| 00:21:41 | sammy | hello ... |
| 02:07:25 | | sammy: i haven't a clue |
| 02:07:25 | Sammy | ibot : see BZFlag ? |
| 02:07:36 | | BZFlag is TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps |
| 02:07:36 | Sammy | ibot :BZFlag ? |
| 02:07:47 | | BZFlag was last seen on #tuxscreen 4 hours, 13 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying: back soon [Tue Oct 16 22:54:39 2001] |
| 02:07:47 | Sammy | ibot :seen BZFlag ? |
| 05:27:52 | Sammy | BZFlag : you here ? |
| 07:56:16 | erikm | morning |
| 07:59:13 | Russ | morning |
| 07:59:30 | Sammy | morning 2 . |
| 08:02:23 | Sammy | Russ : I has finally order the Tuxscreen ... |
| 08:05:47 | Sammy | but it's will get maybe few weeks, but I can porting blob on sa-1110 board first.. |
| 08:07:58 | erikm | Russ: did you read my comments about the flash code earlier? |
| 08:08:07 | erikm | (say 10 hours earlier or so) |
| 08:08:16 | Russ | yah |
| 08:08:27 | erikm | any comments? |
| 08:08:30 | Russ | are there any boards that blob runs on with 1x16 flash? |
| 08:08:41 | erikm | yes. the creditlart is such a board |
| 08:09:27 | erikm | one 16MB flash chip is less board space :) |
| 08:09:41 | Russ | smaller blocks too |
| 08:10:02 | erikm | 128K blocks |
| 08:14:27 | erikm | but anyway, thats why I want to make intel32.c and intel16.c |
| 08:14:42 | Russ | I don't really know the intel code that well |
| 08:14:44 | erikm | and for consistency I call the amd flash stuff amd32.c |
| 08:15:10 | erikm | or should I use intel2x16.c intel1x16.c and amd2x16.c? |
| 08:26:39 | Russ | hmm..., just by buswidth makes sense |
| 08:26:52 | erikm | ok |
| 08:27:33 | Russ | keep an eye out for arches that what to do flash type detection in their init function |
| 08:27:56 | Russ | s/what/want/ |
| 08:28:41 | Russ | sleep |
| 08:29:47 | erikm | might be difficult, but I'll try |
| 08:30:33 | erikm | night |
| 11:07:04 | erikm | tries to convince the linuette guys to switch back to blob |
| 11:23:26 | Sammy | what's that erikm ? |
| 11:24:19 | erikm | Sammy: mizi.com has been using blob, but they switched to bootldr. I got their blob patch and try to convince them switching back to blob |
| 11:25:56 | Sammy | sure do that , cheer up , go go go ,let's get our blob group stronger .... |
| 11:33:19 | Sammy | finish change code ....start compiler....... |
| 11:39:21 | Sammy | error in make ... |
| 11:39:30 | Sammy | need change some path ... |
| 11:43:38 | Sammy | OK...finish |
| 11:44:03 | Sammy | stat download to lart first |
| 12:20:16 | Sammy | yeah ...good still can run .... |
| 12:33:12 | Sammy | erikm : what |
| 12:33:16 | Sammy | sorry |
| 12:33:41 | Sammy | erikm: what's diffent with that blob and blob-start ? |
| 12:34:23 | Sammy | and blob-start only have 600 byte but still can run on LART ? |
| 12:35:02 | Sammy | omm ... I mean the different |
| 12:36:04 | erikm | Sammy: blob-start is the first stage loader, blob-rest is the second stage loader, blob is the full bootloader |
| 12:38:39 | Sammy | ohh...try some code change and test... |
| 12:41:05 | erikm | Sammy: blob-start code tends to break easily if you got the memory setup wrong |
| 12:42:49 | prpplague | morning all |
| 12:42:55 | erikm | hi prpplague |
| 13:04:04 | prpplague | well i suppose to get that new webpad unit in today, i anxious to see how quickly i can get blob running on the unit |
| 13:06:16 | erikm | prpplague: should become even easier with the CVS version |
| 13:06:25 | erikm | needs to update the documentation for that, though |
| 13:16:21 | prpplague | erikm: hows the support for sa-1110 currently? |
| 13:17:06 | erikm | prpplague: it works for seletz on his system3, I still need to check the assabet though |
| 13:17:24 | erikm | prpplague: at least the sa1110-memsetup code is clean |
| 13:17:38 | prpplague | erikm: cool, well we will have a new entry soon i hope... |
| 13:18:10 | Sammy | so I don't ever change any code that's it's also can run on this kind of board ? |
| 13:18:53 | erikm | Sammy: mamagement summary for adding a new board: |
| 13:19:07 | erikm | - add board to configure.in |
| 13:19:35 | Sammy | yeap , that's what I think to do so ... |
| 13:19:36 | erikm | - add board definition to acconfig.h |
| 13:19:56 | erikm | - add board include file in include/blob/arch/ |
| 13:20:19 | erikm | - add memory setup code in src/bloc/memsetup-sa1100.c or memsetup-sa1110.c |
| 13:20:42 | erikm | that's the basic support |
| 13:21:38 | erikm | for flash support, you will also need to add some board specific code to src/blob/<board>.c |
| 13:21:46 | Sammy | should I need to write a Makefile.in into /tools ? |
| 13:22:04 | erikm | Makefile.in files are automatically generated |
| 13:22:32 | Sammy | buy rebuild-gcc ? |
| 13:22:44 | Sammy | er b |
| 13:22:47 | Sammy | er by |
| 13:23:21 | erikm | yes |
| 13:23:54 | Sammy | ok ...now I am go on a little step ... |
| 13:24:07 | Sammy | waiting for a good news |
| 13:30:38 | Sammy | erikm : how much you buy one assabet develop board ? |
| 13:30:53 | erikm | Sammy: I got one from intel :) |
| 13:31:52 | Sammy | so admiration... |
| 13:32:39 | Sammy | some need to go out , will back soon ... |
| 13:32:48 | Sammy | erikm : chack here ... |
| 13:32:58 | Sammy | http://www.masteria.com.tw/frame02.htm |
| 13:33:40 | Sammy | I got the manual , and so the web site is from here ... |
| 13:33:57 | Sammy | go out ... |
| 13:34:01 | erikm | eh, is that a PCI bus? |
| 13:35:00 | Sammy | yes |
| 13:35:10 | erikm | interesting |
| 13:35:46 | Sammy | this is what I porting board ... |
| 13:36:38 | erikm | what kind of north bridge do you use? |
| 16:18:00 | sammy_wms | erikm : you here ? |
| 16:19:06 | erikm | yes |
| 16:19:08 | sammy_wms | erikm : what is north bridge ? |
| 16:19:29 | erikm | the PCI host bridge |
| 16:19:37 | sammy_wms | I have the board , but I don't really know what you meat that ? |
| 16:19:47 | erikm | the bridge that's closest to the CPU and the memory |
| 16:20:59 | sammy_wms | omm...let me ask that guys and tell you tomorrow sorry |
| 16:37:43 | sammy_wms | night |
| 16:37:50 | erikm | night, sammy |
| 16:37:53 | sammy_wms | is zzz |
| 16:52:47 | Russ|werk | erikm: do you think 8.1 Ohm resistors would be fine for the cs8900a (asking for 8ohm ~1%) |
| 16:54:29 | erikm | Russ|werk: 8ohm? for what? I can't remember seeing 8ohm resistors in the reference designs |
| 16:55:28 | erikm | Russ|werk: oh, wait, you have a 3.3V chip |
| 16:55:51 | Russ|werk | right |
| 16:56:07 | Russ|werk | I'm being told that 8ohm is not a standard value, but 8.1 ohm is |
| 16:56:07 | erikm | Russ|werk: FYI: we use 24 ohm resistors where 24.3 ohm is specced |
| 16:56:37 | Russ|werk | I'm wondering now what resistors they used before |
| 16:56:47 | Russ|werk | they say 8.2 on them... |
| 16:57:06 | Russ|werk | and those work |
| 16:57:38 | Russ|werk | its for the TX resistors, I figure there will probably be more than .1 ohm resitstance in the cables anyway |
| 16:57:45 | erikm | I think it's not that critical as long as you don't use 100m cat5 cable |
| 18:13:05 | erikm | hiya tim |
| 18:29:53 | | Since Tue Oct 16 17:45:11 2001, there have been 70 modifications and 117 questions. I have been awake for 1 day, 1 hour, 44 minutes, 42 seconds this session, and currently reference 2908 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 18:29:53 | I_KalamBa | ibot status |
| 18:30:05 | | bzflag is, like, TimRiker or a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game at http://BZFlag.org/ debian arm linux contains a version that will run on the ipaq at like 6 fps |
| 18:30:05 | I_KalamBa | ibot what is bzflag? |
| 18:50:56 | prpplague | this is cool, i just received a sa-1110 based webpad serial #1 |
| 18:53:03 | erikm | prpplague: hehe :) |
| 19:01:17 | prpplague | hmm, i like this much better than the progear |
| 19:44:43 | prpplague | darn, all the specs are in korean |
| 19:45:07 | erikm | oops |
| 19:58:24 | prpplague | erikm: http://www.voix.co.kr/english-proll-5.html |
| 19:59:18 | erikm | 32MB flash! wow |
| 20:07:45 | prpplague | about 40% of this board is wasted space |
| 20:09:49 | erikm | prpplague: doing small board designs is an art |
| 20:10:40 | prpplague | i'm sure |
| 20:12:37 | erikm | it usually helps a lot if the schematics designer kicks the PCB designer :) |
| 20:14:09 | prpplague | sounds like you might have some first hand experience...lol |
| 20:15:12 | erikm | prpplague: with LART we had the luck that the schematics designer was the PCB designer :) |
| 20:20:40 | erikm | prpplague: and with our <censored> design the PCB design got 50% smaller after the schematics designer (aka jdb) kicked the PCB designer |
| 20:21:34 | prpplague | lol |
| 20:31:56 | erikm | goes zzz |
| 20:31:59 | erikm | 'night |