| 02:54:04 | scanline | is away: ZzZz |
| 03:41:49 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 03:42:55) |
| 03:42:01 | captain_proton | hello vogon_jeltz |
| 03:42:10 | vogon_jeltz | hey. |
| 03:42:20 | captain_proton | how goes the SDLing |
| 03:42:21 | captain_proton | ? |
| 03:44:47 | vogon_jeltz | it goes. |
| 03:44:53 | captain_proton | i see |
| 03:45:09 | captain_proton | couple new episodes of CA if you wanna take a look |
| 03:45:26 | vogon_jeltz | I'm trying to figure out how to work out initial resolution discovery without everything getting too messy. |
| 05:31:44 | iLLf8d | lo |
| 05:31:48 | iLLf8d | not working alde |
| 05:31:49 | iLLf8d | wassu |
| 05:31:50 | iLLf8d | p |
| 05:32:16 | Aldebaran | well, ah .. |
| 06:40:06 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: 1.7f5 crashes on key reassignment. (reported) and no source up for that one? |
| 06:44:54 | MrApathyCream | source is all from sourceforge |
| 06:45:00 | MrApathyCream | what key reassignment? |
| 06:50:45 | BZFlag | 1.7f5 ? that's not on SF. it's just cvs + some patches from sf? that would be ok. just list the patches it includes then. |
| 06:51:00 | BZFlag | in the options menu there is an area for key reassignment. |
| 06:51:17 | BZFlag | if you don't add a new command key there, it seg faults. |
| 06:51:34 | BZFlag | so new keys need to be added in 2 places. |
| 06:55:34 | MrApathyCream | Patches that make up 1.7f5 are listed under the 'source code' link |
| 06:56:46 | MrApathyCream | hmm, i see the segfault.... |
| 06:58:07 | BZFlag | cool. no problem then. hack on. feel free to create pages on the wiki or just links to your site as well! |
| 06:59:38 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, confused about this command key thing... didn't know i added one... |
| 07:02:34 | MrApathyCream | ah, now i rememeber [ ] for message verbosity |
| 07:02:41 | MrApathyCream | dag |
| 07:10:37 | jpablo | fuck |
| 07:12:23 | jpablo | ducati got down :-( |
| 07:12:53 | BZFlag | jpablo: watch the language here, l? |
| 07:12:57 | BZFlag | er, k? |
| 07:13:04 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: Ok it's fixed... Hmmm, how do I handle this, as it is not my patch? I can't post a diff file to that post right? |
| 07:13:24 | jpablo | sorry |
| 07:13:24 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: it's all GPL. your options are open. |
| 07:13:51 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: I'd suggest you update the patch on SF. tell me if you don't have rights and I'll fix it. |
| 07:13:56 | BZFlag | jpablo: np. |
| 07:19:23 | jpablo | BZFlag: but what would be your reaccion when you can't play on your favorite server ? :-p |
| 07:19:57 | jpablo | anyway it's up again |
| 07:20:22 | BZFlag | jpablo: I'd say "crap" ;-) |
| 07:22:43 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: Anything goin' on in 1.8 land? it's been quiet... :( |
| 07:23:17 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: been out of town etc. back to network stuff this week I hope. |
| 07:34:54 | captain_proton | looks around |
| 07:36:12 | captain_proton | BZFlag doesn't have a favorite server, because he never actually plays ;) |
| 07:36:27 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:36:38 | MrApathyCream | TimTesting plays sometimes |
| 07:37:00 | BZFlag | hey, my fav it bin/bzfs plus options. ;-) |
| 07:37:08 | captain_proton | oh, of course |
| 07:37:12 | BZFlag | heh |
| 07:37:43 | MrApathyCream | (in the router) |
| 07:38:54 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: see my bzfs cmd line builder... not sure why folks wanted it, but apparently lots do |
| 07:39:15 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: because people can't be bothered with things like documentation |
| 07:39:33 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:39:48 | MrApathyCream | 1.7f5 posted with fix, working on patch diff file |
| 07:41:08 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: where is the command line builder? is it just a script? would that be a good thing to add to cvs? |
| 07:41:42 | MrApathyCream | applet on my site.. be glad to add it to cvs, not particular pretty or useful imho, but people want it. |
| 07:43:01 | BZFlag | I might take a look at it. I plan to rework the command line code for the server in 1.8 such that options can be set from inside the dame by an admin. |
| 07:43:26 | MrApathyCream | nice, this is for 1.7e4 or e5 only, anyway |
| 07:43:28 | captain_proton | shouts 1.8 should use a config file! |
| 07:43:54 | BZFlag | yes, I plan to use the same db engine as the client. |
| 07:44:03 | BZFlag | perhaps even the same config file. |
| 07:44:37 | BZFlag | just a different tree of options. with the ability to pick the config file and tree on the command line. |
| 07:44:44 | BZFlag | (or remotely) |
| 07:44:56 | captain_proton | sounds good |
| 08:27:36 | sarajuana | sarajuana r0cks |
| 08:30:12 | jpablo | sarajuana: league-stats |
| 08:30:13 | sarajuana | jpablo: Number of players 94 |
| 08:30:13 | sarajuana | jpablo: Players without a team 26 |
| 08:30:13 | sarajuana | jpablo: Number of teams 26 |
| 08:30:14 | jpablo | :-P |
| 10:19:23 | Chestal | hi |
| 12:13:47 | scanline | is back (gone 09:19:44) |
| 14:09:00 | fontenot | captain_proton: thanks again for removing flags from decks :-) that map is inspired |
| 14:58:16 | scanline | is away: powdered eggs, pseudopotatoes, and a ton of salt, with a bagel on the side |
| 15:17:10 | scanline | is back (gone 00:18:55) |
| 15:26:44 | Pinguin | greetings, using IRC the first time |
| 15:27:05 | Chestal | hi Pinguin |
| 15:27:09 | Chestal | you're doign well so far ;-) |
| 15:27:29 | Pinguin | Thanks ... was reading about League and this channel |
| 15:27:54 | Pinguin | Bomber and me want also to participate in the league as team ... |
| 15:28:58 | Chestal | have you registered for the league? |
| 15:29:32 | Pinguin | We are currently only two ... but we will gain Rodman and another player later ... probably June ... |
| 15:29:59 | Pinguin | They are pretty busy right now |
| 15:30:34 | Chestal | I can see bomer in team 'pinguins' |
| 15:30:36 | Pinguin | Phd thesis ... marriage ... |
| 15:31:00 | Chestal | I'm also workign on the former one |
| 15:31:07 | Pinguin | yes ... he already wanted to reserve the name for us ... |
| 15:31:38 | Chestal | well, why not register now and join the team? |
| 15:31:42 | Chestal | it doesn't hurt ;-) |
| 15:31:54 | Pinguin | i guess that most people playing in the internet are somehow university people ... doing university stuff |
| 15:32:12 | Chestal | a lot are |
| 15:32:15 | Pinguin | OK i will sign in TODAY |
| 15:32:45 | Pinguin | BTW ... i hear a lot that IRC is unsecure ??? |
| 15:33:04 | Pinguin | We have a LOT problems with attacks here ... |
| 15:34:08 | Chestal | soem IRC nets are a playground for script kiddies |
| 15:34:21 | Chestal | mostly they are fighting within the IRC realm onlz |
| 15:34:41 | Chestal | also, some viruses are sent, which work with some Windows clients |
| 15:34:44 | Pinguin | can you recommend a "save" IRC client for Linux? |
| 15:34:58 | Chestal | I never had problems with irc, I am using good old ircii :-) |
| 15:35:11 | Chestal | xchat should be fine if you want a GUI client |
| 15:35:42 | Pinguin | i found xchat installed, so i used it ... i prefer terminal always ... |
| 15:36:07 | Pinguin | for the first tries it is probably easier if you dont know the syntax |
| 15:36:48 | Chestal | well, ircii is not very user friendly. It can be extended by using scripts, this is what I do |
| 15:37:11 | iLLf8d | lo all |
| 15:37:13 | iLLf8d | hey ehrum |
| 15:37:17 | iLLf8d | that not responding issue i'm having |
| 15:37:31 | iLLf8d | I noticed that the reason I can't reconnect is that the server still thinks i'm on |
| 15:37:50 | iLLf8d | I can see a steady stream of udp packets from the server 5155 to my port although the bzflag client is closed |
| 15:37:53 | iLLf8d | whats up with that? |
| 15:38:05 | Chestal | TCP connection is gone? |
| 15:38:08 | Chestal | maybe it's still alive? |
| 15:38:44 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 15:38:51 | iLLf8d | well I have the client off |
| 15:38:59 | iLLf8d | and when I reconnect I can with a different name |
| 15:39:04 | Chestal | windows? unix? |
| 15:39:16 | iLLf8d | but even after I leave (assuming its soon enough) the old one is still running |
| 15:39:17 | iLLf8d | linux |
| 15:39:36 | iLLf8d | yeah I checked my ps ax | grep bz and its not there |
| 15:39:41 | Chestal | hmm |
| 15:40:01 | Chestal | try checking if the TCP connection is still half-alive with netstat -a |
| 15:42:17 | iLLf8d | hm |
| 15:42:36 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 15:42:42 | iLLf8d | can you tell me what that would tell me? |
| 15:42:46 | captain_proton | looks around the channel |
| 15:42:50 | iLLf8d | its timed out already thats why i'm asking |
| 15:43:19 | Chestal | ill: wel, I don't know, if it was still there, that would explain why the server can't know you're gone |
| 15:43:25 | iLLf8d | I didn't have the presence of mind to to it at the time and it may just have been between my router and the server and not to my workstation (on which the client was running at the time) |
| 15:43:26 | Chestal | hi proton |
| 15:43:30 | captain_proton | hello |
| 15:44:14 | iLLf8d | I just figured out how to access a ton of good info in my hardware router and cable modem |
| 15:44:21 | iLLf8d | and i'm in over my head heh |
| 15:44:47 | iLLf8d | one part I checed out the rfc and I tho it doesn't sound good I'm not sure what it implies and if its the cause |
| 15:45:06 | iLLf8d | sheesh where did that I come from heh =P |
| 16:32:44 | jpablo | morning |
| 16:32:47 | captain_proton | hello |
| 17:45:42 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 17:45:44 | captain_proton | cvs commit\ |
| 17:47:59 | scanline | is away: class |
| 19:23:30 | captain_proton | heya tim |
| 19:23:44 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ya know, the league doesn't work if you don't join a team ;) |
| 19:24:55 | BZFlag | heh. as I play so little, I'm probably a liability. |
| 19:35:23 | vogon_jeltz | is away: shower. |
| 20:51:12 | almogaver | hi |
| 20:55:04 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 01:19:41) |
| 20:57:42 | scanline | is back (gone 03:09:43) |
| 21:16:42 | almogaver | is away: Playing |
| 21:18:13 | almogaver | is back (gone 00:01:31) |
| 21:25:47 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 21:26:07 | almogaver | hi T-34 |
| 21:39:13 | Chestal | re |
| 21:39:34 | almogaver | hi Chestal |
| 21:46:01 | Chestal | hmm, cannot connect to bzflag.org |
| 21:46:15 | almogaver | i can't too |
| 21:46:28 | almogaver | it was down an half hour ago |
| 21:46:36 | almogaver | then, it was up a few minutes |
| 21:46:39 | almogaver | and now is down again |
| 21:46:43 | Chestal | works now |
| 21:46:53 | Chestal | the routing was messed up, strange |
| 21:46:59 | Chestal | 100 players |
| 21:48:19 | lupi | i think i son't know half of them |
| 21:49:02 | Chestal | me, too. I wonder if they regularly all play on other servers? or LAN only? or are newbies? |
| 21:49:25 | Chestal | hmm obviosuly somethign is wrong with sf |
| 21:49:36 | lupi | most of them don't have a very informative description |
| 21:49:55 | Chestal | even mos tteams have no real description |
| 21:50:25 | Chestal | I wonder if the founders of the single-player teams are waiting for friends to join. Noone else will withotu any advertising |
| 21:50:27 | almogaver | there are a lot of newbies in ducati the last days |
| 21:55:19 | Chestal | I managed to login |
| 21:55:32 | Chestal | but no new bzmessages for me -( |
| 22:03:43 | Chestal | almogaver: hm, CTF is probaly not the best place to learn how to play bz |
| 22:04:04 | almogaver | I learned at happypenguin.org server |
| 22:04:12 | almogaver | 1 shot, no jump, no flags, no ricochet |
| 22:04:16 | T-34 | Chestal I have a question for you |
| 22:04:20 | almogaver | and most players are newbies |
| 22:04:28 | Chestal | used to play that way, exept I was using flags |
| 22:04:29 | T-34 | Yeap Almo I learned that way but on LAN |
| 22:04:43 | captain_proton | woo! |
| 22:04:54 | almogaver | ducati configuration is good for newbies |
| 22:05:01 | Chestal | but nowaday I feel that ricohet is a must-have |
| 22:05:04 | almogaver | but there are too much good players in ducati |
| 22:05:15 | captain_proton | i just got one of the nice soldering irons from the campus electronics shop for $5 |
| 22:05:29 | Chestal | my free for all server is mostly empty since I started my CTF server |
| 22:05:59 | almogaver | maybe one of the server that are allways empty should change their config |
| 22:06:20 | captain_proton | a lot of the servers that are always empty are empty because they're waay too laggy |
| 22:06:26 | almogaver | Chestal: your server is ducati? |
| 22:06:36 | almogaver | Chestal: is your server ducati? |
| 22:06:39 | Chestal | almo: yes |
| 22:07:03 | Chestal | T-34: where's your question? |
| 22:07:09 | almogaver | yes, the free for all server is empty almost allways |
| 22:07:10 | Chestal | I'm on my way to bed |
| 22:07:13 | T-34 | Chestal: several times I play with cheaters |
| 22:07:23 | almogaver | i don't like teleports |
| 22:07:27 | T-34 | can you throw them out? |
| 22:07:38 | T-34 | I find two yesterday |
| 22:07:43 | Chestal | T-34: only on ducati. Have you encountere cheaters on ducati? |
| 22:07:53 | T-34 | yeap 2 |
| 22:07:59 | T-34 | yesterday |
| 22:08:06 | Chestal | you sure they cheated? |
| 22:08:12 | almogaver | with a few building and no teleports it will be nicer |
| 22:08:17 | T-34 | maybe just one with two diff. names |
| 22:08:22 | T-34 | course |
| 22:08:34 | almogaver | what kind of cheat? |
| 22:08:50 | Chestal | almogaver: teleports can be fun, I always try to shoot a tank by using the telporter border for ricochet :-) |
| 22:08:51 | T-34 | they were in my team and I shoot and I shoot and I shoot and nothing |
| 22:09:13 | Chestal | T-34: well, admins on my server can kick and temporarily ban people |
| 22:09:16 | T-34 | this happend when both of us are staying |
| 22:09:28 | Chestal | T-34: I've given the pasword to several peopel I know, it usually works fine this way |
| 22:09:30 | almogaver | is it hidden narrow? |
| 22:09:41 | Chestal | of course, there isn't ad admin on the server all of the time |
| 22:10:00 | T-34 | I see |
| 22:10:02 | T-34 | ok |
| 22:10:43 | T-34 | but it's so frustrating ( this is the term ?) |
| 22:10:53 | Chestal | yes, it's the righ tterm and I agree |
| 22:11:18 | Chestal | I hope I won't have cheaters on ducati regularly |
| 22:11:30 | Chestal | it used to be close to cheater free |
| 22:12:03 | T-34 | the good thing is that everyone on ducati see that it's a cheater and refuse to play |
| 22:12:21 | almogaver | i think it's not enough funny for cheaters |
| 22:12:40 | Chestal | I used to check the server logs in the mornign to see if anyhting happened durign the night |
| 22:12:46 | almogaver | flags and jumps looks funniest |
| 22:12:55 | Chestal | but I have lots of work to do lately, so I don't anymore |
| 22:13:55 | Chestal | ok, I have to go to bed now. cu |
| 22:14:03 | T-34 | bye Chestal and thx |
| 22:14:06 | almogaver | bye Chestal |
| 22:14:38 | T-34 | Almo I'll try another short game what do you say? |
| 22:16:14 | almogaver | let's go! |
| 22:16:30 | almogaver | is away: playing |