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03:00.48velixDoes "WaitTime" work when using AMI ?
03:11.08velixCan't I send Applications through AMI ?
03:21.53velixHmm... callfiles are much beter.
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05:48.54[TK]D-FenderAMI isn't for "sending applications"
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16:12.42Kobazyoooo
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16:14.35Samot?????
16:14.43Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: how's things
16:15.31[TK]D-FenderKobaz, crazy times as I just did over 2 days of OT since the bell on Friday setting everyone up to work remote now....
16:16.25Kobazah
16:16.25Kobazyeah
16:16.33Kobazw
16:16.45Kobazwrong window
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16:31.24SamotSo VoIP.ms did the exact opposite of how things are heading and wouldn't you know, it's causing problems for their users.
16:31.29SamotLol.
16:33.07Kobazheh opposite?
16:37.05SamotApparently VoIP.ms is forcing 10-digit CID numbers.
16:37.17SamotWhich is the opposite of where things are heading in North America.
16:37.52SamotThe use of 10-digit CID numbers is going away. It now causes too much confusing with International standard formats.
16:37.53sibiriawhat's the shortest MSISDN in USA/Canada?
16:38.00sibiriaand ditto for stationary
16:38.29SamotIt's going to require a full NANP format or a E.164 format.
16:39.09Samotsibiria: I guess it all depends.
16:39.28SamotI server a market where there are still only like 3 area codes for the entire state.
16:39.46SamotSo the exchanges still support 7-digit dialing. NXX-XXXX
16:40.01SamotBecause everyone is still pretty much in their local exchanges.
16:40.08SamotThere isn't overlay.
16:41.01Kobazoh right
16:41.10SamotSo I allow them to send me 7 digits, I then prefix their 1+local area code
16:41.25Kobazright
16:41.27SamotBut for the most part US/Canada is 10 digit dialing.
16:41.32Kobazyup
16:41.48SamotAnd while that's not changing, the CallerID can't be that anymore.
16:42.21SamotBecause carriers are starting to present, specially mobile carriers, E.164 CallerID formats.
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16:43.05SamotSo 10 digit CAllerID from Detroit MI looks like a Netherlands caller.
16:43.14SamotBecause it's 313 area code.
16:43.27Samot313NXXXXXX comes in as +313NXXXXXX
16:44.45velixI've set the CDR to log calls, which haven't been answered. But neither channelid, nor the called phonenumber (the extension) are stored in there. Anyone with an idea?
16:46.36igcewielingI find CallerID should be set to whatever allows the callee to call the number back from their calls list.
16:47.43igcewielingIn my case for NANPA calls, that is 10 digit CallerID with a 1 prepended to it
16:50.13sibiriavelix: use a custom format (through cdr_custom.conf) to get exactly all you need
16:50.45velixsibiria: I did, the fields are empty for unanswered calls.
16:51.28sibiriavelix: some CDR data doesn't exist until the call is bridged. you may need to log other channel variables
16:51.35sibiriaand supply other things in your call files
16:51.55velixsibiria: https://bpaste.net/XOUQ
16:52.00velixsibiria: Okay, I'll look up other stuff.
16:52.06velixOtherwise, I'll jsut archive the callfiles :)
16:52.49velixoops, that way the old enabled = no version.
16:52.54velixThe real one is yes of course ;)
16:55.39sibiriai always do outward dialing by putting a few extra channel variables in the call file
16:56.00velixsibiria: Good idea, 1 sec
16:56.32sibiriae.g. cnid and recipient etc.
16:57.36velixyeah, good idea
17:02.16velixsibiria: Can I do this by SetCDRUserfield only or common SetVar?
17:09.10sibiriafor a call file you specify this with SetVar
17:09.20sibiriaSetvar: SOMETHING=blargh
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17:10.46nimbiushi asterisk, trying to use messageSend but getting Message: Message technology not found.
17:11.08nimbiusnm
17:11.12nimbiusmore porting
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17:12.52velixsibiria: Yeah, I'm using Setvar, but there is SetCDRUserfield for the CDR as it seems.
17:24.42sibiriavelix: yes you set a custom CDR variable for this
17:24.57sibiriaSetvar: CDR(SOMETHING)=abc123
17:25.18sibiriathen you grab it with CDR(SOMETHING)
17:25.58sibiriause normal channel variables if you process this through your own hangup procedure
17:26.18sibiriaat least that's how i go about it
17:26.36velixnice nice nice.
17:27.38velixDebian's Asterisk 16 is a mess with pre-configured config files. I've compiled A17 from scratch. Is there a minium configuration to start with?
17:28.04Samotenabled = no
17:28.25Samotvelix: If you are trying to use csv CDRs why does the conf file have it disabled?
17:28.37velixSamot: I've just uploaded the old version, in my live version, this is enabled of course.
17:28.43velixSamot: It also already works thanks of sibiria idea.
17:28.53velixhe's cold as ice.
17:30.22sibiriaregarding minimum config, you asked this a few days ago and i recall giving a few advice
17:30.34sibiriawhat i mentioned is when using asterisk's default sample configs as the base
17:30.48sibiriathe default setup is pretty reasonable compared to for example debian's package
17:31.16velixsibiria: No, I didn't, really. But thanks ;)
17:31.30velixI thought, Asterisk 17 was too hard to setup because of all the modules, but it wasn't.
17:32.52sibiriahm it wasn't you who asked? my memory's off then
17:33.18velixsibiria: I think, that's asked quiet often. Since there isn't a user repository for Asterisk :(
17:33.22velixThere was in the past.
17:33.22sibiriabut i'm sure you can find that discussion in your scrollback. it was just the other day
17:33.41velixgood idea
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17:36.53nimbiuswell i thought i had it, kinda no.
17:37.00nimbiusso im using MessageSend with the AMI
17:37.10nimbiusand asterisk keeps telling me it cant find the endpoint on my trunk.
17:38.44nimbius: res_pjsip_messaging.c:681 msg_send: PJSIP MESSAGE - Could not find endpoint 'sip:<13107352345@mytrunk>' and no default outbound endpoint configured
17:42.59Samotnimbius: Show how you sending this with AMI
17:43.17SamotAnd the context that is trying to send this out the trunk
17:46.07nimbiusim using ami via netcat.
17:47.09nimbiusSamot: http://dpaste.com/0PBMKRZ
17:48.08SamotHrm, I think we covered this recently....
17:48.17SamotI don't mean with you I just mean this issue.
17:50.52nimbiusinteresting
17:52.06Samotpjsip:mytrunk/$1@mytrunk
17:52.29SamotSorry
17:52.37Samotpjsip:mytrunk/sip:$1@mytrunk
17:53.20nimbiusso the definition of the applications invocation has changed?
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17:54.27SamotYes, when PJSIP was introduced 6 years ago.
17:54.35SamotPJSIP can be called various ways.
17:54.45SamotUnlike Chan_SIP.
17:55.38nimbiussuccess.
17:55.57nimbiushttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+17+Application_MessageSend
17:56.10nimbiusspecifically the from definition :(
17:58.51velixAnyone with an idea, why "WaitTime" is ignored via AMI, but respected via Callfile?
18:01.57[TK]D-Fendervelix, https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+17+ManagerAction_Originate
18:02.08[TK]D-Fendervelix, I don't see that in the spec at all....
18:02.51[TK]D-Fendervelix, It has a very obvious different name for the same purpose...
18:03.02velixUh! Timeout
18:03.12[TK]D-FenderVERY FINE MANUALS!
18:03.34velixSorry, I don't have any excuse this time.
18:08.17vltHello. I found out how to originate or redirect calls from CLI. But how can I connect two channels?
18:08.40[TK]D-Fendervlt, "bridge"
18:10.04vlt[TK]D-Fender: Thank you. There's no such command. Is this version specific (1.8.10 Ubuntu here)?
18:10.30[TK]D-FenderThat is ancient garbage
18:11.13vltI know, sorry :(   Is there a way to bridge two channels on that machine?
18:12.07vltOr I'll explain my X/Y problem ...
18:12.18[TK]D-FenderThis is an AMI thing, not CLI
18:12.26[TK]D-Fenderhttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/ManagerAction_Bridge
18:12.38vlt[TK]D-Fender: Thanks, I'll have a look at it.
18:12.41[TK]D-FenderAppears it at least exists in 1.8
18:23.51Kobazoh
18:23.54Kobazspeaking of pjsip
18:24.15KobazPJSIP_HEADER i guess, instead of SipAddHeader
18:24.48Kobazseems reasonable
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18:39.41velix"Connected to Asterisk 17.3.0 currently running" <-- yeah!
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19:22.00_ganapathi_[2020-03-22 19:20:33] WARNING[1493][C-00000009]: channel.c:1086 __ast_queue_frame: Exceptionally long voice queue length queuing to Local/10001092@kstychDialer-00000005;1
19:22.27_ganapathi_am getting exceptionally long voice queue error while making every SIP call once after upgrade asterisk to 17 version
19:24.54_ganapathi_for few sec then only call initiating from sip
19:26.49SamotIs this Chan_SIP or PJSIP?
19:28.31_ganapathi_chan_sip only
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19:40.02SamotThat generally happens when the channel is deadlock or not destroyed properly. From what I recall.
19:43.24Kobazyay deadlocks
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19:56.44vlt[TK]D-Fender: I found out how to bridge (AMI) but don't get the desired result. I'll explain:
19:57.44vltI'm originating two calls: SIP/me to extension 1 and SIP/me to extension 2
19:58.20vltNow I want extension 1 and 2 bridged and close both connections to SIP/me.
19:58.39[TK]D-FenderWhy is SIP/me involved at all?
19:59.13vlt[TK]D-Fender: Both extensions require PIN entry first before I can bridge them.
19:59.13[TK]D-FenderYou seem to be including something that doesn't sound like it's important to your goal at all
19:59.26vlt[TK]D-Fender: That's my x/y, yes :D
19:59.50vltI'll prepare a CLI paste.
20:03.44vlt[TK]D-Fender: https://dpaste.org/ZTpa
20:05.31vltMy goal is to "connect" the channels behind extensions 002514@outgoing and 514@outgoing.
20:06.32vltThe latter is a local MeetMe application.
20:06.41[TK]D-FenderSIP/jones is a "phone", right?
20:07.29vlt"jones" is a gateway.
20:08.35vltThe originates to "SIP/0177...@jones" are to my mobile phone where I entered the PIN codes.
20:09.29vltSo now there are three connections via "jones", two of them to my mobile, one to the target I want to bridge to the local MeetMe.
20:09.47[TK]D-FenderI see 2 calls there, not 3
20:11.10[TK]D-Fender#1 => call your cell, then put you into a Meetme.  #2 => Call your cell AGAIN (call-waiting?) and dial out to someone else
20:11.33vltYes. Two simultaneous calls to my mobile. One of them connected to the local MeetMe, the other connected to a remote phone (via jones).
20:11.57vltYes, call on hold.
20:12.19[TK]D-FenderSo far that's you + 1 other.  When do we expect to see more?
20:13.00vlt[TK]D-Fender: I'm sorry if I fail to explain that well.
20:13.48[TK]D-FenderIf in the end it is your cell + ONE other call then I see no need for meetme.
20:13.54vltI want to "hangup" both calls to my mobile and bridge the other channels instead.
20:14.36vlt[TK]D-Fender: Others will join the MeetMe later
20:14.50[TK]D-FenderIn the end that just puts SIP/03591351399514@jones,,T") into a meetme
20:14.56[TK]D-Fenderalone
20:15.00vltPerfect.
20:15.03vltThat's my goal.
20:15.15[TK]D-FenderThen the fact of sending 2 calls to your phone sonds to be a waste
20:15.26vltI needed to enter the PIN first.
20:15.38vltOn both local and remote MeetMe.
20:16.52SamotSo you're not bridging two calls together.
20:17.04vltMaybe.
20:17.05SamotYou're dumping them into a confbridge/meetme.
20:17.15SamotIf you expect others to join this call.
20:18.02vltI'm not absolutely sure about the nomenclature here.
20:18.08SamotOK
20:18.18SamotIf you have A call B and C and want to drop A
20:18.25SamotYou have to redirecto/transfer B to C
20:18.42SamotOnce that is done, you have a call between B and C
20:18.43vltSounds good.
20:18.51SamotIf you want D to join that call later they can't.
20:19.09vltSamot: D will just dial the MeetMe room.
20:19.18SamotThen how does D talk to B and C?
20:19.33vltD talks to the MeetMe room.
20:19.40SamotAnd how does B and C get that?
20:19.42SamotDo they care?
20:19.48SamotAre they part of the call?
20:20.25vltdoes still not know what *exactly* a "call" is in this context
20:20.32Samot<PROTECTED>
20:20.39SamotTwo or more parties talking together.
20:20.48vltI'll take a step back, wait ...
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20:23.33vltWe do this for years now: Someone in the main branch picks up their local SIP phone, calls the MeetMe exten, enters the PIN, initiates a second call from that phone to a remote branch, enters the PIN and then uses their "tranfer" key to "connect" both parties they just called.
20:23.42vltWorks perfectly fine.
20:24.32vltI want to do this now from CLI/AMI because home office because covid-19 ...
20:24.59SamotOK.
20:25.01vltWhat happens when the person on the SIP phone presess "trabsfer"?
20:25.06vlt*n
20:25.14SamotIt redirects/transfers the call.
20:25.32SamotOK so you are A
20:25.42vltOk, so "bridge" might be the wrong command.
20:25.58SamotYou dial the meetme extension, you enter your PIN...
20:26.08vltok
20:26.27SamotNow are you just dialing to start the call or do you already have another call on hold?
20:26.57SamotAnd that is the call you want to connect to the remote branch?
20:27.16vltIt doesn't matter if I call the remote branch first or the local meetme. Works both ways.
20:27.30SamotLet me ask this another way
20:27.53vltSure, I really appreciate your patience :*
20:27.56SamotAre you only calling the remote branch OR the meetme (which will then connect to the remote branch) because YOU just want to talk to someone?
20:28.16SamotOr are you doing this because YOU answered a call and they said "I need to speak to X"?
20:28.27vltNeither.
20:28.52SamotThen what is the point of this?
20:29.28SamotYou're neither calling the other party directly or transfering a call to them. So why do you need a meetme and pin codes?
20:29.29vltI call a remote branche's *MeetMe* AND a local MeetMe to "connect" them.
20:29.35SamotOK
20:29.36SamotWhy?
20:30.21vltEach branchMeetMe  has up to n participants.
20:30.34vltThey all call their local MeetMe.
20:30.46SamotOK
20:30.53vltWe connect all of them in a star pattern using only one line each.
20:31.01SamotSo then B and C are actually two meetme rooms.
20:31.11vltYes.
20:31.27SamotSo let me see if I follow this now.
20:31.35vltDid you see my CLI paste?
20:31.45vlthttps://dpaste.org/ZTpa
20:31.47SamotGroup A in location A all call MeetMe A
20:31.55SamotB does the same.
20:32.06vltRight.
20:32.11SamotSomeone in Group A then calls someone in Group B
20:32.23SamotThen transfers that call into MeetMe A
20:32.30vltI'll explain to provide a better picture:
20:32.41SamotIs that close?
20:33.58vltUsually 10 minutes before a conference call, some assistent (in the main branch)'s task is to call all the other branches's MeetMe rooms, to enter each's PIN, transfer, rinse, repeat.
20:34.29vltThey themselves don't attend.
20:34.47vltTheir job is done as soon as the last transfer button was pressed.
20:35.16vltThen we have our "main" MeetMe with a handful connections each to remote MeetMe rooms.
20:35.51SamotSo why are you using MeetMe?
20:36.01vltInstead of what?
20:36.19[TK]D-FenderEasy fix Originate to the Target, upon answer Dial() a local channel with a pre-answer Gosub.  Have that local channel answer and hit the meetme, and the Gosub wait a few seconds and SendDTMF() for the pin, then allow the bridge to finish.
20:36.21[TK]D-FenderDONE.
20:36.46SamotUhm
20:36.49[TK]D-Fenderonly 2 originate and your phone is not needed period
20:36.51SamotConfgBridge.
20:36.58SamotConfBridge
20:37.07[TK]D-FenderI was looking to see if COnfBridge offered a pin-less option
20:37.15[TK]D-Fenderwasn't clear right off the instruction page.
20:37.19[TK]D-Fenderbut I was thinking of it
20:38.07SamotIt does offer a pinless option.
20:38.13[TK]D-FenderEven better then
20:38.14Samotyou just don't set them.
20:39.43vltDamn, I absolutely underestimated the difficulty of just doing the same that happens every time the transfer button is pressed from CLI/AMI.
20:39.48SamotAlso, you know, not using DAHDI for it.
20:39.53SamotSo it doesn't have a user limt
20:40.09SamotBut if you used ConfBridge you could have a single conference.
20:40.10vltuser limit?
20:40.14SamotThey they all dial into
20:40.28Samots/They/That/
20:40.56vltSamot: Insuffient external lines for all participants.
20:41.07SamotUhm
20:41.15SamotYou have PBXes at all the branches.
20:41.25SamotUse SIP to bridge them together.
20:41.33SamotYou can literally call the PBXes over SIP
20:42.37vltI know, but some branches have unreliable (for VoiP) connections.
20:43.08vltThis gets way more complicated than I had hoped.
20:43.48SamotOr you get a SIP provider.
20:43.52SamotGet a DID
20:43.58SamotRoute that to the confbridge.
20:44.01SamotDone.
20:44.16SamotThey can call the DID from where ever they are.
20:44.21vltThat's all more than I can do now in the short amount of time.
20:44.38SamotPerhaps.
20:44.41vltIf a SIP phone can transfer two calls why do I fail to do the same via CLI/AMI?
20:45.07SamotSo do all the locations have an external channel limit?
20:45.47vltSamot: Yes. I apprectiate your help. Very very much. But I'd rather not try to touch anything in this setup now.
20:46.08vltJust transfer the calls.
20:46.51SamotOK.
20:47.11SamotSo instead of having X people at A location call a local MeetMe room internally...
20:47.21vltSIP/jones-00003275 and SIP/jones-00003276 seem to bridged now.
20:47.43SamotYou now need to have X people call their office meetme room externally
20:47.50SamotOr have the PBX call them..whatever.
20:48.00SamotEither way, do you have enough external channels to do that?
20:48.44vltSamot: You mean because of more work from home?
20:49.09SamotWell I'm guessing that is why you are messing with this
20:49.15SamotEveryone is in lockdown
20:49.39SamotThe last two weeks for most of us as been "Oh shit, we need remote abilities"
20:49.47vltYes. I'll see to that that we spread (*cough*) the load on the external lines in a way that it works.
20:51.27vltThere will be people in the main branch that *could* do the job by picking up their local SIP phone but it's quite embarassing not to be able to do that.
20:51.47vltSIP/jones-00003275 and SIP/jones-00003276 seem to bridged now.
20:52.04SamotThat doesn't mean anything.
20:52.06vltAnything I could try with `cahnnel transfer`?
20:52.17SamotThose are random channels
20:52.36SamotEach channel will always be SIP/jones-xXXXXXXXXX
20:53.09vlthttps://dpaste.org/ZTpa should tell us which channel is which, shouldn't it?
20:54.19SamotThere's multiple things in there.
20:54.24Samotyou mean the show channels comand?
20:54.29SamotYes it will show you active channels.
20:54.56vltSamot: Yes, `show channels` and the "originate history" before it.
20:58.08vlttries to disable the PIN code, then originate local MeetMe to remote Meetme, then enable PIN code again
21:02.01vltWORKS!
21:04.27vlt[TK]D-Fender, Samot: Thank you for your help and patience!
21:12.15vltNo :-(
21:12.51vltAfter disabling the PIN code I managed to connect the branches using just originate.
21:13.00vltThat part works well now.
21:13.02vltBut:
21:13.41vltAfter re-enabling the PIN I can dial into the rooms without one.
21:14.12vltMaybe as long as there are members in a meetme room it will not reload its config.
21:14.37vltthinks hard
21:15.52vltMaybe I'll manage to use "bridge" to connect a call to non-PIN-protected Meetme room to another.
21:15.56vltI'll try that.
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22:48.24velixWow, now I'm confused. "Originate" doesn't work, but callfile works. The module has been loaded.
22:50.33velixNo such command 'originate'.
22:50.38velixhas it been dropped in v17 ?
22:53.13velixaaah. CHANNEL :D
22:53.17velixla la la
23:03.52DanFromUKHi. Due to the current situation, I've been asked to urgently setup a confbridge system. Is there a way for a muted participant to dial a code to seek approval to unmute?
23:04.36[TK]D-Fenderfeatures.conf + your code
23:04.40[TK]D-Fenderlike always
23:07.50DanFromUKthe feature code dialled by a non-admin could then cause interaction with an admin to approve?
23:08.13SamotNot that I'm aware of
23:08.34[TK]D-Fenderthat's the "your code" part
23:08.44[TK]D-Fendernothing "causes interaction with admin".
23:08.49[TK]D-Fenderthere is no "permission" interface
23:08.55[TK]D-FenderThat's all on you
23:09.19DanFromUKvia "my code", I could interact with the admin channel? using pure .conf syntax?
23:10.20[TK]D-Fenderthill a useless term
23:10.23[TK]D-Fenderstill*
23:10.33[TK]D-FenderYou punch a code and EXECUTE something
23:10.42[TK]D-Fenderhow you signal the "admin is up to YOU.
23:10.50[TK]D-Fenderit isn't a THING, it's an end result
23:11.14[TK]D-FenderDo you make some magic light turn on at their desk?  Do they ahve a web script you send a signal to?
23:11.31[TK]D-Fenderhow you come up with is your job
23:12.02DanFromUKmy question is, do i need to create some form of AGI code for this, or would pure extension syntax be able to deal with this type of thing?
23:12.27[TK]D-FenderWhat part of "up to you" are you not understanding?
23:12.46[TK]D-Fenderfeatures.conf is the TRIGGER
23:12.59[TK]D-FenderEverything else is up to you to think of how you signal them
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23:26.22velixYipee. Finall it's not me! "Unable to cancel schedule ID 0.  This is probably a bug (res_rtp_asterisk.c: dtls_srtp_stop_timeout_timer, line 2809)."
23:34.19DanFromUKunderstood

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