| 04:04:12 | captain_proton | returns |
| 04:04:18 | vogon_jeltz | wb' |
| 04:04:25 | captain_proton | hi |
| 04:05:11 | captain_proton | got a blister on his toe |
| 04:05:16 | vogon_jeltz | oof... |
| 04:11:40 | |ks| | playing bz with a foot pedal? |
| 04:12:21 | captain_proton | no - walking across campus in patent leather shoes |
| 04:14:09 | captain_proton | admires his glibc build |
| 04:20:31 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: you should run duquawk linux when its done :) |
| 04:21:04 | vogon_jeltz | maybe |
| 04:21:13 | captain_proton | its gonna be the best |
| 04:21:34 | captain_proton | GCC 3.0, X 4.1, XFS, glibc 2.2.4, etc |
| 04:22:02 | captain_proton | no package management :) |
| 04:22:11 | vogon_jeltz | lol |
| 04:22:43 | captain_proton | (basically our own imitation of slack) |
| 04:23:16 | iLLf8d | sounds like crux |
| 04:23:36 | iLLf8d | http://www.fukt.bth.se/~per/crux/ |
| 04:23:58 | iLLf8d | actually it has a package system of sorts though I think |
| 04:25:54 | captain_proton | sortof - looks like they have an auto untar-configure-build-install script |
| 04:27:35 | captain_proton | but the real point is to say "I made a linux distro" |
| 04:28:18 | captain_proton | goes out to have a build party with one of his fellow distroers |
| 04:28:24 | iLLf8d | whats it gonna be called proton linux |
| 04:28:25 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 04:28:31 | captain_proton | duquawk linux |
| 04:28:48 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 04:28:50 | captain_proton | at least thats the working name we have |
| 04:28:52 | iLLf8d | catchy mainstream name |
| 04:29:03 | captain_proton | we might choose 'duck linux' |
| 04:29:23 | captain_proton | :%s/tux image/duck image/g |
| 04:29:54 | captain_proton | well i'm off |
| 04:29:56 | captain_proton | ttyl |
| 04:33:25 | captain_proton | hmmm he wasn't there |
| 04:33:49 | iLL_away | who? |
| 04:33:50 | iLL_away | heh |
| 04:33:58 | iLL_away | oh your compiler bud |
| 04:33:59 | iLL_away | heh |
| 04:37:34 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 04:37:42 | captain_proton | now its time to build GCC |
| 04:38:15 | |ks| | building gcc... that's a fun task... |
| 04:38:22 | captain_proton | its not that bad |
| 04:38:48 | |ks| | step one, find a compiler... step 2, compile gcc... step 3, compile gcc... step 4, compile gcc =) |
| 04:39:04 | captain_proton | already has gcc, he is just compiling a new one |
| 04:39:32 | captain_proton | besides, 3.0+ builds xgcc, which builds gcc :) |
| 04:39:40 | |ks| | the only time I've ever built it was on an IPX several years ago... took me pretty much all day (I did all three builds, iirc) |
| 04:40:23 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: you understand compiler bootstrapping, right? |
| 04:42:26 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: yes |
| 04:42:38 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: good... :) |
| 04:43:13 | vogon_jeltz | would like to point out that xgcc *is* gcc, but only comprised of the functions that can be implemented in pure assembly |
| 04:43:25 | captain_proton | yes i know |
| 04:43:35 | captain_proton | but it makes it easy to compile gcc |
| 04:53:26 | captain_proton | watches the commands fly by |
| 04:54:31 | captain_proton | tries to run visual studio in wine |
| 04:56:27 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 04:58:13 | captain_proton | damn didn't work :( |
| 05:03:11 | iLL_away | captain proton drinks wine while running visual studio |
| 05:03:13 | iLL_away | works |
| 05:03:59 | captain_proton | no compiling windows binaries in linux :( |
| 05:04:16 | captain_proton | specifically, windows bzflag binaries |
| 05:04:23 | captain_proton | now that BZFlag pointed out what i've been doing wrong |
| 05:05:43 | captain_proton | admires his gcc build |
| 05:09:04 | captain_proton | configures binutils |
| 05:09:11 | captain_proton | heh - this is the easy part |
| 05:14:55 | captain_proton | restarts his bzflag server |
| 05:15:36 | vogon_jeltz | wonders how secure his new 15-char password is |
| 05:18:14 | captain_proton | wonders what to build next |
| 05:19:33 | |ks| | vogon: depends on the hash being used to store it =) |
| 05:28:59 | captain_proton | argh |
| 05:29:04 | captain_proton | where the hell is my compilation buddy? |
| 05:30:00 | captain_proton | and of course nobody is playing bz... |
| 05:30:25 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 05:37:59 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: can you look at my list of gnu stuff i'm planning to include and make suggestions? |
| 05:39:48 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... sure |
| 05:42:39 | captain_proton | keep in mind that we're trying to stay small & fast |
| 05:43:06 | vogon_jeltz | and that's where emacs comes in... ;) |
| 05:43:40 | vogon_jeltz | can I suggest stuff other than GNU stuff? :) |
| 05:43:43 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 05:43:58 | captain_proton | is working on a script to build all the desired parts of GNU |
| 05:44:38 | captain_proton | actually - go ahead - just PM me with it |
| 05:44:41 | vogon_jeltz | looks fine here :) |
| 06:00:54 | |ks| | logo... include a logo interpreter =) |
| 06:01:11 | captain_proton | logo? |
| 06:01:33 | |ks| | turtle graphics? |
| 06:01:52 | |ks| | REPEAT 4 [ FORWARD 100 RIGHT 90 ] |
| 06:02:02 | |ks| | suddenly feels old =) |
| 06:02:11 | vogon_jeltz | logo 0wnz j00 |
| 06:02:39 | |ks| | it was popular language for introducing gradeschoolers to computer programming in the 80s |
| 06:09:32 | captain_proton | wb |
| 06:09:40 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 06:11:53 | BZFlag | apt-get install ucblogo |
| 06:13:14 | |ks| | *that's* the project name... was trying to remember |
| 06:13:53 | captain_proton | is impressed |
| 06:13:56 | captain_proton | tar-1.13.tar.gz |
| 06:17:00 | |ks| | BZFlag: is there a preferred way to disable command-line options in the client? |
| 06:17:16 | |ks| | or is it pretty much "whatever works"? =) |
| 06:19:26 | BZFlag | |ks|: apt-cache search logo |
| 06:19:46 | BZFlag | |ks|: disable command line options? explain |
| 06:20:57 | |ks| | I want to disable the -window command-line option until such time as it works =) |
| 06:21:35 | |ks| | thought I might just disable all command-line options for the time being... OS X likes to provide some undocumented value in argv[1] when an app is started :{ |
| 06:22:39 | vogon_jeltz | I've reclaimed about 7 megs in stripped debug symbols on 4 apps :) |
| 06:27:55 | captain_proton | wow vogon_jeltz |
| 06:28:10 | captain_proton | is compiling GNU statically right now |
| 06:28:39 | BZFlag | ah, just #ifdef the help text and code fragment by your arch. |
| 06:29:46 | |ks| | ok... I'm trying to keep the amount of preprocessing down to a minimum |
| 06:30:35 | |ks| | I'm hoping I can merge what I'm writing in with the current stuff to make a Carbonized (runs on both OS Classic and OS X) version for Macs |
| 06:30:54 | |ks| | but since I've never really developed a Carbon app before, it'll take a while =) |
| 06:42:54 | captain_proton | is making much progress |
| 06:43:34 | captain_proton | BZFlag: you should give up your wimpy packages and switch to duquawk linux |
| 06:43:52 | vogon_jeltz | hehehehe |
| 06:44:02 | vogon_jeltz | are you learning anything from LFS? |
| 06:44:23 | captain_proton | i learned the beginning procedure for getting glibc under everything |
| 06:45:02 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag, captain_proton: you know much about Web scripting? |
| 06:46:49 | captain_proton | what language are you thinking about |
| 06:46:57 | vogon_jeltz | PHP, Perl, whatever |
| 06:47:09 | vogon_jeltz | I just wanna drop a Nimda counter on my Web site :) |
| 06:47:44 | vogon_jeltz | I just need to call "grep '.exe' /var/log/httpd/access_log* | wc -l" |
| 06:48:02 | captain_proton | PHP is nice :) |
| 06:48:05 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 06:48:43 | captain_proton | www.php.org |
| 06:48:51 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I know :) |
| 06:49:00 | vogon_jeltz | will get to it eventually |
| 06:49:06 | BZFlag | vogon_jeltz: you can do that much with a shell script. |
| 06:49:17 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: yeah, but I need to plop it in the middle of HTMl |
| 06:49:20 | vogon_jeltz | HTML, even |
| 06:49:24 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: what is your count at? |
| 06:49:34 | vogon_jeltz | 3,152 since my last log rollover |
| 06:49:54 | BZFlag | vogon_jeltz: just echo the rest of the page. or put something like @count@ in a html page and then sed the page in the script. |
| 06:49:56 | captain_proton | *DAMN* |
| 06:50:02 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 06:50:03 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: hehe |
| 06:50:05 | captain_proton | tries |
| 06:50:08 | captain_proton | 2127 |
| 06:50:35 | vogon_jeltz | hahah! my box 0wnz j00rz! |
| 06:50:50 | vogon_jeltz | essentially, it means you live in a better neighborhood than I do |
| 06:50:54 | captain_proton | tries it on a different box |
| 06:51:09 | captain_proton | 2423 on that one |
| 06:51:11 | BZFlag | 19070 hits here. |
| 06:51:14 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: yeah, I was thinking along those lines |
| 06:51:17 | captain_proton | my personal box doesn't have any because i don't run httpd |
| 06:51:17 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: holy shiz |
| 06:51:46 | vogon_jeltz | whoa... 25 CodeRed attacks, too |
| 06:51:53 | vogon_jeltz | [root@fortytwo httpd]# grep ".id" access_log* | wc -l |
| 06:52:16 | BZFlag | course I don't roll logs till I need disk space, so that is from like April or something. |
| 06:52:26 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 06:52:39 | captain_proton | 1095 CodeRed's here |
| 06:52:47 | vogon_jeltz | yowza |
| 06:52:56 | vogon_jeltz | sounds like something's exploited on the local net |
| 06:53:02 | BZFlag | what's the codered path? |
| 06:53:14 | vogon_jeltz | it's /default.ida or /default.idq |
| 06:53:27 | vogon_jeltz | so grep ".id" access_log* | wc -l will catch it |
| 06:53:33 | BZFlag | 1402 of those. |
| 06:53:37 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 06:53:49 | vogon_jeltz | lemme check when my logs last rolled |
| 06:53:53 | captain_proton | or if you're more l33+, grep "default.id[aq]" |wc -l |
| 06:53:57 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 06:54:03 | vogon_jeltz | I was gonna do that, but... meh |
| 06:54:20 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... last log rollover was on the 23rd |
| 06:54:22 | captain_proton | our last roll was Sep 30 |
| 06:54:24 | BZFlag | heh, I settled for grep 'default.id' |
| 06:54:27 | vogon_jeltz | Sep 23... |
| 06:54:59 | captain_proton | BZFlag: my distro is going to be so 3|33+ it won't even be funny |
| 06:55:31 | vogon_jeltz | even though he didn't know about purifying libs |
| 06:55:53 | BZFlag | my error log shows another 15767 .exe entries. |
| 06:55:58 | vogon_jeltz | nice |
| 06:56:02 | captain_proton | it's basically gonna be slackware but oriented towards speed |
| 06:56:19 | | 36239 |
| 06:56:19 | BZFlag | ibot 15767 + 19070 + 1402 |
| 06:56:31 | BZFlag | new packaging format? |
| 06:56:31 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... |
| 06:56:51 | | 5756 |
| 06:56:51 | vogon_jeltz | ibot 605+588+1705+0+254+517+469+1415+10+193 |
| 06:57:01 | BZFlag | slackware "it's just a tarball" rocks. |
| 06:57:12 | | 5813 |
| 06:57:12 | vogon_jeltz | ibot 605+588+1705+0+254+517+469+1415+10+193+0+2+7+1+22+25 |
| 06:57:14 | captain_proton | BZFlag: no packaging format |
| 06:57:28 | | 2 |
| 06:57:28 | BZFlag | ibot 1+1? |
| 06:57:29 | captain_proton | it'll be an initial binary distribution |
| 06:57:39 | captain_proton | but everything else is up to the user |
| 06:57:45 | | OK, BZFlag. |
| 06:57:45 | BZFlag | ibot 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 06:57:48 | | it has been said that 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 06:57:48 | BZFlag | ibot 1+1? |
| 06:57:50 | vogon_jeltz | get this; he thought that all that was involved in building a distro was setting appropriate install paths |
| 06:58:04 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: no |
| 06:58:14 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: heh |
| 06:58:18 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: i was aware of potential horkings |
| 06:58:27 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: but didn't do anything about them... |
| 06:58:38 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: which is even dumber than not knowing about them :) |
| 06:58:42 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: but i was lazy and wanted to rely on the decent binary compatabilities in glibc |
| 06:59:16 | captain_proton | prays this works and doesn't overwrite his gcc |
| 06:59:16 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.freebsddiary.org/stats-nimda/ |
| 06:59:30 | BZFlag | TuxScreen cvs has a build tree that builds the entire distro by pulling down tarballs and patches and compiling everything. starts with the kernel, then libc, then tools, etc. |
| 06:59:53 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 06:59:55 | captain_proton | drools |
| 07:00:02 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 07:00:31 | BZFlag | course the tux distro is for arm. ;-) |
| 07:00:49 | BZFlag | takes 200M to build a 640k filesystem. ;-) |
| 07:00:49 | captain_proton | true |
| 07:01:00 | captain_proton | would have troubles doing that for ix86 |
| 07:01:20 | BZFlag | captain_proton: nah, cake. should convert to x86 easily. |
| 07:01:49 | BZFlag | the uclibc site has an x86 buildroot that builds a single floppy distro. |
| 07:01:54 | vogon_jeltz | mmm... cake |
| 07:02:03 | captain_proton | is out of cake |
| 07:02:15 | BZFlag | kernel, uClibc, busybox, tinylogin, etc. |
| 07:02:27 | captain_proton | busybox is cool |
| 07:02:32 | vogon_jeltz | tomsrtbt is nice :) |
| 07:02:47 | | bzflag: bugger all, i dunno |
| 07:02:47 | BZFlag | ibot tomsrtbt? |
| 07:02:55 | BZFlag | ibot search google for tomsrtbt? |
| 07:02:59 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: www.toms.net/bt |
| 07:02:59 | | BZFlag: Google can't find tomsrtbt |
| 07:03:09 | BZFlag | whacks ibot |
| 07:04:20 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: www.toms.net/rb, rather |
| 07:05:01 | vogon_jeltz | it's a distro that fits on 1 1722K floppy |
| 07:07:11 | BZFlag | wild. I could do better. ;-) |
| 07:07:14 | vogon_jeltz | Stuff (modules, manpages, scripts, binaries, kernel): |
| 07:07:14 | vogon_jeltz | 2.0.39 3c589_cs [ BusLogic DEC_ELCP EEXPRESS EEXPRESS_PRO100B EL2 EL3 EXT2 FAT FAT32 FD IDE IDECD IDEFLOPPY IDEPCMCIA IDETAPE ISO9660 JOLIET LOOP MATH_EMULATION MINIX MSDOS NE2000 NFS PCNET32 PROC RAM SD SERIAL SLIP SMC SR ST TR ULTRA VFAT VORTEX WD80x3 ah152x_cs aha152x aha1542 aic7xxx ash badblocks basename bzip2 cardmgr cat ce ce.help chattr chgrp chmod chown chroot clear cmp cp cpio cut date dd ddate debugfs df dhcpcd-- dirname dmesg do |
| 07:07:15 | vogon_jeltz | ame ds du dumpe2fs e2fsck eata echo egrep elvis emacs false fdflush fdformat fdisk fdomain filesize find findsuper fmt fsck.ext2 fsck.msdos fstab grep gunzip gzip halt head hexedit hostname i82365 ifconfig ifport ile init inittab insmod kill killall killall5 length less libc.so.5.4.13 lilo lilo.conf ln loadkmap logger login losetup ls lsattr lsmod lua md5sum mingetty miterm mkdir mkdosfs mke2fs mkfifo mkfs.minix mknod mkswap mnsed more moun |
| 07:07:17 | vogon_jeltz | mv nc ncr53c8xx nmclan_cs nslookup ntfs pax pcmcia pcmcia_core pcnet_cs ping plip poweroff ppa printf ps pwd qlogic_cs qlogicfas reboot rescuept reset rm rmdir rmmod route rsh rshd script scsi_info seagate sed serial_cs setserial sh slattach sleep slip sln sort split strings swapoff swapon sync syslogd tail tar tcic tee telnet test touch true umount undeb-- unrpm-- update usleep vi vi.help wc wget which xargs xirc2ps_cs yes zcat |
| 07:07:23 | vogon_jeltz | (sorry for the flood) |
| 07:08:16 | |ks| | 2.0.39: command not found |
| 07:08:29 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 07:08:31 | vogon_jeltz | that's the kernel |
| 07:08:45 | |ks| | refrains from interpreting the remaining lines as shell commands |
| 07:08:48 | captain_proton | no Ext3 though :( |
| 07:08:52 | BZFlag | heh, still an ancient kernel. I could do it with a 2.4 kernel and have pivot_root there too. ;-) |
| 07:09:10 | captain_proton | challenges BZFlag to make good on that |
| 07:10:23 | BZFlag | ftp://oss.lineo.com/buildroot.tar.gz <- try that one. ;-) |
| 07:10:46 | vogon_jeltz | hehehe |
| 07:10:58 | captain_proton | whacks ibot |
| 07:11:00 | BZFlag | untar and type make. poof! a distro on a floppy. |
| 07:11:43 | captain_proton | thats cheating BZFlag |
| 07:11:53 | BZFlag | no it's not. I helped build that one. |
| 07:12:17 | |ks| | it's not cheating to let someone else do the hard work... saves more time for playing games =) |
| 07:12:18 | captain_proton | excuses, excuses |
| 07:20:08 | captain_proton | turns up the radiator |
| 07:20:19 | vogon_jeltz | http://rhizome.org/carnivore/ |
| 07:20:27 | captain_proton | is that the GNU carnivore? |
| 07:20:29 | vogon_jeltz | that is the l33test thing I've seen since electricsheep |
| 07:20:33 | vogon_jeltz | yes |
| 07:23:52 | captain_proton | has 2 gnu utils left to go before he can chroot |
| 07:26:48 | captain_proton | done!! |
| 07:27:18 | BZFlag | http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbsnoop/ <- more 1eet stuph |
| 07:27:43 | BZFlag | captain_proton: busybox and tinylogin? ;-) |
| 07:28:37 | captain_proton | BZFlag: no - static GNU stuff |
| 07:34:15 | captain_proton | finishes setting up his jail and goes to sleep |
| 07:34:44 | BZFlag | captain_proton: why? bb and tl are smaller, and uclibc will so dynamic bindings. |
| 07:34:57 | captain_proton | i'm not going for a distro-on-a-floppy |
| 07:35:06 | BZFlag | then run the debian library reducer and your .so's will shrink. |
| 07:35:11 | BZFlag | oh. ok. |
| 07:35:17 | captain_proton | i'm going for a full distro with the latest and greatest but oriented towards speed |
| 07:36:06 | captain_proton | i will strip everything though :0 |
| 07:36:57 | captain_proton | goodnight tim |
| 07:37:59 | vogon_jeltz | is away: watching Late Friday |
| 07:41:05 | BZFlag | a full static distro would be huge. |
| 07:41:56 | BZFlag | possible, but huge. run time would be marginally faster, but ram and disk space would increase a lot and application load times will increase. |
| 07:42:23 | BZFlag | so overall performance would appear slower. |
| 08:31:34 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:53:35) |
| 11:13:25 | vogon_jeltz | is away: ... need some sleep before I get up and map some more ... |
| 12:39:35 | Chestal | hi |
| 13:08:16 | lupinator | hallo |
| 13:09:06 | lupinator | i had to remove the chat script |
| 13:21:21 | Chestal | ah, why? |
| 13:27:47 | lupinator | my provider sent a mail |
| 13:28:15 | lupinator | they say they changed the terms of use in june |
| 13:28:24 | lupinator | so no chat scripts are allowed |
| 14:02:48 | Chestal | ah, too bad |
| 14:02:57 | Chestal | well, it wasn't that useful withotu a tournament |
| 14:03:07 | Chestal | although some people were using it I guess |
| 15:55:25 | Chestal | quiet today |
| 17:08:35 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 18:29:03 | BZFlag | try rikers.org:6666 and tell me what happens. |
| 18:43:34 | captain_proton | BZFlag: not a static distro - i just need a static GNU to compile things against a new glibc |
| 18:46:26 | Chestal | BZFlag: workign on the protocol? |
| 19:18:01 | ctl | hi |
| 19:18:24 | ctl | does anyone know of a server listing page which works? |
| 19:18:42 | Chestal | hmm, the default one works for me from within bzflag |
| 19:18:52 | Chestal | so "find server" does not work for you? |
| 19:20:50 | captain_proton | oops |
| 19:20:54 | captain_proton | forgot to compile cat |
| 19:25:51 | captain_proton | DAMNIT! |
| 19:38:30 | captain_proton | starts compiling a clean glibc |
| 19:44:06 | Chestal | digs through bzflag code and sees that rendering / ui stuff is distributed over nearly every file |
| 19:46:02 | captain_proton | now you see why a new HUD is so much fun :) |
| 19:48:14 | Chestal | tries to create a non-ui bzflag client |
| 19:49:53 | Chestal | waaah, some basic Geometry stuff like Rays is in libGeometry and libGeometry needs GL stuff |
| 19:50:57 | Chestal | I think it's too much effort :-( |
| 20:03:34 | BZFlag | is here. |
| 20:03:39 | captain_proton | hi BZFlag |
| 20:03:41 | BZFlag | I'm adding the playerid patch to cvs. |
| 20:03:54 | BZFlag | it still has a few bugs, but nothing major. |
| 20:04:07 | BZFlag | nyou don't see yourself pick up a flag for some reason. |
| 20:04:43 | BZFlag | everyone else does, and you actually get it, it just does not move till you drop it, as far as your window shows. |
| 20:04:57 | BZFlag | heh, /me types 'n' to chat. |
| 20:09:30 | BZFlag | Chestal: needs to happen though. bots need to be ripped out, badly. |
| 20:11:30 | captain_proton | starts compiling gcc against his new glibc |
| 20:16:10 | Chestal | BZFlag: but UI stuff is all over |
| 20:16:10 | captain_proton | argh! wtf is wrong with this?!?!?!?!?! |
| 20:16:50 | Chestal | oh well, I'm going home for now, cu |
| 20:20:11 | BZFlag | test the new bzfs! ;-) |
| 20:24:58 | captain_proton | ahhh... |
| 20:25:00 | captain_proton | fixed it |
| 20:25:41 | captain_proton | watches gcc build |
| 20:36:30 | captain_proton | just got a bill from the U |
| 20:36:32 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 20:36:41 | captain_proton | $ -50.00 |
| 20:41:30 | captain_proton | WAHOO!!!!!!!! |
| 20:42:25 | captain_proton | has a gcc 3.0.1 build against glibc 2.2.4 |
| 20:43:35 | captain_proton | ooh BZFlag: i like the world file tracker |
| 20:51:16 | BZFlag | heh, cool. |
| 20:51:25 | BZFlag | commits the missile sound effect... |
| 20:52:39 | captain_proton | argh i just built a client... |
| 20:53:19 | BZFlag | heh |
| 20:53:25 | BZFlag | cvs up -PdA ;-) |
| 20:58:03 | BZFlag | captain_proton: of course worlds can be added to CVS too. that's where HiX is. |
| 20:58:40 | captain_proton | having worlds in cvs is silly :) |
| 20:58:51 | captain_proton | tries out the new client |
| 20:59:39 | BZFlag | captain_proton: why? then they will be in any distribution etc. |
| 21:00:57 | captain_proton | i have to admit that the GM sound isn't the greatest... |
| 21:01:59 | BZFlag | well, make a new one and put it in the patches. ;-) |
| 21:02:33 | BZFlag | it's better than having the same sound as normal shots, right? |
| 21:05:35 | captain_proton | possibly |
| 21:05:45 | captain_proton | it sounds really bad with a volley of GM shots... |
| 21:06:31 | BZFlag | does it sound different for someone elses shot too? |
| 21:08:41 | ctl | hello again |
| 21:08:52 | ctl | Chestal: yes, find server doesn't work for me |
| 21:09:21 | ctl | moreover, I can't get to bigfoot.com/~bzflag/ at all, from any browser, so it doesn't surprise me that bzflag can't either |
| 21:10:00 | captain_proton | i haven't noticed that BZFlag |
| 21:41:54 | BZFlag | ctl bzflag -list default |
| 21:42:31 | BZFlag | bigfoot is the _old_ list server address. |
| 22:17:49 | BZFlag | ctl: did you get the list server working? did you try "bzflag -list default" ? |