| 00:05:50 | taD_ | howohowoho |
| 00:08:09 | captain_proton | heyhey tim |
| 00:12:10 | BZFlag | hey hey. doing some ui hacking... here comes a commit. |
| 00:13:00 | captain_proton | braces himself |
| 00:13:02 | BZFlag | removed teamareas, left over statusarea code, added team counts to the score |
| 00:13:10 | captain_proton | ahh nice |
| 00:13:23 | BZFlag | remove panelsize and viewsize references |
| 00:14:12 | captain_proton | i realized the motivation for encoding the panel coords in the rgb file |
| 00:14:50 | captain_proton | you could potentially replace the panel graphic with another that had the radar/messages boxes in different places, and it would work |
| 00:15:29 | BZFlag | yeah, but nobody ever did and now they won't. ;-) |
| 00:15:45 | captain_proton | menus are way too high |
| 00:16:07 | captain_proton | it cuts off the top |
| 00:16:40 | BZFlag | huh? what menus? |
| 00:17:06 | captain_proton | all of them |
| 00:17:25 | captain_proton | also, the bigger font makes the coords on the target box fugly |
| 00:18:39 | BZFlag | have not tracked why the font is bigger yet. |
| 00:18:52 | BZFlag | make clean;make |
| 00:19:02 | captain_proton | whats the command you used to get recent changes in cvs? |
| 00:19:11 | BZFlag | I suspect you ahve something stale. my menus are fine. |
| 00:19:17 | BZFlag | cvs up -Pdr v1_7 |
| 00:19:23 | captain_proton | no that that |
| 00:19:25 | captain_proton | not* |
| 00:19:30 | captain_proton | to list changes |
| 00:19:30 | BZFlag | cvs commit ? |
| 00:19:35 | BZFlag | cvs diff |
| 00:19:50 | captain_proton | lets start over |
| 00:19:55 | captain_proton | list recently committed things |
| 00:20:20 | captain_proton | menus are ok now |
| 00:20:56 | BZFlag | ah.. I'm not sure how to do diff on the branch. I can use: cvs diff -u -D "1 day ago" on the head but I can't seem to figure the -r v1_7 syntax. |
| 00:23:57 | captain_proton | i'll just look on cvsweb |
| 00:27:48 | captain_proton | grr @ cvsweb |
| 00:28:12 | BZFlag | k, reduced the font sizes. they were based on viewhight before. |
| 00:29:37 | iLLf8d | PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Farscape season premiere tonight =) |
| 00:29:49 | jolly | if i wanted to download e5 i would have to go to sourceforge right? |
| 00:31:20 | captain_proton | jolly: you have to get it from CVS |
| 00:31:47 | jolly | hmm |
| 00:35:34 | captain_proton | BZFlag: looks good now |
| 00:36:25 | BZFlag | does the old control panel area flash gray for you on startup? mine does and I don't know where the code is for that. |
| 00:37:12 | captain_proton | yeah it does |
| 00:40:54 | BZFlag | hmm. would be nice to find and kill that |
| 00:42:31 | captain_proton | is looking |
| 00:43:44 | captain_proton | what is the view height referred to as? i thought it was viewHeight but i didn't get anything on my grep |
| 00:49:25 | BZFlag | viewHeight is gone now. |
| 00:49:42 | BZFlag | viewheight == height so just use height. |
| 00:49:44 | captain_proton | thats what i thought |
| 00:52:33 | captain_proton | well it seems its still there in some form or fashion |
| 00:53:31 | captain_proton | seems we can get rid of the MainWindow::panelRatio stuff? |
| 00:54:54 | BZFlag | ah. found it.. |
| 00:56:59 | BZFlag | fixed. |
| 00:58:47 | BZFlag | good point on panelratio, removing. |
| 01:00:33 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:00:37 | captain_proton | this is gonna be a big release |
| 01:00:41 | captain_proton | long changelog |
| 01:02:19 | BZFlag | yep |
| 01:03:28 | captain_proton | i like the small fonts on the control panel |
| 01:05:26 | captain_proton | is there a way to close a branch in CVS? |
| 01:05:33 | captain_proton | as in don't allow any more commits? |
| 01:06:42 | BZFlag | not really. I could just remove all developers from the list. ;-) |
| 01:06:44 | | taD_: huh? |
| 01:06:44 | taD_ | ibot cow |
| 01:06:49 | | thanks taD_ :) |
| 01:06:49 | taD_ | ibot botsnack |
| 01:06:52 | BZFlag | just kidding. |
| 01:06:55 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 01:06:55 | taD_ | ibot botsmack |
| 01:07:06 | captain_proton | haha |
| 01:07:11 | taD_ | :P |
| 01:07:13 | BZFlag | actually I will stamp a tag on the release when it is ready. |
| 01:07:21 | taD_ | hmm |
| 01:07:27 | taD_ | how soon is e6 coming out? |
| 01:07:52 | taD_ | :? |
| 01:08:06 | captain_proton | taD_: soon |
| 01:08:18 | taD_ | um |
| 01:08:20 | taD_ | hmm |
| 01:08:34 | taD_ | very soon, or very very soon? |
| 01:08:37 | taD_ | hehe |
| 01:08:47 | captain_proton | taD_: start holding your breath |
| 01:08:56 | taD_ | um |
| 01:08:58 | taD_ | sure |
| 01:09:06 | taD_ | is turning blue... |
| 01:09:09 | captain_proton | BZFlag: what of radar? |
| 01:10:42 | captain_proton | looks like Chestal didn't commit his current stuff |
| 01:10:51 | BZFlag | have not started on the latest patch yet. |
| 01:17:55 | captain_proton | whoops @ sushi |
| 01:20:15 | jacques | mmmm, sushi |
| 01:28:44 | captain_proton | licks the ChangeLog |
| 01:39:23 | taD_ | ugh |
| 01:40:55 | taD_ | I like the sushi |
| 01:40:55 | taD_ | ‘Cause it’s never touched a frying pan |
| 01:45:04 | taD_ | hmm |
| 01:45:14 | taD_ | are the sounds playing too fast in bzflag? |
| 01:45:37 | taD_ | I was playing the wav files and its much slower sounding |
| 01:50:50 | captain_proton | taD_: no |
| 01:51:07 | taD_ | hmm |
| 01:51:08 | captain_proton | taD_: the files are 22KHz audio. most wav files play at 44.1 KHz |
| 01:51:14 | taD_ | oh |
| 01:51:30 | taD_ | can I change the sound files to 22KHz? |
| 01:51:39 | taD_ | and have it play right? |
| 01:51:57 | taD_ | likes editing the RGB files :-) |
| 01:52:09 | BZFlag | looks like some files are 11k mono and those do play to fast on linux |
| 01:52:17 | taD_ | hmm |
| 01:52:28 | taD_ | But I am on a fast windows system |
| 01:52:58 | BZFlag | jump land killteam lock missle phaontom are all played double speed. |
| 01:53:14 | taD_ | hmm |
| 01:53:22 | taD_ | is there anyway to fix it? |
| 01:54:02 | taD_ | hmmm |
| 01:54:18 | BZFlag | resample them or fix the code. |
| 01:54:26 | taD_ | hmm |
| 01:54:26 | taD_ | ok |
| 01:54:28 | captain_proton | better to resample |
| 01:54:32 | taD_ | hehe |
| 01:54:37 | captain_proton | man sox |
| 01:54:48 | taD_ | I will resample them and see how it sounds... |
| 01:54:51 | taD_ | :P |
| 01:54:59 | taD_ | uses windowz |
| 01:58:01 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 01:58:20 | captain_proton | BZFlag: how might i retrieve the IP that an interface is bound on? |
| 01:58:58 | taD_ | oops |
| 01:59:02 | taD_ | broke the sound.... |
| 01:59:04 | taD_ | hmm |
| 01:59:05 | taD_ | brb |
| 02:03:55 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 11:00:44) |
| 02:04:27 | BZFlag | does observer work for you? |
| 02:04:52 | captain_proton | hang on lemme check |
| 02:04:59 | captain_proton | (cvs upping) |
| 02:05:43 | captain_proton | yup, works fine |
| 02:05:49 | captain_proton | one little change i want to make though |
| 02:09:31 | taD_ | hmm |
| 02:09:46 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i don't really want to check out everything under my sf name so here's the change: |
| 02:10:01 | captain_proton | src/bzflag/playing.cxx:3974 |
| 02:10:04 | captain_proton | change 2 lines to: |
| 02:10:10 | captain_proton | if (roamPos[2] < MuzzleHeight) |
| 02:10:10 | captain_proton | roamPos[2] = MuzzleHeight; |
| 02:10:27 | taD_ | does the wav have to be a bit rate? |
| 02:11:21 | taD_ | PCM? |
| 02:11:28 | taD_ | anykind of format? |
| 02:12:00 | taD_ | GSM? |
| 02:12:03 | taD_ | u-law? |
| 02:12:09 | BZFlag | taD_: best to use the formats that are there. |
| 02:12:17 | taD_ | hmm |
| 02:12:31 | taD_ | hehe |
| 02:12:45 | taD_ | guess I have to look and one to see |
| 02:13:04 | taD_ | er |
| 02:13:15 | taD_ | I change the KHz to 22 or 44? |
| 02:14:00 | BZFlag | captain_proton: you on win or lin? |
| 02:15:38 | captain_proton | BZFlag: lin |
| 02:15:49 | captain_proton | taD_: KHz should be 22.05 |
| 02:16:36 | taD_ | hmm |
| 02:16:38 | taD_ | nope |
| 02:16:41 | taD_ | still no sound |
| 02:17:58 | BZFlag | captain_proton: connect to a server with no players as an observer |
| 02:19:36 | captain_proton | ok - worked fine |
| 02:20:23 | BZFlag | yeah? segfaults here on line 4105 of playing.cxx |
| 02:21:12 | BZFlag | well, off to home. |
| 02:32:14 | | SANTA CLAUS comes down a FIRE ESCAPE wearing bright blue LEG WARMERS ... He scrubs the POPE with a mild soap or detergent for 15 minutes, starring JANE FONDA!! |
| 02:32:14 | taD_ | ibot yow |
| 02:32:27 | | You are nothing but a wayward enema-bucketful of hasty-witted bug spit. |
| 02:32:27 | taD_ | ibot insult me |
| 02:32:33 | | Once, there was NO fun ... This was before MENU planning, FASHION statements or NAUTILUS equipment ... Then, in 1985 ... FUN was completely encoded in this tiny MICROCHIP ... It contain 14,768 vaguely amusing SIT-COM pilots!! We had to wait FOUR BILLION years but we finally got JERRY LEWIS, MTV and a large selection of creme-filled snack cakes! |
| 02:32:33 | taD_ | ibot yow |
| 03:31:07 | goofey | bzflag is now 2nd on the linux game tome |
| 03:31:37 | captain_proton | niiice =) |
| 03:32:17 | goofey | yeah - it deserves it |
| 03:36:47 | captain_proton | now we just need 31 more votes |
| 03:37:55 | goofey | cool |
| 03:38:09 | goofey | captain_proton: what's you fav online bz server? |
| 03:38:16 | captain_proton | depends |
| 03:38:19 | goofey | ie - fav map? |
| 03:38:22 | goofey | yeah? |
| 03:38:26 | goofey | on what? |
| 03:38:29 | captain_proton | i like 2-player ctf & decks equally |
| 03:38:38 | captain_proton | depends whos playing |
| 03:39:01 | captain_proton | there are certain players that are just a blast to dogfight on the decks |
| 03:39:09 | goofey | I bet |
| 03:39:30 | goofey | any non-standard maps you especially like? |
| 03:39:45 | goofey | I've been playing astercity.net - huga map |
| 03:39:50 | goofey | huge |
| 03:40:10 | captain_proton | all maps are the same size |
| 03:40:17 | captain_proton | some just feel bigger than others |
| 03:40:31 | captain_proton | and i'm not quite sure what you mean by 'non-standard' |
| 03:40:46 | goofey | user-made rather than computer generated |
| 03:40:53 | goofey | you know, multi level |
| 03:41:07 | goofey | buildings 10 times normal size |
| 03:41:11 | captain_proton | by that definition decks is non standard |
| 03:41:29 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:41:39 | goofey | oh, I think I misunderstood what you meant by decks |
| 03:41:47 | goofey | what's a good decks server |
| 03:41:49 | captain_proton | twintowers is good, ballpark is fun (-lots- of little tricks)... |
| 03:41:53 | captain_proton | there's only one up |
| 03:41:59 | captain_proton | (mine) |
| 03:42:03 | captain_proton | babylonia.flatirons.org:5155 |
| 03:42:15 | goofey | sweet - I'll check it out |
| 03:46:53 | goofey | it's monstrous! |
| 03:47:55 | goofey | thinks that's a good thing |
| 04:03:52 | iLLf8d | false alarm season premiere of farscape starting in one hour! |
| 04:10:50 | captain_proton | haha iLL_afk |
| 04:11:01 | Ubik | . |
| 04:19:46 | captain_proton | commits |
| 04:37:51 | goofey | captain_proton: what's the name of the current map at babylonia? |
| 04:58:16 | captain_proton | goofey: decks |
| 04:59:04 | goofey | and I find twintowers and ballpark on another server? |
| 04:59:20 | captain_proton | not likely |
| 04:59:43 | goofey | oh, do you cycle them on your server? |
| 04:59:52 | captain_proton | somewhat |
| 04:59:58 | captain_proton | the majority of the time its running decks |
| 05:00:10 | goofey | okay - well. it's a great map |
| 05:31:19 | Ubik | any knows mr. apathy website? |
| 05:33:48 | captain_proton | www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html |
| 05:34:07 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i fixed that segfault - i already had accounted for that situation in the 1.8 roaming code |
| 06:01:10 | iLL_afk | lo |
| 06:16:32 | BZFlag | captain_proton: where is the fix? it still happens for me. |
| 06:17:43 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i committed it =| |
| 06:18:59 | MrApathyCream | fps is in the wrong place vertical (unless you meant it there) |
| 06:19:02 | BZFlag | I updated, rebuild, connected to one:5050 and segfaulted. |
| 06:19:28 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:19:32 | captain_proton | you segfault immediately? |
| 06:19:36 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: I noticed, but it didn't bug me enough to move it. |
| 06:19:41 | BZFlag | captain_proton: yes |
| 06:20:05 | captain_proton | BZFlag: check if roamView is initialized - it ought to start out = roamViewFree |
| 06:20:16 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: also compose is down at the bottom. can't decide if I like that or not. |
| 06:20:46 | MrApathyCream | multi-line flag help is wrong too |
| 06:21:39 | MrApathyCream | i like compose |
| 06:23:07 | BZFlag | captain_proton: player == null so player[] segfaults. |
| 06:23:26 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: flaghelp is wrong? explain? |
| 06:23:37 | captain_proton | BZFlag: but if roamView = roamViewFree it shouldn't enter that block of code |
| 06:23:39 | BZFlag | just that it bleeds into msg? |
| 06:24:54 | BZFlag | line 4129 |
| 06:26:02 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 06:26:05 | captain_proton | goes to fix up |
| 06:26:34 | captain_proton | BZFlag: reorder that if |
| 06:26:39 | captain_proton | if ((roamView != roamViewFree) && player[roamTrackTank]) { |
| 06:28:21 | BZFlag | did. ;-) |
| 06:28:34 | captain_proton | work now? |
| 06:28:55 | BZFlag | now we die on: line 4187 cause MyTank is null. |
| 06:29:24 | captain_proton | encase that in an if(myTank) |
| 06:29:43 | captain_proton | Chestal's code steenks |
| 06:30:39 | BZFlag | yep, just did that too. |
| 06:30:46 | BZFlag | sheesh I feel like rcam |
| 06:30:56 | captain_proton | teehee |
| 06:31:20 | BZFlag | works now. |
| 06:31:23 | captain_proton | coo' |
| 06:31:33 | captain_proton | the stuff i added earlier prevents other segfaults ;) |
| 06:38:08 | BZFlag | sweet. roaming is kewel |
| 06:38:15 | captain_proton | yup |
| 06:38:33 | captain_proton | only improvement i can think of is to have the follow mode lag behind a little on turns |
| 06:39:04 | BZFlag | yeah, but then you'd want to avoid building etc. |
| 06:40:29 | BZFlag | I'd like to see the playername be back in the upper left and have "Tracking" in the middle with the flag name on the right. |
| 06:43:18 | captain_proton | doesn't really matter about buildings - since if your view is inside you don't see it |
| 06:48:26 | BZFlag | when roaming it looks like sounds are still relative to the center? |
| 06:48:49 | captain_proton | shouldn't be |
| 06:48:56 | BZFlag | if the player in below a "floor" you see the floor. |
| 06:49:09 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 06:49:12 | captain_proton | rephrase that last one |
| 06:49:17 | BZFlag | wanna test on one with me? want to be the observer or the player? |
| 06:50:05 | BZFlag | if you are following and the player is below a thin platform, you could be above it so the floor will hide the player. |
| 06:50:45 | BZFlag | anyway test sound with me? |
| 06:51:23 | BZFlag | hello? |
| 06:51:25 | captain_proton | yeah ok |
| 06:51:29 | captain_proton | sry multitasking |
| 06:51:32 | captain_proton | i'll observe |
| 06:51:45 | BZFlag | ok cya there. |
| 06:52:58 | captain_proton | hmm i can't get in |
| 06:53:04 | captain_proton | and i just realized that xine has my dsp open |
| 06:54:52 | MrApathyCream | whatya need? |
| 06:55:17 | captain_proton | go join riker on one as an observer |
| 06:55:24 | captain_proton | test if the sound reciever moves with the observer |
| 06:56:56 | MrApathyCream | can't download world |
| 06:57:30 | BZFlag | hello? |
| 06:57:31 | captain_proton | same error i was getting |
| 06:57:40 | BZFlag | hmm... try again now? |
| 06:58:02 | captain_proton | apathy better go - my dsp is in use |
| 06:58:15 | MrApathyCream | 'kay |
| 06:59:10 | MrApathyCream | i'm in, no ones here |
| 07:00:06 | MrApathyCream | one:5050? |
| 07:00:34 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, can't roam without players, seems silly |
| 07:01:07 | captain_proton | can't roam without players? |
| 07:01:36 | BZFlag | k. I restarted xmission. try there. |
| 07:02:54 | MrApathyCream | game is full |
| 07:03:36 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: nope |
| 07:03:53 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: how so? |
| 07:03:54 | BZFlag | on xmission? what is going on? |
| 07:04:39 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: ok, i mean f-keys |
| 07:05:07 | BZFlag | join xmission? |
| 07:05:15 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: connection failed: Game is full |
| 07:05:28 | captain_proton | BZFlag: committed the fixes? |
| 07:05:43 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you can't follow a tank if there isn't a tank to follow |
| 07:06:08 | MrApathyCream | I spose, just disconcerting not to jump through the options |
| 07:06:27 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: jumping through the options means a segfault on linux |
| 07:06:37 | BZFlag | yeah, committed. someone try to join xmission. =( |
| 07:07:00 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: i can join as a NON-observer |
| 07:11:06 | BZFlag | ahh no -mo. fixes. try now. |
| 07:14:30 | BZFlag | hello? |
| 07:14:43 | BZFlag | Someone try to join xmission. =( |
| 07:14:54 | captain_proton | i'm about 6 minutes or so away from the end of this movie |
| 07:15:04 | MrApathyCream | be there in a sec |
| 07:15:04 | BZFlag | he dies in the end. |
| 07:15:29 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:15:59 | vogon_jeltz | OMGLAOROFL. |
| 07:16:06 | vogon_jeltz | I think I found a bug in Mozilla. |
| 07:16:14 | captain_proton | OMG NO WYA |
| 07:16:41 | vogon_jeltz | normal users can control any Mozilla sessions root has open with -remote. |
| 07:17:16 | vogon_jeltz | granted, root shouldn't be running Web browsers, but 99.44% of admins are idiots. |
| 07:18:20 | captain_proton | care to explain why -you- were running mozilla as root? |
| 07:18:27 | vogon_jeltz | to test this out. |
| 07:21:29 | vogon_jeltz | this means that if you can pull your sysadmin away from teh monitar, you can move him from www.mozdev.org to a faked-up copy with malicious code. |
| 07:24:18 | vogon_jeltz | and if you have it download software and he clicks on the OK button on the Software Installation dialog, then you have semi-arbitrary code running with root privileges. |
| 07:25:28 | captain_proton | ahh, my systerm, ever the cynic |
| 07:25:29 | vogon_jeltz | which includes, if I'm not mistaken, the ability to call external programs. |
| 07:25:45 | captain_proton | "stop taking all this time stopping bullets and everything. ANSWER THE FREAKING PHONE!" |
| 07:28:30 | captain_proton | we can't allow all that arbitrary code |
| 07:33:06 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: ? |
| 07:33:57 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: ? |
| 07:34:06 | | no idea, vogon_jeltz |
| 07:34:06 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: ? |
| 07:35:13 | BZFlag | k, need a test player again. |
| 07:35:28 | MrApathyCream | xmission? |
| 07:38:08 | BZFlag | sweet. committing. |
| 07:40:17 | Ubik | . |
| 07:40:59 | BZFlag | what did you do to flag help? |
| 07:41:16 | MrApathyCream | centered, and multiline doesn't write on top of the targetting box |
| 07:41:46 | MrApathyCream | I think we should get rid of headingFont and use minorFont instead |
| 07:41:57 | MrApathyCream | / headingFont = TextureFont::getTextureFont(TextureFont::Fixed, True); |
| 07:41:58 | MrApathyCream | headingFont = minorFont; |
| 07:42:07 | MrApathyCream | it's readable that way |
| 07:42:40 | captain_proton | it also takes up a lot of my playing area that way =| |
| 07:43:13 | Ubik | any 1.5 which shows messages on top???????? |
| 07:43:14 | MrApathyCream | i literally can't read it. it's of no use |
| 07:43:55 | MrApathyCream | 1152x864 |
| 07:44:03 | MrApathyCream | 15" |
| 07:44:21 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i believe it does a / 64.0f - you can try adjusting that to change the size |
| 07:45:44 | BZFlag | well, I'm not going to rework the fonts tonight. |
| 07:45:57 | BZFlag | They clearly need help though. |
| 07:46:15 | MrApathyCream | minorFont looks good to me. but we can wait |
| 07:46:19 | BZFlag | I'd like the sizing to be able to select different font images. |
| 07:46:39 | BZFlag | so things scale better. |
| 07:46:52 | BZFlag | personally I'd kill the italic fonts too. |
| 07:47:32 | BZFlag | must sleep. thanx for all the work! |
| 07:47:42 | MrApathyCream | cu |
| 07:48:26 | Ubik | any 1.5 which shows messages on top???????? |
| 07:48:30 | Ubik | any there????? |
| 07:49:03 | MrApathyCream | what's the question? |
| 07:49:23 | Ubik | i cannot see my messages on top of screen |
| 07:49:39 | Ubik | but still can see others |
| 07:49:58 | MrApathyCream | yeah, i think cappy did that |
| 07:50:03 | captain_proton | not me |
| 07:50:08 | MrApathyCream | no? |
| 07:50:23 | MrApathyCream | hmmm maybe chestal then |
| 07:51:24 | MrApathyCream | i would think we'd want that, eh, cappy? |
| 07:51:32 | captain_proton | is it necessary? |
| 07:51:37 | captain_proton | you know what you said |
| 07:51:59 | MrApathyCream | what i say? |
| 07:53:24 | MrApathyCream | radar is MUCH better btw (opacity) |
| 07:57:22 | Ubik | yep but flags are too big in zoom |
| 07:57:47 | Ubik | and....messages question is really annoyng |
| 07:58:29 | Ubik | bythe way any ever tought of another ...lower jumping button??? |
| 07:59:01 | MrApathyCream | agreed flags are too big |
| 07:59:21 | MrApathyCream | lower jumping: easily doable, and version safe |
| 07:59:52 | captain_proton | not necessarily a good thing however |
| 08:00:51 | captain_proton | http://dot.kde.org/990520201/990580133/1008045389/ <-- /me lubs this |
| 08:02:49 | MrApathyCream | roflmao |
| 08:03:02 | MrApathyCream | 2/2/2! |
| 08:03:19 | captain_proton | a?? MrApathyCream! i'm surprised at you, using that kind of language |
| 08:03:33 | captain_proton | nobody your age should go around saying they're lauging their a off |
| 08:03:41 | MrApathyCream | roflmto |
| 08:03:50 | MrApathyCream | tushy |
| 08:03:52 | MrApathyCream | mea culpa |
| 08:06:00 | captain_proton | i just wish rcam.ws still worked =( |
| 08:16:08 | | 2:19am |
| 08:16:08 | MrApathyCream | ibot, cappy_time? |
| 08:17:37 | captain_proton | http://www.lanparty.com/solgames/orlando/aug2gallery/sol_0191.jpg <-- i think this is him |
| 08:20:47 | MrApathyCream | ?:) |
| 08:25:37 | captain_proton | on the page it was linked from, the caption was "what in the world did they do to RCAM?" and its in orlando, fl |
| 08:25:37 | Ubik | hey cap why not a smaller jump |
| 08:25:52 | Ubik | would be great |
| 08:26:10 | Ubik | so 1 wont be soot without mercy during flight |
| 08:26:22 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: you need to see a shrink |
| 08:26:50 | MrApathyCream | RCAM fixation |
| 08:26:54 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 08:27:02 | captain_proton | because the restriction of the jump is a part of gameplay |
| 08:27:15 | captain_proton | you can always be sure they'll jump as high as you |
| 08:27:36 | MrApathyCream | i prefer my double jump patch with the jump flag, but no one else seems to like it |
| 08:29:22 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i'm bored, and googling RCAM helps with that |
| 08:29:59 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 08:30:43 | MrApathyCream | FROM EZBOARD: |
| 08:30:47 | MrApathyCream | Ubik, the unethical |
| 08:30:47 | MrApathyCream | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 08:30:47 | MrApathyCream | Please watch out for Ubik. I played against him around midnight on Friday night/Saturday morning on the turkey.moongroup.com (madcity free-for all server). |
| 08:30:47 | MrApathyCream | He considers pausing a viable strategy when cornered. |
| 08:30:49 | MrApathyCream | He also likes to switch to *your* team and start teammate killing you when he feels his ego is bruised. |
| 08:30:53 | MrApathyCream | What a loser. |
| 08:31:00 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 08:33:28 | akira_ | moinsen |
| 08:34:12 | akira_ | und cu |
| 08:55:27 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 08:57:15 | MrApathyCream | isn't it time for you to go to bed, cappy? |
| 08:57:36 | captain_proton | getting there |
| 08:59:56 | captain_proton | is realizing how much he misses RCAM |
| 09:00:02 | captain_proton | he made the channel -interesting- |
| 09:01:14 | MrApathyCream | offers captain_proton a hanky |
| 09:03:42 | MrApathyCream | hey cappy, you fix linux-modem? |
| 09:03:48 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, he did. |
| 09:03:52 | vogon_jeltz | wvdial was being lame. |
| 09:06:29 | captain_proton | shhhh |
| 09:06:40 | captain_proton | next you know he'll be bugging me about md5 |
| 09:15:39 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 10:11:26 | pnm | morning all |
| 10:12:01 | pnm | anyone happen to know the cvs command to download the latest 1.7 source? |
| 10:29:37 | ritchie_ | yes |
| 10:29:52 | ritchie_ | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 10:30:11 | pnm | wicked |
| 10:30:28 | ritchie_ | i dont like the team colours around |
| 10:30:30 | pnm | many thanx |
| 10:30:34 | ritchie_ | the status boxes though |
| 10:30:39 | ritchie_ | but other than that its v good |
| 10:30:44 | ritchie_ | no more nasty control panel |
| 11:06:30 | iLLf8d | http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-933853.html |
| 11:39:59 | iLLf8d | lo |
| 11:53:46 | iLLf8d | lo quol |
| 11:55:04 | Quol | hey - how r ya?? |
| 11:55:11 | Quol | nsorry was away for a sec :) |
| 11:55:35 | Quol | I am pressing "n" to send a message... |
| 11:55:46 | Quol | wonder where I got that from =:) |
| 11:56:20 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 11:56:21 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 11:56:29 | iLLf8d | quol which platform are you on? |
| 11:56:37 | iLLf8d | have you checked out the latest *nix cvs |
| 11:58:15 | Quol | Well - the only PC that I can play on is my wife's XP.... |
| 11:58:27 | Quol | nso I haven't checked out the latest *nix yet :( |
| 11:58:44 | Quol | do you know if 1.8 is available on Intel yet?? |
| 11:59:35 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 11:59:37 | iLLf8d | dunno |
| 11:59:41 | iLLf8d | ask apathy |
| 11:59:45 | iLLf8d | he may know |
| 12:00:09 | pnm | http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/1.8/bzfinst.exe |
| 12:00:09 | ritchie_ | ill |
| 12:00:09 | Quol | cool....is that what you where wondering about? |
| 12:00:10 | ritchie_ | compile |
| 12:00:13 | ritchie_ | 1.8 for you |
| 12:00:24 | ritchie_ | ill compile it |
| 12:00:29 | ritchie_ | the installer is broken |
| 12:00:38 | pnm | ah, k |
| 12:00:47 | Quol | I can compile also ritchie as I have VS 6 and .NET access, but thanks |
| 12:00:52 | ritchie_ | ok |
| 12:00:57 | ritchie_ | soz |
| 12:01:12 | ritchie_ | it works on my machine |
| 12:01:13 | Quol | every time I try to compile latest source though I have been having all sorts of issues... |
| 12:01:22 | ritchie_ | ^^ |
| 12:01:54 | Quol | I can't find the bzfls project so it always fails there.... |
| 12:02:03 | ritchie_ | hmm |
| 12:02:08 | ritchie_ | why do you wnat to compile bzfls? |
| 12:02:09 | Quol | and some includes are not in the right paths etc etc |
| 12:02:12 | ritchie_ | well |
| 12:02:14 | ritchie_ | i jsut go |
| 12:02:25 | ritchie_ | Build > set active configuration |
| 12:02:31 | ritchie_ | then select bzflag win32 release |
| 12:02:34 | ritchie_ | then go build |
| 12:02:37 | ritchie_ | and it works fine |
| 12:02:49 | Quol | hmmmm - I will try again.. |
| 12:02:52 | ritchie_ | anyone seen latest 1.7 with new HUD? i like it except you cant read scoreboard so easily + having team colours for the border of the radar/messages boxes looks tack |
| 12:02:59 | Quol | nhaven't tried in a couple of months or so... |
| 12:03:08 | ritchie_ | ahah |
| 12:03:29 | Quol | there I go pressing N to talk again :) |
| 12:04:15 | ritchie_ | mmm |
| 12:04:21 | Quol | is the latest 1.7 in CVS? |
| 12:04:48 | ritchie_ | yes |
| 12:04:51 | ritchie_ | you have to do |
| 12:04:57 | ritchie_ | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 12:05:00 | ritchie_ | to get 1.7 |
| 12:05:53 | Quol | I will check it out then....I use winCVS so I can just query for the revisions / project then check out the appropiate one... |
| 12:06:01 | ritchie_ | ah ok |
| 12:06:08 | ritchie_ | i just use cvs |
| 12:06:10 | ritchie_ | (for window) |
| 12:06:21 | ritchie_ | am compiling latest 1.8 atm |
| 12:06:23 | Quol | have you used winCVS - pretty nice GUI front end to CVS... |
| 12:06:31 | ritchie_ | no |
| 12:06:36 | ritchie_ | i cant really be bothered ;_0 |
| 12:06:43 | ritchie_ | much easier to type in a dos prompt |
| 12:06:50 | Quol | :) |
| 12:06:52 | ritchie_ | but ill give it a TRY |
| 12:06:54 | ritchie_ | try * |
| 12:07:39 | Quol | I am in the process if upgrading by OpenBSD firewall to 3.1 - any one use that version yet?? |
| 12:07:47 | Quol | just wondering :( |
| 12:07:50 | Quol | oops :) |
| 12:18:51 | Quol | cu all - have to go |
| 13:06:43 | | thanks dinah :) |
| 13:06:43 | dinah | ibot: botsnack |
| 13:06:52 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 13:06:52 | taD_ | ibot botsmack |
| 13:07:13 | dinah | hey taD? |
| 13:07:20 | taD_ | yo |
| 13:07:27 | taD_ | is busy |
| 13:07:47 | dinah | wouldnt happen to know of a linux driver for Radeon Ve would you? |
| 13:11:26 | taD_ | nope |
| 13:11:33 | dinah | oh rott |
| 13:11:57 | dinah | well, thanks anyway... |
| 13:48:20 | ritchie_ | hi |
| 13:48:21 | ritchie_ | right |
| 13:48:22 | [TeA|TrEE] | looky looky |
| 13:48:23 | [TeA|TrEE] | :) |
| 13:48:59 | [TeA|TrEE] | have you got VNC ?? |
| 13:49:04 | ritchie_ | VNC |
| 13:49:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | TightVNC |
| 13:49:14 | ritchie_ | no |
| 13:49:15 | ritchie_ | sorry |
| 13:49:18 | ritchie_ | just go |
| 13:49:23 | ritchie_ | start run notepad |
| 13:49:26 | ritchie_ | then go file open |
| 13:49:33 | [TeA|TrEE] | hiow |
| 13:49:37 | ritchie_ | change "Files of type" |
| 13:49:39 | ritchie_ | to all files |
| 13:49:42 | ritchie_ | then browse |
| 13:49:43 | ritchie_ | and find |
| 13:49:48 | ritchie_ | c:\my documents\bzflag.bzc |
| 13:49:51 | ritchie_ | done that? |
| 13:50:00 | [TeA|TrEE] | AFK |
| 13:50:03 | [TeA|TrEE] | 2 min |
| 14:34:27 | [TeA|TrEE] | Qustion |
| 14:34:38 | [TeA|TrEE] | somebody there ? |
| 14:41:13 | Chestal | waah, CVS broken again |
| 14:42:13 | Chestal | hmm, cvs up behaves strange |
| 14:42:23 | Chestal | updated additional files on second call? |
| 14:46:38 | ritchie_ | chestal : had a chance to look at patches? |
| 14:46:41 | ritchie_ | 1.8 is broken atm |
| 14:46:43 | ritchie_ | i cant |
| 14:46:50 | ritchie_ | compile |
| 14:50:33 | Chestal | ritchie: not really, I'm currently more concerned about the client changes |
| 14:50:51 | Chestal | I cannot play with the new HUD,I want to have it optional |
| 14:50:51 | ritchie_ | ok |
| 14:50:56 | Chestal | or I will never be using e6 |
| 14:50:59 | ritchie_ | right |
| 14:51:02 | ritchie_ | yes |
| 14:51:06 | ritchie_ | one suggestion for new hud |
| 14:51:07 | Chestal | did you try current CVS? |
| 14:51:15 | ritchie_ | for 1.8 yes |
| 14:51:21 | Chestal | no, it's about 1.7 |
| 14:51:24 | ritchie_ | one suggestion for new hud is that the coloured border for teams |
| 14:51:27 | Chestal | 1.8 is of no interest righ tnow |
| 14:51:29 | ritchie_ | shoudl be scrapped |
| 14:51:32 | ritchie_ | it looks really tacky |
| 14:51:36 | ritchie_ | having a purple border |
| 14:51:40 | Chestal | because it will undergho huge changesa anyway |
| 14:51:44 | ritchie_ | a grey/white border would be much better |
| 14:51:55 | ritchie_ | hud scoreboard == too small |
| 14:52:28 | Chestal | the border is in your team colour |
| 14:52:35 | Chestal | yes, I also think that the former font was better |
| 14:52:50 | ritchie_ | i dont like the border in your team colour |
| 14:52:52 | ritchie_ | it looks rubbish |
| 14:52:58 | ritchie_ | :-) |
| 14:53:15 | ritchie_ | you shoudl be able to change font of scoreboard to suit your resolution |
| 14:53:16 | MrApathyCream | richie_ it's easy to forget what color you are without it |
| 14:53:19 | Chestal | my main concern is my framerate, it's just too low with new version |
| 14:53:27 | ritchie_ | right |
| 14:53:34 | ritchie_ | apathy: but it just looks wrong |
| 14:53:36 | MrApathyCream | i agree with font size |
| 14:53:39 | ritchie_ | the pink |
| 14:53:41 | ritchie_ | or purple |
| 14:53:44 | Chestal | besided, I jsut do not liek any changes to the interface, it was fine as it was |
| 14:53:46 | ritchie_ | is so disgusting |
| 14:53:50 | ritchie_ | well |
| 14:53:56 | ritchie_ | i think the new message box/rdar |
| 14:53:57 | Chestal | now the HUD square is bigger, it's moved to the bottom etc. |
| 14:53:58 | ritchie_ | is much better |
| 14:54:21 | MrApathyCream | i think the opacity on the message box has to be raised to that of the radar box |
| 14:54:42 | Chestal | I want it optional |
| 14:54:48 | ritchie_ | maybe |
| 14:54:53 | ritchie_ | font size should be changed |
| 14:55:01 | ritchie_ | so that it suits the resolution |
| 14:55:06 | MrApathyCream | ritchie_: yup |
| 14:55:08 | ritchie_ | i cant see a thing on 1024x768 |
| 14:55:25 | MrApathyCream | i run 1152x864 on 15" it's microscopic |
| 14:55:44 | ritchie_ | heh |
| 14:55:47 | ritchie_ | irun |
| 14:55:58 | ritchie_ | 1024x768 on 17" nd its very small |
| 14:56:04 | ritchie_ | especially if you are looking into |
| 14:56:07 | MrApathyCream | i know tim is planning on working on font scaling |
| 14:56:08 | ritchie_ | a light patch |
| 14:56:22 | Chestal | I think I'll not be the only one who dislikes the new HUD |
| 14:56:30 | Chestal | if we do not make it optional, some peopel might not upgrade |
| 14:56:31 | MrApathyCream | but the most vocal :) |
| 14:56:43 | MrApathyCream | i knew you wouldn't like it |
| 14:56:59 | Chestal | well, I'm in contact with several peopel in the bzflag community which I think are quite important |
| 14:57:02 | MrApathyCream | i argued to cappy and tim to make it optional |
| 14:57:02 | ritchie_ | thats a prob too - to see tanks a long way away you need it to be light but you cant read the score against a light-sky background |
| 14:57:11 | Chestal | the code should reflect more what the community wants |
| 14:57:14 | [TeA|TrEE] | has somewone got msn messinger ??? |
| 14:57:32 | ritchie_ | thats a prob too - to see tanks a long way away you need it to be light but you cant read the score against a light-sky background - i cant think how to solve it |
| 14:57:42 | Chestal | my small (optional) radar changes have a hard time gettign in, and everybody I which tried them so far liked them |
| 14:57:51 | Chestal | but this is a major change and really needs to be optinal for the last 1.7 release |
| 14:57:52 | MrApathyCream | ritchie_: if the fonts are bigger thats not a problem |
| 14:57:59 | ritchie_ | spose |
| 14:58:01 | ritchie_ | even so |
| 14:58:05 | ritchie_ | a purple or green |
| 14:58:10 | ritchie_ | on the bkground is v hard to read |
| 14:58:18 | ritchie_ | also for ctf i only want to see team score |
| 14:58:20 | MrApathyCream | richie: what os? |
| 14:58:23 | ritchie_ | i might make a patch for that... |
| 14:58:29 | ritchie_ | win + linux |
| 14:59:04 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: i'd be happy with switchable options |
| 14:59:18 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: seems like tim is real anti 'more options' tho |
| 14:59:23 | Chestal | MAC: me, too. Would not have to be in the GUI even |
| 14:59:31 | Chestal | I'd be happy with config file option |
| 14:59:43 | Chestal | but they have to be documented, there already are lots of secret options |
| 15:00:05 | ritchie_ | ive sent a patch to chestal with pausing and unpausing for ctf games, hopefully itll get in the next version :-) if it does perhaps the client could be ptached to change status to paused ctf game and stop the countdown, i dunno |
| 15:00:59 | ritchie_ | yes - no more secret options like email.... - you could make a diff program which set all the settings for ease of use |
| 15:01:04 | Chestal | ricthie: I'm stil a bit skeptical that pausing/unpausign will work ok in practise, haven't though too much about it, though |
| 15:01:06 | MrApathyCream | ritchie_: try this in HudRenderer.cxx |
| 15:01:14 | MrApathyCream | comment out line 285 |
| 15:01:18 | MrApathyCream | / headingFont = TextureFont::getTextureFont(TextureFont::Fixed, True); |
| 15:01:18 | Chestal | the settings and the /commands just have to be documented |
| 15:01:21 | MrApathyCream | add |
| 15:01:29 | MrApathyCream | headingFont = minorFont; |
| 15:01:35 | MrApathyCream | see if fonts are more readable |
| 15:01:44 | ritchie_ | k' |
| 15:01:50 | MrApathyCream | sorry line 189 |
| 15:02:03 | ritchie_ | right |
| 15:02:11 | Chestal | MAC: the ban patch is yours? |
| 15:02:21 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 15:02:29 | MrApathyCream | most of it... you did some:) |
| 15:02:49 | Chestal | maybe /banlist should show expiration times |
| 15:02:50 | ritchie_ | compiling |
| 15:02:56 | MrApathyCream | prhaps |
| 15:02:57 | ritchie_ | with new |
| 15:02:59 | ritchie_ | stuff |
| 15:03:03 | ritchie_ | ie your line mac |
| 15:03:12 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 15:03:54 | ritchie_ | much better |
| 15:03:56 | ritchie_ | its useable |
| 15:03:59 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 15:04:27 | ritchie_ | chestal: the patches are very simple, you press pause it stops the countdown |
| 15:04:34 | ritchie_ | and when you type |
| 15:04:35 | ritchie_ | unpause |
| 15:04:38 | ritchie_ | it resets everyone |
| 15:04:50 | ritchie_ | and the clock has the right amount of time added to it |
| 15:05:01 | ritchie_ | when paused the server does not add points for any flag captures |
| 15:05:11 | ritchie_ | it can also be used if someone has a crash and needs to reboot |
| 15:05:12 | ritchie_ | or something |
| 15:05:17 | ritchie_ | you just pause the game |
| 15:05:24 | ritchie_ | ppl can play on all they like while its pause |
| 15:05:26 | ritchie_ | d |
| 15:05:33 | ritchie_ | but the flag scores stay the same |
| 15:05:34 | Chestal | yes, I just think that it's hard to find a suitable time to do it |
| 15:05:36 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: would be nice if hud was an abstract base class, and two versions derived from it |
| 15:05:47 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: rather than tons of ifdefs |
| 15:06:04 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: it's ugly enough |
| 15:06:06 | Chestal | MAC: well, actualyl, not the "HUD" has changed, but the whole Layout of the different GL canvases etc, and soem changes to the HUD |
| 15:06:16 | MrApathyCream | right |
| 15:06:21 | ritchie_ | chestal - when the flags arent moving |
| 15:06:27 | ritchie_ | just at the side you could do it |
| 15:06:44 | Chestal | ritchie_: it's still very problematic. One team might be in a far better situation at the time |
| 15:07:07 | ritchie_ | maybe you are right |
| 15:07:13 | Chestal | I see peopel wanting to lynch the referee :-) |
| 15:07:15 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: nutter unrelated thing... Would like to update flag pos in server when receiving Playerupdates |
| 15:07:36 | MrApathyCream | flag reverting on lag kick is really silly |
| 15:07:45 | Chestal | MAC: that would mean that server keeps track of player positions, it's possible but increases load on server |
| 15:07:53 | Chestal | MAC: I don't think we shoudl put this into 1.7 |
| 15:08:06 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: server doesn't need to keep track of player positions |
| 15:08:22 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: just on forwarding PlayerUpdates, updates flag poses of carried flags |
| 15:08:41 | ritchie_ | btw chestal |
| 15:08:45 | ritchie_ | b4 e6 |
| 15:08:47 | ritchie_ | youll need |
| 15:08:53 | Chestal | MAC: well, but it has to parse the palyerupdate messages. It just forwards them righ tnow |
| 15:08:55 | ritchie_ | to sort out the observer bug |
| 15:09:04 | Chestal | which observer bug? |
| 15:09:04 | ritchie_ | which happens when someone you are following leaves |
| 15:09:05 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: ah, true |
| 15:09:19 | Chestal | what happens, when someone leaves you're tracking? |
| 15:09:44 | ritchie_ | it messes up - either it follows another observer |
| 15:09:50 | ritchie_ | or several times it has crashde for me |
| 15:09:54 | Chestal | MAC: it's annoying when the flag moves to an old plays on kick, but it's still better than returning it to base |
| 15:09:57 | ritchie_ | i think when someone leaves |
| 15:10:03 | ritchie_ | the client should automatically |
| 15:10:12 | ritchie_ | go to the next person on the list |
| 15:10:16 | Chestal | crashed like client segfaulting? |
| 15:10:35 | ritchie_ | mmm |
| 15:10:49 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: Saw sendPlayerUpdate thought it happened always, erg |
| 15:11:27 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: agreed better than going to base or center |
| 15:11:31 | Chestal | MAC: in theory it should never happen, only happens when client doesn't send MsgDropFlag before leaving |
| 15:12:07 | Chestal | MAC: this happens when a client crashes or it can happen when a tank has huge lag, somethign with the msg order |
| 15:12:24 | Chestal | but in the latter case, the flag usually only moves one tank length or so |
| 15:12:33 | MrApathyCream | lag kick |
| 15:12:42 | MrApathyCream | maybe could fix that one case |
| 15:13:17 | Chestal | hmm, I guess kicking works the hard way |
| 15:13:25 | Chestal | so client has no way to send dropmsg |
| 15:13:32 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 15:14:07 | Chestal | when everyone uses 1.7e6, laggy palyers will be kicked much faster anyway |
| 15:14:16 | Chestal | because they wil get a lag measurement every 10s |
| 15:14:25 | MrApathyCream | hopefully fewer laggies :) |
| 15:14:55 | MrApathyCream | we need to put a carrot in e6 to get everyone to upgrade quickly... tired of seeing e1's out there |
| 15:15:08 | Chestal | hmm, haven't seen an e1 for months |
| 15:15:12 | Chestal | some e2 though |
| 15:15:16 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 15:15:26 | MrApathyCream | fx3 |
| 15:15:32 | Chestal | yes, rarely |
| 15:16:05 | Chestal | if we want everyone to upgrade, we will have to put binaries out for the major platforms quick |
| 15:16:24 | MrApathyCream | are there developers to cover all the platforms? |
| 15:16:33 | Chestal | hmm, I don't know |
| 15:16:37 | MrApathyCream | or can you do that on sf compile farms? |
| 15:16:51 | MrApathyCream | never played with the farms |
| 15:17:04 | Chestal | we need at least win32, debian, RPM (redhat, suse), irix and mac os x |
| 15:17:08 | Chestal | freebsd would also be good |
| 15:17:42 | [TeA|TrEE] | lalalalala |
| 15:18:04 | [TeA|TrEE] | can somewone wake taD_ up |
| 15:18:21 | MrApathyCream | pokes taD_ in the left temple |
| 15:18:55 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: you have sub-par graphics card i take it? |
| 15:19:06 | Chestal | MrApathyCream: I play in the office with software renderign at 800x600 |
| 15:19:13 | Chestal | but I guess I am not the only one using software rendering |
| 15:19:20 | MrApathyCream | frame rate drop of ?% |
| 15:19:36 | Chestal | hmm, on a free field with no big buldings in sight I get 40-50fps with e4 |
| 15:19:40 | Chestal | with current e5, I get about 20-30 |
| 15:19:44 | MrApathyCream | wow |
| 15:19:54 | MrApathyCream | hardware seemingly has no depreciation |
| 15:20:11 | vogon_jeltz | what card? |
| 15:20:24 | MrApathyCream | geForce3 |
| 15:20:28 | Chestal | mine is an old ATI |
| 15:20:33 | MrApathyCream | 2m? |
| 15:20:46 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: then it's probably more polygons being thrown at the card. |
| 15:21:03 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: the Ge3 has T&L on-chip, plus early polygon culling. |
| 15:21:35 | Chestal | the frame rate drops because it needs to draw more pixels with software rendering |
| 15:21:57 | Chestal | my CPU can handle polygon calculations for normal worlds easily |
| 15:22:14 | Chestal | 1.8 is even slower |
| 15:22:36 | MrApathyCream | you can always you in 320x200 mode ;) |
| 15:23:58 | MrApathyCream | s/you/play/ ?! |
| 15:24:08 | Chestal | that gives |
| 15:24:15 | Chestal | play can always you in 320x200 mode ;-) |
| 15:24:20 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 15:24:34 | MrApathyCream | how did the nose get inject by that command? |
| 15:24:44 | MrApathyCream | ;-) |
| 15:25:51 | Chestal | by your '?!' ;) |
| 15:26:01 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 15:26:08 | Chestal | so, no more rats |
| 15:26:23 | MrApathyCream | the duck take care of them? |
| 15:26:56 | MrApathyCream | rats? |
| 15:27:05 | Chestal | the team is gone |
| 15:27:10 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 15:27:13 | MrApathyCream | your team? |
| 15:27:22 | MrApathyCream | oh, gerbol |
| 15:27:26 | MrApathyCream | little slow |
| 15:29:15 | MrApathyCream | i have this annoying problem where textures get lost after some time, really annoying |
| 15:29:39 | MrApathyCream | tanks start driving around with no left body, or left wheel, or,... |
| 15:29:54 | MrApathyCream | sometimes just the terret |
| 15:31:17 | MrApathyCream | or i can see the tank going sideways, but it disappears straight on... really annoying |
| 15:31:26 | ritchie_ | same here |
| 15:31:27 | MrApathyCream | texture memory problem i guess |
| 15:31:28 | ritchie_ | what is it? |
| 15:31:42 | ritchie_ | espec if you minimize the window |
| 15:32:00 | MrApathyCream | doesn't opengl has some new texture object or something.. do we use that? |
| 15:35:15 | Chestal | no problems with software renderign here :-) |
| 15:35:27 | Chestal | when I use hardware rendering at home I get all kinds of problems |
| 15:35:44 | Chestal | vanishign tanks, polygons not clipped correctly and overdrawing the message area sometimes |
| 15:35:54 | Chestal | maybe most hardware GL drivers are just buggy |
| 15:36:06 | MrApathyCream | prolly |
| 15:36:16 | ritchie_ | really annoying |
| 15:36:22 | ritchie_ | when you cant see a tank tho! |
| 15:36:40 | MrApathyCream | ritchie_: what video card |
| 15:36:46 | ritchie_ | geforce2 |
| 15:36:49 | ritchie_ | 32mb |
| 15:37:08 | [TeA|TrEE] | I getting a new PC !!!! |
| 15:37:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | P4 1900 |
| 15:37:14 | [TeA|TrEE] | Widnows XP |
| 15:37:22 | [TeA|TrEE] | Geforce 4 |
| 15:37:30 | [TeA|TrEE] | 120 GB Harddisk |
| 15:37:35 | [TeA|TrEE] | Burner |
| 15:37:39 | [TeA|TrEE] | DVD player |
| 15:37:47 | [TeA|TrEE] | 512 RAM |
| 15:37:50 | [TeA|TrEE] | ...... |
| 15:37:52 | ritchie_ | great |
| 15:37:54 | ritchie_ | for some |
| 15:38:13 | vogon_jeltz | needs more Linux. |
| 15:38:14 | ritchie_ | apathy - i know it happens with lots of ppl - other members of our team say the same |
| 15:38:40 | Chestal | maybe there's a bug in bzflag's GL code which doesn;t show with every implementation |
| 15:40:33 | MrApathyCream | ritchie_: ever lose a texture other than a tank texture? |
| 15:41:05 | ritchie_ | no |
| 15:41:11 | MrApathyCream | yeah, me neither |
| 15:42:43 | MrApathyCream | i hope all tanks share the one texture |
| 15:44:11 | MrApathyCream | it would appear we ARE using texture objects |
| 15:45:08 | MrApathyCream | textures DO appear to be ref-counted |
| 15:47:26 | MrApathyCream | steals [TeA|TrEE]'s Geforce 4 card |
| 15:55:48 | MrApathyCream | welp, back to 'testing' |
| 15:58:11 | MrApathyCream | lag kick@ducati 303 |
| 15:58:57 | Chestal | still on dial-up? |
| 15:59:52 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 16:01:08 | Chestal | that's like using a CGA video card ;-) |
| 16:01:26 | MrApathyCream | heh, don't in know it |
| 16:01:42 | MrApathyCream | my only options is satellite @$79/month |
| 16:02:03 | Chestal | for bzflag that's no option anyway I guess |
| 16:02:23 | MrApathyCream | two-way satellite |
| 16:02:37 | Chestal | probably with not so low latency? |
| 16:02:47 | MrApathyCream | prhaps |
| 16:06:20 | ritchie_ | apathy |
| 16:06:24 | ritchie_ | why nothing else? |
| 16:06:27 | ritchie_ | dsl/cable etc? |
| 16:11:24 | MrApathyCream | out on the farm, no service |
| 16:11:30 | ritchie_ | ah |
| 16:11:31 | ritchie_ | bad |
| 16:11:39 | ritchie_ | where abts? |
| 16:12:15 | MrApathyCream | maryland |
| 16:16:09 | taD_ | um is there anyway to modify the RGB files in bzflag, and have it appear in the other tanks screen? |
| 16:16:15 | taD_ | like a avatar? |
| 16:16:32 | BZFlag | taD_: not in 1.7 though this is planned for 1.8 |
| 16:16:36 | taD_ | really? |
| 16:16:44 | taD_ | an avatar type thing? cool |
| 16:16:49 | taD_ | :P |
| 16:16:51 | taD_ | ok |
| 16:17:00 | taD_ | off to do some work... |
| 16:17:13 | BZFlag | the server admin will have to approve meshes and load them on the server, but then you can select them |
| 16:17:22 | taD_ | ah |
| 16:17:22 | taD_ | ok |
| 16:17:45 | taD_ | it would be nice to have a red/white/blue tank... hehe |
| 16:17:47 | BZFlag | also I think we will allow you to change textures without the server admin approving each one, just allowing them to be cached on the server. |
| 16:18:26 | vogon_jeltz | makes a tank with all transparent textures. |
| 16:18:41 | BZFlag | vogon_jeltz: heh, no tranparent textures. |
| 16:18:50 | taD_ | hehe |
| 16:19:03 | vogon_jeltz | curses, foiled again! ;) |
| 16:19:26 | MrApathyCream | i dread seeing gerbil's tank |
| 16:19:33 | taD_ | lol |
| 16:19:41 | vogon_jeltz | hahahah. |
| 16:19:57 | BZFlag | just a grass colored tank would be cool. ;-) |
| 16:20:06 | vogon_jeltz | he'd probably invent colors to put on his tank. |
| 16:20:06 | MrApathyCream | Chestal says new hud drops framerate40% w/software rendering |
| 16:20:08 | taD_ | yea |
| 16:20:14 | vogon_jeltz | day-glo black. |
| 16:20:20 | taD_ | lol |
| 16:20:28 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: even with blending off? |
| 16:20:37 | Chestal | yep |
| 16:20:42 | BZFlag | I'd expect a 33% drop cause of the increased size. |
| 16:20:43 | Chestal | it's just the larger drawing area |
| 16:20:46 | Chestal | more pixels |
| 16:20:46 | taD_ | how bout a tank thats about 20 feet tall... |
| 16:21:15 | BZFlag | taD_: that would be a mesh change and hence require server admin approval. |
| 16:21:21 | Chestal | feels quite strong about the old GUI and wants it back |
| 16:21:54 | BZFlag | feels for Chestal, but vetos the idea. =( |
| 16:22:14 | Chestal | I think we really ned to make it optional |
| 16:22:22 | Chestal | or not everyone will upgrade |
| 16:22:48 | Chestal | it needs some work, too, like increasing font sizes |
| 16:23:10 | BZFlag | fixing font sizes would be nice. |
| 16:23:36 | Chestal | the old font for the scoreboard is nice, isn't it? |
| 16:23:42 | MrApathyCream | nods |
| 16:23:53 | BZFlag | the new one is nice on small displays |
| 16:24:02 | BZFlag | needs to be more dymanic. |
| 16:24:06 | Chestal | hmm, I liek the old font better at 800x600 here |
| 16:24:08 | BZFlag | er dynamic |
| 16:24:20 | Chestal | maybe on 640x480 |
| 16:24:35 | BZFlag | agreed. the new one is nice at 640x480 and smaller. |
| 16:24:48 | BZFlag | the old one was useless at 320x240 |
| 16:25:05 | Chestal | does the font get bigger with very high resolutions? |
| 16:25:14 | Chestal | the old one could be used at least up to 1280x1024 IMHO |
| 16:25:22 | BZFlag | that one does not. it's useless at 1600x1200 |
| 16:25:50 | Chestal | I thin I remember that the old fonts for the message area were too big at 1280x1024 |
| 16:26:22 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: I could theoretically hack up some SDL_ttf code that'd make the fonts more dynamic. |
| 16:26:28 | Chestal | MAC: have you publishes a binary of current CVS? |
| 16:26:29 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: (theoretically meaning "I may never get around to it.") |
| 16:26:36 | [TeA|TrEE]- | whats the shortcut from the clan Annihilation |
| 16:26:37 | BZFlag | we just need the scaling to be able to pick different bitmap fonts. |
| 16:26:39 | [TeA|TrEE]- | :) |
| 16:26:57 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 16:27:12 | vogon_jeltz | TrueType > bitmap. |
| 16:28:22 | Chestal | I think we're trying to put too much changes into 1.7 |
| 16:28:29 | Chestal | it was meant as a final release with minor enhancements |
| 16:28:38 | Chestal | main target: no bugs and good playability |
| 16:29:00 | Chestal | so it would be sufficient for 12 months to come, can be used for tournaments etc. |
| 16:29:20 | Chestal | IMHO a major change liek the new GUI layout is a bad idea |
| 16:29:22 | [TeA|TrEE]- | Chestal ???? |
| 16:29:33 | [TeA|TrEE]- | do you not what the shortcut of the clan Annihilation is |
| 16:30:08 | Chestal | it affects playability, makes the transition from e4 to e6 not a smooth one |
| 16:31:13 | [TeA|TrEE]- | Chestal ????????? |
| 16:31:27 | Chestal | tea: ?? |
| 16:31:37 | | vogon_jeltz: huh? |
| 16:31:37 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: ?!?!?! |
| 16:32:47 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: MyOpinion: 1.8 bite off more than it can chew: so the urge to do more in 1.7 |
| 16:33:55 | Chestal | there are too many hacks in 1.7 already, not a good idea to enhance it too much anymore |
| 16:34:10 | Chestal | and the more work we putinto 1.7, the more work we'll have to apply these changes to 1.8, too |
| 16:52:10 | [TeA|TrEE]- | question |
| 16:58:30 | [TeA|TrEE]- | GMT Time is the time in London isnt it |
| 17:23:38 | Chestal | UTC is the international standard time |
| 17:23:52 | Chestal | it is equal to Greenwhich (London time) in winter |
| 17:24:09 | Chestal | no funny daylight savings stuff |
| 17:36:13 | Chestal | MAC: still here? |
| 17:59:48 | taD_ | Drought-Ravaged NYC Institutes Alternate-Side-Of-Street Firefighting |
| 17:59:48 | taD_ | NEW YORK— Suffering from months of drought, New York City instituted alternate-side-of-the-street firefighting Monday. "On odd-numbered days, even-numbered buildings are not permitted to catch fire," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said at a press conference. "For those who fail to comply, we will not be able to put out your fire until the following morning. Your kind cooperation will help conserve water resources throughout the New York area." |
| 17:59:48 | taD_ | |
| 18:00:08 | | I'm rated PG-34!! |
| 18:00:08 | taD_ | ibot yow |
| 18:17:15 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 18:17:28 | taD_ | :? |
| 18:18:23 | MrApathyCream | chestal:yes |
| 18:21:40 | taD_ | ah cool |
| 18:22:07 | taD_ | changed all my RGB files so the laser is a 3 laser beams |
| 18:22:09 | taD_ | :P |
| 18:28:17 | taD_ | hey! |
| 18:28:19 | taD_ | its RCAM!!! |
| 18:28:23 | | rcam was last seen on #tuxboxproject 25 days, 14 hours, 54 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: i am off to an old far away land called bed, i will be in a state known as sleep. Call me and wake me up at 407-448-2555 and you shall face your destiny. Have a nice day. [Tue May 14 04:33:53 2002] |
| 18:28:23 | taD_ | ibot seen rcam |
| 18:28:48 | taD_ | RCAM IS ONLINE!!! |
| 19:19:32 | Widget | hihihi |
| 19:19:51 | vogon_jeltz | heya. |
| 19:20:43 | Widget | Any matches going on? |
| 19:21:44 | vogon_jeltz | nope. |
| 19:21:50 | vogon_jeltz | well, not that I know of. |
| 19:23:51 | Widget | Very quiet here for a Sunday morning. |
| 19:24:02 | Widget | Usually many people are talking. |
| 19:24:09 | dinah | try sunday evening... ;) |
| 19:24:27 | Widget | It isn't Sunday evening. |
| 19:24:39 | Widget | It's Sunday morning. |
| 19:24:56 | dinah | it isnt sunday ;) |
| 19:25:04 | Widget | Yes it is. |
| 19:25:23 | dinah | its 8:30 saterday evening... |
| 19:25:40 | Widget | It's 7:30 Sunday morning. |
| 19:26:10 | dinah | if you say so... |
| 19:26:22 | Widget | You British can't impose your time on everyone now! |
| 19:26:36 | dinah | well we could... ;) |
| 19:27:17 | Widget | You can't even impose your own time on yourselves! |
| 19:27:26 | Widget | London time is now an hour ahead of GMT! |
| 19:27:36 | Widget | You can't even synchronise the two properly. |
| 19:27:57 | dinah | thats right, because london in no greenwhich |
| 19:28:06 | Widget | Greenwich is in London. |
| 19:28:22 | dinah | but london is not in greenwich... |
| 19:28:29 | dinah | ;) |
| 19:28:36 | Widget | Well, even in Greenwich, the time is an hour ahead of GMT. |
| 19:29:17 | dinah | but none of this matters cause i cant find a bloody driver! |
| 19:29:31 | Widget | You admit defeat! |
| 19:29:51 | dinah | ATI has beaten be, yes i admit that |
| 19:29:57 | dinah | *me not be |
| 19:31:58 | Widget | There's a cheater on ducati. |
| 19:32:05 | Widget | He has the genocide flag, somehow. |
| 19:32:20 | Widget | Whenever he kills anyone, everybody on that team dies and it says 'Teammate hit by genocide'. |
| 19:33:39 | xgrac | hi, any1 can clean ducati from cheater? |
| 19:34:03 | captain_proton | sure hang on |
| 19:34:04 | Widget | Yes. |
| 19:34:12 | Widget | captain_proton: He claims he's unkickable. |
| 19:34:20 | Widget | captain_proton: And he has every flag... rapid fire, stealth, etc. |
| 19:40:03 | Widget | Hm. |
| 19:40:14 | captain_proton | Widget: nobody is unkickable |
| 19:40:45 | vogon_jeltz | assuming MsgSuperKill's implemented correctly. |
| 19:41:20 | vogon_jeltz | (i.e. prealwrite(), MsgSuperKill, close().) |
| 19:41:44 | eddienull | adam sux |
| 19:41:49 | eddienull | w00ps :) |
| 19:43:23 | Widget | Hm... so how will this person be gotten rid of? |
| 19:43:59 | vogon_jeltz | a swift MsgSuperKill across the bow. |
| 19:44:11 | captain_proton | Chestal: wake up know |
| 19:44:19 | captain_proton | got the subnet ban working |
| 19:44:28 | vogon_jeltz | either that, or pingflood him out of the Universe. |
| 19:45:42 | Widget | captain_proton: Why did the ban not work before? |
| 19:46:16 | captain_proton | not sure |
| 19:46:28 | captain_proton | i may have mistyped a number |
| 19:46:35 | Widget | Change the password. |
| 19:46:38 | Widget | Everyone saw it. |
| 19:46:52 | captain_proton | i can't chestal has to |
| 19:46:58 | captain_proton | kicks himself |
| 19:47:16 | captain_proton | we really need a better system for that |
| 19:47:18 | Widget | See? |
| 19:47:23 | captain_proton | too easy to flub it up like i did |
| 19:47:24 | Widget | This is the problem with having so much client side. |
| 19:54:16 | | :) |
| 19:54:16 | dinah | ibot: botsnack |
| 19:56:07 | captain_proton | BZFlag: around? i gots questions |
| 20:09:52 | BZFlag | ask away |
| 20:10:23 | captain_proton | what stuff has lineo done with the m68k coldfire? |
| 20:12:08 | BZFlag | quite a bit, but I have not been involved. |
| 20:12:31 | BZFlag | the ucdimm is coldfire, right? and there are snapgear routers that are coldfire too. |
| 20:13:47 | captain_proton | i think so |
| 20:14:48 | captain_proton | is everything based on uclibc or do you guys do glibc too? |
| 20:16:14 | vogon_jeltz | is away: places. |
| 20:29:29 | BZFlag | captain_proton: most things are glibc, but small devices are uclibc |
| 20:29:50 | BZFlag | uclibc passes more posix tests than glibc |
| 20:30:42 | captain_proton | glibc is more widely supported than uclibc |
| 20:30:49 | BZFlag | true |
| 20:31:05 | captain_proton | BZFlag: how much would you estimate one might pay for embeddix & the SDK for coldfire? |
| 20:31:14 | BZFlag | c++ support in uclibc is fairly new. |
| 20:31:43 | BZFlag | the SDK sells for like 5k in most cases which includes embedix. |
| 20:31:55 | captain_proton | cringes |
| 20:32:15 | BZFlag | there are plans for other cheaper releases, but I don't know of anything definite. |
| 20:32:34 | BZFlag | I'm pushing for a free non-commercial use version. |
| 20:32:38 | captain_proton | what if i'm affiliated with a university? ;) |
| 20:32:58 | BZFlag | there is an educational discount, not sure what it is though. |
| 20:33:35 | captain_proton | well, just keep in mind that if i can't afford it i'm gonna be bugging you about building toolchains ;) |
| 20:33:45 | BZFlag | heh |
| 20:34:35 | BZFlag | you probably don't want glibc on a coldfire though |
| 20:35:26 | captain_proton | care to explain? |
| 20:35:54 | BZFlag | finished upgrading my wifes machine. voodoo3 agp on a 400 win98 |
| 20:36:19 | BZFlag | glibc is just so large. typical coldfire systems are not that beefy. |
| 20:36:34 | BZFlag | opengl on 3dfx is a nightmare. |
| 20:37:48 | jpablo | any team wanting to play against gulmty ? |
| 20:39:25 | [TeA|TrEE]- | back |
| 20:39:34 | [TeA|TrEE]- | HeLLo |
| 20:40:37 | [TeA|TrEE]- | GMT UTC |
| 20:40:40 | [TeA|TrEE]- | hmmm |
| 20:40:45 | [TeA|TrEE]- | need help ;) |
| 20:42:09 | jpablo | on what ? |
| 21:00:20 | BZFlag | ok, I changed the score font back |
| 21:00:25 | BZFlag | it's a bit bigger now. |
| 21:01:21 | captain_proton | cvs ups |
| 21:04:46 | captain_proton | BZFlag: new font is acceptable to me |
| 21:14:22 | taD_ | groink |
| 21:14:51 | | Where's th' DAFFY DUCK EXHIBIT?? |
| 21:14:51 | taD_ | ibot yow |
| 21:15:11 | | [TeA|TrEE] is nothing but an it-fowling bag of loggerheaded squirrel guts. |
| 21:15:11 | taD_ | ibot insult [TeA|TrEE] |
| 21:15:21 | | :) |
| 21:15:21 | dinah | ibot: botsnack |
| 21:15:32 | | taD_: huh? |
| 21:15:32 | taD_ | ibot borsmack |
| 21:15:32 | dinah | good bot |
| 21:15:37 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 21:15:37 | taD_ | ibot botsmack |
| 21:15:45 | | yourself is nothing but an unmuzzled petrification of tickle-brained Sun IPC manuals. |
| 21:15:45 | taD_ | ibot insult yourself |
| 21:15:53 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:16:03 | captain_proton | taD_: leave ibot alone |
| 21:16:09 | captain_proton | or do it in PM |
| 21:16:15 | taD_ | ja, ok |
| 21:16:23 | taD_ | you too dinah |
| 21:16:35 | dinah | but i was being nice to him! |
| 21:16:39 | captain_proton | the occasional botsnack is ok |
| 21:16:43 | taD_ | ok |
| 21:16:53 | dinah | so there taD_ |
| 21:16:53 | captain_proton | taD_: however, you have a tendency to fill the channel with bot noise |
| 21:17:08 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:17:19 | taD_ | kinda like white noise? |
| 21:17:30 | captain_proton | no |
| 21:17:35 | captain_proton | white noise is plesant |
| 21:17:49 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:17:52 | taD_ | what would that be? |
| 21:18:00 | dinah | white noise, that includes ststic |
| 21:18:19 | taD_ | ah |
| 21:18:22 | taD_ | Schießen des größten Gopher |
| 21:18:35 | dinah | ? |
| 21:19:01 | taD_ | Schweingesicht, das Pizza für Abendessen jeder Sonntag ißt |
| 21:19:25 | taD_ | Wunsch wußten Sie, was ich sage? |
| 21:19:43 | taD_ | matrice toute de matrice de matrice vous réservoirs |
| 21:20:07 | taD_ | MATRICE, MATRICE, MATRICE!!!! |
| 21:20:58 | taD_ | ok |
| 21:21:15 | taD_ | so when is the games tomorrow? |
| 21:22:29 | challengueme | any team wanting to play against gulmty ? |
| 21:22:38 | taD_ | MATRICE, MATRICE, MATRICE!!!! |
| 21:22:54 | taD_ | humph |
| 21:22:54 | taD_ | not me |
| 21:23:01 | taD_ | post it to the forum? |
| 21:23:12 | dinah | i already have a match at 17 |
| 21:23:15 | captain_proton | i would if my teammates were here |
| 21:23:23 | Widget | challengueme: Guglmty is just TOOOOOOOOO good, |
| 21:23:39 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:23:45 | challengueme | ofcourse :-P |
| 21:25:17 | Widget | .mx is the Mexican hierarchy? |
| 21:25:29 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:25:35 | taD_ | I dont know |
| 21:25:47 | Widget | It is. |
| 21:25:51 | captain_proton | yup |
| 21:26:10 | Widget | Is .us the American hierarchy? |
| 21:26:48 | captain_proton | nods |
| 21:26:58 | taD_ | Sie sind im bzflag so schlecht, daß Sie besser spielen konnten, wenn Sie zu seinem Haus fuhren und ihn dort kämpfen |
| 21:27:10 | taD_ | nods his head and agrees |
| 21:27:33 | taD_ | nods his head a little too far, and hits the desktop |
| 21:28:21 | Widget | taD_: Sind Sie Deutsch? |
| 21:28:46 | taD_ | Nr., aber googleübersetzungsfelsen |
| 21:29:18 | taD_ | hmm, wettete ich, der nicht aus sehr gutem kam |
| 21:29:36 | taD_ | sprechen Sie Deutsches? |
| 21:29:56 | Widget | Nein. :) |
| 21:30:09 | taD_ | this is what you typed |
| 21:30:14 | taD_ | Are they German? |
| 21:30:17 | taD_ | hmm? |
| 21:30:18 | Widget | No. |
| 21:30:23 | Widget | It means, 'Are you German'. |
| 21:30:23 | taD_ | what does that mean? |
| 21:30:27 | taD_ | oh |
| 21:30:29 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:30:29 | Widget | You're using Babelfish, aren't you? |
| 21:30:32 | taD_ | nope |
| 21:30:36 | taD_ | I am useing google |
| 21:30:39 | Widget | OK. |
| 21:30:40 | taD_ | http://translate.google.com/translate_t |
| 21:30:49 | Widget | Well, it translates German horribly. |
| 21:31:04 | Widget | Sie can be used for polite 'you', or for 'they'. |
| 21:31:16 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: fonts are MUCH better |
| 21:31:18 | Widget | And it's not 'Sprechen Sie Deutsches'. It's 'Sprechen Sie Deutsch'. |
| 21:31:24 | taD_ | hm |
| 21:31:27 | taD_ | google... |
| 21:31:29 | taD_ | not perfect |
| 21:31:31 | taD_ | ja ja, sterben Sie Sie kleine Behälter und erleiden Sie den Wrath von Breadhat!!! |
| 21:31:58 | captain_proton | taD_: strange how google translate has the exact same languages as babelfish/systran |
| 21:32:11 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:32:12 | Widget | captain_proton: No, it lacks a few of the languages the latter has. |
| 21:32:16 | taD_ | yea |
| 21:32:25 | taD_ | like korean |
| 21:32:26 | Widget | captain_proton: Like Japanese, Chinese and Korean. |
| 21:32:27 | taD_ | and jap |
| 21:32:29 | taD_ | nand chin |
| 21:32:32 | taD_ | ner |
| 21:32:34 | Widget | Wo jiao zhongwen! |
| 21:32:41 | taD_ | ja ja!!! |
| 21:32:45 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:32:47 | Widget | Er.. you mei you renmin hui jiang zhongwen? |
| 21:33:18 | taD_ | Er.. you mei you renmin hui jiang zhongwen?He. you mei you renmin hui jiang zhongwen?? |
| 21:33:27 | taD_ | oops |
| 21:33:36 | taD_ | sent it through the german trans |
| 21:33:37 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:33:40 | Widget | Hah. |
| 21:33:57 | Widget | The Chinese translator won't work.... it requires it to be in hanzi (characters) I think. |
| 21:34:27 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:34:31 | taD_ | yea |
| 21:34:41 | taD_ | and you cant paste it into the IRC |
| 21:34:43 | taD_ | can you? |
| 21:34:52 | taD_ | Sie sind alle die dummen Schweine, die Handmitts mit einer Gallone Pizzasoße auf Ihnen essen!!!!!!!11 |
| 21:35:00 | taD_ | oh my |
| 21:35:04 | Widget | IRC only supports Latin-3 I think. |
| 21:35:17 | jpablo | wow the HUD is great. |
| 21:35:18 | taD_ | you spell swine as schweine? |
| 21:35:19 | Widget | You know, if anyone who speaks German comes along, they'll laugh at you. |
| 21:35:23 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:35:25 | taD_ | yea |
| 21:35:30 | jpablo | a option to turn it off would be good. |
| 21:35:31 | taD_ | thats what I am trying to |
| 21:35:43 | taD_ | like chestal |
| 21:35:45 | taD_ | :P |
| 21:35:46 | Widget | The new HUD in 1.8? |
| 21:35:50 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:35:54 | taD_ | I would like to see it |
| 21:35:56 | captain_proton | Widget: 1.7 |
| 21:35:57 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:36:04 | Widget | captain_proton: Oh.... latest CVS, I suppose? |
| 21:36:07 | taD_ | could anyone compile it for me for windowz? |
| 21:36:09 | captain_proton | yup |
| 21:36:16 | taD_ | :P |
| 21:36:17 | captain_proton | taD_: apathy's f5 build has it |
| 21:36:24 | taD_ | um |
| 21:36:30 | taD_ | the lastest? |
| 21:36:33 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 21:36:33 | taD_ | latest? |
| 21:36:36 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:37:18 | Widget | taD_ lives in Kentucky. |
| 21:37:29 | taD_ | yup |
| 21:37:58 | taD_ | built on 06/08/2002? |
| 21:38:10 | taD_ | I have the e5 version, is that the same? |
| 21:38:15 | captain_proton | taD_: depends |
| 21:38:19 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:38:19 | taD_ | ok |
| 21:38:23 | captain_proton | taD_: when was that e5 version built? |
| 21:38:23 | taD_ | will download f5 |
| 21:38:25 | akira_ | abend |
| 21:38:28 | taD_ | same |
| 21:38:32 | taD_ | same date |
| 21:38:35 | captain_proton | today? |
| 21:38:39 | Widget | taD_: You can practice your German with akira_. |
| 21:38:41 | captain_proton | then it ought to hav4e the new HUD |
| 21:38:42 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:38:46 | taD_ | no |
| 21:38:53 | taD_ | oh |
| 21:39:05 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:39:13 | akira_ | widget : we know each other ? |
| 21:39:24 | Widget | akira_: I don't think so. |
| 21:39:28 | MrApathyCream | uploading a new e5 now... wait 15 mins if you want it |
| 21:39:36 | MrApathyCream | f5 is there tho |
| 21:39:39 | taD_ | OK!!! |
| 21:39:47 | taD_ | 15 min...? |
| 21:39:49 | taD_ | yikes |
| 21:39:52 | MrApathyCream | new vers has bigger fonts |
| 21:39:53 | taD_ | you on dialup? |
| 21:39:56 | taD_ | oh good |
| 21:39:59 | akira_ | Widget: so --- ahhh .. the "abend" was the hint ... |
| 21:40:02 | MrApathyCream | 56k |
| 21:40:03 | akira_ | ok |
| 21:40:08 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 21:40:08 | taD_ | I hate the little fonts |
| 21:40:13 | taD_ | ugh |
| 21:40:28 | MrApathyCream | they're no more |
| 21:40:36 | captain_proton | well sorta kinda |
| 21:40:44 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:40:59 | taD_ | I like living on the bleeding edge |
| 21:41:03 | captain_proton | they're bigger, but not to the point that i complain about it ;) |
| 21:41:07 | taD_ | lol |
| 21:41:31 | MrApathyCream | they're big enough now |
| 21:41:52 | captain_proton | woowoo |
| 21:41:54 | taD_ | will be waiting for e5 |
| 21:42:00 | akira_ | who want fight the moles on sunday evening ? |
| 21:42:00 | captain_proton | concensus! |
| 21:42:02 | taD_ | what about 1.8? |
| 21:42:10 | taD_ | why is that broken? |
| 21:42:24 | captain_proton | taD_: just the installer |
| 21:42:32 | taD_ | oh |
| 21:42:33 | captain_proton | go build it on linux |
| 21:42:33 | taD_ | hm |
| 21:42:35 | captain_proton | it'll work fine |
| 21:42:37 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 21:42:37 | taD_ | hehe |
| 21:42:39 | taD_ | yea |
| 21:42:47 | taD_ | I just need a new linux box |
| 21:43:01 | taD_ | like tea|tree's box |
| 21:43:03 | taD_ | :P |
| 21:43:04 | MrApathyCream | 16mins and counting |
| 21:43:12 | taD_ | tick, tick, tick |
| 21:43:17 | taD_ | going up? |
| 21:43:18 | MrApathyCream | loves dialog |
| 21:43:21 | taD_ | lol |
| 21:43:24 | MrApathyCream | loves dialup |
| 21:43:26 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 21:43:34 | taD_ | says ban dialup from the US |
| 21:43:49 | captain_proton | taD_: ok....you're paying for my broadband right? |
| 21:43:56 | iLLf8d | hey cap whats the scoop here? |
| 21:43:56 | taD_ | um |
| 21:43:58 | iLLf8d | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `aboxicon.png', needed by `all-am'. Stop. |
| 21:43:59 | iLLf8d | make[2]: Leaving directory `/archive/bzedit/data' |
| 21:43:59 | iLLf8d | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 21:43:59 | taD_ | no |
| 21:44:01 | iLLf8d | bzedit error |
| 21:44:02 | taD_ | ack |
| 21:44:08 | iLLf8d | also a sed one in configuration |
| 21:44:16 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: where j00 get that bzedit from? |
| 21:44:27 | taD_ | says (in quote) "ack" |
| 21:44:36 | iLLf8d | sed: can't read ./intl/po2tbl.sed.in: No such file or directory |
| 21:44:36 | iLLf8d | ./configure: ./po/POTFILES.in: No such file or directory |
| 21:44:40 | iLLf8d | cvs |
| 21:44:46 | captain_proton | ugg |
| 21:44:47 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:44:49 | captain_proton | cvs is oooold |
| 21:44:57 | iLLf8d | hook me up yo |
| 21:44:59 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 21:45:00 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 21:45:04 | taD_ | yo yo yo, get a computer!! |
| 21:45:08 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/tarballs/bzedit-2.0.tar.gz |
| 21:45:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD |
| 21:45:13 | taD_ | says ack |
| 21:45:21 | taD_ | starts running |
| 21:45:32 | akira_ | nobody wants to fight moles ?? |
| 21:45:42 | akira_ | why ? |
| 21:45:47 | dinah | is away: falling down ;-( |
| 21:45:59 | taD_ | hits the door on the way out |
| 21:46:20 | taD_ | hmm |
| 21:46:27 | taD_ | 1.8 uses XML? |
| 21:46:30 | [TeA|TrEE] | what is that ??? |
| 21:46:36 | taD_ | um |
| 21:46:36 | taD_ | um |
| 21:46:38 | taD_ | dunno |
| 21:46:41 | | bugger all, i dunno, tad_ |
| 21:46:42 | taD_ | ibot XML? |
| 21:46:50 | [TeA|TrEE] | jupitar ,,,,,,,,,,,, |
| 21:47:00 | taD_ | ?? |
| 21:47:54 | MrApathyCream | 9 mins and counting |
| 21:48:01 | taD_ | woohoo |
| 21:48:06 | taD_ | hurry hurry hurry |
| 21:48:39 | | eXceptional Monkey Love |
| 21:48:39 | MrApathyCream | ibot, XML? |
| 21:49:00 | taD_ | oh |
| 21:49:04 | taD_ | yuk |
| 21:49:13 | MrApathyCream | 1,8 does not have XML! |
| 21:49:18 | taD_ | it does not? |
| 21:49:26 | taD_ | its says so on your page |
| 21:50:34 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: Chestal still stormin? |
| 21:51:14 | taD_ | storming? |
| 21:51:23 | MrApathyCream | 5 mins... |
| 21:51:55 | taD_ | yay |
| 21:52:58 | taD_ | squoink? |
| 21:55:12 | MrApathyCream | go git it |
| 21:55:28 | taD_ | scrambles to get it |
| 21:55:36 | Widget | OK, OK, I have some complaints. |
| 21:55:41 | Widget | First of all, for observer roaming. |
| 21:55:49 | Widget | Strafe should be Alt+Left and Alt+Right. |
| 21:55:54 | taD_ | ja |
| 21:56:08 | Widget | Shift+Left and Shift+Right should do the same as just Left and Right, respectively. |
| 21:56:32 | Widget | With the new HUD, it looks nice, but there should be less translucency. Due to the green floor, I can't see any green text on the HUD. |
| 21:56:41 | Widget | And it should be slightly shorter heightwise. |
| 21:57:12 | Widget | And... the colours in FX3 are very nice and vivid. It would be nice to have such colours in e5. |
| 21:59:13 | akira_ | is here a team which wanne fight moles on sunday ??? |
| 22:00:48 | Widget | It is Sunday. |
| 22:01:44 | | I haven't seen 'Boomer', [TeA|TrEE] |
| 22:01:44 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot seen Boomer |
| 22:01:46 | akira_ | yeah .. i mean .. at 1900 european time |
| 22:02:11 | | I haven't seen 'Matt', [TeA|TrEE] |
| 22:02:11 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot seen Matt |
| 22:02:18 | | Noodleman was last seen on #bzflag 8 days, 7 hours, 33 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: how do i start private chat? [Fri May 31 15:28:46 2002] |
| 22:02:18 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot seen Noodleman |
| 22:02:30 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 22:02:59 | | rcam was last seen on #tuxboxproject 25 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: i am off to an old far away land called bed, i will be in a state known as sleep. Call me and wake me up at 407-448-2555 and you shall face your destiny. Have a nice day. [Tue May 14 04:33:53 2002] |
| 22:02:59 | Widget | ibot: seen rcam |
| 22:03:18 | Widget | [TeA|TrEE]: Call him. |
| 22:03:33 | Widget | akira_: Hm.... what is that GMT? 1700? |
| 22:03:46 | akira_ | dont know |
| 22:03:49 | akira_ | perhaps |
| 22:03:55 | akira_ | perhaps not |
| 22:04:00 | akira_ | but anyway |
| 22:04:07 | akira_ | YOU WANT TO FIGHT THE MOLES ? |
| 22:05:39 | Widget | Can't. That's 5:00 Monday morning for us. |
| 22:06:26 | akira_ | lol |
| 22:06:31 | akira_ | where are you from ? |
| 22:06:36 | Widget | New Zealand. |
| 22:06:41 | akira_ | hey |
| 22:06:45 | akira_ | gimme a favour |
| 22:06:52 | Widget | Yah? |
| 22:06:55 | akira_ | write me a postcard :)) |
| 22:07:17 | akira_ | i have little contest with my girl |
| 22:07:17 | Widget | Hehe, I'll see if I can get one. :) |
| 22:07:25 | akira_ | yeah |
| 22:07:42 | akira_ | east or westcoast from ne zealand |
| 22:07:44 | akira_ | ? |
| 22:07:51 | Widget | South Island. |
| 22:07:55 | Widget | Invercargill. |
| 22:08:21 | Widget | Neither West Coast not east Coast. It's the most southerly city in NZ. |
| 22:08:25 | akira_ | where is that ? |
| 22:08:29 | akira_ | wow |
| 22:08:39 | Widget | Do you have a map? Look at South Island. |
| 22:08:44 | Widget | About 40 km south of Dunedin. |
| 22:08:54 | Widget | Hi, Condon. |
| 22:08:58 | akira_ | the contest is about the most far away point from here ... |
| 22:09:10 | akira_ | she got a mail from western new zealand |
| 22:09:16 | Condon | Hi all |
| 22:09:32 | MoritmeR | hi |
| 22:09:39 | akira_ | if you were farther away .. PLEASE .... write me a postcard :)) |
| 22:09:56 | Widget | Heh. :) Where in Germany do you live? |
| 22:10:15 | akira_ | central germany |
| 22:10:16 | Widget | What city? |
| 22:10:20 | Widget | Ah. |
| 22:10:21 | Widget | Hm... |
| 22:10:23 | akira_ | magdeburg :) near berlin |
| 22:10:44 | Widget | Oh. There's a University there. |
| 22:10:49 | akira_ | i would write back :)) |
| 22:11:02 | Widget | You can also try blackhound. He lives in South America. |
| 22:11:02 | akira_ | Widget: you know the university here ??? |
| 22:11:04 | Widget | OK, I'll write you one. |
| 22:11:09 | akira_ | hehe |
| 22:11:30 | Widget | akira_: I've seen people with the domain name Uni-Magdeburg.de. I drew the obvious conclusion. |
| 22:11:42 | akira_ | ok. heres the adres: mathias gumz, sternstrasse 25, 39104 magdeburg germany |
| 22:11:56 | akira_ | Widget: i am one of these :)) |
| 22:13:32 | Widget | will go to some tourist shop tomorrow and try to find a postcard. :) |
| 22:14:22 | akira_ | hehe |
| 22:14:25 | akira_ | thanx alot |
| 22:15:20 | dinah | is back (gone 00:29:33) |
| 22:15:26 | Widget | Hi, dinah! |
| 22:15:31 | dinah | hello luv |
| 22:15:32 | akira_ | hey dinah |
| 22:15:46 | Condon | Hi chief! |
| 22:15:54 | dinah | hello |
| 22:16:02 | dinah | mort still here? |
| 22:16:23 | akira_ | dinah: compsoc vs moles on sunday ? |
| 22:16:37 | dinah | who? |
| 22:16:49 | Widget | akira_: dinah is captain of consumption |
| 22:17:26 | dinah | i perfer to be called rex apium of consumption |
| 22:17:44 | dinah | any other teams have there here? |
| 22:18:16 | Widget | dinah: Ave, Imperator consumptiorum |
| 22:18:29 | ritchie_ | the king of the bees dinah? |
| 22:18:36 | dinah | Widget: speak latin eh? |
| 22:18:40 | ritchie_ | me |
| 22:18:52 | ritchie_ | dinah - you do latin? |
| 22:18:54 | Widget | dinah: I suppose you learnt Latin at Victorias or Thatchery. |
| 22:19:08 | ritchie_ | ? |
| 22:19:10 | dinah | Widget: certainly |
| 22:19:13 | ritchie_ | latin and greek are the best |
| 22:19:20 | ritchie_ | doing them at uni next year |
| 22:19:23 | Widget | Of course not. Chinese is the best. |
| 22:19:28 | ritchie_ | no |
| 22:19:29 | Widget | Followed by Sanskrit, of course. |
| 22:19:31 | ritchie_ | reading |
| 22:19:33 | dinah | ominus laud dinah! |
| 22:19:41 | ritchie_ | plato apologia at the moment |
| 22:19:43 | ritchie_ | its great |
| 22:20:02 | Widget | Discere Graeca volo. |
| 22:20:07 | akira_ | Widget: i know who dinah is |
| 22:20:16 | ritchie_ | malo malo malo malo |
| 22:20:19 | Widget | ritchie_: Read the Astadhyayi of Panini. |
| 22:20:25 | akira_ | i am member of moles |
| 22:20:30 | dinah | ritchie_: iugula! |
| 22:20:37 | ritchie_ | malo malo malo = i would rather be in an apple tree than a naughty boy in adversity |
| 22:20:39 | akira_ | so i am allowed to ask :)) |
| 22:20:39 | Widget | akira_: I know. I've seen you play often. |
| 22:20:44 | ritchie_ | whoopd |
| 22:20:48 | ritchie_ | malo malo malo malo = i would rather be in an apple tree than a naughty boy in adversity |
| 22:20:53 | ritchie_ | quite cunning |
| 22:20:56 | akira_ | Widget: you have seen me often ??? |
| 22:20:58 | Widget | Wo hui jiang zhongwen! |
| 22:21:02 | akira_ | when ? |
| 22:21:06 | Widget | akira_: I've observed all the Moles' matches. |
| 22:21:06 | dinah | akira_: who am i? |
| 22:21:20 | akira_ | do you play another nickname ? |
| 22:21:29 | akira_ | dinah: leader of compsoc |
| 22:21:36 | akira_ | Widget: really ? |
| 22:21:36 | dinah | only once, this afternoon |
| 22:21:52 | Widget | akira_: No. Oddly, I've never played you though I've played the other members of your team. |
| 22:22:09 | dinah | akira_: no! |
| 22:22:19 | akira_ | Widget: why ? |
| 22:22:33 | akira_ | dinah: wanne fight moles tomorrow ? |
| 22:22:50 | dinah | and get slaughtered? no thank you |
| 22:22:55 | akira_ | hehe |
| 22:22:57 | akira_ | sorry |
| 22:22:58 | Widget | akira_: I don't know. You've never been online when I've played. |
| 22:23:03 | akira_ | aha |
| 22:23:18 | dinah | so no other teams have three people here? |
| 22:23:19 | Widget | dinah's team performed admirably against the Fr0ot L0opS. |
| 22:23:28 | akira_ | dinah: little chicken :) |
| 22:23:41 | dinah | akira_: yes i am |
| 22:24:00 | akira_ | hehe |
| 22:24:16 | dinah | though i perfer to think of it as wisdom |
| 22:24:16 | akira_ | my girlfriend is looking at this chat and loughing :)) |
| 22:24:42 | Widget | Discretion is the better part of valour? |
| 22:24:44 | Condon | so maybe there are three brave people to fight 3 of consumption??? |
| 22:24:58 | Widget | [:-(]Condon |
| 22:25:05 | Widget | [:-(]dinah |
| 22:25:10 | Widget | [:-(]MortimeR |
| 22:25:41 | dinah | i tried to add that to the list at wbzfquery it didnt work :( |
| 22:25:43 | jpablo | still no team available ? |
| 22:25:55 | dinah | oh we are! |
| 22:25:57 | Widget | Support Taiwanese independence! |
| 22:26:11 | jpablo | dinah: are you ready to play now ? |
| 22:26:17 | dinah | jpablo: we are ready! |
| 22:26:22 | Widget | Woohoo! |
| 22:26:24 | Widget | I wanter watch! |
| 22:26:29 | jpablo | cool, where ? |
| 22:26:41 | dinah | we need a ref... |
| 22:26:42 | jpablo | Chestal: can you setup ducati ? |
| 22:26:53 | Widget | Chestal is away, methinks. |
| 22:27:03 | jpablo | damn ... |
| 22:27:12 | jpablo | we need someone to setup a server. |
| 22:27:41 | dinah | we could do it on ducati, if someone had the code... |
| 22:27:57 | Widget | Is 59000 down? |
| 22:28:15 | jpablo | it's up |
| 22:28:20 | jpablo | we need a ref |
| 22:28:36 | Widget | Shall I ref? |
| 22:28:42 | jpablo | sure |
| 22:28:51 | Widget | OK, see you there. |
| 22:29:08 | jpablo | ok, dinah put your team on ducati 59000 |
| 22:29:33 | Widget | It says the game is full. |
| 22:29:36 | Widget | I cannot connect. |
| 22:29:37 | dinah | hey moritmer condon! go to ducati 59000 |
| 22:29:42 | Condon | ok |
| 22:29:43 | Widget | Even as blue. |
| 22:29:46 | Widget | I can't connect! |
| 22:30:23 | akira_ | Chestal sleeps now |
| 22:30:35 | akira_ | its 00:34 right now |
| 22:30:42 | akira_ | here in germany |
| 22:30:44 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 22:30:46 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: 0 | Green: 3 players, score: 0 | |
| 22:31:55 | Widget | What do I do!?!? |
| 22:32:09 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 22:32:12 | dinah | @Widget blue team... |
| 22:32:15 | Widget | I can't. |
| 22:32:19 | Widget | It says Game is Full or Over. |
| 22:32:21 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 22:33:08 | Widget | HELP!!! |
| 22:33:16 | dinah | try @red |
| 22:33:26 | jpablo | what's up ? |
| 22:33:42 | Widget | That doesn't work either. |
| 22:33:45 | ritchie_ | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 22:33:45 | bzbot | Red: 1 players, score: 1 | Green: 3 players, score: -1 | |
| 22:33:49 | jpablo | maybe we can setup another server |
| 22:33:50 | Widget | When I try to join, it says "Game is full or ever". |
| 22:33:52 | Widget | Over. |
| 22:33:54 | ritchie_ | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 22:33:55 | bzbot | dinah (Green):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). MortimeR (Green):-2 (5 wins, 7 losses). Condon (Green):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). [guglmty] drs (Red):0 (2 wins, 2 losses). |
| 22:34:07 | jpablo | i have lastes cvs and a server with good bw |
| 22:34:12 | jpablo | i just need the ducati line |
| 22:34:31 | jpablo | or the binary if that have patches |
| 22:34:55 | ritchie_ | ducati line? |
| 22:34:59 | Widget | What is that? |
| 22:35:08 | ritchie_ | do youneed server options do you mean? |
| 22:35:09 | Widget | Why do you need the special ducati patches? |
| 22:35:17 | jpablo | for countdown |
| 22:35:19 | ritchie_ | what special patches |
| 22:35:21 | jpablo | and taht stuff |
| 22:35:21 | ritchie_ | they are in cvs |
| 22:35:24 | ritchie_ | cuontdown is in cvs |
| 22:35:27 | jpablo | ok, |
| 22:35:29 | jpablo | i have cvs |
| 22:35:34 | Widget | Good. |
| 22:35:35 | Widget | Run it! |
| 22:35:41 | ritchie_ | bzfs -cr -b -h -mp 0,3,3,0,0 -mo 4 -ms 2 +r -p 59000 -pr 59001 -passwd xxxxx -requireudp -time 1800 |
| 22:35:43 | ritchie_ | that is the command |
| 22:35:46 | jpablo | ok. |
| 22:35:49 | ritchie_ | hang oin |
| 22:35:52 | ritchie_ | you dont need pr |
| 22:35:57 | ritchie_ | bzfs -cr -b -h -mp 0,3,3,0,0 -mo 4 -ms 2 +r -p 59000 -passwd xxxxx -requireudp -time 1800 |
| 22:36:02 | ritchie_ | then you need a referee |
| 22:36:06 | ritchie_ | cant do it im afraid |
| 22:36:07 | Widget | I'll ref. |
| 22:36:09 | ritchie_ | im going to bed |
| 22:36:11 | dinah | im not playing againt a team on their home server... |
| 22:36:11 | ritchie_ | widget |
| 22:36:15 | ritchie_ | you know how to? |
| 22:36:17 | dinah | lag issues |
| 22:36:19 | jpablo | wait a bit |
| 22:36:22 | Widget | ritchie_: Yes, I've reffed before. |
| 22:36:26 | jpablo | dinah: it's not in our home |
| 22:36:32 | jpablo | dinah: it's on our city |
| 22:36:34 | jpablo | but no here |
| 22:36:39 | dinah | where? what country? |
| 22:36:42 | jpablo | mx |
| 22:36:44 | Widget | dinah: Mexico, I suppose. |
| 22:37:04 | Widget | dinah: You've played German teams on Ducati. |
| 22:37:06 | dinah | fock! im in england and all my team is in europe but mort |
| 22:37:19 | Widget | Where is MortimeR? |
| 22:37:24 | iLLf8d | HMM |
| 22:37:26 | dinah | mx i think... |
| 22:37:36 | jpablo | why don't you test it ? |
| 22:37:39 | Widget | Hi, iLLf8d. |
| 22:37:42 | akira_ | ahso |
| 22:37:45 | akira_ | ok |
| 22:37:52 | akira_ | i leave now |
| 22:37:55 | Widget | Bye. |
| 22:37:57 | akira_ | cu all |
| 22:37:57 | Condon | mort is from spain AFAIK |
| 22:37:59 | Widget | dinah: MortimeR is in Spain. |
| 22:38:03 | dinah | ah |
| 22:38:08 | akira_ | Widget: remind the postcard :)) |
| 22:38:08 | taD_ | google.com |
| 22:38:12 | akira_ | cu all bye bye |
| 22:38:15 | dinah | so a mex server is not good |
| 22:38:19 | taD_ | hehe |
| 22:38:23 | jpablo | proyectoslibres.org |
| 22:38:25 | jpablo | join |
| 22:38:27 | jpablo | standar port |
| 22:38:33 | jpablo | 59000 |
| 22:38:34 | jpablo | 59000 port |
| 22:39:00 | jpablo | wait |
| 22:39:08 | Widget | Doesnt' work. |
| 22:39:10 | iLLf8d | lo widge |
| 22:39:16 | iLLf8d | talking bzflag maps with someone heh |
| 22:39:32 | jpablo | let stop the firewall |
| 22:39:36 | dinah | i cant conect... |
| 22:39:44 | jpablo | wait |
| 22:41:03 | Condon | at future please give me the IP; I can't remember this name:-( |
| 22:41:20 | Widget | Condon: You can remember IPs more easily than domain names? |
| 22:41:39 | jpablo | test now |
| 22:41:40 | jpablo | test now |
| 22:41:40 | MortimeR | easy, freeprojects.org in spanish |
| 22:41:45 | jpablo | proyectoslibres.org:59000 |
| 22:41:47 | Condon | sometimes it's easier |
| 22:42:26 | drs | ok, how is working that server (proyectoslibres.org)? |
| 22:42:26 | taD_ | hmm |
| 22:42:46 | drs | here is fine, not very good, but playable. |
| 22:43:55 | drs | is that kind of lag tolerable on that server? |
| 22:44:47 | dinah | lags are to bad drs |
| 22:49:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | question |
| 22:49:20 | [TeA|TrEE] | somebody there |
| 22:49:39 | dinah | yes |
| 22:49:40 | Widget | It shut down! |
| 22:49:49 | jpablo | yeah |
| 22:49:55 | dinah | it did that |
| 22:49:57 | Condon | so go to ducati and play |
| 22:49:58 | drs | any other server in where to play? |
| 22:50:01 | jpablo | my team don't want to play a unofficial match |
| 22:50:13 | MoritmeR | why? |
| 22:50:20 | dinah | i wont play with lags of 400+ |
| 22:50:23 | [TeA|TrEE] | soooooooo |
| 22:50:28 | [TeA|TrEE] | question |
| 22:50:32 | jpablo | MoritmeR: dunno |
| 22:50:42 | [TeA|TrEE] | in germany the time is now 1 AM |
| 22:50:54 | Condon | in Poland too 1AM |
| 22:50:59 | drs | here is almost 18:00. |
| 22:51:05 | [TeA|TrEE] | GMT time is 11 PM |
| 22:51:06 | dinah | almost 12 here |
| 22:51:17 | [TeA|TrEE] | the match is at 17:00 |
| 22:51:18 | MoritmeR | and in spain, 1:00 |
| 22:51:32 | dinah | *12am that is |
| 22:51:36 | [TeA|TrEE] | sau i have to wake at in 6 hours ( 7:00 Am ) dont i ??!?!?!? |
| 22:51:43 | dinah | or is it pm? tehehehe |
| 22:51:47 | jpablo | humm, anybody here who can setup a server ? |
| 22:51:57 | Widget | And here, it's 11 AM. |
| 22:51:59 | [TeA|TrEE] | me jpablo |
| 22:52:04 | Widget | 12 hours faster than GMT. |
| 22:52:06 | [TeA|TrEE] | am i rite ?? |
| 22:52:10 | jpablo | [TeA|TrEE]: do you have good bw ? |
| 22:52:19 | [TeA|TrEE] | VNC ?? |
| 22:52:19 | Widget | [TeA|TrEE]: You're in Germany, yes? |
| 22:52:24 | [TeA|TrEE] | yeah |
| 22:52:33 | Condon | hey, I can try to setup a server, but I have to compile it first |
| 22:52:35 | dinah | conection? |
| 22:52:39 | Widget | [TeA|TrEE]: Does your server have good bandwidth? |
| 22:52:40 | jpablo | ./bzfs -cr -b -h -mp 0,3,3,0,0 -mo 4 -ms 2 +r -p 59000 -passwd xxxxx -requireudp -time 1800 |
| 22:52:46 | [TeA|TrEE] | dont know |
| 22:52:55 | Widget | [TeA|TrEE]: What sort of connection? Modem? |
| 22:53:12 | [TeA|TrEE] | DSL ! |
| 22:53:18 | Widget | [TeA|TrEE]: OK, set one up. |
| 22:53:23 | [TeA|TrEE] | VNC ?? |
| 22:53:28 | Widget | What is VNC? |
| 22:53:40 | [TeA|TrEE] | which server do ya mean ?? |
| 22:53:49 | [TeA|TrEE] | for what |
| 22:53:50 | jpablo | ... |
| 22:53:58 | Widget | [TeA|TrEE]: Can you set up a BZFlag server? |
| 22:54:04 | [TeA|TrEE] | noooooooo |
| 22:54:14 | [TeA|TrEE] | ive got Windows 98 |
| 22:54:24 | dinah | is repulsed |
| 22:54:38 | [TeA|TrEE] | you mean start bzflag the create server ore what ?? |
| 22:54:52 | jpablo | forget it |
| 22:54:57 | [TeA|TrEE] | ..... |
| 22:55:06 | [TeA|TrEE] | i could open a VNC server |
| 22:55:19 | Condon | hey, what port/proto should I open on firewall? |
| 22:55:30 | Condon | only 59000/udp? |
| 22:55:32 | jpablo | use : ./bzfs -cr -b -h -mp 0,3,3,0,0 -mo 4 -ms 2 +r -p 59000 -passwd xxxxx -requireudp -time 1800 -pr 59001 |
| 22:55:44 | jpablo | and then open 59000 and 59001 |
| 22:56:24 | jpablo | you need cvs |
| 22:58:12 | dinah | Chestal, Chestal, wherefore art thou Chestal? |
| 22:58:28 | jpablo | where's procton ? |
| 22:58:28 | Widget | That means, 'Why are you Chestal?' |
| 22:58:55 | dinah | shhh its shakespear, no one else understands it |
| 22:59:40 | jpablo | lalalala |
| 22:59:41 | dinah | and besides when juliet said it she was unaware of romeo's whereabouts |
| 22:59:42 | taD_ | shakesphear is a jedi |
| 22:59:52 | taD_ | :P |
| 23:01:47 | [TeA|TrEE] | server name RPOOK1 |
| 23:02:07 | jpablo | ... |
| 23:05:52 | jpablo | lalalalala |
| 23:06:36 | jpablo | we want to start uping our raiting |
| 23:06:42 | MortimeR | I think not match today. |
| 23:06:55 | Condon | so type mkdir .cvspass |
| 23:07:37 | Condon | wait one moment please... wa're working on the server |
| 23:07:45 | jpablo | Condon: you have linux ? |
| 23:07:53 | jpablo | i have send you the binary compiled. |
| 23:07:58 | jpablo | s/have/can |
| 23:09:21 | jpablo | ? |
| 23:13:09 | Widget | Sigh... slow day. |
| 23:14:14 | dinah | were making a server, at condons |
| 23:14:23 | Condon | ok, server is done |
| 23:14:27 | Condon | 217.11.136.110 |
| 23:15:01 | jpablo | port ? |
| 23:16:04 | Condon | port 59000 |
| 23:16:32 | Condon | port 59000 not 5900 |
| 23:16:41 | jpablo | i can't join |
| 23:16:48 | dinah | anyone else having trouble connecting? |
| 23:16:58 | Condon | I've release 59000 on udp and tcp |
| 23:17:13 | Condon | and 59001 on udp and tcp |
| 23:17:36 | dinah | can not connect |
| 23:17:45 | Widget | I cannot either. |
| 23:17:51 | drs | cannot connect |
| 23:17:51 | Widget | BZFlag freezes when I try. |
| 23:17:57 | dinah | same here |
| 23:18:00 | Condon | me too - it freezes |
| 23:18:04 | drs | it stays in 'Trying...' |
| 23:18:17 | dinah | right right right :-( |
| 23:18:19 | Condon | ok, who wants the bash shell and do it? |
| 23:18:22 | jpablo | i'm there |
| 23:18:43 | drs | Condon: is the port 59000 and 59001 open? |
| 23:18:46 | jpablo | now it doesn't work. |
| 23:18:55 | MortimeR | I am in |
| 23:19:21 | Condon | now every port on firewall is open:-) |
| 23:19:36 | dinah | im in! ;) |
| 23:29:50 | jpablo | restart the game |
| 23:29:50 | dinah | i lost it! |
| 23:30:04 | jpablo | game is full or over |
| 23:30:08 | jpablo | restart the server |
| 23:30:19 | jpablo | ... |
| 23:30:29 | dinah | hello? |
| 23:30:32 | Condon | ? |
| 23:30:39 | Widget | OK. |
| 23:30:43 | jpablo | it says 'The Game is full or over' |
| 23:30:54 | dinah | must restart it... |
| 23:31:01 | jpablo | ... |
| 23:31:01 | Condon | should I restart the server? OK |
| 23:31:10 | taD_ | ?? |
| 23:31:14 | taD_ | the game is running |
| 23:31:15 | jpablo | go |
| 23:31:19 | taD_ | counting down |
| 23:31:28 | jpablo | error connecting to server |
| 23:31:28 | dinah | taD_; taDsnack |
| 23:31:31 | Widget | Error connecting to server. |
| 23:31:39 | Condon | hey, give me the command line!!! |
| 23:31:49 | Condon | I lost them in .bash_history |
| 23:31:56 | dinah | use : ./bzfs -cr -b -h -mp 0,3,3,0,0 -mo 4 -ms 2 +r -p 59000 -passwd xxxxx -requireudp -time 1800 -pr 590 |
| 23:32:11 | dinah | ok? |
| 23:32:13 | taD_ | I will be the ref |
| 23:32:24 | jpablo | ./bzfs -cr -b -h -mp 0,3,3,0,0 -mo 4 -ms 2 +r -p 59000 -passwd xxxxx -requireudp -time 1800 -pr 59001 |
| 23:32:25 | dinah | no not taD_ |
| 23:32:27 | taD_ | thanks dinah |
| 23:32:37 | dinah | ;) |
| 23:32:39 | taD_ | dinah: botsnack |
| 23:32:46 | Widget | Very well. |
| 23:32:50 | dinah | im not a bot... |
| 23:32:55 | Condon | ok - server is working with the same password |
| 23:33:03 | Widget | The proper server command is not on the website. |
| 23:33:06 | Widget | But I'll try. |
| 23:49:31 | Widget | There. |
| 23:49:38 | jpablo | that server was unplayable |
| 23:49:39 | dinah | odd things happening... |
| 23:49:46 | drs | damn. I can't even see one of my own teammates..!! |
| 23:49:58 | Condon | Is it my fault? |
| 23:49:59 | jpablo | why don't we play on ducati 59000, if it's gonna be unofficial we don't need a ref |
| 23:50:08 | drs | in this game lag was not the worst thing... |
| 23:50:15 | Condon | the server was mine... |
| 23:50:34 | drs | Condon: dunno, but the gamepaly sucked... |
| 23:50:52 | jpablo | why don't we play on ducati ? |
| 23:50:58 | drs | Widget: can you contact any of the ducati admins? |
| 23:51:08 | Widget | drs: Nope. They're all asleep. |
| 23:51:12 | Widget | drs: Or not here. |
| 23:51:24 | dinah | it is rather late, here and in germany |
| 23:51:44 | | thanks dinah :) |
| 23:51:44 | dinah | ibot: botsnack |
| 23:51:47 | drs | mhhh... |
| 23:52:01 | dinah | we could play sunday? |
| 23:52:07 | jpablo | so, why don't we play unofficialy on ducati 59000 |
| 23:52:19 | jpablo | the problem there was that no other person can join |
| 23:52:34 | jpablo | but if the game is unofficial then it doesn't really matter |
| 23:52:39 | drs | ok, then another day we'll play. |
| 23:52:59 | jpablo | ok. |
| 23:53:10 | dinah | we should talk to chestal about keeping a server ready |
| 23:53:15 | jpablo | ok, our team has decided to not play for today. |
| 23:53:40 | drs | dinah: how do you see our tanks? did you even see them? or it was lag...? |
| 23:54:01 | dinah | i saw them, then they'd dissapear and id se them again |
| 23:54:26 | dinah | like flashing christmas lights |
| 23:54:27 | Condon | it was randomly play |
| 23:54:46 | Widget | hihihihi, vogon_jeltz. |
| 23:55:01 | drs | damn. I didn't even see jpablo playing, he was like paused. If he get the flag, I didn't see the flag in the map. |
| 23:55:30 | dinah | it was, in a way, very amusing |
| 23:56:09 | drs | yeap, but not for a real playing. |
| 23:56:22 | dinah | oh yes, thats a given |
| 23:57:14 | Condon | can someone go to my server, get bzflag, compile it and run? Dinah, try again? |
| 23:57:34 | dinah | um alright |
| 23:59:38 | drs | apt-get install bzflag-server :) |
| 23:59:50 | Condon | it's Slackware:-) |
