| 00:00:06 | MrApathyCream | but after awhile my textures start disappearing |
| 00:00:18 | MrApathyCream | The result, i get semi-invisible tanks |
| 00:00:24 | Chestal | 1.8 works fine with hardware rendering now |
| 00:00:36 | Chestal | thogu hI wasn't able to switch tetxure setting son-the-fly |
| 00:00:47 | Chestal | i.e. I coudl change them, but it didn't make a difference |
| 00:01:00 | Chestal | onyl no textures<-> any other texture setting did |
| 00:01:22 | MrApathyCream | has left the building [XXXX] |
| 00:01:49 | crs23 | Chestal: i didn't quite follow that last bit |
| 00:02:02 | Chestal | fahr ich halt erstmal 16bit |
| 00:02:03 | Chestal | oops |
| 00:02:29 | Chestal | crs23: when I change the texture settings, it maks no difference |
| 00:02:42 | Chestal | crs23: i.e. nearest loksk the same as linear bilinear |
| 00:02:56 | Chestal | crs23: 'no tetxures' switche stetxures off, though |
| 00:03:36 | crs23 | ok. that's odd. does everything look like nearest or linearmipmaplinear or something else? |
| 00:03:53 | Chestal | before relaucnhign I had set it to 'nearest' first, it looks like texture changes do not take effect untl restart |
| 00:04:23 | Chestal | so when I start with nearest, I'm stuck with it. If I switch to linear, nothign changes. When I exit and restart I have linear |
| 00:04:40 | Chestal | lightng isn't enabled yet, is it? |
| 00:05:12 | crs23 | lighting works. if you turn it and texturing off, you should get the v1.7 look when it had lighting and textures off |
| 00:05:48 | captain_proton | crs23: it didn't look like shots acted as light emitters? |
| 00:05:52 | Chestal | so, shots should illuminate walls? |
| 00:06:20 | crs23 | oh, sorry, i misunderstood. no only sun/moon lighting of buildings and tanks works. |
| 00:09:05 | crs23 | "dynamic lights" will come later |
| 00:10:17 | Chestal | shots as light sources is the one thing I can enable with 1.7 and software rendering, it doesn't slow it down |
| 00:11:26 | crs23 | unfortunately, it required meshing surfaces. that's much harder to achieve with model files. |
| 00:12:08 | captain_proton | we should add to the model format to allow meshes |
| 00:13:39 | crs23 | captain_proton: maybe. but the lighting uses dynamic meshing based on the distance to local lights, which is different than simply having meshes. |
| 00:15:02 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:32:10 | Chestal | when I do /lagstats, server doesn't seem to respodn anymore, I have to reconnect |
| 00:33:31 | captain_proton | wb crs23 |
| 00:33:59 | crs23 | hi. stupid gaim or dsl keeps losing my connection, but i'm not notified. |
| 00:34:43 | captain_proton | why are you using gaim for irc? there are better clients... |
| 00:35:04 | crs23 | such as? i'm new to chat. |
| 00:35:11 | captain_proton | i like xchat myself |
| 00:35:40 | crs23 | k. i'll try it out sometime. |
| 00:35:50 | Chestal | ircii rules :-) |
| 01:38:36 | MrApathyCream | connection problems? heh |
| 01:38:50 | crs | yeah, trying new clients |
| 01:39:13 | MrApathyCream | any work you want to farm out, sitting here twiddling thumbs |
| 01:40:01 | crs | hmm, i guess i should make a list. there's sorta a list at the end of DEVINFO. |
| 01:40:59 | crs | one thing not there is a way to reload the view and menu config files at runtime |
| 01:41:08 | crs | that'd be good during development |
| 01:43:48 | MrApathyCream | reading DEVINFO |
| 01:46:52 | captain_proton | boulder potato chips makes an habanero flavor! woohooo! |
| 01:49:37 | captain_proton | anybody alive? |
| 01:49:37 | BZFlag | wow, crs lost his 23 |
| 01:49:41 | captain_proton | ahh yes =) |
| 01:49:54 | captain_proton | BZFlag: can we -please- change the default data dir in cvs to /usr/share/bzflag ? |
| 01:51:04 | crs | i'm experimenting with new clients. musta lost it somewhere. |
| 01:51:34 | captain_proton | tries to think of something to do |
| 01:51:36 | crs | the only problem i have with /usr/share/bzflag is needing to install bzflag to use it |
| 01:51:48 | captain_proton | crs: just the default |
| 01:52:14 | captain_proton | right now is uses something in the old X11 root |
| 01:53:20 | crs | ah, that'd be the INSTALL_DATA_DIR directory. we can change that i think. |
| 01:53:39 | BZFlag | captain_proton: I'm up for that, sure. |
| 01:55:32 | captain_proton | someone give me something to do - i'm not in the mood to start writing a particle system |
| 01:56:00 | crs | how about making animated geometry for flags? |
| 01:56:16 | captain_proton | what exactly would be involved in that? |
| 01:56:26 | crs | first write a modeller :-) |
| 01:56:39 | BZFlag | what about in Make-common? it's /usr/local/lib/bzflag now. |
| 01:56:47 | crs | seriously, you'd have to make the vertices for the keyframe for a flag waving in the breeze |
| 01:57:04 | crs | make that keyframes |
| 01:57:21 | BZFlag | captain_proton: review and contribute to protocol.txt or start some mail list conversations on the FIXME items there or in the source. |
| 01:57:34 | crs | BZFlag: yeah, i think that's it |
| 01:58:06 | BZFlag | it? I mean should Make-common be reset to /usr/share/bzflag as well? I vote yes. |
| 01:58:45 | captain_proton | i think everything should use /usr/share/bzflag =) |
| 01:58:46 | crs | isn't that the only place? i vote yes too |
| 01:58:55 | BZFlag | ok, changing all places... |
| 01:59:01 | MrApathyCream | capn: Doesn't world file still need to go XML? seems like your area |
| 01:59:05 | crs | BZFlag: wait, what are all the places? |
| 01:59:28 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: good point ;) |
| 01:59:40 | MrApathyCream | capn: would be cool to use entities to define world sup-parts |
| 01:59:46 | MrApathyCream | capn: to be wrapped in group transforms |
| 01:59:56 | MrApathyCream | c/sup/sub/ |
| 02:00:14 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: a group element wouldn't be difficult |
| 02:00:29 | crs | there's a <ref id="id-name"> already to include a previously defined node |
| 02:00:50 | MrApathyCream | agreed with independent rotate/translate |
| 02:00:56 | MrApathyCream | for group (as a multipler) |
| 02:01:20 | MrApathyCream | can steal code from patch on sourceforge |
| 02:01:43 | crs | hang on there. the world files will need some rethinking. |
| 02:02:03 | MrApathyCream | crs: Does that previously defined node get added, or can you just name it, for later use. |
| 02:02:19 | captain_proton | has done lots of thinking about worlds in xml |
| 02:02:35 | crs | it gets added but you can stick it in a choice node that chooses no children |
| 02:02:51 | captain_proton | what exactly -is- a choice node? |
| 02:02:58 | MrApathyCream | has some research to do |
| 02:03:18 | crs | a choice node lets you traverse your children using a bitmask |
| 02:03:26 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:03:52 | crs | i'm using it now to choose clouds or no clouds depending on whether blending is on, for example |
| 02:04:02 | BZFlag | ok, where should the bin live? debian is /usr/games/bzflag at present. |
| 02:04:09 | crs | world files must describe geometry and obstacles and they must become separate things |
| 02:04:30 | MrApathyCream | how 'bout flags, any sense in adding them to world? |
| 02:04:32 | crs | BZFlag: i think it depends on the OS |
| 02:04:34 | BZFlag | some are /usr/bin/ some are /usr/X11R6/bin etc. |
| 02:04:39 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: flag zones ;) |
| 02:04:49 | captain_proton | i like /usr/bin myself |
| 02:04:52 | crs | i think both flags and flag zones |
| 02:04:57 | MrApathyCream | Some flags would tolerate being added even with old clients |
| 02:05:07 | MrApathyCream | for instance flags that just moved your tank differently |
| 02:05:19 | MrApathyCream | Would be nice to be able to add them, and survive version differences |
| 02:05:29 | BZFlag | crs: all the places, are Make-common, configs/linux-config, package/rpm/spec, similar for sgi, etc. |
| 02:05:44 | MrApathyCream | Of course old clients couldn't use them.... but might encourage them to upgrade |
| 02:06:03 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: they won't be able to connect at all using old clients |
| 02:06:13 | MrApathyCream | I mean old 1.8 clients :) |
| 02:06:15 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: with this release it doesn't make sense to think about backwards compatibility |
| 02:06:18 | captain_proton | heh |
| 02:06:31 | MrApathyCream | If 1.8 is released without, a special movement flag |
| 02:06:39 | MrApathyCream | then we add a special movement flag in 1.8.1 |
| 02:06:49 | crs | BZFlag: oh yes. perhaps it should be removed from Make-common and only be in platform configs. |
| 02:06:50 | MrApathyCream | the old 1.8 client should be able to exist with this new flag |
| 02:06:56 | MrApathyCream | They can't use it, but others could |
| 02:07:10 | MrApathyCream | If they picked it up, it would act like a dud-flag |
| 02:07:26 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: thats what the whole flag negotiation thing at the beginning is for |
| 02:07:57 | BZFlag | I'm looking at converting to automake/autoconf in 1.8, thoughts crs? |
| 02:08:25 | captain_proton | BZFlag: thats a great idea, but its a pain in the ass to start - once its been done its easy to maintain |
| 02:08:27 | crs | woo hoo! |
| 02:08:50 | BZFlag | it means a config.h that is autocreated, and win and mac would likely need a static config.h they they use. |
| 02:09:12 | crs | we'd include config.h in common.h then? |
| 02:09:20 | BZFlag | but it might be possible to get cygwin to build bzflag for windows if we go that route. ;-) |
| 02:09:27 | crs | heh |
| 02:09:35 | BZFlag | yes, config.h should be the first include everywhere. |
| 02:09:36 | captain_proton | yeah - the current build method for windows is sucky |
| 02:09:50 | MrApathyCream | i like it just fine, actually |
| 02:10:10 | crs | what's wrong with it captain_proton? |
| 02:12:38 | BZFlag | crs is having grief. |
| 02:12:45 | | It's great to be back. I missed this place! |
| 02:12:45 | BZFlag | ibot: wb |
| 02:12:53 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 02:13:15 | | crs23 is nothing but an impertinent ooze of tickle-brained pond scum. |
| 02:13:15 | BZFlag | ibot: insult crs23 |
| 02:13:21 | BZFlag | jk |
| 02:13:23 | MrApathyCream | manic |
| 02:13:30 | crs23 | got disconnected again. fixed my username. |
| 02:13:44 | BZFlag | use /nick to change on the fly. |
| 02:13:54 | not-crs23 | heh |
| 02:14:15 | crs23 | so much to learn... |
| 02:14:26 | MrApathyCream | irc question, if i get bounced from irc, without proper close down, i can't get back in for several minutes |
| 02:14:42 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: the server still thinks your nick is in use. |
| 02:14:49 | MrApathyCream | right, anyway around that? |
| 02:15:10 | captain_proton | crs23: looks like you changed to two-spaces in the xml files? |
| 02:15:11 | BZFlag | change your nick and you can reconnect. talk to nickserv to register a nick, then you can ghost someone. |
| 02:15:44 | MrApathyCream | capn: don't need spaces it's a hoax |
| 02:15:53 | BZFlag | ie: if there is a person on with BZFlag as the nick, they get kicked by nickserv. if an old session of mine is here, I can reconnect with another nick, tell nickserv to kill the old one using ghost. |
| 02:16:02 | crs23 | captain_proton: nah, just forgot to convert them to tabs |
| 02:16:14 | captain_proton | crs23: well gee... =| |
| 02:16:16 | MrApathyCream | hmm, i don't think i can reconnect with another nick |
| 02:16:29 | MrApathyCream | when i do, it still complains about me being MrApathyCream |
| 02:16:42 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: your using xchat. it has 3 defaults in the preferences. |
| 02:16:45 | BZFlag | add 2 more. ;-) |
| 02:17:10 | | a balm that protects against the idiocy of middle management. |
| 02:17:10 | MrApathyCream | ibot, what is apathy cream? |
| 02:17:11 | MrApathyCream1111111111111 | works for me. |
| 02:17:36 | MrApathyCream | ok, will try next time |
| 02:18:11 | MrApathyCream1111111111111 | do X-Chat --> Server list and there are 3 boxes at the top. |
| 02:18:24 | MrApathyCream1111111111111 | xchat will auto try the next ones if the first is not allowed. |
| 02:18:40 | MrApathyCream | Yup, second is /\/\r_4p47hy_(r34/\/\, third is M.A.C. |
| 02:18:43 | Russ|werk | whats with the MrApathyCream1111111....? |
| 02:19:03 | MrApathyCream | but it still thinks I'm just 'MrApathyCream' |
| 02:20:08 | MrApathyCream | had better go bone up on new bz-code... be back later |
| 02:23:34 | captain_proton | do i have write access to cvs? |
| 02:23:41 | | '/\/\r_4p47hy_(r34/\/\' is 90.71% lame, BZFlag |
| 02:23:41 | BZFlag | ibot nickometer /\/\r_4p47hy_(r34/\/\ |
| 02:23:59 | vogon_jeltz | hmm |
| 02:24:08 | vogon_jeltz | did you guys ever fix the DoS in the nickometer? |
| 02:24:31 | BZFlag | vogon_jeltz: nope. got an exact line that causes it handy? I could take a minute and fix it. |
| 02:24:36 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 02:24:38 | vogon_jeltz | no clue :P |
| 02:24:45 | vogon_jeltz | I don't have the infobot source on this box |
| 02:24:46 | BZFlag | try it on lxrbot =) |
| 02:24:58 | BZFlag | so I mean an nickometer request. |
| 02:25:54 | | '!@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>,./|\QwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNm' is 98.45% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 02:25:54 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, nickometer !@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>?,./|\QwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNm |
| 02:26:07 | | '!@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>,./|\QwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNmA$^%HertADFTA345@#B234jl'234bjaw342/3514#@BK@$5bWMAa/3$32$MB@#b:QK%!#$%KN!#$>N%' is 98.81% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 02:26:07 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, nickometer !@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>?,./|\QwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNmA$^%HertADFTA345@#B234jl'234bjaw342/3514#@BK@$5bWMAa/3$32$MB@#b:QK%!#$%KN!#$>N% |
| 02:26:11 | vogon_jeltz | hmm |
| 02:26:17 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: you're forgetting the patters |
| 02:26:35 | | '!@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>,./|\QwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNmA$^%HertADFTA345@#B234jl'234bjaw34!%$%13$%MQWEN%araN<>$23?@$@#14%N<$^<NQR%a#$I@#$YUq45N<$%az%NAW<N%@#42/3514#@BK@$5bWMAa/3$32$MB@#b:QK%!#$%KN!#$>N%' is 98.93% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 02:26:35 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, nickometer !@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>?,./|\QwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNmA$^%HertADFTA345@#B234jl'234bjaw34!%$%13$%MQWEN%araN<>$23?@$@#14%N<$^<NQR%a#$I@#$YUq45N<$%az%NAW<N%@#42/3514#@BK@$5bWMAa/3$32$MB@#b:QK%!#$%KN!#$>N% |
| 02:26:41 | | '-<>--<<<{{l33t-h4x0r}}>>>--<>-' is 97.21% lame, captain_proton |
| 02:26:41 | captain_proton | ibot, nickometer -<>--<<<{{l33t-h4x0r}}>>>--<>- |
| 02:26:46 | vogon_jeltz | ehehe |
| 02:26:58 | | '-<>--<<<{{[[|l33t-h4x0r|]]}}>>>--<>-' is 97.87% lame, captain_proton |
| 02:26:58 | captain_proton | ibot, nickometer -<>--<<<{{[[|l33t-h4x0r|]]}}>>>--<>- |
| 02:27:12 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 02:27:15 | captain_proton | thats enough for me |
| 02:27:45 | | '!@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>,./|\69dearthdarkfuckn1ten1ghtQwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNmA$^%HertADFTA345@#B234jl'234bjaw34!%$%13$%MQWEN%araN<>$23?@$@#14%N<$^<NQR%a#$I@#$YUq45N<$%az%NAW<N%@#42/3514#@BK@$5bWMAa/3$32$MB@#b:QK%!#$%KN!#$>N%' is 98.96% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 02:27:45 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, nickometer !@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>?,./|\69dearthdarkfuckn1ten1ghtQwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNmA$^%HertADFTA345@#B234jl'234bjaw34!%$%13$%MQWEN%araN<>$23?@$@#14%N<$^<NQR%a#$I@#$YUq45N<$%az%NAW<N%@#42/3514#@BK@$5bWMAa/3$32$MB@#b:QK%!#$%KN!#$>N% |
| 02:28:21 | | '!@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>,./|\691ordpronwarezxxe1ite1eet1|zerdearthdarkfuckn1ten1ghtQwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNmA$^%HertADFTA345@#B234jl'234bjaw34!%$%13$%MQWEN%araN<>$23?@$@#14%N<$^<NQR%a#$I@#$YUq45N<$%az%NAW<N%@#42/3514#@BK@$5bWMAa/3$32$MB@#b:QK%!#$%KN!#$>N%' is 98.99% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 02:28:21 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, nickometer !@#$%^&*()1234567890-=_+{}[];':"<>?,./|\691ordpronwarezxxe1ite1eet1|zerdearthdarkfuckn1ten1ghtQwErTyUiOpAsDfGhJkLzXcVbNmA$^%HertADFTA345@#B234jl'234bjaw34!%$%13$%MQWEN%araN<>$23?@$@#14%N<$^<NQR%a#$I@#$YUq45N<$%az%NAW<N%@#42/3514#@BK@$5bWMAa/3$32$MB@#b:QK%!#$%KN!#$>N% |
| 02:28:31 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: care to continue that in a PM? |
| 02:28:35 | vogon_jeltz | sure |
| 02:37:33 | captain_proton | when some of these xml files are indented with tabs they look goofy |
| 02:39:38 | captain_proton | i ask again: |
| 02:39:44 | captain_proton | do i have write access to current cvs? |
| 02:40:00 | crs23 | tim? |
| 02:40:29 | crs23 | i don't think you do, but tim is the man who knows for sure. |
| 02:42:51 | captain_proton | going through and making all the .bz(c|g) files use tabs/correct xml |
| 02:42:51 | BZFlag | write for who? |
| 02:43:32 | BZFlag | captain_proton: what's your sf nick? |
| 02:43:42 | captain_proton | davidtrowbridge |
| 02:43:54 | BZFlag | http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=3248 |
| 02:44:06 | BZFlag | captain_proton: then you do. |
| 02:44:27 | captain_proton | nifty =) |
| 02:44:31 | BZFlag | you need to use the developer checkout on: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3248 to get write access. |
| 02:44:52 | BZFlag | ie: developername, not anonymous. |
| 02:45:57 | BZFlag | crs23: everyone on that list has write access, but my policy has been to have folks only apply obvious patches etc. features should go in the sf patches tree. |
| 02:46:24 | BZFlag | this policy can be relaxed a lot for 1.8 hacking till we cut a release. |
| 02:46:25 | crs23 | okay. this'll be much easier for v1.8 now |
| 02:46:41 | BZFlag | so the current is, don't commit any changes that break the tree. ;-) |
| 02:46:53 | crs23 | good rule. |
| 02:47:01 | captain_proton | shall i commit my console? |
| 02:47:05 | BZFlag | we can always revert commits if needed. |
| 02:47:16 | BZFlag | captain_proton: up to crs, and he did the old one. |
| 02:47:26 | BZFlag | er "as he did" ... ;-) |
| 02:47:50 | BZFlag | feel free to check stuff like that into misc/ or someplace while it's in testing. |
| 02:48:02 | BZFlag | you will note that hix.bzw is there. |
| 02:48:12 | BZFlag | documentation and testing purposes. |
| 02:48:19 | crs23 | may i suggest you add it in a way that keeps the old one but makes your's the default |
| 02:48:33 | BZFlag | yes, sounds good. |
| 02:48:58 | BZFlag | course we can always get the old one from earlier cvs too. |
| 02:49:14 | crs23 | i want to encourage experimentation and let the marketplace decide. |
| 02:49:24 | BZFlag | agreed |
| 02:49:26 | captain_proton | so just rename it purdyconsole.bzg or something and cvs add it? |
| 02:49:53 | captain_proton | =) |
| 02:49:57 | BZFlag | what is needed to use an alternate named console? |
| 02:49:57 | crs23 | also modify view.bzc to use it but maybe duplicate the console section with an <if> using a different variable |
| 02:50:02 | BZFlag | just an edit in view? |
| 02:50:10 | crs23 | BZFlag: yes |
| 02:50:28 | BZFlag | right, that's where I was going. make view reference both via a variable. |
| 02:50:40 | crs23 | captain_proton: make your console use the current name so everyone sees it |
| 02:51:13 | BZFlag | or yours on a new name, but make the new name the default. |
| 02:51:38 | crs23 | it's easier my way because displayConsole is hooked up to the ~ key |
| 02:52:07 | BZFlag | makes sense. |
| 02:52:10 | crs23 | captain_proton: you should also move the logo viewport into the console viewport unless you wan the logo above the messages |
| 02:52:45 | crs23 | i just committed changes to do stippling better. i also fixed the shockwave. |
| 02:53:10 | captain_proton | crs23: its in the 'if displayConsole' - shouldn't be a problem i don't think |
| 02:54:08 | crs23 | but the way you have it the logo will hide messages under it. if that's what you want then okay. |
| 02:54:52 | captain_proton | sure - why not? ;) |
| 02:55:50 | captain_proton | it blends pretty that way |
| 02:55:55 | BZFlag | so thought on commiting my rearview ? |
| 02:56:29 | crs23 | captain_proton: just put it before the message view. it'll still blend nice and won't blend over messages. |
| 02:56:52 | BZFlag | <if name="displayRadar"> |
| 02:56:52 | BZFlag | - <viewport x=4% y=4% w=15% h=1x> |
| 02:56:52 | BZFlag | + <viewport x=0 y=0 w=1x h=50%> |
| 02:57:02 | BZFlag | I use a larger radar window. and... |
| 02:57:10 | BZFlag | - <message buffer="messages" timeout=5 input=yes shadow=yes/> |
| 02:57:11 | BZFlag | + <message buffer="messages" timeout=60 input=yes shadow=yes/> |
| 02:57:17 | BZFlag | a larger msg timout. |
| 02:57:41 | BZFlag | though I want the msgs some place other than the scoreboard. |
| 02:57:55 | crs23 | i think that's too big and too long. guess we'll have to thumbwrestle |
| 02:57:59 | captain_proton | crs23: something like this:? |
| 02:58:01 | crs23 | agreed about the scoreboard |
| 02:58:06 | captain_proton | <viewport x="0%" y="40%" w="100%" h="60%"> |
| 02:58:06 | captain_proton | <model filename="console.bzg" /> |
| 02:58:06 | captain_proton | <align h="left" v="top" /> |
| 02:58:06 | captain_proton | <font name="fixed" size="7p" /> |
| 02:58:06 | captain_proton | <color value="black" shift="1.0 0.5 0.0" /> |
| 02:58:07 | captain_proton | <viewport x="-1p" y="-1p" w="220p" h="48p"> |
| 02:58:09 | captain_proton | <model filename="logo.bzg" /> |
| 02:58:11 | captain_proton | </viewport> |
| 02:58:13 | captain_proton | <message buffer="console" input="yes" shadow="yes" /> |
| 02:58:15 | captain_proton | </viewport> |
| 02:58:18 | crs23 | exactly. |
| 02:58:38 | captain_proton | i' |
| 02:59:00 | captain_proton | i'll finish going through doing 'cleanup' then update cvs with my new data stuffs |
| 02:59:39 | crs23 | dinner time for me. see ya. |
| 02:59:52 | BZFlag | crs23: what about rear view? |
| 03:00:13 | BZFlag | it's easy, but do we want folks doing it? |
| 03:00:21 | crs23 | i'll fix that tomorrow. i'll separate the x and y fields-of-view. |
| 03:00:46 | crs23 | oh. well, maybe not, but we'll be hard pressed to stop it. |
| 03:01:09 | BZFlag | ok, I think I'll commit it so folks can play. |
| 03:01:17 | BZFlag | we'll mirror it later. |
| 03:01:35 | crs23 | k |
| 03:01:47 | BZFlag | can speed be a variable? |
| 03:01:53 | BZFlag | as in in the database? |
| 03:03:16 | crs23 | yes, that's mentioned in DEVINFO, line 653 |
| 03:04:11 | crs23 | cya |
| 03:04:11 | BZFlag | ok, cool. |
| 03:06:44 | MrApathyCream | bzfls not in vc projects |
| 03:07:48 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: yeah, no biggie. I don't see anyone running another one. |
| 03:08:05 | BZFlag | specially not on windows. ;-) |
| 03:09:54 | BZFlag | I'd be happier if I could get a bounds checker working with bzflag. =( |
| 03:10:24 | MrApathyCream | It works, just reaaaaaaal slow |
| 03:11:57 | MrApathyCream | Hey, when I do cvs up -PdA My main local directory is A, not bzflag, is that expected? |
| 03:22:04 | BZFlag | no. |
| 03:22:31 | BZFlag | cvs -PdA up might do that. |
| 03:23:13 | BZFlag | or cvs -dA co bzflag |
| 03:23:33 | captain_proton | is my server in the 1.8 list? |
| 03:23:52 | MrApathyCream | not for me |
| 03:24:04 | captain_proton | is it in the 1.7 list? ;) |
| 03:24:08 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 03:24:24 | captain_proton | rofl |
| 03:24:28 | captain_proton | BZFlag: that must be fixed |
| 03:25:05 | captain_proton | turns up the bass on his speakers |
| 03:25:27 | BZFlag | one.bzflag.org is just a base 1.8 server. |
| 03:25:36 | captain_proton | BZFlag: so is 128.138.3.43:5156 |
| 03:25:41 | captain_proton | yet it shows up in the list for 1.7 |
| 03:25:42 | BZFlag | if you have the current source, it should be 1.8 |
| 03:25:52 | captain_proton | this song is much much too good to listen to with a tinny sound =) |
| 03:25:55 | BZFlag | then your build is broken. |
| 03:26:05 | BZFlag | os? |
| 03:26:34 | captain_proton | leenoox |
| 03:26:36 | BZFlag | got to head home. do a make clean;cvs up -PdA;make and then try. |
| 03:27:00 | BZFlag | make sure you are running bin/bzfs not bzfs off the path. ;-) |
| 03:27:08 | captain_proton | ahh - just older code |
| 03:29:27 | captain_proton | ugh i don't like how SW looks |
| 03:29:35 | captain_proton | it should be animated like it is in 1.7 |
| 03:30:07 | vogon_jeltz | wants to try out 1.8 |
| 03:34:47 | captain_proton | blah |
| 03:35:15 | vogon_jeltz | yo |
| 03:35:20 | vogon_jeltz | tries out 1.8 |
| 03:35:32 | vogon_jeltz | I've been bored lately, so I may throw my hat back into the ring |
| 03:35:49 | MrApathyCream | please wipe off the sweat, first. |
| 03:35:59 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 03:43:27 | vogon_jeltz | goes and gets his RedHat hat |
| 03:46:38 | vogon_jeltz | err |
| 03:55:39 | vogon_jeltz | guys, the new version looks great :) |
| 03:55:53 | captain_proton | yep |
| 03:56:11 | vogon_jeltz | decides to fiddle with the UI for a couple minutes |
| 03:56:46 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: move the message entry and buffer away from the score box |
| 03:57:04 | vogon_jeltz | 'k |
| 03:57:17 | vogon_jeltz | and I'm going to move the temporary pickup name next to the inner reticle |
| 03:57:42 | captain_proton | i'm going to commit my console soon |
| 04:53:35 | captain_proton | console is in cvs |
| 05:07:50 | qubit | captain_proton: little fyi, your circular decks wreaks havok on my graphics card, jumpy as hell |
| 05:08:02 | vogon_jeltz | that's not his map |
| 05:08:04 | captain_proton | qubit: yeah - thats because its huge |
| 05:08:16 | captain_proton | perhaps you should upgrade your card? ;) |
| 05:08:22 | qubit | geforce2mx |
| 05:08:31 | captain_proton | yeah mx is yicky |
| 05:08:35 | captain_proton | =) |
| 05:08:39 | captain_proton | oh well |
| 05:08:44 | qubit | mmm, mayve if i build up a cash supply again |
| 05:08:49 | captain_proton | i'm not really paying attention to that or any other 1.7 servers anymore |
| 05:22:25 | qubit | is going to go play some bzflag |
| 05:22:45 | captain_proton | is bored |
| 05:23:05 | vogon_jeltz | ever Googlewhacked? |
| 05:23:15 | captain_proton | maybe...what is it? |
| 05:23:40 | vogon_jeltz | you run 2-word searches on Google, until you find one where it only returns one result |
| 05:24:03 | captain_proton | hmmm =) |
| 05:24:15 | vogon_jeltz | i.e., "entropic zymurgy", "necrotizing telekinesis", "antediluvian spirochetes", "phosphorescent sousaphone"... |
| 05:25:14 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:25:20 | captain_proton | i found a 2-worder with 2 results... |
| 05:25:27 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.googlewhack.com |
| 05:27:34 | captain_proton | 'bzflag erotica' is 2 results ;) |
| 05:27:39 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 05:27:46 | vogon_jeltz | both words have to be in the dictionary |
| 05:27:52 | captain_proton | bah |
| 06:35:01 | vogon_jeltz | is away: TV |
| 06:58:29 | captain_proton | brbs |
| 06:59:32 | crs23 | captain_proton, did you forget to cvs add logo.bzg and logo.rgb? |
| 07:01:06 | captain_proton | ahh...that i did - good catch |
| 07:02:19 | captain_proton | try now |
| 07:04:43 | crs23 | all better. |
| 07:05:37 | captain_proton | starts reading an internet draft |
| 07:09:59 | captain_proton | that was useless... |
| 07:10:26 | crs23 | which draft? |
| 07:10:44 | captain_proton | http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-math-quant-new-para-redefi-bin-math-01.txt |
| 07:11:03 | crs23 | hmm, what's that about? |
| 07:11:13 | captain_proton | redefining binary arithmetic =/ |
| 07:11:20 | crs23 | heh |
| 07:11:39 | crs23 | black is white, night is day, 0 is 1! |
| 07:11:51 | captain_proton | yet another one of the ITU members trying to proove the stupidity of the IETF's sub-ip working group |
| 07:12:17 | captain_proton | last one of these my dad sent me was a draft on distributing electricity over IP |
| 07:12:32 | crs23 | ha! |
| 07:12:43 | crs23 | reminds me of a dilbert |
| 07:14:33 | captain_proton | http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bala-mplamps-04.txt |
| 07:14:43 | captain_proton | there ya go |
| 07:14:47 | captain_proton | that one is actually really funny |
| 07:15:19 | captain_proton | While reading this document, at various points the readers may have the |
| 07:15:19 | captain_proton | urge to ask questions like, "does this make sense?", "is this |
| 07:15:19 | captain_proton | feasible?," and "is the author sane?". The readers must have the |
| 07:15:19 | captain_proton | ability to suppress such questions and read on. Other than this, no |
| 07:15:19 | captain_proton | specific technical background is required to read this document. In |
| 07:15:20 | captain_proton | certain cases (present document included), it may be REQUIRED that |
| 07:15:22 | captain_proton | readers have no specific technical background. |
| 13:42:03 | Chestal | uh, this bright light |
| 13:49:50 | Chestal | uhoh, I made a mistake |
| 15:40:18 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 09:05:13) |
| 17:40:34 | Chestal | laggers again, oh my |
| 21:07:21 | file | hrms |
| 22:04:08 | captain_proton | comes back |
| 23:03:01 | captain_proton | blah |
| 23:22:28 | captain_proton | argg |
| 23:22:31 | captain_proton | has a question for crs |
| 23:33:20 | Chestal | re |