irclog2html for bzflag on 2001.10.11

00:23:48Larryhello
00:23:53vogon_jeltzhi
00:24:01Larrywho is here?
00:24:13vogon_jeltzme
00:24:37Larrywhat's your callsign?
00:24:43vogon_jeltzSIGKILL
00:25:06LarrynI'm larry
00:25:30vogon_jeltzhi
00:25:31Larrythe t-shirt is mine
00:25:34vogon_jeltz:)
00:27:47Larryis this the irc channel to be used for the competition?
00:27:54vogon_jeltzyes
00:28:13Larrynlater
00:28:33Larryntoo much tank game today
00:28:40vogon_jeltzheh
00:28:42vogon_jeltzby
00:28:42vogon_jeltzbye
01:45:29vogon_jeltzis away: playing T2
02:16:26vogon_jeltzis back (gone 00:30:56)
02:50:46captain_protonyo vogon_jeltz
02:51:11vogon_jeltzhi
02:51:20captain_protonmmmmmm
02:51:24captain_protoncookies
02:51:33vogon_jeltzmmmmmmm
02:51:45captain_protonbirthday cookies :)
02:51:52vogon_jeltzmmmmmmmmmm
02:54:13captain_protonwonders how gerbil got his page to crash both ns4 and mozilla
02:54:31vogon_jeltzahahah
02:57:15captain_protonhmm i think it was timidity that crashed it
02:57:17vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: are you talking about worldstrider.tripod.com? :)
02:57:38captain_protonyep
02:57:46vogon_jeltzthat virus thing's stupid :)
02:57:56captain_protonyes
02:58:21vogon_jeltzis there anything there but it, tho? :)
02:58:22captain_protonvaloche is gonna make me a patch for the colored control panel
02:58:24captain_protonnope
02:59:39captain_protonlol - i always knew Bert was trouble
03:05:08captain_protonwb
03:05:30vogon_jeltzhi :)
03:07:03captain_protondid you know that bert was involved with OJ?
03:08:40captain_protonsimple triple - waltz, minuet
03:08:54captain_protonsimple duple - tango, polka, mazurka, sarabande
03:09:07captain_protoncompound duple - gigue, tarantella
03:09:10vogon_jeltzno
03:09:21captain_protonmarch - 4/4, 2/4, 2/2, or 6/8
03:09:29captain_protonhttp://www.fractalcow.com/bert/bert010.htm
03:58:59vogon_jeltzis away: watching TV and trying to make my back not hurt
04:21:17tvon*yawn*
04:21:26tvonI havent played bz in almost 2 months
04:21:42tvonheres hoping this X build gets DRI working
05:45:12vogon_jeltzis back (gone 01:46:12)
06:27:04captain_protonwhats up?
06:29:55vogon_jeltzthe sky
06:30:11vogon_jeltzAmerican fighter jets
06:30:18vogon_jeltzmy computer
06:33:55vogon_jeltzoil prices
06:34:03captain_protonheh
06:34:09vogon_jeltzthe age of the Sun
06:34:38vogon_jeltzthe time left in the Tonight Show
06:34:58captain_protonme, and i shouldn't be
06:35:17vogon_jeltzheh
06:35:33captain_protoni have an exam in less than 7.5 hours...
06:35:36vogon_jeltzI've got another few hours before I'll sleep :)
06:39:22captain_protonwonders if he should attend his calc recitation
06:42:27captain_protontime to sleep...
10:15:48OnkelFrankhi - anyone home?
10:18:09Chestalyes
10:20:36OnkelFrankhi chestal
10:21:03OnkelFrankjust trying this web irc stuff...
10:21:08vogon_jeltzheh
10:21:15vogon_jeltzget yourself a real IRC client ;)
10:21:32vogon_jeltzis aka SIGKILL, btw :)
10:22:29Chestalthe whole ginky family is joining
10:22:33Chestaleh, ginku :-)
10:22:42Ginkuhallo Chestal
10:22:52Ginku_Jrhi
10:22:57vogon_jeltzI just submitted a typo-fixing patch to the Linux kernel :)
10:23:54Chestalthe Linux kernel could use a memory management patch
10:23:58vogon_jeltzsomebody accidentally typed IEEE1284_PH_DIR_UNKNOWN when they should have typed IEEE1284_PH_ECP_DIR_UNKNOWN
10:24:00OnkelFrankI have a nice irc client but the link on valoche's page showed me this way... ;)
10:24:05vogon_jeltzChestal: what kernel are you running?
10:24:13Chestalvogon_jeltz: 2.4.10
10:24:20vogon_jeltzChestal: hehe
10:24:38vogon_jeltzthat's ancient history, Chestal
10:24:41vogon_jeltzwe're up to 2.4.12
10:25:01Chestalmm probablystill sucks, it started to get really messed up with 2.4.0
10:25:15OnkelFrankkernels come faster than I change my T-shirts ;) (no really ;);)
10:25:38Chestalthat's nothing. kernels come faster than I change my underwear ;-)
10:25:57vogon_jeltzheh
10:26:24OnkelFrank*fear the smell* *eg*
10:26:46vogon_jeltz2.4.11 revved really fast because there was a huge brown-paper-bag bug in the USB code
10:27:30vogon_jeltzthey didn't even release a pre kernel for 2.4.12
10:28:08vogon_jeltzLinus just kinda wrapped up the ball of patches he had at the time and shoved them into a bz2ball
10:28:18vogon_jeltzs/ball/wad
10:29:08vogon_jeltzis away: watching the "America Gets Really Pissed at Osama bin Laden" coverage on TV
10:33:28OnkelFranklater
10:35:00ChestalI like this : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,36218,00.html
15:06:35Chestalwaah,I need ent1x04 :-)
15:32:38Valocheboo!
15:32:46Chestalhoia
15:32:57Valocheuh?
15:33:04Chestaleh?
15:33:12ChestalI set up test server ducati 5156
15:33:23Valocheis it public?
15:33:39Chestalno
15:33:47Valochek, I'll go there and look
15:52:12Valochethat timer thing is cool
15:52:30Chestalit makes me nervous
15:52:38Valochewe'll have to lurk every battle to be able to write down the scores at the end
15:53:01Chestalyes, but it's no problem
15:53:05lupinatorand it starts when the first player joins?
15:53:12Chestalif players leave you still got there score in your score list
15:53:21Chestalcountdown starts when first playerjoins
15:53:21Valochethat's right
15:53:27ChestalI wonder how we will best do it
15:53:51ValocheChestal: so it will start even when first lurker joins
15:53:52Chestalstart the server just in time, then tell people here on # to join?
15:53:58ChestalValoche: yes
15:54:30Valocheno, we need some time to check who's connected, kick unwanted players, etc.
15:54:49lupinatoryou could start it a minute before and use 16 min
15:55:04ChestalI use 1000 seconds currently (16 minutes and 40 seconds)
15:55:22Valochelet's say you setup the time limit to 2 or 3 minutes, and inform opponents that they are allowed to fire at 15:00; plus, that'll give them some time to spread over the battlefield
15:55:34ValocheI meant 17 or 18 minutes
15:57:08ChestalI think it would be best if they wouldn't drive at all bevore 15:00
15:57:26Valochethat we can't do
15:58:11Chestalwhy?
15:58:18ValocheI mean: if they wanna move, we won't be able to stop them. Plus, the spreading thing is more fair IMHO
15:58:36Valochebecause noone will pop facing back to another tank's muzzle
15:58:40Chestalhmm, it's just liek respawnign after death
15:59:24Valocheyep, but that's part of the game, we want everyone to have the same exact chances for the 1st shot
15:59:24lupinatoryet another hack: cut all incoming lines (like observers) untill 15:00 is reached
15:59:41Chestallupinator: I am not sure if this can be done
15:59:50lupinatoryou can do this
16:00:04Chestallupinator: well, I can but I am not sure what effect this would have
16:01:26lupinatorchaka
16:01:28Chestalwhich type of msgs should be blocked?
16:02:07Valocheit's msgPlayerInfo or something like that, but that won't work
16:02:44ValocheMsgPlayerUpdate
16:02:47Valochethat's the message
16:03:02lupinatorcan you change observer -> player?
16:03:57Chestallupinator: I could, but I guess it would be quite strange when you see tanks popping up at once
16:04:26ChestalI wonder if we canjust cope
16:04:46Chestalstart the server, tell people to join, time limit is 16-17 minutes
16:04:54Chestaleveryone can start playing whenever he wants
16:05:27ChestalI see no real problem with that scheme
16:05:45ValocheI know: don't relay msgShotBegin nor msgShotEnd until 15:00 is reached (that should be an easy hack)
16:05:47Chestalwhen people come late it's their own fault
16:06:07ChestalI thought about blicking the shots, also. MIght be feasible
16:06:34Chestalbut I am not sure that's better than doing nothing
16:06:38lupinatorflags?
16:07:17Valochether won't be any flags, unless 2+ people wanting flags register
16:07:36lupinatorwhen ottoman confirms there's another one
16:08:38Valocheyep, but actually, 10 people don't want flags vs. 6 people, if I count the non confirmed ones
16:08:54lupinatortime for a meal
16:09:01Chestalsomeone else didnn't vote either way, Gerbil?
16:09:06Valocheand still, msgGrabFlag and msgDropFlag can be blocked
16:09:16ValocheGerbil doesn't care about flag, you're right
16:09:48Valoche+Zig, Texas Hunter and you
16:10:22Chestalhmm, I could enforce peopel not to right-click before 15:00 by aiming server generated shots at them if they do ;-)
16:10:51Valocheare you a left-hander Chestal ? ;)
16:11:05ChestalValoche: nono, right-clicking to become alive
16:11:16Valochehehe
16:11:19ChestalI still liek theidea best that no one is driving around too early
16:11:24Chestalmost important with flags
16:11:28ValocheJust block the msgAlive
16:11:41Valochedon't know the effect of blocking it on client, though
16:11:59Chestalyes, I think the client will get messed up or something
16:12:08Chestalbut I liek the idea of deadly server shots :-)
16:12:22ValocheI just looked at the client, it would be seamless :)
16:13:08Chestalhmm, seamless? what would happen exactly? The palyer can drive aroudn immedaitely after sending MsgAlive, can't he? Or does he have to wait for server esponse?
16:14:20Valocheit just sends an msgAlive. An when he receives a msgAlive, it sets the flag Alive to true by using the playerID encoded in the msg. The window is grayed until myTank->isAlive();
16:14:50Valochelook at this:       if (myTank->isAlive() && !myTank->isPaused()) {
16:14:50ValochedoMotion();
16:14:50Valocheif (fireButton && myTank->getFlag() == MachineGunFlag)
16:14:50Valoche  myTank->fireShot();
16:14:50Valoche      }
16:15:02Chestalwell, I can just try
16:15:07Valocheyep
16:15:38Chestalhmm
16:15:49Chestalfor Observeres the server ignores MsgAlive msgs
16:15:50Valocheyes, the MachineGunFlag is a total hack ;o)))
16:16:00Valochesure ?
16:16:20Chestalwell, at least MsgAlive isn't Broadcast
16:16:52Chestalso Obserevr should never receive MsgAlive for himself
16:17:06Valochefrom bzfs.cxx:   broadcastMessage(MsgAlive, sizeof(msg), msg);
16:17:24Valochein: static void playerAlive(int playerIndex, const float *pos, const float *fwd)
16:17:49Chestalyes
16:17:56Chestalbut by Observer patch changed this function
16:18:17Valocheoh my... can you show me that one ?
16:18:26Chestal  if (isObserver(playerIndex)) return;
16:18:34Chestalright before //send MsgAlive
16:19:32Valochehmm...
16:19:45Valochejust a sec
16:21:30Valochethere's only one place in the client where player->setStatus(Player::Alive) is called: when we receive an msgAlive; and we can't move if our tank is not alive. Observers can move, so observers receive the msgAlive...
16:21:53Valochethat's weird...
16:23:47ChestalLocalPlayer::restart() does it
16:24:37Chestalcalles by restartPlaying()
16:24:44Valochegood point, let me see that
16:25:07Valocheokay, that sucks
16:25:15Chestalyep, so we cannot do anything about that
16:25:23ValocheI guess this is THE place where the unknown bug occurs...
16:25:24Chestalhmm, I have an idea :-)
16:25:32Chestalbut it's not a good one
16:25:47Chestalhuh, how is that related to unknown-bug?
16:26:03Valochejust a sec
16:26:37Valochebecause of this:   myTank->restart(startPoint, startAzimuth);
16:26:38Valoche  serverLink->sendAlive(myTank->getPosition(), myTank->getForward());
16:26:55Valochewe don't wait for server's response
16:27:05Valocheer... does broadcast sends back to the originator ?
16:27:33Valocheso if the server doesn't get our msgAlive, noone won't receive it
16:27:33ChestalI guess so
16:27:39ValocheBUT...
16:27:52Valochethis is when a tank is unknown to EVERYONE
16:27:54Chestalwhy shoudl the msgAlive get lost?
16:27:58ValocheUDP
16:28:06Chestalis msgALive sent oder UDP?
16:28:25Valocheit's a regular message, so it's sent via the same channel than other ones
16:28:40Valochejust a sec, I'll try something weird on my client
16:29:06ChestalAFAIK only MsgPlayerUpdate, BeginSHot, EndSHot and GMUPdate are sent over UDP
16:29:17Chestalthe others shoudl use the TCP connection
16:30:03Valocheyes, I'm afraid you are right...
16:30:49Valocheerr... no, you're wrong
16:30:58Chestal? :-)
16:31:22Valocheno, you are right finally... phew
16:31:29ValocheI am very tired tonight ;)
16:31:40Chestalso am I
16:31:48ChestalI haven't eaten anything today
16:31:59ChestalI was at the dentist :-(
16:32:20Valoche:( does it hurt ? >)
16:32:35Chestalanyway, lokks like we can't stop people from playing before 15:00 technically
16:32:52Valocheyep. And by the by:     switch (code) {
16:32:52Valochecase MsgShotBegin:
16:32:52Valochecase MsgShotEnd:
16:32:53Valochecase MsgPlayerUpdate:
16:32:53Valochecase MsgGMUpdate:
16:32:53Valoche  puwrite(playerIndex,b,l);
16:32:54Valoche  return;
16:32:55Chestalyes, a little. One tooth is gone
16:32:56Valoche    }
16:33:32Valochewhy, but why did they do that ? I'll never know because I suck too much ;)
16:34:00Valochewill you get some money for your tooth ? In france we call it the "Little Mouse"
16:34:22Chestalhmm, why should anybody pay for it? :-)
16:35:07Valochedon't you have that in Germany ? when a kind looses a tooth, he puts it under his pillow, and the next morning the tooth's gone, and there is a little coin here (say 1 Mark)
16:35:37Chestalhmm I'm not sure. I have no children and I barely remember the time when I was one
16:36:09Valocheuh? are you *that* old ?
16:36:25lupinatori know a southpark episode where the kids steal teeth and put them under their pillows
16:36:27Chestalheh, I barely remember yesterday :-)
16:37:00Valocheyeah, elders often have difficulties to remember about stuff ;)
16:37:07Chestalso, I guess we still haven't agreed how to handle the startof a battle
16:37:11lupinatoryesterday? was there something special? oh i can't remember
16:37:22Valocheit was my birthday, but I didn't mention it
16:37:49lupinatorhm i really don't remember your birthday
16:38:20ValocheI know, I never told ya before
16:38:47lupinatorbonne chance, valoche
16:38:52Chestaldid you have a fine day? presents, cake and all that?
16:39:09lupinatoror however one says
16:39:47lupinatora new tank?
16:40:03Valochemy girlfriend took me to the restaurant, I got loads of phone calls and mails, and some nice presents including wine, and mechanic tools so I can build my own tank and kick your asses ;)
16:40:33ValocheBTW, I ate half a dozen of SNAILS yesterday ;))))) Do you wanna puke ? ;)
16:40:43Chestalhmm, restaurant, that reminds me
16:41:00Chestaluah, never tried those but i do not really intend to
16:41:22Valocheit's good, you can eat those if you don't look directly at'em ;)
16:41:31lupinatoroh, chestal: are you still a member of the church?
16:41:43Chestallupinator: yes
16:42:44Chestalback to business, gentlemen: how do we handle start of a battle?
16:43:14Valocheblock UDP messages ;)
16:43:24lupinatori'll sit there and kill everyone who starts too early :)
16:43:35Valochelupi: you presume your skills ;))))
16:44:35Valochelupi: if you blow yourself up, is it because you fired a shot before the begining and shot yourself up, or is it because you shot yourself up because you had too ? Hmmmm... I found perpetual movement ;)
16:45:31Chestalwe could just enforce fair behaviour manually, e.g. just kick players that do not behave
16:45:35ValocheChestal: I think just blocking the shots until 15:00 is reached will be just fine
16:45:38lupinatori'm for the server shots
16:46:07Valochekicking could make people angry
16:46:18Chestalangry people play worse :-)
16:46:25Valocheangry people don't play :(
16:46:48Valocheserver shot can be funny, so I think you can do that...
16:47:11Chestalif we do that, we must tell people not to play too early
16:47:48lupinatoryou can put it in the login message
16:48:15ValocheBRB
16:48:25lupinatorseveral GMs would be nice
16:50:30ChestalI am not sure how GM is handled
16:50:43ChestalI think the client who shot GM handles it
16:52:01ValocheI am back
16:52:24Valochewhy not use mini-shockwave ?
16:52:35Chestalhmm
16:52:50Chestalthat should work, only problem with really badly lagged players
16:53:30Valocheyou could send them continuously until the tank explodes; that'd be funny
16:55:35ChestalI wonder if it is easy do do, let's checkthe source
16:56:23Valocheyou have to add a feature that ressembles the isToBeKicked thing
16:56:39Chestalhmm, shot must be associated with a player
16:57:01Valochehimself ?
16:57:45Chestalgood question whether this would work
16:57:52Valochewow, the server code could be optimized a little...
16:58:02Valoche    for (i = 0; i < maxPlayers; i++) {
16:58:02Valoche      if (requireUDP && player[i].toBeKicked) {
16:58:05Valocheyucks!
17:00:02Chestalwhat's so bad about that?
17:00:09Chestalah
17:00:10Chestalok
17:01:04Valochewe're talking about nanosecs here, but still ;)
17:02:11Chestala good compiler might optimize it
17:02:24Valochegood point
17:05:13Chestalhmm, server shots are not that easy
17:06:54ChestalI think it's too much hassle
17:07:21Chestalbut I will try anyway I guess
17:08:30ValocheJust saw a thing (may be wrong): direct messages are broadcasted...
17:09:17Chestalplayer messages?
17:09:28ChestalI looked at those for my advertisement broadcasts
17:09:49Chestalas far as I understood it, all messages are broadcast and receiver looks if he should have received those
17:09:56Chestal(e.g. team check for team messages)
17:10:05ChestalI wonder why this is done this way
17:10:21Valochewhen sendMessage(...) is called, it's broadcasted even if targetPlayer is set
17:10:39Chestalthis coul dbe optimized
17:10:49Chestalwhat I woudl also liek to optimize is GragFlag messages
17:10:57Valocheohhhh yes
17:11:01Chestaleach time a palyer tries to pick up a flag, a bunch of those is sent
17:11:56Valocheyeah there should be some way to fix that
17:12:51Chestaleasiest approach would be to limit those messages to at max 1 per 0.5 seconds or so
17:13:08lupinatorsomthing is seriously broken here
17:13:15Chestallupinator: hmm?
17:13:23lupinatornobody can see me
17:13:29lupinatorand i can't kill anyone
17:13:42Valochewhere?
17:13:48lupinatorducati
17:13:58lupinatorhowever i can get killed
17:14:20lupinatorand i'm not unknown
17:14:27Chestalno idea why?
17:14:30Valocheit works for me
17:15:54Valochehmmm... mabye a network problem here
17:16:47Valocheokay, I gotta run, I have friends to see :) I talk to you later, and I'll try to fix the MsgGrabFlag thing. I took a quick look at it, it seems very easy to fix.
17:16:49lupinatorgrr x server died again
18:35:30Hukyo
19:59:21captain_protonhi tim
20:04:09vogon_jeltzis back (gone 09:34:58)
20:04:28captain_protonwb
20:04:35vogon_jeltzthx :)
20:04:59captain_protonyikes
20:06:07captain_protonwhats up?
20:06:14vogon_jeltznot much
20:06:34vogon_jeltzI got the network init stuff written for ParanoiaMUD
20:06:43captain_protoncool
20:06:51vogon_jeltzwishes he had someone to write a mockup client while he was writing the server :)
20:07:08captain_protonis that a not-so-subtle hint?
20:07:12vogon_jeltzmaybe :)
20:07:29captain_protonargh i'm inundated with cookies
20:07:37vogon_jeltzahh, OK
20:08:23captain_protongot a tub of cherry-chip cookies from king soopers, some pecan sandies, and my birthday cookies from my grandma
20:08:34captain_protonplus a dozen muffins and some chips
20:08:39captain_protonscreams
20:08:45vogon_jeltzhehehehehe
20:09:22captain_protonwhat I really need is some juice :P
20:10:55captain_protoncare to play some on tt?
20:11:17vogon_jeltzmaybe
20:11:21vogon_jeltzI gotta wake up a bit
20:11:48vogon_jeltzhas been playing altogether too much Tribes2 the past week
20:12:57captain_protonwhat does that have to do with tt?
20:13:17vogon_jeltzit's made me tired and jumpy
20:13:35captain_protonahh
20:13:55captain_protonwell i'm going to play - see ya there maybe
20:13:58vogon_jeltzespecially since people can sneak up on you in that game with no warning and shocklance you in the back :)
20:16:55vogon_jeltzis away: playing some bzflag
20:48:46vogon_jeltzis back (gone 00:31:50)
20:52:33Valochehi
20:52:38vogon_jeltzhi
20:54:30Valochepong
20:54:46vogon_jeltzwhat was that for?
20:55:09ValocheI had "PING? PONG!" on another window
20:55:21vogon_jeltzheh
20:55:40vogon_jeltzblargh... networking code sucks
20:56:11ValocheI know; did you talk to Chestal ?
20:56:18vogon_jeltzno
20:56:23vogon_jeltzI'm doing my own project now
20:56:28ValocheHa...
20:57:07ValocheI myself have problems with rendering shadows in OpenGL
20:57:14vogon_jeltzheh
21:50:14captain_protonhmmm i need a dock
21:55:05vogon_jeltzheh
21:55:56vogon_jeltzwould like to point out that shadows look really ugly in BZFlag with Mesa 3.5
22:01:48vogon_jeltzthe Mariners just killed the Indians :)
22:09:51Valochehey I was away ;) shadows in BZFlag are ugly because they are stippled polygons (yuck!)
22:10:22ValocheI changed that in my client to have blended shadows -> they look nicer
22:23:09vogon_jeltzno, they look like big black blobs on my box
22:23:58BZFlagValoche: patch on SF ? ;-)
22:27:27Valochenot yet
22:28:43vogon_jeltzmight make a BZFlag Total Conversion for Tribes2 :)
22:29:55Valochefind that silly but cool ;)
22:30:09vogon_jeltzhmm... details are taking shape in my head
22:30:25vogon_jeltzyou kill a tank (this'd require more than one hit), you get a flag
22:31:23vogon_jeltzhmm... it'd be more fun if you could carry more than one flag :)
22:32:05Valochelike a bouquet ? :)
22:32:10vogon_jeltzyeah ;)
22:32:29vogon_jeltzI would, though, like to add a friendly fire option to BZFlag itself
22:32:42Valochewhat's that?
22:32:50vogon_jeltzso you could turn off friendly fire
22:33:09vogon_jeltz(this wouldn't affect suicide, tho)
22:33:09Valocheno more "shot by teammate..." ???
22:33:12vogon_jeltzyeah
22:33:28Valochewhy? I love to hear your donkey sound :)
22:33:28vogon_jeltzit'd default to on, so that you'd have to make a concerted effort to turn it off :)
22:33:37vogon_jeltzthat's not my patch
22:33:48Valocheoopsa
22:34:01vogon_jeltzis vogon_jeltz on SF, not dbrosius
22:34:28Valocheyeah I know, but I really thought that was your patch; I'm so tired :)
22:34:33vogon_jeltzheh
22:34:43vogon_jeltzhi, velo
22:34:58Valochehi
22:35:07velohey, how's it going
22:35:10vogon_jeltzOK
22:35:18Valochedito
22:35:31veloYou guys doing the tournament this weekend?
22:35:38Valocheoh yeah
22:35:45Valochedid you register ?
22:35:55velonot yet, I just found out about it.
22:36:12veloI haven't been playing much, so I'm prolly pretty rusty.
22:36:15vogon_jeltzwould also like to add demo-recording functionality to BZFlag if he can ever get around to it
22:36:53Valochewell, that will be a good training, then. And it'll be fun. Go register now :)
22:36:58velojust wanted to make sure I could connect to this channel ok in case I do the tournament
22:37:27veloI'm surprised more people haven't registered.
22:38:07Valochethere are not lots of BZFlag players in the world... It's hard to recruit fresh ones ;)
22:38:53Valocheis thinkg exactly the same thing: recording could be great, specially for tournaments
22:38:58velothere seem to be alot more people playing now than a year ago
22:39:13Valochevogon: Or "the way I shot OMA" contest ;)
22:39:18vogon_jeltzhahahah
22:40:03Valochevelo: I think this is the 1st tournament, maybe our advertisement can be improved for the next ones
22:40:19ValocheBRB, I have to send you the confirmation mail :)
22:40:26veloI'm gonna send out an email to some former co-workers who are bz-ers.
22:40:41velowhat, you don't have that automated?  ;-)
22:41:11Valochenope ;) that bloody hoster disabled the mail() in PHP
22:41:16vogon_jeltzheh
22:41:27Valocheibot, x fr en hébergeur
22:41:28Valoche: H
22:41:33Valocheibot, x fr en hebergeur
22:41:34Valoche: hebergeur
22:41:48Valoche(the server hosting my pages); stupid Ibot
22:42:22ValocheI see you wanna play with flags; congratulations :)
22:43:03veloI thought I put "don't care"
22:43:16Valochejust a sec, I'll check that
22:43:31veloi might have selected wrong, no big
22:43:44Valocheyeah you're right; I'm so tired ;)
22:44:22Valocheoh I didn't see... it'd be cool if you could recruit more players for the tourney; thanks! :)))
22:44:34velonp
22:44:51velo???
22:44:57Valochewhat?
22:45:14velowhat's that request for "CTCP TIME" thing?
22:45:20veloI'm new to IRC
22:45:28vogon_jeltzhe's asking what time it is here
22:45:45Valocheoh... I was trying to get your local time to have an idea wherejhfskjdhf - vogon already answered
22:45:55Valochewhat time is it in your place ?
22:46:02velo5:48 pm
22:46:16vogon_jeltz4:47 PM
22:46:27Valochewow... 1:45am here
22:46:50veloheck, I'm still at work
22:47:06velo(that's where I play most of my bzflag)  ;-)
22:47:09Valocheheck, I have to work in 7h15
22:48:01Valoche: excuse me?
22:48:01ValocheIbot, read me a book to help me fall asleep
22:48:27velo: i haven't a clue
22:48:27veloIbot, do you have a sense of humor?
22:48:42velofunny
22:48:46ValocheI love Ibot, he's so cool
22:49:08Valochevelo: yep, we went mad playing with Ibot 2 days ago ;)
22:49:23Valochebut then vogon killed it :(
22:49:47Valochelook at that:
22:50:05ValocheIbot, x fr en Je suis Ibot, je suis assez idiot
22:50:06Valoche: I am Ibot, I am rather idiotic
22:50:12Valochehehe ;)
22:50:33Valocheit's very practical to translate stuff
22:50:48velothat's pretty cool
22:51:11veloIbot, x sp en se hapla espanol?
22:51:12velo: hapla espanol?
22:51:21velooops typo
22:51:32vogon_jeltzibot, x sp en se habla espanol
22:51:33vogon_jeltz: espanol is spoken
22:51:38velonice
22:51:42vogon_jeltzneed the tilde
22:51:43Valocheibot, x sp en se hable español
22:51:44Valoche: espa is spoken
22:51:48vogon_jeltzyea
22:52:03Valocheibot, x en sp spanish
22:52:04Valoche: &nbsp;
22:52:14Valochehehe, ibot sucks BIG TIME ;)
22:52:23velook, it's not perfect
22:52:51Valocheit helps me find some words
22:53:06No luck, Valoche
22:53:06ValocheIbot, insult Valoche
22:53:16Valocheoh no, someone removed that :(((
22:53:28velowhat did it used to say?
22:53:36Velo is nothing but an headless plate of currish bug spit.
22:53:36ValocheIbot, insult Velo
22:53:37Valoche(sorry)
22:53:42velolol
22:53:59Valocheokay, I found it:
22:54:03You are nothing but an hacked-up gob of clapper-clawed armadillo snouts.
22:54:03Valocheibot, insult Valoche
22:54:10Valochesee? that's smart
22:54:53Valochebut if you don't want vogon to get mad, just open a private chat with Ibot, then type ibot help and have fun ;)
22:54:55velo: no idea
22:54:55veloIbot, may I worship your greatness?
22:55:18velohow do you open a private chat?
22:55:36Valochedouble-click on ibot in the list
22:55:47velo(those vogons have no sense of humor)
22:55:56Valoche42
22:56:02veloyep
22:56:11Valochecool, we read the same stupid books ;)
22:56:33veloeveryone in my office is re-reading lotr right now
22:56:54vogon_jeltzheh
22:57:00vogon_jeltzI was working on something over in #loki
22:57:05Valocheoopsa, busted!
22:57:40Valochebtw, what's the hero's name in the US version ?
22:57:51vogon_jeltzArthur Dent
22:58:01Valocheibot, x en fr dent
22:58:02Valoche: bosselure
22:58:09Valocheibot, x fr en accroc
22:58:10Valoche: tear
22:58:25Valochepfff... in the french version, it's Arthur Accroc
22:58:33vogon_jeltzheh... Arthur Tear :)
22:58:40Valochereally?
22:58:44vogon_jeltzno
22:58:49Valoche;) gotcha
22:58:50vogon_jeltzit's Arthur Dent in the US/UK versions
22:59:04vogon_jeltzwhat's Zaphod Beeblebrox named? :)
22:59:16Valocheer... is this the guy with 2 heads ?
22:59:19vogon_jeltzyeah
22:59:26Valocheit's Zappy Bibicy
22:59:32vogon_jeltzhahahah
22:59:36Valoche(the translation sucks)
22:59:56ValocheBibicy in french reads like B.B.C.
23:00:02vogon_jeltzyeah
23:00:12vogon_jeltzI know... I'm a third-year French student :)
23:00:13veloHave you guys read the Dirk Gently books?
23:00:16vogon_jeltzI have
23:00:28veloI'm bummed there won't be more of those.
23:00:30Valocheer... I have to google a bit, BRB in a sec
23:00:45vogon_jeltzI stopped about halfway through Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency because I didn't like it, tho
23:00:54vogon_jeltznot goofy enough :)
23:01:07velono?  I thought they were both pretty funny
23:01:29Valochemy favourite author is Pratchett, it's hilarious, even translated in french :)
23:01:31vogon_jeltzyeah, but not Hitchhiker's Guide funny
23:02:03veloallright, gotta get back to work, will probably see you guys on Saturday for the tournie
23:02:12vogon_jeltzk... bye
23:02:17Valochewell, dunno, cause the HG translation don't seem good, it's way to childish, with stupid joke on words a 5 year old chlid you make
23:02:25Valocheokay, bye bye, see you saturday
23:02:32veloc-ya
23:02:50Valocheahem... "child could make"
23:03:10Valocheand "doesn't"; I'm so tired
23:03:20Valocheis tired and will go to bed right now
23:03:20vogon_jeltzheh... I don't care :)
23:03:22vogon_jeltznn
23:04:22Valochebtw, won't you register ?
23:04:32vogon_jeltzheh... I suck at BZFlag
23:04:43Valochegreat! we need extra targets ;)
23:05:01Valochecome play, please please please pretty please with sugar on top
23:05:14vogon_jeltzhehe
23:05:17vogon_jeltzmaybe
23:05:19Valoche(I found that one in Monkey Island ;)
23:05:34Valocheok then, no I'm really going to bed, cya
23:05:37vogon_jeltznn
23:05:41Valochenn?
23:05:43Valochenight-night?
23:05:48vogon_jeltzyeah
23:05:51Valochek bye

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