| 01:10:57 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzzzz |
| 01:11:05 | scanline | is away: foodlike stuff, i think |
| 03:37:05 | captain_proton | crs! |
| 03:38:45 | captain_proton | are you awake? |
| 03:44:07 | crs23 | oh hey ya! |
| 03:44:25 | captain_proton | i can't figure out how to billboard stuff |
| 03:44:31 | captain_proton | everything else works beautifully |
| 03:44:47 | crs23 | great! billboarding is pretty easy... |
| 03:45:02 | crs23 | you could require a billboard node above your particle node... |
| 03:45:10 | captain_proton | ick |
| 03:45:20 | crs23 | or you can push a billboard transform and use it when rendering |
| 03:45:40 | crs23 | you can use the billboard code from SceneNodeBillboard. |
| 03:45:40 | captain_proton | how do i do that? |
| 03:45:48 | captain_proton | (push a billboard transform) |
| 03:46:29 | crs23 | well, you already do matrixList.push_back() in your visit(particle)... |
| 03:46:41 | crs23 | you just need to push a custom matrix |
| 03:48:36 | crs23 | instead of pushing the matrix on the modelXFormStack, push a billboard of that matrix |
| 03:50:39 | crs23 | the code for computing that is in SceneNodeBillboard::get(). use the stuff in the if (turn.get() ...) block. |
| 03:51:00 | captain_proton | ok i'll take a look |
| 03:51:34 | crs23 | before the cut-n-paste code insert `Matrix m(modelXFormStack.back());' and at the end push m instead of modelXFormStack.back(). |
| 04:04:50 | captain_proton | ok lets see if this works... |
| 04:04:58 | crs23 | crosses fingers |
| 04:08:12 | captain_proton | SceneVisitorRender.cxx: In method `bool SceneVisitorRender::visit |
| 04:08:12 | captain_proton | (SceneNodeParticleSystem *)': |
| 04:08:12 | captain_proton | SceneVisitorRender.cxx:780: cannot convert `Matrix *' to `unsigned int' |
| 04:08:12 | captain_proton | in assignment |
| 04:08:44 | vogon_jeltz | YUO R TEH LOOSAR! |
| 04:08:50 | vogon_jeltz | :P |
| 04:08:54 | captain_proton | bitch-slaps vogon_jeltz |
| 04:09:57 | crs23 | did you change the code that uses modelXFormIndexStack? just leave that as is. |
| 04:10:38 | captain_proton | so i still have: |
| 04:10:42 | captain_proton | job.xformView = modelXFormIndexStack.back(); |
| 04:11:36 | crs23 | yes, and the `modelXFormIndexStack.back() = matrixList.size();' before where you push the matrix onto matrixList. |
| 04:11:53 | captain_proton | k |
| 04:14:58 | captain_proton | well it compiles =) lets see if it works |
| 04:15:40 | captain_proton | they're not billboarded |
| 04:15:57 | crs23 | hmm |
| 04:16:19 | crs23 | can you send me the file? |
| 04:16:44 | captain_proton | wait |
| 04:17:00 | captain_proton | i'm betting i have to do a modelXFormIndexStack.push(m) |
| 04:20:03 | captain_proton | err |
| 04:20:07 | captain_proton | modelXFormStack |
| 04:21:38 | captain_proton | argg now i don't see anything at all |
| 04:22:25 | crs23 | d'oh! that's a common problem when playing around with transforms. |
| 04:22:56 | captain_proton | i added a pop() after i formed the job - now its back to where it was |
| 04:23:41 | crs23 | i don't follow you |
| 04:23:46 | captain_proton | well |
| 04:23:51 | captain_proton | i do this: |
| 04:23:59 | captain_proton | Matrix m(modelXFormStack.back()); |
| 04:24:06 | captain_proton | <cut n paste code from billboard> |
| 04:24:19 | captain_proton | modelXFormStack.push_back(m); |
| 04:24:24 | captain_proton | <form job> |
| 04:24:29 | captain_proton | (if i do that, i get nothing) |
| 04:24:37 | captain_proton | if i add this after the job formation |
| 04:24:44 | captain_proton | modelXFormStack.pop_back(); |
| 04:24:54 | captain_proton | i get my same old drawing |
| 04:25:04 | crs23 | k. hang on. i have an idea. |
| 04:26:35 | crs23 | before `Matrix m(modelXFormStack.back())' add `modelXFormIndexStack.push_back(matrixList.size())'... |
| 04:26:55 | crs23 | oh, wait. just another sec. |
| 04:28:23 | crs23 | screw that. remove the `modelXFormIndexStack.back() = matrixList.size();' and use `job.xformView = matrixList.size() - 1;' when creating your job. |
| 04:28:52 | captain_proton | remove these 4 lines you mean: |
| 04:28:56 | captain_proton | if (projectionXFormIndexStack.back() == 0xffffffff) { |
| 04:28:56 | captain_proton | projectionXFormIndexStack.back() = matrixList.size(); |
| 04:28:56 | captain_proton | matrixList.push_back(projectionXFormStack.back()); |
| 04:28:56 | captain_proton | } |
| 04:28:57 | captain_proton | ? |
| 04:29:34 | crs23 | yes. also you want `matrixList.push_back(m)' not `modelXFormStack.push_back(m)'. remove the pop_back() if it's still there. |
| 04:30:34 | captain_proton | trying |
| 04:31:14 | captain_proton | i see nothing |
| 04:31:35 | crs23 | grr |
| 04:31:43 | captain_proton | seems like if I push a matrix somewheres i ought to pop it |
| 04:32:02 | crs23 | the matrixList is clear()'d after draw() is called. |
| 04:32:24 | crs23 | it's really a vector, not a stack. |
| 04:32:32 | captain_proton | yeah ok |
| 04:34:23 | captain_proton | should it still be Matrix m(modelXFormStack.back()); |
| 04:34:24 | captain_proton | ? |
| 04:35:22 | crs23 | yeah, you want to start with the current matrix and billboard that. |
| 04:35:55 | captain_proton | then right after |
| 04:35:59 | captain_proton | m.mult(ViewFrustum::getTransform()); |
| 04:36:01 | captain_proton | i do |
| 04:36:05 | captain_proton | matrixList.push_back(m); |
| 04:36:05 | captain_proton | ? |
| 04:36:32 | crs23 | yes. you might try printing x,y,z, matrix[12], matrix[13], matrix[14]. those are the scale and translation. |
| 04:40:27 | captain_proton | transformation: scale(1, 1, 1), translation(0, 0, -8) |
| 04:41:05 | crs23 | you're using bzgview i assume. that's correct. hmm. |
| 04:41:10 | captain_proton | yes i am |
| 04:42:26 | crs23 | can you print the matrix before billboarding? translation should still be 0,0,-8. what're the other elements? |
| 04:43:05 | captain_proton | print the entire matrix? (0-15) ? |
| 04:43:10 | crs23 | yeah. |
| 04:45:02 | captain_proton | transformation matrix: |
| 04:45:02 | captain_proton | [1, 0, 0, 0] |
| 04:45:02 | captain_proton | [0, -4.37114e-08, -1, 0] |
| 04:45:02 | captain_proton | [0, 1, -4.37114e-08, 0] |
| 04:45:03 | captain_proton | [0, 0, -8, 1] |
| 04:45:37 | crs23 | okay. um, try commenting out `m.mult(ViewFrustum::getTransform());' |
| 04:46:38 | captain_proton | still doesn't draw |
| 04:47:41 | crs23 | hmm, restore that and try using `matrix[5] = -y'. if that doesn't help, try `matrix[10] = -z' instead. |
| 04:48:56 | captain_proton | still doesn't draw |
| 04:50:26 | crs23 | weird. but it draws if you don't billboard? i'm a bit confused. |
| 04:50:40 | crs23 | by that, i mean. |
| 04:50:44 | captain_proton | well |
| 04:50:51 | captain_proton | i see some of the particles when i don't billboard |
| 04:51:09 | captain_proton | its being weird |
| 04:51:20 | captain_proton | want me to send you a tarball of this tree so you can look? |
| 04:51:42 | crs23 | i can't look at it until monday, so hold off for now. |
| 04:52:15 | crs23 | you might try just one particle that doesn't move (much) until that works perfectly |
| 04:53:50 | captain_proton | i don't see how that will help... |
| 04:55:07 | crs23 | well, just to avoid distractions. if "some" particles appear then some don't, indicating a possible problem. with just one particle it either works or doesn't. |
| 04:56:41 | captain_proton | perhaps its a problem with how i create the vertices? |
| 04:57:03 | crs23 | how do you create them? |
| 04:57:21 | captain_proton | in my update function, i have a for loop that runs through the deque of particles |
| 04:57:25 | captain_proton | it then does this: |
| 04:57:30 | captain_proton | verteces.push(particles[i].location[0] - size); |
| 04:57:30 | captain_proton | verteces.push(particles[i].location[1] + size); |
| 04:57:30 | captain_proton | verteces.push(particles[i].location[2]); |
| 04:57:35 | captain_proton | same for ++ +- and -- |
| 04:58:30 | crs23 | ahh! good instincts there captain. the coords should be (-1,0,-1) (-1,0,1) (1,0,-1) (1,0,1). |
| 04:59:31 | crs23 | that's for a tstrip with index order 1 0 3 2. |
| 04:59:47 | captain_proton | i'm using a quad |
| 04:59:59 | captain_proton | because of the call to glDrawElements |
| 05:01:08 | crs23 | k. use (-1,0,-1) (1,0,-1) (1,0,1), (-1,0,1). |
| 05:01:39 | captain_proton | trying... |
| 05:01:49 | crs23 | and add a gstate above your particles to turn off culling (for now) in case that's backwards. |
| 05:03:15 | captain_proton | still have all the modifications of earlier? (matrixList and all) |
| 05:03:53 | crs23 | ummm. yeah, except the -y, -z stuff. |
| 05:04:50 | iLL_Away | waits patiently to hear the end of the story |
| 05:05:15 | captain_proton | no luck |
| 05:06:13 | crs23 | *humph* |
| 05:07:26 | iLL_notsoaway | how often do you guys commit? |
| 05:07:36 | captain_proton | whenever i have something done |
| 05:07:38 | iLL_notsoaway | just daily or many times daily |
| 05:07:39 | crs23 | same here |
| 05:07:46 | iLL_notsoaway | ah |
| 05:07:47 | iLL_notsoaway | ok |
| 05:07:51 | captain_proton | some things take 5 minutes, some take days or weeks |
| 05:07:56 | iLL_notsoaway | so whenever I wanna take a looksee I should compile |
| 05:08:06 | crs23 | don't commit something that doesn't work |
| 05:08:26 | crs23 | yeah, the source tree should always build to something useful. |
| 05:08:35 | iLL_notsoaway | don't look at me (heh I mean just for me to goof of and play not add code) |
| 05:08:45 | iLL_notsoaway | s/of/off |
| 05:08:56 | iLL_notsoaway | my coding skills are too embarrasing for a comit |
| 05:08:57 | captain_proton | i don't know if cvs works right now - tim ripped out multicasting and it doesn't seem to be setting up the udp stuff right |
| 05:09:13 | iLL_notsoaway | I compiled uhm |
| 05:09:15 | crs23 | k. just letting you know the tree should build. |
| 05:09:17 | iLL_notsoaway | about 4-5 hours ago |
| 05:09:22 | iLL_notsoaway | and its not working as of then |
| 05:09:27 | crs23 | really? naughty, naughty, tim. |
| 05:09:29 | iLL_notsoaway | connects and segfaults |
| 05:09:39 | iLL_notsoaway | will try to cvs and recompile |
| 05:10:01 | MrApathyCream | what's not working? |
| 05:11:55 | iLL_notsoaway | dunno |
| 05:12:03 | iLL_notsoaway | thats as of uhm |
| 05:12:09 | iLL_notsoaway | maybe 4-5 hours ago i'm guessing |
| 05:12:25 | iLL_notsoaway | it connects then all of a sudden segfaults (compliing whats there now tho) |
| 05:12:28 | iLL_notsoaway | maybe its newer |
| 05:12:45 | iLL_notsoaway | nice bzflag logo in the console |
| 05:12:46 | iLL_notsoaway | =) |
| 05:13:11 | MrApathyCream | oh, MsgDropFlag protocol changed |
| 05:13:12 | captain_proton | why thank you |
| 05:13:19 | MrApathyCream | prolly you have old version |
| 05:13:54 | iLL_notsoaway | dunno |
| 05:14:13 | iLL_notsoaway | wishes he could figure something out enough to help =( |
| 05:14:43 | MrApathyCream | I wish someone would fix why the client is dang sluggish, --> un 'Debug'-able |
| 05:14:43 | iLL_notsoaway | lol |
| 05:15:02 | iLL_notsoaway | my gf is watching a real audio old black and white film on how to use the dial telephone heh |
| 05:15:03 | iLL_notsoaway | =P |
| 05:15:23 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 05:15:58 | iLL_notsoaway | 1927 |
| 05:15:59 | iLL_notsoaway | heh |
| 05:16:00 | iLL_notsoaway | =P |
| 05:16:05 | MrApathyCream | i mentioned to riker that we should probably add a build id to the handshaking (temporarily) to enforce new clients |
| 05:16:11 | iLL_notsoaway | AT&T film heh |
| 05:16:30 | iLL_notsoaway | http://www.archive.org/movies/bytitle.html |
| 05:16:33 | iLL_notsoaway | cool sight |
| 05:16:43 | iLL_notsoaway | all old film strips adds etc... |
| 05:17:22 | MrApathyCream | i still would like mountains! |
| 05:17:32 | iLL_notsoaway | wants naked chicks |
| 05:17:33 | MrApathyCream | ill, if you could get them working, would be nice:) |
| 05:17:37 | iLL_notsoaway | screw the mountains |
| 05:17:41 | iLL_notsoaway | =P |
| 05:17:54 | iLL_notsoaway | just make it a toggle |
| 05:17:58 | iLL_notsoaway | I figure you can do |
| 05:18:10 | iLL_notsoaway | display backgroundG |
| 05:18:13 | iLL_notsoaway | display backgroundR |
| 05:18:15 | iLL_notsoaway | display backgroundX |
| 05:18:16 | iLL_notsoaway | heh |
| 05:18:25 | iLL_notsoaway | sorry I forgot the toggle part |
| 05:22:38 | MrApathyCream | welp, another day of no dev... off to happy 1.7 land |
| 05:23:08 | iLL_notsoaway | guys definatly checkout that url its cooler then I thought |
| 05:24:32 | iLL_notsoaway | hmm |
| 05:24:42 | iLL_notsoaway | I think i'm gonna download them all and putem on a cd |
| 05:27:17 | captain_proton | sobs |
| 05:42:19 | iLL_notsoaway | cap save it for the field |
| 05:42:24 | iLL_notsoaway | muwahahaha |
| 05:42:27 | captain_proton | shaddup |
| 05:42:37 | captain_proton | hits iLL_notsoaway with a particle |
| 05:42:46 | iLL_notsoaway | =) |
| 05:43:00 | captain_proton | care to live up to your big talking? |
| 05:43:01 | captain_proton | foo |
| 05:43:06 | vogon_jeltz | hits iLLf8d with a billboard |
| 05:43:19 | iLLf8d | yeah just not at the moment got a realaudio stream going watching it with my gf |
| 05:43:29 | iLLf8d | mountains of santamonica |
| 05:43:37 | iLLf8d | clip from the 50's |
| 05:44:07 | iLLf8d | you should see the size of thefish they're catching off the peer |
| 05:44:19 | iLLf8d | now all you'd get is garbage heh |
| 05:52:21 | captain_proton | goddamnit i'm getting pissed with the world up now |
| 05:53:50 | captain_proton | people grab gm and kill for hours |
| 06:02:52 | captain_proton | way to clone, yo |
| 06:19:41 | jacques | playing ppl with > 500 lag SUCKS |
| 06:44:37 | captain_proton | yep |
| 06:44:47 | captain_proton | i'm finding 300ms difficult recently |
| 07:32:36 | vogon_jeltz | is away: SNL |
| 09:06:49 | captain_proton | hi BZFlag |
| 09:11:42 | BZFlag | hey |
| 09:25:03 | jacques | ih |
| 09:29:02 | jacques | oops, meant hi |
| 10:29:37 | Chestal | good morning |
| 10:29:52 | captain_proton | good...errr...morning |
| 10:39:45 | jacques | heh, it's 2:30am here |
| 10:39:49 | jacques | oops 2:42 |
| 10:41:04 | Chestal | well, 11:43 here, I just got up |
| 10:42:15 | captain_proton | its 3:40 over in this neck of the woods |
| 10:43:01 | Chestal | I am rarely conscious at 3:40 |
| 10:43:13 | jacques | I like to stay up really late |
| 10:43:19 | jacques | (and get up really late :-\ |
| 10:43:41 | jacques | if I run a UDP-only server, do I only have to open one port in my firewall? |
| 10:44:50 | captain_proton | no it needs TCP for the beginning |
| 10:45:39 | jacques | oh really :-\ |
| 10:46:07 | jacques | so two ports? or the same port for both tcp and udp? |
| 10:46:48 | captain_proton | yes |
| 10:46:55 | captain_proton | well |
| 10:46:56 | captain_proton | three |
| 10:47:02 | captain_proton | -p xxx -pr xxx+1 |
| 10:47:10 | captain_proton | open up xxx and xxx+1 for tcp and xxx for udp |
| 10:47:29 | jacques | where xxx is the port the server advertises? |
| 10:47:53 | captain_proton | yep |
| 10:48:31 | jacques | cool, thanks |
| 10:51:17 | fontenot | i hate firewalls that have to restart to change settings |
| 10:51:19 | fontenot | POS |
| 10:51:45 | fontenot | also, how do I get xchat to remember the channels I am on and auto-join them? |
| 10:52:02 | fontenot | seems like it wants to keep different setting for every one of the 12312319746865r82547920 opn irc servers |
| 10:52:38 | | Test Failed! |
| 10:52:38 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 10:53:10 | Chestal | fontenot: don't know about xchat |
| 10:53:13 | fontenot | why is bzflag taking so long to find servers now? |
| 10:53:19 | fontenot | servers found: 0 |
| 10:53:25 | captain_proton | in the server list click 'edit' |
| 10:53:42 | captain_proton | then select autoconnect and list the channels you want to autojoin in 'channels' |
| 10:54:16 | fontenot | cool, delimiter? |
| 10:54:23 | fontenot | # required? |
| 10:55:44 | captain_proton | yep |
| 10:56:00 | fontenot | what's the delimiter - space or comma? |
| 10:59:07 | fontenot | hey - should run a bzflag server on my ipaq |
| 11:00:05 | fontenot | i wonder if there are any endian or packing issues |
| 11:00:28 | captain_proton | comma |
| 11:00:34 | captain_proton | ok i'm out |
| 11:00:38 | fontenot | later |
| 11:00:39 | captain_proton | 'night fellas |
| 11:00:56 | Chestal | n8 capt |
| 11:01:19 | vogon_jeltz | nn, cappy |
| 11:01:21 | Chestal | fontenot: bz's packing code should work on nearly 100% of the systems |
| 11:01:30 | vogon_jeltz | listens to the Ocean's Eleven soundtrack |
| 11:01:41 | fontenot | Chestal: this is StrongARM architecture |
| 11:02:08 | fontenot | hmm, actually I'm pretty sure BZflag already built on the ARM |
| 11:02:20 | fontenot | so it'll almost definitely work |
| 11:02:40 | fontenot | actually, maybe I'll try to build against uClibc and run on my tuxscreen |
| 11:02:59 | fontenot | how much memory does a server require |
| 11:03:01 | fontenot | ? |
| 11:03:16 | fontenot | hmm, I forgot c++ with uclibc is kinda not working yet... :-\ |
| 11:08:39 | | Test Successful! |
| 11:08:39 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 11:08:50 | | i guess eight ball is Better not tell you now |
| 11:08:50 | fontenot | ibot: eight ball |
| 11:09:04 | | fontenot: electromagnetic radiation from satellite debris |
| 11:09:04 | fontenot | ibot: excuse |
| 11:11:15 | | edonkey is nothing but a malt-wormy pile of goatish poopy. |
| 11:11:15 | Chestal | ibot: insult edonkey |
| 11:12:14 | | fontenot: sorry... |
| 11:12:14 | fontenot | ibot: eliza |
| 11:12:21 | | fontenot: sorry... |
| 11:12:21 | fontenot | ibot: eliza hi |
| 11:12:24 | fontenot | hmg |
| 11:12:36 | fontenot | eliza: testing |
| 13:15:57 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sl33p |
| 15:13:14 | pnm | afternoon all |
| 15:14:06 | pnm | having some problems with bzfs.. here's the terminal output: |
| 15:14:17 | pnm | bash-2.05$ bzfs |
| 15:14:18 | pnm | bzfs: Symbol `__vt_3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
| 15:14:18 | pnm | bzfs: Symbol `__vt_7istream.3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
| 15:14:18 | pnm | bzfs: Symbol `__vt_8ifstream.3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
| 15:14:18 | pnm | couldn't bind connect socket: Cannot assign requested address |
| 15:14:33 | pnm | any ideas, anyone? |
| 15:14:41 | pnm | any help would be much appreciated |
| 16:04:09 | | Test Failed! |
| 16:04:09 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 19:57:42 | iLLf8d | lo all |
| 19:58:52 | iLLf8d | how do you guys handle collision detection? do you overlay a grid on the field and assign everyone some kinda spatial reference? (ie when people get shot or run into shit, I elaborated because I dunno if i'm using the term "collision detection" correctly) |
| 20:00:48 | Chestal | well, shot/tank collision detection aka hits is done by just takign the distance AFAIK |
| 20:00:59 | Chestal | tanks / obstacles, I don't know |
| 20:01:08 | iLLf8d | well uhm |
| 20:01:16 | iLLf8d | gl is just for display right? |
| 20:01:24 | iLLf8d | they don't have a mechanism for that do they? |
| 20:02:30 | iLLf8d | in other words I display a gl field and a gl tank I should be able to drive right thru all objects shouldn't I? so I take it you guys have some kinda system that maps areas you can/can't pass through etc... |
| 20:03:22 | Chestal | yes, gl is only for displaying. I have nearly no knowledge of GL, but I am quite positive that I am right |
| 20:03:49 | iLLf8d | i've been running thru a few gl demos and it appears as if everything drawn you can pass thru |
| 20:04:03 | Chestal | well, one way to do it would be to create some kind of bounding box which closely resembles the tank's shape and check it for intersections with all obstacles in the world |
| 20:04:38 | iLLf8d | yeah then you need a map on top of the map to delinate bounding boxes for world structures too |
| 20:04:54 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 20:05:02 | iLLf8d | maybe not hmm |
| 20:05:04 | Chestal | probably, but world obstacles are simpel shapes anyway righ tnow |
| 20:05:32 | Chestal | just for tanks it would be too complicated to do a correct colision detection with all those polygons |
| 20:05:37 | Chestal | and probalb ynot needed anyway |
| 20:05:39 | iLLf8d | yeah... |
| 20:06:21 | iLLf8d | wonders if theres a gl call for objects in relative space to get positioning |
| 20:06:47 | Chestal | tries to fetch somethign to eat |
| 20:06:47 | iLLf8d | seems they're all drawn at 0,0,0 and then moved tho from the tuts i've been reading |
| 20:08:12 | iLLf8d | it listening to paul oakenfolds essential mix at ibiza its pretty decent =) |
| 21:32:49 | Chestal | quiet here today |
| 21:39:48 | Chestal | hi Tim. Is your 1.8 sevrer up to data? |
| 21:41:44 | BZFlag | data? ;-) probably not quite at the moment. want me to update it now? |
| 21:42:07 | Chestal | well, I don't need it right now, but it would be nice |
| 21:42:28 | Chestal | maybe we should really do somethign to stop client/server protocol mismatch |
| 21:42:37 | Chestal | my clien thas had soem crashes lately du e to that problem |
| 21:43:58 | BZFlag | heh. It will stablize with 1.8 release code. development is like that though. |
| 21:45:21 | Chestal | problem is, I never know if it's just a vrsion mismatch or a bug in the current code |
| 21:45:27 | Chestal | I can always start my own server of course |
| 21:45:41 | Chestal | maybe I'll start a semi-permanent 1.8 server, too |
| 21:45:58 | Chestal | so hopefully at we'll at least have on up-to-date server in the lit for everyone to try |
| 21:46:36 | Chestal | I can update mine during European hours and you yours on US hours :-) |
| 21:59:09 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 08:43:08) |
| 22:03:57 | BZFlag | updated and restarted. |
| 22:05:52 | Chestal | thanks |
| 22:07:46 | Chestal | hmm, still crashes on flag drop, guess it's a bug |
| 22:08:02 | Chestal | I had WA and game hang on auto-drop |
| 22:08:09 | Chestal | segfault |
| 22:47:41 | BZFlag | is hacking on udp to get cvs working. |
| 22:47:50 | MrApathyCream | cool |
| 22:48:30 | BZFlag | will break client/server again. ;-/ |
| 22:49:05 | MrApathyCream | how much could you break it? |
| 22:55:12 | scanline | is back (gone 21:44:07) |
| 22:59:51 | BZFlag | no getsockname on win32!? |
| 23:00:02 | MrApathyCream | i wish i could run bzflag in the debugger... erg |
| 23:00:50 | BZFlag | -mute -geometry 640x480 does not work or you? |
| 23:01:03 | MrApathyCream | nope |
| 23:01:14 | BZFlag | hmm.. works for me. |
| 23:01:15 | MrApathyCream | the client is completely non-responsive once deactivated |
| 23:01:38 | Chestal | I really need to remove the duck |
| 23:04:25 | MrApathyCream | what's wrong with the duck? |
| 23:05:18 | Chestal | it's cute, but it starts to get annoying |
| 23:05:36 | MrApathyCream | getsockname in winsock2.h? |
| 23:07:05 | Chestal | well, I'm off to bed+book for now |
| 23:08:53 | MrApathyCream | taking the duck too? |
| 23:09:03 | pnm | guys: I tried 1.8a from cvs |
| 23:09:13 | pnm | compiled fine |
| 23:09:24 | pnm | but all I get is a black screen when I run bzflag |
| 23:09:26 | pnm | any ideas? |
| 23:10:09 | MrApathyCream | no Join screen? |
| 23:10:18 | pnm | nope :( |
| 23:10:21 | pnm | just black... |
| 23:10:37 | MrApathyCream | edit xml file, make fonts white. |
| 23:10:38 | Chestal | MrApathyCream: no, I already eliminated the duck. There might be ducks in the book, though, but I don't think so |
| 23:10:47 | MrApathyCream | pete: just kiddin' |
| 23:11:03 | pnm | k |
| 23:12:04 | MrApathyCream | dunno |
| 23:12:28 | MrApathyCream | wouldn't do much more now anyway (even if you could see stuff) |
| 23:14:03 | pnm | aha |
| 23:16:59 | vogon_jeltz | hey, Tim, want me to produce a protocol def in TeX? |
| 23:17:12 | captain_proton | LaTeX please =} |
| 23:17:19 | vogon_jeltz | fine, LaTeX |
| 23:17:33 | vogon_jeltz | just got LyX |
| 23:17:40 | captain_proton | what is LyX? |
| 23:17:51 | vogon_jeltz | it's a WYSIWYM LaTeX/TeX editor |
| 23:18:07 | captain_proton | WYM? |
| 23:18:11 | vogon_jeltz | What You Mean |
| 23:18:16 | captain_proton | ahh interesting |
| 23:18:31 | vogon_jeltz | it's what the LaTeX parser should produce |
| 23:33:26 | MrApathyCream | how bout just fixing the program itself :)> |
| 23:33:51 | iLLf8d | heh yeah segfault on flag drop heh |
| 23:33:58 | MrApathyCream | with what server |
| 23:34:15 | pnm | is away: night all |
| 23:34:19 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: Did you update your server? |
| 23:34:21 | iLLf8d | I didn't recompile last one was from last night cvs |
| 23:34:25 | iLLf8d | two.bzflag.org |
| 23:34:26 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 23:59:09 | scanline | is away: food-like substances, i think |