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| 02:20.04 | Ralith | ``Erik: haha |
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| 16:30.03 | elena | hi |
| 18:06.24 | ``Erik | heh, nutty, 5 supercars racing, each with only a gallon of gas O.o top gear ++ |
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| 18:25.13 | alvaro | which is the qcad channel ? |
| 18:27.42 | elena | i don't see it in this servel list. |
| 18:28.17 | alvaro | is #qcad ? |
| 18:28.44 | elena | try it. it didn't show up in my listing. |
| 18:29.19 | alvaro | can i get qcad support here? |
| 18:29.50 | elena | i don't know what it is. maybe others do. |
| 18:30.13 | elena | i've seen some forums about qcad-brlcad integration. |
| 18:30.45 | alvaro | qcad and brl cad should be integrated... |
| 18:33.18 | alvaro | is there a command like offset in qcad ? |
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| 19:21.36 | ``Erik | /t BRL-CAD - NOT qcad, tyvm |
| 19:21.38 | ``Erik | :D |
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| 19:22.05 | elena | too late. he's gone. |
| 19:22.46 | ``Erik | I know, thus my willingness to be so glib |
| 19:22.59 | ``Erik | *shineyhappyfaceforthepople* |
| 19:23.17 | elena | :) |
| 19:23.23 | ``Erik | people, even |
| 19:25.02 | ``Erik | how is your model repo thing going? still exploring the technologies and preparing? I knwo you submitted last year but went with another project, I imagine you have a good grasp of the situation as it relates to your proposal? |
| 19:25.45 | elena | it's going ok. |
| 19:26.07 | elena | yes. i did. and actually it was a good thing i didn't get in last year. |
| 19:26.23 | elena | i got a change to learn more about brlcad meanwhile. |
| 19:26.50 | ``Erik | ok, for the technical side, we're going with a mentor "pool", and I'm listed as unattached/admin, *shrug* let me know how I can help. your success is our success :D |
| 19:27.22 | elena | thank you. I'll "bookmark" you ;) |
| 19:27.37 | ``Erik | as long as you don't "favorite" me O.o |
| 19:27.47 | elena | how was your weekend? |
| 19:28.02 | ``Erik | busy, much cleaning of the domicile |
| 19:28.34 | ``Erik | I received "lisp in small pieces" on thursday and haven't had a chance to really sit down with it :( |
| 19:28.53 | ``Erik | yours? |
| 19:29.11 | elena | seems like better than yours :) |
| 19:29.38 | elena | did you moved recently? |
| 19:29.54 | elena | or just scheduled cleaning. |
| 19:29.54 | pacman87 | waves to elena and ``Erik |
| 19:29.56 | ``Erik | I'd hope so, given that you have the ability to hop a light rail and go get 'exotic' food and beer O:-) |
| 19:30.02 | elena | hi pacman |
| 19:30.29 | pacman87 | i'm the 'new primitives' gsocer |
| 19:31.23 | ``Erik | make-up cleaning for a long period of squalor, preparing to sell it |
| 19:31.25 | pacman87 | my weekend was spend coding a pipelined implemnation of the LC3b |
| 19:31.33 | ``Erik | 'LC3b'? |
| 19:31.53 | pacman87 | yeah, really minimal instruction set for teaching purposes |
| 19:32.02 | ``Erik | (please make good _tess routines, my adrt/isst work is all BoT) |
| 19:32.07 | pacman87 | only 14 instructions |
| 19:32.11 | ``Erik | ah |
| 19:32.30 | ``Erik | I wrote a 'brainfuck' interpreter/compiler suite for fundamental optimization research, that's fun stuff :) |
| 19:32.38 | pacman87 | lol |
| 19:33.00 | pacman87 | i finished my tetris in assembly this week, ended up ~3k when assembled |
| 19:33.10 | ``Erik | which arch/os? |
| 19:33.13 | pacman87 | 6811 |
| 19:33.22 | elena | isn't tetris the enemy of pacman ? |
| 19:33.28 | ``Erik | no os? raw? what vidoe and input hw? |
| 19:33.46 | ``Erik | (and why not 6812? we may've discussed this, but I may not have been very sober) |
| 19:33.51 | pacman87 | input is four switches, output is a 128x64 px LCD panel |
| 19:34.01 | ``Erik | um, I2C lcd? |
| 19:34.07 | pacman87 | because we were given 681's |
| 19:34.13 | ``Erik | ah, classwork? :D |
| 19:34.32 | pacman87 | yeah |
| 19:34.38 | pacman87 | 6811's * |
| 19:34.43 | ``Erik | <-- still curious about how the lcd is wired pu |
| 19:34.46 | ``Erik | up |
| 19:34.55 | pacman87 | no, i put the LCD on the memory bus |
| 19:35.01 | pacman87 | we used an external 8K eeprom |
| 19:35.08 | ``Erik | hm |
| 19:35.14 | ``Erik | nice |
| 19:35.17 | ``Erik | EE class? :) |
| 19:35.32 | pacman87 | i had to switch out the crystal from 8 to 4 MHz to run at 1 MHz so the LCD could keep up |
| 19:35.38 | ``Erik | hehehhe |
| 19:35.40 | pacman87 | yeah, embedded systems |
| 19:36.03 | pacman87 | i also had to write my own 3x5 pixel font |
| 19:36.21 | ``Erik | awesome :) when I did my CS coursework many many years ago, anything that involved touching physical low level hw was an 'ee' class over in the physics dept... at least we still did C and asm back then :) |
| 19:36.49 | pacman87 | yeah, i designed the whole thing from the circuit board on up |
| 19:36.53 | pacman87 | :D |
| 19:37.23 | ``Erik | impressive :) |
| 19:37.56 | ``Erik | <-- been half tempted to buy a 68040 and build a crude unix box ground up, so has an idea of the sheer awesomeness of what ya did |
| 19:42.37 | ``Erik | btw, pacman, grab a camera and show us pics of your masterpiece ;) |
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| 19:58.42 | ``Erik | someone is bbq'ing pig |
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| 20:07.54 | pacman87 | ``Erik: i would take pics, but i haven't gotten moto4lin working in KDE4 yet to get them off my phone |
| 20:08.43 | pacman87 | after i finish coding this, i'll reboot into an install with KDE3 |
| 20:09.09 | elena | is leaving. |
| 20:09.12 | elena | bye |
| 20:09.16 | ``Erik | <-- never liked kde, was alwys a gnome weenie |
| 20:09.23 | ``Erik | have a nice evening, elena :) |
| 20:09.28 | elena | thanks. |
| 20:09.39 | pacman87 | farewell |
| 20:09.55 | elena | I liked kde3 better than gnome. now i like gnome better than kde4. |
| 20:10.12 | pacman87 | ``Erik: i'm the opposite (kde vs gnome) |
| 20:11.16 | ``Erik | I first used gnome 0.10, after learning qt... there were severe weaknesses in qt at the time, and the first kde that came around was... pathetic... throw in that gcc2.7 sucked at c++ and took forever on a 120mhz 48m machine, ... :) I turned into a hardcore C gtk/gnome beeyotch |
| 20:11.42 | ``Erik | every time I try qt/kde, it takes effin' forever to compile and just feels all 'wrong' |
| 20:11.51 | ``Erik | trying too much to be like windows to me |
| 20:12.11 | pacman87 | grew up with windows, doen't know any better |
| 20:12.16 | pacman87 | doesn't * |
| 20:12.27 | ``Erik | that gnucash via macports requires aqbanking, which requires qt3... that pisses me off. A lot. |
| 20:12.57 | ``Erik | ah, I got hooked on 'puters before msdos was popular :) I look for the os that sucks least in my view, winderz has never been anywhere in the running |
| 20:12.59 | pacman87 | my first install was slackware 10 |
| 20:13.08 | ``Erik | heh |
| 20:13.18 | pacman87 | i remember ms-dos shell |
| 20:13.25 | ``Erik | I have a stack of color coded floppy disks from slackware 2.0 |
| 20:13.46 | pacman87 | then win 3.1 |
| 20:14.07 | pacman87 | i still have the windows entertainment pack floppy |
| 20:14.13 | ``Erik | tried to grab a different color fo reach disk set, then wrote (in pencil) the set and number... intended to re-use them, didn't wnat to waste a label |
| 20:14.16 | pacman87 | 16 bit apps |
| 20:14.36 | ``Erik | hm, 6811 is fun, but I bloodied myself on 6502 :( |
| 20:14.42 | pacman87 | so i got an integer overflow in the high score table for tetris |
| 20:14.47 | ``Erik | and 6510 |
| 20:15.13 | ``Erik | steal another bite, on overflow, inc the new byte and clear the old one |
| 20:15.16 | ``Erik | byte |
| 20:15.35 | ``Erik | then mush them together for highscore |
| 20:15.35 | pacman87 | not my tetris, the windows tetris :P |
| 20:15.37 | ``Erik | oh |
| 20:15.39 | ``Erik | hah |
| 20:15.39 | ``Erik | :D |
| 20:15.49 | ``Erik | thought you meant your 68HC11 beastie |
| 20:15.55 | ``Erik | assumes an HC |
| 20:16.03 | pacman87 | strangely enough, the negative scores are still at the top of the list |
| 20:16.06 | pacman87 | yeah, HC |
| 20:16.17 | ``Erik | sort must be unsigned |
| 20:16.26 | pacman87 | yeah |
| 20:16.49 | ``Erik | simple bit radix sort will do that |
| 20:16.51 | brlcad | finishes giving elle a bath and removing her bonnet |
| 20:16.58 | pacman87 | it's disappointing that XP x64 can't run them |
| 20:17.07 | pacman87 | cause they dropped 16 bit support |
| 20:17.59 | ``Erik | heh, or unsigned short vs %d/%u confusion |
| 20:18.06 | ``Erik | O.O |
| 20:18.12 | ``Erik | oh |
| 20:18.16 | ``Erik | the orange thing |
| 20:18.46 | ``Erik | brlcad, drive about 30 minutes up 1... then pick me up and take me to the package store. :D |
| 20:18.58 | ``Erik | *duck* |
| 20:19.00 | brlcad | heh |
| 20:19.04 | brlcad | no. |
| 20:19.16 | ``Erik | feigns surprise |
| 20:20.58 | ``Erik | (ya'll remembered to call your mothers, right?) |
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| 20:23.40 | morricone_ | is the solid modeling about modeling matter? |
| 20:24.21 | morricone_ | anyone know anything about QCad |
| 20:24.48 | morricone_ | and how to digitize images to get coordinate values of the lines traced out |
| 20:25.05 | morricone_ | kind of modeling geometry not solids |
| 20:25.09 | morricone_ | but still the same |
| 20:25.20 | ``Erik | soooorta, in a solid model, ever bit of geometry has a physical presense in space and can be queried for things like mass.... qcad seems to be a 2d drafting program more than anything else |
| 20:25.43 | morricone_ | i m looking for a certain function |
| 20:25.54 | ``Erik | that function being? |
| 20:26.06 | morricone_ | and open office org doesnt allow images to be in the chart windows |
| 20:26.29 | morricone_ | laying down points on an image configured in on a coordinate plane |
| 20:26.48 | morricone_ | and then extracting the geometric data in the form of x,y |
| 20:26.56 | morricone_ | and inputting it into open offie |
| 20:26.58 | morricone_ | office |
| 20:26.59 | morricone_ | * |
| 20:27.17 | morricone_ | i cant seem to find the program that will do that for me |
| 20:27.23 | ``Erik | like... converting a raster image into a vector image? |
| 20:27.31 | morricone_ | yes |
| 20:27.44 | morricone_ | but i want the data |
| 20:27.53 | morricone_ | so i can model the physics in spreadsheet |
| 20:27.59 | ``Erik | that's more of a 2d manipulation, not a cad/cam/cae issue |
| 20:28.34 | morricone_ | you ever heard of it being a function in an open source program list? |
| 20:28.38 | morricone_ | any |
| 20:29.02 | morricone_ | it is easy with AutoCAd |
| 20:29.06 | morricone_ | and excel |
| 20:29.18 | morricone_ | the terrible ms programs i know so well |
| 20:29.21 | ``Erik | it's not a thing I follow, sorry... I know the 'sorbel' edge detection algo is simple abd public, I'd imagine it could easily be walked to find basic splines |
| 20:29.31 | ``Erik | but it's just not my scene, I'm sorry |
| 20:29.44 | morricone_ | no problemo |
| 20:29.58 | morricone_ | i m sure resolution will occur if i presist |
| 20:30.04 | ``Erik | mebbe "gimp" has a fu to make it happen |
| 20:30.15 | morricone_ | i ll check that out |
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| 20:31.03 | ``Erik | hopes he didn't steer that guy wrong |
| 20:34.02 | andax | gimp has a smart edge detection feature, if that helps |
| 20:34.55 | ``Erik | dude's gone *shrug* I only know sorbel cuz I implemented it for shits and giggles one afternoon |
| 20:35.44 | andax | i dont know if it can write to .dxf files or such, anyway... |
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| 20:50.22 | alvaro | how do i start brlcad when you install it from binary tar.gz ? |
| 20:50.58 | alvaro | [root@alvaro-edicta-host bin]# /usr/brlcad/bin/mged |
| 20:50.58 | alvaro | /usr/brlcad/bin/mged: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 20:50.58 | alvaro | [root@alvaro-edicta-host bin]# |
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| 20:56.04 | ``Erik | means you don't have the same libc++ that it was compiled against |
| 20:56.13 | ``Erik | your best bet is probably to compile it from scratch, sorry :( |
| 20:57.10 | alvaro | is it difficult to compile it? |
| 20:58.03 | alvaro | where are the instrucions to do it ? |
| 21:00.00 | ``Erik | um, untar the source, go into the dir, do "./compile --enable all && make install" and that's it |
| 21:00.37 | alvaro | seems easy ..... (too much to be true) |
| 21:02.31 | alvaro | where are the sources? |
| 21:03.19 | pacman87 | ~cadsvn |
| 21:03.19 | ibot | To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
| 21:04.03 | pacman87 | although you might want the latest release instead of svn |
| 21:04.44 | ``Erik | same place you downloaded the binary, except it says "source" instead of "linux x86-32" |
| 21:05.24 | alvaro | i think thi is: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=105292&filename=brlcad-7.14.6.tar.gz&a=28288066 |
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