| 03:12:02 | vogon_jeltz | is away: playing Tribes2 |
| 03:47:33 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:35:31) |
| 03:54:26 | vogon_jeltz | is away: playing T2 some more |
| 05:53:29 | captain_proton | yay! |
| 06:02:15 | captain_proton | anybody here? |
| 06:15:05 | vogon_jeltz | I'm here |
| 10:32:53 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sleep... |
| 14:03:15 | Chestal | tag |
| 14:36:15 | lupinator | hi chestal |
| 15:34:13 | lupinator | scheiss X |
| 15:40:43 | Chestal | re |
| 16:12:28 | firegod | does bzflag use esd? or only /dev/dsp ? |
| 16:15:20 | I_KalamBa | i wish i could help u but i have win-dos):- |
| 16:17:21 | lupinator | firegod: only /dev/dsp afaik |
| 16:21:56 | firegod | damn |
| 16:22:02 | firegod | music rules over sound effects |
| 16:22:48 | lupinator | i don't know about esd |
| 16:23:07 | lupinator | would it be enough ti just change the device? |
| 16:23:17 | firegod | no idea |
| 16:23:51 | firegod | esd is a client/server design |
| 16:24:28 | firegod | mostly, i want to be able to move the mouse beyond a windowed bzflag game, without quiting |
| 16:24:32 | firegod | THAT is anoying |
| 16:37:16 | Chestal | everytime I play in a team my teammates shoot me as often as my enemies *sigh* |
| 16:38:45 | firegod | there should be a 5sec safety when you first respawn |
| 16:38:51 | firegod | i die before I can even turn |
| 16:39:06 | Chestal | bz tries to put you into a safe place,acutally |
| 16:39:17 | firegod | well it doesnt work |
| 16:39:25 | Chestal | doesn't always succeed, though. Current CVS has a more conservative function for that |
| 16:39:43 | Chestal | I'm using the newest patch, I am quite safe when popping up |
| 16:39:45 | firegod | unable to fire, and unable to die, for 5 sec would be fine |
| 16:40:15 | Chestal | of course other peopel can still respawn next to me, but once everyone got the newest version that shoudl be fine |
| 16:40:27 | Chestal | when the battlefield is too crowded, however, not much can be done |
| 16:40:46 | firegod | and the fricking laser bounce.. crikey |
| 16:40:53 | Chestal | foregod: what you propose has other problems, would give unfair advantage to respawned tank IMHO |
| 16:40:59 | firegod | on a crowded game.. woof |
| 16:41:17 | firegod | hmm |
| 16:41:31 | Chestal | ricocheting laers are cool :-) but after a few shot nearly always laser will kill itself |
| 16:41:45 | firegod | unless you get skilled with it |
| 16:43:01 | lupinator | most often it's not a matter of skills |
| 16:43:04 | Chestal | but you cannot calculate laser ricochet |
| 16:43:38 | lupinator | the tanks you hit are too lagged to stop the laser before it's reflected a dozen of times |
| 16:43:41 | Chestal | might be a good cheatign patch, laser doesn't shoot when I would kill myself ;-) |
| 16:43:59 | firegod | yup |
| 16:44:17 | Chestal | lupi: hmm, do tanks stop laser at all? |
| 16:44:50 | firegod | that's some laser.. one shot kill |
| 16:45:02 | lupinator | i think so |
| 16:45:13 | firegod | and goes thru tanks, but nothing else. |
| 16:48:11 | captain_proton | hey guys |
| 16:48:20 | Chestal | hi captain |
| 16:48:29 | lupinator | hi mr. proton |
| 16:48:32 | captain_proton | reads through the history |
| 16:48:55 | captain_proton | firegod: bzflag doesn't use esd - just the device |
| 16:49:02 | captain_proton | you can trick it into using esd though |
| 16:52:36 | lupinator | did anyone teach ibot something useful like information about udp, tcp, ctf... ? |
| 16:53:28 | | Since Mon Oct 8 23:11:46 2001, there have been 46 modifications and 39 questions. I have been awake for 18 hours, 41 minutes, 42 seconds this session, and currently reference 2820 factoids. Addressing is in required mode. |
| 16:53:28 | captain_proton | ibot, status |
| 16:53:41 | | captain_proton: i don't know |
| 16:53:41 | captain_proton | ibot, what is CTF? |
| 16:53:47 | | wish i knew, captain_proton |
| 16:53:47 | captain_proton | ibot, what is TCP? |
| 16:53:54 | captain_proton | looks like not lupi |
| 16:54:55 | Chestal | BZFlag: do I have to do anything to get operator status from chanserv or however it is suppoed to work? |
| 17:17:10 | BZFlag | Chestal: you have to be confirmed by nickserv as being you you claim to be. |
| 17:17:39 | BZFlag | try your access list with nick server or just do "/msg nickserv identify <password>" |
| 17:19:06 | Chestal | hmm, I'll check it |
| 17:19:48 | Chestal | hmm |
| 17:20:21 | Chestal | I used identify and checked my access lists. it's thilo@*.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de which matches the /whois information |
| 17:20:42 | BZFlag | hmm... leave and join here then. |
| 17:20:54 | Chestal | ok, that worked |
| 17:21:11 | BZFlag | cool. |
| 17:21:25 | BZFlag | did you change the access list on nickserv? |
| 17:21:35 | Chestal | yep. But I don't quite understand the access list feature. What is it for if I still have to manually identity myself |
| 17:21:53 | Chestal | BZFlag: no, it was automatically set when I registered with nickserv, didnt change anything |
| 17:21:57 | Chestal | hi shadow |
| 17:22:01 | BZFlag | hmmm.... I think there is an option you have to enable to get the access list working. |
| 17:22:10 | Shadow | hi chestal |
| 17:22:10 | BZFlag | it's been too long since I set mine up. |
| 17:22:15 | Chestal | I'll figure it out |
| 17:22:25 | BZFlag | I enabled kicking on my nicks too. |
| 17:22:41 | Shadow | this is cool it is the first time i do this |
| 17:23:09 | Chestal | shadow: are you using irc client or the www access? |
| 17:23:18 | Shadow | does anybody now how to compile in irix unix |
| 17:23:29 | Shadow | i dont now |
| 17:23:46 | Shadow | ni think www.access |
| 17:24:01 | BZFlag | Shadow: is using: VERSION CGI:IRC 0.4.2 (http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/) |
| 17:24:03 | Chestal | shadow: via Valoche's site? |
| 17:24:14 | Chestal | Shadow: what's the problem with compiling on Irix? |
| 17:24:16 | Shadow | is that ok |
| 17:24:20 | BZFlag | sure |
| 17:24:36 | Shadow | i don't now how to use it |
| 17:24:53 | Shadow | what are the steps |
| 17:25:08 | Chestal | well, get the source and type 'make' |
| 17:25:17 | Shadow | ok |
| 17:25:25 | Shadow | that is it |
| 17:25:55 | Chestal | well, when you get a tar archive (.tar.gz) you'll have to untar it first, change to the bzflagf directory and then you'll do 'make' |
| 17:26:11 | Shadow | ok |
| 17:26:20 | Shadow | that i understand |
| 17:26:23 | captain_proton | everything beyond that should be self-explainatory |
| 17:26:35 | Chestal | there have been soem problems with Irix lately I think I remember. not sure, though |
| 17:27:01 | Shadow | well i will try again |
| 17:27:32 | Chestal | shadow: I read you can't play on Saturday? I saw you registered, though |
| 17:27:32 | Shadow | thanks |
| 17:27:38 | BZFlag | make irix-mips3 ; make should do it. |
| 17:27:41 | Shadow | yes |
| 17:28:01 | Shadow | i am going on vacation leaving on the 10th |
| 17:28:13 | Chestal | that's tomorrow :-) |
| 17:28:34 | Chestal | Shadow: hope you'll have a nice vacation |
| 17:28:36 | Shadow | ya baby |
| 17:28:50 | Shadow | n going moose hunting |
| 17:29:07 | Shadow | keep typing "N " all the time |
| 17:29:37 | Chestal | well,I'll go rodent hunting |
| 17:30:01 | Shadow | :) gerbil |
| 17:30:07 | BZFlag | n it's that bz habit ;-) |
| 17:30:12 | Valoche | hi everyone |
| 17:30:16 | BZFlag | m but don't tell shadow |
| 17:30:18 | Chestal | hi Valoche! |
| 17:30:27 | Chestal | m I never would |
| 17:30:32 | Shadow | hi valoche |
| 17:30:34 | BZFlag | m cool then. |
| 17:30:45 | Valoche | hey Shadow, so could someone help you here? |
| 17:30:50 | Shadow | who is @bzflag |
| 17:30:57 | BZFlag | is TimRiker |
| 17:31:16 | | BZFlag is TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps |
| 17:31:16 | captain_proton | ibot, BZFlag? |
| 17:31:36 | Shadow | yes i got some answers |
| 17:31:46 | Shadow | ok |
| 17:31:55 | Valoche | lupi, 2+2 |
| 17:32:43 | lupi | Valoche: i wish i knew |
| 17:32:59 | Valoche | hehe |
| 17:33:04 | TimRiker | eep, nickserv does not like my personal password anymore. |
| 17:33:29 | Valoche | Chestal: we now have 13 players, 6 confirmed |
| 17:38:17 | Valoche | got to eat, BRB |
| 17:39:23 | lupinator | hm something to eat... |
| 17:41:40 | Shadow | chestal? |
| 17:42:11 | Shadow | hello anybody |
| 17:42:31 | lupi | i'm here |
| 17:42:58 | Shadow | h ey lupi do you now anthing about unix compiling |
| 17:43:06 | lupinator | a bit |
| 17:43:24 | Shadow | i got this error when i ran make |
| 17:43:45 | Shadow | any idea |
| 17:43:56 | lupinator | can you paste the error? |
| 17:44:14 | Shadow | i just did |
| 17:44:15 | Shadow | i just did |
| 17:44:24 | lupinator | did not show up here |
| 17:44:25 | TimRiker | did not show. |
| 17:44:36 | Shadow | ok ill try again |
| 17:44:44 | Shadow | "/usr/bin/CC: not found" |
| 17:44:50 | Shadow | ok |
| 17:45:25 | Shadow | did it show this time' |
| 17:45:41 | TimRiker | Shadow: showed. you might not have a c++ compiler installed. |
| 17:45:48 | TimRiker | you need one. |
| 17:45:59 | TimRiker | try "gcc -V" |
| 17:46:18 | TimRiker | er "gcc -v" sorry. |
| 17:46:38 | Shadow | is it part of the make command |
| 17:46:47 | TimRiker | no. try it by itself |
| 17:47:17 | Shadow | in the bzflag source directory |
| 17:47:33 | TimRiker | does not matter where. |
| 17:47:35 | lupinator | anywhere |
| 17:48:23 | Shadow | no it did not work |
| 17:48:45 | TimRiker | ok. no CC and no gcc. you're hurtin' |
| 17:49:01 | TimRiker | can't compile without a compiler. |
| 17:49:14 | Shadow | well ill try to get a cc compiler |
| 17:49:37 | Shadow | thanks for the help |
| 17:49:42 | TimRiker | ok. look around for prebuild irix versions of gcc. They should be free if you can find em. |
| 17:49:50 | TimRiker | er prebuilt. |
| 17:50:18 | Shadow | ok |
| 17:57:56 | Chestal | Valoche: what work must be done till Saturday? We'll want to show which player goes into which group before the tournament starts |
| 17:58:21 | Chestal | during the tournament results should be published there and new groups for the next round |
| 17:58:43 | Chestal | I guess we also need to assign a team/colour to each player in a group |
| 17:58:58 | Valoche | Yep! I have to setup the admin page which will allow you to do everything |
| 17:59:34 | Valoche | 5 per group -> cool, we have 5 colors available |
| 18:32:01 | Chestal | Valoche: alternatively, you could just link to my web server andI would setup the group / results page here locally |
| 18:32:19 | Chestal | Valoche: I create the groups automatically, so I could easily add HTML outptu anyway |
| 18:33:20 | Valoche | Chestal: everything is a good idea |
| 18:33:58 | Valoche | So I guess you want a friendly text file with the callsigns generated automagically when you press a button ? |
| 18:35:57 | TimRiker | though the rogue group is not really equal to the others. |
| 18:36:21 | Valoche | yep, depends on if we allow flags or not |
| 18:36:28 | Chestal | is confused by both Valoche's and TimRiker's comments |
| 18:36:47 | Valoche | Chestal: I'll give you a way to easily download the players' list |
| 18:37:04 | Chestal | Valoche: the registered players? |
| 18:37:11 | Valoche | Chestal: yes |
| 18:37:41 | Chestal | ah, yes, that woul dbe fine. I can extract them from the current wab page though, will only take me a minute or so :-) |
| 18:38:01 | captain_proton | TimRiker: you should see the electric tiki torch my friends and I put together |
| 18:38:25 | Valoche | well, you'd want to extract only the confirmed ones. |
| 18:38:32 | Chestal | Valoche: well, do you think I should just create an inforamtion page? you could link it into your frameset then |
| 18:38:57 | Chestal | valoche: ok, it's easier for me when you create a clean list for me on Saturday |
| 18:38:59 | Valoche | Chestal: fine by me |
| 18:39:19 | Valoche | Chestal: ok for the list; do you want a special formatting ? e-mails ??? |
| 18:40:19 | Valoche | Chestal: what kind of carriage return ? ;) |
| 18:40:42 | Chestal | Valoche: it doesn't matter, what I feed to my program is one callsign per line (in fact it's 'callsign 1') |
| 18:41:00 | Valoche | okay; I'll do that, BRB |
| 18:41:03 | Chestal | the 1 is not meaningful for the first round, it will contain rank fromprevius round for round 2 etc. |
| 18:41:36 | Valoche | okay |
| 18:56:31 | FantaZee | hi |
| 18:56:36 | | hola, Valoche |
| 18:56:36 | Valoche | hi |
| 18:56:49 | FantaZee | chestal: der server ist abgekackt |
| 18:57:09 | Valoche | ibot, x de en der server ist abgekackt |
| 18:57:10 | | Valoche: the server is abgekackt |
| 18:57:16 | Valoche | hmm |
| 18:57:35 | FantaZee | nserver is down |
| 18:57:45 | FantaZee | grr the "n" |
| 18:57:51 | FantaZee | bzflag "n" |
| 18:58:00 | Valoche | Chestal: http://bzflag.free.fr/admin.php3 ; is the file okay ? |
| 18:59:27 | Chestal | oh, just a moment |
| 18:59:30 | lupinator | grmpfl X already crshed 2 times today |
| 18:59:43 | Chestal | server up again |
| 18:59:50 | Chestal | valoche: let me checkit out |
| 19:00:30 | Valoche | ok |
| 19:00:37 | Chestal | looks fine :-) |
| 19:00:53 | Valoche | okay; with notepad, it doesnt 8-) |
| 19:01:17 | Valoche | bookmark the URL, I won't make it available from the frameset |
| 19:01:58 | Valoche | and now, I'm off to play; cya later |
| 19:02:09 | Chestal | bookmarked |
| 19:02:10 | Chestal | cu |
| 19:46:09 | Chestal | is hacking HTML generation |
| 19:56:58 | Valoche | oh my... the worst cheater EVER on 128.something |
| 19:57:07 | Valoche | stealth-cloaked-laser-0 reload time |
| 19:59:00 | captain_proton | must see |
| 19:59:49 | Valoche | too late, captain... he's gone ;) |
| 20:00:35 | Valoche | I kicked everyone out of the server, thinking that this looser wouldn't reconnect... I was right (stupid psychology sometimes work) |
| 20:05:33 | captain_proton | is that your server? |
| 20:05:48 | Valoche | no... |
| 20:06:02 | captain_proton | how did you kick then? |
| 20:06:13 | Valoche | it's a server exploit, I prefer not tell how I did |
| 20:06:32 | captain_proton | takes a look at the source tree |
| 20:06:40 | Valoche | but I *will* poste a patch on SF to fix it |
| 20:07:02 | captain_proton | of course |
| 20:07:34 | captain_proton | can you kick individuals with it? |
| 20:07:34 | Valoche | however, you have to have a hacked client to use that |
| 20:07:38 | Valoche | nope |
| 20:07:44 | Valoche | it's everyone |
| 20:08:13 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 20:08:18 | captain_proton | thinks |
| 20:08:30 | Valoche | in fact, I don't really know if it's server or client/related... |
| 20:08:31 | captain_proton | oh well - i'm not really into kicking people |
| 20:08:44 | Chestal | I know of an easy way to cause a crash in each of the connected clients, Iguess it still works |
| 20:08:56 | Valoche | I don't wanna know! ;) |
| 20:09:30 | captain_proton | heh |
| 20:18:12 | Chestal | Valoche: I added height=20 to the other <td>-tags, suppose that won't chage anything? |
| 20:18:16 | Chestal | hmm, &minus, hmm |
| 20:19:05 | Valoche | no, − <- important |
| 20:20:42 | captain_proton | time to go to class - see ya fellas |
| 20:20:53 | Valoche | bye captain, have a nice day |
| 20:21:04 | Chestal | Valoche: ok,better? |
| 20:21:06 | Valoche | now it works for me, Chestal |
| 20:21:35 | Valoche | but... |
| 20:21:49 | Valoche | you don't close the <td> tags... nor the <tr> |
| 20:23:10 | Chestal | hmm, is that neccessary? I think <td> is closed automatically on <td> or <tr> and <tr> closed on <tr> or </table> |
| 20:23:31 | Chestal | that's the way I learnt it some years ago (hmtl 3.0 I guess) |
| 20:23:50 | Valoche | well, the cleaner the most supported |
| 20:24:09 | Valoche | remember my frameset not working yesterday because I forgot to close the tag ??? |
| 20:24:31 | Chestal | whatbrowser are you using? |
| 20:24:36 | Valoche | IE 6 |
| 20:24:49 | Valoche | it's too permissive, though |
| 20:25:28 | Chestal | hmm, Netscape4 doesn't know − :-( |
| 20:25:31 | Valoche | BW, you should add a clock on your page with the tournament's local time |
| 20:25:57 | Valoche | − seems to be recognized only by IE... damned! |
| 20:26:07 | Chestal | those times were ment to be UTC, but I can add a clock I guess |
| 20:26:17 | Chestal | well, Mozilal knows it |
| 20:26:30 | Chestal | Netscape renders the table totally different, doesn't look that good |
| 20:26:35 | Valoche | searches google for clues |
| 20:27:03 | lupinator | even with closing tags? |
| 20:27:05 | Chestal | hmm, come to think of it, the netscape way to render it looks really strange, it's just bogus |
| 20:27:15 | Chestal | maybe netsape really needs those closing tags, waaah |
| 20:27:21 | Valoche | yep |
| 20:27:26 | Valoche | just do it ;) |
| 20:27:26 | Chestal | these are just superfluous, logically |
| 20:27:37 | Valoche | looks at HTML 4.0 specs ;) |
| 20:27:39 | Chestal | it's just like closing </li> I never do them |
| 20:27:45 | Chestal | same thing to me |
| 20:27:48 | Chestal | oh well |
| 20:28:25 | Chestal | I find it ridiculous to write <td>foo</td><td>bar</td> |
| 20:28:58 | Valoche | http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/lists.html |
| 20:29:01 | Valoche | hehe |
| 20:29:10 | Valoche | search for "tag" |
| 20:29:30 | Valoche | er... I didn't read it all... |
| 20:29:39 | Chestal | that helped netscape |
| 20:29:51 | Chestal | I guess they are still not all closed |
| 20:30:01 | Chestal | but we have to do somethign about the minus |
| 20:30:38 | Chestal | is there no way to forbid word wrap in a table cell? |
| 20:30:46 | Valoche | well, </TD> is optional... yuks! |
| 20:30:57 | Valoche | tries stuff |
| 20:31:50 | lupinator | Chestal: why are there space chars after the names? |
| 20:32:00 | Chestal | lupinator: because there's a bug in the program |
| 20:32:10 | Valoche | remove the "width=100" everywhere you put it; that will work |
| 20:32:24 | Chestal | should be gone (the extra blanks) |
| 20:32:48 | Chestal | Valoche: I put it there so the tables have same width |
| 20:33:22 | Chestal | I removed it |
| 20:33:37 | Valoche | I guess you still have a − |
| 20:33:40 | Chestal | and used - again |
| 20:33:43 | Valoche | okay it works now |
| 20:34:26 | Chestal | hmm, but I would like to defien a minimum width for the tables |
| 20:34:53 | Valoche | then maybe just add a width for the top <TD> |
| 20:35:23 | Valoche | I suck; that won't change a thing ;) |
| 20:35:40 | Chestal | oh well, it's ok liek it is I suppose |
| 20:35:45 | Valoche | yep |
| 20:35:55 | Chestal | I would like to have all outermost columns (tables0 to have the same width |
| 20:35:57 | lupinator | insert a single pixel gif into a cell and size it to 100 |
| 20:36:03 | Chestal | don't know ehther this is possible though |
| 20:36:13 | Chestal | wuuuuah, those pixel hacks |
| 20:36:19 | Valoche | just a little thing: get http://bzflag.free.fr/back.jpg and put it as a background |
| 20:36:40 | Valoche | lupi: mwuaaahahahahaaaa |
| 20:37:00 | lupinator | single pixel rules |
| 20:37:08 | Valoche | Hey Chestal, try and put a large nickname, and please test one that has spaces in it |
| 20:37:32 | Valoche | lupi: width=xxx pees on your pixel ;) |
| 20:37:36 | Chestal | background pic included (via reference) |
| 20:37:49 | Valoche | k |
| 20:38:29 | BZFlag | oh, and s/BZflag/BZFlag/ please? |
| 20:38:47 | Chestal | ok, long name included |
| 20:39:24 | Valoche | what's up with your width, then ? FYI, the max callsign width I allowed in the form is 40 characters |
| 20:39:28 | BZFlag | Older clients (1.7e0 or 1.7fx3, not 1.7e0) might do <-- oops |
| 20:39:48 | Valoche | oopsa 8) |
| 20:40:10 | lupinator | hehe |
| 20:40:24 | Chestal | Valoche: well the table just gets bigger as expected |
| 20:40:26 | BZFlag | ditto for s/bzflag/BZFlag/ |
| 20:40:28 | Valoche | corrected |
| 20:40:39 | Valoche | reopens the file |
| 20:41:11 | Valoche | done |
| 20:41:21 | lupinator | something ate basters r |
| 20:41:22 | Chestal | I started by using yellow as rogue colour, btw., but it wasn't readable |
| 20:41:38 | Valoche | lupi: and you ate the "l" ;) |
| 20:41:43 | BZFlag | ... we have setup an easy WWW based IRC access. <- where? no link? ;-) |
| 20:41:53 | Valoche | left frame |
| 20:43:20 | Chestal | hmm, still a bug |
| 20:45:22 | Valoche | Hey Lupinato ;) |
| 20:45:43 | Valoche | Chestal: are you using shell script ? |
| 20:45:48 | BZFlag | Main rule is to play fair and genrally be nice <- oops spell checker needed. |
| 20:46:28 | Valoche | BZFlag: we have one: you ;) |
| 20:47:08 | Valoche | ibot, x fr en généralement |
| 20:47:17 | Chestal | Valoche: C++ :-) |
| 20:47:17 | | Valoche: G |
| 20:47:48 | BZFlag | ibot x en fr generally |
| 20:47:55 | | BZFlag: :( |
| 20:48:09 | Valoche | okay, 2 "l" ;) |
| 20:48:49 | BZFlag | any idea how much impact the observers will have? |
| 20:49:27 | BZFlag | it would be nice to hack a bzfrelay to handle observers and not use the actual server. |
| 20:49:36 | BZFlag | laggy observer might be bad. |
| 20:49:58 | Chestal | bzflag: I don't think there should be much impact the way I hacked it |
| 20:50:13 | Chestal | bzflag: at lesat not as long as the server's connection isn't the bottleneck |
| 20:50:46 | Chestal | but I wouldn't want a really large number of observers |
| 20:51:04 | duck | neat. |
| 20:51:08 | duck | is TimRiker |
| 20:51:14 | Valoche | Chestal: send me your source so I have a quick look |
| 20:51:23 | Valoche | who is duck ? |
| 20:51:44 | Chestal | Valoche: the source isn't very beautiful :-) |
| 20:51:47 | Chestal | have to find that missing letter bug first |
| 20:52:11 | Valoche | hehe... the php source's not that nice either ;) |
| 20:52:26 | Valoche | I just wanted to help you out with the 1st letter |
| 20:52:39 | Chestal | ah, I found it |
| 20:52:49 | Chestal | I really need a reference book here |
| 20:52:59 | Valoche | just ask ibot ;) |
| 20:53:28 | captain_proton | hi duck |
| 20:55:42 | Chestal | Lupinator is complete now |
| 20:55:49 | Valoche | cool |
| 20:56:29 | Chestal | there are still severalplayers who said they would play the tournament but haven't registered yet |
| 20:56:37 | Valoche | err... the local time should be above the tables, and MUCH biger, and UTC |
| 20:56:55 | Valoche | I could drop them a reminder... |
| 20:57:24 | Valoche | in fact, only OTTOMAN and ZEUS are late, the others got my mail this evenig |
| 20:57:51 | Chestal | Valoche: I don't know how to get it to be UTC, I used SSI for this |
| 20:58:19 | Valoche | why were you all booted ?!? |
| 20:58:32 | duck | net split, ask lilo |
| 20:58:46 | Valoche | er... lilo ? |
| 20:58:51 | Chestal | Valoche: I don't know how to get it to be UTC, I used SSI for this |
| 20:59:03 | Valoche | SSI ?!? |
| 20:59:07 | Valoche | feels stupid |
| 20:59:08 | Chestal | server side includes |
| 20:59:23 | BZFlag | lilo is an ircop here. Rob something. |
| 20:59:29 | Chestal | Valoche: I was talkign about people liek Blaster and Fantazee |
| 21:00:11 | Valoche | oh yes, I read too fast... |
| 21:00:42 | Valoche | I can send Blaster a mail to remind him about the tournament |
| 21:00:57 | Valoche | and Fantazee is often on ducati |
| 21:01:45 | Chestal | I asked Fantazee today and said he should go to your website. Maybe we are just too impatient |
| 21:02:04 | Chestal | there are at least 5 other people who want to come,let's just wait and see |
| 21:02:08 | Valoche | we:=you ;) |
| 21:02:33 | Chestal | ok :-) |
| 21:02:56 | Valoche | taps Chestal gently on the head ;) |
| 21:03:03 | Valoche | (or something like that) |
| 21:03:52 | Valoche | does the local time matches the rounds start time ? |
| 21:04:07 | lupinator | we(the impatient ones) could sign on the others so that they only need to confirm :) |
| 21:04:12 | Chestal | I managed to switch to UTC |
| 21:04:21 | Valoche | I just saw that; that's awesome |
| 21:04:35 | Chestal | lupinator: good idea, we just need their email addresses :-) |
| 21:04:49 | Valoche | lupi: provided you know their e-mail, I wouldn't detect your threat ;) |
| 21:05:06 | Chestal | I will do groups based on the current registrations |
| 21:05:50 | lupinator | hehe i think i hear tankmann coming |
| 21:05:51 | Valoche | okay, let's see that |
| 21:05:51 | Chestal | uh, that looks baaad |
| 21:06:07 | Valoche | why ? because it's too small ? |
| 21:06:21 | Chestal | no, because I am in the same group as lupinator and capn :-) |
| 21:06:40 | Valoche | hehe; I will nail my group >) |
| 21:07:12 | Chestal | yep, don't know how good thwack is, though |
| 21:07:24 | Valoche | well, I'll probably be with OTTOMAN or m0nkey_b0y; yuk! ;) |
| 21:07:26 | Chestal | Ginku and his son in the same group :-) |
| 21:07:41 | Chestal | monkey boy was my favourite target today |
| 21:07:50 | Valoche | we definitely need to send Ginku a webcam ;) |
| 21:08:03 | Valoche | tankmann just registered |
| 21:11:22 | Chestal | I think it was lupi |
| 21:11:22 | lupinator | dubdidu |
| 21:11:23 | Valoche | sends a mail to tankmann :) |
| 21:11:23 | Chestal | lupi: heh, what did you vote? |
| 21:11:23 | lupinator | he said i can do that. he's just too lazy |
| 21:11:23 | Chestal | lupi: that's not fair to vote for him |
| 21:11:23 | Chestal | Valoche: the flag stats look strage |
| 21:11:23 | Valoche | why ? |
| 21:11:24 | Chestal | wait, do only confirmed votes count now? |
| 21:11:24 | Valoche | yes, of course |
| 21:11:24 | Chestal | ah, this has changed, hasn't it? |
| 21:11:24 | Valoche | yep, I changed it tonight |
| 21:11:24 | Chestal | it's better this way |
| 21:11:24 | Valoche | I think so |
| 21:11:24 | Chestal | lupi: what did you vote? |
| 21:11:24 | Valoche | I can tell you if you want ;) |
| 21:11:24 | Chestal | for tankmann |
| 21:11:24 | lupinator | without flags of course |
| 21:11:25 | Valoche | connects to the database |
| 21:11:25 | Chestal | lupinator: tankman wants to play with flags I'm sure ;-) |
| 21:11:36 | Valoche | no flags for tankmann |
| 21:11:50 | Valoche | CapN wants flags |
| 21:11:55 | Valoche | hehe |
| 21:12:01 | Valoche | he wants narrow !!!! |
| 21:12:06 | Chestal | I want narrow, too |
| 21:12:13 | Valoche | you can't have narrow ! |
| 21:12:15 | Chestal | maybe I'll change my vote :-) |
| 21:12:22 | Valoche | you are mean with narrow ;) |
| 21:13:09 | Chestal | uah, hope I won't have to play in green team |
| 21:13:12 | Chestal | I want to be rogue or purple |
| 21:14:24 | lupinator | Chestal: can't you kick out capn and get some ginkus into our group? |
| 21:14:40 | Chestal | I can do a rerun, wait |
| 21:15:00 | lupinator | in the end ginku beats all of us when he doesn't drink beer |
| 21:15:06 | Valoche | if(!strcmp(callsign,"CapN)) put_CapN_at_the_end_of_the_list(); |
| 21:15:09 | Chestal | that looks better to me |
| 21:15:27 | Chestal | lupinator: hmm, that thought hasn't occured to me, yet. But you might be right! |
| 21:15:30 | lupinator | that's better |
| 21:15:33 | Valoche | Ginku and Ginku Jr. still in the same group... |
| 21:15:48 | Chestal | maybe I should buy a crate of beer to drown my depression after losing |
| 21:16:05 | Chestal | I can play as rogue now, much better |
| 21:16:28 | Chestal | it will be strange to fight a coloured lupinator |
| 21:16:38 | Valoche | Chestal: will you need the players' e-mails ? |
| 21:16:53 | Chestal | Valoche: hmm, I don't think so |
| 21:16:58 | Valoche | okay |
| 21:17:44 | Chestal | my brother will come back from vacation on Saturday and I will have to fetch him at the train station |
| 21:17:51 | Valoche | oh BTW, someone managed to close the registration at a 22:02:14; I wonder who... |
| 21:17:55 | Chestal | I hope he will make it before 19:30 |
| 21:17:56 | Valoche | at what time ? |
| 21:18:01 | Chestal | I don't know yet |
| 21:18:26 | Valoche | will he attempt the tournament ? |
| 21:18:30 | Chestal | hmm, didn't understand that about closing the registration |
| 21:18:59 | Valoche | on the admin page, I put a disabled button to block the registrations |
| 21:19:08 | Chestal | he won't, but problem is simply that I will have to be here from 20:00 on Saturday |
| 21:19:30 | Chestal | ah, I tried to click it, but as it is disabled nothing happened |
| 21:20:31 | Valoche | yep, but my code is so bad than I was easy to see that calling admin.php3?action=CloseRegistration would do something funny ;) |
| 21:20:54 | Valoche | and someone did ;) that prevented Ginku to confirm his registration until I fix the problem |
| 21:21:02 | Chestal | tsts. Lupi! |
| 21:21:09 | lupinator | what? |
| 21:21:37 | Chestal | lupinator: confess1 |
| 21:21:38 | lupinator | ottoman already signed on. why should i close it now? |
| 21:22:16 | Valoche | maybe that was ibot, not as stupid as he looks ;)))) |
| 21:22:42 | Valoche | anyway, it's not a big deal, I found it funny ;) |
| 21:24:58 | Valoche | http://pub33.ezboard.com/fbzflagfrm1.showMessage?topicID=145.topic :-/ |
| 21:25:25 | Chestal | is that monkeyboys posting? I just read it |
| 21:25:30 | Valoche | yep |
| 21:25:43 | Chestal | maybe we'll have to incude som ekind of nickserv into future version of the game |
| 21:26:01 | Chestal | you can register your nick / password there and server will contact nickserv and check |
| 21:26:31 | Chestal | but this will only prevent nick abuse, not cheating |
| 21:26:42 | Valoche | that wouldn't solve the cheaters problem |
| 21:26:53 | Chestal | except if you make your server only available to a closed group of players |
| 21:27:01 | Valoche | good point |
| 21:27:08 | Chestal | you could have high quality server which only allow some players to play |
| 21:27:21 | Chestal | of cours there must be a way for new people to be allowed to come |
| 21:27:39 | Valoche | a registration page ? ;o)))) |
| 21:28:11 | Chestal | at least it would be a good idea for tournaments |
| 21:28:29 | Chestal | I hope no freak will disturb our contest |
| 21:28:53 | Valoche | is kicking enabled on your server ? |
| 21:28:56 | Chestal | yes |
| 21:29:09 | Valoche | so you know what to do |
| 21:29:40 | Chestal | yep, but people can of course just rejoin after being kicked |
| 21:30:42 | Valoche | no, if you restrict the number of players (not observers), once every tourney participant has joined, noone else can come disturb us |
| 21:31:25 | Chestal | ok. he could still join as observer, though. But all he could do then is write silly messages |
| 21:31:46 | lupinator | would you like to have a short 15 min. game before going home/to bed? would be nice to see how lng 15 min can be |
| 21:31:46 | Valoche | well, we will all do that... ;) |
| 21:31:58 | Valoche | I'd like that |
| 21:32:19 | Valoche | connects to ducati |
| 21:32:24 | lupinator | chestal? |
| 21:32:37 | Chestal | lupinator: ok, I am tired but I will join |
| 21:48:12 | Valoche | that was funny |
| 21:48:16 | Chestal | I need at least10 minutes to get warm |
| 21:48:54 | Valoche | well, everybody does |
| 21:49:02 | Valoche | so it's fair ;) |
| 21:49:24 | Valoche | hello, 3rd place looser ;))) |
| 21:49:59 | | valoche is nothing but an off-color accumulation of puking Stimpy-drool. |
| 21:49:59 | lupinator | ibot: insult valoche |
| 21:50:10 | Valoche | off-color, yeah right, I was a rogue ;) |
| 21:50:31 | Chestal | is analyzing the score graphs |
| 21:50:50 | Chestal | Valoche had a good start and his score increased nearly linearly |
| 21:51:06 | Valoche | cool :) I have regularity |
| 21:51:26 | Valoche | give me a genocide and my score will increase exponentially ;) |
| 21:51:28 | Chestal | lupinator's score didn't move much, was mostly at 0 or -1 |
| 21:51:41 | Valoche | lupi is regular, too ;) |
| 21:51:51 | Chestal | CHestal had a bad start but scored in the last 4 minutes |
| 21:52:08 | Valoche | ...against Valoche ;) |
| 21:52:37 | Chestal | ByteFax just sucked |
| 21:52:50 | Valoche | hihi |
| 21:52:59 | lupinator | the others really sucked. shots out of nowhere... |
| 21:53:30 | Chestal | but 15 minutes _is_ short |
| 21:53:33 | Valoche | I saw that too... |
| 21:53:43 | Chestal | yep, I kicked the badwire |
| 21:54:09 | Valoche | 15 minutes IF we have 30 players; if we have less the rounds can last longer |
| 21:54:28 | Chestal | and we might also have longer battles in round 2 already,let's see |
| 21:54:37 | Valoche | okay |
| 21:54:40 | Chestal | the final definitely should be at least 30 minutes |
| 21:54:44 | Valoche | yep |
| 21:55:02 | Valoche | good night everyone, I see you tomorrow |
| 21:55:12 | Chestal | ok, good night, will go home now |
| 21:55:15 | lupinator | good night |
| 22:23:27 | captain_proton | hey vogon_jeltz |
| 22:23:36 | vogon_jeltz | hi, cap |
| 22:24:51 | | "Da sky" |
| 22:24:51 | captain_proton | whats up? |
| 22:25:01 | | :) |
| 22:25:01 | captain_proton | ibot, botsnack |
| 22:25:57 | captain_proton | hmmm i have a 1/2 hour to kill |
| 22:26:05 | captain_proton | i'll build myself a new bz client! |
| 22:26:16 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 22:26:21 | vogon_jeltz | I can build one in 5 minutes |
| 22:26:56 | captain_proton | i can check out the source in 15 seconds |
| 22:27:16 | vogon_jeltz | and... uh... darn :( |
| 22:27:50 | captain_proton | see that amd released the palomino? |
| 22:27:55 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 22:29:17 | captain_proton | it looks about equal with the p4 |
| 22:29:24 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 22:29:34 | vogon_jeltz | did you read about Intel' |
| 22:29:39 | vogon_jeltz | Intel's new packaging thing? |
| 22:30:05 | captain_proton | no |
| 22:30:24 | vogon_jeltz | heh... they figured out how to remove the solder balls holding the die to the substrate |
| 22:30:39 | vogon_jeltz | it frees up 3 or 4 levels of silicon for further transistors |
| 22:30:59 | vogon_jeltz | within 6 years, they say they'll be able to have a 1-billion-transistor, 20GHz chip |
| 22:31:53 | captain_proton | oh yeah i glanced at that |
| 22:32:13 | vogon_jeltz | but it'll only be performance-equal to a 14GHz Athlon :) |
| 22:33:07 | captain_proton | lol |
| 22:33:42 | captain_proton | this client is going to be patched like nothing you've ever seen |
| 22:33:48 | vogon_jeltz | aheheh |
| 22:35:25 | captain_proton | wants valoche's patch for colored control panel |
| 22:35:58 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 22:38:21 | captain_proton | barrelaim.patch color.patch crash.patch customctf.patch flagbuilding.patch msgverb.patch radar.patch rotbases.patch safe.patch shots.patch warnings.patch |
| 22:38:52 | vogon_jeltz | woohoo! you're using mine, too :) |
| 22:41:43 | captain_proton | which of yours? |
| 22:50:03 | captain_proton | rather - which are you so happy about? |
| 22:51:06 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 22:51:12 | vogon_jeltz | the flag-on-building one :) |
| 22:51:24 | vogon_jeltz | and the original custom CTF one :) |
| 22:55:50 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 22:56:11 | captain_proton | wait - how do i build it with roaming turned on? |
| 22:57:00 | vogon_jeltz | add -DROAMING to the CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS lines in the Makefile |
| 22:57:26 | captain_proton | cool |
| 22:59:17 | captain_proton | this is going to be a sweet client |
| 22:59:21 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 22:59:31 | vogon_jeltz | what's the crash thing? |
| 22:59:40 | captain_proton | some null pointer checks |
| 22:59:43 | vogon_jeltz | ahh, OK |
| 23:00:02 | vogon_jeltz | I think we should completely rewrite the game for 1.8 or 2.0 |
| 23:00:07 | captain_proton | i think i'm gonna go get dinner now |
| 23:00:20 | captain_proton | ttyl |
| 23:00:28 | vogon_jeltz | because to get my OAL hack in, it's gonna take a lot of crappy pseudo-hooks |
| 23:00:30 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: bye |
| 23:44:09 | captain_proton | yo vogon_jeltz: how does roaming work? |
| 23:44:17 | vogon_jeltz | heh... hit tilde |
| 23:44:42 | vogon_jeltz | and insert, delete, home, end, page up, and page down do the camera movement... I forget which does what |
| 23:45:38 | captain_proton | i found it |
