| 00:01.09 | Katty | showertime! |
| 00:01.11 | Katty | afks |
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| 00:06.30 | Falle_ | Anyone here any good with cmd Pickup? I want to pick up another line but all asterisk says is: ast_get_group: Ignoring invalid group 254372403 (maximum group is 63). Command used: PickUp(254372403@PICKUPMARK). Also I've set the PICKUPMARK on the actual exten that i want to pic up. Any ideas? |
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| 00:12.13 | Falle_ | my bad. The command is PickUp(0254372403@PICKUPMARK). The leading 0 seems to be removed. |
| 00:12.44 | Falle_ | Maybe pickup doesn't support extensions starting with a 0? |
| 00:13.44 | loather-work | sounds like a bug if it's stripping the first digit |
| 00:13.48 | loather-work | i'd report it to digium |
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| 00:18.13 | Falle_ | ok. I guess I'll do that. I've googled this but i find nothing regarding leading 0's. And all my extensions have leading 0's(area code). I just dont want to make an unesesery bugreport if this is a "feature" that i dont know of. |
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| 00:29.06 | metfan2007 | Hi all!! |
| 00:29.22 | Falle_ | hi |
| 00:29.46 | metfan2007 | do you know any sip or iax client for blackberry devices to work with Asterisk? |
| 00:30.08 | Falle_ | never tried it, sorry |
| 00:31.00 | metfan2007 | thnks, and another question |
| 00:32.22 | metfan2007 | I have setup a queue in an asterisk box, 20 agents for inbound calls, for some reason some calls still looping in the queue, while there are available agents, after 40 or in some cases 60 seconds the call is routed to an agent, any idea? |
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| 00:40.44 | jblack | oh man, I just found ustream, and it works with my phone. |
| 00:41.07 | jblack | i can like, record stuff and put it up. sooo cool |
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| 01:03.24 | Whtsup | anyone know abt a2billing |
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| 01:58.23 | debuggerboy | Can asterisk work on a 56k PCI Modem? I have a working conexant 56k PCI modem on my Ubuntu 8.04 (not used for internet connectio). I use adsl. How can I use this like a analog phone card in asterisk? |
| 01:58.43 | Chainsaw | debuggerboy: You can't. You need a telephony adapter, not a modem. |
| 01:59.03 | debuggerboy | oh god! bad luck! |
| 01:59.22 | debuggerboy | how much a analog phone card will cost me? |
| 01:59.50 | Chainsaw | It depends on what you need. A 4-port card with hardware echo cancellation is going to cost more then some cheap & cheerful 1-port thing that leaves the work to the PC. |
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| 02:02.20 | debuggerboy | I googled a lot, and got the wicked idea like "conexant 56k PCI may work with asterisk". Thats why I asked. |
| 02:03.22 | Chainsaw | You were planning to save money with some sound cards and a soldering iron, yeah. |
| 02:03.22 | Chainsaw | Not how it works, sorry. |
| 02:03.34 | debuggerboy | ;-) |
| 02:03.46 | drmessano | ha |
| 02:10.22 | drmessano | Sony greenlights Men in Black 3, the most anticipated movie of 1999 <---- |
| 02:15.40 | joat | assumes that focus of MIB3 will be the pug dog |
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| 02:21.01 | ppc | yo |
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| 02:23.21 | darkdrgn2k | any one know of a voip provider that gives a flat rate termination in a specific area code? |
| 02:24.56 | ian6 | most of them? |
| 02:25.25 | Katty | just watched ice age 3 :> |
| 02:25.37 | darkdrgn2k | ian6: such as |
| 02:25.43 | Katty | :>>> |
| 02:26.04 | ian6 | les.net is the first that comes to mind. |
| 02:26.36 | darkdrgn2k | Usage Fee: $0.015/Minute |
| 02:26.57 | darkdrgn2k | im looking for a fixed monthly rate |
| 02:27.16 | ian6 | hrm. When did that change. |
| 02:27.32 | drmessano | les.net never offered unlimited monthly termination |
| 02:27.47 | ian6 | I guess I'm just crazy then. |
| 02:27.59 | darkdrgn2k | any ideas where else i could look? |
| 02:28.22 | drmessano | Your best bet is a virtual PRI from somewhere |
| 02:28.53 | drmessano | Theres no one I have seen with just an unlimited termination package.. thats relatively impossible to justify |
| 02:29.21 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: LOL actualy oen company i do work for has a outsourced MCS based service.. |
| 02:29.33 | darkdrgn2k | they provide accounts with unlimited channels per account :-P |
| 02:29.42 | drmessano | VPRI |
| 02:29.55 | mchou | drmessano: I need some clarity regarding sip. (not really a question limited to asterisk) |
| 02:30.16 | darkdrgn2k | but i dont need unlimited channels.. |
| 02:30.17 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: Lots of companies offer unlimited channels for termination.. |
| 02:30.35 | darkdrgn2k | but they do it at a flat rate per account |
| 02:30.42 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: yep |
| 02:30.50 | darkdrgn2k | can you suggest one i could look at? |
| 02:31.08 | mchou | drmessano: if both sip endpoints are behind nat, what rwuired to be cable to have the media stream directly betw. endpoints? |
| 02:31.18 | mchou | requires* |
| 02:31.21 | drmessano | I'm not sure what you want here.. Unlimited channels or unlimited minutes at a fixed rate |
| 02:31.29 | mchou | bah, required* |
| 02:31.31 | drmessano | Those are not the same |
| 02:31.35 | darkdrgn2k | minutes.. |
| 02:31.56 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: Again, get a VPRI.. otherwise its pretty impossible to find |
| 02:32.14 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: ive seen vpri for DIDs not for termination |
| 02:32.37 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: Thats not the same thing |
| 02:32.44 | darkdrgn2k | oviously |
| 02:32.55 | darkdrgn2k | soooooo whre can i look |
| 02:34.09 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: I just told you, and youre not listening.. Maybe I should make this simpler.. A VIRTUAL PRI is what you want... a VPRI by most peoples definition is a single channel with unlimited inbound and outbound, as it represents a single channel of a telco PRI flat rate circuit |
| 02:34.41 | darkdrgn2k | ok.. |
| 02:34.44 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: I have NEVER seen unlimited inbound + a DID represented as a VPRI |
| 02:36.00 | darkdrgn2k | dam.. what was that company |
| 02:36.02 | darkdrgn2k | somtehig flow. |
| 02:36.08 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: Flowroute |
| 02:36.26 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: and thats not "unlimited".. its just a high limit within reason.. |
| 02:36.49 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: No one is going to offer truly unlimited.. it would easily be abused |
| 02:36.58 | darkdrgn2k | i figured that |
| 02:37.05 | darkdrgn2k | but how is that one company doing it |
| 02:37.14 | drmessano | Theyre not |
| 02:37.16 | mchou | lol |
| 02:37.17 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: and thats not "unlimited".. its just a high limit within reason.. |
| 02:37.23 | mchou | magicjack! |
| 02:37.23 | drmessano | Do you even read? |
| 02:37.33 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: ok thers not such thing as UNLIMITED |
| 02:37.34 | mchou | skype! |
| 02:37.35 | darkdrgn2k | but it was dam high! |
| 02:37.50 | darkdrgn2k | but like i said i dont care about unlimited channels.. |
| 02:37.55 | darkdrgn2k | id be happy with 2 channels |
| 02:38.07 | drmessano | 2x 17.95 IIRC |
| 02:38.15 | drmessano | So $36 |
| 02:38.31 | darkdrgn2k | ok but on flowroute it shows that under incomming |
| 02:38.39 | darkdrgn2k | for the "unlimited vpri" |
| 02:38.42 | drmessano | God damn |
| 02:38.53 | mchou | who's on first? |
| 02:38.56 | darkdrgn2k | ok |
| 02:38.57 | darkdrgn2k | - A Virtual PRI is ideal for medium to large sized businesses. This will allow you to have pool of inbound channels to which you can tie any of your DIDs. Any DID tied to your Virtual PRI will receive unlimited free incoming calls. All you pay is a monthly cost per channel in your Virtual PRI. |
| 02:39.06 | darkdrgn2k | i want OUTBOUND |
| 02:39.23 | darkdrgn2k | ok so WHAT am i missing here |
| 02:40.13 | drmessano | I KNOW YOU WANT OUTBOUND |
| 02:40.16 | darkdrgn2k | ok |
| 02:40.18 | drmessano | WE JUST WENT OVER THSI |
| 02:40.20 | drmessano | WTF |
| 02:40.34 | darkdrgn2k | ok.. flowroute doesnt do outbound vpri then.. |
| 02:40.35 | mchou | drmessano: dont pop a vein |
| 02:40.37 | darkdrgn2k | am i correct? |
| 02:40.52 | drmessano | No, I was correct that you dont read |
| 02:41.03 | darkdrgn2k | @#%#^$#&$ |
| 02:41.04 | drmessano | $17.95 for unlimited inbound is hardly correct |
| 02:41.39 | mchou | drmessano: I have to admit I'm confused too |
| 02:42.04 | darkdrgn2k | ok, let me reask then.. Where can i find a OUTBOUND VPRI service? |
| 02:42.09 | mchou | flowroute language is a bit weird |
| 02:42.20 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: FLOWROUTE |
| 02:42.23 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: VPRI |
| 02:42.35 | drmessano | $17.95 a month |
| 02:42.51 | darkdrgn2k | ok so the fact their VPRI is under "inbound route" is just them being duches? |
| 02:45.26 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: I hear Vonage is pretty nice |
| 02:45.29 | PMantis | I want to compile dahdi-linux in a chroot for a kernel that's there, but make complains that it can't find the source for the kernel that's installed on my laptop. Apparently a chroot doesn't hide "uname -r". Any way around this? |
| 02:45.36 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: maybe you should try Vonage |
| 02:45.42 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: yeh... vonage... sure... |
| 02:45.47 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: im not an idiot.. |
| 02:45.54 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: No, actually, you are |
| 02:46.22 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: ok you know what....... |
| 02:46.31 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: this is irc... i shoudl have known to expect this :-S |
| 02:47.08 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: ask a SIMPLE question get an a$$ backwards answer and then be told your an idiot for not understanding it |
| 02:47.09 | mchou | drmessano: hold on one sec. Seriously, I'm confused by flowroute's VPRI description too |
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| 02:47.33 | darkdrgn2k | thankx mcou |
| 02:47.37 | darkdrgn2k | doesnt feel completly hopless now |
| 02:48.05 | mchou | drmessano: flowroute says pay $18/channel/mo, all you can eat inbound |
| 02:48.33 | drmessano | mchou: Really, so why do they offer $7 a month, per channel, all you can eat inbound with a DID? |
| 02:48.40 | mchou | drmessano: that's what I get out of their description.... |
| 02:48.45 | drmessano | mchou: Really, so why do they offer $7 a month, per channel, all you can eat inbound with a DID? |
| 02:48.50 | darkdrgn2k | points out the service is under INBOUND not OUTBOUND |
| 02:49.13 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: from what i understand from the description is you buy channels and dids seperattly, kinda like a REAL pri |
| 02:49.20 | drmessano | Nope |
| 02:49.59 | darkdrgn2k | ok then they need a new copy writer |
| 02:50.00 | darkdrgn2k | "This will allow you to have pool of inbound channels to which you can tie any of your DIDs. Any DID tied to your Virtual PRI will receive unlimited free incoming calls" |
| 02:50.35 | drmessano | Yeah, for 99 cents a month you can pile another DID onto those VPRIs |
| 02:50.55 | mchou | drmessano: the $7 is tied to ONE DID |
| 02:51.06 | drmessano | Yes, I know |
| 02:51.28 | mchou | drmessano: the $18 can be spread across as many DIDs as I want |
| 02:51.36 | mchou | (apparently) |
| 02:51.52 | darkdrgn2k | (oviosuly paying for the actual did seperatly) |
| 02:51.55 | mchou | that's according to flowroute description |
| 02:51.59 | drmessano | and? |
| 02:52.06 | darkdrgn2k | nowhere in teh description to they even address OUTBOUND |
| 02:52.34 | darkdrgn2k | wait why am i beeting a dead horse..... |
| 02:52.45 | darkdrgn2k | only one person who can answer this confusion, ill call them monday! |
| 02:53.09 | mchou | darkdrgn2k: yeah, lemme know what you find out |
| 02:53.10 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: Go for it.. then come back and tell us all the great news |
| 02:53.27 | mchou | mchou: cause I'm totally confused now |
| 02:53.29 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: im sure you will be eagrly awaitng that |
| 02:53.40 | darkdrgn2k | mchou: specialy since your talking to yourself :-P |
| 02:53.55 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: I already use flowroute, and your call is purely academic to me |
| 02:54.41 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: i was being sarcastic :-P but if you say the vpri is inboudn AND outbound... who am i to argue.. |
| 02:55.20 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: You've already answered "who am i to argue" |
| 02:55.25 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: to date you have never given me incorrect information unless disclaimering it MAY not be accurate :-P |
| 02:55.26 | mchou | drmessano: you have VPRI with flowroute? |
| 02:55.59 | mchou | drmessano: or do you have the $7 plan with them? |
| 02:56.02 | drmessano | mchou: No, but I am well aware of the offerings |
| 02:56.15 | drmessano | mchou: and of the use of the term "VPRI" |
| 02:56.28 | drmessano | mchou: This isn't rocket science |
| 02:56.50 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: so it is safe to say that the text on their website in acurate |
| 02:56.59 | mchou | drmessano: all I'm saying is flowroute's description is unclear |
| 02:57.02 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: or rather incomplete |
| 02:57.04 | drmessano | mchou: Suppose I purchase one of these single channel INBOUND VPRIs for $18 a month and 5 DIDs.. what the fuck do I even have here? |
| 02:57.21 | drmessano | Lets talk common sense, |
| 02:57.30 | darkdrgn2k | 5 phone numbers aliased on one channel LOL |
| 02:57.40 | drmessano | Im spending $23 a month for 5 DIDs on one channel |
| 02:57.41 | mchou | bingo :) |
| 02:57.46 | drmessano | How fucking useless is that |
| 02:58.07 | drmessano | How about 3 DIDs on one channel? |
| 02:58.26 | drmessano | Since I can get 3 DIDs with a channel each for $21, im still 2 channels in the hole |
| 02:58.28 | drmessano | Now what? |
| 02:58.28 | mchou | no, let's just consider 1 DID |
| 02:58.34 | mchou | no call waiting :) |
| 02:58.42 | mchou | lol |
| 02:58.46 | darkdrgn2k | lol |
| 02:59.13 | drmessano | You can argue verbage all you want, but this is terminology 101, and the pricing is obvious |
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| 02:59.38 | darkdrgn2k | mchou: so what is drmessano insinuating you get? |
| 02:59.50 | mchou | darkdrgn2k: nothing |
| 03:00.01 | drmessano | Exactly.. |
| 03:00.07 | mchou | darkdrgn2k: he gets his ITSP recs from me :) |
| 03:00.20 | drmessano | Uh yeah right |
| 03:00.33 | darkdrgn2k | LOL |
| 03:00.43 | mchou | drmessano: come on man, just jivin ya |
| 03:01.03 | drmessano | I get that warm fuzzy feeling of being a first year kindergarten teacher from you |
| 03:01.38 | drmessano | Chronic headaches, bitchiness, feelings of hurting myself or others, random puke on my shirt |
| 03:01.42 | drmessano | All the above |
| 03:02.30 | mchou | darkdrgn2k: who would you say is bitchy today? |
| 03:02.45 | drmessano | I was referring to ME, mchou |
| 03:02.51 | drmessano | Dense a little? |
| 03:03.00 | cosmicwombat | If you want to talk semantics, a trunk isn't just a trunk.... |
| 03:03.08 | darkdrgn2k | mchou: i think he answered that one for you :-P |
| 03:03.24 | mchou | drmessano: dude, what's with you today? |
| 03:03.40 | drmessano | mchou: What do you mean? its a day that ends in Y.. |
| 03:03.44 | mchou | drmessano: you cant take a bit of jiving? |
| 03:03.58 | cosmicwombat | I thight he did and gave it back... |
| 03:04.04 | cosmicwombat | *thought |
| 03:04.19 | cosmicwombat | Can't you ? |
| 03:04.36 | mchou | cosmicwombat: [20:02:45] <drmessano> I was referring to ME, mchou |
| 03:04.50 | mchou | cosmicwombat: that's what I was referring to |
| 03:04.56 | cosmicwombat | mchou: yes I know |
| 03:04.59 | drmessano | mchou: Your lack of a sense of humor is of concern to me |
| 03:05.20 | drmessano | mchou: Its chronic, and sadly, untreatable |
| 03:05.37 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: its all the time you spend on irc.. |
| 03:05.37 | drmessano | mchou: I recommend middle management for you |
| 03:06.04 | mchou | drmessano: I'm the organizational clown |
| 03:06.23 | mchou | drmessano: and don't you forget it |
| 03:06.33 | cosmicwombat | Here is what we do.... start a google wave and insert a yes | no | maybe widget so we can all decide what is funny and then post only pre approved "funny business" |
| 03:06.52 | drmessano | cosmicwombat: YESH! I approve that idea |
| 03:07.08 | mchou | it's no fun if it's preapproved |
| 03:07.09 | joat | just what #asterisk needs: karma (bleh!) |
| 03:07.20 | PMantis | LOL |
| 03:07.39 | drmessano | I think we just need to buy mchou a cheap hooker to loosen him up |
| 03:07.50 | drmessano | Sorry, *toothless |
| 03:08.00 | cosmicwombat | drmessano: yes, well... I am not actually saying wave is useful... |
| 03:08.08 | drmessano | ha |
| 03:08.27 | darkdrgn2k | hey stupid question, do VOIUP numbers get listed in the local phone books? |
| 03:08.38 | drmessano | cosmicwombat: If its like any other google product, its "mostly cool" but highly disconnected from every other google offering |
| 03:08.49 | mchou | darkdrgn2k: doubtful |
| 03:09.05 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: You mean, the ones put out by the local telcos of THEIR numbers? yes, stupid |
| 03:09.25 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: Stop hanging around with mchou, he will bring you down |
| 03:09.26 | cosmicwombat | drmessano: exactly, what I'd love to see is widgets for my GV, GMail, etc to put in wave.... |
| 03:09.49 | drmessano | cosmicwombat: Wait about 2 years and they'll add it as a "labs" feature |
| 03:10.01 | cosmicwombat | And then the mother of all live "filters" to tame the flood |
| 03:10.32 | cosmicwombat | drmessano: gtg transformers2 be on.... |
| 03:10.41 | drmessano | cosmicwombat: Enjoy! |
| 03:10.44 | darkdrgn2k | drmessano: soryr i dont know how voip affects local telcos..... figured i'd ask |
| 03:11.08 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: VoIP negatively affects local telcos, which is why we love it |
| 03:11.21 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: Down with AT&T |
| 03:11.24 | drmessano | darkdrgn2k: Down with Apple |
| 03:11.30 | drmessano | burns an iPhone |
| 03:11.40 | mchou | Apple is right around the block from me |
| 03:11.56 | drmessano | at 1 infitely douchable loop ? |
| 03:12.01 | drmessano | infinitely |
| 03:12.03 | mchou | One ifiniet loop |
| 03:12.17 | drmessano | Yes, I know.. it was a play on words |
| 03:12.33 | drmessano | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_play |
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| 03:14.13 | mchou | drmessano: if both sip endpoints are behind nat, what required to be able to have the media stream directly betw. endpoints? |
| 03:14.37 | mchou | (sip in general, not necessarily asterisk) |
| 03:15.17 | mchou | drmessano: I mean is that even possible? |
| 03:15.21 | drmessano | No ports open? |
| 03:15.24 | drmessano | ~vwtf |
| 03:15.25 | infobot | A Virtual WTF is a bidirectional argument of a single narrow topic that spans unlimited minutes |
| 03:16.05 | drmessano | I need to expand on that |
| 03:17.16 | mchou | drmessano: let's assume rtp pot range open on one side for now.... |
| 03:17.39 | mchou | drmessano: but none on the other side |
| 03:19.50 | drmessano | RTP? |
| 03:19.58 | drmessano | Arent we missing a piece here? |
| 03:20.05 | mchou | hmm?? |
| 03:20.31 | drmessano | Should SIP involve some sort of signalling? |
| 03:20.44 | drmessano | Just going out in left field here |
| 03:21.46 | voipmonk | wow a virtual wtf |
| 03:21.53 | voipmonk | goes back under his rock |
| 03:21.57 | mchou | well, 5060 is open |
| 03:22.21 | mchou | but I'm much more concerned how rtp is connected for now |
| 03:23.37 | drmessano | One side needs ports open if both endpoints are NAT'ed |
| 03:23.41 | mchou | cause that seems to be a much more difficult issue to solve |
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| 03:25.42 | mchou | so lets say 5060, 10000-2000 open for RTP on one side |
| 03:25.50 | mchou | 20000* |
| 03:27.10 | drmessano | ok |
| 03:27.19 | mchou | you're saying rtp nat traversal can be relatively easily accomplished? |
| 03:28.27 | drmessano | Without question.. thats how a lot of installs are set up |
| 03:29.19 | drmessano | ~sipnat |
| 03:29.20 | infobot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 03:29.56 | drmessano | Gotta run for a bit.. Grocery shopping! |
| 03:38.28 | jblack | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:24.30 | Katty | stretches |
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| 04:30.07 | Katty | fascinating... |
| 04:30.11 | Katty | riddick likes sugar snap peas. |
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| 05:16.08 | jblack | Katty: Really? |
| 05:16.34 | jblack | That's the first time I can think of hearing of a canine liking veggies. |
| 05:17.01 | ppc | I tried to give my dog last night a tomato just licked it then looked away |
| 05:24.42 | jblack | thanks to the wonders of the internet, I can watch someone play oregon trail. Live. So can you. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ExtraLives-Marathons |
| 05:25.22 | ChannelZ | My dog used to love carrots |
| 05:26.13 | ChannelZ | jblack: You Have Died of Dysentery |
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| 05:39.30 | drmessano | jblack: I once watched a video of a half eaten ham sandwich on youtube for 45 mins |
| 05:39.38 | drmessano | I cant explain it.. it was just captivating |
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| 05:45.58 | jblack | I should ustream a video of my screen doing irc. |
| 05:49.46 | jblack | He's close to dying now. |
| 05:55.49 | drmessano | heh |
| 05:55.53 | drmessano | dyptheria? |
| 05:56.22 | drmessano | diphtheria, thank you wikipedia |
| 06:14.22 | ChannelZ | real men die of dysentery |
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| 06:29.11 | mahiti-irc | hi fellas |
| 06:29.28 | mahiti-irc | can anyone tell me how to diagnose a DTMF issue in asterisk? |
| 06:30.35 | ppc | mahiti-irc: still no luck eh? |
| 06:30.38 | jblack | turn on rfc2833 across the board and call it a night. |
| 06:30.47 | mahiti-irc | ppc, ya man |
| 06:31.06 | mahiti-irc | the installation ddoes not even respond |
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| 06:31.33 | ppc | so someone calls in and dtmf doesn't work? |
| 06:31.38 | mahiti-irc | jblack, its on rfc2833 |
| 06:32.10 | mahiti-irc | i meant the installation guy does not even respond |
| 06:32.17 | mahiti-irc | ya |
| 06:33.52 | mahiti-irc | so anyone here knows the trick? |
| 06:35.12 | ppc | mahiti-irc: have you tried anything to fix it? |
| 06:35.14 | mahiti-irc | i tried googling but nothing helped |
| 06:36.23 | gilevy | exit |
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| 06:37.01 | mahiti-irc | ppc, ya i tried changing the dtmfmodes and even dlynes suggested to put relaxdrmf=yes in zapata.conf |
| 06:37.10 | mahiti-irc | but nothing works out |
| 06:37.29 | ppc | mahiti-irc: is voice mail setup? |
| 06:37.51 | mahiti-irc | i dont think so |
| 06:37.54 | mahiti-irc | no |
| 06:38.59 | ppc | mahiti-irc: well I have no idea how to fix the problem you are having but i'll try to help you if you want |
| 06:39.38 | mahiti-irc | ppc, ya sure thanks |
| 06:39.52 | ppc | mahiti-irc: what version of everything are you running |
| 06:40.45 | mahiti-irc | ppc, just a sec |
| 06:41.37 | mahiti-irc | Asterisk 1.4.21 and TE122 Pri card |
| 06:41.56 | mahiti-irc | runs a centos 5.3 box |
| 06:42.45 | mahiti-irc | also Zaptel Version: 1.4.12.1 |
| 06:42.59 | mahiti-irc | ppc, need anything else |
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| 07:12.44 | grharry | Hi, I wonder if the voice prompts are written in some place ( text files ), in order to translate them and create new lang packs ??? |
| 07:18.51 | jblack | This guy needs to get some sleep...http://www.ustream.tv/channel/BradmanTV-Live |
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| 07:23.37 | trumee | guys, i have issues with secure call between spa3102s connected to asterisk |
| 07:23.53 | trumee | does anybody has experience on voice encryption on asterisk? |
| 07:24.13 | ChannelZ | grharry: all the sound files are in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds - a certain amount of things can be configured in say.conf |
| 07:24.51 | trumee | i have mini-certs installed on the spa3102. The codec is set to g729 on both the caller and the reciever spa3102. |
| 07:25.21 | trumee | when a call is made spa3102 shows the call as secured, however the receiver still has the call unsecured |
| 07:25.49 | trumee | do i need to build the srtp branch of asterisk for the spa3102s to talk securely? |
| 07:26.02 | ChannelZ | huh! Media Player 12 in Windows 7 seems to be able to play h264 AVIs on it's own |
| 07:28.40 | drmessano | trumee, considering that SRTP isn't available in a release yet, I would say YES |
| 07:29.26 | trumee | drmessano, so spa3102s do not talk to each other directly, but asterisk acts as a middle man here? |
| 07:29.44 | drmessano | Are you redirecting the media stream? |
| 07:29.58 | drmessano | They do what you tell them to do |
| 07:30.15 | trumee | drmessano, i have g729 on both ends, i was hoping asterisk doesnt need to do any alteration |
| 07:30.30 | drmessano | Are you redirecting the media stream? |
| 07:30.30 | trumee | what do you mean redirecting the media stream? |
| 07:30.34 | drmessano | ..... |
| 07:31.00 | drmessano | If they're not talking directly, then you have a problem there at the very least |
| 07:31.00 | trumee | is it some sort of setting in the extension? |
| 07:31.28 | trumee | the spa3102 are sitting behind firewalls and connect to an asterisk server |
| 07:31.47 | drmessano | "To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kinda scary. I've wondered where this started, and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus and a clown killed my dad." |
| 07:31.52 | drmessano | ha |
| 07:31.59 | drmessano | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+media+path |
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| 07:33.22 | trumee | so i need to set canreinvite = yes ? |
| 07:34.29 | drmessano | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+sip+canreinvite |
| 07:34.39 | drmessano | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+sip+directrtpsetup |
| 07:35.14 | drmessano | Read all of that and stop looking for "setthisoption=yes".. There's more to it |
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| 07:40.40 | mahiti-irc | i got it guys my dtmf was not working due to overlapdial=yes in zapata.conf |
| 07:41.08 | mahiti-irc | it was set to overlapdial=incoming as said in a bug post |
| 07:41.22 | mahiti-irc | thanks its working now |
| 07:42.56 | trumee | drmessano, canreinvite=yes did not help |
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| 07:43.09 | trumee | drmessano, so there is something else to it. |
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| 08:18.48 | TJNII | I really wish I had realized just how simple the ISA bus is 10 years ago..... |
| 08:18.51 | TJNII | sighs |
| 08:18.55 | TJNII | I was born too late. |
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| 08:56.06 | ppc | yo |
| 08:59.59 | ChannelZ | oy |
| 09:01.39 | mchou | trumee: how did you nake out? |
| 09:01.43 | mchou | make* |
| 09:02.01 | trumee | mchou:didnt work out |
| 09:02.04 | mchou | trumee: you get direct rtp to work? |
| 09:02.25 | mchou | trumee: you also set directrtp=yes? |
| 09:02.25 | trumee | mchou:canreinvite=yes did not work |
| 09:02.32 | mchou | umm |
| 09:02.36 | trumee | mchou:no i didnot do that |
| 09:02.41 | mchou | directrtpsetup=yes |
| 09:02.49 | mchou | trumee: man |
| 09:03.10 | mchou | trumee: drmessano led you nose to it |
| 09:03.12 | trumee | mchou:so i need both these settings? The spa3102s are behind routers. would it work? |
| 09:03.19 | mchou | no |
| 09:03.42 | mchou | I have now idea what your setup is like |
| 09:03.58 | mchou | there is no way I can tell you whether that would work |
| 09:04.21 | trumee | i have one spa3102 and asterisk behind a router and another spa3102 behind a router in another part of the world |
| 09:04.41 | mchou | trumee: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+sip+directrtpsetup |
| 09:04.50 | mchou | READ that AGAIN |
| 09:04.59 | trumee | yup, i read that. |
| 09:05.15 | mchou | many times until you UNDEZRSTAND every frigging aspect |
| 09:05.18 | trumee | it seems to suggest that the spa3102s cannot be behind routers |
| 09:05.22 | mchou | UNDERSTAND* |
| 09:05.29 | mchou | fuck |
| 09:05.38 | trumee | "But if that's taken care of, or you have a far-end NAT traversal solution in place to go with it, then you can do media release on Asterisk" |
| 09:05.50 | mchou | how did you get to that conclusion |
| 09:06.09 | trumee | this is the bit makes me feel that sipuras cane be behind routers |
| 09:06.29 | mchou | dude. stop guessing |
| 09:06.39 | trumee | ok, i shut up then. |
| 09:06.57 | trumee | you are saying it is going to work ok |
| 09:07.04 | mchou | oh lord |
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| 09:07.19 | mchou | trumee: free you mind |
| 09:07.23 | mchou | your* |
| 09:07.35 | trumee | ok, freed |
| 09:07.38 | mchou | dont be so fucking goal oriented |
| 09:08.11 | mchou | you must achieve enlightenment first |
| 09:08.41 | trumee | dude, cut the crap. |
| 09:09.18 | mchou | trumee: what might be some exaples of tech that can achieve "a far-end NAT traversal" solution? |
| 09:09.25 | mchou | examples* |
| 09:09.38 | mchou | trumee: cut the crap?? |
| 09:09.38 | trumee | no idea :) |
| 09:09.53 | mchou | so where is the understanding? |
| 09:10.11 | trumee | "a far-end NAT traversal" |
| 09:11.17 | mchou | trumee: what are you, a parrot? |
| 09:11.27 | trumee | on the remote spa3102, i have stun defined, so it shows the public ip address. |
| 09:11.39 | mchou | trumee: a turing machine? |
| 09:14.03 | trumee | ? |
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| 09:14.32 | trumee | mchou, so what does far-end NAT traversal mean? |
| 09:14.39 | yang | I am wondering what is the default password to enter SETUP mode on Polycom phones ? |
| 09:14.54 | mchou | yang: 456 |
| 09:15.07 | yang | mchou: thank you ! |
| 09:15.41 | mchou | trumee: that's for you to figure out |
| 09:24.03 | trumee | how can i check whether the devices are talking directly, with * in between? |
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| 09:27.08 | trumee | what should i check in sip debug for that? |
| 09:28.16 | mchou | rtp debug |
| 09:28.33 | mchou | if nothing shows up then it's direct |
| 09:31.12 | yang | mchou: may I ask what is the combination for WEB login for Polycoms (they don't ship any manuals) |
| 09:31.14 | trumee | thanks |
| 09:31.39 | mchou | yang: I have no idea |
| 09:31.57 | yang | i tried admin/456 its not working |
| 09:32.00 | yang | SPIP login |
| 09:32.03 | mchou | yang: I thought all they manuals are avail to anyone on the web |
| 09:32.21 | mchou | their* |
| 09:32.42 | mchou | yang: go download the manual |
| 09:32.57 | mchou | it's all described there |
| 09:33.31 | mchou | hell man |
| 09:33.42 | mchou | even google provides it |
| 09:34.11 | mchou | wonders what the hell is wrong with people these days |
| 09:38.27 | trumee | ok i am getting native bridging (seen through rtp debug). However, there is no audio |
| 09:56.54 | TSM2 | yang: everything is on their site under support->voice, even software updates |
| 09:57.09 | yang | yes, I found it |
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| 10:28.52 | Polysics | hi all |
| 10:29.14 | Polysics | i need to display the status of my operators on a web page |
| 10:29.21 | Polysics | how do i go about doing that? |
| 10:29.31 | Polysics | some flavor of AMI? |
| 10:29.44 | Polysics | i am basically "asking" * for operator's status |
| 10:30.12 | ppc | of your operators? |
| 10:33.53 | Polysics | i have the SIP peers divided in "callers" and "receivers" |
| 10:34.44 | Polysics | i and need to display the status of the "receivers" |
| 10:34.52 | Polysics | which are only normal SIP peers |
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| 10:38.17 | Polysics | another related thing is how to configure a queue so it gives a message if all operators are busy |
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| 10:59.42 | |stefan| | hey peeps. i still haven't figured this shit out. my inoming calls are denied (probably by my server) because of "SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized" and i don't know what's causing it. haven't changed any conf stuff. but logs have begun to report that "very" and "yes" are unsupported options for "insecure". any hints ? |
| 11:03.30 | ppc | |stefan|: just incoming? |
| 11:06.37 | |stefan| | ye |
| 11:06.41 | |stefan| | i just found the solution |
| 11:06.48 | ppc | what was it |
| 11:06.49 | |stefan| | it was depending on the insecure=very option |
| 11:07.01 | |stefan| | i have to change ot to insecure=invite,port |
| 11:07.10 | |stefan| | due to some changes in 1.6 |
| 11:08.05 | |stefan| | gotta hate the debug though. didn't say where it was or why it was unauthorized |
| 11:08.27 | ppc | so how did you figure it out? |
| 11:09.02 | |stefan| | after a gazillion of google searches i finally found someone with the same problem |
| 11:10.03 | |stefan| | is there any online documentation or something on how to get sqlite to work again with 1.6 btw ? |
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| 11:26.56 | trumee | i have a spa3012 and asterisk server sitting behind a router. Should i forward the rtp ports from the router to the asterisk server or the spa3102? |
| 11:27.30 | trumee | i want direct media path for my spa3102 on the internet so that remote spa3102 cant natively bridge to it. |
| 11:28.56 | TSM2 | if they are both on the same lan, then nothing needs to be done as the spa will speak to the * server fine |
| 11:29.06 | mchou | all sipura ATAs are pretty smart sip UAs |
| 11:29.12 | trumee | But what about a remote SPA3102. I want to have direct media path between tthe two SPA3102 so that i can get a secure call |
| 11:29.42 | TSM2 | reinvite you mean |
| 11:29.45 | trumee | yes |
| 11:30.15 | trumee | i have reinvite=yes set. but i dont get any audio, i suspect there is port forward problem |
| 11:30.30 | TSM2 | are you using srtp? |
| 11:30.48 | trumee | the srtp keys are setup on the two spa3102s |
| 11:31.30 | TSM2 | i dont know anything about srtp with asterisk |
| 11:32.12 | trumee | i dont have srtp setup inside asterisk. my asterisk is the regular asterisk. i only have srtp on the end points. |
| 11:32.23 | TSM2 | i know |
| 11:33.06 | trumee | on a side note, should i register my spa3102 to the local ip address of the * or to the dyndns address of the *. |
| 11:33.17 | TSM2 | its prolly a nat issue, try forwarding some RTP ports to the SPA, limit the SPA RTP ports to the range you chose |
| 11:34.46 | ppc | did day light time savings happen already? |
| 11:34.53 | trumee | if i change the rtp ports in SPA, do i need to change anytning in the * configuration? |
| 11:35.58 | TSM2 | as you have reinvite on then i dont think so, but ultimatly im not sure |
| 11:38.44 | trumee | TSM2, you are a star. limiting ports and forwarding to spa seems to work. i am indeed getting some audio now. |
| 11:43.55 | TSM2 | you can open the * RTP range to allow the whole range and then just limit it on the router, ie 20000-25000 for *, 20000-21000 -> * on router 21000-21100 for SPA on router, etc. mabey there is an easier way, not sure |
| 11:44.12 | TSM2 | i thought that NAT should have handled this for you |
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| 11:54.36 | jhesketh | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.39 | jhesketh | I'm trying to register an account as a trunk through asterisk-gui and it says it is registered even when I know it's not as it says it is registered even when I put in a fake password |
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| 11:56.03 | TSM2 | jhesketh: https://www.mynetfone.com.au/media/support/downloads/asterisk/Asterisk_endpoint_setup.pdf |
| 11:56.43 | trumee | TSM2, i opened 10000-20000 to *, and 26384-26482 for SPA. i dont know what is the default set in * files. |
| 11:58.39 | TSM2 | dont know either, does not matter as long as asterisk knows what it says onthe router |
| 11:58.52 | TSM2 | or its within the range of whats on the router |
| 12:05.22 | jhesketh | TSM2: Is there an easy way to check if it authenticated correctly from within the asterisk CLI? |
| 12:05.40 | ppc | asterisk -r -vvvvv |
| 12:05.42 | ppc | ? |
| 12:06.50 | jhesketh | ppc: that gets me to the CLI, but is there a command to see registered trunks (I'm new to asterisk) |
| 12:07.04 | ppc | so am I |
| 12:07.07 | ppc | but I think there is |
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| 12:11.58 | ppc | sla show trunks maybe? |
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| 12:18.35 | jhesketh | ppc: sip show registry does what I was after. Thanks :) |
| 12:18.52 | jhesketh | now I'm getting a No compatible codecs error |
| 12:19.23 | jhesketh | I have set the codecs to what the Asterisk documentation for my provider says (thanks TSM2) and I have the libmpeg4ip-0 installed... am I missing something? |
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| 12:36.16 | jhesketh | ah, I had my disallow above my allow... woops! |
| 12:41.08 | Pan3D | lol |
| 12:41.37 | Pan3D | somebody left the lab door open |
| 12:43.20 | mchou | hey anyone here ever use YATE? |
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| 13:29.51 | AlmightyOatmeal | is it normal for asterisk to keep re-registering with my sip provider? |
| 13:30.01 | dvrvm | hello, is there a document somewhere on config changes i have to make from 1.4.x to 1.6.x? |
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| 13:32.10 | Gugge | AlmightyOatmeal, it should reregister whenever the register times out |
| 13:32.59 | AlmightyOatmeal | Gugge: well i'm getting a lot of Really destroying SIP dialog Method: REGISTER |
| 13:33.21 | AlmightyOatmeal | of course i cut out the string for my sip provider |
| 13:33.40 | AlmightyOatmeal | just wondering if thats normal.. the system appears to operate normally |
| 13:34.40 | kaldemar | dvrvm: UPGRADE*.txt in the source package |
| 13:41.24 | AlmightyOatmeal | is that destroying sip dialog message something i should be concerned about? core set debug 10 floods me with messages like that from all devices... ex: http://pastebin.ca/1650432 |
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| 13:43.11 | TSM2 | if you are going to that level of debug i would say its not a prob |
| 13:43.25 | TSM2 | not sure though |
| 13:44.34 | mchou | it's really too bad nat traversal is such a bitch |
| 13:44.38 | AlmightyOatmeal | my main concern is the constant need to re-register with my sip proviider |
| 13:44.41 | trumee | TSM2, although i am getting native bridging between the two SPAs. I still am not getting the secure connection. |
| 13:45.00 | trumee | does anybody here has setup secure connection on SPA3102 |
| 13:46.30 | trumee | i used gen_mc from the following link to generate the certificates (http://www.megajournal.ru/journal/users_data/11049/msg_files/24120/gen-mc.c-v0.98.tar.gz.mp3) |
| 13:49.03 | mchou | trumee: what's the fixation with secure calls? You an al qaeda operative? |
| 13:49.22 | TSM2 | vpn would be easier prob |
| 13:49.25 | trumee | mchou:ha ha! |
| 13:50.22 | coppice | people are fools is they don't take call security seriously. so many people are sending sensitive info by DTMF these days |
| 13:50.49 | trumee | coppice:cheers |
| 13:51.09 | dvrvm | kaldemar: thx, reading through it |
| 13:51.53 | TSM2 | coppice: this is true, with wireshark making it so easy to extract audio from SIP, its silly that * has not taken SRTP live quicker |
| 13:52.14 | trumee | TSM2, is vpn possible? |
| 13:52.39 | trumee | i saw freeswitch supports SRTP, something not in * |
| 13:52.59 | mchou | coppice: chances are the people you're sending sensitive DTMF info don't happen to be the banks or credit card companies |
| 13:53.06 | TSM2 | just make a tunnel between the two endpoints, then consider the SPA at the remote end as if its on th eLAN |
| 13:53.21 | trumee | i am waiting for freepbx support for freeswitch before i change over. Also, i have bought g729 licenses for *, dont know whether they would work for freeswitch |
| 13:53.57 | mchou | coppice: when's the last time you called a financial istitution that had a SRTP setuf and didnt go thru PSTN (read NSA)? |
| 13:54.09 | mchou | setup* |
| 13:54.15 | trumee | TSM2, isnt QOS an issue there. afaik srtp is ok with voip traffic |
| 13:54.45 | TSM2 | trumee: you are going over WAN, there is a QOS issue there anyway |
| 13:55.30 | coppice | mchou: if, say, a vonage user calls their bank, what happens? |
| 13:55.37 | trumee | TSM2, i have tomato router at the far end, maybe i can setup for vpn access. There is no computer at the far end, only a router and a SPA |
| 13:56.01 | mchou | coppice: it stops off to PSTN where NSA can listen anyways |
| 13:56.07 | mchou | steps* |
| 13:57.41 | mchou | coppice: whether other people "wiresharking on the net" can decode that info isn't exactly all that relevant |
| 13:58.04 | coppice | NSA snooping isn't particularly an issue for most people. crooks snooping en mass from compromised boxes in a VoIP path is. if someone taps a phone line they might be lucky to pick up the odd password. if they compromise a box in an IP path there might be a rich harvest. |
| 13:58.54 | mchou | coppice: right, which is why crooks are moke likely to traget vonnage servers |
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| 13:59.17 | mchou | coppice: just like that dude who got busted targeting CC processing centers |
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| 13:59.32 | mchou | crooks are interested in wholesale compromise |
| 14:00.08 | mchou | if they are doing it on the retail level they are screwing up royally |
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| 14:02.55 | ppc | mchou: you could make the argument if you go retail and go small you could easily go undetected also |
| 14:03.26 | mchou | ppc: no, you're even more likely to get caught on the retail level |
| 14:03.42 | ppc | How so? |
| 14:04.04 | mchou | cause there is way more exposure every time you try something |
| 14:04.09 | ppc | Sure it would be easy to figure out it was XYZ gas station they all used their cards |
| 14:04.23 | ppc | but it would be easier to pull off the job as far as whodunit |
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| 14:11.09 | mchou | TSM2: rtp is a disaster when comes to firewall traversal. That's why srtp never really took off. |
| 14:12.09 | mchou | It's hard enough getting two random sip ua's to talk in the clear to each other |
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| 14:12.40 | TSM2 | mchou: i have no issues, my firewalls have full VoIP support |
| 14:12.48 | mchou | and when you indlude apps like voicemail, transfer, etc, all bets are off |
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| 14:12.54 | dvrvm | i really don't get it: what is it with that ael and ael v2? i used switch($CALLERID(num)) in extensions.conf and now suddenly it doesn't seem to work |
| 14:13.09 | dvrvm | on 1.4 -> 1.6 upgrade |
| 14:13.12 | mchou | TSM: yeah, but grandma's firewall doesnt :) |
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| 14:13.41 | Pan3D | help, I've been packet captured and I can't get up |
| 14:13.54 | mchou | Pan3D: indeed :) |
| 14:14.15 | mchou | get the clapper! :) |
| 14:15.03 | Pan3D | ahahah |
| 14:17.16 | mchou | thank god there's tivo now where we can all be oblivious to such commercials :) |
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| 14:30.49 | simcop2387 | is it possible for anyway to check and see if i've got my iax2 port forwarded properly, all my setting say it should be but the other guy (i don't have access to his server) isn't connecting to me and i'm wondering if maybe i've messed something up over here |
| 14:31.17 | simcop2387 | mine is able to register with his, but its not happening the other way around |
| 14:32.17 | kaldemar | for example with netcat in UDP mode |
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| 14:34.49 | simcop2387 | kaldemar: what should i send to see if the connection happens? |
| 14:37.25 | simcop2387 | nevermind, nc -u host port < /dev/urandom; did the trick |
| 14:37.33 | simcop2387 | thanks its a bit early today for me to think |
| 14:41.41 | mchou | TSM2: so which firewalls do you use? They have SBC? |
| 14:42.18 | mchou | TSM2: or you use some sip proxy? |
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| 15:01.41 | kaldemar | simcop2387: shut your asterisk down, then put one netcat to listen on the port in UDP mode and another netcat to connect from outside your network. |
| 15:02.25 | simcop2387 | kaldemar: turned out to be a setup issue on his end :) |
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| 15:18.14 | bbt | what could be the cause of stutter on calls? if i use the c47ip or x-lite and call either of my trunk's voicemail service, i get incoming stutter |
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| 15:33.28 | voipmonk | incoming stutter? |
| 15:33.47 | voipmonk | not like a stutter dial tone, right? |
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| 15:37.25 | bbt | the recorded message is slow and stuttering |
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| 15:38.53 | ppc | baijum: just recorded messages? |
| 15:41.36 | bbt | normal voice too |
| 15:46.17 | jblack | That could be anything. Not enough bandwidth, high drop rate. Not enough cpu etc etc |
| 15:46.27 | voipmonk | yep |
| 15:46.33 | voipmonk | reduce your torrent downloads :) |
| 15:47.46 | bbt | nothing going over the network but irc |
| 15:48.05 | bbt | cpu is old though |
| 15:49.25 | bbt | p3 600mhz |
| 15:53.26 | drmessano | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.38 | drmessano | Using some bootleg G729 with it? |
| 15:53.40 | jblack | Ok. Make sure you're not doing any transcoding. |
| 15:54.30 | bbt | default install |
| 15:54.34 | bbt | with updates |
| 15:54.44 | drmessano | Thats meaningless |
| 15:54.56 | drmessano | What CODECS are you using? |
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| 15:55.07 | bbt | alaw, ulaw |
| 15:55.22 | jblack | I bet the prompts are gsm |
| 15:55.51 | bbt | prompts? |
| 15:55.52 | drmessano | Which distro? |
| 15:56.02 | bbt | asterisknow on centos |
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| 15:56.13 | drmessano | How much ram? |
| 15:56.19 | bbt | 512 |
| 15:56.47 | drmessano | Which codec in X-Lite? |
| 15:56.47 | jblack | Your box is barely more powerful than my cell phone. |
| 15:56.59 | bbt | sorry 256 memory |
| 15:57.09 | mchou | lol |
| 15:57.11 | drmessano | Which codec in X-Lite? |
| 15:57.38 | mchou | does cent os even fit on 256M ram? |
| 15:57.39 | drmessano | Oh 256 |
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| 15:58.03 | jblack | my suggestion is to move everything, and I do mean everything, to gsm |
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| 15:58.14 | drmessano | bbt: Do you have a car, bbt? |
| 15:58.18 | mchou | 2.6 kernels are now memory hogs |
| 15:58.39 | mchou | even on 32-bit |
| 15:58.46 | jblack | I remember when 300kb kernels were the norm |
| 15:59.01 | bbt | how do i find the codec used in xlite? |
| 15:59.20 | drmessano | BBT: Drive around the neighborhood a few times the night before trash pickup day.. one of your neighbors is likely to be throwing away a machine 2x that speed |
| 15:59.48 | mchou | bbt: where you live? |
| 16:00.04 | bbt | near syd, au |
| 16:00.04 | mchou | bbt: pay me shipping and I send you 3x :) |
| 16:00.09 | jblack | I think his best bet is to move everything to gsm. |
| 16:00.15 | mchou | bbt: bah, too bad |
| 16:00.35 | drmessano | I think he simply has a horsepower issue |
| 16:00.40 | mchou | bbt: shipping to au would kill the deal |
| 16:00.47 | bbt | so is it definitely the pc specs thats causing it?! |
| 16:00.49 | drmessano | MySQL, Apache, etc |
| 16:01.19 | mchou | bbt: in the absence of evidence to the contrary, yes |
| 16:01.28 | drmessano | 256MB Ram is pushing it, and the processor isn't going to swap very fast |
| 16:01.43 | drmessano | So pick your flaw |
| 16:01.51 | mchou | bbt: move to 2.4 kernel and I'm almost certain the issue will go away |
| 16:02.17 | drmessano | heh |
| 16:02.32 | mchou | drmessano: I'm not joking |
| 16:02.46 | drmessano | If he's installed asterisknow, how easily do you think he can make all that happen? |
| 16:03.07 | drmessano | Obviously he's not of the skillset to install a base OS and build it up |
| 16:03.22 | bbt | kernel downgrade possible for centos 5.4 without breaking anything? |
| 16:03.26 | mchou | my 512M AMD 1800+ would hardly boot 2.6 |
| 16:03.48 | drmessano | Nope |
| 16:04.11 | drmessano | Maybe try an older trixbox, like 2.2.x |
| 16:04.20 | drmessano | It runs on Centos 4 |
| 16:04.28 | drmessano | But full of holes |
| 16:04.33 | bbt | bleh forget it |
| 16:04.36 | drmessano | I suggest putting it behind 4 or 5 routers |
| 16:04.48 | mchou | lol |
| 16:04.51 | drmessano | and wrapping it in a giant network condom |
| 16:05.08 | mchou | then he will have nat traversal issues :) |
| 16:05.20 | mchou | defeats the whole purpose |
| 16:05.45 | drmessano | mchou: Do I need to put "jk, lol" at the end of sentences meant to be humorous |
| 16:06.06 | drmessano | Literally, you take things too literally |
| 16:06.19 | mchou | seriously, take drmessano's advice. dumpster dive |
| 16:06.58 | bbt | would this be good for the job: Intel Atom 330 Dual Core CPU, 2GB DDR2 RAM |
| 16:07.06 | drmessano | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 16:07.12 | mchou | oh shit |
| 16:07.12 | drmessano | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH jk, lol |
| 16:07.37 | drmessano | Dual core ATOM is the funniest shit ever |
| 16:07.49 | bbt | im getting the impression i need a core i7 here heh |
| 16:07.54 | drmessano | That's like dropping a quad core 386 into something |
| 16:08.16 | mchou | bbt: sheevaolug!! |
| 16:08.24 | mchou | sheevaplug* |
| 16:08.25 | drmessano | bbt, no.. Come up with something reasonable.. 1GHZ, 512MB RAM or above |
| 16:08.48 | drmessano | Your answer to a 600MHZ machine is a fucking ATOM.. Lets be serious here |
| 16:09.15 | mchou | actually, my friend uses atom for asterisk |
| 16:09.15 | bbt | 1.6GHz processor? |
| 16:09.22 | mchou | it works for him |
| 16:09.29 | drmessano | We tell you your bicycle is too slow for the interstate, you offer up a moped.. No, try a CAR |
| 16:09.41 | mchou | it's doing double duty as print server too |
| 16:09.49 | drmessano | mchou: What part of "ASTERISKNOW" did you not understand? |
| 16:10.08 | ppc | bbt: what are you trying to do? |
| 16:10.12 | bbt | drmessano, settle down, your ego is showing |
| 16:10.15 | mchou | drmessano: yeah, but he doesnt have to use that |
| 16:10.36 | ppc | I used a 1.6Ghz atom w/ 1 gig of ram on a netbook to run xp and vmware w/ asterisk and it worked fine |
| 16:10.40 | drmessano | bbt: My ego always shows, and I will file your advice with the rest |
| 16:11.13 | mchou | bbt: google sheevaplug |
| 16:11.18 | bbt | ppc, pbx with minimum specs, or atleast low power consumption. drmessano appears to think a SUV would work better |
| 16:11.20 | drmessano | mchou: No, he doesnt even need to use Asterisk.. options are like that.. But in this case, he's obviously got a reason for using a GUI ISO |
| 16:11.31 | mchou | bbt: it's da bomb :) |
| 16:11.34 | drmessano | bbt: I clearly stated what I think is needed |
| 16:11.52 | drmessano | bbt: You threw out the i7 comment, not me.. and I corrected you |
| 16:11.58 | ppc | What's wrong with the atom, it's actually a good processor that's low power |
| 16:12.02 | ppc | I like it a lot |
| 16:12.02 | drmessano | [12:09] <drmessano> bbt, no.. Come up with something reasonable.. 1GHZ, 512MB RAM or above <-- Hardly an SUV |
| 16:12.23 | drmessano | Thats still a "throw away" and would be worlds faster |
| 16:12.45 | ppc | My next machine will probably be a dual core atom |
| 16:12.47 | mchou | I found P4's dumpster diving |
| 16:12.57 | ppc | mchou: not exactly low power though |
| 16:12.58 | drmessano | I throw away anything under 1.5GHZ |
| 16:13.09 | mchou | that said P$ suck mucho power |
| 16:13.16 | mchou | P4* |
| 16:13.22 | ppc | I actually replaced my P4 2.8ghz tower with a netbook |
| 16:13.31 | diatonic1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth |
| 16:13.41 | mchou | ppc: good decision |
| 16:14.05 | mchou | ppc: you using the broadcom minipci HD decoder? |
| 16:14.09 | ppc | no |
| 16:14.16 | mchou | ppc: you should |
| 16:14.24 | coppice | I replaced my dual P4 based xeon box with a space heater |
| 16:14.26 | ppc | mchou: I'm going to get another netbook |
| 16:14.29 | mchou | it's wonderful |
| 16:14.38 | ppc | whatever has the ion |
| 16:14.46 | mchou | ion sucks |
| 16:14.54 | ppc | ion is better than intel gmawhatever |
| 16:15.11 | mchou | gma+broadcom==wins |
| 16:15.15 | diatonic1 | I've got an HTPC on nVidia ion platform. It rocks. 1080p x264 at 10% cpu |
| 16:15.19 | mchou | ion==buggy |
| 16:15.43 | ppc | diatonic1: gangster |
| 16:16.15 | mchou | vdpau is teh suck |
| 16:16.28 | diatonic1 | vdpau is the bomb |
| 16:16.35 | drmessano | I've run XP Home on a 1.6GHZ ATOM with 512MB Ram, and its performace is about the same as a P4 1.6GHZ with the same amount of RAM |
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| 16:17.05 | mchou | vdpau is roach motel |
| 16:18.25 | drmessano | I don't buy that somehow a new 1.6GHZ ATOM is anything other than 2003 era processor performance with hyperextended battery life |
| 16:18.54 | mchou | ppc: the broadcom HD card can be had for $30 and would probably work in your current netbook |
| 16:18.57 | coppice | the atom is closer to the original pentium in design |
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| 16:19.20 | ppc | drmessano: I can tell you that I enjoy using my netbook more than I did my P4 |
| 16:19.54 | manxpower | there are netbooks with 21" screens? 8-| |
| 16:19.56 | mchou | ppc: it will be the best upgrade you ever made |
| 16:20.21 | mchou | manxpower: if you use an external screen, yes |
| 16:20.37 | ppc | I saw a netbook the other day with dual screens |
| 16:20.51 | ppc | mchou: don't you have to hack your machine to get it to work? |
| 16:20.52 | mchou | manxpower: it's not as ridiculous as you attempt to make it sound |
| 16:21.08 | manxpower | mchou: My issue with Netbooks is that my laptop is *already* not fast enough for what I do. |
| 16:21.16 | mchou | ppc: no hacking necessary. just a working minipci slot |
| 16:21.27 | ppc | i dont have a minipci slot |
| 16:21.41 | ppc | manxpower: what are you using your laptop for? |
| 16:21.42 | mchou | ppc: what model netbook you have? |
| 16:21.51 | ppc | acer aspire 8.9" |
| 16:21.51 | manxpower | I just wish BookPCs made a comeback. |
| 16:22.21 | coppice | BookPCs were mostly a disaster. too much heat in a small space |
| 16:22.25 | manxpower | ppc: I use my laptop for running about 3 virtual machines at the same time for development stuff |
| 16:22.42 | drmessano | I want a quad core 64-bit ATOM with a 15 inch display.. Then I will pretend it's not the same as my laptop with a T3400, just like when I make my wife wear a wig and pretend I just picked her up at a comic book convention |
| 16:22.47 | mchou | ppc: http://www.terracode.com/AcerAspireMod/AcerAspireMods_P1.html |
| 16:22.53 | manxpower | It wasn't too slow before I started doing that. 8-) |
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| 16:23.13 | ppc | manxpower: why are you using a laptop to do that? |
| 16:23.37 | manxpower | ppc: because I frequently travel between 2 locations and want to be able to work at both locations |
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| 16:24.08 | mchou | manxpower: you ever heard of ssh? |
| 16:24.14 | ppc | manxpower: sounds like it would make more sense to do that remotely |
| 16:24.34 | manxpower | mchou: you can use SSH for console access for installing test ISOs and accessing the BIOS? |
| 16:24.52 | mchou | manxpower: test ISO, sure |
| 16:24.58 | manxpower | mchou: I used SSH in the beginning. |
| 16:25.05 | ppc | mchou: i'm not giving up my wifi for graphics |
| 16:25.09 | ppc | or dicking around with it |
| 16:25.16 | mchou | accessing the BIOS, get a remote management card. end of story |
| 16:25.23 | ppc | my graphics are fine for now, i don't even care for hd yet |
| 16:25.23 | drmessano | HA |
| 16:25.47 | drmessano | Expose your remote management card to the outside |
| 16:26.03 | drmessano | No, get another PC, use that as a SSH tunnel to the management card on the other machine |
| 16:26.19 | ppc | i've never heard of that |
| 16:26.33 | manxpower | and yet I don't have to do any of that when I have everything on 1 machine. |
| 16:26.53 | mchou | yeah right |
| 16:26.54 | drmessano | Indeed |
| 16:27.11 | mchou | your battery life is how long?? 30 minutes? |
| 16:27.47 | manxpower | mchou: I seldom run on battery, when I do it lasts 2 - 3 hours. I have an extended battery |
| 16:27.59 | robl^laptop | ummm. why not just an IP KVM over a VPN ;-) |
| 16:28.25 | manxpower | The only thing I really screwed up in setting up this system is that I used whole disk encryption. I should have set aside an unencrypted partition for dev stuff. |
| 16:28.55 | mchou | manxpower: that's baloney. there's no way you battery lasts anywhere near 3 hrs |
| 16:28.57 | ppc | I don't even have my battery in my machine |
| 16:29.00 | drmessano | manxpower: If you had a netbook, you could easily go 8 hours in a remote session over a nice latent public internet connection |
| 16:29.09 | drmessano | manxpower: You know you want to |
| 16:29.23 | drmessano | mchou: My standard battery, running full bore on a T3400 goes 2 hours |
| 16:29.31 | ppc | I'm going to get the 9 cell battery, I heard you can do 6 hours mpeg2 playback w/ it |
| 16:29.33 | robl^laptop | mchou: my laptop battery lasts about 5.5 to 6 hours.. |
| 16:30.04 | mchou | robl^laptop: you didnt hear what manxpower was running on his machine |
| 16:30.27 | manxpower | My battery is Capacity: 10.8V x 6000 mAh Number of battery cells: 9 |
| 16:30.37 | mchou | hahah |
| 16:30.40 | manxpower | mchou: I don't do all that 24x7 |
| 16:30.49 | drmessano | mchou: You do understand that 20 virtual machines will only use resources when they're DOING STUFF, right? |
| 16:31.16 | mchou | manxpower: you have an apple flea too with a car battery? |
| 16:31.29 | drmessano | So applying any sort of metric to "3 virtual machines" is baseless |
| 16:31.35 | manxpower | I have my Linux Host OS, my work XP VM, the dev VM, and the ISO testing VM. |
| 16:32.08 | mchou | manxpower: I didnt say you were running that 24x7 |
| 16:32.21 | ppc | drmessano: well I'd tend to think if you are running 3 VM's that you are probably "doing stuff" and don't have them running because it's a fun thing to do |
| 16:32.23 | manxpower | mchou: all I know is that recently I forgot to plug the wall power in my laptop, did the stuff I do every work day, and the laptop ran out of juice after 2 - 3 hours. |
| 16:32.51 | manxpower | Granted, the VMs (except the work XP) are usually pretty idle. |
| 16:32.59 | ppc | manxpower: That's impressive for the best laptops when they aren't doing anything |
| 16:33.14 | mchou | manxpower: [09:31:16] <mchou> manxpower: you have an apple flea too with a car battery? |
| 16:33.24 | manxpower | ppc: I thought so. Any my laptop isn't all THAT fast. |
| 16:33.34 | manxpower | mchou: I don't understand a word of what you said. |
| 16:33.56 | drmessano | ppc: I guess I need to be more specific for little ears. The implication that running 3 VMs is somehow going to use some excessive amount of resources is foolish.. You're only going to consume 100% of your resources at any given time, and likely will be using MUCH less than that if you expect even function |
| 16:34.10 | mchou | manxpower: google "apple flea" |
| 16:34.26 | ppc | drmessano: I'm sorry I couldn't hear that could you make your text smaller please? |
| 16:34.27 | manxpower | ppc: 4GB ram (about 3.2GB usable for stupid reasons) T1350 @ 1.86GHz |
| 16:34.53 | drmessano | ppc: Im sure its small enough on a 10 inch netbook... |
| 16:35.00 | manxpower | drmessano: It never runs as fast as I'd like when I'm actually doing a bunch of stuff. |
| 16:35.03 | ppc | Well since I use a 19" lcd it's not a problem |
| 16:35.07 | mchou | drmessano: nobody said anything about excessive |
| 16:35.42 | ppc | genius quote of the day |
| 16:35.44 | ppc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.44 | ppc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.51 | mchou | even core2duo lapps only have published battery lifetime of 5 hrs |
| 16:35.52 | drmessano | mchou: Great, then explain: [12:30] <mchou> robl^laptop: you didnt hear what manxpower was running on his machine <---- |
| 16:35.55 | ppc | You mean, I can't use 150% of my resources in a day!?? |
| 16:36.00 | ppc | at a time that is |
| 16:36.01 | ppc | haha |
| 16:36.04 | mchou | laptops* |
| 16:36.08 | ppc | WARP SPEED SULU! |
| 16:36.13 | manxpower | However, it's very usable UNTIL I have large amounts of disk writes/reads (build an ISO = 700MB of data written. I assume that is mostly an issue with the disk encryption/decryption. |
| 16:36.50 | drmessano | ppc: It's sad I need to explain how 100% works. Really. |
| 16:36.54 | mchou | drmessano: the dude is running encrypted FS on TOP of 3 VMs |
| 16:37.00 | ppc | drmessano: It's sad that you tried to, really |
| 16:37.10 | ppc | drmessano: Do some people not use their machines to their full potential? |
| 16:37.14 | ppc | Or close to it? |
| 16:37.18 | ppc | is this a surprise to you? |
| 16:37.22 | manxpower | mchou: under the VMs, actually and yes I realized how stupid that was after it was too much hassle to undo that. |
| 16:37.55 | manxpower | My laptop is VERY tight on disk space (93GB) |
| 16:38.02 | drmessano | ppc: It's a surprise to me that you somehow think "enjoy" is a metric of performance, which is exactly your genius reply to a comment I made earlier. |
| 16:38.15 | robl^laptop | buries his nose back in an OpenOffice doc |
| 16:38.30 | ppc | I think it's far more logical to assume that if you are running 3 VM's that you probably use them |
| 16:38.34 | mchou | manxpower: when I said "on top" I mean in terms of power consumption, not sw stack sense |
| 16:38.41 | manxpower | mchou: Ah. |
| 16:39.02 | manxpower | drmessano: I sort of agree with that. If the system is too slow I'm not going to enjoy using it. |
| 16:39.19 | drmessano | ppc: Yes, logically speaking, I am sure each of those VM's are using 25% of the system resources, because that just makes sense |
| 16:39.29 | manxpower | I tried to find a balance of the maximum I can do with the hardware resources I have. |
| 16:40.57 | manxpower | Regardless of this discussion I do think that Netbooks are great for people that do basic stuff (web browsing, e-mail, music, IM, word processing, etc). |
| 16:41.00 | mchou | manxpower: the sad truth is I would even do what you're doing on my desktop. It's ridiculous |
| 16:41.09 | mchou | wouldnt* |
| 16:41.19 | manxpower | mchou: It works much better then I expected it to. |
| 16:42.14 | mchou | manxpower: that's great, but it's still ridiculous |
| 16:42.43 | mchou | 9 pack battery |
| 16:43.01 | mchou | just carry a car battery and get it over with |
| 16:43.05 | manxpower | mchou: Building/Installing test ISOs are what really slow my system -- fortunately that sort of thing isn't done every day. |
| 16:43.30 | manxpower | mchou: *shrug* I bought the extended battery for my laptop when the battery it came with held less than 30 mins of charge. |
| 16:44.30 | manxpower | These days my laptop travels between my apartment in Huntsville AL and my mountain cabin near Gadsden AL. |
| 16:44.55 | mchou | yes, that how I started this power consumption conversation |
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| 16:45.20 | mchou | manxpower: [09:27:11] <mchou> your battery life is how long?? 30 minutes? |
| 16:45.41 | manxpower | mchou: that was when my battery was 4 yrs old. It started out with 2 - 3 hrs of life. |
| 16:45.53 | manxpower | and this was all long before I did any VMs |
| 16:46.27 | ppc | manxpower: what part of AL is that in? |
| 16:46.29 | mchou | you laptop is 4 yrs old and you're complaining about speed??? |
| 16:46.46 | mchou | your* |
| 16:47.01 | manxpower | ppc: Huntsville (where both Digium and Adtran are HQ), AL, about 30 mins south of the AL TN border. |
| 16:47.04 | mchou | what is wrong with tis picture? |
| 16:47.09 | mchou | this* |
| 16:47.12 | ppc | manxpower: i didn't know that |
| 16:47.21 | ppc | manxpower: I live in MS |
| 16:47.38 | manxpower | Adtran HQ is Totally Awesome! |
| 16:48.18 | ppc | I'm all the way at the gulf though |
| 16:48.41 | manxpower | ppc: Before Katrina I lived in Waveland, MS |
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| 16:49.13 | manxpower | (about 30 mins east of Gulfport MS) |
| 16:49.23 | ppc | oh, I'm near biloxi |
| 16:49.47 | ppc | I just moved here from Iowa |
| 16:50.11 | manxpower | Waveland was almost totally destroyed (it's about 13 miles east of where the eye of the storm came ashore -- 32 ft storm surge |
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| 16:53.13 | lesouvage | . |
| 16:53.28 | manxpower | At least I had sense enough to evacuate. 8-) |
| 16:53.38 | coppice | the name Waveland seems to be an invitation for trouble |
| 16:56.03 | ppc | yeah all my family left |
| 16:56.18 | ppc | my aunt was lucky her house was safe, you can see the ocean from her front steps |
| 16:56.48 | manxpower | ppc: I was thinking of moving out of Waveland anyway. |
| 16:57.06 | coppice | I can see the sea front from my front door, but only by looking at a considerable downward angle |
| 16:57.27 | manxpower | I lived 2 miles from the water |
| 16:57.32 | ppc | manxpower: what kind of work do you do? |
| 16:57.49 | jblack | wow. The FDIC closed 9 banks yesterday. |
| 16:57.52 | manxpower | ppc: I used to do consulting for a New Orleans real estate company. Now I work for.... |
| 16:57.54 | manxpower | ~manxpowre |
| 16:57.58 | manxpower | ~manxpower |
| 16:57.59 | infobot | ManxPower has been using Asterisk in production since late 2001. Currently works at InterGlobe Communications, a CLEC based in NYC with service in NY, NJ, FL, and TX. http://www.nyigc.com |
| 16:58.32 | ppc | manxpower: cool |
| 16:58.45 | ppc | manxpower: Yeah i've been looking for tech jobs, everything seems to be in NO |
| 16:59.16 | manxpower | ppc: Mobile is not all that far from you |
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| 17:00.43 | ppc | manxpower: yeah I know, I saw some stuff there - I'm kinda stuck in this area for now |
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| 17:11.52 | ppc | manxpower: So you are an admin or something, you seem to do a lot of testing? |
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| 17:19.26 | bbt | guys, sorry to be a pest.. but i just put the hard drive from the old p3 into a athlon 4200+ x2 with 2gb ram and its still stuttering? |
| 17:21.21 | manxpower | ppc: I am forced to work with FreePBX. So I built an ISO to auto install/setup all the standard stuff for a new PBX install. |
| 17:22.02 | manxpower | ppc: I'm officially a "System Engineer" -- much of what I do is coordinate and configure everything that needs to be done to the PBX and hardware on the day of the install |
| 17:22.31 | manxpower | I hate FreePBX (and all GUIs, but expecially Asterisk GUIs) with a passion. |
| 17:23.59 | ChannelZ | It's good to be passionate about something |
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| 17:26.22 | manxpower | I'm against the Windows-ification of PBXs |
| 17:27.03 | manxpower | ppc: so far it's cut about an hour off the setup of a new PBX |
| 17:28.38 | bbt | manxpower, have you come across external voice with stutter? |
| 17:28.55 | bbt | im trying to fix my asterisk box |
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| 17:31.24 | jblack | bbt: how much cpu do you have |
| 17:31.44 | bbt | athlong 4200+ dual core |
| 17:31.50 | bbt | err minus the g |
| 17:32.12 | jblack | How about bandwidth. |
| 17:32.43 | bbt | ample bandwidth |
| 17:33.06 | jblack | What sort of latency are you seeing? |
| 17:33.33 | bbt | both trunks in sub 60ms |
| 17:33.47 | mchou | bbt: have you tried with DIFFERENT ITSPs? |
| 17:33.49 | jblack | This is getting hard. :) |
| 17:33.59 | jblack | Um, do you have the problem when you mute your mic? |
| 17:34.19 | mchou | bbt: the problem could be there (i.e. not your fault) |
| 17:34.25 | jblack | is starting to think bad echo cancellation |
| 17:35.01 | bbt | mchou, two |
| 17:35.04 | bbt | same result |
| 17:35.38 | jblack | presuming everything is as great as you're saying, and there's nothing hidden, I think the most likely thing is echo cancellation. |
| 17:36.00 | bbt | mic disabled, stutter still there, jblack |
| 17:36.20 | jblack | it could still be ec, just not there (that was the most likely place) |
| 17:36.21 | mchou | bbt: what kind of phones are you usine? |
| 17:36.27 | bbt | how do i disable echo cancellation? |
| 17:36.30 | mchou | using* |
| 17:36.36 | jblack | I would try flipping echo cancellation on/off in various spots. |
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| 17:36.56 | bbt | x-lite on this pc, and a gigaset c470 ip |
| 17:37.17 | jblack | You could also try adding Monitor() and mix them in stereo. That can usually give useful feedback |
| 17:37.20 | bbt | sorry, c47h |
| 17:37.46 | jblack | where one leg is the left stereo channel, and te other leg is the right. |
| 17:38.27 | jblack | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Monitor+stereo-example |
| 17:39.04 | mchou | bbt: what happens when you do echo test betw. phone and asterisk? |
| 17:39.20 | mchou | bbt: is it choopy? |
| 17:39.26 | mchou | choppy* |
| 17:39.47 | mchou | bbt: i.e. never goes on the WAN |
| 17:40.04 | mchou | bbt: just LAN |
| 17:40.31 | ppc | manxpower: Sounds like a cool job |
| 17:40.54 | bbt | no stutter in echo test |
| 17:40.58 | manxpower | bbt: our entire voice network has real QoS |
| 17:41.43 | mchou | bbt: that rules out e/c |
| 17:42.28 | mchou | whatever it is, it's likely on the WAN |
| 17:42.39 | mchou | or ITSP |
| 17:43.09 | bbt | how do i check what codecs are used/assign in the asterisk cli ? |
| 17:43.18 | mchou | or could be firewall |
| 17:43.32 | bbt | firewall is off |
| 17:43.44 | mchou | bbt: good |
| 17:44.43 | ppc | bbt: core show codecs? |
| 17:45.07 | manxpower | bbt: Audio uses the RTP protocol. Asterisk 1.4 and later have ways of seeing information about the RTP stream. You would have to read the stuff in /path/to/src/asterisk/doc |
| 17:45.16 | mchou | bbt: sip show channel ought to give you codec info |
| 17:46.16 | mchou | bbt: on active channels |
| 17:47.17 | bbt | sip show channel <channel> ? |
| 17:47.58 | mchou | no, callid |
| 17:48.29 | mchou | do a sip show channels first to get the callid |
| 17:48.51 | mchou | yooun only need 4 digits of the callid |
| 17:49.03 | mchou | dont need the whole string |
| 17:49.08 | mchou | you |
| 17:49.44 | bbt | ok got it |
| 17:49.52 | bbt | what part would be useful? |
| 17:50.16 | mchou | the part where it says codec :) |
| 17:50.34 | bbt | ulaw |
| 17:50.37 | mchou | also the part that says pkts lost :) |
| 17:52.51 | Kobaz | do de do |
| 17:52.55 | Kobaz | a crashing, crashing we will go |
| 17:54.21 | bbt | whats the callid command im supposed to run? |
| 17:55.47 | bbt | Need Destroy: 0 |
| 17:56.11 | mchou | sip show channel <callid> |
| 17:56.55 | bbt | yeah i did that done see a packet lost reference |
| 17:57.03 | bbt | done=don't |
| 17:57.15 | mchou | umm, sip show channelstats |
| 17:57.20 | manxpower | you won't |
| 17:57.29 | mchou | while the call is on |
| 17:57.39 | manxpower | you need to be looking at RTP stats. SIP ONLY does call setup/teardown/management NOT audio. |
| 17:58.42 | bbt | that command dont work |
| 17:59.01 | mchou | manxpower: why dont you take a look at sip show channelstats |
| 17:59.19 | manxpower | bbt: what did I tell you about looking in /path/to/src/asterisk/doc ? |
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| 18:00.23 | bbt | trying to find it |
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| 18:01.39 | manxpower | bbt try the wiki |
| 18:01.58 | manxpower | I almost never have to solve RTP issues -- it's less of an issue on a QOS'd network. |
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| 18:05.19 | bbt | nm, i give up |
| 18:06.09 | bbt | 4am here :/err 5qam |
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| 18:07.59 | mchou | manxpower: good going. they guy's issue was on the WAN side and you lecture him about QoS |
| 18:08.31 | manxpower | no, I lecture him on RTP |
| 18:09.04 | mchou | no, you told him RTFM w/o giving specifics |
| 18:12.27 | mchou | manxpower: not to mention this: http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com/msg33010.html |
| 18:13.01 | mchou | manxpower: "This command takes data we already have in the RTP and RTCP data |
| 18:13.01 | mchou | structures and display them for all active calls. |
| 18:13.03 | mchou | " |
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| 18:19.44 | mouser25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.44 | mouser25 | [Oct 31 13:04:36] WARNING[2502] app_dial.c: Unable to create channel of type 'sip' (cause 20 - Unknown) |
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| 18:32.12 | ChannelZ | don't deal with enum - but do you have an extra space or comma or something somewhere in your config? |
| 18:32.27 | ChannelZ | usually the | shows up as an argument divider |
| 18:34.16 | cosmicwombat | I am trying to add fax and skype, but both are "asterisk14-res_fax conflicts with asterisk14-addons-core" and such. This is a fresh AsteriskNow 32bit i386 install.... |
| 18:44.08 | [TK]D-Fender | mouser25: pastbin the actual call attempt from * CLI |
| 18:44.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 18:44.11 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 18:44.58 | [TK]D-Fender | cosmicwombat: Distro issues are supported in #asterisknow |
| 18:46.56 | cosmicwombat | [TK]D-Fender: right... sorry |
| 18:48.50 | cosmicwombat | These is only like two people in there :( |
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| 18:58.15 | manxpower | cosmicwombat: You can see how popular it is |
| 18:58.40 | manxpower | mouser25: use , not | |
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| 19:02.39 | cosmicwombat | It is actually not too bad if you know most of the bugs |
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| 19:32.28 | [TK]D-Fender | "It's perfect... except for all of those flaws" |
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| 20:00.39 | Katty | :< |
| 20:00.41 | Katty | i hurt my hand. |
| 20:00.56 | Katty | fortunately, i think i will make a full recovery. |
| 20:02.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Are you sure thats not a fault diagnosis due to brain damage? :p |
| 20:02.12 | [TK]D-Fender | +y |
| 20:12.22 | robl^laptop | hurt hand? better have it amputated at the shoulder. |
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| 20:33.21 | Katty | ^_- |
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| 21:06.02 | darkpixel | Managing outbound calls is a pain. There's no easy way to drop 2,500 .call files into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing and have it only deal with 10 at a time--because our outbound SIP trunk supports a max of 10 calls. That causes the remaining calls to fail and retry. So I have a quick bash loop moving the call files into the directory at a rate of 1 every 8 seconds... |
| 21:07.56 | darkpixel | But even worse, I feel like a street walker...I have two groups paying me to robocall a large chunk of a certain county. One group is the Democrats and the other is the Republicans... |
| 21:08.52 | voipmonk | dont freak out |
| 21:08.57 | voipmonk | you can use my dialer or build your own |
| 21:09.11 | robl^laptop | just add the communist, independents, green party, libertarians, and the whig party ;-) |
| 21:09.32 | darkpixel | lol |
| 21:10.19 | darkpixel | You have a dialer script for a situation like this? I haven't really done much digging, moving one call file in every 6-8 seconds seems to work well. |
| 21:10.28 | voipmonk | astmanproxy |
| 21:10.35 | voipmonk | use astmanproxy |
| 21:10.56 | voipmonk | i had 4 pri's tho |
| 21:11.12 | voipmonk | we actually had more pri's then that and we pumped 180k calls per hour |
| 21:11.33 | voipmonk | before it was illegal |
| 21:11.34 | voipmonk | :) |
| 21:11.39 | darkpixel | I'll go check it out. I really only do this once every two years when it's time to vote, so I never invest much time into coming up with an elegant solution. |
| 21:12.15 | robl^laptop | just hire some college kids to dial manually ;-) |
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| 21:12.47 | darkpixel | Yeah--I've always wondered about that. My boss has me do this every two years, and there's no opt-out option. You can't call the displayed caller ID number back (asterisk just answers the call and hangs up), and I have no clue where the numbers come from... |
| 21:13.39 | robl^laptop | set the caller ID to your boss's cell phone |
| 21:13.43 | darkpixel | robl^laptop: In this economy, they probably cost a dime a dozen. But even still, a bash script is cheaper. ;) |
| 21:13.56 | darkpixel | I considered that... |
| 21:15.27 | darkpixel | There definitely is something fun in watching the asterisk console scroll by--detecting a human or an answering machine, playing some spam, and seeing who listens and who drops the call... |
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| 21:19.37 | voipmonk | if u have enough calls |
| 21:19.41 | voipmonk | its like watching the matrix |
| 21:20.11 | robl^laptop | at home, I have an asterisk box that filters all calls. unknown caller ID ends up with an IVR instead of directly ringing a phone. haven't had to deal with a robo-call at home in several years -- the software that causes the annoyance can also keep it away ;-) |
| 21:22.50 | darkpixel | Yep. Plus it's fairly easy to trick the Answering Machine Detection code on my box. If you say 'hello' and then wait less than a second to say 'hello' again, you know it's my Asterisk box. Heck--that works for Comcast and one of my credit card companies as well. |
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| 21:32.47 | naif | Hi all. I need to be able to use a modem over VoIP connection (G711 codec) and use it as a TTY on Linux with software emulation modem. The modem to be called is an analog 9600bps modem, attached to a PPP access server. |
| 21:33.03 | naif | I need to be able to connect to a modem dialup over VoIP. |
| 21:33.18 | naif | Could spandsp/iaxmodem do this, or are piece of software only usable for Fax? |
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| 22:43.27 | ardor | Anyone know of a good VoiceMail System? allows for over the phone creation of voicemail accounts? |
| 22:46.18 | [TK]D-Fender | ardor: Doable with *. |
| 22:49.54 | ardor | My computer fan is flipping out. |
| 22:49.56 | ardor | stupid thing |
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