| 00:00:49 | vogon_jeltz | btw, I think I can pull the greeny-blue out of the LG logo if you want |
| 00:01:48 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... it looks OK without the greeny-blue |
| 00:01:50 | captain_proton | holy shiat - we're on linuxgames.com |
| 00:01:58 | vogon_jeltz | yeh, you didn't know? |
| 00:02:03 | captain_proton | no i don't track it |
| 00:02:20 | captain_proton | puts on a smug face |
| 00:02:21 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 00:02:50 | vogon_jeltz | you want my prototype white LG button? |
| 00:02:56 | captain_proton | sure |
| 00:04:08 | captain_proton | makes a face |
| 00:04:20 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 00:04:32 | captain_proton | needs a lot more cleaning up |
| 00:04:35 | vogon_jeltz | yeh |
| 00:04:41 | captain_proton | and it needs to be 88x31 w/ a 1px black border |
| 00:05:04 | vogon_jeltz | it is 88x31 already |
| 00:05:43 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 00:05:45 | captain_proton | needs a black border |
| 00:05:57 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, but that's not too hard :) |
| 00:07:06 | captain_proton | true, true |
| 00:07:15 | captain_proton | is still smiling about seeing his names on LG |
| 00:16:15 | vogon_jeltz | oop |
| 00:16:17 | vogon_jeltz | wait a sec |
| 00:16:56 | vogon_jeltz | argh... please delete the .gif from your DCC folder so that I can send it without having it be corrupted |
| 00:17:00 | vogon_jeltz | :P |
| 00:18:48 | captain_proton | ok resend |
| 00:20:39 | captain_proton | excellent |
| 00:20:43 | captain_proton | check the page |
| 00:21:41 | vogon_jeltz | l33t |
| 00:35:30 | captain_proton | BZFlag: come back! |
| 00:36:30 | captain_proton | i need to to create a mysql database for the web page |
| 00:41:49 | captain_proton | well i've got it tied into a postgres db on my own box... |
| 01:03:05 | captain_proton | w00! this website is gonna be cool... |
| 01:19:15 | BZFlag | is back, but leaving. |
| 01:19:30 | BZFlag | the web site is narrow on a 1600x1200 display. |
| 01:19:44 | BZFlag | please don'e hors restrict the display. |
| 01:19:46 | BZFlag | cya |
| 01:41:13 | MrApathyCream | Any progress on MD5, vogon? |
| 01:47:16 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 02:08:13 | err | hi |
| 02:08:19 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 02:08:45 | err | did someone ever think about having absolute darkness and signal rockets? :) |
| 02:09:06 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 02:14:37 | vogon_jeltz | hi-lo, MrApathyCream |
| 02:16:25 | err | are there any hints for new programmers? or would i have to read the whole source? |
| 02:18:18 | vogon_jeltz | that's what I did |
| 02:18:28 | vogon_jeltz | it's also a cure for that pesky "sanity" thing |
| 02:19:49 | err | ? |
| 02:20:02 | vogon_jeltz | just read the source |
| 02:20:40 | err | its a mess |
| 02:20:44 | err | :) |
| 02:22:14 | err | hmm ill try to understand it, that signal rocket idea of mine is just great :) |
| 02:22:39 | err | i HAVE to try that |
| 02:54:45 | captain_proton | wonders what "don'e hors" means |
| 02:55:08 | captain_proton | heyhey MrApathyCream |
| 02:55:09 | vogon_jeltz | don't horz |
| 02:55:33 | vogon_jeltz | in other words, don't make the website use absolute column width |
| 02:55:49 | captain_proton | :( |
| 02:55:56 | captain_proton | but then my pretty title graphic doesn't work :P |
| 02:56:00 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 02:56:22 | vogon_jeltz | just whip up a bit of JS and tile a filler graphic to the left |
| 02:56:33 | captain_proton | no javascript |
| 02:56:51 | vogon_jeltz | PHP? |
| 02:56:56 | captain_proton | ya its php |
| 02:57:10 | captain_proton | but php can't do that |
| 02:57:25 | captain_proton | you have no clue of the browser size |
| 02:57:30 | captain_proton | and what if they resize their browser? |
| 02:58:06 | vogon_jeltz | stretch it horizontally, then |
| 02:58:14 | captain_proton | riker doesn't realize that if your page stretches too far side to side it gets hard on the eyes |
| 02:58:16 | captain_proton | vomits |
| 02:58:22 | captain_proton | stretch?!?! |
| 02:58:50 | vogon_jeltz | hahah |
| 02:59:03 | vogon_jeltz | think about it for a moment |
| 03:02:43 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: you think I should just scrap backwards-compatibility with the MD5 map hashing? |
| 03:03:02 | captain_proton | well...i'm rewriting the entire protocol, so yeah |
| 03:03:06 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 03:04:21 | captain_proton | what do you want your password to be? |
| 03:04:32 | vogon_jeltz | for what? |
| 03:05:00 | captain_proton | bzflag's web site :) |
| 03:05:05 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 03:05:30 | vogon_jeltz | how about "#07b14(kd35|470"? |
| 03:06:00 | vogon_jeltz | uses that for most of his passes... |
| 03:06:19 | captain_proton | i need the non-hashed version buddy |
| 03:06:33 | vogon_jeltz | that is the non-hashed version |
| 03:06:40 | captain_proton | you're sick |
| 03:06:45 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 03:07:32 | vogon_jeltz | hash-zero-seven-bee-one-four-open-kay-dee-three-five-pipe-four-seven-zero |
| 03:08:11 | captain_proton | that was random |
| 03:08:32 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:08:40 | vogon_jeltz | it's really quite easy to memorize |
| 03:09:30 | vogon_jeltz | it only took me about 5 days to go from using it as my new password to being able to type it in a second or two |
| 03:10:01 | captain_proton | username? |
| 03:10:21 | vogon_jeltz | vogon |
| 03:12:04 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... got some recruitment info from Harvard today |
| 03:13:16 | captain_proton | fun |
| 03:13:44 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:14:04 | vogon_jeltz | I've also gotten the schtick from Caltech, MIT, and quite a few other big schools |
| 03:14:14 | captain_proton | smacks vogon_jeltz |
| 03:14:32 | vogon_jeltz | points out that a 1410 on the SATs at the age of 15 is the quick route to academic spam |
| 03:14:46 | vogon_jeltz | s/15/14 |
| 03:14:59 | vogon_jeltz | I got a... 1520(?) on the SATs at 15 |
| 03:17:18 | vogon_jeltz | and a 730 or so on the SAT II: Chemistry at 13 |
| 03:20:27 | captain_proton | http://216.241.172.187/bzflag/admin/ |
| 03:20:47 | captain_proton | the cookies won't work for you because of the domain, but its good enough |
| 03:20:54 | captain_proton | you'll be able to test it |
| 03:21:37 | captain_proton | damn..messed up a little |
| 03:21:38 | vogon_jeltz | ooh |
| 03:22:03 | captain_proton | ok fix0red |
| 03:22:27 | captain_proton | you shouldn't have user-control at the moment... |
| 03:22:40 | vogon_jeltz | damn :P |
| 03:22:56 | captain_proton | no offense, just i wanted to test the different access levels |
| 03:23:09 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 03:23:23 | captain_proton | username | password | access |
| 03:23:24 | captain_proton | ----------+----------------------------------+-------- |
| 03:23:24 | captain_proton | jupiter | f445e82d941e2f60985e61e63afd453c | 3 |
| 03:23:24 | captain_proton | vogon | 1d7e1d54771ab98aff078aeae4d42f27 | 2 |
| 03:23:29 | captain_proton | :) |
| 03:23:38 | vogon_jeltz | ph34r |
| 03:23:53 | captain_proton | has done this before |
| 03:24:07 | captain_proton | i am the database interface MASTAH! |
| 03:24:10 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 03:25:17 | captain_proton | access level 1 = manipulate personal releases and create news items |
| 03:25:29 | captain_proton | access level 2 = 1 + edit/delete news items |
| 03:25:35 | captain_proton | access level 3 = supah user |
| 03:25:45 | vogon_jeltz | wants to manipulate personal releases... whatever they are :) |
| 03:26:06 | captain_proton | well...like valoche or apathy when they make an intermediate release |
| 03:26:13 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 03:26:18 | captain_proton | the website will have a repository of all of them |
| 03:26:39 | vogon_jeltz | needs to do that with his MD5-summing stuff and other stupid tweaks to things that aren't really broken :) |
| 03:26:58 | captain_proton | $hash = md5($password); |
| 03:27:02 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:27:59 | vogon_jeltz | had a working MD5-hash thing, but it turned out that the way I implemented it, the client wouldn't get the hash until the whole world DB was transferred |
| 03:28:02 | vogon_jeltz | s/I/he |
| 03:28:06 | captain_proton | hrm i need to get this on bzflag.org so the cookies can have a domain |
| 03:28:08 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 03:28:21 | captain_proton | using "localhost" as the cookie domain works bad |
| 03:28:22 | vogon_jeltz | kicks cappy's ass |
| 03:28:28 | captain_proton | ? |
| 03:28:37 | vogon_jeltz | stop laughing at me :) |
| 03:28:47 | captain_proton | lol |
| 03:29:00 | captain_proton | ya know riker is a bad writer... |
| 03:29:26 | vogon_jeltz | how so? |
| 03:31:25 | captain_proton | read some of the crap on bzflag.org =/ |
| 03:32:30 | vogon_jeltz | w00ty-w00t... |
| 03:32:41 | vogon_jeltz | figured out how to add a new message... :) |
| 03:32:58 | captain_proton | w00ty-w00t? |
| 03:33:03 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 03:33:14 | captain_proton | erm, ok |
| 03:33:18 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 03:34:14 | captain_proton | mails riker asking for a db |
| 03:34:20 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:34:40 | vogon_jeltz | points out that his MD5-hashing scheme is clever, in his opinion |
| 03:34:53 | captain_proton | your oh-so-humble opinion? |
| 03:34:58 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:35:11 | captain_proton | flashes an innocent smile |
| 03:35:20 | vogon_jeltz | it only requires the addition of 2 messages to the protocol, possibly down to 1 if I'm lucky |
| 03:35:43 | captain_proton | mfh |
| 03:35:47 | vogon_jeltz | and theoretically, it'll even work with old clients! |
| 03:35:47 | captain_proton | meh rather |
| 03:35:58 | captain_proton | laughs evilly |
| 03:36:05 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:36:35 | vogon_jeltz | see, the server waits for the client to ask for a hash, and it sends it in response... since the server is stateless, I don't have to worry about screwing up the connection :) |
| 03:37:39 | captain_proton | and you think thats extra special clever? |
| 03:37:47 | vogon_jeltz | not really |
| 03:37:54 | vogon_jeltz | s/clever/kinda clever/ |
| 03:38:23 | vogon_jeltz | it also, all told, will only require a few dozen extra lines of code (including a client-side world parser) |
| 03:38:53 | vogon_jeltz | hell, I can scrap the parser if I just dump worlds in world-database format |
| 03:38:59 | captain_proton | :) |
| 03:52:38 | captain_proton | does a new php file dance |
| 03:53:35 | vogon_jeltz | does the "I think I've gotten back to where I was last night re the MD5 thing" dance |
| 03:54:56 | vogon_jeltz | fark |
| 03:55:08 | vogon_jeltz | Remote world MD5 hash is: ffffff91ffffffa2ffffff875c0f42246d05fffffff3ffffffb206ffffff8c595b31 |
| 03:55:08 | vogon_jeltz | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 03:55:48 | vogon_jeltz | makes a note to unpack it from NBO this time |
| 03:58:15 | vogon_jeltz | shoot |
| 03:59:02 | vogon_jeltz | time to crank up the ol' ethereal |
| 04:00:28 | vogon_jeltz | yup... the server's broken |
| 04:52:02 | vogon_jeltz | is away: 24 |
| 04:55:37 | captain_proton | lol |
| 05:55:53 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 01:03:52) |
| 05:56:41 | captain_proton | wb |
| 05:56:50 | vogon_jeltz | thx :) |
| 05:56:54 | captain_proton | i'm converting bzflag's icky help pages into something useful :) |
| 05:57:15 | vogon_jeltz | TeX mache? |
| 05:57:28 | captain_proton | no |
| 05:57:32 | captain_proton | useful help pages |
| 05:57:37 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 05:57:38 | captain_proton | s/pages/web pages/ |
| 05:58:05 | vogon_jeltz | ahhhhhhhhh |
| 05:58:10 | vogon_jeltz | now, *that* makes sense |
| 05:58:41 | captain_proton | TeX mache sounds fun though |
| 05:59:52 | vogon_jeltz | tries to track down the segfault in BZflag |
| 06:17:27 | captain_proton | waBAM! |
| 06:17:47 | captain_proton | http://216.241.172.187/bzflag/help/troubleshooting.php |
| 06:17:48 | vogon_jeltz | w00-h00! |
| 06:17:51 | vogon_jeltz | fixed it |
| 06:18:05 | vogon_jeltz | I accidentally forgot to close up a switch fallthrough |
| 06:18:08 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:18:24 | captain_proton | check the page :) |
| 06:18:34 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... it's still not working |
| 06:19:00 | vogon_jeltz | but it doesn't crash ^_^ |
| 06:19:10 | captain_proton | lol |
| 06:20:36 | vogon_jeltz | argh... how do I snoop the player<->client comms outside of adding in printfs? :/ |
| 06:21:01 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 06:21:07 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... n/m |
| 06:22:29 | vogon_jeltz | w00t! ethereal r00lz |
| 06:23:18 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... it seems to be exchanging packets right, but it's not printing my diagnostic printf |
| 06:23:24 | vogon_jeltz | s/printing/calling/ |
| 06:24:07 | vogon_jeltz | oh, fark... I found the bug |
| 06:24:32 | vogon_jeltz | argh |
| 06:24:34 | vogon_jeltz | it's still broken |
| 06:24:39 | vogon_jeltz | Remote world MD5 hash is: ffffff91ffffffa2ffffff875c0f42246d05fffffff3ffffffb206ffffff8c595b31 |
| 06:24:46 | captain_proton | =/ |
| 06:25:18 | vogon_jeltz | (where the actual MD5 hash is everything but the ff bytes |
| 06:25:18 | vogon_jeltz | ) |
| 06:25:39 | captain_proton | ick |
| 06:28:45 | vogon_jeltz | do you want the patch so far? |
| 06:28:54 | vogon_jeltz | (to be applied to a 1.7e4 tree) |
| 06:29:27 | captain_proton | does it work? |
| 06:29:55 | vogon_jeltz | it transmits the hash (fairly) correctly, and it gets you into the game, but the actual caching stuff isn't done yet |
| 06:30:00 | vogon_jeltz | and it freezes on exit |
| 06:30:20 | vogon_jeltz | (my guess being that it overflows a buffer somewhere and delete[] chokes) |
| 06:30:31 | captain_proton | then no |
| 06:30:37 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 06:30:57 | vogon_jeltz | once I track down the freeze and the garbage bug, I'll be ready to write the actual working part :) |
| 06:33:27 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... the packet payload is 00 12 77 68 91 a2 87 5c 0f 42 24 6d 05 f3 b2 06 8c 59 5b 31 08 00 |
| 06:34:19 | vogon_jeltz | [nerdman@fortytwo bin]$ md5sum /usr/src/bzedit-2.0/tightrope.bzw |
| 06:34:19 | vogon_jeltz | 91a2875c0f42246d05f3b2068c595b31 /usr/src/bzedit-2.0/tightrope.bzw |
| 06:36:53 | captain_proton | looks right |
| 06:37:11 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, but something's going hellishly wrong on the client end |
| 06:37:45 | captain_proton | yeah... |
| 06:40:24 | captain_proton | w00t! |
| 06:40:30 | vogon_jeltz | w0t? |
| 06:40:38 | captain_proton | http://216.241.172.187/bzflag/help/faq.php |
| 06:41:13 | captain_proton | damn thats a pretty title graphic... |
| 06:41:25 | captain_proton | only took about 30 seconds of gimping too... |
| 06:50:17 | vogon_jeltz | foo |
| 06:52:09 | captain_proton | hey MrApathyCream |
| 06:52:16 | MrApathyCream | howdy |
| 06:52:16 | vogon_jeltz | hi, dave |
| 06:52:28 | MrApathyCream | hows the map cacheing coming |
| 06:52:31 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 06:52:44 | vogon_jeltz | for some reason, nboUnpackString f0rks up the code, but memcpy doesn't |
| 06:53:10 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: http://216.241.172.187/bzflag/ |
| 06:53:37 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: nope |
| 06:54:04 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: like? |
| 06:54:14 | MrApathyCream | 1969? |
| 06:54:22 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 06:54:27 | captain_proton | oh yeah |
| 06:54:44 | captain_proton | i just set the timestamp to 0 on that one because the admin stuff hasn't been completed yet |
| 06:54:47 | vogon_jeltz | alright... I think I found it :) |
| 06:55:05 | vogon_jeltz | Remote world MD5 hash is: 91a2875c0f42246d05f3b2068c595b31 |
| 06:55:13 | captain_proton | nice |
| 06:55:25 | vogon_jeltz | the correct format string was "%02hhx" |
| 06:55:30 | captain_proton | so lemme get this straight - you're at about the point you were last night? |
| 06:55:41 | vogon_jeltz | yes, but this one should actually do something when it's finished |
| 06:55:42 | captain_proton | so it was working all along |
| 06:56:11 | vogon_jeltz | //nboUnpackString(msg, hash, 16); <-- uncommenting this line causes it to segfault :P |
| 06:56:20 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:56:37 | vogon_jeltz | I just replaced it with a call to memcpy(), and it works now |
| 06:57:39 | MrApathyCream | memcpy(hash,msg,16) works? |
| 06:57:43 | vogon_jeltz | yup |
| 06:58:12 | vogon_jeltz | and, yeah, I know that it's gonna suck when I have to put this code on non-x86 boxen |
| 06:58:25 | MrApathyCream | wacky |
| 06:58:32 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 06:58:44 | captain_proton | by then hopefully we'll be in xml anyhoo |
| 06:58:53 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 06:59:09 | vogon_jeltz | watches cappy's plans die... |
| 06:59:09 | MrApathyCream | were'd it segfault? |
| 06:59:27 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: it segfaulted in chunk_alloc, part of the dlmalloc stuff :P |
| 06:59:39 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 07:00:42 | MrApathyCream | hey... i saw tim wiped enough baby goo from his shirt to checkout sourceforge today |
| 07:00:55 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 07:01:47 | captain_proton | lol |
| 07:01:53 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: the good news is that I'm implementing the MD5 stuff in a way that it can be released without breaking old clients |
| 07:02:10 | MrApathyCream | that nboUnpackString would drive me crazy... it is driving me crazy... |
| 07:02:12 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 07:02:45 | MrApathyCream | makes no sense.... didn't assign the result of the call to anything? |
| 07:02:57 | vogon_jeltz | nope |
| 07:03:12 | vogon_jeltz | it returns void, IIRC |
| 07:03:23 | vogon_jeltz | well, doesn't return void, but you get the point ;) |
| 07:03:49 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... void pointer... that's odd :/ |
| 07:04:06 | MrApathyCream | returns the buffer past where you read |
| 07:04:06 | vogon_jeltz | either way, it's the only thing I have to unpack from the packet |
| 07:04:18 | captain_proton | ln -s /dev/null void\* |
| 07:04:27 | captain_proton | :) |
| 07:04:29 | vogon_jeltz | it's just [header] wh [16-byte hash] |
| 07:04:44 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: hehe |
| 07:04:56 | MrApathyCream | are you taking cold medicine? ... thinking of other possibilities... |
| 07:05:09 | captain_proton | kiddie alert! kiddie alert! we have a script kiddie on #antionline! |
| 07:05:10 | vogon_jeltz | no :) |
| 07:05:13 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: haha |
| 07:05:22 | captain_proton | <rlp21> where good site for exploits? |
| 07:05:28 | captain_proton | <rlp21> i scanne a site ad it said postinfo.html was vulnerable |
| 07:05:34 | captain_proton | <evil_enchilada> is it your site? |
| 07:05:38 | captain_proton | <rlp21> no its not my site |
| 07:05:43 | captain_proton | :) |
| 07:07:58 | captain_proton | haha i linked it in my home dir :) |
| 07:47:43 | captain_proton | whips out the sed-fu |
| 07:59:57 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: around? |
| 08:02:21 | captain_proton | asks the djinn: where is riker? |
| 08:02:27 | vogon_jeltz | mebbe |
| 08:03:06 | captain_proton | adding news works :) |
| 08:03:14 | captain_proton | i moved it to babylonia to get a domain for the cookies |
| 08:03:26 | captain_proton | which are still a little fux0red up on logout but it works! |
| 08:03:56 | MrApathyCream | slaps captain_proton around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:04:05 | MrApathyCream | had to try it!! :) |
| 08:04:13 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/bzflag/admin/ |
| 08:04:20 | captain_proton | add yerself a news item |
| 08:04:47 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: heh... |
| 08:05:53 | captain_proton | w00! i cleared the cookie |
| 08:24:44 | captain_proton | edit news works |
| 08:46:13 | captain_proton | and deleting... |
| 08:57:24 | captain_proton | byebye apathy |
| 08:57:40 | | BZFlag was last seen on #bzflag 7 hours, 37 minutes and 54 seconds ago, saying: cya [Sat Jan 12 01:19:46 2002] |
| 08:57:40 | captain_proton | ibot, seen BZFlag |
| 08:58:07 | | captain_proton: sorry... |
| 08:58:07 | captain_proton | ibot: you're a big help |
| 08:58:18 | captain_proton | is intrigued |
| 09:19:55 | captain_proton | can add users :) |
| 09:20:06 | vogon_jeltz | ooh |
| 09:22:19 | captain_proton | apathy has an account now |
| 09:22:21 | captain_proton | level 1 :) |
| 09:22:47 | captain_proton | damnit i need mysql soon or else it's gonna be a total pain converting everything... |
| 09:23:25 | captain_proton | ooh - the php logo is covered in snow... |
| 09:30:07 | captain_proton | wait - its gonna be easy |
| 09:30:13 | captain_proton | change pg_connect to mysql_connect |
| 09:30:20 | captain_proton | change pg_numrows to mysql_num_rows |
| 09:30:28 | captain_proton | change pg_exec to mysql_query |
| 09:30:37 | captain_proton | and pg_fetch_array to mysql_fetch_array |
| 09:30:37 | captain_proton | :D |
| 09:30:48 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 09:31:06 | captain_proton | and i'll be back on a fat pipe so it'll be tolerable to do remotely |
| 09:34:24 | vogon_jeltz | is away: TeeVee |
| 10:45:31 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 01:11:07) |
| 10:46:15 | captain_proton | wb |
| 10:46:43 | vogon_jeltz | thx :) |
| 10:56:12 | captain_proton | checked out the site? |
| 10:56:17 | captain_proton | i recompressed the logo |
| 10:56:50 | vogon_jeltz | not yet |
| 10:57:10 | captain_proton | you can, uh, delete your news item? |
| 10:57:10 | vogon_jeltz | is finishing his reread of "Big Trouble" |
| 11:03:50 | captain_proton | ? |
| 11:04:03 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 11:04:15 | vogon_jeltz | possibly my favorite book in the past couple years |
| 11:04:24 | captain_proton | what author? |
| 11:04:37 | vogon_jeltz | Dave Barry |
| 11:04:42 | captain_proton | ahhh |
| 11:09:28 | vogon_jeltz | well, I'm done and I'm going to get back to the MD5 thing :) |
| 11:09:44 | captain_proton | have fun |
| 11:09:48 | captain_proton | i'm going to sleep soon |
| 11:09:54 | vogon_jeltz | heh... nn, in that case |
| 12:12:09 | Ruudi | hi |
| 12:12:41 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 12:12:56 | Ruudi | any of you got own server? |
| 12:13:39 | Ruudi | i think there is need for bz server with classical 3 shot - lots of flags...and only two teams |
| 12:49:06 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sl33p |
| 16:36:36 | MrApathyCream | wonders if anyone is here |
| 18:57:45 | Chestal | respawnign really sucks with CTF |
| 19:32:53 | MrApathyCream | yes.. captain proton and I were discussing adding a world 'object' that describes both valid flag and tank plopin locations |
| 19:33:12 | MrApathyCream | that way ctf could limit were tanks come in... maybe to homebase |
| 19:36:18 | captain_proton | comes back |
| 19:37:03 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: 2 different objects |
| 19:37:09 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 19:42:43 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: message buffer?!? thats coool |
| 19:47:54 | MrApathyCream | yea, got tired of typing ... sorry :( |
| 19:50:12 | MrApathyCream | someone needs to organize -> bzchat nite <- when everyone comes |
| 19:50:34 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you code too much :0 |
| 19:51:09 | MrApathyCream | probably |
| 19:52:15 | captain_proton | then again i've written acres of code over break so i'm not one to talk... |
| 19:54:01 | MrApathyCream | when you get to be my age, nothing else works |
| 19:54:05 | MrApathyCream | what's your excuse |
| 19:55:17 | captain_proton | erm...good question |
| 19:57:17 | MrApathyCream | enhanced win32 client, just updated, available at www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html |
| 19:57:52 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: soon you'll be able to manage personal releases on the web site |
| 20:03:57 | MrApathyCream | if only |
| 20:04:22 | captain_proton | which will meen you'll need to keep track of what extra features each client has |
| 20:04:54 | MrApathyCream | add-ins don't really give player an advantage... just sugar |
| 20:05:14 | captain_proton | yeah i know |
| 20:05:34 | captain_proton | but it'll be nice to have one page with all the intermediate clients and what features each has |
| 20:06:20 | MrApathyCream | by the way, i changed message sends to XML |
| 20:06:26 | MrApathyCream | likes to kid |
| 20:06:36 | captain_proton | arggg |
| 20:06:44 | captain_proton | pats MrApathyCream with a large hammer |
| 20:06:57 | MrApathyCream | was that slap? |
| 20:07:00 | MrApathyCream | slaps captain_proton around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:07:07 | MrApathyCream | hmm no i guess not |
| 20:07:22 | captain_proton | no that was a hammer |
| 20:07:24 | captain_proton | i don't use mirc |
| 20:07:28 | MrApathyCream | ahh |
| 20:07:49 | captain_proton | because i use leenoox |
| 20:08:42 | MrApathyCream | decides he'd better move before becoming paralized |
| 20:08:47 | MrApathyCream | see you later |
| 20:08:55 | captain_proton | see ya |
| 20:24:50 | captain_proton | yo yo yo JeffM2501 |
| 20:25:33 | JeffM2501 | hey |
| 20:25:35 | JeffM2501 | what's up |
| 20:35:50 | captain_proton | not much... |
| 20:35:56 | captain_proton | going to move back to campus sometime today |
| 20:37:38 | JeffM2501 | ahh the joy of moving |
| 20:38:02 | captain_proton | yeah...monitor is the hardest part...very heavy |
| 20:38:18 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:38:46 | JeffM2501 | I've had to help various ex-girlfriends move to schools |
| 20:58:42 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 08:09:36) |
| 20:58:45 | vogon_jeltz | hi, all |
| 20:58:51 | captain_proton | hey vogon_jeltz |
| 20:59:14 | vogon_jeltz | WHAZZZZUUUUUUUP? |
| 20:59:24 | captain_proton | AO is being attacked |
| 20:59:32 | vogon_jeltz | ph34r |
| 20:59:32 | captain_proton | and last night JP banned canada from irc |
| 20:59:50 | vogon_jeltz | checkx0rz attrition |
| 21:00:00 | captain_proton | JP sets ban on *@!*.ca |
| 21:01:18 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:01:34 | vogon_jeltz | either you wrote that wrong or he has no concept of username-domain pairs |
| 21:01:41 | captain_proton | i wrote it wrong |
| 21:01:46 | vogon_jeltz | it's *!*@*.ca for canada :) |
| 21:01:51 | captain_proton | because i didn't want to find it in a 5-day long buffer |
| 21:02:05 | vogon_jeltz | star-bang-star-at-star-dot-cee-eh |
| 21:02:24 | captain_proton | thats quite annoying, you know> |
| 21:02:25 | captain_proton | ? |
| 21:02:35 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:02:58 | captain_proton | made a news item about you deleting your news item :) |
| 21:03:17 | vogon_jeltz | as Jeffk might say... |
| 21:03:21 | vogon_jeltz | JUMP UP MY BUTT! |
| 21:03:33 | captain_proton | lol |
| 21:03:43 | captain_proton | not JUMP UP YM BUTT? |
| 21:03:48 | vogon_jeltz | no |
| 21:04:07 | vogon_jeltz | for some reason, JUMP UP MY BUTT is always spelled right |
| 21:04:21 | captain_proton | remember, HAX0RING SI ILLEGALE! |
| 21:04:40 | captain_proton | lol |
| 21:04:43 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 21:16:15 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... it appears that that guy, undefined, might be trying to flood two bug reports |
| 21:16:32 | vogon_jeltz | he's quadruple-submitted one followup, and quintuple-submitted another |
| 21:31:29 | captain_proton | yeah i noticed |
| 21:32:00 | Chestal | I did not understand what exactly the problem with his not scoring positive is |
| 21:32:12 | captain_proton | no - i've never noticed that |
| 21:32:20 | captain_proton | perhaps the bots were beating him and he got mad? |
| 21:32:29 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:34:29 | Chestal | I would indeed get mad if the default bots would beat me :-) |
| 21:35:30 | captain_proton | i think i'm gonna try to decode the host hashes used on antionline... |
| 21:37:41 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.somethingawful.com/ <-- read the Awful Link of the Day at the far bottom |
| 21:38:37 | vogon_jeltz | "NEO HATE (thanks me) - Finally, a site that exhibits the beautiful fusion only possible by combining shitty rap, shitty heavy metal, and the absolute most retarded racism ever. If God wanted us to be racist he wouldn't make wearing a bedsheet look so remarkably dorky." |
| 21:39:52 | vogon_jeltz | ""Neo Hate" takes racism and anti-Semitism to a brand new level. Note that I claim it is a "new" level, not a "good" or "interesting" one. The self-proclaimed "Orginal Rhyme Core Thugs" (sic) appears to consist of one man (or at least one vaguely humanoid-shaped object) who performs the absolute most horrible rap / metal songs possible." |
| 21:44:13 | captain_proton | ha |
| 23:12:24 | captain_proton | heyhey MrApathyCream |
| 23:16:15 | MrApathyCream | you again.... shees.... i thought i was pathetic |
| 23:16:21 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 23:16:37 | MrApathyCream | whats gnu |
| 23:24:57 | MrApathyCream | any more thoughts on flag pop-in object? |
| 23:45:35 | vogon_jeltz | w00t! got Source Navigator working with BZFlag |