| 00:19.42 | ``Erik | http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2006-June/047380.html |
| 00:35.35 | ``Erik | http://qreeves.blogspot.com/2006/04/rob-levins-feenode.html |
| 00:35.36 | ``Erik | o.O |
| 00:35.39 | brlcad | that's just wrong |
| 00:39.51 | brlcad | it's the MS-equivalence of software FUD taken to a personal level |
| 00:40.32 | brlcad | lilo spends a LOT of time working on the network, it's just in ways many don't understand or at least appreciate |
| 00:42.22 | ``Erik | *shrug* I'm getting these from people who've fled... |
| 00:42.27 | brlcad | the second one is hilarious.. he created a bot to join all the channels, got lots of complaints from others on the network and then now screams bloody murder when they got fed up with his opt-out bot joining every channel on the network |
| 00:42.32 | ``Erik | he lurks in #scheme, but I don't follow this network |
| 00:42.59 | brlcad | i've interacted with lilo quite a lot over the years |
| 00:43.06 | brlcad | even talked to him on the phone for a while |
| 00:44.54 | brlcad | pretty straightforward guy with a vision for the network, dealing mostly with things from a "division" level if you get my meaning -- the problem with most have is that he doesn't have the geeky upbringing (which makes him pretty good at the management side in this instance imho) |
| 00:45.24 | brlcad | and he wants to fully fund this operation, starting from the top with himself, which most see as him just being lazy |
| 00:47.03 | brlcad | this network is contrary to most irc network "purists" (i.e. anarchists) too, and therein lies a huge taste of hatred fodder for a vast majority that didn't expect it |
| 00:47.24 | brlcad | he's seen as "the man" who puts them down when they don't get what they wanted/expected |
| 00:48.45 | ``Erik | <-- is an efnetter, born and raised... :/ |
| 00:49.01 | brlcad | services and staff are centralized, global notices, chan/nickserv's, all fuel for those that just don't get it -- those are things that I appreciate from the network actually, they are part of what make it sane for reasonable software development discussion |
| 00:49.20 | brlcad | even efnet is starting to centralize somewhat.. :) |
| 00:49.27 | brlcad | they're just way slower at it |
| 00:49.41 | brlcad | and have a lot more to fight and less reason to go that direction |
| 00:51.59 | brlcad | the biggest complaint I see and agreewith on the network is the changing of channel name convention to convey a classification |
| 00:52.26 | brlcad | the ## crap is rather counterproductive and useless imo |
| 00:54.57 | brlcad | GAH!.. |
| 00:55.17 | brlcad | why am I just now finding out about the FreeBSD Documentation License... |
| 00:57.36 | brlcad | hmm.. they're apparently not listed on the free content license list.. |
| 01:00.19 | ``Erik | cuz osi is a pack of gpl felating lamers? :D |
| 01:01.14 | ``Erik | damn I talk to some retarded people |
| 01:01.38 | brlcad | actually, even here.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_content |
| 01:01.58 | brlcad | unless i'm just not seeing it |
| 01:02.16 | brlcad | hmm, it is listed on the gnu site, but I must have missed it there |
| 01:02.36 | brlcad | i'm not entirely content with brl-cad's current licensing on the documentation |
| 01:05.53 | ``Erik | what are they now? the gnu doc license? |
| 01:06.02 | brlcad | dual-licensed |
| 01:06.08 | ``Erik | ... being? |
| 01:06.08 | ``Erik | :D |
| 01:06.14 | brlcad | gfdl and gpl |
| 01:06.25 | ``Erik | looked at 'creative commons license'? |
| 01:07.12 | brlcad | yeah |
| 01:07.40 | brlcad | heh, it's funny if you read gnu.org they are quite at odds with not putting the CC license up there that ARE compatible |
| 01:07.46 | brlcad | just bitching about the ones that aren't :) |
| 01:08.24 | ``Erik | read anything on the most recent stink against the gpl? |
| 01:08.39 | ``Erik | "all things on linux must be gpl'd"? |
| 01:17.30 | brlcad | no, haven't |
| 01:17.37 | brlcad | who's purporting that? |
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| 16:27.07 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: archer enhancements for displaying view parameters and updated archer splash screen from Bob |
| 16:44.22 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc/vers.vbs: file didn't exist before 2005 |
| 16:47.45 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc/brlcad.dsw: s/\n/\x0D\x0A/g i.e. convert the UNIX line endings to DOS line endings. this is needed to make the MSVC6 Studio environment happy -- converted per Daniel's insight. |
| 16:54.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/ (brlcad.def brlcad.dsp brlcad.rc): s/\n/\x0D\x0A/g i.e. convert the UNIX line endings to DOS line endings. this is needed to make the MSVC6 Studio environment happy -- converted per Daniel's insight. |
| 17:16.17 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/other/blt/library/dd_protocols/Makefile.am: Add tclIndex to brlcadscript_SCRIPTS. |
| 17:18.57 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/other/blt/library/Makefile.am: Add pkgIndex.tcl and tclIndex to brlcadscript_SCRIPTS. |
| 17:20.27 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/other/blt/library/pkgIndex.tcl: Change default library path. |
| 17:25.48 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/cursor.tcl: Do a "package require" using BLT instead of blt for all platforms. If this works out, I need to come back and remove the conditional. |
| 17:27.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/Makefile.am: Added ShaderEdit.tcl to scripts. |
| 17:30.34 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/librt/importFg4Section.c: Always compile the fastgen4 import stuff. |
| 17:33.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/librt/wdb_obj.c: Always compile the fastgen4 import stuff. Also, if'out the prompt about hiding objects. |
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| 20:27.43 | IriX64 | wheres the brlcad help channel or is this it? |
| 20:46.27 | brlcad | this is it |
| 20:46.46 | IriX64 | thankyou, gotta run. |
| 20:46.48 | brlcad | anything and everything related to brl-cad |