| 00:08:22 | akira_ | captain_proton: perhaps true |
| 00:08:45 | captain_proton | i honestly haven't seen a performance hit |
| 00:09:03 | akira_ | if the particles are marked as dead you could jump very fast over dead particles ... |
| 00:09:24 | akira_ | the performance hit is just ... ONE call for the entire particle system ... |
| 00:09:31 | captain_proton | when you create new ones you get a potential quota*n access time |
| 00:09:44 | akira_ | when you create new ones ? |
| 00:09:53 | akira_ | you dont create new ones .. |
| 00:10:24 | akira_ | you create the p_array[quota] at birth time of the entire particlenode ... |
| 00:11:46 | akira_ | perhaps you could travers not the p_array for update the particles but the index_array .. |
| 00:12:17 | akira_ | from the index_array you can get to the particle and if time is not over nothing needs to be changed .. |
| 00:12:21 | akira_ | but ... |
| 00:12:49 | akira_ | if there is a dead beast ... |
| 00:12:54 | captain_proton | ok, when particles are born |
| 00:13:01 | captain_proton | you have to traverse to find a dead particle that you can use |
| 00:13:42 | akira_ | we could use a dead particle cache |
| 00:13:44 | akira_ | :)) |
| 00:13:49 | akira_ | a graveyard :))))) |
| 00:13:53 | akira_ | lets play frankestein |
| 00:13:57 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 00:13:58 | akira_ | aehn tankenstein :))))) |
| 00:14:48 | akira_ | but you have not only update their lifetime but also their position .. |
| 00:15:12 | captain_proton | yes |
| 00:15:14 | akira_ | so their is a lot of work to do for cpu ... |
| 00:15:29 | captain_proton | and i have them each modified by whatever affectors are attached to the system |
| 00:15:31 | akira_ | so a lot of memory is cached on the cahce |
| 00:16:08 | akira_ | so i think it should be possible the reorganize the p_array |
| 00:17:07 | akira_ | do bzflag such things like "use a display list to change state" ? |
| 00:17:34 | BZFlag | SceneNodeParticleSystem.cxx: In method `Particle::Particle()': |
| 00:17:35 | BZFlag | SceneNodeParticleSystem.cxx:45: call of overloaded `set(int, int)' is ambiguous |
| 00:17:35 | BZFlag | ../../include/SceneNode.h:182: candidates are: void SceneNodeVectorField<unsigned int>::set(const unsigned int *, unsigned int) |
| 00:17:35 | BZFlag | ../../include/SceneNode.h:197: void SceneNodeVectorField<unsigned int>::set(unsigned int, const unsigned int &) |
| 00:17:35 | BZFlag | SceneNodeParticleSystem.cxx: In method `void ParticleEmitter::createDirection(Vec3 &)': |
| 00:17:37 | BZFlag | SceneNodeParticleSystem.cxx:316: warning: unused variable `Real newangle' |
| 00:17:50 | captain_proton | BZFlag: as i said before, the gcc 2.7.2 fix breaks 2.95 |
| 00:18:05 | captain_proton | akira_: to my knowledge, the new version doesn't use display lists at all |
| 00:18:16 | akira_ | BZFlag: is that true ? |
| 00:18:29 | BZFlag | captain_proton: ahh. |
| 00:19:47 | akira_ | yes / no ? |
| 00:22:41 | akira_ | hello ? |
| 00:22:45 | akira_ | anyone here ? |
| 00:22:50 | captain_proton | hello |
| 00:22:50 | akira_ | i am so alone |
| 00:22:52 | akira_ | :)) |
| 00:22:59 | captain_proton | is about to go hand a newbie his ass in bz |
| 00:23:13 | akira_ | live ? |
| 00:23:23 | akira_ | may i be oberver ? :) |
| 00:23:39 | dinah | your not alone love ;) |
| 00:23:45 | akira_ | hehe |
| 00:23:56 | captain_proton | you can play |
| 00:24:02 | captain_proton | going to one: |
| 00:25:06 | dinah | eww the music on #WOPN sucks |
| 00:26:02 | BZFlag | fixed. (I think) |
| 00:26:11 | jacques_gone | mmmm particles |
| 00:27:00 | captain_proton | BZFlag: one.bzflag.org having problems |
| 00:27:02 | jacques | newbie? where? |
| 00:27:34 | jacques | i guess i am a newbie too |
| 00:28:08 | captain_proton | going to bzflag.ratshack.org if anybody wants to help ;) |
| 00:28:29 | akira_ | who is someone ? |
| 00:29:10 | akira_ | ah damn |
| 00:29:25 | akira_ | lost too much time talking to "vertex shader" proton :) |
| 00:29:47 | akira_ | have to finish my presentation |
| 00:29:49 | akira_ | args |
| 00:31:35 | jacques | i would help but there are ppl in my office :-) |
| 00:31:42 | jacques | at least i would try to help |
| 00:31:46 | akira_ | hehe :) |
| 00:33:31 | akira_ | ah damn |
| 00:33:52 | akira_ | i go home and try to get some sleep and finish the stuff in some hours |
| 00:34:00 | akira_ | good night good fight |
| 00:34:06 | tad_eating | moo |
| 00:34:09 | akira_ | my names jonny gomez and .. ah .. well .. |
| 00:34:15 | akira_ | wrong ... not mtv |
| 00:34:21 | tad_eating | heh |
| 00:34:45 | akira_ | cu captain_proton, perhaps i am thinking about the particle system again |
| 00:34:49 | akira_ | bye by to all |
| 00:34:56 | tad_eating | cya |
| 00:36:54 | pragma | is away: I'm busy |
| 00:37:08 | pragma | is away: gone |
| 00:37:19 | tad_eating | heh |
| 00:37:21 | tad_eating | sure |
| 00:40:20 | jacques | hmmm |
| 00:40:34 | jacques | i want to launch a small bzflag window observing captain_proton |
| 00:44:37 | pragma | is away: gone for good |
| 00:49:42 | captain_proton | hey all |
| 00:49:54 | captain_proton | 1.7 jzaun:5155 decks |
| 00:50:10 | captain_proton | come one, come all, i need some real competition |
| 00:55:09 | jacques | wish i could but I cant right now |
| 00:55:20 | tad_eating | oh? |
| 00:55:28 | jacques | working |
| 00:55:33 | tad_eating | yea |
| 00:55:43 | tad_eating | captain_proton: hmm |
| 00:55:47 | jacques | i love decks |
| 00:55:49 | tad_eating | guess I could go |
| 00:56:19 | jacques | does observer mode work in 1.7e6 ? |
| 00:56:26 | BZFlag | jacques: yes |
| 00:56:31 | jacques | i would like to observe captain_proton |
| 00:56:42 | BZFlag | @nick to get it. and the server needs -mo <n> |
| 00:57:10 | jacques | BZFlag: coolness, thanks. if it doesn't work I just assume the server is not allowing observres? |
| 00:59:08 | jacques | is there an arg to make the client not grab the cursor? so I can move the 640x480 window around? |
| 00:59:24 | dinah | pause |
| 01:00:42 | jacques | hmm, it looks like if observers are not allowed, it tells me the game is full :-( |
| 01:00:48 | tad_eating | bummer |
| 01:03:22 | jacques | i cant use that server from work anyway - some udp problem |
| 01:03:29 | jacques | tho other servers work |
| 01:04:27 | tad_eating | hmm |
| 01:08:57 | jacques | i can get killed but it does not tell me who killed me, and it does not show on their score from my perspective |
| 01:10:12 | captain_proton | eeeek |
| 01:10:19 | captain_proton | the superjump bug is TERRIBLE |
| 01:10:27 | captain_proton | i saw someone jump to the 4th tier deck |
| 01:10:35 | captain_proton | who wasn't cheating |
| 01:10:39 | jacques | superjump bug? |
| 01:10:44 | jacques | how does that work? |
| 01:10:47 | jacques | e6 only? |
| 01:11:47 | BZFlag | jacques: yes, the server will not let you connect if there is no -mo or if the max observers has been reached. |
| 01:12:27 | jacques | BZFlag: makes sense - game is "full" of observers because max observers is 0 |
| 01:12:35 | BZFlag | jacques: observer works on old servers, but the server does not know you are an observer. |
| 01:13:07 | jacques | BZFlag: so I can still get killed on old servers? |
| 01:13:27 | captain_proton | e6 only to my knowledge |
| 01:13:33 | captain_proton | and it only seems to have appeared this week (?) |
| 01:13:43 | captain_proton | though i haven't been playing much 1.7 |
| 01:14:29 | jacques | captain_proton: how could the bug appear some time after the release? |
| 01:14:42 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 01:14:56 | jacques | is it e6 client and e6 srever only and servers have been upgraded more recently ? |
| 01:15:02 | tad_eating | what is superjump? |
| 01:16:05 | captain_proton | i don't know - only just witnessed it with e6/e6 |
| 01:16:11 | captain_proton | and my client wasn't doing it |
| 01:16:17 | tad_eating | hmm |
| 01:17:31 | jacques | tad_eating: AFAICT it's a bug that lets ppl jump really high |
| 01:17:32 | captain_proton | YAAY! |
| 01:17:40 | BZFlag | jacques: yes |
| 01:17:43 | jacques | but I don't know how it's triggered |
| 01:17:50 | captain_proton | has yakitori chicken & a 4-pc sushi |
| 01:17:55 | jacques | or if it can be intentionally explioted |
| 01:18:25 | captain_proton | the person who it was the worst on (4th deck) was the first time he played |
| 01:18:30 | captain_proton | nothing intentional about it |
| 01:18:36 | BZFlag | you could intentionally jump as high as you like if you were cheating. |
| 01:18:37 | tad_eating | yuk |
| 01:18:42 | jacques | it could actually be a curse if you were intending to jump a certain distance and instead jumped 4x as high |
| 01:18:51 | tad_eating | ouch |
| 01:18:52 | tad_eating | hmm |
| 01:18:58 | captain_proton | BZFlag: yes, but these people had straight e6 |
| 01:19:02 | BZFlag | wild. |
| 01:19:03 | tad_eating | hmm |
| 01:19:07 | tad_eating | wierd |
| 01:19:20 | jacques | what a strange bug |
| 01:19:20 | captain_proton | could it be an issue with the falling through decks fix? |
| 01:19:22 | | tad_eating: The salesman drove over the CPU board. |
| 01:19:22 | tad_eating | ibot excuse |
| 01:19:27 | tad_eating | aha! |
| 01:19:30 | BZFlag | try jumping from the ground and from off a box and right from the edge of a box and see if that makes a difference. |
| 01:19:37 | captain_proton | clamping updates to 1/4 second |
| 01:19:37 | BZFlag | captain_proton: could be. |
| 01:19:59 | tad_eating | hmm |
| 01:20:01 | tad_eating | well |
| 01:20:06 | tad_eating | hope you keep it.. |
| 01:20:13 | tad_eating | we need a superjump flag.... |
| 01:20:15 | tad_eating | :) |
| 01:20:32 | captain_proton | later i'll ask this guy what his framerate was |
| 01:20:34 | captain_proton | might give us a clue |
| 01:20:37 | tad_eating | so when you get jump flag, on a jumping enabled server.... you go high! voom! |
| 01:20:37 | jacques | that sounds like a fun and useful flag |
| 01:20:50 | tad_eating | zip! |
| 01:20:54 | tad_eating | bang! |
| 01:21:01 | tad_eating | wiz! |
| 01:21:04 | tad_eating | crash! |
| 01:21:17 | captain_proton | ok, but i want to see your tank crumple when you hit the ground ;) |
| 01:21:26 | tad_eating | lol |
| 01:21:27 | tad_eating | xool |
| 01:21:28 | tad_eating | cool |
| 01:21:50 | captain_proton | could use the SR crunch sound |
| 01:21:52 | tad_eating | and that would use particles of tank flying throught the air? |
| 01:21:57 | jacques | well if we have damage like I wante months ago... L-D |
| 01:21:57 | tad_eating | :) |
| 01:22:01 | jacques | :-D |
| 01:22:02 | tad_eating | lol |
| 01:22:05 | tad_eating | I want damage |
| 01:22:12 | captain_proton | watches jacques' turret fall off |
| 01:22:12 | tad_eating | like a slowpaced version |
| 01:22:15 | tad_eating | hehe |
| 01:22:16 | jacques | LOL |
| 01:22:24 | dinah | so has condon actually spoken today? |
| 01:22:24 | jacques | decals for bullet holes |
| 01:22:30 | tad_eating | watches jacques tank start running |
| 01:22:42 | tad_eating | fast |
| 01:22:47 | jacques | and have health flags for repair |
| 01:22:52 | tad_eating | yea yea!! |
| 01:23:01 | jacques | which turn a different collor on radar when you are damaged |
| 01:23:06 | tad_eating | hmm |
| 01:23:11 | tad_eating | hmmm |
| 01:23:13 | jacques | like antidote flags do |
| 01:23:24 | tad_eating | and a trail of tank parts behind the tank.... |
| 01:23:29 | jacques | yes!! |
| 01:23:29 | dinah | supposes not |
| 01:23:36 | tad_eating | lol |
| 01:23:40 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 01:23:40 | tad_eating | ibot botsmack! |
| 01:23:42 | jacques | dmage means we can ave area effect weps |
| 01:23:46 | tad_eating | yea |
| 01:23:50 | tad_eating | hmm |
| 01:23:59 | tad_eating | tooooo much cyberstrike? |
| 01:24:02 | tad_eating | :) |
| 01:24:15 | jacques | :-) |
| 01:24:24 | | i don't know, dinah |
| 01:24:24 | dinah | ibot: karma for dinah?? |
| 01:24:26 | jacques | im still trying to turn it into the pc battlezone game |
| 01:24:30 | | dinah has karma of 20 |
| 01:24:30 | dinah | ibot: karma for dinah |
| 01:24:41 | dinah | my word |
| 01:24:48 | tad_busy | HEY WIDGET!!!!! |
| 01:24:50 | tad_busy | er |
| 01:24:53 | | captain_proton: sorry... |
| 01:24:53 | captain_proton | ibot must have a crush on you |
| 01:24:55 | tad_busy | hes not in here yet |
| 01:25:14 | tad_busy | goes and sulks in the corner |
| 01:25:37 | tad_busy | me, a brain the size of a planet, playing bzflag.... |
| 01:25:47 | captain_proton | BZFlag: the guy who was really superjumping had about 1 fps |
| 01:25:52 | tad_busy | ouch |
| 01:25:57 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:26:05 | tad_busy | let me change my fps... |
| 01:26:06 | tad_busy | hehe |
| 01:26:08 | dinah | lol DONT PANIC |
| 01:26:08 | tad_busy | ;) |
| 01:26:16 | tad_busy | heh |
| 01:26:16 | captain_proton | i've got my money on the fall-through clamp as the culprit |
| 01:26:25 | tad_busy | wanna bet? |
| 01:26:28 | tad_busy | how much? |
| 01:26:29 | jacques | 1fps lol |
| 01:26:38 | jacques | must be softrendering |
| 01:26:40 | tad_busy | 1 fps is like a slideshow |
| 01:26:43 | tad_busy | :) |
| 01:26:50 | tad_busy | X-) |
| 01:26:55 | jacques | if he can playt at that rate he is incredible |
| 01:26:58 | tad_busy | >-D |
| 01:27:00 | tad_busy | yea |
| 01:27:04 | tad_busy | or he cheats... |
| 01:27:04 | captain_proton | first the woodpecker, now this |
| 01:27:07 | captain_proton | that code is just a problem |
| 01:27:19 | tad_busy | lol |
| 01:27:24 | jacques | i dont like anything less than 30, and my home machine averages like 70-80 |
| 01:27:28 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:27:37 | tad_busy | maybe his tank forgot to fall.... |
| 01:27:44 | tad_busy | and it flew |
| 01:27:47 | captain_proton | i can't play anything less than 30, and 40-60 is uncomfortable ;) |
| 01:27:57 | tad_busy | lol |
| 01:28:07 | tad_busy | spoiled.... |
| 01:28:32 | tad_busy | maybe I have read the whole series of books in 1 day.... |
| 01:28:34 | captain_proton | yep |
| 01:28:41 | tad_busy | >:) |
| 01:29:11 | tad_busy | =:-} |
| 01:29:20 | tad_busy | bah |
| 01:29:26 | tad_busy | its 9:30 here |
| 01:29:30 | tad_busy | again |
| 01:29:48 | tad_busy | as it has been for the past 10000 years.... |
| 01:30:08 | captain_proton | BZFlag: unfortunately, i think the superjump bug alone demands an e8 |
| 01:30:14 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:30:20 | tad_busy | thats terrible |
| 01:30:48 | tad_busy | hope you fix (ahem) 1.7e6/e7/e8/e9/e10/e11 |
| 01:30:54 | tad_busy | etc... |
| 01:31:00 | tad_busy | :X |
| 01:31:03 | captain_proton | haha |
| 01:31:10 | tad_busy | :) |
| 01:31:16 | tad_busy | oh well.... |
| 01:31:26 | tad_busy | any new CVS mods since yesterday? |
| 01:31:32 | captain_proton | yep |
| 01:31:34 | tad_busy | for 1.8? |
| 01:31:44 | tad_busy | what kind? |
| 01:32:08 | captain_proton | i'm not sure if its complete, but clients and servers negociate flags |
| 01:32:18 | tad_busy | oh? |
| 01:32:21 | tad_busy | cool |
| 01:32:37 | captain_proton | will allow us to add flags between minor versions =) |
| 01:32:44 | tad_busy | but it needs a server.... right? |
| 01:32:51 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:32:52 | tad_busy | yea |
| 01:33:02 | tad_busy | until we have 40 flags to pick up... |
| 01:33:16 | tad_busy | and then I would like to hold 5 flags at once |
| 01:33:16 | tad_busy | :) |
| 01:33:19 | captain_proton | and if a server uses a flag a client doesn't know about, the client won't connect |
| 01:33:24 | tad_busy | ah |
| 01:33:26 | tad_busy | cool |
| 01:33:28 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:33:29 | jacques | cooool |
| 01:33:46 | tad_busy | but why not have the client update itself off the server? |
| 01:33:50 | tad_busy | hmm? |
| 01:34:01 | tad_busy | it would be really nice.... |
| 01:34:13 | captain_proton | because someone could put up a malicious server that would download code to the client |
| 01:34:18 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:34:23 | captain_proton | plus binary patches are a pain |
| 01:34:23 | tad_busy | good point.... |
| 01:34:30 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:34:34 | tad_busy | oh well.... |
| 01:34:50 | tad_busy | sulks and lays face down in the sand |
| 01:35:10 | jacques | this is getting exciting again |
| 01:35:16 | tad_busy | heh |
| 01:35:37 | jacques | i remember when we were talking about water |
| 01:35:44 | tad_busy | water? |
| 01:35:51 | tad_busy | as in H2O? |
| 01:35:55 | jacques | yeah yu could drive into it |
| 01:35:59 | jacques | but not fire |
| 01:36:02 | tad_busy | oh COOOOL!!! |
| 01:36:16 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:36:17 | captain_proton | fire... |
| 01:36:18 | tad_busy | could you tank float? |
| 01:36:24 | tad_busy | in deeper? |
| 01:36:29 | jacques | your tank would drive on the bottom |
| 01:36:30 | tad_busy | or would it sink... |
| 01:36:35 | tad_busy | oh |
| 01:36:41 | jacques | but you could not fire weps while in the water |
| 01:36:43 | tad_busy | and then blow up after 10 secs. |
| 01:36:46 | tad_busy | :) |
| 01:36:56 | jacques | maybe - theere should be a time limit true |
| 01:37:09 | tad_busy | Mmmmm |
| 01:37:19 | tad_busy | and of corse a "snorkal flag" |
| 01:37:20 | captain_proton | dissolves some more wasabi |
| 01:37:42 | tad_busy | says WASSSAABIII!!! |
| 01:37:51 | jacques | wasaaaaaaabiiii |
| 01:38:16 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ooh, nice commit message |
| 01:38:18 | captain_proton | "error on error" |
| 01:38:31 | tad_busy | grins and tosses the wasabi to captain_proton and finds out it sticks to walls... |
| 01:38:32 | BZFlag | bzfs segfaults on start with just "bzflag -c" now. |
| 01:38:37 | dinah | sci fi wassabi by cibo matto is the best cibo matto song ever |
| 01:38:38 | BZFlag | captain_proton: you like that huh? |
| 01:38:38 | tad_busy | -c? |
| 01:38:44 | tad_busy | what does -c do? |
| 01:38:46 | captain_proton | -c = ctf |
| 01:38:51 | tad_busy | ah |
| 01:39:05 | captain_proton | we really need to fix the gamestyle bit |
| 01:39:14 | tad_busy | heh |
| 01:39:15 | tad_busy | very |
| 01:39:17 | tad_busy | quite |
| 01:39:18 | tad_busy | much |
| 01:39:21 | tad_busy | improve |
| 01:39:22 | tad_busy | it |
| 01:39:23 | captain_proton | 'time synced to server' should not be a game style |
| 01:39:24 | tad_busy | lots |
| 01:39:57 | captain_proton | whoooo |
| 01:40:13 | captain_proton | the funny thing about wasabi is when you look at soy sauce, you can tell there's some but you can't tell how much |
| 01:40:14 | tad_busy | bah @ IE |
| 01:40:21 | tad_busy | lol |
| 01:40:23 | captain_proton | airs out his mouth |
| 01:40:26 | tad_busy | true true |
| 01:40:31 | jacques | heh |
| 01:40:45 | tad_busy | That is correct! that is correct!!! |
| 01:42:48 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:42:54 | tad_busy | lame huh? |
| 01:43:56 | dinah | how about how brittian is the best! |
| 01:44:05 | tad_busy | just ate asian food with TONS of hot sauce on it |
| 01:44:19 | tad_busy | yells bah @ brttian |
| 01:44:29 | captain_proton | i bet my mouth is burning more ;) |
| 01:45:05 | pragma | is away: REALLY AWAY |
| 01:45:19 | tad_busy | pragma: sure |
| 01:45:24 | tad_busy | how far away? |
| 01:45:34 | tad_busy | captain_proton: hmm |
| 01:45:39 | patlabor221 | wow, somehow I figured out my lunux problem |
| 01:45:49 | tad_busy | Mmmm? |
| 01:45:53 | tad_busy | what problem? |
| 01:46:04 | patlabor221 | after I did the kernel update it just didn't like one of my drives |
| 01:46:08 | dinah | wonders why tad wont just be friends |
| 01:46:13 | patlabor221 | I took it out of the chain and now its fine |
| 01:46:14 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:46:34 | tad_busy | is friends with dinah, as long as he stay out of his hair |
| 01:46:46 | patlabor221 | do I dare try to install the nvidia drivers |
| 01:46:47 | dinah | who is this "he" |
| 01:46:54 | tad_busy | er |
| 01:46:56 | tad_busy | she |
| 01:47:00 | patlabor221 | you don't sound like a he |
| 01:47:08 | tad_busy | who is dinah? |
| 01:47:26 | dinah | lots of men named dinah... <rolls eyes> |
| 01:47:31 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yes, i will guide you |
| 01:47:43 | patlabor221 | help me obiwan your my only hope |
| 01:47:58 | tad_busy | slaps dinah with a large trout named joe |
| 01:48:03 | captain_proton | download the .tar.gz for both _GLX and _kernel |
| 01:48:05 | patlabor221 | hell you can ssh into the machine if you want |
| 01:48:07 | tad_busy | patlabor221: USE THE FORCE!!!! |
| 01:48:22 | patlabor221 | I try to move the cursor with my mind and it don't go |
| 01:48:26 | tad_busy | hmm |
| 01:48:56 | tad_busy | patlabor221: DONT TRY TOO HARD!!! OR YOU MIGHT BREAK IT.... |
| 01:49:08 | tad_busy | patlabor221: er IT = BRAIN!!!! |
| 01:49:29 | patlabor221 | I'm geting a warning that I am using kernel-2.4.18-3 but I have 2.4.18-5 installed |
| 01:49:34 | patlabor221 | it wasnt's me to reboot |
| 01:49:48 | patlabor221 | mouse just flew out the window, I think it was hungry |
| 01:49:51 | patlabor221 | and I'm outa cheese |
| 01:50:09 | captain_proton | patlabor221: warning where? |
| 01:50:34 | patlabor221 | in gnome, from the RH alert notification tool |
| 01:50:55 | captain_proton | whilst doing what? |
| 01:51:01 | patlabor221 | just starting x |
| 01:51:07 | patlabor221 | I was looking for the browser |
| 01:51:08 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:51:09 | captain_proton | ignore it |
| 01:52:49 | dinah | and in london... |
| 01:53:08 | patlabor221 | you have warm beer |
| 01:53:23 | patlabor221 | and no milk with your cookeis |
| 01:53:27 | dinah | dinah contemplates a carrear in porn |
| 01:53:43 | dinah | ;-0 |
| 01:54:19 | patlabor221 | cp: DLing files now |
| 01:54:32 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:54:35 | captain_proton | dinah: what do you look like? |
| 01:54:45 | dinah | http://www.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=playerinfo&id=189&sessionid=7e6aace8e9d682b72ab84b86a04ce60f |
| 01:55:08 | taD_gone | bah |
| 01:55:26 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:55:29 | captain_proton | yeah, you could swing that |
| 01:55:31 | taD_gone | I hate MICROSOFT!!! |
| 01:55:32 | patlabor221 | wow your hot D :) |
| 01:55:39 | taD_gone | BAH 999999 times at microsoft |
| 01:55:44 | taD_gone | heh |
| 01:56:06 | taD_gone | but windows runs operation flashpoint.... |
| 01:56:19 | taD_gone | once they get directx 8.1 on linux.... |
| 01:56:28 | taD_gone | GOOD bye windows!!!! |
| 01:56:33 | taD_gone | :) |
| 01:56:56 | dinah | captain_proton: you think? |
| 01:57:05 | patlabor221 | cp: crap got the wrong files, I want the upi386 kernel right |
| 01:57:18 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you want the generic .tar.gz |
| 01:57:20 | captain_proton | not rpm |
| 01:57:44 | taD_gone | bah @ real player |
| 01:57:57 | patlabor221 | I don't see that for the kernel, I got it for the glx |
| 01:58:02 | patlabor221 | got it |
| 01:58:02 | captain_proton | its there, somewhere |
| 01:58:07 | taD_gone | bah @ everything in the world |
| 01:58:18 | captain_proton | dinah: yeah, sure |
| 01:58:32 | patlabor221 | cp: ok got em |
| 01:58:38 | dinah | captain_proton: bloody accept the file im sending... |
| 01:58:41 | taD_gone | lies face down in the dirt |
| 01:58:47 | captain_proton | eek |
| 01:58:54 | captain_proton | i lost all my setting so autoaccept is off |
| 01:59:17 | patlabor221 | ohh he's not gone |
| 01:59:21 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | who? |
| 01:59:25 | dinah | wonders if he still thinks so |
| 01:59:25 | patlabor221 | you |
| 01:59:28 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | me? |
| 01:59:31 | patlabor221 | you |
| 01:59:35 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | me? |
| 01:59:40 | captain_proton | can't see your face that well in that pic |
| 02:00:00 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | brain is fuzzy after driking tap water for 21 weeks |
| 02:00:10 | captain_proton | and at least for me, porn doesn't work if the person is ugly |
| 02:00:18 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | porn? |
| 02:00:23 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | ugh |
| 02:00:25 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | yuk |
| 02:00:26 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | ack |
| 02:00:30 | dinah | not saying im ugly are you :-( |
| 02:00:37 | captain_proton | dinah: no |
| 02:00:51 | captain_proton | dinah: i already said you could swing it, didn't i? |
| 02:00:55 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | dinah: speak like yoda yes? |
| 02:01:08 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | bah |
| 02:01:16 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | and monkeys fly out of my nose |
| 02:01:16 | patlabor221 | have to end all her sentences in "mmmmmm?" |
| 02:01:18 | jacques | porn in bzflag? |
| 02:01:20 | dinah | dint you take english? thats not a dangeling participle |
| 02:01:21 | jacques | huh? |
| 02:01:32 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | oh |
| 02:01:44 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | patlabor221: sorry I thought see did.... |
| 02:01:49 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | she* |
| 02:01:52 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | er he |
| 02:01:55 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | or he |
| 02:01:57 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | what ever |
| 02:01:57 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:02:03 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | I am off to bed.... |
| 02:02:05 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | cya |
| 02:02:05 | patlabor221 | you hve a problem wiht that word don't you? |
| 02:02:09 | dinah | considers castrating tad |
| 02:02:09 | captain_proton | i don't remember who it was that made the porn mountain images |
| 02:02:10 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | bye! |
| 02:02:16 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | cya |
| 02:02:18 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | bye! |
| 02:02:20 | patlabor221 | cP: ok the files are here, gunzipem? |
| 02:02:21 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | cya |
| 02:02:23 | patlabor221 | bye |
| 02:02:23 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | bye |
| 02:02:25 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | cya |
| 02:02:25 | captain_proton | patlabor221: yep |
| 02:02:27 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | bye |
| 02:02:56 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | nobody can spell |
| 02:03:03 | jacques | lol porn mountains |
| 02:03:05 | tad_ZZZZZZzzzzzz | is gone and away |
| 02:04:09 | goofey | bzbot: me |
| 02:04:22 | | well, goofey is goofy |
| 02:04:22 | dinah | ibot: goofey?? |
| 02:04:40 | | goofey: sorry... |
| 02:04:40 | goofey | oh yeah, ibot... |
| 02:04:47 | | i guess goofey is goofy |
| 02:04:47 | goofey | ibot: me |
| 02:04:48 | captain_proton | i never figured tad for the innocent type |
| 02:04:52 | goofey | damn straight |
| 02:05:02 | | you are, like, recovering from having 21% of her left lung removed |
| 02:05:02 | dinah | ibot: me |
| 02:05:15 | goofey | bummer. :( |
| 02:05:38 | dinah | right right right |
| 02:05:46 | | :) |
| 02:05:46 | goofey | ibot: botsnack |
| 02:06:26 | | ACTION kills all the morons |
| 02:06:26 | dinah | ibot: kill |
| 02:06:42 | | you are, like, running rxvt quite well on the tux, tho it requires a bit of mucking with ptys |
| 02:06:42 | jacques | ibot: me |
| 02:06:57 | | Mr. Aphenphosmphobia |
| 02:06:57 | captain_proton | ibot: me |
| 02:07:00 | captain_proton | =) |
| 02:07:10 | patlabor221 | cp: ok they are untared |
| 02:07:30 | captain_proton | go into the GLX dir |
| 02:07:35 | captain_proton | i think you just have to do 'make' |
| 02:08:06 | patlabor221 | ok it did it |
| 02:08:24 | captain_proton | try 'make install' just for safety |
| 02:08:37 | patlabor221 | it did it again |
| 02:08:47 | captain_proton | ok, you're done with that |
| 02:09:10 | patlabor221 | k |
| 02:09:32 | captain_proton | now go into kernel, run 'make' |
| 02:10:08 | patlabor221 | got an error couldn't find asm/fixmap.h |
| 02:10:22 | patlabor221 | and others |
| 02:10:41 | patlabor221 | vairous invalid kernel headers |
| 02:10:46 | captain_proton | you need your kernel source in /usr/src/linux |
| 02:11:00 | patlabor221 | well how do I get that? |
| 02:11:08 | captain_proton | are you running the stock kernel? |
| 02:11:19 | patlabor221 | It was a fresh install last ngiht |
| 02:11:21 | captain_proton | ok |
| 02:11:24 | patlabor221 | then I ran the updater |
| 02:11:26 | captain_proton | install the kernel-source package |
| 02:11:29 | patlabor221 | it said it updated the kernel |
| 02:11:34 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:11:42 | captain_proton | run the updater and install the latest kernel-source then |
| 02:13:30 | captain_proton | throws on some bjork |
| 02:13:40 | patlabor221 | got any Idea what the package would be named? |
| 02:13:52 | captain_proton | kernel-source |
| 02:14:49 | patlabor221 | there you are you little bugger |
| 02:17:03 | dinah | i always wanted a "swan dress" |
| 02:17:28 | captain_proton | swan dress? |
| 02:17:47 | dinah | bjokr wore one to some award thing |
| 02:17:52 | captain_proton | ahh yes |
| 02:17:54 | captain_proton | heard about that |
| 02:17:57 | patlabor221 | had a head on it |
| 02:18:00 | patlabor221 | looked wierd |
| 02:18:15 | captain_proton | she's my hero - attacks her fans |
| 02:20:20 | patlabor221 | cP: I can't remember what options do I use in the RPM command? |
| 02:20:52 | captain_proton | rpm -Uvh file-version.rpm |
| 02:21:50 | patlabor221 | it's making nosies |
| 02:22:14 | patlabor221 | it f-en reboted |
| 02:22:23 | patlabor221 | in the midle of the rpm |
| 02:22:42 | captain_proton | ?? |
| 02:22:53 | patlabor221 | just bam... bios |
| 02:23:08 | captain_proton | sounds like an athlon ;) |
| 02:23:14 | patlabor221 | it's a P3 |
| 02:23:22 | captain_proton | proper cooling? |
| 02:23:23 | patlabor221 | aww man, it's fugged again |
| 02:23:39 | patlabor221 | yeah slot1 standard intell retail fan |
| 02:23:46 | patlabor221 | things wleded on |
| 02:24:00 | patlabor221 | it's just a little PIII 666 |
| 02:24:00 | captain_proton | don't have any random bits of metal rolling around on the mobo? (certain shorts can cause a reboot) |
| 02:24:08 | patlabor221 | no |
| 02:24:14 | captain_proton | bizzare |
| 02:24:18 | patlabor221 | very |
| 02:24:25 | patlabor221 | it is the processor of the beast |
| 02:28:44 | patlabor221 | it gets to grub start lunux and as soon as it gets to mounting the drives it reboots |
| 02:28:48 | patlabor221 | windows boots fine |
| 02:29:40 | captain_proton | never heard of that |
| 02:30:28 | patlabor221 | now I have linux on the slave drive, is that ok? |
| 02:30:41 | captain_proton | should be fine |
| 02:31:06 | patlabor221 | I think that kernel update screwed me up |
| 02:31:15 | patlabor221 | it worked fine untill I installed that |
| 02:32:54 | patlabor221 | well time to make dinner |
| 02:36:00 | Widget | Someone was logged in with my nick! |
| 02:36:24 | patlbor221_make_ | did you beat them silly? |
| 02:36:54 | captain_proton | oh something classic happened to me |
| 02:36:59 | jacques | ? |
| 02:36:59 | captain_proton | perfect cell accused me of cheating |
| 02:37:07 | Widget | Hahahahahaha. |
| 02:37:11 | jacques | WTF??? is that fucker still around? |
| 02:37:57 | captain_proton | i couldn't stop laughing |
| 02:38:22 | jacques | what's he up to now? more subtle cheats? |
| 02:38:27 | Widget | Was he joking? |
| 02:38:29 | captain_proton | i dunno |
| 02:38:40 | captain_proton | two of us were on a server that had UDP troubles |
| 02:38:45 | captain_proton | he signed on, called me a cheater, and left |
| 02:39:08 | jacques | so he doesn't play with cheates? :-D |
| 02:39:19 | captain_proton | he didn't play at all |
| 02:39:35 | Widget | Is he only banned from ducati? |
| 02:40:02 | captain_proton | he was banned from babylonia but i can't run servers there anymore |
| 02:43:30 | jacques | im actually surprised i havent seen him on turkey or astercity lately |
| 02:44:45 | captain_proton | i haven't seen him recently, but i haven't played much recently either |
| 02:45:50 | patlbor221_make_ | cP: is there anyway to downdate a kernel? |
| 02:46:09 | captain_proton | patlbor221_make_: you can force install the older rpm |
| 02:47:03 | patlabor221 | cp: how do I do that? |
| 02:47:14 | captain_proton | rpm -Uvh --force file.rpm |
| 02:47:21 | patlabor221 | cP: I got booted into a recocvery console |
| 02:47:39 | captain_proton | bleh @ grub |
| 02:47:46 | captain_proton | i'd say just clean reinstall =/ |
| 02:47:52 | patlabor221 | I can do that |
| 02:48:01 | patlabor221 | sould I do Lilo this time |
| 02:48:24 | captain_proton | its your choice |
| 02:48:29 | captain_proton | lilo is simpler |
| 02:49:01 | patlabor221 | wheee second install in 2 days |
| 02:49:18 | patlabor221 | had to do it last nigght, cus the HD made that sound that HDs arn't suposed to make |
| 02:49:41 | captain_proton | eek |
| 02:49:51 | patlabor221 | it's ok I have a pile of them |
| 03:04:41 | paul | captain_proton: too late now, but for future reference, dont use 'Upgrade' (-U) with kernel rpms. :) |
| 03:05:19 | captain_proton | bah - kernel packages suck anyway |
| 03:05:30 | patlabor221 | so when this gets done |
| 03:05:38 | patlabor221 | just go get the kernal source |
| 03:05:41 | patlabor221 | and do the makes |
| 03:05:43 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 03:05:43 | paul | you want the other kernel rpms to stay installed.. also --oldpackage allows you to upgrade to older packages. |
| 03:05:51 | captain_proton | and it was just the source package he was installing |
| 03:05:59 | paul | ah :) |
| 03:06:27 | captain_proton | --force always worked for me ;) |
| 03:06:44 | paul | :) |
| 03:06:55 | paul | but it'll get you into trouble. :) |
| 03:07:04 | paul | ..eventually. |
| 03:07:07 | captain_proton | perhaps, perhaps |
| 03:07:14 | captain_proton | its a good thing i don't use redhat then, no? |
| 03:07:24 | patlabor221 | what do you use? |
| 03:07:45 | captain_proton | build from scratch - not technically LFS because i wrote the boot scripts |
| 03:08:24 | patlabor221 | well I just want it to work :) |
| 03:13:52 | paul | captain_proton: impressive.. |
| 03:14:06 | paul | why did you decide to do that? |
| 03:15:04 | captain_proton | do which? build myself or write my own boot scripts? |
| 03:15:17 | captain_proton | both are kind of along the same thread: speed |
| 03:15:31 | captain_proton | every single thing is i686 optimized |
| 03:30:57 | paul | night |
| 05:36:03 | goofey | is away: Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. |
| 05:56:42 | Widget | Yoooooooohooooooooo? Anyone here? |
| 05:56:46 | captain_proton | yello |
| 05:56:52 | Widget | Rise and shine!!! |
| 05:57:37 | captain_proton | midnight here |
| 05:57:53 | Widget | Well, everyone knows American BZFlaggers suck. |
| 05:57:59 | Widget | Oh, it's midnight? |
| 05:58:13 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 05:58:27 | Widget | 3Happy 2Independence Day |
| 05:58:30 | Widget | Hm. |
| 05:58:38 | Widget | 4Happy 2Independence Day |
| 05:58:41 | Widget | That is better., |
| 05:59:17 | captain_proton | yay. what rights will the government try to remove today? |
| 05:59:32 | Widget | Hm. Google did not have a special picture for Canada 4Day on the first. |
| 05:59:34 | Widget | No fair. |
| 05:59:50 | Widget | Yesyes. Americans are 13th on UN Human Freedoms Index. |
| 05:59:54 | Widget | Pobrecito. |
| 05:59:56 | captain_proton | did they have one in canada? sometimes its country specific |
| 05:59:57 | Widget | Flee to Canada. |
| 06:00:28 | Widget | Yes, I was here yelling "Happy Canada Day" to everyone on Tuesday (which was Monday in Canada) |
| 06:01:26 | Widget | Hopefully, they'll have some choice pictures of guillotines on the 14th.. for Bastille Day. |
| 06:02:23 | captain_proton | their bastille day logos tend to be more centered around the whole liberte... thing |
| 06:02:38 | jacques_gone | hmmm |
| 06:02:51 | jacques_gone | google is not following proper flag ettiquette |
| 06:02:54 | jacques_gone | (sp) |
| 06:03:35 | jacques_gone | "# Do not use the flag for decoration or advertising." |
| 06:03:38 | Widget | captain_proton: Amazing how misinterpreted all these holidays have become..... Christmas, Bastille Day.... |
| 06:03:54 | captain_proton | Widget: right |
| 06:04:17 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:04:26 | Widget | Ah, they apparently had a Canada Day logo. |
| 06:04:27 | Widget | http://www.google.com/logos/canada_day02.gif |
| 06:04:36 | jacques_gone | what? xmas == presents |
| 06:04:39 | captain_proton | jacques_gone: i think its not advertising or decoration - more of a salute |
| 06:04:46 | captain_proton | grins at jacques_gone |
| 06:04:52 | jacques_gone | captain_proton: yeah I know I was stretching :-) |
| 06:04:54 | Widget | http://www.google.com/logos/bastilleday.gif |
| 06:05:15 | jacques_gone | halloween == candy |
| 06:05:17 | captain_proton | Widget: yeah - for lesser known holidays they restrict it to the country code domains |
| 06:05:20 | jacques_gone | thanksgiving == food |
| 06:05:36 | jacques_gone | valentines == breakup with girlfriend |
| 06:05:53 | Widget | Allons enfants de la Patrie le jour de gloire est arrivé! |
| 06:06:07 | Widget | Contre nous de la tyrannie.... |
| 06:06:16 | Widget | L'etandard sanglant est levé! |
| 06:06:21 | Widget | L'etandard sanglant est levé!!!! |
| 06:06:27 | jacques_gone | july 4th == fireworks |
| 06:06:38 | Widget | Entendez-vous dans nos compagnes..... mugir ces feroces soldats.... |
| 06:06:47 | Widget | Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras..... |
| 06:06:55 | Widget | Egorger vos fils, vos compagnes..... |
| 06:07:04 | Widget | hums La Marseillaise. |
| 06:07:18 | jacques_gone | mmm, chicken marsalla |
| 06:07:26 | Widget | Qu'un sang impur...... abreuve nos sillons!!!! |
| 06:07:44 | Widget | Qu'un le sang de captain_proton........ abreuve mon sillon. |
| 06:08:04 | captain_proton | ibot, x fr en Qu'un le sang de captain_proton........ abreuve mon sillon. |
| 06:08:04 | | captain_proton: That blood of captain_proton........ waters my furrow. |
| 06:08:24 | captain_proton | ibot, x fr en Qu'un sang impur...... abreuve nos sillons!!!! |
| 06:08:24 | | captain_proton: How one impure blood...... waters our furrows!!!! |
| 06:08:32 | captain_proton | ? |
| 06:08:37 | Widget | Bad translation. |
| 06:08:42 | captain_proton | i gathered |
| 06:09:09 | Widget | Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons is the last line. It means "Until impure blood waters our furrows." |
| 06:09:15 | Widget | Ouch. How violent. |
| 06:09:31 | jacques_gone | kill! kill! blood makes the grass grow! |
| 06:09:58 | Widget | Not benefitting "les gens le plus civilisé dans l'Europe". |
| 06:10:18 | jacques_gone | god i am so bored |
| 06:10:26 | jacques_gone | i dont know what I am going to do for the next 4 days |
| 06:10:58 | Widget | En cette ville de Nantes Henry IV Roy de France signa le 13 Avril 1593 l'edit de tolerance perpetuel & irrevocable accordant la liberte de religion aux protestants. |
| 06:12:23 | Widget | Les hommes naissent et demeurent libres, et egaux en droits. Les distinctions sociales no peuvent etre fondees que sur l'utilite commune. |
| 06:12:34 | Widget | Ah.... the French Revolution. That's how things should be run! |
| 06:12:38 | captain_proton | jacques_gone: hack at bzflag |
| 06:12:55 | jacques_gone | hmm |
| 06:13:17 | jacques_gone | better than playing bzflag for four days straight |
| 06:13:38 | captain_proton | if you want to ease into it, start messing with the view stuff |
| 06:13:48 | captain_proton | pretty simple to understand |
| 06:13:59 | Widget | EDWARD by the grace of God, King of England, Lord of Ireland, and Duke of Guyan, to all Archbishops, Bishops, etc. We have seen the Great Charter of the Lord HENRY, sometimes King of England, our father, of the Liberties of England, in these words: Henry by the grace of God, King of England, Lord of Ireland, Duke of Normandy and Guyan, and Earl of Anjou, to all Archbishops, Bishops, Abbots, Priors, Earls, Barons, Sheriffs, Provosts, Officers |
| 06:13:59 | Widget | d to all Bailiffs and other our faithful Subjects , which shall see this present Charter, Greeting. Know ye that we, unto the honour of Almighty God, and for the salvation of the souls of our progenitors and successors, Kings of England, to the advancement of holy Church, and amendment of our Realm, of our meer and free will, have given and granted to all Archbishops, Bishops, Abbots, Priors, Earls, Barons, and to all freemen of this our rea |
| 06:13:59 | Widget | these liberties following, to be kept in our kingdom of England for ever. |
| 06:14:14 | jacques_gone | captain_proton: that sounds like a good idea |
| 06:14:34 | jacques_gone | i will start looking at the code tonight when I get home |
| 06:14:45 | captain_proton | not even the code |
| 06:14:49 | captain_proton | the xml files in data |
| 06:14:57 | captain_proton | specifically view.bzc |
| 06:15:00 | jacques_gone | aaah, even better |
| 06:15:22 | captain_proton | because the interface is completely customizable via them =D |
| 06:15:50 | jacques_gone | captain_proton: did that make it into e6 or are you referring to 1.8 only? |
| 06:16:01 | captain_proton | all of the xml stuff is 1.8 only |
| 06:16:05 | jacques_gone | ok |
| 06:16:26 | captain_proton | what i mean is you could easily move the radar around, or even get rid of all the rest and have a full screen radar, with only some simple modifications |
| 06:16:45 | jacques_gone | :-) |
| 06:16:58 | jacques_gone | i want a full screen radar as a screensaver |
| 06:17:15 | jacques_gone | i bet i could get xscreensaver to ru nit |
| 06:17:43 | captain_proton | i'd rather have it in observer tracking mode |
| 06:18:37 | jacques_gone | that would be cool too - if it could default to somethig like highest score player |
| 06:18:53 | jacques_gone | some way to be sure it would have a player to observe |
| 06:18:57 | captain_proton | make it track the king ;) |
| 06:19:41 | jacques_gone | can it do that? |
| 06:19:52 | captain_proton | not at the moment, but it would be a trivial hack |
| 06:22:51 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 06:22:57 | captain_proton | i just confused the hell out of a lot of people |
| 06:23:06 | captain_proton | <evil_enchilada> generalizations are wrong, no matter what. there will always be a contradiction |
| 06:23:10 | captain_proton | <bryan[indolent]> isnt that in its self a generalzations evil? |
| 06:23:14 | captain_proton | <evil_enchilada> bryan[indolent]: yes. however, the statement is true because it is false |
| 06:23:43 | captain_proton | grins |
| 06:25:11 | BZFlag | need to add a "leader" mode to tracking and following. |
| 06:35:49 | jacques_gone | hmm can tpickup flag problem is interesting - about 1 in 50 times I can pick one up |
| 06:36:58 | jacques_gone | ok going to get food and home |
| 06:42:51 | Widget | hihihi |
| 06:51:23 | captain_proton | 'lo MrApathyCream |
| 06:52:43 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 06:53:14 | captain_proton | how goes? |
| 06:53:55 | MrApathyCream | okley dokley |
| 06:54:13 | MrApathyCream | timmy seems peeved, no? 'bout sstream |
| 06:54:53 | captain_proton | it looks like everything is pretty well fixed |
| 06:54:58 | MrApathyCream | good |
| 06:57:04 | MrApathyCream | play with masquerade yet? |
| 06:58:39 | captain_proton | only by myself |
| 06:59:32 | captain_proton | you were right about simple implementation |
| 07:04:13 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:04:38 | captain_proton | theif and burrow look scary to implement |
| 07:04:53 | MrApathyCream | in 1.8 yes |
| 07:04:58 | MrApathyCream | almost anything is scary to impl in 1.8 |
| 07:05:05 | MrApathyCream | ;( |
| 07:05:16 | captain_proton | you exaggerate |
| 07:05:33 | MrApathyCream | I wanted to switch over to flag abbv based indices using maps, get rid of flag id ints |
| 07:05:43 | MrApathyCream | but the new bzfs code is just knarly |
| 07:05:48 | MrApathyCream | regions et al. |
| 07:06:10 | captain_proton | eep |
| 07:06:35 | captain_proton | bumbles off to shower |
| 07:06:37 | captain_proton | be back in a few |
| 07:07:05 | MrApathyCream | goes off to bed |
| 07:28:42 | Widget | der Bahnhof. |
| 07:28:45 | Widget | Der Sohn. |
| 07:28:47 | Widget | Der Vater. |
| 07:28:50 | Widget | Der Wagen. |
| 07:28:52 | Widget | Der Zug. |
| 07:28:56 | Widget | Die Anlage. |
| 07:28:57 | Widget | Die Dame. |
| 07:29:01 | Widget | Die Festung. |
| 07:29:03 | captain_proton | ? |
| 07:29:05 | Widget | Die Gesundheit. |
| 07:29:08 | Widget | Die Luft. |
| 07:29:12 | Widget | Das Boot. |
| 07:29:15 | Widget | Das Dach. |
| 07:29:16 | Widget | Das Geld. |
| 07:29:19 | Widget | Das Jahr. |
| 07:29:21 | Widget | Das Kino. |
| 07:29:23 | Widget | Das Radio. |
| 07:48:44 | captain_proton | Widget: whats your opinion on being recruited? |
| 08:17:09 | captain_proton | woowoo |
| 08:17:17 | captain_proton | i think i've got all the main-process audio stuff done |
| 08:55:41 | captain_proton | 'lo akira_ |
| 08:55:55 | akira_ | back from presentation :) |
| 08:56:32 | akira_ | slept 2 hours our so and now i am dead :) |
| 08:56:57 | akira_ | inserts me into the akira_ graveyard |
| 08:57:46 | akira_ | happy bzflagging .. me is out |
| 10:08:17 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 10:08:19 | captain_proton | 4:11 AM |
| 11:53:55 | taD_gone | yells "'Its 1/4 of july!!!" |
| 11:54:09 | taD_gone | goes and sulks in the corner |
| 12:02:08 | teA_ | lalalalalalalalalalalalallalalala........... |
| 14:20:22 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah @ dinah |
| 14:20:36 | tad_busy_AND_gon | goes and lays face down in the sand |
| 14:21:07 | | dinah was last seen on #bzflag 12 hours, 3 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: bjokr wore one to some award thing [Thu Jul 4 03:17:47 2002] |
| 14:21:07 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ibot seen dinah |
| 14:21:07 | dinah | buries tad's head in the sand |
| 14:21:16 | tad_busy_AND_gon | teehee |
| 14:21:43 | tad_busy_AND_gon | takes dinahs head and drops it down a well, THEN covers it with sand |
| 14:22:18 | dinah | wonders if its a drekel well |
| 14:22:43 | tad_busy_AND_gon | says its a very deep well |
| 14:23:14 | dinah | well i suppose that last comment was a bit above your head |
| 14:23:21 | tad_busy_AND_gon | no |
| 14:23:24 | tad_busy_AND_gon | it is a well |
| 14:23:27 | tad_busy_AND_gon | below.... |
| 14:23:34 | tad_busy_AND_gon | sighs at the world |
| 14:23:48 | tad_busy_AND_gon | is uninstalling office |
| 14:24:10 | dinah | once there were three sisters livning in a well. a drekel well... |
| 14:24:27 | tad_busy_AND_gon | starts compiling office 2003 |
| 14:24:29 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ah |
| 14:24:32 | dinah | and they were learing to draw. whta? drekel! |
| 14:24:37 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmmm |
| 14:24:44 | tad_busy_AND_gon | I guess you where one if them? |
| 14:25:03 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah |
| 14:25:07 | tad_busy_AND_gon | was one of them |
| 14:25:20 | dinah | if one can draw water from a water well surly one can draw drekel from a drekel well. |
| 14:25:34 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 14:25:54 | tad_busy_AND_gon | checks the insane asylum reports..... |
| 14:26:26 | dinah | concludes tad has never read alice in wonderland |
| 14:26:36 | tad_busy_AND_gon | slaps his head and says "duh, office 2003 does not compile on linux.... |
| 14:26:48 | tad_busy_AND_gon | alice in wonderland? |
| 14:26:52 | tad_busy_AND_gon | so your THE alice? |
| 14:26:54 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 14:26:56 | dinah | is it not only 2002? |
| 14:27:04 | tad_busy_AND_gon | no |
| 14:27:05 | tad_busy_AND_gon | 2003 |
| 14:27:12 | dinah | no i am THE dinah |
| 14:27:20 | tad_busy_AND_gon | microsoft made it open source |
| 14:27:24 | tad_busy_AND_gon | :D |
| 14:27:41 | tad_busy_AND_gon | kicks himself |
| 14:27:49 | tad_busy_AND_gon | yells at the door |
| 14:27:53 | dinah | belives every thing of microsoft to be open source, illigaly |
| 14:27:55 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bangs the desk |
| 14:28:08 | tad_busy_AND_gon | burns microsofts HQ |
| 14:28:22 | tad_busy_AND_gon | um, |
| 14:28:26 | dinah | watches redmond burn :) |
| 14:28:35 | tad_busy_AND_gon | forget I said that |
| 14:29:00 | tad_busy_AND_gon | watchs microsoft move to afganistan |
| 14:29:23 | tad_busy_AND_gon | watches a nuke hit afganistan |
| 14:29:39 | tad_busy_AND_gon | watched microsoft burn |
| 15:01:18 | teA_ | somewone ther e? |
| 15:01:47 | dinah | smiles |
| 15:03:46 | dinah | considers the possibility that teA_ dislikes her |
| 15:04:32 | teA_ | lol |
| 15:04:46 | teA_ | dinah : is Q-DSL faster ore A-DSL |
| 15:05:19 | dinah | that question soars magesticly above my head |
| 15:11:21 | teA_ | internet connectioN ! |
| 15:11:48 | dinah | oh i know that... but i havent the foggiest |
| 15:14:32 | teA_ | lol |
| 15:14:34 | teA_ | np |
| 15:14:43 | teA_ | how about a little game on ducati ? |
| 15:15:06 | teA_ | :D |
| 15:15:14 | dinah | well, i suppose i could... |
| 15:15:25 | teA_ | ok c ya there |
| 16:03:10 | akira_ | hello |
| 16:03:13 | Chestal | hi akira |
| 16:03:15 | tad_busy_AND_gon | moo |
| 16:03:29 | dinah | pats the nice cow |
| 16:03:35 | akira_ | where is captain proton ? |
| 16:04:20 | tad_busy_AND_gon | snorts and rams dinah into the gate |
| 16:04:49 | dinah | never really liked bovines |
| 16:05:41 | tad_busy_AND_gon | gets angry and slams dinah over hte fence |
| 16:05:58 | tad_busy_AND_gon | chews his cud |
| 16:06:02 | tad_busy_AND_gon | moos |
| 16:06:06 | dinah | has her other lung crushed by this and dies |
| 16:06:16 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ouch |
| 16:06:26 | dinah | the ghost of dinah hopes your happy |
| 16:06:36 | tad_busy_AND_gon | picks dinah up and runs to the morge |
| 16:06:44 | tad_busy_AND_gon | :) |
| 16:06:56 | tad_busy_AND_gon | I never knew IRC could be so much fun.... |
| 16:07:05 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah |
| 16:07:16 | tad_busy_AND_gon | have to go make a lego crash car |
| 16:07:20 | tad_busy_AND_gon | brb |
| 16:07:42 | akira_ | Chestal: i got new ideas for the particle system in 1.8 :) |
| 16:07:54 | tad_busy_AND_gon | uh oh |
| 16:09:09 | Chestal | akira: working on the HUD switch right now... |
| 16:10:58 | akira_ | Chestal: and how far are you come ? |
| 16:11:17 | Chestal | akira_: most of it is working, several glitched need to be removed |
| 16:11:57 | akira_ | Chestal: i could test it tomorrow .. today there is too much official stuff todo :)) |
| 16:11:58 | Chestal | hmm, I should have safed an e6 version to compare |
| 16:14:34 | akira_ | hello patlabor221 |
| 16:14:39 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:14:46 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah @ patlabor221 |
| 16:14:50 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hehe |
| 16:14:51 | akira_ | you followed the hole particle discussion ? |
| 16:14:52 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hello |
| 16:15:06 | patlabor221 | I saw a good part of it |
| 16:15:15 | akira_ | the last part ? |
| 16:15:20 | akira_ | i got a new cool idea |
| 16:15:24 | patlabor221 | what's he using for a sceene graph? |
| 16:15:26 | patlabor221 | and that is? |
| 16:15:36 | akira_ | patlabor221: a selfwriten bz-scenegraph :) |
| 16:15:53 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 16:16:00 | akira_ | the problem was to rearrange the hole indexarray everytime you update the lifecycle |
| 16:16:08 | patlabor221 | ewww |
| 16:16:59 | akira_ | so |
| 16:17:28 | akira_ | i think opengl check every incoming primitive to be regular or irregular |
| 16:17:51 | patlabor221 | what do you mean by regular or iregular? |
| 16:18:00 | akira_ | so, "dead" particles could be marked as irregular through setting the position or the vertices to 0,0,0 ... |
| 16:18:11 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:18:16 | patlabor221 | all coincedent |
| 16:18:26 | akira_ | an irregular or "bad" triangle :) |
| 16:18:32 | patlabor221 | yeah got that now |
| 16:18:33 | akira_ | and opengl throw them away ... |
| 16:18:38 | akira_ | cool aeh ? |
| 16:18:39 | patlabor221 | just woke up :) |
| 16:18:55 | akira_ | so you just dont need to rearrange the whole stuff |
| 16:19:06 | akira_ | but to be sure im searching now in the openglspecs |
| 16:19:23 | akira_ | if you see captain proton, you could tell him this ... would you ? |
| 16:19:30 | patlabor221 | yeah, it wouls take some testing to make sure that some implementnations didn't screw it up |
| 16:19:39 | patlabor221 | If I see him hea |
| 16:19:40 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:19:50 | akira_ | thanx |
| 16:19:52 | patlabor221 | have to go to work for a while today tho :( |
| 16:19:56 | akira_ | hehe |
| 16:19:59 | akira_ | me not |
| 16:20:03 | patlabor221 | on a holiday even |
| 16:20:12 | akira_ | i took a day for me :) |
| 16:21:06 | patlabor221 | well I got a 4 day weekend from my first job, but I have to go work at my second job a bit, we are behind |
| 16:25:39 | akira_ | patlabor221: is openglorg down at the moment ? |
| 16:26:11 | patlabor221 | looks like it is |
| 16:26:22 | akira_ | damn |
| 16:27:38 | akira_ | but if the specs say: throw away irregular triangles then the particle system could really be redesign ... |
| 16:28:00 | patlabor221 | that would be a lot less work |
| 16:28:05 | akira_ | ok, we "waste" a little bit memory coz we always have the "worst" case ... but ... |
| 16:28:20 | akira_ | patlabor221: dont think so .. should be done really fast ... |
| 16:28:37 | patlabor221 | yah that's what Im saying |
| 16:28:44 | patlabor221 | less cpu work = speed |
| 16:28:54 | patlabor221 | and ram is cheap :) |
| 16:29:05 | akira_ | patlabor221: i will come back to this channel tomorrow and then i will do this :)) |
| 16:29:15 | akira_ | patlabor221: i overread the "less work" ... |
| 16:29:23 | akira_ | is very tired still :) |
| 16:31:23 | akira_ | patlabor221: i think the rotation matrix should be applied while traversing all particles for updating the lifecycle |
| 16:31:35 | tad_busy_AND_gon | I agree |
| 16:31:46 | patlabor221 | yeah just once |
| 16:31:59 | tad_busy_AND_gon | and add improbabilty.... |
| 16:32:22 | akira_ | to call glMultMatrixf wont be enough before glDrawElements |
| 16:33:15 | akira_ | one could store the "center" of the particle somewhere, calculate the rotation matrix and then calc the vertices while doing the traversing ... |
| 16:33:29 | akira_ | not optimal ... but .. mhh .. should think about this again |
| 16:33:35 | tad_busy_AND_gon | yea!! |
| 16:33:41 | tad_busy_AND_gon | is away |
| 16:33:46 | tad_busy_AND_gon | is away for good |
| 16:33:55 | tad_busy_AND_gon | is away for real very far away good |
| 16:35:03 | patlabor221 | tad is lying |
| 16:35:44 | tad_busy_AND_gon | is in a galaxy far far away.... |
| 16:35:54 | tad_busy_AND_gon | very far far away, quite |
| 16:36:09 | tad_busy_AND_gon | so far, its farther that infinity |
| 16:36:16 | akira_ | patlabor221: any suggestion for this ? |
| 16:36:33 | patlabor221 | tad's lying or the rotations? :) |
| 16:36:49 | patlabor221 | it's tricky |
| 16:37:12 | akira_ | rotations :) |
| 16:37:18 | akira_ | the thin is |
| 16:37:22 | tad_busy_AND_gon | heh |
| 16:37:25 | akira_ | create rotmatrix once |
| 16:37:33 | patlabor221 | if you spend the time figuring out the verts yourslf when you traverse, then you don't get to take a advatice of hardware |
| 16:37:47 | akira_ | and then build the verts with just addition to the centervertex ... |
| 16:38:03 | akira_ | patlabor221: right |
| 16:38:20 | patlabor221 | wonder how other people do this? |
| 16:38:33 | akira_ | patlabor221: good question |
| 16:38:45 | akira_ | i have to go .. |
| 16:38:50 | patlabor221 | see ya |
| 16:38:50 | akira_ | official thing :) |
| 16:38:55 | patlabor221 | I'll lookinto other systems |
| 16:39:04 | akira_ | do this and greeting to captain proton |
| 16:39:05 | akira_ | by |
| 17:13:09 | dinah | is starting to think shes too bloody well known |
| 17:13:35 | patlabor221 | do you have a fan club? |
| 17:14:23 | dinah | its these rotters who change there nics all the time. id rather know who im talkin to |
| 17:14:36 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 17:15:20 | dinah | really how am i supposed to hold grudges if they change there bloody names!??! :-( |
| 17:15:43 | patlabor221 | you'd have to hold there IP against them |
| 17:16:11 | dinah | im not admin on any of the servers... |
| 17:16:21 | patlabor221 | :( |
| 17:20:39 | blackhound | heya |
| 17:20:44 | dinah | lo |
| 17:21:55 | Chestal | hi black |
| 17:23:10 | dinah | so are there any differences twix e6 and e7 |
| 17:25:55 | patlabor221 | I think moslty radar stuff |
| 17:26:10 | dinah | oh? good stuff? |
| 17:26:41 | patlabor221 | from all teh cvs stuff it looks like it's just been made so that it can be adjusted to prefrence |
| 17:27:07 | Chestal | dinah: e6 and e7 are nearly identical |
| 17:27:18 | patlabor221 | there seemd to be a big dicusion involving it, and the words "suck", "crap" and ocsonalyy "ass" |
| 17:27:22 | dinah | sohuld i bother to get it? |
| 17:27:30 | Chestal | dinah: however, there is a version out there which uses akira's+my patch, this adds some more options |
| 17:28:01 | Chestal | dinah: e7 is just current CVS, this doesn't buy you anything |
| 17:28:15 | dinah | menue options? not optons id have to fiddle with the source to get? |
| 17:28:21 | Chestal | I'm workign on extending the patch right now, then I need some testers |
| 17:28:23 | patlabor221 | it seems that not everyone is on the 1.8 bandwagon are they? |
| 17:28:31 | Chestal | when it's good, it might go into CVS and thus become 1.7e8 |
| 17:28:45 | Chestal | dinah: yes, menu optons |
| 17:28:57 | Chestal | pat: well, I am not quite satisfied with the 1.7 version yet |
| 17:29:03 | dinah | likes that |
| 17:29:05 | Chestal | pat: if I am, I might join coding on 1.8 again |
| 17:29:20 | Chestal | there's lots of work to do for 1.8 |
| 17:29:29 | patlabor221 | to me it seems that Cap is making 1.8 a bit overly complex |
| 17:30:53 | Chestal | hmm, Cap is working on the particles, I don't think he did much else yet |
| 17:31:58 | dinah | needs to learn to specify at least one module or directory |
| 17:32:25 | Chestal | dinah: do you want to test akira's patch? |
| 17:32:44 | patlabor221 | the XML stuff seems to be a bit overkill to me |
| 17:32:49 | dinah | Chestal: if its not hard... |
| 17:34:02 | Chestal | dinah: which version are you checking out right now? |
| 17:34:09 | dinah | throws the concept of module names in the english channel!!! |
| 17:34:14 | Chestal | patlabor: crs did that |
| 17:34:26 | Chestal | pat: but actually it's quite nice, adding new options to the game is very easy now |
| 17:34:34 | dinah | arrrrrgh |
| 17:34:47 | Chestal | pat: takes only a minute to create a new options menu or something |
| 17:35:18 | Chestal | pat: or for exampel I added a key for radar zooming in/out without changing the source code |
| 17:35:24 | patlabor221 | for configs and stuff I can see it, not so sure about worlds and models using it, I'll have to play wiht it |
| 17:35:45 | Chestal | xml syntax sucks, however |
| 17:36:04 | Chestal | XML is a format which is neither easily readable by machines nor humans :-) |
| 17:36:21 | patlabor221 | exactly |
| 17:36:33 | patlabor221 | and I'm wonderin how I'm gonna make a map editor for it |
| 17:36:37 | dinah | thinks they need a "click here too download dummy" button on cvs... |
| 17:38:16 | patlabor221 | they have that wiht tortice CVs on windows, just right click and bam, checkout |
| 17:38:39 | dinah | humbugg at windows |
| 17:39:06 | patlabor221 | well right now that's all I got that runs :( |
| 17:39:37 | dinah | if i can get linux to work so can you |
| 17:39:52 | patlabor221 | I think I can, but I think I have a hardware problem |
| 17:40:02 | patlabor221 | I will be replacing some of it todya |
| 17:40:14 | patlabor221 | now it's rebooting in the midle of an install |
| 17:40:17 | dinah | gives up on cvs |
| 17:40:18 | patlabor221 | something up wiht it |
| 17:41:06 | dinah | ill try again when i figure out the modulename sod |
| 17:42:55 | patlabor221 | I just checked out latest 1.7 and ziped it for you. It's at http://www.artemisgames.com/BZFlag_17.zip ( in about 5 min ) |
| 17:43:26 | patlabor221 | damned 128k upstream dsl |
| 17:43:38 | dinah | The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. |
| 17:43:46 | patlabor221 | it's still uploading |
| 17:43:53 | patlabor221 | 4 more min :( |
| 17:44:06 | patlabor221 | I want my t1 back |
| 17:44:12 | dinah | just needed the module name... |
| 17:44:18 | patlabor221 | bzflag |
| 17:44:28 | dinah | no that gets me 1.8 |
| 17:44:46 | patlabor221 | there is a switch that makes it use 1.7 |
| 17:44:51 | patlabor221 | they have the same module name |
| 17:45:01 | dinah | switch? |
| 17:45:05 | patlabor221 | I htink it's -r v1_7 |
| 17:45:38 | patlabor221 | 1.7 is a branch off of the main dev line, but it still has the same module name |
| 17:45:50 | dinah | loves patlabor221 |
| 17:46:13 | patlabor221 | how do you do that? |
| 17:46:21 | dinah | what? |
| 17:46:31 | dinah | wonders if he mean this |
| 17:46:35 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:46:44 | dinah | type /me |
| 17:46:46 | patlabor221 | it's uploaded now if you want it |
| 17:46:54 | patlabor221 | feels all warm and tingly |
| 17:47:00 | patlabor221 | yay |
| 17:47:05 | dinah | oh i got it when you told me the -r v1_7 |
| 17:47:09 | patlabor221 | must find pants |
| 17:47:27 | patlabor221 | I need it on my web anyway, can't get cvs at my jobs |
| 17:48:34 | patlabor221 | ok off to work |
| 17:48:41 | patlabor221 | or at least pretend |
| 17:49:36 | blackhound | bbl |
| 17:51:44 | Widget | hihihi |
| 17:53:43 | dinah | Chestal i got e7 but dont find any new menu options? |
| 17:54:10 | tad_busy_AND_gon | e7? |
| 17:54:12 | tad_busy_AND_gon | e7? |
| 17:54:17 | tad_busy_AND_gon | e7???? |
| 17:54:19 | tad_busy_AND_gon | what? |
| 17:54:20 | tad_busy_AND_gon | sheesh |
| 17:55:41 | Chestal | dinah: that's what I was saying, e7 is identical to e6 |
| 17:55:48 | Chestal | dinah: the new options are in the patch |
| 17:56:03 | dinah | umm and what pray tell is a patch? |
| 17:56:04 | Chestal | dinah: patch is on sourceforge |
| 17:56:12 | Widget | Haben: Ich habe, du hast, er/sie/es hat, wir haben, ihr habt, sie haben. |
| 17:56:18 | Chestal | dinah: it's a file describing differences to sourcefiles |
| 17:56:31 | Chestal | dinah: so you would apply the patch to your sourcetree and then rebuild |
| 17:56:41 | dinah | my what tree? |
| 17:56:59 | Widget | You apply it to the BZFlag source files you downloaded. |
| 17:57:13 | Chestal | your source tree, everything you checked out of CVS |
| 17:57:47 | dinah | so this patch i find it how? |
| 17:57:50 | Chestal | dinah: if you wait a little longer, you can try the whole new patch |
| 17:57:55 | Widget | When people make changes to the source of BZFlag, they release a patch with the changes. When you apply the patch, it makes all the changes to the source tree that the diff detailed. |
| 17:58:20 | Widget | dinah: On http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/bzflag there is a section called 'Patches'. |
| 17:58:27 | Chestal | dinah: sourceforge->patches->adjustabel radar... |
| 17:58:31 | dinah | Chestal: wil it be terribly much longer? |
| 17:59:05 | Chestal | dinah: ehm, what do you mean exactly? what will be longer? |
| 17:59:10 | Chestal | ah ;-) |
| 17:59:16 | Chestal | well, I don't know, maybe 1 hour |
| 17:59:29 | dinah | i do belive i can wait |
| 18:00:03 | Chestal | the new patch will let you switch between old (e4 like) and new (e6 like) look, if you do not need that, you can use the old patch |
| 18:01:40 | dinah | so i download which thingy radarnewhud.txt radar.txt radarnew.txt? |
| 18:02:21 | Chestal | that's the wrong patch |
| 18:02:27 | dinah | bugger |
| 18:02:29 | Chestal | [ 573735 ] adjustable radar, controlpanel, fontsize, colored shots |
| 18:02:40 | Chestal | and on that page moles-patch.diff |
| 18:03:17 | dinah | so just sve it to bzflag/ and make? |
| 18:03:44 | Chestal | no, save it anywhere |
| 18:04:00 | Chestal | then go into the main bzflag direcotry and do 'patch < moles.diff -p0' |
| 18:04:09 | Chestal | then do 'make clean; make' |
| 18:04:28 | Chestal | patch should say something about the files it is changing |
| 18:05:21 | dinah | bah! bash: moles.diff: No such file or directory |
| 18:05:56 | Chestal | dinah: did you download it? |
| 18:06:01 | Widget | Replace moles.diff with the path to moles.diff. |
| 18:06:02 | dinah | ooops moles-patch.diff |
| 18:06:41 | dinah | feels silly |
| 18:09:48 | strayer | hi |
| 18:09:52 | Widget | hihihi |
| 18:11:14 | dinah | i must say its a very lovely set of options Chestal |
| 18:12:47 | Chestal | dinah: akira did most of the work, I only added the shot length |
| 18:13:05 | dinah | well do tell him i luv it. would you |
| 18:13:56 | Chestal | if I remember :-) |
| 18:18:57 | Impulz | and dont mix up the order of the words :) ('well do tell it i luv him' might be misunderstood ;) |
| 18:19:49 | Widget | This just proves the innate superiority of Latin. You can't make silly mistakes like that in Latin. |
| 18:20:37 | Impulz | hehehe.. no offence, but latin sucks :) i could 'enjoy' 5 years of it in school :-/ |
| 18:21:20 | dinah | sumo cum quo vadis? :=) |
| 18:21:36 | Widget | dinah: Potesne Latine loqui!?!? |
| 18:21:53 | Widget | dinah: Bonus! |
| 18:22:13 | Impulz | hm ja.. finde ich auch.. ganz eurer meinung :) |
| 18:22:20 | dinah | non errores yo aouroer non |
| 18:22:29 | Widget | dinah: Eh!?!?!? |
| 18:22:42 | Widget | dinah: Iberianese est? |
| 18:22:51 | dinah | whcih dialects did you learn? |
| 18:23:10 | Widget | dinah: Of Latin? The literary dialect. Not vulgar Latin. |
| 18:23:19 | Widget | dinah: No one knows how vulgar Latin was spoken anymore. |
| 18:23:19 | dinah | bah! |
| 18:23:37 | Widget | dinah: I learnt what everyone learnt. But your sentence sounds like Spanish. |
| 18:23:49 | Widget | Lingua Iberiana. |
| 18:23:54 | dinah | spanish came from latin... |
| 18:24:01 | Widget | Yes, but it is not Latin. |
| 18:24:10 | dinah | never the less |
| 18:24:21 | Widget | By that argument.... |
| 18:24:38 | Widget | Spanish comes from Latin, so Spanish = Latin. French comes from Latin, so French = Latin. Therefore French = Spanish? |
| 18:24:54 | dinah | in spanish moreir= to die. latit moris |
| 18:25:22 | strayer[avalon] | so what?.....its not equal |
| 18:25:36 | goofey | is back (gone 12:49:33) |
| 18:25:37 | dinah | latin por populo! :-) |
| 18:25:51 | Widget | Senatus Populusque Romanus!! |
| 18:25:59 | dinah | lol |
| 18:26:12 | Widget | Roma = Caput Mundi!! |
| 18:26:19 | dinah | liberate me ex Widget |
| 18:27:03 | Widget | Widget should be in the accusative. |
| 18:27:16 | Widget | Er... |
| 18:27:17 | Widget | Ablative. |
| 18:27:43 | dinah | its been some time, scince i spoke it im a might rusty |
| 18:28:56 | Widget | Mais vous sans doute parlez français, comme tous les Anglais élevé. |
| 18:29:02 | Widget | Er... |
| 18:29:04 | Widget | Mais vous sans doute parlez français, comme tous les Anglais élevés. |
| 18:29:14 | dinah | ummm... no auris verbatim dinah latin |
| 18:29:44 | dinah | no thats not right... |
| 18:30:21 | Widget | !!!!! Mais..... dinah est un sauvage!!! Vraiment, vous ne parlez pas français, la langue de culture? |
| 18:31:05 | dinah | french is the language of an unclean people |
| 18:31:42 | Widget | Les Anglais sont tous sauvages... Ils déjà utilisent le £. |
| 18:32:15 | Widget | L'euro, c'est le futur! |
| 18:33:30 | Widget | Je retournerai bientôt.. |
| 18:37:51 | Chestal | ibot: x fr en Je retournerai bientôt.. |
| 18:37:52 | | Chestal: I will turn over bient |
| 18:37:59 | Chestal | hmm |
| 18:48:29 | Widget | Back. |
| 18:48:35 | Widget | It means "I will return soon". |
| 18:48:40 | Widget | Haha. |
| 19:02:41 | dinah | thinks sexy beast is a great film |
| 19:05:56 | Chestal | hmm, don't know that one |
| 19:06:07 | Chestal | seems to be good |
| 19:06:33 | dinah | ben kingsly, ray winstone, ian mcshane... |
| 19:07:18 | Chestal | ah, it is now coming to German theaters |
| 19:07:22 | Chestal | a little late |
| 19:07:36 | dinah | see it. |
| 19:08:19 | dinah | wait. only just coiming to theaters?! iv got the dvd already |
| 19:08:37 | Chestal | yep,it's over 1 year late |
| 19:09:46 | dinah | i cant imagine what that must be like, seeing things so late |
| 19:10:16 | Widget | Is it dubbed, or subtitled? |
| 19:11:12 | dinah | my dvd seems to have both english and spanish... odd. for it to have english subtitles i mean |
| 19:11:47 | patlabor221 | problby for those who are deaf |
| 19:11:54 | dinah | ahh |
| 19:11:59 | Widget | Yah, most DVDs have subtitles. |
| 19:12:13 | patlabor221 | it's real easy for them to add them |
| 19:13:09 | Chestal | dinah: well, usually there is not that much delay. This happens when there is noone who thinks they could earn money with that film in cinema here and later reconsider |
| 19:14:02 | Chestal | hmm, the font sizes may still need some work, should be tested at different resolutions |
| 19:14:09 | Chestal | I guess it's a matter of personal taste,too |
| 19:14:20 | dinah | hmm i see, it doesnt even seem to have been on the big screen in the colonies |
| 19:14:35 | Chestal | ok, I got a new experimental patch, anyone wants to try it? |
| 19:14:41 | Widget | dinah: The colonies? |
| 19:14:46 | Widget | dinah: Oh... the states? |
| 19:14:47 | dinah | raises her hand |
| 19:15:11 | Widget | dinah: I do not remember it playing in New Zealand. |
| 19:15:22 | patlabor221 | well if a movie dosn't have huge explosions or boobies we don't like them here |
| 19:16:04 | Chestal | dinah: patch must be applied to clean CVS |
| 19:16:06 | dinah | yes and we brits do seem to say cunt a bit much for the american taste |
| 19:16:19 | patlabor221 | how woudl one apply the patch on windows? |
| 19:16:55 | Chestal | patlabor: hmm, don't know, maybe using cygwin? |
| 19:16:56 | patlabor221 | d: well for the average bible belt drone, yes |
| 19:17:12 | dinah | Chestal: got a clean one now |
| 19:17:16 | Chestal | dinah: ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/user/thilo/hudswitch.diff |
| 19:18:12 | dinah | alright now what? |
| 19:18:44 | Chestal | same as before, do patch < hudswitch.diff -p0 from main bzflag directory (assuming you have clean, unpatched CVS there) |
| 19:19:46 | dinah | then make-linux-i386? and all that? |
| 19:19:57 | Chestal | yes |
| 19:20:01 | Widget | make clean first |
| 19:20:06 | Widget | Wait. |
| 19:20:08 | Widget | No need. |
| 19:21:46 | dinah | well im gonna give it a whirl now. :-) |
| 19:23:15 | dinah | hmmm i chose the modern hud and nothing changed? |
| 19:23:39 | Chestal | dinah: it reads 'restart required' |
| 19:24:00 | dinah | umm pardon? |
| 19:24:26 | Chestal | in the option menu, it sayd 'HUD style (restart required): ...' |
| 19:24:31 | Chestal | so, you have to change it, quit bzflag and restart |
| 19:24:43 | Chestal | woul dbe nifty to do it on the fly, but I figured it's not worth the hassle |
| 19:24:50 | Chestal | because you'll usually only change this once |
| 19:25:18 | dinah | well what about some of the less obvios options, will they change on the fly? |
| 19:25:33 | Chestal | all other options should, yes |
| 19:26:22 | Chestal | heh, captain |
| 19:26:28 | Chestal | I got some questions :-) |
| 19:26:31 | captain_proton | 'lo Chestal |
| 19:26:34 | captain_proton | shoot |
| 19:26:38 | dinah | not to be ungratefull but howabout a "smaller" font size option? |
| 19:26:49 | Chestal | regarding HUD changes,I suppose the changes are yours |
| 19:26:59 | captain_proton | for the most part, yes |
| 19:27:05 | Chestal | dinah: what resolution? |
| 19:27:13 | Chestal | dinah: and which fonts are too large? |
| 19:27:50 | dinah | 800x600 window on a 24in moniter with 19000 resolution... |
| 19:27:57 | Chestal | captain: ok, in HUDRenderer.cxx in setMInorFOntSize: |
| 19:28:14 | Chestal | dinah: that's the resolution I use fullscreen and the fonts are the same size as in e4 |
| 19:28:31 | tad_busy_AND_gon | moo |
| 19:28:37 | Chestal | captain: const float spacing = minorFont.getWidth(""); |
| 19:28:42 | Chestal | it used to be (" ") |
| 19:29:00 | dinah | there nearly 1.5cm in that li'le box! |
| 19:29:42 | Chestal | but I think the font sizes are still not optimal, maybe there should be 3 font size settings |
| 19:30:08 | Chestal | dinah: so, you'd like a smaller fonts in the message area? |
| 19:30:12 | tad_busy_AND_gon | anything new in 1.7 since yesterday? I should know about |
| 19:30:13 | dinah | yes. large medium and for god sakes a small! |
| 19:30:45 | dinah | if its not to much trouble that is... |
| 19:30:46 | Chestal | tad: well, I've been extending akira's patch |
| 19:31:10 | Chestal | dinah: more people should test it, then we might get an idea of which font sizes to use best |
| 19:31:23 | Chestal | captain: saw my question and the line I pasted? |
| 19:31:27 | patlabor221 | oh cap: akira had some ideas about particles that he came up with that he wanted me to tell you |
| 19:31:42 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ah |
| 19:31:57 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 19:32:02 | tad_busy_AND_gon | I think I found a bug.... |
| 19:32:09 | tad_busy_AND_gon | when you pause.... |
| 19:32:16 | tad_busy_AND_gon | and switch out of the game |
| 19:32:20 | tad_busy_AND_gon | and come back in |
| 19:32:21 | captain_proton | Chestal: ahh |
| 19:32:27 | tad_busy_AND_gon | you can hear the sound.... |
| 19:32:35 | tad_busy_AND_gon | even though it was paused |
| 19:32:37 | captain_proton | Chestal: tim changed it to size fonts based on the screen resolution |
| 19:32:52 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bug? |
| 19:32:58 | dinah | tad; what are you talking about? its fine for me |
| 19:33:06 | Chestal | captain: hmm, yes, well, it did before, but now it chooses font type based on resolution, too |
| 19:33:12 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 19:33:18 | tad_busy_AND_gon | it did it for me... |
| 19:33:21 | Chestal | captain: but does the "" make sense at all? I am just wondering if this is a bug |
| 19:33:24 | tad_busy_AND_gon | in windowz of course |
| 19:33:27 | Chestal | captain: not that it's a big issue |
| 19:33:45 | captain_proton | Chestal: you would have to ask tim, but i think its just an artifact from the change |
| 19:33:49 | tad_busy_AND_gon | it was akiras game |
| 19:33:54 | Chestal | tad: hmm, I'm not sure, there was a different bug with pausing and sound that was fixed |
| 19:34:06 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 19:34:07 | Chestal | captain: ok, question 2 :-) |
| 19:34:14 | tad_busy_AND_gon | but this is e6 |
| 19:34:24 | tad_busy_AND_gon | akiras patch |
| 19:34:31 | tad_busy_AND_gon | maybe it broke it? |
| 19:34:34 | Chestal | captain: when drawing the target box, there are two GL_LINE_LOOPs |
| 19:34:48 | captain_proton | right |
| 19:34:48 | Chestal | the new HUD duplicates each with GL_POINTS, what does that do? |
| 19:35:17 | captain_proton | on some resolutions, it would draw the lines but miss the corners |
| 19:35:26 | captain_proton | so the points makes sure its a true box |
| 19:35:29 | tad_busy_AND_gon | is puzzled and starts on another topic |
| 19:35:33 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ok |
| 19:35:42 | tad_busy_AND_gon | about bots in 1.8..... |
| 19:36:02 | captain_proton | there are no bots in 1.8 ;) |
| 19:36:06 | tad_busy_AND_gon | no? |
| 19:36:08 | tad_busy_AND_gon | none? |
| 19:36:11 | Chestal | tad: no, the other bug was different. When you paused, game muted, but when you died whenpaused (genocide, flag captured), you were unpaused, but soudn was gone forever |
| 19:36:11 | tad_busy_AND_gon | never? |
| 19:36:17 | Chestal | not yet |
| 19:36:25 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ah |
| 19:36:27 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 19:36:32 | tad_busy_AND_gon | Chestal thx |
| 19:36:34 | captain_proton | the existing bot code was ripped out |
| 19:36:36 | tad_busy_AND_gon | oh |
| 19:36:38 | tad_busy_AND_gon | soo |
| 19:36:44 | tad_busy_AND_gon | will it have a bot API? |
| 19:36:48 | Chestal | captain: ah ok, so this should not be specific to the new HUD? |
| 19:36:49 | captain_proton | we'll probably write a library or scripting language at some point for them |
| 19:36:53 | captain_proton | Chestal: no |
| 19:36:57 | tad_busy_AND_gon | yea |
| 19:37:04 | tad_busy_AND_gon | I can write bots. |
| 19:37:07 | tad_busy_AND_gon | :) |
| 19:37:44 | Chestal | tad: a bot API would be very nice, but it's not very easy. We'd have to decouple game logic and GUI better first |
| 19:38:12 | dinah | lets add the bots from quakeIII tanks vs. men :-P |
| 19:38:49 | captain_proton | its getting there - most game objects are separated except for a single addBlahSceneNode(s) function |
| 19:38:54 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ah ok |
| 19:38:58 | tad_busy_AND_gon | lol |
| 19:39:14 | Chestal | captain: are they? I haven't checked current 1.8 code, but in 1.7 it is all mangled |
| 19:39:29 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 19:39:30 | Chestal | but we still need to extract game logic from main playing loop better |
| 19:39:40 | captain_proton | Chestal: its better, but not great |
| 19:40:00 | tad_busy_AND_gon | I would like to script robots in the game.... |
| 19:40:03 | tad_busy_AND_gon | :) |
| 19:40:05 | Chestal | I would expect a bot to have no GUI at all, just command line |
| 19:40:11 | tad_busy_AND_gon | yea |
| 19:40:14 | patlabor221 | Q3 bots blew, UT bots :) |
| 19:40:22 | tad_busy_AND_gon | patlabor221? |
| 19:40:33 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ut? |
| 19:40:35 | tad_busy_AND_gon | UT? |
| 19:40:43 | captain_proton | Chestal: ok, done with the ?s? |
| 19:40:44 | patlabor221 | Unreal tournement |
| 19:40:48 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ah |
| 19:40:50 | tad_busy_AND_gon | silly |
| 19:40:50 | dinah | hmmm bots from the original wolfenstine perhaps? |
| 19:41:02 | patlabor221 | "ACUTUNG" |
| 19:41:09 | tad_busy_AND_gon | real man play operation flash point |
| 19:41:14 | Chestal | ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/user/thilo/hudswitch.diff <--- big 1.7 patch which allows you to switch between classic and modern HUD styles (including other options known from akira's patch, too) |
| 19:41:57 | captain_proton | you need panel.rgb, no? |
| 19:42:03 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ah |
| 19:42:19 | tad_busy_AND_gon | what do I do with that file? |
| 19:42:27 | captain_proton | as its no longer part of cvs/e6 |
| 19:42:27 | Chestal | captain: ehm, yes, but this is stillpart of e6 :-) |
| 19:42:36 | Chestal | it is in e7 |
| 19:42:39 | captain_proton | it is?? |
| 19:42:41 | tad_busy_AND_gon | e7? |
| 19:42:43 | Chestal | cvs co downloaded it |
| 19:42:46 | captain_proton | i thought it was removed |
| 19:42:47 | tad_busy_AND_gon | e7 your working on? |
| 19:42:48 | captain_proton | shrugs |
| 19:42:56 | captain_proton | patlabor221: ok, what did akira want? |
| 19:42:58 | tad_busy_AND_gon | why? |
| 19:43:02 | tad_busy_AND_gon | work on 1.8 |
| 19:43:03 | tad_busy_AND_gon | :) |
| 19:43:17 | tad_busy_AND_gon | is off to admire the rain in 1.8 |
| 19:43:41 | patlabor221 | he had an idea about how to no have to rebuild the index list every time |
| 19:44:10 | patlabor221 | the basic idea was that when a particle was dead, set all its indecies to the same index |
| 19:44:23 | patlabor221 | then GL would detect that the tri's wer coincedent |
| 19:44:28 | patlabor221 | and skip it |
| 19:44:40 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:44:47 | captain_proton | you're still sending it down the pipe though |
| 19:44:49 | patlabor221 | he was checking into the spec to see if gl does that type of check |
| 19:45:02 | patlabor221 | depends on where the check is done |
| 19:45:22 | patlabor221 | I think it's gonna be difrent on difrent implementaions |
| 19:45:30 | tad_busy_AND_gon | no rain sound in 1.8? |
| 19:45:32 | captain_proton | yeah - but its almost certainly done in hardware |
| 19:45:33 | tad_busy_AND_gon | sighs |
| 19:45:36 | captain_proton | tad_busy_AND_gon: not yet |
| 19:45:42 | tad_busy_AND_gon | rats |
| 19:45:43 | captain_proton | is rewriting all the sound stuff as we speak |
| 19:45:43 | tad_busy_AND_gon | :) |
| 19:45:47 | tad_busy_AND_gon | cool |
| 19:45:56 | tad_busy_AND_gon | 5.1 sound system? |
| 19:46:01 | Chestal | captain: does it do ogg vorbis yet? :-) |
| 19:46:05 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ooh |
| 19:46:11 | tad_busy_AND_gon | with muisic? |
| 19:46:13 | patlabor221 | it prlaby will be done in HW, but that means it can be faster then doing it with the CPU, if it's implemented right |
| 19:46:13 | tad_busy_AND_gon | music? |
| 19:46:27 | tad_busy_AND_gon | in bzflag? |
| 19:46:29 | captain_proton | Chestal: no, but when i finish adding ogg encoding will be trivial ;) |
| 19:46:34 | freelancer | nhi all ,hi captain |
| 19:46:34 | captain_proton | err |
| 19:46:35 | captain_proton | decoding |
| 19:46:42 | tad_busy_AND_gon | nhi freelancer |
| 19:46:45 | captain_proton | you can RECORD YOUR INSULTS! |
| 19:46:47 | patlabor221 | ok that makes more sence |
| 19:46:50 | tad_busy_AND_gon | lol |
| 19:46:50 | Chestal | hmm, we need recording and replay in 1.8 |
| 19:46:51 | patlabor221 | that would be funny |
| 19:46:56 | Chestal | is that on the idea lists? |
| 19:46:57 | tad_busy_AND_gon | yea |
| 19:46:57 | patlabor221 | tank game and cd ripper all in one |
| 19:47:02 | tad_busy_AND_gon | lol |
| 19:47:09 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 19:47:14 | captain_proton | patlabor221: all it needs now is to read news |
| 19:47:20 | freelancer | just heard of a new patch |
| 19:47:27 | patlabor221 | and check mail |
| 19:47:41 | captain_proton | in the words of jwz: all programs evolve until they can read news |
| 19:47:46 | tad_busy_AND_gon | will the karma system be hooked up to bzflag.org/league? |
| 19:47:51 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm? |
| 19:47:52 | patlabor221 | cus I wana see my porn spam while I'm shoting things |
| 19:47:55 | Chestal | freelancer: well, yes, I extended akira's patch, 1st version is available, source only |
| 19:48:11 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you don't need email for that - just sign up to some alt.binaries list ;) |
| 19:48:15 | freelancer | thx Chestal |
| 19:48:37 | Chestal | freelancer: you already tried akira's patch? he has a windows binary for download |
| 19:48:44 | tad_busy_AND_gon | heh |
| 19:48:55 | tad_busy_AND_gon | I can recompile the latest for windows if ya want |
| 19:48:56 | freelancer | i use mrapathy's |
| 19:49:14 | freelancer | don't know akiras web adfdress |
| 19:49:15 | Chestal | what does it add? adjustable opacity? |
| 19:49:22 | freelancer | yes |
| 19:49:47 | captain_proton | Chestal: i would like to see some sort of optional VoIP chat in 1.8, but i'm not saying i want to do it |
| 19:49:56 | tad_busy_AND_gon | yea!!!! |
| 19:50:01 | tad_busy_AND_gon | :) |
| 19:50:07 | Chestal | freelancer: http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~gumz/dateien/bzflag/ |
| 19:50:12 | tad_busy_AND_gon | VoIP would be very good |
| 19:50:19 | freelancer | nthanks |
| 19:50:21 | Chestal | bzflag-chest-akira.zip is the one to try |
| 19:50:26 | dinah | od rather not here some silly tanker screaming in my ear... |
| 19:50:29 | freelancer | ok |
| 19:50:30 | Chestal | it does not include my newest changes yet |
| 19:50:40 | tad_busy_AND_gon | dinah: so? |
| 19:50:59 | freelancer | no promblem |
| 19:51:05 | dinah | if 1.8 get voice over ip ill never ever use it |
| 19:51:13 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah |
| 19:51:18 | tad_busy_AND_gon | just turn it off |
| 19:51:20 | tad_busy_AND_gon | :) |
| 19:52:04 | captain_proton | dinah: i said optional |
| 19:52:22 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah |
| 19:52:25 | captain_proton | or did you mean 'not use voip' instead of 'not use 1.8' ? |
| 19:52:27 | tad_busy_AND_gon | so e7 is CVS? |
| 19:52:32 | Chestal | we should integrate an irc client |
| 19:52:36 | tad_busy_AND_gon | yea!!! |
| 19:52:38 | Chestal | tad: yes |
| 19:52:39 | tad_busy_AND_gon | IRC!!!! |
| 19:52:45 | tad_busy_AND_gon | Chestal ok |
| 19:52:47 | captain_proton | e7 is CVS branch v1_7, 1.8 is CVS HEAD |
| 19:52:54 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ah, ok |
| 19:52:57 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah |
| 19:53:06 | dinah | captain_proton: i meant what i said |
| 19:53:26 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah @ CVS |
| 19:53:38 | captain_proton | dinah: aha |
| 19:53:58 | captain_proton | but did you say what you mean? |
| 19:54:10 | tad_busy_AND_gon | hmm |
| 19:54:11 | Chestal | I'm off for now, cu |
| 19:54:14 | tad_busy_AND_gon | cya |
| 19:54:15 | dinah | no i did not |
| 19:54:20 | tad_busy_AND_gon | sheesh!!! |
| 19:54:38 | dinah | Chestal: by luv ;) |
| 19:55:02 | tad_busy_AND_gon | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag -z3 co v1_7 |
| 19:55:05 | tad_busy_AND_gon | right? |
| 19:55:20 | captain_proton | co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 19:55:25 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ack |
| 19:55:25 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ok |
| 19:55:36 | tad_busy_AND_gon | bah two times @ CVS |
| 19:55:50 | tad_busy_AND_gon | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 19:55:50 | tad_busy_AND_gon | right? |
| 19:55:58 | dinah | hums bah bah black sheep |
| 19:56:04 | tad_busy_AND_gon | moo |
| 19:56:33 | tad_busy_AND_gon | downloads CVS |
| 19:57:28 | tad_busy_AND_gon | will you port bzflag to VB? |
| 19:57:39 | Widget | is away: |
| 19:57:41 | Widget | is away: |
| 19:57:49 | tad_busy_AND_gon | laughs an evil laugh |
| 19:58:46 | tad_busy_AND_gon | compiles bzflag |
| 19:59:05 | tad_busy_AND_gon | VB = Visual Basic |
| 19:59:35 | tad_busy_AND_gon | moos and kicks a whole in the wall |
| 19:59:52 | tad_busy_AND_gon | fine |
| 19:59:56 | tad_busy_AND_gon | ignore me then |
| 20:00:47 | tad_busy_AND_gon | compiles bzflag 1.7 e7 |
| 20:00:52 | tad_busy_AND_gon | rolls his eyes |
| 20:04:07 | arathorn | hi all |
| 20:04:19 | Doug_busy_gone | hi |
| 20:04:21 | Doug_busy_gone | hello |
| 20:04:24 | Doug_busy_gone | hey |
| 20:04:29 | patlabor221 | VB would just be hard |
| 20:04:30 | arathorn | :)) |
| 20:04:34 | Doug_busy_gone | greetings |
| 20:04:40 | Doug_busy_gone | VB is dumb |
| 20:04:44 | patlabor221 | very |
| 20:04:47 | Doug_busy_gone | quite |
| 20:05:00 | Doug_busy_gone | is tad |
| 20:05:22 | captain_proton | returns with a bagel smothered in hummus |
| 20:05:33 | Doug_busy_gone | captain_proton!!!!! |
| 20:05:41 | Doug_busy_gone | where is chestals new code? |
| 20:05:46 | Doug_busy_gone | its not in CVS? |
| 20:05:56 | captain_proton | ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/user/thilo/hudswitch.diff |
| 20:05:56 | patlabor221 | mmmmm begal |
| 20:05:57 | iLLf8d | brb |
| 20:06:01 | Doug_busy_gone | ah |
| 20:06:07 | Doug_busy_gone | how do I compile it in? |
| 20:06:12 | captain_proton | download it |
| 20:06:15 | captain_proton | cd bzflag |
| 20:06:15 | Doug_busy_gone | yea |
| 20:06:18 | Doug_busy_gone | yea |
| 20:06:21 | captain_proton | patch -p1 < ../hudswitch.diff |
| 20:06:21 | Doug_busy_gone | ok |
| 20:06:25 | captain_proton | then compile as normal |
| 20:06:27 | Doug_busy_gone | ack? |
| 20:06:30 | Doug_busy_gone | linux..... |
| 20:06:36 | Doug_busy_gone | bah @ linux |
| 20:06:43 | captain_proton | there's some patch util for windows |
| 20:06:50 | Doug_busy_gone | oh? |
| 20:06:51 | Doug_busy_gone | ok |
| 20:06:53 | Doug_busy_gone | brb |
| 20:08:23 | Doug_busy_gone | hehe |
| 20:08:27 | Doug_busy_gone | nice touch |
| 20:09:52 | Doug_busy_gone | bah |
| 20:10:01 | Doug_busy_gone | google is great sometimes.... |
| 20:10:06 | Doug_busy_gone | bah @ patch |
| 20:10:14 | captain_proton | use linux |
| 20:10:21 | Doug_busy_gone | heh |
| 20:10:32 | Doug_busy_gone | windows rules in gaming though |
| 20:10:45 | dinah | does not |
| 20:10:45 | Doug_busy_gone | once they port directX 8.1 to linux..... |
| 20:10:56 | Doug_busy_gone | GOOD BYE WINDOWS!!! |
| 20:10:59 | Doug_busy_gone | does to |
| 20:11:10 | dinah | sof is better on linux |
| 20:11:16 | Doug_busy_gone | sof? |
| 20:11:21 | Doug_busy_gone | never heard of it |
| 20:11:25 | dinah | soldier of fourtune |
| 20:11:31 | Doug_busy_gone | ugh |
| 20:11:33 | Doug_busy_gone | free? |
| 20:11:40 | captain_proton | dinah: you play violent games |
| 20:11:41 | dinah | well yes |
| 20:11:49 | Doug_busy_gone | violent? |
| 20:12:14 | Doug_busy_gone | as in blowing up other people into little pieces and splatter then on the walls? |
| 20:12:16 | dinah | i have bejewlled as well |
| 20:12:56 | Doug_busy_gone | is those games free? |
| 20:13:00 | patlabor221 | Marathon was the best game EVER :) |
| 20:13:09 | Doug_busy_gone | marathon? |
| 20:13:12 | Doug_busy_gone | bah |
| 20:13:13 | patlabor221 | marathon |
| 20:13:22 | Doug_busy_gone | maraTHON? |
| 20:13:27 | dinah | nethack |
| 20:13:33 | Doug_busy_gone | nethack is good Ithink |
| 20:13:34 | patlabor221 | pong |
| 20:13:41 | Doug_busy_gone | not multiplayer though |
| 20:13:44 | Doug_busy_gone | pong |
| 20:13:44 | dinah | tuxracer |
| 20:13:48 | Doug_busy_gone | w00t |
| 20:13:53 | Doug_busy_gone | tuxracer rulez |
| 20:14:07 | patlabor221 | hey now, the first pong machine was installed the day I was born |
| 20:14:12 | dinah | for sayin w00t im adding you to my ignore list |
| 20:14:13 | Doug_busy_gone | bah |
| 20:14:15 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 20:14:19 | Doug_busy_gone | what? |
| 20:14:23 | captain_proton | the doppler effect computation is soooooooo simple |
| 20:14:28 | captain_proton | *sampleStep = double(1.0 + velX * e->dx + velY * e->dy); |
| 20:14:28 | Doug_busy_gone | lol |
| 20:14:30 | captain_proton | thats it |
| 20:14:35 | Doug_busy_gone | thats it |
| 20:14:39 | Doug_busy_gone | thats it? |
| 20:14:41 | Doug_busy_gone | bah |
| 20:14:50 | Doug_busy_gone | try thinking that out in your head |
| 20:14:58 | patlabor221 | yeah it's just a relitive vector thing |
| 20:15:12 | Doug_busy_gone | hmm |
| 20:15:17 | captain_proton | it makes sense, but damn...i figured it would be much more complicatedcx |
| 20:15:31 | Doug_busy_gone | lol |
| 20:15:35 | Doug_busy_gone | me too |
| 20:16:07 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 20:16:38 | dinah | wishes there was a counter that would say if ignored people were talking |
| 20:17:42 | captain_proton | this sound stuff is scary |
| 20:17:45 | captain_proton | its so Cish |
| 20:17:46 | Doug_busy_gone | heh |
| 20:17:49 | Doug_busy_gone | cish? |
| 20:18:08 | captain_proton | uses int instead of bool |
| 20:18:16 | Doug_busy_gone | oops |
| 20:18:18 | captain_proton | no classes anywhere to be seen |
| 20:18:23 | Doug_busy_gone | never type /part |
| 20:18:38 | Doug_busy_gone | :) |
| 20:19:06 | captain_proton | uses pointers to make a function set multiple data members instead of references |
| 20:19:21 | Doug_busy_not_go | haha dinah |
| 20:19:23 | captain_proton | predefines variables |
| 20:19:28 | Doug_busy_not_go | hmm |
| 20:19:30 | Doug_busy_not_go | wierd |
| 20:19:33 | captain_proton | its awful |
| 20:19:39 | captain_proton | makes me wonder why its called sound.cxx |
| 20:19:47 | Doug_busy_not_go | heh |
| 20:20:24 | patlabor221 | proalby just so it'll use the C++ compiler |
| 20:20:36 | Doug_busy_not_go | lol |
| 20:20:38 | captain_proton | true |
| 20:20:48 | captain_proton | i guess we only introduced .c files in 1.8 with zlib |
| 20:20:48 | patlabor221 | I've seen it done like that a lot |
| 20:21:22 | patlabor221 | under VC6 there can be some issue of one part of a module is done with the C and another wiht teh CPP comiler |
| 20:21:30 | patlabor221 | and if they call stuff in each other |
| 20:21:44 | patlabor221 | difrent name mangaling i guess |
| 20:21:46 | Doug_busy_not_go | hmm? |
| 20:21:49 | Doug_busy_not_go | I have 6 |
| 20:22:26 | captain_proton | i name name mangling |
| 20:22:28 | captain_proton | err |
| 20:22:29 | captain_proton | hate* |
| 20:22:38 | Doug_busy_not_go | lol |
| 20:22:55 | Doug_busy_not_go | dont mangle words.... |
| 20:24:13 | captain_proton | wtf |
| 20:24:19 | captain_proton | if (audioBufferSize > *len) { |
| 20:24:20 | captain_proton | for (n = *len; n < audioBufferSize; n += 2) |
| 20:24:20 | captain_proton | scratch[n] = scratch[n+1] = 0.0f; |
| 20:24:20 | captain_proton | *len = audioBufferSize; |
| 20:24:20 | captain_proton | } |
| 20:24:23 | captain_proton | patlabor221: does that make any sense? |
| 20:24:28 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 20:24:54 | patlabor221 | is it trying to make it bigger? |
| 20:25:13 | captain_proton | i think the idea is to fill the scratch buffer with 0 if the length is shorter than the buffer |
| 20:25:17 | captain_proton | but as it is, it looks like a bug |
| 20:25:24 | patlabor221 | that don't look right |
| 20:25:35 | patlabor221 | looks like they tried to unroll the loop |
| 20:25:50 | captain_proton | not unroll |
| 20:25:52 | captain_proton | its stereo |
| 20:25:56 | patlabor221 | ohh |
| 20:25:57 | patlabor221 | got it |
| 20:27:03 | captain_proton | it seems to me there's a fundamental contradiction |
| 20:27:10 | iLlf8d | heh |
| 20:27:14 | patlabor221 | the test and the loop |
| 20:27:19 | captain_proton | hmm wait a sec |
| 20:27:20 | iLlf8d | note to self don't less -f /dev/port |
| 20:27:26 | captain_proton | ergh |
| 20:27:29 | captain_proton | nevermind =/ |
| 20:27:43 | patlabor221 | they reversed teh test paramaters |
| 20:27:46 | patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 20:27:54 | patlabor221 | go from end to len |
| 20:27:59 | patlabor221 | in incements of 2 |
| 20:28:06 | captain_proton | reorders the if |
| 20:28:19 | patlabor221 | it'll make it easyer to read |
| 20:28:39 | | Doug_busy_not_go: huh? |
| 20:28:39 | Doug_busy_not_go | ibot magic8 |
| 20:28:50 | patlabor221 | do you realy need the if? |
| 20:29:03 | patlabor221 | if len >= it'll just not lopp |
| 20:29:06 | patlabor221 | loop even |
| 20:30:24 | captain_proton | but it sets *len to the buffer size |
| 20:31:31 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:31:40 | patlabor221 | you need it then,ether there or at the end |
| 20:32:05 | | But they went to MARS around 1953!! |
| 20:32:05 | Doug_busy_not_go | ibot be zippy |
| 20:32:25 | | Doug_busy_not_go: i'm not following you... |
| 20:32:25 | Doug_busy_not_go | ibot divine |
| 20:33:52 | captain_proton | Doug_busy_not_go: do it in PM |
| 20:35:20 | taD_gone | hello? |
| 20:35:33 | taD_gone | hello? |
| 20:39:04 | captain_proton | 3d audio is quite a bit simpler than i imagined |
| 20:39:31 | Doug_busy_not_go | heh |
| 20:39:33 | Doug_busy_not_go | hmm |
| 20:39:34 | patlabor221 | it gets nastyer when you try to do oclusion, and sound reflections |
| 20:39:41 | Doug_busy_not_go | yikes |
| 20:39:57 | captain_proton | patlabor221: thats when you give up and use OpenAL ;) |
| 20:40:01 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:40:22 | patlabor221 | put simple position velocity and distance are not hard at all |
| 20:40:46 | patlabor221 | realy just vectors and some paramaters |
| 20:40:52 | Doug_busy_not_go | boo |
| 20:43:31 | | no idea, doug_busy_not_go |
| 20:43:31 | Doug_busy_not_go | ibot doug? |
| 20:44:02 | | Doug_busy_not_go: excuse me? |
| 20:44:02 | Doug_busy_not_go | ibot doug => <reply> the smartest person on eart |
| 20:44:28 | dinah | if a chap with win wants the new patch what must he do? |
| 20:44:32 | | Doug_busy_not_go: what? |
| 20:44:32 | Doug_busy_not_go | ibot doug = <reply> the smartest person on earth |
| 20:44:58 | | OK, paulj. |
| 20:44:58 | paulj | ibot doug is the smartest person on earth |
| 20:45:04 | | it has been said that doug is the smartest person on earth |
| 20:45:04 | paulj | ibot doug? |
| 20:45:11 | Doug_busy_not_go | no no |
| 20:45:19 | Doug_busy_not_go | x => <reply> y |
| 20:45:27 | | Doug_busy_not_go: I forgot doug |
| 20:45:27 | Doug_busy_not_go | ibot forget doug |
| 20:45:40 | | Doug_busy_not_go: sorry... |
| 20:45:40 | Doug_busy_not_go | ibot doug => the smartest person on earth |
| 20:45:43 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 20:46:04 | paulj | ah.. dont know that syntax. (get the source.. infobot.org.) |
| 20:46:10 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea |
| 20:46:11 | Doug_busy_not_go | I have it |
| 20:46:25 | paulj | well then?? :) |
| 20:46:29 | dinah | well could a windows chap get the new patch? arathorn is very intrested... |
| 20:46:44 | Doug_busy_not_go | A note on forms: you can prepend the tag <reply> to values in the db to just get a reply with no extra info. |
| 20:46:45 | Doug_busy_not_go | e.g. |
| 20:46:45 | Doug_busy_not_go | x => <reply> y |
| 20:46:45 | Doug_busy_not_go | then when you ask 'x?' it will just reply 'y' instead of something like "i think x is y". |
| 20:47:05 | Doug_busy_not_go | dinah: I could compile it if captain_proton could give me his patched version |
| 20:47:10 | paulj | dinah: get the cygwin tools - it should have patch, or at least allow you to compile patch. |
| 20:47:15 | captain_proton | i don't have a patched version |
| 20:47:20 | Doug_busy_not_go | ih |
| 20:47:42 | Doug_busy_not_go | all I want is the patched .diff |
| 20:47:46 | Doug_busy_not_go | :( |
| 20:47:48 | Doug_busy_not_go | :) |
| 20:47:49 | Doug_busy_not_go | :( |
| 20:47:50 | Doug_busy_not_go | :) |
| 20:48:38 | dinah | whats the difference between the diff and the patched diff |
| 20:49:04 | Doug_busy_not_go | ah |
| 20:49:12 | Doug_busy_not_go | wish you know huh? |
| 20:49:22 | paulj | the diff is the patch |
| 20:49:35 | paulj | you apply a diff (or patch) wtih the 'patch' command. |
| 20:49:37 | dinah | i know i have that and have it compiled |
| 20:49:42 | paulj | ok.. so? |
| 20:50:15 | dinah | so i know a windows chap. how does he get it? |
| 20:50:23 | Doug_busy_not_go | ah |
| 20:50:30 | Doug_busy_not_go | someone needs a windows version |
| 20:50:54 | dinah | wait can i tell my machine to make the windows version? |
| 20:51:01 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 20:51:06 | Doug_busy_not_go | tell dinah no |
| 20:51:08 | paulj | difficult.. |
| 20:51:09 | paulj | :) |
| 20:51:13 | Doug_busy_not_go | heh |
| 20:51:23 | paulj | (doable in theory though) |
| 20:51:24 | Doug_busy_not_go | tell her I can compile it for her |
| 20:51:37 | Doug_busy_not_go | is she can give me the .diff file |
| 20:51:44 | Doug_busy_not_go | paulj tell her that |
| 20:51:50 | paulj | ? |
| 20:51:51 | Doug_busy_not_go | she has me on ignore |
| 20:51:55 | Doug_busy_not_go | :( |
| 20:51:57 | paulj | ah.. why? |
| 20:52:07 | patlabor221 | he used w00t |
| 20:52:07 | Doug_busy_not_go | hmm |
| 20:52:09 | Doug_busy_not_go | dunno |
| 20:52:12 | Doug_busy_not_go | ah |
| 20:52:14 | Doug_busy_not_go | oh yea |
| 20:52:23 | Doug_busy_not_go | whats wrong with that? |
| 20:52:29 | paulj | dinah: if you have the .diff file, give it to doug, he'll compile a win version for you. |
| 20:52:31 | captain_proton | Doug_busy_not_go: i pointed you to the .diff file |
| 20:52:33 | dinah | dont make me ignore you patlabor221 |
| 20:52:45 | patlabor221 | I was just telling him what he did |
| 20:52:48 | Doug_busy_not_go | I have the .dif |
| 20:52:54 | Doug_busy_not_go | but I cant patch it |
| 20:52:55 | paulj | eh?? what's wrong with w00t? |
| 20:53:02 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:53:09 | patlabor221 | awww crap there you did it |
| 20:53:11 | captain_proton | soon i'll be the only one dinah can hear... |
| 20:53:14 | paulj | Doug_busy_not_go: you mean you cant get the diff to apply? |
| 20:53:14 | dinah | considers w00t and l33t and such shite |
| 20:53:15 | Doug_busy_not_go | I need the patched version |
| 20:53:27 | paulj | wtf is w00t? |
| 20:53:36 | Doug_busy_not_go | no, I need patch program to patch the file |
| 20:53:41 | dinah | its shite script kiddie talk |
| 20:53:42 | Doug_busy_not_go | w00t is woot |
| 20:53:52 | paulj | Doug_busy_not_go: ok - you want the full source code from dinah (ie with patch already applied?) |
| 20:53:54 | patlabor221 | a term use by many a "leet gamer" to express joy and sucess |
| 20:54:01 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 20:54:06 | Doug_busy_not_go | just the .DIFF file |
| 20:54:20 | patlabor221 | usualy EW players |
| 20:54:21 | Doug_busy_not_go | patlabor221 exatly |
| 20:54:44 | patlabor221 | I hate trying to read that crap |
| 20:54:54 | paulj | Doug_busy_not_go: but isnt that what i said to dinah the first time round? (scroll up - i said "dinah: give doug the .diff") |
| 20:54:57 | paulj | is confused |
| 20:55:01 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea |
| 20:55:07 | paulj | ok :) |
| 20:55:17 | patlabor221 | you use the "W" word you may be blocked |
| 20:55:20 | captain_proton | paulj: he has the .diff - he just can't figure out how to download a windows patch util ;)\ |
| 20:55:31 | paulj | ah... |
| 20:55:35 | Doug_busy_not_go | npo |
| 20:55:36 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 20:55:38 | patlabor221 | I got cygwin and it seemd to work |
| 20:55:39 | Doug_busy_not_go | I cant find one |
| 20:55:41 | paulj | right... |
| 20:55:52 | paulj | cygwin - it includes 'patch' iirc. |
| 20:55:54 | Doug_busy_not_go | google is useless on that type of stuff |
| 20:55:56 | paulj | then what you do is: |
| 20:55:57 | Doug_busy_not_go | ah? |
| 20:56:00 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 20:56:00 | captain_proton | Doug_busy_not_go: go get cygwin, make sure you select dos format text files, then run the linux command |
| 20:56:02 | Doug_busy_not_go | let me try... |
| 20:56:05 | paulj | cd <bzflag-source> |
| 20:56:12 | Doug_busy_not_go | brb |
| 20:56:24 | paulj | pathc -pX < thepatch.diff |
| 20:56:26 | patlabor221 | I just didn't have a clean 1.7 to run it on here |
| 20:56:28 | paulj | or even: |
| 20:56:35 | Doug_busy_not_go | ah |
| 20:56:36 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 20:56:38 | paulj | patch -pX < thepatch.diff |
| 20:56:42 | dinah | hasn't said a thing for pages and pages |
| 20:56:49 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 20:56:50 | paulj | where X can be anything from 0 up. |
| 20:57:01 | patlabor221 | D: dpeends on how big your pages are |
| 20:57:01 | Doug_busy_not_go | I need the link agian |
| 20:57:04 | Doug_busy_not_go | I lost the file |
| 20:57:06 | paulj | (you need to examine the top of the diff file to see how it was made and what path it is relative to) |
| 20:57:12 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 20:57:24 | captain_proton | should be -p1 |
| 20:57:34 | paulj | Doug_busy_not_go: there you go -p1... |
| 20:57:35 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 20:57:40 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 20:57:46 | Doug_busy_not_go | link? |
| 20:57:56 | captain_proton | google.com |
| 20:58:02 | paulj | LOL |
| 20:58:02 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 20:58:10 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 20:58:12 | Doug_busy_not_go | the .diff |
| 20:58:14 | Doug_busy_not_go | file... |
| 20:58:25 | paulj | come on doug.... put a wee bit of effort into it. |
| 20:58:33 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 20:58:40 | captain_proton | scroll farking up |
| 20:58:44 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 20:58:51 | patlabor221 | use the wheel |
| 20:58:55 | patlabor221 | less energy |
| 20:58:57 | Doug_busy_not_go | I got disconneted |
| 20:59:06 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 20:59:10 | Doug_busy_not_go | logs are good |
| 20:59:40 | captain_proton | Doug_busy_not_go: uhm - no you didn't |
| 20:59:51 | Doug_busy_not_go | um |
| 21:00:05 | Widget | captain_proton: Maybe he uses an IRC Proxy. |
| 21:00:05 | Doug_busy_not_go | well its not up there |
| 21:00:11 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 21:00:14 | Doug_busy_not_go | look |
| 21:00:18 | paulj | so google... |
| 21:00:19 | Widget | captain_proton: So we don't see when he's disconnected, because his client just detatches from the proxy. |
| 21:00:25 | Doug_busy_not_go | I left the channel |
| 21:00:27 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok? |
| 21:00:41 | patlabor221 | here I'll DDC it to you |
| 21:00:44 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:00:46 | captain_proton | bah - use a real IRC client that doesn't close the window/tab when you part |
| 21:00:46 | Doug_busy_not_go | send it... |
| 21:01:09 | Doug_busy_not_go | sending it? |
| 21:01:13 | captain_proton | woohoo |
| 21:01:13 | patlabor221 | it's trying |
| 21:01:14 | Doug_busy_not_go | I dont see it... |
| 21:01:18 | captain_proton | libvorbis is SO EASY |
| 21:01:26 | Doug_busy_not_go | hmm |
| 21:01:31 | Doug_busy_not_go | no such nick/channel |
| 21:01:31 | patlabor221 | damn I'm nated |
| 21:01:36 | Doug_busy_not_go | ah |
| 21:01:42 | paulj | captain_proton: bzflag is going to play ogg's? why? |
| 21:02:23 | Doug_busy_not_go | found the link |
| 21:02:25 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/hudswitch.diff |
| 21:02:31 | patlabor221 | is that what you need? |
| 21:02:34 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea |
| 21:02:46 | Doug_busy_not_go | thx |
| 21:02:48 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 21:03:00 | captain_proton | paulj: because some of us cannot play more than 1 stream at once on our dsp device |
| 21:03:00 | patlabor221 | got 500 megs just sitin there doin nothin |
| 21:03:04 | captain_proton | paulj: due to bad drivers |
| 21:03:14 | captain_proton | it also enables an optional server soundtrack =) |
| 21:03:19 | Doug_busy_not_go | ah cool |
| 21:03:29 | paulj | that arts or esound? |
| 21:03:36 | paulj | sorry: what about arts or esound? |
| 21:03:38 | captain_proton | arts and esound have troubles with my card |
| 21:03:46 | paulj | what kind of card? |
| 21:03:47 | captain_proton | DMA confuses them |
| 21:03:54 | captain_proton | turtle beach santa cruz |
| 21:04:05 | captain_proton | based on the god-awful cs46xx driver |
| 21:04:05 | patlabor221 | CP: what's the latency on an oog? are they viable for sound effects? |
| 21:04:28 | captain_proton | patlabor221: i'm not sure - i need to do more research into libvorbis, but it shouldn't be too big |
| 21:04:31 | blair | yo prot |
| 21:04:33 | blair | z00 wants a game |
| 21:04:50 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:04:52 | captain_proton | patlabor221: sound effects are loaded before the audio thread starts, so its concievable that one could just decode it into memory |
| 21:04:56 | blair | heh, guess who i saw on #linux the other day |
| 21:05:04 | captain_proton | blair: whom? |
| 21:05:07 | Doug_busy_not_go | I want the COMPLEAT command line for patch |
| 21:05:08 | blair | rcam! |
| 21:05:11 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea |
| 21:05:15 | Doug_busy_not_go | hes online all the time |
| 21:05:21 | Doug_busy_not_go | :) |
| 21:05:22 | captain_proton | Doug_busy_not_go: patch -p1 < ../blah.diff |
| 21:05:24 | blair | he's got a new game, but it is "patent pending" |
| 21:05:27 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:05:33 | Doug_busy_not_go | thx |
| 21:05:36 | captain_proton | he have a new web site? |
| 21:05:55 | blair | proton: his provider went chapter11 |
| 21:06:04 | blair | his website went down-toilet |
| 21:06:08 | paulj | hmm.. why not jsut fix the driver? :) |
| 21:06:26 | Doug_busy_not_go | lol |
| 21:06:27 | captain_proton | paulj: because i like the idea of specifying a soundtrack for my server |
| 21:06:30 | blair | i am ryan m. pamplin! |
| 21:06:33 | captain_proton | SHOSTAKOVICH NIGHT! |
| 21:06:35 | blair | pheeeeeeeeeer me |
| 21:06:37 | paulj | captain_proton: that's an idea... |
| 21:06:49 | paulj | captain_proton: but why not use esd or arts for that? |
| 21:06:53 | blair | bwahahaha, soundtrack would be wicked |
| 21:07:03 | captain_proton | paulj: as i said, esd and arts have problems |
| 21:07:14 | blair | who runs that stuff anyway? |
| 21:07:19 | paulj | captain_proton: if you're redoing the sound stuff that'd be a good feature to have. |
| 21:07:29 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 21:07:33 | captain_proton | paulj: if i play more than one thing, it gets really crackly because of my card's DMA, and if i increase the buffering to the point where it doesn |
| 21:07:39 | Doug_busy_not_go | what folder does .diff go? |
| 21:07:42 | captain_proton | 't click, sound effects are delayed about 1 sec |
| 21:07:55 | captain_proton | Doug_busy_not_go: any, so long as you specify the right path |
| 21:08:03 | Doug_busy_not_go | um |
| 21:08:04 | paulj | captain_proton: then i could play mp3's, wav's, oggs, etc.. with xmms at background volume etc.. while playing |
| 21:08:04 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:08:08 | Doug_busy_not_go | and the path is... |
| 21:08:23 | captain_proton | Doug_busy_not_go: wherever you saved the .diff ... |
| 21:08:23 | paulj | captain_proton: /you/ might have problems.. :) but for rest of us, esd/arts is the way to go. |
| 21:08:33 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:08:37 | captain_proton | paulj: yes - and as such, i am fixing my problems ;) |
| 21:08:38 | blair | proton: what are you guys gonna use as a UI to the music player? |
| 21:08:39 | Doug_busy_not_go | hmm!!! |
| 21:08:41 | paulj | (imh and uninformed o) |
| 21:08:46 | paulj | captain_proton: of course :) |
| 21:08:48 | captain_proton | blair: right now? hardcoded |
| 21:08:57 | paulj | hang on... |
| 21:09:05 | blair | any ui on screen? or just keypad or something? |
| 21:09:13 | captain_proton | actually -right now- it doesn't do vorbis at all |
| 21:09:28 | captain_proton | i'm still rewriting all the old sound stuff to support looping & other things |
| 21:09:30 | dinah | no ogg!!!??? NOOOOOoooooo |
| 21:09:41 | captain_proton | but with this new architecture, adding ogg will be trivial |
| 21:10:04 | Doug_busy_not_go | opk |
| 21:10:05 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:10:08 | Doug_busy_not_go | patch -p1 < /home/admisistrator/hudswitch.diff is a no go |
| 21:10:14 | Doug_busy_not_go | but I see the file there |
| 21:10:21 | Doug_busy_not_go | er |
| 21:10:23 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea |
| 21:10:25 | captain_proton | thats because cygwin uses a virtual path |
| 21:10:26 | Doug_busy_not_go | I see the error |
| 21:10:40 | captain_proton | put it in c:\path-to-cygwin\home\user\ |
| 21:10:56 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:11:04 | Doug_busy_not_go | and what file am I patching? |
| 21:11:19 | captain_proton | blair: if you want to start working on a UI for music... |
| 21:11:21 | Doug_busy_not_go | /bzflag/inculde? |
| 21:11:33 | captain_proton | Doug_busy_not_go: the patch is for lots of files at once (unified) |
| 21:11:42 | Doug_busy_not_go | oh |
| 21:11:44 | captain_proton | you want your pwd to be the bzflag root |
| 21:11:44 | Doug_busy_not_go | sooo |
| 21:11:48 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:11:50 | Doug_busy_not_go | hmm |
| 21:11:57 | Doug_busy_not_go | too bloody complicated |
| 21:12:25 | captain_proton | its actually really simple, but you have to have some semblence of intelligence |
| 21:12:27 | blair | proton: pointy-clicky translucent type stuff? |
| 21:12:34 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea yea |
| 21:12:37 | Doug_busy_not_go | what ever |
| 21:12:39 | captain_proton | blair: hmm |
| 21:12:52 | blair | intelligence? no, don't resemble anything with that quality. |
| 21:12:54 | patlabor221 | it's a game not a media player |
| 21:13:02 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:13:04 | Doug_busy_not_go | now what? |
| 21:13:10 | blair | it could be a media player |
| 21:13:11 | Doug_busy_not_go | File to patch: |
| 21:13:21 | Doug_busy_not_go | its asking: File to patch: |
| 21:13:22 | patlabor221 | why not make a media player then? |
| 21:13:25 | dinah | ohhhhh translucent |
| 21:13:26 | paulj | press ctrl+c - somethings wrong |
| 21:13:26 | Doug_busy_not_go | what do I type in |
| 21:13:30 | patlabor221 | BZPlaya |
| 21:13:31 | paulj | ctrl+c |
| 21:13:33 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:13:48 | Doug_busy_not_go | now what? |
| 21:13:48 | paulj | paste what it said please |
| 21:13:57 | blair | hell, lets make bzflag into an operating system |
| 21:14:04 | paulj | perhaps msg it to avoid annoying others |
| 21:14:08 | Doug_busy_not_go | lol |
| 21:14:09 | dinah | right right right! |
| 21:14:14 | patlabor221 | BZXP-Pro |
| 21:14:17 | Doug_busy_not_go | yuk |
| 21:14:22 | paulj | patlabor221: :) |
| 21:14:25 | dinah | no bznix! |
| 21:14:33 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea |
| 21:14:36 | Doug_busy_not_go | bznix |
| 21:14:45 | captain_proton | patlabor221: the more i think about it, the more i like the idea of converting sound effects to ogg |
| 21:14:57 | patlabor221 | it makes them small |
| 21:15:00 | captain_proton | yep |
| 21:15:05 | Doug_busy_not_go | slap a kernal with networking and opengl |
| 21:15:07 | captain_proton | co's would be fast |
| 21:15:10 | dinah | thinks mmmmmm delicious oggy woggs |
| 21:15:27 | patlabor221 | I tried using MP3 for effects before oog and they were ok for things that didn't need low latency |
| 21:15:40 | patlabor221 | unless you pre decompress them |
| 21:15:49 | blair | well... |
| 21:15:55 | patlabor221 | then the only thing you save for those is space on disk |
| 21:15:57 | captain_proton | right now effects are preloaded into memory |
| 21:16:06 | patlabor221 | decompressed? |
| 21:16:07 | blair | anyway, mail me for a z00 vs. meq game |
| 21:16:20 | captain_proton | blair: whats your email addy? |
| 21:16:54 | patlabor221 | if they are loade decompressed then you will have no latency issues, just use lots of ram |
| 21:17:00 | patlabor221 | but ram's cheap |
| 21:17:16 | captain_proton | and it already does it, so its not like i would be adding bloat |
| 21:17:33 | patlabor221 | ohh no, no bloat |
| 21:17:46 | patlabor221 | I just wish there was a fast decompresser :) |
| 21:18:03 | patlabor221 | or hardware that did it, that would be sweet |
| 21:18:13 | captain_proton | sb live mp3 ;) |
| 21:18:40 | patlabor221 | I think I have one of those |
| 21:18:46 | patlabor221 | somewhere |
| 21:18:56 | captain_proton | 'course it only helps if you use their media player |
| 21:19:25 | patlabor221 | I'd bet you could use it wiht direct play under windows |
| 21:20:23 | dinah | wonders who cares about windos |
| 21:20:37 | patlabor221 | unfortonatly most of the rest of the world |
| 21:21:06 | Doug_busy_not_go | heh |
| 21:21:10 | dinah | oh right those chaps who dont know what a comand line is? |
| 21:21:25 | patlabor221 | yeah mac people |
| 21:21:31 | dinah | rm -r windows |
| 21:21:31 | patlabor221 | and my dad |
| 21:22:12 | dinah | mv bill.gates hell |
| 21:22:25 | patlabor221 | I drove by his house once |
| 21:22:44 | dinah | could you smell the brimstone? |
| 21:22:50 | Doug_busy_not_go | lol |
| 21:22:51 | patlabor221 | not form the street |
| 21:22:54 | Doug_busy_not_go | mv gates.bill hell |
| 21:22:58 | Doug_busy_not_go | LOL |
| 21:23:01 | patlabor221 | but you can see the smoke from the late |
| 21:23:03 | patlabor221 | lake |
| 21:23:13 | captain_proton | woohoo |
| 21:23:16 | patlabor221 | if you get close enought on a jet ski |
| 21:23:24 | captain_proton | 1 more function and this should be relatively complete |
| 21:23:29 | patlabor221 | but then they chase you away |
| 21:23:35 | dinah | what is "this"? |
| 21:24:20 | captain_proton | the SoundManager =) |
| 21:24:39 | dinah | ummm like artsd? |
| 21:24:43 | captain_proton | no |
| 21:24:56 | Doug_busy_not_go | building patched bzflag!!! |
| 21:25:02 | captain_proton | rewriting the sound to provide support for named and looping jobs |
| 21:25:40 | dinah | ummm right, yeah, i understand that... :/ |
| 21:26:10 | captain_proton | ok - right now, when it plays a sound, it just says 'play this global' or 'play this local' (for sounds others make and you make, respectively) |
| 21:26:11 | patlabor221 | he's making the sounds more expandable |
| 21:26:16 | captain_proton | you can't make it loop |
| 21:26:38 | dinah | goes to get a coffee |
| 21:26:46 | captain_proton | with this new one, i could say 'play this sound, loop, and call it "rain"' - then when the rain stops, i say 'remove the "rain" job' |
| 21:27:12 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:27:14 | captain_proton | coffee sounds good |
| 21:27:23 | patlabor221 | food sounds good |
| 21:27:34 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:27:35 | patlabor221 | is anything open in the US today |
| 21:27:45 | Doug_busy_not_go | tell dinah I have the exe |
| 21:27:57 | patlabor221 | if you want I can host it if needed |
| 21:27:58 | paulj | dinah: i think doug has a windows exe for you |
| 21:28:10 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 21:28:12 | iLlf8d | brb |
| 21:28:13 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:28:18 | paulj | wonders why the self-professed win hater dinah would want a windows binary... |
| 21:28:27 | Doug_busy_not_go | ssending to patlabor221 |
| 21:28:51 | Doug_busy_not_go | make sure dinah gets this file |
| 21:29:02 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 21:29:07 | Doug_busy_not_go | I will host it myslef |
| 21:29:18 | patlabor221 | I hate nats some times |
| 21:29:30 | Doug_busy_not_go | I hate nats ALL the time |
| 21:29:30 | patlabor221 | ohh well |
| 21:29:50 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:29:52 | Doug_busy_not_go | uplaoding |
| 21:29:54 | Doug_busy_not_go | loading |
| 21:30:01 | patlabor221 | when it's the only way to get 25 machines on a DSL, you cna't hate me |
| 21:30:11 | Doug_busy_not_go | lol |
| 21:30:15 | Doug_busy_not_go | true true |
| 21:30:24 | Doug_busy_not_go | 20 secs left |
| 21:30:31 | dinah | sits back down. "mmmmmmm strong coffee" |
| 21:30:37 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:30:43 | Doug_busy_not_go | tell dinah |
| 21:31:00 | Doug_busy_not_go | http://heckamangroup.com/files/ |
| 21:31:11 | Doug_busy_not_go | arathorn!!! |
| 21:31:18 | Doug_busy_not_go | get the EXE from there!!! |
| 21:31:19 | Doug_busy_not_go | http://heckamangroup.com/files/ |
| 21:31:24 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok? |
| 21:31:30 | Doug_busy_not_go | its the patched version |
| 21:31:35 | arathorn | ok:)) |
| 21:31:39 | Doug_busy_not_go | :0 |
| 21:31:40 | patlabor221 | dinah:http://heckamangroup.com/files/ says doug |
| 21:31:42 | Doug_busy_not_go | L) |
| 21:31:43 | Doug_busy_not_go | :) |
| 21:31:58 | dinah | patlabor221: tell doug to sod off |
| 21:32:03 | paulj | Doug_busy_not_go: relax - and why would dinah want the win version of bz from you? she uses linux? |
| 21:32:04 | arathorn | only 1.3 mb? |
| 21:32:05 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 21:32:11 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea |
| 21:32:15 | Doug_busy_not_go | its just the exe |
| 21:32:20 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 21:32:25 | arathorn | ok:) |
| 21:32:27 | captain_proton | you didn't build the installer? |
| 21:32:28 | Doug_busy_not_go | tell dinah to jump off a bridge |
| 21:32:32 | patlabor221 | Dude I don't think she likes you, she keeps talking about grass in dirt |
| 21:32:32 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 21:32:40 | Doug_busy_not_go | patlabor221 hehe |
| 21:32:50 | Doug_busy_not_go | captain_proton no, just the exe |
| 21:32:54 | patlabor221 | Dinah: he;s just saying realy stupid things now |
| 21:33:11 | dinah | pat; now you see why i put him on ignore |
| 21:33:16 | Doug_busy_not_go | bah |
| 21:33:30 | patlabor221 | too many bah's |
| 21:33:47 | paulj | dinah: strange - you use british expressions, but you have a rr.com (ie US) address... |
| 21:33:59 | Doug_busy_not_go | w00t, I got Chestals patch!!! |
| 21:34:14 | paulj | Doug_busy_not_go: you're showing your age now.. |
| 21:34:16 | patlabor221 | I think she's re-routed |
| 21:34:20 | paulj | ah. |
| 21:34:28 | dinah | stranger still i show up as a verginian ip. god i love percy's network abilities ;) |
| 21:34:36 | captain_proton | chooses to ignore doug too |
| 21:34:39 | paulj | who's percy? |
| 21:34:50 | patlabor221 | you show up as a cable modem |
| 21:34:50 | dinah | the flat mate dont you know |
| 21:35:09 | Doug_busy_not_go | hmm |
| 21:35:11 | paulj | but you're a brit obviously... |
| 21:35:12 | patlabor221 | fun with routing tables |
| 21:35:28 | paulj | never heard a yank say "sod off" anyway :) |
| 21:35:43 | dinah | he says it so i wont lag on colonial servers, ;) |
| 21:35:58 | paulj | hmm.. |
| 21:36:13 | Doug_busy_not_go | bloody hell, sod off you bugger eyed monster! |
| 21:36:35 | patlabor221 | doug do you know what bugger means? |
| 21:36:35 | Doug_busy_not_go | I am brit... I am talk like one at least |
| 21:36:40 | Doug_busy_not_go | no |
| 21:36:43 | Doug_busy_not_go | I dont want to |
| 21:36:43 | paulj | Doug_busy_not_go: "bugger eyed monster" - nah... definitely not. |
| 21:36:45 | Doug_busy_not_go | ether |
| 21:36:45 | patlabor221 | gay butt sex |
| 21:36:50 | Doug_busy_not_go | oh |
| 21:36:53 | Doug_busy_not_go | ouch |
| 21:36:55 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:37:05 | Doug_busy_not_go | bloody hell, sod off you bug eyed monster! |
| 21:37:11 | dinah | lol! "bugger eyed monster" someones been wanking to much |
| 21:37:13 | Widget | Haha. |
| 21:37:19 | paulj | :) |
| 21:37:20 | captain_proton | is reminded of realhamster |
| 21:37:21 | Doug_busy_not_go | teehee |
| 21:37:25 | Widget | Doug_busy_not_go: Where in the UK are you from? |
| 21:37:29 | captain_proton | "best buggering hamsters money can buy" |
| 21:37:31 | Doug_busy_not_go | kentucky |
| 21:37:40 | Doug_busy_not_go | :D |
| 21:37:49 | paulj | my sister is in kentucky at the moment. |
| 21:37:51 | dinah | id say hes somewhere in the vacinity of fleet street |
| 21:37:54 | patlabor221 | they have the internet in kentuky |
| 21:38:00 | Doug_busy_not_go | yup |
| 21:38:02 | Doug_busy_not_go | dsl |
| 21:38:04 | Doug_busy_not_go | cable |
| 21:38:05 | patlabor221 | wow |
| 21:38:08 | Doug_busy_not_go | even modem |
| 21:38:14 | paulj | even modem? wow.. |
| 21:38:15 | Doug_busy_not_go | ^^^^cool |
| 21:38:20 | Doug_busy_not_go | hehe |
| 21:38:24 | Doug_busy_not_go | and..... |
| 21:38:31 | Doug_busy_not_go | ISDN!!!!! |
| 21:38:34 | Doug_busy_not_go | yea!!! |
| 21:38:39 | Widget | Liberté, Egalité, fraternité!!!! |
| 21:38:41 | Doug_busy_not_go | (hick) |
| 21:38:44 | patlabor221 | I just shiped a computer to Kentuky, that way you can have 2 of them for the state |
| 21:38:52 | Doug_busy_not_go | oh good |
| 21:38:53 | dinah | wonders if any of these yankes know who sweeney todd is |
| 21:38:57 | Doug_busy_not_go | um |
| 21:39:04 | Doug_busy_not_go | I have a g4 beside me |
| 21:39:12 | Doug_busy_not_go | so its the 3rd computer |
| 21:39:12 | patlabor221 | that sounds very familair |
| 21:39:14 | Doug_busy_not_go | :) |
| 21:39:19 | Doug_busy_not_go | ok |
| 21:39:27 | arathorn | Liberté, Egalité, fraternité!!!!,ah who have history exame:)) ( franch revolution 1789):)) |
| 21:40:04 | dinah | sweeney todd = the demon barber, of fleet street |
| 21:41:38 | paulj | arathorn.... google? |
| 21:42:08 | Widget | Qu'un sang impur..... abreuve nos sillons!!!!! |
| 21:42:10 | dinah | paulj: he left |
| 21:42:10 | paulj | and the sweeney is rhyming slang for the peelers right? |
| 21:42:29 | dinah | it is but is also his name |
| 21:42:36 | patlabor221 | what is a peeler? |
| 21:42:42 | paulj | peeler is a copper |
| 21:42:51 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 21:42:53 | paulj | copper is a policeman |
| 21:42:55 | paulj | :) |
| 21:42:56 | dinah | bloody crish, pig, bulls, millicents you know |
| 21:43:06 | Widget | dinah: Are you pro-euro? |
| 21:43:09 | patlabor221 | ahhh "the Fuzz" |
| 21:43:21 | paulj | called 'peelers' cause the police in the UK were started by John Peel. |
| 21:43:29 | dinah | Widget: god no. i love my pounds |
| 21:43:46 | paulj | pah... you'll have to join in someday. |
| 21:44:01 | dinah | actualy john peel only started the idea of peace officers |
| 21:44:07 | Widget | dinah: I have been told that as a part of ERM, the pound must track the Euro by 3% or so. |
| 21:44:27 | paulj | is annoyed at having to change money when he crosses the water. |
| 21:44:39 | dinah | and its robert no john |
| 21:44:55 | paulj | dinah: ah yes... |
| 21:45:06 | paulj | dinah: but that's your history not mine :) |
| 21:45:15 | paulj | i was close.. |
| 21:45:24 | dinah | pop quiz: when was the first peeler to be murderd on duty, and what was his name |
| 21:45:33 | paulj | god knows.. |
| 21:46:22 | paulj | who was the british explorer, knighted by queen victoria, later hanged for treason for running guns to ireland? |
| 21:46:26 | dinah | 1830, the murder was john smith aka william sapwell |
| 21:46:28 | Widget | Why on earth does the Union jack still include the Irish flag? |
| 21:46:36 | paulj | it doesnt |
| 21:46:41 | Widget | The red cross. |
| 21:46:54 | Widget | It was added when Ireland |
| 21:46:58 | Widget | "joined" the UK. |
| 21:47:01 | paulj | vetical/horizontal on white background? that's St George cross -> england |
| 21:47:03 | dinah | the peelers name was john long |
| 21:47:09 | Widget | Not the bertical horizontal cross. |
| 21:47:13 | Widget | The diagonal red cross. |
| 21:47:17 | paulj | traitor: Sir Roger Casement |
| 21:47:23 | dinah | lol |
| 21:47:24 | patlabor221 | jot of john's there |
| 21:47:38 | Widget | Pop Quiz: Who discovered New Zealand? |
| 21:47:44 | paulj | hmm... it's become #BZHistory |
| 21:47:50 | paulj | a dutch man wasnt it? |
| 21:47:56 | Widget | Yaya |
| 21:48:05 | paulj | or was it cook? |
| 21:48:07 | Widget | Answer: Abel Janszoon Tasman. |
| 21:48:08 | Widget | Nope. |
| 21:48:14 | paulj | was he dutch? |
| 21:48:15 | Widget | Cook came years later. |
| 21:48:15 | dinah | nope that channel is empty paulj |
| 21:48:43 | paulj | :) |
| 21:48:49 | paulj | Widget: was he dutch? |
| 21:49:10 | Widget | paulj: Of course. |
| 21:49:16 | Widget | paulj: With a name like that, how could he not be? |
| 21:49:30 | paulj | ah... in that case: what was the name of his boat? |
| 21:49:33 | paulj | ship even |
| 21:49:49 | paulj | (no googling!) |
| 21:49:58 | dinah | Widget: tehehehe |
| 21:50:25 | Widget | paulj: Uh.... I suppose he had many. |
| 21:50:43 | paulj | witte zwaan iirc |
| 21:50:44 | Widget | dinah: Imperial. =P |
| 21:51:01 | paulj | ok lets google :) |
| 21:51:35 | paulj | no i think i'm wrong. |
| 21:51:39 | dinah | Widget: travalis a inferis ;) |
| 21:51:42 | paulj | has a terrible memory |
| 21:52:33 | Widget | dinah: That is bad grammar. |
| 21:52:43 | Widget | dinah: Trabalis means 'woodenish'. |
| 21:52:49 | Widget | dinah: Or rather, 'wooden beamish'. |
| 21:52:51 | dinah | has one more queston, think of it as a internet scavenger hunt: |
| 21:53:02 | dinah | who was albert fish :> |
| 21:53:24 | Widget | A colonial. |
| 21:53:27 | patlabor221 | gy who ate people |
| 21:54:14 | dinah | good now why did they hit a bit of snag in electrocuting him? |
| 21:54:32 | Widget | Le Jour de la Bastille, ou le 14 juillet, en France, est le symbole de la fin de la monarchie et le debut de la démocratie. La fête nationale est une fête où tout les citoyens Français se rassemblent pour célébré de faire partie d'une nation républicaine. Une symbole pour toutes les révolutions du monde. |
| 21:55:23 | dinah | the sybol of the end of monarcy, the start of democracy! bah damn democracy |
| 21:55:43 | patlabor221 | he had soo many needles in him he shorted the chair |
| 21:55:45 | Widget | The French monarchy never was very good. |
| 21:56:00 | Widget | Unlike the British monarchy. Now, that's properly done. |
| 21:56:01 | dinah | patlabor221: good you get a gold star |
| 21:56:16 | dinah | Widget: right right right |
| 21:56:27 | Widget | The Queen costs every British citizen about 58 p. |
| 21:56:41 | Widget | And in tourist income, she brings in about £3.50 per citizen. |
| 21:56:41 | dinah | ill gladly pay |
| 21:56:48 | Widget | Therefore, she is a good thing. |
| 21:57:19 | Widget | Now, our Governor-General on the other hand... nothing but expense and trouble. And in the 70s the Americans forced the Aussie Gov to dissolve the government. |
| 21:58:05 | captain_proton | good ole' americans |
| 21:58:21 | paulj | Widget: so you're a new seelander? |
| 21:58:22 | patlabor221 | for some reason we love bustin up other people partys |
| 21:58:36 | Widget | paulj: Nieuw Zeelander. |
| 21:58:58 | Widget | patlabor221: Foolish CIA. I don't doubt that they've tried to kill everyone on the planet at least once. |
| 21:59:00 | dinah | wonders if they know who Reg Christie is... he should be the symbol of the US =P |
| 21:59:10 | paulj | Widget: sorry, thought i'd translate from dutch for you. |
| 21:59:13 | Widget | patlabor221: They have probably tried to assassinate me at least three times. |
| 21:59:29 | Widget | paulj: Then I'm a New Zealander. |
| 21:59:51 | Widget | Kiwis! Kiwis! Kiwis! Kiwis! Kiwis! |
| 21:59:56 | paulj | Widget: oops yes. |
| 22:00:02 | paulj | new sealander. |
| 22:00:07 | paulj | cant spell either |
| 22:00:37 | paulj | and that's why tasmania is called so, cause of Tasman. |
| 22:00:39 | Widget | I want to go to Zeeland. |
| 22:00:41 | Widget | In the netherlands. |
| 22:00:48 | paulj | Zeeland? |
| 22:00:52 | paulj | not much there. |
| 22:01:23 | paulj | leanr something new every day. (think i learned it a long long time ago - but had forgotten everything but that he was dutch) |
| 22:01:40 | Widget | paulj: No, Tasman named NZ Staten Island. |
| 22:01:58 | Widget | paulj: Joannes Blaeu named it Nieuw Zeeland. |
| 22:02:00 | paulj | aye, but part of NZ is called Tasmania |
| 22:02:13 | patlabor221 | hence it's devils |
| 22:02:15 | Widget | No, part of Austrlia. |
| 22:02:20 | Widget | Australia. |
| 22:02:23 | paulj | ah - doh, yes. of course. |
| 22:02:26 | Widget | Tasmania is a state in Oz. |
| 22:02:30 | Widget | Capital Hobart. |
| 22:02:34 | Widget | Most boring place in the world. |
| 22:02:40 | paulj | tasmanian devils, they went extinct - hunted to death. |
| 22:02:55 | paulj | they've a few preserved in formaldehyde iirc. |
| 22:03:05 | patlabor221 | ewwwww |
| 22:03:08 | Widget | The Kiwi will never go extinct! |
| 22:03:29 | paulj | flightless bird... |
| 22:03:43 | patlabor221 | or the fruit |
| 22:03:44 | Widget | So? A very good flightless bird it is too. |
| 22:03:46 | paulj | dont you have trouble not stepping onthem and squashing them |
| 22:03:48 | paulj | ? |
| 22:03:51 | Widget | The fruit isn't originally Kiwi. It's Chinese. |
| 22:03:58 | Widget | The Chinese Gooseberry. |
| 22:04:02 | Widget | But it grows best in NZ. |
| 22:04:02 | patlabor221 | well it's good wiht strawberys :) |
| 22:04:13 | paulj | we have a kiwi bush in our garden.. |
| 22:04:29 | paulj | amazingly enough it manages to produce a few small kiwi's every year despite the irish weather. |
| 22:04:39 | dinah | avacadoes are much nicer than kiwis |
| 22:04:46 | paulj | nah... |
| 22:04:51 | Widget | Avocadoes are not fruits. |
| 22:04:59 | patlabor221 | difrent taste |
| 22:05:03 | paulj | you cant get good avocadoes in UK / Irl. |
| 22:05:11 | Widget | dinah: Did you know that the Romans used to have vinyards near LONDONIVM? |
| 22:05:20 | patlabor221 | good on a turkey bacon sandwich |
| 22:05:20 | dinah | but there yummy, mmmm mail order fruit |
| 22:05:24 | paulj | Widget: what are they then? |
| 22:05:36 | Widget | paulj: Minerals. |
| 22:05:38 | paulj | ? |
| 22:05:41 | patlabor221 | more avacados here then we know waht do with |
| 22:05:55 | dinah | askes percy to make her a salmon and avacado sandwich |
| 22:06:14 | patlabor221 | that could be good |
| 22:06:18 | dinah | MMMMMmmmmmmmm |
| 22:06:30 | captain_proton | is getting hungry |
| 22:06:38 | patlabor221 | is too |
| 22:06:44 | Widget | is three. |
| 22:06:47 | Widget | Nearly lunchtime. |
| 22:06:47 | paulj | avocadoes - only place to eat them is in the med' - by the time they get up to our notherly countries they tend to be either under-ripe (adn they ripen well up here) or over-ripe and fibrous. (yuk) |
| 22:06:54 | patlabor221 | would have to leve "the road" |
| 22:07:06 | paulj | (they /dont/ ripen well here) |
| 22:07:06 | dinah | blast he says were all out of salmon he has to go out for more... |
| 22:07:17 | Widget | does not eat avocadoes. |
| 22:07:20 | patlabor221 | tell him less talk more walk |
| 22:07:26 | paulj | dinah: get him to make me one too |
| 22:07:44 | dinah | paulj: ill mail it to you right? |
| 22:07:53 | captain_proton | patlabor221: know anything about the sound thread on windows? |
| 22:08:01 | Widget | Put it in a bottle and sail it across the irish sea. |
| 22:08:03 | Widget | captain_proton? |
| 22:08:07 | Widget | Widget? |
| 22:08:10 | patlabor221 | as it's implemented now or in theroy? |
| 22:08:12 | | i guess Widget is A very intellifent and discerning person that eats robots |
| 22:08:12 | Widget | ibot: Widget? |
| 22:08:12 | paulj | nah, i'll catch the next bus, sorry, ryanair over and collect it. :) |
| 22:08:15 | captain_proton | as its implemented |
| 22:08:16 | | Mr. Aphenphosmphobia |
| 22:08:16 | Widget | ibot: captain_proton? |
| 22:08:23 | | patlabor221 is barely awake |
| 22:08:23 | Widget | ibot: patlabor221 |
| 22:08:24 | patlabor221 | no but I can go look at it |
| 22:08:24 | | patlabor221 is barely awake |
| 22:08:24 | Widget | ibot: patlabor221? |
| 22:08:28 | | dinah is recovering from having 21% of her left brain removed |
| 22:08:28 | Widget | ibot: dinah? |
| 22:08:33 | | it has been said that paulj is evil |
| 22:08:33 | Widget | ibot: paulj? |
| 22:08:41 | paulj | who said that! :) |
| 22:08:45 | captain_proton | i need to know if it will have access to all the globals that were defined before the thread was created |
| 22:08:49 | paulj | (oh, i did. :) ) |
| 22:09:01 | paulj | anyway... /must/ go do some work.. |
| 22:09:03 | paulj | damn irc. |
| 22:09:04 | Widget | patlabor221: Are you sleepy? |
| 22:09:10 | dinah | widegt why would you change that |
| 22:09:13 | Widget | dinah: I hope your brain is feeling better. |
| 22:09:18 | patlabor221 | no that was a looong time ago |
| 22:09:25 | Widget | patlabor221: Oh. |
| 22:09:30 | patlabor221 | now I am the purvor of all usless knowledge |
| 22:09:38 | | patlabor221 is barely awake |
| 22:09:38 | Widget | ibot: patlabor221 |
| 22:09:40 | patlabor221 | but I know not how to change it |
| 22:09:41 | paulj | reet... night. |
| 22:09:45 | | Widget: I forgot patlabor221 |
| 22:09:45 | Widget | ibot: forget patlabor221 |
| 22:09:58 | | OK, Widget. |
| 22:09:58 | Widget | ibot: patlabor is the purveyor of all useless knowledge. |
| 22:09:58 | | you are recovering from having 21% of her left lung removed |
| 22:09:58 | dinah | ibot: me |
| 22:10:04 | | widget: wish i knew |
| 22:10:04 | Widget | ibot: patlabor221? |
| 22:10:12 | | OK, Widget. |
| 22:10:12 | Widget | ibot: patlabor221 is the purveyor of all useless knowledge. |
| 22:10:15 | | patlabor221 is, like, the purveyor of all useless knowledge |
| 22:10:15 | Widget | ibot: patlabor221 |
| 22:10:16 | patlabor221 | see I'm invisilble |
| 22:10:29 | dinah | adds widget to her ignore list |
| 22:10:37 | Widget | dinah: Oh.... it was brain? |
| 22:10:41 | Widget | dinah: Most interesting. |
| 22:10:47 | Widget | dinah: In any case, I did not change it. |
| 22:12:24 | patlabor221 | CP where the heck is the code for the thread proc? |
| 22:12:58 | captain_proton | mplatform/something |
| 22:13:11 | Widget | Wow.... KDE has a Maori translation. |
| 22:13:14 | Widget | I've got to use this. |
| 22:13:19 | patlabor221 | crud I only have 1.7 here |
| 22:13:22 | Widget | Now if only OS X had one too.... |
| 22:14:28 | patlabor221 | now why is it set to DSSCL_EXCLUSIVE, I thought I changed that a long time ago |
| 22:14:29 | Widget | http://www.tetaurawhiri.govt.nz/maori/index.shtml |
| 22:14:44 | Widget | Te taura whiri i te reo Maori. |
| 22:14:50 | patlabor221 | has there been any reported problems wiht sound under NT 4.0? |
| 22:15:16 | patlabor221 | ohh no by bad, It' suposed to be that way |
| 22:15:38 | patlabor221 | I hate it when you look at your own code and say "damn what is this guy doing" |
| 22:16:22 | captain_proton | heh |
| 22:16:45 | patlabor221 | too bad have to stick with DX 3 for compatability with NT |
| 22:17:00 | Widget | Hm. |
| 22:17:10 | patlabor221 | could do stuff with hardware mixers in we could go higher |
| 22:17:14 | Widget | I added myself to my ignore list, but I can still see what I say. |
| 22:17:17 | captain_proton | i'm more interesting in where it splits off the thread |
| 22:17:21 | Widget | I wonder if anyone else is saying anything. |
| 22:17:31 | captain_proton | i know in unix fork() will preserve the entire memory space |
| 22:17:31 | patlabor221 | well I have 1.7here |
| 22:17:38 | captain_proton | shouldn't have changed |
| 22:17:45 | patlabor221 | I am perty sure a thread will too |
| 22:17:52 | patlabor221 | a thread has the mem |
| 22:17:58 | patlabor221 | a seperate process does not |
| 22:19:05 | patlabor221 | is there a linux api that will let you access a hardware mixer if the card supports it? |
| 22:19:43 | captain_proton | yep |
| 22:19:55 | captain_proton | well - depends |
| 22:20:00 | captain_proton | what do you mean by 'hardware mixer' ? |
| 22:21:29 | captain_proton | YAAY! the dead racoon has been illegally disposed of in someone else's dumpster |
| 22:21:48 | dinah | my my my |
| 22:22:26 | captain_proton | now i can safely open my windows |
| 22:22:31 | patlabor221 | a number of cards ether have ram, or will pull form system ram, and mixmultiple sounds |
| 22:22:47 | patlabor221 | so you don't have to mix them yourself in software |
| 22:23:06 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:23:07 | patlabor221 | and a lot of new cards will do the 3d calcs for you too |
| 22:23:15 | captain_proton | the OSS api won't do it |
| 22:23:29 | captain_proton | ALSA will but not all cards are supported (like mine, grr) |
| 22:23:49 | captain_proton | some cards have drivers that will allow the device to be opened many times and will mix those |
| 22:23:50 | patlabor221 | in DX I can make a number of "secondary" buffers that may exist on the card and it'll mix them in hw if it can, if not it does it in sw |
| 22:24:09 | patlabor221 | BZ is just asking for the primary buffer now and doing it's own mixing |
| 22:24:13 | captain_proton | right |
| 22:24:59 | patlabor221 | for simple 3d the primary buffer stuff is fine |
| 22:25:17 | patlabor221 | it's faster to do it in HW when you get into audio "materials" |
| 22:25:24 | patlabor221 | like all that EAX crap |
| 22:25:59 | captain_proton | did you say anything since 'right' ? |
| 22:26:11 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:26:15 | Widget | <patlabor221> for simple 3d the primary buffer stuff is fine |
| 22:26:15 | Widget | <patlabor221> it's faster to do it in HW when you get into audio "materials" |
| 22:26:15 | Widget | <patlabor221> like all that EAX crap |
| 22:26:18 | patlabor221 | <patlabor221> for simple 3d the primary buffer stuff is fine |
| 22:26:18 | patlabor221 | <patlabor221> it's faster to do it in HW when you get into audio "materials" |
| 22:26:19 | patlabor221 | <patlabor221> like all that EAX crap |
| 22:26:44 | patlabor221 | whoa in sterio even |
| 22:26:58 | captain_proton | true |
| 22:27:26 | patlabor221 | well time to go get food |
| 22:27:31 | patlabor221 | and go home |
| 22:27:57 | patlabor221 | not suposed to work on national "be stupid and blow our digit off day" |
| 22:28:15 | patlabor221 | c ya |
| 22:28:19 | captain_proton | later |
| 22:39:10 | captain_proton | doobeedoo |
| 22:39:20 | Doug_busy | sighs |
| 22:39:49 | Doug_busy | sighs again |
| 22:39:50 | Doug_busy | sighs again |
| 22:41:15 | dinah | why the hell does that wanker keep trying to semd me stuff |
| 22:41:21 | Doug_busy | who? |
| 22:42:12 | dinah | is away: i have to go lay down |
| 22:42:18 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:42:23 | captain_proton | thinks... |
| 22:42:28 | doug_busy | ponders |
| 22:42:41 | captain_proton | BZFlag: appropriate to hack up some particle system fireworks for bz tonight? |
| 22:42:56 | doug_busy | YEA!!!! |
| 22:57:39 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 22:59:44 | dinah | is back (gone 00:17:33) |
| 23:00:07 | dinah | eats her freshly made salmon and avacado sandwich |
| 23:00:42 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 23:01:42 | Widget | dinah: Lucky thing. |
| 23:01:52 | dinah | why would tad try to send my an .exe and .avi file he knows im on linux... |
| 23:03:31 | Widget | He forgot. |
| 23:03:34 | captain_proton | .avi works on linux |
| 23:03:41 | Widget | Yah. Use Xine. |
| 23:03:45 | Widget | Or aviplay. |
| 23:03:51 | dinah | bah xine sucks |
| 23:03:54 | captain_proton | mplayer |
| 23:04:01 | captain_proton | and no, xine does not suck |
| 23:04:08 | iLLf8d | yeah it does |
| 23:04:15 | iLLf8d | it works sucks tho |
| 23:04:16 | dinah | does too ogle works much better |
| 23:04:25 | iLLf8d | ogle? |
| 23:04:26 | captain_proton | ogle doesn't play as many formats |
| 23:04:39 | dinah | i know but compare dvd quality... |
| 23:05:02 | captain_proton | dvd quality is the same |
| 23:05:11 | captain_proton | if xine is compiled with libdvdread |
| 23:05:21 | captain_proton | stupid stl |
| 23:05:22 | iLLf8d | how long does it take to rip/encode a dvd -> x or s or vcd? |
| 23:05:24 | dinah | hardly ogle uses far less resources |
| 23:05:27 | captain_proton | SoundManager.cxx:151: no match for `multimap<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> >,AudioJob,less<basic_string<char,string_char_traits<char>,__default_alloc_template<true,0> > >,allocator<AudioJob> > &[string &]' |
| 23:06:24 | captain_proton | dinah: it depends on if xine is compiled with the internal dvd support or libdvdread |
| 23:06:30 | captain_proton | ogle uses libdvdread by default |
| 23:07:03 | taD_gone | ok |
| 23:07:04 | taD_gone | dinah? |
| 23:07:06 | dinah | hmmm i installed the xine packages as they were that means... |
| 23:07:08 | taD_gone | DINAH???? |
| 23:07:11 | taD_gone | sheehs |
| 23:07:40 | taD_gone | tell dinah I compiled the patch into an exe for almometer |
| 23:07:54 | taD_gone | and I was sending it |
| 23:08:00 | taD_gone | ok?? |
| 23:08:04 | dinah | captain_proton: do i need the avifile-utils as well? |
| 23:08:07 | taD_gone | bah |
| 23:08:09 | captain_proton | dinah: nope |
| 23:08:14 | taD_gone | I am invisible |
| 23:08:21 | Widget | <taD_gone> DINAH???? |
| 23:08:21 | Widget | <taD_gone> sheehs |
| 23:08:21 | Widget | <taD_gone> tell dinah I compiled the patch into an exe for almometer |
| 23:08:21 | Widget | <taD_gone> and I was sending it |
| 23:08:21 | Widget | <taD_gone> ok?? |
| 23:08:30 | Widget | Hm.... well, I might be on dinah's ignore list too. |
| 23:08:31 | captain_proton | dinah: if you want a really slim media player, mplayer is great (no real interface, no dvd) |
| 23:08:36 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 23:08:39 | taD_gone | good point |
| 23:08:40 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 23:08:45 | Widget | But then again, dinah's on my ignore list. :) |
| 23:08:46 | Widget | So we are even. |
| 23:08:49 | taD_gone | I might ignore dinah |
| 23:08:54 | taD_gone | :) |
| 23:09:00 | taD_gone | /ignore dinah? |
| 23:09:04 | captain_proton | why ignore dinah? shes cute |
| 23:09:07 | dinah | spat: i want dvd capability, everything else to though |
| 23:09:14 | taD_gone | hmm? |
| 23:09:18 | taD_gone | she ignores me |
| 23:09:22 | taD_gone | I ignore her |
| 23:09:30 | dinah | oooops that was suppose to be capt: |
| 23:09:53 | taD_gone | balance the universe |
| 23:10:04 | Widget | Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit .... Für das Deutsche Vaterland. |
| 23:10:16 | taD_gone | HEIL HITLER!!! |
| 23:10:20 | taD_gone | sorry |
| 23:10:25 | taD_gone | could not resist |
| 23:10:26 | dinah | captain_proton: looks like i need libdivxencore.so as well |
| 23:11:30 | captain_proton | dinah: hang on i think i have the url somewhere |
| 23:11:33 | Widget | taD_gone: You are lucky it is 1 AM in Germany and most Germans are asleep. |
| 23:11:37 | taD_gone | ah |
| 23:11:37 | taD_gone | ouch |
| 23:11:39 | taD_gone | yea |
| 23:11:42 | taD_gone | good thing |
| 23:11:59 | taD_gone | HEIL USA!!! |
| 23:12:39 | captain_proton | damn i don't |
| 23:12:43 | taD_gone | 4th of july.... |
| 23:12:47 | captain_proton | there's a binary package you need to install for it |
| 23:13:06 | dinah | ill look at rpm find or somthing |
| 23:14:32 | dinah | so what formats will it play, hmmm? |
| 23:16:05 | taD_gone | divx |
| 23:16:22 | Widget | What about divx? |
| 23:16:27 | captain_proton | avi, asf, (partial) qt, mpeg, ... |
| 23:16:55 | dinah | well i got it installed now i need some files to test... |
| 23:18:16 | taD_gone | I cansend you one |
| 23:18:36 | dinah | what on earth is a .mov file |
| 23:18:40 | captain_proton | quicktime |
| 23:19:18 | dinah | i swere tad if your sending me porn ill kill you |
| 23:19:21 | blair | proton. |
| 23:19:26 | taD_gone | I am not |
| 23:19:31 | taD_gone | its not |
| 23:19:35 | taD_gone | tell her its not |
| 23:19:40 | taD_gone | its a div movie |
| 23:19:42 | blair | why in the hell hasn't my shot indicator been picked up in 1.8? |
| 23:19:44 | taD_gone | divx* |
| 23:19:51 | taD_gone | hmm? |
| 23:19:51 | blair | taD_gone: what movie? |
| 23:19:56 | taD_gone | um |
| 23:20:02 | taD_gone | I forget the name |
| 23:20:05 | taD_gone | cool though |
| 23:20:17 | captain_proton | blair: dunno |
| 23:20:39 | blair | proton: wanna know why i don't do any work on flag anymore |
| 23:20:41 | blair | cuz of that |
| 23:20:43 | blair | cuz of that |
| 23:20:47 | dinah | is it nice blair? |
| 23:20:54 | blair | how long ago did i submit that? |
| 23:20:59 | blair | that was last semester sometime |
| 23:21:05 | captain_proton | blair: i'll take a look at it again, but iirc it didn't use the ViewItem stuff correctly ;) |
| 23:21:10 | blair | its a lot fucking better than "reload in 1.8s" |
| 23:21:35 | captain_proton | that it is |
| 23:21:36 | blair | yeah well i'm not gonna spend all my time prettying it up to your specs when i gotta learn all the code myself |
| 23:21:55 | captain_proton | blair: once i finish this stuff, i'll look at it |
| 23:22:01 | blair | maybe you kids should think "hey, lets clean it up and show him how to do it properly before throwing it into the trash" |
| 23:22:17 | captain_proton | blair: nono - i'll commit it |
| 23:22:22 | blair | jeezus that is why this game doesn't move anywhere |
| 23:22:33 | blair | if i saw some progress, maybe i would work on it even more. |
| 23:22:42 | blair | hell, even have a few different indicators to select from |
| 23:22:45 | blair | customize your tank, etc. |
| 23:22:48 | dinah | bah at the file i couldn't connect to! bah and bugger! |
| 23:22:57 | taD_gone | bugger? |
| 23:23:03 | blair | limey |
| 23:23:14 | blair | go and kiss the queen mum |
| 23:23:22 | Doug_busy | ah |
| 23:23:32 | dinah | cant figure out the command to start avifile |
| 23:24:19 | Doug_busy | bahs @ dinah |
| 23:25:24 | captain_proton | well, it almost links! |
| 23:25:32 | Doug_busy | heh |
| 23:25:34 | Doug_busy | almost... |
| 23:25:37 | blair | i mean, it was a pretty new addition, wasn't it proton? |
| 23:25:53 | dinah | thats odd all i can find in /usr/bin/ is avifile-config? |
| 23:25:56 | captain_proton | blair: hum? |
| 23:26:35 | blair | the shot indicator |
| 23:27:01 | captain_proton | what exactly do you mean? everything is a 'new addition' |
| 23:27:11 | blair | die |
| 23:27:16 | blair | sorry |
| 23:27:22 | blair | musta been playing recently |
| 23:27:28 | blair | how is the rain? |
| 23:27:50 | captain_proton | good |
| 23:28:04 | captain_proton | almost got the new sound stuff working, which will allow me to make it sound like its raining too |
| 23:28:22 | Doug_busy | ah |
| 23:28:23 | Doug_busy | cool |
| 23:28:58 | captain_proton | if it wouldn't segfault |
| 23:28:59 | captain_proton | =) |
| 23:29:16 | dinah | captain_proton: help i cant get that avi thingy to do its stuff |
| 23:29:45 | blair | proton: like 3d sound? |
| 23:29:55 | blair | like |
| 23:29:57 | blair | pitter patter |
| 23:29:59 | blair | bitter batter |
| 23:30:03 | blair | apple fritter? |
| 23:30:24 | Doug_busy | apple fritter? |
| 23:30:24 | captain_proton | yes, but rain is a local sound, not a world sound, so none of the 3d sound stuff applies |
| 23:30:29 | Doug_busy | oh |
| 23:30:31 | Doug_busy | rats |
| 23:30:41 | Doug_busy | bummer |
| 23:30:42 | Doug_busy | bof |
| 23:31:45 | blair | proton, know anything about xml? |
| 23:31:57 | Doug_busy | moo |
| 23:32:22 | captain_proton | blair: i know a thing or two |
| 23:32:28 | Doug_busy | hmm |
| 23:32:32 | | eXceptional Monkey Love |
| 23:32:32 | Doug_busy | ibot XML? |
| 23:32:36 | Doug_busy | ugh |
| 23:32:40 | Doug_busy | I hope not.... |
| 23:33:05 | blair | proton: you guys have a simple parser within bzflag? |
| 23:33:13 | dinah | feels ignored |
| 23:33:19 | captain_proton | blair: we have a parser - its not so simple anymore |
| 23:33:29 | captain_proton | blair: i've got an older version thats really simple |
| 23:33:48 | blair | proton: any transformation stuff? |
| 23:33:50 | captain_proton | dinah: i know know anything about aviplay |
| 23:33:57 | captain_proton | blair: uhm - 'scuse me? |
| 23:34:05 | blair | like xslt |
| 23:34:14 | captain_proton | hahahaha no |
| 23:34:34 | blair | yeah |
| 23:34:37 | blair | well then |
| 23:34:44 | captain_proton | we don't even do DTD's |
| 23:34:51 | blair | good fun |
| 23:35:14 | blair | thats pro |
| 23:35:28 | Doug_busy | do you see my name? |
| 23:35:45 | Doug_busy | do you? |
| 23:36:03 | captain_proton | wtf are you going on about Doug_busy? |
| 23:36:04 | blair | um |
| 23:36:07 | blair | yeah, wtf |
| 23:36:14 | Doug_busy | nothing |
| 23:36:25 | blair | ok, i don't get much work done when chatting with you |
| 23:36:25 | Doug_busy | how do I get invisible? |
| 23:36:26 | blair | later |
| 23:36:38 | captain_proton | what do you mean invisible? |
| 23:36:48 | Doug_busy | /mode Doug_busy -i |
| 23:36:50 | Doug_busy | right? |
| 23:36:59 | captain_proton | thats not what you think |
| 23:37:08 | Doug_busy | so what does it do? |
| 23:37:12 | captain_proton | it just means if someone does a /who #bzflag, it only shows people who don't have that mode set |
| 23:37:18 | captain_proton | (if they're not in #bzflag) |
| 23:37:20 | Doug_busy | oh |
| 23:37:22 | Doug_busy | rats |
| 23:37:33 | Doug_busy | bummer |
| 23:42:08 | dinah2 | HELLo |
| 23:42:14 | Widget | hihihi, jpablo. |
| 23:42:22 | dinah2 | hihihi |
| 23:42:30 | Widget | ¡Qué onda, vale! |
| 23:42:37 | jpablo | hey |
| 23:42:52 | Widget | dinah2: Nooooo! You switched nicks and I haven't ignored this one! |
| 23:43:00 | Widget | dinah2: Hm... but you haven't ignored me. |
| 23:43:01 | dinah2 | lol |
| 23:43:06 | dinah2 | ha |
| 23:43:11 | Widget | dinah2: This was a diabolical plot of yours, wasn't it? |
| 23:43:27 | Doug_HAHAHA | :) |
| 23:43:31 | Doug_HAHAHA | cool |
| 23:45:02 | Widget | Doug_HAHAHA: I shall be coming to your country in less than two months. |
| 23:45:22 | Doug_HAHAHA | ack |
| 23:45:23 | Doug_HAHAHA | sure |
| 23:45:28 | Doug_HAHAHA | try and find me.... |
| 23:45:31 | Doug_HAHAHA | MUAHAHAHA |
| 23:45:34 | Widget | Doug_HAHAHA: You try and find me! |
| 23:45:43 | Doug_HAHAHA | hmmm |
| 23:45:50 | Widget | Doug_HAHAHA: Hm... but that's not fair. You know my general location. |
| 23:46:07 | Doug_HAHAHA | I do? |
| 23:46:20 | Widget | Doug_HAHAHA: Well, if you still remember, then you know what university I shall be going to. |
| 23:46:26 | Widget | Doug_HAHAHA: If not, so much the better. |
| 23:46:26 | Doug_HAHAHA | ummm |
| 23:47:01 | Widget | I will give you a big hint. |
| 23:47:07 | Doug_HAHAHA | hold on |
| 23:47:10 | Doug_HAHAHA | tracking your ip |
| 23:47:21 | Doug_HAHAHA | bah |
| 23:47:22 | Widget | I am not even connected from my home computer. |
| 23:47:27 | Widget | And I am not in the UK yet. |
| 23:47:28 | Doug_HAHAHA | what is your ip? |
| 23:47:33 | Doug_HAHAHA | :) |
| 23:47:39 | Widget | I do not connect to IRC from home. |
| 23:47:46 | Doug_HAHAHA | AHA!!!! |
| 23:47:56 | Doug_HAHAHA | Middletown, New Jersey, United States |
| 23:47:57 | Widget | I use X-Chat running remotely. |
| 23:48:01 | Doug_HAHAHA | there ya are |
| 23:48:04 | Widget | Middletown? |
| 23:48:07 | Doug_HAHAHA | yup |
| 23:48:15 | Doug_HAHAHA | thats where your Xchat is |
| 23:48:18 | Doug_HAHAHA | now to.... |
| 23:48:24 | Widget | My X-Chat is in San Jose, California. =P |
| 23:48:35 | Doug_HAHAHA | hmm |
| 23:48:45 | Doug_HAHAHA | but your ISP is in Middletown, New Jersey, United States |
| 23:48:50 | Widget | It is? |
| 23:48:56 | Doug_HAHAHA | http://www.xpenguin.com/plot.php?address=12-234-138-157.client.attbi.com |
| 23:48:58 | Widget | The ISP for my friend's computer is AT&T. |
| 23:48:59 | Doug_HAHAHA | look and see |
| 23:49:13 | Widget | I do not know where that country is based. |
| 23:49:32 | Doug_HAHAHA | what country? |
| 23:49:41 | Widget | Er.... |
| 23:49:43 | Widget | that company. |
| 23:49:47 | Doug_HAHAHA | oh |
| 23:49:48 | Doug_HAHAHA | :) |
| 23:49:48 | captain_proton | AT&T is based in NJ |
| 23:49:50 | Doug_HAHAHA | well |
| 23:49:57 | Widget | Oh, it is? |
| 23:49:57 | Doug_HAHAHA | ATTbi.com |
| 23:49:59 | Doug_HAHAHA | see |
| 23:50:00 | Doug_HAHAHA | http://www.xpenguin.com/plot.php?address=12-234-138-157.client.attbi.com |
| 23:50:02 | Doug_HAHAHA | look |
| 23:50:03 | Doug_HAHAHA | http://www.xpenguin.com/plot.php?address=12-234-138-157.client.attbi.com |
| 23:50:04 | Doug_HAHAHA | see |
| 23:50:10 | Widget | Well...... it says Dinah is based in Louisville, Kentucky, United States. |
| 23:50:12 | captain_proton | Doug_HAHAHA: we heard you the first fucking time |
| 23:50:18 | Doug_HAHAHA | sorry |
| 23:50:22 | Doug_HAHAHA | really? |
| 23:50:24 | Doug_HAHAHA | dinah is? |
| 23:50:28 | Widget | Try your own IP. |
| 23:50:29 | Doug_HAHAHA | yea right |
| 23:50:36 | Doug_HAHAHA | I know where my own ip is |
| 23:50:36 | Widget | http://www.xpenguin.com/plot.php?address=208.147.39.133 |
| 23:50:40 | Doug_HAHAHA | thank you |
| 23:50:46 | Widget | See? It says right there! |
| 23:50:50 | Doug_HAHAHA | yea |
| 23:50:51 | Doug_HAHAHA | I am there |
| 23:50:54 | Widget | (208.147.39.133) is located in Louisville, Kentucky, United States. (38.25, -85.75) |
| 23:50:54 | captain_proton | actually it says she's in rochester NY |
| 23:50:55 | Doug_HAHAHA | dinah is not here |
| 23:50:59 | captain_proton | rr is based in louisville |
| 23:51:00 | Doug_HAHAHA | hmm |
| 23:51:01 | goofey | is away: Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. |
| 23:51:48 | Widget | And it says roc-204-210-158-82.rochester.rr.com (dinah's site) is based in Herndon, Virginia, United States |
| 23:51:57 | Doug_HAHAHA | hmm |
| 23:51:58 | Doug_HAHAHA | yea |
| 23:52:10 | Doug_HAHAHA | percys connection |
| 23:53:39 | dinah | ponders how to extract a .bz2 file... |
| 23:53:49 | Widget | bunzip2 |
| 23:54:04 | Doug_HAHAHA | hehe |
| 23:54:08 | Doug_HAHAHA | good luck |
| 23:54:10 | Doug_HAHAHA | ignore.... |
| 23:54:12 | Widget | captain_proton is located in Boulder, Colorado, United States (40.05, -105.21) |
| 23:54:19 | dinah | decides no one will answer and goes to look in the web... |
| 23:54:24 | Doug_HAHAHA | see? |
| 23:54:24 | captain_proton | <Widget> bunzip2 |
| 23:54:27 | Widget | dinah: Use bunzip2 |
| 23:54:55 | Widget | yoyox is from Wroclaw, Wroclaw Province. |
| 23:54:57 | Widget | In Poland. |
| 23:55:10 | Doug_HAHAHA | good |
| 23:57:35 | captain_proton | grr |
| 23:57:39 | captain_proton | i don't want to debug this |
| 23:57:43 | Doug_HAHAHA | hehe |
