irclog2html for bzflag on 2002.05.24

03:45:11vogon_jeltzis away: places, doing stuff with people and things.
06:04:39MrApathyCreamhey decks is back up.... dsl?
06:16:37captain_protonno - its on a server at my old high school
06:16:46captain_protonthe original decks server
06:17:18MrApathyCreamah
06:17:28MrApathyCreamour tax dollars at work!
06:17:54captain_protonactually that machine has been paid for completely via student and parent donations
06:23:11MrApathyCreamsort of a 'we'll forget about it this time' bribe for when you lite the teachers desk on fire?
06:23:54captain_protonhaha
06:23:59captain_protonnot really
06:24:11captain_protonmy friends and i started the server on an old machine, then it got upgraded and upgraded
06:24:20captain_protonnow its a pretty important machine
06:25:56MrApathyCreamwell, as it's quiet around here, guess i'll go off to bed early. (only 2:30)
06:26:10captain_protonwhoa
06:26:20captain_protongoing to bed early two nights in a row?
06:26:24captain_protonwhats wrong with you MrApathyCream?
06:26:40MrApathyCreamhah..
06:26:43vogon_jeltzI have such a fun life. *sigh*
06:26:59MrApathyCreamgoes off to sleep dreaming of md5 caching working on linux
06:27:05vogon_jeltzI'm spinning idly in my chair in a dimly-lit room, listening to Jefferson Airplane, and steeping in loneliness.
06:27:12captain_protonvogon_jeltz: therefore you should join the ranks of my new project!
06:27:54vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: sounds interesting.
06:28:01vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: do you have a specific job for me?
06:28:20captain_protoni need someone to help me with the 3d engine
06:28:26captain_protonbut first a protocol needs to be decided
06:28:56vogon_jeltzuse ICMP.
06:28:59captain_protoni'm thinking that transferring only visual/obstacle information is probably the best
06:29:05vogon_jeltzICMP PWNZ YUO.
06:29:06captain_protonas per 1.8 =)
06:29:14captain_protonso i can steal crs' l33t physics code
06:29:18vogon_jeltzbah, this is a BZFlag thing?
06:29:26captain_protonno not a bzflag thing
06:29:29captain_protoni just wanna steal code
06:29:32vogon_jeltzahh.
06:29:43vogon_jeltzthen what is it?
06:29:51vogon_jeltzand don't say something about a metaverse.
06:30:08captain_protonvirtual reality IRC?
06:30:13vogon_jeltzoh, OK.
06:30:19vogon_jeltz*that* Metaverse.
06:30:24captain_protonyeah yeah
06:30:47captain_protonwhat did you think i was talking about?
06:30:59vogon_jeltzI thought you just made up a word. :P
06:31:05captain_protonhaha
06:31:32captain_protonneal stephenson made up a word
06:31:34captain_protoni just used it
06:31:52vogon_jeltzactually, I'd rather work on my project, plzkthxbi.
06:32:28captain_protonhaha where'd you pick up the plzkthxbi stuff?
06:35:45captain_protonhmm
06:35:46captain_protonis bored
06:35:49vogon_jeltz#icculus.org.
06:36:01vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: wanna pitch in on my project?
06:36:13vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: it's OMG OMG SO HOT.
06:36:18captain_protonwhich? the MMORPG?
06:36:23vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: heh.
06:36:27vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: yeah.
06:36:33captain_protonmebbe
06:36:40vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: I need someone to do a client.
06:36:40captain_protonit'd be easier if i had internet in leenoox
06:36:56vogon_jeltzwhat, doesn't KPPP work?
06:37:20captain_protonhaha
06:37:25captain_protonmodem doesn't work
06:37:34vogon_jeltzWinModem?
06:37:38captain_protonas far as i can tell, they broke the serial pci code in 2.4.8+
06:37:50vogon_jeltzuhhhhh...
06:38:00vogon_jeltzI'm using a PCI modem here in 2.4.9-31.
06:38:01captain_protonat least for this device
06:38:37vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: lspci it, f00.
06:38:39captain_protoni get a redundant PCI entry, and it removes the wrong one from the PCI table, making it memory-map the wrong ports
06:39:00captain_protoni've lspci'ed, setpci'ed, setserial'ed, moved cards around, etc
06:39:13vogon_jeltzit removes a redundant PCI entry here, but it still works.
06:39:36captain_protonwell in a few (maybe 5) days 'twill be a moot point
06:39:45vogon_jeltzand it might help if I know what type of modem it si.
06:40:00captain_proton3com us robotics 56k serial pci
06:40:08vogon_jeltzI have one of those, too.
06:40:47captain_proton/dev/tts/4: Device or resource busy
06:41:38vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: disable the onboard serial port and try again.
06:41:50captain_protonhmm
06:41:50vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: that's what fix0red it on my box.
06:41:54captain_protoni've got nothing better to do
06:52:10captain_protonOMG LOL WFT
06:55:12captain_protondidn't work
06:57:43captain_protonblah
06:57:50captain_protoni'm gonna go try messing with the kernel again
07:08:14yoyoxChestal: :>
07:47:04captain_protonany other brilliant ideas?
07:56:02HEMIOk...BZFlag totally destroyed the gamma correction...Is there any way to fix it?
07:56:45captain_protonreboot
07:57:15captain_protonor write a program that sets the desired gamma and exits uncleanly
07:57:25HEMIReboot, I guess. :/
07:57:28HEMIThanks.
07:58:28captain_protonhmm
07:58:37captain_protonmy gauntlets in progress quest are ABS
07:59:20vogon_jeltzas in the unbreakable plastic.
07:59:37captain_protonexactly
07:59:46vogon_jeltzyeh.
07:59:47captain_protonand i have a level 1 Tumor (benign) in my spell book
07:59:50vogon_jeltzhahah.
08:00:08captain_protonhmm
08:00:13captain_protonjust executed a porn elemental
08:00:47captain_protonif this metaverse thing works out i shall have to make a porn elemental daemon
08:01:04vogon_jeltzhah.
08:01:11captain_proton<grins>
08:02:12vogon_jeltzw00t.
08:02:18vogon_jeltzfreeamp barfed on my gig of MP3s.
08:02:18captain_proton?
08:02:25captain_protonjust 1 gig?
08:02:28vogon_jeltzyeah.
08:02:40captain_protonhmm
08:02:58captain_protoni ought to finish my background manager rewrite
08:04:07HEMII finally ditched my VoodooIII. BZFlag just runs smooth as glass on a GF4. haha
08:04:32captain_protongf4 - what kind of framerates do you get?
08:05:25HEMII don't know...How do I measure?
08:05:30captain_protonpress t
08:05:39captain_protonthen look at the meter (will take a second or two to show up)
08:05:42HEMIHrm, let me fire it up and see...
08:07:43HEMIHeh, I re-mapped t to talk. any other way to view framerates?
08:08:34captain_protonyou might be able to remap it through your config file
08:08:57HEMIYeah, that's probably what I'll have to do.
08:09:58HEMIIs it not in the bzflag dir? I don't see any config files. :/
08:10:42captain_proton~/.bzflag
08:11:02HEMIIt's a windows box.
08:11:20captain_protonbzflag.bzc mabye?
08:12:51HEMIHeh...It's in My Documents. What an odd place.
08:13:20HEMIOh...And what's the absolute best renderer?
08:13:33captain_protonin what context?
08:13:49HEMIerrr
08:13:54HEMITexturer, not renderer, sorry...
08:14:02HEMIlinear mipmap linear, linear, etc.
08:14:11captain_protonoh texuring mode
08:14:41captain_protonlinear mipmap linear
08:14:47HEMIAh, okie.
08:15:04HEMIWhat am I looking for in the config file? I don't see anything that would indicate a display of status or framerate or anything.
08:15:16captain_protoni don't think its there by default =|
08:15:36captain_protonyou could remap talk temporarily
08:15:49HEMIstartcodebeabbbbdbbbcaa
08:15:51HEMIWhat the heck is that?
08:16:05HEMII don't care, I've got plenty of other keys to bind to...What's the key name I need to set?
08:16:19captain_protonno clue
08:16:49captain_protonin 1.8 its bind 'T' down 'toggle displayFPS' but this isn't 1.8
08:17:19HEMILet's try displayFPS to see what happens. The worst it can do is crash. :)
08:17:58captain_protonExecuting a massive Cheese Elemental...
08:19:08HEMINo luck. :/
08:19:30HEMIOh well, sorry. :/
08:23:41HEMIWhat "major" changes are you planning for 2.0?
08:24:55captain_protonwe're not really thinking about that
08:25:01captain_proton1.8 might become 2.0 depending
08:25:32HEMIAh. Backwards-compatible?
08:25:41captain_protonnope
08:25:48captain_proton1.8 is already incompatible with 1.7
08:25:59HEMINice. Harder to cheat now?
08:26:08captain_protonnot yet
08:28:42captain_protoni'm off for some programmering
15:08:26^johnanyone here?
15:12:06We are now enjoying total mutual interaction in an imaginary hot tub ...
15:12:06tad_ibot yow
15:15:11^john!list
18:29:18[TeA|TrEE]hello
18:29:24[TeA|TrEE];)
19:12:34jollyhello
19:29:55jollylol, very quiet
19:38:31Chestalyes, quite quiet :-)
19:38:41jollyhey Ches!
19:38:46Chestalwill be right back, must look after my tea
19:38:58jollyk
19:40:55jollyit turns out you can only use mIRC for a trial of 30 days :-/
19:41:13jollyso now i am using trillian
19:42:58Chestaloh! I guess mirc sucks anyway
21:40:03Chestalhi Tim
22:42:55Chestalthose evil bugs
22:43:19captain_protonsighs @ GOBBLES
22:57:14MrApathyCreamsniffs for lurkers
23:08:05Chestaloh well, cannot really isolat ethe bug by lookign at the source
23:08:20Chestalwill have to try and run the server in debug mode or with additional diagnostics tomorrow
23:13:03MrApathyCreamhmm
23:13:55Chestalmore details on the bug:
23:14:04Chestalplayer slot 0 is occupied by a player
23:14:13Chestalnext player will get error (slot 1)
23:14:25Chestalbzfs says error on write: bad address
23:14:45MrApathyCreamprobsbly a memory alloc failure no?
23:14:46Chestalthis means, that prealwrite() tries to access a bad address (0?)
23:15:03Chestaleither it's the cause of some memory corruption
23:15:29Chestalor the problem is that the message outqueue hasn't been reset for soem reason
23:15:50ChestalI think there s a tiny bug in removeplayer: it shoudl reset outmsgsize to 0
23:16:00Chestalbut that#s probably nt the cause

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