| 00:13:40 | prpplague | BZFlag: you attending OLS? |
| 00:38:43 | BZFlag | prpplague: trying to. with all the turmoil at lineo, who knows. |
| 00:39:15 | prpplague | BZFlag: i see erikm is doing a session |
| 00:39:39 | prpplague | BZFlag: i can't decide if i want to go to OLS or the UKUUG |
| 00:40:55 | | bzflag: bugger all, i dunno |
| 00:40:55 | BZFlag | ibot ols? |
| 00:41:21 | | OK, prpplague. |
| 00:41:21 | prpplague | ibot: ols is Ottawa Linux Symposium |
| 00:41:49 | | okay, BZFlag. |
| 00:41:50 | BZFlag | ibot ols is also http://www.ottawalinuxsymposium.org/ |
| 00:42:25 | prpplague | http://www.ottawaplus.ca/feature/5533/ |
| 00:45:21 | | okay, BZFlag. |
| 00:45:21 | BZFlag | ibot ols is also http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2002/ |
| 00:45:55 | BZFlag | well, I'd really like to go, and I'd really like Someone Else(tm) to pay for it. |
| 00:47:16 | prpplague | lol |
| 00:47:46 | prpplague | i almost always pay for my own :( |
| 07:37:46 | mmatten | morning -_- |
| 08:18:39 | seletz | morning |
| 08:28:31 | Sammy | good afternoon everyone ^_^ |
| 11:08:56 | seletz | erikm: hi |
| 11:09:48 | seletz | erikm: just tried again the CVS version of blob, and this one does not boot linux anymore (guess this is still the same bug). |
| 11:10:14 | seletz | erikm: i'll investigate a bit. |
| 11:12:23 | erikm | doesn't boot anymore? |
| 11:12:43 | erikm | hmm, last time I tried (i.e.: five days ago) it still did |
| 11:20:16 | seletz | erikm: hmm, whats different between the blob you use and my blob? |
| 11:20:38 | erikm | I use it on LART with a 2.4 kernel |
| 11:21:01 | seletz | erikm: it definitely does not boot my linux. If i use an old (2.0.5-pre2) version it does. (same board, same system, except blob) |
| 11:22:01 | seletz | erikm: yup, just reflashed blob and voila, linux boots. hmmm. strange |
| 11:22:27 | erikm | hmm, interesting. somebody@promise.com subscribed to LAK |
| 11:22:58 | erikm | seletz: oh, that can happen once in a while. if the kernel hangs in weird ways it can overwrite some parts of the flash |
| 11:23:48 | seletz | erikm: no, dont misunderstand me, i reflashed the old version. the cvs version never boots linux. |
| 11:24:41 | seletz | checking config |
| 11:55:13 | seletz | erikm: ah, found it. CVS blob had a bug in setup_initrd_tag(). tim riker is to blame :) |
| 11:55:29 | seletz | erikm: just committing it |
| 12:01:27 | erikm | ah, right |
| 12:01:43 | seletz | erikm: why did your board boot? |
| 12:02:50 | erikm | seletz: don't know. maybe I was still running a blob version without tim's patch |
| 12:03:41 | seletz | well, I'll send Abraham a note, i think he was the first who noticed the problem ... |
| 12:40:02 | seletz | |
| 12:40:08 | Russ | what a bummer |
| 12:40:16 | Russ | I liked getting larted |
| 14:18:57 | erikm | hmpf |
| 14:19:05 | erikm | "Consider yourself LARTed..." |
| 14:21:58 | erikm | considers a patch to undo abraham's latest patch |
| 14:26:56 | prpplague | erikm: i see your doing a session at OLS |
| 14:34:59 | erikm | prpplague: yes, that's true |
| 14:36:35 | prpplague | erikm: i'm going to try to book my flights to OLS today |
| 14:39:38 | seletz | prpplague: hi |
| 14:39:41 | seletz | looking |
| 14:39:47 | prpplague | hey seletz |
| 14:42:46 | seletz | considering to get to OLS too |
| 14:44:06 | erikm | seletz: fwiw: nico, rmk, deepak saxena, jeff sutherland, and dave woodhouse are going as well |
| 14:45:17 | erikm | seletz: and ottawa is a nice city, almost european |
| 14:46:36 | seletz | erikm: how much is the flight? |
| 14:46:53 | seletz | trying to convince lufthansa.de to work |
| 14:48:49 | seletz | _ugh_ 1065 EUR |
| 14:49:26 | prpplague | seletz: go dude! |
| 14:50:04 | prpplague | http://www.ottawaplus.ca/feature/5533/ |
| 14:50:51 | seletz | calling a canadian |
| 14:52:19 | seletz | prpplague: beer! yes! |
| 14:53:09 | prpplague | erikm: think i could get everyone together for a round? |
| 15:00:12 | KuEdE | any1 here ? |
| 15:00:13 | erikm | phone.... |
| 15:00:48 | seletz | yup |
| 15:01:16 | KuEdE | Newbie question: is the ramdisk to be downloaded in the compressed format or expanded ? |
| 15:01:18 | prpplague | KuEdE: no, we all went home...lol |
| 15:01:24 | KuEdE | hehe :-) |
| 15:01:35 | erikm | KuEdE: compressed |
| 15:01:39 | KuEdE | ahhhhh |
| 15:01:42 | KuEdE | k thx |
| 15:02:03 | KuEdE | blob runs nice on my Hardware !! |
| 15:02:10 | KuEdE | thx guys for your work |
| 15:02:27 | prpplague | ya thanks erikm |
| 15:02:45 | seletz | searching a cheap flight |
| 15:02:46 | prpplague | KuEdE has been LARTed |
| 15:02:47 | KuEdE | yo when i verified all ill send the diffs for my arch |
| 15:03:01 | KuEdE | nope its a new Hardware... |
| 15:03:35 | prpplague | KuEdE: just a reference to the message on boot from Blob |
| 15:03:53 | KuEdE | :-)) ic |
| 15:05:24 | erikm | returns from phone |
| 15:05:45 | erikm | seletz: I haven't booked a flight yet |
| 15:06:11 | prpplague | is booking his now..... |
| 15:06:15 | seletz | erikm: i just found some for round 650 EUR |
| 15:06:19 | erikm | seletz: tip: any non-german airline will be *much* cheaper |
| 15:06:33 | seletz | erikm: hmmm |
| 15:06:42 | seletz | yup |
| 15:06:43 | KuEdE | yeah... u could support our new "swiss" ;-P |
| 15:06:58 | erikm | seletz: I guess klm will be quite cheap for you, whereas lufthansa will probably cheaper for me |
| 15:07:10 | seletz | KuEdE: "bisch fo dr schwiz, hä?" |
| 15:07:18 | KuEdE | höhöö... jo schoo |
| 15:07:28 | mmatten | :> |
| 15:07:57 | prpplague | has looks around not understanding....lol |
| 15:08:21 | seletz | KuEdE: "jo wa koscht noch an flug noch kanada, wa moinsch?" |
| 15:09:07 | KuEdE | 12(0seletz12) 0 kei plan |
| 15:09:30 | erikm | prpplague: it's the usual jokes between germans and swiss. we have the same between dutch and belgians, english have the same between them and irish |
| 15:10:06 | seletz | erikm: in this case it's actually between austrian and swiss.... |
| 15:10:08 | seletz | :) |
| 15:10:16 | mmatten | mja ik kan ook en beetje nederlands :> |
| 15:10:21 | prpplague | erikm: ahh |
| 15:10:32 | mmatten | mja ik zuig wel hard :> |
| 15:10:40 | seletz | (blob going multilingual) |
| 15:10:40 | prpplague | erikm: we have them between the north and south here |
| 15:11:09 | prpplague | seletz: thats fine, just not starwars gungin...lol |
| 15:11:19 | erikm | prpplague: yeah, AFAIK the texans are to the rest of the US just like the belgians are to the dutch :) |
| 15:11:42 | erikm | mmatten: wauw, dat klinkt best goed |
| 15:11:45 | KuEdE | hehe... i c international bunch of arm freaks |
| 15:11:55 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:12:07 | erikm | seletz: didn't know you were austrian, I thought you were german |
| 15:12:26 | mmatten | playing quake with dutch - newfound attempt to learn new languages! |
| 15:12:27 | seletz | booooh, nooo, never, lol. np. |
| 15:13:31 | prpplague | mmatten: ya can be very entertaining, goal: see how fast you can run something through babelfish |
| 15:16:22 | mmatten | no i will sound like the instructions in a japanese handbook :) |
| 15:17:18 | erikm | KuEdE: btw, of course we are very interested in the blob patches for your platform |
| 15:17:41 | KuEdE | jo... but ive got to test them first.. |
| 15:17:50 | KuEdE | ill not forget |
| 15:31:41 | KuEdE | cu guys |
| 15:38:46 | seletz | erikm: have you been at the OLS in the past years? |
| 15:39:24 | erikm | seletz: no, but I've been to ottawa before |
| 15:40:44 | seletz | erikm: the hotel is quite expensive at 118EUR single /night. |
| 15:41:03 | seletz | erikm: is ottawa that expensive or is it just the hotel? |
| 15:44:49 | erikm | seletz: IIRC the hotel linked from the homepage was less expensive |
| 15:45:09 | erikm | the OLS homepage, I mean |
| 15:45:29 | seletz | erikm: that was the hotel from the OLS homepage ... |
| 15:46:47 | erikm | oh. hmm. well.... IIRC I stayed in a travelodge hotel six years ago. the hotel still existed two years ago. you might be able to find it with google |
| 15:46:55 | seletz | woha! erik does a speech at OLS too ... |
| 15:47:45 | seletz | will try |
| 15:48:03 | erikm | seletz: *nod* :) |
| 15:49:19 | seletz | erikm: the topics are, erm, quite impressive. |
| 15:52:03 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:52:39 | seletz | prpplague: btw, i guess you have read my mail, so what do you think about it? |
| 15:53:23 | prpplague | seletz: i need to get with management |
| 15:53:53 | seletz | prpplague: a timeframe? (read: can i relax?) |
| 15:55:09 | prpplague | seletz: i've got some meetings later this week |
| 15:56:04 | seletz | prpplague: ok, so i can relax :) |
| 15:56:14 | prpplague | seletz: yes you can relax for right now |
| 15:57:40 | seletz | prpplague: when i make it to the OLS then we'll have some beers, right? |
| 15:57:51 | mmatten | with those prices i'd need to sleep in a tent and get there with a rowboat to be able to pay it :< being student sometimes sucks |
| 15:59:43 | seletz | re-soldering f**ed uf LCD wirnings |
| 16:00:32 | prpplague | seletz: definetly, i intend on inviting the arm crew out to beers and i'll buy a round or two |
| 16:01:23 | erikm | we're planning to have an arm-linux BOF session, btw |
| 16:01:47 | seletz | BOF? sorry? |
| 16:01:56 | prpplague | Birds- Of - A -Feather |
| 16:02:20 | seletz | hmm. |
| 16:02:34 | seletz | scratching behind his ear |
| 16:03:02 | erikm | fires up gdict |
| 16:03:19 | | | (BOF) (From the saying "Birds of a feather flock together") An |
| 16:03:19 | | | informal discussion group, scheduled on a conference program |
| 16:03:20 | | | or formed ad hoc, to consider a specific issue or subject. |
| 16:03:47 | mmatten | oh and i thoughtj there was fun involved :P |
| 16:04:07 | erikm | mmatten: of course there is :) |
| 16:04:18 | mmatten | ;] |
| 16:09:48 | prpplague | mmatten: i suggested it be arm-linux-beer BOF |
| 16:11:14 | mmatten | point taken :) |
| 16:15:43 | seletz | yo! 320x240 mono 4 bit grayscaled LCD shows a nice TUX! |
| 16:15:48 | seletz | happy |
| 16:16:10 | prpplague | seletz: what lcd panel you using? |
| 16:17:59 | mmatten | either me or seletz just dropped out |
| 16:20:31 | seletz_ | prpplague: NAN YA Plastics corp. LTCE9S372JGK |
| 16:21:12 | prpplague | seletz_: NAN YA? as in NAN YA Business? |
| 16:21:15 | prpplague | lol |
| 16:23:29 | seletz_ | looks yuck-bleah, btw. |
| 16:25:15 | seletz_ | well, i'll call it a day. |
| 16:25:38 | seletz_ | ciao |
| 16:25:54 | mmatten | same here |
| 16:26:06 | prpplague | seletz_: i was thinking about ordering a couple of these http://www.earthlcd.com/pdalcd.htm |
| 16:26:24 | seletz_ | looking |
| 16:29:53 | seletz_ | prpplague: dont expect good graphics quality, though. IMHO moinochrome is just for _very_ simple graphics and/or text. The TUX looks quite garbled. |
| 16:31:01 | seletz_ | prpplague: and keep in mind that you have to get the LCD voltage somewhere. It's around 20V, so thats a little unusual... |
| 16:32:56 | seletz_ | prpplague: but they are quite low-power .... |
| 16:33:16 | seletz_ | anyway, i'm off now.... |
| 16:33:22 | seletz_ | bye folks |
| 16:34:47 | prpplague | seletz_: ya, i found a nice maxim chip for the bias |
| 16:34:59 | seletz_ | ah, cool |
| 16:35:49 | prpplague | seletz_: and i wasn't expect to look at high quality pr0n, lol, just so basic stuff, maybe use picogui |
| 16:37:00 | prpplague | erikm: have you looked at the trizeps module? |
| 16:37:22 | seletz_ | bye |
| 16:37:27 | prpplague | later |
| 17:45:39 | erikm | prpplague: no, I didn't look at it |
| 17:46:17 | prpplague | erikm: seletz and i are talking about developing something similiar |
| 17:46:52 | erikm | prpplague: please help me remind: what was trizeps again? |
| 17:47:01 | prpplague | erikm: let me get the url |
| 17:47:29 | prpplague | erikm: http://www.keith-koep.com/trizeps.html |
| 17:48:10 | prpplague | erikm: the company i work for is interested in sponsoring the project |
| 17:50:54 | erikm | prpplague: ah, right, I remember |
| 17:51:23 | erikm | prpplague: you might want to mail jdb about your ideas, he was thinking about doing something like that as well |
| 17:52:11 | prpplague | erikm: lol, i don't think jdb likes me too much, i think my questions were too annoying for him,lol, but i'll send a message anyway |
| 17:52:27 | erikm | prpplague: CC them to me |
| 17:52:32 | prpplague | erikm: ok |
| 17:52:44 | erikm | prpplague: and tell him I told you to mail him |
| 17:53:11 | prpplague | erikm: anyway, you think there would be a market for that item? |
| 17:55:02 | erikm | depends. if not too expensive it's nice for hobbyists, otherwise it would be nice for embedded stuff |
| 17:55:24 | erikm | having the system on a small module is very nice for repair in the field |
| 17:55:36 | erikm | (i.e.: repair becomes swap module) |
| 17:56:14 | prpplague | erikm: we're looking at 64mb ram , 16mb flash, for around $205 EU |
| 18:04:11 | prpplague_lunch | bbiaf |
| 18:04:18 | erikm | goes home |
| 18:04:18 | erikm | bye |
| 18:04:20 | prpplague_lunch | later |
| 18:04:28 | prpplague_lunch | see ya on the moro |
| 18:51:42 | seletz | hi again |
| 19:32:16 | prpplague | seletz: well, you going to go to OLS? |