| 00:08:42 | Widget | Hm. |
| 00:08:46 | Widget | Server problems? |
| 00:08:54 | Widget | This room seems significantly smaller. |
| 00:09:38 | captain_proton | netsplit |
| 00:12:22 | Widget | Netsplits don't disconnect people. |
| 00:12:25 | Widget | They just split. |
| 00:12:41 | captain_proton | they can disconnect people if its severe enough |
| 00:13:00 | Widget | -lilo- [GlobalNotice] Hi all. We've just shut down a main rotation server provided by one of our corporate sponsors, which was experiencing severe packet loss. Please bear with us. |
| 00:13:01 | blaboo | ok, 1.7e5 is ALWAYS crashing |
| 00:13:21 | captain_proton | blaboo: perhaps your video RAM has run out? |
| 00:13:21 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 00:13:22 | blaboo | or the cvs version of e5 or whatever |
| 00:13:23 | Widget | Run it in gdb. |
| 00:13:24 | blaboo | ;) |
| 00:13:34 | Widget | Get a backtrace..... only....... |
| 00:13:40 | blaboo | i COULD do that... |
| 00:13:44 | Widget | When I tried running it in gdb, it stopped crashing. |
| 00:13:47 | Widget | =P |
| 00:13:48 | blaboo | but i really think that its my video ram |
| 00:13:54 | Widget | Now I usually run it in gdb. |
| 00:14:14 | blaboo | captain_proton: do you guys over malloc the video ram? |
| 00:14:21 | blaboo | maybe theres a video ram leak? |
| 00:14:23 | Widget | I love my Mac. It's the computer for the rest of us -- who don't like to think! |
| 00:14:25 | vogon_jeltz | ... |
| 00:14:30 | captain_proton | blaboo: we don't malloc any video ram |
| 00:14:41 | captain_proton | blaboo: thats what RCAM said was what was causing his client crashes |
| 00:14:45 | blaboo | captain_proton: yeah i know |
| 00:14:55 | blaboo | ... |
| 00:15:04 | vogon_jeltz | oh, ... yourself. ;) |
| 00:15:09 | blaboo | ... |
| 00:15:16 | Widget | ....! |
| 00:15:21 | blaboo | anyway, i'll do e5 w/ gdb |
| 00:15:29 | vogon_jeltz | fact is, nobody except for framebuffer developers does anything with video RAM. |
| 00:15:40 | vogon_jeltz | the system handles it for you. |
| 00:15:41 | blaboo | yeah i dunno what video ram is even |
| 00:15:49 | blaboo | and why the hell would a guy want to |
| 00:16:06 | Widget | All of you should get your Mac today! |
| 00:16:11 | captain_proton | blaboo: video ram is handled internally by the video drivers |
| 00:16:23 | blaboo | well it already crashed |
| 00:16:24 | Widget | Direct your income towards getting one immediately. |
| 00:16:25 | vogon_jeltz | it holds textures. |
| 00:16:34 | blaboo | segmentation fault, handleServerMessage() |
| 00:16:38 | vogon_jeltz | and the framebuffer. |
| 00:16:49 | captain_proton | blaboo: build with DEBUG and re-backtrace |
| 00:17:12 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: actually, I'd recommend building with GCXXOPTS=-ggdb. |
| 00:17:49 | blaboo | the video ram holds textures eh |
| 00:18:06 | captain_proton | blaboo: textures, compiled vertex arrays, etc |
| 00:18:10 | blaboo | i really don't want to debug 1.7e5, lets do 1.8 |
| 00:18:20 | blaboo | vertex arrays? |
| 00:18:46 | captain_proton | blaboo: its a way of efficiently specifying a bunch of verteces |
| 00:19:00 | vogon_jeltz | blaboo: you give the card a pile of vertices and it figures out the best way to assemble them into polygons, IIRC. |
| 00:19:14 | blaboo | i see. essentially a sort? |
| 00:19:47 | captain_proton | blaboo: yeah, but it stores them all internally and can use them all in parallel (O(1) traversal) |
| 00:19:59 | blaboo | ah, bravo! |
| 00:20:12 | blaboo | thats what i like to see |
| 00:20:38 | arathorn | hi all teners |
| 00:20:44 | arathorn | tenkers |
| 00:20:59 | blaboo | hola arathorn |
| 00:21:11 | blaboo | hmmm, anywhere i can read up on this graphics stuff? |
| 00:21:34 | vogon_jeltz | hands blaboo the Red Book. |
| 00:21:51 | captain_proton | hands blaboo the blue book too |
| 00:22:15 | blaboo | um, opengl redbook, whats da blue book? |
| 00:22:29 | captain_proton | "Excuse me, would slarty bartfast and the visiting earth human please come to the reception area immediately" |
| 00:22:40 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 00:22:45 | T-34 | Chestal?? |
| 00:22:45 | captain_proton | blaboo: its the other half of the opengl documentation |
| 00:22:45 | vogon_jeltz | it's Slartibartfast, skinbag. |
| 00:22:52 | arathorn | ah how is nice day today!!!DUCATI IS FINALY BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! |
| 00:22:53 | vogon_jeltz | hey, T-34. |
| 00:22:59 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: well EXCUUUSE MEE |
| 00:23:14 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: its been a while since i read them |
| 00:23:19 | vogon_jeltz | and "Earth creature," too. |
| 00:23:35 | T-34 | But can you tell me if Chestal is still on-line? |
| 00:24:02 | captain_proton | T-34: chestal is probably asleep |
| 00:24:03 | arathorn | and one question...almogaver was here before???any see him? |
| 00:24:23 | T-34 | Thx Captain! |
| 00:25:12 | T-34 | Ara, Ducati is almost empty and you stay here? |
| 00:28:49 | arathorn | heya T |
| 00:29:03 | T-34 | hopes that you'll have a nice week-end and will see you soon! |
| 00:29:07 | T-34 | Ara I go |
| 00:32:11 | arathorn | great game T-34! |
| 00:33:30 | T-34 | Bye all! |
| 00:47:33 | captain_proton | freelancer: you wanted me? |
| 00:48:03 | freelancer | hi captain wanted to know when is our next match |
| 00:48:14 | captain_proton | no clue |
| 00:48:39 | freelancer | what ever happened to gerbil's rat team |
| 00:49:03 | | rcam was last seen on #bzflag 9 days, 2 hours, 49 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: is away: I'm busy [Wed Apr 17 22:59:21 2002] |
| 00:49:03 | jacques | ibot: seen rcam |
| 00:49:07 | jacques | LOL |
| 00:50:39 | freelancer | captain do you know when the league will officially start |
| 00:51:05 | captain_proton | freelancer: whenever we get everything set up |
| 00:51:58 | freelancer | i see alot of new teams out there ,can't wait for the war to begin |
| 00:53:37 | freelancer | have to go cya on the battlefied |
| 01:18:31 | captain_proton | there goes marvin |
| 01:23:44 | captain_proton | "and do you have any of those little biscuits?" "i'm the one asking the questions" |
| 01:24:40 | vogon_jeltz | best series ever. |
| 01:26:02 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: its even better in video |
| 01:26:17 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: with number one having his 'prisoners' hold his gun while he frisks them |
| 01:26:32 | vogon_jeltz | heh. |
| 01:32:38 | captain_proton | "we've got to find out what people -want- from fire" |
| 01:33:00 | vogon_jeltz | do people want fire that can be fitted nasally? |
| 01:33:41 | captain_proton | "and we interrogated a gazelle" |
| 01:40:37 | captain_proton | what do you get if you multiply six by nine? |
| 01:40:54 | vogon_jeltz | 54. |
| 01:42:25 | | ...but 6 * 9 is <reply> 42... |
| 01:42:25 | captain_proton | ibot, 6 * 9 is <reply>42 |
| 01:42:29 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:42:37 | captain_proton | how interesting ;) |
| 01:43:01 | | 42 |
| 01:43:01 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, 6 * 9 |
| 01:56:30 | BZFlag | captain_proton: now what is that for? |
| 01:56:37 | | 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 01:56:37 | BZFlag | ibot 1+1? |
| 01:56:59 | captain_proton | BZFlag: its the ultimate question |
| 02:02:40 | Widget | ibot 1-1 |
| 02:02:41 | Widget | ibot 1-1? |
| 02:02:55 | captain_proton | ibot, 1 - 1 |
| 02:03:25 | Widget | Hello, iLLf8d. |
| 02:03:35 | Widget | ibot, 1 - 1? |
| 02:03:51 | Widget | Hm..... iLLf8d's usernamr is 'neener'. |
| 02:04:24 | iLLf8d | hi |
| 02:04:26 | iLLf8d | widget that your callsign? |
| 02:04:45 | Widget | iLLf8d: Yes. |
| 02:04:47 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 02:04:56 | iLLf8d | i'm tankenstein |
| 02:05:00 | iLLf8d | I've played you often |
| 02:06:01 | Widget | Ah, hi! |
| 02:06:07 | Widget | Why is your username 'neener'? |
| 02:06:17 | iLLf8d | thats my nix account |
| 02:06:35 | iLLf8d | Its my username on my system so I set it the same way in the chat client |
| 02:06:38 | iLLf8d | I can make it anything |
| 02:06:41 | Widget | I know. |
| 02:06:46 | Widget | But why is your UNIX username 'neener'? |
| 02:06:55 | iLLf8d | why not |
| 02:06:56 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 02:07:07 | iLLf8d | version me |
| 02:07:09 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 02:07:54 | Widget | Hm..... did you set that yourself? |
| 02:08:28 | iLLf8d | yeah just goofin |
| 02:10:36 | | 2 |
| 02:10:36 | BZFlag | ibot 3 - 1 |
| 02:10:39 | BZFlag | ibot 1 - 1 |
| 02:10:47 | BZFlag | ibot 3 - 3 |
| 02:10:49 | BZFlag | wild. |
| 02:11:00 | BZFlag | ibot 6 * 2 - 12 |
| 02:11:43 | | 3 |
| 02:11:43 | captain_proton | ibot 1 + 2 |
| 02:11:45 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:11:56 | captain_proton | BZFlag: you've got quite the bug there |
| 02:13:03 | | 2 |
| 02:13:03 | BZFlag | ibot one plus one |
| 02:13:45 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:13:53 | captain_proton | BZFlag: what does ibot use to calculate that? |
| 02:15:44 | BZFlag | $locMsg = eval($locMsg); |
| 02:15:59 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:16:02 | BZFlag | after much stripping to ensure that it contains no non-math text. |
| 02:16:50 | captain_proton | i guess i'm a C guy |
| 02:17:05 | captain_proton | i would have set up a pipe to and from bc |
| 02:19:15 | | zero |
| 02:19:15 | BZFlag | ibot 3 - 3 |
| 02:19:25 | BZFlag | hehe |
| 02:19:34 | captain_proton | you're so l33t |
| 02:19:40 | BZFlag | captain_proton: happy? |
| 02:19:53 | | zero |
| 02:19:53 | BZFlag | ibot 2 + 2 +4-8 |
| 02:20:13 | | BZFlag: sorry... |
| 02:20:13 | BZFlag | ibot 234234///234234 |
| 02:20:19 | | 10184.0869565217 |
| 02:20:19 | BZFlag | ibot 234234/23 |
| 02:20:53 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:20:57 | captain_proton | likes this song muchly |
| 02:21:24 | Widget | Muchly. |
| 02:21:50 | captain_proton | yes |
| 02:21:54 | captain_proton | have a problem with that? |
| 02:22:23 | Widget | Hm..... editing your CTCP VERSION to fool haxx0rs again? |
| 02:22:36 | captain_proton | again? |
| 02:22:38 | captain_proton | when did i stop? |
| 02:23:40 | Widget | Last time you said that you did it "from time to time". |
| 02:23:51 | captain_proton | i switch it from time to time |
| 02:24:07 | Widget | To.....? |
| 02:24:14 | captain_proton | any number of things |
| 02:25:07 | Widget | Such as.....? |
| 02:25:22 | captain_proton | you'll just have to wait to find out |
| 03:36:07 | scanline | is away: fun, games, and explosions. 100% bannana free |
| 05:27:18 | MrApathyCream | pauses to enjoy the deafening silence |
| 05:27:38 | vogon_jeltz | YOU SUCK! GET OFF THE STAGE! |
| 05:27:41 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: would you like me to send you some good music to pass the time? |
| 05:28:05 | MrApathyCream | nah, thanks, i got rebuild the kernel |
| 05:28:51 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: uhh |
| 05:29:02 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: how do you rebuild the windows kernel? |
| 05:29:16 | MrApathyCream | oh yeah, that's right... no need. |
| 05:29:25 | MrApathyCream | hmmmm what to do now? |
| 05:29:44 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: guess you're just gonna have to purchase upgrades |
| 05:30:04 | MrApathyCream | returns rotten tomato back to vogon_jeltz, in a slightly more flattened form |
| 05:30:15 | vogon_jeltz | raises his tomato shields |
| 05:30:56 | MrApathyCream | OOOhh, I know!!! |
| 05:31:10 | MrApathyCream | I try out the new SDL in sourceforge!!! |
| 05:31:17 | captain_proton | SDL is on sourceforge? |
| 05:31:24 | MrApathyCream | Schweet!!! |
| 05:31:45 | MrApathyCream | crs done it again! |
| 05:34:05 | MrApathyCream | enjoys the new BZFlag background music, and tries to shoot in time with the beat |
| 05:34:24 | captain_proton | haha |
| 05:34:39 | vogon_jeltz | say what? |
| 05:34:54 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: he's trolling |
| 05:35:14 | MrApathyCream | Hmmm need more shots, in order to keep along with tune |
| 05:35:14 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I figured. |
| 05:35:32 | vogon_jeltz | <MrApathyCream> Oh, wait, THERE AREN'T ANY UPDATES!!! |
| 05:35:37 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 05:35:51 | MrApathyCream | --did i make you look? |
| 05:35:54 | vogon_jeltz | <MrApathyCream> OMG WFT ROOFLE!!$!!!!@11 |
| 05:36:08 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: actually, you did. |
| 05:36:10 | | BZT JSG EBBSYR!!$!!!!@11 |
| 05:36:10 | MrApathyCream | ibot, rot13 OMG WFT ROOFLE!!$!!!!@11 |
| 05:37:19 | | MrApathyCream: what? |
| 05:37:19 | MrApathyCream | ibot, hax0r OMG WFT ROOFLE!!$!!!!@11 |
| 05:37:37 | vogon_jeltz | read the Something Awful forums sometime. |
| 05:37:41 | MrApathyCream | s/WFT/WTF/ ? |
| 05:37:54 | vogon_jeltz | it's the canonical AOLer response to something funny. |
| 05:38:17 | vogon_jeltz | OMG == OMG, WFT == WTF, ROOFLE = ROFL. |
| 05:38:24 | MrApathyCream | ahh |
| 05:39:01 | vogon_jeltz | chuckles at his personal favorite thread. |
| 05:39:20 | vogon_jeltz | "In this thread, you are posting on the {([H])}ard forums." |
| 06:51:48 | MrApathyCream | sticks his toe in captain_proton's ear |
| 06:54:04 | captain_proton | ergh |
| 06:54:52 | MrApathyCream | hey, is your hud enhancement patch ready for prime time? |
| 06:56:14 | captain_proton | mostly |
| 06:56:34 | captain_proton | 1 bug that i haven't had the motivation to find and fix: alerts don't seem to work (identify, gm lock on, etc) |
| 06:56:49 | MrApathyCream | heh, mostly |
| 06:57:03 | captain_proton | if you want to fix it, go right ahead ;) |
| 06:57:06 | MrApathyCream | just a transform issue? |
| 06:57:21 | captain_proton | i'm not sure |
| 06:57:22 | captain_proton | probably |
| 06:57:46 | MrApathyCream | this is e5 diffed right? <not some captain_proton-version> |
| 06:58:00 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: right |
| 06:58:35 | MrApathyCream | alrite i play along then |
| 06:59:49 | MrApathyCream | so bottom panel is transparent, anything else? |
| 07:00:20 | captain_proton | well, it removes the 'panel' altogether |
| 07:00:31 | captain_proton | messages and radar are .5 alpha i think |
| 07:01:06 | captain_proton | plus it makes almost all of the text smaller (less intrusive) |
| 07:01:16 | MrApathyCream | damn you linux boys like small fonts |
| 07:01:31 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: its not unreadable like 1.8 |
| 07:01:39 | MrApathyCream | Where's my microscope |
| 07:01:56 | MrApathyCream | what size is the player menu? 4pt? |
| 07:01:57 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: just run at 320x200 - text should be plenty big then |
| 07:02:04 | MrApathyCream | haha |
| 07:02:14 | BZFlag | captain_proton: are you planning to completly remove the panel? ie delete the file from data? |
| 07:02:27 | BZFlag | there are a bunch of defines in the panel itself. |
| 07:02:27 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i wasn't planning to because i'm a lazy ass |
| 07:02:46 | MrApathyCream | i vouch for ya ;) |
| 07:03:12 | captain_proton | BZFlag: since we have a clean interface in 1.8, i see no real need to clean up the 1.7 code that much |
| 07:05:07 | MrApathyCream | thilo will have a cow :) |
| 07:06:28 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:07:06 | captain_proton | well i'm off for some heavy system upgrading |
| 07:07:07 | captain_proton | see yas |
| 07:10:02 | MrApathyCream | hmmm patch seems to remove team counts/colors area on rhs |
| 07:10:07 | MrApathyCream | oof, he's gone |
| 07:15:54 | MrApathyCream | Date: 2002-04-14 22:33 |
| 07:15:55 | MrApathyCream | Sender: rcamvideogames |
| 07:15:55 | MrApathyCream | Logged In: YES |
| 07:15:55 | MrApathyCream | user_id=327241 |
| 07:15:55 | MrApathyCream | Exellent patch. Thanks for the effort and creativity. This |
| 07:15:56 | MrApathyCream | will surly be added to CVS very soon. |
| 07:16:02 | MrApathyCream | -- he kills me |
| 07:17:47 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: yes. that needs to be added to the team score display. |
| 07:21:45 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: Any luck on e4 clients -> e5 server problem? |
| 07:25:05 | BZFlag | nope. but I have not spent much time on it in the last few days |
| 07:27:40 | MrApathyCream | wishes he could figure out what the heck patch is doing, sometimes. |
| 07:29:01 | MrApathyCream | Errg, patch file is against 1.8 |
| 12:51:39 | akira_ | moin |
| 13:43:16 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 13:43:28 | akira_ | tach |
| 13:43:38 | T-34 | Chestal?? |
| 13:43:45 | akira_ | is sleeping |
| 13:43:51 | T-34 | ah |
| 13:44:41 | T-34 | is goin' to sleep too |
| 13:44:44 | T-34 | bye all |
| 13:44:56 | akira_ | cu |
| 14:12:01 | Chestal | re |
| 15:36:46 | Ginku | hi all, hi chestal, is ducati up again ? |
| 16:08:25 | Chestal | hi Cream |
| 16:15:50 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 19:44:38 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 19:45:26 | T-34 | Chestal? |
| 19:45:40 | vogon_jeltz | hmm. |
| 19:45:57 | vogon_jeltz | unsetting a flag is (variable & ~flag), correct? |
| 19:46:14 | vogon_jeltz | my brain has left me today. |
| 19:48:39 | Chestal | T-34: what's up? |
| 19:49:07 | T-34 | Chestal: I told long time ago that I'll look for that flag bug |
| 19:49:17 | Chestal | yep, I think it's fixed |
| 19:49:25 | Chestal | captain proton foudn the cause I guess |
| 19:49:29 | T-34 | I found how it happened and I show to captain onto bhaskara |
| 19:49:50 | T-34 | yes he did that on bhaskara but it remain on Ducati |
| 19:50:13 | Chestal | yes, I didn't fix it, because my old source tree is messed up |
| 19:50:19 | Chestal | I just want to live with it till e6 |
| 19:50:28 | Chestal | hoped we woudl finish e6 earlier, oh well |
| 19:50:37 | T-34 | Ah I didn't know and I though that Captain forgot to tell you |
| 19:50:52 | T-34 | that's why I was looking for you |
| 19:51:34 | Chestal | no, it should be fixed in current CVS code |
| 19:52:27 | T-34 | ok, till then can I put my flag in 'safe' place if a building is there? ;) |
| 19:55:40 | Chestal | gmpf :-| |
| 19:55:52 | T-34 | :)) |
| 19:56:00 | Chestal | admins can reset the flags, many of them won't know how, though |
| 19:56:11 | T-34 | was just asking... |
| 19:58:01 | T-34 | ok, I go to the battle, bye all and thank's again Chestal! |
| 21:22:30 | MrApathyCream | rubs toothpaste in captain_proton's hair |
| 23:22:09 | Widget | hihihihi |
| 23:22:11 | Widget | hoi hoi hoi |
| 23:22:50 | Chestal | hi Widget |
| 23:22:57 | Chestal | and good night :-) |
| 23:23:01 | Widget | Good night. |
| 23:33:54 | hbarrett | Where do you find bzedit? |
| 23:34:18 | MrApathyCream | cvs on sourceforge |
| 23:35:11 | hbarrett | Are there any alternatives under Linux? |
| 23:35:35 | vogon_jeltz | no. |
| 23:35:37 | MrApathyCream | other editors? |
| 23:35:50 | MrApathyCream | isn't there a java based one? |
| 23:36:04 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: it's Windows-only, IIRC. |
| 23:36:15 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: so much for write-once, run-anywhere. |
| 23:36:23 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 23:36:39 | MrApathyCream | Should be easy to fix... I'd assume it just breaks the rules about files... |
| 23:36:44 | vogon_jeltz | cranks up Tenacious D. |
| 23:37:07 | MrApathyCream | wonders why his ears are bleeding |
| 23:39:36 | MrApathyCream | where is the java code anyway? |
| 23:45:50 | MrApathyCream | Ah, here it is |
| 23:45:52 | MrApathyCream | http://www.lans-web.com/bzflag/data/BZWORLD.exe |