| 00:00:19 | ebenezer_proton | offers vogon_jeltz the job |
| 00:12:10 | vogon_jeltz | no thanks :) |
| 00:12:31 | ebenezer_proton | i'll just have to be l33t all on my own then |
| 00:21:07 | ebenezer_proton | lol i just had some fun |
| 00:21:17 | ebenezer_proton | someone asked in #antionline what the protocol is... |
| 00:21:23 | ebenezer_proton | well, the protocol is TCP/IP with an application layer of RFC-compliant IRC... |
| 00:23:11 | vogon_jeltz | lo-freaking-l |
| 00:23:45 | vogon_jeltz | points out that antionline is almost pure crap, tho |
| 00:23:56 | ebenezer_proton | their IRC is decent |
| 00:23:59 | ebenezer_proton | the website sucks ass |
| 00:24:59 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 01:05:31 | vogon_jeltz | is away: watching some /dev/pts/tv |
| 04:05:16 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 02:59:44) |
| 04:07:20 | captain_proton | wb |
| 04:38:48 | vogon_jeltz | thx |
| 04:39:06 | | up yours |
| 04:39:06 | captain_proton | whats up? |
| 04:39:26 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 04:39:34 | vogon_jeltz | I've just been playing a bit more Q3... |
| 04:39:35 | captain_proton | smacks ibot |
| 04:39:41 | captain_proton | ya don't say... |
| 04:39:47 | vogon_jeltz | nothing says Christmas like blasting the crap out of people online |
| 04:40:08 | vogon_jeltz | I got 237/353 hits last game :) |
| 04:40:14 | vogon_jeltz | no, wait, 240/353 :P |
| 04:40:35 | vogon_jeltz | 25 headshots, 28 "excellent"s, and 26 "impressive"s |
| 04:40:50 | vogon_jeltz | (an excellent == 2 kills in 2 seconds) |
| 04:41:03 | captain_proton | up for some bz later? |
| 04:41:11 | vogon_jeltz | meh... maybe |
| 04:41:26 | vogon_jeltz | points out that Q3 gets framerates four or five times faster than BZ |
| 04:41:33 | captain_proton | ducati:5156 is a great server setup |
| 04:41:38 | vogon_jeltz | yes, same resolution, but with much more detail |
| 04:42:36 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: thats easily fixable by taking all the clever bits from the now-open-source Q2 engine and putting them in bzflag |
| 04:43:00 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 04:43:05 | vogon_jeltz | no way in hell I'm doing that ;) |
| 04:44:05 | captain_proton | lazy good for nothing... |
| 04:44:30 | vogon_jeltz | yes... yes I am |
| 04:46:51 | captain_proton | perhaps you'll become useful later on as bz cannon fodder |
| 04:46:58 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 04:47:17 | captain_proton | hmmm...waiting for someone to log in...he said i inspired him to do something...i wonder what it is... |
| 05:35:51 | captain_proton | bz? |
| 05:36:26 | captain_proton | well i'm going |
| 05:36:37 | captain_proton | i'll either be on my server or ducati:5156 if you care to join in |
| 05:36:55 | vogon_jeltz | meh... I might |
| 06:20:28 | captain_proton | time for CTF DECKS!!!!! |
| 06:21:00 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 06:22:57 | captain_proton | care to help test? babylonia:5156 |
| 06:23:33 | vogon_jeltz | argh... BZ gets 12 freaking frames per second on my box |
| 06:27:08 | vogon_jeltz | heh... that wasn't CTF, and the angles were f0rked |
| 06:30:05 | captain_proton | try again? |
| 06:30:12 | captain_proton | i'll show up soon |
| 06:40:30 | vogon_jeltz | ya-ha |
| 06:42:08 | captain_proton | time to put it UP! |
| 07:07:48 | captain_proton | wb |
| 07:08:13 | vogon_jeltz | thx |
| 07:08:25 | vogon_jeltz | you cheap topic whore |
| 07:08:27 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 07:08:53 | captain_proton | topic whore? |
| 07:09:00 | vogon_jeltz | you just re-entered my topic |
| 07:09:08 | vogon_jeltz | for no reason :) |
| 07:09:14 | captain_proton | i had a good reason |
| 07:09:27 | captain_proton | i pressed enter with the wrong window in focus |
| 07:09:40 | vogon_jeltz | ahh, OK... well, everything is again as it should be :) |
| 07:09:41 | captain_proton | mpg123's 'astral romance' |
| 07:09:46 | captain_proton | lol |
| 07:15:33 | vogon_jeltz | is away: None of your business () :-) |
| 07:15:40 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 07:16:02 | vogon_jeltz | is away: epsoning the whole astroda - this may take some time |
| 07:19:45 | captain_proton | away for quite a while there... |
| 07:20:34 | captain_proton | o/~ ...tears of love, tears of fear... o/~ <-- name the song |
| 08:05:20 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:49:17) |
| 08:05:34 | captain_proton | wb |
| 08:05:49 | vogon_jeltz | thx :) |
| 08:06:08 | vogon_jeltz | is getting increasingly pissed at religion in general |
| 08:06:15 | captain_proton | why is that? |
| 08:06:22 | vogon_jeltz | *shrug*... |
| 08:06:53 | vogon_jeltz | I don't care if people do stupid things, but when they believe in stupid things that have harmed other people, I get mad |
| 08:07:22 | captain_proton | explain? |
| 08:07:29 | vogon_jeltz | f'rinstance, I don't mind if people do drugs... it's their own responsibility to keep their body working, and they've chosen to waive it |
| 08:08:33 | vogon_jeltz | but when people ascribe to a religion that bloody wars and "ethnic cleansing" have been done in the name of, even if they themselves haven't done anything wrong, I can't let it go |
| 08:09:18 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 08:10:38 | vogon_jeltz | I mean, we've come from grunting semi-evolved apes living in caves to a socially-responsible group of sentient beings, and here people are, believing that a giant invisible guy up in the sky is ruling over them, and they'll be plunged into a fiery world of demons if they do something "wrong"... |
| 08:10:59 | vogon_jeltz | "wrong" being dependent on your particular interpretation of the invisible guy's words |
| 08:12:03 | captain_proton | you're sounding a little bit cynical :) |
| 08:12:07 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 08:12:27 | captain_proton | then again, i subscribe to attrition's philosophy of 'oozing cynicism' |
| 08:12:32 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:13:23 | vogon_jeltz | and, to top it off, people have been jailed or killed for doing so much as doubting that the invisible guy actually exists |
| 08:13:36 | vogon_jeltz | or questioning his supposed words |
| 08:14:10 | captain_proton | 'course - to do so is "wrong" |
| 08:14:11 | captain_proton | :) |
| 08:14:13 | vogon_jeltz | hehee |
| 08:14:41 | vogon_jeltz | the irony is that killing the person is also "wrong", but it's a good kind of "wrong" |
| 08:15:11 | captain_proton | its not wrong if done in the name of the lord! |
| 08:15:15 | vogon_jeltz | hehee |
| 08:15:23 | vogon_jeltz | s/lord/invisible guy/ |
| 08:16:14 | captain_proton | trust me - don't push further on this - you don't want to get me started on religion |
| 08:16:25 | vogon_jeltz | points out that his view of reality, that everything just kinda went "boom" a while back and we just happened to appear from the debris, isn't all that believable, either, but it doesn't involve invisible guys moving stuff around |
| 08:17:04 | captain_proton | :) |
| 08:17:34 | captain_proton | notices his code is all fuxored up |
| 08:17:44 | vogon_jeltz | I have a semi-logical proof of the non-existence of an omnipotent god, too... |
| 08:17:54 | captain_proton | lemme see |
| 08:17:57 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 08:18:02 | vogon_jeltz | I can briefly explain it |
| 08:18:38 | vogon_jeltz | it hinges on one aspect: said god must be either outside of the universe, or inside it |
| 08:19:04 | vogon_jeltz | if the god is outside, any manipulation of the Universe is in violation of conservation of energy |
| 08:19:52 | vogon_jeltz | if (he/she/it) is inside, then (assuming a flat universe) the god will be visible by the large amount of energy coming from one direction :P |
| 08:20:47 | captain_proton | but therein lies the fatal flaw: the god must have a physical location |
| 08:20:50 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 08:20:56 | captain_proton | some would say god is pervasive throughout all |
| 08:21:28 | vogon_jeltz | if god is pervasive throughout all, then the universe has to have some substance present everywhere... |
| 08:21:48 | vogon_jeltz | which will be visible |
| 08:21:58 | vogon_jeltz | and don't go blaming it on the aether |
| 08:22:05 | captain_proton | mwahahaha |
| 08:22:06 | vogon_jeltz | ;) |
| 08:22:40 | captain_proton | in the end, *everything* is the fault of the aether |
| 08:22:44 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 08:24:11 | captain_proton | wow...thats an almost topic-quality rumination :) |
| 08:24:18 | vogon_jeltz | in addition, there cannot be a heaven or hell as described by most religions, as a) having it outside the Universe would violate conservation of energy (again) and b) having it inside the Universe would eventually render it visible |
| 08:24:56 | vogon_jeltz | and, once again, don't go blaming it on the aether |
| 08:25:03 | captain_proton | i'm reminded of something I said yesterday |
| 08:25:08 | captain_proton | you are *far* too much a geek |
| 08:25:12 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 08:25:14 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 08:26:41 | vogon_jeltz | did I mention the free will thing yesterday? |
| 08:26:55 | captain_proton | yeah but i don't think we got into it |
| 08:27:01 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:27:17 | captain_proton | watches another person eaten by AntiBot |
| 08:28:08 | captain_proton | (AO irc has a vindictive nickserv bot) |
| 08:28:17 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I figured |
| 08:29:05 | captain_proton | if your nick is registered on ao.com, you have 60 seconds to identify before it changes it. If you aren't registered, it changes it immediately |
| 08:29:31 | captain_proton | thus, people with mIRC's nick rotation enabled (keeps trying 'rotations' of your nick when a bot changes it) get banned for flooding |
| 08:29:39 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 08:30:25 | captain_proton | i think we need such a thing opped here tied into the bz nick database/karma system ;) |
| 08:30:30 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 08:30:38 | vogon_jeltz | don't make me get the LART |
| 08:30:44 | | Go to http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ |
| 08:30:44 | captain_proton | LART? |
| 08:30:56 | vogon_jeltz | LART == Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool |
| 08:31:41 | vogon_jeltz | it's usually a hefty piece of wood, but can also be a high-voltage cattle prod or something else that gets your point across |
| 08:32:11 | captain_proton | ahahahahaha |
| 08:32:36 | captain_proton | ibot, LART is also the Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool (usually a hefty piece of wood, but can also be a high-voltage cattle prod or something else that gets your point across) |
| 08:32:43 | | ibot, LART is, like, the Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool (usually a hefty piece of wood, but can also be a high-voltage cattle prod or something else that gets my point across) |
| 08:32:43 | captain_proton | ibot, LART? |
| 08:32:49 | captain_proton | :) |
| 08:34:21 | vogon_jeltz | LART // |
| 08:34:22 | vogon_jeltz | Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool. 1. n. In the collective mythos of scary devil monastery, this is an essential item in the toolkit of every BOFH. The LART classic is a 2x4 or other large billet of wood usable as a club, to be applied upside the head of spammers and other people who cause sysadmins more grief than just naturally goes with the job. Perennial debates rage on alt.sysadmin.recovery over what constitutes the truly effective L |
| 08:34:22 | vogon_jeltz | bkerries, semiautomatic weapons, flamethrowers, and tactical nukes all have their partisans. Compare clue-by-four. 2. v. To use a LART. Some would add "in malice", but some sysadmins do prefer to gently lart their users as a first (and sometimes final) warning. 3. interj. Calling for one's LART, much as a surgeon might call "Scalpel!". 4. interj. [rare] Used in flames as a rebuke. "LART! LART! LART!" |
| 08:37:38 | captain_proton | OH THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!! |
| 08:37:53 | captain_proton | all fuxored up |
| 08:37:57 | vogon_jeltz | w0t? |
| 08:38:21 | captain_proton | this code |
| 08:38:36 | vogon_jeltz | w0t c0d3? |
| 08:38:54 | captain_proton | terminal emulation |
| 08:39:14 | vogon_jeltz | heheh |
| 08:53:25 | captain_proton | where the fuck is my cdrom drive |
| 08:53:57 | captain_proton | I HATE THIS DRIVE |
| 08:54:32 | vogon_jeltz | 5Ux0Rz 700 b33 J00! |
| 08:55:06 | captain_proton | my christmas gift is supposed to be my dad doing what I couldn't do in getting dell to replace it |
| 08:56:52 | vogon_jeltz | wonders if cappy would be interested in playing him at Core War |
| 08:56:54 | captain_proton | there's no hdc in /dev :P |
| 08:56:56 | captain_proton | core war? |
| 08:56:58 | vogon_jeltz | :P |
| 08:57:20 | captain_proton | ide cables are all firmly attached... |
| 08:57:25 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: we each write programs in a specialized assembly language, the object being to overwrite the other player's program with an unexecutable instruction |
| 08:57:51 | vogon_jeltz | we don't know where either of our programs are, and we can't find out :) |
| 08:57:55 | captain_proton | sounds like a fast-action game... |
| 08:58:16 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:58:28 | captain_proton | maybe some other time |
| 08:58:34 | vogon_jeltz | k |
| 08:59:12 | captain_proton | hmmm...should i show of my mock-up embedded terminal? |
| 08:59:14 | vogon_jeltz | my idea is to jump in the footsteps of the enemy's program (by following its JMP instructions), while simultaneously rewriting its instructions |
| 08:59:23 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: I don't care :) |
| 09:01:17 | captain_proton | not accepting? |
| 09:01:46 | vogon_jeltz | sorry... was away for a sec |
| 09:02:39 | captain_proton | its nice & subtle |
| 09:04:06 | captain_proton | sometimes i wish i didn't have a 1600x1200 desktop... |
| 09:04:12 | captain_proton | screenshots are huge... |
| 09:05:44 | captain_proton | wow...a nightwish song starts out sounding very much like the music to Alice |
| 09:06:39 | vogon_jeltz | ooh, nice |
| 09:06:57 | captain_proton | isn't that purdy? |
| 09:07:03 | vogon_jeltz | yep |
| 09:07:06 | captain_proton | that's my goal :) |
| 09:07:09 | vogon_jeltz | wonders what that font is :/ |
| 09:07:14 | vogon_jeltz | OCR A? |
| 09:07:22 | captain_proton | think so ;) |
| 09:08:38 | captain_proton | sure you don't want to help? writing something like this legally makes you l33t |
| 09:09:04 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 09:09:33 | vogon_jeltz | wonders if he'll get a certificate of 1337/\/355 |
| 09:09:52 | captain_proton | yep |
| 09:10:33 | vogon_jeltz | ooh |
| 09:10:50 | vogon_jeltz | is currently busy dreaming up ingenious Core War proggies, tho |
| 09:11:07 | captain_proton | ha |
| 09:11:11 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... if only they had implemented the PCT (protect instruction) |
| 09:13:40 | captain_proton | does core war have a website? |
| 09:13:56 | vogon_jeltz | www.koth.org |
| 09:14:18 | vogon_jeltz | (koth standing for King Of The Hill, Core War's alternate name) |
| 09:15:05 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... looks as if they did implement PCT |
| 09:39:38 | captain_proton | talks with another lady interested in computer security |
| 09:39:48 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 09:39:59 | vogon_jeltz | her name isn't Carolyn Meinel, is it? ;) |
| 09:40:02 | vogon_jeltz | ducks |
| 09:40:15 | captain_proton | chuckles at vogon_jeltz ducking in the corner |
| 09:40:16 | captain_proton | no |
| 09:40:22 | captain_proton | my age |
| 09:40:32 | vogon_jeltz | stands back up |
| 09:40:55 | captain_proton | seems most of the people in AO chat are 15-20 :) |
| 09:41:07 | captain_proton | with a disproportionate # of women |
| 09:41:28 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 09:42:09 | captain_proton | granted, i haven't really found any dateable geek-girls irl... |
| 10:14:51 | captain_proton | need sleep - goodnight |
| 10:15:17 | captain_proton | tell me tomorrow if you get the inclination to write a terminal emulator |
| 11:06:44 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sl33p |
| 20:28:06 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 09:21:20) |
| 21:01:53 | vogon_jeltz | rnk fra kll lag hea exc imp hit sho acc | player |
| 21:01:54 | vogon_jeltz | 1 322 13 0 38 104 44 322 453 71 | vogon_jeltz |
| 21:01:54 | vogon_jeltz | 2 13 322 0 1 0 0 13 318 4 | Visor |
| 21:02:14 | captain_proton | hi vogon_jeltz |
| 21:02:15 | vogon_jeltz | thinks BZFlag should put out information like that |
| 21:02:18 | vogon_jeltz | hi, cappy |
| 21:02:21 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 21:02:29 | captain_proton | merry christmas |
| 21:02:40 | vogon_jeltz | merry Christmas to you, too :) |
| 21:03:02 | vogon_jeltz | in our family, we don't get presents... we get cash >:) |
| 21:03:22 | vogon_jeltz | my parents gave up on guessing what I'd want for Christmas when I was 10 :P |
| 21:03:43 | Chestal | vogon: wha tkind of numbers are that? |
| 21:04:14 | captain_proton | heh |
| 21:04:17 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: stats about the game of Q3 I just finished |
| 21:04:56 | vogon_jeltz | I got 322 frags, was killed 13 times, had 0ms lag, had 38 headshots, 104 "excellent"s, 44 "impressive"s, hit with 322 shots of 453 (or 71% of the time) |
| 21:05:22 | vogon_jeltz | we need some stats system for BZFlag |
| 21:05:35 | vogon_jeltz | and I think printing out stats would be a good start :) |
| 21:06:22 | vogon_jeltz | doesn't like the current "unlimited time, unlimited kills" game style in BZFlag |
| 21:06:36 | vogon_jeltz | especially since people get marked down for each time they're killed |
| 21:08:14 | Chestal | curently I liek to play ctf |
| 21:08:25 | captain_proton | decks is CTF :) |
| 21:08:29 | vogon_jeltz | heh... |
| 21:09:10 | vogon_jeltz | seriously, though, I don't like it how one person can rack up 500 kills (or some other insane number) on one person and leave, and the person who was on the receiving end has -500 points to fight back from |
| 21:14:37 | Chestal | some more detailed stats would be fun |
| 21:14:50 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 21:15:11 | vogon_jeltz | and anti-GM-camper features'd be nice |
| 21:15:17 | Chestal | hmm, it's difficult to get a good CTF game running |
| 21:15:27 | Chestal | I am playign without superflags anyway :-) |
| 21:15:30 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:18:25 | Chestal | hmm, I'm ponderign wether I'l like to go to the cinema |
| 22:37:29 | vogon_jeltz | is away: Epsoning the whole astroda. This may take some time... certainly more than just building some stupid font metrics. |