| 00:21:12 | captain_proton | steps on MrApathyCream's toe |
| 00:22:19 | MrApathyCream | hops around like a kangaroo wearing a too tight speedo |
| 00:22:42 | vogon_jeltz | too-tight is hyphenated |
| 00:23:00 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:23:04 | MrApathyCream | yes, prof |
| 00:23:11 | captain_proton | lol |
| 00:26:08 | captain_proton | boooored |
| 00:26:23 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: dude, if you're that bored, I'll finish the SDL thing |
| 00:26:43 | captain_proton | =) |
| 00:28:02 | Chestal | re |
| 00:41:17 | BZFlag | well. rikers.org if broken for builds now. all you stinking c++ fans. ;-) |
| 00:41:26 | vogon_jeltz | hehehe |
| 00:41:31 | captain_proton | haha |
| 00:41:34 | vogon_jeltz | hey, I just work on the SDL crap |
| 00:41:44 | captain_proton | chuckles @ BZFlag's f0rked STL |
| 00:42:30 | BZFlag | likes small, fast, portable code instead. ;-) |
| 00:42:56 | BZFlag | /tmp/cca14169.s:268: Fatal error: String too big (5474 bytes) |
| 00:43:11 | captain_proton | hahahaha |
| 00:43:24 | captain_proton | chuckles @ BZFlag's f0rked assembler |
| 00:43:32 | vogon_jeltz | the STL does produce portable code, assuming your compiler doesn't suck major ass |
| 00:44:27 | BZFlag | and c# code is portable to all the one implementations of c# environments. |
| 00:44:44 | captain_proton | lol |
| 00:46:04 | BZFlag | bzflag currently runs on alpha, arm, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc linux. |
| 00:46:23 | BZFlag | morns the day when 1.8 is out and the list is pruned. |
| 00:46:40 | captain_proton | shouldn't be pruned too much |
| 00:46:41 | vogon_jeltz | <captain_proton> well, it runs on this box |
| 00:46:52 | vogon_jeltz | <captain_proton> and I think vogon got it to compile |
| 00:47:01 | captain_proton | time for release! |
| 00:47:50 | BZFlag | well I don't have any newer toolchains for mips. |
| 00:48:01 | BZFlag | well, at least not stable ones. |
| 00:48:12 | BZFlag | 1.7 was fine on gcc 2.7.2 |
| 00:48:27 | vogon_jeltz | screw mips |
| 00:48:35 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: uhh |
| 00:48:38 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 00:48:44 | vogon_jeltz | j/k |
| 00:48:46 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: -the- SGI game no longer running on SGIs? |
| 00:48:53 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I picked that up |
| 00:49:44 | Chestal | the gcc name manglign for templates sucks big way |
| 00:49:57 | captain_proton | name mangling for C++ sucks big |
| 00:49:58 | Chestal | in fact the integration of c++ into the standard unix linking scheme sucks big way |
| 00:50:20 | Chestal | but the best I ever saw with tempaltes was VC++ |
| 00:50:49 | Chestal | silly compiler spew out 1000s of warning about symbol names to long, and it were simple vector<int> and stuff liek that |
| 00:52:29 | captain_proton | goes to eat dinner |
| 00:56:30 | BZFlag | extrapolates that c++ templates suck. ;-) |
| 01:07:05 | breezy | wat up |
| 01:14:49 | captain_proton | returns |
| 01:29:54 | captain_proton | how goes SDL? ;) |
| 01:30:05 | captain_proton | i'm so bored... =| |
| 01:37:46 | captain_proton | This may not look threatening, but it can kill you in the blink of an eye. I'm assuming you blink over a period of two weeks and somebody spends that entire time making you eat this. |
| 01:38:01 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 01:49:37 | captain_proton | http://www.somethingawful.com/kitty/smog/index.htm <-- From the Bog, to the Smog! (for kids) |
| 01:49:46 | captain_proton | Man's journey of self-destruction |
| 01:50:46 | MrApathyCream | alright i'll bite |
| 01:51:25 | captain_proton | its a beautiful kid's comic |
| 01:51:38 | MrApathyCream | chips a tooth |
| 01:53:16 | Chestal | I want command recall, editing and tab completion in the console |
| 01:56:44 | Chestal | I changed the radar to look more like e2 radar does, haven't done too much testing on jumpign worlds. FOr non-jumpign I liek it much better this way |
| 01:57:36 | captain_proton | perhaps we could integrate readline into the console? |
| 02:06:17 | Chestal | hmm, a 'mult' command migh tocm ein handy |
| 02:07:00 | captain_proton | mult command? |
| 02:07:14 | Chestal | for multiplying a variable by a value |
| 02:07:21 | Chestal | would be nice for zoom in/out radar |
| 02:07:30 | captain_proton | you can just set the radar scale |
| 02:07:33 | Chestal | shoudl be farily easy to add |
| 02:07:43 | Chestal | but this woudl you let bind this to a key |
| 02:08:00 | captain_proton | ahh - two keys for zoom in and out? |
| 02:08:21 | Chestal | say > and > for stepless adusting |
| 02:08:23 | Chestal | yes |
| 02:09:05 | captain_proton | yeah - should be really simple |
| 02:09:17 | Chestal | well, I'll go to bed, 3:11 here |
| 02:09:28 | captain_proton | nite nite |
| 02:09:37 | vogon_jeltz | nn, Chestal |
| 02:15:22 | captain_proton | kicks vogon_jeltz |
| 02:15:24 | | hmmm... SDL is Look at http://www.libsdl.org |
| 02:15:24 | captain_proton | SDL? |
| 02:15:54 | vogon_jeltz | feh |
| 02:16:02 | captain_proton | kicks ibot |
| 02:53:23 | vogon_jeltz | is away: shower |
| 03:20:35 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:27:11) |
| 03:22:53 | vogon_jeltz | OK, I've finished the SDL stuff except for implementing one class composed entirely of one-liners |
| 03:23:04 | vogon_jeltz | and then I've gotta hack in support for resolution changing |
| 03:23:23 | vogon_jeltz | but I should have something that will run in an hour or two |
| 03:24:35 | captain_proton | god |
| 03:24:46 | captain_proton | my team on ducati CTF -SUCKED- |
| 03:24:49 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:25:00 | captain_proton | they couldn't understand the need to protect the flag |
| 03:25:14 | captain_proton | so the reds would march in and one guy would run with the flag and nobody but me would chase him |
| 03:25:15 | captain_proton | ARGH |
| 03:47:48 | captain_proton | ha |
| 04:12:47 | breezy | captain |
| 04:12:49 | breezy | you there |
| 04:12:51 | breezy | you there |
| 04:12:53 | breezy | you there |
| 04:12:54 | breezy | ? |
| 04:13:11 | captain_proton | somewhat |
| 04:13:15 | breezy | ok |
| 04:13:18 | breezy | what program should I write |
| 04:13:19 | breezy | im stuck |
| 04:13:22 | breezy | cant think of nothing |
| 04:13:29 | breezy | dont know what to write |
| 04:13:32 | breezy | what should I write? |
| 04:13:41 | captain_proton | hack up 1.7e4 (not e5) to add permanent and temporary bans =} |
| 04:13:53 | breezy | well |
| 04:13:58 | breezy | not a hack |
| 04:14:00 | breezy | just a program |
| 04:14:01 | breezy | think |
| 04:15:24 | breezy | captain? |
| 04:15:34 | captain_proton | uh |
| 04:15:42 | breezy | yeah |
| 04:15:44 | breezy | ;-) |
| 04:15:53 | captain_proton | write a version of reason for linux ;) |
| 04:16:00 | | well, reason is I incorporated a hack from Tangent that allows the WL100 wlan card to work with the driver by "pretending" its in 5v mode |
| 04:16:00 | breezy | reason? |
| 04:16:21 | captain_proton | its a mixdown program |
| 04:17:23 | captain_proton | http://www.propellerheads.se/products/reason/frame.html |
| 04:18:43 | breezy | brb |
| 05:45:07 | scanline | is back (gone 12:56:39) |
| 05:47:00 | captain_proton | wb |
| 05:51:09 | captain_proton | hey vogon |
| 05:51:19 | vogon_jeltz | yoyoyo |
| 05:52:37 | captain_proton | how goes SDL? |
| 05:52:50 | vogon_jeltz | I'm back from having dinner |
| 05:53:01 | vogon_jeltz | give me a few minutes before I get on the last class |
| 05:57:38 | captain_proton | <vogon_jeltz> but I should have something that will run in an hour or two |
| 05:57:41 | | bonjour, jacques |
| 05:57:41 | jacques | hi |
| 05:57:45 | captain_proton | that was over 2:30 ago ;) |
| 05:57:55 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: feh |
| 05:58:02 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: that was before I ate |
| 06:02:02 | captain_proton | STAR TREK TIME!!! |
| 06:03:55 | jacques | star trek? |
| 06:04:01 | jacques | like the original series? |
| 06:04:10 | captain_proton | i'm watching movie numbah 3 |
| 06:08:40 | captain_proton | wheeeeee! |
| 06:08:56 | captain_proton | the sound of a ship uncloaking is SWEET in my speaker system |
| 06:14:52 | jacques | why does it make a sound? |
| 06:14:55 | jacques | in space |
| 06:15:14 | vogon_jeltz | someone pointed out the easy way to tell sci-fi from science fantasy |
| 06:15:26 | vogon_jeltz | anything that depicts noise travelling through space is science fantasy |
| 06:15:57 | captain_proton | because a silent space battle makes for a boring movie |
| 06:16:33 | captain_proton | if they didn't go outside of the possibilities once in a while, the genre of sci-fi would suck |
| 06:16:50 | jacques | ic |
| 06:18:28 | MrApathyCream | why do explosions -explode out into space? |
| 06:18:45 | MrApathyCream | They should be implosions |
| 06:18:59 | captain_proton | because its not just structural failure causing the explosion |
| 06:20:12 | jacques | why would they be implosions? there is less pressure outside the ship than inside |
| 06:20:27 | captain_proton | that too |
| 06:21:48 | jacques | i wanna see a show where the ships dont maneuver in a 2d plane |
| 06:22:01 | captain_proton | andromeda =) |
| 06:22:07 | jacques | exactly :-) |
| 06:22:10 | jacques | i like andromea |
| 06:22:14 | jacques | andromeda |
| 06:22:45 | jacques | i always liked space: above and beyond too |
| 06:23:17 | captain_proton | never seen it |
| 06:23:39 | jacques | it was on sci-fi channel |
| 06:23:51 | jacques | lots of space combat |
| 06:24:09 | jacques | and a decent amount of surface combat too |
| 06:24:17 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:24:19 | captain_proton | looks on dalnet |
| 06:24:27 | jacques | heh |
| 06:24:41 | captain_proton | hehehehe |
| 06:24:57 | jacques | did you ever smart those lamers? |
| 06:25:08 | captain_proton | we couldn't find any hax0rs to smart |
| 06:25:16 | jacques | d'oh |
| 06:27:40 | jacques | dont lame me you lamer because I'm lamer than you |
| 06:27:52 | jacques | why does that remind me of the Smurfs? |
| 06:28:00 | jacques | didnt they have a word that they used for everything? |
| 06:28:17 | jacques | maybe it was smurf |
| 06:28:37 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:28:50 | captain_proton | there's a channel for it but only 2 chock-full file servers there |
| 06:29:41 | jacques | no way |
| 06:29:50 | jacques | channel for what? te smurfs? |
| 06:29:57 | Zorak | cartoon network? |
| 06:30:02 | captain_proton | space above and beyond |
| 06:30:07 | jacques | arg really?? |
| 06:30:15 | jacques | damn i need a big pipe!!! |
| 06:30:17 | Zorak | space is overrated |
| 06:30:19 | jacques | oh i forgot |
| 06:30:30 | jacques | you said they only dl at about 15kB/s anyway |
| 06:30:32 | Zorak | there's nothing out there |
| 06:30:42 | jacques | Zorak: that's what they want you to think |
| 06:30:57 | Zorak | jacques: I know, I'm there! |
| 06:31:06 | jacques | Zorak: :-D |
| 06:31:18 | jacques | captain_proton: how long are the queues? |
| 06:31:30 | Zorak | jacques: Crack a window! |
| 06:31:32 | jacques | captain_proton: also, I notice most groups want ppl to register their nick - why is that? |
| 06:31:33 | captain_proton | jacques: one is completey full and the other is 29 long |
| 06:31:43 | captain_proton | jacques: because dalnet is full of spammers |
| 06:31:43 | jacques | d'oh |
| 06:32:01 | Zorak | What net is this? no-net? |
| 06:32:09 | captain_proton | openprojects.net |
| 06:32:18 | jacques | opensplits.net |
| 06:32:31 | captain_proton | jacques: not yet |
| 06:32:39 | captain_proton | jacques: in a month it will be |
| 06:32:47 | Zorak | sounds dirty to me |
| 06:33:16 | jacques | captain_proton: you mean it'll get worse??? |
| 06:34:12 | captain_proton | jacques: no |
| 06:34:18 | captain_proton | jacques: the name will point here in a month |
| 06:34:33 | Zorak | opensplits is a dirty name |
| 06:34:49 | jacques | really? funny :-) |
| 06:34:57 | captain_proton | Zorak: nope |
| 06:35:09 | captain_proton | Zorak: its referring to netsplits |
| 06:35:21 | Zorak | captain_proton: Like in hooker pantyhose? |
| 06:35:25 | jacques | Zorak: you're thinking of openslits |
| 06:35:42 | jacques | i cant believe i just said that |
| 06:35:52 | captain_proton | lol |
| 06:36:06 | Zorak | jacques: And you can't take it back |
| 06:36:33 | Zorak | proton will put it in his famous log file |
| 06:36:47 | jacques | i just hope he puts in some context |
| 06:36:51 | captain_proton | famous log file? |
| 06:37:00 | Zorak | the one in the topic |
| 06:37:18 | captain_proton | thats riker's |
| 06:37:22 | captain_proton | and its done automatically |
| 06:37:36 | Zorak | Oh. but you set the topic |
| 06:38:31 | captain_proton | that doesn't mean i made up each of those fields |
| 06:39:10 | Zorak | Yeah. A mantis makes certain assumptions in his life. And he doesn't mate if he can't help it! |
| 07:00:56 | jacques | Timing, and style! True to the game awesome! Bring a change of clothes, its either the sweat, or the dirtying of your pants, during this visual paranoia machine. |
| 07:01:05 | jacques | hahahahaha |
| 07:01:51 | captain_proton | what? |
| 07:02:02 | jacques | that's someone's review of "resident evil" |
| 07:02:56 | Zorak | How do you dirty your pants? Because of milla jovovich? |
| 07:03:42 | jacques | from fright I would assume |
| 07:03:52 | jacques | tho everyone says she is HOT in this movie |
| 07:04:14 | Zorak | I ain't pooping my pants for that movie |
| 07:04:17 | jacques | she's purdy |
| 07:04:42 | jacques | I'll wait til the dvd is on sale for 9.99 at Fry's |
| 07:05:00 | Zorak | You can probably download it now for free. |
| 07:05:15 | jacques | hmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 07:06:27 | jacques | "We're trying to take it to a new audience," said Vicki McDonald, head of Britain's 2,000-strong Spam fan club. |
| 07:06:37 | jacques | Brits. |
| 07:07:00 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:07:24 | Zorak | McDonald is an Irish name |
| 07:07:28 | jacques | Spam's origins lie in Austin, Minnesota -- since renamed Spamtown -- where in 1937 J.C. Hormel spotted an opportunity to use beer canning technology to can ham. Spam was born. |
| 07:07:43 | jacques | how did he think of that? |
| 07:07:55 | jacques | hmmm, maybe I can can ham like beer? |
| 07:08:08 | Zorak | duh, he was drinking beer |
| 07:08:44 | jacques | he was drinking beer and he thought "I wish I was drinking ham?" |
| 07:08:59 | captain_proton | lol |
| 07:09:07 | Zorak | juicy ham |
| 07:09:27 | jacques | trivia question |
| 07:09:46 | jacques | how many time is the word spam uttered in the monty python skit |
| 07:09:50 | jacques | (not counting the song) |
| 07:11:21 | captain_proton | zorak seems really immature |
| 07:11:29 | jacques | heh |
| 07:11:52 | jacques | at least he wasnt spewing curse words like the 14 year old i was playing ctf with this morning |
| 07:11:59 | captain_proton | true |
| 07:12:33 | jacques | wb Zorak |
| 07:12:42 | Zorak | danke |
| 07:12:45 | jacques | i guess we have to sto ptalking about you now |
| 07:13:01 | Zorak | Yeah, my arms grow back |
| 07:13:34 | jacques | anyway, you guys give u pabout the trivia question? |
| 07:13:39 | Zorak | no |
| 07:13:44 | jacques | ok |
| 07:13:57 | Zorak | I'm going to guess |
| 07:14:08 | jacques | that's fine |
| 07:15:29 | Zorak | ummmm.... |
| 07:16:05 | Zorak | It's coming to me.... |
| 07:16:12 | jacques | no hurry |
| 07:16:26 | jacques | pleaes tell me you;re not playig the skit in your head and counting |
| 07:16:42 | Zorak | that wouldn't be fair now, would it |
| 07:17:19 | jacques | yes it would |
| 07:17:29 | jacques | if you had the skit memorized |
| 07:19:22 | Zorak | 80 times? |
| 07:19:59 | Zorak | well? |
| 07:20:09 | jacques | well according to this article http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=humannews&StoryID=704764 |
| 07:20:13 | jacques | it's 102 times |
| 07:20:33 | Zorak | I must have forgotten a line or two |
| 07:20:38 | captain_proton | they have something on -reuters- about that?!?! |
| 07:20:43 | captain_proton | must be a slow news day |
| 07:20:54 | Zorak | reuters just copies everything from the bbc |
| 07:20:54 | jacques | it's in the 'odd news' section - my favorite |
| 07:21:58 | Zorak | Anyways, who would count that much spam? It's not even the dead parrot sketch. |
| 07:22:54 | jacques | heh |
| 07:27:12 | vogon_jeltz | this thing would be so much cleaner if I just forked the tree |
| 07:27:24 | captain_proton | ha |
| 07:27:34 | captain_proton | either way, its f0rked |
| 07:27:37 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 07:27:38 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 07:27:40 | captain_proton | slaps himself |
| 07:27:55 | captain_proton | goddamnit |
| 07:28:03 | captain_proton | i get no sleep last night.. |
| 07:28:09 | captain_proton | and the puns come out again |
| 07:30:08 | Zorak | captain_proton: don't hurt the talent |
| 07:31:01 | captain_proton | Zorak: having puns flying around is NOT a good thing |
| 07:31:46 | Zorak | captain_proton: Puns are a natural defense against intelligent thought |
| 07:32:30 | captain_proton | Zorak: not quite |
| 07:32:55 | captain_proton | Zorak: its just sweeping groans are sucky |
| 07:34:02 | Zorak | thinks that went over its head. |
| 07:38:39 | vogon_jeltz | $ ./bzflag |
| 07:38:39 | vogon_jeltz | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 07:38:59 | captain_proton | YUO AER TEH SUCK! |
| 07:39:27 | vogon_jeltz | like I said, forking the tree would be easier |
| 07:40:04 | vogon_jeltz | crap |
| 07:40:08 | vogon_jeltz | that's a problem |
| 07:40:14 | captain_proton | what is? |
| 07:40:28 | vogon_jeltz | it tries to SDL_GL_SetAttribute before it actually initializes the library |
| 07:40:42 | captain_proton | lol |
| 07:40:54 | jacques | heading home |
| 07:41:08 | captain_proton | whats that one phrase that JeffK always spells right? |
| 07:41:14 | vogon_jeltz | JUMP UP MY BUTT |
| 07:41:24 | captain_proton | ahh yes :) |
| 07:45:10 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... crap on a cracker |
| 07:45:31 | captain_proton | ? |
| 07:45:41 | vogon_jeltz | this thing is pissing me off |
| 07:48:13 | vogon_jeltz | runs around wildly |
| 07:48:14 | vogon_jeltz | it works! |
| 07:50:35 | vogon_jeltz | remakes the latest CVS |
| 07:50:55 | vogon_jeltz | you fuckers better not have broken anything or I will kill you |
| 07:51:29 | captain_proton | rofl |
| 07:52:26 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 07:52:30 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 07:52:42 | vogon_jeltz | I haven't prepared a patch yet, so NO SOUP FOR YOU |
| 07:52:49 | captain_proton | just JUMP UP MY BUTT |
| 07:52:56 | vogon_jeltz | GRABUALSA |
| 07:55:59 | vogon_jeltz | and it only runs at 1024x768x32, because I didn't implement resolution switching yet |
| 07:56:55 | vogon_jeltz | up for a game on two? |
| 07:57:05 | captain_proton | sure |
| 07:57:12 | vogon_jeltz | just wait until this thing's done compiling |
| 07:57:13 | captain_proton | lemme fire up 1.8 |
| 07:57:21 | vogon_jeltz | OK, done |
| 07:57:22 | captain_proton | gets out the jumper cables |
| 07:57:33 | captain_proton | lemme update cvs quickly |
| 07:57:46 | vogon_jeltz | OK, ducati; I'll be waiting |
| 07:58:11 | vogon_jeltz | crap |
| 07:58:18 | vogon_jeltz | ducati's using an old protocol, methinks |
| 07:58:36 | vogon_jeltz | fire up a 1.8 on bhaskara |
| 07:58:36 | captain_proton | what about two |
| 07:58:39 | captain_proton | k |
| 07:58:43 | vogon_jeltz | it doesn't show up on the server list |
| 07:58:55 | vogon_jeltz | and I am absolutely freaking positive I didn't break net |
| 07:59:32 | vogon_jeltz | you done yet? |
| 07:59:46 | captain_proton | yep |
| 07:59:48 | captain_proton | 128.138.3.43:5156 |
| 07:59:58 | vogon_jeltz | is it public? |
| 08:00:02 | captain_proton | supposedly |
| 08:00:06 | captain_proton | server list seems f0rked |
| 08:00:37 | vogon_jeltz | gah |
| 08:00:40 | vogon_jeltz | it won't let me connect |
| 08:01:05 | captain_proton | it won't?! |
| 08:01:10 | captain_proton | try telnet |
| 08:01:24 | vogon_jeltz | crap |
| 08:01:30 | vogon_jeltz | when I drop into the game, it segfaults |
| 08:01:30 | captain_proton | breat net? |
| 08:01:34 | captain_proton | rofl |
| 08:02:02 | vogon_jeltz | grr |
| 08:02:04 | vogon_jeltz | Joystick code |
| 08:02:08 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 08:02:30 | vogon_jeltz | do you want me to kick your ass, bitch? |
| 08:02:52 | captain_proton | does it work? |
| 08:03:03 | vogon_jeltz | until it crashes, yeah |
| 08:03:09 | captain_proton | coo |
| 08:03:12 | captain_proton | be there in a sec |
| 08:03:28 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:03:32 | vogon_jeltz | now it crashes again |
| 08:03:33 | vogon_jeltz | fun |
| 08:04:05 | captain_proton | haha |
| 08:04:12 | captain_proton | do you want me to kick your client, bitch? |
| 08:04:20 | vogon_jeltz | no, bitch |
| 08:04:58 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 08:06:31 | vogon_jeltz | it works, bitch |
| 08:06:37 | captain_proton | ok |
| 08:06:39 | captain_proton | lets get it on! |
| 08:06:44 | captain_proton | bitch |
| 08:25:12 | vogon_jeltz | grr |
| 08:25:23 | vogon_jeltz | how do I diff two trees when I've added files to one? |
| 08:33:58 | vogon_jeltz | is away: VFS: Panic: Cannot mount root fs |
| 08:43:39 | jacques | what's going on? |
| 08:46:48 | jacques | why is bharaskara showing up in the 1.7 serverlist? |
| 08:54:44 | captain_proton | that was cool |
| 08:54:50 | captain_proton | scanline: you had the same computed lag as me |
| 08:55:24 | jacques | I HATE THAT MAP |
| 08:55:29 | captain_proton | decks? |
| 08:58:06 | captain_proton | goes to shower |
| 08:59:38 | jacques | yes |
| 08:59:43 | captain_proton | but why? |
| 08:59:47 | jacques | but the lack of lag on that server is awesome |
| 08:59:54 | jacques | AWESOME i tell you |
| 09:00:02 | captain_proton | geeee |
| 09:00:05 | jacques | but what's with the player named '' |
| 09:00:11 | jacques | invisible name |
| 09:00:14 | captain_proton | he was actually named ' ' |
| 09:00:17 | jacques | half the time he was invisible too |
| 09:00:22 | jacques | i swear to god |
| 09:00:27 | jacques | it was like he was cloaked |
| 09:00:28 | captain_proton | uh, no |
| 09:00:34 | jacques | no? |
| 09:00:37 | captain_proton | no he wasn't |
| 09:00:46 | jacques | then why were shots appearing ouit of thin air? |
| 09:00:51 | captain_proton | they weren't |
| 09:00:59 | jacques | then where were they coming from? |
| 09:01:05 | captain_proton | his tank |
| 09:01:13 | jacques | why are you so sure? |
| 09:01:19 | captain_proton | what kind of network connection are you on? |
| 09:01:25 | captain_proton | because i was there, remember? |
| 09:01:36 | jacques | he's the only one that was doing that |
| 09:01:47 | jacques | you werent watching every second surely |
| 09:01:52 | captain_proton | no |
| 09:01:58 | captain_proton | but i usually notice such things |
| 09:02:05 | jacques | i only saw it with him |
| 09:02:17 | captain_proton | ok now i'm actually going to shower |
| 09:02:20 | jacques | sometimes I did see him though |
| 09:04:42 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:30:43) |
| 09:20:04 | captain_proton | is away: I'm busy |
| 09:21:14 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: any progress? |
| 09:21:18 | vogon_jeltz | not really |
| 09:21:24 | vogon_jeltz | it doesn't look to be my bug |
| 09:22:02 | captain_proton | i could take a gander |
| 09:34:10 | vogon_jeltz | is away: AFK |
| 11:20:51 | vogon_jeltz | is away: "But now my inner demon is tired. He's saying, 'Woo... let's get some ice cream. And a porno... that'd be good. And then, some sleepy-sleep.'" -- Marc Maron |
| 11:47:36 | Chestal | good morning |
| 11:56:53 | scram | afternoon all |
| 11:57:13 | scram | you there, tanky? |
| 12:03:13 | cubistic_fixator | tankenstein? any takers? |
| 12:03:14 | cubistic_fixator | hmmm? |
| 12:05:16 | cubistic_fixator | i recognize that connection :O) |
| 12:05:56 | iLLf8d | cubist its me tank |
| 12:06:00 | iLLf8d | sorry bout that |
| 12:06:02 | iLLf8d | having machine troubles |
| 12:06:04 | iLLf8d | figures |
| 12:25:03 | scanline | hehe... |
| 12:25:04 | scanline | 133 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded. |
| 12:25:04 | scanline | Need to get 54.3MB/74.8MB of archives. After unpacking 801kB will be freed. |
| 12:25:04 | scanline | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] |
| 12:25:14 | scanline | hugs debian |
| 12:31:45 | Chestal | hmm, good idea, let's update |
| 12:34:46 | scanline | must be one of those loony debian fanatics... he even has debian root image on his X desktop |
| 12:35:36 | scanline | brushed aluminum with the debian logo engraved in it.. a quick Gimp hack |
| 12:35:54 | Chestal | waah, they updated mozilla and now it coflicts wirh galeon |
| 12:36:11 | scanline | yeah, i saw that, so i did a 'upgrade' instead of 'dist-upgrade' |
| 12:36:16 | scanline | (until they fix it) |
| 12:36:24 | scanline | hugs galeon-beta |
| 12:37:30 | Chestal | 52MB to download |
| 12:39:21 | Chestal | eqach time I update my sid I get a new bash, mozilla and gcc |
| 12:39:36 | Chestal | let's see if g++-3.0 is still broken |
| 12:45:51 | Chestal | I wonder if we shuld use some of the boost stuff for bzflag? |
| 12:46:05 | Chestal | shared_ptr maybe? or the protable thread package? |
| 13:21:58 | scanline | compiles gcc-3.0 for m68k-linux.. crunch crunch grind... |
| 13:31:16 | Chestal | hmm, g++-3.0 still gone in newest sid, strange |
| 16:04:38 | Zorak | welcome, citizen |
| 16:40:07 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 17:07:09 | BZFlag | grumbles about his mips build not working |
| 17:20:55 | BZFlag | tries 2.95.4 on mips instead of egcs 1.0.2 |
| 17:26:54 | BZFlag | XMLTree.cxx:339: warning: enumeration value `Include' not handled in switch |
| 17:34:19 | Chestal | I think I also get this, have seen it before |
| 17:34:54 | Chestal | yes, here, too |
| 17:48:05 | Chestal | hmm, is there an easy way to give default values for newly introdoced variables? |
| 17:48:30 | BZFlag | In file included from ../../include/SceneVisitorBaseRender.h:16, |
| 17:48:30 | BZFlag | from SceneVisitorBaseRender.cxx:13: |
| 17:48:30 | BZFlag | ../../include/SceneVisitor.h: In method `bool SceneVisitor::visit(SceneNodeParticleSystem *)': |
| 17:48:30 | BZFlag | ../../include/SceneVisitor.h:57: warning: unused parameter `class SceneNodeParticleSystem * n' |
| 17:48:49 | BZFlag | Chestal: DB values? |
| 17:48:54 | Chestal | BZFlag: yes |
| 17:49:03 | Chestal | I am adding several radar options right now with menus |
| 17:49:50 | BZFlag | static DefaultDBItem |
| 17:49:55 | Chestal | BZFlag: yep, I get a bunch of these unused Particle parameters, too |
| 17:49:55 | BZFlag | in bzflag.cxx |
| 17:52:43 | MrApathyCream | just remove the variable name i think |
| 17:53:12 | MrApathyCream | or do |
| 17:53:13 | MrApathyCream | n; |
| 17:53:15 | MrApathyCream | at the top |
| 17:54:54 | Chestal | well, I'll do withotu defautl values for now |
| 17:55:02 | Chestal | enhancedradar hasn't one, either |
| 18:03:32 | Chestal | ah, Cream handled the warnings |
| 18:18:13 | lupinator | nhellas |
| 18:18:17 | lupinator | narg |
| 18:47:02 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 07:26:11) |
| 21:01:48 | MrApathyCream | #define std::unary_function unary_function |
| 21:01:54 | MrApathyCream | is a no-go in windows as well |
| 21:08:11 | MrApathyCream | no colons allowed in #define's apparently |
| 21:08:51 | | BZFlag was last seen on #zaurus 1 hours, 56 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: heh. des has no decryt [Sat Mar 16 19:12:45 2002] |
| 21:08:51 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen BZFlag? |
| 21:09:05 | MrApathyCream | erg |
| 21:21:01 | BZFlag | sup? |
| 21:23:43 | BZFlag | ah, yes. removed. looks like it never helped anyway. |
| 21:27:42 | MrApathyCream | erg, linux/unix must imply using namespace std, which windows does not. |
| 21:27:57 | MrApathyCream | I guess i'll add precompiled header to define that in windoze |
| 21:29:01 | BZFlag | current source does not compile for you? |
| 21:29:23 | BZFlag | works here on old 2.7.2 gcc as well as 2.95.x |
| 21:29:46 | vogon_jeltz | ahh, BZ, just the person I've been looking for; I got the SDL thing to work |
| 21:30:07 | BZFlag | sweet. does it still build both ways? |
| 21:30:11 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 21:30:19 | BZFlag | grumbles something aboue autoconf... |
| 21:30:22 | vogon_jeltz | well, it should, once I add a bit back to the makefile |
| 21:30:31 | vogon_jeltz | and I have to add in a new SDL build target |
| 21:30:36 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: on windoze, you can't just say unary_function |
| 21:30:47 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: you need to say either std::unary_function |
| 21:30:47 | MrApathyCream | or |
| 21:30:51 | MrApathyCream | using namespace std; |
| 21:30:52 | vogon_jeltz | because Windoze iz t3h st00pid |
| 21:30:55 | vogon_jeltz | ;) |
| 21:30:56 | MrApathyCream | unary_function |
| 21:31:02 | MrApathyCream | windows is correct |
| 21:31:26 | MrApathyCream | linux is sloppy |
| 21:31:54 | iLLf8d | earthquake nice |
| 21:31:56 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 21:32:41 | BZFlag | I ask again, does the current source build for you? |
| 21:36:26 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 21:36:36 | MrApathyCream | missing std:: prefixes |
| 21:41:25 | BZFlag | hmmm. |
| 21:41:55 | BZFlag | is this only an issue with std::unary_function ? |
| 21:45:47 | iLLf8d | hey can someone gimme a shell |
| 21:45:57 | iLLf8d | I need to try to get an ftpd working |
| 21:46:01 | iLLf8d | just temporarily |
| 21:46:12 | iLLf8d | I think my routers messing things up |
| 21:49:48 | MrApathyCream | no everywhere |
| 21:50:03 | MrApathyCream | It's just that up til now, std:: has been added to anything from stl |
| 21:50:10 | MrApathyCream | It's really quite silly. |
| 21:50:19 | MrApathyCream | My understanding is that |
| 21:50:22 | MrApathyCream | using namespace std; |
| 21:50:28 | MrApathyCream | has problems in linux world no? |
| 21:51:17 | BZFlag | well, this is all for rikers.org which is an old mips box. |
| 21:51:29 | BZFlag | linux (newer linux) is fine with std:: |
| 21:52:11 | MrApathyCream | would be better to just use using namespace std; |
| 21:52:21 | MrApathyCream | as everyone forgets to add the prefix |
| 21:56:55 | BZFlag | using namespace std; seems to work on normal linux. |
| 21:57:01 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 21:57:09 | iLLf8d | can someone hook me up with a quicky shell? |
| 21:57:20 | iLLf8d | I need to see if I can get my ftpd to play nice with my firewall |
| 21:57:41 | iLLf8d | just a temp shell for the day (or less, i'm hoping it'll be for 5 min heh) |
| 21:58:29 | iLLf8d | dunno if anyone saw this before my cables been really sketchy lately |
| 21:59:44 | BZFlag | ok, try that. |
| 22:01:28 | BZFlag | iLLf8d: got a SF account? you have a shell there. |
| 22:01:38 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 22:01:44 | iLLf8d | an I ftp from there? |
| 22:01:48 | iLLf8d | s/an/can? |
| 22:01:50 | BZFlag | I think so yes. |
| 22:01:55 | iLLf8d | I need to login and see if it will up |
| 22:02:04 | iLLf8d | the login works but when you up it craps |
| 22:02:06 | MrApathyCream | you want an ftp client? |
| 22:02:21 | iLLf8d | I need to have someone login and see if they can up a file |
| 22:02:42 | iLLf8d | perhaps one of you could try it? |
| 22:02:59 | iLLf8d | ftp 24.136.76.110 8000 |
| 22:03:03 | iLLf8d | then put anything |
| 22:03:10 | iLLf8d | oops |
| 22:03:11 | iLLf8d | sorry |
| 22:03:19 | iLLf8d | login/pass is cubist/bzflag |
| 22:03:31 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag; Nope, cause of conflict with Bzfio.h's |
| 22:03:33 | MrApathyCream | typedef std::istream istream; |
| 22:03:33 | MrApathyCream | typedef std::ostream ostream; |
| 22:03:43 | MrApathyCream | If they were removed, it would work -- i believe |
| 22:04:06 | MrApathyCream | ill hold on |
| 22:04:32 | iLLf8d | np you guys are working i'll ask around =) |
| 22:04:40 | iLLf8d | DON'T STOP CODING =) |
| 22:04:42 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:04:50 | iLLf8d | would rather be playing 1.8 |
| 22:04:51 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 22:04:55 | BZFlag | ftp://cubist:bzflag@24.136.76.110/ does not work for me. |
| 22:06:27 | MrApathyCream | iLLf8d: ftp://cubist@24.136.76.110/ doesn't work no connection |
| 22:07:01 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 22:07:48 | BZFlag | removing typedef std::istream istream; causes string overruns on my mips box |
| 22:09:35 | MrApathyCream | because it's yanking from istream.h instead of istream. ibelieve |
| 22:15:32 | BZFlag | hack/slash... |
| 22:23:47 | BZFlag | barely limping along compiling.... |
| 22:23:53 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 22:26:10 | BZFlag | does cvs work now on windows? |
| 22:26:19 | MrApathyCream | nope |
| 22:26:38 | MrApathyCream | attempting to patch with #ifdef WIN32 type stuff |
| 22:26:45 | BZFlag | oh, typedef std::istream istream; still, yes? |
| 22:27:44 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 22:27:49 | MrApathyCream | and istringstream, and ..... |
| 22:27:52 | BZFlag | argh.... need autoconf. |
| 22:28:55 | BZFlag | aren't these c++ "features" sich timesavers? ;-) |
| 22:28:59 | BZFlag | er such |
| 22:29:09 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 22:29:16 | MrApathyCream | almost |
| 22:30:08 | captain_proton | returns triumphantly |
| 22:30:48 | BZFlag | hopes captain_proton fixed compiles on all platforms. |
| 22:31:25 | captain_proton | just woke up |
| 22:33:09 | MrApathyCream | hmmmm |
| 22:33:10 | MrApathyCream | E:\bz\bz_cvs_HEAD\A\src\ui\MenuReader.cxx(338) : error C2955: 'list' : use of class template requires template argument list |
| 22:33:10 | MrApathyCream | C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\INCLUDE\list(415) : see declaration of 'list' |
| 22:36:37 | captain_proton | ergh |
| 22:50:50 | captain_proton | anybody know where the console code is? |
| 22:56:45 | | 'ph4n70m' is 34% lame, captain_proton |
| 22:56:45 | captain_proton | ibot, nickometer ph4n70m |
| 23:16:39 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: you here? |
| 23:16:48 | captain_proton | yes |
| 23:17:14 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: if you'd like to read the first section-and-a-half of the Paranoia Player Handbook, it's up at http://icculus.org/~vogon/paranoia_player.ps |
| 23:17:51 | captain_proton | slaps the TeX out of vogon_jeltz |
| 23:17:54 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 23:18:00 | vogon_jeltz | want me to make some LaTeX output? |
| 23:18:27 | captain_proton | BLAH |
| 23:18:42 | vogon_jeltz | can't output TeX from LyX |
| 23:19:10 | captain_proton | blah i say! |
| 23:19:19 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 23:26:17 | vogon_jeltz | would you settle for HTML? |
| 23:27:00 | vogon_jeltz | http://icculus.org/~vogon/paranoia_player.html |
| 23:28:29 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: how long till the rest is up? =} |
| 23:28:34 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 23:28:38 | vogon_jeltz | as soon as I can type it :) |
| 23:29:10 | captain_proton | implement resolution switching yet? |
| 23:29:18 | vogon_jeltz | that's about 3 pages out of 12 |
| 23:29:28 | vogon_jeltz | nah, I'm doing this to take a break from hacking on that thing |
| 23:29:58 | captain_proton | so - what now? |
| 23:29:58 | vogon_jeltz | ... and an innocent squirrel is speedily dispatched by our hero. As for the fate of the agents, you are left to speculate. |
| 23:30:03 | vogon_jeltz | I love that line |
| 23:30:16 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: I'll prolly eat a late, late lunch, then get back to typing |
| 23:30:22 | vogon_jeltz | I might hack on the SDL thing later |
| 23:30:35 | captain_proton | ergh |
| 23:30:37 | captain_proton | i'm so hungry |
| 23:58:13 | scanline | is away: foodlike edible stuff |