| 00:35:29 | Harlekin | oh ein Chestal |
| 01:19:39 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 05:50:28) |
| 01:35:15 | iLLf8d | hey guys |
| 01:35:20 | iLLf8d | what about load ballance for ctf? |
| 01:35:24 | iLLf8d | in 1.8 |
| 01:35:37 | iLLf8d | ie if teams != even let the person on paused .... |
| 01:35:45 | iLLf8d | till even then unpause |
| 03:08:12 | BZFlag | hacks up the wiki display. |
| 03:08:28 | BZFlag | someone on windows try it? http://www.BZFlag.org/wiki/ |
| 03:13:54 | BZFlag | later |
| 03:47:38 | captain_proton | GRRRRRRRRRR |
| 03:48:24 | MrApathyCream | Mcguyver in a pickle? |
| 03:48:37 | captain_proton | no |
| 03:48:48 | captain_proton | my lab partner and I spent 3 hours trying to get some code to work |
| 03:49:00 | captain_proton | we then decided to rewrite it with a different method and it took 15 minutes |
| 03:49:59 | MrApathyCream | lab partner, code, what kind of rubbish that? Programming is for socially challenged individuals drawn to poorly lit spaces, what are the schools of today teaching? |
| 03:50:18 | captain_proton | it was a stupid assignment |
| 03:50:34 | captain_proton | writing characters to a dumb terminal using a D/A converter |
| 03:50:41 | captain_proton | there's a reason they make serial porta |
| 03:50:42 | captain_proton | ports* |
| 03:51:10 | MrApathyCream | ah, an ee assignment, phew, makes sense now |
| 03:54:33 | | Who! |
| 03:54:33 | MrApathyCream | ibot, who's on first? |
| 03:55:07 | | mrapathycream: i haven't a clue |
| 03:55:07 | MrApathyCream | ibot who is macguyver? |
| 03:56:08 | MrApathyCream | nice topic, btw |
| 03:58:41 | captain_proton | well |
| 03:58:46 | captain_proton | for some reason the topic got erased |
| 03:58:52 | captain_proton | and i thought it was appropriate |
| 05:21:27 | Chestal | good mordning |
| 05:28:40 | scanline | is back (gone 11:42:36) |
| 05:40:08 | Chestal | oh, yet another team |
| 05:45:24 | captain_proton | mornin' Chestal |
| 05:51:10 | Chestal | well, off to the coalmines, as MrApathyCream would say |
| 05:52:11 | captain_proton | Chestal: when are you gonna email me the rating stuff? |
| 06:13:27 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:21:39 | Chestal | is at the office now |
| 06:21:48 | Chestal | captain: later that day, probablynot before you go to bed |
| 06:22:01 | Chestal | is going to spend 2 boring hours now |
| 06:36:14 | scanline | makes a fresh buildroot... and watches his Athlon melt down |
| 06:36:25 | captain_proton | ooo |
| 06:36:54 | vogon_jeltz | hell, running a HLT loop makes Athlons melt. |
| 06:37:04 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:38:30 | captain_proton | how exactly do you loop a HLT? |
| 06:38:48 | vogon_jeltz | very carefully. |
| 06:39:27 | captain_proton | i see |
| 06:41:15 | scanline | ha |
| 06:43:06 | captain_proton | linear algebra sucks |
| 06:43:49 | captain_proton | let me rephrase |
| 06:43:51 | captain_proton | matlab sucks |
| 06:43:56 | vogon_jeltz | so true. |
| 06:51:20 | captain_proton | its all the commutative property |
| 06:51:26 | captain_proton | software sucks -> class sucks -> topic sucks |
| 06:51:58 | captain_proton | the existance of two implies the third |
| 06:53:01 | MrApathyCream | on time, on spec, on budget, pick any two |
| 06:54:20 | captain_proton | in this case i have 2 days to write a seach engine in matlab |
| 06:54:26 | captain_proton | grrrr |
| 06:54:26 | captain_proton | no budget |
| 07:14:23 | captain_proton | function result = search(tdmatrix, query, tolerance) |
| 08:46:27 | captain_proton | woohoo |
| 08:46:31 | captain_proton | i have a working search engine |
| 09:16:43 | captain_proton | wb scanline |
| 09:16:56 | scanline | thanks... nvidia killed my x server |
| 09:17:05 | scanline | and the rest of the system :( |
| 09:17:08 | captain_proton | eww |
| 09:17:18 | captain_proton | i had that happen with the latest drivers so i reverted =) |
| 09:17:55 | captain_proton | what exactly is the purpose of the 'software UART' program in components? it seems silly to me |
| 09:19:47 | scanline | it is |
| 09:20:14 | captain_proton | i kinda wish my old design for it had worked |
| 09:20:20 | captain_proton | it was non-blocking between bits =) |
| 09:20:42 | scanline | you spend too much time on that class |
| 09:21:56 | captain_proton | not really |
| 09:21:57 | scanline | of course my final project was probably a little extravagant.. but it only took 4 hours to write |
| 09:22:02 | captain_proton | what did you do? |
| 09:22:35 | scanline | it was a breakout game, with lots of special effects- everything was 'flaming', the bricks glowed, text would wiggle in a sinusoid pattern... |
| 09:22:49 | scanline | i hate BGI, so i wanted an excuse to play with Mode 13h :) |
| 09:23:27 | captain_proton | mode 13h for components?? |
| 09:23:37 | scanline | why not? |
| 09:25:04 | scanline | BGI is too slow to do a 3-pixel average on every pixel of the screen every frame on a Pentium 75 or whatever those are |
| 09:25:27 | scanline | i did the text rendering by grabbing a snapshot of the BIOS font |
| 09:25:53 | scanline | didn't need real complex graphics.. just bitblit, rectangle fill, and a blur routine for the flame |
| 09:26:20 | scanline | i probably have a copy of it around here somewhere... |
| 09:28:02 | captain_proton | also: i don't spend too much time on it - my professor is harder than yours |
| 09:28:43 | scanline | i was just giving you a hard time.. I'd rather you learn ARM assembler than hack on x86 ;) |
| 09:28:55 | captain_proton | haha |
| 09:28:58 | scanline | i need to learn ARM assembler... |
| 09:29:06 | captain_proton | next i'm going to learn ia64 |
| 09:29:29 | scanline | going to use the ia64 machines in sourceforge's compile farm? |
| 09:29:55 | captain_proton | maybe - also dan connors has about 10 of them sitting in a lab doing nothing |
| 09:30:17 | scanline | wow |
| 09:30:43 | captain_proton | he's a cool guy |
| 09:30:49 | scanline | professor? |
| 09:30:56 | captain_proton | yep |
| 09:31:10 | captain_proton | he gave a few guest lectures while waite was off in africa |
| 09:31:48 | captain_proton | well, i'm gonna get some sleep |
| 09:31:56 | scanline | g'night |
| 09:32:04 | captain_proton | Chestal: in case you don't have it - jupiter at babylonia dot flatirons dot org |
| 09:32:07 | captain_proton | 'nite |
| 09:33:05 | Chestal | ok, good night |
| 15:25:53 | CobraA1 | Hello? |
| 15:29:34 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 15:29:46 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:12) |
| 15:29:46 | Chestal | hi Cobra |
| 15:30:54 | CobraA1 | Working on getting Debian |
| 15:31:33 | Chestal | I'm woking on server patches for better tournament support, only little ones |
| 15:32:22 | CobraA1 | Once I get it, I'll want to know how to tell CVS I want to work on 1.8. |
| 15:32:50 | Chestal | 1.8 should be the default |
| 15:33:09 | Chestal | you'll have to tel it to use 1.7 explicitly |
| 15:33:18 | CobraA1 | k. So, what's changed so far from 1.7? |
| 15:33:52 | Chestal | mainly the whole UI / rendering |
| 15:34:03 | Chestal | chris did a major overhaul of this, not finished, though |
| 15:34:24 | Chestal | UI is configurable by changign XML files |
| 15:34:41 | CobraA1 | Does it look different, or are most of the changes "under the hood"? |
| 15:34:49 | Chestal | both |
| 15:34:59 | Chestal | 3D is now full screen |
| 15:35:10 | Chestal | with radar blended in |
| 15:35:17 | Chestal | this is configurable, however |
| 15:35:34 | Chestal | some things are still missing, like OO effect etc. |
| 15:35:53 | Chestal | game now has a consoel, where you can set variables |
| 15:36:30 | Chestal | some chnages have been made to the protocol |
| 15:36:38 | Chestal | not that many, howver |
| 15:36:52 | CobraA1 | In the ezboard forums, people want to have a GUI for configurung the server. |
| 15:36:55 | Chestal | Tim is working on new network code, butit's not in CVS yet |
| 15:37:00 | Chestal | yes, I read that |
| 15:37:04 | Chestal | and I think it's a good idea |
| 15:37:20 | Chestal | there are plans to use a config file for server options in 1.8 anyway |
| 15:37:32 | Chestal | 1.8 server will probably have many new options |
| 15:37:57 | Chestal | so I think a GUI for editing the config file would be nice |
| 15:38:47 | CobraA1 | You say the GUI is using XML - know where I can get information about XML? |
| 15:39:31 | Chestal | I don't know, it's fairly easy to understand, though a bit hard to read IMHO |
| 15:40:24 | Chestal | e.g. a lien of the config file now reads: |
| 15:40:25 | Chestal | <command>bind "1" down "set displayRadarRange 0.25"</command> |
| 15:40:55 | Chestal | you coudl also chage that variable interactively in the game console |
| 15:41:22 | Chestal | we also have a long TODO list and updated protocols.txt and ideas in karma.txt |
| 15:41:28 | Chestal | lots of things to do :-) |
| 15:42:12 | CobraA1 | That's why I'm going to try to get Debian - I'd like to be involved :-). |
| 15:42:40 | CobraA1 | The more people working on it, the better I say. |
| 15:42:41 | Chestal | yep, that would be great |
| 15:43:12 | Chestal | I haven't done anything withit lately, busy with other things, for example the league stuff |
| 15:43:45 | Chestal | and 1.8 curently is hard to use for me at work here, because currently it sucks with software rendering |
| 15:44:20 | CobraA1 | I'm gonna look at the code on SouceForge for now, so I have a good idea what I'll be doing when I get Debian. |
| 15:45:13 | Chestal | yep, and make sure to read TODO, doc/protocol.txt and doc/karma.txt and maybe doc/crs-plans |
| 15:45:47 | Chestal | I finalyl got my editor configured to use a style that is close to the oen crs proposes for bzflag |
| 15:45:54 | CobraA1 | k. Software rendering is one of OpenGL's weak points. |
| 15:45:54 | Chestal | I still hate those tabs :-) |
| 15:46:05 | CobraA1 | Got a screenshot? |
| 15:46:17 | Chestal | hmm, not that I know of |
| 15:46:48 | Chestal | 1.7 has some code which can sped up software rendering |
| 15:46:50 | CobraA1 | Tabs? |
| 15:47:02 | Chestal | source code is indented with tabs |
| 15:47:10 | Chestal | and tabs = 4 blanks |
| 15:47:53 | CobraA1 | oh |
| 15:48:08 | Chestal | it has always been this way |
| 15:48:21 | Chestal | but 1.8 is nearly consistent now |
| 15:48:52 | CobraA1 | :-) |
| 15:53:35 | CobraA1 | Looked at TODO |
| 15:54:38 | CobraA1 | Robot API + inter-server teloporters = possible single-player mode? |
| 15:55:47 | Chestal | I find the idea of inter-server-teleporters quite strange |
| 15:56:19 | CobraA1 | yes . . . |
| 15:57:06 | Chestal | well, these are just ideas, not all of them will make it into 1.8 |
| 15:57:33 | CobraA1 | true. Like my IdeaS page on the wiki? |
| 15:58:22 | CobraA1 | It needs reformatting and revision badly . . . the wiki stopped allowing HTML. |
| 15:59:09 | Chestal | kinda like it, but probably filled with fewer wild ideas |
| 15:59:29 | CobraA1 | true |
| 16:00:00 | Chestal | doyoulaready have CVS write access? |
| 16:01:40 | Chestal | hacks bad things into bzfs |
| 16:01:59 | CobraA1 | no, I'm looking at it through SourceForge - I won't have write access until I have Debian |
| 16:02:53 | Chestal | I know, but are you allowed to check in files? |
| 16:04:47 | CobraA1 | no |
| 16:07:27 | Chestal | heh, I just captured a rogue flag in CTF - somethign is wrong here |
| 16:10:20 | CobraA1 | LOL |
| 16:14:12 | CobraA1 | Everything' |
| 16:14:26 | CobraA1 | Everything's changed . . . |
| 16:16:59 | scanline | is away: C++ for dummies |
| 16:20:20 | CobraA1 | I have to go |
| 16:45:46 | scanline | is back (gone 00:28:46) |
| 16:55:51 | captain_proton | returns |
| 16:56:23 | Chestal | hi capt |
| 16:56:36 | captain_proton | hello |
| 16:57:00 | captain_proton | got your email - looking at it now |
| 16:58:20 | captain_proton | i think we should implement it based only on team score for now but think about integrating player scores |
| 16:58:28 | captain_proton | captured a rogue flag?!?!?! |
| 17:00:05 | captain_proton | Player("Chestal",4) <-- you're oh-so-strong ;) |
| 17:08:01 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 17:08:11 | captain_proton | i'm very curious who the froot loops are |
| 17:09:44 | rlundy | proton do you know if the serverlist is down or something? |
| 17:10:07 | captain_proton | let me check |
| 17:10:13 | rlundy | cos bzflag wont detect the serverlist |
| 17:10:22 | captain_proton | works for me |
| 17:10:26 | captain_proton | try bzflag -list default |
| 17:10:40 | rlundy | =/ I'm on win32 right now |
| 17:13:36 | rlundy | but it still doesnt work on win32 heh |
| 17:13:52 | rlundy | (I'm also running on 0 hours sleep so forgive my... slowness) |
| 17:54:42 | Chestal | has some strong ideas about the identities of the loops |
| 17:54:52 | captain_proton | oh? |
| 17:54:53 | captain_proton | who? |
| 17:55:18 | Chestal | I have secret information, not sure if it's fair to tell |
| 17:55:29 | captain_proton | how can it not be fair? ;) |
| 17:55:42 | Chestal | I am not sure who is who |
| 17:55:55 | Chestal | but I guess, it's at lest Mr. Ass + Capn |
| 17:56:15 | captain_proton | hmm yeah hadn't thought of CapN |
| 17:56:30 | Chestal | I'm very positive about Mr. Ass |
| 17:56:38 | Chestal | because he changed his callsign |
| 17:56:53 | captain_proton | i group messaged them =) |
| 17:57:13 | Chestal | I hope m0nkey took no offense on ducati? because he left so suddenly |
| 17:57:30 | captain_proton | probably his boss walked by or something |
| 17:57:33 | Chestal | I messages the team founder the day the team was creates |
| 17:57:46 | Chestal | he said they would keep their secret callsigns for now |
| 17:58:08 | Chestal | capt: about the rating: I think using only team score is best |
| 17:58:16 | captain_proton | i messaged them saying they shall be unmasked :) |
| 17:58:26 | Chestal | capt: but I thoght about using the team score itself, not only win/draw/loss |
| 17:58:46 | Chestal | I'm missing Gerbil |
| 17:58:51 | Chestal | he didn't reister yet |
| 17:59:01 | captain_proton | no - he claims he has yet to figure it out |
| 17:59:08 | captain_proton | could be he's a froot loop? |
| 17:59:11 | Chestal | I read that, but I wonder what's so togh about registering? ;-) |
| 17:59:24 | Chestal | I don't think so, but you never know |
| 17:59:50 | Chestal | thought he would create a zoo team |
| 17:59:52 | captain_proton | i love the poem in the text for the froot loops |
| 18:00:00 | captain_proton | well - gerbil |
| 18:00:15 | Chestal | with all this annoying lag, I slowly come to think that maybe server-side shot hit detection is the way to go |
| 18:00:18 | Chestal | although it's not so easy to do |
| 18:00:27 | captain_proton | gerbil's "rats" 1/2 team joined with another 1/2 team |
| 18:00:48 | Chestal | yes, I read about the half teams, but didn't understand it!? |
| 18:01:18 | Chestal | hmm, is the clien tdead reckoning code doing any collision detection? |
| 18:01:27 | captain_proton | i'm not sure |
| 18:01:29 | captain_proton | i don't think so |
| 18:01:37 | Chestal | I was wondering |
| 18:01:44 | Chestal | if a tank drives full speed towards a wall |
| 18:01:59 | Chestal | and let;s say we have 0.5s delay |
| 18:02:15 | Chestal | hmm, let me think, this is confusing me :-) |
| 18:02:43 | Chestal | hmm, I guess with a stable lag this is no problem |
| 18:03:09 | Chestal | otherwise it would look liek the tank drives through the wall |
| 18:03:28 | captain_proton | do you know if the 'score' field in the team table is where we store the rating? |
| 18:03:34 | Chestal | for server-side shot/tank collision detection the server would need to do dead reckoning of course |
| 18:03:41 | Chestal | and the hit detection for all players |
| 18:03:57 | Chestal | ehm, which sdcore field? |
| 18:04:12 | captain_proton | in the l_team table there's a score field |
| 18:04:13 | Chestal | in Valoches tables? I don't know a thing about those |
| 18:04:29 | Chestal | I guess it's better to do a seperate table for the ratings |
| 18:04:37 | Chestal | so it would be decoupled |
| 18:04:47 | Chestal | we might want to have different ratings |
| 18:05:03 | Chestal | and maybe keep a league score which is different from the rating |
| 18:05:42 | Chestal | have you read the postings about the open source league thingy? |
| 18:06:38 | Chestal | I did some evil patches to my patchy server |
| 18:06:53 | Chestal | I can now start countdown for timed games when I want to |
| 18:06:56 | captain_proton | Chestal: a little |
| 18:07:02 | Chestal | and team scores, flags and tanks will be reset |
| 18:07:05 | captain_proton | ooo thats a cool feature Chestal |
| 18:07:15 | Chestal | but it's a biiig hack |
| 18:07:21 | captain_proton | i bet |
| 18:07:23 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 18:07:29 | captain_proton | the score field is 0 for all teams |
| 18:07:30 | Chestal | becuase I want it to work withotu client changes |
| 18:07:42 | captain_proton | perhaps we should just use it? ;) |
| 18:08:00 | Chestal | he probably just created the score field without thinking too much about it |
| 18:08:16 | Chestal | we could use it for now, but I still think a separate table would be the better solution |
| 18:08:59 | captain_proton | ok i set the score to 1200 for everyone =) |
| 18:09:04 | Chestal | should we have a table storing the resultsof all matches? team a, team b, result, date? |
| 18:09:05 | captain_proton | every team that is |
| 18:09:38 | Chestal | keeping the rsults is not necessary for the rating system, but I guess it would be a good idea anyway |
| 18:09:52 | Chestal | can you set the moles to 2000? ;-) |
| 18:10:21 | captain_proton | oh no... |
| 18:11:00 | captain_proton | i don't have write access to the league pages |
| 18:11:01 | Chestal | the ultimate lag team still hasn't changed their callsigns |
| 18:11:12 | Chestal | oh |
| 18:11:24 | captain_proton | this is bad |
| 18:11:34 | Chestal | we'll have to hack into the sf server then |
| 18:12:06 | captain_proton | odd |
| 18:12:15 | captain_proton | i have write access to the directory, which is g+s |
| 18:12:22 | captain_proton | but i can't chmod g+w the league directory |
| 18:12:24 | Chestal | hmm, do you have write access to the directory? |
| 18:12:47 | captain_proton | i have write access to htdocs, not to htdocs/league |
| 18:13:03 | Chestal | ehm |
| 18:13:29 | captain_proton | drwxr-sr-x 3 valoche bzflag 4096 Mar 27 09:07 league |
| 18:13:46 | Chestal | and htdocs looks like? |
| 18:13:56 | captain_proton | htdocs is the webroot for bzflag.org |
| 18:14:05 | captain_proton | drwxrwsr-x 8 timriker bzflag 4096 Apr 2 10:11 . |
| 18:14:07 | Chestal | you're in group bzflag? |
| 18:14:48 | Chestal | I am not quite sure |
| 18:14:59 | Chestal | is it possible that only the owner of a file may change it's permissions? |
| 18:15:12 | Chestal | actualy, thinking about it, I am sure this is so |
| 18:15:28 | Chestal | you could do mv league old; cp -r old league ? |
| 18:15:38 | captain_proton | yeah i think so |
| 18:15:40 | captain_proton | lemme try |
| 18:15:59 | captain_proton | yep =) |
| 18:16:26 | Chestal | yesterday I moved a diretory to a different partition to get soem free Gigs; du -sh dir showed about 10GB |
| 18:16:53 | Chestal | after mv finished, I had only about 500MB free space; I didn't see that the dir was full of hardlinks :-| |
| 18:16:57 | captain_proton | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 18:16:57 | captain_proton | /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 |
| 18:16:57 | captain_proton | 53G 48G 2.8G 95% / |
| 18:17:05 | captain_proton | and thats just on my / partition =| |
| 18:17:10 | captain_proton | i have too much data |
| 18:17:20 | captain_proton | i'm gonna go to lunch |
| 18:17:28 | captain_proton | i'll get started on the rating system when I return |
| 18:19:14 | Chestal | oh, meq got a fifth player? |
| 18:19:39 | Chestal | ok, fine, I think I'll drive home and eat something, too |
| 18:19:52 | Chestal | let's see how long I make it today after only 3.5 hours of sleep |
| 18:43:18 | captain_proton | still here? |
| 18:46:46 | captain_proton | Chestal: wake up! |
| 18:50:19 | scanline | is away: circuits lab |
| 19:15:00 | captain_proton | muses |
| 19:26:47 | captain_proton | kicks Chestal |
| 19:59:35 | captain_proton | w00t! |
| 19:59:45 | captain_proton | | 3 | meq | fear | 5 | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/meq.jpg | closed | 1225 | Rnbxu/AzkAQmA | no | |
| 19:59:48 | captain_proton | it works! |
| 20:16:48 | captain_proton | ratings are built in |
| 20:16:53 | captain_proton | admins can enter match results |
| 20:30:01 | scanline | is back (gone 01:39:42) |
| 20:45:46 | captain_proton | ROFL |
| 20:45:59 | captain_proton | one of my buddies over in AO is pretending to be carolyn meinel |
| 20:46:14 | captain_proton | and people actually believe its her |
| 21:29:10 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZz.... |
| 21:44:46 | captain_proton | wake up Chestal |
| 22:03:38 | Chestal | re |
| 22:22:47 | captain_proton | hello =) |
| 22:22:56 | captain_proton | checked out the rating system? ;) |
| 22:23:58 | Chestal | wel, kind of. I didn't dare to enter a match result |
| 22:24:21 | captain_proton | go ahead - i'll reset the scores |
| 22:24:34 | Chestal | would eb great if we had a simple table with all teams sorted by rating |
| 22:24:47 | Chestal | I think we shoudl also coutn the numer of matches for each team |
| 22:25:31 | Chestal | ok, I'm playing with it |
| 22:25:32 | captain_proton | we can use a new table that just stores match results (preferably with ALL scores in it, so we can do a different rating system if we choose so) |
| 22:26:54 | Chestal | yep, we definitely need a table with match history |
| 22:27:39 | captain_proton | i'm gonna implement yahoo-ish 'colored dots' for the ranks |
| 22:27:42 | captain_proton | to make it prettier =) |
| 22:30:41 | Chestal | when I forget to select one of win/draw/loss is it counted as a loss? |
| 22:31:20 | captain_proton | i'm not sure |
| 22:31:30 | captain_proton | lemme make it so one of them is auto-selected |
| 22:33:14 | Chestal | it would be great if old and new ratings were shown after I entered a result |
| 22:33:48 | captain_proton | i could probably manage that |
| 22:35:18 | Chestal | I am sure you can do it, I believe in you :-) |
| 22:35:32 | captain_proton | it now shows the pretty rating on the individual team page |
| 22:35:44 | captain_proton | one more minute to do it in the team list |
| 22:36:19 | captain_proton | there we go |
| 22:36:24 | captain_proton | beautiful =) |
| 22:39:00 | captain_proton | there we go |
| 22:39:11 | captain_proton | its got team a won selected by default |
| 22:39:15 | captain_proton | so you can't help but choose one |
| 22:39:34 | Chestal | yep, just noticed it |
| 22:40:25 | captain_proton | looks like everything works right |
| 22:41:29 | captain_proton | this is gonna be soooo cool =) |
| 22:41:53 | Chestal | yep, looks good |
| 22:46:22 | captain_proton | now it shows the old/new ratings when you enter a match |
| 22:46:36 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:47:01 | captain_proton | ok yeah |
| 22:47:25 | captain_proton | shall i reset the scores? |
| 22:47:32 | captain_proton | or would you like to play for a while longer? |
| 22:47:44 | Chestal | it does indeed - only lokks liek crap :_) |
| 22:48:00 | captain_proton | how would you like me to do it? table? |
| 22:48:20 | Chestal | hmm, I don't know. Make it look good |
| 22:48:39 | Chestal | maybe different colours for old and new score or somethign liek that |
| 22:48:46 | Chestal | doesn't have to be too fancy for now |
| 22:49:26 | captain_proton | there ya go |
| 22:49:37 | captain_proton | pretty =) |
| 22:49:47 | captain_proton | i guess i could have it do the colored dots too |
| 22:50:06 | Chestal | how about a table or pseudo table |
| 22:50:09 | Chestal | A old new |
| 22:50:13 | Chestal | B old new |
| 22:50:59 | Chestal | oh no, arathorn joined the SPanish team |
| 22:52:13 | captain_proton | there we go |
| 22:52:14 | captain_proton | thats bad/ |
| 22:52:15 | captain_proton | ? |
| 22:53:52 | captain_proton | this league site is getting really nice =) |
| 22:54:22 | umm | is capn or badass playing in the tournament? |
| 22:54:59 | captain_proton | we think so |
| 22:55:06 | captain_proton | probably |
| 22:55:25 | Chestal | capt: well, arathorn is one of those peopel regularly having >1s of lag |
| 22:55:42 | umm | weren't both of them on the list but left? |
| 22:55:44 | captain_proton | oh yuck |
| 22:56:15 | captain_proton | so - Chestal: done playing? |
| 22:56:29 | Chestal | yep, for now |
| 22:56:56 | Chestal | umm: I guess they're stil there in disguise |
| 22:57:05 | captain_proton | ok its back at 1200 |
| 22:57:11 | umm | hmm |
| 22:57:37 | umm | i thought elmo was a pretty good disguise :) |
| 22:59:52 | Chestal | elmo or bzelmo? they got me confused |
| 23:01:16 | Chestal | oh, Texas joined the Zees, I didn't notice that |
| 23:02:15 | umm | bz elmo had a picture of elmo that at one point was under badass |
| 23:02:28 | vogon_jeltz | yup, elmo's a real badass. |
| 23:02:38 | umm | capn once used elmo months ago |
| 23:02:43 | vogon_jeltz | "Can you spell 'fishie', bitch?" |
| 23:02:49 | umm | probably him |
| 23:03:45 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: check out the pretty rating system =) |
| 23:04:16 | vogon_jeltz | w4r3z t3h w4r3z? |
| 23:04:24 | captain_proton | lol |
| 23:04:24 | captain_proton | bzflag.org/league |
| 23:05:02 | vogon_jeltz | nice. |
| 23:05:38 | Chestal | I have major lag on RC |
| 23:05:44 | captain_proton | rc? |
| 23:05:44 | Chestal | IRC |
| 23:05:52 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 23:07:32 | Chestal | I will go to bed in 10 minutes, juts waitign for the CD to finish |
| 23:08:24 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 23:08:34 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 23:08:45 | umm | at home Ches, cool :) |
| 23:09:10 | Chestal | woah, this la gis irritating |
| 23:09:21 | Chestal | umm: hmm, ehm, who are you, btw? |
| 23:10:10 | umm | i have to go, bye guys, just wanted a little visit :) |
| 23:10:18 | captain_proton | Chestal: can you send me your bzfs.cxx ? |
| 23:10:31 | captain_proton | and maybe the command line for ducati:5156 ? |
| 23:10:38 | Chestal | captain: again? :-) it's getting uglier and uglier |
| 23:10:53 | captain_proton | Chestal: yeah - since thats the server we'll be using for the league |
| 23:11:03 | captain_proton | would like to host a US server |
| 23:11:07 | Chestal | ok, you'll get the newest version with secret /gamereset support |
| 23:11:17 | Chestal | ok, hold on |
| 23:18:14 | Chestal | just got an email and is still tryin gto figure out whether it is SPAM or not |
| 23:19:16 | captain_proton | um Chestal- what do you teach? |
| 23:21:01 | Chestal | captain_proton: it varies,, I'll do the exercises for computer networks and an introduction to programming course (C++) next term |
| 23:21:21 | Chestal | actually, that reminds me, I have to work soem things out for ths |
| 23:25:23 | captain_proton | hi iLLf8d |
| 23:26:14 | iLLf8d | morning |
| 23:26:43 | captain_proton | morning? where are you?? |
| 23:26:59 | iLLf8d | --- Ping reply from iLLf8d : 47.19 second(s) |
| 23:27:00 | iLLf8d | thats where I am |
| 23:27:13 | captain_proton | lol |
| 23:27:15 | iLLf8d | oh up late last night |
| 23:27:26 | iLLf8d | didn't get to bed till like 6am |
| 23:27:32 | iLLf8d | was up killng this one fucker online |
| 23:28:00 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: ratings work =) |
| 23:28:05 | iLLf8d | the guy is a jerk so I go after him, he has a tendency to come online with 4 of his good friends and all come after me |
| 23:28:23 | iLLf8d | I hold my own usually 1up them but when he's alone I go after him with a vengance |
| 23:28:54 | iLLf8d | he's a real jerk too, loves to make fun of newbs and laughs at ppl and thinks everyone other then his shots are just luck =P |
| 23:29:05 | iLLf8d | so... |
| 23:29:10 | iLLf8d | good morning =) |
| 23:29:15 | iLLf8d | ratings? |
| 23:29:22 | captain_proton | check out the league page |
| 23:31:18 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 23:31:21 | iLLf8d | what am I seeing? |
| 23:31:23 | iLLf8d | or looking at |
| 23:31:30 | iLLf8d | just looks like everyones name is in a list now |
| 23:31:34 | captain_proton | at the teams list |
| 23:31:40 | captain_proton | each team has a rating (all equal now) |
| 23:32:04 | Chestal | ill: you're talking of me? ;-) |
| 23:32:13 | iLLf8d | oh IU gotcha |
| 23:32:21 | captain_proton | lol Chestal |
| 23:32:22 | iLLf8d | dudes y ou should seperate teams/players heh |
| 23:32:26 | iLLf8d | I thought it was one link |
| 23:32:27 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 23:32:45 | iLLf8d | its in one divider so I thought you just reformatted the page heh |
| 23:32:46 | Chestal | ok, off to bed for me, cu in 7-12 hours |
| 23:32:57 | captain_proton | nite nite Chestal |
| 23:32:59 | iLLf8d | you may also want to add in a link on the mainpage to the leauge |
| 23:33:06 | iLLf8d | looks great =) |
| 23:33:12 | iLLf8d | night chestal |
| 23:33:41 | iLLf8d | hey cap |
| 23:33:46 | captain_proton | hey ill |
| 23:33:49 | iLLf8d | lets figure out what we're doing team wise |
| 23:34:03 | iLLf8d | if we have to many ppl i'll team up with zdog and maybe a few others... |
| 23:34:15 | iLLf8d | just so ppl know who is/isn't available |
| 23:34:19 | iLLf8d | like gerbil for example |
| 23:34:20 | iLLf8d | etc... |
| 23:34:21 | captain_proton | what exactly do you mean? |
| 23:34:26 | captain_proton | gerbil's formed his own team for ctf |
| 23:34:31 | iLLf8d | if you look at the players page alot of lone players |
| 23:34:40 | iLLf8d | good players and a few friends |
| 23:34:42 | captain_proton | an adjunct meq :) |
| 23:34:46 | iLLf8d | would be nice if they got some teams outta it |
| 23:35:08 | iLLf8d | doesn't want anyone good to be left hanging |
| 23:35:09 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 23:35:24 | iLLf8d | people who put in the time deserve more then that |
| 23:35:33 | captain_proton | i think by the time of a tournament everybody will have a team |
| 23:36:26 | iLLf8d | its just not right heh =P |
| 23:36:36 | iLLf8d | theres also 5 people on our team now? |
| 23:36:39 | iLLf8d | whats up with that |
| 23:36:44 | captain_proton | what do you mean? |
| 23:37:53 | iLLf8d | someone said its 3 men teams |
| 23:38:05 | captain_proton | there will be 3 people at a time |
| 23:38:17 | captain_proton | in games if more than 3 want to play we'll swap out |
| 23:38:22 | iLLf8d | so you're gonna sit out while I play all game huh |
| 23:38:28 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 23:38:32 | iLLf8d | muwahahaha |
| 23:39:48 | iLLf8d | yeah will be nice if we field 2 teams hope I get on the one that beats the other half out heh |
| 23:39:57 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 23:40:06 | iLLf8d | like zdog is hanging there |
| 23:41:12 | captain_proton | yeah... |
| 23:41:18 | iLLf8d | would like to see othemark, martin, halo, quol, and alde on one team |
| 23:41:29 | iLLf8d | they're all of comparable skill level |
| 23:41:32 | captain_proton | alde will be with ult |
| 23:41:41 | iLLf8d | aldes up there already |
| 23:41:54 | iLLf8d | he's courturoi or whatver it is |
| 23:41:57 | iLLf8d | I think |
| 23:42:06 | iLLf8d | Cor_Tauri |
| 23:42:07 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 23:42:20 | iLLf8d | onthe and alde play together all the time |
| 23:42:27 | iLLf8d | why they didn't team up i'll never know |
| 23:42:39 | iLLf8d | no katos either |
| 23:42:58 | iLLf8d | and BiL's heh I mentioned it to aldaberta (the jerk) heh and he said what tournament |
| 23:43:16 | iLLf8d | so I gave him the link and said they should field a few hundred teams (jk) |
| 23:43:18 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 23:43:23 | iLLf8d | I said they should field a team |
| 23:43:25 | captain_proton | lol |
| 23:44:21 | iLLf8d | yeah we're gonna have to practice big time |
| 23:44:34 | iLLf8d | would like to make at least the top 5, tho top 3 would be nice |
| 23:44:46 | iLLf8d | and 1st would be killer |
| 23:45:06 | captain_proton | i'm gonna put up a ducati-style server in a few |
| 23:45:09 | captain_proton | (private) |
| 23:45:37 | iLLf8d | cool |
| 23:45:45 | iLLf8d | would be nice to have a practice time too |
| 23:46:09 | iLLf8d | even if its short |
| 23:46:27 | iLLf8d | like 15-20 min a day or even if its like 30 min a week even just to get ppl together |
| 23:46:38 | iLLf8d | considering it sounds like it'll be about 2 weeks till tourney |
| 23:46:56 | iLLf8d | 2-10 practices before tourney would be good |
| 23:47:02 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 23:47:10 | captain_proton | ... building the server now |
| 23:47:20 | iLLf8d | tactics too... |
| 23:47:49 | iLLf8d | ie should we take long field shots (I do that alot) and assume teamates will watch their radar |
| 23:48:01 | iLLf8d | ie cross field |
