IRC log for #brlcad on 20141211

00:18.26Notify02GCI:Melange * 5042004748664832 Reproduce any 5 unconfirmed open bug reports: Task Reopened - Melange has detected that the final deadline has passed and it has reopened the task.
00:21.28Notify03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 63670 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp Property Changed: and 3 others): merge changes from brep-debug r63072; fixes a bug in the point-curve intersection routine
00:30.17Notify02GCI:Melange * 5561255020462080 Design a new website landing page for BRL-CAD #4: No more Work can be submitted - Melange has detected that the deadline has passed and no more work can be...
00:38.39Notify03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 63671 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp Property Changed: and 3 others): merge changes from brep-debug r63073,r63122; rewrites get_subcurves_inside_faces() to perform intersections in 3d, and improves in/out tests used by the routine
00:39.07Notify02GCI:o7p9bxbnyj * 5554693182849024 Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test for axis.c: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
00:41.52Notify03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 63672 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp and 4 others): merge changes from brep-debug r63069,r63160; improvements to face splitting
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02:03.23Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 63673 brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/chull3d.c: Start moving towards a more libbn-ish I/O scheme. For the moment retain the OFF output for sanity checking.
02:03.25starseekerok guys - regress-repository should pass again
02:10.39Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 63674 brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/chull3d.c: clear out unnecessary code
02:19.22Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 63675 brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/chull3d.c: don't need the vd option.
02:31.03Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 63676 brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/chull3d.c: Use some loops to simplify the code further. An initial test looks like the faces of the chull are not all oriented out - will need to devise a way to ensure that...
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02:58.20Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 63677 brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/chull3d.c: Start working on a way to get the faces oriented correctly
02:59.51andromeda-galaxyhas anyone found a nice way to integrate screen+irssi with emacs?
03:01.03maths22andromeda-galaxy: use irssi proxy
03:01.40andromed`mahts22: I considered that...
03:02.13andromed`maths22: I just found out thata erc doesn't properly deal with color escapes, so I was wondering about actually using irssi as the client...
03:02.33andromeda-galaxymaths22: sorry for all the different nicks, still working on getting irssiproxy set up
03:02.36maths22Then what sort of integration are you looking for?
03:02.42maths22andromeda-galaxy: it's fine
03:03.14andromeda-galaxyactually, maybe what I was thinking of is more on the lines of Xmonad integration with the irssi-running terminal so that I can get it up quickly...
03:03.30andromeda-galaxyI'll probably try out erc with the irssiproxy stuff at least one more time as well
03:03.58Notify02GCI:sli908 * 4824199776436224 Fix any failing unit test #6: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
03:04.07andromeda-galaxyalso, what do you think of reimplimenting gmtime as bu_gmtime() that takes an int64 instead of a time_t?
03:04.09maths22andromeda-galaxy: you can also have two irssis if it is somehow helpful
03:04.18maths22ONe as a proxy, and one as a client
03:04.23maths22only one is in screen then
03:04.34maths22I'm not familiar enough with bu_gmtime() to know
03:04.44maths22starseeker or brlcad should
03:04.56andromeda-galaxygmtime() is the system call that bu_utctime() uses to get the struct tm with the time members
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03:05.31andromeda-galaxybut since gmtime() is defined to take a time_t, it fails on 32bit systems even though bu_utctime() takes an int64
03:08.13andromeda-galaxymaths22: various parts of brl-cad include code based on stuff from the bsd kernel, right?
03:09.39Notify02GCI:mexicankid * 4639899508539392 Write manual page documentation (for g-jack): Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
03:09.56StragusWhat's the problem with bu_utctime()? It won't fail just because the parameter is 64 bits... not before 2038 anyhow
03:10.41andromeda-galaxywell, the tests, at least, are very forward-loooking
03:10.54andromeda-galaxytwo of the fail because they use post-2038 dates (on 32bit systems)
03:11.40Notify02GCI:brlcad * 6353662997692416 Design a BRL-CAD splash screen #3: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to...
03:12.46StragusGot it, it's some test that's failing. This is a generally issue with a bunch of POSIX time functions
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03:14.25Notify02GCI:brlcad * 6353662997692416 Design a BRL-CAD splash screen #3: artistic appeal -  Mukul,  Your designs are interesting, but rather generic in nature. Plus it looks like you have not put the...
03:14.46andromeda-galaxyright...
03:15.20andromeda-galaxythe best way to fix the test (and ensure that post-2038 things work) as far as I can tell would be to reimplement gmtime() as bu_gmtime()
03:15.43andromeda-galaxyunfortumately, I can't find too much description of the algorithm...
03:16.06Notify02GCI:brlcad * 6648047639461888 Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #10: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to satisfy...
03:16.49StragusIt has been done before: http://www.2038bug.com/developers.html
03:18.51StragusIt could also just refuse to build/run when time_t == 32 bits when the date is getting too close to 2038. Either way, that's a little too forward-looking for me :)
03:19.30Notify02GCI:brlcad * 6648047639461888 Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #10: gorgeous but... -  Gorgeous tiger, but what does it and diamonds have to do with BRL-CAD? :)  Please create a sticker design that...
03:20.16andromeda-galaxyStragus: interesting... it looks like it gets quite complex when it tries to handle leap seconds &c.
03:20.30StragusYes, time is a little messy
03:20.56Notify02GCI:brlcad * 6068206720516096 Design a BRL-CAD business card #2: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to...
03:22.08andromeda-galaxyah well...
03:24.36Notify02GCI:brlcad * 6068206720516096 Design a BRL-CAD business card #2: misunderstood -  Aditya, I believe you misunderstood my comment regarding the logo on the back. I said the *logo* was not centered...
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03:30.18Notify02GCI:brlcad * 6423086379302912 Write manual page documentation (for g-dot): good start -  This is a really good start and you seem to have all of the requisite sections. However, your documentation...
03:30.58Notify02GCI:brlcad * 5818109499801600 Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #14: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to satisfy...
03:39.30Notify02GCI:brlcad * 5818109499801600 Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #14: some technical issues -  Luko, thank you for your efforts! Here are some other technical issues I notice at a glance:   the oval is not...
03:40.44Notify02GCI:brlcad * 5818109499801600 Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #14: not in jest -  Just wanted to clarify that the last point about the moose was not in jest! We'll be adding several tasks for people to...
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03:51.07Notify02GCI:brlcad * 5330706074959872 Create an ISST screenshot or animation: farthest anyone has gotten! -  Jatin,  So believe it or not, that is the farthest anyone has gotten towards making an ISST...
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03:57.13Notify02GCI:mihaineacsu29 * 6356614713966592 Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #11: None -  Hi Martin!  That's nice and clean, I like the subtle shadows. However, I think there is room for improvement here. It's...
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03:57.19maths22starseeker: It works for me as well with my own compile of cmake
03:57.33Notify02GCI:brlcad * 6424327624851456 Animate our logo! #2: bouncing -  VeskoD,  Bouncing our logo around a box is not what we had in mind. As the task description says, we're looking for something we can...
03:59.38Notify02GCI:brlcad * 5342724534304768 Create a logo press kit #2: Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
04:01.55andromeda-galaxyq
04:02.30Notify02GCI:mihaineacsu29 * 4938019295461376 Design a new website favicon! #10 http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/4938019295461376:   None   That's an interesting idea! Try and add...
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04:07.11ofnlut_hello are any mentors available?
04:08.02StragusJust ask your question directly, someone will see it and reply (eventually)
04:11.33maths22Stragus: fun way to respond:
04:11.36maths22~ask
04:11.36infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
04:11.42ofnlut_I Want to know hat will I have to do in order to fix the errors when compiling brlcad in Dev-C++
04:11.57ofnlut_I am trying to complete the follow up task
04:12.06maths22ofnlut_: could you provide a link to the first task?
04:12.44ofnlut_https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/6680593089691648
04:13.06Notify02GCI:brlcad * 5342724534304768 Create a logo press kit #2: ironically -  Ironically, the 16x16 version is one of the better looking favicons thus far.  Closed due to the level of effort, but I...
04:14.21Notify02GCI:mihaineacsu29 * 6101246763073536 Create a book layout for Doc Camp Book #3 http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/6101246763073536:   None   Fantastic work, Kristina! It...
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04:18.02Notify02GCI:brlcad * 5793865080504320 Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using Cygwin: excellent -  Moretti, that's excellent progress -- I think the most anyone has gotten with cygwin this year thus far. Since...
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04:34.59andromeda-galaxy?
04:35.14andromeda-galaxysorry, mistaken keybinding
04:37.09ignacio|sleepgood night:)
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05:00.25Notify02GCI:deepakkumarsharma * 4824199776436224 Fix any failing unit test #6: Task Assigned - This task has been assigned to sli908. You have 100 hours to complete this task, good luck!
05:20.53starseekerandromeda-galaxy: if you want to try integrating something like http://2038bug.com/index.php/articles/43-code/62-a-version-of-gmtime-that-works-around-the-2038-bug it might be interesting
05:21.26andromeda-galaxystarseeker: interesting...
05:22.19starseekerhttps://github.com/schwern/y2038/wiki
05:23.41andromeda-galaxystarseeker: given the equation at http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap04.html#tag_04_15, getting seconds, minutes, hours, and days shouldn't be to hard...
05:24.19starseekerI suppose it boils down to whether we regard this as our problem to solve or the operating system's
05:24.28starseekerbrlcad: opinion?
05:25.17starseekerandromeda-galaxy: if the work here is getting used in perl, that might be a good sign:  https://github.com/schwern/y2038
05:25.28StragusI would say worry about it in 2034, but eh :)
05:27.24andromeda-galaxystarseeker: true...
05:29.29starseekerandromeda-galaxy: maybe try the schwern version under a bu_gmtime function call to see how it does?
05:29.57andromeda-galaxystarseeker sounds like a good idea... I'll probably do that in the morning tomorrow
05:30.06starseekernods
05:30.17starseekerhopefully the regression tests are good now
05:30.27andromeda-galaxyis the MIT license compatible?
05:30.36andromeda-galaxyi.e. is this something that would go in src/other/?
05:30.37starseekeryes - that's about as good as it gets
05:30.42starseekerit can go in libbu
05:31.32andromeda-galaxysounds good! we don't currently seem to need more than gmtime, it might be worth trying out copying just gmtime64 into the bu_date-time.c file and building with that
05:31.43starseekernods
05:31.50starseekerthat makes sense
05:32.13starseekerjust make sure you add the info about the MIT license and copyright
05:32.37starseekerwonders if you'll find that the gmtime64 function needs other pieces to work...
05:32.56andromeda-galaxydoes it work to just put the copyright and license in the doxygen comment for that function, or does it need to go other places to?
05:33.06starseekerthat should be fine
05:33.42andromeda-galaxySomething like ``Copyright <copyright> under the MIT license, originally from https://github.com/schwern/y2038/blob/master/time64.c?
05:33.57starseekerwould put the license itself
05:34.02starseekerMIT is pretty short
05:34.32andromeda-galaxymakes sense, it's short and in there anyway... Basically, I'll keep most of the header comment from time64.c and add a little bit about where it's from
05:34.36starseekerif it's a longer one, it goes in doc/legal and can be referenced tehre
05:35.32starseekerbut generally code doesn't go directly in BRL-CAD libs as an integrated component unless it's MIT, 2/3 clause BSD, or something along those lines
05:36.01andromeda-galaxyright... that makes sense... I'll try that out tomorrow with the gmtime stuff and use the VM as a 32bit build environment
05:36.11starseekernice
05:36.26starseekerby the way, have you looked at that last failing test?
05:36.51starseekerbeing down to n=1 is rather tantelizing :-)
05:36.54andromeda-galaxynot yet... I think it's similar to some of the others, with CMake skipping an argument; I can probably do it pretty quickly in the morning
05:37.07andromeda-galaxythe gmtime stuff should fix two more tests that fail on 32 but not 64bit
05:37.19starseekernods
05:37.30starseekerif we get down to zero, can add make check to the distcheck process
05:37.32andromeda-galaxyif/when we  get the buildbot instance working nicely, it would be nice to do both 32 and 64bit builds at least
05:37.48andromeda-galaxytrue... that would be nice, well, I'll be looking into both tomorrow then.
05:37.54starseekernods - maths22 really rocked that :-)
05:38.15andromeda-galaxyindeed.  all the buildslaves seem to be offline now though...
05:38.36starseekeryeah - there's a lot of setup to get that really situated properly
05:39.24starseekerprobably virtualbox/qemu vm machines (although I don't know how many of those can be run on bz as build slaves without causing trouble...)
05:39.41andromeda-galaxytrue :-)
05:40.06starseekerthe possible set of test platforms is very large
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05:40.32andromeda-galaxyespecially given the fact that BRL-CAD still nominally has support for some pretty old platforms... I think I saw a #define about VAX the other day
05:40.40starseekerOK, sleep - should be able to get chull3d working tomorrow if I can think straight
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05:40.47starseekerheh
05:40.57starseekerandromeda-galaxy: nice work!
05:41.01andromeda-galaxystarseeker: that would be great! I should probably leave now too...
05:41.03andromeda-galaxythanks!
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06:41.05andromeda-galaxyandrei_: just curious, on http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5554693182849024 is there anything specific you think that I would need to talk to someone else about for it to be applicable?
06:45.16andrei_you said that if  the graph input changes
06:45.19andrei_the test fail
06:45.42andrei_I meant starseeker or brlcad think there s a better approach than diffing binaries
06:45.52andrei_if*
06:46.16andrei_t if the logic is changed to draw the graph in a different way (i.e. drawing segments in a different order) it wouldn't work.  
06:46.17andrei_this
06:47.04andrei_I ve said that you could research that for your curiosity, it has nothing to do with a task
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07:25.56winghouchanAwhh, there aren't any more front-end development tasks left that I haven't completed :(
07:26.18winghouchanAnyone know when more will be posted. It's my speciality ;)
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07:27.19winghouchanTbh, I wouldn't mind continuing with the front-end development of a concept site, even if it's not a task
07:27.50winghouchanThis is such a nice project I'd like to see it till the end
07:28.06winghouchanPlus, I don't like leaving things unfinished xP
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11:00.33martinhermidaMy task has been marked as "needs more work", so could you extend the time a little, please?
11:00.36martinhermidahttp://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/6356614713966592
11:02.16andrei_Hey, martinhermida
11:02.17andrei_of course
11:02.46andrei_martinhermida:  here :)
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11:12.57martinhermidaandrei_: thanks ;)
11:13.28andrei_martinhermida: no worrie! Also, don't be afraid/hesitant to ask any questions  here :)
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12:46.54starseekeris amused to see another awesome nethack quote: "I consider the fact that I have ascended a wishless Tourist more of an accomplishment than my bachelor's degree."
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12:58.31mandarjI am doing the 'Doxygen cleanup' task for GCI (for LIBWDB)
12:59.13mandarjWhen I was going through the code, I say that many of the code blocks are not Doxygen comments at all
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13:00.05mandarjAm I supposed to convert them to Doxygen comment blocks or do I have to just cleanup the pre-existing ones?
13:00.23starseekermandarj: in the header files, I would convert them to doxygen
13:00.40mandarjstarseeker: not in the .c files?
13:00.47mandarj(many of them are pretty long)
13:01.09starseekercheck with those doing the GCI task review
13:01.24mandarjwho?
13:01.27starseekerat least some of the C file comments probably belong in headers
13:01.36starseekerpost a question on the GCI task page
13:02.20starseekermandarj: as a rule of thumb - if the comment looks like it is describing functionality, what inputs and outputs mean, etc. and the function is part of public API it should be doxygen
13:02.47starseekerif it's an internal note for other programmers explaining what's going on in an algorithm, that's not so critical
13:03.15starseekerthe priority is to make it easier to use the libraries, which means documenting the public API
13:03.42starseekerhas to head out, bbl
13:06.29mandarjstarseeker: thanks!
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13:28.34mandarjI am doing the 'Doxygen cleanup for LIBWDB task'
13:28.53mandarjhow do I make out if a function is part of a public API?
13:33.29mandarj?
13:34.54mandarjstarseeker: are you there
13:34.54mandarj?
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16:11.32MarcTannoushello
16:11.54adityagulatihi
16:12.56MarcTannousdid nayone commit some unit test fixes or global variable removals recently?
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16:15.49andromeda-galaxyMarcTannous: I believe I've committed some of mine... I'm going to try to fix those date-time-t tests right now
16:16.24MarcTannousthe 32/64 bit achine was the problem?
16:16.29MarcTannousmachine*
16:17.36Notify02GCI:shardulc * 6423086379302912 Write manual page documentation (for g-dot): None -  Sorry, meant to say "and *not* the patch with the single change."
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16:19.29andromeda-galaxyMarcTannous: that one
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16:20.15andromeda-galaxyas for global variable removals, I'm not in progress on any but not all of them have been committed... You can see which ones other people have done by using search on the Melange completed tasks page
16:20.38MarcTannous<PROTECTED>
16:20.54MarcTannousnope, you submitted 2 I submitted one
16:21.49brlcadneat, http://evil-icons.io/
16:22.11MarcTannousbrlcad: regarding those icons I submitted yesterday
16:22.19MarcTannouswith the 16,32,64,128,256,1024,2048 options
16:22.25brlcadyes
16:22.33MarcTannouswant me to re-do them and just upload it to a cloud and post the link here instead of claiming a new task?
16:23.02brlcadno, if you spend the effort to re-do them, please do claim a task and get credit for it
16:23.24MarcTannousalso, is there any way I can see what unit tests/global variables have already been removed and not commited
16:23.25brlcadI would even suggest just uploading one size and getting feedback before doing the whole set
16:23.27andromeda-galaxybrlcad: did you see my earlier question about how to compare the plot3 outputs from tp_3axis?
16:23.32MarcTannousexcept for downloading every single diff file ?
16:24.36brlcadMarcTannous: manually, sure -- find a global and then search completed tasks to see if anyone finished that one
16:24.42YashM_brlcad, that's like http://fontawesome.io/
16:24.43andromeda-galaxybrlcad: I want to commit that one, but not before I'm sure binary diffing the files is the best way to do that...
16:24.49brlcador just ask, someone might know
16:25.06brlcadandromeda-galaxy: no, I haven't gone through the backlog yet
16:25.22MarcTannousyashM_: fontawesome has some issues though
16:25.42YashM_like?
16:25.48MarcTannousI mean you pretty much have to use the whole file for one icon
16:25.56MarcTannousevil-icons offers an alternative
16:26.03andromeda-galaxybrlcad: sure... please let me know if you see a better way to do it when you do get there...
16:26.38brlcadYashM_: yep, just like them
16:26.57MarcTannousevil-icons offers .ai files though, that's great
16:27.03brlcadMarcTannous: why is that?  not separate css?
16:27.36brlcadandromeda-galaxy: can if you resummarize briefly, I might be able to just answer it here ;)
16:27.37MarcTannousbrlcad: if you have a small scale project, and let's say you want to use 3 icons from the plentitude fontawesome has to offer, you have to use the whole file
16:27.38YashM_fontawesome has a font on desktop
16:27.53YashM_which means its vector too you just have to install the font and then you have the whole set of icons
16:30.17andromeda-galaxybrlcad: I was doing some unit tests for tp_3axis.c as part of the task too do them for axis.c
16:30.37andromeda-galaxyand I realized that the outputs of tp_3axis are binary plot3 files
16:30.56andromeda-galaxyso right now, it just checks the output against a ``known good'' output via binary memcmp()
16:31.05brlcadi was looking at it from an app or web dev perspective, you just include font-awesome.min.css and link the id you want
16:31.30andromeda-galaxybut that would, of course, break if the function used a different method to create the same (visually) output --- drawing segments in a different order, for example
16:32.01andromeda-galaxyunfortunately, I couldn't really think of any better way to do it, so I was wondering if you had any ideas...
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16:32.50brlcadandromeda-galaxy: yeah, that's a little tricky
16:33.29brlcadbe sure to use bu_temp_file() and to close/delete it when you're done, but comparing the binary output sounds find
16:33.37brlcador could try round-tripping it
16:33.49andromeda-galaxyround-tripping?
16:34.22andromeda-galaxyalso, it currently doesn't use bu_temp_file just because I did that part based on the bn_obr() tests that create files in the test directory, but I can change that...
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16:37.50brlcadandromeda-galaxy: yeah, round-tripping as in read the .pl file back into memory and see if the contents match what was expected
16:37.57brlcadit's a simple byte format
16:38.14brlcadmemcmp is probably good enough too, but will be more sensitive to potentially subtle changes
16:38.33brlcadsince it's a unit test, could just make sure its size is > 0
16:38.53brlcadit's pretty-printing an axis .. that will almost certainly change over time
16:39.58brlcadand yeah, I don't think any of the tests should be creating files if we can avoid it
16:41.15andromeda-galaxybrlcad: okay, unfortunately I can't really stop it from writing out to disk since it task a FILE * argument
16:41.23andromeda-galaxyso I'll round-trip it to a tmpfile
16:41.32brlcadideally would never hit the disk... would be nice to have a portable means to use memory buffer file pointers ala fmemopen()
16:41.42andromeda-galaxyindeed... I couldn't find one anywhere, though
16:41.51brlcadfmemopen() will do it
16:41.58brlcadbut I've not explored just how portable that is
16:42.01andromeda-galaxyonly on GCC, right?
16:42.07brlcadno..
16:42.37andromeda-galaxyoh, I see... POSIX.1-2008
16:42.53brlcadyep
16:43.08andromeda-galaxybut nothing C99...
16:43.21andromeda-galaxyI mean C89
16:44.23andromeda-galaxyI can't find any equivalent for POSIX.1-2001 though
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16:45.27andromeda-galaxyfor now, it is okay to use bu_temp_file()?
16:46.24andromeda-galaxy(and memcmp)? If we eventually get a library for cross-platform fmemopen(), we can always change it to use that...
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16:47.07brlcadandromeda-galaxy: yes, using bu_temp_file() is definitely okay/better since it avoids the perils of leaving turds on the filesystem
16:48.32andromeda-galaxybrlcad: I'll just use memcmp for now, maybe later we'll think of a way to make it diff better?  that code doesn't seem to be changed too much anyway...
16:48.42brlcadand memcmp probably is too sensitive for a first cut -- I do suggest just checking to make sure the #bytes is greater than some minimum threshold (e.g., if I'm writing an axis out, can I really do it in anything less than 4 bytes? 8 bytes? .. there's almost certainly a minimum
16:49.11andromeda-galaxyokay, I'll just check the file size then.  Also, I'm working on using the time64 functions from https://github.com/schwern/y2038/
16:49.29andromeda-galaxyto make bu_utctime() work properly on 32-bit systems with post-2038 dates
16:49.48brlcadit seems obvious now, but in 5 years when that test fails because someone added arrows on to the end of the axes, it'll take someone hours or days to figure out why the test is broken and how to update the binary goo to a new binary goo
16:49.59andromeda-galaxyso for the C functions that I'm putting in bu_date-time.h, I included the original file header comment frome time64.c
16:50.13andromeda-galaxybrlcad: makes sense.... Okay, I'll just check the file size
16:50.23brlcadeh?  time functions?
16:50.26brlcadwe have time functions
16:50.35andromeda-galaxywe have bu_utctime, but it calls gmtime()
16:50.43andromeda-galaxygmtime() on 32-bit systems requires a 32-bit time_t
16:50.54andromeda-galaxyso bu_utctime casts our nice int64 time to a time_t
16:51.10andromeda-galaxyso the test fails on systems with 32-bit time_t
16:51.37andromeda-galaxystarseeker suggested that I use the functions from the above link to get a 64-bit gmtime(), since they're MIT-licensed and that's the whole point of that project
16:51.37brlcadso ... fix bu_utctime?
16:51.49andromeda-galaxyright... but that requires re-implementing gmtime()
16:52.01andromeda-galaxywhich is actually quite difficult to do... dealing with leap years, etc. gets complicated
16:52.38ignaciouycan someone explain me the .in command?
16:52.58andromeda-galaxyso https://github.com/schwern/y2038/ has an MIT-licensed implementation of gmtime that deals with int64_t...
16:53.59andromeda-galaxyunfortunately, making it all work with using our build system to detect syscalls looks somewhat difficult.
16:54.09brlcadandromeda-galaxy: is there a reason to not just call gmtime64?
16:54.31andromeda-galaxyI don't believe that there is a standard gmtime64, is there?
16:55.38andromeda-galaxythat's what I was hoping to use from the schwern/y2038 time64 project
16:57.13brlcadokay, I'm convinced, just wanted to make sure there's not a simpler solution available
16:57.35andromeda-galaxymakes sense... I talked to starseeker about it some last night, and neither of us could find anything easier either
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16:57.59brlcadthat's a relatively new function, barely used, so hate to see it sucking in more without it paying its way
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16:58.05andromeda-galaxythe question that I just ran into was about time64.h, that file doesn't have a header comment with copyright & license like all the other files do
16:58.57brlcadin reality, bu_utctime() probably needs to change or there needs to be a way to keep the time in binary format
16:59.13brlcads/reality/all likelihood/
16:59.57brlcadandromeda-galaxy: the licensing is fine on that y2038 project
17:00.17andromeda-galaxybrlcad: right... starseeker also said that MIT is alright to integrate
17:00.29andromeda-galaxyI was just asking about how to credit the file that didn't have a header comment
17:00.53brlcadI don't follow
17:00.58brlcadwhat are you crediting?
17:01.17brlcadwhat does crediting even mean in this context
17:01.29andromeda-galaxysorry, so what I agreed on with starseeker last night was copying in certain portions of that y2038 project
17:01.36andromeda-galaxyto libbu, since the license is MIT
17:02.02andromeda-galaxybut, of course, then I need to put in a comment mentioning that the original code was copyright <copyright> and licensed wiith this license: (text of mit license)
17:02.18andromeda-galaxywhicih I did for the functions from time64.c, but time64.h doesn't actually have a copyright statement in it...
17:02.43andromeda-galaxybrlcad: what do you mean about leaving the time in a binray format? I did notice that bu_utctime() doesn't actually appear to be used anywhere apart from the tests...
17:04.43brlcadah, I suggest just dropping the entire thing into either libsysv as a subdir since it technically just ensures that the time.h and time64.h functions are available
17:05.22brlcadlibbu already depends on libsysv and we can wrap the provisioning with HAVE_GMTIME64 tests there if needed
17:05.51andromeda-galaxysure...
17:06.15andromeda-galaxyit also uses a bunch of configuration (like MAX_TIME_T, etc) in its own headers...
17:06.34andromeda-galaxythat I'm not *entirely* sure how to hook into the build sysetm...
17:06.36brlcadugh, very annoying new intrusion attempt started yesterday .... so many peckings
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17:08.05andromeda-galaxydo you know how to have the build system easily test for things like the maximum time_t val?
17:08.30brlcadandromeda-galaxy: yeah, I wouldn't try to divide up the sources other than to wholesale delete content like the perl and bin dirs
17:09.06brlcadthis is the rabbit hole that I was hoping to avoid
17:09.38brlcadthere's no easy way to it unless there's an existing cmake macro that does exactly that
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17:10.58brlcadandromeda-galaxy: ah, I just read the bit in their readme about installing
17:11.08brlcad"To install, simply copy time64.c and time64.h into your project and
17:11.08brlcadmake use of the functions.
17:11.35andromeda-galaxyright...
17:11.35brlcadso still a subdir, but those two functions and their README and LICENSE file
17:11.42brlcads/functions/files/
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17:12.02andromeda-galaxywe can redefine their Int64_T to our int64_t, that should help with some of it
17:12.14andromeda-galaxybut it doesn't help with things like time_t assumptions
17:12.31brlcadin that case, maybe a subdir in libbu is warranted until we identify a need to have it elsewhere
17:12.53andromeda-galaxysure, I can do that...
17:13.29andromeda-galaxywe could remove the part of it that tries to use the system gmtime() if the time_t is small enough... that would remove the dependence on min/max time_t vals
17:18.12brlcadTo install, simply copy time64.c and time64.h into your project and
17:18.13brlcadmake use of the functions.
17:18.15brlcadoops
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17:18.30brlcadcheck_type_size(time_t SIZEOF_TIME_T)
17:18.39andromeda-galaxyahhh...
17:18.58andromeda-galaxywell, this task will probably involve lots of learning cmake for me...
17:19.02andromeda-galaxycheck_struct_has_member for example
17:19.40brlcadthen in the time64_config.h or date-time.c files, you can use that SIZEOF_TIME_T to decide what to use
17:19.42andromeda-galaxySorry, I don't  know much about the way that cmake works right now... I'llt ry to figure out how to use those macros to create a build header file that has the values that it needs
17:20.05brlcadyou want to test for as little as possible
17:20.31brlcadin fact, since it's in a subdir, it can have its own CMakeLists.txt file with these tests in it
17:20.32andromeda-galaxyright... It alsohas some tests for members of struct TM, that's what I meant with SIZEOF_TIME_T
17:20.49andromeda-galaxyright... then can the header file use the variables defined in the cmake tests?
17:22.03andromeda-galaxysorry, check_struct_has_member
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17:29.16andromeda-galaxybrlcad: does BRL-CAD ever compile on platforms with time_t < 32bits?
17:30.53brlcadnot in a very long time
17:31.41andromeda-galaxywell, that's something to not have to worry about at least...
17:32.27andromeda-galaxySetting SYSTEM_MKTIME_MAX, &c seems somewhat difficult to do based on the config without testing each member's type individually
17:33.16brlcadI dont' think I even have a 16-bit system around any more, would have to scavenge an old 8088 or see if qemu can do it
17:34.22andromeda-galaxymakes sense... I was wondering if we could just set SYSTEM_MKTIME_MAX &c to the 32-bit minimum values for now
17:34.43andromeda-galaxysince there doesn't seem to be a great way to check the struct maximums (sorry if I'm missing something in CMake)
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17:37.28winghouchanWould love to start this task: "Design a web page that overviews the BRL-CAD contributors". It would certainly compliment work I've done on the landing page. However there isn't such task open :( Any chance of opening it?
17:38.07winghouchanIf it can't be opened, I'd be happy to do it anyway :D
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17:47.54MarcTannousor should I claim now?
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19:10.25andromeda-galaxystarseeker: I'm getting build errors in chull3d.c
19:10.35andromeda-galaxycast from function call type of double to non-matching int
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19:23.12MarcTannousglobal variables are pretty much done
19:23.28MarcTannousthe ones not removed are the ones with dozens/hundreds of calls
19:25.32andromeda-galaxyMarcTannous: true... that or the ones that are set all over the place
19:25.44MarcTannousyup
19:25.48MarcTannousjust went through all of them
19:26.35StragusI'm sure they would love to fix these as well
19:27.07MarcTannousnot sure how these should be approached though
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19:27.43MarcTannousregarding unit tests, anyone has any idea as to why the bu_semaphore ones are failing?
19:29.51andromeda-galaxyagh... more tests that only fail for some people...
19:30.14andromeda-galaxyFor the tests, I'm giving in and building in a VM even though it's slow so that I can get the 32-bit tests
19:30.25andromeda-galaxyin the process of seeing if I have fixed the 32bit time ones
19:30.45MarcTannousbu_semaphore not failing on your machine?
19:30.52andromeda-galaxyI don't think so...
19:31.07MarcTannousrun make test now, let's create a pastebin somewhere with tests failing on 64bit and tests failing on 32bit
19:31.11MarcTannousso that we don't have this issue again
19:31.31andromeda-galaxysure... my vm build is ~40% complete, then I'll have some 32bit testers...
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19:31.46MarcTannousmy VM is on 32 bits and I just ran make test
19:31.58MarcTannousrun make test on a 64 bit machine, as I don't have access to one
19:32.06MarcTannousand let's see which ones just fail because of this
19:32.10andromeda-galaxyfor my 64bit one, the only one that fails is:
19:32.23andromeda-galaxybu_binstr_to_hexstr_test4
19:33.05MarcTannousmy build is about 2 days old, not sure which tests have been fixed in the meantime but I have a lot failing here
19:33.17andromeda-galaxyyeah... I think that you're probably missing some of my fixes
19:33.23MarcTannouswe can count these out
19:33.41MarcTannouslet me set up a doc
19:37.09andromeda-galaxyactually, as of yesterday,  I believe this was run on a 32bit buildslave:
19:37.37andromeda-galaxyhttp://buildbot.brlcad.org/builders/brlcad-tester/builds/120/steps/Testing/logs/stdio
19:38.02andromeda-galaxyso, my binstr_to_hexstr, the two bu_semaphors and the date/time ones that I'm trying to fix now
19:39.08andromeda-galaxymaths22: awesome work on the buildbot! do you know when the buildslaves will be back up?
19:42.07MarcTannoushttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DlCGUQqUMsIh1Hnn7TljnAUcWYmypKQycPk_VzBT-w4/edit?usp=sharing
19:42.29MarcTannousI'm getting more on my VM
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19:42.51andromeda-galaxyokay, #5-11 I fixed
19:43.05andromeda-galaxywe aren't supposed to worry about the regress ones, those aren't unit tests but regression tests
19:43.14andromeda-galaxyuse make check instead of make test to speed things up by not running them
19:43.18andromeda-galaxyI fixed #17-22 as well
19:43.42andromeda-galaxyso just #12,#13,#3,#4, like on the buildbot
19:44.25MarcTannouswondering why the semaphor tests are failing on my machine
19:44.35MarcTannousam looking into them right now, if I find something I'll write it here
19:44.36andromeda-galaxydont know...
19:44.54andromeda-galaxygreat! I should be nearly done with the time ones now, gettin5g ready to test them in my vm
19:46.00andromeda-galaxyweird... bu_semaphor_test_p2 doesn't take this long on my machine either...
19:47.02MarcTannoustakes my machine ¬5 minutes to get past those
19:47.19andromeda-galaxyodd... interesting
19:49.20andromeda-galaxyhmm... I wonder if the semaphor thing has something to do with the fact thta the vms only have oneprocessor allocated
19:50.27MarcTannousmost likely
19:50.57MarcTannouscan we allow the VM to run on more than one core?
19:51.03MarcTannousI just tried and mine is locked on one core
19:52.03StragusIf these tests are meant to detect multithreading issues, a VM is often a poor platform for robustness tests
19:53.14Stragus... Unless you can force it to perform totally random context switch, which would be neat
19:54.15MarcTannousso just have a different test altogether for when it identifies a single core machine
19:54.30MarcTannoususing bu_avail_cpus() probably wouldn't be that hard
19:58.02andromeda-galaxyMarcTannous: I believe that you have to shut it down before VirtualBox will let that happen
19:58.14MarcTannoustried shutting it down, it's set on one core
19:59.04andromeda-galaxyodd...
19:59.31andromeda-galaxydo you still want to try to fix that one?
19:59.55MarcTannousnot sure it can be fixed for one cored machines after looking into the source code
20:00.22andromeda-galaxyMarcTannous: I have an idea, though I don't know for sure if it counts...
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20:01.09starseekerandromeda-galaxy: is it still failing to build?
20:01.14MarcTannousandromeda-galaxy: I am trying to figure out if having a separate scenario for the case in which the machine is single-cored, but I think it would defeat the purpose of the test
20:01.16andromeda-galaxystarseeker: let me check
20:01.24MarcTannousandromeda-galaxy: what do you have in mind?
20:01.48andromeda-galaxystarseeker: building now
20:01.57andromeda-galaxyMarcTannous: mostly something similar..
20:02.19MarcTannousandromeda-galaxy: look into the increment_thread function of the test
20:02.44MarcTannouswouldn't modifying it for a core kind of change the whole logic behind it?
20:02.50MarcTannousa single core *
20:03.52andromeda-galaxyyeah... probably the simplest thing to do is either to figure out some way to mark it as XFAIL on single-core machines or disable it on them
20:04.08andromeda-galaxystarseeker: it's still failing, line 108
20:04.11andromeda-galaxy*1008
20:04.32MarcTannoushow is a test supposed to be disabled?
20:04.43MarcTannousdirectly from CMaketests?
20:06.01MarcTannouscmakelists*
20:07.12andromeda-galaxyI had a different way in mind that keeps it running on multi-core systems
20:07.53MarcTannoussimply if(ncpu==1) return succes; else run the script in main
20:08.09andromeda-galaxystarseeker: can you reproduce the issue?
20:08.12MarcTannousthat would be the easiest way, but not sure we want to remove it altogether
20:08.20MarcTannousfrom the VMs
20:08.45andromeda-galaxymore just check if (ncpu < ncpurequested) { return success } {run test} that way the 1-core test still runs
20:09.30MarcTannousso it runs the first test and returns success immediately on the other 2
20:09.56MarcTannousyes, that would be okay, let's see if Sean/anyone else has a different idea
20:10.46andromeda-galaxysure.
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20:11.34MarcTannousanyway, I'm going to bed. brlcad, when you have the time please tell us your opinion on the semaphore tests, I'll read the log in the morning
20:11.36MarcTannousgood night guys
20:12.11starseekerandromeda-galaxy: one sec...
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20:15.00starseekerthere we go
20:15.03starseekerandromeda-galaxy: give that a shot
20:16.13andromeda-galaxyokay, one second, let me finish up one other thing
20:18.57andromeda-galaxystarseeker: okay, starting build, let's see what happens now
20:19.28andromeda-galaxy(slow vm)
20:21.02andromeda-galaxyI'm also trying to test out my timedate patches at the same time, sorry!
20:21.36andromeda-galaxycan I ask you a uquick question about cmake whilewe're waiting?
20:25.03starseekerI can try
20:25.15starseeker(sorry, in the middle of debugging something myself)
20:25.19andromeda-galaxyso I don't know if you saw the discussion I had this morning with brlcad about the time stuff we were talking about last night
20:25.28andromeda-galaxy(that's fine, sorry to interrupt you)
20:25.32starseekerdid - you were wondering about how to test for functions
20:25.52andromeda-galaxywell, on the build system side of it
20:26.09andromeda-galaxyI left the MAX_GMTIME structure the same way they had it, but changed it to not use a struct initializes
20:26.22starseekerok...
20:26.25andromeda-galaxybecause the standard doesn't actually say what order the fields should be in
20:26.54andromeda-galaxyand so all that CMake is checking for is the size of time_t
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20:27.31starseekerand you want it to check for something else?
20:27.32andromeda-galaxybut right now, basically the CMakeLists.txt file in the subdir uses BU_ADDLIB to declare itself a library
20:27.35andromeda-galaxyand libbu links againsit that
20:28.11andromeda-galaxy(also, it just leaves the support for the bsd-extension fields in struc tm disabled all the time, we don't really need them)
20:28.22starseekersure
20:28.26andromeda-galaxyso I just wanted to check whether  having it be a library that libbu linked against was the right way to do it
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20:28.44andromeda-galaxyI think that your most recent patch fixed the build
20:29.18starseekernods - too bad I somehow broke the chull3d algorithm :-/
20:29.27starseekergrr
20:29.52starseekerandromeda-galaxy: you can do it that way (library) but it's usually more complicated to do it in that fashion
20:30.14starseekeryou can also add the necessary file(s) straight into libbu
20:30.31andromeda-galaxyah.. I did it that way because Sean suggested putting the files in a subdir and having their own CMakeLists.txt
20:30.38starseekeroh
20:30.43andromeda-galaxyand I couldn't figure out any other way to give them their own CMakeLists.txt
20:31.12starseekerwell, you can do an add_subdirectory on the subfolder in libbu's CMakeLists.txt
20:31.35brlcadstarseeker: that sound okay?
20:31.40brlcadkind of wanted to keep the logic separate
20:31.49starseekeryeah, that should be fine
20:31.55andromeda-galaxybasically, what it does know, I think, is that it uses add_subdirectory() and also adds "y2038" to the list of libraries for libbu to link against
20:31.56starseekerbasically a little mini src/other build
20:31.57brlcadsince in theory this would go away at some point in the future when more platforms support it
20:32.25andromeda-galaxyand in the subdir, the CMakeLists.txt uses BRLCAD_ADDLIB() to add the y2038 lib that is linked against
20:32.35brlcadit's probably already possible to just have a half-dozen checks for various 64-bit timing routines in cmake and make bu_utctime use that
20:32.56brlcadbut I'm still conflicted that this is effort for a feature we're not actually using yet ;)
20:33.10starseekernods - depends on how strong a guarantee we want/need for the time function
20:33.28brlcadit'd be like semaphore or parallel
20:33.37brlcadthere'd be a #error if it couldn't
20:33.58brlcadwhich I just really doubt we'd practially encounter
20:34.07brlcadstill useful, though, no worries there
20:34.15andromeda-galaxyright... I kind of like doing it this way for now, it shouldn't be too much work to connect the library...
20:34.20brlcadi'm just glad andromeda-galaxy is doing the work ;)
20:34.28starseekerbrlcad: I don't have any really strong opinion either way - I do like making the function robust, if we're going to do the unit test on it
20:34.32brlcadgets to learn a little cmake
20:34.36brlcadand that's useful in itself
20:34.42andromeda-galaxytrue...
20:35.09brlcadthis should be the better way, so keep on .. we just need to expose that timestamping in a few places
20:35.38andromeda-galaxyindeed.. Hopefully my 32bit vm build will finish soon so that I can test it
20:35.44brlcadI'd say cache system wants that, but it really begs for binary timestamps
20:35.51starseekerif we don't want to guarantee that it will work we should either a) document why we aren't testing that so someone else doesn't add the test back in or b) condiditonalize it to environments where it has a chance of working
20:36.05andromeda-galaxybrlcad: speaking of semaphore, did you see the above discussion about bu_semaphore?
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20:36.21starseekershould eat something before trying to figure out how he messed up chull...
20:36.26brlcadandromeda-galaxy: not yet
20:36.53brlcadstarseeker: you mean leave it as gmtime()? I don't think that's an option given a bug has been observed with the testing
20:37.28starseekerbrlcad: that's my point - the test itself isn't valid unless we're either prepared to guarantee the behavior it is testing or disable the test when we know it won't work
20:38.38starseekerthinks we might as well make it robust (especially since andromeda-galaxy is doing it ;-)
20:38.47brlcadI think we're saying the same thing
20:38.51brlcadif the function is going to exist
20:38.54brlcadit needs a unit test
20:39.04starseekernods
20:39.07brlcadif it has a unit test, it is testing prescribed behavior
20:39.17starseekerright
20:39.46brlcadif the test fails, the options are only remove the feature, change the implementation to match the test, or change the test to match the implementation
20:40.33starseekerand the implementation is apparently system dependent unless we guarantee it, which sorta defeats the purpose of something like that
20:40.33brlcadand what we're talking about here are simply two different ways to change the implementation
20:41.09starseekernods - I think andromeda-galaxy is in good shape with the approach he's on
20:41.26brlcadno more defeating than semaphore defining a locking mechanism or bu_timer() giving a high-resolution timing mechanism
20:41.56starseekerright
20:42.11brlcadit's either a bunch of cmake tests and #ifdefs in the implementation or a different set of cmake tests and no #ifdefs in (our) implementation ;)
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20:42.54andromeda-galaxybrlcad: leaving the max/min gmtime values alone, I think I have it down to one cmake test
20:43.55andromeda-galaxyalso, to get max size_t from the cmake SIZEOF_TIME_T, I need to do something like 2^(SIZEOF_TIME_T*8-1), right?
20:43.57Straguswould just #error when the date is around 2034 and sizeof(time_t)*CHAR_BIT <= 32
20:45.08Stragus(1<<(sizeof(time_t)*CHAR_BIT))-1 but the shift will overflow
20:46.02StragusYour -1 before the shift will remove a bit and prevent an overflow, but the result will also be wrong
20:46.39andromeda-galaxyStragus: I though that for signed integers it was num_bits-1
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20:47.16StragusCool, time_t is signed, you are right
20:47.57andromeda-galaxyStragus: So (1<<(sizeof(time_t)*CHAR_BIT - 1))-1
20:48.07StragusYup
20:48.11andromeda-galaxyfor max, and -(1<<sizeof(time_t)*CHAR_BIT-1)) for min?
20:48.23StragusCorrect
20:48.51Straguswonders why they made time_t signed
20:48.59andromeda-galaxytimes < 1970?
20:50.31StragusI guess tracking past dates was more important than working until 2106
20:51.49StragusSeems some OSes use an unsigned time_t, like QNX
20:53.45andromeda-galaxyhmm.. interesting...
20:53.49andromeda-galaxymore compatibility problems
20:54.01andromeda-galaxyany idea how to make cmake skip 208?
20:54.02brlcadtime_t is unsigned on some platforms
20:54.28andromeda-galaxybrlcad: agh... now I have no idea how to calculate the min and max from the sizeof
20:54.36brlcadandromeda-galaxy: I'm not sure what you're doing
20:55.24brlcadif you're putting in y2038, you'll just #include "y2038/time64.h" and use gmtime64()
20:55.26Stragusif( (time_t)-1 > (time_t)0 ) printf( "We are teh unsigned!1\n" );
20:55.41andromeda-galaxybrlcad: well, one of hte config paramaeters for y2038 is the max/min host time_t
20:55.59andromeda-galaxyit uses that so that it can call the host time_t when the value issmall enogh
20:56.11andromeda-galaxyby default, it's fixed at a 32-bit signed time_t
20:56.45brlcaddoesn't see that mentioned in their time64_config.h
20:56.54andromeda-galaxytime64_limits.h
20:57.05andromeda-galaxyeven though the INSTALL file doesn't mention it, time64.c includes it
20:57.30brlcadah, was going to say -- it's not included with time64.h
20:57.35StragusWhat's wrong with just refusing to compile 32 bits after 2034? :)
20:58.40andromeda-galaxybrlcad: so I'm not entirely sure what to do...
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20:59.57andromeda-galaxywell, I could just leave it at the default and disable using host time_t...
21:01.04starseekerbrlcad: I think this is what I was thinking of:  http://opensource.cit-ec.de/projects/surface_mesh
21:01.55andromeda-galaxybrlcad: do you think that that would be alright?
21:02.04andromeda-galaxyIf so, I'll submit my current patch...
21:02.06starseekerhttp://graphics.uni-bielefeld.de/publications/imr11.pdf
21:03.05brlcadstarseeker: ah neat .. hadn't seen them
21:03.36starseekerdunno if their license is flexible or not - would guess probably not, since they went for LGPLv2
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21:06.06brlcadandromeda-galaxy: well it sounds like the route your going down is amost there -- you can get SIZEOF_TIME_T easily enough, and getting the sign is also easy
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21:06.14brlcadwith those two, you have your range
21:07.12konrobrlcad: Hello
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21:09.43konrobrlcad: i have been doing some work on vrml-g converter and would like to know if i am on the right track
21:12.05andromeda-galaxybrlcad: did you see what I said above? I'm going to try just disabling the system timef cfunciton
21:12.59brlcadcheck_c_source_compiles("#include <time.h>\nint main() { int sign[(((time_t)-1) > 0) ? 1 : -1]; return 0; }\n" HAVE_UNSIGNED_TIME_T)
21:13.20brlcadkonro: go on... ;)
21:13.21andromeda-galaxyis there anything wrong with just using gmtime64 for everything?
21:13.55brlcadandromeda-galaxy: within the implementation of bu_utctime(), nothing wrong
21:14.14brlcadthe problem will be if anyone tries to use other functions from this chunk of code you're adding
21:14.53brlcadbasically leaving a live grenade in there if there's not some means to disable the functions using those symbols
21:15.16andromeda-galaxyhmm? I just meant thatin the y2038 config file you can disable using the system functions
21:15.55brlcadseriously, though, you have it right there .. that check_c_source_compiles line and the other sizeof test, then a couple #ifdef's in the limits header to set the min and max values (once unsigned, once signed)
21:16.29brlcadguide me to what you're referring to?
21:16.50andromeda-galaxywtrue... I was just wondering whether there's any advantage to using the system functions for small numbers
21:18.07brlcadI mean point me to what code you're referring to for disabling system functions
21:18.14andromeda-galaxyin _config.h, USE_SYSTEM_LOCALTIME,USE_SYSTEM_MKTIME
21:18.16andromeda-galaxyetc.
21:18.38konrobrlcad: I was able to get the vrml primitive nodes and carry out some transforms then print the vertices using to stl format and then do an stl-g transformation which can be seen in the following wireframe representation http://imgur.com/A7GXmAq
21:19.13brlcadandromeda-galaxy: gotcha
21:19.16brlcadreading
21:20.57brlcadokay, I see now, yeah that's fine
21:21.10konrobrlcad: sorry if any confusions konro is thesame as konrado
21:21.42brlcadbe sure to put warnings around both the localtime/gmtime limits and their USE_SYSTEM... vars sections down below
21:22.13brlcadkonro: yeah, I saw that image yesterday, progress!
21:22.13andromeda-galaxywhat kind of warnings? just mentioning that they aren't used?
21:22.25brlcador a couple days ago
21:23.04brlcadandromeda-galaxy: that's not a very useful warning... :)
21:23.29brlcadthe warning on top is that the values on the limits should be dynamically set via cmake tests
21:23.30andromeda-galaxythat's what I thought... what warning did you mean?
21:23.48brlcadthe warning down below is that turning on USE_SYSTEM... may be wrong without setting the limits
21:24.30brlcadalternatively, edit the implementation to make it not possible to set/unset them and put a note in readme saying that edit was made
21:25.06andromeda-galaxyahh.. I put in a comment that says that we turned that off to allow fewer tests for platforms
21:25.25brlcadkonro: so what's your next step -- put the vertices into an array and call mk_bot() ?
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21:26.07brlcadandromeda-galaxy: that's sort of a rather passive statement
21:26.18brlcadthe concern is that things can be wrong
21:26.31andromeda-galaxyokay, I'll edit it in a little bit...
21:26.33brlcadby merely uncommenting or adding a line that turns something on
21:27.07andromeda-galaxyI can't put the new version up on melange right now, but I will do it before I commit
21:27.18brlcadyou have to make this future-proof to someone that is going to glance at this file X years from now long after everyone has forgotten that the limit values were never hooked up
21:29.44konrobrlcad: I would first read and store the node in a tree where i can carry out the transform hierarchically and then store the vertices an array and pass to mk_bot()
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21:33.01konrobrlcad: with proto keyword and use keyword
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