IRC log for #asterisk on 20110130

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00:06.15MikeHIs there a 'get started' guide for AsteriskGUI?
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00:16.25fbc_ChannelZ, I like the electrodes on a chair idea
00:17.05fbc_MikeH, dunno I use elastix.
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00:36.48MikeHWell, this is fun
00:37.02MikeHThe GSM card I bought requires that I use their own supplied version of asterisk and dahdi
00:40.53WIMPyYou shoot yourself in the foot hardware.
00:41.09MikeHI found no other GSM interface cards when looking :/
00:41.36MikeHAre there source packages available for either AsteriskGUI or FreePBX?
00:42.21ariel_there is a full open source for Freepbx
00:42.45pabelangerMikeH: which card?
00:42.49WIMPyBut the GUIs don't have anything to do with hardware.
00:43.16MikeHpabelanger, atcom ax4g
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00:43.51WIMPyUgh
00:44.14MikeHWIMPy, Not saying they do, but once I've had to manually compile asterisk, I'm assuming that the packages for FreePBX/AsteriskGUI will fail on their dependency for asterisk
00:45.08WIMPyOk, things to think of when buying hardware for use with Asterisk #1: Don't fall for a "works with Asterisk" or "Designed for Asterisk". Always ask if it works with the current version.
00:45.49WIMPyNot sure, they are that closely related, but I don't know much about the GUIs.
00:46.58WIMPyBut that card has too many antennas and too little sim readers at first sight.
00:48.35MikeHhuh?
00:48.40MikeHIts modular
00:48.50MikeHyou have one antenna and one sim card slot per module.....
00:49.10WIMPyYes, indeed.
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01:13.50beebuuhello,all
01:14.38beebuuhow to know which called part pickup when dial(sip/1001&sip/1002) run?
01:14.55DNDguys. im having problems installing nvfax
01:15.02DNDi mean lading nvfax in asterisk
01:15.07DND*loading
01:15.25DNDi tried module load app_nv_faxdetect.so
01:15.36DNDbut its not showing any confirmation that its loaded
01:15.44DNDits not also in core show application
01:16.12WIMPyturn up debug and verbose and try again.
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01:16.31WIMPyIt should tell you why it doesn't load.
01:16.59DNDmy verbose is asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvr
01:17.34WIMPy'core set debug 9'
01:19.12DNDnope
01:19.14DNDnothing
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01:21.09DNDhmm
01:21.15root52Hey All. Asterisk 1.8.1 func_odbc readsql works just fine. however writesql seems to just be ignored. I never see the query in the mysql log. Any thoughts?
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01:25.53WIMPyo/~
01:25.58WIMPyoops
01:26.02WIMPynot here :-)
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01:27.22delroy_anyone using/used IMAP storage?
01:29.49delroy_anyone using/used IMAP storage? I want to know if one can use normal storage and IMAP storage for specific extensions only.
01:37.50root52Wait. I'm sorry forgot what server I was on. It is asterisk 1.8.0 not 1.8.1
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02:07.58drmessanodelroy_, you should be able to mix them
02:08.05drmessanoLast time I checked you could
02:32.58MikeHANyone here use a Cisco phone with Asterisk?
02:33.03MikeHI'm trying to get it to connect
02:33.32MikeHbut I'm unsure of some settings - I've filled it in with 'best guess' and the phone is giving me 'Failed(404)'
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02:51.34MikeHAnyone?
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03:09.53beebuuhow to know which called part pickup when dial(sip/1001&sip/1002) run?
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03:23.59MikeHis there a way to test channels.
03:24.16MikeHI've setup incoming and outgoing calling rules, dial plans and users
03:24.43MikeHbut when I try calling out, I get this: http://pastebin.com/JGPa74EK
03:34.43MikeHah
03:34.45MikeHsolved that one
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03:53.57CaptWhoIs "asterisk now" the best build to set up a DID network for voip?
03:54.34WIMPyA what?
03:56.20CaptWhowe're going to be issued some DIDs from a company that provides access to the telephone switched network and i'm wondering if there is a specific build that would be good for handling that?  I've been exposed to "asterisk now", but are there different builds available?
03:57.44MikeHhrm, not I really am stuck. I've devised a voice menu in asterisk, which goes - Answer, Background, digit timeout
03:57.58MikeHhowever when calling that associated extension, it calls and immediately hangs up
03:58.47WIMPySure, but that shouldn't make any difference. There are differen GUIs however, but all of them limit your possibilities, if you plan to do a little more fancu stuff.
03:59.49CaptWhois there a breakdown of the different GUIs somewhere?
04:00.15WIMPyNot AFAIK.
04:01.20CaptWhothanks...  i wasn't aware that asterisk now was just a GUI for asterisk
04:02.11WIMPyIt isn't. It's centos+Asterisk[+freepbx|asteriskgui]
04:02.14MikeHCan anyone help me with my voice menu issue? Is there something I need to do before Answer()? or perhaps another step I'm missing?
04:05.43CaptWhoso there could be different GUIs installed over Asterisk NOW?
04:06.13MikeHthis is the menu: http://pastebin.com/mTDx9TYS
04:06.20WIMPyAFAIK it comes with those two. But you can install without.
04:07.03WIMPyMikeH: Maybe you want to add a WaitExten?
04:07.53MikeHhrm, I'm not sure I do? DOes that not just wait for the user to enter an extension number first?
04:08.13WIMPyOr thereafer.
04:08.35WIMPyWhen your welcome has finished, it's over.
04:08.59WIMPyI personally prefer to do it with read() instead.
04:09.08MikeHMy welcome never seems to start
04:09.18MikeHthe call is answered then dropped instantly
04:09.30WIMPyOh, right.
04:10.03WIMPyAlways strip the extension from the file name.
04:10.09MikeHah
04:10.30WIMPyAsterisk will decide itself what's the best available file.
04:11.01MikeH[Jan 30 12:09:46] WARNING[7151]: file.c:650 ast_openstream_full: File welcome does not exist in any format
04:11.01MikeH[Jan 30 12:09:46] WARNING[7151]: file.c:953 ast_streamfile: Unable to open welcome (format 0x4 (ulaw)): No such file or directory
04:11.07MikeHcould have something to do with it I guess :P
04:11.18WIMPyindeed
04:11.38MikeHit exists somewhere, as asteriskgui can play it back to me
04:11.46MikeHI wonder actually
04:12.08MikeHaah, I'm an idiot.
04:12.23justdaveanyone using asterisk w/ dahdi on RHEL5?  having trouble trying to get dahdi-linux to compile against the kernel in rhel 5.6.  here's the compile error I'm getting: http://it.pastebin.mozilla.org/1001944
04:12.37WIMPyMikeH: That's usually a "was" :-)
04:12.53MikeH'for custom recordings, please prepend the file with record/'
04:12.59MikeH:D
04:13.47MikeHwow
04:13.49MikeHthis is brilliant.
04:14.24MikeHI've got my voice menu, sip phone and incoming calling rules mostly sorted
04:14.31MikeHoutgoing works as well
04:18.32MikeHhrm
04:18.37MikeHI do have one more question
04:19.19MikeHIs it possible to add a user for an FXO line? (ie. to dial out a number when that user is called)
04:19.24MikeHI guess its just call forwarding really?
04:20.04WIMPyYou can put whatever you like in to Dial().
04:20.35MikeHwhere does that Dial() go?
04:20.52MikeHI basically need to create a call group
04:20.54WIMPyThe extension.
04:21.01MikeHok
04:21.16MikeHcan you refer me to documentation for this, so I can read up later?
04:21.30WIMPyAnd you can put multiple channels in to one Dial().
04:21.58MikeHBasically (I think its a call group I need) when calling the group, both one extension should ring, and another 'extension' should ring by dialing a number over one of the trunks.
04:21.59WIMPyIt's just an extension like any other.
04:22.59WIMPyJust put both destionations in there.
04:23.35WIMPyThere is no concept of something being local. There are just destinations.
04:27.51MikeHthanks
04:28.00MikeHplagued with teething issues this evening :/
04:28.17MikeHwhen dialing out via the gsm line, it works fine
04:28.28justdavelooks like something it doesn't like in the new kernel source
04:28.31MikeHbut when dialing out via the analogue card there isn't any audio :/
04:28.36justdaveif I back down two versions of kernel it works
04:29.36WIMPyAnalog is evil.
04:29.43MikeHbut when dialing in via the analogue card, everything works fine.
04:30.32WIMPyjustdave: The only thin i know of it that DAHDI relies on the BKL being enables which is no longer the default, but your issue looks like something I haven't heard about.
04:30.38p3nguin~newbook
04:30.39infobotHelp review the 3rd edition of the Asterisk book published by O'Reilly at http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/  Released under a Creative Commons license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/
04:30.47p3nguinmikeh: ^^^^^^
04:32.40MikeHright, just this dial out extension and fax detection to go
04:32.58MikeHI'll take a look at that book, thanks p3nguin
04:33.34beebuuhow to know which called part pickup when dial(sip/1001&sip/1002) run?
04:36.20justdaveWIMPy: anything I can provide to help debug?
04:36.23p3nguinbeebuu: You want to know which device answers the call?
04:37.09WIMPyjustdave: I guess you have to dig the source.
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04:40.23beebuup3nguin: yes,like dahdi/1 etc
04:40.57p3nguinbeebuu: If you Dial SIP/1001 and SIP/1002, it would be pretty hard for Dahdi/1 to answer it.
04:41.25WIMPyForwarding? :-)
04:41.51beebuup3nguin: just for example. i want to know which one is answer the call by dial mulit number?
04:42.39beebuuanyone know this?
04:43.13WIMPybeebuu: I think you need to listen on AMI for that.
04:43.50beebuuWIMPy: can it be known in dialplan?
04:44.21WIMPyI don't think so. But I'm not sure.
04:44.22p3nguinI don't think it can be done in dialplan until after the call ends.
04:45.01WIMPyYes, the CDR variables should show it.
04:45.32beebuuOh, any suggestion else? please
04:46.04WIMPyUse AMI.
04:46.21beebuunot easy way?
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04:46.49WIMPyWhe exactely do you want to know?
04:46.54WIMPyOr in order to do what?
04:48.02beebuui want to dial mulit numbers and when one is answer, i want to redirect it to some one
04:49.03beebuudial mulit number can save time than call one by one
04:49.13WIMPySo you want to end the connection and setup the next?
04:50.02beebuuno,let it talk to a agent if someone pickup
04:50.37beebuuas you know,many number maybe no one answer
04:50.50WIMPyThat's what happens when someone picks up.
04:51.04WIMPyI don't get what you try to do.
04:51.16beebuuredirect to a agent
04:51.27carrarHow about let the Agent answer?
04:51.38carrarusing queues and agents
04:51.52WIMPyWho do you dial then?
04:51.59p3nguinSomeone doesn't understand call setup and dialplan.
04:52.11carrarheh
04:52.17carrarnow who could that be
04:52.57WIMPyA local saying goes: Always the one who asks.
04:53.52beebuui want to do this: make asterik to call 3 or more number,when one of them pickup, call a agent to answer.
04:54.04p3nguinLet me make sure I understand this.  He's asking to call an arbitrary SIP device and have that device forward to some agent channel?
04:54.10beebuui think this will save some time
04:54.11WIMPyAnd who is the one that answers?
04:54.28beebuuWIMPy: it doesn't matter
04:54.45p3nguinWhy not just call the agent channels to begin with?
04:54.52WIMPyIf it doesn't matter, what is the question?
04:55.10beebuuWIMPy: sorry,i make a mistake.
04:55.11WIMPyThe whple story doesn't make any sense to me so far.
04:55.30WIMPyMaybe you should describe exactely what you want to do/happen.
04:55.39p3nguinStop worrying about the SIP devices and call the Agent channel you want to take the call.
04:55.56beebuuWIMPy: yes,let me try it following
04:56.33WIMPyStart at the beginning.
04:57.30beebuui got many numbers, now my agents call them one bye one,i think that's waste time, why can i make mulit number at one time?
04:57.50carrarhaha
04:58.35WIMPyAh, so you want an extremely dumb version of an "predictive" dialler?
04:58.42beebuuand if someone is answered,call back my agents,it does't need my agents to wait so many time
04:58.47WIMPyTo piss even more customers off?
04:59.24beebuuyes
04:59.26WIMPyThat "off" would be better in the front, wouln't it?
04:59.53beebuupredictive--- this is good name for me
05:00.09WIMPyClearly a misnomer.
05:00.41beebuuWIMPy: so what's that name in fact?
05:01.04WIMPyThat is the name.
05:01.16WIMPyBut there's nothing predictive about it.
05:01.18beebuuand now,how can i do that?
05:01.47WIMPyIt's just a way to maximise customers that complain to the relevant bodies.
05:02.14WIMPyYou can buy or rent them.
05:02.20carrarhttp://tinyurl.com/4nj2b6f
05:02.36WIMPyAnd in some countries you risk getting shut down.
05:03.08beebuuWIMPy: in fact,my agents need to talk to them
05:03.33beebuucarrar: thanks
05:03.47WIMPyThen make up a good excuse why you hung up on them several times before.
05:04.20p3nguinheh
05:04.29p3nguinYeah.  That's illegal here.
05:04.42WIMPyHere as well.
05:05.14WIMPyWell, not exactely, but there have been cases of call centers being cut off the net for doing so.
05:06.16WIMPyThat was ruled as being harassment
05:06.43WIMPyWhich I think is fair enough.
05:06.44beebuuWIMPy: i want to know the way, could you tell me please?
05:07.11WIMPyYou got that link to google, didn't you?
05:07.52beebuuOh....thanks,at lease i got it's realname
05:08.44beebuuleast
05:08.47WIMPyAnd better ask a lawyer.
05:09.11beebuuWIMPy: thanks for your help
05:09.23beebuuand carrar,p3nguiin
05:09.24p3nguinToo bad you aren't in the US.  It is written out very clearly by the FCC and FTC.
05:09.45p3nguinNot much reason to ask a lawyer here.  Just read the documents by yourself.
05:10.07beebuup3nguin: Oh, can i read that in any URL about FCC and FTC?
05:10.43WIMPyIf it's not illeagal, the customers will take care of that, I'm sure.
05:11.09p3nguinhttp://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/tcpa.html
05:11.17beebuuWIMPy: yes it's not
05:11.31beebuuin my place
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07:08.55DNDhi guys i have digium fax free license installed. i wanted to know if this can only receive fax or can also send?
07:14.15p3nguinboth
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07:18.18DNDp3nguin you know hoe can i send faxes?
07:18.29DNDcan i do it like tel-number@domain.com?
07:20.18DNDor maybe i setup faxing in windows ?
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07:32.30Dovidhi all.
07:33.04Dovidif i want to build sound files for all codecs. is there any simple way of doing it with out rebuilding the entire asterisk?
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07:55.03baldrailershello world
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08:04.29p3nguindnd: Yeah, use the fax apps.
08:05.02p3nguindnd: You can use the free stuff or the Digium stuff (free or non-free).
08:05.36p3nguindnd: I've done it both ways and if I remember right, I had better luck with the free Digium stuff.
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12:47.30MikeHhrm
12:47.54MikeHI'm trying to create an extension that automatically forwards to an external number via a specific trunk
12:48.00MikeHcan anyone point me in the right direction?
12:48.53DovidMiekH: Are you using some sort of gui or "vanilla Asterisk" ?
12:51.35MikeHDovid, I'm using AsteriskGUI but have no qualms in doing it 'by hand' as it were.
13:08.51MikeHI can do it via a voice menu, but I want to do it as a user/extension ideally so I can use it as part of a call group
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13:12.41MikeHanyone? :/
13:13.25Tozz_not sure if I understand right
13:13.35Tozz_but wouldn't Dial(SIP/number@trunk) do the trick?
13:13.50MikeHwhere?
13:14.10Tozz_in your extensions.conf
13:14.29Tozz_exten => 1234,1,Dial(SIP/number@trunk)
13:14.32Tozz_where 1234 is the incoming number
13:15.32MikeHunder any particular heading?
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13:17.23Tozz_perhaps you need to read some documentation to get the basics
13:18.40MikeHwell, I've managed everything else but this.
13:33.01MikeHhrm, so I fugured that out
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13:36.43MikeHhrm, it would seem you cannot use a ringgroup in Goto()
13:36.47MikeHis there another way to do it?
13:39.08Tozz_what is it you want to accomplish?
13:40.45MikeHto have both a SIP extension and an 'extension' by dialing out ring at the same time
13:40.47MikeHI'm close
13:41.01MikeHI've set up 6001 which dials an external number.
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13:41.19MikeHIn my voice menu, I've done exten = 1,1,Dial(SIP/6000&Local/6001,40,${DIALOPTIONS}i)
13:41.29MikeHDOesn't quite work as desired though
13:41.44MikeH6001 only rings for one ring.
13:43.14MikeHso I think it is calling 6000 for one ring, giving up, then you get blank while it tryies to connect my DIalout on 6001, then you hear the dialout ringing.
13:44.36MikeH*6000 only rings for one ring, rather
13:52.14leifmadsenMikeH: well that would mean 6000 is either answering, rejecting the call, or something else
13:52.32MikeHnope
13:52.47MikeHI think my issue is that I'm using failover macro for 6001
13:52.58leifmadsenwell all we can do is guess since you haven't provided any debugging information
13:53.25MikeHI'm not sure how to select an analogue trunk when using DIAL()
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13:59.10MikeHnope, that isn't the issue :/
13:59.50MikeHI figured out how to do it directly to the trunk
14:00.03MikeHthe only thing in console other than echo cancellation errors is ' == Spawn extension (voicemenu-custom-1, 1, 1) exited non-zero on 'DAHDI/5-1''
14:00.28MikeHthis is what I have in my voice menu: exten = 1,1,Dial(SIP/6000&DAHDI/g2/075154xxxx,40,${DIALOPTIONS}i)
14:04.27leifmadsenglad you figured it out
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14:05.03MikeHI get the same issue though, 6001 rings once, then silence while the second dial connects, then the mobile rings.
14:05.17MikeHIt seems I can do this with 'followme' in AsteriskGUI though, so I'm going to try this.
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14:16.42MikeHwhy is nothing ever simple
14:16.45MikeHfollowme doesn't seem to work
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14:43.27MikeHHrm, the above issue is present when using queues
14:43.36MikeHI set up a queue with two agents
14:43.55MikeHa SIP extension and DAHDI/g2/07xxxxxx
14:44.05MikeHcall the queue, sip extension rings once
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14:44.16MikeHthen it moves on to ringing the mobile
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14:55.16mechbangirchi i am calling a person in a meetme conference through Local channel. Why dont i hear his ring tone?
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15:25.50cuscohow do you call someone trough a meetme?»
15:25.58cuscoonce you're in a meet me you'r not calling anyone
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15:59.20benlangfeldHey guys, I'm trying to get Dial() NOT to cause the calling party to hear a ringing tone, but I can't find anything to this effect. I can only find the inverse. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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15:59.28iulhkhi all
15:59.44cuscobenlangfeld: there is a flag that makes them ear moh instead
16:00.04benlangfeldcusco: So just give them silence for MOH? Good idea. Cheers
16:00.42iulhki hv installed asterisk now testing video call, at my server i hv firewall configured, i hv allowed ports for sip 5060, for rtp 10000:20000, do i need to enable ports for video rtp too?
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16:02.56cuscocheck /etc/asterisk/h323.conf there is a port arg
16:02.59cuscoother than that, no
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16:05.09SparFux1Hello all. With the DAHDI driver, is the xpp part able to drive HFC PCI 2 channel bri cards by today?
16:05.33iulhk<cusco> : for video i m using sip not h323 ,,, do i still need to check h323?
16:05.47WIMPySparFux1: xpp?
16:07.05youngproguruAnyone used Android 2.3 SIP with Asterisk. It is Awesome on Verizon Data. The only catch is that your SIP Realm needs to match your public Domain or SIP will not authenticate.
16:07.47chiwawa_42WIMPy: in case you're still interested in our little experiment, yate + IAXconfig + mgetty let us get a serial shell on a linux box with a v.21 modulation (300bps). That all we could get yet with existing software, because most hardware modems don't support any other modulation
16:07.59WIMPySparFux1: What kind of hardware are you on about?
16:08.03chiwawa_42having v32 or v34 would mean a great deal
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16:09.34MikeHAny suggestions why simultaneous dials and queues would cause a sip client in the list to jsut ring once then stop, and then move onto the second number (external)
16:10.13MikeHhttp://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=76948&sid=2c9b0487d6df40b0aec24f2c0c415cb2
16:10.17WIMPychiwawa_42: V.21 sonds VERY different from V.34. I can test up to V.90 (bot directions).
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16:11.04chiwawa_42WIMPy: well, we have no software implementation of v.90 or v92 to glue to spandsp :s
16:11.39WIMPychiwawa_42: If you have V.34, V.90 should be easy, I guess.
16:12.11chiwawa_42we don't have v.34, spandsp author said its cluttered by too many pattents to be distributed in an open-source package
16:12.28coppiceV.90 takes a *lot* more code than V.34, and V.34 is a big job
16:12.33SparFux1WIMPy: it's a cologne HFC-S PCI  bri card.
16:12.54SparFux1WIMPy: I find stuff in drivers/dahdi/xpp about HFC and bri. That's why I am asking myself.
16:13.10chiwawa_42coppice: v32 or v32bis would be sufficient
16:13.25WIMPySparFux1: Then you want wcb4xxp.
16:13.37WIMPyTry http://voice.yeti.dk/Asterisk_vs_ISDN :-)
16:13.59coppicewell, V.32bis is like 2 V.17 modems back to back + echo cancellation + an elaborate new training sequence
16:14.12SparFux1WIMPy: means, I do not even need the zaphfc stuff indeed?
16:14.28WIMPycoppice: Why should V.90 be such a big deal once you've got V.34 working? But I agree that V.34 prabably is a big deal.
16:14.44chiwawa_42coppice: so, having v17 already supported by spandsp, v32bis could actually be possible to implement ?
16:15.21coppiceWIMPy: V.90 is V.34 in one direction, and something horribly complex to doin the other
16:16.14WIMPyComplex? As it uses the full bandwidth there can't be any modulation?
16:16.27chiwawa_42coppice: all we want is a full duplex modulation, fast enough to use text-mode IP applications
16:16.33SparFux1WIMPy: I think wcb4xpp is for quad bri. I have single bri I am afraid.
16:17.08WIMPySparFux1: Didn't you say dual above?
16:17.24SparFux1WIMPy: sry, dual channel I ment two channels only.
16:17.31chiwawa_42coppice: the goal of the project is to spawn as many dial up services as possible for the egyptian people, using SIP trunks to transport the channels from local phone numbers
16:17.33coppiceWIMPy: what do you mean by that?
16:17.34WIMPyAh
16:17.45SparFux1WIMPy: couldn't in theory the quad bri be tweaked to support single bri?
16:17.46MikeHWIMPy, When you mentioned about simply using dial() when wanting to divert to an outside line last night, are there any caveats to it working like this?
16:17.56MikeHI can't get simultaneous calls working properly like this
16:18.03coppicechiwaw42: are you the person who e-mailed me yesterday about this?
16:18.04WIMPySparFux1: Ok, then you find the answer(s) on that page.
16:18.21chiwawa_42coppice: if you're the author of spandsp, yes, that's me
16:18.37chiwawa_42Steve ? is that you ? :p
16:18.38SparFux1ok thx. just stepped over it again because of the bri stuff in xpp dir. I once saw this page, but 'll check it out again more thoroughly :-)
16:18.53WIMPycoppice: It transmits 64kbps on a 64kbps channel. So that must be bit transparent.
16:19.12chiwawa_42WIMPy: yes but it has to be supported by hardware PSTN modems too
16:19.29WIMPyMikeH: There's nothing special, no.
16:19.40MikeHWIMPy, any ideas on this - http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=76948&sid=2c9b0487d6df40b0aec24f2c0c415cb2 ?
16:19.48coppiceWIMPy: not at all. it has to get through an analogue link of poorly known characteristics to get to the 64k digital channel, and you need to jump through hoops to make that work
16:20.14MikeHessentially, the sip extenion rings once then stops, then it dials out to the mobile
16:20.23MikeHrather than them both rining simultaneously
16:20.26MikeH*ringing
16:20.38coppiceWIMPy: the client and server V.90 modems are very different, but both very complex
16:20.41WIMPycoppice: But there is nothing you CAN do. You only have 64kbit.
16:21.00SparFux1WIMPy: have you ever tried to use the quad bri with single bri hfc card?
16:21.40WIMPyMikeH: Maybe that doesn;t work with analog lines? No idea.
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16:22.04WIMPySparFux1: That doesn't work.
16:22.14SparFux1hm... ok, thx for the info :-)
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16:22.58WIMPycoppice: I know. The "server" side needs a bit transparent connection.
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16:23.26WIMPySparFux1: Maybe it could be patched. I don't know.
16:24.03SparFux1WIMPy: yes, would be interesting if this would be possible. Maybe it's more elegant than having zaphfc for single bri.
16:24.32WIMPyI don't know how much differences there are between single and multi port chips.
16:27.21WIMPyBut I didn't notice the xpp stuff was about HFC. I should take a closer look at that, I guess.
16:27.43SparFux1WIMPy: I found it by accident due to latest svn update :-P
16:28.26SparFux1drivers/dahdi/xpp/card_bri.c is all about bri stuff.
16:28.55MikeHWIMPy, Are there any other options?
16:29.32WIMPyMikeH: Turn up debug and verbose and see if there's any hint, what's going on.
16:30.18WIMPyMikeH: But I suspect interface configuration/limitations.
16:30.43coppiceA V.90 modem is an amazing piece of work, it uses practically every modulation trick so far devised to get the data through a single analogue link
16:31.20MikeHWIMPy, is there any such mechanism such as a virtual line, or even a sip client that could handle the call forwarding?
16:31.43WIMPyMikeH: Not sure what you mean by that.
16:32.01chiwawa_42coppice: but is it robust ? I mean, can it still work on a degraded voice channel ? I guess older protocols will be more resilient, aint them ?
16:32.02MikeHWIMPy, Well you seem to suggest that perhaps its a limitation of the interface
16:32.15WIMPycoppice: I'd still like to know how you could possibly modulate 64kbps into 64kbps.
16:32.29MikeHWIMPy, Perhaps a solution is to have something third party like a sip client take the call and call forward back via asterisk?
16:33.01WIMPyMikeH: Yes, it probably isn;t ablte to or not configured to detect answer.
16:33.20WIMPyMikeH: What difference could that make?
16:33.57MikeHhrm fair point
16:34.00coppicechiwawa42: if you want a  modem that's robust enough to work over a variety of paths, you want V.32bis or V.34
16:34.14MikeHso you're suggesting that it is probably a case that what I want to do just isn't possible?
16:35.08chiwawa_42coppice: so, let's focus on the simpliest to implement ;)
16:35.31WIMPyMikeH: Possibly. I don't know if thare's any polarity reversal on answer possible that might just need to be configured.
16:35.42MikeHI've enabled console debug and verbose in logging.conf, but I don't seem to get anything more through the console than I did before :/
16:35.48WIMPyMikeH: But analog does have some limitations.
16:38.52MikeHWIMPy, I think you were right. If I turn Answer on polarity switch to on for the GSM card, it works
16:39.03MikeHexcept when I answer it doesn't detect. :/
16:39.56WIMPyOn the GSM??? That is digital and shouldn't cause any problems.
16:40.33MikeHGSM is listed as analog
16:41.12WIMPyThat doesn't make sense.
16:45.11MikeH:/
16:45.12MikeHpass
16:45.36MikeHcall progress doesn't work either
16:46.49MikeHis there no way to detect answer like followme does?
16:47.06MikeHIe. play a message and wait for a specified dtmf tone?
16:47.10WIMPyMikeH: Maybe the driver is just incomplete?
16:47.59WIMPyI think there is an option to Dial(), yes.
16:48.02Kyoshbesides x-lite, whats a decent SIP phone thats not crippled (like x-lite)?
16:48.30Kobaztwinkle
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16:48.59Kobazit would be cool if there was a twinkle for windows though
16:49.50MikeHWIMPy, Perhaps I'll speak to Atcom and see if it can be implemented
16:50.54WIMPyMikeH: I think that kind of functionality should be expected from a product with that price.
16:51.13WIMPyBut maybe it's jsut some fancy configuration option.
16:51.18MikeHare there any alternative gsm cards that actually work?
16:51.45WIMPyI haven't tried any.
16:51.57WIMPyJunghanns.net springs to mind.
16:53.03WIMPyAs those guys also did the bristuff, I think it's safe to assume that kind of thing works with their cards.
16:53.11MikeHlol
16:53.13MikeH£772
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16:54.40WIMPyThe cheapest option would be an USB stick with chan_datacard. But I can't comment on that, either. The sticks I've got have voice disabled :-(
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17:05.42WIMPyHmm. xpp "without BRISTUFF support". Looks like that's getting ugly once again.
17:10.19WIMPyBut certainly nothig from dahdi_hardware or dahdi_scan.
17:11.39WIMPyhalt
17:11.49WIMPyoops
17:13.11iulhkgetting problem when trying video call, call disconnecting after 15-20 seconds, pls check the console logs at "http://paste.ubuntu.com/560304/"?
17:30.53youngproguruYour disconnect might be the SIP Timer setting. I had the same issue with Aastra phones, and Asterisk 1.6
17:40.17manjiiulhk, you are probably behind NAT
17:40.33manjiand the ACK packet from the other end
17:40.41manjinever made it to your asterisk bo
17:40.42manjix
17:40.56manjiso you need a port forwarding
17:41.37iulhk<manji>: one other thing, for audio we have to enable 10000:20000 ports for rtp, for video do i need to enable any other ports?
17:41.54manjiiulhk, I don't think so
17:43.03iulhk<manji>: another things .. as i m already behind the nat and where i m , there is sip port block so i hv already forwareded some other non-standard ports redirect to 5060, do u think it can b disconnecting ?
17:43.42manjicould be the reason, yeap
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17:46.57p3nguinRTP is "media."  I think that encompasses all media, like audio and video.
17:47.56drmessanoYep, which is why asterisk is able to do video to the limited extent that it does
17:48.08WIMPyThat's what I think as well. And the message moans about SIP, not RTP.
17:48.10drmessanoIt just directs the RTP stream
17:56.49ruiedHi! I'm using asterisk 1.8.3.  When I',m compiling lcr with chan_lcr, it reports an error ralated to asterisk channel.h:1099. I'm using lcr 1.7 and 2.6.37 kernel. Could this be something related to asterisk or to lcr?
17:57.51p3nguin1.8.3 has already been released?
17:58.00tzafrir_laptopruied, please pastebin more details
17:58.08tzafrir_laptopit has been tagged
17:58.25tzafrir_laptopbut maybe he means 1.8.2.3
17:59.34ruiedtzafrir_laptop, yes, it's 1.8.2.3    http://pastebin.com/kx9rbQAW
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17:59.50WIMPyruied: For Asterisk 1.8 you need the lcr asterisk_1_8 branch from git.
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18:01.01WIMPyOr the patch from http://voice.yeti.dk/patches/
18:02.22ruiedWIMPy, ok, going to take a try
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20:42.57neurosysI have a cisco 871 router. From wireshark info, it appears that somehow, asterisk picks up the routers externip for the record-route. it is at .177... but the asterisk system is natted to .178. It happens randomly and of course the call disconnects when the SIP ACK doesnt return to .178, it returns to .177
20:43.00neurosysAny thoughts?
20:47.01StaRetjicheck your router, it must be some mistake with NAT
20:47.20neurosysStaRetji:  I would believe you're right. Im just not a proficent with IOS and NAt :(
20:47.37neurosysStaRetji:  I just find it strange that it's seemingly random
20:47.46StaRetjiIOS?
20:47.52StaRetjilike iphone os?
20:48.00neurosysNo. Cisco IOS
20:48.03StaRetjilol
20:48.40StaRetjiwell, don't know about cisco, but I'm familiar with Mikrotik and networking
20:48.46StaRetjiit goes like this
20:49.05StaRetjilocal ip (i.e 10.0.0.2) is address of your asterisk server
20:49.47StaRetjipublic ip (ie 192.168.0.178) is public address which you have to assign to Asterisk
20:51.07StaRetjiso, src-nat or source nat should be: src-address  10.0.0.2 src-nat 192.168.1.178
20:51.12neurosysOh i understand the concept. Like I said.. it works... but every so often, * will get the routers externIP and place it in the record-route. The address for the router (.177) not the staticed nat IP (.178)
20:51.16StaRetjinow, you have to do vice versa for dst-nar
20:51.24manjineurosys, your router is sip aware
20:51.37manjiand it is messing with your sip messages
20:51.50manjisearch on google how to disable SIP on IOS nat
20:51.50neurosysmanji:  Not that Im aware of. also... I do not have any type of inspect sip or global policy for classes
20:52.05manjineurosys, might be by default
20:52.29manjibut if your router is changing things inrecord route
20:52.38StaRetjiwell, I'll be damned, who would put something like that in router, by default :/
20:52.46neurosyshmm. If that were the case, I should be able to remove the externip variable and it should "just work"
20:52.54manjithen it is doing more than forwarding packets
20:52.56neurosysStaRetji:  CISCO! :P
20:53.15manjiNAT is rewritting the TCP/UDP headers
20:53.30manjiand only
20:53.55neurosysmanji:  The packet header has the source correctly (.178) , its inside the sip header that has the new record-route added
20:54.08manjineurosys, that's what I am saying
20:54.39manjino one but a sip proxy can do that
20:54.41manjiwrite?
20:54.46manjiright?
20:55.19manjineurosys, I may be wrong, but you can just chase it up a bt
20:55.19neurosysmanji:  I would say that's right.
20:55.20manjibit
20:55.32StaRetjiwell, cisco sux
20:55.41neurosysStaRetji:  hehe
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20:55.58manjiStaRetji, it doesnt suck
20:56.16StaRetjiI just checked Mikrotik, if you want to set something like that, you use mangle, blah blah
20:57.22manjineurosys, mmm, you are not behind nat, I just realized
20:57.31neurosysmanji:  I am
20:57.48manjiok
20:57.53manjiI misread
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23:59.42CoffeeIVI am debugging why 1.6.2 (on Ubuntu) doesn't play a entry and exit beep on conference calls.  It's using ConfBridge, and the q option is not set.  But in logs I don't see any failure to read a wav file or anything.  Any suggestions ?

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