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| 00:21.27 | hcurtis | brlcad: Checking in |
| 01:44.07 | hcurtis | I've tried to research this myself, but I could not find a clear answer. The page http://brlcad.org/wiki/Compiling says I should type “svn up brlcad-svn-trunk” to update the source code in the brlcad-svn-trunk directory in my VM. It then says in order to check out source code I should type “svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/brlcad/code/brlcad/trunk brlcad” and “cd brlcad.” |
| 01:45.05 | hcurtis | However, since the source code I just updated is in my brlcad-svn-trunk directory, should I type “svn checkout svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/brlcad/code/brlcad/trunk brlcad-svn-trunk” instead? |
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| 02:05.46 | brlcad | hcurtis: you usually only checkout from svn once, and you update that checkout many many times |
| 02:06.06 | hcurtis | Ohhhhh |
| 02:06.12 | hcurtis | lol |
| 02:06.21 | brlcad | the VM already has the sources checked out, so the instructions are saying that you only need to update those sources |
| 02:06.49 | brlcad | so you can just cd brlcad-svn-trunk and run "svn update" for example |
| 02:08.11 | hcurtis | I was doing it backward because that was the order those commands are in in http://brlcad.org/wiki/Compiling. |
| 02:08.58 | brlcad | that is the order |
| 02:09.16 | brlcad | but as the instructions make emphatic ... "WE ALREADY DID THIS FOR YOU" |
| 02:09.27 | brlcad | so instead of checkout, you update |
| 02:10.32 | brlcad | we didn't want everyone downloading the VM to have to do a checkout .. it takes a long time |
| 02:10.50 | brlcad | but inevitably, the checkout in the VM will quickly get out of date and need to be updated |
| 02:15.09 | hcurtis | The words "WE ALREADY DID THIS FOR YOU" are in the section called "Download BRL-CAD." As a result, I thought they were saying they'd already downloaded the code for me. My research told me that downloading != checking out, so I thought checking out the code was a separate step. |
| 02:16.21 | hcurtis | I'm not denying I messed up. I'm just telling you how I got there. |
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| 02:18.28 | brlcad | nods, you're not the first |
| 02:19.31 | brlcad | if you have a suggestion to tighten up the instructions more clearly (disambiguating, not just adding more info), all ears |
| 02:20.47 | brlcad | it's a fine line between explaining how to compile using tools we rely on and explaining how those tools work (which is outside the scope of that page, they have their own docs) |
| 02:21.36 | brlcad | conceptually, checking out source is downloading them, but so is updating sources too |
| 02:27.26 | hcurtis | brlcad: Another reason I didn't realize my method was incorrect was that the VM never complained (yet it complains often about other things). But then my reading over the weekend led me to think, wait a second, what I'm doing can't be right. |
| 02:32.17 | hcurtis | I understand why you check out code---so that you can have a working copy of individual files you want to make changes to. However, I don’t really understand why devs need to actually install BRL-CAD. Is it so that they can see immediately the effect that their changes have on the software? |
| 02:37.22 | brlcad | you don't need to actually install |
| 02:37.30 | brlcad | 99% of the time at least |
| 02:38.05 | brlcad | there is a very slim category of issues that only occur from an installation location, though, so those instructions are complete |
| 02:38.34 | hcurtis | Ok |
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| 02:47.51 | hcurtis | brlcad: One of the guides that came with the VM disk image says “If you want to override the current installation (not recommended until you are comfortable and successful with the build process), take the next step after completing all the above successfully” and then lists some commands. Why would a dev want to override the VM installation? |
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| 05:28.01 | hcurtis | brlcad: Thank you for answering the questions I had earlier. |
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| 11:37.05 | raj12lnm | brlcad : Submitted the patch. |
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| 15:34.15 | raj12lnm | hi brlcad: |
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| 18:38.55 | ``Erik | noms his quinoa tabbouleh O.o |
| 18:55.03 | raj12lnm | ``Erik what is the difference between float (*vert)[5] |
| 18:55.10 | raj12lnm | and float *vert[5] |
| 18:55.11 | raj12lnm | ? |
| 19:01.09 | ankesh11 | raj12lnm: float (*vert)[5] means vert is a pointer to an array of floats. |
| 19:01.30 | ankesh11 | float *vert[5] just means vert is an array of float pointers |
| 19:01.56 | raj12lnm | ankesh11 : do you have acess to brlcad main repository ? |
| 19:02.07 | raj12lnm | i mean do have it downloaded ? |
| 19:02.13 | ankesh11 | Yes |
| 19:02.28 | raj12lnm | ankesh11 : can you go to include/wdb.h |
| 19:02.39 | raj12lnm | and also srs/libwdd/metball.c |
| 19:02.47 | raj12lnm | c/srs/src |
| 19:03.05 | raj12lnm | sorry for the type src/libwdb/metball.c |
| 19:03.29 | raj12lnm | ankesh11 : Did you open those files ? |
| 19:04.14 | ankesh11 | strange, I don't have metball.c. This is an older version though |
| 19:05.40 | raj12lnm | sorry |
| 19:05.49 | raj12lnm | src/libwdb/wdb.c |
| 19:06.14 | ankesh11 | Okay, yes |
| 19:06.28 | raj12lnm | now do you see an error in there ? |
| 19:06.51 | raj12lnm | shoudn't the definition be fastf_t (*vert)[5] |
| 19:09.07 | raj12lnm | wonders if ankesh11 is still there !~ |
| 19:09.33 | ``Erik | (*vert)[5] would mean vert is an array with a length of 5, each node being a pointer to floats... so that'd be wrong, since it should be a dynamic length array of pointers, each to an array of 5 floats... |
| 19:10.44 | ``Erik | a good quick modification (like patch to get commit access sized) would be to make a metaball point struct with the point_t and two floats, so it'd be an array of those structs... |
| 19:11.56 | raj12lnm | ``Erik : First I would want to know if the current is currect |
| 19:12.05 | raj12lnm | suspects that it is a bug! |
| 19:12.29 | ``Erik | conceptually, there is an arbitrarily sized set of these metaball control points, each control point is a physical location (vert[0], vert[1], vert[2]), a "field strength" value and a "goo" value |
| 19:12.47 | ``Erik | I think the current form is correct... |
| 19:12.57 | raj12lnm | yeah. That is well noted``Erik |
| 19:13.11 | raj12lnm | but the concern is if the current is correct ? |
| 19:13.28 | raj12lnm | shouldnt that be fastf_t (*verts)[5] |
| 19:13.35 | ``Erik | it's been used in production with some large sets (thousands) without walking past a boundary and triggering a segfault |
| 19:13.49 | ``Erik | no, it shouldn't be (*verts)[5] |
| 19:13.58 | raj12lnm | why do you say that ? |
| 19:14.30 | ``Erik | because it's not 5 arrays of floats, it's an array of float vert[5]'s... |
| 19:14.43 | raj12lnm | alright I get your point |
| 19:15.23 | ``Erik | you can always try to make the change and run something to see... (there's a procdb to make metaballs, then crank it through rt... I suspect if you change it, you'll get segfaults or pagefaults) |
| 19:15.45 | raj12lnm | `` |
| 19:15.51 | raj12lnm | Erik |
| 19:15.56 | raj12lnm | can u see this patch https://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/patches/278/ |
| 19:16.00 | raj12lnm | and commit it ? |
| 19:16.18 | raj12lnm | i had a discussion with brlcad about it yesterday and he asked me to submit the patch |
| 19:17.26 | ``Erik | I don't see any benefit to it and it removes constraints that the compiler could be using for optimization or possibly even bounds safety O.o |
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| 19:20.36 | ``Erik | I'd rather let brlcad make that call since he's a little more in the mix on it, y'know? |
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| 19:22.26 | ``Erik | personally, I think the patch is about equivalent to removing a 'const' *shrug* :) |
| 19:23.09 | ankesh11 | brlcad: I have ported the scripts to Flot. Here's what a plot looks like: http://i.imgur.com/KFQrLdp.png |
| 19:24.31 | ankesh11 | The other graphs don't yield much details due to lack of data. Would be really helpful if you can send the archived logs. |
| 19:28.47 | raj12lnm | ``Erik , brlcad : as per http://unixwiz.net/techtips/reading-cdecl.html I still think it should be |
| 19:28.57 | raj12lnm | fastf_t (*verts)[5] |
| 19:29.26 | raj12lnm | because verts is a pointer to array of 5 fastf_t |
| 19:30.05 | raj12lnm | and not verts is a 5 array of pointer to float which is eq. to fastf_t *verts[5] |
| 19:34.20 | raj12lnm | ankesh11 : Did you see my point ? |
| 19:35.27 | ankesh11 | raj12lnm: I did, I am not familiar with the core repository, my comments could mislead you. |
| 19:36.09 | raj12lnm | alright ankesh11. But I believe it is just a matter of declaration in a widely used programming language (C) ;) |
| 19:36.48 | raj12lnm | as per the article we go right first and then to left and take into account the pointers |
| 19:36.58 | raj12lnm | and paranthesis |
| 19:37.33 | ankesh11 | Yes, and I maintain float (*vert)[5] means vert is a pointer to an array of floats. |
| 19:39.27 | ankesh11 | and not "an array with a length of 5, each node being a pointer to floats" as ``Erik had pointed out. |
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| 19:41.52 | raj12lnm | ankesh11 : but the article suggests otherwise |
| 19:47.32 | ankesh11 | raj12lnm: You missed something. I agreed to your point. |
| 19:48.27 | raj12lnm | so you mean if allocate memory correctly then fastf_t (*verts)[5] can point to [[1,2,3,4,5],[0,1,2,3,4]] ? |
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| 19:50.18 | raj12lnm | where fastf_t is defined as double ! |
| 19:50.30 | ankesh11 | raj12lnm: Yes. |
| 19:50.31 | raj12lnm | (I am sure you know this ;) ) |
| 19:51.19 | raj12lnm | ``Erik : I am still not sure. Can you just give a rethought |
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| 20:00.28 | ``Erik | I'll dig in a bit more when I have time, it's been a bit since I've done any C at all, much less non-obvious C, so I may be off :) changing it to a struct would eliminate any confusion and make things more readable all around, I'd think... |
| 20:01.37 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:vladbogo * 61088 (brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/fb_generic.c): Implemented the open function and added the framebuffer to fb_generic. |
| 20:07.45 | albertcoder | vladbogo, Can I have your github account link please? |
| 20:10.39 | albertcoder | vladbogo, ping |
| 20:11.17 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 61089 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_date-time.c: time is a problem as a variable name - change it. |
| 20:12.20 | vladbogo | albertcoder: this is my github account link https://github.com/vladbogo but for brlcad I use sourceforge https://sourceforge.net/u/vladbogo/profile/ |
| 20:13.20 | albertcoder | thanks a lot vladbogo :) |
| 20:13.35 | vladbogo | you're welcome :) |
| 20:14.05 | pandrei | hello :) |
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| 20:24.04 | raj12lnm | ``Erik should i wait for brlcad for the final word on it ? the only reason I will not want to change it to a struct for now because this is a publicly exposed api. And if we make a suttle change in it I am not sure about the consequences |
| 20:24.58 | raj12lnm | Also on the similar lines the mk_pipe has a similar point issue. (so if struct changes is called for i think we must uniformally change it) |
| 20:25.36 | raj12lnm | ``Erik : I think since brlcad is not here currently, Do you think writting on the list will be a good idea ? |
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| 22:31.59 | raj12lnm | alright people |
| 22:32.05 | raj12lnm | signingoff |
| 22:32.18 | raj12lnm | please see the patches :) |
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| 23:50.34 | hcurtis | Last week when I was working on using BRL-CAD functions like bu_malloc to run my dynamic allocation program, I did not build BRL-CAD beforehand. I chose not to because on my system it takes hours and because the dynamic allocation task doesn't involve my changing any BRL-CAD source code. Was that a mistake? In other words, should I build BRL-CAD before I try to use BRL-CAD functions to run my dynamic allocation program? |
