| 00:10:54 | captain_proton | ooh - quake II source is GPL! |
| 00:19:27 | vogon_jeltz | seen it |
| 00:36:00 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: we need another BZ player |
| 00:36:27 | captain_proton | up for it> |
| 00:36:28 | captain_proton | ? |
| 00:36:34 | captain_proton | if so, its the ducati red-green server |
| 00:36:43 | captain_proton | we need 1 more green due to a paused |
| 00:38:31 | vogon_jeltz | later |
| 00:38:41 | vogon_jeltz | is eating and playing Freeciv right now |
| 00:53:01 | MIKE{wb} | anybody seen illfed around? |
| 00:54:17 | vogon_jeltz | is away: TV |
| 00:59:10 | MIKE{wb} | i gotta find maps that will work with the new server |
| 03:12:55 | captain_proton | I think MIKE{wb} == MORPHEUS :P |
| 04:24:13 | abs | lo fellas |
| 05:01:41 | | bzflag is TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps |
| 05:01:41 | captain_proton | ibot, bzflag? |
| 05:54:10 | captain_proton | MWAHAHAHAHA |
| 05:58:24 | captain_proton | hey BZFlag - you here? |
| 05:58:27 | abs | have sshot cpt? |
| 05:58:57 | captain_proton | abs: its not ready for a screenshot |
| 05:59:04 | abs | ok |
| 05:59:27 | abs | what app is used to create or convert to sgi's image file format? |
| 06:00:27 | captain_proton | don't remember :P |
| 06:00:38 | captain_proton | oh wait |
| 06:00:44 | captain_proton | you can always use the GIMP :) |
| 06:00:55 | abs | ok |
| 06:03:10 | abs | though, not really in the mood to install xfree |
| 06:03:43 | captain_proton | lol |
| 06:04:13 | abs | graphic converter or debabelizer should convert it |
| 06:05:24 | captain_proton | probably |
| 06:18:16 | abs | wheres the j2 map editor? |
| 06:19:55 | captain_proton | j2 map editor? |
| 06:25:13 | abs | -Map editor |
| 06:25:14 | abs | Status: Java2 editor is working, but one using BFlag's own engine is planned |
| 06:25:23 | captain_proton | ohhhh |
| 06:25:30 | captain_proton | the java2 editor is hard to find |
| 06:25:36 | abs | you have it? |
| 06:25:39 | captain_proton | no |
| 06:25:45 | captain_proton | i wrote my own for GNOME :) |
| 06:26:27 | abs | heh |
| 06:26:47 | abs | hook me up w/ source and i'll try and port it to osx |
| 06:27:00 | captain_proton | good luck |
| 06:27:05 | abs | actually thats why i wanted the j2 one, to aquafy it : ) |
| 06:27:10 | captain_proton | current (unstable, missing crap) is in bzflag CVS |
| 06:27:15 | abs | ok |
| 06:27:42 | EddieNull | heh, re proton |
| 06:28:07 | captain_proton | hi EddieNull |
| 06:44:57 | captain_proton | oh my god...i just had a killer idea |
| 06:45:04 | captain_proton | embed vim into my background |
| 06:45:07 | captain_proton | to leave myself notes |
| 07:46:37 | vogon_jeltz | is away: Saturday Night Live |
| 09:00:24 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 01:13:47) |
| 09:00:45 | captain_proton | wb |
| 09:00:53 | captain_proton | whats up? |
| 09:01:38 | captain_proton | check the title |
| 09:01:41 | captain_proton | topic i mean |
| 09:05:20 | vogon_jeltz | :/ |
| 09:05:27 | vogon_jeltz | it has? :) |
| 09:05:34 | captain_proton | mostly |
| 09:05:56 | vogon_jeltz | heheh |
| 09:06:11 | captain_proton | just a bit more hacking and it will be where it was previously |
| 09:06:24 | vogon_jeltz | c00l |
| 09:06:30 | captain_proton | then I make the score list(s) a toggle thing (like tab in CS) |
| 09:06:35 | captain_proton | and add a circular compass |
| 09:06:53 | captain_proton | and move shit around |
| 09:07:02 | captain_proton | and ask that it be applied to CVS :) |
| 09:07:05 | vogon_jeltz | my hair has started to go crazy on me |
| 09:07:15 | captain_proton | hey - i played about 30 minutes with schoeneman tonight |
| 09:07:19 | vogon_jeltz | I have a natural afro, for some odd reason |
| 09:07:27 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: hmm... sorry I missed it :P |
| 09:07:43 | captain_proton | he's a decent player, probably about my level |
| 09:08:04 | vogon_jeltz | has noticed something about his FPS skills |
| 09:08:12 | captain_proton | whats that? |
| 09:08:18 | vogon_jeltz | I never seem to learn anything between sessions... |
| 09:08:28 | vogon_jeltz | but as I continue a play session, I get better and better |
| 09:09:00 | vogon_jeltz | the trick with BZFlag (since nobody sets score or time limits) is to make sure I'm good enough later on to make up for my crappitude in the beginning |
| 09:09:45 | vogon_jeltz | points out that whenever he plays Tribes2, he steadily improves, starting near last place, but getting up into the top 10% of the players by the end of his play session |
| 09:10:04 | captain_proton | lol |
| 09:10:23 | vogon_jeltz | now, if only my XFree didn't crash about 20 minutes in >:| |
| 09:10:46 | captain_proton | bwahahahaha |
| 09:10:49 | vogon_jeltz | (yes, that only happens with Tribes2, but the performance in BZFlag has gotten steadily worse) |
| 09:11:14 | vogon_jeltz | the only FPS I can play for extended periods is Quake 3 |
| 09:11:39 | vogon_jeltz | and my crappitude is more evident there |
| 09:12:42 | captain_proton | chris told me that he lost bzflag 1.6 due to a disk failure |
| 09:12:49 | captain_proton | and that it had occlusion culling in it :P |
| 09:12:54 | vogon_jeltz | fark |
| 09:12:57 | vogon_jeltz | :/ |
| 09:13:56 | captain_proton | he said the framerate wasn't really any better but it was steady |
| 09:14:05 | captain_proton | in that it wouldn't drop when the scene got complex |
| 09:14:11 | vogon_jeltz | good |
| 09:14:12 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 09:14:57 | captain_proton | care to write up an occlusion culling algorithm? |
| 09:15:02 | vogon_jeltz | mebbe |
| 09:15:06 | captain_proton | its not hard - you'd just have to add normals to every surface |
| 09:15:14 | vogon_jeltz | ergh... |
| 09:15:28 | vogon_jeltz | bunzip2's the part of his brain dedicated to vector math |
| 09:15:29 | captain_proton | but once thats done all you need is a dot product and a few multiplies |
| 09:15:32 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 09:15:39 | captain_proton | hah |
| 09:17:06 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... are you capable of receiving DCC on your end? |
| 09:17:14 | captain_proton | yah |
| 09:17:17 | captain_proton | why? |
| 09:17:34 | vogon_jeltz | I wanted to DCC you an MP3 I found, but it's not working :/ |
| 09:17:45 | captain_proton | what kind of mp3? |
| 09:17:50 | vogon_jeltz | anyway, it's at http://icculus.org/~vogon/taliban.mp3 |
| 09:17:55 | vogon_jeltz | it's a comedy sketch |
| 09:33:19 | captain_proton | hrm...gotta remember to disconnect before i go to sleep...my dad got mad at me for leaving it dialed in overnight |
| 09:33:23 | captain_proton | too used to the LAN |
| 09:34:00 | vogon_jeltz | heh... |
| 09:34:13 | captain_proton | hey sekn |
| 09:34:18 | vogon_jeltz | points out that phone service and his ISP are free, so it doesn't matter :) |
| 09:34:37 | vogon_jeltz | well, the phone service is flat-rate, not free |
| 09:34:48 | captain_proton | well, same here (unlimited access ISP), flat-rate phone, but still |
| 09:34:53 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:37:34 | captain_proton | what, no greeting sekn? |
| 09:37:35 | captain_proton | how rude |
| 09:37:53 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 09:38:20 | captain_proton | ahhh - think i got the radar border nearly working |
| 09:38:28 | vogon_jeltz | nice |
| 09:39:13 | captain_proton | oops the radar picture is offset 1 pixel each eay |
| 09:39:18 | captain_proton | s/eay/way/g |
| 09:39:21 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:43:18 | sekn | oh - hi yall |
| 09:43:37 | captain_proton | hihi sekn |
| 09:43:43 | captain_proton | how goes the install? |
| 09:43:53 | sekn | maybe done |
| 09:44:05 | captain_proton | done? got everything you wanted? |
| 09:44:12 | captain_proton | or is just the base system done? |
| 09:44:25 | sekn | everything |
| 09:45:32 | captain_proton | you pulled the init scripts from LFS? I forgot to include them on the CD ... <g> |
| 09:50:48 | captain_proton | oh sekn: i came up with a killer idea for dm |
| 09:50:55 | captain_proton | embeddable vim's |
| 09:52:29 | captain_proton | i have to go |
| 09:52:30 | captain_proton | see yas |
| 11:19:10 | vogon_jeltz | is away: SNL |
| 12:30:42 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sleep |
| 17:29:59 | Chestal | we should do some kind of auto-team assignment on joining for CTF games |
| 17:42:41 | |ks| | as an option, perhaps... you could end up with teams with unbalanced ability in some circumstances |
| 18:05:34 | Chestal | balancing abilities is more complex of course |
| 18:05:48 | Chestal | I am currently running a patched ctf server with a random world |
| 18:05:55 | Chestal | 2 teams, max. team size 4 players |
| 18:06:18 | Chestal | but with uneven team counts it's very tough for the smaller team |
| 18:06:29 | Chestal | even 2:3 is too unfair at most times, 3:4 is ok I guess |
| 18:06:58 | Chestal | and of course individual score in ctf games isn't very meaningful |
| 19:51:56 | abs | lo fellas |
| 19:53:41 | Chestal | hi abs |
| 19:53:55 | Chestal | abs: what's your bz callsign? |
| 19:55:09 | captain_proton | hey chestal |
| 19:55:16 | captain_proton | i like your team play setup on ducati |
| 19:55:39 | Chestal | I'm glad you like it |
| 19:55:57 | Chestal | it's difficult to find enough players such that the teams are even, though |
| 19:56:15 | Chestal | game is best with 3:3 or 4:4 |
| 19:58:35 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 20:01:07 | abs | yo'momma and/or abstract |
| 22:37:43 | Chestal | that was a fun ctf game |