| 02:00:49 | vogon_jeltz | is away: TV |
| 02:56:20 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:55:31) |
| 03:52:45 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: source navigator? |
| 03:52:56 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 03:53:04 | vogon_jeltz | it's a l33t pseudo-IDE |
| 03:53:49 | vogon_jeltz | it automatically builds crossreference and call graphs for you in a manner much quicker than doxygen, plus it has rudimentary editing functionality so you don't have to keep rebuilding them |
| 03:55:28 | vogon_jeltz | I'd say that a full crossref/class/callgraph build takes about 12 seconds for BZFlag |
| 03:55:40 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 03:55:48 | captain_proton | i think we should write up a new server |
| 03:55:53 | captain_proton | based on libbzflag... |
| 03:55:54 | captain_proton | :) |
| 03:56:30 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 03:56:55 | vogon_jeltz | I need to run something by you |
| 03:57:17 | vogon_jeltz | the caching implementation (which, btw, will fit quite nicely in playing.cxx:MakeWorld()) |
| 03:58:26 | vogon_jeltz | OK... if the client receives a MsgWorldHash, it skips into a routine where it reads the cached world (if present) back from ~/.bzmaps |
| 03:58:51 | vogon_jeltz | if it finds it, then it just read()s it in to worldDatabase, sets a flag to true, and moves on |
| 03:59:25 | vogon_jeltz | if it doesn't, it falls through to the normal world reading routine, mumble-wango, you have a valid world database |
| 04:00:26 | vogon_jeltz | if it has to fall through to the transfer, it takes the on-the-spot hash (from the MsgWorldHash), opens a new file with that name (taken from MD5::hexDigest()), flushes it out to disk, then just moves on... sound good? |
| 04:00:50 | captain_proton | ya |
| 04:01:10 | captain_proton | but it should only save it *if* its a custom world |
| 04:01:14 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 04:01:43 | vogon_jeltz | that's why I'm going to set the server to only send the MsgWorldHash *if* the client sends MsgWantWHash *and* it's a custom world |
| 04:02:01 | vogon_jeltz | otherwise, it'll send an all-null hash |
| 04:02:36 | vogon_jeltz | and also, to make sure that nobody tampers with the files to cheat (although unlikely), I'm going to have the client rehash the file on open |
| 04:03:09 | vogon_jeltz | I might also write in some hit-test code to make sure that nobody does |
| 04:04:22 | vogon_jeltz | (hit-test == send 8 triplets, ask "Is this inside a building or not?", get 8 bits back, and check; if they don't match, MsgSuperKill) |
| 04:04:57 | vogon_jeltz | and the 8 random triplets are randomly-determined, because I'm just that evil :) |
| 04:07:01 | | OK, vogon_jeltz. |
| 04:07:01 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, xyzzy is <reply> nothing happens |
| 04:07:12 | | nothing happens |
| 04:07:12 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, xyzzy |
| 04:07:30 | | ...but xyzzy is <reply> nothing happens... |
| 04:07:30 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, no, xyzzy is <reply>nothing happens|<reply>twice as much happens |
| 04:07:37 | | ...but xyzzy is <reply> nothing happens... |
| 04:07:37 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, no, xyzzy is <reply>nothing happens|<reply>twice as much happens |
| 04:07:47 | | vogon_jeltz: I forgot xyzzy |
| 04:07:47 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, forget xyzzy |
| 04:07:49 | | OK, vogon_jeltz. |
| 04:07:49 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, no, xyzzy is <reply>nothing happens|<reply>twice as much happens |
| 04:07:53 | | twice as much happens |
| 04:07:53 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, xyzzy |
| 04:07:56 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 04:09:01 | vogon_jeltz | http://tuxedo.org/jargon/html/entry/xyzzy.html |
| 06:58:14 | captain_proton | back |
| 06:58:18 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 06:58:35 | vogon_jeltz | checkx0rz out E17 |
| 06:59:09 | captain_proton | is it out? |
| 06:59:34 | vogon_jeltz | no, just CVS |
| 06:59:44 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 07:16:19 | captain_proton | heyhey vj |
| 07:16:39 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 07:31:38 | vogon_jeltz | is away: Saturday Night Live |
| 08:52:47 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 01:21:16) |
| 08:56:52 | MrApathyCream | hey colin |
| 09:06:15 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 09:09:35 | MrApathyCream | wassup? |
| 09:09:42 | vogon_jeltz | not much :) |
| 09:09:44 | MrApathyCream | nboUnpackString behaving itself? |
| 09:09:51 | vogon_jeltz | hasn't started working on it yet |
| 09:10:47 | MrApathyCream | hurumph... so how do you keep server from downloading worlds and being capatable with old clients? |
| 09:11:32 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 09:12:13 | vogon_jeltz | actually, since the client initiates the MD5 hashing process, old clients are compatible with new servers, but not the other way around |
| 09:17:57 | MrApathyCream | haven't looked at the connect code... |
| 09:42:06 | captain_proton | wanders back in |
| 09:43:25 | captain_proton | anybody alive? |
| 09:43:52 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: the quick way to break compatibility is to open up /root/of/the/tree/config-sys (I think) and change VERSIONID and VERSION to reflect a new minor |
| 09:45:14 | MrApathyCream | hey capn! |
| 09:45:14 | captain_proton | hey vogon_jeltz |
| 09:45:20 | vogon_jeltz | hi! |
| 09:45:32 | captain_proton | hi MrApathyCream |
| 09:45:35 | MrApathyCream | yes i think you're right |
| 09:45:42 | MrApathyCream | hey capn. |
| 09:45:42 | captain_proton | i'm reading about ethernet frames :) |
| 09:45:46 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:45:53 | MrApathyCream | light bedtime reading? |
| 09:46:00 | captain_proton | ya i'm bored |
| 09:46:06 | vogon_jeltz | I was testing Tribes2 on my video card, and it actually does quite well at 1024x768... sad, really |
| 09:46:11 | captain_proton | ooh - next chapter - IP |
| 09:46:15 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 09:46:46 | captain_proton | damn that was a short chapter |
| 09:46:49 | captain_proton | all of a page and a half |
| 09:46:54 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 09:47:13 | MrApathyCream | hmmph |
| 09:47:42 | captain_proton | skips the transport layer chapter |
| 09:49:18 | MrApathyCream | GMT +/- ? |
| 09:49:31 | vogon_jeltz | clock check! |
| 09:49:35 | vogon_jeltz | Sun Jan 13 01:51:25 PST 2002 |
| 09:50:06 | MrApathyCream | Sun Jan 13 04:51:39 EST 2002 |
| 09:50:14 | captain_proton | Sun Jan 13 02:50:36 MST 2002 |
| 09:50:26 | MrApathyCream | thinks he loses this game |
| 09:50:31 | vogon_jeltz | nope, cappy does |
| 09:50:32 | captain_proton | uptime check! |
| 09:50:39 | vogon_jeltz | 1:52am up 3 days, 6:05, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.24, 0.50 |
| 09:50:42 | captain_proton | wait i rebooted =/ |
| 09:50:45 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 09:50:47 | captain_proton | 2:51am up 2 days, 12:48, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 |
| 09:51:02 | vogon_jeltz | ph34r m4h l04d 4v3r4g3 |
| 09:51:02 | captain_proton | but my load average takes yours anyday |
| 09:51:25 | captain_proton | beats vogon_jeltz about the head with l33tsp33k |
| 09:51:35 | vogon_jeltz | 5hu7 up |
| 09:51:42 | captain_proton | haha |
| 09:51:47 | vogon_jeltz | how does it go over on AO-IRC? |
| 09:52:08 | vogon_jeltz | is JP still declaring k-line war on Canada? |
| 09:52:09 | captain_proton | everything was finished up by about 30 minutes after the war-bots started attacking |
| 09:52:14 | captain_proton | no that was last night |
| 09:52:19 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:52:35 | captain_proton | right now its dead |
| 09:52:40 | captain_proton | is reading about concurrent servers |
| 09:52:52 | vogon_jeltz | grabs his Pusherbot and Shoverbot and gets ready to attack AO IRC |
| 09:53:01 | captain_proton | hahah |
| 09:53:12 | vogon_jeltz | PAK CHOOIE UNF |
| 09:53:24 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 09:53:33 | captain_proton | 4.5 Concurrent servers using the select() call |
| 09:53:37 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 09:53:40 | captain_proton | this is a l33t book |
| 09:54:09 | captain_proton | but the book i'm *really* interested in has been checked out by someone important |
| 09:54:15 | captain_proton | and it isn't due back until june |
| 09:54:53 | captain_proton | hahaha: listen to this: |
| 09:55:20 | vogon_jeltz | Current stable: 4.1.0 | Development release: 4.1.99.5 CVS | ETA of 4.2.0 - Jan 15th roughly. <-- #xfree86 topic |
| 09:55:29 | vogon_jeltz | you think they'll hit their target? :) |
| 09:55:30 | captain_proton | "also, of course, to avoid being branded as assembly language programmers we must not openly demonstrate in our code that we know how to represent anything as sophisticated as a 'set of' in anything as humble as an integer |
| 09:55:41 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 09:55:46 | captain_proton | no but it'd be cool |
| 09:56:16 | captain_proton | will 4.2.0 play nice with gcc 3.0? |
| 09:56:25 | vogon_jeltz | not sure |
| 09:56:32 | captain_proton | lets join and ask :) |
| 09:57:55 | vogon_jeltz | doesn't even have a copy of GCC 3.0 |
| 09:58:13 | captain_proton | neither do i but i installed it on the l33to-laptop |
| 09:58:26 | vogon_jeltz | just call it the l33top |
| 09:58:55 | captain_proton | good name |
| 09:59:29 | captain_proton | sweet - this book has an example of a load-balancing distributed app to compute primes |
| 10:03:29 | captain_proton | up to anything? |
| 10:04:34 | vogon_jeltz | not this early |
| 10:05:06 | vogon_jeltz | soon, I'll finish my MD5 thing |
| 10:14:36 | captain_proton | is bored |
| 10:15:15 | captain_proton | shoots vogon_jeltz with his new nerf |
| 10:15:25 | vogon_jeltz | raises his new Nerf shields |
| 10:15:39 | captain_proton | damn |
| 10:16:00 | vogon_jeltz | arms his point defense antimatter-Nerf cannons |
| 10:16:17 | captain_proton | you have point defenses? |
| 10:16:29 | vogon_jeltz | lowers his shields and unleashes a barrage of Nerfiness from his Nerf gatling gun |
| 10:16:32 | vogon_jeltz | yes |
| 10:16:36 | captain_proton | wow |
| 10:16:54 | captain_proton | pulls out his katana and cuts vogon_jeltz's nerfiness out of the air |
| 10:17:03 | vogon_jeltz | damn |
| 10:17:13 | captain_proton | ph34r the sword |
| 10:17:31 | captain_proton | hell - i'm afraid of it - its damn sharp ;) |
| 10:17:39 | vogon_jeltz | man, the f*() functions rule |
| 10:17:46 | captain_proton | f*()? |
| 10:17:57 | vogon_jeltz | size_t fwrite( const void *ptr, size_t size, size_t nmemb, FILE *stream); |
| 10:18:05 | captain_proton | ahh yes |
| 10:19:48 | captain_proton | damn this piece of music is good |
| 10:21:57 | vogon_jeltz | meh |
| 10:22:05 | vogon_jeltz | I'm working right now... work == no music |
| 10:22:16 | captain_proton | thats a stupid rule |
| 10:22:18 | vogon_jeltz | and I'm not spending a half-hour downloading something I may not like :) |
| 10:22:26 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: it's because music distracts me too much |
| 10:22:53 | captain_proton | well you're wussy then |
| 10:23:18 | vogon_jeltz | cranks up the server to see if he broke anything with a small change he made |
| 10:23:40 | vogon_jeltz | wtfh? |
| 10:23:44 | captain_proton | ? |
| 10:23:46 | vogon_jeltz | "Internal error connecting to server." |
| 10:23:51 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 10:25:14 | vogon_jeltz | wtf??? |
| 10:25:25 | vogon_jeltz | I did nothing except for change a printf() to an sprintf() |
| 10:25:31 | captain_proton | try again |
| 10:25:42 | vogon_jeltz | I have |
| 10:25:49 | captain_proton | that sux0rs |
| 10:26:00 | vogon_jeltz | god, wtf is wrong with this thing? |
| 10:28:44 | captain_proton | thinks xchat needs to lock its clist when updating it |
| 10:30:59 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... I seem to have fixed it |
| 10:31:06 | captain_proton | good |
| 10:31:57 | vogon_jeltz | yupz0r... I wrote the code right, I guess it was a problem with me not making clean inbetween builds |
| 10:32:11 | captain_proton | bizzare |
| 10:32:27 | vogon_jeltz | well, I am compiling with -ggdb, so it may have something to do with that |
| 10:32:33 | captain_proton | ahh probably |
| 10:32:42 | captain_proton | debugging sucks |
| 10:32:46 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 10:33:50 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... does anyone install bzflag setuid? :) |
| 10:34:01 | captain_proton | i doubt it |
| 10:36:21 | vogon_jeltz | well, I'm still going to put in anti-buffer-overflow measures |
| 10:36:29 | captain_proton | good idea |
| 10:37:31 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... what do you think I should name the cache directory? :) |
| 10:37:42 | captain_proton | ~/.bzflag/maps |
| 10:37:53 | vogon_jeltz | nah, because that'd require me to rename the prefs |
| 10:38:05 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 10:38:05 | vogon_jeltz | uses ~/.bzmaps |
| 10:38:11 | captain_proton | good enough for now |
| 10:38:30 | captain_proton | when we rewrite everything we'll have a decent .bzflag directory and security checks everywhere |
| 10:38:51 | vogon_jeltz | mapPath = strncat(mapPath, "/.bzmaps", 247 - strlen(mapPath)); <-- phear |
| 10:38:55 | vogon_jeltz | ph34r, even |
| 10:39:29 | vogon_jeltz | and that way, I don't have to use multiple variables :_ |
| 10:39:31 | vogon_jeltz | :), even |
| 10:41:37 | captain_proton | heh |
| 10:44:35 | vogon_jeltz | foo... that sucks |
| 10:46:35 | vogon_jeltz | ahh, n/m |
| 10:47:17 | vogon_jeltz | since the worlds are *technically* limited in size to 64K, all I have to do is allocate a 64K buffer and pare it down to what's needed with realloc() |
| 10:48:22 | captain_proton | gross |
| 10:48:28 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 10:48:42 | vogon_jeltz | at least I only have to make one call to the file system routines :) |
| 10:53:45 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... does realloc() duplicate any data in the block that you reallocate? |
| 10:54:03 | vogon_jeltz | nope |
| 10:54:20 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 10:54:38 | captain_proton | realloc() changes the size of the memory block pointed to by ptr to size bytes. The contents will be unchanged to the minimum of the old and new sizes. |
| 10:54:39 | vogon_jeltz | oh, n/m |
| 10:54:44 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I noticed that just now :P |
| 10:55:26 | captain_proton | ook brk() is cool |
| 11:08:24 | vogon_jeltz | well, this is absolutely fucking hilarious |
| 11:08:36 | captain_proton | ? |
| 11:09:00 | vogon_jeltz | the same memcpy() that I was forced to use yesterday because nboUnpackString() segfaulted is now segfaulting itself |
| 11:09:25 | captain_proton | lol |
| 11:09:42 | vogon_jeltz | makes sure it's not a bogotified line number |
| 11:11:03 | vogon_jeltz | yup... it's real |
| 11:15:59 | vogon_jeltz | stupid thing finally decided to kill X :P |
| 15:55:57 | MrApathyCream | slaps MrApathyCream around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:53:28 | Chestal | hi MAC |
| 16:56:43 | MrApathyCream | nhey |
| 20:03:35 | captain_proton | heeey tim! |