| 00:29:33 | captain_proton | found a slab of meat? |
| 00:30:19 | mackstann- | captain_proton: your map editor is working quite nicely :) |
| 00:30:41 | captain_proton | why thank you |
| 00:31:28 | mackstann- | i have been making a crazy ass map |
| 00:31:50 | mackstann- | theres a big floating block in the middle, and these stair steps around the side to get up on top of it |
| 00:32:09 | mackstann- | and a big long box, waaaaaaaaaaay up in the sky, that you can teleport to :P |
| 00:38:07 | MrApathyCream | team counts? |
| 00:38:48 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 00:38:57 | captain_proton | i changed the background to 0.3 black again |
| 00:38:59 | MrApathyCream | lazy... |
| 00:39:20 | captain_proton | because the colored one was quite painful (not to mention very difficult to read your own messages) |
| 00:42:10 | MrApathyCream | fine ... but team counts? |
| 00:43:08 | captain_proton | hah |
| 00:48:56 | MrApathyCream | i'd still like better recognition of what my color is. |
| 01:13:27 | vogon_jeltz | is away: stuff. |
| 01:18:39 | | vogon_jeltz was last seen on #bzflag 5 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: is away: stuff. [Sun May 5 02:13:27 2002] |
| 01:18:39 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen vogon_jeltz? |
| 01:18:50 | | either on a date, or killing arms smugglers. |
| 01:18:50 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen_vogon_jeltz? |
| 01:34:41 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 01:34:53 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 02:03:50 | arathorn | hi all |
| 02:04:06 | arathorn | all sleep or some are wake up? |
| 05:54:21 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 04:40:53) |
| 06:39:29 | vogon_jeltz | is away: SNL. |
| 12:55:47 | m0nG00sE_mAn | lo |
| 13:07:15 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 13:43:26 | Chestal | re |
| 13:51:09 | Chestal | ibot x es en Lo siento mi vida |
| 13:51:13 | | Chestal: I feel my life |
| 13:57:44 | scanline | is away: ZzZz |
| 17:28:32 | Widget | Saluete, omnes! |
| 17:42:45 | arathorn | hi all knights |
| 17:46:30 | Widget | Noights? |
| 17:54:08 | Widget | Methinks no one is here but me. |
| 17:58:57 | Widget | Jacques Chirac won the elections! |
| 18:02:49 | Widget | Yaaaaaay! Down with Le Pen! |
| 18:03:21 | Chestal | what are the numbers? |
| 18:05:30 | Widget | They said it was a "landslide". |
| 18:05:41 | Widget | Le Pen issued a statement saying it was a victory for "socialists". |
| 18:05:54 | Widget | And thanking those who votes for him for doing so, and to continue doing so in the future. |
| 18:06:10 | Chestal | 82% according to very early numbers |
| 18:06:19 | Widget | Wow.... very nice. |
| 18:06:22 | Widget | Very nice indeed. :) |
| 18:06:33 | Chestal | that's still 18% for Le Pen |
| 18:06:47 | Widget | Yes, that's about how many voted for him in the first round, yes? |
| 18:06:54 | Chestal | I think so |
| 18:08:01 | Widget | Where did you get the numbers? |
| 18:08:31 | Chestal | www.spiegel.de |
| 18:08:52 | Chestal | it's a projection that's not based on counted votes |
| 18:09:01 | Widget | Ah. |
| 18:09:34 | TexasHunter | (I |
| 18:09:42 | TexasHunter | (I'll be back in 30 min.) |
| 18:09:48 | Widget | Chu estas traduko esperanta au franca? Au la pli bona, angla? |
| 18:12:37 | Chestal | is that Spanish or Esperanto? |
| 18:13:04 | Widget | Esperanto. |
| 18:13:14 | | Chestal: what? |
| 18:13:14 | Chestal | ibot doesn't speak this, I guess |
| 18:13:32 | Widget | I thought ibot was fluent in 6 million forms of communication. |
| 18:13:41 | Widget | Wait..... that's C3PO. |
| 18:13:43 | Chestal | ibot, is that correct? |
| 18:13:53 | Chestal | ibot is dumb |
| 18:13:54 | Widget | Hm.... it seems Le Pen got 27%... I'm not sure. |
| 18:14:07 | Widget | I wasn't paying attention to the radio. And there's lots of static. |
| 18:15:54 | Widget | We should have a system like the French. |
| 18:16:31 | Widget | Coalitions aren't good. |
| 18:16:48 | Chestal | we'll have elections this autumn here in Germany |
| 18:16:55 | Chestal | and all our parties suck |
| 18:18:04 | Widget | Recently, they reformed the election system in New Zealand. So now no one knows how the elections work any more. |
| 18:18:15 | Widget | Hm.... Le Pen accuses Chirac of "Soviet tactics". |
| 18:18:17 | Chestal | I wish we had a more complex system |
| 18:18:32 | Chestal | we have two votes: one vote for a candidate and one ote for a party |
| 18:18:41 | Chestal | the vote for the party is the more important one |
| 18:18:47 | Widget | Yes, us too. |
| 18:19:04 | Chestal | I'd like to be able to distribute points over several parties or something |
| 18:19:39 | Widget | Every county has a candidate. And the party submits lists of other members. Then, whoever wins the county elections goes to Parliament, then the other seats are distributed among the other parties proportionately. |
| 18:19:45 | Chestal | well, still 4-5 months to go, maybe something happens in that time that will let me know who to vote |
| 18:20:03 | Chestal | Widget: sounds like our system |
| 18:20:20 | Widget | Chestal: Horrible, isn't it? |
| 18:20:26 | Chestal | Widget: I think it's ok |
| 18:20:32 | Chestal | the US or Biritsh systems suck |
| 18:20:47 | Widget | Yes, we used to have the British system. |
| 18:20:47 | Chestal | they're using per-state or per-county majorities |
| 18:20:51 | Chestal | it's just not fair |
| 18:20:55 | Widget | Only we have only one house of representatives. |
| 18:21:00 | Widget | Does Germany still have two houses? |
| 18:21:06 | Chestal | no |
| 18:21:11 | Chestal | I think we never had |
| 18:21:36 | Chestal | and our Kanzler is elected by the representatives |
| 18:21:40 | Widget | Reichstag and Reichstrat? |
| 18:21:45 | Widget | Loooooong ago? |
| 18:21:45 | Chestal | no direct election as in France or in the US |
| 18:21:52 | Chestal | ah, yes |
| 18:21:58 | Chestal | we have a Bundestag and a Bundesrat |
| 18:22:41 | Widget | I think we should have mandatory voting like the Australians. |
| 18:22:58 | Chestal | the Bundesrat is constituted by takign the states into account |
| 18:23:16 | Chestal | each state (Land) has its own government |
| 18:23:53 | Chestal | and whenever the Bund (central government) changes some important laws, the Bundesrat must ratify it |
| 18:25:11 | Widget | Which is the more powerful house? |
| 18:25:11 | Chestal | how many peopel are their in New Zealand? |
| 18:25:34 | Chestal | the Bundestag is more important |
| 18:25:40 | Widget | About three and a half million. |
| 18:25:46 | Chestal | oh, that's not so much |
| 18:25:50 | Widget | Nope. |
| 18:26:14 | Widget | But the country itself is small. |
| 18:26:31 | Chestal | so, how many represantatives are there? 50? 100? |
| 18:26:46 | Widget | 120. |
| 18:26:55 | Chestal | I don't know how many we've got actually |
| 18:27:21 | Chestal | I guess about 650 |
| 18:27:36 | Widget | That's a lot. |
| 18:28:29 | Chestal | wel, we've got about 80 million people |
| 18:28:50 | Widget | The British Parliament has fewer people, and they have what? 115 million people? |
| 18:29:04 | Chestal | no, I think they only have about 60 Million, I'll check |
| 18:29:21 | Chestal | 58-59 Million |
| 18:29:29 | Widget | Ah, right you are. |
| 18:29:47 | Widget | Well, the United States has 500 or so total, I think. |
| 18:29:53 | Chestal | before the reunification we only had slightly more people than them |
| 18:30:01 | Chestal | your numbers are big :-) |
| 18:30:04 | Chestal | I guess 250 Million |
| 18:30:07 | Widget | Yes, the UK are very densely populated. |
| 18:30:15 | Widget | No, I meant 500 representatives for the US. |
| 18:30:19 | Chestal | ah, sorry |
| 18:30:23 | Widget | And the US has something like 275 million people. |
| 18:30:37 | Chestal | yes, but their individual states have more power |
| 18:30:49 | Chestal | and they have two real houses |
| 18:31:38 | Chestal | our Bundesrat only meets for important decisions from time to time and each state has a certain number of votes |
| 18:31:57 | Widget | I don't know why the UK still has two houses. |
| 18:32:06 | Chestal | but their election system is ridiculous, which showed last time |
| 18:32:12 | Widget | Haha, yes. |
| 18:32:15 | Chestal | it's all tradition int he UK I guess |
| 18:32:23 | Widget | Hello, sure. |
| 18:32:23 | Chestal | hi sure |
| 18:32:37 | sure | hey guys |
| 18:32:38 | Chestal | Widget: are you using any kind of election machines or something? |
| 18:33:26 | Widget | Chestal: I don't know, since I'm not old enough to vote. :) |
| 18:35:01 | Widget | Chestal: Are you? |
| 18:35:29 | Widget | Hello, BeZee and TexasHunter. |
| 18:35:37 | BeZee | hi |
| 18:35:51 | TexasHunter | howdy |
| 18:36:12 | TexasHunter | are we on for a match in 20 minutes -- TLZ verses ??? |
| 18:36:29 | Widget | TexasHunter: What's your callsign? |
| 18:36:39 | BeZee | Equipo Hispano |
| 18:36:59 | TexasHunter | I don't understand the question -- Texas Hunter (in bzflag) |
| 18:37:00 | Widget | Ooh... I want to watch! |
| 18:37:12 | Widget | TexasHunter: Are you in TLZ? |
| 18:37:18 | Chestal | Widget: I ahve been for 12 years |
| 18:37:20 | TexasHunter | yes. |
| 18:37:51 | Widget | Chestal: Are elections electronic? |
| 18:37:58 | Widget | TexasHunter: Wonderful! Can I watch? |
| 18:38:06 | Chestal | Widget: no, you just use a pencil |
| 18:38:16 | Widget | Chestal: Is it read by computer? |
| 18:38:30 | Chestal | Widget: no, it's all manual |
| 18:38:43 | Widget | Chestal: That's what they started doing in Canada. |
| 18:38:48 | Widget | Chestal: After what happened to the Americans. |
| 18:40:19 | Widget | Hi, arathorn. |
| 18:40:24 | Widget | BRB. |
| 18:40:27 | BeZee | hi |
| 18:40:45 | arathorn | hi all knights:) |
| 18:41:49 | TexasHunter | howdy fanta |
| 18:41:55 | FantaZee | hello :) |
| 18:41:56 | BeZee | chestal: server is ready? |
| 18:42:07 | BeZee | hi fanta |
| 18:42:13 | FantaZee | you should know it ches |
| 18:42:29 | FantaZee | args |
| 18:42:33 | arathorn | i'm only his here?????? |
| 18:42:35 | TexasHunter | Do we need to do anything different -- normal ducati + regular port #, or a special port # ??? |
| 18:42:41 | Chestal | I can start the server soon |
| 18:42:47 | Chestal | when do you want to play? at 21:00? |
| 18:42:53 | FantaZee | jau |
| 18:42:54 | BeZee | port#? |
| 18:42:58 | Chestal | it will be on port 59876 |
| 18:43:06 | FantaZee | wie war das abi ? |
| 18:43:17 | arathorn | ok |
| 18:44:01 | BeZee | the tlzīs wantīs to be grEEn |
| 18:45:05 | arathorn | i will go on ducati looking for other his members |
| 18:51:10 | FantaZee | texas: come to ducati normal port green |
| 18:55:05 | Chestal | ok, you can join now on 59876 |
| 18:55:10 | Chestal | have youi agreed on team colours? |
| 18:56:24 | BeZee | tlzīs wantīs to be grEEn .. but thatīs no agreement, just my wish |
| 18:56:53 | sure | are observers allowed? |
| 18:58:05 | Chestal | some, yes |
| 19:03:06 | Widget | May I see? |
| 19:03:09 | Widget | Observe, I mean? |
| 19:04:43 | Chestal | widget: match willbe on port 59876 |
| 19:04:53 | Chestal | joni as @observer purple, but I guess the game is full |
| 19:17:11 | Widget | Curses. It _is_ full. |
| 19:23:18 | tad | HEY! |
| 19:23:21 | tad | anyone there? |
| 19:23:47 | tad | bzflag bosses..... hey therer from bzflag !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 lol |
| 19:23:52 | tad | oops |
| 19:23:54 | tad | lol |
| 19:23:58 | | chestal was last seen on #bzflag 19 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying: joni as @observer purple, but I guess the game is full [Sun May 5 20:04:53 2002] |
| 19:23:58 | tad | ibot seen chestal |
| 19:24:21 | tad | hello togetehjr [TeA|] is aswell there |
| 19:24:38 | | ... I see TOILET SEATS ... |
| 19:24:38 | tad | ibot yow |
| 19:24:46 | | I wish I was a sex-starved manicurist found dead in the Bronx!! |
| 19:24:46 | tad | ibot yow |
| 19:25:30 | TexasHunter | CU lateR!! |
| 19:32:26 | [TeA|TrEE | hello |
| 19:32:27 | tad | HEY! |
| 19:32:28 | [TeA|TrEE | :)) |
| 19:32:30 | tad | :) |
| 19:32:36 | [TeA|TrEE | tad |
| 19:32:37 | [TeA|TrEE | :)) |
| 19:32:51 | | [tea|tree] is nothing but an imp-bladdereddle-headed thimbleful of dread-bolted pond scum. |
| 19:32:51 | tad | ibot insult [tea|tree] |
| 19:32:51 | [TeA|TrEE | oh |
| 19:33:01 | tad | :) |
| 19:33:11 | captain_proton | hey [TeA|TrEE - can you do me a favor on the league site? |
| 19:33:12 | [TeA|TrEE | having a showr |
| 19:33:18 | tad | ? |
| 19:33:19 | [TeA|TrEE | yes what |
| 19:33:24 | [TeA|TrEE | shower |
| 19:33:28 | tad | what? |
| 19:33:33 | [TeA|TrEE | captain_proton :)))))) |
| 19:33:42 | tad | ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() |
| 19:33:43 | T-34 | Hi tankriders! |
| 19:33:46 | [TeA|TrEE | löl |
| 19:33:50 | | T-34 is nothing but an headless ooze of puking bat toenails. |
| 19:33:50 | tad | ibot insult T-34 |
| 19:33:56 | captain_proton | [TeA|TrEE: your username has -=[BiD]=- in it - it should not |
| 19:34:01 | [TeA|TrEE | oh |
| 19:34:06 | [TeA|TrEE | wait |
| 19:34:11 | tad | yea |
| 19:34:26 | T-34 | is asking what a hell did he wrong ?! |
| 19:34:30 | captain_proton | [TeA|TrEE: also, does the team name need to have both -=[Believed in Death]=- and -=[BiD]=- in it? |
| 19:34:55 | | ibot is nothing but a salty petrification of rank guano. |
| 19:34:55 | tad | ibot insult ibot |
| 19:34:59 | | Can you MAIL a BEAN CAKE? |
| 19:34:59 | tad | ibot yow |
| 19:35:11 | [TeA|TrEE | done |
| 19:35:15 | [TeA|TrEE | finisched |
| 19:35:16 | [TeA|TrEE | :)) |
| 19:35:19 | tad | :) |
| 19:35:24 | [TeA|TrEE | wait |
| 19:35:24 | T-34 | don't understand |
| 19:35:31 | [TeA|TrEE | tad |
| 19:35:34 | tad | I started *a* :) |
| 19:35:36 | [TeA|TrEE | why did you go from team |
| 19:35:42 | tad | dunno |
| 19:35:46 | [TeA|TrEE | ? |
| 19:35:50 | tad | I liked *a* better |
| 19:35:50 | T-34 | think that maybe is too stupid for ibot |
| 19:35:52 | tad | ;) |
| 19:36:06 | | T-34 is nothing but an hugger-muggered heap of mammering yoo-hoo. |
| 19:36:06 | tad | ibot insult T-34 |
| 19:36:23 | [TeA|TrEE | captain done both |
| 19:36:29 | tad | ? |
| 19:36:34 | tad | what? |
| 19:36:34 | captain_proton | thanks |
| 19:36:42 | tad | is a tank kill |
| 19:36:48 | tad | er |
| 19:36:54 | [TeA|TrEE | is having a shower |
| 19:36:57 | [TeA|TrEE | c ya |
| 19:36:58 | tad | LOL {} |
| 19:37:00 | tad | ok |
| 19:37:01 | [TeA|TrEE | :)) |
| 19:37:01 | tad | me too |
| 19:37:04 | tad | l8r |
| 19:37:21 | T-34 | think that ibot must ask his mamma about her private life |
| 19:37:56 | T-34 | Chestal? |
| 19:41:36 | T-34 | Fantaaaaaaaa |
| 19:41:40 | Riseman | hi all |
| 19:41:44 | tad | hey |
| 19:41:46 | tad | ok |
| 19:41:47 | T-34 | Hi Riseman! |
| 19:41:54 | Riseman | hey T :)))) |
| 19:42:00 | T-34 | The match? |
| 19:42:06 | tad | sticking #bzflag into the minimize bar :) |
| 19:42:09 | T-34 | I'm drunk! |
| 19:42:12 | tad | l8r d00ds |
| 19:42:15 | Riseman | xDD |
| 19:42:21 | tad | 8-X |
| 19:42:24 | tad | =:-} |
| 19:42:26 | | My mind is a potato field ... |
| 19:42:26 | tad | ibot yow |
| 19:42:38 | | T-43 is nothing but a plume-plucked petrification of beef-witted seagull puke. |
| 19:42:38 | tad | ibot insult T-43 |
| 19:42:40 | | T-34: excuse me? |
| 19:42:40 | T-34 | ibot: we saw that |
| 19:42:51 | | Hiccuping & trembling into the WASTE DUMPS of New Jersey like some drunken CABBAGE PATCH DOLL, coughing in line at FIORUCCI'S!! |
| 19:42:51 | tad | ibot yow |
| 19:42:55 | captain_proton | tad: leave ibot alone |
| 19:42:58 | | T-34: sorry... |
| 19:42:58 | T-34 | ibot: about your mind |
| 19:43:01 | tad | ok |
| 19:43:13 | tad | <sniff> |
| 19:43:22 | T-34 | Riseman: will be the match or not? |
| 19:43:40 | captain_proton | tad: you can do it in PM, but its awfully annoying in channel |
| 19:43:45 | Riseman | T-34: ummm i don't know... |
| 19:43:45 | | T-34: huh? |
| 19:43:45 | T-34 | ibot: I think at your excuses |
| 19:43:55 | tad | ibot, dns heckamangroup.com |
| 19:43:55 | | heckamangroup.com is 63.148.224.4 |
| 19:44:02 | tad | oops |
| 19:44:06 | tad | wrong windows |
| 19:44:49 | T-34 | Riseman: Fantazee didn't answer |
| 19:45:02 | tad | x? |
| 19:45:24 | Riseman | T-34: ummm i think that if the two teams is here, we can play no? :) |
| 19:45:40 | T-34 | I have some guests and we have a lot to drink so... |
| 19:45:52 | tad | I am out of this...... |
| 19:45:53 | tad | l8r |
| 19:45:59 | T-34 | at what timr the match must start? |
| 19:46:20 | Riseman | i don't know :? |
| 19:46:36 | T-34 | what time is in Spain? |
| 19:47:04 | Riseman | now, 21:52 |
| 19:47:06 | Riseman | :) |
| 19:47:15 | T-34 | here 22:50 |
| 19:47:40 | T-34 | and Fanta said something about 21:00 CET |
| 19:47:52 | T-34 | that means now? |
| 19:48:02 | T-34 | in 10 min. |
| 19:48:21 | Riseman | ummm arf true :D |
| 19:48:43 | Riseman | jei satan :) |
| 19:48:45 | [HIS]_SATAN | hi team |
| 19:49:09 | T-34 | Hi Devil |
| 19:49:25 | [HIS]_SATAN | is the match today? |
| 19:49:58 | T-34 | Don't know yet! |
| 19:50:14 | T-34 | this is what I talked with Riseman |
| 19:53:24 | tad | hmmm |
| 20:01:08 | T-34 | hopes ibot as nothing against russian tanks ! |
| 20:01:17 | T-34 | Bye all! |
| 20:01:26 | Riseman | bye T-34 :))) |
| 20:03:28 | [TeA|TrEE | back |
| 20:04:47 | [TeA|TrEE | 7,8 (8,7)4,7(7,4)5,4(4,5)1,5(5,1)8,1==>9,1 BZFlag RuleZ 8,1<== 5,1(1,5)4,5(5,4)7,4(4,7)8,7(7,8) |
| 20:04:52 | [TeA|TrEE | :)) |
| 20:05:38 | Chestal | re |
| 20:06:27 | Chestal | heh, HIS-guys |
| 20:06:30 | Chestal | you were late |
| 20:06:33 | Chestal | match was one hour ago |
| 20:06:37 | Chestal | and only arathorn was there |
| 20:06:49 | Riseman | one hour ago?? |
| 20:06:50 | captain_proton | ahh ahh the color it hurts |
| 20:07:01 | Riseman | shit! x( |
| 20:07:03 | Chestal | it was on 19:00 UTC |
| 20:07:10 | FantaZee | or 2100 cet |
| 20:07:25 | FantaZee | now its 22:00 |
| 20:07:44 | Riseman | ummm |
| 20:07:50 | [HIS]_SATAN | :-( |
| 20:07:51 | Riseman | a problem with sincronization :) |
| 20:08:01 | Chestal | rise: if you can get 3 HIS together we can play now? |
| 20:08:13 | BeZee | hi hises |
| 20:08:25 | Riseman | t-34 go with beers.... |
| 20:08:33 | Riseman | almogaver i don't know... |
| 20:08:41 | Riseman | arathorn? |
| 20:08:50 | Riseman | here only satan and me :? |
| 20:11:07 | FantaZee | don't know if ajax comes back |
| 20:11:41 | Chestal | Riseman: what's so difficult to show up at the right time? No offense meant, I'm really interested in why you guys were late |
| 20:11:46 | Chestal | Riseman: so we migh tlearn from it in the future |
| 20:13:25 | Riseman | Chestal: ummm i have a little time for sincronize the battle |
| 20:14:52 | Riseman | sorry in any case :( |
| 20:15:10 | Chestal | well, it would have been the first match with everyone showing up :-) |
| 20:16:13 | Riseman | arf :( |
| 20:19:51 | FantaZee | ches: how can i see which user is online on leagues homepage ? |
| 20:20:06 | Chestal | FantaZee: I guess you can't |
| 20:20:18 | FantaZee | why not ? |
| 20:20:32 | FantaZee | you should do it |
| 20:20:40 | Chestal | because Valoche hasn't implememted that |
| 20:20:47 | FantaZee | tell him |
| 20:20:57 | Chestal | do you think it would be a good idea to have it? |
| 20:21:28 | FantaZee | really, you not ? what's with the others. what do you think? |
| 20:21:57 | Chestal | I haven't thought about it |
| 20:22:09 | Chestal | what would you do, if it showed you a specific player? |
| 20:22:12 | Chestal | send him a bzmessage? |
| 20:23:08 | FantaZee | don't know ?!? maybe a chatting module |
| 20:23:21 | Chestal | ask it on the request forum :-) |
| 20:23:37 | FantaZee | is noene else here ?? lupi, satan rise ... |
| 20:23:45 | lupinator | irc interface would be nice |
| 20:23:59 | FantaZee | or something like that |
| 20:24:04 | FantaZee | yeah |
| 20:24:12 | FantaZee | jippiiiee |
| 20:24:19 | Chestal | yes, I don't know if it would be possible to integrate the cgi-irc we used for the tournament |
| 20:24:38 | lupinator | where is bzflag.org hosted? |
| 20:24:40 | Chestal | Valoche is doing all the web development |
| 20:24:44 | Chestal | sourceforge |
| 20:24:56 | lupinator | do they allow chats? |
| 20:25:02 | Chestal | I have no clue |
| 20:25:13 | FantaZee | but we need something with no software instalation |
| 20:25:16 | lupinator | maybe java |
| 20:25:30 | FantaZee | or bvb 09 ;)))) |
| 20:25:40 | Chestal | lupi: the IRC thingy you used was ok, wasn't it? |
| 20:26:25 | Widget | Heya, all. |
| 20:26:32 | lupinator | it worked but most providers don't allow something ike that |
| 20:26:39 | FantaZee | hello widget |
| 20:26:57 | Chestal | lupinator: why? does it cause too much load? |
| 20:27:05 | Widget | Ooh, everyone is now on the channel. |
| 20:27:28 | Widget | I wish I could set up my own BZFlag server. |
| 20:27:37 | Chestal | the fprum coul dbe used to form teams, too |
| 20:27:54 | Chestal | maybe we should add one for this purpose explicitly? most people seem to be hesitant in using the forums |
| 20:27:58 | lupinator | Chestal: yep, server load |
| 20:28:45 | lupinator | i guess almost everybody who is geekish enough not use java knows how to use irc |
| 20:29:05 | Widget | Well, some people use Gaim for IRC> |
| 20:30:38 | Widget | Hopefully, my lag won't be too bad for the tournament. |
| 20:31:31 | Widget | Hm.... GM Hunter speaks Esperanto. |
| 20:32:59 | Widget | How do you post to a forum? |
| 20:34:45 | Chestal | widget: you must be logged in |
| 20:34:58 | Widget | Chestal: I am. But it seems to log me out whenever I visit the forums. |
| 20:35:07 | Chestal | Widget: hmm, sounds like a caching problem |
| 20:35:10 | Widget | Chestal: Then when I click on Login, it says "Welcome back, Widget". |
| 20:35:26 | Widget | Ah, now it seems to work. |
| 20:39:33 | Widget | Hm... who are these people who joined my team? |
| 20:40:08 | Chestal | at least Larry is well-known |
| 20:40:18 | Widget | Ah... he's Weasel, is he not? |
| 20:40:19 | Chestal | if he is _the_ Larry |
| 20:40:32 | Chestal | and I think I've seen Wing before |
| 20:40:54 | Widget | Yes, I know Wing from real life. However, he is not able to take part in the tournament. |
| 20:41:41 | Chestal | ehm, why not? |
| 20:41:55 | Chestal | there might once be a tournament, but noone knows |
| 20:42:18 | Widget | Well, he can't play from now till probably August. |
| 20:42:36 | Widget | He's visiting India. |
| 20:42:53 | Chestal | but we will have an ever-ongoing team rating, which will be based on single matches |
| 20:43:58 | Widget | Cool. But that just means we won't be able to play our first team match until after August. :( I haven't even talked to Larry, but if he really wants to join, we'll have three people. |
| 20:46:09 | Riseman | i go to go, bye all and sorry for the battle :( |
| 20:46:22 | Chestal | bye Rise |
| 20:50:41 | lupinator | hm java sucks |
| 20:51:08 | Chestal | lupi: yep |
| 20:51:30 | lupinator | you are not allowed to connect to another server than the one the applet has been downloaded from |
| 20:53:20 | Widget | Sorry, I was disconnected. |
| 20:54:03 | Widget | help ctcp |
| 20:58:33 | FantaZee | chestal: no observers on ctf ducati ? |
| 20:59:17 | Chestal | ehm? obsevers are allowed on 5156? |
| 20:59:53 | Chestal | but no rogues, if you tried that |
| 21:00:00 | FantaZee | sorry my fault. forgot the @ urlg@*?'# |
| 21:01:20 | almo | hi |
| 21:01:38 | almo | FantaZee: what about the match? |
| 21:01:46 | Chestal | almo: you are 2 hours late |
| 21:01:56 | Chestal | almo: only arathorn was in time from HIS team |
| 21:02:58 | almo | ummm.. |
| 21:03:31 | Chestal | Rise and T-34 were about one hour later I think |
| 21:04:08 | almogaver | i thought 9gmt |
| 21:04:28 | Chestal | 19:00 GMT |
| 21:04:46 | Chestal | at least that is was I was told, the Zees and arathorn were there |
| 21:05:36 | almogaver | 2100 cet |
| 21:05:43 | almogaver | i thought cet == gmt |
| 21:05:46 | almogaver | sorry, was my fault |
| 21:06:01 | almogaver | now it's 2100 gmt |
| 21:07:27 | Chestal | yes, and 23:10 cest |
| 21:07:33 | Chestal | maybe next time it will work :-) |
| 21:07:53 | almogaver | i hope it :) |
| 21:08:23 | Widget | This is why you shouldn't use GMT. |
| 21:08:43 | Widget | I don't know of any British BZFlaggers. |
| 21:09:16 | Chestal | well, GMT=UTC |
| 21:09:21 | Chestal | and UTC is the standard time |
| 21:09:39 | Chestal | Valoche will try to present times in your local time on the webpages |
| 21:09:52 | Chestal | of course, it won't change anything you write in messages yourself |
| 21:10:21 | almogaver | Widget: it's usual to use GMT for timezones. For example, here now we have GMT+2 |
| 21:11:11 | Widget | almogaver: I know this. But is there any real advantage to using GMT? |
| 21:12:24 | almogaver | Widget: yes, prevent this kind of confusions |
| 21:13:57 | Widget | almogaver: No, why not use a different standard for BZFlag? |
| 21:14:18 | Widget | almogaver: Either some timezone in North America or Germany, since that's where most BZFlaggers are from. |
| 21:14:24 | Chestal | Widget: I really think UTC is the best stadnard to use |
| 21:14:50 | almogaver | germany timezone is the same that near the whole Europe |
| 21:14:54 | Chestal | if you're using some existing local time, peopel would have to consider daylight savings time for both timezones |
| 21:15:13 | Chestal | I guess we will put up some kind of calendar |
| 21:15:26 | Chestal | where a team can advertise when it wants to play and another team can challenge it |
| 21:15:38 | Chestal | and these times will be shown to everyone in his own local timezone when logged in |
| 21:15:43 | Widget | almogaver: German time is not the same as GMT. It's GMT+2, right? |
| 21:15:54 | almogaver | right Widget |
| 21:15:59 | Chestal | it's GMT+1 genrally |
| 21:16:01 | almogaver | summer time |
| 21:16:02 | Chestal | and UTC+2 right now |
| 21:16:11 | Chestal | betetr to talk about UTC, bot GMT |
| 21:16:19 | almogaver | there is a world timezone map at links page |
| 21:17:06 | Widget | I just know that New Zealand is either 19 or 20 hours ahead of US Pacific. |
| 21:17:43 | Widget | How far is US Pacific from GMT? |
| 21:18:04 | Chestal | I think it's -8 hours |
| 21:19:08 | Chestal | Central Europe is +1 |
| 21:19:24 | Chestal | are you +12? |
| 21:19:36 | almogaver | no, europe is +2 |
| 21:19:43 | Chestal | only with summer time |
| 21:19:50 | Chestal | but the timezone is +1 |
| 21:19:57 | Widget | Right now we are 11 hours ahead of current London time. |
| 21:20:13 | almogaver | but portugal, ireland and great britain, they're +1 |
| 21:20:19 | almogaver | and canary islands |
| 21:20:21 | Chestal | do you use daylight savings time? and if so, when? |
| 21:20:23 | Widget | No, GB is +0. :) |
| 21:20:30 | almogaver | and canary islands (spain) |
| 21:20:37 | Chestal | GB is UTC +1 right now |
| 21:21:21 | Widget | We have Daylight savings time from October to March. |
| 21:21:30 | almogaver | last sunday of march, advance an hour |
| 21:21:49 | almogaver | last sunday of september, go back an hour |
| 21:21:54 | Chestal | Widget: ok, roughly the inversion of what we have |
| 21:22:15 | Widget | So if GB is UTC+1, we're UTC+12. |
| 21:23:00 | Chestal | how late is it in New Zealand right now? |
| 21:23:09 | Chestal | 10 in the morning? |
| 21:23:25 | Chestal | that is, 9:26? |
| 21:26:24 | Widget | Yes. |
| 21:26:37 | Widget | 9:36, my watch says. |
| 21:26:41 | Widget | But it's fast. |
| 21:26:47 | Chestal | yep, 23:30 here |
| 21:37:37 | almogaver | hola [HIS]_SATAN |
| 21:38:14 | Widget | Hi, [HIS]_SATAN! |
| 21:44:07 | Widget | Hm. Is ducati down? |
| 21:44:19 | Chestal | no, 5155 and 5156 are up |
| 21:44:22 | Widget | Ah, it's on page 3. |
| 21:47:12 | jpablo | it's full. |
| 21:51:47 | arathorn | hi all |
| 21:51:52 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 21:51:54 | Chestal | hi ara |
| 21:52:06 | Chestal | arathorn: your teammates showed up 1 respective 2 hours late here |
| 21:52:26 | arathorn | :((( |
| 21:52:51 | almogaver | bog arathorn |
| 21:53:03 | arathorn | i was think that thay misx cet time and gm time |
| 21:53:14 | arathorn | hola almo |
| 21:53:29 | arathorn | who was play on end? tlz and mol? |
| 21:54:05 | Chestal | tlz and two moles+jolly |
| 21:54:26 | arathorn | and who win? |
| 21:54:49 | Chestal | maybe it was only two tlz and one drunk Ajaax :-) |
| 21:55:02 | Chestal | the Moles won, I guess it was 9:2, but I am not 100% sure |
| 21:55:27 | almogaver | 9:2 in a half hour?? |
| 21:55:47 | Chestal | yes, a lot of action |
| 21:55:55 | arathorn | lol yep ajax was drunk... |
| 21:56:08 | arathorn | his soccer team win |
| 21:56:35 | almogaver | FantaZee, [HIS]_SATAN, arathorn: what do you think to play tomorrow at 22:00 cet? 2000 UCT/GMT |
| 21:57:06 | arathorn | for me is ok |
| 21:57:22 | arathorn | if chestal and tlz want |
| 21:57:59 | Chestal | hmm, I can't say for certain whether I'm there |
| 21:58:08 | arathorn | prrobably is T drunk too today |
| 21:58:12 | Widget | It is 9-1. |
| 21:58:14 | Widget | 9-2. |
| 21:58:16 | Widget | Sorry. |
| 21:58:18 | arathorn | ortodox ester is today |
| 21:58:41 | Widget | Are there any other matches to-day? |
| 21:58:46 | Chestal | no |
| 21:59:00 | Chestal | not many matches right now, because everythign has to be coordinated manually |
| 21:59:16 | Widget | I want to take part in a match sometime. |
| 22:02:48 | Chestal | I hope that we'll get the calendar etc. up real soon now |
| 22:02:54 | Chestal | and we can start with official matches |
| 22:11:41 | Widget | What is an 'Amerikanische Zusta"nde'? |
| 22:12:01 | Widget | a" = a-umlaut |
| 22:12:39 | Chestal | American conditions |
| 22:12:59 | Chestal | usually used when referring to something in the US that is bad |
| 22:22:24 | FantaZee | bye. see you |
| 22:25:36 | T-34 | Hi tankriders! |
| 22:26:03 | Widget | Hi, T-34 . |
| 22:26:18 | arathorn | happy ester T |
| 22:26:20 | T-34 | Nothing about his? |
| 22:26:27 | T-34 | thx Sire |
| 22:26:47 | almogaver | salut T-34 |
| 22:26:53 | T-34 | What about the match? |
| 22:26:57 | T-34 | Hi Almo! |
| 22:26:59 | T-34 | :) |
| 22:27:15 | T-34 | Buenas tardes! |
| 22:27:32 | almogaver | buenas noches now! |
| 22:27:45 | T-34 | a si como no?! ;) |
| 22:27:55 | almogaver | buenas tardes from afternoon to 9pm or so |
| 22:28:03 | almogaver | :) |
| 22:28:49 | Widget | Euh.. vous parlez espagnol ou quoi? |
| 22:28:50 | T-34 | yo soy muchas gratias por todo (?) :) |
| 22:29:03 | Widget | Ah, oui, vous parlez espagnol. |
| 22:29:35 | T-34 | I don't know so much spanish Widget! |
| 22:29:44 | T-34 | I'm from Romania |
| 22:30:04 | T-34 | but HIS stand for Hispano |
| 22:30:45 | T-34 | Almogaver: glad to meet you; finally! |
| 22:31:47 | Widget | T-34: I don't know Spanish either. |
| 22:32:13 | T-34 | Widget: :) |
| 22:32:54 | T-34 | Widget: I must learn spanish now that I play in Invincible Armada! |
| 22:34:48 | almogaver | T-34: i hope we aren't the "armada invencible" |
| 22:34:55 | almogaver | T-34: otherwise we'll be defeated ;) |
| 22:34:55 | T-34 | Widget: you're from Australia if I remember well?! |
| 22:35:07 | arathorn | new zeland |
| 22:35:17 | arathorn | i think |
| 22:35:32 | T-34 | Almogaver: I know that, I just hope that we can prove that history can be rewriten |
| 22:35:53 | Widget | T-34: Yes, New Zeland. |
| 22:36:01 | Widget | s/Zeland/Zealand |
| 22:36:13 | almogaver | T-34: better the lepanto battle |
| 22:36:24 | almogaver | T-34: where Cervantes lost a hand |
| 22:36:45 | arathorn | :))) |
| 22:37:15 | scanline | is back (gone 08:39:31) |
| 22:37:19 | almogaver | it was the last spanish great victory |
| 22:37:26 | T-34 | Widget: What about immigration in New Zealand? ( I really think at that! ) |
| 22:38:03 | arathorn | and last great battle with gales |
| 22:38:10 | arathorn | galies |
| 22:41:21 | Widget | T-34: What about immigration in New Zealand? |
| 22:41:37 | Widget | I'm only checking this console every five minutes or so, so forgive me if I don't respond immediately. |
| 22:46:40 | T-34 | Sorry my daughter was crying |
| 22:59:51 | scanline | is away: something that slightly resembles edible nonpoisonous dinner-ish substances |
| 23:12:44 | Widget | Will someone play me on ducati? |
| 23:14:59 | T-34 | I'll come soon |
| 23:15:21 | T-34 | But you must tell me more about your country |
| 23:15:25 | T-34 | :) |
| 23:17:14 | T-34 | bye all |
| 23:18:11 | almogaver | see you in ducati |
| 23:21:57 | T-34 | Widgetttttttttttt: we are on Ducati and you don't... |
| 23:22:13 | T-34 | How long do you think we will wait you? |
| 23:22:32 | T-34 | Widget? |
| 23:22:48 | scanline | is back (gone 00:22:58) |
| 23:23:03 | T-34 | think that ibot is rude |