| 00:26:33 | captain_proton | wants the other half of crs' patch |
| 01:51:10 | iLLf8d | lo |
| 02:04:00 | BZFlag | how'd your world go? anyone join? I tried but it was gone. can't get there from here (work) cause of the fw. |
| 02:09:39 | iLLf8d | great |
| 02:09:48 | iLLf8d | do you have access to a server? |
| 02:09:57 | iLLf8d | i'll send it to you |
| 02:10:04 | iLLf8d | its kinda an expert only field |
| 02:10:12 | iLLf8d | I got a feeling i'll get creamed on it |
| 02:10:25 | iLLf8d | I need someone to serve it for a bit |
| 02:12:37 | iLLf8d | its quite unique |
| 02:13:08 | iLLf8d | wishes the bzcommunity was cooler |
| 02:13:33 | iLLf8d | everyones nasty or most people |
| 02:13:37 | iLLf8d | no reason for that |
| 02:13:53 | iLLf8d | ordered cable today tho |
| 02:14:00 | iLLf8d | will serve my own worlds |
| 02:14:10 | iLLf8d | my adsl went up anyway |
| 02:16:42 | BZFlag | I can get to one and two, that's why they run on such odd port numbers. |
| 02:17:31 | BZFlag | email it to me and I'll try it out, or put it in the world files database on SF. |
| 02:17:42 | BZFlag | recalls that there is a new entry there he has not looked at yet. |
| 03:04:52 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 03:05:26 | iLLf8d | BZFlag: i'd put it there but i'm trying to keep my work outta powertippy peoples hands |
| 03:05:27 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 03:06:00 | iLLf8d | I gave one of my worlds to morph and all he did was abuse the people on his server bad mouth them and when they talked back he'd kick them |
| 03:06:21 | iLLf8d | he started to act up with me so I said dude I don't need to be here so I left and haven't ever gone back |
| 03:06:22 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 03:06:40 | iLLf8d | then he sent a few lackies in to ask me to convert one of my old maps to a newer format |
| 03:06:58 | iLLf8d | had no time for people on a powertrip heh |
| 03:07:33 | iLLf8d | gaming should be free of this bs |
| 03:09:22 | BZFlag | agreed |
| 03:09:45 | BZFlag | though with the 1.8 server cache maps will always be copyable. |
| 03:09:53 | iLLf8d | yeah... |
| 03:09:57 | iLLf8d | I figured |
| 03:10:30 | iLLf8d | I don't understand people like that at all |
| 03:10:38 | BZFlag | I think the cool thing will be to have custom map generators. Ie a perl script that does HiX random custom worlds. |
| 03:10:54 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 03:11:02 | iLLf8d | I was talking to proton about a terrain map gen |
| 03:11:04 | iLLf8d | like uhm |
| 03:11:27 | iLLf8d | ahve you seen those rectangles with all the little pins stuck between the glass |
| 03:11:38 | iLLf8d | you press your face or hand into and it pushes the pins out |
| 03:11:44 | iLLf8d | to form tha pattern |
| 03:14:00 | iLLf8d | what i'd like to figure out is why I can't connect to my server when anyone else is on it |
| 03:14:03 | iLLf8d | whats up with that =P |
| 03:19:10 | BZFlag | 1.7e5 from cvs? |
| 03:19:16 | BZFlag | that was a bug that just got fixed. |
| 03:19:21 | BZFlag | update from cvs |
| 03:19:59 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 03:20:12 | iLLf8d | I was thinking it might be my dns setup |
| 03:20:26 | iLLf8d | all I did was use /etc/hosts and made up a bogus local domain mame |
| 03:20:30 | iLLf8d | s/mame/name |
| 03:20:44 | iLLf8d | I do have a caching nameserver running too |
| 03:20:51 | iLLf8d | will update cvs tho |
| 03:20:51 | BZFlag | then use a -i 1.2.3.4 to force the ip address. |
| 03:20:52 | iLLf8d | ... |
| 03:21:07 | iLLf8d | yeah I use -i 192.168.0.3 |
| 03:21:22 | iLLf8d | i've got a hardware router too (netgear) may be another issue |
| 03:21:24 | BZFlag | yep, sounds like the cvs bug. compile a new server. |
| 03:21:28 | iLLf8d | not sure whats breaking down where |
| 03:21:37 | BZFlag | you forwarding through the router? |
| 03:21:43 | iLLf8d | yes/no |
| 03:21:45 | iLLf8d | yes I am |
| 03:21:50 | BZFlag | you using the new -p port0 -pr port1 syntax? |
| 03:21:56 | iLLf8d | but I have that box set as the default route for everything |
| 03:22:10 | iLLf8d | yeah I used -p 5155 and -pr -5156 |
| 03:22:15 | BZFlag | ah. that should work too. that's how rikers.org was setup. |
| 03:22:19 | iLLf8d | ok |
| 03:22:24 | iLLf8d | its a netgear router heh |
| 03:22:25 | iLLf8d | ok |
| 03:22:31 | iLLf8d | will cvs and rebuild |
| 03:22:57 | BZFlag | rikers.org now using -pr and working through my office fw as well as the cisco dsl port forwarding. |
| 03:23:05 | BZFlag | cool. gotta run. on later. |
| 03:23:08 | iLLf8d | cool |
| 03:23:12 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 03:23:18 | iLLf8d | thanks for the info |
| 03:23:20 | iLLf8d | oops he gone |
| 03:56:28 | c0ol | hi |
| 04:03:01 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 04:03:06 | iLLf8d | problem with the new code |
| 04:03:06 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 04:03:07 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 04:03:18 | iLLf8d | when i'm on as client and someone kills me while running the server |
| 04:03:22 | iLLf8d | they get booted |
| 04:03:26 | iLLf8d | says signing off |
| 04:03:30 | iLLf8d | they can shoot each other tho |
| 04:05:04 | iLLf8d | wasn't just one player either |
| 04:05:06 | iLLf8d | was a few |
| 04:05:32 | iLLf8d | and using an @sign doesn't work if thats how you're supposed to do observer mode |
| 04:34:23 | BZFlag | @ code was implemented once and then lost. a patch was never posted |
| 04:34:58 | BZFlag | udp negotiation on 1.7e5 is somewhat broken for 2nd and later players. cvs client works fine. |
| 04:35:26 | BZFlag | change in the server caused the client bug to show up. |
| 04:35:26 | | BZFlag: that doesn't look right |
| 04:36:04 | BZFlag | is confused by ibot |
| 04:36:17 | vogon_jeltz | hahah |
| 04:39:32 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 04:39:42 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 04:40:00 | iLLf8d | wonder why everyone signs off |
| 04:42:18 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 04:45:33 | BZFlag | got -requireudp ? that will boot current non cvs clients |
| 05:57:41 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 05:57:57 | iLLf8d | no its not on |
| 05:57:58 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 06:50:06 | captain_proton | BZFlag: around? |
| 06:50:22 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 06:50:26 | iLLf8d | whatsup |
| 06:50:32 | captain_proton | are you BZFlag? |
| 06:50:36 | iLLf8d | oh |
| 06:50:37 | iLLf8d | nheh |
| 06:50:39 | iLLf8d | nthought you meant me |
| 06:52:08 | MrApathyCream | heah |
| 06:52:24 | MrApathyCream | played on your world tank |
| 06:52:28 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 06:52:31 | iLLf8d | whatya think |
| 06:52:36 | iLLf8d | a bit different huh |
| 06:53:00 | iLLf8d | its meant for alot of people |
| 06:53:07 | iLLf8d | and alot of stealth too |
| 06:53:19 | iLLf8d | I should change the flag setup |
| 06:53:29 | MrApathyCream | no one would go upstairs |
| 06:53:35 | iLLf8d | i'm gonna change that |
| 06:53:37 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 06:53:46 | iLLf8d | make the field below mega small |
| 06:53:48 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 06:53:49 | MrApathyCream | mega stealth would be cool |
| 06:54:24 | iLLf8d | hmm should make it all stealth and laser |
| 06:54:30 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 06:54:38 | MrApathyCream | Sourceforge down today? |
| 06:54:42 | iLLf8d | dunno |
| 06:54:53 | iLLf8d | I doubt it its always slow as crap |
| 06:56:24 | iLLf8d | i'll fix that lower part tonight make a small field version |
| 06:56:37 | iLLf8d | so the flag pocket is tiny |
| 06:56:43 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: just noticed that |
| 06:56:47 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: that world is awesome |
| 06:56:49 | captain_proton | send me? |
| 06:56:52 | iLLf8d | k |
| 06:57:25 | MrApathyCream | your needs md5 patch! :) |
| 06:57:36 | MrApathyCream | insert 'world' |
| 06:58:03 | captain_proton | oh what would be *sweet* would be that world textured as a chess board |
| 06:58:46 | MrApathyCream | riker didn't like my attempt at a world :( |
| 06:58:49 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 06:58:53 | iLLf8d | if you put it up someone may run it |
| 06:59:03 | MrApathyCream | on sourceforge |
| 06:59:04 | iLLf8d | my connection blows and noone is attracted to it |
| 06:59:30 | iLLf8d | I got a detuned version |
| 06:59:37 | MrApathyCream | world may not be any good but is different |
| 06:59:45 | iLLf8d | dude all worlds are good |
| 06:59:56 | iLLf8d | some just more suited for certain types of play |
| 07:00:09 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:01:09 | iLLf8d | I got a feeling i'll get creamed on that field tho heh |
| 07:01:09 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: your attempt at a world? |
| 07:01:10 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 07:01:35 | captain_proton | wails at the demise of sf's webserver |
| 07:02:22 | iLLf8d | lol |
| 07:02:25 | iLLf8d | Apathy.bzw |
| 07:02:27 | iLLf8d | lol |
| 07:02:39 | iLLf8d | not the field the name =P |
| 07:02:40 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 07:03:22 | iLLf8d | not going tho.... |
| 07:03:43 | MrApathyCream | my 'domestic' server is deoping me.... be back soon |
| 07:04:11 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: did you recieve apathy's world? |
| 07:04:15 | iLLf8d | no |
| 07:04:16 | iLLf8d | it hung |
| 07:04:28 | captain_proton | same |
| 07:04:33 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 07:12:16 | captain_proton | wants to respond to riker but is unable to |
| 07:13:43 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 07:21:48 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: send that world again |
| 07:22:20 | MrApathyCream | hmmm seem to have trouble with dcc sends |
| 07:22:29 | MrApathyCream | www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/Apathy.bzw |
| 07:22:54 | captain_proton | ahhhhh |
| 07:23:22 | MrApathyCream | illf8d still here |
| 07:23:24 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 07:25:42 | captain_proton | probably |
| 07:29:27 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 07:29:38 | iLLf8d | sorry working on a field heh |
| 07:29:38 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 07:29:44 | MrApathyCream | np |
| 07:30:05 | iLLf8d | starting netscape gimme 10 min =P |
| 07:30:09 | MrApathyCream | Hmm can't type 'r' and 'u' without quotes like 'r' 'u' here? |
| 07:30:19 | iLLf8d | me either heh |
| 07:30:20 | MrApathyCream | not that it matters |
| 07:30:32 | MrApathyCream | just amusing |
| 07:31:33 | MrApathyCream | how long did decks take you cap? |
| 07:32:41 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 07:32:46 | iLLf8d | got it up on my server |
| 07:32:56 | iLLf8d | do the middle teleporters work? |
| 07:34:44 | MrApathyCream | yes, if you jump right |
| 07:34:46 | iLLf8d | its very different |
| 07:34:50 | iLLf8d | nyeah I got it working =) |
| 07:34:58 | MrApathyCream | hold on |
| 07:34:59 | iLLf8d | what kinda flags would you run on it? |
| 07:35:17 | MrApathyCream | <code for .... it blows> :) |
| 07:37:16 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i didn't do decks |
| 07:37:28 | captain_proton | but the guy who did - probably a couple hours total |
| 07:37:32 | captain_proton | but he didn't use bzedit |
| 07:42:06 | captain_proton | lets out a w00t! to sourceforge |
| 08:07:02 | BZFlag | captain_proton: posted an update? |
| 08:08:15 | captain_proton | BZFlag: yeah |
| 08:08:22 | captain_proton | might not be what you wanted to hear though |
| 08:08:57 | captain_proton | woohoo! i found an acceptable (meaning great) quality copy of lotr :) |
| 08:09:15 | captain_proton | BZFlag: have you seen iLLf8d's world? |
| 08:13:52 | captain_proton | BZFlag: come back! |
| 08:16:24 | BZFlag | back. which world? |
| 08:16:26 | BZFlag | where? |
| 08:20:31 | captain_proton | let me put up his world in a private server |
| 08:21:03 | BZFlag | k. |
| 08:23:11 | captain_proton | ok its up |
| 08:23:14 | captain_proton | not private though |
| 08:23:16 | captain_proton | bhaskara:5156 |
| 08:24:51 | captain_proton | hello? |
| 08:25:19 | captain_proton | coming? |
| 08:30:29 | BZFlag | coming... |
| 09:29:06 | Chestal | hi |
| 09:56:50 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 10:04:38 | vogon_jeltz | is away: T2 |
| 10:05:00 | MrApathyCream | keels over in chair, falls fast asleep |
| 10:47:42 | iLLf8d | cap you still up |
| 10:47:59 | iLLf8d | hms |
| 10:48:09 | iLLf8d | hmms heh |
| 10:48:11 | iLLf8d | ok |
| 15:06:25 | Chestal | playing on those 4-shot-jump-server really is no fun |
| 15:06:38 | Chestal | peopel always camping with gms, big team with 2 gms and lasers in one team etc. |
| 18:49:34 | lupinator | howdy |
| 18:51:29 | Chestal | abend |
| 18:52:21 | lupinator | Chestal: ne runde auf monkeys server? |
| 18:52:31 | Chestal | welcher isn das? |
| 18:52:37 | Chestal | ich brenn gerade ne CD, da warte ich lieber |
| 18:52:57 | | somebody said ide was for the GUI, but the compiler is not nessesarly compliing a GUI application |
| 18:52:57 | lupinator | ide? |
| 18:53:18 | lupinator | thank you ibot |
| 18:53:29 | Chestal | lupi: noe, SCSI, sollte iegentlich keien Problem emachen, aber der bloede Kernel swappt schon mal rum wie wahnsinnig |
| 18:54:39 | lupinator | mit 512mb? das gehoert sich aber nich |
| 18:54:46 | BZFlag | ibot: x de en noe, SCSI, sollte iegentlich keien Problem emachen, aber der bloede Kernel swappt schon mal rum wie wahnsinnig |
| 18:54:50 | | BZFlag: noe, SCSI, should iegentlich keien problem to emachen, but the bloede Kernel swappt already times rum how madly |
| 18:54:57 | BZFlag | hehe |
| 18:55:06 | Chestal | BZFLag: I guess that wasn't very helpful ;-) |
| 18:55:18 | Chestal | there were soem typos in the original |
| 18:55:31 | | lupinator: excuse me? |
| 18:55:31 | lupinator | ibot detypo noe, SCSI, sollte iegentlich keien Problem emachen, aber der bloede Kernel swappt schon mal rum wie wahnsinnig |
| 18:55:47 | Chestal | ibot: x de en nein, SCSI, sollte eigentlich keine Probleme machen, aber der bloede Kernel swappt schon mal rum wie wahnsinnig |
| 18:55:53 | | Chestal: no, SCSI, should actually make no problems, but the bloede Kernel swappt already times rum how madly |
| 18:56:27 | BZFlag | ibot x en de no, SCSI should not cause any problems |
| 18:56:30 | | BZFlag: Nr., SCSI sollte keine Probleme verursachen |
| 18:57:10 | Chestal | ibot: x en de but the stupid kernel sometimes swaps like crazy |
| 18:57:13 | | Chestal: aber der dumme Kern tauschen manchmal das verrückte Gleiche aus |
| 18:57:20 | Chestal | uhoh :-) |
| 18:57:55 | lupinator | in a way ibot gets the point |
| 18:59:59 | BZFlag | heh, that's what it's all about. |
| 19:01:19 | Chestal | hopes that he will be able to read mail tomorrow |
| 19:01:30 | Chestal | and start bzfs on ducati |
| 19:02:14 | lupinator | me too :-) |
| 19:07:24 | Chestal | listens to the sound of the harddisk, caused by a brain-dead memory and buffer management |
| 19:10:09 | Chestal | lupi: which server were you talking about? |
| 19:12:33 | lupinator | it's gone |
| 19:12:49 | lupinator | just tested e5 |
| 19:14:26 | lupinator | rogueradar 0.0 1.0 1.0 |
| 19:14:50 | lupinator | and it's drawn blue |
| 19:15:30 | lupinator | is that intented? or am i missing something with colours |
| 19:16:24 | lupinator | hm guess it should be 1 1 0 |
| 19:17:36 | Chestal | 0 1 1 should be cyan |
| 19:17:41 | Chestal | 1 1 0 is yellow |
| 19:20:41 | lupinator | BZFlag: could you add an option to make flags, tanks and shots smaller on radar? |
| 19:21:07 | lupinator | that would be great as it is the only thing that makes me stick to e3 |
| 19:21:45 | Chestal | yes, we must have our old radar as anoption |
| 19:21:53 | Chestal | oen day I'll look into it |
| 19:23:12 | Chestal | lupi: you could just use RadarRenderer.cxx / .h from an earlier version for now |
| 19:27:33 | lupinator | hm now i've got my old tanks and flags but shots are drawn as lines |
| 19:27:50 | Chestal | ah, I remember |
| 19:27:58 | Chestal | the drawshot part of radarrenderer is dead code |
| 19:28:09 | Chestal | it's in either shotpath or shatstrategy |
| 19:28:17 | Chestal | you'll have to change this for normal shots and gms |
| 19:29:00 | Chestal | it's ShotStrategy::RadarRender or similar |
| 19:29:38 | Chestal | intruder alert! |
| 19:29:50 | tapo | shoot! |
| 19:30:15 | tapo | I've seen lupinator on bzflag... |
| 19:30:33 | tapo | is also know as taponator. |
| 19:32:37 | lupinator | ah ok, thanks |
| 19:36:20 | Chestal | lupi: sag mal ne Zahl zwischen 1 und 16 |
| 19:36:41 | lupinator | 5 |
| 19:36:51 | Chestal | Klassik, danke |
| 19:43:01 | lupinator | Chestal: dann nenn du mir mal eine beliebige natuerliche zahl |
| 19:43:40 | Chestal | ganz beliebig? |
| 19:43:45 | lupinator | jo |
| 19:43:47 | Chestal | 0 |
| 19:43:54 | lupinator | natuerlich |
| 19:44:00 | Chestal | is sie |
| 19:44:13 | lupinator | ich dachte da nicht an N0 |
| 19:44:13 | Chestal | auch wenn es da inkonsistente Definitionen gibt |
| 19:44:21 | Chestal | dann 1729 |
| 19:44:37 | lupinator | ungerdae nudeln, danke |
| 19:44:49 | Chestal | must du die jetzt verbiegen? |
| 19:45:16 | lupinator | ich nehm vorgebogene |
| 19:58:54 | BZFlag | lupinator: just smaller tanks/flags? yeah, we could make that a config entry. a tank/flag size factor. |
| 19:59:04 | BZFlag | headed to work. |
| 20:34:03 | captain_proton | anybody alive? |
| 20:34:56 | Chestal | barely |
| 20:35:09 | lupinator | yo |
| 20:35:20 | captain_proton | Chestal: i've got someone asking me if its possible to rebind the keyboard movement keys |
| 20:36:04 | Chestal | hmm, I don't know |
| 20:42:34 | lupinator | i think i saw them hardcoded some time ago |
| 20:42:48 | Chestal | but steering with keyboard really sucks |
| 20:43:06 | captain_proton | yeah thats what i'm trying to tell this guy |
| 20:43:11 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sleep |
| 20:43:20 | lupinator | you could as well try to steer with a touchpad... |
| 20:43:36 | captain_proton | i've actually seen that work |
| 20:43:40 | Chestal | steering by pushing the mouse with my nose would be better than the current keyboard steering |
| 20:44:20 | captain_proton | lol Chestal |
| 21:12:35 | lupinator | voidRadarRenderer::drawTank(float x, float y, |
| 21:12:35 | lupinator | float z, float ps) |
| 21:12:35 | lupinator | { |
| 21:12:35 | lupinator | GLfloat s = 0.5f + ps * (2.0f + 2.5f * z / (4.0f * BoxHeight)); |
| 21:12:36 | lupinator | glBegin(GL_LINE_STRIP); |
| 21:12:36 | lupinator | glVertex2f(x-s,y); |
| 21:12:38 | lupinator | glVertex2f(x,y-s); |
| 21:12:39 | lupinator | glVertex2f(x+s,y); |
| 21:12:42 | lupinator | glVertex2f(x,y+s); |
| 21:12:43 | lupinator | glVertex2f(x-s,y); |
| 21:12:45 | lupinator | glEnd(); |
| 21:12:47 | lupinator | s = 0.5f + ps * (2.0f + 2.0f * z / (4.0f * BoxHeight)); |
| 21:12:50 | lupinator | glRectf(x - s, y - s, x + s, y + s); |
| 21:12:51 | lupinator | } |
| 21:13:11 | lupinator | i think that's the relevant section of my radarrenderer.cxx |
| 21:13:31 | Chestal | that's the old code, isn't it? |
| 21:13:41 | Chestal | the old code uses ps == pixelsize |
| 21:13:47 | Chestal | the new one in CVS scales tanks |
| 21:15:13 | tad | hello |
| 21:15:21 | lupinator | hi tad |
| 21:15:36 | tad | has monkey_boy come in yet? |
| 21:15:44 | lupinator | no |
| 21:15:59 | tad | he was having problems with his server |
| 21:18:16 | lupinator | flags: i think flags in the closest zoom should be no larger than eith medium radar range |
| 21:18:45 | tad | why? |
| 21:18:58 | tad | nI dont have any problem with them |
| 21:19:19 | lupinator | i think it's only cvs |
| 21:19:21 | Chestal | I liek the old way of tanks and flags having a constant pixel size regardless of zoom level |
| 21:19:40 | Chestal | lupi; I also think that tank and flag scalign was introduced in E5 |
| 21:19:44 | tad | the cvs has diferent sizes? |
| 21:20:42 | tad | do you know of ant free compilers that I can compile bzflag with on windows? |
| 21:21:06 | tad | sure would like to use E5 |
| 21:21:22 | tad | slaps tad around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:21:37 | lupinator | isn't somebody compiling snapshots? |
| 21:23:13 | tad | I dont find any on google |
| 21:24:18 | Chestal | I don't think there are snapshots |
| 21:24:34 | Chestal | and usign E5 does not give you anythign at the moment, lest I've forgotten something |
| 21:24:44 | tad | what is new in it? |
| 21:24:53 | tad | nor diferent |
| 21:24:59 | tad | or diferent |
| 21:25:24 | Chestal | nothign you would notice as a player IIRC |
| 21:25:37 | Chestal | mostly internal stuff, changes to the protocol, work that will yield rewards later |
| 21:25:43 | tad | oh |
| 23:27:59 | iLLf8d | morning |