IRC log for #asterisk on 20130916

00:00.53j4jackjChannelZ: do you remember G.FSH?
00:00.58j4jackjit was a fun joke
00:02.38j4jackjIt's actually implemented in G729b
00:03.08PenguinDoes it require an additional license?
00:08.32j4jackjPenguin: a-yup. I don't use 729.
00:10.13PenguinI didn't know -- I always disable the G.FSH extension before I compile G.729.
00:16.17j4jackjPenguin: G729 requires the license, G.Fsh just uses that license.
00:16.21j4jackjSorry for any confusion.
00:16.30PenguinI see.
00:18.49j4jackjG.fsh itself MAY also require a license depending on whether the codec itself has VAD.
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00:24.51j4jackjYOU GOT PRANKED until I reverse classed that...
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01:22.24raidghost<PROTECTED>
01:22.24raidghost[2013-09-16 03:20:44] WARNING[668][C-00000003]: channel.c:5956 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'A2B'
01:22.24raidghost013-09-16 03:20:44] WARNING[668][C-00000003]: app_dial.c:2437 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'A2B' (cause 66 - Channel not implemented)
01:22.47raidghostHow to fix this ANNOYING errormessage. Its the only thing that holding me from make a outbound call
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01:23.50[TK]D-Fender<PROTECTED>
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01:24.02[TK]D-FenderWhat would give you the impression that it exists?
01:24.09[TK]D-Fenderthat is not a channel technology
01:24.40[TK]D-FenderWould not appear you are paying attention to what you are dialing
01:24.50raidghostBeen using soon 18 hours on this annoying crap. Would be nice if we could solve it before im thinking of going to bed.
01:25.34[TK]D-FenderLook at what you are dialaing and realize that that is not a valid tech.
01:25.46WIMPyMaybe you should find out whay you try to do?
01:26.20raidghostSo i should use IAX2 instead of sip?
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01:26.37[TK]D-Fenderraidghost: you aren't SPECIFYING SIP
01:26.48[TK]D-Fenderraidghost: lok at the format of your dial command.
01:26.54WIMPyYou should use something that exists instead of "a2b".
01:27.05[TK]D-Fenderraidghost: You put the word "A2B" where a TECHNOLOGY belongs
01:27.11raidghostNO i didnt
01:27.22raidghostIt says SIP in my a2billing trunk settings
01:27.23[TK]D-Fender[21:22]raidghost[2013-09-16 03:20:44] WARNING[668][C-00000003]: channel.c:5956 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'A2B' <- oh hell yes.
01:27.44raidghostI dont know where this A2B F* thing comes from
01:27.45[TK]D-Fenderthat message is not lying.  Asterisk was told to dial(A2B/SOMETHING)
01:27.50[TK]D-FenderIts your server
01:28.54raidghostOk. So the A2B thing i dont know where is. Is somewhere in my configs
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01:39.40raidghostLooking for s in from-sip-external (domain sip.myprovider.com)
01:39.59nam3l3zzhello people
01:40.14raidghosta normal message? or is this "s" thingy supposed to not be there
01:40.49[TK]D-Fenderraidghost: taht looks like a call from somewhere you registered to
01:48.43raidghostNeeh. Its time for some hours rest. [TK]D-Fender: Thanks for help out troublershooting
01:48.51[TK]D-Fenderraidghost: and it would go to "s" because you didn't tell them to send to something else by specifying the return exten in your REGISTER statement
01:51.59raidghostBedtime. BBL
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02:31.51mohadibhello
02:33.37mohadibI have a sip trunk form didlogic with two DIDs. I am seeing reject messages from asterisk from that trunk. The rejects are to non existant extensions, coming from an ip in Palestinian.
02:34.19mohadibI dont really understand why or how this is happening, I'm pretty new to telephony. Can anyone offer any insite? I'm concerned that security somewhere has been breached.
02:35.03mohadiber.. insight :s
02:40.54PenguinIf the IP address is from Palestine, what gives you the impression it is a call from didlogic?
02:41.07mohadibyeah, i think im wrong about that
02:41.18mohadibi had to allow anon sip sessions to use didlogic
02:41.25mohadiband didlogic is the default context for incoming calls
02:41.26PenguinThat was a mistake.
02:41.30mohadibyeah?
02:41.33PenguinThat's another mistake.
02:41.34mohadibi didnt like it
02:41.43PenguinProperly create a peer for didlogic.
02:41.44mohadibflowroute didnt need anon sip
02:42.19mohadibi think i did? I made a entry in sip.conf for didlogic. one to register, then a sip entry
02:42.27PenguinAny good ITSP is going to give you the IP address(es) for their server(s).
02:42.51PenguinPastebin your entries that you created in sip.conf.
02:42.57mohadibok, thanks!
02:43.22PenguinMask your passwords only.
02:44.28mohadibhttp://pastebin.com/RxjC6tN4
02:44.42mohadibah, i masked my user and did # too, sorry
02:45.22Penguinhttp://pastebin.com/fKArHCNp
02:45.44PenguinCrap, username should be changed to defaultuser.  I missed that.
02:47.08mohadibso, change the type and use remotesecret instead of secret?
02:48.11Penguintype=friend is for when devices need to authenticate to asterisk using a username.  secret is for when a device needs to authenticate to asterisk.
02:48.24PenguinNeither of those criteria match your use case.
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02:48.26mohadiboh, i see you removed insecure too
02:48.29mohadibok
02:49.26mohadibok, updated and reloaded, thanks
02:49.42PenguinDon't forget to set allowguest back to no.
02:49.45mohadibah
02:50.26mohadibdo i still need a default context?
02:50.38PenguinIn extensions.conf?
02:50.43mohadibin sip.conf
02:50.53PenguinDoes not compute.
02:51.00mohadibcontext=didlogic  ; Default context for incoming calls
02:51.14mohadibthat is under general in sip.conf
02:51.35PenguinThat would ideally be something like context=unauthenticated
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02:51.44mohadibok
02:52.17PenguinAnd then be sure to create that context in extensions.conf and put in it only those extension that you want unauthenticated devices to use.  Probably none.
03:06.22mohadibPenguin: now that I have turned quest access off I am rejecting calls from didlogic
03:06.29mohadibhandle_request_invite: Sending fake auth rejection for device
03:06.39PenguinLet's look at that for a minute.
03:06.51PenguinLook at the IP address that the calls are coming from.
03:06.51mohadibdo you want to see the full message?
03:06.55PenguinNot yet.
03:07.37mohadibok, i got the ip
03:07.44PenguinNow share it with me.
03:07.57mohadib27.50.90.165
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03:10.11PenguinIf you are sure the calls using that address are originating with didlogic, we can add that to the peer.
03:10.44mohadibyes, that is coming from didlogic
03:11.24mohadibat didlogic site they instruct me to turn on anon guest, but you think I can work around that?
03:11.50Penguinhttp://pastebin.com/7821U7zg
03:12.25PenguinIt depends on how many hosts they are going to send calls from.
03:12.26mohadibthe new part you added goes in sip.conf too?
03:12.31mohadibah i see
03:12.47mohadibcan i use cidr addressing in host?
03:12.57PenguinNo.
03:13.18PenguinNot unless that is a new feature in a newer asterisk version than what I am familiar with.
03:13.22mohadibi see
03:13.34mohadibso the new config you added goes in sip.conf too?
03:13.47PenguinThat should have been apparent.
03:14.25mohadibah yes
03:16.31mohadibok that did it
03:16.34mohadibThanks Penguin
03:16.45mohadibIll watch for rejections if they use another ip
03:16.58PenguinLet's just hope they don't suck so badly that they start sending calls from a new address each time.
03:17.21mohadibyeah
03:17.29mohadibif so ill just ditch them
03:17.46PenguinIf they just have a few IPs, it won't be that much of a problem to expand the peer with a few more host entries.
03:18.08mohadibcan you suggest anyone good for sip trunking and DIDs?
03:18.24PenguinFirst of all, there is no such thing as SIP trunking.
03:18.41PenguinSecond of all, what continent are you located on?
03:18.56mohadibah, ok on the first point
03:19.20mohadibwhat is the right terminology to use for my connection to didlogic?
03:19.34PenguinSIP?
03:19.38mohadibhah ok
03:19.39PenguinThey are an ITSP.
03:19.42mohadibah
03:19.47PenguinThey are a peer to your asterisk.
03:19.59mohadibso i have read about sip trunking i thought?
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03:20.04mohadibpeople are abusing that term?
03:20.18PenguinSIP doesn't trunk.  People who use the phrase don't understand what trunking is.
03:20.23mohadibah
03:20.28mohadibtrunking is for pstn?
03:20.35Penguin~trunk
03:20.35infobot[trunk] a word with varying definitions.  In Asterisk, a trunk is a "stream of UDP packets containing IAX2 frames from more than 1 call"; in telecom, a trunk is a "single voice channel between two pieces of switching equipment."; in Ethernet a trunk carries more than one 802.1q VLAN.  There is no such thing as a "SIP Trunk" -- Don't use the term. the nose of an elephant
03:20.57mohadibah thank you
03:21.12mohadibok, second Im in the US, but i also want a did with good rates in AU
03:21.40Penguin~itsplist-us
03:21.41infobotHere are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones: http://www.teliax.com , http://www.voicepulse.com/connect/ , http://www.broadvoice.com , http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net , http://voip.ms and http://flowroute.com
03:21.44mohadibcurrently im using flowroute for my US dids and didlogic for AU
03:21.55mohadibok, thanks again
03:22.16mohadib~itsplist-au
03:22.18PenguinI don't know if we have any AU ones on the bot...
03:22.22mohadibok
03:22.56PenguinI would hope there is more than just one in AU, though.
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04:10.50wafflejockHello all is this an appropriate place to ask for help or can someone point me in the right direction?
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04:57.28ChannelZ~ask
04:57.28infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
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06:35.13wafflejockOkay, so here's my setup.  I have a raspberry Pi that I loaded up with one of the RasPBX images and I want to use it for Google Voice (Motif) based conference calls.  That is  I have a Google account with voice and I want to set it up in RasPBX.
06:36.28wafflejockI've done this before but this time around I'm running into errors when I try to add my Google Voice account.  So I'm wondering if I can get some help debugging the errors I'm seeing.  Specifically this is coming up: [2013-09-15 23:13:34] WARNING[7102]: res_xmpp.c:3587 xmpp_client_thread: JABBER: socket read error
06:36.29wafflejock[2013-09-15 23:13:34] WARNING[7102]: res_xmpp.c:3528 xmpp_client_receive: Parsing failure: Hook returned an error.
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06:38.12wafflejockI've tried with a couple of different Google accounts to verify nothing in the username/password was causing a problem but I'm just not sure how to move forward.  Optionally I can install Aterisk and FreePBX on my Kubuntu laptop setup if that will work better, but really just looking for a solution to connection Google Voice with Asterisk.
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06:46.22deegenmaybe
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07:20.45ChannelZThose errors seem a bit odd with the socket read error
07:21.49ChannelZseems like perhaps you've got firewall issues or something else preventing access.  Beyond that without seeing any configs or debug it's just guessing
07:23.32ChannelZI will get socket read errors from time to time, probably when Google's servers barf
07:24.05ChannelZbut it otherwise works.
07:28.21ChannelZThat said Google Talk is pretty much dead, and I don't know if Google Voice is long for this world either
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08:10.42wafflejockChannelZ what are my alternatives in the way of getting a DID to point to a local Asterisk/FreePBX setup?
08:11.14wafflejockChannelZ: sorry I'm a complete noob here but any advice is welcome... may be knocking out soon but will leave the IRC open for suggestions
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10:02.46asghar144hi
10:03.49apurvtwrhi I am using asterisk 1.8.21. There is a background noise that I occassionally get on some channels.
10:04.45apurvtwrit's intermittent. However, here are few observations which I ahve made.
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10:05.42apurvtwrthe noise is almost always on only 1 one of the 2 channels of a call.
10:07.09apurvtwrI have checked the codec used on the two channels, in first test (when it was reproduced) it was  ulaw on one and alaw on the noisy channel. However, second time it was ulaw on both.
10:08.09apurvtwron the other hand, most of the other calls work well on ulaw codec.
10:08.40apurvtwrCan anyone give me an idea, what I should look at next to debug the issue?
10:09.36asghar144i am upgrading from asterisk 1.6.2 to asterisk 1.8.23.1 and using cdr_mysql backend, i always used usegmtime=yes and cdr was inserted in gmt time but with 1.8 no matter what i configure in cdr_mysql.conf records alway are inserted in localtime.
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10:10.44apurvtwrthis is my configuration in sip.conf
10:10.45apurvtwrdisallow = all allow = ulaw allow = alaw allow = g729 qualify=yes
10:11.05asghar144asked on mailling list http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2013-September/280541.html
10:11.26asghar144withot any responce
10:13.38apurvtwranyone?
10:20.20asghar144so i have created a patch that resolve this issue if here can test the patch?
10:26.32asghar144if somebody here can test the patch?
10:27.13GreenlightYou asked on the mailing list on Saturday. It's not even Monday morning yet in US. I'd say wait a little longer
10:29.43asghar144sorry i was expecting some answer not only from US but also other parts of the world
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10:32.34GreenlightIt's a rather specific question, likely best answered by whoever actually altered the code in the first place. My guess is that that must have been a reason for the change, but I can't think what that might be.
10:36.35Greenlightapurvtwr: From what I can see you just listed a bunch of sip configuration options. You've not actually asked a question, did you mean to ?
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10:38.16asghar144yes there should be some reason but in doc,s and in changelog nothing is mantioned even in cdr_mysql.conf there is still old options that should be removed if they removed GMT support.
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10:40.19apurvtwrGreenlight: I meant to ask, what else could be a reason for this issue? Since everywhere I ahve read, it seems like a codec issue
10:40.49apurvtwreven here https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-1323
10:41.18GreenlightYou are taking SIP, that issue is IAX.
10:41.56GreenlightOr perhaps I missed the start of your question. I only join #asterisk at 10 past
10:42.33apurvtwroh yes, I see you joined after i have already asked the question
10:42.41apurvtwrhi I am using asterisk 1.8.21. There is a background noise that I occassionally get on some channels.
10:43.03apurvtwrit's intermittent. the noise is almost always on only 1 one of the 2 channels of a call.
10:43.16apurvtwrI have checked the codec used on the two channels, in first test (when it was reproduced) it was  ulaw on one and alaw on the noisy channel. However, second time it was ulaw on both.
10:43.24GreenlightWhat codec are you using ?
10:43.32apurvtwron the other hand, most of the other calls work well on ulaw codec.
10:44.00GreenlightANd you've ruled out a faulty microphone etc ?
10:44.02apurvtwrI have tried using ulaw only as well as the other time alaw only as well
10:44.45apurvtwryes, because it happens only once in 7-8 calls
10:45.07GreenlightAnd always remains for the duration of the call ?
10:45.22apurvtwryes
10:45.33GreenlightSounds like the endpoint could be faulty
10:45.55apurvtwrby endpoint you mean the carrier?
10:46.18GreenlightI was presuming you had a sip phone as an endpoint ?
10:46.20asghar144patch is available here http://www.world-call-trade.com/asterisk/cdr_mysql_cdrzone.patch
10:47.28apurvtwractually, I have a gateway registered as a SIP trunk to asterisk... however, gateway hosts PRI lines
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10:47.44apurvtwrso for asterisk it's SIP
10:47.45GreenlightAnd on the other side of the call
10:48.42apurvtwrboth sides call are routed through the gateway, however I can try taking the call on SIP phone if you give me 5 mins
10:49.01GreenlightI would suggest the issue is on the gateway, or the PRI side
10:49.54GreenlightI would recommend getting a capture of the traffic when a call is in progress, and then playing it back using something like wireshark
10:51.08apurvtwrok. Let me do that. I will reproduce the issue first with a SIP phone on one side and gateway on the other.
10:51.25apurvtwrthen capture the packets with wireshark.
10:51.49GreenlightYou might even try connecting the SIP phone directly to the PRI<->SIP gateway
10:52.35GreenlightIs your PRI alaw or ulaw ?
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10:54.35apurvtwrthe PRI is alaw
10:55.26apurvtwrI am trying a couple of calls right now to reproduce the issue on SIP phone.
10:57.50GreenlightIf the PRI is alaw then i'd suggest trying to use that exclusively
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11:05.28apurvtwrok.. I tried 20 calls, one side on SIP phone the other through gateway, none of them had this background noise issue
11:06.13GreenlightThat's odd
11:06.24GreenlightNo noise even on PSTN side
11:06.36apurvtwrthe codec I was using was ulaw on both channels (asterisk). Gateway however was doing codec negotiation to alaw
11:06.51apurvtwrbut there was no noise at all on either channels.
11:10.17GreenlightWhy are you using ulaw ?
11:13.18apurvtwractually there are mutliple PRI carriers on the same gateway. Some use Ulaw, others alaw. Gateway is configured to use the appropriate translation.
11:13.57WIMPyo.O
11:14.03apurvtwrI ahve tried using only alaw as well.. but it didn't work
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11:15.44GreenlightMy gut feeling is that the gateway is doing something odd
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11:16.10GreenlightANd perhaps not detecting what codec should be getting used.
11:16.28GreenlightI seem to recall if you interpert ulaw as alaw you get noise
11:16.32GreenlightMaybe someone can confirm ?
11:16.59ChainsawGreenlight: There is an agreed way to transcode it without too much bother. But failing to do so wouldn't sound very good.
11:17.48ChainsawGreenlight: I tend to allow both alaw & ulaw on all sides of the link in the vain hope that it finds a way to not transcode the entire way.
11:18.51GreenlightI'm lucky; everything's alaw over here
11:19.34ChainsawI do find the ulaw vs alaw naming is the other way round then I'd expect. (The "a" for the American way)
11:21.12GreenlightIndeed, it's counter intuative
11:22.02ChainsawGreenlight: I should have waved by the way, on my way back from Inverness.
11:22.19GreenlightAhh you stayed up there for the weekend ?
11:22.26ChainsawGreenlight: Whole week :)
11:22.35GreenlightAhh cool - hope it was nice
11:22.38ChainsawGetting some rest at the end of the world.
11:22.46ChainsawDefinitely. Even had good weather.
11:22.50GreenlightWow
11:23.28ChainsawWell, we had to walk back a few miles totally soaked one day. We forgot our enchanted umbrella.
11:23.41Chainsaw(You don't even have to open it. But don't ever leave it behind.)
11:23.57GreenlightEnchanted by Sod's Law ? :)
11:24.26ChainsawI thought by faeries?
11:24.28WIMPyOnly tourists carry umbrellas with them.
11:24.48WIMPyThe locals know they don't work in heavy wind.
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11:25.32ChainsawWIMPy: There wasn't much wind though. It was raining straight down, not sideways.
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11:26.09WIMPyDownward rain only happens if Xmas and easter fall on the same day here.
11:26.27Chainsawwonders where WIMPy is
11:27.18ChainsawA little cottage deep in the black forest perhaps.
11:28.14WIMPyThe "Land between the seas". At a fjord of the baltic sea, but the north sea is less than 50km away as well.
11:28.21WIMPyThat always makes for good wind.
11:28.24ChainsawAh yes, that wouldn't help.
11:28.50Greenlight"The Land Between The Seas" -- sounds very Game of Thrones esque
11:29.06ChainsawTotally does.
11:30.05WIMPySchleswig-Holstein
11:31.47ChainsawMust have good beer.
11:32.21ChainsawGreenlight on the other end is more in a whisky area.
11:32.49WIMPyThe one with the famous swing top.
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11:34.17bulkorokFlens?!
11:34.35WIMPyexactely
11:34.37Chainsawother end? hand!
11:34.43Chainsawreally must learn to type properly one day
11:35.14WIMPycertainly perfers whisky.
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11:49.33apurvtwrok.. I have checked gateway codecs as well
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11:50.32apurvtwrgateway uses alaw for this PRI everytime (with or without noise )
11:50.54apurvtwrGateway and asterisk are communicating over ulaw in both cases.
11:51.16GreenlightCapture the packets
11:51.29GreenlightThrow it into wirehshark, listen to the streams
11:51.42ChainsawWith the utmost respect apurvtwr, Greenlight needs raw data, not your interpretation of it.
11:51.58GreenlightAlso, are you allowing direct media ?
11:52.22apurvtwrthanks Chainsaw . :)
11:52.53GreenlightYup - an actual call trace would help :)
11:54.02apurvtwrok. I am sharing that with you.
11:54.41Greenlight~pb
11:54.41infobotA "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
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12:08.30asghar144anyone wish to test patch for asterisk 1.8 for mysql cdr backend, it enable insert cdr in any timezone.
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12:22.34apurvtwrGreenlight: pastebin wasn't allowing more than 500 KB per paste.. so I am sharing the full logs of two calls in this link
12:22.35apurvtwrhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/fpouh0j9d5ya9ue/full
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12:23.39apurvtwr192.168.1.7 is asterisk server and 192.168.1.55 is my gateway
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12:24.44apurvtwrin the middle of the logs there is line "Call with noise starts here" , after which are the logs of the call that is noisy
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12:28.51apurvtwrGreenlight: are you able to download the file from the link?
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12:49.36apurvtwrGreenlight: are you there? :)
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13:26.27vlad_starkovQuestion: Say I run Originate(SIP/1234,exten,my_context,100,1) in dialplan. Is it possible to pass some channel variables to "SIP/1234" peer to make it possible to receive it at "my_context,100,1" after "SIP/1234" is being answered?
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13:28.06[TK]D-Fendervlad_starkov: No. use a call-file or AMI originate instead as those support it
13:28.34vlad_starkov[TK]D-Fender: thanks!
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13:31.38hjf[Sep 16 10:30:41] NOTICE[102760]: chan_sip.c:15071 sip_reg_timeout:    -- Registration for 'xxxx@xxxx.226.247' timed out, trying again (Attempt #2608).226.247' timed out, trying again (Attempt #2608)
13:31.52hjfi get that error all the time (well, 2608 times as you can see
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13:31.59hjfbut i can place calls through that ITSP
13:33.56[TK]D-Fenderhjf: Because registration has nothing to do with sending authed calls out a peer
13:34.20[TK]D-Fenderhjf: And you should really, really be looking at the SIP debug of your registration attempt
13:34.48hjfhmmm... it was the router. very weird. there was a conntrack entry with type SIP there. i deleted it, and asterisk registered
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13:36.33Chainsawhjf: Ask jkroon about SIP and conntrack. You basically do not want it.
13:36.52Chainsawhjf: Not when you have a SIP server behind the NAT router. It is very client-orientated and will get it wrong.
13:37.23PLMghello, can anyone help me with a bit of scripting? (1-2 lines)
13:38.03WIMPyI think that's likely been due to it running out of memory.
13:38.29hjfChainsaw: well, i need conntrack if i'm using NAT anyway, no?
13:38.32[TK]D-FenderPLMg: describe what you need
13:38.39WIMPyThe conntrack has wrked fine for me.
13:38.40[TK]D-Fenderhjf: No/.
13:38.41PLMgneed to edit fax-process.pl to change the way emails are sent. (subject...)
13:39.15[TK]D-FenderPLMg: Show us the code (keeping in mind this isn't an Asterisk issue)
13:39.43hjf[TK]D-Fender: from my router's manufacturer "By disabling the conntrack system you will lose functionality of the NAT and most of the filter and mangle ..."
13:40.08[TK]D-Fenderhjf: And how much of that do you need?
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13:42.10PLMgneed a few minutes, seems like I have no editor installed. And also thx for the help even if this is not an asterisk issue
13:49.09PLMghttp://pastebin.com/VBLdUmJe
13:50.12PLMgwhat I need is for the number the fax was sent to be included in the message
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13:51.07hjfI found the problem. the internet went out during the night and the router failed over to the secondary connection. conntrack was still tied to the secondary IP
13:51.39hjfso i added a little script to purge SIP conntrack entries when there's a failover
13:52.46WIMPyThat's the difference between SNAT and MASQUERADE.
13:52.52[TK]D-FenderPLMg: The destination number for this fax is ".$dest."
13:52.59[TK]D-FenderPLMg: looks like it's there already
13:53.50PLMguhm yeah, I do recive emails that are send to me via fax, but they do not show from who
13:53.52PLMgwhat number
13:54.03PLMgthey all say my fax number
13:55.08PenguinEdit your command to include the callerid number of the sender.
13:55.25PLMgok... and how do I do that? :)
13:55.34PLMgI mean, what do I type and where
13:55.34[TK]D-FenderplnYou said "sent TO", not "sent FROM"
13:56.39Penguinthe number the fax was sent ... to be included
13:56.42PenguinUnclear.
13:57.53PLMgcan you give me an example? I didn't find sent from
13:58.01PLMgI really suck at this, sry
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13:58.58PLMgunder #default parameters the $to = "noreply.... this line?
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14:01.58OS_Florent2hi, how can i redirect the 2 leg of call bridged via bridge application after a defined time (in ms or second) ?
14:02.25PLMgI think I am not expresing myself right. So I have a fax, people send me faxes I recive them in tiff format. Those files are sent to a email adress but in the email it says they come from my fax number. Not the senders fax number.
14:02.51davlefouAMDhi, some one have use SipAddHeader with sflphone. I create an in my dialplan but i don't how to use it with commande line of anrochage.
14:04.49[TK]D-FenderdavlefouAMD: please rephrase...
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14:17.27Geek-LinuxHello every one, how can be the concurrent calls limit /sec set in asterisk can any one guide me ?
14:17.59GreenlightThere is no hard "limit". It depends on a vast number of factors.
14:18.12GreenlightOr, you mean to set a limit?
14:18.18PenguinAre you trying to set a limit
14:18.19Penguin?
14:18.19Geek-Linuxmeans in a same second at a time , how many calls can be accepted.
14:18.23Geek-Linuxyes
14:18.34PenguinYou'll have to write it in dial plan.
14:18.48GreenlightMost likely with a DB backend to a dialplan script
14:18.55Geek-Linuxbecause when a bulk of calls land on my servers at the same time they crash and restarts
14:19.11PenguinWhy would you need a db or a script?
14:19.36Geek-Linuxyes i have writed it by groupcount and hangup the calls if limit exceeds but it is for simultaneous calls
14:19.42PenguinI would probably use channel groups and something to check the time.
14:19.53PenguinCheck the time, too.
14:20.06PenguinNot just the count, but also the time.
14:20.10Geek-Linuxtime in which sense ?
14:20.18GreenlightThe "per sec" bit
14:20.41GreenlightBut... how many calls are being dumped on your server ?
14:20.42Geek-Linuxmeans in a same condition call + time
14:21.01Geek-Linuxit has limit of 240 calls
14:21.11Geek-Linuxmeans 8 E1s
14:21.12GreenlightOk, so it should not be restarting.
14:21.16PenguinI would probably use STRFTIME unless I thought of something better.
14:21.37GreenlightWhich version of Asterisk are you running ?
14:21.47Geek-Linux1.6.2.6
14:22.06GreenlightThat's unsupported now, and quite old.
14:22.14Greenlight~version
14:22.14infobotrumour has it, version is for the kernel "uname -r", for your distro "cat /etc/*-release" or "lsb_release -d". For other applications, try running it with a --version command.
14:22.22Greenlight~upgrade
14:22.22infobotUpgrading is easy!  Go that way, really fast.  If something gets in your way, turn.
14:22.23[TK]D-FenderAnd far from even the latest in that branch
14:22.25Geek-Linuxall the servers were stable a month ago but now they and restarting after every 10 minutes
14:22.39GreenlightBleh infobot
14:22.46PenguinUnless we're asked about a PROBLEM with asterisk, why is the version important?
14:23.05GreenlightSorry, random restarts sounded like a problem to me. My bad.
14:23.38GreenlightIt's not like the whole SIP stack has been re-written since 1.6
14:23.49PenguinThe only thing I got was a request to write some dial plan.
14:24.01PenguinI don't see anything about restarting anything in that question.
14:24.11fileGreenlight, I see what you did there.
14:24.24Greenlight:)
14:24.46PenguinThere it is.  I see it now.  "crash and restarts"
14:25.26GreenlightI'm not one of the "OMG YOU MUST UPGRADE" fanbois, but if he's getting restarts randomly, then it's surely a good start..
14:25.32Geek-LinuxWe are using TDM and then IAX. and i observe a WARNING. exceptionally long voice queue and they suddenly restart.
14:25.42GreenlightAhh that error
14:25.44PenguinIt somehow got lost in the scrolling.
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14:26.21Geek-Linuxyup but still no answer on the forums. even no reason.
14:26.38Geek-Linuxi was in doubt on network but networks seems good
14:26.51GreenlightI beleive it's a deadlock that causes it
14:26.54fileit means that the thread which is supposed to read in the media is somehow locked or otherwise doing something else
14:27.01filewhy that occurs in your situation, who knows
14:27.36Geek-Linuxthats why tried to ask you all about, any ideas or reasons
14:27.54GreenlightYea, you're running and old version with lots of since-fixed bugs.
14:28.18davlefouAMD[TK]D-Fender, i have that i can create an headers message for my softphone: http://the-asterisk-book.com/1.6/applikationen-sipaddheader.html
14:28.43Qwell~upgrade asterisk
14:28.43infobotBefore requesting assistance, you should be running the latest version of a supported release branch.  See the channel topic for the latest versions available in currently supported branches.
14:28.46davlefouAMDand i want get the message in softphone who is sflphone.
14:28.46asghar144anyone wish to test patch for cdr mysql backend that enable insert cdr in mysql in any timezone, patch is for asterisk-1.8.23.1
14:28.48GreenlightYou're getting a deadlock somewhere, but I doubt anyone is going to give any time to help fixing a deadlock on a non-current version
14:28.54PenguinIf you've got bugs, you definitely need to upgrade to see if the problem goes away.
14:28.59Geek-Linuxcan it be the issue of communication of old version with the new ones. because i am using 1.6.2.6 + 10.12.1 + 10.5.1
14:29.08[TK]D-FenderdavlefouAMD: What "message"?
14:29.26GreenlightGeek-Linux: It's hard to say.
14:29.35PenguinWith IAX2?  Could be.
14:29.35[TK]D-FenderdavlefouAMD: Sounds like you need to learn what your softphone supports... this does not appear to be an * issue
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14:29.56davlefouAMD[TK]D-Fender, ok, i ll look about that.
14:30.24WIMPyGeek-Linux: I can't remember when it was, but there was a version of IAX that didn;t want to play nicely with other versions.
14:30.46WIMPyI'd guess in the 1.6.2 area.
14:31.33Geek-LinuxWIMPY: hmmm i am realy frustrated by this issue.
14:31.36PenguinIt used to be recommended that both sides of an IAX2 trunk were the same asterisk version.  I assume that recommendation remains today.
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14:32.38WIMPyI don;t see why they should be the same. I've been using it between different versions all the time. But at one time there has been an issue in doing so.
14:32.42GreenlightGeek-Linux: I never much liked the 1.6 versions; current 11 is really nice. It would thourghly recommend it
14:32.55Geek-LinuxOK: you know this will make me to upgrade my OS version too. and which will be a headache :(
14:33.24WIMPyYes. 1.6.* was bad. Use at least the latest 1.8, better the latest 11.
14:33.53Geek-LinuxGreenlight: what would you recommend the OS verison. debian wheezy or squeez.
14:33.54[TK]D-FenderGeek-Linux: How would this have anything to do with your OS?
14:34.16GreenlightPersonally we always use CentOS. Currently 6.
14:34.36GreenlightI'm not sure about Debian, or why you'd *need* to even upgrade it.
14:34.53GreenlightIf anything, I guess, ensure it supports timerfd
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14:41.55Geek-LinuxGreenLight: i am checking for the support timerfd but what it is used for
14:42.52GreenlightAnything that needs a timing source
14:43.00Geek-LinuxGreenLight: because all the softwares used for setting needs latest kernal to work fine.
14:43.16Greenlightused for setting ?
14:43.49Geek-Linuxsetting for Asterisk machine including TDM, wanpipe, dahdi, ss7
14:43.59Qwell...says who?
14:44.33GreenlightI've installs running fine on 2.5 kernels
14:44.45Geek-Linuxme :) because i have experiece when moved my some server latest release on old OS
14:45.24QwellYour experience is wrong.
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14:46.15Geek-LinuxOK.
14:46.21Geek-Linux:(
14:47.39Kobazthe OS is more than just the kernel
14:47.51[TK]D-Fender2.5 ...?
14:48.05PenguinUpgrading the kernel is sometimes useful.
14:48.15PenguinNo one uses 2.5 kernel.
14:48.49GreenlightI'm pretty sure CentOS5 is still 2.5
14:49.03QwellNo distros used 2.5.
14:49.04GreenlightALthough I've not access handy to any boxes running it
14:49.19Penguin2.5 has never been released publicly.
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14:49.36GreenlightI know that CentOS5 kernels didn't support timerfd, and CentOS6's kernel did
14:49.47GreenlightANd I know CEntOS6 is 2.6
14:49.51Penguin2.4, 2.6, 3.0
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14:50.43PenguinI still remember using 2.2.
14:51.27Kobaz2.2 ?
14:51.36Kobazi remember building 1.2.13
14:51.49PenguinI haven't used Linux for THAT long.
14:51.52Kobazthat kernel had the famous ld_preload remote root exploit vulnerability
14:52.03PenguinI didn't start with Linux until around 2000.
14:52.14Kobaz95/96 for me
14:52.44Kobazi remember installing slackware 96, after having downloaded the whole cd image on my 14.4
14:52.54Kobazit was much newer than the slackware that came with my 'linux unleashed book'
14:53.02PenguinMy first Slackware was 8.0.
14:53.09GreenlightDownloading CD images over 14.4 :)
14:53.23GreenlightTieing up the phone line for days
14:54.03KobazSlackware 3.1, released in July 1996, shipped with Linux kernel 2.0.0 and was called "Slackware 96" in allusion to Windows 95
14:54.09Kobazwe had a second phone line just for data
14:54.25Kobazso it was on 24/7 downloading for 3 weeks to get that image, hah
14:54.36GreenlightWe eventually got ISDN2e (?) for data
14:54.41GreenlightWow was it QUICK
14:56.21Kobazi should have just ordered the cd for $2
14:56.22fullstopKobaz: I downloaded every floppy image for that, wrote them all to disks.. just to find out that it didn't support my scsi controller.
14:56.41Kobazprobably took $50 in electricity to download
14:56.41Greenlighthehe
14:58.07fullstopleonard zubkoff eventually wrote the scsi driver the next year, and I was able to install.
14:58.19fullstopbut the poor guy died in a helicopter crash a few years later.  :(
14:59.39Kobazaw
15:04.30QwellNew policy: People in the Open Source community aren't allowed to die anymore.
15:04.35Qwellglares at lilo and skvidal
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15:14.51hjfstupid freenode
15:14.59hjfanyway
15:15.38hjfi can download the config file and it looks like this:
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15:55.54devdvdhey, im looking for a good wisip phone that can easily go between different access points.  it doesn't have to maintain it's connection between access points, just needs to be able to pick one up and use it.  I currently have a spectralink 8002 and it's horrible so that one is out.  Any recommendations.  I would also be fine with a regular cordless phone with multiple sip base stations but it would need the same extension
15:56.00devdvdany recommendations?
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16:49.51vlad_starkovQuestion: Is it possible to use pound '#' key in confbridge.conf?
16:50.20vlad_starkovnow it returns WARNING[894]: config.c:1362 process_text_line: Unknown directive '#=no_op' at line 76 of /etc/asterisk/confbridge.conf
16:50.55Greenlight'#' isnt a config option though?
16:51.16GreenlightFrom what I remember of confbridge.conf
16:51.36vlad_starkovI'd like to use '#' in [menu] context
16:51.41GreenlightAhh in the menu
16:51.49newtonrvlad_starkov,  https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-22478
16:52.32newtonrAppears that you cannot, currently. The # gets processed as a directive, like for includes
17:08.38vlad_starkovnewtonr: Thanks
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17:46.04asghar144anybody wish to test patch against cdr mysql backend fot configurable cdr timezone?
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17:51.57boom^timeHey guys, is there a good PHP to AMI set of tools or are you better off just writing them yourself?
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17:55.27[TK]D-Fenderboom^time: php-agi library is commonly used and jsut about everyone who uses it is just fine with it
18:00.48drmessanoboom
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18:06.44Cubbercan anyone recommend a reliable SIP trunk service to replace my now useless google voice trunks?  I require PSTN access in the US.
18:06.47boom^time[TK]D-Fender, thanks but that is for AGI right? I'm looking for AMI communication.
18:08.06boom^timeCubber, I haven't tried them yet but someone here recommended them to me and I'm going to give them a shot here soon: http://voip.ms/
18:08.19boom^timeactually I think the bot will give you a list
18:08.21boom^time~itsp
18:08.21infobot[~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet Telephony Service Provider (or VoIP telephone company). They allow you to either SEND calls to the PSTN (this is called termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs.
18:08.29boom^time~itsplist-us
18:08.30infobotHere are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones: http://www.teliax.com , http://www.voicepulse.com/connect/ , http://www.broadvoice.com , http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net , http://voip.ms and http://flowroute.com
18:08.32ChannelZI think there's some AMI handling things in php-agi
18:10.59Cubberboom^time: thanks
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18:12.34boom^timeChannelZ, I'm confused on how to use it. With AGI the PHP is executed from within the dial-plan. While with what I'm doing the AMI will need to be called from within the PHP.
18:13.29[TK]D-Fenderboom^time: php-agi has AMI methods in there
18:14.48ChannelZIt's just a toolkit.  Presumably you would be launching your AMI script from the shell with 'php'
18:15.07ChannelZYou just use their functions/callbacks/however it's implemented instead of writing your own IO
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18:21.17krunalHello guys
18:21.50krunalI am getting a weird issue with asterisk Asterisk 10.12.2
18:22.07krunalwhenever any  sip extension tries to registere there
18:22.07drmessanoIs it screaming that it's unsupported?
18:22.09drmessanoStab it
18:22.43krunalgetting Correct auth, but based on stale nonce received from
18:22.53krunaland no extensions are getting registered
18:23.00krunalwhat should be wrong with it?
18:23.33krunalplease help me out
18:30.56krunalis anybody there to help me out?
18:31.32[TK]D-Fenderkrunal: 10.12.3 is out, and that entire branch is only getting security fixes at this point, and not for long.  We highly recommend you upgrade
18:31.55newtonrkrunal, try Googling "asterisk stale nonce" there is quite a lot of reading on it from discussions that have already been had
18:32.39krunalthanks for the update
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18:36.15ledoktreGreetings.  I've got a quick question regarding the use of the : and =~ operators.  I am trying to do a gotoif based on if the number returned contains a number.  For example : GotoIf($["${CALLERID(NUM)}" : "*.[5551212]+)"]?true)  .  I am sure I've got a typo, but can't seem to nail it. I did not include the area code on that number because some calls if they are local seem to come in without showing the area code in the CID. He
18:37.29ledoktreOops - typo there.  On the second part after :   "*.[5551212]+"    (I read the () is required if you want to see the return value.  I just want true or false.  Tried it with and without () marks.
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18:42.25boom^timeI see nothing in any documentation or even on during a google search that claims you can use phpagi to originate via AMI
18:42.41boom^timeI must be missing something...
18:49.11ledoktreanyone here use : and =~ for regex ?
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18:58.58Penguinledoktre: I've never tried to use : in a GotoIf().  Try the equal sign like everyone else uses.  Also, take a look at the REGEX() function.
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19:14.20ageiscan anyone point out what's causing this "syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting $end"
19:14.26ageishere's the line: exten => h,2,GotoIf($[${REC} = 1]?recorded,s,1)
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19:19.54Penguinageis: Is ${REC} a null value?
19:21.26ageisdo I just need quotes?
19:21.48PenguinIf it can be null, make it not a null value.  Use double quotes on both sides of the comparison or add a static bit of data on both sides, such as $[x${REC} = x1].
19:22.12ageisyeah, I think I just need quotes on both sides. thanks
19:22.14PenguinThe quotes will also be compared, so you have to use them on both sides.
19:23.40ageisso it would be like so: GotoIf($["${REC}" = "1"]?recorded,s,1)
19:24.01PenguinLooks okay to me... if a null value was the problem.
19:24.51PenguinNow it can compare "" to "1" in the event the variable has no data.
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19:38.38rrittgarnafternoon gentlemen, anybody ever work with Cetis 2800/2802 series phones before
19:41.05ChannelZ-Wknever even heard of 'em
19:41.41ncrolloCall 1 enters the queue and is answered by Agent A. Call 2 then enters the queue and rings all phones except Agent A. Agent A then ends call 1 and should be able to immediately answer call 2
19:41.50ncrollois this possible or am I crazy?
19:41.52ChannelZ-Wk(their website is completely busted)
19:44.01navaismoncrollo, is possble, retry & wrapuptime are the hints
19:44.39ncrollothats what I thought...
19:46.01ncrollostrategy=ringall; ringinuse = no; wrapuptime=1; timeoutrestart = yes ;timeout=45 ;retry = 1
19:46.09rrittgarn@ChannelZ yeah... used google cache to find their number just now... they are hotel style phones.
19:47.24ChannelZ-WkDo you have some that aren't working or were you asking in general to see if they did?
19:48.02rrittgarnbidding on a job that wants to re-use them... needed to know if they were analog or digital with some form of a controller
19:48.12rrittgarnended up finding a cached version of their site that had their number and called
19:48.25rrittgarnanswer was purely analog, also branded Telematrix
19:49.13ChannelZ-Wkah.
19:49.15navaismoncrollo, retry must be setted to 1 aswell to start ringing again all members
19:49.34[TK]D-Fender[15:41]ncrollois this possible or am I crazy? <- not, it is not possible
19:49.56ncrollonavaismo, it is set to 1
19:50.28navaismooh i think the ; was actullay a ; in the file
19:51.24ncrollono, just a bad new line seperator decision ^.^
19:56.32PenguinDo you have two separate queues for this?
20:00.35ncrollono its one queue
20:01.05[TK]D-Fenderncrollo: Three is no ability to immediately answer that waiting call.
20:01.22PenguinHow do you ring only one agent with a ringall strategy?
20:01.39[TK]D-FenderPenguin: Uniquely :)
20:02.00PenguinVery strange.
20:02.15ncrollothere are 4 agents, 1 main operator and 3 other "part time" operators, right now the operator gets off a call and either has to wait for the timeout (45) seconds or run over to another phone
20:02.41[TK]D-FenderncoCorrect.  That is "how it is"
20:02.49[TK]D-Fenderncrollo: Correct.  That is "how it is"
20:04.19rrittgarnF1 is acting up again
20:04.24rrittgarngetting no-dial tones on a few lines
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20:05.24ncrollo[TK]D-Fender, then what is timeoutrestart, retry and wrap-up time for?
20:05.57[TK]D-Fenderncrollo: Wrap up cuts you out from distribution when distribution happens
20:06.22ncrollowhich i understand.
20:06.30[TK]D-Fenderncrollo: if there is a distribution in progress and then 1 phone newly becomes availa it will NOT get "added" to the ringing bunch.
20:06.45ncrollobut and that makes sense
20:06.53[TK]D-Fenderncrollo: the ones chosen are at the start and if another becomes available 1 second in, too bad
20:07.07PenguinIsn't wrapuptime for how long the phone remains unavailable after it has ended its call?
20:07.12Penguins/phone/agent/
20:07.34[TK]D-Fender[16:07]infobotPenguin meant: Isn't wrapuptime for how long the agent remains unavailable after it has ended its call? <- yes
20:07.46[TK]D-Fenderwhich is counted agains the next distribution start
20:07.55ncrolloyeah and wrapup time actually makes sense
20:08.26ncrollobut from what I rad on asteriskinfo "agent to answer is reset if a BUSY or CONGESTION is received"
20:08.58ncrolloso if Agent A is on a call it sends a BUSY
20:09.05PenguinAre you using the agent channel or some other channel tech for members?
20:09.09[TK]D-Fenderthat sentence does not make sense.. and could you clarify that source?
20:09.19[TK]D-FenderWhat is "asteriskinfo"?
20:10.25ncrollohttp://www.voip-info.org/
20:10.48PenguinI wouldn't have guessed that.
20:10.53ncrollospecifically http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+config+queues.conf
20:15.35ncrollowhat I was trying to say is from what I read on voip-info.org timeoutrestart is the critical part. When Agent A sends a busy the time out for an agent to answer is reset
20:16.12Penguin(1509.05) <Penguin> Are you using the agent channel or some other channel tech for members?
20:22.56ncrolloPenguin, I'm not sure I understnad that
20:23.10ncrolloI have static member extensions
20:23.31Penguinmember => Agent/123?  member => Local/123@agents?
20:23.57Penguinor the worst, member => SIP/123?
20:24.55navaismouse the worst, A L W A Y S
20:25.27ncrollolol
20:25.28ncrollomember => SIP/201122
20:25.40ncrolloyeah I'm using the worst :/
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22:15.44riantsoahi all
22:15.51ChannelZ-Wkwaves his boobs
22:16.03riantsoalol
22:16.58riantsoai have trouble with DTMF, i use chan dongle and when i press touch on my gsm phone asterisk cant recognise the DTMF
22:17.49riantsoai connect succesfully to asterisk with my mobile phone via an huawei 1750 usb 3g dongle
22:18.10riantsoabut i cannot navigate on my IVR via the dtmf tone
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22:19.10riantsoaplease, can somebody help me, i have spent 5 days trying to solve this
22:21.37ChannelZ-Wkwell the gsm codec destroys DTMF as far as I know and has to be handled as data by the network, kinda like rfc2833 does
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22:23.24riantsoahow can i do that on asterisk?
22:24.29ChannelZ-WkI assume it's something either handled by chan_dongle by default or a config option.. but I've no idea
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23:17.26wafflejock_~itsplist-us
23:17.26infobotHere are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones: http://www.teliax.com , http://www.voicepulse.com/connect/ , http://www.broadvoice.com , http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net , http://voip.ms and http://flowroute.com
23:21.50wafflejock_So I have a situation, I posted last night but didn't see a response so trying again.  I was previously using Google Voice to connect to Asterisk (keep in mind I'm a complete noob here, but a developer).  I'm wondering what I need now to get a DID for inbound calls so I can setup a conference call line (I also want to just be able to explore asterisk/freepbx for the sake of learning and being able to handle more complicated
23:21.50wafflejock_deployments).  So I see the ITSPs list but I don't know what the easiest/cheapest way to go about this is, or what it is I'm looking for really.  Do I need SIP trunk service? what should I be searching for?
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23:22.23tm1000~freepbx
23:22.23infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there
23:22.28Penguin~trunk
23:22.28infobottrunk is, like, a word with varying definitions.  In Asterisk, a trunk is a "stream of UDP packets containing IAX2 frames from more than 1 call"; in telecom, a trunk is a "single voice channel between two pieces of switching equipment."; in Ethernet a trunk carries more than one 802.1q VLAN.  There is no such thing as a "SIP Trunk" -- Don't use the term. the nose of an elephant
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23:22.55wafflejock_Penguin: thx
23:23.04wafflejock_tm1000: thx
23:25.20wafflejock_So if I don't have a physical line coming into the place can I still configure Asterisk via just the internet to connect to one of these providers, would that be considered an IAX trunk?
23:27.07tm1000wafflejock_: no SIP
23:27.18tm1000I mean. sure you can get an IAX trunkā€¦if you want...
23:27.24tm1000mainly SIP though
23:31.08wafflejock_So, general question, do most small/medium businesses who are using some sort of SIP service or Asterisk usually go to cloud services now or is it still beneficial to have an on site server for any particular reason?
23:32.56ChannelZ-WkI suppose you save a leg of latency having it local.
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23:36.22aypea[3]hi. trying to script usage of menuselect but I cannot figure out how to select app_meetme to be compiled. anyone able to help (point at a doc)?
23:37.02ChannelZ-Wkwell you can configure things with makeopts
23:38.13aypea[3]hrm. unless I'm mistaken that has a dodgy feel to it :)
23:41.08[TK]D-Fenderwafflejock_: A few reasons to have the server hosted externally, and probably a few more to have it locally.
23:42.12aypea[3]found an example on the internet. it seems it's what I thought it'd be. lets see how she flies.
23:42.46[TK]D-Fenderaypea[3]: Menuselect will tell you what you're missing...
23:42.57[TK]D-Fenderaypea[3]: What is pretty much ... DAHDI'
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23:43.37aypea[3]yeah. it's more of a case of getting 11.5.1 to try and compile it since it's been undefaulted (and semi-deprecated).
23:45.09aypea[3]w00t! :) -rw-r--r-- root/root    170312 2013-09-17 09:43 ./usr/lib/asterisk/modules/app_meetme.so
23:45.17aypea[3]built and packaged.
23:45.33wafflejock_[TK]D-Fender: Yeah I had previously played with the PIAF (PBX in a Flash) raspberry Pi image for running asterisk/freepbx just to check it out and like it all a lot in terms of all the configurability and could potentially code some stuff around the server.  I'm interested in setting up a server for a small business as well who would like to have 5-15 offices setup with phones, but am looking to do some more experimenting on my
23:45.33wafflejock_own before trying to deploy something for another business.  Mostly I stick to web development work, but have a BS in CS from DePaul so I have some knowledge in the arena just nothing specific to telecom.  It seems like all of the ITSPs just offer some sort of hosted deal, I'd really like to have the server local here just to learn on though.
23:45.34aypea[3]for the curious: menuselect/menuselect --enable app_meetme menuselect.makeopts
23:47.59[TK]D-Fenderwafflejock_: Having your own server means not having to rent the service
23:48.39[TK]D-Fenderwafflejock_: and having direct control over it.  Also if your internet goes down your users can still call amongst each other and you could have alternate means of dialing out.
23:48.56wafflejock_[TK]D-Fender: yeah so out of the list of ITSPs from this IRC channel this is the first one I've seen that seems to offer just the DID and line service separate from the cloud hosted virtual PBX http://vitelity.net/services_voip/
23:49.08wafflejock_[TK]D-Fender: thx for the pointers on the advantages too
23:49.49[TK]D-Fenderwafflejock_: ALL of those providers offer staright services, not just "hosted:
23:50.43[TK]D-FenderinfobotHere are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones: http://www.teliax.com , http://www.voicepulse.com/connect/ , http://www.broadvoice.com , http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net , http://voip.ms and http://flowroute.com
23:50.45[TK]D-Fender^
23:50.58[TK]D-FenderAll of them offer straight-up service
23:51.08[TK]D-Fendernot tied to running hosted PBX
23:51.36wafflejock_[TK]D-Fender: okay they are apparently just pushing the hosted service on their sites and I wasn't seeing the deal for just hooking up service, any one you think is particularly better personally?
23:52.34[TK]D-Fenderwafflejock_: Flowroute has one of the better reps these days, Vitelity is pretty strong as well, and voip.ms is a vitelity reseller who is often a little cheaper, but don't support T.38 faxing.
23:52.50[TK]D-FenderSo I'd probably look at Flowroute and vitelity first
23:53.09wafflejock_[TK]D-Fender: awesome information thank you very much I'll look into those
23:53.27[TK]D-FenderCompare them all, but what I am giving you is based on a alrge volume of community feedback substantiated by people I respect here
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