| 00:42:42 | vogon_jeltz | is away: 0xf00d |
| 00:56:37 | iLLf8d | good evening all |
| 01:57:23 | vogon_jeltz | is away: killing virtual people in a virtual world with a virtual gun to release real anxiety and real anger |
| 02:26:42 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:29:20) |
| 02:59:34 | vogon_jeltz | is away: lying down for a while |
| 03:30:11 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:30:37) |
| 05:16:07 | vogon_jeltz | is away: AFK |
| 05:18:22 | vogon_jeltz | is away: AFK: if you need something, /msg it |
| 07:16:42 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 07:16:50 | iLLf8d | anyone know how to change mouse settings in x? |
| 07:17:01 | iLLf8d | seems I can't spin quite as fast as I used to be able too |
| 07:17:13 | iLLf8d | got an ms optical mouse |
| 08:27:02 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 03:08:41) |
| 08:29:39 | MrApathyCream | hey Crazy 1.8 guy |
| 08:34:22 | captain_proton | hi apathy |
| 08:36:53 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 08:37:10 | MrApathyCream | decks lost some steam w/o flags |
| 08:37:17 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 08:37:20 | captain_proton | but its more fun |
| 08:38:01 | MrApathyCream | should add lots of stealths, nothing else |
| 08:39:52 | MrApathyCream | anybody doin anything on 1.8? |
| 08:40:05 | captain_proton | not atm |
| 08:41:58 | captain_proton | we ought to check in crs' code to HEAD and get people hacking at that |
| 08:43:08 | MrApathyCream | 'cept network stuff ought to be primal focus |
| 08:46:02 | MrApathyCream | I still think refactoring 1.7e5 is the way to go. |
| 08:46:17 | MrApathyCream | We will get old waiting for someone to 'start' 1.8 otherwise |
| 08:46:52 | MrApathyCream | Perhaps not a concern for you, but Parkinson's is just around corner for me.... |
| 08:47:01 | captain_proton | heh |
| 08:47:04 | MrApathyCream | being crusty and all. |
| 08:47:16 | captain_proton | wow you *are* crotchety |
| 08:47:30 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 08:47:50 | MrApathyCream | Probably won't affect my play |
| 09:18:01 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: you here? |
| 09:51:00 | iLLf8d | theres some really high speed field at 24.170.72.X |
| 09:51:02 | iLLf8d | I forget the last number |
| 09:51:06 | iLLf8d | it must be hacked |
| 09:51:09 | iLLf8d | it shows in the list tho |
| 09:51:23 | iLLf8d | and flags show on tanks too |
| 09:51:29 | iLLf8d | or at least on theirs |
| 09:51:34 | iLLf8d | dunno if it showed on mine or not |
| 09:51:36 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: i'll take a look |
| 09:51:48 | iLLf8d | yeah high speed is really fast |
| 09:51:50 | iLLf8d | the flag I mean |
| 09:51:52 | captain_proton | thats not a server hack |
| 09:51:56 | iLLf8d | lag is bad too |
| 09:51:57 | captain_proton | it just has lots of high speed flags |
| 09:52:05 | iLLf8d | it pretty fast |
| 09:52:19 | iLLf8d | i've played all high speed before |
| 09:52:24 | iLLf8d | never seemed that fast before |
| 09:52:33 | iLLf8d | and the white flags on tanks? |
| 09:52:46 | captain_proton | those would be the high speed flags |
| 09:52:47 | iLLf8d | must be a patch huh |
| 09:53:12 | iLLf8d | too fast for my taste |
| 09:53:26 | iLLf8d | I was doing well... just too much time on radar and not enough talking in between |
| 09:53:28 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 09:56:56 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 09:57:03 | iLLf8d | gotta crash |
| 09:57:07 | iLLf8d | cya tomorrow |
| 12:11:29 | RealRobert | m |
| 18:53:55 | vogon_jeltz | is away: o/~ If I had a million dollars... o/~ |
| 19:24:48 | RealRobert | could someone with a little knowledge please look at the following posting and comment on it: |
| 19:24:48 | RealRobert | http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=643351&forum_id=9554 |
| 19:27:39 | captain_proton | sorry i can't help - i use nvidia cards, not ATI |
| 19:29:31 | Chestal | RealRobert: I amusing a Matrox G400 and had some problems with bzflag on win98 |
| 19:29:42 | Chestal | but they are gone since my last driver update |
| 19:30:08 | RealRobert | Chestal: was that the same rendering errors? |
| 19:30:12 | captain_proton | RealRobert: have you tried X 4.2? |
| 19:30:27 | RealRobert | captain_proton: no, it's not in Woody |
| 19:31:25 | captain_proton | RealRobert: perhaps you should |
| 19:32:24 | RealRobert | captain_proton: it's not even in Sid, wonder when it will be available as Debian packages, building from source is somethong I won't do for this |
| 19:32:48 | captain_proton | RealRobert: X is really quite easy to build - 'make World' followed by 'make install' |
| 19:33:00 | Chestal | RealRober: no, only the radar was rendered, both the main view and the message area was blank |
| 19:33:25 | RealRobert | Chestal: would've surprised me if it was similar |
| 19:33:27 | Chestal | wonders whether he should upgrade his Woody to Sid tonight |
| 19:33:51 | captain_proton | chuckles @ people who let thier distro restrict them |
| 19:34:09 | captain_proton | RealRobert: you might try asking in #dri |
| 19:35:05 | RealRobert | captain_proton: I could do it right before I do a fresh Woody install when it's released as stable, because it would fuck up a lot, just to see if it helps |
| 19:40:32 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:46:35) |
| 19:40:48 | captain_proton | hi vogon_jeltz |
| 19:40:52 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 19:41:01 | captain_proton | do you ever sleep? |
| 19:41:17 | vogon_jeltz | not since about midnight |
| 19:41:31 | captain_proton | how are you still alive? |
| 19:42:04 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 23:22:38 | jmhodges | um.. anyone else having bzflag segfault on them? |
| 23:23:00 | jmhodges | cmon laugh on the stupid newb that cant figure out his own problem :) |
| 23:31:21 | Chestal | jmhodges: what platform? |
| 23:31:31 | jmhodges | Linux |
| 23:31:35 | jmhodges | SGL |
| 23:31:43 | jmhodges | er.. Sorcerer GNU/Linux |
| 23:31:48 | jmhodges | so from the source code |
| 23:31:55 | Chestal | haven't heard of that platform., but anway |
| 23:32:01 | jmhodges | lol |
| 23:32:05 | Chestal | when does it dump core? on startup? |
| 23:32:06 | jmhodges | you should check it out |
| 23:32:25 | jmhodges | it doesnt dump core it just segfaults (or thats how i got it explained to me) |
| 23:32:29 | jmhodges | in the middle of a game |
| 23:32:43 | Chestal | hmm, 1.7e4? |
| 23:33:08 | jmhodges | let me check |
| 23:34:11 | jmhodges | 1.7e2 |
| 23:34:24 | jmhodges | damn.. they spell maintainer must not be keeping up to date |
| 23:34:28 | jmhodges | that pisses me off |
| 23:34:54 | jmhodges | ok are there any changes in the Make compile from e2 to e4? |
| 23:34:59 | Chestal | no |
| 23:35:11 | Chestal | basically e4 is onyl bug fixes and some minor new features |
| 23:35:17 | Chestal | but e2 shouldn't crash either |
| 23:35:31 | Chestal | are you using dri? |
| 23:35:34 | jmhodges | lol. |
| 23:35:52 | Chestal | the byflag client never crashed on me on Linux |
| 23:36:01 | Chestal | but I am using software rendering |
| 23:36:03 | jmhodges | well fuckity uck uck |
| 23:37:40 | jmhodges | ok well im using the Vvidia drivers and i dont think it uses dri |
| 23:38:30 | Chestal | but you're using accelerated GL? |
| 23:38:57 | Chestal | what's your g++ version? |
| 23:38:59 | jmhodges | Chestal: im sorry but im not sure.. |
| 23:39:10 | Chestal | jmhodges: is it fast with textures enabled? |
| 23:39:11 | jmhodges | 2.95.3 |
| 23:39:46 | jmhodges | Chestal: i cant remember if im using textures damn.. ill come back when i have more answers for you |
| 23:40:08 | Chestal | well, it's not that important |
| 23:40:20 | Chestal | actually, I do not really have a clue why it crashes for you |
| 23:40:24 | jmhodges | lol ok |
| 23:40:56 | Chestal | does it segfault frequently? |
| 23:41:15 | jmhodges | not frequently |
| 23:41:33 | jmhodges | but its happened 3 times in like 2 weeks |
| 23:42:03 | Chestal | well, depends on how much you play ;-) |
| 23:42:14 | jmhodges | :D true |
| 23:42:18 | Chestal | I have played a lot and am yet waiting for the first crash |
| 23:42:23 | Chestal | the server sometimes crashes, however |
| 23:42:31 | jmhodges | Chestal: what platform? |
| 23:42:37 | Chestal | but try E4 anyway when you can |
| 23:42:47 | Chestal | Debian Linux, Mesa software rendering |
| 23:42:52 | jmhodges | ah |
| 23:43:12 | Chestal | most importantly E4 fixes some nasty network bugs |
| 23:46:56 | jmhodges | check distrowatch.com and look to the right and slightly down at the hits list |
| 23:47:18 | jmhodges | then check out Sorcerer.. as a Deb guy you may REALLY like it ;) |
| 23:49:03 | Chestal | heh, I just installed a fresh Debian 4 days ago :-) |
| 23:49:11 | jmhodges | lol |
| 23:49:14 | jmhodges | ok |
| 23:49:35 | jmhodges | you apt-get freaks will die when you see the cast/gaze/grimoire/ setup we have in SGL |
| 23:49:50 | jmhodges | its like apt-get on fucking steriods :) |
| 23:50:05 | jmhodges | is away: food |
| 23:52:15 | iLLf8d | chestal I think sorcerer is the dist that compiles from source right? |
| 23:52:24 | iLLf8d | oops |
| 23:52:25 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 23:52:34 | iLLf8d | sorry scrolly buffer wasn't working heh |
| 23:52:38 | iLLf8d | that was from way back |
| 23:53:29 | iLLf8d | hey I like apt-get |
| 23:53:35 | iLLf8d | although I like freebsd ports better |
| 23:55:24 | Chestal | FreeBSD is nice |
| 23:55:35 | Chestal | but I'm stil lusing Linux as I got that at work |
| 23:55:41 | Chestal | easier to use the same system |
| 23:55:57 | Chestal | wow, this Kumppa screensaver is hypnotizing |
| 23:57:19 | iLLf8d | I never figured out screen savers in linux |
| 23:57:24 | iLLf8d | they tough to setup? |