| 00:00:02 | M_A_C | Just when you quit, or just when you switch servers, or both? |
| 00:01:03 | Chestal | both |
| 00:01:14 | Chestal | it crashes in leavegame, when deletign obstaclelist |
| 00:01:24 | Chestal | hmm, I guess I found a bug in the team score sorting |
| 00:01:29 | Chestal | not a critical one, thoigh |
| 00:03:25 | Chestal | hmm, nope, I guess it's correct |
| 00:08:21 | MrApathyCream | Does it crash on obstacleList[0]? |
| 00:08:31 | Chestal | haven't checked yet |
| 00:08:57 | MrApathyCream | would probably give insight |
| 00:08:59 | Chestal | do you have current e5 code running? |
| 00:09:15 | Chestal | you coudl check if it crashes for you, too, althoguh I doubt it |
| 00:09:32 | MrApathyCream | I'll check |
| 00:09:42 | MrApathyCream | ducati 5156? |
| 00:10:17 | Chestal | yes |
| 00:10:32 | MrApathyCream | <ok will run in debug, to check heap> |
| 00:10:45 | MrApathyCream | <one sec, compiling debug> |
| 00:13:06 | Chestal | it's intersting that I can reproduce it so well |
| 00:13:10 | Chestal | mabe it's related tothe map |
| 00:13:35 | Chestal | oh my, it's late |
| 00:14:09 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 00:14:19 | MrApathyCream | random map? |
| 00:14:23 | Chestal | yes |
| 00:15:16 | Chestal | crashes on obstacle 93 |
| 00:15:21 | MrApathyCream | erg, can't connect, too much ip traffic going on from my machine at moment... Will check later |
| 00:15:22 | Chestal | with index 93 |
| 00:15:30 | MrApathyCream | hmm. and obstacle 93 is type? |
| 00:15:45 | Chestal | I have no clue so far |
| 00:16:53 | vogon_jeltz | what game mode? |
| 00:17:01 | MrApathyCream | could always inject a class level operator new() to allocate from buffer to check heap state of obstacles |
| 00:18:10 | Chestal | ctf |
| 00:18:21 | Chestal | checking if ~region crashes |
| 00:19:07 | Chestal | oh, it does |
| 00:20:11 | Chestal | I don't know what a region is, but they are interconnected |
| 00:20:54 | Chestal | neighbors[i]->setNeighbor(this, 0); crashes here |
| 00:23:38 | MrApathyCream | what are regions used for other than robots? |
| 00:24:14 | Chestal | I have no clue |
| 00:24:27 | Chestal | loosk as if the interlinking gets corrupted somehow |
| 00:25:10 | Chestal | region 93's third neighbour tries to set its link to 93 to null |
| 00:25:20 | Chestal | but obviously, the third neighbour has no links |
| 00:25:32 | Chestal | I guess the links should be symmetric, so something is wrong |
| 00:26:04 | Chestal | they migh tbe used only for bots |
| 00:26:10 | Chestal | are bots workign at all? |
| 00:26:15 | Chestal | didn't try them for ages |
| 00:27:12 | MrApathyCream | no was wrong... obstacles too |
| 00:27:40 | Chestal | I didn't see a use of obstaclelist that was not for bots |
| 00:28:20 | MrApathyCream | yeah, hmmm, difficult to follow |
| 00:29:22 | Chestal | I think the regions are the open spaces in the map? |
| 00:29:38 | Chestal | each obstacle splits one region into n subregions which are interconnected |
| 00:29:43 | Chestal | for robot path-finding |
| 00:33:18 | Chestal | looks like 93 links to an overwritten or already deleted node |
| 00:36:06 | Chestal | hmm, intersting |
| 00:36:19 | Chestal | the code uses some epsilon of 1e-5 at two lines |
| 00:36:26 | Chestal | when I change that to e-6 the crash goes away |
| 00:39:41 | MrApathyCream | huh |
| 00:41:03 | Chestal | tidy() looks dangerous |
| 00:41:13 | Chestal | it removes degenerate edges |
| 00:41:22 | Chestal | that is edges which are very short |
| 00:41:41 | Chestal | I wonder if it is pisoible that there are regions r1 and r2 which are neighbours |
| 00:41:49 | Chestal | and then the edge is removed for only one of the neighbours |
| 00:42:13 | Chestal | they should share this common edge, but their migh tbe problems when the coordninates for the vertices are not100% identical |
| 00:46:44 | Chestal | ok |
| 00:46:46 | Chestal | e4 crashes, too |
| 00:47:13 | Chestal | looks liek some nasty floating point precision problem which causes the region neighbor pointers to get messed up |
| 00:47:32 | Chestal | won't fix this now, as it is an old bug, will just write a bug report |
| 00:48:59 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 00:51:27 | Chestal | guess I'll do that tomorrow, 3 am here, good night |
| 00:54:06 | MrApathyCream | heh nitenite |
| 02:48:50 | Widget | Hello, hello! |
| 02:48:57 | Widget | And greetings to all! |
| 02:49:00 | Widget | Is anyone here? |
| 02:49:10 | | thanks Widget :) |
| 02:49:10 | Widget | ibot: botsnack |
| 02:49:13 | | :) |
| 02:49:13 | Widget | ibot: botsnack |
| 02:55:52 | Widget | hihihi, jpablo. |
| 02:55:56 | jpablo | hey. |
| 02:55:56 | Widget | Want to play on ducati? |
| 02:56:08 | jpablo | not now i'm preparing a class. |
| 03:28:16 | Widget | Tee Yo. |
| 10:44:50 | _MIRELLA_ | salve |
| 14:52:37 | ^john | anyone here? |
| 17:12:46 | | bonjour, ^john |
| 17:12:46 | ^john | hello |
| 17:12:57 | Chestal | hi Tim, jh |
| 17:13:05 | ^john | hi |
| 17:13:20 | ^john | i posted bzmail to team today |
| 17:13:32 | ^john | maybe they will see it by sunday... |
| 17:13:35 | Chestal | ah, care to join cell for a moment to test our lag? |
| 17:13:45 | ^john | ok |
| 17:13:56 | Chestal | cu there |
| 17:17:05 | ^john | no cell in serverlist... |
| 17:17:07 | Chestal | looks liek it isn't up |
| 17:17:11 | ^john | yep |
| 17:17:24 | Chestal | my lag there was around 180ms on average |
| 17:17:28 | ^john | oh |
| 17:17:35 | Chestal | I fear that lupi's and tanman's lag will be too high there |
| 17:17:45 | ^john | hmm |
| 17:18:10 | ^john | lag is hard issue |
| 17:18:38 | Chestal | the hardest |
| 17:18:54 | ^john | yes especially on contests |
| 17:19:11 | Chestal | we will have to live with latencys of 100-200ms |
| 17:19:18 | Chestal | a lot of people lag more, though |
| 17:19:21 | ^john | yes |
| 17:19:34 | Chestal | I just hope that the new version will help the modem people a little |
| 17:19:46 | ^john | how about adsl? |
| 17:20:10 | Chestal | problem with German TDSL is, that it is not optimized for low-latency |
| 17:20:20 | Chestal | they're usign interleaved mode, which add about 40ms I guess |
| 17:20:31 | ^john | oh |
| 17:20:36 | ^john | i use adsl |
| 17:20:46 | Chestal | migh tbe different for you |
| 17:20:53 | ^john | yep |
| 17:20:54 | Chestal | it depends on the mode your provider uses |
| 17:21:38 | Chestal | yoyox is from poland? |
| 17:21:49 | ^john | i don't know |
| 17:22:02 | Chestal | his lag is very unpredictable, sometimes it's good and then again it's _very_ bad |
| 17:22:21 | ^john | i think they should read they mailboxes more often |
| 17:22:26 | ^john | their |
| 17:22:37 | ^john | yoyox and zeus |
| 17:22:50 | Chestal | no team replied to our challenge so far |
| 17:22:57 | Chestal | did you see that the compsocs want to play? |
| 17:23:10 | ^john | hmm no |
| 17:23:24 | Chestal | but they want to play each other |
| 17:23:34 | ^john | oh |
| 17:24:05 | ^john | well |
| 17:24:22 | ^john | just have to see if anyone replies to my message |
| 17:25:00 | Chestal | yep, and maybe we'll meet some of them on the battlefield |
| 17:25:08 | ^john | yes |
| 17:25:30 | ^john | i haven't seen zeus or yoyox for some time |
| 17:25:42 | Chestal | saw yoyox yesterday I think |
| 17:25:45 | ^john | oh |
| 17:25:45 | Chestal | but he lagged very bad |
| 17:25:54 | Chestal | might also have been on Sunday, I'm not sure |
| 17:26:03 | ^john | is there laglimit in leaguematches? |
| 17:27:07 | ^john | well anyway have to go |
| 17:27:13 | ^john | cu |
| 18:05:04 | Chestal | hi proton |
| 18:07:44 | captain_proton | hi |
| 18:52:03 | | salut, Multitronic |
| 18:52:03 | Multitronic | Hi |
| 19:02:01 | Chestal | hi ginku |
| 19:02:11 | Ginku | Hallo :-) |
| 19:02:23 | Multitronic | Hi Ginku |
| 19:02:58 | Ginku | i'am trying again a little IRC chat ..... |
| 19:03:36 | Chestal | just dare to, it doesn't hurt :-) |
| 19:03:53 | Ginku | lol |
| 19:04:41 | Ginku | what about the mole challenge on saturday ? |
| 19:04:48 | Chestal | it's on sunday |
| 19:05:10 | Chestal | jh sent theother frogs a message, read it? |
| 19:05:26 | Ginku | sorry okay, not yet |
| 19:05:42 | Ginku | I was invited to a barbecue |
| 19:06:18 | Ginku | I heard the moles were successful ;-) |
| 19:06:26 | Chestal | ehm, ah, you're talkign about the past? |
| 19:06:32 | Chestal | well, jh+valoche were there |
| 19:06:40 | Chestal | and MUltitronic joined them |
| 19:06:47 | Chestal | so it was moles vs. frogs/rats |
| 19:07:23 | Ginku | aha - and next game shall be next sunday ? |
| 19:07:40 | Chestal | yep, best to read the challneges forum on the league page and your private messages there, too |
| 19:08:18 | Ginku | I did -of course in the morning in my office |
| 19:08:46 | Chestal | so, we moles proposed to play on sunday against any team |
| 19:09:49 | Ginku | I have to ask my wife for dates on sunday (she`s squashing at the moment) then I`ll contact Valoche |
| 19:10:20 | Ginku | only against one team ? |
| 19:10:40 | Chestal | if there are more teams, each team can oplay against each other once |
| 19:11:04 | Ginku | not together against the moles :-)) |
| 19:11:12 | Chestal | nope :-) |
| 19:11:21 | Chestal | well, the froot loops migh tbe there, who knows |
| 19:11:34 | Ginku | nice lol |
| 19:11:42 | Chestal | didn't hear anythign from the zees lately, they're probably afraid of the moles |
| 19:11:59 | Chestal | the rats migh tjoin, too, but only very late |
| 19:12:07 | Ginku | maybe - why should they ? |
| 19:12:20 | Chestal | ginku: btw., jh wants to play on a different server |
| 19:12:30 | Multitronic | Well, not me. I am on holidays :-) |
| 19:12:36 | Chestal | he thinks we German moles have an advantage because we lag less onducati |
| 19:12:51 | Chestal | Multitronic: sailing in Turkey, IIRC? |
| 19:13:01 | Multitronic | You koow already |
| 19:13:28 | Chestal | ginku: he proposed m0nkey's server (cell), but lupi said his lag was >300ms there last time |
| 19:14:07 | Ginku | does have monkey a ctf server ? |
| 19:14:14 | Chestal | sometimes |
| 19:14:20 | Chestal | wasn't up 30 minutes ago |
| 19:14:26 | Ginku | ah |
| 19:15:32 | Ginku | is ducati server (5556) taken at the moment |
| 19:15:58 | Chestal | 4 players there |
| 19:16:02 | Chestal | 5156 |
| 19:16:11 | Ginku | sorry again |
| 19:16:46 | Ginku | i think I try some shots and test monkeys server ...cu.. |
| 19:17:20 | Chestal | ok |
| 19:20:46 | Multitronic | is away: I'm busy |
| 19:21:25 | lupinator | merhaba |
| 19:22:16 | Chestal | hi lupi |
| 19:22:22 | Chestal | BZFlag: are you there? |
| 19:34:20 | Chestal | well, later |
| 20:24:43 | Ginku | puh that was a nice fight again....I`m sweat..now drinking some beer.... |
| 20:25:25 | Ginku | Chestal: are you there ? |
| 20:29:00 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 20:29:02 | captain_proton | root |
| 20:29:24 | Ginku | that was me on another client |
| 20:30:04 | Ginku | :-) I`ll try different irc-progs |
| 21:16:00 | ^john | is chestal here? |
| 21:16:21 | Chestal | goes looking for Chestal |
| 21:16:30 | ^john | cell is in ducati |
| 21:16:43 | Chestal | oh |
| 21:16:55 | ^john | under name majin boo |
| 21:20:56 | ^john | well sorry to bother u |
| 21:20:59 | ^john | heh |
| 22:02:40 | T-34 | hello everybody! |
| 22:03:23 | T-34 | bye |
| 23:53:14 | nuum | sup |