| 00:27:51 | Widget | Hm... when I play BZFlag, it seems to update the screen only once every second, thus making it extremely jumpy. I've had this problem before, but restarting X usually fixes it... but I restarted twice and it isn't working. |
| 00:35:38 | blaboo | dont play bzflag. its addictive |
| 00:46:27 | Widget | :( |
| 00:48:07 | captain_pistachi | yo blaboo |
| 00:48:13 | blaboo | yo pistachio |
| 00:48:18 | captain_pistachi | ugh |
| 00:48:23 | blaboo | ugh? |
| 00:48:26 | captain_proton | kicks opensplits |
| 00:48:34 | blaboo | you want some william orbit? |
| 00:48:40 | captain_proton | sure why not |
| 00:49:05 | blaboo | ever listen to an grecki? |
| 00:49:15 | captain_proton | never heard of them |
| 00:49:24 | blaboo | no, one dood, polish guy |
| 00:49:28 | blaboo | composer |
| 00:49:34 | blaboo | henryk gorecki |
| 00:49:38 | captain_proton | ohhhH!! |
| 00:49:40 | captain_proton | gorecki |
| 00:49:40 | captain_proton | sure |
| 00:49:43 | blaboo | "goretzky"? |
| 00:49:56 | captain_proton | i'd never heard of 'grecki' |
| 00:50:01 | blaboo | what do you think of his stuff |
| 00:50:07 | captain_proton | interesting |
| 00:50:17 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:50:22 | blaboo | a little repetative |
| 00:50:27 | captain_proton | blaboo: know of any decent software synths for linux? |
| 00:50:35 | blaboo | no |
| 00:50:37 | blaboo | and its a problem |
| 00:50:59 | blaboo | maybe check out arts stuff, what was that thing called |
| 00:51:05 | blaboo | you could do all kinds of funky stuff with it |
| 00:51:10 | blaboo | it comes with kde |
| 00:51:26 | blaboo | know anywhere i can find a midi player for linux? |
| 00:51:28 | captain_proton | i've tried arts |
| 00:51:33 | captain_proton | i don't like it |
| 00:52:35 | blaboo | ever tried spiralsynth? |
| 00:52:44 | captain_proton | nope |
| 00:52:57 | captain_proton | i'm gonna take a look at gstreamer again and see if they've made any more progress |
| 00:53:21 | blaboo | you can generate tones out of xmms ;) |
| 00:53:29 | captain_proton | haw haw |
| 00:53:30 | blaboo | i would suggest you use fruity loops under windows |
| 00:53:52 | captain_proton | i have a friend who suggested 'reason' |
| 00:54:08 | | hmmm... reason is I incorporated a hack from Tangent that allows the WL100 wlan card to work with the driver by "pretending" its in 5v mode |
| 00:54:08 | blaboo | reason? |
| 00:54:15 | captain_proton | http://www.propellerheads.se/products/reason/ |
| 00:55:14 | blaboo | man i shouldn't send so much stuff over my lame ass cable connection |
| 00:55:25 | blaboo | its maxed out |
| 00:55:32 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:56:40 | blaboo | heh, i can't see the screenshot cuz i need netscape 4 or later ;) |
| 00:56:47 | captain_proton | blaboo: yes you can |
| 00:57:40 | blaboo | that is an intense looking program |
| 00:57:50 | captain_proton | yea |
| 00:58:01 | captain_proton | two of my friends said its the coolest looking program they've ever seen |
| 00:58:05 | blaboo | well maybe if i like commercial software |
| 00:58:19 | blaboo | yeah, but why not buy real equipment? |
| 00:58:36 | captain_proton | real equipment costs even more money ? |
| 00:58:44 | blaboo | i mean, its gotta be cheaper than that program |
| 00:58:46 | blaboo | ;) |
| 00:59:04 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:59:14 | iLLf8d | anyone up for a little ctf at bhaskara? |
| 00:59:19 | captain_proton | nope |
| 00:59:23 | blaboo | lets play 1.8 |
| 00:59:25 | blaboo | ctf |
| 00:59:25 | iLLf8d | bitch! |
| 00:59:26 | captain_proton | i'm trying to decide whether to start writing a synth |
| 00:59:26 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 00:59:35 | captain_proton | looks at blaboo |
| 00:59:36 | blaboo | i think it would be nice |
| 00:59:45 | iLLf8d | blaboo I can butya gotta give me a little time to recomplile the latest |
| 00:59:57 | blaboo | all the stuff could be skinnable, then it would look just like that program |
| 01:00:00 | iLLf8d | you got a 1.8 ctf field up somewhere? |
| 01:00:09 | blaboo | hell, even steal the graphics from the program |
| 01:00:13 | captain_proton | two has HiX on ctf |
| 01:00:15 | iLLf8d | captain_proton: which synth? |
| 01:00:22 | blaboo | ok, recompile now |
| 01:00:28 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: a new one for leenoox |
| 01:00:39 | blaboo | gtk? |
| 01:00:41 | iLLf8d | just a synth? |
| 01:00:42 | iLLf8d | or what |
| 01:00:47 | captain_proton | blaboo: sure |
| 01:00:53 | iLLf8d | theres a good tracker called soundtracker |
| 01:00:54 | blaboo | i would like to investigate what i could do with standard ml / eXene |
| 01:01:08 | captain_proton | blaboo: well - if i knew those languages ... |
| 01:01:31 | blaboo | it would pay to learn |
| 01:01:45 | captain_proton | i'm sure i'll pick them up at some point |
| 01:02:51 | blaboo | soundtracker looks kind of ugly... |
| 01:03:03 | iLLf8d | yeah but it works |
| 01:03:09 | captain_proton | blaboo: where? |
| 01:03:10 | iLLf8d | it is a tracker you know |
| 01:03:14 | iLLf8d | they almost always look like that |
| 01:03:16 | iLLf8d | soundtracker.org |
| 01:03:21 | iLLf8d | works well too |
| 01:03:57 | iLLf8d | and theres a ton of soundpacks available freely via ftp |
| 01:04:06 | iLLf8d | they used to be on cdrom.com they may still be dunno |
| 01:04:22 | iLLf8d | if you do a search for them the latest location will turn up |
| 01:04:31 | iLLf8d | captain_proton: make something like reason |
| 01:04:37 | iLLf8d | have you seen that before? |
| 01:05:04 | iLLf8d | reason rocks |
| 01:05:05 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 01:05:15 | iLLf8d | http://www.propellerheads.se (I think) |
| 01:09:33 | captain_proton | so blaboo ... |
| 01:10:47 | Widget | How do I get 1.7e5 again? |
| 01:10:54 | Widget | CVS gives me 1.8a1. |
| 01:11:05 | captain_proton | add '-r v1_7' between 'co' and 'bzflag' |
| 01:11:46 | Widget | Thanks. |
| 01:17:02 | captain_proton | pokes blaboo |
| 01:17:28 | blaboo | yo |
| 01:17:44 | blaboo | stupid windows machine won't transfer files at more than 100k a second |
| 01:17:55 | blaboo | also can't assign two ip addys to it if using dhcp |
| 01:17:58 | blaboo | man i love windows |
| 01:18:02 | blaboo | windows windows windows |
| 01:18:04 | blaboo | thanks bill gates |
| 01:18:13 | blaboo | i hope those states break up that windows pos |
| 01:18:21 | blaboo | that is the best thing possible |
| 01:18:50 | blaboo | its like the thing throttles at exactly 100k a second! |
| 01:19:12 | captain_proton | haha blaboo |
| 01:19:23 | BZFlag | Widget: or convert the one you have... |
| 01:19:26 | blaboo | that thing is gonna get linuxed |
| 01:19:36 | Widget | BZFlag: I deleted it. I'm playing from debs now. |
| 01:19:37 | BZFlag | Widget: cvs up -Pdr v1_7 |
| 01:19:38 | blaboo | anyway, i'll compile soundtracker now |
| 01:19:55 | BZFlag | latest deb I built was 1.7e4 |
| 01:20:06 | Widget | Yes. That's what I'm playing with now. |
| 01:20:15 | Widget | I deleted my 1.7e5 by mistake. |
| 01:20:22 | Widget | I cd ..ed one too many levels up |
| 01:21:01 | blaboo | anyone else up for a little 1.8? |
| 01:21:16 | blaboo | a little two on two ctf? |
| 01:21:24 | captain_proton | is in the mood to code :) |
| 01:21:39 | blaboo | captain_proton: check out soundtracker, it wont compile for me yet |
| 01:22:46 | Widget | blaboo: Keyboard support! |
| 01:23:08 | captain_proton | mutters something about keyboard loosers |
| 01:23:29 | Widget | mutters something about people who spell 'losers' as 'loosers'. |
| 01:24:28 | Widget | In what file does it check the arrow keys? |
| 01:24:33 | Widget | bzflag.cxx? |
| 01:24:42 | captain_proton | blaboo: works fine for me |
| 01:24:46 | captain_proton | Widget: probably playing.cxx |
| 01:24:54 | Widget | captain_proton: Really? I checked there. |
| 01:25:27 | Widget | There's only one mention of 'arrow' there. |
| 01:25:34 | Widget | node->setTexture(HUDuiControl::getArrow()); |
| 01:26:07 | captain_proton | Widget: perhaps you should find the switch that handles keyboard input (?) |
| 01:26:24 | captain_proton | ... just a thought |
| 01:27:07 | captain_proton | or you could look through the platform stuff and find what name is given to each arrow key and grep -re through the source |
| 01:32:59 | Widget | How about messages.... where are they handled? |
| 01:33:20 | captain_proton | what kind of messages? |
| 01:34:02 | Widget | Private. |
| 01:34:23 | Widget | HUDDialog? |
| 01:34:39 | captain_proton | HUDRenderer probably |
| 01:36:03 | Widget | Hm..... I don't see anything. What should I search for? |
| 01:39:03 | blaboo | proton, grab my latest patch on SF? |
| 01:39:39 | captain_proton | blaboo: nope :) |
| 01:39:45 | blaboo | i see |
| 01:39:50 | blaboo | i just beat tankenstein bad |
| 01:41:25 | blaboo | silly meq |
| 01:41:49 | blaboo | we need another rcam here to kick the developers asses into gear |
| 01:41:54 | captain_proton | so blaboo ... |
| 01:42:34 | blaboo | so proton... |
| 01:42:45 | captain_proton | you really wanna do this? |
| 01:43:01 | blaboo | what are we talking? tracker/synth? |
| 01:43:05 | | bzflag is TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps |
| 01:43:05 | blaboo | bzflag? |
| 01:43:22 | captain_proton | blaboo: ya |
| 01:43:24 | captain_proton | blaboo: synth |
| 01:44:25 | blaboo | my god, just as long as our documentation isn't in powerpoint or word |
| 01:44:38 | captain_proton | how does LaTeX sound? |
| 01:44:58 | blaboo | captain proton, do you reject evil microsoft and all its evil fascist ways? |
| 01:45:04 | blaboo | yeah, tex is nice |
| 01:45:10 | blaboo | what language? |
| 01:45:12 | captain_proton | blaboo: as much as possible |
| 01:45:18 | captain_proton | blaboo: how about C++ |
| 01:46:15 | blaboo | welly well, i think that we should use c# |
| 01:46:18 | blaboo | i like that note |
| 01:46:32 | blaboo | its de flattest floppiest thing out there |
| 01:46:32 | captain_proton | haha |
| 01:46:58 | blaboo | ok, C++, but maybe i'll look into ML in parallel |
| 01:47:20 | blaboo | so, the idea is to have support for all kinds of input files |
| 01:47:27 | blaboo | this is probably already done? |
| 01:47:34 | captain_proton | well |
| 01:47:38 | blaboo | render out to .wav, .ogg? |
| 01:47:42 | captain_proton | sound stuff can be done through libaudiofile |
| 01:47:49 | captain_proton | sounds good |
| 01:48:03 | blaboo | yeah, we should check out the interface for libaudiofile |
| 01:48:34 | blaboo | we don't want to get wild and crazy with the interface yet |
| 01:48:39 | captain_proton | actually libsndfile looks a little more complete |
| 01:48:49 | blaboo | ok well we should review them |
| 01:50:48 | blaboo | we need some way for plugins to work |
| 01:50:48 | captain_proton | nvm - audiofile is better :) |
| 01:50:49 | blaboo | external effects |
| 01:50:57 | blaboo | nvm? nevermind? |
| 01:51:02 | captain_proton | yup |
| 01:51:15 | blaboo | multithreaded stuff |
| 01:51:18 | blaboo | i will have to learn gtk |
| 01:51:21 | blaboo | or should we use qt? |
| 01:51:26 | captain_proton | gtk is -really- easy |
| 01:51:34 | captain_proton | i've never done qt |
| 01:52:08 | blaboo | i see |
| 01:52:34 | blaboo | hmm, i think i should do my research until may 15th, then from there i will have more free time |
| 01:52:45 | blaboo | until then, why don't you come up with a plan and classes |
| 01:52:58 | blaboo | flesh them out, go through the steps, etc |
| 01:53:14 | blaboo | i don't know too much about software engineering |
| 01:53:20 | blaboo | i can code though |
| 01:53:25 | blaboo | suggest we use emacs? |
| 01:54:31 | blaboo | ;) |
| 01:54:35 | blaboo | um, we could use java |
| 01:54:44 | blaboo | i would like to investigate some of the speech api |
| 01:55:32 | captain_proton | knows no java |
| 01:56:01 | blaboo | time to learn! |
| 01:56:07 | captain_proton | java is also dog slow |
| 01:56:13 | | rcam was last seen on #bzflag 7 days, 3 hours, 56 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: is away: I'm busy [Wed Apr 17 22:59:21 2002] |
| 01:56:13 | jacques | ibot: seen rcam |
| 01:56:21 | jacques | lol |
| 01:57:27 | captain_proton | and we want this to be FAST |
| 01:58:15 | blaboo | yeah, thats true |
| 01:59:14 | blaboo | but java will get there |
| 01:59:18 | blaboo | its a far better language |
| 01:59:47 | blaboo | rcam come back! |
| 02:00:05 | blaboo | goes to check on 100k a sec windows transfer |
| 02:15:48 | blaboo | so prot, i'm gonna go check out fruity loops and think about what this thing of ours will need |
| 02:16:01 | blaboo | we want a synth, or a tracker, or a tracker plus synth plus ... |
| 02:16:10 | captain_proton | what exactly is a tracker? |
| 02:16:52 | blaboo | i believe that is where you line up your sounds in the proper order |
| 02:16:58 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 02:17:01 | captain_proton | we certainly want that |
| 02:17:12 | blaboo | eg. like specifying the melody, harmony of the various lines |
| 02:17:26 | blaboo | i would rather have that than a synth |
| 02:17:41 | blaboo | maybe we could just hack on soundtracker? |
| 02:19:20 | captain_proton | soundtracker looks gross |
| 02:19:30 | blaboo | yeah, it does need a huge amount of work |
| 02:19:38 | blaboo | i've got it compiling now |
| 02:19:41 | blaboo | ooops, tea time! |
| 02:19:52 | captain_proton | i think it would probably be easier to architect something from the ground up |
| 02:20:09 | blaboo | yeah, this is why i would rather use java |
| 02:20:15 | blaboo | it will get much much faster in the future |
| 02:20:18 | blaboo | and is already quick enough |
| 02:20:27 | captain_proton | its not quick enough |
| 02:20:32 | blaboo | the benefit will be that the code will be a million times clearer |
| 02:20:38 | captain_proton | not for real-time synth |
| 02:20:57 | captain_proton | blaboo: i've never seen TRULY clean java |
| 02:20:58 | blaboo | i dunno, you can get it pretty tight |
| 02:21:19 | blaboo | they will have a gcc frontend for all the swing stuff and the code will be optimum |
| 02:23:09 | blaboo | captain_proton: java is much nicer and cleaner |
| 02:23:23 | captain_proton | blaboo: well-written C++ is just as nice and clean |
| 02:23:42 | blaboo | C++ is on the way out. its legacy |
| 02:23:53 | blaboo | goners! |
| 02:24:56 | blaboo | that is why i really want to get into ML |
| 02:25:12 | blaboo | hell, all of imperative programming should be on its way out |
| 02:25:50 | Widget | C is in the way in! |
| 02:26:27 | blaboo | C is in the way, yes |
| 02:26:39 | captain_proton | hah |
| 02:26:53 | Widget | Eiffel! |
| 02:26:56 | blaboo | i wonder when i get my grades back |
| 02:27:05 | blaboo | let me predict, A+, A+, A+, A+, A+ |
| 02:27:30 | blaboo | what does it mean? abstatuely notin |
| 02:27:32 | Widget | No, I won't let you predict. |
| 02:27:51 | blaboo | man, i want a turntable, but they are 600 bucks |
| 02:28:05 | Widget | I hate my Mac. |
| 02:28:38 | Widget | Keep it to yourself! |
| 02:28:44 | Widget | Keep it to yourself! |
| 03:12:40 | scanline | is back (gone 07:25:07) |
| 03:29:23 | scanline | is away: playing AD&D |
| 03:37:38 | blaboo | yo proton |
| 03:37:40 | blaboo | what would you suggest for cd writing under linux? |
| 03:39:41 | captain_proton | cdrecord :) |
| 03:39:44 | blaboo | gui |
| 03:39:52 | captain_proton | i wouldn't know |
| 03:39:57 | blaboo | or tell me how to do files with cdrecord |
| 03:40:03 | blaboo | say i want a simple iso of just a directory tree |
| 03:40:12 | blaboo | say /home/blaboo/mp3/t |
| 03:40:30 | captain_proton | mkisofs -v -v -o /tmp/image.iso t |
| 03:40:35 | captain_proton | i like to add -r -J too |
| 03:41:01 | blaboo | lets see if i have mkisofs |
| 03:41:14 | blaboo | you crazy command line bitch |
| 03:41:31 | captain_proton | haha |
| 03:41:56 | blaboo | what are the options for? |
| 03:42:07 | captain_proton | -v -v are just verbosity |
| 03:42:11 | captain_proton | -o - output |
| 03:42:16 | captain_proton | -r - rockridge extensions |
| 03:42:17 | blaboo | -r, -j? |
| 03:42:22 | captain_proton | -J - joliet extensions |
| 03:42:26 | captain_proton | capital J |
| 03:42:41 | blaboo | whats the diff? |
| 03:42:50 | blaboo | rockridge gives me more? |
| 03:42:52 | captain_proton | between j and J? |
| 03:42:54 | blaboo | how does joliet help |
| 03:43:06 | captain_proton | those extensions allow things like long file names on all systems |
| 03:43:23 | captain_proton | rockridge preserves file permissions |
| 03:43:39 | blaboo | well holy fuck here we go |
| 03:43:49 | blaboo | any way i can check them to make sure i like? |
| 03:43:55 | captain_proton | hmm? |
| 03:44:01 | captain_proton | check the iso image? |
| 03:44:02 | blaboo | before i burn like |
| 03:44:18 | blaboo | uh oh, no space left on device... |
| 03:44:21 | captain_proton | mount -o loop,ro <image> <mount point> |
| 03:44:52 | blaboo | i need root for this? |
| 03:44:58 | captain_proton | maybe |
| 03:45:04 | captain_proton | depends on how you've got your system set up |
| 03:45:13 | blaboo | i see |
| 03:45:22 | blaboo | well thanks, how to do music cd's like this? |
| 03:45:25 | blaboo | isn't command line fun |
| 03:45:32 | blaboo | don't have to worry about all that gui junk |
| 03:45:38 | captain_proton | for music cds you hand cdrecord a bunch of tracks |
| 03:45:44 | captain_proton | (wav files) |
| 03:45:55 | blaboo | ok how do i slop that iso to a disk? |
| 03:46:10 | captain_proton | first do 'cdrecord -scanbus' |
| 03:46:23 | blaboo | gotta do the scsi stuff first :( |
| 03:46:32 | captain_proton | fun |
| 03:47:47 | blaboo | looks like i got a kernel recompile due |
| 03:48:02 | blaboo | isn't linux fun... |
| 03:48:34 | captain_proton | YAAAAY! |
| 03:49:08 | Widget | Hm. |
| 03:49:15 | Widget | Back. |
| 03:50:24 | blaboo | know how to pass multiple commands to the kernel? |
| 03:50:25 | blaboo | eg |
| 03:50:30 | blaboo | append="video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr,hdc=scsi" |
| 03:50:33 | blaboo | will this work? |
| 03:50:43 | captain_proton | should |
| 03:51:04 | blaboo | lets hope my machine doesn't crash |
| 03:51:19 | blaboo | man i see why no one uses linux... |
| 03:51:42 | blaboo | now if you'll excuse me, i'll upgrade mozilla |
| 03:52:52 | blaboo | and reboot |
| 03:56:05 | blaboo | ok, what was that command prot? |
| 03:56:35 | blaboo | proton, report! |
| 03:57:34 | captain_proton | cdrecord -scanbus |
| 03:57:38 | blaboo | done |
| 03:57:47 | blaboo | got a cdrw4420a |
| 03:57:54 | blaboo | ^^^^^^^^^^^420^ |
| 03:57:57 | captain_proton | on 0,0,0 ? |
| 03:58:02 | blaboo | zip zip zip, yet |
| 03:58:05 | blaboo | yep |
| 03:58:30 | captain_proton | cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=4 -v -v image.iso <insert # for maximum burning rate> |
| 03:58:54 | blaboo | it says: "no disk" |
| 03:58:56 | blaboo | what do i do? |
| 03:58:59 | blaboo | ;) |
| 03:59:04 | captain_proton | geez |
| 03:59:14 | captain_proton | press the 'eject' button on the drive |
| 03:59:17 | captain_proton | put a cdr into it |
| 03:59:20 | captain_proton | press the button again |
| 03:59:39 | captain_proton | mutters something about that amazing canadian intellect |
| 03:59:54 | captain_proton | brb - printing something |
| 03:59:59 | blaboo | lookout bitches! |
| 04:00:07 | blaboo | countdown |
| 04:04:27 | blaboo | holy fuck it works |
| 04:04:31 | blaboo | i'll never be the same again |
| 04:04:36 | blaboo | thank you captain blue fairy |
| 04:05:10 | blaboo | and thank you captain blue vogon jeltz fairy |
| 04:07:44 | captain_proton | blaboo: "captain blue fairy" ? |
| 04:22:55 | blaboo | captain meq fairy |
| 04:23:35 | blaboo | captain meq fairly good but not great z00 owns phones you up to tell you you're dead, red, er, read it later, feed some gaters your blue carcass |
| 04:24:02 | blaboo | now how do i erase a cd? |
| 04:25:01 | captain_proton | cdrw? |
| 04:25:06 | blaboo | yeah |
| 04:25:13 | captain_proton | cdrecord dev=0,0,0 blank=fast |
| 04:25:53 | blaboo | proton, none of the stuff on here works |
| 04:25:57 | blaboo | all the mp3s are blank! |
| 04:27:16 | blaboo | should i have both -R and -J? |
| 04:27:36 | captain_proton | -r -J |
| 04:27:45 | blaboo | -r does? |
| 04:28:33 | blaboo | ok nuum reads the man page |
| 04:28:40 | blaboo | now let me try this again |
| 04:29:06 | blaboo | need loopback support in the kernel! |
| 04:29:25 | captain_proton | w00000! |
| 04:29:28 | captain_proton | hugs his xv |
| 04:29:35 | blaboo | xv? |
| 04:29:41 | captain_proton | xvideo |
| 04:29:48 | blaboo | whats it good for? |
| 04:29:48 | captain_proton | YUV overlay support |
| 04:29:57 | blaboo | YUV? |
| 04:30:07 | blaboo | is it nice and fast? or crappy like most other X stuff |
| 04:30:16 | captain_proton | its a color space that allows scaling to just about any resolution without any real processor overhead |
| 04:30:26 | blaboo | ah, nice |
| 04:30:33 | captain_proton | good for watching movies |
| 04:30:35 | blaboo | so i can watch movies real nice |
| 04:30:38 | captain_proton | now that i've got it working again |
| 04:30:43 | captain_proton | i'm going back to watching this :) |
| 04:30:46 | blaboo | you should send me some movies prot |
| 04:30:50 | blaboo | got transformers? |
| 04:30:54 | captain_proton | nope |
| 04:31:30 | blaboo | how about monty python? |
| 04:32:04 | captain_proton | got the holy grail |
| 04:32:09 | captain_proton | i've got a good # of the episodes too |
| 04:32:14 | blaboo | how to burn again? |
| 04:32:28 | captain_proton | scroll farking up |
| 04:32:47 | blaboo | help me blue fairy |
| 04:32:49 | captain_proton | i'm going to fullscreen now |
| 04:33:15 | blaboo | no good blue fairy |
| 04:33:24 | blaboo | i hope your machine crashes and you convert to windows |
| 04:52:03 | MrApathyCream | push a button.... oh wait, it's not windoze, hold on.... |
| 04:53:16 | captain_proton | haha |
| 04:54:12 | blaboo | bwahahahahaha |
| 04:54:37 | blaboo | any work today cream? |
| 04:55:44 | MrApathyCream | nope, just sittin being lazy waitin' for that 1.8 momentum to kick in |
| 04:55:54 | blaboo | um, what momentum? |
| 04:55:59 | MrApathyCream | Hey, what's this ???? lots of 1.8 checkins..... cool |
| 04:56:05 | blaboo | wow |
| 04:56:25 | MrApathyCream | Erg, my bad, THERE'S NOTHING NEW .... AGAIN!!! |
| 04:57:20 | blaboo | hey, i submitted |
| 04:57:51 | MrApathyCream | not in cvs, though |
| 04:58:12 | blaboo | go get the new stuff from SF |
| 04:58:22 | blaboo | but yeah, it would be nice to see some progress on CVS |
| 04:58:36 | blaboo | like all those patches working their way in... |
| 04:58:55 | blaboo | might give us the feeling like development is happening... |
| 04:59:01 | MrApathyCream | Let's start a pool as to when tanks, oh, I dunno, actually explode!!! I'll pick 11/23/02 |
| 04:59:20 | blaboo | 23rd month, 11 day? |
| 04:59:35 | MrApathyCream | american formet |
| 04:59:57 | blaboo | yeah, exploding tanks, why not? |
| 05:00:04 | blaboo | how hard is it really? |
| 05:00:05 | blaboo | cmon |
| 05:00:44 | MrApathyCream | radical development changes alienate developers.... Death knell for open source development |
| 05:01:08 | MrApathyCream | Should have just gently transformed 1.7->1.8 |
| 05:02:14 | blaboo | wtf, i think 1.8 should be out now and we can let the players pressure us |
| 05:02:29 | blaboo | fix up a few little bugs and say, "here it is boys, enjoy" |
| 05:02:40 | MrApathyCream | The real reason (imo) that 1.8 should be done, hasn't even started yet really... |
| 05:02:50 | blaboo | what is the real reason? |
| 05:02:59 | MrApathyCream | Network improvements, lag reduction, |
| 05:03:11 | blaboo | yeah, my gravity idea not fly? |
| 05:03:37 | MrApathyCream | No one would bother putting it in, cause we're all waiting for the code to be ready to start |
| 05:03:51 | MrApathyCream | I don't have any idea when or what that is |
| 05:04:11 | blaboo | what code? start now, the code you can download! |
| 05:04:27 | MrApathyCream | There's gonna be massive changes coming, either from crs or riker, i suppose |
| 05:04:28 | blaboo | no, my idea about localization of packet sending |
| 05:04:40 | blaboo | massive changes? |
| 05:04:45 | MrApathyCream | Till then, it seems silly to do anything to core |
| 05:04:54 | blaboo | then work on the UI |
| 05:04:59 | blaboo | it needs sooooo much more work |
| 05:05:08 | MrApathyCream | Eh, in my mind, the game was ok as it was |
| 05:05:22 | MrApathyCream | I just wanted it to go faster |
| 05:05:24 | blaboo | we're talking more options like targetting styles |
| 05:05:38 | blaboo | a better console with more indicators |
| 05:05:47 | blaboo | not console, but display type thing |
| 05:05:48 | MrApathyCream | doesn't float my boat |
| 05:05:57 | Widget | I like the 1.7 ui. |
| 05:06:04 | Widget | It's too hard to see the small messages up at the top left. |
| 05:06:08 | blaboo | um, better graphics for the ground, land, buildings |
| 05:06:13 | MrApathyCream | The game for me would be better if lag was reduced, had new flags, had new game styles |
| 05:06:16 | Widget | And I don't like how it scrolls up by itself, and you can't scroll it. |
| 05:06:17 | MrApathyCream | that kind of thing |
| 05:06:20 | blaboo | Widget: you can change that all in the data dir |
| 05:06:22 | Widget | Yes, I agree. |
| 05:06:46 | blaboo | MrApathyCream: yeah, both building styles and multiple levels |
| 05:06:47 | MrApathyCream | I don't really care how 'configurable it is' |
| 05:07:08 | blaboo | MrApathyCream: more flags? i dunno |
| 05:07:24 | blaboo | maybe a restricted set on each level, tasteful, suited to the level like |
| 05:07:30 | blaboo | for a multilevel you would need that |
| 05:07:36 | blaboo | 1.8 looks infinitely better than 1.7 |
| 05:07:44 | MrApathyCream | not more (in volume) but more in different types |
| 05:08:12 | MrApathyCream | 1.8 looks absolutely crappy to me, as it is 'out of box' |
| 05:08:29 | MrApathyCream | perhaps you can configure it to be better, but i don't want to bother |
| 05:09:06 | blaboo | yeah, a better look is needed |
| 05:09:09 | blaboo | why not do it? |
| 05:09:54 | blaboo | anyway, off to the bar |
| 05:11:37 | onthemark | hey all |
| 05:22:32 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 06:04:45 | vogon_jeltz | is away: away |
| 06:06:25 | scanline | is back (gone 02:37:03) |
| 06:19:28 | iLLf8d | anyone got a working windows server and client on the same machine? |
| 06:19:32 | iLLf8d | someones trying to set one up and everyones invisible ont he server |
| 06:33:10 | jpablo | hey, i need help. |
| 06:33:28 | jpablo | i want to use the ctf random mode, but the cvs build is really unstable. |
| 06:33:28 | MrApathyCream | we know that :) |
| 06:33:45 | MrApathyCream | how so? |
| 06:34:08 | jpablo | humm, does the ctf random mode apply to the standar 1.7e4? |
| 06:36:08 | MrApathyCream | i think just e5 |
| 06:36:56 | jpablo | anybody have a stable e5 ? |
| 06:37:07 | jpablo | like the one used on ducati, or bhaskara ? |
| 06:37:17 | MrApathyCream | cvs |
| 06:37:39 | jpablo | but is not stable. |
| 06:37:44 | jpablo | it's unusable. |
| 06:37:53 | MrApathyCream | how so? |
| 06:38:32 | jpablo | i need a somewhat working server with two ctf mode. |
| 06:40:33 | MrApathyCream | what problems are you experiencing with e5? |
| 06:41:03 | jpablo | i'm not seeing other peoples shoots, when someone die everyone die, etc. |
| 06:41:14 | jpablo | non-usable. |
| 06:42:25 | MrApathyCream | just stipulate that everyone needs to be an e5 client and it will work, i think |
| 06:42:39 | jpablo | no it doesn't. |
| 07:35:44 | Pinguin | Morning ... |
| 07:45:42 | captain_proton | woohoo! |
| 07:45:52 | captain_proton | by tomorrow i should have all of the hitchhiker's guides =) |
| 10:49:40 | vogon_jeltz | is away: bleh. |
| 11:55:40 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 13:41:36 | scanline | is away: pseudo-food-like-something-or-other |
| 14:06:31 | scanline | is back (gone 00:24:54) |
| 14:29:56 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 14:30:09 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 15:44:22 | scanline | is away: class |
| 19:23:36 | | Chestal: what? |
| 19:23:36 | Chestal | ibot, x nl en een hond eet per dag |
| 19:23:39 | | Chestal: excuse me? |
| 19:23:39 | Chestal | ibot: grrr |
| 19:23:48 | | Chestal: huh? |
| 19:23:48 | Chestal | ibot: shut up, dear bot |
| 19:34:57 | Chestal | someone speakign dutch in here? |
| 21:51:17 | scanline | is back (gone 06:06:55) |
| 22:23:43 | T-34 | Hi tankers & Good night ! :) |
| 22:42:29 | scanline | is away: still building a space invaders game with logic gates |