| 00:03:50 | captain_proton | so...whats up? |
| 00:04:01 | vogon_jeltz | not much |
| 00:04:06 | vogon_jeltz | did I just get netsplit? |
| 00:07:10 | captain_proton | yes |
| 00:07:26 | vogon_jeltz | twice? |
| 00:07:39 | captain_proton | yep |
| 00:07:44 | vogon_jeltz | ahh, OK |
| 00:07:48 | captain_proton | my bed is awesome :) |
| 00:08:07 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 00:08:57 | captain_proton | i need a digital camera |
| 00:10:47 | captain_proton | then i could post pics |
| 00:10:57 | vogon_jeltz | heheh |
| 02:16:30 | CapN | Is anyone there? |
| 02:36:44 | firegod | okay, what was the command to show ping times? |
| 02:36:49 | firegod | for the server listing |
| 02:36:57 | vogon_jeltz | /lagstats |
| 02:37:01 | firegod | gratz |
| 02:37:04 | vogon_jeltz | np |
| 02:37:10 | firegod | -lagstats ? |
| 02:37:11 | firegod | yes. |
| 02:37:25 | vogon_jeltz | no |
| 02:37:31 | firegod | ? |
| 02:37:42 | vogon_jeltz | what exactly are you talking about? :) |
| 02:37:52 | firegod | ingame, or on the commandline? |
| 02:38:00 | vogon_jeltz | ingame |
| 02:38:02 | firegod | oh |
| 02:38:08 | vogon_jeltz | there is no commandline optionj |
| 02:38:12 | vogon_jeltz | option, even |
| 02:38:16 | firegod | yes there are |
| 02:38:19 | firegod | geometry |
| 02:38:23 | firegod | -window |
| 02:38:35 | vogon_jeltz | ohh, you mean to warn people with lag? |
| 02:38:48 | firegod | plays, and will be unable to SWITCH CONTEXT to chat while ingame |
| 02:38:52 | firegod | eh? |
| 02:39:05 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... |
| 02:39:19 | firegod | no, basically show which servers are 'better' to play |
| 02:39:22 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 02:39:24 | firegod | connection-wise |
| 02:39:27 | vogon_jeltz | it does that automatically |
| 02:39:29 | vogon_jeltz | IIRC |
| 02:39:47 | vogon_jeltz | but, there's no way to pop up a numerical list |
| 02:39:50 | firegod | it seems to sort the ones with most players to the top. |
| 02:40:02 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... :/ |
| 02:40:10 | vogon_jeltz | well, choose the servers at the bottom ;) |
| 02:40:15 | firegod | no one is on them (: |
| 02:40:23 | firegod | I want to see best connection of the populated servers (: |
| 02:40:25 | vogon_jeltz | yes, but there's no lag |
| 02:40:33 | firegod | well.. right. |
| 02:40:45 | firegod | ignores that suggestion, and just plays. |
| 02:40:46 | firegod | (: |
| 02:40:51 | vogon_jeltz | IIRC, the least laggy servers of the populated ones (with the same number of players) float to the top, too |
| 05:50:40 | vogon_jeltz | is away: playing T2 |
| 06:52:08 | captain_proton | hi vogon_jeltz |
| 06:52:12 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 06:52:57 | vogon_jeltz | heh... I'm learning Tribes2 fast :) |
| 06:53:07 | captain_proton | i'm admiring my bed |
| 06:54:13 | vogon_jeltz | heheh |
| 06:54:57 | captain_proton | and i'm going to sleep |
| 06:55:13 | captain_proton | after i start red carpet updating |
| 06:56:18 | captain_proton | wow - the loki demos are on red carpet |
| 06:56:50 | captain_proton | ok - goodnight |
| 06:58:18 | vogon_jeltz | nn |
| 07:34:43 | vogon_jeltz | is away: watching an infomercial... man, am I bored |
| 07:34:58 | I_KalamBa | so, what do I care? |
| 07:35:07 | I_KalamBa | If you're bored |
| 07:35:40 | I_KalamBa | <({[go play BZFlag]})> |
| 08:07:51 | I_KalamBa | hi u |
| 08:16:30 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:41:48) |
| 08:17:07 | vogon_jeltz | I_KalamBa: heh... I'm waiting to get back into the BZFlag craze until we can start working on 1.8 officially |
| 08:41:01 | I_KalamBa | hope it will be s(p)ooooooooon. |
| 08:41:14 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:24:39 | lupinator | good morning |
| 09:24:49 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 09:33:57 | Chestal | hello |
| 09:47:09 | I_KalamBa | goom morning = GM? |
| 09:49:01 | Chestal | I like the smell of GM in the morning |
| 09:51:45 | Chestal | just finished my tool to automatically create tournament groups |
| 10:16:06 | vogon_jeltz | is away: watching Meet The Press |
| 10:22:59 | I_KalamBa | hi |
| 10:23:12 | callsign | hi ikb |
| 10:27:42 | I_KalamBa | chestal, what does the automatically create tournament groups tool do? |
| 10:37:35 | I_KalamBa | slaps Chestal around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:37:58 | I_KalamBa | msorry(:- |
| 11:00:52 | akira | moin |
| 11:09:31 | I_KalamBa | every1 is sleeping? |
| 11:09:53 | akira | nope |
| 11:10:41 | I_KalamBa | its boring here |
| 11:10:51 | akira | go playing football :) |
| 11:11:28 | I_KalamBa | come boogie to play BZFlag! ): |
| 12:19:18 | Chestal | hi Kalmba: Will you participate in the tournament? |
| 12:29:03 | akira | chestal : how is the plan for the t going on ? |
| 12:31:02 | Chestal | akira: Valoahce will try to get a website for registration up today |
| 12:31:29 | akira | ok |
| 12:31:32 | Chestal | akira: I wrote a small program for distributing players into groups in a fair way |
| 12:31:40 | Chestal | at least I think it's fair :-) |
| 12:31:59 | akira | ok |
| 12:37:24 | I_KalamBa | Yes I Will |
| 12:37:45 | akira | where is valoches website ? |
| 12:40:01 | I_KalamBa | http://bzflag.free.fr/ |
| 12:42:13 | akira | thx |
| 12:43:03 | Chestal | Kalamba: would you liek to play with or without flags? |
| 12:43:30 | akira | we could put this question on the regristration site ;) |
| 12:47:45 | Chestal | hmm, yep, we coudl do that. YOu vote when you register |
| 12:51:42 | I_KalamBa | good idea and better is without |
| 12:51:48 | I_KalamBa | also ask about jumps |
| 12:57:45 | I_KalamBa | good bye (= Game Boy) |
| 13:53:34 | CapN | Hello |
| 14:07:15 | CapN | so what type of tools you working on? |
| 14:07:25 | Chestal | ah, hi again |
| 14:07:32 | CapN | sorry, hi. |
| 14:07:48 | Chestal | I wrote a small utility which distributes players into groups of a given maimum size |
| 14:08:30 | Chestal | I can attribute each player with a skill level, respectively a position |
| 14:09:01 | Chestal | so, Players who scores best in the first round get level 1, those who scored 2nd get level 2 |
| 14:09:16 | Chestal | it tries to avoid putting all level 1 players into the same group |
| 14:09:37 | Chestal | nothing fancy, but I think this is the best way to do it |
| 14:10:12 | Chestal | capn: would you liek to play with or without flags? |
| 14:10:23 | CapN | initially are you assigning the level to each player |
| 14:10:46 | Chestal | initially all players get the same level |
| 14:11:09 | Chestal | so for the first round groups will be chosen randomly |
| 14:11:35 | Chestal | we discussed that yesterday, some peopel wanted to avoid that good players are int eh same group in round 1 |
| 14:11:54 | Chestal | but we have no objective metric which we could apply, so I think random is fairest |
| 14:12:25 | CapN | i agree, should be random the first time out. We could keep some sort of ranking or seeding going forward.. |
| 14:12:48 | CapN | As for flags, if there are 4 or 5 players i think we should have flags. |
| 14:13:28 | Chestal | we will have a maximum of 5 players, migh tbe less depending on the number of total players of course |
| 14:14:09 | Chestal | hmm, flags or no flags is a hot topic :-) I guess we will just let the players vote for either when registrating |
| 14:14:17 | Chestal | oehm, registering |
| 14:14:43 | CapN | That brings up a question i had, which i'm sure was discussed yesterday, |
| 14:14:44 | Chestal | I need to write some small text outlining how the tournament is going to work |
| 14:14:59 | CapN | what type of things are being requested when registering. |
| 14:15:34 | Chestal | I guess we wil do callsign and email address |
| 14:16:01 | Chestal | Valoche should be here later this day with a first version of the tournament web page |
| 14:16:56 | Chestal | lupinator is settign up some kind of easy IRC access via WWW for the IRC impaired |
| 14:17:04 | CapN | yes i went to his site and saw that message. When you say some text? Do you mean for the forum page or Valoche's site? |
| 14:17:37 | Chestal | I guess we'll put it on Valoche's site |
| 14:17:58 | Chestal | for the forum it should be enough to point to that site |
| 14:18:30 | Chestal | the site should include the details, i.e. server setting, how to register, time+date, mode of tournament, irc... |
| 14:18:51 | CapN | for IRC it is pretty simple i guess. No one could be more technically impaired than me, and I got it figured out. |
| 14:19:03 | Chestal | :-) |
| 14:19:17 | CapN | What type of discussion went on regarding lag? |
| 14:19:29 | Chestal | we concluded that we wouldnt do anything about lag |
| 14:19:48 | Chestal | we'll just see how it works out, maybe we'll have to change that for future tournaments |
| 14:20:10 | Chestal | we will play timed batlles, btw. (server enforced), we will start with 15 minutes for round 1 |
| 14:20:22 | CapN | well, it seems rare that there's someone who's lag on your server is a lot worse than others. |
| 14:20:47 | Chestal | there are a few people with annoying lag and decent skills |
| 14:21:17 | Chestal | but I hope that laggy people will be eliminated int he first round :-) |
| 14:21:21 | CapN | my lag on ducati is probably one of the higher ones, by lagstats standard anyway. I always seem to get huge spikes. |
| 14:21:38 | Chestal | those spikes are strage sometimes |
| 14:21:46 | Chestal | haven't quite grasped what's happening there |
| 14:21:49 | CapN | although the actual lag when playing never seems to be too bad. thats how i judge it. |
| 14:22:00 | Chestal | might have to do with other problems like flag mismatch etc., it all lokks like messages get lost |
| 14:22:28 | CapN | yeah, i have a lot of problems with flags, kills not showing etc. |
| 14:22:56 | Chestal | we'll do 2 best out of 5 and will probably give 3rd ranked a second chance by battlign each other |
| 14:23:26 | Chestal | but this also depends on the number of total players |
| 14:23:36 | CapN | so 15 minutes huh, that could go reaaaaalll fast! |
| 14:23:38 | Chestal | we guessed that maybe 20-30 would register |
| 14:23:53 | Chestal | yes, but with 30 players, we have 6 first round battles |
| 14:23:57 | CapN | yeah, i was thinking around 20-25 people playing. |
| 14:24:04 | Chestal | with 15 minutes+5 minutes break, round 1 will take 2 hours this way |
| 14:24:29 | Chestal | maybe we can increase the time limit for late rounds |
| 14:24:45 | CapN | it will be highest score correct. |
| 14:24:52 | Chestal | we also thguht about doing battles simultaneosuly, but decided against it |
| 14:25:19 | Chestal | hmm? 2 out of 5 qualify, highest score, no skill ratio or anything |
| 14:25:47 | CapN | what would happen with a tie at the 15 minute time limit? |
| 14:26:06 | Chestal | when theer are two people with the same score, we'll let the skill ratio decide |
| 14:26:32 | Chestal | if both number of wins and losses match exactly, I guess both will qualify |
| 14:27:16 | lupinator | hi there |
| 14:27:27 | Chestal | depdning on the number of players we might get problems finding a suitabe number of players for the next round (and the final!) anyway |
| 14:27:35 | CapN | it should all go fine, a pretty decent group i imagine, and all will be understanding when it comes to questions that arise. |
| 14:27:42 | CapN | hi lupi. |
| 14:27:47 | Chestal | I guess we can handle this on Saturday |
| 14:27:47 | Chestal | hi lupi |
| 14:29:15 | CapN | if we end up with 25 players that would mean 4 people in a final. |
| 14:29:47 | Chestal | yes, if we do not use a match for lucky losers (3rd ranked) |
| 14:30:12 | CapN | thats right, we have to give lupi a chance, i forgot! |
| 14:30:29 | lupinator | grmpf |
| 14:30:44 | CapN | just seeing if your watching. |
| 14:30:57 | Chestal | as I am the one who will device who goes into which group, I can just start my tool again and again until lupi gets into a real killer group :-) |
| 14:31:44 | CapN | you could have a real power house group show up, with some good players coming in 3rd and 4th. |
| 14:31:44 | lupinator | every group with me is a kill group |
| 14:32:20 | CapN | it will be interesting to see what the "high score" for a round will be. |
| 14:32:37 | Chestal | /msg lupinator is our special tournament cheat version finished? |
| 14:32:40 | Chestal | oops |
| 14:33:00 | Chestal | capn: I guess this will vary greatly for each group |
| 14:33:20 | Chestal | capn; at least in round 1 we will have groups with a wide range of skill levels |
| 14:33:27 | lupinator | i'm stil restricting it so that it won't get abused |
| 14:33:40 | lupinator | oh, cheat |
| 14:34:49 | Chestal | I am considering smart tank placement. I would love to pop up right behind tanks ;-) |
| 14:35:19 | Chestal | lupi: I guess our safer placement is ok to use, because it doesn't give us an advantage |
| 14:35:44 | lupinator | anything in cvs should be fine |
| 14:36:12 | Chestal | well, my newest patch isn't in CVS yet |
| 14:36:50 | lupinator | i think it's ok |
| 14:37:16 | lupinator | unfortunately we can't score as fast as the others |
| 14:37:36 | Chestal | lupi: yes, but we won't lose score as fast either |
| 14:37:45 | Chestal | lupi; at least when coming alive |
| 14:37:48 | CapN | will everyone have to get any patches to play? |
| 14:38:00 | Chestal | no patches needed |
| 14:38:16 | Chestal | anything >= 1.7e2 should be fine, even older clients are acceptable I guess |
| 14:39:08 | CapN | i had big time lag problems with one of Valoches patch |
| 14:39:39 | Chestal | strage, his changed shoudln't affect things like lag, haven't tried his version, though |
| 14:40:10 | Chestal | I am experimenting with plotting player scores over time right now, just for fun |
| 14:40:21 | CapN | i guess it was with the text message. with every message that was displayed it made everything jump. |
| 14:41:09 | CapN | chestal: i was wondering about that. what type of data/infor. do you capture? as far as player stats would go? |
| 14:41:37 | Chestal | CapN: well, for the tournament score at the end of each battel should be enough |
| 14:42:00 | Chestal | Capn: curently, I just gather the scores of all players every minute or so and display them as a simple line plot |
| 14:44:36 | lupinator | perhaps we could parse the outpout of an observer client, too |
| 14:52:07 | CapN | well, i'd better go practice! |
| 14:52:41 | Chestal | I will need to get some special energy food for Satursday :-) |
| 14:53:53 | CapN | i need to get special permission (my wife), middle of the day Saturday is usually family time! |
| 14:54:24 | captain_proton | hi guys |
| 14:54:37 | CapN | hi Captain |
| 14:54:40 | Chestal | CapN: well, maeb you're lucky and scheduled for the first battle. You won't survive that anyway ;-) |
| 14:54:51 | Chestal | hi proton |
| 14:54:54 | CapN | your probably right Chestal!! |
| 14:55:13 | captain_proton | goes back to sleep |
| 14:55:31 | CapN | has anyone heard from Kono? |
| 14:57:22 | CapN | Chestal? |
| 14:57:30 | Chestal | CapN: not for some time |
| 14:57:41 | lupinator | CapN: make your family a support group (massages, fetching water ...) |
| 14:57:52 | Chestal | I think I can remember that I mentioned the tournament to him once and he seemed to be eager to participate |
| 14:58:23 | CapN | good ideal lupi...Chestal: I have his email address from way back. Maybe i'll send him a note this week. |
| 14:58:42 | Chestal | CapN: sounds liek a good idea! |
| 14:59:02 | Chestal | my biggest fear is that we get too many good players into the tournament and no newbies or mediocre players |
| 14:59:03 | lupinator | i wonder if he is going to play as kono |
| 14:59:33 | CapN | I'll ask him to use Kono as his name. |
| 15:00:20 | CapN | I think there will be enough mediocre players. |
| 15:00:59 | Chestal | I hope so, I would be embarassed to not qualify for round 2 |
| 15:01:14 | Chestal | but in the case of emergency I can always fake a server crash ;-) |
| 15:01:32 | Chestal | I hope we won't have any technical problems |
| 15:01:50 | CapN | i think we'll all have that fear, it really is a toss up when it comese down to the 5 or so best. i think. |
| 15:02:08 | CapN | will there be a limit to the observors? |
| 15:02:50 | Chestal | currently the server has a limit of 15 observers |
| 15:03:06 | Chestal | I amnot quite sure what the best limit would be |
| 15:03:47 | Chestal | a huge number of observers shouldn't affect game play too much, but I still feel that it's better to limit it to a reasonable number |
| 15:04:36 | CapN | that should be fine i think. |
| 15:07:25 | CapN | well, i have my excuse all ready. i had to get a new mouse last week, and i'm still adjusting to it. |
| 15:07:37 | CapN | Have you guys used an optical mouse before? |
| 15:08:09 | lupinator | not yet |
| 15:08:43 | Chestal | no, still have my opto-mechanical ball mouse |
| 15:08:52 | Chestal | but those mice are good, quite accurate |
| 15:09:09 | Chestal | hmm, that reminds me, I changed my mouse a few days ago |
| 15:09:25 | Chestal | so I also have an excuse, but a very weak one, as I replaced it by an identical one :-) |
| 15:10:54 | CapN | question for you guys. My wife works from home alot on her laptop with a horrible dial up speed to her office. |
| 15:11:25 | CapN | i was going to get a router to hook up our pc and her laptop so she could take advantage of our cable modem access. |
| 15:11:40 | CapN | Will using a router make BZ flag play worse? |
| 15:14:28 | Chestal | capn: I think the difference shoudln't be noticeable |
| 15:22:14 | lupinator | brb |
| 17:33:08 | Chestal | hi mbarron |
| 17:36:30 | Valoche | hi |
| 17:39:44 | Chestal | ooops |
| 18:00:20 | Valoche | somebody here ??? |
| 18:03:26 | Chestal | yes! |
| 18:03:29 | Chestal | I missed you earlier |
| 18:03:39 | Valoche | ha... |
| 18:03:44 | Valoche | I am just writing you a mail |
| 18:03:54 | Chestal | oh, go on with the mail :-) |
| 18:04:02 | Valoche | okay |
| 18:04:04 | Valoche | BRB |
| 18:04:46 | Chestal | I am right now writing a little description of the tournament in FAQ style |
| 18:04:51 | Valoche | k |
| 18:07:40 | Valoche | mail sent |
| 18:07:55 | Valoche | I have to go eat right now, I'll be back in about 10 minutes |
| 18:08:14 | Chestal | ok, hope you have a fine meal |
| 18:16:51 | Valoche | Done |
| 18:17:35 | lupinator | good timing |
| 18:17:45 | Valoche | hey lupi |
| 18:18:09 | lupinator | but wasn't that a bit short for a french meal? ;-) |
| 18:18:23 | Valoche | err... a steack + spaghettis ;) |
| 18:18:57 | lupinator | ok, that does not count |
| 18:18:59 | Chestal | mjam, I'm hungry |
| 18:19:08 | Chestal | Valoche: your mail didn't make it to me, yet |
| 18:19:34 | Valoche | is gl600@appl2.hrz.uni-siegen.de correct ? |
| 18:21:34 | Chestal | uh, not really |
| 18:21:39 | Chestal | this addres is ooooold |
| 18:21:47 | Valoche | update your web site, man ;) |
| 18:21:47 | Chestal | might no longer work, I don't know |
| 18:21:56 | Chestal | thilo@unix-ag.org is the correct one |
| 18:22:16 | Chestal | haven;t updated my web site for 6 years :-) |
| 18:22:30 | Valoche | mail resent |
| 18:22:35 | Chestal | but still, where did you find the gl600 address? I haven't been using it for a loooong time |
| 18:22:42 | Chestal | ah,there it is |
| 18:23:01 | Valoche | search Frank Thilo on google ;) |
| 18:23:54 | Valoche | nope, it's not that... I don't know how I found this address 8-) |
| 18:24:19 | Chestal | I will have a look at what you created now |
| 18:24:30 | Chestal | hmm, browser is still loading |
| 18:24:40 | Valoche | It's kinda long :( |
| 18:25:09 | Chestal | hmm, I got your main page quickly, but the registration page doesn't load? |
| 18:25:23 | Valoche | yes it does, but it's slow |
| 18:25:26 | Chestal | btw., akira had a good idea, I don't know if it's easy for you to implement |
| 18:25:34 | Valoche | just tell me |
| 18:25:51 | Chestal | is it possible to add a vote for / against flags button to the registration form? |
| 18:26:02 | Chestal | ah, has loaded now |
| 18:26:09 | Valoche | Yep, no problem for the vote |
| 18:26:45 | Valoche | Stupid free.fr, mysql is slow there :( |
| 18:26:57 | Chestal | that would be great,so we could decide the flag issue this way |
| 18:27:10 | Chestal | shoudl I try and fill in my registration anyway? |
| 18:27:12 | Valoche | okay, I'll do that |
| 18:29:53 | Chestal | strange that mysql can be that slow, but at least it works |
| 18:30:23 | Valoche | well, the pages and the db aren't on the same server, maybe that's the problem |
| 18:31:52 | Chestal | hmm it seems to take about 25s each time? Maybe some kind of timeout? name server lookup or something? |
| 18:32:24 | Valoche | maybe; I will try (now) to put the IP address of the mysql server directly in the scripts; BRB |
| 18:32:32 | Chestal | hmm, my 25s theory just stopped working :-) |
| 18:32:53 | Chestal | I think it's getting faster |
| 18:33:43 | Valoche | did you read my mail ? |
| 18:35:30 | Valoche | okay, you confirmed your registration |
| 18:35:32 | Chestal | which one? your original or the confirmation mail? |
| 18:35:38 | Valoche | the original one |
| 18:35:50 | Chestal | in your registrastion mail the URL was split on two lines |
| 18:35:58 | Chestal | I had to manually join them together |
| 18:36:11 | Valoche | okay, I'll work on that |
| 18:36:43 | Chestal | except for theseminor glitches: great work! |
| 18:37:07 | Valoche | it was the best I could do in 2.5 hours. GLups! |
| 18:37:20 | Chestal | this afternoon I hacked a small utility which will create the groups automatically |
| 18:37:35 | Valoche | I've just pointed out that the phpMyAdmin at free.fr is pretty fast; I'll do some research tonight |
| 18:37:42 | Valoche | utility: cool |
| 18:37:42 | Chestal | I'll have to feed it a player list of course |
| 18:37:51 | Valoche | yes, I still have to write the admin page |
| 18:38:03 | Valoche | but I have more time, now :) |
| 18:38:27 | Chestal | I'm nearly finished with my text, it's only plain tetx, though no HTML |
| 18:38:47 | Valoche | No problem, I'll format it |
| 18:44:47 | Chestal | what's the traceroute command on windows? tracerte? |
| 18:45:20 | Valoche | tracert |
| 18:45:55 | Chestal | hmm, I wonder if I touched all issues |
| 18:46:20 | Valoche | did you talk about pausing ? |
| 18:47:59 | Chestal | good point, I didn't |
| 18:48:05 | Valoche | oh |
| 18:48:06 | Chestal | should we disallow pausing? |
| 18:48:13 | Valoche | yep! |
| 18:54:02 | Valoche | Hey Tim |
| 18:54:41 | Chestal | ah, forgot to mention the observer mode |
| 18:55:19 | Valoche | that will help ;) |
| 18:59:51 | Chestal | ok, I probably will have forgotten something, but the text is in the mail |
| 18:59:58 | Chestal | please correct any typos you encounter |
| 19:00:01 | Valoche | okay |
| 19:00:16 | Valoche | oh my god, that's a long one |
| 19:00:25 | Chestal | well, I did no tplan to write that much |
| 19:00:31 | Valoche | ;) |
| 19:00:50 | Valoche | go eat, meanwhile I'll beautify the text |
| 19:02:36 | Chestal | I'm in the office, nothing to eat here :-( |
| 19:02:57 | Valoche | er.. it's 22:00pm ?!? |
| 19:04:05 | Chestal | well, I got up at about 11:00 this morning |
| 19:04:19 | Chestal | and I'm doing all my bzflag playing int he office anyway |
| 19:05:34 | Valoche | I wish I could; well, I am working on the FAQ -> HTML, BRB |
| 19:06:17 | Chestal | ok |
| 19:17:06 | Valoche | FAQ finished! It needs some more work (link urls), but I think it looks fine |
| 19:17:30 | Chestal | looks nice |
| 19:18:07 | Chestal | probably some native English speaker should proofread it, haven't even read it myself :-) |
| 19:18:27 | Valoche | We can try and send it to babylon translarot 8-) |
| 19:18:34 | Valoche | ner... translator |
| 19:18:34 | Chestal | lupi: please have a look at http://bzflag.free.fr/ |
| 19:18:44 | Chestal | yep, translate it backand forth |
| 19:18:54 | Valoche | okay, that will be fun ;) |
| 19:19:05 | Chestal | hmm, shoudl we have a registration deadline? |
| 19:19:11 | Valoche | absolutely! |
| 19:20:07 | Chestal | hmm, when? Saturday morning CEST? |
| 19:20:10 | Valoche | you need some time to split up the groups after we receive the last registration |
| 19:20:13 | Chestal | oh, MEST shoudl be CEST in the FAQ |
| 19:20:24 | Valoche | kinda synonyms |
| 19:20:28 | Chestal | oh should we have the deadline on Friday already? |
| 19:20:51 | Chestal | will have to create the groups and put those onthe web page |
| 19:21:08 | Chestal | shoudln't take too long, but still |
| 19:21:13 | Valoche | not really, I think that 0:00 saturday morning would be fine |
| 19:21:24 | Valoche | 0:00 US time, I think... |
| 19:21:34 | Valoche | that's about 7am CET |
| 19:21:42 | Valoche | nut I'm not sure ;) |
| 19:22:22 | Chestal | shoudl be 6 hours for east coast and 9 hours for west coast (as long as both sides of the ocean have daylight savings time) |
| 19:22:43 | Valoche | okay, so 9am saturday morning IS the deadline; agreed ? |
| 19:23:10 | Valoche | or maybe 11am if you wanna sleep ;) |
| 19:23:43 | Chestal | oh well, we can announce 9am deadline and still sleep :-) |
| 19:24:15 | Valoche | nope, remember that the registration is kinda manual (sic), and that I want to sleep too ;) |
| 19:24:37 | BZFlag | is back from his weekend. nice work getting a tournament together! |
| 19:24:47 | Valoche | nthx |
| 19:24:50 | Chestal | ah, hi Tim! I hope it will be a success |
| 19:24:53 | Valoche | er... thx |
| 19:24:55 | Chestal | (i.e. I win :-) |
| 19:25:10 | Valoche | if you win, you'll get an Oma Herta T-shirt ;) |
| 19:25:46 | Valoche | " patched to allow a so-aclled observer mode": typo ???? |
| 19:25:50 | Chestal | hehe, forgot to mention the prize in the FAQ |
| 19:25:56 | Valoche | oh I got that, so-called ;) |
| 19:25:58 | Chestal | yep, typcail typo |
| 19:26:05 | Chestal | eh, typical :-) |
| 19:26:27 | Valoche | you suck ;o)))))))))) |
| 19:26:37 | BZFlag | I can't see anything on http://bzflag.free.fr/ with Netscape 4.x on Linux. |
| 19:26:49 | Chestal | hmm, looks ok with Mozilla, let me check |
| 19:26:53 | Valoche | uh? that sucks |
| 19:27:03 | Valoche | do you have frames ? (stupid question) |
| 19:27:36 | BZFlag | you never end the frameset. |
| 19:27:41 | Chestal | Valoche: he's right, same for me with Netscape 4.x here |
| 19:27:54 | Valoche | Well, "au temps pour moi", I'll correct it in seconds |
| 19:28:42 | Valoche | done! |
| 19:28:47 | Chestal | works |
| 19:28:51 | Valoche | stupid IE !!!!!! |
| 19:29:26 | Valoche | oh BW, while I got both of you, do you think that with colorblindness, we should be able to "see" other's tanks flags ??? |
| 19:29:38 | lupinator | tim: is it ok to use a web interface for #bzflag? |
| 19:30:11 | lupinator | http://www.forchheimer-bastionsgaerten.de/cgi-bin/irc.cgi |
| 19:30:35 | Chestal | Valoche: hmm, good question. You're referrinc to the flag display in the score hud? |
| 19:31:00 | Valoche | nope, I'm referring to the right-click |
| 19:31:18 | Valoche | lupi: could you make the page http://www.forchheimer-bastionsgaerten.de/bz/cgiirc/html/launch.html more friendly ? please ? :) |
| 19:31:32 | BZFlag | lupinator: what ever gets you here is fine by me. color spamming is to be avoided though. ;-) |
| 19:31:39 | lupinator | i'm still not sure which settings to use |
| 19:32:11 | BZFlag | ahh, the frames work now. |
| 19:32:13 | Chestal | lupinator: but the entry page really sucks :-) |
| 19:32:25 | Chestal | lupinator: where you have to type in your nick |
| 19:32:49 | BZFlag | are you going to use the channel here to host the tournament? |
| 19:33:00 | Valoche | lupi: how can I change the <form> tag ?!?!? 8-) |
| 19:33:08 | Valoche | Tim: yes |
| 19:33:11 | BZFlag | who's going to be in charge? I could op you for the tournament. |
| 19:33:16 | lupinator | i currently restrict it to #bzflag with /msg, who, nick, whois, list and quit |
| 19:33:35 | Valoche | Tim: Chestal's in charge of the whole thing |
| 19:33:43 | Chestal | Valoche: are you working on the flag vote button? (don't want to push you) |
| 19:33:49 | Chestal | yes,I guess it's me |
| 19:33:54 | Chestal | thanks |
| 19:33:57 | Valoche | okay-okay, give me a few minutes; BRB |
| 19:34:04 | lupinator | launch.html is only this template |
| 19:34:28 | Chestal | Valoche: take your time, just wanted to make sure you haven't forgotten and I would want it to work before we announce the registration site |
| 19:34:46 | Valoche | so okay, what is your vote, so I update your entry before hand ? |
| 19:35:12 | Valoche | lupi: the default value for the callsign shouldn't be "callsign" BTW |
| 19:35:36 | BZFlag | Chestal: you have not registered with nickserv? do so and then I'll add you to the ops list. |
| 19:35:40 | BZFlag | bbiab |
| 19:36:34 | Chestal | BZFlag: wow, there's a nickserv here? It's just like those old days on IRCNet about 9 years ago. I forgot how to use nickserv :-) |
| 19:36:54 | Chestal | but I am figuring it out |
| 19:37:30 | Chestal | ok, I am registered I guess |
| 19:44:10 | Valoche | The flag voting stuff is now running; what's your vote, Chestal ? |
| 19:45:56 | Chestal | pong |
| 19:46:17 | Valoche | what kind of vote is that ? ;) |
| 19:46:47 | Chestal | don't care :-) |
| 19:47:36 | Valoche | okay, that's the default vote anyway |
| 19:52:43 | Valoche | The forms should be faster now; I forgot to use mysql persistent connections... |
| 19:55:27 | Chestal | yep, seemto be way faster |
| 19:55:40 | Chestal | does the voting work already? |
| 19:56:48 | Valoche | yes it works |
| 19:57:06 | Valoche | I'll add some statistics on the attendees page |
| 19:57:26 | Valoche | keeping votes anonymous is better IMO |
| 19:57:38 | Chestal | I agree |
| 19:57:45 | Valoche | gimme 5 minutes |
| 20:03:33 | lupi | i hope you are satisfied now |
| 20:04:06 | Valoche | jus tin time |
| 20:04:17 | Valoche | we now have flags statistics on the attendees page |
| 20:04:36 | Chestal | lupi: that's definitely better |
| 20:04:54 | Valoche | lupi: yep, very nice |
| 20:05:30 | lupi | th only thing that bothers me is the userlist |
| 20:05:50 | Chestal | Valoche: by looking at the stats I conclude that you like to play with flags :-) |
| 20:05:53 | lupi | especially the commands i don#t allow |
| 20:06:06 | BZFlag | Chestal: added. |
| 20:06:09 | Valoche | Hehe... you knew it already ;) |
| 20:06:35 | Chestal | BZFlag: great |
| 20:06:58 | Chestal | lupi: hmm, you could disable most commands I guess. No need for someone using the web interface to kick or ban |
| 20:07:25 | Chestal | Valoche: well, I guess we can announce the page now? |
| 20:07:40 | Valoche | Let's do it :] Where will you annouce it ? |
| 20:08:08 | Chestal | bzflag.de forum, bzflag users mailing list and welcome message on ducati |
| 20:08:20 | Chestal | hmm, how do I open a new thread in this forum thingy? |
| 20:08:31 | lupi | they are disabled in the back end. i just have not figure out yet how to remove them from the front end |
| 20:08:31 | Chestal | do I have to be a regsitered user? Or amI just blind? |
| 20:08:38 | Chestal | lupi: ah |
| 20:09:51 | Chestal | oho, lupi registering |
| 20:10:15 | Valoche | Chestal: you have to login |
| 20:10:29 | Chestal | Valoche: hmmph, I hate this Forum anyway, annoying popups |
| 20:10:35 | lupinator | hm is it just my mail client or is there a line break in the confirmation mail? |
| 20:10:43 | Valoche | yep, but it's the only one active |
| 20:10:46 | Chestal | Valoche: woudl youliek to do announce there? I'll start by postign to the maling list |
| 20:10:56 | Valoche | lupi: I know, I know... let me configure that stupid outlook ;) |
| 20:11:02 | Chestal | outlook sucks |
| 20:11:11 | Valoche | Chestal: okay, I'll do it |
| 20:11:17 | Valoche | Chestal: yes I know |
| 20:13:52 | lupi | why am i not confirmed? |
| 20:13:58 | Valoche | deadline: October 13th, 11:00am CET ? |
| 20:14:28 | Valoche | did you get the confirmation message after clicking the link ? |
| 20:14:54 | lupi | i got to the sign up form |
| 20:15:17 | Valoche | You have to cut/paste the broken URL into one line |
| 20:16:26 | Valoche | that's better, lupi |
| 20:17:07 | lupi | ah! the line break got converted to " " |
| 20:17:27 | Valoche | I just sent you a test message, tell me if it's okay |
| 20:17:50 | Valoche | you can click on the link, it won't break things up ;) |
| 20:18:05 | lupi | yep, that's ok |
| 20:18:13 | Valoche | cool. Stupid outlook ;) |
| 20:18:29 | Valoche | hey! how comes you think flags are for loosers ?!?!! ;)))) |
| 20:19:05 | lupi | cause i'm going to play withput flags |
| 20:19:14 | lupi | and i'm the winner! |
| 20:19:50 | Valoche | ohohoh |
| 20:20:10 | Chestal | lupi: as I said before, it's ok if you play without flags, I'll take the laser |
| 20:21:04 | Chestal | let's see if some poeple sign up, I told those at ducati |
| 20:21:15 | Chestal | I just hope not everyone will register and then not show up on Saturday |
| 20:21:18 | lupinator | is looking for the cloaking flag |
| 20:21:22 | Valoche | I'll remember that; now my aim is to steamroll you twice in a row to humiliate you ;))) |
| 20:21:35 | Valoche | Chestal: I had an idea for that... |
| 20:21:49 | Chestal | go on |
| 20:22:02 | Valoche | I go, I go, I had to send the post on ezboard... |
| 20:22:36 | Chestal | is in a hurry cause he wants to get to his fridge ASAP |
| 20:22:52 | Valoche | okay: you should setup your server for 5 rogues max (one group), and hack the code to reject connections from non-rogues non-observers |
| 20:22:59 | Valoche | for the unwanted rogues, you can just kick them |
| 20:23:35 | BZFlag | no need to hack the code... set the color limits to 0 |
| 20:23:46 | Valoche | yep, but the observers ? |
| 20:23:46 | Chestal | Valoche: hmm, I don't get it |
| 20:24:03 | Chestal | Valoche: which prolem exactly do you want to solve? |
| 20:24:24 | Valoche | Chestal: we don't want, say Tazz, to join as a blue tank and blast everything on the battlefield |
| 20:24:24 | Chestal | I was worrying about people registering now because they are eager to play and then not playing on Saturday |
| 20:24:31 | Valoche | ah ok |
| 20:24:38 | BZFlag | observers are still not fully implemented, unless someone has code I have not seen yet. |
| 20:24:51 | Chestal | BZFlag: I did a quick hack |
| 20:25:02 | Chestal | BZFlag: but it shoul dbe redone in a clean way |
| 20:25:03 | BZFlag | Chestal: patch on SF yet? |
| 20:25:13 | Chestal | BZFlag: nope, it's too hackish for that |
| 20:25:18 | Chestal | BZFlag: it's a server only change |
| 20:25:35 | Chestal | BZFLag: have to login with @ as first letter of callsign to become observer |
| 20:26:01 | Chestal | BZFlag: and you can still be killed by shots, which is a little annoying |
| 20:26:02 | BZFlag | wild. |
| 20:26:05 | Valoche | BZ: I tried and login on ducati as a real "observer" -> everyone got booted ;)) |
| 20:26:18 | Chestal | BZFlag: I needed a solution which woudl work without a client change |
| 20:26:21 | lupinator | faq: 1.7e0 won't do because of the lack of udp |
| 20:26:40 | Chestal | oh, I thought 7e0 already had UDP, but I might be mistaken |
| 20:27:08 | Valoche | lupi: in which version UDP was 1st supported ? |
| 20:27:37 | BZFlag | nope UDP was added in 1.7e1 from franks fx version. |
| 20:28:23 | Chestal | BZFlag: as you mention SF patches... Have you taken a look at my newest tank placement? |
| 20:28:25 | Valoche | okay, I modified the FAQ |
| 20:29:17 | Chestal | Ottoman is getting too much training these days |
| 20:29:24 | Chestal | he'splaying for hours again |
| 20:29:51 | Valoche | yeah, he totally nailed me sunday night |
| 20:30:08 | Chestal | he's become one of the best on ducati |
| 20:31:09 | Valoche | if flags are to be enabled, we should NOT have THIN ;) |
| 20:31:18 | Chestal | I like narrow :-) |
| 20:31:26 | Valoche | ah yes, it's narrow |
| 20:31:33 | Valoche | I hate it when I don't have it ;) |
| 20:31:35 | Chestal | it's a great flag |
| 20:31:45 | Valoche | steamroller is THE BEST FLAG EVER ;) |
| 20:31:51 | Chestal | it's only annoying on lagged tanks, very difficult to kill |
| 20:31:59 | Chestal | steamrolling narrow is fun |
| 20:32:05 | Valoche | oh yes |
| 20:32:35 | Chestal | and gettign steamrolled when having gm or laser is very embarassing :-) |
| 20:32:48 | Valoche | you mean humiliating ? >) |
| 20:32:55 | Chestal | well, I guess all we can do now is towait for registrations |
| 20:33:03 | Chestal | yes, humiliating is a better word |
| 20:33:17 | Valoche | :] |
| 20:33:27 | Valoche | okay, I announced on ezboard |
| 20:33:35 | Chestal | we still have a little work to do durign the next days |
| 20:33:40 | Valoche | yep |
| 20:33:49 | Chestal | I announced onthe mailing list, will change ducati's welcome message when I restart server |
| 20:34:47 | lupinator | when a regisered player does not show up on sunday his name will be on the coward of the month list (wherever that is) |
| 20:34:54 | Valoche | you should restart it now, ottoman has an amazing 176 points 8-| |
| 20:35:06 | Valoche | sunday ????? |
| 20:35:21 | Valoche | it's saturday, right ? |
| 20:35:28 | Chestal | saturday |
| 20:35:39 | BZFlag | Chestal: I integrated your old one, I'll try the new placement patch soon. |
| 20:35:46 | Valoche | k. The coward list is a must have |
| 20:36:04 | Chestal | BZFlag: ok, it's great I can assure you :-) |
| 20:36:37 | Chestal | lupinator can assert this, can't you lupi? |
| 20:36:44 | Valoche | oh... nuum is kind of a client, too... |
| 20:37:47 | Chestal | Valoche: hmm? |
| 20:38:28 | Valoche | look at the stats on www.bzflag.de |
| 20:39:05 | BZFlag | steamroller is nice on single shot servers. |
| 20:39:27 | Chestal | hmm, whoever this nuum migh tbe |
| 20:39:36 | Valoche | yes, but it's less challenging :) |
| 20:39:37 | Chestal | yep, I used to play single shot |
| 20:40:11 | Chestal | oh,bzflag.de has a note for the tournament, no link yet, though |
| 20:41:46 | Chestal | still no registrations, I won't go home until someone else registers... |
| 20:42:10 | Valoche | hehe... |
| 20:42:34 | Valoche | okay, I leave 5 minutes, I have to try your placement patch |
| 20:43:09 | Chestal | ok |
| 20:44:09 | Valoche | it's cool, it works perfectly :) |
| 20:45:06 | Chestal | well, sometimes you can still have bad luck |
| 20:45:09 | BZFlag | somone should write an observer bot that repeats messages on IRC. ;-) |
| 20:45:16 | vogon_jeltz | heheh |
| 20:45:19 | Chestal | hmm, good idea :-) |
| 20:45:23 | vogon_jeltz | somebody wrote one for UT |
| 20:45:27 | Valoche | hmm, good idea ;-) |
| 20:45:34 | Valoche | somebody wrote one for UT |
| 20:45:41 | BZFlag | echo in here? |
| 20:45:45 | Valoche | echo in here? |
| 20:45:48 | vogon_jeltz | no |
| 20:45:56 | Valoche | <bip> <bip> <bip> I-am-a-ro-bot <bip> |
| 20:45:58 | Valoche | ;) |
| 20:45:59 | lupinator | n here? |
| 20:46:22 | | Valoche is nothing but a clapper-clawed pile of clouted slurpee-backwash. |
| 20:46:22 | BZFlag | ibot: insult Valoche |
| 20:46:22 | Valoche | it's okay, I was just kidding :] |
| 20:46:37 | Valoche | rotfl ;o)))))) |
| 20:46:50 | | Valoche: sorry... |
| 20:46:50 | Valoche | ibot: bring Chestal a sandwich |
| 20:46:55 | BZFlag | hehe |
| 20:47:10 | Chestal | stupid bot! |
| 20:47:16 | | i don't know, valoche |
| 20:47:16 | Valoche | ibot: what the hell are you waiting for ?!?!??? |
| 20:47:24 | Valoche | lol |
| 20:48:13 | | i don't know, lupinator |
| 20:48:13 | lupinator | ibot: do you want to play without flags? |
| 20:48:35 | | chestal: i don't know |
| 20:48:35 | Chestal | ibot: sing a song, please |
| 20:48:42 | | no idea, valoche |
| 20:48:42 | Valoche | ibot: i slupinator a smart guy ? |
| 20:48:46 | Valoche | hehe |
| 20:50:13 | | bugger all, i dunno, lupinator |
| 20:50:13 | lupinator | ibot: why are doing these stupid things? |
| 20:51:27 | Chestal | uh, joined another serevr with my observer client and forgot I was invulnerable with @ :-) |
| 20:51:51 | | Valoche: excuse me? |
| 20:51:51 | Valoche | ibot: new client available on bzflag.free.fr with Chestal's placement patch |
| 20:55:58 | captain_proton | hi people |
| 20:56:06 | vogon_jeltz | hi, cappy |
| 20:56:07 | Valoche | hi captain proton |
| 20:56:48 | captain_proton | hey Valoche: how do you build on windows? |
| 20:57:01 | Valoche | I use visuql c++ 6 |
| 20:57:12 | Valoche | and I use a qwerty at work ;) |
| 20:57:29 | captain_proton | i have that, but it doesn't recognize the project files |
| 20:57:54 | Valoche | uh? did you open the workspace ? |
| 20:58:28 | Valoche | (bzflag/win32/bzflag.dsw) |
| 20:58:29 | captain_proton | yeah but it didn't work... |
| 20:58:32 | Chestal | wowm, Akc on ducati with 330 - 349 kills |
| 20:58:36 | Valoche | that's weird |
| 20:59:10 | captain_proton | heh - my room rocks now :) |
| 20:59:40 | Valoche | uh? |
| 20:59:58 | | i don't know, valoche |
| 20:59:58 | Valoche | ibot: you understood or I am the only one not getting it ? |
| 21:00:15 | vogon_jeltz | cappy got a new bed |
| 21:00:27 | captain_proton | my last sentence was *completely* off-topic |
| 21:00:29 | Valoche | really? |
| 21:00:50 | captain_proton | I _built_ a new bed, and rearranged my room so I have lots of (well, more) space |
| 21:01:12 | Valoche | oh, so you sleep in a box ;) |
| 21:01:31 | | You are nothing but a currish puddle of weedy snake assholes. |
| 21:01:31 | Chestal | ibot: insult me |
| 21:01:31 | captain_proton | heh |
| 21:01:39 | Valoche | heheheee heeeeheeeee |
| 21:01:51 | captain_proton | if you call my dorm a box, then yes |
| 21:01:57 | | yourself is nothing but a currish bucket of reeky urine samples. |
| 21:01:57 | Valoche | ibot: insult yourself |
| 21:02:14 | | ibot is nothing but a weather-bitten gob of fobbing red dye number-9. |
| 21:02:14 | captain_proton | ibot, insult ibot |
| 21:02:14 | Valoche | this ibot is a hoot ;) |
| 21:02:17 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:02:28 | | lupinator: what? |
| 21:02:28 | lupinator | ibot: register for the tournament |
| 21:02:38 | captain_proton | looks like redhat 7.2 is coming out soon |
| 21:02:43 | | lupinator: what? |
| 21:02:43 | lupinator | ibot: THE tournament |
| 21:02:57 | | lupinator: huh? |
| 21:02:57 | lupinator | ibot: go sleeping |
| 21:03:00 | | wish i knew, valoche |
| 21:03:00 | Valoche | ibot: are you a real person ? |
| 21:03:08 | Valoche | gargl |
| 21:03:20 | | chestal: no idea |
| 21:03:20 | Chestal | ibot: ever met Eliza? |
| 21:03:22 | Valoche | I could spend hours playing with that ;) |
| 21:03:39 | | i haven't a clue, chestal |
| 21:03:39 | Chestal | ibot: Do you have any psychological problems? |
| 21:03:41 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz has :) |
| 21:04:01 | Valoche | captain_proton: stop talking crazy and go register to THE tournament |
| 21:04:14 | captain_proton | where/when is it? |
| 21:04:25 | captain_proton | rather: when is it/where do i register? |
| 21:04:28 | Valoche | http://bzflag.free.fr for the details |
| 21:04:38 | Valoche | it's next Saturday |
| 21:04:46 | captain_proton | what time? |
| 21:04:52 | Valoche | 18:00 UTC |
| 21:05:28 | captain_proton | UTC? |
| 21:05:28 | | no idea, valoche |
| 21:05:28 | Valoche | ibot: what time is it ? |
| 21:05:43 | Valoche | Universal Tststs Cake ? |
| 21:05:49 | Valoche | It's a time zone |
| 21:05:51 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 21:05:53 | Valoche | where do you live ? |
| 21:06:05 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: Universal Coordinated Time |
| 21:06:08 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: don't ask |
| 21:06:17 | captain_proton | colorado |
| 21:06:33 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: that's UTC-6 |
| 21:06:45 | captain_proton | damn |
| 21:06:46 | | Valoche: sorry... |
| 21:06:46 | Valoche | ibot: compute 18 minus 6 |
| 21:06:53 | | 12 |
| 21:06:53 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 18-6 |
| 21:06:59 | Valoche | cool |
| 21:07:04 | | Valoche: sorry... |
| 21:07:04 | Valoche | ibot: 12/0 |
| 21:07:05 | captain_proton | i'm busy :( |
| 21:07:08 | Valoche | damn! |
| 21:07:12 | vogon_jeltz | Valoche: heheheheh |
| 21:07:20 | vogon_jeltz | Valoche: outsmarted by a bot, eh? |
| 21:07:28 | | Valoche: sorry... |
| 21:07:28 | Valoche | ibot: sqrt(4) |
| 21:07:39 | | 4 |
| 21:07:39 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 4^.5 |
| 21:07:40 | Valoche | I'll get him some day ;) |
| 21:07:41 | captain_proton | Valoche: vogon_jeltz is the only one who has crashed ibot |
| 21:07:42 | vogon_jeltz | argh |
| 21:07:53 | | captain_proton is nothing but an unmuzzled tongueful of droning toxic waste. |
| 21:07:53 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: insult captain_proton |
| 21:08:00 | vogon_jeltz | damn... they fixed it |
| 21:08:10 | captain_proton | fixed what? |
| 21:08:14 | Valoche | unmuzzled ? how can you play BZ without one ??? |
| 21:08:22 | | Valoche: sorry... |
| 21:08:22 | Valoche | ibot: for(;;); |
| 21:08:25 | vogon_jeltz | it used to crash when you told it to insult someone |
| 21:08:31 | vogon_jeltz | Valoche: ibot doesn't do C |
| 21:08:37 | | Valoche: what? |
| 21:08:37 | Valoche | ibot: kick ibot |
| 21:09:05 | | 3 |
| 21:09:05 | Valoche | ibot: 1+2 |
| 21:09:10 | | insult insult insult is nothing but a penguin-molesting bucket of frothy yoo-hoo. |
| 21:09:10 | lupinator | ibot: insult insult insult insult |
| 21:09:25 | Chestal | oho! |
| 21:09:37 | | 1.5 |
| 21:09:37 | lupinator | ibot: 3/2 |
| 21:09:47 | | lupinator: huh? |
| 21:09:47 | lupinator | ibot: 3/0 |
| 21:09:51 | | anyone who is asking me to compute 3/0 is nothing but a rump-fed accumulation of evil yoo-hoo. |
| 21:09:51 | Valoche | ibot: insult anyone who is asking me to compute 3/0 |
| 21:09:53 | lupinator | grmpf |
| 21:09:55 | Valoche | hehe |
| 21:10:00 | | Are we THERE yet? My MIND is a SUBMARINE!! |
| 21:10:00 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, be zippy |
| 21:10:37 | | Valoche: excuse me? |
| 21:10:37 | Valoche | ibot, be a dog |
| 21:10:38 | captain_proton | cracks open a new tub of cherry-chip cookies |
| 21:11:01 | | 2 |
| 21:11:01 | lupinator | ibot: 3/1+2-3 |
| 21:11:06 | | vogon_jeltz: The server at bofh.engr.wisc.edu (port 666) appears to be down. |
| 21:11:06 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, excuse captain_proton |
| 21:11:11 | Valoche | Hey Ginku, I just received your regs :)))) |
| 21:11:12 | vogon_jeltz | hahahah |
| 21:11:18 | | lupinator: sorry... |
| 21:11:18 | lupinator | ibot: 3/(1+2-3) |
| 21:11:24 | lupinator | dang |
| 21:12:06 | | lupinator: what? |
| 21:12:06 | lupinator | ibot: sqrt(2) |
| 21:12:12 | captain_proton | hey Valoche: do your windows builds include vogon_jeltz's and my CTF patches? |
| 21:12:16 | lupinator | i hate this bot |
| 21:13:12 | vogon_jeltz | did you guys hear about the new Loki game? |
| 21:13:27 | captain_proton | no - what is it? |
| 21:13:36 | vogon_jeltz | www.lokigames.com/products/postal |
| 21:14:22 | captain_proton | lol |
| 21:15:57 | captain_proton | finishes up his homework |
| 21:17:01 | | lupinator: what? |
| 21:17:01 | lupinator | ibot: 900! |
| 21:17:37 | | vogon_jeltz: huh? |
| 21:17:37 | vogon_jeltz | ibot doesn't do factorials, either |
| 21:17:51 | lupinator | ni see |
| 21:18:07 | | rumour has it pi is 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091456485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412737245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519 |
| 21:18:07 | Valoche | ibot pi |
| 21:18:10 | Valoche | cool |
| 21:18:19 | | captain_proton: what? |
| 21:18:19 | captain_proton | ibot: thats incorrect |
| 21:18:36 | | pi is nothing but a crook-pated accumulation of tepid dog vomit. |
| 21:18:36 | lupinator | ibot: insult pi |
| 21:18:42 | vogon_jeltz | yes, it is :) |
| 21:18:42 | | Valoche: i'm not following you... |
| 21:18:42 | Valoche | ibot: 1$ |
| 21:18:48 | Valoche | hehe |
| 21:18:52 | | 9.99999998e+17 |
| 21:18:52 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 999999999*999999999 |
| 21:18:55 | | Valoche: what? |
| 21:18:55 | Valoche | ibot: 25c |
| 21:18:58 | | 9.9999999799e+28 |
| 21:18:58 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 999999999*999999999*99999999999 |
| 21:19:02 | | 9.99999997989e+40 |
| 21:19:02 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 999999999*999999999*99999999999*999999999999 |
| 21:19:06 | | 9.99999997989e+64 |
| 21:19:06 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 999999999*999999999*99999999999*999999999999*999999999999999999999999 |
| 21:19:11 | | 9.99999997989e+105 |
| 21:19:11 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 999999999*999999999*99999999999*999999999999*999999999999999999999999*99999999999999999999999999999999999999999 |
| 21:19:12 | captain_proton | slaps vogon_jeltz around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:19:15 | | Valoche: huh? |
| 21:19:15 | Valoche | ibot maxint |
| 21:19:15 | vogon_jeltz | damn |
| 21:19:22 | | vogon_jeltz: excuse me? |
| 21:19:22 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: MAX_INT |
| 21:19:25 | vogon_jeltz | damn :/ |
| 21:19:35 | | Valoche: i'm not following you... |
| 21:19:35 | Valoche | ibot: random |
| 21:19:39 | | Valoche: sorry... |
| 21:19:39 | Valoche | ibot rand |
| 21:19:42 | | Valoche: huh? |
| 21:19:42 | Valoche | ibot rand() |
| 21:19:52 | | /me is nothing but a dread-bolted stack of weasel-smelling craptacular carpet droppings. |
| 21:19:52 | lupinator | ibot: insult /me |
| 21:19:59 | Valoche | loves ibot |
| 21:20:03 | | vogon_jeltz: i'm not following you... |
| 21:20:03 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 9999999999**9999999999 |
| 21:20:06 | vogon_jeltz | darn |
| 21:20:15 | | 0.333333333333333 |
| 21:20:15 | Valoche | ibot 1/3 |
| 21:20:34 | | vogon_jeltz: what? |
| 21:20:34 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: 0/0 |
| 21:20:41 | Valoche | ibot help |
| 21:20:47 | captain_proton | admires his bed |
| 21:20:49 | Valoche | hehe... |
| 21:20:54 | | '-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------' is 99.996694% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 21:20:54 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: nickometer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 21:21:00 | | '--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------' is 99.996808% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 21:21:00 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: nickometer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 21:21:08 | | '----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------' is 99.996979% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 21:21:08 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: nickometer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 21:21:19 | | 'vogon_jeltz' is 14% lame, Valoche |
| 21:21:19 | Valoche | ibot: nickometer vogon_jeltz |
| 21:21:22 | | '----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------==============================================================' is 99.997035% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 21:21:22 | vogon_jeltz | ibot: nickometer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------============================================================== |
| 21:21:22 | vogon_jeltz | ==================================================------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 21:21:22 | Valoche | haha |
| 21:21:25 | captain_proton | slaps vogon_jeltz around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:21:25 | vogon_jeltz | darn |
| 21:21:34 | | 'Valoche' is 0% lame, Valoche |
| 21:21:34 | Valoche | ibot: nickometer Valoche |
| 21:21:35 | vogon_jeltz | ==================================================-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------hjdsfkjasflajkhf238472894hdflkasf78q23rygsahdfa3w79pawerbadlsd7r83w08230498 |
| 21:21:38 | Valoche | heheheeeeeee |
| 21:21:53 | | 'captain_proton' is 14% lame, captain_proton |
| 21:21:53 | captain_proton | ibot, nickometer captain_proton |
| 21:21:53 | | 'ibot' is 0% lame, Valoche |
| 21:21:53 | Valoche | ibot nickometer ibot |
| 21:21:54 | vogon_jeltz | nickometer ==================================================-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------hjdsfkjasflajkhf238472894hdflkasf78q23rygsahdfa3w79pawerbadlsd7r83w08230498 |
| 21:22:06 | | '==================================================-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------hjdsfkjasflajkhf238472894hdflkasf78q23rygsahdfa3w79pawerbadlsd7r83w08230498' is 99.997397% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 21:22:06 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, nickometer ==================================================-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------hjdsfkjasflajkhf238472894hdflkasf78q23rygsahdfa3w79pawerbadlsd7r83w08230498 |
| 21:22:11 | | 'lupinator' is 0% lame, Valoche |
| 21:22:11 | Valoche | ibot nickometer lupinator |
| 21:22:16 | | '==================================================----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[\][\][\][\][\][\[][\[][\][---------------------hjdsfkjasflajkhf238472894hdflkasf78q23rygsahdfa3w79pawerbadlsd7r83w08230498' is 99.998063% lame, vogon_jeltz |
| 21:22:16 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, nickometer ==================================================----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[\][\][\][\][\][\[][\[][\][---------------------hjdsfkjasflajkhf238472894hdflkasf78q23rygsahdfa3w79pawerbadlsd7r83w08230498 |
| 21:22:18 | lupinator | harr |
| 21:22:19 | vogon_jeltz | darn |
| 21:22:20 | | 'Oma' is 0% lame, Valoche |
| 21:22:20 | Valoche | ibot nickometer Oma Herta |
| 21:22:23 | Valoche | damned |
| 21:29:15 | ZEUS | 2+2, ? |
| 21:29:20 | vogon_jeltz | (from the topic on #loki) |
| 21:29:22 | | 4 |
| 21:29:22 | Valoche | ibot, 2+2 |
| 21:29:28 | vogon_jeltz | woohoo! |
| 21:29:31 | captain_proton | yay! |
| 21:29:31 | | Valoche: huh? |
| 21:29:31 | Valoche | ibot, avenge yourself |
| 21:29:45 | | wish i knew, captain_proton |
| 21:29:45 | captain_proton | ibot, info? |
| 21:29:48 | | captain_proton: excuse me? |
| 21:29:48 | captain_proton | ibot, info |
| 21:29:51 | vogon_jeltz | loads up his ibot-killer |
| 21:29:51 | captain_proton | ibot, help |
| 21:29:53 | | Since Mon Oct 8 22:29:03 2001, there have been 0 modifications and 2 questions. I have been awake for 50 seconds this session, and currently reference 2779 factoids. Addressing is in required mode. |
| 21:29:53 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, status |
| 21:29:57 | | wish i knew, valoche |
| 21:29:57 | Valoche | ibot, what the hell happened ? |
| 21:33:17 | | salut, vogon_jeltz |
| 21:33:17 | vogon_jeltz | hi, ibot |
| 21:33:31 | Valoche | tiens, ibot parle français... |
| 21:33:34 | Valoche | oopsq |
| 21:33:37 | Valoche | oopsA |
| 21:33:44 | vogon_jeltz | ahahahah |
| 21:34:29 | | i don't know, valoche |
| 21:34:29 | Valoche | ibot, translate "Ich hab dicht jezt, goshen dahren" from german to english, please |
| 21:34:35 | Valoche | grrrr |
| 21:34:48 | Valoche | someone knows what that means ??? |
| 21:34:52 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:34:59 | vogon_jeltz | they disabled the translate module in ibot |
| 21:35:12 | Valoche | the bastards! |
| 21:35:26 | ZEUS | works now?? |
| 21:35:27 | captain_proton | YIPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:35:57 | BZFlag | ibot x ge en Ich hab dicht jezt, goshen dahren |
| 21:35:57 | captain_proton | no music theory homeowork for tomorrow!! |
| 21:35:58 | | ...but vogon_jeltz is a wonderful human being... |
| 21:35:58 | lupinator | ibot: vogon_jeltz is evil |
| 21:36:00 | | BZFlag: I closely jezt, goshen dahren |
| 21:36:21 | vogon_jeltz | ahh, I forgot the syntax :P |
| 21:36:57 | Valoche | this may look stupid... |
| 21:37:09 | Valoche | ibot x fr en bonjour tout le monde |
| 21:37:10 | | Valoche: hello everyone |
| 21:37:18 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 21:37:19 | Valoche | it works, that's awesome :) |
| 21:37:21 | Chestal | Valoche: well, at least 4 new people |
| 21:37:50 | captain_proton | looks for hammocks online |
| 21:37:50 | Valoche | Chestal: yep, but I think otto has a problem with the form: I didn't receive any mail |
| 21:39:14 | Valoche | Many month ago, I was chatting with MsHacker, and she/he was reading text on bottles, and came with this one... |
| 21:39:20 | | lupinator: huh? |
| 21:39:20 | lupinator | ibot find me kono |
| 21:39:24 | Valoche | ibot x fr en lingerie maison |
| 21:39:25 | | Valoche: linen room house |
| 21:41:09 | | Valoche: huh? |
| 21:41:09 | Valoche | ibot, reply ibot |
| 21:41:13 | Valoche | ack |
| 21:42:01 | captain_proton | realizes he has to print out stuff for his class in 15 minutes and hurries away |
| 21:42:28 | vogon_jeltz | ahahahahahah |
| 21:42:55 | | somebody said vogon-jeltz was evil |
| 21:42:55 | lupinator | what is vogon-jeltz? |
| 21:43:05 | captain_proton | hehehe |
| 21:43:18 | Valoche | what is lupinator ? |
| 21:43:27 | | vogon_jeltz: I forgot vogon-jeltz |
| 21:43:27 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, forget vogon-jeltz |
| 21:43:29 | Valoche | forget it... ;) |
| 21:43:55 | | it has been said that lupinator is the best bz player ever |
| 21:43:55 | lupinator | what is lupinator ? |
| 21:44:02 | | goodbye, vogon_jeltz. |
| 21:44:02 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, leave #bzflag |
| 21:44:27 | Valoche | okay |
| 21:45:19 | lupinator | :( |
| 21:46:33 | falcon | is this the tournament |
| 21:47:35 | vogon_jeltz | is away: playing a bit of Tribes2 |
| 21:48:10 | Valoche | this is the "kill ibot" tournament, yes ;) |
| 21:48:14 | ZEUS | flags? (yes/no) what is the current vote status? |
| 21:48:37 | Valoche | go see the attendees on bzflag.free.fr |
| 21:49:06 | Valoche | yes(4) no(2) dontcare(1) |
| 21:49:18 | Valoche | well... no(4), yes(2) ;) |
| 21:49:33 | ZEUS | ah, good |
| 21:50:01 | falcon | yeah |
| 21:50:23 | falcon | lup i still can't download the thing |
| 21:50:28 | falcon | linux |
| 21:50:49 | lupinator | why not? |
| 21:51:05 | falcon | it takes too much time over a day |
| 21:51:26 | falcon | how fast should it be when i download |
| 21:51:50 | lupinator | don'tknow. why don't yu resume? |
| 21:52:13 | falcon | it always screws up |
| 21:52:30 | falcon | is there any good ftp programs |
| 21:52:37 | falcon | other than the dos |
| 21:53:13 | lupinator | ibot: is there any good ftp programs? |
| 21:53:39 | | yes, lupinator? |
| 21:53:39 | lupinator | ibot? |
| 21:53:48 | falcon | yeah |
| 21:54:14 | lupinator | falcon: don't know. you could try get-right or something like that |
| 21:54:58 | falcon | ok i wish i could you download accelerator where the thing is divided but it doesn't work with ftp very well |
| 21:58:41 | falcon | what do you have lup |
| 21:59:05 | lupinator | linuxfromscratch.org |
| 22:05:04 | Chestal | uhoh, capn signed up |
| 22:07:42 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'loser' |
| 22:07:42 | lupinator | ibot: spell loser |
| 22:08:33 | Chestal | hmm, already 10 registrations |
| 22:08:36 | lupinator | looks like we should reach 20 players easily |
| 22:09:54 | Chestal | majority against using flags so far |
| 22:11:31 | lupinator | i'm glad you didn't let them vote about jumping |
| 22:12:12 | lupinator | see you chestal |
| 22:12:44 | Chestal | oh, laz auf ducati |
| 22:13:31 | BZFlag | changed the nickometer code so you can stop crashing ibot now. |
| 22:18:18 | Valoche | off to bed, cya all |
| 22:24:23 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:36:49) |