IRC log for #bzchat on 20080529

00:01.03Erroneousnothing quite like telling a 14-year-old phd student to get "get a grip on your angst for a minute, please" :)
00:01.15spldartheh
00:01.55Winnyour board doesn't have a password on their routers
00:02.05Winnyso anyone from inside the network can (and has) gotten in
00:02.11Winnyyou'd figure they'd learn the first time?
00:02.17WinnyNaa, but for sure the second..
00:02.29Winnyoh, definetly the 3rd
00:04.05Erroneousheh, I set the passwords on our high school's switches, since they hadn't
00:04.28Winnyhehe
00:04.34spldartis guilty of that.. but not school... work lan
00:04.49Erroneous'twas nice to be able to switch vlans at will
00:04.53spldartswitches, routers.. and more
00:05.07Erroneousgot "how the hell did you do that" from the IT guys more than once
00:05.27Erroneousreset the root password on one of their linux boxen once too.  totally flabbergasted the guy.
00:05.33spldartLOL
00:06.12Erroneoushe started going off about how insecure that was, so I did it to the windows box next to him too
00:06.23spldartpwnt
00:06.25spldarthehe
00:07.43spldartwas tapping on keyboards when Franklin's, Apple II's and TRS-80 Model II's were the 'in' thing :-(
00:07.50Erroneousnoticed that he started locking the MDF room after that too
00:07.57spldarthaha
00:07.58Erroneouscan't imagine why ;)
00:08.03WinnyI bet he thinks you're magical
00:08.15spldartNothing beats physical access
00:08.17Erroneousnaw, I always explained what he could have done to stop me
00:08.29spldartFirst level of hacking... Social hacking.
00:08.31Erroneouslike in that case: physical access supercedes root access ;)
00:08.48Winnyspldart: I tried that once
00:09.00spldarttried? social hacking?
00:09.22Erroneoushe was also a little bit surprised when I turned over the passwords to two domain admin accounts he didn't know about the day I graduated too
00:09.44spldartOMG! I like you ;-)
00:09.47WinnyI sent an email from some gmail account I made to one of my friends saying "YOUR FACEBOOK ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED PLEASE RESPOND WITH PASSWORD"
00:10.03Erroneousone I had created as a backdoor and one I had seized from another guy who had done the same thing before me, before I fixed the hole
00:10.20Winnyhe did.. I sent back "You really need to be more careful"
00:10.56Erroneousiirc he said something like "man, I'm glad you aren't a douchebag"
00:11.12spldartMan.. Hacking for me was using a hex editor and a proggie called 'sector nibbler' was the pinnacle
00:11.13Winnywonders if anyone in here knows how to code a lego RCX bot with assembly
00:11.39Winnyneed to acess the color information from the light sensor, it only provides a binary state
00:11.52spldartNot I! Said the fly.
00:12.28Winny:(
00:12.39Erroneousit's nice to work with IT guys who aren't morons, for once.  our guy here is awesome.
00:13.09spldartYour lucky... I got drafted into IT services in my last two E-tech jobs.
00:13.34Erroneousmy first two regular paid jobs were IT
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00:14.44ErroneousI legitimately ran the high school's IT system the summer between my junior and senior years, since the guy had taken the summer off
00:15.07Erroneousgot paid for it, got to wear a belt radio, and everything :P
00:15.20spldartMan.. You were hooked up :)
00:15.51Erroneousheh, that's after I'd been routinely pwning the guy for like two years.  I think he figured if I was gonna do anything stupid I already would have...
00:17.11Erroneousand my AP US History teacher, who I knew quite well, and totally aced the exam for, was acting principal, which helped
00:18.40Erroneoushe had a habit of adjusting the last-semester class grades based on your AP test score.  So I figured what the heck, I'm not gonna do anything I don't have to...got a C- in the class, got a 5 on the AP exam, and he raised it to an A :)
00:20.11Winny"got to wear a belt radio, and everything :P" ... I keep invisioning some guy going "WHAT? a hard drive failure in lab 27? I'm on it! *superman pose*"
00:20.20AHAlol
00:20.35spldartLOL
00:20.56Erroneousactually yeah, it was a lot like that :P  and it is AMAZING how differently students treat you when you have a radio.
00:21.01spldartzzzzzZZZZZZZ... clack......zzzzzZZZZZZZ... clack......zzzzzZZZZZZZ... clack......zzzzzZZZZZZZ... clack......
00:21.02AHAhaha
00:21.15Erroneous'cause you look like a hall monitor or something :)
00:21.32Winnywow, those are real? I thought hall monitors were only in movies
00:21.40spldartpoints at Erroneous..." Your 'The Man'!
00:22.02ErroneousWinny: who else cracks down on the dudes dealing pot behind the staircases?
00:22.12WinnyI go to a nice school :P
00:22.21Erroneousso did I :P
00:22.27spldartYeah.. they deal X at his school
00:22.34Winnywe have like, 2 drug users
00:22.36spldartRave anyone?
00:23.09spldartC'mon everyone.. point your Bimmer and Mercedez headlights into the center and play your stereo's real loud!
00:23.34spldartI went to the same H.S. that Farrah Faucet went too.. <sp>?>
00:24.01Erroneouswe had no hard drug users that I was aware of.  It's a very rural environment though, and the marijuana-growing capital of the US (at least according to the IRS)
00:24.18Winnyyeah, we're in the middle of nowhere too
00:24.52Winnymore people go to the school then live in the town where it's located
00:24.56Erroneoussee, the difference between where I went, and the rough places, was that we had law-abiding, tax-paying, drug dealers ;)
00:24.57AHAthe guy who made the wayback machine went to my school
00:25.23Think_Differentlthe former CEO of AOL went to my school :E
00:25.30WinnyAHA: http://twit.tv/144
00:25.36Winnyjust came out on Monday
00:25.46Erroneousthe only weapons I ever saw at school were the deer rifles people left in their truck racks accidentally
00:26.07Think_Differentlwe have M4s at my school
00:26.12Erroneousand honestly nobody really cared about those
00:26.44spldartTx had that problem back in the day too
00:27.00spldartOops.. my dad's 30-06 is still in the truck 8-0
00:27.00Erroneousheh, I guess I did see one fight where a guy pulled a knife.  he was laughed at forever for not being enough of a man to fight with his fists...
00:27.12spldartWow
00:28.36Erroneous'course I carried a pocketknife with me all the time.  had a deal with a teacher where if anyone gave me any trouble about it, I'd say I'd borrowed it from him and hadn't returned it yet. never had to.
00:28.48Erroneousit's a tool dammit, not a weapon
00:30.08ErroneousI suppose the same thing wouldn't fly these days
00:30.27Winnyit really doesn't
00:30.50WinnyI left a 6 inch hunting knife in my back by accident... infact, crap, brb...
00:30.50ErroneousI hate the atmosphere of fear here since 9/11.  Especially because that means that the terrorists got what they wanted.
00:31.41Winnyyeah, never took it out, whoops :P
00:32.10me1Winny, in your back?
00:32.17Winnybackpack
00:32.24me1OH
00:33.42spldartMindset in general has changed alot
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02:19.16F687sis hating the fact that the Finder will not allow you to manipulate files that you do not have ownership of. (such as in the /System directory)
02:21.46blast007that's why Windows 98 is better.  there's no file security at all! yay!
02:23.19Metslol
02:29.42spldartyay for win 98se. It pwnz me
02:30.50blast007I need to get a hoard of Windows 95/98 machines set up with networking in both Windows and DOS so I can enjoy my old games  ;)
02:31.05blast007Descent II rocked
02:31.32blast007used to play it over Kahn online (Kahn allowed you to play IPX games over TCP/IP)
02:31.38blast007and it worked pretty well
02:35.38spldartI've really got to get 98 installed on this extra pIII 450 machine. So I can play duke 3d and my old Star Trek games
02:36.00blast007:)
02:36.11spldartSince I haven't got them to work right in dosbox or wine
02:36.31blast007yeah, I have that issue with Descent II
02:36.38blast007the mouse isn't responsive enough
02:36.55spldartGod.. I first started serving bzflag 1.7 and 2.0 on win 98... Along with apache and winroute pro
02:37.02spldartooOOoo.. descent!
02:37.10blast007even when I use VDMSound, it's too slow
02:37.30blast007but on a real DOS computer, at least with a PS2 mouse, the response is fast enough
02:38.35spldartMan.. I had Descent I running on a P 83 overdrive in a 486 board WAY back in teh day 8-0
02:38.44blast007hehe
02:38.54blast007it was on my 133MHz for me  :)
02:38.55spldartThe memories@!
02:38.57blast007the second descent
02:39.05blast007I didn't play the first one until years later
02:39.20blast007and I have a 3 level demo of the third one
02:39.24blast007came with a sound card iirc
02:39.40spldartshweeet
02:40.05blast007I'm sad that a lot of the utilities for for Descent and Descent II aren't up on the web anymore
02:40.12spldartFunny
02:40.13blast007or they've been replaced with Windows based tools
02:40.21spldartI was just thinking that about the drives for 98
02:40.22blast007I had a TON of DOS tools
02:40.30spldartmeh
02:40.33spldartdrivers
02:40.40blast007stuff to convert the videos to an EXE, for example
02:40.49spldartreally?
02:40.51blast007or to edit your save files and give yourself more ammo
02:40.53spldarthrm
02:41.05blast007yeah, it was crazy
02:41.13spldartmmMMmm cheat cod.... I mean.. Game resources ;-)
02:41.19blast007;)
02:41.33spldartdnstuff, dnkroz
02:41.43blast007ever play the first star wars jedi knight game?
02:41.49spldartnopers
02:41.52blast007that one had things called 'cogs'
02:41.58blast007basically it was mods for the game
02:42.14blast007but they worked in online and network games too... bad decision  :P
02:42.24spldarthah
02:42.33blast007they had some where you could build or remove objects
02:42.47blast007so I deleted all the elevators in the level, and then built myself a house
02:42.56spldarthahaha
02:43.01spldart<PROTECTED>
02:43.07spldartNice
02:43.09blast007yeah, good times  :)
02:43.15spldartSo many of those
02:43.32blast007I recently found an archive page of the cogs
02:43.38blast007so I downloaded them all
02:44.20spldartpoop.. now I'm regretting, on slightly, already having a compy project lined up for next weekend :)
02:44.28spldarts/on/only
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03:03.16short_circuitGives you wings!
03:03.41Mets:p
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04:32.02*** topic/#bzchat is Welcome to BZChat; the place to talk about your favorite tank game BZFLAG || http://bzflag.org || Forums http://my.bzflag.org/bb || http://my.bzflag.org/w/MapMaking || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/GettingHelp || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Download || non bzflag chat yields to bzflag chat yields to bzflag help. be kind and civil.
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05:42.02NightMarelol
05:44.35AAA_awrightNightMare gah stop confusing me with KnightMare
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06:29.18NightMareWhy am I confusing you with him?
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06:30.24AAA_awrightpersonal experience
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21:51.01Metswow somebody is putting on a play on unix hackers
21:51.09MetsThe Life and Death of Richard the Second
21:51.15Metsas performed through bzadmin
21:51.47Metsnot sure if I should ban then or clap :p
22:14.52WinnyMets, 'tis coogle
22:40.57F687sI was hoping Coogle would get bored and leave...
22:41.09MetsWinny: coolge and nightmare, I banned both of them
22:41.26Metsthat was like an hour ago though, I went to get dinner :p
22:42.13Metsit was pretty well done though, he had about 8 bzadmin clients with all the characters saying their lines in sync
22:43.13F687s(this is what happens to people who cannot make it into Broadway ;-)
22:43.21Metslol
22:43.44Metsmaybe they were trying to promote a new service
22:43.59Winnysmarten up all those noobs?
22:44.05Metsbzplays by coogle and nightmare
22:45.06Metslol
22:45.44Metsyes, how to dodge geno by william shakespeare
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23:00.39Atlashey - tank52 or zongo visit these parts ever?
23:00.55NightMareI just saw tank52
23:00.56NightMarewhy
23:01.03Atlasi need to contest him
23:01.10Atlascuase me and bart or at a tie area
23:01.20Atlasmight come down to zelo
23:01.34NightMareHmm ok
23:01.57Atlasill check theplayer stats page
23:02.23Atlaseh found him
23:02.29Atlasnot sure if i can talk on that server though
23:03.45NightMareWhat server?
23:04.06Atlasguleage
23:04.08Atlasn5158
23:04.16Atlasjsut connected but an not talk there
23:12.13NightMareAnyone here good with running servers?
23:13.31Atlascan anyone ehre connect bzf.guleague.org 5158 and ask tank52 if he has time to play me?
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23:40.02AHADoes anyone have Microsoft Office 2007?
23:41.57SpazzyMcGeeyeah
23:42.02SpazzyMcGeeFor mac though
23:42.30SpazzyMcGeeIt hogs resources.
23:42.50AHAheh
23:43.01AHAcan i email you my science powerpoint project?
23:43.12SpazzyMcGeesure
23:43.13AHAthe compatability pack didn't seem to work
23:43.29AHAand then can you save it as a 2003 project, and send it back? :D
23:43.48spldart6th day on my 3 day shipping and my newegg still hasn't shown up.
23:43.50SpazzyMcGeeok, I'll try
23:44.03SpazzyMcGeeIs it big?
23:45.16AHAno
23:45.54AHAspldart, call or email them
23:46.05AHAalthough it probably is a UPS problem, not a newegg problem
23:46.51MetsAHA: did you try the Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack for Word, Excel, and PowerPoint 2007 File Formats
23:47.00AHA[07:43:14] <08AHA> the compatability pack didn't seem to work
23:47.01AHAyes
23:47.03AHA:)
23:47.12Metsoh sorry :)
23:47.16AHAits okay
23:47.18Metsdidn't sroll up
23:48.16Metslast time i had to do it, office 2003 just converted it automatically
23:48.35Metsbut who knows
23:48.54spldartAHA: I'm sure it is
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23:54.10NightMareAnyone here good with servers?
23:54.39spldartNot I said the fly
23:59.18Winnynot me said the flea

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