IRC log for #asterisk on 20170630

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00:12.44_root_hello
00:13.17_root_I though for a bit that I need freepbx or other gui to work with asterisk
00:13.47_root_Could some one help me for material on how to work with asterisk in terminal
00:13.51_root_thanks
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00:19.21*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.16.0 (2017/05/30), 11.25.1 (2016/12/08), Standard: 14.5.0 (2017/05/30); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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00:56.33gnomethrowerHey guys
00:56.39gnomethrowerI have a Polycom phone I'm using with Asterisk
00:56.50gnomethrowerwe have 3-digit extensions, eg, 100, 110, 111
00:57.11gnomethrowerwhen I try to transfer to anything 10* or 11* it erroneously tries to dial
00:57.14gnomethrowerbut 12* is fine
00:57.24gnomethrowermy dial-plan is such:
00:57.24gnomethrower[2-9]11|0T|011xxx.T|[0-1][2-9]xxxxxxxxx|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|[2-9]xxxT|**x.T
01:07.45SamotDo you mean 100 or do you actually mean 10*
01:07.58SamotIs the * the actual asterisk or are you just using that as a wildcard?
01:10.44gnomethrowerSamot: Using it as a wildcard
01:10.46gnomethrowersorry to be unclear
01:10.53gnomethrowerlike, extension 101, 100, 110, 120
01:11.01Samotasterisk -rvvvvvvvvvvv
01:11.06gnomethrowerI think I found a "solution"
01:11.06Samot~pb
01:11.06infoboti guess pastebin is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
01:11.14Samotshow a call this is happening on
01:11.28gnomethrowerSamot: I ended up just disabling digit map on the Polycom phones
01:11.31gnomethrowerand letting Asterisk handle it
01:11.36gnomethrowerwhich seems to work perfectly
01:12.01gnomethrowerturns out most phones in this office already had digit map turned off and those work fine
01:12.18SamotOK
01:12.29gnomethrowerThanks anyways! :)
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02:09.24dunderprotoIs it on-topic to ask help for general SIP related telephony problems in this channel?
02:10.09SamotJust ask
02:11.36dunderprotoSamot: Thanks. I was trying to set up my 2 sip clients to call each other, one on a phone and another on my laptop. Both are behind NATs so I used a stun server. I was delighted to find that it worked when the phone called the laptop (the audio was great), but not the other way around (only silence)
02:12.26dunderprotowhen the phone calls the laptop, *both* sides have good audio. But when the laptop calls the phone, *neither* side has audio
02:12.30SamotThat is a NAT issue
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02:13.13SamotLook at the firewall/router for the one that has inbound issues
02:13.59SamotA STUN server is going to clean up the SIP packet
02:14.15SamotAnd the routing once it leaves the network..
02:14.36SamotStill has to send in for new calls and thats firewall/nat
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02:21.32dunderprotoSamot: ok, thanks, I'm going to experiment with it
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02:32.19dunderprotoSamot: the one with issues allows all outgoing traffic (and associated replies) but blocks all new incoming traffic
02:32.39SamotYes, that would be a firewall/NAT issue.
02:33.03SamotWhen I say NAT I mean the actual process of the network address translation
02:33.10dunderprotoWhat ports would I need to open up for sip to work?
02:33.23SamotEither there isn't a NAT rule to handle it or the firewall isn't allowing it
02:33.29SamotI don't know.
02:33.35SamotI don't know your setup.
02:33.49SamotI don't know what is what and what you have them set to.
02:34.24dunderprotoSamot: I see. OK, I'll do some research
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03:32.46dunderprotoSamot: OK, I managed to get it to work when I disabled NAT and just plugged the phone straight into the internet
03:32.50dunderprototwo way calling, hurray
03:32.57dunderprotobut I really would like the firewall back :)
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03:35.25SamotUhm.
03:35.27SamotI wouldn't do that
03:35.29SamotAt all.
03:35.31drmessanodunderproto: Buy a Mikrotik
03:35.35SamotYour phone is exposed.
03:35.36SamotYes.
03:35.41SamotBuy a Mikrotik.
03:35.44drmessanorouterboard.com
03:36.23SamotPhones/ATAs directly on the Internet are the source of fraud more than a hacked PBX.
03:38.33dunderprotoSamot: Yeah, I definitely want a firewall
03:38.44dunderprotobut I was happy to see it at least work. So it's clearly just a firewall issue
03:38.44drmessanorouterboard.com
03:38.54drmessano^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
03:39.00drmessano!!!ONES!!!111!!!!!!
03:40.03Samotdunderproto: Two endpoints doing direct media and both are behind NAT. All audio issues are basically firewall/NAT
03:40.16SamotThere is a reason that two NAT endpoints don't do direct media.
03:40.24SamotIt's a PITA to make work consistently.
03:41.22SamotWell or codecs. Firewall/NAT/Codecs. Those are going to be the source of audio issues in cases like this.
03:42.12SamotSo the three causes of audio issue are Firewall, NAT and Codecs....
03:42.23SamotAnd poor bandwidth...
03:42.43SamotSo the FOUR causes of audio issues are Firewall, NAT, Codecs AND poor bandwidth...
03:43.10SamotAre you understanding?
03:43.16SamotBecause if not....
03:43.20Samotgets the comfy chair...
03:43.28dunderprotoSamot: sorry, I went to get some food :)
03:43.39SamotAll of that was a waste.
03:43.43SamotThanks.
03:43.44dunderprotoI've not had any problems with codecs/bandwidth
03:43.57dunderprotoSamot: No, I'm definitely listening, my irc client has got history
03:44.03dunderprotojust firewall/nat
03:44.20SamotNobody expects just firewall/nat...
03:44.44dunderprotoSamot: Sorry, please don't give up on me, I definitely listen to your input. Every bit of help is appreciated
03:45.24SamotStill nothing?
03:45.25SamotWow.
03:45.27SamotOK.
03:45.45Samotshould have gone with Holy Grail
03:46.08dunderproto? I don't quite follow
03:46.34SamotI was paraphrasing The Spanish Inquisition from Monty Python
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03:49.46dunderprotodrmessano: thanks for the link
03:50.17Samot"Nobody expects the SPANISH INQUISITION!! Our MAIN weapon is fear and surprise! No, our TWO weapons are fear, surprise and ruthless efficiency....our *THREE* main weapons are fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope......"
03:52.43SamotOh Monty Python, I don't think there will ever be a chemistry like yours again. Some have come damn close but no....
03:54.56SamotOf course being comprised of basically all first generation post-WWII Brits was a lot of the fuel.
03:55.25SamotAnd one American.
03:55.49SamotWho I have no doubt did A LOT of drugs.
03:55.59SamotLook at his animations....
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04:50.32keannehi, is asterisk capable of using gsm modems as gateway for outgoing calls? my gsm modem is wavecom multiband 900e 1800 as identified by gammu
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05:16.14dunderprotoSamot: Thanks for your help. I got it to work by enabling ICE in addition to the stun server. Now both are behind firewalls and still connecting
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08:03.53irc08153Asterisk 10.9.0, register => "number":"password"@sip.provider:5064/number~120, but asterisks keeps sending after reload/restart still to port 5060 (https://pastebin.ca/3836866) Is this a known bug?
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08:30.00DaRockHi guys
08:30.30UncleKiwiit doesnt matter what your name is
08:30.34DaRockCan someone please put me out of my misery and tell me how the hell to get rid of stdexten?
08:31.40DaRockI'm trying to dial using alphanumeric characters, so dial 'user', but for some damned reason it always defaults to some screwed up stdexten macro
08:32.01DaRockI've removed stdexten completely, and it still attempts it
08:32.30DaRocknothing on google is helping or clear on a resolution for that matter
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08:40.11seik0Hi! I have asterisk 1.8 (I know what you think). Have success sip register to sip-provider, but upon register peer is not show in "sip show peers" and incoming calls a rejected with "No matching peer found". But if I do "sip show peer my_peer load" (to load this specific peer), then everything works.
08:41.58seik0I found some issue: https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-12991, maybe this is the case. But, on the other hand, everything works on another asterisk with same version and same sip-provider and same sip-configuration (except, that problem asterisk is over nat, and ok asterisk is not).
08:43.39seik0but in specified issue workaround is to user "type = friend" and it does not work for me
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09:02.37irc08153Asterisk 10.9.0, register => "number":"password"@sip.provider:5064/number~120, but asterisks keeps sending after reload/restart still to port 5060 (https://pastebin.ca/3836866) Is this a known bug?
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10:55.17irc08153Asterisk 10.9.0, register => "number":"password"@sip.provider:5064/number~120, but asterisks keeps sending after reload/restart still to port 5060 (https://pastebin.ca/3836866) Is this a known bug?
10:58.33wdoekesirc08153: you cannot reasonably expect us to look up the status of bugs in long-EOL non-LTS versions. try a recent non-EOL version and check if it's fixed there. if it's not, please file a bug report.
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11:08.28irc08153simply could have been that someone here have the knowledge and was also hit by this bug
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11:52.54DaRockso no idea why stdexten would be called without actually being in the dialplan? Or with other extension patterns to catch the dialled extension?
11:53.41filehave you looked at "dialplan show" ?
11:53.44fileit'll tell you where things come from
11:55.21DaRockI have... it simply doesn't exist in extensions.conf (at all), dialplan show doesn't bring it up, but if I dial an extension as 'user' it errors with some screwed up call to the stdexten macro
11:55.55fileI'd suggest a pastebin of the console output and the dialplan show then...
11:56.05DaRockso I ran a dialplan show "user"@ and suddenly the call appears as priority 1!
11:56.11DaRockwhy?
11:57.15DaRockand I have tried patterns, even a straight exten => 'user'
11:58.03DaRockthe only issue I can possibly see is if I adjust my priority for the pattern to 1 - but why is this even necessary?
11:58.23SamotDaRock: Let's see this dialplan.
11:58.25Samot~pb
11:58.25infobotwell, pastebin is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
11:58.27fileyou're asking questions without giving me the needed information to be able to answer them
11:59.56DaRockwell mainly the only thing to say is that this stdexten is a freaking poltergeist or something, keeps showing up unexpectedly
12:00.52DaRockactually... what part do I show here? dialplan show? or extensions.conf?
12:00.56fileboth
12:00.58fileand console output
12:01.21SamotI want to see whats in extensions.conf that you wrote for this
12:03.18DaRockhave any of you guys still have stdexten context in your dialplan?
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12:04.59DaRockso console output: https://pastebin.com/AxGkWx85
12:05.43SamotNo.
12:05.48SamotThat's not your dialplan.
12:05.51SamotThat's the debug.
12:06.02Samot8:01:24 AM <Samot> I want to see whats in extensions.conf that you wrote for this
12:06.12fileSamot: I asked for everything
12:06.13DaRockI know - its the console output asked for
12:06.22DaRockstill working on dialplan
12:06.32filethe console output shows what Asterisk did, dialplan show is how Asterisk interpreted the config, and extensions.conf is the underlying config
12:06.35fileso you get a full view
12:06.37DaRockthat was just the quickest
12:09.08SamotWell then..I'm going to the store.
12:09.13SamotNo sense in waiting around..
12:15.49DaRockdialplan: https://pastebin.com/wKjt6C6U
12:16.23DaRocksorry - lots of private stuff in there that can't go blowing about the net. Surely you understand that?
12:17.42fileyour configuration for the user extensions in the default context is calling the 'stdexten' subroutine.
12:20.51fileyou aren't using users.conf are you?
12:21.42fileif so, it will automatically do things such as putting that into the created dialplan for dialing the user
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12:26.11DaRockextensions.conf: https://pastebin.com/PzzhDBhQ
12:26.32DaRockwhere does it do or even say that? docs I mean
12:27.09DaRockand as such how do adjust that behaviour - not saying that its necessarily bad either
12:27.09fileI have no idea, users.conf is over 10 years old and hasn't been used in most of those years
12:27.19fileit's not maintained or recommended to be used
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12:27.51fileit is hardcoded in, it will either use that if "hasvoicemail" is set or otherwise it will add a priority that does a Dial()
12:27.53DaRockwhy? its still in docs, and how else do you maintain users across services like sip and iax?
12:28.11fileyou create them in the respective config files for each piece of functionality?
12:28.45DaRockso no central user system? Isn't that what users.conf was even for?
12:29.01filethat was the goal of it but in practice it didn't work out
12:29.31DaRockso when did that memo come out? :-)
12:29.40SamotYears ago
12:29.45SamotLiterally.
12:29.50DaRockno reference?
12:30.11SamotIt's something that's been like this for a decade.
12:30.14filethe code is still there and it works, but you are locked into how it does things and it won't be added to any subsequent stuff
12:31.02DaRockthere's literally no indication of that in the docs
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12:31.46fileit predates when we pushed hard on documentation
12:31.57DaRockthat is really bizarre.... well at least now I know. Thanks
12:32.52DaRockreally?? How are you supposed to learn this stuff? The docs even show user.conf. I hadn't even started this 10 years ago
12:33.02SamotDaRock: It works.
12:33.05SamotIt can be used.
12:33.16SamotIt's just not by the average person using Asterisk.
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12:33.32SamotIt was a poor solution to a problem 10 years ago.
12:33.36DaRockbut ti can apparently screw things up and leave you banging your head for days :-)
12:33.41SamotBut some still like it and it works.
12:33.49DaRockit
12:33.59SamotWell it shouldn't be used for non-"expert" installs.
12:34.10SamotIn the grand scheme it's more of a PITA then the normal way
12:35.16SamotAlso,  what version of Asterisk are you running?
12:35.35DaRockwell thanks guys. At least I know where things are at now. Perhaps some notation in the docs might be more helpful ;-)
12:35.54SamotWhat notation?
12:35.56DaRockI'm running 11 atm - I have to update, I know
12:37.20DaRockWhile I'm at it, is there any good tuts on using asterisk with webrtc? I haven't seen much and in the docs it just points to third party libraries and apps
12:37.36filedefine "using asterisk with webrtc"
12:37.51filewe have a wiki page for setting it up and using a web based SIP client as an example
12:38.16fileWebRTC itself is just a tool though
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12:39.46DaRockHow would I create my own webapp using webrtc in a browser to connect to asterisks webrtc service?
12:40.30fileyou'd presumably use a library and build a webapp around it
12:41.06fileI'm not aware of any tutorials for that though, the information and the pieces are all out there though
12:41.12DaRockis the api standard? The docs asterisk don't go into too much detail other than using an app to use it - not what calls are required for operation
12:41.40DaRockand indications are in the docs that not all libs will work
12:41.55fileAsterisk doesn't care, to it you are speaking SIP
12:42.04filethe rest is on the web side
12:42.11DaRockthats what I thought might be happening
12:42.44SamotWebRTC is just a softphone in a browser.
12:43.01fileSamot: that's what a lot of people make of it
12:43.02SamotUsing web sockets for signaling.
12:43.03DaRockbut I'm not 100% sure thats what the browser webrtc is expecting
12:43.13SamotWebRTC is a term
12:43.20SamotIt's not really "a thing"
12:43.30fileit's a Javascript API and then SDP
12:43.34Samot^^^
12:43.34DaRockactually its an api
12:43.58filethe SDP we produce, when Asterisk is properly configured, works
12:44.00SamotWebRTC has some maturing to do.
12:44.24SamotCuz there is no standard.
12:44.32DaRockit seems webrtc works well, but it might not be with asterisk
12:44.43SamotI use it with Asterisk, works fine.
12:44.51SamotNot that much, not a lot of call for it...
12:44.53DaRockdid you make the app?
12:44.57SamotNo
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12:45.21DaRockwell then... it might work with one app, and not another
12:45.24SamotBut again, browsers are one of the biggest problems with WebRTC.
12:45.31filesighs
12:45.32DaRockpossibly
12:45.41filethe information that is exchanged is SDP
12:45.42SamotChrome has broken quite a few WebRTC apps.
12:45.50filewhich the browser consumes and provides
12:45.53DaRockbut clarity on what works with asterisk will certainly help
12:45.54SamotYes, Asterisk handles the SDP
12:46.00SamotIT works.
12:46.08filethe SDP we produce and accept works.
12:46.16fileand in order for an app to use WebRTC, it has to do that
12:46.22Samot^^^^^^
12:46.23DaRockso just send the sdp?
12:46.25fileit has to give us the SDP and it has to accept the SDP we provide and give it to the browser
12:46.36SamotAnd well signaling as well.
12:46.47fileWebRTC has no defined signaling method, so some people wrote SIP stacks in Javascript to fill that part
12:46.58fileAsterisk allows that by accepting it on the Websocket transport
12:47.12DaRockso why is webrtc considered separate to sip in asterisk then?
12:47.26DaRockscratch that
12:47.27SamotWhat do you mean?
12:47.33SamotIts not.
12:47.43fileit's not separate, but it requires additional configuration because WebRTC mandates certain features
12:47.55SamotLike DTLS.
12:47.59fileand ICE.
12:48.01fileand RTCP-MUX.
12:48.02DaRockso thats the only diff - instead of 5060, it uses wss
12:48.02SamotYup.
12:48.10fileyes.
12:48.21SamotThe port has nothing to do with the protocol.....
12:48.43DaRockyeah I know... jsut came to mind :-)
12:48.46DaRockjust
12:49.48DaRockthats what's been throwing me - the wss/sip connection diff
12:49.55SamotNo.
12:49.58SamotSIP is SIP
12:50.07DaRockwould be useful to see some sample code
12:50.10SamotSIP can talk on UDP, TCP, TLS, WS, WSS
12:50.16filecode for what exactly?
12:50.22[TK]D-Fender~users.conf
12:50.22infobot[~users.conf] users.conf is a flaming pile of sh1t that takes the fine control of several perfectly usable asterisk config files and reduces them to the lowest common denominator and makes your system behave like a "toaster grade" PBX system.
12:50.24filethe Javascript SIP clients provide examples
12:50.25[TK]D-Fender:)
12:50.38filehttps://tryit.jssip.net there's one for example
12:51.19DaRockfor a webapp webrtc connection - not the media grabbing stuff, but just what would allow asterisk and browser to communicate effectively
12:51.36DaRocktoo tired to type apparently ;-)
12:51.38SamotLike any other client...
12:51.50SamotIt sends requests to the host you define...
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12:52.56filethere's nothing from an Asterisk perspective that would really be useful for us to provide, as we don't care provided it's SIP
12:53.01SamotHonestly, I haven't gotten a single shred of interest shown for WebRTC by anyone over the years.
12:53.08SamotAs far as the average client goes.
12:54.12SamotWebRTC JS APIs have broken do to issues with browsers supporting the needed pieces for WebRTC
12:54.27SamotI believe Chrome had issues with the RTP-MUX stuff for a while..
12:55.04SamotThere's no "WebRTC" standard for browsers.
12:55.12SamotThey aren't being designed with WebRTC in mind.
12:55.25fileit's gotten better...
12:55.35SamotYes.
12:55.36DaRockso intial connect to asterisk using wss://, usual sip signals, sdp, then a separate connection for rtp? That about it?
12:55.36SamotIt has
12:55.41SamotLike I said, it needs to mature some more
12:55.49filethey're still using SDP attributes which aren't in the specs last I checked
12:55.54fileusing and requiring, in some instances
12:56.24SamotWebRTC will be something if all the browsers got behind it and standardized for it.
12:56.35SamotBut again, WebRTC isn't flooding the market really..
12:56.42DaRockis it still under living standard or something? or is it now in the actual standard ecma?
12:56.42fileDaRock: it's UDP so connectionless for RTP - but yes
12:56.58DaRocktls for the signaling then?
12:57.05SamotWS/WSS
12:57.07DaRocktcp I mean
12:57.16SamotWeb Socket or Web Socket Secure
12:57.33DaRockyep got  that :-D
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12:57.49DaRocklike I said, too tired to type :-D
12:58.53DaRockWell thanks guys, I finally have something solid to work with
12:59.16SamotWebRTC is decent, but like I said..not a lot of demand for it.
12:59.36DaRockI know - too many scared away from it at this stage
12:59.44fileit still gets used, just without people realizing it
12:59.55SamotWell yes.
12:59.58fileit's not just audio/video, but also data
13:00.00DaRockI think I better get some sleep....
13:00.39DaRocka lot of chats for web support, fb, google, etc... whiteboarding, screen sharing, vnc
13:00.52DaRockstill hasn't peaked yet
13:00.59SamotOh hey file....
13:01.05filemoo
13:01.12SamotI got an email from one of the freelancer sites..
13:01.40SamotSome guy offered me $200 to rewrite the Asterisk Conference app to do video conferences and wallboard sharing...
13:01.48SamotTWO HUNDRED DOLLARS?!!?!
13:01.48filecute
13:01.59filewe're already working on that
13:02.04SamotThat's what I said.
13:02.26SamotPlus..
13:02.29filethe core and now PJSIP support multiple streams, as well as ConfBridge for SFU, working on the WebRTC side of things
13:02.34SamotTWO HUNDRED DOLLARS?!?!?!?!
13:02.42fileyeah....
13:02.50SamotThat's like 4 hours of work.
13:03.08fileI wish
13:03.14SamotNo.
13:03.16SamotI mean for me
13:03.21SamotThat's what $200 covers.
13:03.22Samot4 hours.
13:03.26fileoh
13:03.28filewell, yes
13:03.41SamotRedoing the conf app and video stuff..
13:03.45SamotWaaay more than 4 hours
13:03.50SamotI mean at least 6 right?
13:03.52Samot:)
13:04.02fileadds stuff up
13:04.11file2 people 3-4 months?
13:04.20SamotOh yeah, I totally believe that
13:04.44SamotAnd that's if nothing other pulls at them..
13:04.59SamotAnd there aren't other projects or issues that leak into their time.
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13:08.01filedisregarding the video side of it, the core work brings some nice possibilities to the mix
13:08.14fileproper stream changing/adding/removing is a nice thing
13:08.25SamotScreenshare? Wallboard?
13:08.29filethe foundation is there to actually allow the codec negotiation that people want
13:09.00fileie: remote side answers with a set of codecs, that could now easily get propagated to the caller and reflect in the answer to them
13:09.08SamotWell I'll keep you update on the new project for later this year.
13:09.26fileor if someone turns on video we can reinvite to add the video stream to the other side
13:09.39SamotHave to do Property Management System integration and there's nothing for Asterisk.
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13:10.43SamotGoing to focus on the Mitel SX 2000 API and the Micros Fidelio API/protocol...
13:12.16SamotLuckily most of the stuff PMS had before as standard many don't use anymore. Call Rating, Mini-Bar charges, etc.
13:12.25fileaye
13:12.36SamotThey want to be able to "checkin/checkout" users, 911 alerts and wake up calls.
13:12.53SamotThe checkin/checkout is where I'd have to go in and clear the VM, vm settings, etc, etc.
13:13.07SamotDump any MWI..
13:13.44SamotAnything that works with Asterisk right now requires middleware and some of it can get costly.
13:14.19SamotSince it's all Windows based.
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13:18.40Samot9:09:03 AM F<@file> ie: remote side answers with a set of codecs, that could now easily get propagated to the caller and reflect in the answer to them <-- Wait... so I can ext 100 and send my codecs in the Offer and when they Answer I'll get to see what they answer with?
13:18.49SamotAnd choose the one I want to match with?
13:19.29filethe foundation for it is now there
13:19.33SamotNice.
13:19.34fileit hasn't been done, but it's now not bad to do so
13:19.40SamotFor the web stuff?
13:19.51filethe multistream stuff isn't strictly for web
13:20.21SamotWell there would have to be a widget or something right?
13:20.21filethe TLDR is that streams are now reflected internally, and events occur when they change/get accepted/etc
13:20.31SamotIf I called from my phone...
13:20.51SamotHow could I select the codec I wanted from the Answer? Would that be a widget or something that popups?
13:20.52fileoh, I may have misunderstand you
13:20.57SamotOK.
13:21.20SamotI get that using a web conference or UI to make the call can give you codecs you want for audio/video...
13:21.30SamotI was just thinking it be nice for phones too.
13:21.38fileAlice offer of ULAW/G722 into Asterisk, Asterisk calls device 'Bob' and offers ULAW/G722, Bob answers with 'G722' only, Asterisk could (with more effort), send back 'G722' only in the answer to Alice
13:21.42fileright now it'd send back ULAW/G722
13:22.05SamotOh I see what you are saying.
13:22.18fileonce an answer occurs you'd have to do a reinvite to change, but that is also now possible
13:22.21SamotAsterisk can filter out the junk..
13:22.40SamotThat's still nice.
13:22.47fileit's two different approaches - one is the "I just want stuff to work even if it means transcoding" and the other is "I want to avoid transcoding at all costs"
13:22.58SamotPeople never mess with their codecs and always sent 10,0000 at once
13:23.12SamotOut of order...
13:23.14Samotblah blah blah
13:23.23SamotThis could help with that a lot.
13:23.25fileAsterisk is presently "I just want stuff to work" which is why you encounter scenarios where it is transcoding when it could really probably reinvite and get away with not transcoding
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13:23.48filethe knowledge of that just wasn't in the core and accessible, and there was no interface to request such a thing
13:24.01SamotSo basically, try not to transcode if possible but transcode if needed
13:24.33fileyeah, the knowledge is now present to be more intelligent so it's possible ^_^
13:24.42SamotThat would be nice.
13:24.46fileas I said though using the knowledge hasn't been done yet
13:24.58SamotSomeone's gotta be the first.
13:25.01SamotGo for it
13:33.14VTheThinkerI might be a little off-topic, but in case you know how I can solve this: I have an Openvox device http://www.openvox.cn/pub/manuals/old/English/VS-GW1600-20G%20User%20Manual.pdf with Asterisk installed; I performed a System Update and a System Reboot and now I cannot sign in anymore. I have the configuration backup since I downloaded it before upgrading... I tried some default credentials (admin/admin, admin/empty) but they do
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13:40.04SamotVTheThinker: You're contacting them.
13:40.11SamotIt's their appliance, their setup.
13:49.32VTheThinkerthe device is not at my office, it's at my client's offfice... and he';s not at the office right now. I guess he could solve it when he's there, right?
13:49.45VTheThinkerbut I will contact openvox anyway
13:50.51SamotWe can't help with it.
13:51.27VTheThinkerok, thanks
13:51.41SamotSorry, it's an appliance you can't log into..
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14:09.09VTheThinkerSamot do you mean it cannot be solved at all? It should have some default credentials...
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14:09.14BoBeR182Hello!
14:09.35SamotNo, I mean asking about it here isn't where you should be asking about it.
14:09.37BoBeR182I was wondering what the minimum requirements for a running an asterisk server are
14:10.07SamotBoBer182: Depends on what it will be doing. How many calls, users, other things...
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14:10.40BoBeR1821 user
14:10.40VTheThinkera, ok..
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14:10.43BoBeR182one call at a time
14:11.08BoBeR182maybe up to 2 users during peak hours
14:11.18SamotA 1 core 1GB RAM will do it
14:11.25BoBeR182VPS is fine?
14:11.29Samotyuo
14:11.31Samotyup
14:11.45BoBeR1821GB ram free needed, or up to 1GB ram?
14:12.05SamotA 1 CPU x 1GB RAM VM will do it
14:12.27BoBeR182cool cool, do you know when that server might get overloaded?
14:12.29BoBeR18210users
14:12.30BoBeR182100?
14:12.42SamotDepends on what you are doing.
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14:12.57BoBeR182could you give me some examples?
14:12.58SamotHow many calls, queues, playback, recordings...
14:13.08Samotvideo
14:13.21BoBeR182No video, strictly Calling
14:13.22SamotJust like any type of system, stuff that's going to take resources..
14:13.49SamotYou can get away with about 10 users if its just calls.
14:13.59BoBeR182lovely
14:14.18BoBeR182Thank you for the help, is it worth setting up asterisk normally
14:14.24BoBeR182or just grabbing the Live CD?
14:14.40SamotAll depends..
14:14.55SamotIf you've never done this and just are looking for a PBX solution for a couple phones...
14:15.01SamotGo get FreePBX
14:16.15BoBeR182just reading about that now...
14:16.24BoBeR182I have 3 DIDs
14:16.34BoBeR182but when I do my outbound calls I want them all from the same number
14:16.48BoBeR182does FreePBX support setting the caller ID?
14:16.55SamotYes.
14:17.06SamotIt's a GUI based distro using Asterisk.
14:17.12igcewielingBoBeR182: Are they analog lines?
14:17.17BoBeR182Is it more resource heavy
14:17.21SamotNo.
14:17.23BoBeR182igcewieling, no SIP
14:17.50igcewielingBoBeR182:  Good.
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14:20.30[TK]D-Fender<Samot> You can get away with about 10 users if its just calls. <- I had 30 users on a 3ghz 1-core Xeon w/ 2 gb easy
14:21.13SamotProbably could...
14:21.20SamotNot saying it's not possible.
14:21.30SamotBut it's two users now.
14:21.31[TK]D-FenderBoBeR182, Depends on your provider.  Most plans let you set whatever you want.  Some may let youset from a fixed list you may have to provide them.  Other plans treat each "line" as a separate service with no rights to change the #, etc
14:21.42[TK]D-FenderSamot, Yeah, he's more than fine.
14:21.45SamotI think 1 CPU 1GB RAM is fine.
14:21.59[TK]D-Fenderan rPi can handle around 4 calls or so from what I've heard
14:22.02BoBeR182Cool cool
14:22.11BoBeR182I'll have it probably in a VM
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14:22.56VTheThinkerSamot anyway, do you know any irc channel where I can ask about that? somehting more general on this type of devices...
14:23.27SamotIs there #openvox?
14:23.34SamotThis is an OpenVox appliance....
14:23.49VTheThinkerno, they donn't have a channel
14:23.57SamotThis is an appliance they built..
14:24.07SamotWhat it does? Don't know.
14:24.18SamotIf you can't access it, asking here isn't the right place.
14:25.21SamotYou'll have to go on their site and look for their support channels.
14:25.26SamotWhatever they maybe...
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15:53.02kchehabhi how to store  cancel call in asterisk cdrdb
15:53.24kchehabasteriskcdrdb
15:53.49kchehabas  if i send a call then cancel ,the call will have no record ...
15:54.02kchehabAsterisk 11.19.0
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16:06.12kchehabhow to set  Log unanswered calls:       No    to be  Log unanswered calls:       Yes
16:07.08[TK]D-Fendercdr.conf
16:17.30kchehabyes i find it 10x
16:18.52kchehab[TK]D-Fender this should log in asteriskcdrdb    cdr table  or cel table ?
16:19.30kchehabthe cancled call as i set it to yes and it show  enable , but still the cancel call is not presented in cdr  table
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19:20.06Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: meep
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19:41.48Kobazsooooo
19:41.55Kobazi'm having a weird nat problem
19:42.29Kobazpeer, nat=force_rport,comedia
19:42.37Kobazthat's all fine and dandy
19:43.09Kobaz[2017-06-30 15:25:47.951] Peer audio RTP is at port 192.168.250.29:2230           [2017-06-30 15:25:47.951] Transmitting (NAT) to 10.20.1.22:1024:
19:43.18Kobazi'll be pasting up the full sip debug in a sec... buuut
19:43.24Kobazwhat the hell is going on
19:43.45Kobazasterisk knows the peer is NAT'd.  it is sending NAT'd sip.  but not handling NAT on the rtp side!
19:44.07KobazPeer audio RTP is supposed to be  10.20.1.22:2230
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19:58.36salviadudKobaz, what is your sip peer?
19:59.07Kobaz10.20.1.22
19:59.17salviadudNot what IP, what is it
19:59.20salviaduda sip phone
19:59.23salviadudsoftphone
19:59.24Kobazoh
19:59.31Kobazthe 10.20.1.22 is a vpn/router
19:59.34Kobazand then behind that's a polycom 331
20:00.11salviadudso, the polycom is behind that firewall, it registers with asterisk, but no audio
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20:00.52Kobazyeah
20:00.53Kobazone way audio
20:01.29Kobazno audio from the server to the client/phone
20:01.40Kobazsince asterisk is using 192.168.250.29:2230
20:01.46Kobazwhich is the subnet *behind* the vpn
20:01.56Kobazbut nat is enabled, soooo
20:02.01Kobazit shouldn't be using that ip
20:02.02salviadudwhat about rtp.conf
20:02.44Kobazwhat about it?  it's pretty basic, just my local port range
20:03.12salviadudjust a checklist
20:03.35Kobazyeah yeah
20:03.49salviadudwhat version of asterisk is it?
20:03.50Kobazreally nothing fancy.  rtpstart=16000  rtpend=17000
20:03.56Kobazbut that has nothing to do with this leg of the call
20:03.58Kobazthis is rtp -> phone
20:04.09Kobazthe phone/gw's local rtp is  10.20.1.22:2230
20:04.14Kobaz1.8 hehe, yeah it's old
20:04.29salviadudeven that shouldn't matter too much
20:04.40salviadudbut would it kill you to upgrade to 11.25.1 at least?
20:05.02salviadudI'd try it with pjsip
20:05.05drmessanoThen what?
20:05.25Kobazi can't
20:05.43Kobazon this box, 11.anything the performance is awful and basically nukes the box
20:05.44salviadudhave you done a set sip debug on to see what's going on?
20:05.49Kobazyeah plenty of sip debug
20:05.52Kobazthat's from the sip debug
20:05.55Kobazlemme paste the whole thing
20:06.06lorsungcuKobaz: *13 performs worse than 1.8?
20:06.07drmessanowaits for "Did you reboot.. 2 or 3 times"
20:06.16lorsungcusomehow i seriously doubt that
20:06.51Kobazlorsungcu: don't know yet, i haven't migrated our platform to anything newer than 11
20:07.21lorsungcuKobaz: 11 is EOL this year
20:07.25lorsungcuyou should probably consider that
20:07.52Kobazhttps://pastebin.com/XZMpikJR
20:07.56Kobazoh it's definitely on the list
20:08.00Kobazit's just a 100 hour project
20:08.17lorsungcuputting it off won't change that
20:08.19lorsungcu:p
20:08.23Kobazhah yeap
20:08.29Kobazanyway so you have your fun stuff here
20:08.31KobazINVITE sip:6863@192.168.250.29 SIP/2.0
20:08.38Kobazand nat=yes on this peer
20:09.39Kobaz[2017-06-30 15:25:47.951] set_destination: set destination to 192.168.250.29:5060
20:09.55drmessanoWhat are your localnet settings?
20:09.56Kobazit's using the wrong destination. despite being instructed otherwise
20:09.58Kobazthat's the problem
20:09.59Kobazit's in there
20:10.04Kobazscroll down a bit
20:12.22drmessanoYeah nothing seems off there
20:12.37Kobazthat's what i thought
20:12.38Kobazyeap
20:12.47Kobazthis started happening like a week ago
20:12.59drmessanoI never cared for 1.8.. it always seemed like Asterisk's college experimental era
20:13.04Kobazhaha
20:13.07drmessanoLike dudes or chicks, didn't matter
20:13.40drmessano11.x era it had to get a real job
20:14.58lorsungcuKobaz: sip show peer ?
20:15.26Kobaz6863/6863                  10.20.1.22                               D   N             1027     OK (63 ms)
20:15.47lorsungcusip show peer 6863
20:16.45Kobazhttps://pastebin.com/PAWPATwr
20:17.07Kobaz<PROTECTED>
20:17.19Kobaznot sure why but 1.8 doesn't spit out the value of comedia
20:18.06lorsungcuwhat is it actually set to in the peer? just yes, right?
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20:18.16Kobazi've tried both =yes
20:18.23Kobazand =force_rport,comedia
20:18.30Kobazgenerally on 1.8 i just use yes and it always works
20:18.31Kobaznever had a problem
20:18.37lorsungcuiirc thats what it sohuld be
20:18.42Kobazyeah
20:18.42lorsungcu=yes
20:20.20salviadudremembers 2010
20:20.51salviadudThat's how old 1.8 is if you put into account when it was released.
20:21.22Kobazhehe
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20:25.22Kobazhey [TK]D-Fender
20:26.41drmessanosalviadud: Are you the "Captain Obvious" guy in your circle of people?
20:26.45drmessanoAsking for a friend
20:27.34salviadudNot really, I just have this philosophy that states "never expect a different result, trying the same thing"
20:28.00[TK]D-FenderI used to be "Captain Obvious" until I got my promotion to "Major Buzzkill"...
20:28.09Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: soooo wanna do some sips?
20:32.45igcewielingGeneral Disarray  8-|
20:34.51Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: mind taking a look at a sip issue?
20:35.12[TK]D-FenderYou know the drill...
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20:35.19Kobazhttps://pastebin.com/XZMpikJR
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20:40.02Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: sooooo
20:40.11Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: why is rtp -> 192.168.250.29
20:40.19Kobazeven though NAT is enabled/used
20:41.37[TK]D-FenderFULL call
20:41.48Kobazthat is the full call setup
20:41.55Kobazthat's the asterisk dialplan, and the sip invite/ok/etc
20:45.12[TK]D-FenderFIRST damn leg <----
20:45.20Kobazwhy? it's not related
20:45.30Kobazthe problem is media is sending to 192.168.250.0
20:45.44Kobazthe first leg works perfectly
20:45.58Kobazi can show it to you if you really want to, but it's just call setup between a soft phone and asterisk
20:46.11Kobazand media is flowing perfectly there
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20:58.59Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: any idea?
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21:13.35Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: it looks like asterisk is not respecting nat=yes on the RTP
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22:00.22Kobaz[TK]D-Fender: poke :)
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22:56.16kchehabi cant store the cancel transaction into asteriskcdr db , i set cdr.conf it unanswered = yes   (  Logging:                    Enabled)
22:56.57kchehabis there a way to save the cancel 487 Request Terminated |     in cdr ??
23:00.39[TK]D-Fenderthat is a SIP message
23:00.58[TK]D-Fendernothing about that says WHAT the request was or if it was even rlated to a call
23:01.12[TK]D-FenderYou haven't described the call being placed or shown it yet
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23:30.49kchehaball signalling are ok just the cdr issue
23:43.55kchehabcall go to [h@dialter:1
23:44.04kchehabas i call it from another contect
23:44.10kchehabcontect
23:44.15kchehabcontext
23:45.28kchehabi will check hangupcause :)
23:52.44kchehabthe hangupcause is always 0

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