| 00:14:44 | vogon_jeltz | "You want the truth? You want the truth?? You can't handle the truth! No truth-handler, you; I deride your truth-handling abilities!" |
| 00:15:14 | blaboo | wow, xchat |
| 00:15:23 | vogon_jeltz | I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Simpsons rocks. |
| 00:15:36 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: and you'll be wrong again |
| 00:15:41 | blaboo | simpsons owns |
| 00:15:42 | captain_proton | blaboo: got the emporer concerto |
| 00:15:52 | captain_proton | grins |
| 00:15:58 | blaboo | now i' |
| 00:16:08 | blaboo | i'm dccing you out of xchat, but its queued |
| 00:16:13 | blaboo | i think its your end |
| 00:16:22 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:16:28 | captain_proton | could be the university maybe |
| 00:16:39 | blaboo | that and xchat sucks |
| 00:17:07 | vogon_jeltz | don't be dissing X-Chat, motherbitches. |
| 00:17:27 | blaboo | smithers, i wish to donate 1 millions dollars to the orphanage... |
| 00:17:29 | fontenot | what's wrong with xchat? |
| 00:17:32 | blaboo | when pigs fly! bwahahahahahaha |
| 00:17:46 | blaboo | (pig flies across nuclear cooling towers...) |
| 00:17:51 | vogon_jeltz | Are you going to make that donation now? |
| 00:17:55 | vogon_jeltz | No, I'd still rather not. |
| 00:18:01 | blaboo | hahahahahahaha |
| 00:18:18 | blaboo | oh it works on so many levels |
| 00:19:08 | blaboo | let me see if i can send jeltz something dcc style |
| 00:19:24 | vogon_jeltz | yeah. |
| 00:19:27 | blaboo | yup |
| 00:19:28 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: DCC me something |
| 00:20:25 | captain_proton | works fine |
| 00:20:29 | vogon_jeltz | yeup. |
| 00:20:33 | captain_proton | goes to look at what vogon_jeltz sent him |
| 00:20:37 | blaboo | proton must not love me |
| 00:20:40 | captain_proton | PROPRIETARY CODE! BWAHAHAHAHA! |
| 00:20:47 | vogon_jeltz | hahah. |
| 00:20:56 | blaboo | source to the windows operating system? |
| 00:20:57 | vogon_jeltz | dude, it's a proof-of-concept Ogg player. |
| 00:21:04 | vogon_jeltz | that, if memory serves, I've already sent you. |
| 00:21:20 | captain_proton | haha i know |
| 00:21:37 | blaboo | man i'm a good napster user. people can actually download stuff from me. |
| 00:22:03 | captain_proton | yes blaboo, you're quite the civil servant |
| 00:22:26 | captain_proton | blaboo: about the menus, i like the in-game push menu, but not the startup stuff |
| 00:22:29 | vogon_jeltz | I love all the morons on Gnutella who can't figure out how to un-NAT their IP addresses. |
| 00:22:41 | vogon_jeltz | so you get a bunch of crap from IP addresses like 192.168.0.4 |
| 00:22:55 | captain_proton | i think a skunk pissed on my roommate |
| 00:23:05 | blaboo | proton: what don't you like about the startup? |
| 00:23:07 | blaboo | too black? |
| 00:23:16 | captain_proton | blaboo: the location of the menuptr, the layout... |
| 00:23:18 | blaboo | i want something on the right hand side (eg. live game, rotating tank) |
| 00:23:22 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: classy conversation we've got here, huh? |
| 00:23:27 | blaboo | i want the menupointer on the left |
| 00:23:31 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: damn straight |
| 00:23:34 | captain_proton | blaboo: me too |
| 00:23:36 | blaboo | you guys got style |
| 00:23:42 | blaboo | well how?!?! |
| 00:23:46 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: you need to burp when you say that. |
| 00:24:13 | blaboo | i would like it all to be spaced properly with submenus |
| 00:24:23 | blaboo | the server stuff should go on the right hand side |
| 00:24:32 | blaboo | the server lookup should be threaded |
| 00:24:59 | blaboo | the lookup thread should augment a datamodel and then the table should repaint itself if necessary |
| 00:25:06 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, and I should have a girlfriend, but it's not going to happen. |
| 00:25:08 | blaboo | the table should be in a scrollpane |
| 00:25:18 | blaboo | etc etc... |
| 00:25:30 | captain_proton | burps |
| 00:25:33 | blaboo | lose some weight, jeltz! |
| 00:25:40 | blaboo | girls are easy dood. |
| 00:25:51 | blaboo | a cute little vogon like you should have no problem |
| 00:26:03 | captain_proton | not if you care about things like intelligence |
| 00:26:14 | vogon_jeltz | laughs his ass off at blaboo's sarcasm |
| 00:26:24 | blaboo | intel? |
| 00:26:44 | blaboo | my last girlfriends folks were professors... |
| 00:26:58 | blaboo | she was smart, they were smart |
| 00:27:05 | blaboo | i had to bury their bodies out in the back tho |
| 00:27:11 | captain_proton | blaboo: she was your girlfriend - how smart could she have been? ;) |
| 00:27:18 | vogon_jeltz | and you're probably infinitely more attractive than I am. |
| 00:27:46 | blaboo | she could probably tool your ass at graph theory any day of the week, hows that! |
| 00:28:10 | blaboo | bah, girls aren't into attractive |
| 00:28:28 | captain_proton | blaboo: still doesn't preclude the fact that she would go out with *you* |
| 00:28:28 | vogon_jeltz | then you must be living in some parallel universe. |
| 00:28:51 | blaboo | man if you guys only knew... |
| 00:29:10 | blaboo | maybe its an american thing? |
| 00:29:17 | vogon_jeltz | blaboo: possibly. |
| 00:29:29 | vogon_jeltz | blaboo: Canada's weird like that. |
| 00:29:45 | vogon_jeltz | blaboo: people are actually sane up there. |
| 00:29:46 | blaboo | cute girls from all over the world? |
| 00:30:26 | blaboo | speaking of which... |
| 00:30:41 | blaboo | proton, i gotta get you some boc |
| 00:30:52 | captain_proton | blaboo: boards of canada? |
| 00:31:02 | vogon_jeltz | the closest thing I currently have to a girlfriend is a 22-year-old geekgrrl living in Norway. |
| 00:31:02 | blaboo | in particular, one song |
| 00:31:12 | vogon_jeltz | who I met over IRC. |
| 00:31:13 | blaboo | 22 years eh. norway eh. |
| 00:31:20 | blaboo | careful dood, they are usually not women |
| 00:31:24 | vogon_jeltz | bah. |
| 00:31:27 | | which is calling something like /bin/bash, or /usr/bin/perl, or something like that? |
| 00:31:27 | captain_proton | blaboo: which? |
| 00:31:33 | blaboo | proton: see if you can get "pete standing alone" |
| 00:31:36 | vogon_jeltz | blaboo: I'm fairly sure she is. |
| 00:31:43 | blaboo | the boc intentionally do as low fi as they can find |
| 00:31:46 | vogon_jeltz | blaboo: I know her well enough. |
| 00:32:07 | captain_proton | blaboo: i've got a good amount of boc but not that one |
| 00:32:09 | blaboo | then turn up your stereo |
| 00:32:13 | blaboo | proton: albums? |
| 00:32:20 | blaboo | proton: music has the right to children? |
| 00:32:21 | captain_proton | blaboo: just selected songs |
| 00:32:51 | blaboo | i find boc good when i don't want to listen tooooo hard |
| 00:33:12 | captain_proton | i find all electronic music good for that ;) |
| 00:33:19 | blaboo | repetitive minimalistic boc |
| 00:33:32 | blaboo | i dunno, aphex has some pretty challenging stuff |
| 00:33:54 | blaboo | hard to consider certain people "composers" tho |
| 00:34:19 | blaboo | you have roygbiv? |
| 00:34:43 | blaboo | hip hop! |
| 00:34:53 | captain_proton | no hip hop wanted here |
| 00:35:22 | vogon_jeltz | what, you don't like songs about your niggaz busting caps in whitey's ass? |
| 00:35:24 | blaboo | you just get a bad taste from the crappy music others play |
| 00:35:54 | captain_proton | blaboo: one of my friends (who in general has decent taste) listens to hip-hop - i've heard the good stuff, i'm not interested in it |
| 00:36:08 | blaboo | listen to boc roygbiv |
| 00:36:30 | captain_proton | brb - buying liquid |
| 00:36:37 | blaboo | lsd? |
| 00:39:16 | blaboo | well i'm out |
| 00:51:53 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:52:05 | captain_proton | gene ray is a delinquent bastard |
| 00:57:22 | vogon_jeltz | hey, cap. |
| 00:57:27 | vogon_jeltz | you have a PGP keypair? |
| 00:59:52 | scanline | is back (gone 07:13:21) |
| 02:02:24 | Widget | Hello, all. |
| 02:04:34 | jacques | hi |
| 02:17:39 | captain_proton | doobeedoo |
| 02:22:27 | scanline | is away: getting blown up |
| 02:27:01 | captain_proton | livejournal is the slowest POS i've ever seen |
| 02:28:07 | vogon_jeltz | so true. |
| 02:28:18 | captain_proton | whatz j00r username? |
| 02:28:22 | vogon_jeltz | *cough* |
| 02:28:26 | vogon_jeltz | you're looking at it. |
| 02:28:58 | vogon_jeltz | did you get an account? |
| 02:29:52 | captain_proton | no |
| 02:30:26 | vogon_jeltz | then why are you visiting it? |
| 02:30:31 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 02:31:01 | vogon_jeltz | get an account and I'll be able to FRIST PSOT your journal entries. |
| 02:31:08 | captain_proton | hah |
| 02:31:19 | captain_proton | Sending request to livejournal.com... |
| 02:31:58 | vogon_jeltz | all of the unsubscribed people get the crappy servers that are powered by narcoleptic hamsters on wheels. |
| 02:33:47 | captain_proton | narcoleptic hamsters .... |
| 02:39:06 | captain_proton | is bored |
| 02:40:02 | vogon_jeltz | why not get a LiveJournal account? ;) |
| 02:40:12 | captain_proton | blah |
| 02:40:37 | captain_proton | omg |
| 02:40:41 | captain_proton | i'm actually considering it |
| 02:40:45 | captain_proton | kill me now |
| 02:41:05 | vogon_jeltz | dude, it's not that bad. |
| 02:41:10 | vogon_jeltz | jooooiiiin uuuuuus |
| 02:41:29 | captain_proton | is a kult killer |
| 02:44:14 | vogon_jeltz | I'll be more than happy to get you a registration code. |
| 02:44:28 | captain_proton | hah |
| 02:45:12 | captain_proton | fix mr wiggly and i'll consider it |
| 02:45:52 | vogon_jeltz | [captain_proton] mr wiggly is far too much fun | * captain_proton pokes vogon_jeltz in the eye with a shaft |
| 02:47:48 | | -8.434 |
| 02:47:48 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, -206.519 - -198.085 |
| 02:48:27 | | 24.585 |
| 02:48:27 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, -113.932 - -138.517 |
| 02:48:53 | | -214.953 |
| 02:48:53 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, -206.519 - 8.434 |
| 02:49:16 | | -89.347 |
| 02:49:16 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, -113.932 + 24.585 |
| 02:49:34 | | captain_proton: what? |
| 02:49:35 | captain_proton | ibot, tell vogon_jeltz to shut up |
| 02:49:42 | captain_proton | ]=) |
| 02:50:13 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: you're just jealous of my m4d l337 LiveJournal account. |
| 02:51:11 | captain_proton | hah |
| 04:12:12 | Widget | Hm.... BZFlag 1.8 crashed on me. |
| 04:12:24 | Widget | When I tried to join a server with an '@' in front of my name. |
| 04:36:32 | captain_proton | pokes MrApathyCream in the belly |
| 04:37:53 | MrApathyCream | ooooof |
| 04:39:37 | captain_proton | whazzup dood? |
| 04:47:03 | captain_proton | wb vogon_jeltz |
| 04:47:23 | vogon_jeltz | heya. |
| 04:47:51 | captain_proton | is off to finish up mr wiggly |
| 04:47:58 | captain_proton | hopefully |
| 04:48:02 | captain_proton | unless the lab is full |
| 04:48:12 | captain_proton | in which case i get to come back and wait for a while |
| 06:03:20 | blaboo | yo |
| 06:15:49 | jpablo_ | see the bhaskara ctf |
| 06:15:56 | jpablo_ | i and drs have _a lot_ of frags :-) |
| 06:17:18 | jpablo_ | like 800+ |
| 06:20:28 | jacques | wo |
| 06:20:30 | jacques | ww |
| 06:20:32 | jacques | wow |
| 06:20:36 | jacques | cant ttype |
| 06:21:08 | jpablo | wow |
| 06:21:12 | jpablo | that was nice. |
| 06:23:06 | captain_proton | w00t! |
| 06:23:35 | captain_proton | all the bugs worked out |
| 06:30:04 | onthemark | hey all |
| 06:30:32 | jacques | hi onthemark |
| 06:30:50 | onthemark | hows it goin jacques? |
| 06:39:23 | nuum | w00t! work that wiggly in |
| 06:39:47 | vogon_jeltz | for some reason, the OpenBSD 3.1 release song actually rocks. |
| 06:39:55 | vogon_jeltz | crazy, man. |
| 06:40:34 | nuum | openBSD3.1 release song? |
| 06:41:14 | vogon_jeltz | yes. |
| 06:41:28 | jacques | well I guess since rock and roll is the music of the devil... |
| 06:41:39 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html |
| 06:41:59 | | i already had it that way, nuum. |
| 06:41:59 | nuum | oh great horned one, what is the meaning of rock? |
| 06:42:12 | jacques | ?? lol |
| 06:42:17 | nuum | no, the line is: |
| 06:42:20 | | vogon_jeltz: wish i knew |
| 06:42:20 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, oh great horned one, what |
| 06:42:25 | | vogon_jeltz: what? |
| 06:42:25 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, oh great horned one, \what |
| 06:42:28 | vogon_jeltz | grumble. |
| 06:42:34 | jacques | what? |
| 06:42:38 | | jacques: wish i knew |
| 06:42:38 | jacques | ibot: what? |
| 06:42:49 | jacques | ibot: search for what |
| 06:43:16 | jacques | i wish he whuld show all hits instead of just 5 |
| 06:45:06 | vogon_jeltz | o/~ BSD fight buffer reign / Flowing blood in circuit vein / Quagmire, Hellfire, RAMhead Count / Puffy rip attacker out o/~ |
| 06:45:40 | captain_proton | um vogon_jeltz |
| 06:45:43 | captain_proton | thats not 'music' |
| 06:46:35 | nuum | yo proton, check out the latest iteration of the menus... |
| 06:46:53 | captain_proton | wheres? |
| 06:47:04 | nuum | guess i gotta mail them too ya |
| 06:47:05 | nuum | to ya |
| 06:47:19 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: heh. |
| 06:47:46 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: it's close enough. |
| 06:48:13 | nuum | i should prolly send you a patch for the Menu.cxx too |
| 06:48:23 | nuum | got the square menuptr on the left hand side... |
| 06:55:01 | captain_proton | goes to shower |
| 07:17:12 | captain_proton | decides its time for some cirque du soleil music |
| 07:28:34 | captain_proton | hi tim |
| 07:28:53 | vogon_jeltz | heya, tim. |
| 07:34:44 | captain_proton | yawns |
| 07:56:59 | | captain_proton: i'm not following you... |
| 07:56:59 | captain_proton | ibot: you're too happy a bot |
| 07:59:53 | captain_proton | decides to burn the first few episodes of dr who |
| 13:45:24 | | it has been said that tuxbox is a cool linux console. For information, go to http://www.tuxboxproject.com/ tuxbox is also the name of travis' stupid ink-bashing excuse for a bot. |
| 13:45:24 | tad_ | ibot tuxbox? |
| 13:46:14 | | tuxscreen is http://TuxScreen.net/ order at http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Users/TimRiker and http://tuxscreen.net/scrapbook/images.html or #TuxScreen |
| 13:46:14 | tad_ | ibot tuxscreen? |
| 13:46:42 | | linux is, like, ruling the world of Open Source! http://www.linux.org |
| 13:46:42 | tad_ | ibot linux |
| 13:47:28 | Guest | cool |
| 13:47:34 | Guest | anyone here? |
| 13:49:23 | Widget | San min zhuyi! |
| 14:09:37 | Chestal | re |
| 17:15:34 | RiSeMaN | hi all |
| 17:36:52 | Chestal | Valoche is back and alive, but busy |
| 17:49:19 | jpablo | morning |
| 17:49:40 | arathorn | evenning:)) |
| 17:50:59 | jpablo | yeah, evenning already, but i just wake up :-) |
| 17:59:12 | arathorn | ok than...goooooooooood morning my neighbour |
| 18:00:39 | jpablo | hehe. |
| 18:00:52 | arathorn | ;))) |
| 19:24:35 | blaboo | yo |
| 19:24:38 | blaboo | anyone awake? |
| 19:28:03 | captain_proton | no |
| 19:28:53 | blaboo | yo proton |
| 19:29:03 | blaboo | how you hangin this morning? |
| 19:29:34 | blaboo | check out the data dir i sent? |
| 19:30:49 | blaboo | you know what this game needs is a big RCAM logo |
| 19:36:44 | blaboo | dood, i steamrolled some guy last night! |
| 19:36:49 | blaboo | it was beauty |
| 19:37:22 | Chestal | proton: Valoche is actually alive |
| 19:37:27 | blaboo | he was coming up all tough, huntin me down |
| 19:37:37 | blaboo | next thing you know he's bouncing into a trap |
| 19:37:48 | Chestal | played a nice ctf on bhaskara |
| 19:37:59 | Chestal | started out with a lot of newbies, which was good for my ego :-) |
| 19:37:59 | blaboo | yo chestal, replace this as your data dir |
| 19:38:17 | Chestal | ehm, 1.7 or 1.8? |
| 19:38:28 | blaboo | 1.8 |
| 19:38:38 | Chestal | oh, haven;t updated 1.8 for some time |
| 19:38:45 | Chestal | what's in it? |
| 19:38:49 | blaboo | don't matter really, these are just menu layouts |
| 19:38:56 | Chestal | 1.8 doesn't run here very well |
| 19:38:58 | blaboo | graphics, teams, etc |
| 19:39:10 | blaboo | yeah, but its just the menus |
| 19:39:29 | blaboo | i think i'm just about ready to submit it to sf as a patch |
| 19:40:07 | Chestal | I'll check it out quickly, hold on |
| 19:40:17 | Chestal | is the rcam logo in it? ;-) |
| 19:40:24 | blaboo | there could be ;) |
| 19:41:02 | blaboo | i may redo my rcam logo as "crambettygood" bzflag! |
| 19:41:59 | Chestal | updating 1.8 now, a lot of new stuff in there |
| 19:42:11 | Chestal | I don't think it's active though? rungekutta etc.? |
| 19:42:27 | blaboo | rungekutta method? wtf? |
| 19:42:40 | Chestal | suppose it's part of the new collision / shape stuff |
| 19:42:44 | blaboo | solve it analytically! |
| 19:42:48 | blaboo | ;) |
| 19:43:01 | blaboo | yeah, i haven't seen too many changes cosmetically |
| 19:43:03 | Chestal | rungekutta is for solving differential eq., right? |
| 19:43:10 | blaboo | numerical method for, yes |
| 19:43:23 | blaboo | converges quickly |
| 19:43:52 | Chestal | still making... |
| 19:44:07 | Chestal | I once heard a lecture about it, but I forget everything |
| 19:44:14 | Chestal | hated that subject anyway, it was tough |
| 19:44:34 | blaboo | its not that hard. really just coding instead of math |
| 19:44:49 | Chestal | well, it was all about numeric, r-k was just a part of it |
| 19:44:56 | blaboo | in one lecture? |
| 19:45:06 | Chestal | ayes |
| 19:45:16 | Chestal | most of it was basic stuff |
| 19:45:17 | blaboo | yeah i have math 330 (numerical analysis), got an A |
| 19:45:34 | blaboo | coded my homework in at least 5 different languages ;) |
| 19:45:37 | Chestal | but I studied computer science+electrical engineering |
| 19:45:51 | Chestal | and this lecture ws from the math department, so it was very theoretical |
| 19:45:52 | blaboo | you hold a cpsc degree? |
| 19:46:09 | Chestal | yes, for over 4 years now |
| 19:46:12 | blaboo | our prof was a physics guy interested in collapsing stars and the such |
| 19:46:26 | Chestal | I shoudl actualyl be workign on my PhD but it doesn't progress very well :-( |
| 19:46:32 | blaboo | quite interesting stuff really |
| 19:46:51 | Chestal | I like collapsing stars myself, and all those hyper/super/novae :-) |
| 19:46:52 | blaboo | anyway, check out the menus, i gotta go pay off my visa |
| 19:47:08 | Chestal | will do |
| 19:48:42 | Chestal | my PC is too slow |
| 19:55:38 | Chestal | hmm, with the new data dir, I don't see anything, all black |
| 19:55:43 | Chestal | well, have to go home now, later |
| 20:44:02 | blaboo | all black? damn |
| 20:45:50 | almogaver | hi |
| 20:49:09 | blaboo | hey almo |
| 20:49:25 | blaboo | buenas tardes |
| 21:00:06 | captain_proton | boo! |
| 21:00:15 | captain_proton | "Do you want to see our code?" "No, I want to play" |
| 21:04:21 | captain_proton | blaboo: its all black because your data dir relies on the PWR patch |
| 21:10:52 | Chestal | captain:oh? what patch is that? |
| 21:11:17 | captain_proton | Chestal: nuum's shot indicator |
| 21:11:56 | Chestal | pwr = nuum's shot indicator? ;-) |
| 21:12:16 | captain_proton | apparently |
| 21:13:11 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 21:13:35 | T-34 | Hi Hispanic teammates! |
| 21:14:12 | [HIS]_SATAN | hi t-34 |
| 21:14:20 | [HIS]_SATAN | where is the people? |
| 21:14:26 | | everyone is Disconnect |
| 21:14:26 | T-34 | Where's everyone? |
| 21:14:37 | T-34 | Why? |
| 21:14:50 | T-34 | They talked too much? |
| 21:15:15 | [HIS]_SATAN | T-34: when was the last match? |
| 21:16:24 | T-34 | They said it will be at this hour but Ducati is still out of order |
| 21:16:36 | T-34 | And this makes me so sad :( |
| 21:18:56 | Chestal | you want to play against the rats? |
| 21:19:03 | T-34 | YEap |
| 21:19:09 | T-34 | but where? |
| 21:19:29 | Chestal | Gerbil contacted me about this, well, not much I can do right now |
| 21:19:48 | almogaver | hi T-34 |
| 21:20:00 | T-34 | Hi Almo |
| 21:20:32 | T-34 | Chestal: we can wait till Ducati will be on |
| 21:51:51 | blackhound | Hello guys |
| 21:52:05 | blackhound | hola almogaver |
| 21:52:15 | blackhound | hi arathorn |
| 21:53:10 | almogaver | hola blackhound |
| 21:53:35 | almogaver | blackhound: no podemos jugar, ducati no estará hasta mañana |
| 21:53:45 | arathorn | heya blackkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!! |
| 21:53:47 | T-34 | Hi blackhound! |
| 21:54:22 | blackhound | hi T-34 \ |
| 21:54:34 | blackhound | almogaver: hay otro server con la misma configuracion |
| 21:55:07 | blackhound | btw, when is -5 gmt? |
| 21:55:16 | almogaver | blackhound: bhaskara? |
| 21:55:25 | blackhound | almogaver: ese mismo |
| 21:55:28 | almogaver | blackhound: tiene demasiado lag |
| 21:55:49 | blackhound | almogaver: cierto, ademas que no lo podemos reservar jeje |
| 21:55:51 | almogaver | blackhound: nunca bajo de 300 ms en bhaskara, pq esta demasiado lejos de aqui españa |
| 21:56:17 | almogaver | si, es el del capitán protón |
| 21:56:30 | blackhound | ok |
| 21:56:38 | almogaver | supongo que sí lo podríamos utilizar |
| 21:56:44 | blackhound | did you talk to Gerbil already? |
| 21:57:00 | almogaver | al menos, para partidas entre americanos puede ser muy útil |
| 21:57:08 | almogaver | porque supongo que ellos tendrán mejor lag ahí que en ducati |
| 21:57:30 | BZFlag | ibot: x es en al menos, para partidas entre americanos puede ser muy |
| 21:57:32 | | BZFlag: at least, for games between Americans it can very be |
| 21:57:46 | blackhound | yo tengo problemas en ducati cuando juego con dialup, pero ya no es el caso |
| 21:59:12 | blackhound | brb |
| 21:59:57 | captain_proton | blah |
| 22:00:03 | captain_proton | people need to convert worlds all over the place |
| 22:00:06 | almogaver | BZFlag: útil == useful |
| 22:01:39 | almogaver | captain_proton: why worlds in bhaskara usually have much more building than in ducati? only coincidence? |
| 22:01:50 | captain_proton | almogaver: yep - same code |
| 22:02:10 | Chestal | hmm, not 100% sure |
| 22:02:17 | Chestal | I layed with the random püarametrs |
| 22:02:20 | Chestal | argl |
| 22:02:22 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:02:25 | Chestal | I played with the random parameters once |
| 22:02:32 | Chestal | maybe our code is not exactly the same |
| 22:02:43 | captain_proton | Chestal: possibly but there are some times when bhaskara has a near-empty field |
| 22:02:55 | Chestal | captain_proton: yes, I played on an empty field today |
| 22:03:00 | Chestal | only pyramids |
| 22:03:55 | Chestal | we should get e6 finished |
| 22:03:56 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 22:04:20 | Chestal | I have los of work to do lately |
| 22:04:27 | Chestal | and whenever I have time, I am not motivate to code |
| 22:04:35 | captain_proton | Chestal: sounds like me |
| 22:06:42 | blackhound | i would like to have a read view mirror in my tank |
| 22:06:58 | almogaver | Chestal: i played one day with only four pyramids in all the map |
| 22:07:13 | almogaver | two in a corner, and two more in the opposite corner, in ducati |
| 22:07:31 | crs23 | blackhound, v1.8 will allow rearview mirror as a trivial change the view config file |
| 22:07:34 | Chestal | almogaver: that's a great map. Only downside is, that you cannot use rico |
| 22:07:42 | captain_proton | crs23: its in cvs... |
| 22:07:50 | captain_proton | crs23: all thats needed is a `toggle displayRear |
| 22:07:50 | captain_proton | =) |
| 22:07:56 | crs23 | ha! didn't know that. |
| 22:08:16 | Chestal | still considers a rearview to be half the way to cheating |
| 22:08:16 | almogaver | Chestal: i like that maps, without buildings :) |
| 22:08:35 | captain_proton | has it bound :) |
| 22:08:54 | crs23 | i wouldn't use it myself, Chestal. i agree with you and i'd probably get confused. just like when i drive a car. :) |
| 22:09:00 | captain_proton | heh |
| 22:09:15 | captain_proton | its confusing at first but you get used to it |
| 22:09:17 | Chestal | crs: yep, I always wondered what kidn of people are actually using those mirrors when driving |
| 22:09:39 | captain_proton | is glad none of you live nearby |
| 22:09:42 | Chestal | ah well, I guess it won't help peopel very much |
| 22:09:45 | Chestal | if they liek it, ok |
| 22:09:58 | crs23 | i'm reading the logs. interesting comments about ricochet. i prefer it off. |
| 22:10:06 | blackhound | cool |
| 22:10:11 | Chestal | I hated ricohet when I started playing |
| 22:10:13 | crs23 | though, i'm reasonably good with it. |
| 22:10:25 | Chestal | but today I cannot live without it |
| 22:10:44 | crs23 | i still hate jumping. |
| 22:10:49 | Chestal | me, too |
| 22:10:59 | crs23 | i like your 2 shots. very different from 1 shot but still very playable. |
| 22:11:03 | Chestal | I played on Chardonnay today, and it really sucked |
| 22:11:06 | blackhound | unless you play with superflags |
| 22:11:13 | Chestal | 4 shots, jumping, ricohet and about 100 superflags |
| 22:11:23 | crs23 | ick. |
| 22:11:40 | Chestal | crs23: a good 1 shot sever would be nice, as in the old days |
| 22:11:55 | Chestal | only 1 shot servers I played on had so much lag is was horrible |
| 22:12:03 | blackhound | there is a one shot server somewhere, its nice to play there, you can see people suffering hehe |
| 22:12:16 | captain_proton | decks is on 1-shot right now |
| 22:12:18 | Chestal | for 1 shot, lag must be very low |
| 22:12:25 | captain_proton | jumping though |
| 22:12:31 | crs23 | yes. and jumping should be off. |
| 22:12:51 | blackhound | when do you think 1.8 will be out? |
| 22:13:00 | crs23 | should there be a re-jump delay? or a delay when jumping? |
| 22:13:03 | Chestal | /msg crs23 we should secretly disable jumping for 1.8 altogether |
| 22:13:06 | Chestal | oops ;-) |
| 22:13:13 | blackhound | hehe |
| 22:13:14 | crs23 | heh! |
| 22:13:16 | captain_proton | haha Chestal |
| 22:13:38 | Chestal | a rejumpign delay migh tbe sueful as a server option |
| 22:13:42 | crs23 | i just strip out all the z-coordinates from the code |
| 22:13:47 | Chestal | I hate to try to shoot an ever-jumping tank |
| 22:13:49 | crs23 | erm, s/i/i'll/ |
| 22:13:58 | blackhound | arathorn: did you see the 2 towers movie trailer? |
| 22:13:59 | Chestal | hmm, good idea, this will lower the badnwidth used, too |
| 22:14:10 | crs23 | yeah, a server option makes sense. default to *on*! |
| 22:14:34 | almogaver | i was trying bacchus last day |
| 22:14:42 | blackhound | crs23: nah... it would be could if there where ramps and inclined planes |
| 22:14:43 | captain_proton | if you've got a rejump delay you can't do tricky bounce shots ;) |
| 22:14:45 | Chestal | there's one server option that noone uses |
| 22:14:50 | blackhound | crs23: nah... it would be coolif there where ramps and inclined planes |
| 22:15:00 | almogaver | i'm too used to play with ricochet ;) i can't live without it now |
| 22:15:18 | Chestal | richet is good against super bullet |
| 22:15:19 | Chestal | and gm |
| 22:15:25 | almogaver | but with a few building you can get long range |
| 22:15:30 | arathorn | no i wasnt see black |
| 22:15:31 | blackhound | I like ricochet, but it's kinda hard to "master" |
| 22:15:59 | crs23 | ricochet is very useful when defending/attacking a team base too |
| 22:16:00 | Chestal | blackhound: it depends, I'm quit good at it, but if you have tricky buildings, you just cannot predict the shots |
| 22:16:19 | crs23 | gotta love those nearly parallel wall kill zones |
| 22:16:21 | Chestal | I used to use ricochet when fleeing from a shockwave |
| 22:16:34 | Chestal | hehe, yes, those are nasty |
| 22:16:47 | blackhound | arathorn: why not? |
| 22:17:31 | Chestal | uh, 0:20 already, I guess I won't manage to keep up my reading pace |
| 22:17:35 | arathorn | black i dont k why i wasnt download that triler yet:( |
| 22:17:46 | T-34 | is sad; after they take away Ducati now they want to play without richocet! |
| 22:17:52 | arathorn | maybe because i was preocupate where is ducati:) |
| 22:17:59 | blackhound | arathorn: hehehe |
| 22:18:36 | Chestal | anyone played on m0nkey's CTF server? |
| 22:18:43 | T-34 | yeap |
| 22:18:45 | blackhound | i have |
| 22:18:49 | arathorn | is good that trailer black ,,,,are u see? |
| 22:18:54 | crs23 | was on bashkara earlier. there are some good players there. |
| 22:19:08 | Chestal | sometime there are |
| 22:19:28 | blackhound | arathorn: I didnt see it yet, i will try to go to the movies this weekend |
| 22:19:29 | captain_proton | of course there are good players on bhaskara ;) |
| 22:19:32 | Chestal | when I was there earlier, it was mostly populated by newbies |
| 22:19:47 | crs23 | hmm, maybe it's the time of day. |
| 22:20:10 | blackhound | i just wnet there, the lag was awful, i got kicked 2 times in 10 mins |
| 22:20:19 | arathorn | hmm..chestal u was say that maybe lagstats is not good for modem players,because players with better connection have worste lag( from usa) |
| 22:20:22 | Chestal | bhaskara is working ok for me lag-wise |
| 22:20:28 | Chestal | it seems to have good and bad times, though |
| 22:20:31 | captain_proton | blackhound: europe? |
| 22:20:40 | almogaver | Chestal: i played on m0nkey's, but it's even laggier than bhaskara |
| 22:20:48 | Chestal | arathorn: well, yes, lagstats is kind fo strange sometime |
| 22:20:50 | almogaver | 450 ms in monkey's |
| 22:20:55 | blackhound | South america, and i have been playing there since ducati is down |
| 22:21:20 | Chestal | I would be interested in dialup users trying curent CVS version and see if the other lag masuremnt makes a difference |
| 22:21:28 | arathorn | but is we with modems CANT play on bhaskara..and all from Eu have problem with usa servers |
| 22:21:45 | arathorn | maybe usa player have problems with eu servers |
| 22:21:58 | almogaver | Chestal: the version from bzflag.org and the one from sourceforge.net is the same? |
| 22:21:59 | Chestal | well, an extra 100-150ms lag is to be expected for transatlantic connections |
| 22:22:13 | | ehm, which version are you using? |
| 22:22:13 | Chestal | almogaver: ehm, which version? |
| 22:22:19 | blackhound | arathorn I couldnt play on ducati when my dsl broke, too laggy with dialup |
| 22:22:22 | almogaver | Chestal: the 1.7 of course |
| 22:22:35 | Chestal | almogaver: bzflag.org probaby only links to sourceforge |
| 22:22:52 | arathorn | same here black i cant play bhaskara |
| 22:22:53 | almogaver | ah! ok |
| 22:23:12 | almogaver | then i'll play with it |
| 22:23:31 | almogaver | and i'll say to you |
| 22:23:36 | Chestal | hmm |
| 22:23:41 | Chestal | it doesn't have e5 there |
| 22:24:12 | Chestal | I don't know if the window sbinary provided my ApathyCream already has the new lagstats code in it |
| 22:24:28 | arathorn | i was play with e5 ...and f5(windows) |
| 22:25:40 | blackhound | are there any developers docs for bzflag? |
| 22:25:54 | T-34 | is going to try to play so he say bye to all of you ! |
| 22:26:15 | arathorn | better lag for few, map is to small ,very hard can see which tenk carry flag |
| 22:26:20 | blackhound | is T-34 for europe too? |
| 22:26:24 | arathorn | yep |
| 22:26:31 | blackhound | spain? |
| 22:26:36 | arathorn | romania |
| 22:26:53 | blackhound | ok |
| 22:27:15 | blackhound | you should be the EU team hehe |
| 22:27:21 | arathorn | lol |
| 22:27:41 | arathorn | i and t we are mencenairs :))) |
| 22:28:23 | blackhound | :) |
| 22:29:13 | almogaver | blackhound: not the EU team, Croatia and Romania are not EU countries |
| 22:29:34 | captain_proton | replaces the batteries in his mouse |
| 22:29:34 | almogaver | blackhound: maybe only the european country.. |
| 22:30:11 | blackhound | almogaver: didnt know that |
| 22:31:04 | almogaver | now there are 15 countries in EU, in 2005 they'll be 25 |
| 22:31:20 | almogaver | Romania will be a country in near future, but it's unknown when |
| 22:31:30 | almogaver | a EU country |
| 22:31:59 | Chestal | I guess the next will be Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary? |
| 22:32:17 | Chestal | we'll assimilate them all ;-) |
| 22:32:43 | captain_proton | sighs |
| 22:32:54 | captain_proton | europe is so much further ahead in terms of government than us |
| 22:33:29 | Chestal | hmm, not really |
| 22:33:35 | Chestal | our governments suck, too |
| 22:34:00 | Chestal | we have big elections in Autumn, and I have no idea whom to vote |
| 22:34:01 | blackhound | what if this Le Pen wins the elections in france? he wants out of the EU |
| 22:34:28 | Chestal | that's not going to happen |
| 22:34:41 | blackhound | Chestal: who knows... |
| 22:34:50 | Chestal | he only ranked twice becuase of the sucky election system |
| 22:35:07 | almogaver | Chestal: yes, that ones, and Latvia, Lethonia, ¿Estonia? (i don't know the english name) |
| 22:35:08 | Chestal | our election system also sucks, but I guess a good one would be too complcated fo rmost people |
| 22:35:36 | almogaver | Chestal: and Malta.. and 3 more |
| 22:35:59 | blackhound | tries bhaskara again |
| 22:40:54 | scanline | is back (gone 20:18:27) |
| 22:41:04 | captain_proton | wb scanline |
| 22:41:10 | captain_proton | 2-player mr wiggly was a hit :) |
| 22:41:18 | scanline | hehe, congrats |
| 22:41:23 | scanline | got it done yet? |
| 22:41:29 | captain_proton | yeah - demoed at 2 |
| 22:41:36 | scanline | cool |
| 22:41:44 | captain_proton | its actually pretty strategic |
| 22:42:22 | captain_proton | trying to get the other player to crash first |
| 22:42:41 | scanline | sounds like Tron! |
| 22:42:48 | captain_proton | thats exactly what it is |
| 22:43:06 | captain_proton | is still looking for a good divx of tron |
| 22:43:16 | Chestal | hmm, good idea |
| 22:43:25 | Chestal | puts it onto his todo-list |
| 22:43:31 | captain_proton | heh Chestal |
| 22:43:39 | captain_proton | first one to find it distributes? ;) |
| 22:43:57 | Chestal | I'm usually using edonkey |
| 22:44:02 | Chestal | but my HD is full |
| 22:44:13 | Chestal | I'm busy sorting and burning etc. |
| 22:44:25 | captain_proton | i took the plunge and started burning dr who |
| 22:45:31 | Chestal | hmm, this version of Citizen Kane I got has Spanish titles |
| 22:56:58 | captain_proton | is off to get food |
| 23:06:46 | blackhound | see you guys |
| 23:24:30 | blaboo | anyone here want to give ol nuum graphics help? |
| 23:24:52 | crs23 | blaboo, what's up? |
| 23:24:59 | blaboo | say, you know the menus well? |
| 23:25:10 | crs23 | i'm familiar with them |
| 23:25:12 | blaboo | anyway i could set up a graphic to be "centered" despite actual graphic size |
| 23:25:43 | blaboo | also, in this fancy xml (really diggin xml :) is there any way to loop/animate? |
| 23:25:59 | blaboo | eg i can't do <viewport x="55%/2" y="50% - 256p" |
| 23:26:38 | crs23 | no, you can't to 50% - 256p. but only because the parser can't handle that. the code can. |
| 23:26:42 | blaboo | also, any chance you know how this tstrip stuff works? |
| 23:26:59 | blaboo | can we rewrite the parser? |
| 23:27:07 | crs23 | okay, tstrip first... |
| 23:27:17 | crs23 | you give a list of vertices... |
| 23:27:18 | blaboo | ok, tstrip & textures |
| 23:27:28 | crs23 | vertex 1,2,3 form a triangle in CCW order |
| 23:27:32 | blaboo | list => order |
| 23:27:47 | crs23 | vertex 2,3,4 form a triangle in CW order. then 3,4,5 CCW; 4,5,6 CW, etc. |
| 23:27:50 | blaboo | hold on, where do we start to index from |
| 23:27:52 | blaboo | ah 1 |
| 23:27:56 | crs23 | no, zero |
| 23:28:00 | crs23 | oops, yes 1. |
| 23:28:08 | crs23 | in my example. in XML it's zero |
| 23:28:09 | blaboo | five vertices? work it mod 5? |
| 23:28:13 | blaboo | or mod 4? |
| 23:28:30 | crs23 | five vertices are indexed 0,1,2,3,4 |
| 23:29:03 | crs23 | got it? |
| 23:29:24 | blaboo | aren't we doing quadrilaterals? |
| 23:29:33 | crs23 | tstrip -> triangle strip |
| 23:30:05 | blaboo | how is 4,5,6 CW |
| 23:30:39 | crs23 | sorry, my example here began indexing from 1. i should've indexed from 0. so 0,1,2 CCW; 1,2,3 CW, etc. |
| 23:31:02 | blaboo | hiyah |
| 23:31:19 | blaboo | ok, so for example, say i want a graphic that is wider than it is high |
| 23:31:28 | blaboo | i wish to put that in the rhs of the menu |
| 23:31:46 | blaboo | how do i make it vertical? i am texturing the rectangle with a logo |
| 23:32:41 | blaboo | um check that out, replace as your data dir |
| 23:33:03 | crs23 | make the rectangle vertical. |
| 23:33:38 | blaboo | so i do vertices as (1,0), (1, 1), (0, 1), (0,0) |
| 23:34:04 | blaboo | and i do texture as (0,0), (1, 0), (1, 1), (1, 0) |
| 23:34:26 | crs23 | oh, you want it rotated 90 degrees. sorry i misunderstood |
| 23:34:42 | blaboo | i'm a little stoned, pardon |
| 23:34:52 | crs23 | that's one way. you could also just rotate the entire square |
| 23:34:54 | blaboo | yes, now it should be higher than it is wide |
| 23:35:02 | blaboo | i can do transforms! |
| 23:35:08 | blaboo | thank you blue fairy |
| 23:35:22 | crs23 | sure. it's the <transform> node. |
| 23:35:36 | blaboo | what do i wrap in transform? |
| 23:35:41 | blaboo | gstate, vertex? |
| 23:36:01 | crs23 | anything under a transform is transformed. of course, only geometry gets transformed. |
| 23:36:16 | blaboo | i should probably read up on my opengl |
| 23:36:22 | crs23 | er, only geometry can be transformed so only it gets effected. |
| 23:36:53 | crs23 | so try putting a simple square that reads horizontally in the following: |
| 23:37:09 | crs23 | <transform><rotate>0 0 1 90</rotate> ... </transform> |
| 23:37:27 | crs23 | 0 0 1 is the rotation axis, 90 is the angle in degrees |
| 23:38:03 | blaboo | and the ... includes <gstate>, <vertex>? |
| 23:38:20 | blaboo | hmmm, what would be the correct terminology? |
| 23:38:32 | crs23 | yes, although you can put all that stuff outside the <transform>. only the <primitive> *must* be in the transform. |
| 23:39:03 | crs23 | you see, transforms are applied when the primitive is encountered. |
| 23:39:07 | blaboo | i see. is it better to draw these things in tstrips (are there any alternatives?) |
| 23:39:54 | crs23 | tstrip is fine. independent triangles and triangle fans are also possible. |
| 23:40:06 | crs23 | tstrip is probably the best choice, actually. |
| 23:40:29 | crs23 | you can also scale using <transform> but there's something tricky about that... |
| 23:40:50 | crs23 | within a *single* <transform> node, scale is applied first, then rotation, then translation. |
| 23:40:53 | blaboo | yeah, i find the image gets blurry when i scale |
| 23:41:05 | crs23 | you need a bigger texture map then |
| 23:41:13 | blaboo | i'm working 512x256 |
| 23:41:16 | blaboo | is this allowed? |
| 23:41:31 | crs23 | depends on your graphics card. but if you see the texture then it should be fine. |
| 23:41:55 | crs23 | if you want a vertical rectangle then use: |
| 23:42:18 | crs23 | <transform><rotate>0 0 1 90></rotate><scale>2 1 1</scale> ... </transform> |
| 23:42:40 | crs23 | notice how you scale horizontally? that's because scale happens before the rotation. |
| 23:43:29 | blaboo | so will it be fatter or thinner? |
| 23:43:40 | blaboo | [ ] or || |
| 23:44:24 | blaboo | see heres what i'm getting into... |
| 23:44:25 | crs23 | it'll be 2 times wider, then it'll be rotated 90 degrees. so 2 times taller than wide. |
| 23:44:45 | blaboo | ok, so even though the rotate is defined first... |
| 23:45:09 | crs23 | exactly. the order in XML makes no difference. |
| 23:46:10 | blaboo | now is this XML, or the opengl? |
| 23:46:32 | crs23 | it's the XML |
| 23:46:53 | blaboo | or is there no order implied by the tree nodes? that doesn't make sense because then the results would vary, wouldn't they? |
| 23:47:15 | crs23 | if you have one transform inside another then the inner one is applied first then the outer one. |
| 23:47:26 | blaboo | associates to the right? |
| 23:47:34 | crs23 | yes |
| 23:48:10 | blaboo | heres the prob... |
| 23:49:05 | blaboo | the transform loses my graphic |
| 23:49:12 | blaboo | <transform><rotate>0 0 1 90</rotate> |
| 23:49:23 | blaboo | <primitive type="tstrip"> |
| 23:49:30 | blaboo | ... |
| 23:49:34 | blaboo | </transform> |
| 23:49:57 | blaboo | also, should i have <blending> on for this? shouldn't it just decal the stuff |
| 23:50:23 | blaboo | ok, how about animation |
| 23:50:37 | blaboo | how could i get a "spinning cube" or something? |
| 23:50:44 | crs23 | you use blending only if you want to see through the primitive. |
| 23:50:46 | blaboo | or a large spinning tank |
| 23:50:59 | crs23 | slow down. let's handle the primitive disappearing. |
| 23:51:07 | blaboo | yeah, i don't want to, i just want decal |
| 23:51:26 | blaboo | ok, it vanishes |
| 23:51:28 | crs23 | it disappears because you've moved it outside the viewport, which covers (0,0) to (1,1) |
| 23:51:38 | blaboo | shouldn't it just clip? |
| 23:51:49 | crs23 | it did. that's why it's not visible. |
| 23:51:50 | blaboo | i must do a shift as well? |
| 23:51:55 | captain_proton | returns |
| 23:52:02 | blaboo | yo prot |
| 23:52:11 | blaboo | so i want to translate down into the corner? |
| 23:52:12 | crs23 | yes. try this: |
| 23:52:53 | crs23 | <transform><translate>0.25 0 0</translate><rotate>0 0 1 90</rotate><scale>1 0.5 1</scale> ... </transform> |
| 23:52:53 | blaboo | dood, you guys know how to setup emacs to read this xml stuff? |
| 23:53:10 | Widget | Does emacs have an XML mode? |
| 23:53:34 | blaboo | i dunno, how to check? |
| 23:53:49 | Widget | No, is it available from anywhere? |
| 23:53:53 | Widget | You'll have to search google. |
| 23:54:35 | blaboo | bwahahaha, its starting to look good |
| 23:54:54 | captain_proton | Widget: probably |
| 23:55:01 | captain_proton | Widget: but - why would you want to use emacs? ;) |
| 23:55:20 | Widget | captain_proton: I didn't. blaboo asked if there was some way to setup emacs to read html. |
| 23:55:22 | blaboo | ok, next problem |
| 23:55:37 | blaboo | how to change from blending to just layer the image without consideration of images behind |
| 23:55:45 | crs23 | k. actually i think 0.75 (or 0.5) instead of 0.25 is right. |
| 23:55:53 | blaboo | is xml close enough to html to work? |
| 23:55:57 | crs23 | just remove the <blending> from the gstate |
| 23:55:58 | captain_proton | blaboo: probably use a group and separate gstates |
| 23:56:12 | crs23 | gstate do not inherit. |
| 23:56:14 | blaboo | whats a group? |
| 23:56:20 | crs23 | er, gstates do not inherit. |
| 23:56:45 | blaboo | ok, so i saved some cycles i suppose |
| 23:57:02 | crs23 | okay, you've got an opaque logo now? |
| 23:57:08 | blaboo | i imagine its realatively quite a few cycles? any ideas on how hard it is to texture? |
| 23:57:11 | blaboo | with blending? |
| 23:57:20 | blaboo | opaque logo, sir. |
| 23:57:29 | blaboo | yes boss, now to change over the other stuff |
| 23:57:29 | captain_proton | blaboo: i don't like where you moved the console - people expect it to take up the top n% of the screen |
| 23:57:35 | crs23 | okay. |
| 23:57:41 | crs23 | how about animation? |
| 23:57:43 | blaboo | captain_proton: console? |
| 23:58:00 | blaboo | captain_proton: i dunno where the console went |
| 23:58:02 | captain_proton | blaboo: in the data dir you sent me - you moved the console |
| 23:58:10 | captain_proton | blaboo: you made it a box in the middle of the screen |
| 23:58:10 | blaboo | captain_proton: but how did you like the menus? |
| 23:58:22 | blaboo | animacion |
| 23:58:25 | captain_proton | blaboo: it'd be nice if you could spell |
| 23:58:29 | captain_proton | i like the older menuptr |
| 23:58:38 | blaboo | the tank one? it still is, kinda |
| 23:58:51 | blaboo | that is how i think stealth should look |
| 23:59:10 | blaboo | just run the texture mapping through a shift |
| 23:59:29 | blaboo | so that the tank becomes mostly see through |
| 23:59:35 | blaboo | what did i misspell? |
| 23:59:46 | blaboo | ;) |