| 00:13:57 | iLLf8d | unreal huh |
| 00:14:18 | iLLf8d | slashdot has it so packed now heh |
| 01:16:00 | vogon_jeltz | is away: nap |
| 01:37:05 | RiSeMaN | ummm, hi all ;) |
| 01:38:07 | RiSeMaN | is away: in the wind... |
| 01:58:34 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:58:44 | captain_proton | wonders if 'grandmother' is who he thinks it is |
| 02:11:52 | | i heard BZFlag was TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps |
| 02:11:52 | IdiotBen | where's BZFlag? |
| 02:12:07 | IdiotBen | silly bot I know who he is..... |
| 02:12:12 | IdiotBen | that's the prob with bots ;-) |
| 02:12:20 | IdiotBen | anyone seen Tim? |
| 02:13:29 | captain_proton | he hasn't spoken for a while |
| 02:14:01 | captain_proton | scanline: are you 'the pi-guy' ? |
| 02:14:22 | captain_proton | wait thats not your website |
| 02:36:45 | captain_proton | pokes iLLf8d |
| 02:41:42 | iLLf8d | lo |
| 02:41:48 | iLLf8d | hey cap unreal action today huh |
| 02:42:10 | iLLf8d | hey in a ctf game is there a setting to keep the flag from returning to the center of the field when its dropped? |
| 02:42:23 | iLLf8d | seems ctf is working but the flag is zooming to the center when dropped |
| 02:42:28 | iLLf8d | it doesn't stay in place |
| 02:43:02 | captain_proton | it only returns to the center if dropped when in the air above a base |
| 02:43:09 | iLLf8d | oh hmm |
| 02:43:20 | iLLf8d | so if i'm on a .4 high building its considered in the air |
| 02:43:21 | iLLf8d | ? |
| 02:43:30 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 02:43:33 | iLLf8d | nhmm |
| 02:43:35 | iLLf8d | also |
| 02:43:44 | iLLf8d | how do I make pyramids solid? |
| 02:43:50 | captain_proton | what do you mean? |
| 02:43:55 | iLLf8d | seems the ones I keep chosing you can drive though |
| 02:44:02 | captain_proton | are they elevated? |
| 02:44:04 | iLLf8d | no |
| 02:44:09 | captain_proton | no?? |
| 02:44:13 | iLLf8d | nope |
| 02:44:16 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:44:19 | iLLf8d | the ones in decks are the same |
| 02:44:21 | captain_proton | they should be solid then |
| 02:44:22 | iLLf8d | you can fly through them |
| 02:44:27 | captain_proton | the ones in decks are because they're elevated |
| 02:44:33 | iLLf8d | yeah but.... |
| 02:44:34 | captain_proton | and it computes the collision wrong |
| 02:44:40 | iLLf8d | you can shoot and fly through them |
| 02:45:02 | iLLf8d | if pyramids are certain dimensions I notice they lose their solidity |
| 02:45:07 | captain_proton | its computing the collision as if the base were on the ground but the top is at the same place as the real one |
| 02:45:17 | captain_proton | so they're really thin at the top |
| 02:45:56 | iLLf8d | i'll try to lower the pyramids a bit and see if they become solid |
| 02:46:10 | captain_proton | they won't be fully solid unless they're on the ground |
| 02:46:18 | captain_proton | in 1.7 at least |
| 02:46:28 | captain_proton | once crs finishes his collision code... |
| 02:46:51 | iLLf8d | you seen your server |
| 02:46:54 | iLLf8d | unreal huh |
| 02:47:05 | iLLf8d | I was on at like i'm guesing 6am |
| 02:47:10 | iLLf8d | at 4 noone was there |
| 02:47:17 | iLLf8d | at 6 I got on and 40 ppls heh |
| 02:47:24 | iLLf8d | or 38 or something |
| 02:47:30 | iLLf8d | I figured you were testing some new bot code |
| 02:47:39 | iLLf8d | I asked if they were bots or not |
| 02:47:49 | iLLf8d | noone knowed (cause the newbs didn't know the n key) |
| 02:48:09 | iLLf8d | so I was asking for someone to hook me up with the code cause these bots were smart heh |
| 02:48:22 | iLLf8d | then my gf said do they have the same ip I checked and all different so... |
| 02:48:28 | iLLf8d | slashdot LOL |
| 02:49:01 | iLLf8d | s/knowed/knew heh |
| 02:49:07 | iLLf8d | brain lock heh |
| 02:49:53 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 02:50:01 | captain_proton | i went around all avernoon saying /. RULES! |
| 02:56:08 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 02:58:53 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 02:59:00 | iLLf8d | lowering the pyramids didn't help |
| 02:59:06 | iLLf8d | maybe i'll make them taller |
| 02:59:53 | iLLf8d | cap a word of advice you may want to set your server limit lower |
| 03:00:02 | iLLf8d | decks is a madhouse and the game play suffers |
| 03:00:15 | iLLf8d | you don't want these noobs to think the game blows cause of the mob |
| 03:00:30 | captain_proton | there are only 8 people there |
| 03:00:35 | captain_proton | thats not a mob |
| 03:03:32 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 03:03:47 | iLLf8d | earlier there were 38 so.. heh |
| 03:04:02 | iLLf8d | quite often you were shot before you had a chance to move the mouse |
| 03:04:03 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 03:06:31 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 03:06:37 | captain_proton | i spawn moving |
| 03:32:31 | RiSeMaN | is back (gone 01:54:24) |
| 03:32:36 | RiSeMaN | good night :) |
| 05:51:52 | Widget | hihihi |
| 05:52:05 | Widget | Congratulations on your Slashdot appearance! |
| 05:52:51 | Widget | One of the servers is in the process of being slashdotted. |
| 05:58:11 | captain_proton | which? |
| 06:01:58 | captain_proton | heya MrApathyCream |
| 06:02:10 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: played yet today? ;) |
| 06:02:46 | Widget | Er..... the one with the most people. |
| 06:02:49 | Widget | Well, not slashdotted. |
| 06:02:52 | Widget | But it's confusing. |
| 06:02:55 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 06:03:01 | Widget | But I got lots of kills! Lots of /.ers! |
| 06:03:10 | captain_proton | i think when it had 38/40 players it could be considered the /. effect |
| 06:03:12 | MrApathyCream | nope |
| 06:03:22 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i suggest you look through the server list |
| 06:03:27 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 06:03:41 | Widget | Congratulations on your /. appearance, anyway. |
| 06:04:14 | MrApathyCream | cool |
| 06:04:35 | MrApathyCream | now i won't be able to play anywhere ( lag to large :( ) |
| 06:04:46 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: actually the lag has been just about the same |
| 06:04:49 | Widget | MrApathyCream: It really wasn't too bad when I tried. Do you have boradband? |
| 06:04:57 | MrApathyCream | ha |
| 06:05:06 | Widget | But I prefer games with ... 5 people or so. |
| 06:05:10 | Widget | This place was crawling. |
| 06:05:19 | MrApathyCream | dental floss-band |
| 06:05:21 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: a lot of the /. people are on broadband 'cause they're geeks |
| 06:05:24 | Widget | The list of people filled my entire screen. It was.... strange. |
| 06:05:49 | Widget | A lot of /. people are modding each other down. |
| 06:06:05 | Widget | It is really a conspiracy... they want to kill all non-/.ers off to prepare for the coming of.... |
| 06:06:11 | Widget | CowboyNeal!!! |
| 06:06:47 | captain_proton | hahahahaha |
| 06:07:17 | Widget | Hm.... should I enter CowboyNeal as my callsign, I wonder? |
| 06:07:35 | Widget | Oh, BTW, when exactly in May is the tournament? |
| 06:07:57 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 06:08:00 | captain_proton | thats up to Chestal |
| 06:08:08 | captain_proton | probably whenever we get the rest of the league stuff worked out ;) |
| 06:08:23 | Widget | Cool. 3v3, yes? |
| 06:08:35 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 06:08:38 | Widget | So what about all the teams with less than 3 players? |
| 06:08:49 | captain_proton | they won't be able to play until they get 3 ;) |
| 06:09:29 | Widget | Or until they register another callsign and enter it into their own team. |
| 06:09:45 | Widget | Hm..... that reminds me, I have to close my team. |
| 06:09:47 | captain_proton | well |
| 06:09:50 | Widget | But then, who would want to join it anyway? |
| 06:09:52 | captain_proton | they'll have to have 3 people playing |
| 06:10:26 | Widget | They can play one callsign with their hands, and the other with their feet. |
| 06:10:35 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 06:10:43 | captain_proton | i suppose that would make them eligible, wouldn't it? |
| 06:11:28 | Widget | Hm... when someone joined my team, I got _three_ notifications. Is that normal? |
| 06:11:36 | captain_proton | no |
| 06:13:14 | MrApathyCream | heh, rikers has 65515 players currently |
| 06:13:53 | Widget | Oh, I saw that once. |
| 06:14:00 | Widget | Heh. |
| 06:14:03 | Widget | Bug? |
| 06:14:39 | Widget | Are all the people in the Froot loops squad the same person? |
| 06:15:17 | captain_proton | nope |
| 06:15:29 | captain_proton | they just are using those names so we don't know who they are |
| 06:15:30 | Widget | So they're all named .0o0o0oo0. or somesuch? |
| 06:15:38 | Widget | Ah. Why? |
| 06:16:00 | captain_proton | they thought it would be fun? |
| 06:18:08 | Widget | Will BZFlag 1.8 have inbuilt support for teams? (CTF teams, not the present kind) |
| 06:18:21 | captain_proton | yah |
| 06:53:29 | onthemark | heya kiddies |
| 06:53:42 | captain_proton | hey onthemark |
| 06:53:54 | onthemark | how come so many players tonight???? |
| 06:54:02 | captain_proton | we got slashdotted |
| 06:54:08 | onthemark | whats that? |
| 06:54:14 | captain_proton | www.slashdot.org |
| 06:54:29 | captain_proton | when something gets a link/story, hordes of people look at it |
| 06:54:59 | iLLf8d | onthemark: when I got on at 6am this morning |
| 06:55:05 | iLLf8d | decks was almost to capacity |
| 06:55:06 | onthemark | yeesh nerds |
| 06:55:08 | iLLf8d | 38ppls |
| 06:55:13 | iLLf8d | it was a madhouse |
| 06:55:19 | iLLf8d | almost unplayable |
| 06:55:23 | onthemark | theres like 80 players on right now throughout servers |
| 06:55:25 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:55:28 | captain_proton | likes madhouses |
| 06:55:35 | onthemark | heh |
| 06:55:37 | EddieNull | .msg my_friend so check this out. the game I ported, bzflag, gets slashdotted today. So all these OS X nerds are running to my site for the port. I just pulled up my web stats. on an averege day my site transfers 1.7MB which is mostly me view bookmarks and whatnot, well today I transfered a whopping 1.2GB. quite a difference :) |
| 06:55:45 | onthemark | lots of easy prey i suppose |
| 06:55:47 | EddieNull | it is nutty :) |
| 06:56:05 | captain_proton | lol EddieNull |
| 06:56:28 | onthemark | guy should charge a penny each entrance fee |
| 06:56:53 | iLLf8d | onthemark: this morning there must've been well over 100 |
| 06:57:00 | iLLf8d | probably 150-200 heh |
| 06:57:03 | EddieNull | ...and i'm actually off for a quick game before bedtime ;) |
| 06:57:07 | onthemark | i see the teams are filled up now too |
| 06:57:12 | onthemark | ntooooo many |
| 06:57:15 | iLLf8d | actually it wasn't too easy |
| 06:57:19 | iLLf8d | you had to drop shoot and jump |
| 06:57:23 | onthemark | got shot every time you pop up |
| 06:57:30 | iLLf8d | so many people on the ground most people got shot out from under you |
| 06:57:37 | onthemark | yup |
| 06:57:54 | onthemark | who will stop this MADNESSSSSSS??????? |
| 06:58:15 | iLLf8d | no not every time |
| 06:58:20 | iLLf8d | i'd say 1 in 6 |
| 06:58:21 | onthemark | going to have to start private servers |
| 06:58:22 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 06:58:26 | iLLf8d | it was like pop bang |
| 06:58:27 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 06:58:44 | iLLf8d | I think it'll quite down |
| 06:58:50 | onthemark | ni popped in and shot 3 shots and killed 2 people |
| 06:58:53 | iLLf8d | actually the mob thismorning i'm sure scared most players off |
| 06:58:58 | onthemark | then i got shot |
| 06:59:04 | onthemark | good |
| 06:59:07 | iLLf8d | I scored points 153 I think |
| 06:59:09 | iLLf8d | but still |
| 06:59:11 | iLLf8d | was mobbed |
| 06:59:21 | onthemark | theres guys with 300 + |
| 06:59:26 | iLLf8d | everyone was acusing me of cheating heh |
| 06:59:33 | onthemark | experience |
| 06:59:59 | onthemark | well time to try it again i think |
| 07:00:16 | onthemark | you up for it tank? |
| 07:01:31 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 07:01:32 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 07:18:20 | jpablo | hey dydes |
| 07:18:27 | jpablo | hey dudes |
| 07:18:28 | captain_proton | harro |
| 07:36:17 | Widget | Hello, jpablo. |
| 07:38:56 | jpablo | hi Widget |
| 07:42:23 | MrApathyCream | heh, found a design flaw in bzfs command line, when writing my bzfs command line builder applet.... |
| 07:42:32 | MrApathyCream | bzfs +f -> +f <- |
| 07:42:33 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:43:01 | captain_proton | hee hee |
| 07:43:36 | captain_proton | whats wrong with that? |
| 07:43:41 | captain_proton | wait - shouldn't it be -f? |
| 07:43:42 | MrApathyCream | > is pipe |
| 07:43:50 | captain_proton | maybe on windows |
| 07:43:52 | MrApathyCream | < same too |
| 07:44:16 | MrApathyCream | myprogram.exe < data.file |
| 07:44:22 | MrApathyCream | myprogram reads form data.file |
| 07:44:27 | MrApathyCream | s/form/from/ |
| 07:44:55 | MrApathyCream | s/b +f LT +f RT |
| 07:45:00 | MrApathyCream | oh well |
| 07:45:08 | iLL_BZFlag | yeah good idea |
| 07:45:17 | iLL_BZFlag | or BonedLT and BonedRT |
| 07:45:19 | iLL_BZFlag | heh |
| 07:45:45 | iLLf8d | sheesh i'm running into a ton of worlds lately that won't run on the server |
| 07:45:51 | MrApathyCream | not done yet, but try applet out... http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html (pick bzfs command line builder |
| 07:45:51 | iLLf8d | its really starting to aggrivate me |
| 07:46:04 | iLLf8d | gerbs sent me a few we've hacked on and can't get to work |
| 07:46:16 | iLLf8d | and i've made a few that run fine then I make like one more change and they b0rk |
| 07:46:18 | iLLf8d | I don't get it |
| 07:46:26 | jpablo | bzfs +f -\> +f \<- |
| 07:46:51 | jpablo | you need to scape thoses chars. |
| 07:46:53 | captain_proton | b0rk b0rk |
| 07:47:09 | jpablo | bzfs +f '->' +f '<-' will do that too i think |
| 07:47:29 | MrApathyCream | get invalid flag '-\' |
| 07:47:31 | captain_proton | at least on nix |
| 07:48:08 | jpablo | oh, i see you are using windows. |
| 07:48:09 | iLLf8d | hey cream can you dcc me a batch file to fireup a windows bzflag field? |
| 07:48:20 | jpablo | maybe if you download cygwin :-) |
| 07:48:26 | MrApathyCream | <or with +f '->' get invalid flag '- |
| 07:48:27 | iLLf8d | I'd like to fire it up on my gfs machine and play on my linux machine |
| 07:48:53 | MrApathyCream | iLLf8d: not done yet, but try applet out... http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html (pick bzfs command line builder |
| 07:50:08 | iLLf8d | I did didn't do anything |
| 07:50:08 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 07:50:08 | iLLf8d | lemme run it in my gfs machine |
| 07:50:08 | MrApathyCream | applet didn't come up? |
| 07:50:11 | iLLf8d | nope |
| 07:50:13 | MrApathyCream | running a dark-ages explorer? |
| 07:50:15 | iLLf8d | mozilla tho |
| 07:50:28 | iLLf8d | nah i'm running java enabled mozilla |
| 07:50:38 | MrApathyCream | new java? |
| 07:50:40 | MrApathyCream | 1.3? |
| 07:50:43 | MrApathyCream | 1.2? |
| 07:50:45 | iLLf8d | yeah probably |
| 07:51:04 | iLLf8d | 1.3 I think |
| 07:51:08 | iLLf8d | installed it like 2-3 weeks ago |
| 07:51:21 | iLLf8d | doesn't come up on my gfs machine either |
| 07:51:29 | iLLf8d | she's got the latest ie |
| 07:51:30 | MrApathyCream | any error messages, or just gray square |
| 07:51:40 | iLLf8d | no its a shot of a tank firing a laser |
| 07:51:51 | iLLf8d | its a gif |
| 07:51:55 | iLLf8d | easyshot.gif |
| 07:52:13 | iLLf8d | ntheres no bzflag command line buffer thing anywhere |
| 07:52:28 | MrApathyCream | Is your browser frames enabled? |
| 07:52:34 | iLLf8d | yeah in both |
| 07:52:40 | iLLf8d | we've got cutting edge mozilla and ie |
| 07:52:41 | MrApathyCream | left hand side, pick BZFS bat file builder |
| 07:52:42 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: does your applet support flag zones? ;) |
| 07:52:49 | MrApathyCream | heh: captain_proton: no |
| 07:52:57 | iLLf8d | ok |
| 07:53:01 | iLLf8d | nloading an applet |
| 07:53:07 | iLLf8d | thats working |
| 07:53:12 | iLLf8d | or appears to be |
| 07:53:39 | captain_proton | its "Rogues" not "Roques" |
| 07:54:01 | jpablo | what are flag zones ? |
| 07:54:17 | MrApathyCream | locations where you want flags to appear |
| 07:54:23 | MrApathyCream | not in current builds |
| 07:54:31 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 07:54:33 | captain_proton | its a patch on sf |
| 07:54:50 | MrApathyCream | heh Roques.... a new kind |
| 07:54:57 | MrApathyCream | thanks |
| 07:55:04 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 07:55:12 | iLLf8d | what does windows want for listen on interface? |
| 07:55:14 | iLLf8d | enif0? |
| 07:55:17 | iLLf8d | or what? |
| 07:55:23 | iLLf8d | eth0? |
| 07:55:30 | iLLf8d | windows is wierd |
| 07:55:56 | MrApathyCream | i don't put anything, I think it's if you have two network cards |
| 07:56:12 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 07:56:13 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 07:56:16 | iLLf8d | does it work yet? |
| 07:56:22 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: on *nix you need to specify the server IP (at least in my experience) or it listens on the loopback |
| 07:56:28 | iLLf8d | if not I won't bother fiddling with it |
| 07:56:30 | iLLf8d | looks cool tho |
| 07:56:46 | iLLf8d | captain_proton: its for weenos batch files |
| 07:57:04 | iLLf8d | or seems to be |
| 07:57:11 | captain_proton | carolyn's adventures has a new episode up (6 isn't posted because i don't have a copy of the log yet) |
| 07:57:39 | MrApathyCream | it partially works.... I haven't implemented everything yet. World panel is blank, and Tank panel doesn't output anything yet |
| 07:58:10 | MrApathyCream | push ->build<- |
| 08:01:03 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 08:01:14 | iLLf8d | whats the command look like (the call to start it?)? |
| 08:01:36 | iLLf8d | I've written batches before just unsure of how to send it a command |
| 08:01:55 | iLLf8d | you used to be able to send command line switches in shortcuts but that doesn't seem to work |
| 08:05:19 | MrApathyCream | just open a cmd.exe window, cd to bzflag dir, and paste in |
| 08:07:59 | MrApathyCream | you can make a shortcut too |
| 08:08:07 | MrApathyCream | just make sure you start in the right directory |
| 08:08:22 | captain_proton | chuckles @ windows' "command line" |
| 08:08:27 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 08:16:55 | MrApathyCream | What is non-capture the flag called? |
| 08:17:01 | MrApathyCream | death match? |
| 08:18:38 | captain_proton | in 1.7 its called free-for-all |
| 08:18:43 | captain_proton | in 1.8 its called death-match |
| 08:44:33 | MrApathyCream | tanks |
| 08:48:43 | MrApathyCream | applet updated with world panel... most settings work |
| 08:49:54 | captain_proton | takes a lookie |
| 08:50:10 | captain_proton | i see no world panel |
| 08:52:37 | MrApathyCream | slaps captain_proton for pulling his leg |
| 08:52:49 | MrApathyCream | wonders when he'll get fry daddy back from captain_proton |
| 08:57:29 | captain_proton | never!!! |
| 09:00:17 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i still see no world panel |
| 09:05:00 | captain_proton | kicks MrApathyCream: I WANT MY WORLD PANEL! WAAHHHHHH! |
| 09:09:52 | iLLf8d | hey apathy |
| 09:10:08 | iLLf8d | that applet doesn't display correctly in mozilla |
| 09:10:09 | iLLf8d | its short |
| 09:10:35 | iLLf8d | can't read or get to the slot after synchronize time on the server tab |
| 09:24:52 | iLLf8d | ROFLMAO "linux games need better names. bzflag sounds like a compression utility or something. i bet we'd all be playing it if it was called something like 'armoured smashing-fist 2000', not bzip2." |
| 09:24:57 | iLLf8d | quote from slashdot |
| 10:02:20 | MrApathyCream | do applet's cache? maybe need a refresh? dunno |
| 10:03:38 | MrApathyCream | iLLf8d: sheesh how big of fonts do you have? the applet sizing is 500x500 in html after all |
| 10:05:15 | MrApathyCream | hears birds awakening outside, stumbles off to bed |
| 10:06:35 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 13:12:44 | Chestal | re |
| 14:02:37 | T-34 | Nobody on Ducati CTF :( |
| 14:03:45 | Chestal | hmm, I coudl take a stroll, it's nice waether here, although a little cold |
| 14:04:26 | T-34 | uf, cu tankers |
| 14:04:31 | T-34 | bye |
| 14:27:06 | Chestal | hi corbani |
| 14:29:26 | corbani | hi |
| 14:33:14 | corbani | yo |
| 15:26:56 | scanline | is back (gone 18:38:22) |
| 16:30:06 | vogon_jeltz | is away: 0xf00fc7c8 |
| 20:47:04 | jpablo | morning |
| 21:10:25 | Shambugh | wheres good bzflag server? |
| 21:10:56 | Shambugh | also, is there a way to chagne the detail level in bzflag? i see these fly ass textured screenshots, but im not sure if that comes with the irix demo verison |
| 21:11:24 | Chestal | ehm, which version are you using? |
| 21:11:27 | Chestal | grmpf |
| 21:14:08 | iLL | heh |
| 22:04:18 | Widget | Chestal: When exactly in May will the tournament be? |
| 22:04:26 | Widget | Chestal: captain_proton said to ask you. |
| 22:05:16 | Chestal | well, I have no idea |
| 22:05:29 | Chestal | May was juts a wild guess from Valoche |
| 22:05:43 | Chestal | we'll have to think about the details first |
| 22:05:56 | Widget | Hopefully it won't be in the first week or so. |
| 22:06:05 | Chestal | current plan is to get the league started by allowing individual challenges |
| 22:06:19 | Widget | OK, cool. Thanks. |
| 22:06:34 | Chestal | when we really get 20 active teams, a tournament cannot be done on a single day anyway |
| 22:07:15 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 22:07:20 | Widget | Yeah, I was wondering what week. |
| 22:07:23 | Widget | Or week(s). |
| 22:07:35 | Widget | First week of May are AP tests for high school students. |
| 22:09:17 | Chestal | Widget: the only one I remember havng seen on the battlefield from your team is Wing |
| 22:10:59 | Widget | Chestal: Yes, he's the only good player on our team. |
| 22:11:06 | Widget | Chestal: As compared to us. |
| 22:11:15 | Widget | (The other players on the team) |
| 22:11:57 | Chestal | in fact, there are a lot of people I haven't seen on my ctf server yet |
| 22:12:06 | Chestal | captain: are peopel using bhaskara ctf? |
| 22:12:25 | captain_proton | Chestal: yesterday it was packed all the time - right now there are 3 people there |
| 22:12:32 | Widget | uses ducati. |
| 22:14:11 | Chestal | hmm, sf project stats are not quite up to date |
| 23:00:57 | iLL | hey all |
| 23:01:07 | iLL | you guys gotta make me an enforcer client |
| 23:01:11 | iLL | that numbers guy is on again |
| 23:01:16 | captain_proton | h 4 r r 0 |
| 23:01:22 | captain_proton | where? |
| 23:01:23 | iLL | something where you can go out and just fuck with dudes like that |
| 23:01:28 | iLL | ryko field |
| 23:01:33 | iLL | or whatever it is |
| 23:01:42 | iLL | I've tried what I can do... |
| 23:01:58 | iLLf8d | high speed invincible |
| 23:02:00 | iLLf8d | killing ppls |
| 23:02:04 | captain_proton | server list is dog slow |
| 23:02:09 | iLLf8d | morphs between tiny etc... |
| 23:05:12 | Chestal | the number guy is getting annoyingm he seem to be on every day |
| 23:05:18 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 23:05:20 | captain_proton | he never talks either |
| 23:05:24 | Chestal | I wonder where's the fun in cheating like this |
| 23:05:41 | iLLf8d | he's probably someone we used to shoot relentlessly for cheating heh |
| 23:05:44 | captain_proton | i almost understand cheating from a coder's pserpective |
| 23:05:54 | iLLf8d | ie someone who shot like colored teamates or something heh |
| 23:06:16 | iLLf8d | yeah that would be fine as an explanation of seeing what you can do... |
| 23:06:18 | Chestal | captain: I understand that people try to modify the client and see what happens. That's fun a few times. |
| 23:06:56 | iLLf8d | its nice to have a featureful tank just to mess with friends and goof off from time to time i'd think |
| 23:06:59 | iLLf8d | as a novelty |
| 23:07:04 | captain_proton | i do wish they'd just become developers though |
| 23:07:07 | iLLf8d | but that guys is just annoying |
| 23:07:08 | Chestal | 150MB of Debian update nearing completion |
| 23:07:45 | iLLf8d | Chestal: hows it coming? |
| 23:07:51 | iLLf8d | you were the guy newer to debian right? |
| 23:08:09 | Chestal | iLLf8d: ehm, what do you mean? |
| 23:08:13 | iLLf8d | or was it someone you were helping in channel |
| 23:08:26 | captain_proton | updating debian isn't hard |
| 23:08:39 | iLLf8d | I thought someone just installed it |
| 23:08:48 | iLLf8d | the other day someone was asking questions about it |
| 23:08:54 | Chestal | CobraA1 wanted to instlal it |
| 23:09:05 | Chestal | I insalled it some months ago, but I have earlier experience with it |
| 23:09:17 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 23:09:26 | Chestal | it's jsut that there are so many packages in it now, and bery frequent updates |
| 23:09:27 | iLLf8d | I think i'm gonna take a crack at gentoo |
| 23:09:42 | Chestal | my last update was about 3-4 weeks ago, and this resultd in 150MB |
| 23:09:58 | iLLf8d | yeah you don't have to do them too frequently |
| 23:10:02 | Chestal | and it took me 15 minutes to browse the lsit of new packages |
| 23:10:11 | captain_proton | goes to empty his bladder |
| 23:10:21 | iLLf8d | dunno if you're seeing this as a good or bad thing |
| 23:10:22 | iLLf8d | ? |
| 23:11:05 | Chestal | hmm, FreeType support in mozilla, do I want this? |
| 23:11:16 | Chestal | I don't know either :-) |
| 23:11:32 | iLLf8d | sure |
| 23:11:48 | iLLf8d | freetype is basically ttf |
| 23:11:50 | captain_proton | Chestal: yes |
| 23:12:01 | iLLf8d | makes it look pertier |
| 23:12:29 | Chestal | yeah, but XFree already has TTF support |
| 23:12:31 | iLLf8d | whats the scoop with the league so it doesn't sneak up on us? |
| 23:12:34 | iLLf8d | dates etc...? |
| 23:12:39 | Chestal | this looks liek a direct Freetype support withotu relying on X |
| 23:12:41 | captain_proton | no dates yet |
| 23:12:52 | captain_proton | Chestal: thats what freetype is |
| 23:12:56 | captain_proton | truetype font rendering |
| 23:13:05 | captain_proton | you want it |
| 23:13:13 | Chestal | captain: I know, but that's usually a feature of the X engine |
| 23:13:19 | Chestal | captian: I have truetype workign on X |
| 23:13:26 | captain_proton | Chestal: xfstt? |
| 23:13:28 | Chestal | captain: I wonde rif I need that special mozilla TT support |
| 23:13:40 | Chestal | cpatian: no, no font sevre rhere, just Freetype module in XFree4 |
| 23:13:41 | captain_proton | Chestal: i think the ttf support in mozilla does antialiasing |
| 23:13:50 | Chestal | captain_proton: yes, it seems to do it |
| 23:13:55 | Chestal | oh well, I guess I'll activate it |
| 23:14:00 | captain_proton | can't hurt |
| 23:14:30 | Chestal | hmm, X updated also |
| 23:14:42 | iLLf8d | why can't any of these devels come up with one messenger client |
| 23:14:45 | captain_proton | is upgrading glibc right now |
| 23:14:48 | iLLf8d | its really starting to piss me off heh |
| 23:15:00 | iLLf8d | gabber... but its a pos |
| 23:15:23 | iLLf8d | msn,yahoo,aim,icq,etc... theres a few others |
| 23:15:31 | iLLf8d | getting annoying how many there are |
| 23:16:59 | Chestal | I'm using gaim for AIM/icq |
| 23:17:05 | Chestal | it's ok for what I need |
| 23:17:13 | iLLf8d | icq? |
| 23:17:18 | iLLf8d | how does it do icq? |
| 23:17:34 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: because its programmed to do icq |
| 23:17:46 | captain_proton | i used to use icq but everybody i know is on aim now |
| 23:17:52 | Chestal | ill: it can do ICQ either directly with an additonal plugin or indirectly via AIM |
| 23:17:58 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 23:18:03 | iLLf8d | I don't see a menu for it |
| 23:18:07 | iLLf8d | maybe I need to update |
| 23:18:11 | Chestal | I'm only using the indirect way, you don't hae the full functionality, but it's ok |
| 23:18:24 | captain_proton | that reminds me, i should upgrade gaim while i'm at this |
| 23:18:29 | iLLf8d | when I add an account it not showing icq |
| 23:19:25 | iLLf8d | v.51? |
| 23:19:41 | Chestal | well, I have two accounts in gaim |
| 23:19:48 | Chestal | one AIM, one ICQ |
| 23:20:01 | Chestal | sharing the common AIM/ICQ oscar protocol |
| 23:20:15 | Chestal | just use your ICQ UID as screenname |
| 23:20:29 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: latest is .54 |
| 23:20:45 | Chestal | 0.55 here |
| 23:20:54 | captain_proton | oh? |
| 23:21:05 | Chestal | wel, I just updated my Debian :-) |
| 23:21:18 | Widget | whees. |
| 23:21:38 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 23:22:42 | Widget | I need to practice more on ducati and bhaskara. |
| 23:23:03 | captain_proton | who doesn't? |
| 23:23:08 | Widget | You. |
| 23:23:12 | captain_proton | oh i do |
| 23:23:14 | Chestal | it's difficult to practice with your own team |
| 23:23:23 | captain_proton | there are still people who kick my ass on that setup |
| 23:23:42 | Widget | They're probably all on meq, though. ;) |
| 23:23:47 | captain_proton | nah |
| 23:23:59 | Chestal | is not afraid of no meq team :-) |
| 23:24:12 | Widget | notes the clever use of double negatives. |
| 23:24:33 | Widget | Worthy of the US Constitution writers. |
| 23:24:40 | Chestal | did I suggest allowing people to place bets on matches? |
| 23:24:50 | captain_proton | no i don't think you did |
| 23:25:06 | iLLf8d | yeah the competition will be tough |
| 23:25:13 | iLLf8d | I think i'd be happy just to place |
| 23:25:19 | Widget | Moi aussi. |
| 23:25:28 | Chestal | we really need a message board or similar for the league |
| 23:25:33 | Widget | Hi, yz. |
| 23:25:35 | captain_proton | yeah we do |
| 23:25:37 | yz | hello. |
| 23:25:49 | Widget | Hm... can't you use the BZFlag ezboard? |
| 23:25:52 | captain_proton | Chestal: i'm sure there are about 10 billion different bbs systems on sf |
| 23:25:53 | Chestal | I think the froot loops will be the best team |
| 23:26:00 | captain_proton | Chestal: oh? |
| 23:26:01 | Widget | Hm..... it would be convenient to have it on the webpage, though. |
| 23:26:05 | captain_proton | we don't even know who they are |
| 23:26:08 | Widget | The .o0o0o0o0o0. people? |
| 23:26:12 | Chestal | yep |
| 23:26:14 | captain_proton | Widget: ezboard has popup ads |
| 23:26:18 | captain_proton | i'm not using it |
| 23:26:25 | yz | .. sorry about this, but i'm new with this, if i start my own local bzflag-server, just to check out the game, how come it gives me the 'wrong client version' reply? .. kinda strange. |
| 23:26:30 | Chestal | I stil hope that the moles will be best, thugh :-) |
| 23:26:32 | Widget | captain_proton: Hm. Yes, you have to pay to get rid of them. |
| 23:26:54 | Chestal | yz: 1.7E4? how did you start the server? |
| 23:27:01 | captain_proton | moles frongs & at nam etc are gonna be our biggest competition |
| 23:27:13 | Chestal | my galeon is immune to popup-ads |
| 23:27:13 | yz | Chestal, newest version, yes. i just pressed the 'start server' button in the game. |
| 23:27:30 | crash | hmm, i wonder if the froot loop people are monkey, cap, badass, and kono |
| 23:27:39 | Widget | crash: What makes you think that? |
| 23:27:40 | captain_proton | kono? |
| 23:27:42 | captain_proton | yikes |
| 23:27:49 | captain_proton | i haven't seen kono is ages |
| 23:27:53 | yz | (i just got my old ati to use it's 3d function. bzflag was an obvious choice. :) |
| 23:27:56 | Chestal | yz: hmm, I haven#t tried this fr a long time. I thought it would work with E4, but not with e5 because of the new -pr option |
| 23:28:00 | crash | hmm, don't know |
| 23:28:10 | Chestal | kono was seen on ducati about a week ago |
| 23:28:18 | captain_proton | thats cool |
| 23:28:22 | crash | monkey told me months ago that the four of them would join a team |
| 23:28:30 | captain_proton | i was wondering if 'grandmother' was who i thought it was |
| 23:28:32 | crash | but i don't know |
| 23:28:40 | yz | Chestal, the -pr option? :) |
| 23:28:46 | Widget | Press release. |
| 23:28:48 | captain_proton | if they're the loops they'll be another serious competitor |
| 23:28:55 | captain_proton | yz: it defines the reconnect port |
| 23:29:05 | Chestal | I think crash is right about the loops |
| 23:29:16 | Chestal | yz: but you have e4, not e5 (CVS)? |
| 23:29:23 | yz | i got e4, yes. |
| 23:29:27 | captain_proton | although i was playing a couple of them and they were only average |
| 23:29:31 | Widget | I thought 1.8a1 was CVS. |
| 23:29:40 | Chestal | Widget: we have two CVS branches |
| 23:29:40 | captain_proton | Widget: yes |
| 23:29:45 | crash | so Ches is your team staying at four players? (just asking, not to join your team or anything) |
| 23:29:47 | yz | Chestal, i just wanted to try the game. cvs is for if i like it. :) |
| 23:30:05 | captain_proton | yz: could it be you have an old bzfs in your path? |
| 23:30:18 | Chestal | crash: I suppose so. tankmann+lupi+I eantd to join a team. Akira joined later because he begged to ;-) |
| 23:30:31 | crash | lol :) |
| 23:30:31 | yz | captain_proton, no. just got opengl to work. so i haven't tried it before. |
| 23:30:33 | Chestal | yz: what operating system? |
| 23:30:41 | captain_proton | yz: it might have possibly been installed by your distro (?) |
| 23:30:54 | captain_proton | Chestal: akira's good though |
| 23:30:56 | Chestal | crash: well, I now akira pretty well from bz, and it#s always god to have a substitute |
| 23:30:57 | yz | chestal, linux. slackware 8. |
| 23:31:02 | yz | captain_proton, no, not really. :) |
| 23:31:11 | captain_proton | yz: ahh - didn't know it was slack ;) |
| 23:31:19 | Chestal | captain: yes, I was his tutor :-) |
| 23:31:24 | captain_proton | haha |
| 23:31:35 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:31:37 | captain_proton | rat is growing |
| 23:32:00 | captain_proton | so - anybody else have the suspicion that 'grandmother' is oma? |
| 23:32:02 | Chestal | yz: hmm, I got no e4 installe don my machine here, if this is not working, try to start the server manually from the command line |
| 23:32:10 | Chestal | yz: that#s the preferred way anyway |
| 23:32:21 | Chestal | oh? sen no grandma |
| 23:32:25 | captain_proton | yeah - command line has a lot more control over server options |
| 23:32:29 | yz | Chestal, yeah i'm working on that right now.. going through the comandline. |
| 23:32:32 | captain_proton | Chestal: founder of 'BZ1908' |
| 23:32:34 | yz | eh, the helpfiles. :) |
| 23:32:38 | Widget | captain_proton: Wing thinks that. |
| 23:33:05 | Chestal | Oa used to be good on the 3 shots/jumping/flags setup |
| 23:33:16 | Chestal | but he was only 'ok' on ducati setup |
| 23:33:23 | captain_proton | Chestal: he can aim |
| 23:33:27 | captain_proton | thats whats important |
| 23:33:37 | crash | he was one of the gm gods :) |
| 23:33:38 | Chestal | my worst nightmare didn't jon so far |
| 23:33:43 | crash | who? |
| 23:33:52 | Chestal | Zig |
| 23:33:58 | crash | ahh |
| 23:33:59 | captain_proton | zig is your worst nightmare? |
| 23:34:13 | Chestal | he is the one I have the most trouble hitting |
| 23:34:26 | captain_proton | laz used to be my worst nightmare but he's gotten out of practice |
| 23:34:34 | crash | i think he is the best, yuk :/ (zig) |
| 23:34:34 | Chestal | I can annoy him with some nice ricochet quite easily, though :-) |
| 23:34:56 | captain_proton | i guess most of my experience with zig is on decks |
| 23:35:00 | Chestal | zig is the best at evadng |
| 23:35:26 | captain_proton | and he doesn't know how to play the decks |
| 23:35:26 | crash | if you get close to him he is pretty easy |
| 23:35:27 | Chestal | yz: you only need very few options to get started wit bzfs |
| 23:35:35 | crash | but i haven't played him in months |
| 23:35:39 | captain_proton | bzfs +s 20 +j -r +r |
| 23:35:50 | Chestal | but zig is a solo player, most of the time he wants to play 1:1 |
| 23:36:05 | Chestal | do not use +j, it's evil :-) |
| 23:36:11 | Widget | Tanks do not jump. |
| 23:36:12 | captain_proton | mwahahahahaha |
| 23:36:20 | Chestal | Zi gwas on ducati a coupel of days ago |
| 23:36:24 | Chestal | but he sucked |
| 23:36:25 | captain_proton | they do if you add -j to your command line |
| 23:36:26 | Widget | I have never seen a jumping tank in my life. |
| 23:36:32 | Chestal | didn't play for 3 months |
| 23:36:37 | Chestal | and had a new mouse |
| 23:36:40 | captain_proton | if you want realism join the army |
| 23:36:49 | captain_proton | i like my jumping on certain maps |
| 23:37:00 | crash | after 3 months i'll probably stink too |
| 23:37:04 | crash | i'll see soon :) |
| 23:37:13 | Chestal | when I started with bz, I played 1 shot, nu jumping, no rico |
| 23:37:17 | captain_proton | crash: were you the 'Crash' on last night? |
| 23:37:28 | crash | only lower case |
| 23:37:31 | crash | so no |
| 23:37:33 | captain_proton | ok |
| 23:37:39 | yz | Chestal, thanks. got it working now. had to use another port for some reason. still it won't find any servers out there. could be my firewall? bzrelay confuses me. |
| 23:37:42 | captain_proton | so many new people with older people's names |
| 23:37:50 | captain_proton | there was a 'Capn' on my ctf today |
| 23:37:58 | captain_proton | and i was talking to him thinking he was CapN |
| 23:37:59 | crash | who is Crash? |
| 23:38:02 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 23:38:06 | captain_proton | probably some new /. kiddie |
| 23:38:13 | Widget | captain_proton: Oh, he wasn't CapN? |
| 23:38:18 | captain_proton | Widget: nope |
| 23:38:19 | Widget | captain_proton: I thought he was CapN too. |
| 23:38:31 | Chestal | yz: hmm, 'Find Server' isn't working? |
| 23:38:33 | captain_proton | i was giving him flak about his score being so low |
| 23:38:42 | captain_proton | and he got mad and finally told me he was new |
| 23:38:45 | captain_proton | then i had to apologize |
| 23:38:53 | Widget | laughs! |
| 23:38:56 | crash | wow |
| 23:39:09 | Chestal | yz: the network code currently is a little complicated, we are using a superioir and simpler scheme with 1.8. Shuld be much easier to setup with firewalls then |
| 23:39:29 | yz | Chestal, no. it halts on 'servers found: 0' and justs stands there. |
| 23:39:35 | captain_proton | bzfs is weird |
| 23:39:37 | Chestal | it#s time we move on with 1.8 and get the player regsitry up, so Calsign colliisons cannot occur |
| 23:39:38 | captain_proton | err |
| 23:39:40 | captain_proton | bzfls |
| 23:39:49 | yz | Chestal, you're saying i should go with cvs? :) |
| 23:39:49 | captain_proton | i don't know whats happening with the list server at the moment |
| 23:39:51 | Widget | Ah, yes, once I "collided" a callsign. |
| 23:39:54 | Widget | It was..... weird. |
| 23:39:55 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 23:39:56 | Chestal | I cannot check if the lsit server is workign right now |
| 23:39:58 | Widget | Surreal. |
| 23:40:01 | jpablo_ | what's the option to generate a random map on ctf ? |
| 23:40:05 | Chestal | yz: eh, no. 1.8 is not ready for prime time yet |
| 23:40:10 | iLLf8d | we need a calsign kill feature too |
| 23:40:13 | captain_proton | jpablo_: just add -c to the command line and it generates |
| 23:40:18 | iLLf8d | for those of us with bum connections |
| 23:40:36 | Widget | Hi, T-34. |
| 23:40:38 | iLLf8d | notices the we altho hasn't coded a line =P |
| 23:40:42 | Chestal | yz: 'fidn server' uses http to connect to the meta list url |
| 23:40:44 | T-34 | Hi Widget |
| 23:40:48 | iLLf8d | it my subliminal programming |
| 23:40:49 | Chestal | yz: do you have to use a proxy for http? |
| 23:40:59 | Widget | T-34: What happened after I left on bhaskara? |
| 23:41:00 | yz | Chestal, no, i've got a masq box here. |
| 23:41:09 | yz | http should work perfectly. |
| 23:41:16 | Chestal | yz: hmm, should work then. |
| 23:41:20 | captain_proton | the only servers i see are my local ones |
| 23:41:24 | T-34 | Dear Widget I can't say much |
| 23:41:28 | Chestal | capt: oh, so list server is down? |
| 23:41:41 | T-34 | the greens start making points |
| 23:41:44 | captain_proton | Chestal: i'm not getting an error, just not getting any servers |
| 23:42:10 | Widget | T-34: Did we squander the lead [meq] captain_proton got us? |
| 23:42:30 | Chestal | maybe I should reinstall 1.7 at my hoem box |
| 23:42:34 | T-34 | after that it appear ara, jh and other thought guys and I was start laging so I go out |
| 23:42:43 | Chestal | I can only play in my office right now :-) |
| 23:42:58 | | it has been said that sorry is When I've got nothing more to say. |
| 23:42:58 | T-34 | sorry? |
| 23:43:23 | T-34 | wait a sec. to get a dictionary |
| 23:43:37 | Chestal | captain: nuum complains that noone can join his newly founded team, as if it wa closed!? |
| 23:43:44 | captain_proton | lemme check the db |
| 23:44:02 | captain_proton | i noticed that one new team had been created without a status |
| 23:44:38 | Chestal | the edit oage says: |
| 23:44:39 | Chestal | The team is currently (forced because you have 1 player) |
| 23:46:03 | Widget | Chestal: That's what it said for me when I was the only member of my team too. |
| 23:46:16 | captain_proton | Chestal: its not setting the initial value to 'opened' |
| 23:46:20 | captain_proton | goes to fix |
| 23:46:23 | Widget | Chestal: As a matter of fact, that happened to me too, that someone couldn't join my team. |
| 23:47:14 | Chestal | yz: you can checkout http://166.70.15.250:5156/ when the server list isn't working |
| 23:47:29 | yz | chestal, great. thanks. :). |
| 23:47:32 | Chestal | yz: it's hard to read though :-) |
| 23:47:42 | captain_proton | its fun to ssh davidtrowbridge@bzflag.org =) |
| 23:48:00 | Chestal | oh, it has fucati:5157? |
| 23:48:05 | Chestal | 5157 is 1.8, hmm |
| 23:48:17 | Chestal | is http://166.70.15.250:5156/ up to date? |
| 23:48:21 | yz | Chestal, not really hard. it's plain text. :} |
| 23:48:54 | Chestal | yz: well, yes but you cannot easily see how many players are on a server etc. It might well be an odl list, but some servers will work |
| 23:49:05 | yz | ok. |
| 23:49:06 | Chestal | I recommend ducati.bzflag.org 5155 or 5156 :-) |
| 23:49:12 | yz | ok. :) |
| 23:49:40 | captain_proton | ok - i *think* i fixed it |
| 23:49:42 | captain_proton | not sure though |
| 23:50:15 | Chestal | fixed only this team or fixed the bug? |
| 23:50:20 | crash | well gotta run, bye guys :) |
| 23:50:21 | captain_proton | fixed the bug |
| 23:50:23 | Widget | Chestal: Shameless plug? |
| 23:50:30 | captain_proton | and i changed the db to fix all the new teams that had the problem |
| 23:51:08 | Chestal | fine! |
| 23:51:31 | captain_proton | haha |
| 23:51:57 | captain_proton | checks to see if his /. comment got modded up any further |
| 23:52:17 | Chestal | modded? |
| 23:52:22 | captain_proton | nope |
| 23:52:26 | captain_proton | still at 3:informative |
| 23:52:32 | captain_proton | moderated up |
| 23:52:37 | Chestal | I haven'T read the whole thing yet |
| 23:52:45 | captain_proton | most of the comments are useless |
| 23:52:52 | Chestal | I never quite grasped the comments index |
| 23:53:02 | Widget | Ah, Slashdot. The "other site". |
| 23:53:13 | Widget | Someone should write an article for Kuro5hin about BZFlag. |
| 23:53:28 | captain_proton | i normally hate /. but they gave us loads of new players |
| 23:53:49 | Widget | Many new players are good. Loads are bad. |
| 23:53:59 | Chestal | I put the bugfix in the News section, so peopel see there is stil activity |
| 23:54:02 | Widget | Who submitted the /. story anyway? |
| 23:54:25 | captain_proton | dunno - the post was really a link to a review of the game |
| 23:54:31 | Chestal | I could see no difference in numer of players on ducati |
| 23:54:40 | captain_proton | haha Chestal |
| 23:54:49 | captain_proton | most of the new people were on US servers |
| 23:54:58 | captain_proton | mine were hopping |
| 23:55:05 | Chestal | yes, and newsbies will join the fullest servers first |
| 23:55:22 | Widget | A rogue is either an expert or a newbie. |
| 23:55:30 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 23:55:33 | Widget | An expert because they feel they don't need a team.... |
| 23:55:40 | Widget | Or a newbie because they don't know how to change teams. |
| 23:56:04 | captain_proton | when i first signed on yesterday i joined the top server |
| 23:56:07 | captain_proton | baaad idea |
| 23:56:14 | T-34 | or a newbie cause they think it's a bigger team |
| 23:56:16 | Widget | captain_proton: Jaycee's? |
| 23:56:29 | Widget | T-34: Hah! |
| 23:56:30 | captain_proton | whatever was at the top |
| 23:56:38 | captain_proton | 38/40 people |
| 23:56:55 | Chestal | bzflag cannot really handle 40 peopel withotu lag I think |
| 23:57:09 | captain_proton | actually lag wasn't out of the ordinary |
| 23:57:14 | captain_proton | not for me anyway =) |
| 23:57:17 | Chestal | with 40 active players you would have 25 times the number of messages sent as compared to 8 players |
| 23:57:22 | captain_proton | true |
| 23:57:28 | captain_proton | but there was nobody on dialup |
| 23:57:42 | captain_proton | i think the server might have had lagkick |
| 23:57:58 | Chestal | it would exceed the bandwidth of the server's upstream if t were active players |
| 23:58:11 | Chestal | you coudl expect peaks as high as 25000 msgs/s |
| 23:58:29 | yz | mm.. |
| 23:58:31 | yz | funny game. |
| 23:58:42 | yz | a bit steep learning c..something. |
| 23:58:44 | Chestal | but I guess many players are not pushing their mouse as wildly as we are |
| 23:58:46 | yz | courve. |
| 23:58:52 | captain_proton | Chestal: true |
| 23:59:06 | captain_proton | Chestal: i would guess that 36 of them were newbies |
| 23:59:13 | Chestal | yz: if you want an easy game: start a local server, and do bzfag -solo 3 or something |
| 23:59:22 | Widget | What does -solo do? |
| 23:59:23 | Chestal | yz: you'll get 3 very dumb bots to shoot at :-) |
| 23:59:27 | yz | haha :) |
| 23:59:32 | Widget | Hm.... cool. |
| 23:59:35 | yz | nice. |
| 23:59:42 | Widget | Do the bots shoot at you? |
| 23:59:49 | Chestal | but don't join servers when using -solo |
| 23:59:52 | Chestal | Widget: yes |