| 00:13:17 | tad_mac_guy_gone | I think they he has too much time on his hands...... |
| 00:26:31 | Quol | hello all |
| 00:26:39 | Quol | can you guys get to the list server |
| 00:34:43 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea |
| 00:34:45 | tad_mac_guy_gone | I can |
| 00:34:46 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 00:35:12 | Quol | hmmm |
| 00:35:16 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm |
| 00:35:31 | Quol | guess it's back up, cause I can also now. thanks |
| 00:35:34 | tad_mac_guy_gone | tomita rulez |
| 00:35:38 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 00:35:52 | Quol | well - gotta go |
| 00:35:55 | Quol | CU |
| 00:35:56 | Quol | all |
| 00:50:42 | tad_mac_guy_gone | AHA!!! |
| 00:50:47 | tad_mac_guy_gone | I found a bug!!!!1 |
| 00:50:50 | tad_mac_guy_gone | in e6!!!! |
| 00:50:54 | tad_mac_guy_gone | HAHAHA!!! |
| 00:50:59 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ok |
| 00:51:41 | tad_mac_guy_gone | when you pause, and switch out and back into the game, it plays the sound effects |
| 00:51:53 | tad_mac_guy_gone | but I am paused..... |
| 00:51:55 | tad_mac_guy_gone | wierd... |
| 00:54:48 | | I haven't seen 'captainproton', fontenot |
| 00:54:48 | fontenot | ibot: seen captainproton |
| 00:55:05 | | captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 4 days, 15 hours, 34 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: going to eat [Mon Jun 24 10:20:33 2002] |
| 00:55:05 | fontenot | ibot: seen captain_proton |
| 00:56:44 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hes out of town |
| 00:59:56 | fontenot | tad_mac_guy_gone: thanks |
| 01:00:06 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 01:00:09 | | I feel like a wet parking meter on Darvon! |
| 01:00:09 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot yow |
| 01:00:13 | fontenot | tad_mac_guy_gone: I just just wondering where his server went |
| 01:00:19 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm |
| 01:00:19 | fontenot | I wanna play on decks again |
| 01:00:30 | tad_mac_guy_gone | he problebly has everything shutdown |
| 01:01:44 | | you are goofy |
| 01:01:44 | goofey | ibot: me |
| 01:02:03 | | ACTION looks for a new vein, and then shoots up |
| 01:02:03 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 01:02:05 | | ACTION looks for a new vein, and then shoots up |
| 01:02:05 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 01:02:08 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 01:02:08 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 01:02:10 | | tad_mac_guy_gone: sorry... |
| 01:02:10 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 01:02:13 | | ACTION passes out unconscious, needle in arm. |
| 01:02:13 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 01:02:15 | | tad_mac_guy_gone: huh? |
| 01:02:15 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 01:02:41 | | fontenot: (KSJC) 37-21-33N 121-55-27W 25M; Conditions at; last updated: Conditions at; Dew Point: 55.9 F (13.3 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.93 in. Hg (1013 hPa); Relative Humidity: 61%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 70.0 F (21.1 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the N (360 degrees) at 15 MPH (13 KT) |
| 01:02:41 | fontenot | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 01:02:49 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm |
| 01:03:00 | | tad_mac_guy_gone: Try a 4-letter station code (see http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/curcond.html for locations and codes) |
| 01:03:00 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot weather |
| 01:03:01 | tad_mac_guy_gone | um |
| 01:03:07 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ah thanks |
| 01:03:48 | | tad_mac_guy_gone: (KSDF) 38-10-38N 085-43-47W 146M; Conditions at; last updated: Conditions at; Dew Point: 66.9 F (19.4 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.01 in. Hg (1016 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.01 inches (0.5 hPa) higher than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 60%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 82.0 F (27.8 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the NE (050 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT) |
| 01:03:48 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot weather ksdf |
| 01:04:01 | tad_mac_guy_gone | YEA!!!! |
| 01:04:18 | tad_mac_guy_gone | http://www.xentex.com/voyager/index.html |
| 01:04:19 | tad_mac_guy_gone | dual head laptop^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 01:04:26 | fontenot | yep i saw that |
| 01:04:30 | tad_mac_guy_gone | bah |
| 01:04:34 | tad_mac_guy_gone | /. |
| 01:04:38 | fontenot | nod |
| 01:05:15 | goofey | emerges from the depths to comment |
| 01:05:28 | goofey | what I would like to see is standardized laptop parts |
| 01:05:40 | tad_mac_guy_gone | bows in front of goofey |
| 01:05:40 | fontenot | goofey: heh I totally agree |
| 01:05:46 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm |
| 01:05:47 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea |
| 01:05:51 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 01:06:01 | goofey | sure would save us some money and hassels |
| 01:06:06 | tad_mac_guy_gone | like a dvd-rom that will work in anylaptop |
| 01:06:08 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 01:06:11 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea |
| 01:06:14 | goofey | exactly |
| 01:06:19 | goofey | just like desktops |
| 01:06:24 | tad_mac_guy_gone | but there is slim/fast laptop |
| 01:06:25 | tad_mac_guy_gone | s |
| 01:06:42 | tad_mac_guy_gone | totaly diferent systems |
| 01:06:47 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :Z |
| 01:07:03 | goofey | true - but then we are only talking 2 diff styles |
| 01:07:08 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm |
| 01:07:11 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea... |
| 01:07:19 | tad_mac_guy_gone | then there is ultraslim |
| 01:07:24 | tad_mac_guy_gone | with external drive |
| 01:07:40 | tad_mac_guy_gone | and really really ultraslim tablet |
| 01:07:46 | tad_mac_guy_gone | with nothing in it |
| 01:08:11 | tad_mac_guy_gone | and then you have a laptop run over my a car, that is really really ultra super thin |
| 01:08:14 | goofey | um, but who buys those? |
| 01:08:21 | goofey | ouch |
| 01:08:23 | tad_mac_guy_gone | exec. |
| 01:08:29 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 01:09:44 | goofey | I'm talking to a guy w/ bzflag on linux - udp boots him out of the game |
| 01:09:50 | goofey | ver hear of this? |
| 01:09:51 | tad_mac_guy_gone | bummer |
| 01:09:53 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea |
| 01:09:58 | tad_mac_guy_gone | firewall blocking it |
| 01:10:01 | tad_mac_guy_gone | lots of things |
| 01:10:10 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Unfortunately... the 10,000 button Chinese keyboard won't ship until next year. They're still developing a way to make a stylus on the molecular level. |
| 01:10:45 | goofey | bummer about udp |
| 01:10:49 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm |
| 01:10:50 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea |
| 01:11:00 | tad_mac_guy_gone | and the chinese keyboard |
| 01:13:13 | goofey | yeah, that too. :) |
| 01:13:22 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :P |
| 01:13:23 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm |
| 01:13:58 | tad_mac_guy_gone | I would try turning off any software firewall, and turn on DMZ host on the hardware firewall |
| 01:14:14 | goofey | okay - I'll tell him |
| 01:14:26 | goofey | also, does hhe need to open any port besides 5155? |
| 01:14:33 | tad_mac_guy_gone | um |
| 01:14:34 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea |
| 01:14:43 | tad_mac_guy_gone | I dunno what they are |
| 01:14:46 | goofey | okay |
| 01:14:52 | tad_mac_guy_gone | I would open 1000-50000 |
| 01:14:53 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 01:14:58 | tad_mac_guy_gone | that would work |
| 01:14:59 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 01:15:06 | goofey | :) |
| 01:23:43 | goofey | is away: Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. |
| 01:46:26 | jzaun | port 5155 and whatever port you pass to the -pr option, both for tcp and udp... |
| 01:50:14 | Widget | Hoihoihoi. |
| 03:37:49 | Widget | hihihi, patlabor221. |
| 03:37:54 | patlabor221 | hey |
| 03:38:06 | patlabor221 | whats shakin? |
| 03:42:21 | patlabor221 | do you need an account to check stuff into CVs? or can it be done anon? |
| 03:43:07 | Widget | Into? |
| 03:43:12 | Widget | Yes, you need an account. |
| 03:44:08 | patlabor221 | I was gonna change some stuff for windows |
| 03:44:20 | patlabor221 | to get my mind off some shit |
| 03:44:26 | patlabor221 | guess it's plan B |
| 03:44:32 | patlabor221 | drinkin my self silly |
| 06:29:52 | iLLf8d | damn this gentoo takes forever to install |
| 06:44:29 | goofey | iLLf8d: but it's worth it. :) |
| 07:00:41 | fontenot | how does observer mode work? |
| 07:30:28 | MrApathyCream | cappy! |
| 07:30:45 | captain_proton | cream! |
| 07:31:39 | captain_proton | sup homey? |
| 07:32:04 | MrApathyCream | where you bin? |
| 07:32:49 | captain_proton | california |
| 07:33:18 | MrApathyCream | hmm |
| 07:34:32 | captain_proton | "generic pollygone" |
| 07:39:31 | MrApathyCream | 'member what the preferred wav settings are for BZ? 22.050x16? |
| 07:39:47 | captain_proton | believe so |
| 07:40:24 | captain_proton | haHA! |
| 07:40:36 | captain_proton | "I have great respect for the new HUD in v1.7e6, and it certainly is quite fancy." -- one of my personal friends |
| 07:40:59 | MrApathyCream | ha yes, its been quite vocal |
| 07:42:08 | captain_proton | CRS WOKE UP!!!!!!! |
| 07:43:00 | MrApathyCream | and even played! |
| 07:43:13 | captain_proton | who cares about playing |
| 07:44:14 | captain_proton | better that he hacks =D |
| 07:52:49 | fontenot | wb captain_proton |
| 07:53:03 | captain_proton | yo |
| 07:53:16 | fontenot | i miss decks |
| 07:53:51 | captain_proton | me too |
| 07:53:57 | captain_proton | i might be able to run the server now |
| 07:54:39 | fontenot | cool, I can't play right now so no rush on my account |
| 08:03:07 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 08:03:22 | captain_proton | damn can't |
| 08:06:40 | captain_proton | GNOME TWO DOT OH!!!!!!!!! |
| 08:06:53 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 08:07:25 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 08:07:40 | captain_proton | i hope i don't have to port bzedit to 2.0 - that would make me mad |
| 08:14:23 | MrApathyCream | looks like dervott or whatever he calls himself is making a new one |
| 08:14:42 | captain_proton | ? |
| 08:14:59 | MrApathyCream | a bzedit thingy |
| 08:15:14 | captain_proton | link me |
| 08:17:23 | MrApathyCream | http://pub33.ezboard.com/fbzflagfrm1.showMessage?topicID=260.topic |
| 08:18:58 | captain_proton | mmmm |
| 08:19:01 | captain_proton | mine is 3d |
| 08:19:05 | captain_proton | NYAH!!! |
| 08:19:33 | MrApathyCream | and *nix |
| 08:19:49 | captain_proton | but the windows version exists somewhere |
| 08:20:01 | MrApathyCream | java... yes.. |
| 08:20:13 | captain_proton | not java |
| 08:20:17 | captain_proton | native win32 |
| 08:20:55 | MrApathyCream | hmmm never saw, i guess |
| 08:22:44 | MrApathyCream | heh, -solo on ducati causes bullets to fly but no tanks |
| 08:22:52 | MrApathyCream | busted in e6? |
| 08:23:25 | captain_proton | could be |
| 08:23:54 | iLLf8d | theres an e2 bug too I thin |
| 08:24:06 | captain_proton | how to rotate a vector about an axis by a specific angle? |
| 08:24:16 | iLLf8d | when I raised the bases in the air on the ctf field people with e2 clients had theirs display on the ground |
| 08:24:29 | iLLf8d | hey cap you see the latest ctf release |
| 08:24:39 | iLLf8d | its close to being finished heh |
| 08:24:59 | MrApathyCream | first translate so that the vector is coincident with 0,0,0 |
| 08:25:21 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: haven't seen anything |
| 08:25:34 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: done already by virtue of the situation |
| 08:25:41 | iLLf8d | ah how was your vacation sorry know you guys are busy heh |
| 08:25:44 | MrApathyCream | then, rotate in so that it is coincident with pos z axis |
| 08:25:48 | MrApathyCream | then rotate around z axis |
| 08:25:53 | MrApathyCream | then undo transforms |
| 08:26:37 | iLLf8d | ooo |
| 08:26:43 | iLLf8d | can't wait to see reign of fire =) |
| 08:29:49 | iLLf8d | hey you now armoured smashing fist is copyrighted |
| 08:29:56 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 08:29:57 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 08:44:06 | captain_proton | so MrApathyCream... |
| 08:44:16 | captain_proton | tell me why this isn't working now that i'm rotating by the angle!!! |
| 08:44:28 | MrApathyCream | wassa? |
| 08:44:42 | captain_proton | realistic rain movement |
| 08:44:51 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 08:47:21 | MrApathyCream | stinkin, math |
| 08:48:31 | MrApathyCream | made the axis coincident with z, then rotated around z? |
| 08:49:51 | captain_proton | rot.setRotate(0, 0, -angle * 180.0 / M_PI, 1.0); |
| 08:50:05 | MrApathyCream | and it's the axis that needs to go thru 0,0,0 too, sorry |
| 08:51:50 | MrApathyCream | lessee, hmmm |
| 08:51:58 | MrApathyCream | translate negative to get to 0 |
| 08:52:23 | MrApathyCream | rotate around x to get to x/z plane |
| 08:52:32 | MrApathyCream | rotate around y to get coincident with z |
| 08:52:38 | MrApathyCream | now apply free rotation |
| 08:52:44 | MrApathyCream | then undo the y rot |
| 08:52:47 | MrApathyCream | then undo the x rot |
| 08:52:50 | MrApathyCream | then undo the translate |
| 08:52:54 | MrApathyCream | or something like that |
| 08:53:16 | captain_proton | i have two vectors - direction (x+y+0), north (1+0+0) |
| 08:53:25 | captain_proton | find angle = direction * north ( / 1) |
| 08:53:54 | MrApathyCream | huh? ( / 1)? |
| 08:54:22 | captain_proton | well, both direction & north are normalized |
| 08:54:32 | MrApathyCream | oh, ok |
| 08:54:34 | captain_proton | so what would normally be /(|a||b|) = /1 |
| 08:56:43 | MrApathyCream | here: http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~pbourke/geometry/rotate/ |
| 08:56:53 | MrApathyCream | i think i was right |
| 09:14:03 | teA_ | lalalalalalalala...... |
| 09:20:51 | teA_ | d00ds? |
| 09:23:42 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 09:23:45 | iLLf8d | d00ds |
| 10:03:57 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 10:04:16 | iLLf8d | hey all i'm trying to get bz working in gentoo and its complaining about missing glx? |
| 10:04:52 | iLLf8d | says uhm |
| 10:05:03 | iLLf8d | xlib extension glx missing on display 0:0 |
| 10:08:33 | fontenot | maybe you arent loading the extension in your x config file |
| 10:08:42 | fontenot | xdpyinfo |
| 10:08:47 | fontenot | see if the extension is there |
| 10:09:04 | fontenot | look in the XF86config file |
| 10:09:22 | fontenot | (or XF86config-4 if it exists) |
| 10:09:43 | fontenot | oops XF86Config-4 - the C is caps too |
| 10:09:52 | iLLf8d | theres an nvglx |
| 10:10:08 | iLLf8d | the glx extension is commented out on purpose |
| 10:10:16 | iLLf8d | so the nvidia driver is used instead |
| 10:10:42 | iLLf8d | hmm lemme check my old config |
| 10:10:49 | iLLf8d | I think they left something out in this new one |
| 10:11:08 | fontenot | Load "glx" # OpenGL X protocol interface |
| 10:11:20 | fontenot | that's in mine, and I am also using the nvidia binary drivers |
| 10:11:58 | fontenot | GLX |
| 10:11:58 | fontenot | NV-GLX |
| 10:11:58 | fontenot | NVIDIA-GLX |
| 10:12:07 | fontenot | all of those are in my xdpyinfo |
| 10:12:22 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 10:12:28 | iLLf8d | funny its in my old one too |
| 10:12:32 | fontenot | # Load "GLcore" # OpenGL support |
| 10:12:32 | fontenot | # Load "dri" # Direct rendering infrastructure |
| 10:12:36 | iLLf8d | tho in the gentoo howto the comment it out |
| 10:12:37 | fontenot | those need to be commented out |
| 10:12:49 | fontenot | for nvidia binary drivers |
| 10:12:59 | iLLf8d | I had it running in debian before |
| 10:13:14 | iLLf8d | do you have option nvagp settings also? |
| 10:13:21 | iLLf8d | seems theirs doesn't but my old one did |
| 10:14:03 | fontenot | checking |
| 10:14:53 | fontenot | nope I dont have that option, but this is a rather old config file - I havent updated it to all the latest nvidia driver options |
| 10:14:57 | fontenot | havent needed to |
| 10:15:35 | fontenot | jacques% cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |
| 10:15:35 | fontenot | Status: Enabled |
| 10:15:35 | fontenot | Driver: AGPGART |
| 10:15:35 | fontenot | AGP Rate: 4x |
| 10:15:36 | fontenot | Fast Writes: Disabled |
| 10:15:36 | fontenot | SBA: Disabled |
| 10:15:47 | fontenot | agpgart 12608 3 (autoclean) |
| 10:15:47 | fontenot | NVdriver 945536 10 (autoclean) |
| 10:16:06 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 10:16:44 | fontenot | in other words, I dont think you need that option to use agp |
| 10:19:10 | fontenot | i hope that helps you. I'm going to watch a dvd |
| 10:19:52 | fontenot | after you have climbed the learning curve, maybe I will ask you about gentoo :-) |
| 10:21:52 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 10:21:58 | iLLf8d | mine doesn't show the 2 drivers |
| 10:22:04 | iLLf8d | which kernel you running |
| 10:22:10 | iLLf8d | shows a similar status tho |
| 10:22:20 | iLLf8d | got it to load but 1024x768 is smaller then my desktop |
| 10:22:32 | iLLf8d | which makes no sense since the desktop is set to that in the first place |
| 10:23:04 | iLLf8d | it runs now |
| 10:23:22 | iLLf8d | like shit but thats probably cause i'm compiling mozilla and other things at the same time |
| 10:23:25 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 10:23:45 | fontenot | heh |
| 10:23:50 | fontenot | im running 2.4.18 |
| 10:23:57 | fontenot | i have agpgart built as a module |
| 10:24:15 | fontenot | my desktop is 1280x1024 |
| 10:24:28 | fontenot | i run bzflag with -window -geometry 1280x1024 |
| 10:24:41 | fontenot | that allows me to even switch virtual desktops |
| 10:25:02 | fontenot | what res does xdpyinfo say your desktop is set to? |
| 11:01:45 | teA_ | hello |
| 11:37:42 | iLLf8d | oh |
| 11:37:58 | iLLf8d | uhm yeah I had to add in the geom setting to get it to play nice |
| 11:38:08 | iLLf8d | I must've done it before just set it so long ago that I didn't recall it |
| 11:38:29 | iLLf8d | i've been in configs tweaking crap sorry |
| 11:38:34 | iLLf8d | thanks for the response tho |
| 11:38:36 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 12:26:51 | ^john | chestal? |
| 12:38:19 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 12:42:55 | Widget | Three minutes of stoppage time. |
| 12:43:01 | Widget | It's over. :( |
| 12:44:58 | Widget | My god! |
| 12:45:01 | Widget | Korea scores!!!!!! |
| 12:45:18 | Widget | But it's over now. :( |
| 12:45:22 | Widget | Too little, too late. |
| 14:12:25 | Chestal | hi akira |
| 14:12:27 | akira_ | moin |
| 14:12:52 | ^john | hello |
| 14:13:01 | akira_ | jh ? :) |
| 14:13:01 | Chestal | hmm, ult will nachher gegen annihilation spielen. Vielelicht haben wir ja auch 3 Moles |
| 14:13:04 | Chestal | hi jh |
| 14:13:34 | akira_ | glaub ich nich, es sei denn ich geh in die uni :) |
| 14:13:41 | Chestal | ah so ;-) |
| 14:13:55 | akira_ | aber vielleicht geh ich in die uni |
| 14:13:57 | akira_ | mal sehen |
| 14:14:08 | Chestal | jo, erst mal abwarten |
| 14:14:09 | akira_ | ist sfnet wieder oben ? |
| 14:14:14 | akira_ | will den patch einspielen |
| 14:14:15 | Chestal | scheint zu laufen |
| 14:15:01 | akira_ | jo, geht |
| 14:15:22 | [TeA|TrEE] | whoooohoooooooo |
| 14:15:29 | akira_ | what ? |
| 14:15:30 | [TeA|TrEE] | Skipp and jh ? |
| 14:16:10 | Skipp | yeah |
| 14:16:12 | ^john | yes |
| 14:16:20 | [TeA|TrEE] | ok |
| 14:16:21 | [TeA|TrEE] | so |
| 14:16:35 | ^john | so well see tomorrow |
| 14:16:36 | [TeA|TrEE] | today ore tomorrow |
| 14:16:39 | [TeA|TrEE] | when |
| 14:16:41 | [TeA|TrEE] | UTC |
| 14:16:42 | ^john | not today |
| 14:16:49 | Skipp | k |
| 14:16:49 | [TeA|TrEE] | UTC tomorrow |
| 14:17:04 | ^john | well talk to skipp |
| 14:17:05 | Skipp | ults will meet here at 18 utc tommorrow |
| 14:17:18 | Chestal | Pilotfish: wo bist du denn? |
| 14:17:20 | Chestal | oops |
| 14:17:27 | [TeA|TrEE] | ok |
| 14:17:31 | [TeA|TrEE] | On ducati |
| 14:17:31 | [TeA|TrEE] | ! |
| 14:17:37 | [TeA|TrEE] | we will take 4 red |
| 14:17:39 | Skipp | no here |
| 14:17:44 | Skipp | #bzflag |
| 14:17:44 | ^john | same to me |
| 14:18:04 | ^john | ok tomorrow then |
| 14:18:19 | Skipp | i guess since we are on we can play you guys too |
| 14:18:39 | Skipp | i will talk to quol and see what he thinks because he is sort of limited on time sunday |
| 14:18:44 | ^john | well around 10utc would be cool |
| 14:18:47 | ^john | 19 |
| 14:18:48 | ^john | sorry |
| 14:19:05 | ^john | but let's see tomorrow |
| 14:19:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | 4[ult] 1vs 09bz 0100Tomorrow 10UTC on #bzflag channel |
| 14:19:22 | Skipp | ults will be one from 18:00 UTC to 20:00 UTC |
| 14:19:28 | ^john | okay |
| 14:19:35 | [TeA|TrEE] | 0000,0001lala |
| 14:19:54 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00hmm |
| 14:20:07 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00skipp when are FrOoTLoOpS ? |
| 14:20:18 | ^john | we can improvise |
| 14:20:21 | ^john | tomorrow |
| 14:20:26 | Skipp | we are meeting here at 18:00 UTC to organize |
| 14:20:38 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00skipp ? |
| 14:20:38 | Skipp | tomorrow |
| 14:20:51 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00FrOoTLoOpS ? |
| 14:20:59 | Skipp | yeah and the moles too |
| 14:21:04 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00when |
| 14:21:05 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00when |
| 14:21:21 | Skipp | tommorrow between 18 UTC and 20 UTC |
| 14:21:32 | Chestal | not sure if there willbe 3 moles |
| 14:21:35 | Skipp | k |
| 14:21:38 | Chestal | I will try |
| 14:21:46 | Skipp | don't work too hard at it |
| 14:21:57 | Skipp | for some reason everyone wants to play the ults |
| 14:21:59 | akira_ | chestal .. i cant upload my new patch |
| 14:22:07 | Chestal | ehm |
| 14:22:14 | Chestal | "adjustable radar and control" isn't that your patch? |
| 14:22:22 | akira_ | yep |
| 14:22:24 | akira_ | but the file |
| 14:22:44 | Chestal | ah, hmm, why not? |
| 14:22:51 | akira_ | dont know |
| 14:22:54 | akira_ | konqueror |
| 14:23:04 | akira_ | try it now with netscape |
| 14:23:16 | Chestal | what happened? just no file stored? |
| 14:23:24 | akira_ | exactly |
| 14:23:44 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00Chestal and akira ? |
| 14:23:52 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00Lets have a little game on ducati ! |
| 14:23:56 | akira_ | eye cancer |
| 14:24:06 | akira_ | please disable your background stuff |
| 14:24:15 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00ok ? |
| 14:24:22 | akira_ | nope |
| 14:24:23 | akira_ | not ok |
| 14:24:28 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00:( |
| 14:24:31 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00LOL |
| 14:24:43 | Chestal | akira: hmm, .zip, shouldn't it just be one text file |
| 14:25:25 | akira_ | thats the wrong / old file |
| 14:25:40 | akira_ | want to delete it and Tracker Item: Nothing Changed - Update Cancelled |
| 14:25:40 | akira_ | File Delete: ArtifactFile: Permission Denied |
| 14:25:46 | Chestal | yes, I was just wondering because it was a zip |
| 14:25:55 | Chestal | hmm |
| 14:26:02 | akira_ | the old one was HUGE |
| 14:26:15 | akira_ | fucking win32 made a lot of <cr>s ... |
| 14:26:58 | akira_ | grml |
| 14:27:06 | akira_ | Chestal: ich geh wahrscheinlich gleich zur uni |
| 14:27:13 | Chestal | akira_: ich hab das file geloescht |
| 14:27:24 | akira_ | Chestal: danke |
| 14:27:39 | akira_ | ah, jetz hats geklappt |
| 14:27:43 | akira_ | bis spaeter |
| 14:31:29 | Chestal | hmm, there might be 3 moles later this day |
| 14:31:39 | Chestal | maybe some other team will be complete, too? |
| 15:09:40 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00aaaaaaaaaaah |
| 15:09:45 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00nice match |
| 15:10:41 | MrApathyCream | That's really annoying |
| 15:10:49 | Chestal | what? |
| 15:11:30 | MrApathyCream | teas hilited text |
| 15:12:15 | Chestal | hmm, I see no highlighting |
| 15:12:33 | MrApathyCream | black text on white backgroudn |
| 15:12:59 | MrApathyCream | 1is it this? |
| 15:13:04 | MrApathyCream | nope |
| 15:13:05 | Chestal | hi ULT, are you goign to play today? |
| 15:13:56 | Chestal | bold, inverse and underlined? are standard |
| 15:14:12 | Chestal | all colour stuff is some proprietary extension, probably started by mirc |
| 15:14:32 | MrApathyCream | 8hmm |
| 15:15:09 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00me? |
| 15:15:22 | Chestal | tea: what about ult? playing today? |
| 15:15:24 | MrApathyCream | your text for me is black on white background |
| 15:15:27 | Chestal | theremight be 3 Moles here soon |
| 15:15:36 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00Skipp hasnt got time :( |
| 15:15:49 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00MrApathy any problems that you have |
| 15:16:25 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00i think |
| 15:23:00 | jpablo | morning. |
| 15:23:41 | Chestal | hi pablo |
| 15:23:51 | Chestal | any idea if and when your team would be available today? |
| 15:26:18 | jpablo | in about 7:30 hours. |
| 15:26:35 | jpablo | maybe less, but i'm not sure. |
| 15:26:42 | Chestal | hmm, oh well, too late for me |
| 15:27:36 | taD_gone | 01,99lk |
| 15:28:01 | taD_gone | 01,1215ghhg |
| 15:28:25 | jpablo | i was thinking that we can play earlier, but something came up :-( |
| 15:37:07 | jpablo | ah, having a local debian mirror is the best. |
| 15:37:29 | jpablo | akira_: is your friend around ? i don't remember if i finished sending him the spriggan movie. |
| 15:37:31 | akira_ | moin |
| 15:37:36 | akira_ | its there |
| 15:37:39 | akira_ | he got it |
| 15:37:51 | akira_ | thx a lot |
| 15:37:58 | jpablo | oh, ok. |
| 15:41:27 | akira_ | Chestal: da ? |
| 15:41:48 | akira_ | moin jolly |
| 15:41:59 | jolly_ | hi akira |
| 15:42:18 | Chestal | he jolly |
| 15:42:35 | jolly_ | hi Ches |
| 15:45:52 | jpablo | humm, gnome2 take over my machine. |
| 15:46:56 | akira_ | really ? |
| 15:48:46 | jpablo | yeah. |
| 15:48:53 | jpablo | and it sucks :-( |
| 15:48:57 | akira_ | HAR |
| 15:49:15 | jpablo | all the options are gonne. |
| 15:52:03 | akira_ | dont like gnome |
| 15:52:13 | akira_ | looks nice but seems very .. strange coded :) |
| 15:52:57 | jpablo | humm. |
| 15:53:05 | jpablo | mantained the gnome-games for a while. |
| 15:53:33 | akira_ | so you are a hacker ? :) |
| 15:54:11 | Chestal | I once tried nautilus and went blind ;-) |
| 15:54:20 | jpablo | gnome-hacker :-P |
| 15:54:45 | jpablo | nautilus is the slowness thing ever. |
| 15:54:59 | jpablo | however it's a little better on gnome2. |
| 15:55:16 | Chestal | it has an abundance of eye candy |
| 15:55:35 | Chestal | far more than anything else I ever saw, be it Win whatever, OS X or KDE |
| 15:56:45 | jpablo | well, when i give a demostration about linux i generaly show nautilus to the people. |
| 15:56:50 | akira_ | i tried to compile gnome 1.4 and it sucks |
| 15:57:02 | jpablo | and they are amazed. |
| 15:57:16 | akira_ | for this you need this, what the documentation told you after you compiled all other stuff ... |
| 15:57:26 | akira_ | i like kde more |
| 15:57:32 | jpablo | akira_: compiling it is hard. |
| 15:57:40 | akira_ | looks not so cool, but its more useful i think |
| 15:58:11 | jpablo | so you know you are a sick person when you know all the dependency tree like me :-P |
| 15:58:38 | akira_ | jpablo: i know |
| 15:58:50 | jpablo | akira_: it's worse in gnome2. |
| 15:58:56 | akira_ | hehe |
| 15:59:00 | jpablo | akira_: gnome-libs splits in something like 5 or 6 libs. |
| 15:59:24 | akira_ | i really like the consistence of kdes libs and stuff / packagaes |
| 15:59:37 | akira_ | you comple kdenetwork -> you got the network stuff |
| 15:59:51 | akira_ | you compile kdelibs -> you got the libs needed for the rest |
| 16:00:48 | jpablo | well, the gnome possition is that normal users don't want to compile stuff. |
| 16:00:52 | jpablo | they just use packages. |
| 16:01:01 | jpablo | you compile it just if you want to hack on it. |
| 16:01:31 | akira_ | jpablo: even an admin or a package manager doesnt want to get crazy just to compile the stuff :) |
| 16:01:39 | Chestal | anything new about the lindows incident? |
| 16:02:24 | jpablo | dunno. |
| 16:03:12 | jpablo | damn, thoses powerbooks are beatiful. |
| 16:03:19 | jpablo | need some money. |
| 16:03:26 | akira_ | me needs money too :) |
| 16:03:53 | jpablo | http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ |
| 16:03:56 | jpablo | it's soooo nice. |
| 16:04:06 | akira_ | but i just want to buy one of this new gracards .. like a geforce 4 xgl 950 |
| 16:04:28 | akira_ | all the new code uses vertex and pixelshader and i want to code this kind of stuff too :) |
| 16:06:01 | jpablo | i'm happy with my matrox it's enougth to play bzflag, i don't need more. |
| 16:06:11 | akira_ | yep |
| 16:06:33 | akira_ | but i want to code some sort of volumerendering ... and there are pretty cool algorithms based on pixelshaders |
| 16:07:12 | jpablo | well, i'm going to the bath, i'll be leaving soon. |
| 16:07:28 | akira_ | cu |
| 16:09:32 | Pinguin | the penguins are quite complete now ... anyone want to play? |
| 16:10:07 | akira_ | moles would if they were 3 |
| 16:10:29 | Pinguin | how to set up a league play? |
| 16:11:11 | akira_ | stay here and ask chestal or someone else for a private server |
| 16:11:17 | akira_ | or port |
| 16:11:21 | Pinguin | OK! |
| 16:11:23 | akira_ | or game |
| 16:11:37 | akira_ | and then you and the other team enter the arena |
| 16:11:52 | akira_ | then you need a referee, whos not member of one of the teams |
| 16:12:08 | Pinguin | Great ... is there a team that want to wipe us out ... |
| 16:12:40 | akira_ | he will be an observer and leads through the game |
| 16:13:00 | Pinguin | Hm ... i guess everybody is afraid ... |
| 16:15:13 | taD_gone | 01,1215um |
| 16:15:40 | taD_gone | 01,1215goto ducati.bzflag.org port 59000 |
| 16:15:52 | taD_gone | 01,12150000,00dsf |
| 16:15:55 | Chestal | hi |
| 16:15:59 | Pinguin | taD_gone: me? |
| 16:16:00 | Chestal | moles vs. penguins? |
| 16:16:05 | taD_gone | 01,000000,02yea |
| 16:16:11 | Chestal | hmm, tankmann is gone |
| 16:16:12 | taD_gone | 01,020000,99fg |
| 16:16:13 | Pinguin | Hm ... the mighty moles ... ok! |
| 16:16:19 | taD_gone | 0002df |
| 16:16:22 | Chestal | tankmann is not on ICQ right now |
| 16:16:22 | taD_gone | 02better |
| 16:16:59 | Pinguin | What to do now? |
| 16:18:55 | Chestal | I'll try to contact tankmann as soon as possible |
| 16:19:10 | Chestal | if there is another team you could play now, but I guess there isn't |
| 16:20:05 | Pinguin | OK then we will wait until your team is complete ... waiting her in irc |
| 16:20:32 | taD_gone | 02/me thinks pinguin is misspelled |
| 16:20:38 | taD_gone | 02ah |
| 16:20:43 | Pinguin | maybe |
| 16:20:47 | taD_gone | 02/me thinks pinguin is misspelled |
| 16:20:49 | taD_gone | ?? |
| 16:20:52 | akira__ | i missed some stuff ? |
| 16:20:52 | taD_gone | d |
| 16:20:57 | akira__ | i was disconnected ? |
| 16:20:59 | akira__ | bah |
| 16:21:02 | taD_gone | thinks pinguin is misspelled |
| 16:21:04 | taD_gone | ah |
| 16:21:24 | Chestal | akira: cannot reach tankmann right now, when he comes back we could play the penguins |
| 16:22:44 | akira__ | ok |
| 16:25:08 | Pinguin | lalala |
| 16:36:36 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00chestal ?? |
| 16:36:51 | akira__ | please turn off your coloring |
| 16:36:58 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00??? |
| 16:37:06 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00what have i done ? |
| 16:37:13 | akira__ | i see your text inverted |
| 16:37:36 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,000000,0101better ? |
| 16:37:46 | akira__ | now i see it black |
| 16:37:53 | [TeA|TrEE] | 00test |
| 16:37:57 | akira__ | yeah |
| 16:37:59 | akira__ | thats good |
| 16:38:21 | [TeA|TrEE] | 0000,9902better |
| 16:38:29 | akira__ | blue ? worse |
| 16:38:30 | [TeA|TrEE] | 02now i think |
| 16:38:33 | [TeA|TrEE] | 02grml |
| 16:38:46 | [TeA|TrEE] | 02hmm |
| 16:38:59 | [TeA|TrEE] | 0202,0202,00now ? |
| 16:39:00 | akira__ | just let it white test on black background |
| 16:39:02 | akira__ | BAEH |
| 16:39:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,0002Damn this blood trillian |
| 16:39:19 | akira__ | not blue on grey bg |
| 16:39:28 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,000200test |
| 16:39:41 | [TeA|TrEE] | 01,00000202,99test |
| 16:39:44 | [TeA|TrEE] | 02hmm |
| 16:39:47 | akira__ | blue on black |
| 16:39:51 | [TeA|TrEE] | 02????? |
| 16:39:54 | akira__ | some seconds ago you had it |
| 16:39:59 | [TeA|TrEE] | 02damn |
| 16:40:00 | [TeA|TrEE] | 02wait |
| 16:40:09 | akira__ | dpnt know where the problem is ? which client do you use ? |
| 16:40:15 | [TeA|TrEE] | 0202,9901test |
| 16:40:17 | [TeA|TrEE] | aaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 16:40:19 | [TeA|TrEE] | now |
| 16:40:32 | akira__ | great |
| 16:40:46 | [TeA|TrEE] | because i have white back ground |
| 16:40:52 | [TeA|TrEE] | confusing |
| 16:40:56 | akira__ | aaah |
| 16:41:46 | [TeA|TrEE] | mensch bist ja auch deutsch |
| 16:41:49 | [TeA|TrEE] | LOL |
| 16:41:54 | [TeA|TrEE] | :) |
| 16:42:35 | akira__ | jo |
| 16:42:38 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 16:42:42 | [TeA|TrEE] | woher den ?!?!?! |
| 16:43:06 | akira__ | aus deutschland :) |
| 16:43:43 | [TeA|TrEE] | stadt |
| 16:44:44 | akira__ | eine schoene stadt :) |
| 16:44:44 | akira__ | md |
| 16:45:19 | bomber | hi pinguin |
| 16:46:28 | Pinguin | Hi bomberchen ... we are still waiting for Tankman ... then we can play with the moles |
| 16:46:45 | Chestal | but I cannot say when he will be back, I have no idea |
| 16:46:50 | akira__ | me neither |
| 16:47:08 | Pinguin | rough estimation of time ... 1min 10min 1h 10h ? |
| 16:47:16 | bomber | someone other interested ? |
| 16:47:27 | Pinguin | btw. www.bzflag.org is very slow right now ??? |
| 16:47:29 | Chestal | really no idea, earleir this day he was here, but there was no opponent available |
| 16:47:34 | Chestal | so maybe he left and won't come back today |
| 16:47:53 | Chestal | there will be several teams here tomorrow evening I guess |
| 16:50:09 | Pinguin | For us it is quite difficult to meet at the same time ... we hoped that we could have a play today ... |
| 16:50:35 | Chestal | yes, I understand |
| 16:51:00 | Chestal | for the MOles, nothing was planned, 3 of us were available at the same time by pure coincidence |
| 16:51:27 | bomber | pinguin are in holiday soon :o)) |
| 16:51:55 | Chestal | one Mole is on holiday already, and another hasn't been available for some time |
| 16:52:29 | Chestal | hmm, Tankenstein is on ducati right now, freelancer was earlier, maybe the meq team can organzie? |
| 16:53:03 | Pinguin | OK what do we have to do? |
| 16:53:28 | Chestal | well, I don't know, you can just try and talkto people |
| 16:53:45 | Chestal | you could also post to the challenges forum that you want to play now, maybe some team reads it and can improvise |
| 16:53:56 | Pinguin | OK ... |
| 16:53:57 | Chestal | has been difficult to arrange matches lately |
| 16:54:29 | Chestal | we coudl of course have an official match by adding a non-team player, but a real match would be more exciting of course |
| 17:01:28 | Pinguin | is a little bit disappointed, that there is no team to play with ... |
| 17:01:38 | akira__ | :( |
| 17:02:37 | jp_out | cap is here. |
| 17:07:39 | [TeA|TrEE] | Has somewone got XP ? |
| 17:07:58 | akira__ | nope |
| 17:08:58 | patlabor221 | I do at work |
| 17:09:04 | patlabor221 | and I'll be goin there in about 10 min |
| 17:30:24 | strayer | hi |
| 17:30:54 | Chestal | penguins stil here? |
| 17:31:11 | FantaZee | hey zees are comlpete |
| 17:31:21 | [TeA|TrEE] | whats going on |
| 17:31:26 | akira__ | nothing :) |
| 17:31:29 | bomber | yes |
| 17:31:35 | FantaZee | match ? |
| 17:31:38 | Pinguin | yey! |
| 17:31:40 | BeZee | nabend |
| 17:31:45 | [TeA|TrEE] | nabend |
| 17:31:50 | TLZAjax | hello |
| 17:31:50 | bomber | we are also complete |
| 17:31:58 | TLZAjax | will TLZ play? |
| 17:32:00 | akira__ | we not :) |
| 17:32:04 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 17:32:05 | BeZee | n i need 5 min |
| 17:32:05 | TLZAjax | I have a small half hour |
| 17:32:06 | FantaZee | yes |
| 17:32:09 | bomber | yes... |
| 17:32:15 | BeZee | without n:-) |
| 17:32:15 | [TeA|TrEE] | ducati:59000 ? |
| 17:32:27 | TLZAjax | i can play about 25/30 mins |
| 17:32:30 | FantaZee | ok lets have some training first |
| 17:32:30 | bomber | ducati is for us ok |
| 17:32:35 | TLZAjax | 59000? |
| 17:32:37 | FantaZee | lets go ajax |
| 17:32:37 | [TeA|TrEE] | colours ? |
| 17:32:43 | TLZAjax | TLZ red? |
| 17:32:46 | FantaZee | red |
| 17:32:49 | bomber | nwho against who ? |
| 17:33:33 | TLZAjax | penquins tlz? |
| 17:33:42 | bomber | ok |
| 17:33:48 | Pinguin | penguins are complete ... |
| 17:34:00 | TLZAjax | TLZ waiting at 59000 |
| 17:48:21 | viperman973 | jolly |
| 17:48:34 | viperman973 | how are you doing |
| 17:48:43 | viperman973 | how is everybody doing |
| 17:49:23 | strayer | 4:0...for TLZ |
| 17:52:55 | akira__ | 4:0 ? |
| 17:53:04 | akira__ | strong pingus i guess :) |
| 17:54:41 | Chestal | 8:0 already |
| 17:55:34 | akira__ | what ? |
| 17:55:47 | akira__ | Chestal: we need some victims too |
| 17:56:09 | Chestal | 9:0 |
| 17:57:22 | akira__ | woha |
| 17:58:02 | Chestal | 10:0 |
| 17:58:36 | akira__ | tss |
| 17:58:45 | akira__ | gift from heaven |
| 17:59:31 | Chestal | the poor penguins, Ithought they would do better |
| 17:59:39 | Chestal | one strong penguin (prodan) is not playing,though |
| 18:02:27 | Chestal | 10:1 at last |
| 18:02:42 | akira__ | ts |
| 18:05:15 | Chestal | it's over in one minute |
| 18:06:31 | akira__ | Chestal: forget about the .dsw stuff |
| 18:06:56 | akira__ | i cvs it over unix, tar the dir, move it to win32 and untar it with winzip |
| 18:07:05 | akira__ | works |
| 18:07:59 | taD_gone | woohoo, got linux running on my mac here :) |
| 18:08:00 | Chestal | ah, good |
| 18:08:16 | taD_gone | my 68k mac |
| 18:08:21 | taD_gone | hehe |
| 18:08:29 | Chestal | ok, so I'll enter 10:1 for the Zees, yes? |
| 18:08:57 | FantaZee | do it :) |
| 18:09:44 | Chestal | ok, ratings updated |
| 18:09:55 | bomber | thx ches.... |
| 18:10:24 | bomber | we need more training ...i guess |
| 18:10:32 | Chestal | bomber: yep, but I think your team isn't too bad |
| 18:10:53 | bomber | nice experiences for us...hmmm |
| 18:11:17 | Chestal | bomber: near the end you were doing better, it's hard to recover when you are under pressure all the time |
| 18:11:35 | Chestal | bomber: also,I think prodan is quite good,maybe he can join in next time |
| 18:11:48 | bomber | for our team the map was too open...no rico :o)) |
| 18:11:50 | taD_gone | bah @ debian |
| 18:11:56 | taD_gone | its too hard... |
| 18:12:02 | taD_gone | grins |
| 18:12:21 | bomber | yes he is...but he can play only in the work....:o)) |
| 18:12:37 | Chestal | hmm, that's a problem |
| 18:13:00 | bomber | but i hope we will better and better |
| 18:13:49 | bomber | bye to all...have a nice weekend.... |
| 18:14:02 | Chestal | bye bomber |
| 18:17:56 | Widget | Wait. Who did penguins fight? |
| 18:18:13 | taD_gone | hey widget |
| 18:18:19 | Widget | hihihi, taD_gone. |
| 18:18:19 | Chestal | Widget: The Zees |
| 18:18:27 | taD_gone | I got linux running on my mac |
| 18:18:28 | taD_gone | :) |
| 18:18:32 | taD_gone | my 68k mac |
| 18:19:40 | Widget | taD_gone: mkLinux? |
| 18:19:44 | taD_gone | um |
| 18:19:54 | taD_gone | http://mac.linux-m68k.org/docs/debian-2.2-mac68k-install.php |
| 18:19:57 | taD_gone | that one |
| 18:20:06 | Widget | Hm..... Debian. |
| 18:20:10 | taD_gone | ugh |
| 18:20:14 | Widget | You should have installed NetBSD. |
| 18:20:17 | taD_gone | bah |
| 18:20:21 | taD_gone | it would never run |
| 18:20:27 | taD_gone | brb |
| 18:20:52 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 18:20:58 | | no idea, tad_gone |
| 18:20:58 | taD_gone | ibot me? |
| 18:21:00 | Widget | Yes, it would. |
| 18:21:12 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 18:21:15 | taD_gone | hmmmm |
| 18:24:11 | taD_gone | every try to run a mac without a ball in your mouse? |
| 18:24:35 | taD_gone | HAHA!!! |
| 18:24:38 | Widget | Yes. My Mac has no mouse. |
| 18:25:17 | akira__ | Chestal: please delete the oldest patch ... |
| 18:26:40 | Chestal | hmm, 'new patch', yes? |
| 18:27:16 | akira__ | yep, the older one :) |
| 18:27:39 | Chestal | ok |
| 18:28:04 | akira__ | thanx a lot |
| 18:28:12 | akira__ | cu chestal, lass dich nich aergern |
| 18:29:53 | Widget | How does college admission work in Germany? |
| 18:30:18 | Chestal | well, first we would have to define what the German equivalent of the College is |
| 18:31:05 | Widget | The university. Like the ones that have Uni-_____.de domains. |
| 18:31:30 | Chestal | well, it depends |
| 18:31:44 | Chestal | for most subjects, you just choose your university and sign up |
| 18:31:46 | Chestal | no restrictions |
| 18:31:52 | Widget | Hm. Wow. |
| 18:32:01 | Chestal | for some subjects like medicine, there's a central organization where you have to apply |
| 18:32:01 | Widget | But does this mean that no university is better than the other? |
| 18:32:09 | Chestal | and this assigns students to universities |
| 18:32:33 | Chestal | when you have bad luck, you might have to wait 1 or 2 years, depends on your grades and other things |
| 18:32:55 | Widget | But won't everyone just sign up for classes at the best universities? |
| 18:34:03 | Chestal | well, yes, there have been tendencies like this |
| 18:34:13 | Chestal | this lead tosome universities to become overcrowded |
| 18:34:45 | Chestal | but students know that and so they might choose a university with not that big a name but a better professor/students ratio |
| 18:35:07 | Widget | Ah. |
| 18:35:12 | Chestal | and some universities might have additional restrictions for some subjects |
| 18:35:29 | Chestal | furthermore, a lot of students liek to study close to where they come from |
| 18:35:41 | Widget | Is there a test one must pass to be eligible to enter university? Like the baccalaureat? |
| 18:35:54 | Chestal | wow, that's a difficult word :-) |
| 18:36:03 | Widget | I don't know if I spelled it right. |
| 18:36:06 | Widget | "le bac". |
| 18:36:07 | Chestal | no, in general you only need to have the Abitur |
| 18:36:29 | Widget | What's the Arbitur? |
| 18:36:54 | Chestal | that's the highest type of graduation in school |
| 18:37:03 | Widget | Oh, OK. |
| 18:37:10 | Chestal | you'll get it after 13 years of school |
| 18:37:17 | Chestal | he proton |
| 18:37:21 | Widget | hihihi, captain_proton. |
| 18:37:25 | captain_proton | hey Chestal, Widget |
| 18:48:01 | taD_gone | hey cappy |
| 18:48:01 | FantaZee | chestal : is it possible that in the observer mode the names of the player are shown over the tanks ? |
| 18:48:11 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 18:48:12 | taD_gone | good idea |
| 18:48:13 | taD_gone | :) |
| 18:48:28 | Chestal | FantaZee: well, it certainly is not impossible :-), but I know of no easy way to do this |
| 18:48:49 | Chestal | I guess this would be an idea for 1.8 |
| 18:49:00 | FantaZee | yes, but you can think about that :) |
| 18:49:27 | captain_proton | is confused |
| 18:49:33 | FantaZee | ha ha |
| 18:53:45 | taD_gone | hey, I got linux running on my mac.... |
| 19:03:52 | captain_proton | hey tim |
| 19:04:09 | Chestal | did you see http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_details.php?id=744&pg=specs ? |
| 19:04:14 | taD_gone | yea |
| 19:04:18 | taD_gone | very bad boys... |
| 19:04:22 | taD_gone | sue them tim |
| 19:05:23 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 19:05:27 | taD_gone | yea.... |
| 19:05:44 | taD_gone | hey bzfrank |
| 19:05:51 | BZFrank | hi |
| 19:05:54 | Chestal | hi Onkel Frank |
| 19:06:09 | BZFrank | you droppong by.. :) |
| 19:06:17 | captain_proton | yo frank |
| 19:06:18 | BZFrank | eh, dropping ;) |
| 19:06:41 | captain_proton | wtf @ "3d tank" |
| 19:07:04 | Chestal | and no link to source code |
| 19:07:10 | Chestal | and it reads like they did a modified version |
| 19:07:13 | BZFrank | yeah, did they ask for permission? I emailed Tim already... |
| 19:07:23 | captain_proton | yeah - "derivative of bzflag" |
| 19:08:00 | BZFrank | great ;( |
| 19:08:06 | captain_proton | dunno about permission |
| 19:08:07 | taD_gone | boohoo |
| 19:08:17 | captain_proton | at any rate, they need to provide source |
| 19:08:40 | taD_gone | yea, and links to the home page of bzflag |
| 19:08:48 | BZFrank | what even bothers me more is that they do not give credits at all - you need to dig in the sepcs to find bzflag |
| 19:08:49 | Chestal | apropos homepage |
| 19:09:01 | Chestal | wasn't someoen working on a new one? |
| 19:09:02 | captain_proton | taD_gone: no |
| 19:09:07 | captain_proton | just source as per the GPL |
| 19:09:08 | Chestal | this one is really old now |
| 19:09:13 | Chestal | lots of outdated information etc. |
| 19:09:26 | BZFrank | bzflag.org... yes it is ancient ;) |
| 19:09:43 | BZFrank | but so is bzflag.de, Oma does not have time it seems... |
| 19:09:52 | captain_proton | yeah i was |
| 19:09:55 | captain_proton | http://bzflag.org/new/ |
| 19:10:29 | BZFrank | mhmmm. no spiffy pictures, no flash, nahh... ;) |
| 19:10:45 | Chestal | looks ok, but IMHO links should have a different colour |
| 19:10:53 | Chestal | I cannot see them without moving my mnouse over them |
| 19:11:03 | captain_proton | haha frank |
| 19:11:26 | captain_proton | is very impressed with their speeling |
| 19:11:34 | captain_proton | "DSL/Cabel Modem - 34 seconds" |
| 19:11:43 | BZFrank | still put on some screenshots, so people will see what it looks like |
| 19:11:54 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:12:00 | captain_proton | i could screenie 1.8 |
| 19:12:00 | BZFlag | re: lindows "3d tank": I have not yet seen it, I'm at OLS so I'll look into it after. |
| 19:12:24 | BZFlag | if anyone can DL it and look into it in more detail that would be appretiated. |
| 19:12:33 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 19:12:37 | BZFrank | Tim: yep, do it, they repackaged bz under a new name and without sources |
| 19:12:38 | taD_gone | you need lindows to download it |
| 19:13:04 | BZFlag | if it's the exact sources as bz with no changes then it's fin with me that they have no source. |
| 19:13:30 | captain_proton | even though they're distributing under a different name? |
| 19:13:34 | BZFlag | if it's modified in any way, then I do have issue with that and will contact them to resolve it. |
| 19:13:43 | BZFrank | they should give credit there credit is due |
| 19:13:56 | BZFrank | where... oh it is late again... ;) |
| 19:14:06 | BZFlag | if the name is different in the game menu, that's a change and would require they post the source. |
| 19:14:19 | taD_gone | hehe |
| 19:14:23 | taD_gone | true |
| 19:14:32 | BZFrank | after another 10 hours coding my mind is still in debug mode |
| 19:14:44 | captain_proton | i'm in debug mode too |
| 19:14:45 | captain_proton | it hurts |
| 19:14:56 | BZFlag | I would NOT be happy if they removed the credits file and/or the credits inside the game, and/or the changelog. |
| 19:15:08 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 19:15:16 | Chestal | captain: well, bzflag.org/new/ looks quite good |
| 19:15:24 | captain_proton | Chestal: yes it does ;) |
| 19:15:29 | Chestal | captain: what is still missing? |
| 19:15:36 | captain_proton | not all the content is posted |
| 19:15:47 | Chestal | I guess it would be nice to include updated HTML versions of the man pages |
| 19:15:49 | captain_proton | specifically i'd like to get the "get involved" pages written |
| 19:15:51 | Chestal | bzfla.gorg has ancient ones |
| 19:16:12 | Chestal | captain: but a little more colour couldn't hurt, I would really suggest using some colour for the links |
| 19:16:20 | Chestal | they're italics right now |
| 19:16:51 | Chestal | are all the things under 'help' new? I never saw them before |
| 19:17:21 | Chestal | btw., is port 5154 used for multicasting? I see all my bzfs binding to that port |
| 19:20:38 | Chestal | the reviews-link doesn't work |
| 19:20:57 | captain_proton | the help stuff isn't new, just reorganized to be easier to find/use |
| 19:21:03 | taD_gone | :) |
| 19:21:08 | captain_proton | and rewritten with proper grammar |
| 19:21:11 | BZFlag | well, they are about to cut my access here. |
| 19:21:16 | taD_gone | hmm? |
| 19:21:20 | Chestal | captain: probably not quite uptodate then? |
| 19:21:34 | captain_proton | Chestal: not quite |
| 19:22:14 | captain_proton | specifically the 'customization' bit |
| 19:22:23 | Chestal | but I agree with Onkel Frank: screenshots are a must |
| 19:22:30 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmmm |
| 19:22:31 | Chestal | should even have an own section for it |
| 19:22:41 | [TeA|TrEE] | whats the discusion |
| 19:22:42 | BZFlag | taD_gone: OLS is shutting down the network here. |
| 19:22:45 | captain_proton | yeah ok |
| 19:22:55 | taD_gone | oh |
| 19:22:58 | Chestal | doesn't Dukot have some good ones on his site? |
| 19:23:00 | taD_gone | bummer |
| 19:23:11 | [TeA|TrEE] | chestal: seen already then[ult] logo |
| 19:23:12 | BZFlag | yep here goes... cya |
| 19:23:52 | taD_gone | ouch |
| 19:24:20 | captain_proton | he's got radar screenshots of worlds |
| 19:24:21 | taD_gone | there goes bzflag to fend for himself with no connection tot eh outside |
| 19:24:36 | Chestal | tea: hmm :-) |
| 19:25:40 | captain_proton | OMG |
| 19:25:55 | captain_proton | angle = dir * north; should be angle = acos(dir * north); |
| 19:25:57 | captain_proton | is an idiot |
| 19:26:59 | BZFrank | I know the feeling.... |
| 19:27:35 | BZFrank | I search yesterday all afternoon for a bug that caused corruption of my partition algorithm |
| 19:27:36 | Chestal | someone should make new screenshots |
| 19:27:37 | taD_gone | lol |
| 19:27:44 | Chestal | everythign I find are those old ones from bzflag.org |
| 19:27:45 | captain_proton | i can make screenshots of 1.8 |
| 19:27:48 | Chestal | hmm |
| 19:27:53 | Chestal | we shouls have some of 1.7, too |
| 19:27:54 | captain_proton | i am unwilling to do shots of 1.7 because of gamma |
| 19:28:01 | Chestal | with different worlds |
| 19:28:06 | BZFrank | only to find that on the add function I supplied x,z and on the remove function x,y ;) |
| 19:28:09 | Chestal | gm, laser, etc., using roaming mode |
| 19:28:32 | Chestal | proton: what's the problem with gamma? |
| 19:28:49 | captain_proton | Chestal: when you screenshot, 1.8 applies the correction (brightness). 1.7 does not |
| 19:29:15 | Chestal | well, gamam can be applied after that, using pnmtools for example |
| 19:29:19 | BZFrank | so make the screenshot on windows using analog X capture, works great |
| 19:29:30 | captain_proton | Chestal: i'm unwilling to do it ;) |
| 19:29:44 | Chestal | captain_proton: when somebody supplies the raw images, I can apply gamma |
| 19:29:49 | Chestal | that's really easy |
| 19:30:02 | Chestal | but we should test it first if it looks good |
| 19:30:14 | captain_proton | Chestal: i could supply some .raw's for you from 1.7 |
| 19:30:21 | Chestal | of course, it's also possible to do a screenshot with an external program |
| 19:30:34 | Chestal | proton: send me one so I can try with the gamma |
| 19:32:26 | captain_proton | rebuilds his 1.7 client |
| 19:38:31 | taD_gone | steps on his power strip, killing a computer |
| 19:38:58 | taD_gone | whaches his mac painfully boot up with only 20 megs of ram in it |
| 19:39:08 | taD_gone | bah |
| 19:39:14 | taD_gone | cant spell at all |
| 19:39:55 | BZFrank | 20 megs, an old 68k box or? |
| 19:40:02 | taD_gone | yup |
| 19:40:10 | taD_gone | I am trying to install linux on it |
| 19:40:11 | taD_gone | :) |
| 19:40:35 | taD_gone | oh yea, my mouse has no ball in it |
| 19:40:40 | taD_gone | and its a mac..... |
| 19:41:07 | captain_proton | eeek |
| 19:41:16 | captain_proton | i think f11 might have stepped on snapping's toes |
| 19:41:30 | taD_gone | heh |
| 19:42:22 | BZFrank | I also have an only Quadra 700 somewhere in my lab |
| 19:42:48 | BZFrank | old... that is ;) |
| 19:42:56 | taD_gone | lol |
| 19:43:07 | taD_gone | I have a centris 650 I think |
| 19:43:11 | taD_gone | and a LC 520 |
| 19:43:14 | taD_gone | :) |
| 19:43:22 | taD_gone | I am installing linux on the LC 520 |
| 19:43:32 | taD_gone | cuz its the only mac with a FPU in it |
| 19:43:36 | taD_gone | harhat |
| 19:43:56 | taD_gone | booting..... |
| 19:44:02 | taD_gone | oops |
| 19:44:10 | taD_gone | no memory left |
| 19:44:13 | BZFrank | kinda slow boxes compared with todays cpus, but work well |
| 19:44:40 | taD_gone | lol |
| 19:44:41 | taD_gone | yea |
| 19:44:51 | taD_gone | and I have a G4 next to me too |
| 19:45:05 | taD_gone | bah |
| 19:45:09 | taD_gone | I hate aliases |
| 19:45:29 | BZFrank | yeah, I also have an IBook for more serious work ;) |
| 19:46:03 | taD_gone | lol |
| 19:46:05 | taD_gone | :) |
| 19:46:32 | taD_gone | ok |
| 19:46:34 | taD_gone | booting...... |
| 19:46:41 | taD_gone | bah |
| 19:46:44 | taD_gone | memory |
| 19:47:09 | captain_proton | install lindows ;) |
| 19:47:41 | taD_gone | bah |
| 19:47:51 | taD_gone | lindows = ugh |
| 19:47:59 | taD_gone | lindows = thief |
| 19:48:16 | BZFrank | yep, my opinion too |
| 19:48:19 | taD_gone | lindows = microsoft |
| 19:48:25 | taD_gone | woohoo, its booting |
| 19:48:26 | taD_gone | :) |
| 19:48:27 | captain_proton | but if you have lindows, you can play 3d tank |
| 19:48:32 | captain_proton | everybody's favorite game |
| 19:48:33 | taD_gone | ah yes... |
| 19:48:36 | taD_gone | you can... |
| 19:48:42 | taD_gone | bah, for a price.... |
| 19:49:07 | BZFrank | oohhh wow, now thats the ticket laddie! I will install lindows right away! ;) |
| 19:49:21 | taD_gone | lol |
| 19:49:23 | taD_gone | oops |
| 19:49:25 | taD_gone | darn |
| 19:49:38 | taD_gone | my mac froze up, cuz it had no drive too boot off uf |
| 19:49:43 | taD_gone | :) |
| 19:49:52 | taD_gone | just the kernal and me.... |
| 19:49:54 | taD_gone | sniff |
| 19:52:43 | BZFrank | later folks, need some sleep |
| 19:53:26 | taD_gone | cya |
| 19:53:34 | BZFrank | happy macbooting ;) |
| 19:54:17 | taD_gone | heh |
| 19:55:57 | captain_proton | brb - gotta go extricate a dead raccoon |
| 19:57:00 | taD_gone | haha |
| 20:00:52 | | no idea, tad_gone |
| 20:00:52 | taD_gone | ibot me? |
| 20:00:59 | | somebody said lindows was a Linux distribution that says they will be fully compatable with windows |
| 20:00:59 | taD_gone | ibot lindows? |
| 20:01:31 | | okay, taD_gone. |
| 20:01:31 | taD_gone | ibot lindows is also a thief, a crook, and a microsoft in sheeps clothing |
| 20:01:38 | | rumour has it lindows is a Linux distribution that says they will be fully compatable with windows or a thief, a crook, and a microsoft in sheeps clothing |
| 20:01:38 | taD_gone | ibot lindows? |
| 20:18:30 | captain_proton | anybody willing to help me finish up the new web site right now? |
| 20:18:56 | taD_gone | um |
| 20:18:58 | taD_gone | like how? |
| 20:19:41 | captain_proton | the big thing is to rewrite the 'players guide' |
| 20:20:34 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 20:20:34 | taD_gone | rewrite it eg? |
| 20:20:34 | taD_gone | eh? |
| 20:20:34 | taD_gone | where is it? |
| 20:20:34 | captain_proton | http://bzflag.org/help-play.html |
| 20:20:34 | captain_proton | second part |
| 20:21:09 | taD_gone | um |
| 20:26:24 | taD_gone | the flags part? |
| 20:26:25 | captain_proton | the entire thing |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | oh |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | but if I do it.... |
| 20:26:25 | captain_proton | from the "Players Guide" heading to the bottom |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | ok |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | but if I do it, you can make one copy for backup, and it should not be on more than one server at a time.... |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | (microsoft rules) |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | :) |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | I can try fixing it.... |
| 20:26:25 | taD_gone | :) |
| 20:29:19 | taD_gone | aufpoppt? |
| 20:29:27 | captain_proton | shrugs |
| 20:29:30 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 20:29:38 | taD_gone | *Never* stop - [ also 'only for orientation'! As soon as one |
| 20:29:38 | taD_gone | aufpoppt, immediately it drives all the same where. ] |
| 20:29:43 | taD_gone | :? |
| 20:29:46 | taD_gone | wierd.... |
| 20:30:39 | captain_proton | all the stuff in brackets were things that whoever translated it couldn't fix up |
| 20:30:49 | taD_gone | oh |
| 20:30:49 | taD_gone | ok |
| 20:30:55 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 20:31:00 | taD_gone | so thats my job eh? |
| 20:31:24 | captain_proton | yep |
| 20:31:30 | taD_gone | ack |
| 20:31:56 | taD_gone | woehnen |
| 20:31:56 | taD_gone | ? |
| 20:32:03 | taD_gone | do I need to learn german? |
| 20:32:04 | taD_gone | sheesh |
| 20:33:02 | captain_proton | i don't need a translation |
| 20:33:05 | taD_gone | bah |
| 20:33:09 | captain_proton | just rewrite things based on the context around them |
| 20:34:12 | taD_gone | sure |
| 20:35:20 | taD_gone | hey |
| 20:35:32 | Widget | ult v. bz!?!? |
| 20:35:32 | Widget | Noooooooooo! |
| 20:35:39 | taD_gone | help cappy_proton with his web page? |
| 20:35:42 | taD_gone | :P |
| 20:36:41 | taD_gone | also 'only for orientation! As soon as one appears, immediately move into a safer area. |
| 20:36:43 | taD_gone | better? |
| 20:36:53 | Widget | Huh? |
| 20:36:59 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 20:37:05 | taD_gone | http://bzflag.org/help-play.html |
| 20:37:09 | taD_gone | read that^^^^^^^6 |
| 20:37:21 | taD_gone | tell me if you can make sense of that web page.... |
| 20:37:28 | taD_gone | :) |
| 20:37:31 | taD_gone | >:) |
| 20:37:32 | captain_proton | better, but not great |
| 20:37:37 | taD_gone | ok.... |
| 20:37:47 | Widget | 1800 UTC is..... 6 in the morning!!!! |
| 20:37:50 | Widget | Gaaaaaaaah! |
| 20:37:51 | taD_gone | lol |
| 20:38:47 | Widget | "Boah, which flag there before me nehm I still" |
| 20:38:52 | taD_gone | also 'only for orientation! As soon as one appears, immediately move, never sit there waiting for a tank to come to you. |
| 20:38:54 | taD_gone | better? |
| 20:39:08 | taD_gone | Widget: hehe, I have to rewrite that |
| 20:39:23 | taD_gone | any idea what that phrase means? |
| 20:39:44 | captain_proton | what comes before 'also' ? |
| 20:39:50 | taD_gone | um |
| 20:39:57 | taD_gone | um, nothing |
| 20:39:57 | taD_gone | :) |
| 20:39:59 | taD_gone | er |
| 20:40:03 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 20:40:24 | taD_gone | As soon as one appears, immediately move, never sit there waiting for a tank to come to you. |
| 20:40:27 | taD_gone | better? |
| 20:40:30 | taD_gone | hehe |
| 20:40:50 | captain_proton | yes |
| 20:40:53 | taD_gone | :) |
| 20:41:19 | taD_gone | bah @ frontpage |
| 20:41:25 | captain_proton | eek @ frontpage |
| 20:41:29 | taD_gone | why am I using it? |
| 20:41:35 | taD_gone | golive rulez |
| 20:41:37 | taD_gone | :) |
| 20:42:04 | taD_gone | can it wrap around? |
| 20:42:09 | taD_gone | the text? |
| 20:42:30 | captain_proton | um - i'll probably end up reformatting it anyways |
| 20:42:43 | taD_gone | ok |
| 20:44:07 | taD_gone | holst music..... good to work with.... |
| 20:51:48 | taD_gone | [Lernen, during the turn to shoot] (only advisable on fast systems).?? |
| 20:52:01 | taD_gone | makes no sense to me.... |
| 20:52:08 | taD_gone | lermen? |
| 20:52:10 | taD_gone | hmmm |
| 20:52:19 | captain_proton | shrugs again |
| 20:52:24 | taD_gone | heh |
| 20:52:37 | teA_ | lalala |
| 20:55:15 | taD_gone | ok.... now explain this word: kollisionserkennung |
| 21:01:00 | taD_gone | why not use another help page? |
| 21:01:19 | taD_gone | instead of translating the stuff the computer did not get.... |
| 21:01:37 | taD_gone | why not get gerbils help pages |
| 21:01:38 | taD_gone | :) |
| 21:01:48 | taD_gone | hmm |
| 21:02:22 | FantaZee | hi tad |
| 21:02:28 | taD_gone | hello |
| 21:02:47 | FantaZee | collision detection |
| 21:02:55 | taD_gone | oh |
| 21:02:58 | taD_gone | bah |
| 21:03:09 | taD_gone | could you trans late someother stuff? hehe |
| 21:03:12 | teA_ | iiiiiiiiiih |
| 21:03:13 | FantaZee | http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/ |
| 21:03:18 | taD_gone | ah |
| 21:03:22 | taD_gone | thx |
| 21:03:29 | FantaZee | np :) |
| 21:03:45 | teA_ | fantzee |
| 21:03:50 | FantaZee | yes ? |
| 21:03:58 | teA_ | kommst du aus chemnitz? |
| 21:04:11 | FantaZee | noe, dortmund. bvb :)) |
| 21:04:15 | teA_ | lol |
| 21:04:21 | FantaZee | du ? |
| 21:04:21 | teA_ | München ! |
| 21:04:23 | teA_ | :) |
| 21:04:24 | FantaZee | aua |
| 21:04:28 | teA_ | lol |
| 21:04:32 | Widget | German is so confusing. Inflected articles! |
| 21:04:35 | Widget | Inflected everything! |
| 21:04:36 | Widget | gah!!!! |
| 21:04:39 | taD_gone | bah |
| 21:04:41 | teA_ | lol widget |
| 21:04:44 | FantaZee | das hat hier noch gefehlt tea |
| 21:04:53 | Widget | teA_: It's a plot, I say. |
| 21:05:31 | Widget | taD_gone: A plot to prevent foreigners from learning German. |
| 21:06:00 | Widget | Er.... |
| 21:06:03 | Widget | That was to teA_. |
| 21:06:04 | taD_gone | lo. |
| 21:06:05 | FantaZee | but the germans rulez in bzflag :))) |
| 21:06:06 | taD_gone | lol |
| 21:06:11 | taD_gone | ok |
| 21:06:16 | taD_gone | I have to go |
| 21:06:20 | FantaZee | nbye |
| 21:06:23 | FantaZee | args |
| 21:06:26 | FantaZee | nnnnnnn |
| 21:06:38 | Widget | Bis bald, tad_mac_gone_for |
| 21:08:30 | tad_gone_for_rea | gh |
| 21:09:36 | FantaZee | bye all |
| 21:09:43 | Widget | Bye, FantaZee. |
| 21:09:46 | FantaZee | must go now |
| 21:39:16 | teA_ | ill go noe |
| 21:39:44 | captain_proton | starts downloading packages for gnome 2.0 |
| 21:40:06 | Widget | Ick. Guh-nome |
| 21:40:25 | captain_proton | better than KDE |
| 21:41:08 | Widget | That's true. |
| 21:41:10 | Widget | Don't use either. |
| 21:41:41 | captain_proton | i don't use the session management in gnome |
| 21:41:48 | captain_proton | but the APIs are unparalleled |
| 21:42:21 | Widget | So.... just install gnomelibs. |
| 21:42:38 | captain_proton | well - i do, basically |
| 21:42:55 | captain_proton | but i use some apps, like gnome-term |
| 21:43:21 | captain_proton | so i install a good portion of the system, but not everything |
| 21:44:25 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:44:37 | captain_proton | whats the method to find if a vector is on the right or left of another? |
| 21:47:24 | Widget | Uh? |
| 21:48:14 | captain_proton | the angle value i get is always between 0 and -180 because its the acute angle |
| 21:48:28 | captain_proton | so i need to know which 'side' the vector is on |
| 21:50:50 | Widget | Philoi, kakon men ostis empeiros kurei, epistatai brotoisin us otan kludun kakun epelthi panta deimainein philei. |
| 22:12:32 | captain_proton | oH! |
| 22:12:33 | captain_proton | png boy! |
| 22:12:42 | captain_proton | i need a lens flare on a transparent background |
| 22:35:50 | ^jh^ | anyone here |
| 22:36:48 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: !! |
| 22:37:16 | ^jh^ | apathy a question |
| 22:40:49 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 22:40:51 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 22:41:23 | ^jh^ | yes |
| 22:41:39 | ^jh^ | how can i specify version in cvs download? |
| 22:41:41 | ^jh^ | win32 |
| 22:41:52 | MrApathyCream | cvs co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 22:41:55 | MrApathyCream | gets 1.7 |
| 22:41:59 | MrApathyCream | cvs co -PdA |
| 22:42:01 | MrApathyCream | gets 1.8 |
| 22:42:05 | captain_proton | no -Pda |
| 22:42:06 | ^jh^ | ok |
| 22:42:07 | captain_proton | cvs co bzflag |
| 22:42:11 | captain_proton | -Pda is for cvs up |
| 22:42:17 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 22:42:18 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 22:42:27 | MrApathyCream | first time co |
| 22:42:28 | MrApathyCream | second time |
| 22:42:33 | MrApathyCream | cvs up -PdA |
| 22:43:19 | ^jh^ | in 1.7 there is hud like e5? |
| 22:43:31 | ^jh^ | not e6 |
| 22:43:45 | captain_proton | 1.7 cvs is the new HUD |
| 22:43:58 | captain_proton | cvs = absolute latest code |
| 22:44:04 | ^jh^ | i know |
| 22:44:15 | ^jh^ | so the 1.6 hud? |
| 22:44:30 | ^jh^ | transparent |
| 22:45:17 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 22:45:34 | ^jh^ | don't like it much myself |
| 22:46:07 | jpablo | any team here ? |
| 22:59:49 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: quick |
| 23:00:07 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: how does one figure out which 'side' of one vector another one is? |
| 23:39:13 | MrApathyCream | WOW server lbpdc has flags sinking into the ground... neat effect |
| 23:40:50 | captain_proton | <captain_proton> MrApathyCream: how does one figure out which 'side' of one vector another one is? |
| 23:41:16 | MrApathyCream | if these vectors are in same plane, can do cross product |
| 23:43:39 | captain_proton | what does that give? |
| 23:44:08 | captain_proton | i mean |
| 23:44:08 | MrApathyCream | well let's say the vectors are in the x-y plane (where z is up) |
| 23:44:13 | captain_proton | how does one interpret the resulting vector? |
| 23:44:14 | MrApathyCream | one way will give pos z, one neg z |
| 23:44:32 | captain_proton | aha |
| 23:56:36 | captain_proton | WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 23:59:00 | MrApathyCream | work? |
| 23:59:04 | MrApathyCream | i take it? |
| 23:59:11 | captain_proton | yes it does |
| 23:59:15 | captain_proton | realistic rain motion =D |
| 23:59:18 | MrApathyCream | this is the rain slant? |
| 23:59:41 | captain_proton | not slant |
| 23:59:52 | captain_proton | when you move, the rain acts as it should |
| 23:59:56 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 23:59:59 | MrApathyCream | cool |