| 03:22:39 | vogon_jeltz | hi, proton |
| 03:22:45 | vogon_jeltz | I see you're on the OC-3 now, eh? |
| 03:22:51 | captain_proton | yep |
| 03:22:57 | vogon_jeltz | lucky :) |
| 03:23:23 | captain_proton | up for a game of bzflag? i've got someone else who might want to play too... |
| 03:23:32 | vogon_jeltz | maybe |
| 03:23:35 | vogon_jeltz | :/ |
| 03:23:59 | captain_proton | first i'm gonna download some things :) |
| 03:24:09 | vogon_jeltz | heheheheheh |
| 03:25:18 | vogon_jeltz | lucky bastard |
| 03:25:40 | captain_proton | redhat chose ext3 for 7.2 |
| 03:26:06 | captain_proton | first i get staroffice... |
| 03:26:21 | vogon_jeltz | :( |
| 03:26:45 | vogon_jeltz | and, what, it'll take you about 4 or 5 minutes? |
| 03:26:51 | vogon_jeltz | if that? |
| 03:27:04 | captain_proton | probably... |
| 03:27:42 | captain_proton | damnit i forgot my zip code :P |
| 03:28:09 | vogon_jeltz | ooh... now it'll be another 5 seconds before it's done :) |
| 03:30:26 | captain_proton | hmmm...a 92 mb download in 1:45!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) |
| 03:38:10 | BZFlag | that's less that 1Mb/s |
| 03:39:14 | captain_proton | hi tim ;) |
| 03:39:53 | captain_proton | the lag is on the other side |
| 03:46:16 | captain_proton | guys want to play bz on my box? |
| 03:48:31 | captain_proton | if you guys want, its up |
| 04:01:51 | vogon_jeltz | would except for the crap framerates I get |
| 04:01:57 | vogon_jeltz | s/I get/he gets |
| 04:02:25 | vogon_jeltz | we need polygon culling! |
| 04:02:55 | vogon_jeltz | I get 56fps @ 1024x768x16 in UT, and only 30 at the same resolution on decks in BZFlag |
| 04:03:02 | vogon_jeltz | if that |
| 04:03:28 | captain_proton | come on...lets play |
| 04:03:32 | vogon_jeltz | k |
| 04:03:33 | vogon_jeltz | whatever |
| 04:04:26 | captain_proton | playing? |
| 04:26:32 | firegod | how do you show fps? |
| 04:26:40 | vogon_jeltz | hit the T key |
| 04:26:41 | captain_proton | press 't' |
| 04:26:50 | firegod | I'm getting :very: poor framerates at 640x480x16 window |
| 04:27:00 | firegod | right, t, i'll reboot and try that. |
| 04:27:46 | vogon_jeltz | hahah |
| 04:27:54 | vogon_jeltz | I was kicking your ass until I started sucking, proton |
| 04:28:20 | captain_proton | thats because i was sucking... |
| 04:29:27 | vogon_jeltz | I *really* need to figure out some way to create models for Unreal Tournament without installing Windoze or forking over cash |
| 05:25:59 | firegod | seems to bottom out at 30fps |
| 05:26:04 | firegod | up around 40fps |
| 05:26:47 | captain_proton | what card? |
| 05:31:26 | firegod | ati rage pro 128 m3 mobility |
| 05:31:36 | firegod | 17 with more options turned on |
| 05:31:48 | captain_proton | under linux? |
| 05:31:53 | firegod | nods |
| 05:31:56 | firegod | tibook |
| 05:32:12 | firegod | optimal command line? |
| 05:32:17 | captain_proton | are both your kernel & X configured for DRI? |
| 05:32:22 | firegod | no |
| 05:32:27 | firegod | it's a touchy issue |
| 05:32:44 | captain_proton | there's your problem |
| 05:32:49 | firegod | i've been told it may be worse, with only 8M ram |
| 05:33:20 | firegod | kernel 2.4.9-benh0 |
| 05:33:26 | firegod | XF 4.1.0 |
| 05:33:26 | captain_proton | i'd try it - build another kernel (don't replace your working one) and configure X |
| 05:33:29 | captain_proton | benh0???? |
| 05:33:41 | firegod | ppc branch |
| 05:33:52 | firegod | he's pretty close |
| 05:34:06 | captain_proton | oh you're on a ppc? ick |
| 05:34:14 | firegod | i love the 100% cpu usage |
| 05:34:23 | firegod | fries the battery nice like |
| 05:38:14 | vogon_jeltz | is back from trashing the almost 1700 messages in his inbox |
| 05:38:50 | captain_proton | fun |
| 05:39:00 | captain_proton | is playing go on yahoo |
| 21:18:05 | vogon_jeltz | proton: you here? |
| 21:31:55 | captain_proton | now i am |
| 21:32:21 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 21:32:30 | captain_proton | hi |
| 21:32:31 | vogon_jeltz | has been working on polygon culling for BZFlag |
| 21:32:53 | vogon_jeltz | unluckily, the renderer-related stuff is more of a spaghetti-logic pile of crap than the rest of the code |
| 21:33:02 | captain_proton | yup |
| 21:33:54 | vogon_jeltz | there's no way to insert polygon culling without breaking the stupid access things that C++ forces you to do |
| 21:34:59 | vogon_jeltz | wonders if Blender's worth the price of purchase for a C-Key |
| 21:36:07 | vogon_jeltz | loves that crazy UV wrapping stuff involved in making textured meshes |
| 21:37:06 | captain_proton | C-key?? |
| 21:37:34 | vogon_jeltz | it's a stupid license you have to purchase if you wish to export 3D models in 3D Studio Max format |
| 21:37:59 | vogon_jeltz | but it's gotta be cheaper than 3D Studio Max itself |
| 21:38:02 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 21:38:06 | captain_proton | why not just get 3ds max? :) |
| 21:38:12 | vogon_jeltz | how much does it cost? |
| 21:38:16 | captain_proton | too much |
| 21:38:23 | captain_proton | i didn't mean buy 3ds max |
| 21:39:04 | vogon_jeltz | then how am I going to get it ;) |
| 21:39:05 | vogon_jeltz | ? |
| 21:39:12 | vogon_jeltz | and don't say pirate it |
| 21:39:49 | captain_proton | download it ;) |
| 21:39:55 | vogon_jeltz | laf |
| 21:42:29 | vogon_jeltz | is away: napping |
| 22:11:42 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:29:13) |