| 01:27:34 | almogaver | bye |
| 03:10:52 | Brophy | can anyone help me? Not having any luck running bzflag in linux, I'm using the nvidia drivers 1.0-2880, only other game I have is Chromium and it seems to work fine. Bzflag freezes shortly after I start it, usually locks up the whole computer, have to hard reboot |
| 04:17:14 | jacques | http://www.arena.net/news/mikearticle040802.html |
| 04:18:27 | jacques | apparently diablo was not much better than bzflag as far as preventing cheating |
| 04:24:16 | jacques | BTW, that's a nice article discussing different network game architectures and how they affect cheating |
| 04:30:13 | captain_proton | the architecture isn't going to change that much |
| 04:30:56 | jacques | too bad |
| 04:31:05 | jacques | they also conclude tat client/server is the only way to go |
| 04:31:33 | jacques | BTW article was written by Blizzard programmers |
| 04:32:11 | jacques | i saw one cheater yesterday - numerical name but getting worse |
| 04:32:17 | jacques | he was totally unhittable |
| 04:32:20 | jacques | super speed |
| 04:32:23 | jacques | super jump |
| 04:32:31 | captain_proton | cheating isn't getting "worse" |
| 04:32:34 | captain_proton | its been bad, its still bad |
| 04:32:43 | jacques | even when he killed himself like with laser, he did not register a kill |
| 04:32:56 | jacques | he always had exactly one death |
| 04:33:05 | jacques | at one point he was like 94-1 |
| 04:33:26 | jacques | i said numerical name cheater was getting worse |
| 04:34:13 | jacques | GM and SW had no effect |
| 04:34:34 | captain_proton | if they won't die, they won't die |
| 04:34:41 | captain_proton | different weapons won't have any impact on it |
| 04:35:09 | jacques | well some ppl wh omake a smaller hit box are still killable with GM and SW |
| 04:42:22 | jacques | oh that's funny - I never noticed that obesity made you to ofat to go through a teleporter |
| 05:16:25 | BZFlag | add it yo the cheat wiki page. |
| 05:16:31 | BZFlag | er s/yo/to/ |
| 05:17:53 | vogon_jeltz | is away: when a foo and a bar love each other very much... [sleep] |
| 05:43:22 | jacques | hmm it says page is currently being editde |
| 05:43:25 | jacques | edited |
| 05:44:10 | jacques | BTW, wiki link on bzflag.org is not correct - needs / on end |
| 05:44:19 | jacques | i get: The requested URL /home/groups/b/bz/bzflag.php was not found on this server. |
| 05:44:48 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 05:51:51 | scanline | captain_proton: planning on entering the egg drop? |
| 05:52:02 | captain_proton | scanline: i wasn't |
| 05:52:05 | captain_proton | but that might change |
| 05:52:08 | scanline | :) |
| 05:52:20 | scanline | I think 2 friends and I will be going for the "biggest splat" category |
| 05:52:39 | captain_proton | haha |
| 05:53:33 | scanline | it will probably involve large quantities of ramen noodles, and maybe some explosives |
| 05:53:40 | captain_proton | ooo |
| 05:53:52 | captain_proton | what categories are there? |
| 05:54:01 | scanline | http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~thetatau/eggdrop/eggdrop.shtml |
| 05:54:13 | captain_proton | hey scanline - you have a bike here? |
| 05:54:32 | scanline | captain_proton: yeah, but i hardly ever use it |
| 05:55:05 | captain_proton | scanline: once we buy the wiffle bats, you should come midnight bicycle jousting with us |
| 05:55:13 | scanline | hahaha |
| 05:56:47 | captain_proton | $2/bat |
| 05:59:33 | onthemark | hey kiddies |
| 06:03:39 | jacques | hi onthemark |
| 06:08:05 | scanline | captain_proton: do you know how to weld? |
| 06:14:29 | captain_proton | scanline: nope |
| 06:14:35 | captain_proton | =} |
| 06:15:07 | scanline | hehe.. darn |
| 06:15:21 | scanline | great.. now ickysneeze is talking about pure oxygen and propane... |
| 06:15:32 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:15:40 | captain_proton | who is ickysneeze? |
| 06:15:57 | scanline | Brandon Smith, a good friend of mine. He doesn't go to CU, i know him from high school |
| 06:17:22 | captain_proton | scanline: you could take your design to the shop at the ITL |
| 06:17:29 | captain_proton | they'll make it for ya |
| 06:17:44 | scanline | I still have no clue what the design is.. now we're just throwing around crazy ideas :) |
| 06:20:39 | onthemark | what do you want to know about welding? |
| 06:21:04 | scanline | nothing yet... |
| 06:21:06 | onthemark | k |
| 06:21:18 | captain_proton | hrm... |
| 06:21:23 | scanline | I've done a little Oxy-acetylene and arc welding before, but nothing I would trust to hold compressed propane :) |
| 06:21:24 | onthemark | hrm? |
| 06:21:25 | captain_proton | what could you do with some ramen noodles... |
| 06:21:43 | onthemark | ramen noodles??? |
| 06:21:56 | captain_proton | <scanline> it will probably involve large quantities of ramen noodles, and maybe some explosives |
| 06:21:56 | onthemark | sounds like i should eat them |
| 06:22:25 | scanline | just hold out a bowl as we drop 'em :) |
| 06:22:29 | onthemark | i have you covered on explosives end of things |
| 06:22:30 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:22:41 | onthemark | licensed pyrotech |
| 06:22:45 | captain_proton | scanline: your thing should involve that giant marble in front of the new building |
| 06:23:05 | scanline | onthemark: hey... want to join #picogui for a moment and talk to ickysneeze? |
| 06:23:12 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:23:18 | onthemark | why lol |
| 06:23:28 | captain_proton | onthemark: its the egg drop! |
| 06:23:30 | scanline | onthemark: he's also a pyro.. maybe you could give a sanity check :) |
| 06:23:39 | onthemark | hehe k hang on |
| 06:25:09 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:25:11 | captain_proton | snubbed |
| 06:25:27 | scanline | he's using a single-channel IRC client or something? |
| 06:27:09 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 06:27:24 | captain_proton | i need to find someone to fund our wiffle-bat purchase |
| 06:58:21 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzz |
| 08:21:57 | fontenot | heh that was fun |
| 09:45:36 | Chestal | wah, I got 4 bzmessages from out friend the Gerbil-rat |
| 10:23:56 | T-34 | Hi tankers |
| 10:26:28 | T-34 | Chestal? |
| 10:29:43 | Chestal | yep |
| 10:40:22 | T-34 | Sorry I was out a little |
| 10:41:20 | T-34 | I saw that you play for a while yesterday |
| 11:02:04 | T-34 | Better I'll send you a BZmessage |
| 11:02:13 | T-34 | Bye all |
| 11:18:27 | vogon_jeltz | is away: VFS: Panic: Cannot mount root fs |
| 11:18:37 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 12:07:51 | fontenot | god damn POS cheater MF |
| 12:08:03 | fontenot | he thinks he is smart |
| 12:08:11 | fontenot | he thinks he is putting on a "performance" |
| 12:08:24 | fontenot | and has his "email address" as his name now |
| 12:08:48 | fontenot | now he is shooting shots out of his tank in a star pattern |
| 12:27:36 | Chestal | which server? |
| 12:47:08 | nelson | fontenot: I assume that people cheat by modifying their client? |
| 12:48:47 | Chestal | nelson: yes, they do |
| 12:49:18 | nelson | Not much to do about that, other than to only play with honest people.... |
| 12:51:48 | Chestal | yes, that's the idea. Only some of the cheats can be solved technically |
| 12:51:58 | Chestal | we hope to make several improvements with 1.8 |
| 13:09:18 | scanline | is back (gone 06:10:57) |
| 13:23:04 | fontenot | the asshole kept saying he was unkickable |
| 13:23:11 | fontenot | then an admin came and kicked him twice |
| 13:23:15 | fontenot | but he just keeps coming back |
| 13:24:16 | fontenot | it really sucks that one person can screw things for everyone |
| 13:24:26 | fontenot | everybody leaves the server when he shows up now |
| 13:24:41 | fontenot | we all have to stop our games and lose our scores if we go to another server |
| 13:24:48 | fontenot | just because of one shithead |
| 13:31:49 | nelson | fontenot: perhaps the solution is a /ignore? So when somebody is obviously cheating, your client ignores the damage they cause. And of course, your /ignore status is public knowledge. |
| 13:35:36 | RiSeMaN | hello |
| 13:35:57 | Chestal | hi rise |
| 13:36:45 | Chestal | fontenot: I just had a cheater at ducati (perfect cell), but I removed hi. He had super-fast shots |
| 13:37:34 | nelson | that would get annoying. |
| 13:38:15 | Chestal | the best solution righ tnow is to have as many trusted people with admin access ona server as possible |
| 13:39:36 | RiSeMaN | a question, i want run a bzflag server, but i have a problem... i want ctf with "-c" but only red vs green, by default in the map show four teams... i see the documentation but i can't see how made it... somebody help me please? pufff sorry for my english ;P |
| 13:39:54 | fontenot | Chestal: yes this was perfect cell i was talking about |
| 13:40:04 | fontenot | on astergames |
| 13:40:20 | Chestal | fontenot: he was on ducati 15 minutes ago, he joined, kille dme with his fast shots and I removed him |
| 13:40:36 | Chestal | I'm using a patch which allows for temporary bans |
| 13:40:42 | Chestal | so he cannot connect with the same ip for 15 minutes |
| 13:40:42 | fontenot | he has to keep changing servers because everyone leaves when he arrives |
| 13:41:11 | fontenot | he in unkillable but he keeps changing the client |
| 13:41:20 | fontenot | he told me he things he is smart because he can hack the client |
| 13:41:35 | fontenot | i said it was trivial and he said most ppl cant even compile it |
| 13:41:48 | fontenot | he used to always be xx-1 on score |
| 13:41:57 | fontenot | but now he shows as having kills |
| 13:42:08 | fontenot | probably beacuse he has a button to kill all his teammates |
| 13:42:13 | Chestal | he obviously sucks |
| 13:42:38 | fontenot | he can kill all his teammates from anywhere on the map |
| 13:42:42 | fontenot | instantly |
| 13:42:53 | fontenot | now he's shooting in a star pattern |
| 13:42:57 | fontenot | which does not do him much good |
| 13:43:10 | fontenot | he is terrible at the game, but he is unhittable and eventually he gets laser of GM |
| 13:46:29 | Pinguin | Greetings ... |
| 13:46:35 | RiSeMaN | hi :) |
| 13:46:55 | Pinguin | Chestal: What about an indicator for people writing when playing .... |
| 13:47:21 | Pinguin | Something like an "!" over their tank, like in Quake3Arena ... |
| 13:47:59 | Pinguin | hola, riseman |
| 13:48:35 | RiSeMaN | hola Pinguin umm are you spanish? :) |
| 13:49:16 | Pinguin | no ... just wanted to learn it ... a spanish friend is teaching me ... at least the insults ;-) |
| 13:49:24 | Chestal | Pinguin: you mean indicate when someone is typing a message? |
| 13:49:40 | RiSeMaN | Pinguin: ajam ;PPPP |
| 13:49:53 | Pinguin | yes ... that other player know that is tank "should" be off limits ... |
| 13:50:33 | Pinguin | Somehow another type of flag ober the tank as long as typing ... |
| 13:51:19 | Pinguin | What do you think? |
| 13:53:29 | Chestal | hmm, well, I don't know. I think peopel should be able to play and type at the same time :-) |
| 13:54:08 | Chestal | learn to type fast :-). Well, maybe soemthing liek this could be added for 1.8, but I don't know if it's worth the trouble |
| 13:54:10 | Pinguin | Was just some idea ... |
| 13:54:38 | Chestal | ideas are always good |
| 13:59:31 | Chestal | penguin-bomber? |
| 14:00:05 | bomber | yes |
| 14:00:11 | Pinguin | Penguins is the team ... |
| 14:00:16 | Chestal | ah, didn't know you were German |
| 14:00:28 | Pinguin | Bomber and me are the only mebers yet ... |
| 14:00:35 | bomber | i am not german |
| 14:00:41 | Chestal | but at the TU Darmstadt? |
| 14:00:54 | bomber | yes |
| 14:00:55 | Pinguin | Waiting for at least one other guy who is still pretty busy ... |
| 14:01:18 | T-34 | Hi tankers |
| 14:01:36 | lupinator | blaster signed up |
| 14:01:49 | Chestal | oh perfect cell, jut a moment |
| 14:02:08 | lupinator | hope he does not join the frootloops |
| 14:03:06 | Chestal | Blaster? hmm, I don't think so |
| 14:03:58 | Chestal | maybe a Scandivian team? |
| 14:04:08 | Chestal | hm, that came out all wrong |
| 14:04:12 | Chestal | Scandinavian |
| 14:04:50 | lupinator | didn't even notice some letters were missing |
| 14:18:10 | Pinguin | btw: is it possible in a league combat to include a 4 team member as observator ... |
| 14:20:06 | Pinguin | Ok it is possible, but will it be allowed= |
| 14:20:52 | Chestal | yes, certainly |
| 14:21:16 | Chestal | we will try to do the first matches soon, then we will learn what has to be improved for future battles |
| 14:21:46 | thunderroad | hallo |
| 14:21:57 | T-34 | Hi |
| 14:21:58 | thunderroad | I am not so stupid Penguin |
| 14:22:04 | thunderroad | bastard |
| 14:22:07 | Pinguin | thunderroad ... choose a callsign and KEEP IT |
| 14:22:07 | thunderroad | hahahahaha |
| 14:22:11 | bomber | but much more..hahaha |
| 14:22:19 | thunderroad | Ich hasse euch |
| 14:22:34 | bomber | why thunderroad ? |
| 14:22:47 | thunderroad | Bruce favourite song!!!!!! |
| 14:23:17 | T-34 | Chestal? |
| 14:23:55 | Chestal | ehm |
| 14:24:38 | T-34 | Don't want to bother you but did you read that bzmessage? |
| 14:25:37 | T-34 | Gotto go; bye all |
| 14:25:42 | Chestal | yes, I even replied |
| 14:25:43 | Chestal | hmm |
| 14:27:44 | thunderroad | What do you do penguin? |
| 14:30:09 | Pinguin | Downloading, working ,Simulating and Writing ... |
| 14:31:25 | fontenot | PERFECT CELL IS ON DECKS |
| 14:31:28 | thunderroad | I mean, i have received a "Received list" from you. Can you explain that |
| 14:31:35 | fontenot | soneone please kick him |
| 14:31:37 | fontenot | please |
| 14:32:12 | thunderroad | I am accepting everithing |
| 14:32:20 | Pinguin | just do it ... tr |
| 14:32:21 | thunderroad | hope you are not hacking my computer... |
| 14:32:27 | Pinguin | well ... |
| 14:32:33 | fontenot | ok he left |
| 14:38:51 | thunderroad | lalala |
| 14:39:54 | bomber | lalala |
| 14:40:23 | bomber | i see..you have time to play..then join the team and play!! |
| 14:40:43 | thunderroad | Nein. Don't provoke me!!!! |
| 14:41:01 | bomber | thunderroad,charlie or bastard...:o)) |
| 14:43:01 | Pinguin | RiSeMaN: thunderroad is my teacher ... at least spanish insults |
| 14:43:31 | RiSeMaN | Pinguin: xDDDD |
| 14:43:48 | Pinguin | ???? |
| 14:44:29 | RiSeMaN | Pinguin: sorry i and my smileys ;P |
| 14:44:59 | Pinguin | Ah, i see :-) |
| 14:46:27 | thunderroad | eh qué pasa Riseman!!!! |
| 14:46:46 | RiSeMaN | buenas thunderroad, por aqui andamos :)) |
| 14:47:04 | thunderroad | Yo a ver si entre Bomber y Penguin me dejan currar |
| 14:47:17 | RiSeMaN | :))) |
| 14:47:18 | thunderroad | pq me quieren convencer pa empezar ya la liga bzflag |
| 14:47:29 | RiSeMaN | empezar ya? vaya :DDDD |
| 14:47:40 | thunderroad | si, yo quiero dejarlo pa el veranito |
| 14:48:00 | T-34 | Need help!!!!!!!! |
| 14:48:00 | thunderroad | en fin, pos eso que sigo currando que no puede ser... |
| 14:48:14 | thunderroad | ya hablamos |
| 14:48:19 | RiSeMaN | hombre verano quizas sea un poco tarde no? :DDD |
| 14:48:21 | RiSeMaN | ok :)) |
| 14:48:25 | RiSeMaN | te dejo currar :) |
| 14:48:31 | RiSeMaN | hi t-34 |
| 14:48:56 | T-34 | I've just install BZ at the office ( PIII 550, 128 RAM, 3dfx voodoo3 2000 16Mb ) and it's not working |
| 14:49:32 | thunderroad | at the office? |
| 14:49:42 | T-34 | I'm with winXO |
| 14:49:42 | thunderroad | Qhere do you work? |
| 14:49:47 | T-34 | XP |
| 14:49:50 | thunderroad | just to tell the boss... |
| 14:49:58 | RiSeMaN | ;P |
| 14:50:04 | T-34 | A small software comapny in Romania |
| 14:50:10 | Pinguin | XP ... argh thats the problem |
| 14:50:14 | thunderroad | hahahahah |
| 14:50:18 | T-34 | We don't have a boss |
| 14:50:35 | thunderroad | imagine why penguin calls himsef penguin |
| 14:50:45 | T-34 | we are 10 workers and also owners af the company... |
| 14:50:55 | thunderroad | that is better |
| 14:51:02 | thunderroad | we have boss, but... |
| 14:51:09 | T-34 | better for who? |
| 14:51:13 | thunderroad | ok, i shut up!! |
| 14:51:23 | thunderroad | for you |
| 14:51:30 | T-34 | believe me better with a boss than 9 associates |
| 14:51:43 | scanline | is away: pseudo-foodlike-almost-breakfast-i-cant-believe-its-not-arsenic |
| 14:51:44 | thunderroad | no, better not top have a boss |
| 14:52:15 | T-34 | Ah |
| 14:52:22 | Pinguin | Well what is the error message ... |
| 14:52:44 | T-34 | If you see discutions about anything, votes... |
| 14:53:36 | T-34 | But please somebody tell me what to do to play BZ from here |
| 14:53:59 | T-34 | I must use on WinXP |
| 14:54:50 | T-34 | I just install new drivers for voodoo3 but still nothing when I start BZ |
| 14:56:04 | bomber | and what happend when you start bzflag ? nothing ? |
| 14:56:16 | Pinguin | a co-worker had(!) winXP on his laptop ... could not ftp to some servers ... some worked ... some not ... |
| 14:56:17 | T-34 | nothing |
| 14:56:29 | Pinguin | OPENGL? |
| 14:56:42 | T-34 | Well, till now the XP was ok |
| 14:57:19 | T-34 | I've take the latest drivers for voodoo3 |
| 14:57:49 | T-34 | until these drivers when I start bz I obtain a black screen |
| 14:57:58 | Pinguin | WinXP is not in the list of supported OS ... I guess we have to bother the Developers ... |
| 14:58:07 | T-34 | now it's nothing |
| 14:58:42 | T-34 | well, I play on XP but with geForce 2 |
| 14:58:56 | T-34 | on PIII at 933 256 RAM |
| 14:59:14 | Pinguin | Do you have some other OPENGL apps that work? |
| 14:59:56 | T-34 | I think that the drivers for voodoo3 it's not ok for XP |
| 15:00:51 | T-34 | I must change the video here :( |
| 15:01:03 | T-34 | uh |
| 15:03:45 | T-34 | if somebody have any tip about this problem please tell me. I repeat the configuration WinXP on PIII at 550 128Mb Ram 3dfxvoodoo3 16Mb |
| 15:11:01 | bomber | bye... |
| 15:14:14 | T-34 | bye all |
| 15:27:54 | scanline | is back (gone 00:36:11) |
| 15:29:06 | Pinguin | leaving .... bye |
| 15:32:01 | scanline | is away: doing homework |
| 15:37:38 | nelson | cheating has already gotten old, and I've only been playing for two days. |
| 15:37:59 | captain_proton | you're just playing on the wrong servers |
| 17:01:01 | nelson | captain_proton: recommendations? |
| 17:01:11 | captain_proton | ducati or mine =) |
| 17:01:18 | captain_proton | both are ruled with an iron fist |
| 17:02:48 | nelson | sorry, what is yours? |
| 17:02:53 | captain_proton | bhaskara |
| 17:16:07 | RiSeMaN | bye all |
| 17:23:19 | jp_zZz | men |
| 17:23:32 | jpablo | i hate cheaters :-( |
| 17:23:55 | jpablo | on ducati :-( |
| 19:21:24 | Phactorial | captain_proton: wtf... |
| 19:44:23 | scanline | is away: class |
| 20:19:31 | vogon_jeltz | is away: thinking. :\ |
| 21:04:03 | scanline | is back (gone 01:19:40) |
| 21:52:26 | lupinator | it would be easier to kick cell if every player had an ID |
| 21:53:05 | lupinator | those people tend to have complex names |
| 22:38:35 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:38:43 | captain_proton | looks like crs is getting ready to commit something |
| 22:47:52 | T-34 | Heyyyy |
| 22:48:00 | T-34 | IS ahybody here? |
| 22:48:16 | T-34 | Is anybody on-line? |
| 22:48:27 | T-34 | We have a cheater on Ducati! |
| 22:48:46 | T-34 | No, no admin.? |
| 22:48:56 | T-34 | Bye |
| 23:57:54 | scanline | is away: is it spam yet? Nope, just school food... |